1
hmmmm, interesting

2 I wish I could come.

3
Why not the Big D?

Yes, Dallas is cold and shitty in the winter, but it's in a red state and I heard they serve pretty big steaks.

4 I could live with Vegas.

5 So I guess that means there's no chance for this to be a week-long kegger at Iowahawk's place, then.  Pity.

6 Springtime in Phoenix is lovely. Spring Training, golf, lounging poolside with an adult beverage....

7 Vegas. Vegas. Vegas. Vegas.

8 For what it's worth, I suggest somewhere in the center of the nation- maybe Texas. That way, airfare won't be prohibitive for either of the coasts.

Also.. please don't make it an obvious liberal city. Although I know there are conservatives in every state, I would rather not spend my hard earned $ in an insane blue state.

9
How about Lake Havasu during Spring Break?

10 Eh, the whole "easy access" thing probably leaves out Myrtle Beach. Too bad, especially since I'm dead broke and can't make it.

11 >>>Yes, Dallas is cold and shitty in the winter, but it's in a red state and I heard they serve pretty big steaks.

Why in god's name would we do it in a city that's cold and shitty in the winter just because it's a red state?

Can we put politics aside and focus on fun?

12 Interesting.

New Orleans would certainly love the traffic. You're correct in that they desperately need to fill hotel rooms- the city's economy is largely based on tourism.

Downtown hotels would probably cut deals- the other thing is, it may be worth checking with Harrah's to see if they've got a venue we can use. There are plenty around, and the other big plus is that it's in a safe section of downtown (comparatively). There are plenty of New Orleans-native morons to get input from, but I obviously like that. The other key thing with NO is that there's plenty of stuff for families to do, even from downtown... the Aquarium of the Americas is not to be missed; you can take the Zoo Cruise (on a paddlewheeler) all the way down to the Audubon Zoo and back, blah blah blah...

Could be a lot of fun.

13 Vegas I would go to. New Orleans is horrid. In fact, Vegas is probably the only place I would travel to - cheap and fun, and good enough weather.

14

Charleston, S.C.!  Conservative, good food, good spring weather, generally booze-and-cigar-friendly venues, and we could have a big ol' Make Fun Of Lindsay The RINO rally.

15 I'd vote Vegas.  Can't believe the deal we got there in March at "the" hotel at Mandalay Bay.  $400 a night room for $99.  And the wave pool.  Too cool.

16
And steaks, don't forget the steaks!

17

How does Dallas sound?

18 Nashville. Tennessee being the only state that tended MORE Republican in the last election. We sent Al Gore to bed without his home state's approval.

Reward us.

Plus, I bet Glenn Reynolds would come from K-ville.

19 Maybe you can live blog it or have a feed for those of us who can't go?  They do this with the apple developers meeting and it is great.  That's in Vegas, you should find out when they do that and do something concurrently, you would get a lot of people then.

20 sorry @3 your post was not on my screen before i hit send!

21 Nashville's okay, but what's the weather in April like?

22 Can we still vote on this somewhere?
And, no one has mentioned Newark, NJ. I know we can get some great deals there.

23 New Orleans is horrible, I go with Charleston, SC

24 Anchorage, Alaska

25 Is one of the big draws from Alaska and a Boobed-American? 

26 I agree with one of the above posters, it's hard to beat Phoenix in March or April.

27 72/48 April temps in Nashville. It's a destination town with TONS of hotels.

28 One word...

Vegas baby, Vegas.

Ok, that's 3 or 2 depending on how you count it.

29 New Orleans should be excluded just because of the airfare.

How about the Orleans in Vegas? I mean, I won't be staying there myself, but...

30 >>>Also.. please don't make it an obvious liberal city. Although I know there are conservatives in every state, I would rather not spend my hard earned $ in an insane blue state.

I have to tell you this is simply not going to be a consideration. I want to get bang from my own buck, and I'm not going to choose a "Red City" just because it's more politically-correct to spend dollars there.

I gotta tell you, this sounds like the suggestion of someone who isn't even planning on coming, because I can't imagine that someone actually looking to spend money on this trip is going to say "Let's do it at a non-vacation-city."

