Blanche's Choice: Sen. Lincoln Faces Stark Choice of Voting for ObamaCare, or Being Re-Elected

We know this as a general matter. But to me it's significant that we can start seeing who specifically is in jeopardy due to ObamaCare.

If you're a soldier charging a hill, it's one thing to know that your group will take, say, 30% casualties. It's a different thing if you know in advance that you, specifically, will be one of the dead of war.

Blanche Lincoln is on notice that it won't be just some other soldiers dying on that hill, but she herself.

A Zogby Poll this week illustrates the stark choice facing Senate Democrats as they have to decide whether or not to vote for ObamaCare. The poll shows that Arkansas Sen. Blanche Lincoln, high up on the list of vulnerable Senate Democrats seeking reelection in 2010, literally faces a choice between being reelected and voting for the bill.
The Zogby Poll shows Arkansans opposed to the Obama/Reid bill by 28-64, with 50 percent "strongly opposed" to the legislation. To swim in the face of such a current of public opinion is risky business for a U.S. senator.
Lincoln's most likely Republican opponent, state Sen. Gilbert Bennett, is hot on her heels in the poll, trailing by only 41-39. But asked who they would support if Lincoln votes for ObamaCare, Arkansas voters switch to Bennett, giving him a 49-36 victory. That Lincoln goes from two points ahead to 13 points behind over one Senate vote illustrates the potency of the opposition to healthcare changes.

It has to be noted that this poll was specifically commissioned by a group, the League of Voters, hoping to use the poll to lobby senators to vote against the legislation. Still, it's a reputable polling firm; Zogby has incentive to add his secret sauce, but there are limits to what he can do.

Meanwhile, Rasmussen and Fox both show Obama's approval at 46%. That is an all-time low for the Fox poll, which has generally found middling-to-high support for Obama, compared to other polls. It's not a poll that has been stacked against him.

Posted by: Ace at 04:34 PM

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It doesn't matter if the Klan commissioned that poll. Those numbers are well outside the range you can dismiss for polling-commissioned bias.

The numbers are so stark that any senator thinking of keeping his job just felt his junk suck into his abdomen. As awful as this whole thing is, it's not without some humorous moments. Watching Pelosi's Choice in realtime = funneh.

Posted by: spongeworthy at November 19, 2009 04:39 PM (rplL3)

2 Jeesh, is it a given now that no congress critter ever votes their convictions?

Posted by: erp at November 19, 2009 04:40 PM (BDRHK)

3 Choose! Choose and perish!

Posted by: fiatboomer at November 19, 2009 04:40 PM (0Wf6c)

4 erp, you can't vote what you don't have.

Posted by: Stealth Gay Academic Conservative at November 19, 2009 04:41 PM (Vh1/h)

5 If Blanche Lincoln loses, I may pull something while dancing in glee.

Posted by: alexthechick at November 19, 2009 04:43 PM (8WZWv)

6
Jeesh, is it a given now that no congress critter ever votes their convictions?
Saying the word convictions in front of a member of congress causes them to break out in a cold sweat. Just ask "Cold Cash" Jefferson.

Posted by: Flying Monkey at November 19, 2009 04:43 PM (Oxen1)

Just do it Blanche.

Barack has lots of cushy appointments to fill and you won't have to worry about re-election or those pesky voters ever again.

You name it: Czarship? Ambassador? Let us know.

Posted by: N. Pelosiyeva, H. Reidski, Members - Politburo, Central Committee at November 19, 2009 04:43 PM (s2bW4)

The Senator has the choice of being voted out of office in a general election, or losing in a primary challnege due to revenge by the Democrat leadership. There's only one way out - drop a paper bag of water on Pelosi's head from the visitor's gallery.

Actually, I think the primary thing is less certain. Their power to strike back and intimidate is fading.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at November 19, 2009 04:43 PM (w41GQ)

9 3 Choose! Choose and perish!

It WOULD be funny to see Libs destroyed by Gozer in the form of J. Edgar Hoover...

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 19, 2009 04:44 PM (olNam)

10 Vote set for 8 p.m. Saturday.

So awesome, they have to sneak it through in the dead of night.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 19, 2009 04:44 PM (NtiET)

11 If you're a soldier charging a hill, it's one thing to know that your group will take, say, 30% casualties. It's a different thing if you know in advance that you, specifically, will be one of the dead of war.

