Landrieu Successfully Louisiana Purchased; Says She's "Leaning Towards" Vote to Open Debate on Destruction of American Economy

Lincoln is our last hope.

Thanks to AHFF Geoff.

Posted by: Ace at 08:44 PM

Comments

1 I really didn't think they'd pass it.I'm a pessimist and I didn't think they'd pass it.Damn.

Posted by: steevy at November 20, 2009 08:47 PM (NP5DE)

2 $100 mil would make me lean too.

Posted by: profligatewaste at November 20, 2009 08:49 PM (b3rrc)

She's just keeping up the ancient Louisiana tradition of being the most corrupt state in the Union. This isn't even an eyebrow-raiser for Louisiana politics. It is the land of Huey Long, remember. She's doing ole Kingfish proud.

Posted by: Monty at November 20, 2009 08:51 PM (L12sc)

4 Why I'm shocked. Shocked, I say!

So the term "Blue Dog" is now officially inoperative, right? As in, that dog don't hunt.

See what I did there? Thank you. I'll be here all week. Try the sterno-warmed carcass-du-jour.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 20, 2009 08:53 PM (3nPNg)

5 Openly gloating about corruption and destroying 16% of the US economy during a severe economic recession! What will the Democrats think of next?

Posted by: dfbaskwill at November 20, 2009 08:55 PM (ympAm)

Stop the torture just get it over with for fuck's sake.

Posted by: kansas at November 20, 2009 08:55 PM (i0WE5)

7 Seems to me that Lincoln is the key to all of this. Healthcare is very unpopular in AR and she's going to have a tough re-election bid anyway. I have a hard time seeing her get re-elected if she let's this bill go forward. My guess is that we'll see the debate, but surely she won't vote to end debate. If she does, Joe is our only hope. I hate to hang my hat on that, but I would say it would be a perfect way to pay back the Democrat party for they they have treated him.

Posted by: BTMintheSTL at November 20, 2009 08:57 PM (4X3d1)

8 dfbaskwill: "What will the Democrats think of next?"

OK. This is where we come in.

Posted by: Cloward-Piven at November 20, 2009 09:00 PM (3nPNg)

9 Aggregatin' and organizin' cocksuckers

Posted by: Albert Swearengen at November 20, 2009 09:01 PM (I3Udb)

10 If they pass it tomorrow who will be the first to post the Taylor speech from the end of Planet of the Apes?They will have blown up America,the Republic will be gone.

Posted by: steevy at November 20, 2009 09:02 PM (NP5DE)

11 Yeah. She's 'leaning toward' the nightstand where Harry left the $100 million for her.

Posted by: Dr Carlo Lombardi at November 20, 2009 09:03 PM (2JBGY)

12 Keep your powder dry, lads.

The second revolution is coming. You can bank on that.

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 09:05 PM (MCHyX)

13 Well why do they care? It's not their money that they're bribin' her with. It's ours.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 20, 2009 09:06 PM (Oq21Q)

14 BTMintheSTL: "...My guess is that we'll see the debate, but surely she won't vote to end debate. If she does, Joe is our only hope..."

She won't have to. I believe that should procedure go beyond this point, Reid can employ the "nuclear option." The really at-risk Dem seats will be able to avoid the cloture vote and the bill will pass with Reid giving them the OK to not toe the party line.

This vote is essentially for the marbles as I've understood it. Any parliamentarians in the house?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 20, 2009 09:06 PM (3nPNg)

15 Yeah, if Lieberman would man up on this one, we could end it.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 20, 2009 09:07 PM (DIYmd)

16 Yeah, if Lieberman would man up on this one, we could end it.

*cough*

Posted by: olympia snowe at November 20, 2009 09:09 PM (PD1tk)

17 I can't even enjoy the beginning of the end of the AGW fraud for five frickin minutes. Not even five.

Posted by: Truman North at November 20, 2009 09:10 PM (XH/G8)

18 Why isn't this kind of stuff illegal????? If you were on WS and you somehow got your company a "gift" like that, the NY Attorney General, Cumo, and the SEC would be all over you and them. Why is it different for the Senate?

Posted by: curious at November 20, 2009 09:11 PM (p302b)

19 America elected Neo Marxists. Now this is what we get.

Posted by: Dan at November 20, 2009 09:11 PM (KZraB)

20 O will offer Lincoln a cabinet position for this vote.

Posted by: MPFS Indentured Fish Stick to the State at November 20, 2009 09:13 PM (PBGAP)

21 I called Lieberman's office today and was told that he would vote yes. Joe's minion was cagey about whether Joe would vote for cloture.