It seems to me the vast majority of people willing to actually spend their money on a trip are going to put the bang-for-the-buck factor well ahead of any consideration about the political climate in the city.

31 Vegas, baby, Vegas!

Especially since the Dems have been castigating businesses for holding "meetings" there. It offers some nice opportunities for turnabout.

32 Springtime in Phoenix is lovely. Spring Training, golf, lounging poolside with an adult beverage....

Forget during Spring Training.  Will be difficult to get rooms.  And, I'll be there at that time already.  But, not too far a drive to Vegas from there.

I may even rent a motorcycle to make the trip!

33 absolutely las vegas.  teh one says we shouldn't go there.

34 Dallas has some awesome tiddy bars.

I'm just sayin'.

35 >>>New Orleans should be excluded just because of the airfare.

Bad, huh? I didn't know that.

36 Why do you have to call it "Hmmm"..."Hmmm" will never be the same for me again after those singing school kids...

37 Can we go somewhere with really hot Korean hookers?

38 Ace-  Have you ever been to San Antonio?   It is a fun fuckin' town. Late nightlife on the River Walk, can get pretty raucous, great cuisine, outdoor restaurants and bars.  A prefect atmosphere for after hours socializing in small to medium sized groups which you know inevitably this shindig will break into.

And despite the handle, I presently live in Loo-ville, so I would have to fly in just like most of you losers.  

At least consider SA.  And Dave, you're a friggin' traitor......

39  

This thread is a good as any other to place this video.
Got chuckle out of it.
No treats from Obama.

40 If you contact expedia and priceline and hotels.com...you can ask them about conference deals which may help everyone with airfare.

Why not disney land or disney world?   they know how to do thsi stuff and they are apparently giving great deals ....

41 Red State.
Red Gov. Perry
Blue city Austin

42 --- Vegas ---

April 10th and 11th -

American College of Addictionology & Compulsive Disorders - Certified Addictionologist Program

Golden Sands:

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I shit thee not ... it'd be like Peas and Carrots.

http://www.vegasrooms.com/las-vegas-conventions-april.html

43 I'd say NOLA, but wouldn't it be better to host this thing in a place with conservative government?

44

Denver or Colorado Springs aren't necessarily cold in the spring, but the weather is insanely unpredictable.  March and April are the snowiest, wettest months of the year on average, but a blizzard can hit and the next week (sometimes the next day) it can be 75-80 degrees.

Phoenix in the springtime has spring training, and that's a problem--the hotels are usually booked solid.

San Antonio, Dallas, Vegas, San Diego, Nashville, or Albuquerque are all fine choices.

45 A live feed sounds good, or even just team liveblogging of the events. If it's Vegas, you could even liveblog from the blackjack table.

(Ace takes a hit while showing 13? What a moron!)

46 >>>How does Dallas sound?

It doesn't sound good. It just doesn't seem like the place where people get excited just to be going to Dallas.

I've never been there, of course.

Let me put it this way: If I write Greg Gutfeld "We're doing this in Dallas!" do you think he'll want to come more? How about "We're doing this in Vegas!" ?

Please stop with the red-state/red-city stuff. It's not material. The cities will do just fine without 200 guests' dollars.

47

48 OT but interesting.  Who will be the next victim of PC?  Possibly a police officer who can't frisk the wife of an Islamic terror suspect>  Mark Steyn cites this snews story on NRO:

"Windsor Police Chief Gary Smith Apologizes To Islamic Community For 'Offending' Their Beliefs During FBI Arrests

WINDSOR, Ont. — Windsor police chief Gary Smith has apologized to members of Windsor's Islamic community for offending their beliefs after officers arresting two FBI suspects at gunpoint patted down one of their wives.

"It was never the intention for Windsor police officers to offend or embarrass the families of our Islamic community," writes Smith in a press release issued by police this morning. "The actions taken did cause embarrassment and did offend their religious beliefs. I sincerely apologize to the families and the Islamic community."