Don't worry SEIU can change that life and death question to it's non euphemistic form with a quick pop of the knuckles.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at November 19, 2009 04:44 PM (0q2P7)

12
There should be no conflict in Lincoln's choice,she was elected to represent her constituents in Washington.The numbers tell her which way to vote.

Posted by: bulwark at November 19, 2009 04:44 PM (jvrmc)

13
Gonna come down to who the Congress Critters fear the most...... the voters..... or Reid-Pelosi.

I think this poll demonstrates the paradigm shift that started with the tea-baggers and the town hallers. Ordinary folks are more dialed in to whats going on in DC than any time in modern history, and they are determined to hold the elected officials accountable.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 19, 2009 04:44 PM (J5Hcw)

14 Heather: is that the final vote, or just the "can we haz beginningsz naow?" vote?

Posted by: Charles Johnson's Tip Jar at November 19, 2009 04:45 PM (wnU1W)

dammmit!

*puts sock away for now*

Posted by: eddiebear at November 19, 2009 04:45 PM (wnU1W)

16 And she ain't the only one. This vote will even put safe offices in play.

I wonder what the numbers would look like if you throw Cap & Trade and Shamnesty into the mix ? Which is what the Dems are suggesting they will do in the Spring. I'm thinking mid 20s for support of anyone voting for that Troika of Taxes outside fo the deepest blue districts.

Posted by: Rocks at November 19, 2009 04:45 PM (Q1lie)

17 Maybe this is why O-man has so many unfilled appointments: he'll fill them with defeated Congresscritters

Posted by: eddiebear at November 19, 2009 04:46 PM (wnU1W)

18 No way would the Dems primary Lincoln with someone to her left. Openly statist politicians can't win in Arkansas (they have to hide it like the Clenis and Schmuckabee).

Posted by: fiatboomer at November 19, 2009 04:46 PM (0Wf6c)

19 DeMint says that is the "vote to proceed"--which is the pretty much the whole thing, since the Maine gals will vote for cloture.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 19, 2009 04:46 PM (NtiET)

20 Ambassador Lincoln your car is waiting ....

Posted by: Jean at November 19, 2009 04:46 PM (PjevJ)

Self-preservation makes sense only if you assume the present electoral system will still be in effect.

/snark

But more seriously, I think the Progs are just going for it. They can all see the writing on the wall and figure Hell with it, full speed ahead.

God help us.

Posted by: Triumph at November 19, 2009 04:47 PM (lDdA/)

22 Is ay the attempts of the Democrat leadership to ram through bills that individual Senators' and Congressmens' constituents don't want is eroding their authority, rapidly. What do you think?

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at November 19, 2009 04:48 PM (w41GQ)

23 As pointed out above, the danger is a non-trival number of congress critters being bribed with post-elected-office jobs - okay, they might not be as nice as being a senator, but they'll still rake in the money, and never have to worry about those pesky voters again.

Posted by: Ryan Frank at November 19, 2009 04:48 PM (818kI)

24 Here is DeMint explaining that the vote to proceed is the whole shebang.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 19, 2009 04:48 PM (NtiET)

25 sock off (Pelosiyeva)

Posted by: Huckleberry at November 19, 2009 04:49 PM (s2bW4)

26 The last time I saw someone put secret sauce on a poll, they got arrested.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at November 19, 2009 04:49 PM (muUqs)

>>They can all see the writing on the wall and figure Hell with it, full speed ahead.

2 can play at this game, BTW. This is why I'm almost more worried about the next guy we get in than Obama himself.

Posted by: Triumph at November 19, 2009 04:49 PM (lDdA/)

28 Yeah, the sense that reps don't respond to voters, or that voting has no effect has some serious potential consequences.

Posted by: Popcorn at November 19, 2009 04:49 PM (OOehk)

29
As pointed out above, the danger is a non-trival number of congress critters being bribed with post-elected-office jobs - okay, they might not be as nice as being a senator, but they'll still rake in the money, and never have to worry about those pesky voters again.

Point taken.... but those "jobs" are tied into the 2012 election as well.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 19, 2009 04:50 PM (J5Hcw)

30 The Precedent is a political suicide bomber and he is trying to strongarm the useful idiots into joining him. Most will, as we have seen.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at November 19, 2009 04:51 PM (A46hP)

That Lincoln goes from two points ahead to 13 points behind over one Senate vote illustrates the potency of the opposition to healthcare changes.

Must be those damn racists again!