Posted by: muggedbyreality at November 20, 2009 09:13 PM (QY0u0)

22 The reckoning. It's coming.

Posted by: jewells at November 20, 2009 09:13 PM (lv7H+)

I believe that Harry needs 60 votes twice, once to open debate and the other to close debate. So unlike the House, all the Dems in the Senate will have to walk the plank.

Posted by: Opus at November 20, 2009 09:15 PM (IebeI)

Why is it different for the Senate?

Because it is, now shut up!

Posted by: jewells at November 20, 2009 09:15 PM (lv7H+)

25 PS - As soon as Ried said he would have a vote, I knew they had the 60. All this other stuff, Landreiu leaning, Nelson saying we need a debate but I'm not sure I'll vote in the end, this is all just political posturing. The votes are there.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 20, 2009 09:15 PM (DIYmd)

26 What, no haxor from hash "b1hdx" yet?

What a mess!

Posted by: TXMarko at November 20, 2009 09:15 PM (U6aVC)

27 These professional politicians have no value systems or any sense of traditional morality . . . they simply sell themselves to the highest bidder.

Posted by: rplat at November 20, 2009 09:15 PM (G1ArL)

28 @23

Think nuclear option. He'll use it. 51 votes and the united States of America ceases to be.

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 09:15 PM (MCHyX)

29 When's all this temptation to hoist the black flag going to happen?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 20, 2009 09:16 PM (Poe30)

30
Two women have bigger balls than all the democratic shit masquerading as American men in the Senate. Leave it to two women to save our sorry asses for f|_|cks sake.

Once again, this is f|_|cked up, and I know about being f|_|cked up.

Posted by: white punk at November 20, 2009 09:18 PM (eA3tl)

He can't use the "nuclear option" to close debate. It's all 60 to open and close debate.

Posted by: Opus at November 20, 2009 09:19 PM (IebeI)

32 The other early morning I told you that I'd seen some Senator on Greta. He said "If they vote for debate, it is a done deal". I'm paraphrasing but this guy was genuinely upset. He said to Greta's audience "you can't let it get to the floor, don't believe anything they say, I know, once it gets to the floor, it's over". Everyone ignored him and me when I posted it. The BO campaign has their operative (ordinary Americans who have fallen to the svengali effect) out ther sending cards and letters and coercing their friends to make sure this gets passed. The republicans and the conservatives have essentially been tuckered out by what went on in August, while they (our politicians) were having lovely beach vacations. BO and company knew this, they knew that the republicans and conservatives (the people with jobs, families and obligations) couldn't devote the amount of time the young unemployed ivy graduates can to "the cause"....they have won and I tried to tell you all and none of you would listen. When their PR guy can look this Lowery idiot right in the eye and say "it will pass, we will have a bill" on Hannity last night, you know, it is a done deal. And look it is starting to stink like three day old fish.

Posted by: curious at November 20, 2009 09:19 PM (p302b)

33 @31

Rules? We don't need no stink'in rules.

Constitution? Shit, that's so far down the hole they wouldn't notice.

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 09:20 PM (MCHyX)

34 Her vote for cloture will cost us 250M - take that to your wallet.

Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2009 09:21 PM (s1n4Z)

35 He can change the "character" of the bill and use th nuclear option. The Senator on Greats said this. If he makes it a spending bill, he can do it.

Posted by: curious at November 20, 2009 09:22 PM (p302b)

36 First of all, I don't know if Reid can invoke the nuclear option for this type of bill, my recollection from law school is that this is reserved for budget-type of legislation. If he does invoke it, we are talking WWIII type stuff. You can bet that at some point the Republicans will regain control of the Senate and with this precedent then they can proceed to use the nuclear option too. This is why a majority leader with half a brain can't use the nuclear option for legislation like this. Then again, we're talking about Harry Reid, so who the hell knows.

In fact, there is a part of me that would love to see the Dems go ahead and use the nuclear option, heads might literally roll. Surely Reid, Lincoln and several other senators will all loose there jobs over shenanigans like that. If they think the tea-baggers are rapid home grown terrorists now, wait until they try to pass legislation in this shifty way.

Posted by: BTMintheSTL at November 20, 2009 09:23 PM (4X3d1)

37 curious: "Why is it different for the Senate?"