Smith will answer questions at a 3 p.m. press conference at police headquarters.

A review of the incident highlighted the need for additional "cultural sensitivity training," said the release, and Dr. Murad Aktas has been tapped to provide it..."

Steyn's comment:  It's surely only a matter of time before authorities apologize to Major Hasan for being so insensitive of his religious beliefs as to have him shot by a woman.

49 Isn't Las Vegas the obvious choice?  They are dying out there and the deals to be made are ridiculous.

50 I like Colorado Springs.  It's actually pretty nice in the spring.  I don't live near there, but I would be a lot more likely to make a meet in Colorado Springs than Las Vegas.

51 Are we going to let a bunch of Certified Addictionologist Wannabes have a convention in Vegas in Spring and not have one ourselves?

Hell No,  I say.  Hell No

52

And, no one has mentioned Newark, NJ. I know we can get some great deals there.

Yeah, there's a reason no one has mentioned it and that they might have good deals.

Newark is somewhere you vacation from, not to.  Who wants to go somewhere shittier than where they already live?

53 How about beautiful, scenic, lovely Atlantic City on the shores of the Jersey Shore?  Home to dirtbags from as far and wide and Philedelphia and Baltimore.  We got Casino's and whores with c-section scars smaller than the ones in Trenton.

54
I sure as hell wouldn't spend a dime in San Francisco, that's for sure.

55

Vegas

Has got to be the first choice.  Easy and potentially cheap to get to.  Lots of other activities.  Not sure why any place else is even being considered?

56 Reno?

57 This may be a little too short of a fuse -- but at the end of Feb is the AUSA Winter Meeting in Ft. Lauderdale. Heavy hitters from DoD and Congress will be there. If there was a smart mil-blogger meeting, say down the street, it may be easier to get some people cross-posting so to speak. If some of the more reputable mil blogs were there it would not be out of the question to shake down a few freedom loving defense contractors for some sponsorships.

58 New Orleans would be awesome!  I've been there for Spring Break the past two years, and it is always a very fun place to be.

I would really like to come to a convention like this, for the Counter-Culture Right.  Any chance there could be some sort of poor college student deal?  A reduced price would be cool, but I understand that others might bitch.  Even ways to set up room-sharing would be good.

59

My vote goes to New Orleans.  I always have fun there, and well, it's within driving distance for me.

As for airfare, family flew in from Boston to NO for $188 rt.

60 Miami, Phoenix, San Diego, Tampa, something like that.  Maybe Havana!!

Make sure it's in a state where you can still smoke in bars.

61 If you're coming to Texas, it should be San Antonio.  More to do there.  Better weather in April than Dallas.

62 Whattabout Key West, Fla?

Spring in the Keys = Mahi Mahi.

63 Will there be supple laptop batteries available?
It's important to know that.

64 Co. Springs is nice. I spend alot of time there. I don't, however, see it as a good place to convene and get kinda rowdy. Plus, it can be very expensive to fly directly to the Springs.

65 Vegas has been soooo screwed by the Dems....I think Vegas would be perfect. 

66 Las Vegas is the obvious choice.

New Orleans was suggested by a draw, and by some commenters (who wanted a southern city, based on the belief that that would be easier for most attendees), and also the fact it occurred to me, too, as a place I'd just like to go anyway and am really just looking for an excuse to go.

The only downside of Vegas, really, is that it is... well, it's Vegas. It is everything and nothing.

67

Average daily temperature in Denver for March is in the mid-50's

68 Vegas wins in just about every other category.

69 Boston. . .no.

I like the irony of a Conservative conference at the nominal capital of NE liberaldom, but the costs there (lodging, food, transport) are through the roof.

70 Vegas is going cheap too.  They're kind of desperate.  My brother is headed out in a month -- $405.00 for airfare and 4 nights at the Flamingo.

71

How bout picking a city in a district/state that could draw awareness to Future Conservative candidate.  I understand it would be delicate not to have it as an endorsement thing for prospective speakers...  but  it could have legs.