Posted by: Chris Matthews at November 19, 2009 04:53 PM (fqDKB)

32 Tune into C-Span this Saturday at 8 pm when Blanche Lincoln will face certain death on the floor of the US Senate. Will she balk? Just tune in an see.

Let's get ready to Proceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed!

Posted by: Michael Buffer at November 19, 2009 04:54 PM (Q1lie)

Meanwhile, Rasmussen and Fox both show Obama's approval at 46%.

Hey Obama, how's our ass starting to taste???

Posted by: The NON 52% at November 19, 2009 04:54 PM (kn+jW)

34 Dang, it looks like there is no stopping this thing. The sheeple won't know what hit them for three years. That is those who aren't directly hit by taxes starting January 2010. That's why Obama wants this thing done now. Taxes kick in immediately. That's why they can claim it will reduce costs. They will be taxing the hell out of medical devices, Insurance companies, and pharmacetucals.Oh, I forgot and, the "rich."

Posted by: Donna at November 19, 2009 04:55 PM (6heFO)

Seppuku!!!

Posted by: Barry Gaigin Obama at November 19, 2009 04:55 PM (wAQA5)

36 Hey Non 52%,

How's my ass taste? Like I give a shit about anything but fucking this country?

Barack

Posted by: Obama at November 19, 2009 04:56 PM (i0WE5)

37 Oh, I forgot and, the "rich."

"The rich", in the Democrats' definition, being anyone employed by someone other than a union or the US government, or someone who has forfeited their status as a union or government worker by the sin of voting Republican.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 19, 2009 04:57 PM (olNam)

38 "As pointed out above, the danger is a non-trival number of congress critters being bribed with post-elected-office jobs - okay, they might not be as nice as being a senator, but they'll still rake in the money, and never have to worry about those pesky voters again.

Point taken.... but those "jobs" are tied into the 2012 election as well. "

Not all of them. After the mandatory waiting period, there are very high paying lobbyist positions to be had regardless of who wins any election. In addition Soros might need another personal testicle masseuse or whatever.

Posted by: right at November 19, 2009 04:58 PM (EquV1)

39 They will be taxing the hell out of medical devices, Insurance companies, and pharmacetucals.

It's fucking brilliant--the "efficiency panel" decides you're too old for knee surgery, then you have to pay an excise tax on the wheelchair you then require.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 19, 2009 04:59 PM (NtiET)

29 / Fixerupper:

Only the govt jobs like ambassador, czar, etc are tied to 2012.

Plenty of Dem think tanks, lobbying firms etc out there that pay lost better than govt appointments. See: Daschle, T., etc.

Posted by: Huckleberry at November 19, 2009 04:59 PM (s2bW4)

41 The Donk leadership is going to do everything they can to jawbone the rank-and-file into obedience. They'll promise cushy jobs to pols who fear slaughter in the polls next year, they'll cut deals, they'll even (I suspect) accept massive casualties next year as payment for passing health-care this year. They know full well that if this entitlement is passed, it is very unlikely to ever be repealed -- and that it will incrementally mean more Democrats getting elected to "fix" the system they themselves created. It's beginning to look like the health-care bill is the Hail Mary Pass of this Administration: they'll give up on the war, piss away the economy, ignore valuable allies, and look the other way while Iran goes nuclear; anything, just to get this obnoxious monster of a bill passed. The downside is obvious: if it tanks, Bammer's Presidency is over. Oh, he may serve another three years, but he's a dead man walking, politically. The earliest lame-duck President in history (well, aside from William Henry Harrison).

Posted by: Monty at November 19, 2009 05:00 PM (4Pleu)

42 40

29 / Fixerupper:

Only the govt jobs like ambassador, czar, etc are tied to 2012.

Plenty of Dem think tanks, lobbying firms etc out there that pay lost better than govt appointments. See: Daschle, T., etc.

Posted by: Huckleberry at November 19, 2009 04:59 PM (s2bW4)

"Dem think tank" isn't that an oxymoron?

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at November 19, 2009 05:02 PM (kn+jW)

43 He betting the economy will improve and that American(s) have short memories.

Posted by: Winston at November 19, 2009 05:03 PM (FggW0)

44 He betting the economy will improve and that American(s) have short memories.

Nor is he wrong, historically.

It puts the GOP into the uncomfortable position of profiting from continued misery in the economy. I don't like that, because it leads to embarassing instances were GOPers actually root for the economy to get worse just to put a thumb in the eye of Democrats, and that's really fucking perverse.