Because the crooks write the rules.

Seriously. This is what has become of democracy. They've been doing this shit for ages but only now do we see the sausage-making up close and in real-time. THIS is representative government even when it isn't listening to us. The raiding of the treasury is standard operating procedure.

The GOP will need to man up a filibuster this at some point. Hell, gather phone books from every city in the nation and read all the names of the people affected by this universal mandate if necessary.

Do you see anyone from the Right willing to do this?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 20, 2009 09:23 PM (3nPNg)

38 These elected officials have no idea what the "nuclear option" is.

Posted by: TXMarko at November 20, 2009 09:25 PM (U6aVC)

39 Louisiana allows for recall of Senators.

Why wait 'til 2010?

Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 09:25 PM (MMC8r)

40 @36

I'm betting Harry already has figured out his dicked in 2010, O has offered him a sweet job, and he no longer cares.

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 09:25 PM (MCHyX)

41 Opus, thanks for the clarification.

We're still doomed. This thing passes. Only the price of the bribe with taxpayer money goes up.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 20, 2009 09:26 PM (3nPNg)

42 You have nothing to fear from Senator Obama!

Posted by: John McCain at November 20, 2009 09:28 PM (Uc/xV)

43 Someone should as her where Louisiana is going to get the money for that health care bill AFTER the $100 million runs out.

On the bright side, we know what that whore's price is now.

Posted by: GarandFan at November 20, 2009 09:29 PM (ZQBnQ)

44 I'm just wondering if/when the tax revolt begins. Party like it's 1776. 'cept with newer stuff.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 20, 2009 09:30 PM (3nPNg)

45 25 PS - As soon as Ried said he would have a vote, I knew they had the 60. All this other stuff, Landreiu leaning, Nelson saying we need a debate but I'm not sure I'll vote in the end, this is all just political posturing. The votes are there.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 20, 2009 09:15 PM (DIYmd)

Don't be 100% sure. These guys have been using the inevitability trick for a long time now. The notion that it will pass scares legislators who want to be on the winning side.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 20, 2009 09:31 PM (ItSLQ)

46 Maybe Byrd remembers the Constitution.

What am I thinking? Counting on the guts of a former Grand Klegle!

We really are fucked.

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 09:31 PM (MCHyX)

47 Anybody got $150 million we can throw at the little trallup?

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 09:34 PM (MCHyX)

48 I don't know why Landrieu thinks this will help. The taxes for this thing go into effect first. This means we'll be looking at 14% unemployment and no actual health care to speak of. That $100mil won't saver her any more than the hundreds of millions of post-Katrina cash would.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 20, 2009 09:34 PM (ItSLQ)

49 The cunt is hiding behind a full e-mail box. I just tried calling her again.

Hey, I live here three weeks a month, I'm a constituent. Sort of.

Posted by: SGT Dan at November 20, 2009 09:37 PM (ZP+gj)

50 Seriously, Landrieu should have gotten something for herself (and maybe she did) because she can get all the pork in the world, she will not get re-elected in 2012, no matter how much pork she got in 2009.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 20, 2009 09:41 PM (ItSLQ)

51 I see no nonviolent end to this relentless parade of treason. Do you?

Posted by: TexasJew at November 20, 2009 09:41 PM (z+twQ)

SGT Dan, we now use the word "scrunt". Advertisers, and all.

And does anyone think Landrieu is going to be running for re-election? My money is on her becoming the head of the National Ambulance Service or something. $100M will be burnin' money for her in the near future.

Posted by: Truman North at November 20, 2009 09:41 PM (XH/G8)

53 TexasJew@51,

I'm starting to mutter "irreconcilable differences" pretty regularly now.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 20, 2009 09:43 PM (3nPNg)

54 Let's hope Lincoln at least markets herself as a Governor Spitzer call-girl type of whore and gets herself some real dollars. Most embarrassing part of this whole sorry episode is that Landrieu thing she sold herself more cheaply than Propecia the crack ho trying to score some rock.

Posted by: Stifler at November 20, 2009 09:46 PM (1kwr2)

55 approaching Wolfe time

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at November 20, 2009 09:47 PM (hCQG5)

56 This is from March, but it seems even more appropriate now.

Posted by: Truman North at November 20, 2009 09:47 PM (XH/G8)

They are using our battered economy as a piggy bank and our currency as toilet paper while the MSM looks on, cheerleading. Too many of us have a real stake in this place and don't want to join the looting mob, running out of the busted-out stores with the goodies.