72 but the hookers... think of the hookers

73 Re: Vegas

Airfare, rooms, entertainment, and convention space are all cheaper in Vegas. It's what Vegas does.

74 NO would be great for me.  Easy driving distance.

I'm starting to worry though that this event will end up more Carnival than CPAC.  Not that that's not fun, but will it hurt the movement for the general populous to see us with our pants around our ankles?

75 37 Can we go somewhere with really hot Korean hookers?

Posted by: Truman North at November 12, 2009 03:37 PM (e8YaH)

I hear Pyongyang is a pretty affordable city.

76 Having one of the presentations/day's events at the Alamo would be pretty fitting, one would think.

77 Vegas.

Even a moron can get lucky there.

78 I say Vegas too. It fits well with the lifestyle of a typical moron.

79 Bet you would have record attendance if you went to Honolulu or the US Virgin Islands.

80 San Diego.
Chicago.
Ft. Lauderdale.

81 Pensacola/Ft Walton Beach, Galveston, Charleston, Mobile are all second tier, cheaper and moron friendly.

82 I like the red state, blue city idea - you will get press because the local libtards will protest the thing no matter what the content.

That's part of why I suggested Key West.

83 I'm always up for skiing. We could go to Park City and have the Anti-Sundance.

84 Actually, rather than debate this:

It *IS* Vegas, barring some better offer from a place like New Orleans or somewhere else warm and cool.

(And I'd have to check New Orleans airfare... if NO is just as cheap, hotel wise, but more expensive airfare wise, it would be Vegas.)

85 My wife agreed to let me go to Vagas based on economy transport from Virginia. Maybe some Roanoke 'rons would car-pool to Richmond of Greensboro to get the cheap fare.

86 How bout picking a city in a district/state that could draw awareness to Future Conservative candidate.

Yeah, like in Harry Reid's back yard.  I like LV just for that.

87
Ace said pants are optional, Toby.

88 The New Orleans food kicks Vegas's butt.

89 We're not talking much of a difference. And the destination cities usually have discounts that narrow the differences.

Quick examples from Travelocity, round-trip, same dates (Nov 30-Dec 2), lowest prices noted:

NY-LV, $279, Los Angeles-LV, $119.
NY-Phoenix, $288, Los Angeles-Phoenix, $141.
NY-Dallas, $238, Los Angeles-Dallas, $302

90 You are obviously pandering to Malkin with that Colorado business.  There is nothing wrong with Fresno. 

91 Vegas, baby.

92 I like San Diego, I hate New Orleans (may as well have it in Detroit).

93 Galveston is still recovering from Hurricane Ike.  Not that anyone would know it.  The news has been kind of lacking about Galveston being wiped off the face of the earth.

94 I think Vegas carries the greater possibility of Morons in jail. Good times. Everyone bring a little bail money. I say Vegas all the way!

95 (And I'd have to check New Orleans airfare... if NO is just as cheap, hotel wise, but more expensive airfare wise, it would be Vegas.)

I just did a quick search for my secondary NE market and NO is about $150 more expensive in airfare compared to Vegas.

On the economics of it alone, nothing is going to beat Vegas. You have to want to go somewhere else.

96 TULSA!!!

Its cheap, a red state, not too cold (heck its in the 70s now), and yall can see my house!  Come on, who is in for the home state of Inhofe and Coburn?!!!  Plus we have a gun show like every weekend.

97

2 votes for New Orleans! LV is just a volcano, insanely overpriced food, and a horrid transit system. Really I'm at the commitment level on this where I could say with about 98% certainty that if it's in N.O my spouse and I would attend.

98 Lake Tahoe

99
Remember about 5-10 years ago the "hot" place to be was Atlanta?

Holy crap, what a fucking dump.

100 San Diego.
Chicago.
Ft. Lauderdale.

Chi-Town!  Nice city, fun place to party, centrally located, Jug-Ears's playround!