Posted by: Monty at November 19, 2009 05:10 PM (4Pleu)

"state Sen. Gilbert Bennett, is hot on her heels in the poll, trailing by only 41-39"

Wow. Considering most voters in Arkansas don't even know that guys name that's pretty bad.

Posted by: Lea at November 19, 2009 05:10 PM (lIU4e)

46 If I ran the GOP congressional election commitee for next year, my platform would be real strong on throttling this thing in its crib and cancelling the Porkulus. I'd feel pretty good about our chances.

Posted by: spongeworthy at November 19, 2009 05:11 PM (rplL3)

47 I don't like that, because it leads to embarassing instances were GOPers actually root for the economy to get worse just to put a thumb in the eye of Democrats, and that's really fucking perverse.

Considering how economically illiterate this administration is, I don't think we'd need to "root for the economy to get worse". We could stand there and say "They're f*cking things up and we know it" and be right.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 19, 2009 05:11 PM (olNam)

48 Lincoln is defintetly faced with a stark choice. Blind party loyalty and/or the elitist's position (they know what's best for us) or the folks. This should be a no-brainer. Aren't our elected representatives suppose to reflect the views of their constituents? Unfortunately, she may conclude that she's toast either way, and scream Obama Akbar, vote w/ the Dims, and condemn her state & country to a rapid descent into Marxist hell.

Posted by: MDr at November 19, 2009 05:11 PM (ucq49)

49 Take it from me - waiting for these kinds of problems to improve on their own ain't all its cracked up to be.

Posted by: Zombie Herbert Hoover at November 19, 2009 05:11 PM (T1boi)

50 42 / Concious: Yeah, good catch !

Posted by: Huckleberry at November 19, 2009 05:14 PM (s2bW4)

51 Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) officially joined Sen. Joe Lieberman (ID-Conn.) as the second member of the Democratic Conference to threaten a filibuster of the Senate�s health care reform bill.

FWIW. Believe it when it happens.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 19, 2009 05:14 PM (NtiET)

52 for a hill
men would kill
why the do not know

duh duh duh duh
duh duh duh duh
duh duh duh duh

for whom the bell tolls
time marches on!

Posted by: ginaswo/MiM at November 19, 2009 05:14 PM (qvtkZ)

53 7, 23. 38. Yeah, there are enough think tanks, NGO's, and other trans-national progressive sinecures that recalcitrant lefty Senators can be offered a golden parachute to get off this burning aircraft.

Posted by: SGT Dan at November 19, 2009 05:16 PM (GgXZc)

54 Hey Blanche, how would you like to be in charge of 1/6 of the US economy? That job would makes the job of US Senator look like some janitorial job. Just saying.

Posted by: Barry Soetero at November 19, 2009 05:17 PM (RykTt)

55 can you guys throw a good candidate for GOV of AZ our way? our latest in the long line of unelected Sectry of States to assume the governorship is incompetent and blew a great chance to cut taxes in budget negotiations, polling showed people choosing ANYONE ELSE, literally, that was the category over her

yet the state GOP is endorsing her to run

arrrrgle

think Sarah would like some sun for a while??

Im gonna ask her at the book aigning, I'll be real quiet so no snoopy lamestream media snoop

Posted by: ginaswo/MiM at November 19, 2009 05:17 PM (qvtkZ)

56 "If you're a soldier charging a hill, it's one thing to know that your group will take, say, 30% casualties. It's a different thing if you know in advance that you, specifically, will be one of the dead of war."

As an aside: in the Civil War, there were accounts of men fighting for the duty of carrying the colors in battle. The significance is that the advancing line of soldiers used the flag as a reference point to keep the line unbroken, advancing all at the same pace. The standard bearer was therefore a prime target of enemy snipers: if the colors fell, the advancing line might become ragged and thus weakened at various points.

So when a sniper killed the standard bearer, another man in the color guard would take the flag and become the next target. On occasion, an officer would reach for the fallen flag and be forced away from it by an NCO or enlisted man: they preferred to spare the officer the risk of carrying the colors on the principle that the officer's survival mattered more to the success of the attack than their own.

Posted by: stuiec at November 19, 2009 05:18 PM (Ate22)

57 @41 - thanks for putting into words the reasons why no amount of SSRIs will pull me out of my funk.