No, there will be a rather sharp reaction from the actual victims of all this massive thieving, and I believe it will become violent.

Posted by: TexasJew at November 20, 2009 09:51 PM (z+twQ)

58 Dad, what was freedom like?

Posted by: Truman North's kids at November 20, 2009 09:52 PM (XH/G8)

59 I know Harry has her bought and paid for on Saturday, but Im having a party Sunday afternoon, anyone out there know her hourly rate?

Posted by: Liberalnitemare at November 20, 2009 09:52 PM (09Qdq)

60 Time out.

OK. Who's the moron who came up with this... Andi's Nightmare?

Inspired.

Time in.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 20, 2009 09:55 PM (3nPNg)

61 >>Dad, what was freedom like?

Its an attitude thing.

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at November 20, 2009 09:55 PM (hCQG5)

62 51 I see no nonviolent end to this relentless parade of treason. Do you? No.

Posted by: mghorning at November 20, 2009 09:58 PM (lH0T0)

63 Truman North@56,

That's an agreement I could live with. They can even have the Lamestream Media to make Utopia seem more palatable.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 20, 2009 10:03 PM (3nPNg)

64 @59:
Yeah, $10 million with a minimum 10 hour purchase. But in return for that, she'll not only screw you but every other taxpayer in the country!

Things do get messy after a while, though: they don't call her the "Louisiana Bayou" for nothing.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 20, 2009 10:03 PM (QECjC)

65 So if it is defeated tomorrow, does Mary still get her $100,000,000? That would be sweet to watch them walk it back.

Posted by: elliot m at November 20, 2009 10:04 PM (0a6dS)

66 The problem for her is" How much can you trust those wiesel's from Chicago to deliver on their promises."If they double cross her, she is truely for once in her life fornicated. (can I use that word here on this thread?? For her, where is the guarantee? Or perhaps, the arm twisting or worse, got to her!

Posted by: mystry at November 20, 2009 10:04 PM (kmgIE)

67 .......And furthermore, let's fire Michael Steele and replace him with Andrew Breitbart.

Posted by: elliot m at November 20, 2009 10:07 PM (0a6dS)

68 For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of my country. We now officially suck.

Posted by: nikkolai at November 20, 2009 10:07 PM (U0lNn)

69 Been ashamed since Nov 4th 2008

Posted by: Truman North at November 20, 2009 10:08 PM (XH/G8)

70 Go to Hillbuzz for political targets.

Posted by: mghorning at November 20, 2009 10:10 PM (lH0T0)

71 65 So if it is defeated tomorrow, does Mary still get her $100,000,000? That would be sweet to watch them walk it back.

No, because the bribe is in the bill.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 20, 2009 10:11 PM (F+U5/)

72 I hope we liveblog it like we did the House vote. Frustrating as the outcome was, I had a helluva time in the run-up to the vote with ya'll.

Posted by: tdpwells at November 20, 2009 10:12 PM (Ei3oZ)

73 We don't suck.

The nation doesn't suck.

53% of us got a running case of the stupids last year.

25% of us are unimaginably retarded.

All our politicians are in the latter category.

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 10:13 PM (MCHyX)

74 @56: Wait, *we* get Wall Street? Why the hell would we want them? In the main, they're a big part of the problem. The guy should have just stopped with "we get capitalism".

Any other Los Angeles area Morons going to the Glendale gun show this weekend?

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at November 20, 2009 10:15 PM (vupGF)

75 Besides, even if the vote does fail tomorrow, all it means is that Obama & Co. will just roll out more cash before they try again.

Suck.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 20, 2009 10:16 PM (F+U5/)

76 Go to Hillbuzz for political targets

Posted by: mghorning at November 20, 2009 10:17 PM (lH0T0)

77 Honorable Vet Missing Parts: True dat. But, semi depressing still. 2010 can turn everything around. 2012 more so.

Posted by: nikkolai at November 20, 2009 10:18 PM (U0lNn)

78 burberry scarf | CD Keys

Posted by: jason at November 20, 2009 10:24 PM (0dxbq)

79 They are in the process of overreaching.

The payback will be greater than they can imagine.

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 10:26 PM (MCHyX)

I used to be in the lumber bizz, Thanks to Spotted Owl, Thanks to libs everwhere, most wood products come from elsewhere. Libs have destroyed the tree harvest in America. They rather see it burn. Like huge wildfires in SO CAL. Clean up the dead forrests, plant new seedlings, NO

A Renuable resorce promoted by the greens? Well, thats not what we ment.