101
in b4 someone suggests the red state of Idaho

102 Please, Los Angeles! Belly of the beast! Or San Diego ... you could go to the same place that houses Comic-Con, and they might be grateful for the business. Pasadena also lovely in spring, and CalTech and JPL nearby for maximum tech geekiness. And if you're in the LA area, there's always that day trip to the Reagan Library in nearby Simi Valley. And I do believe that Marine and upcoming Pepperdine grad Ben Gifford is challenging Jane Harman.

103 Both Vegas and NOLA are terrific cities for conferences.  I've done both several times and never had a complaint because they're built for this stuff and really know how to take care of you.  NOLA has better food and music and Vegas probably has cheaper direct flights - so it's a toss up!

104 I hear Pyongyang is a pretty affordable city. Posted by: Jim in San Diego at November 12, 2009 03:45 PM (H7Rlw) -- And, you get a free videotape of your experience.

105 Lol at Tulsa. No offense, but there is no way in hell I'm paying to go to Tulsa.

Ace says Vegas, I say I'm there. Boom.

106 and vacation-oriented. DC, for example, is a nice enough town, but I've been there twenty times, and everything closes at 9pm. (Seriously-- what up with that?)

Are you kidding me ?  Last call is 2 am for most bars down here - and in No. VA.
Where did you hang out .....Denny's?....... even they are 24 hours?

107
Vegas,its a city built on catering to these types of functions.It's cheap the weather in spring is beautiful and it never sleeps.

108 Vegas! Have it in Harry Reids back yard baby.

109 Hawaii would probably be too expensive, although awesome.
San Francisco or New York would be tricky logistically, but not impossible.
Miami or New Orleans would probably work.
Los Angeles is a distant possibility.

It's almost certainly gonna be Vegas, though.  Love it or hate it (or both), but Vegas is built for this kind of thing.

So, once you decide on the destination (which will be Las Vegas), the next issue is... what's gonna happen at this convention?  A few speeches, and what else?

110

Newark is somewhere you vacation from, not to.  Who wants to go somewhere shittier than where they already live?

EH...you guys just don't know where to go!

111 insanely overpriced food

No, stay at a casino and camp out at the buffet. When we were there we chowed at the buffet for brunch so efficiently that we only had to have a light dinner.

112 As an inducement for Vegas, if that's the spot I will share the story of the time I was there and I had to call and wake my best friend up at 3am and tell him to bring $300 down to me ASAP or I was going to be in trouble.

I will only tell it at the conference because What Happened in Vegas, Stays in Vegas.

113 Ace,

The deal you can get on convention space is what you should consider first. Your groups money will be spent on convention space. And I don't really care if I save $30 on airfare if the events take place in a small space at the end of the line.

114 Provincetown, MA? 

115 It's vegas unless New Orleans is as desperate as they are.

It is definitely not Tulsa.

I do not know why people keep suggesting these towns.

I can guarantee you that the name draws I have are coming for the fun of a free vacation for the price of a speech, and are not going to do so for Tulsa.

EDISON, NJ!!!

Come on.

116

Oops, missed #4 of Ace's list.  Still voting for New Orleans, just forget I said anything about driving.  I'm mostly a lurker anyway, so I wasn't looking to change minds with that.  Guess I was just too goshdarned excited.

New Orleans is either "trashy" or "has character."  I personally love the character of it.

  

117 I hear Pyongyang is a pretty affordable city.

If you don't mind your hooker reminding you of your necrophiliac past.  Shrunken, cold and unresponsive.

118 When is Mardi Gras by the way? I really don't want to be in NO when that is going on.

119 What are you going to call it?

"Channeling Conservative Consciousness"?

120 Phoenix would be a great place.  Maybe see some spring training baseball while you are there.

Also, as Phoenix is a hub for Southwest (as is Las Vegas) it can be reached inexpensively from many locations in the US.

121 102 Please, Los Angeles! Belly of the beast! Or San Diego ... you could go to the same place that houses Comic-Con...
Posted by: Kit at November 12, 2009 03:50 PM

Hmmm...cosplay chicks.

122

Hi Ace,

You do not want to host a festival in Colorado during the spring. It can be drop-dead beautiful outside, but it can be brutal as well. This spring it snowed 2 feet on the ground every Friday through Sunday, for the months March through May, making up for our dry winter. And in between the weekends, we had record-breaking winds, as high as 70 mph every week. Never seen anything like it. If the snow didn’t bring the trees down, the wind did.