Posted by: rockhead at November 19, 2009 05:21 PM (RykTt)

58 For the record I think Dick Morris has the name of Lincoln's opponent wrong.
It should be Gilbert Baker (www.senatorgilbertbaker.com)

Posted by: NapMan at November 19, 2009 05:24 PM (+ds8F)

59 The One is on a ONE WAY ticket...........going down.

Posted by: GarandFan at November 19, 2009 05:24 PM (ZQBnQ)

60 Can anyone tell me what that magic poll number is? The one from which there is no return? Is that 42%?

Posted by: Def Leppard at November 19, 2009 05:34 PM (hIOnV)

61 You know, I'm notifying everyone I can to call their Reps and tell them to vote no. I hope others here are. This is it. We lose her and we lose it all.

Posted by: Def Leppard at November 19, 2009 05:36 PM (hIOnV)

62 @52, Ride The Lightning!

Posted by: Def Leppard at November 19, 2009 05:37 PM (hIOnV)

63 From MDr, #48: "Unfortunately, she may conclude that she's toast either way, and scream Obama Akbar, vote w/ the Dims, and condemn her state & country to a rapid descent into Marxist hell."

I was just about to say that. I cannot wait to see Lincoln gone (I'm from Arkansas), and, personally, I think she's going to lose either way she votes. I think she may just go out and take one for the team.

Posted by: pathos at November 19, 2009 05:37 PM (ZPYh5)

64 They will probably poll the senators before the vote and some will be "allowed" to vote against it if they are sure they have enough votes to win.

Posted by: NapMan at November 19, 2009 05:43 PM (+ds8F)

65 I don't like that, because it leads to embarassing instances were GOPers actually root for the economy to get worse just to put a thumb in the eye of Democrats, and that's really fucking perverse.

I don't want to see economic improvement because it weakens Obama and his ilk and helps to prevent a total socialist takeover. In this case, it's preferring short-term pain to a lifetime of misery.

Posted by: nickless at November 19, 2009 05:48 PM (MMC8r)

66 It's actually Gilbert BAKER.

Posted by: TheRedDianthus at November 19, 2009 05:56 PM (4UkCP)

Department of Not That Fucking Touch a Decision

November 19, 2009

Sen. Blanche Lincoln

Re: You Should Be Able to Decide This in a NanoSecond

Dear Senator Lincoln:

Seriously, this isn't that tough. You have a very simple choice:

a. Vote for ObamaCare and destroy the American Economy and Freedom as We Know It^tm, AND YOU WILL LOSE YOUR JOB and earn the undying hatred and approbation of nearly 100% of your fellow Americans, and probably die a useless old hag and be buried in a clearly marked grave that people will still visit 300 years from now to piss on you and curse your name to an eternity of burning in Hell, or,

b. Vote against Obamacare, and keep your job, and all those other nasty things above won't happen. Or, at least not right away, because you're sure to vote for some other America-Destroying Commie Piece of Shit Legislation while you are a Senator.

Choose wisely, for once.

Cordially,

Sharkman

Director, Department of Not That Fucking Tough a Decision

Posted by: Department of Not Really That Touch a Fucking Decision at November 19, 2009 06:06 PM (Zj8fM)

I was just about to say that. I cannot wait to see Lincoln gone (I'm from Arkansas), and, personally, I think she's going to lose either way she votes. I think she may just go out and take one for the team.

I know nothing about her, but I'm kinda skeptical on that. Senators (Dem Senators in particular) don't often knowingly risk losing their seats. They genrally don't give up a Senate seat until they lose an election, die, or get caught in a major scandal.

If it comes to a choice between voting for a bill they'd really like to pass and getting re-elected, you'd seldom lose money betting on them to try and save their seat.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 19, 2009 06:07 PM (plsiE)

69 This is why I'm glad that term limits fad of the '90s didn't take off too much.

Posted by: dorkafork at November 19, 2009 06:13 PM (wiDiv)

70 I f Blanche gets booted out of the Senate she can always sell laptop batteries.

Posted by: MPFS Indentured Fish Stick to the State at November 19, 2009 06:26 PM (iYbLN)

71 The questions for Sen. Blanche Lincoln are, "What can the Obama Admin give to this politically dead man walking for making a sacrificial vote?" And, "Is it more rewarding than a seat in Congress?" It's simple egocentric/economic calculus... based, of course, on the premise that a view from the underside of The Bus isn't forthcoming.

How much prestige is there for an ambassadorship or agency head, and how high is the direct or indirect deposit into the financial account of her choosing?