Posted by: everyday at November 20, 2009 10:27 PM (YR3yJ)

81 3 She's just keeping up the ancient Louisiana tradition of being the most corrupt state in the Union

What the F! I am the most corrupt state

Posted by: New Jersey at November 20, 2009 10:40 PM (I8iDh)

And the mother fucking media notices none of what is going on.

Thre is going to be bloodshed.

Posted by: gus at November 20, 2009 10:42 PM (MaqIC)

83 So, what's it going to take for Harry to buy Blanche?

Posted by: David in San Diego at November 20, 2009 10:43 PM (GF+6V)

84 #51, no, I don't. I really wanted to live out my last years in peace, too.

Posted by: SGT Dan at November 20, 2009 10:50 PM (ZP+gj)

85 Also, M in lumber talk is Thousand Board Feet. Dont know, or care where the other letter versions became relavant. Only in Rome.

Posted by: everyday at November 20, 2009 10:53 PM (YR3yJ)

86 SGT Dan

No shit, buddy.

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 10:53 PM (MCHyX)

87 #86. Plenty of days we could have died. One of these days we'll be right, huh?

Posted by: SGT Dan at November 20, 2009 11:09 PM (ZP+gj)

88 79 They are in the process of overreaching.

The payback will be greater than they can imagine. Yay! we win whatever is left over in 2012!

Posted by: Liberalnitemare at November 20, 2009 11:14 PM (09Qdq)

89 This is why her 2002 reelection was so vile.

Posted by: eddiebear at November 20, 2009 11:18 PM (FGUTj)

90 Re#36 BTMintheSTL

" First of all, I don't know if Reid can invoke the nuclear option for this type of bill, my recollection from law school is that this is reserved for budget-type of legislation. If he does invoke it, we are talking WWIII type stuff. You can bet that at some point the Republicans will regain control of the Senate and with this precedent then they can proceed to use the nuclear option too. This is why a majority leader with half a brain can't use the nuclear option for legislation like this. Then again, we're talking about Harry Reid, so who the hell knows."

This is WWIII. I don't that think The One gives a rat's ass about the Democratic party. He's just thrown it under the bus. No matter what the Republicans gain in 2010, they'll never get enough votes to override his vetos. What we get now, we are stuck with forever. Once people become dependent on socialized healthcare, we become Europe.
Europe always had us to fall back on.
Who the fuck do we fall back on?

I don't think that Harry will need to invoke the nuclear option.
As long as everybody knows that he'll do it, if he has to, they'll suck up whatever they can and vote for it.
This thing goes through tomorrow.

Posted by: RayJ at November 20, 2009 11:34 PM (//Bcg)

91 Senator Kyle was on Greta, he said that they need 60 votes to open for debate, but only 50 for cloture. He said that if it gets voted for debate the bill has a 97% chance of cloture.

Posted by: imtoast at November 20, 2009 11:44 PM (oa/W8)

92 imtoast, yesterday Greta had tow other senators who said exactly the same thing. Today I have heard that he has figured out how to make it a bill about money and that is the way he can use the nuclear option. He seems to be fearless. They all seem to be fearless.

Did anyone see Beck tonight? He promised a lot from this vince guy the author but delivered nothing. This vince guy said nothng that would upset anyone. Seems as though Beck had to get across that this guy had spoken to him on behalf of the republican party and he wasn't backing down, that he, Beck, wanted them all to go down. What did you guys think. Cause Dan Riehl has started going after Beck big time.

Posted by: curious at November 21, 2009 12:03 AM (p302b)

93 It's a done deal. Healthcare nationalized means nationalized. It never changes and creates a 100% Democratic voting force that crowds out all other expenditures. PARTICULARLY MILITARY.

There is NOTHING that can be done. NOTHING. The time was before, when people who fed this were to be punished by getting the Joe the Plumber treatment. But no one did it, so we have National Health, a permanent Democratic voting force, and Whites sent to the back of the health care line so illegal aliens get preferential care and most of the resources. All 40-60 million of them (those that are here plus those that will come for free health care).

Posted by: whiskey at November 21, 2009 12:33 AM (L03mw)

94 ".......And furthermore, let's fire Michael Steele and replace him with Andrew Breitbart."

.......And furthermore, let's fire Tim Geitner and replace him with Andrew Breitbart.