Pelosi/Reid et al. will find the award needed to get the "Blue Dogs'" (aka moderate in name only) votes. Our Congress is a mockery. A full-on sham.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 19, 2009 06:31 PM (swuwV)

72 If it comes to a choice between voting for a bill they'd really like to pass and getting re-elected, you'd seldom lose money betting on them to try and save their seat.

Senators like to keep their jobs, period. Being one of an "elite" 100 is a special position unmatched by any cushy private sector job that might be dangled.

Assuming an Obama defeat in 2012, this means some senator dethroned in 2010 only has two years to ride the private gravy train before they become PNG when a Republican administration moves in.

Lincoln is also one of the lower net worth Senators according to Open Secrets (i.e. under $2M), so she's not exactly "rolling in dough" and being a freshmen senator means she's not had the time to get into any of the really powerful committee positions, or develop a comprehensive rolodex -- which reduces her street value in the private market considerably.

"One-and-out" means you were not a terribly good senator by definition. She needs another term or two to plump her bank account and develop power and contacts before she'd be willing to go ideological and test the private waters by screwing her constituents.

If I had to venture a guess, its going to be 70/30 she caves just based on her personal economic situation and 1st term status. There is a fair chance she goes full retard and tosses it all away though. After all, she is a democrat.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 19, 2009 06:38 PM (ii3ri)

73 If the Democratic establishments in Washington and Arkansas tell her she will be "persona non grata" if she votes against cloture, she may decide to risk her seat. If you look at her bio she has never done anything in her life (after law school) but work in Democrat party politics - that's her life. Perhaps the Clintons would play a role in persuading her.

Posted by: chris999 at November 19, 2009 06:38 PM (B/WwP)

74 I guess I could always be the Ambassador to New Zealand - how hard can that be. I mean, Carol Mosely Braun did it, and she is shit for brains.

Posted by: Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-Unemployed) at November 19, 2009 06:44 PM (V9SYy)

Can anyone tell me what that magic poll number is? The one from which there is no return? Is that 42%?

While no per se magic number, as a general rule, an incumbent who is upside down on approval/disapproval of a range of 10 or greater (in otherwords, their approval number is 10 full points or more below their approval number, like 42-52) is toast. Even in the bluest and reddest of states (see, e.g. Corzine, Jon. Gov. - was negative 17 on election day). That is really the number to watch.

In terms of a Candidate A vs. Candidate B poll, the general number to watch is 46. If the incumbent can not get above 46, absent a strong third party, they are generally toast. Because undecides tend to break 3 to 2 in favor of the challenger. Thus, 46 is a good number to look at because most polls have a margain of error of +/- 3.3 percent.

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 19, 2009 06:49 PM (V9SYy)

76 I got a phone call from a Lincoln pollster a few weeks ago and it was the most fun hour I've spent on the phone in ages. She kept throwing out Lincoln talking points and I got to rant about them to someone who was getting paid to listen. Very cathartic. Now, however, I keep getting phone calls inviting me to listen to "experts" explain to me why Lincoln should be supporting Obamacare and why I should support Lincoln. If they weren't canned crap I might do it just make sure she remembers exactly where she stands.

There's a lot of hostility toward her especially among people who actually vote. The only thing that might save her ass is her agriculture chair.

Posted by: Oil Field Trash at November 19, 2009 08:35 PM (7kmce)

77 We only need one DINO.

Posted by: RTH615 at November 19, 2009 10:55 PM (J94wL)

78 By the way, what happened to Lieberman? He's not even mentioned in recent articles as "on the fence."

Posted by: RTH615 at November 19, 2009 10:56 PM (J94wL)

79 As an Arkansan, I would like nothing more than to see Lincoln get her marching papers. Unfortunately, I tend to be skeptical about this for a couple of reasons. First, while Arkansas has trended red in recent Presidential elections, it still leans heavily Democratic in other elections. Three of the four House members are Dems, both the Senators are Dems, every statewide-elected office is a Dem, and the legislature is heavily Dem. There are still too many Yellow Dogs running around. During the 2008 cycle, I heard many, many of them ridicule Obama during the primaries; yet come the general election, they pulled the lever for him. Wen push comes to shove, the Dems will still support their party.

Second, the election is still a year away. That's plenty of time for people to forget Lincoln's vote. Sure, campaign ads can help remind the voters about it, but the Republican Party in Arkansas is fairly hapless, so I don't have too much confidence in that.

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81 I was at dinner last night and there was a group of seniors talking about Lincoln and pretty irritated with her. They're the ones who vote and they'll remember who voted for Medicare cuts if it should come to pass.

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