Posted by: Patrick M. at November 21, 2009 01:31 AM (51tJ+)

95 Now this is obama,but is not the lincole,we ought to hope the obama give ours the hope.
I hope the obama can help me to sell the laptop battery,haha

Posted by: Laptop-battery at November 21, 2009 02:03 AM (YzQH8)

96
Now this is obama,but is not the lincole,we ought to hope the obama give ours the hope.

I suspect the laptop battery 'bot is indicative of the quality of care we can expect with inevitable socialized medicine. After all, the leftards promised automation and technology to "economize" our expenditures on medicine.

It's over, it's done. R.I.P. The Nation Below Canada, November 21, 2009. I don't have the date in the new Obazmic Revolutionary Calendar.

Posted by: George Orwell at November 21, 2009 02:08 AM (AZGON)

97 Just found this: "Patriots from across America will meet on Saturday, Nov. 21 at 1 PM on the East Lawn of the Capitol Building to protest this dangerous bill. "

Posted by: curious at November 21, 2009 02:13 AM (p302b)

98 Sen. Landrieu: "We already know what you are, we're just haggling over the price."

Posted by: John Cooper at November 21, 2009 07:56 AM (ARpNr)

If he gets the 60 to open debate, they're going to pass this monstrosity.

At that point, Reid gets to let every smush and schmuck add on amendments until we have a 3,000 page sh*t pile.

End result, Reid and the Democrats get their takeover of healthcare. They won't get a "public" option included; instead, they'll get a FANNIE/FREDDIE model of health care whereby the government and the private sector are inextricably linked forever.

Posted by: stickety at November 21, 2009 07:56 AM (Jg5C9)

100 AS the healthcare program is all about power and money, I'm sure the politicians will sell their souls, ability to remain in office, first born....whatever it takes to get this bill passed and signed into law. The dems can buy their vote by telling them they will be taken care of if thrown out of office. Although, they do seem to assume that no matter what they do, they will be re-elected.

Posted by: J at November 21, 2009 08:53 AM (T3/qP)

101 I kept wondering why they keep harping on the 3 Dems left and not saying anything about sheets Byrd. Well, a little bit of research shows that he WAS released from the hospital and has been "convalescing" at home.

He is fully expected to be in the Senate today to vote for the bill. Since Lieberman has backed off on his promise to vote against it they have their 60 votes. Money talks and bullshit walks.

Just proves, there are no "moderate" Dems as I have been saying all alone.

Posted by: Vic at November 21, 2009 09:52 AM (CDUiN)

102

The Democrats will have the 60 votes to start debate, the 60 to shut off debate and the votes to pass the bill. In conference the bill will be pulled to the left by House conferees.

The bill coming out of conference will pass both chambers and be signed into law. Yes it will damage the country, the economy, and the health of ourselves, our children, our grandchildren and those following for generations.

There will be no revolution, little backlash and no retribution for those voting "yes". The American people will fall in line, as usual and become accustom to the situation.

The Democrats will have a new entitlement and huge base of new voters.

For those who disagree with me, look at Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, Welfare, Public Education and the assault on this country's traditions.

And while legislation is being passed enslaving us all, all we will do in the end is bitch and moan.

Posted by: Realist at November 21, 2009 11:39 AM (iTe8G)

103 Aren't you the ray of sunshine, realist. We shall see what we shall see and until then, I assert the contrary.

Posted by: toby928 at November 21, 2009 12:15 PM (PD1tk)

104 Just proves, there are no "moderate" Dems as I have been saying all alone.

Ain't that the truth.

Posted by: Barbarian at November 21, 2009 12:51 PM (EL+OC)

105 can't believe this is going to pass. Why aren't the republicans doing more to stop this. like sheep to the slaughter they go.

Posted by: depressed at November 21, 2009 12:55 PM (b6BRx)

106 Landreui just announced she is a yes vote for moving forward. She is trying to "blunt" it by saying she is necessarily voting "for" the bill.

We know she is a 100M dollar whore and we also know any effort to say a yes vote now is not voting for the bill is a damn lie.

Down to the Arkansas commie now who is up for reelection this year in a red State.

She will fold as well and try to ride the not for the bill lie.

Posted by: Vic at November 21, 2009 12:57 PM (CDUiN)

107
So, I have been trying to find in the thread where someone says "...we have already determined what you are. What we are doing now is haggling over the price!" It's a classic joke, and very poignant and fitting in this situation. So, who wins the cupie doll?

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