I love Colorado any time of year, but unless you plan on snowboarding in the elements as part of the package, it’s probably not a good idea.

123 I've been there twenty times, and everything closes at 9pm.

Miami's South Beach freak show runs 7x24x365. 

Coulter and Limbaugh both live in Palm Beach only 70 miles away...FL Keys just a short drive away...I'm just saying.

I can probably arrange for a flashy impromptu airshow off the beach by one of the precision aerobatic pilots I know.  All we'd probably have to do is pony up for fuel.  The aerobatic plane would be flying down from Palm Beach.  I know a guy with one of these, and he's plenty crazy enough to do it.

124 This lurker suggests Vegas.  Flights are always cheap and meeting space is abundant.  New Orleans sucks.

125 I made my suggestions yesterday.  In my view, Vegas and N.O. are both sh*tholes, but I'd still show.  I need the buckup.  Too many liberal acquaintances.  (Note:  I don't say "friends.")

I do like the idea of Phoenix, though, for whatever it's worth.

126 Just do Vegas.  It fits all the criteria.  N.O. is hit or miss with the airfare and just doesn't have as much to do.  Go for a midrange hotel on the Strip and you'll be set.

127 Vegas would be the obvious location, for economic reasons.  I live in New England and it would only be about $300-400 to fly out there.  Much cheaper than other locations.

128

San Antonio - Had a family reunion there a few years ago, and we found there was nothing to see nor do once we did the Riverwalk thingy.

I vote for Vegas.

129

I too, have been to seminars in both N.O. & Vegas.  The after hours memories are much better in N.O.

130 Miami. A short trip to the Keys, and less water damaged than New Orleans.

131 Vegas is perfect. I would love to attend, depending on the date.

132 Vegas.

133 46 >>>How does Dallas sound?

It doesn't sound good. It just doesn't seem like the place where people get excited just to be going to Dallas.

As a Texan, i can confirm that Dallas would not be a wise choice. It does have plenty of titty bars, but that's the only thing going for it, it's a terrible place otherwise. The two places where people used to go for fun back when Dallas was actually a halfway decent city were The West End and Deep Ellum. But they're long gone and are nothing but a bunch of rundown abandoned buildings now.

134

I just found my answer to my question.

135 Slublog,

All other things being equal (and they never are), you in?

136 Maybe the whole foods CEO will be a co sponsor

You need to look at the CEO's and their political leanings and hit the corporation that has ideas closest to yours so you can get a lot fo extras...

Isn't Wynn very conservative leaning?

137 One of the best places to be stabbed, robbed, beaten or shot would be in present day N.O. No thanks.

138 So, once you decide on the destination (which will be Las Vegas), the next issue is... what's gonna happen at this convention?  A few speeches, and what else?

Posted by: sandy burger at November 12, 2009 03:51 PM (MT+0i)

Yeah, yeah.  Let's move on from the "where" debate, because clearly it's in Vegas, and get on with the more important details.

Coulter?

139

EH...you guys just don't know where to go!

If ever there are plans for a National Smokestack Convention, we'll be sure to let you know.

140

": Morons On Bourbon Street"

Sounds highly appropriate.

141 All other things being equal (and they never are), you in?

Unlikely, but stranger things have happened.

142 Sandy,

Yes, there will be panels, debates, speeches.

The schedule will not be booked solid, however, as it is at CPAC. CPAC has a lot of poorly attended panels. We'll go for fewer, but with the hopes that each will be well-attended (relatively; this is going to be small).

One way to look at this is that CPAC is a "working weekend" type deal. This is going to be a "weekend, with some work." The emphasis is reversed. Both aspects are still present, as with CPAC, but we're just going to admit right out of the box that real event people look forward to every day is Happy Hour and the mixers.

And dress code? Suits allowed but not requested.

143

 Who wants to go somewhere shittier than where they already live?

One mans shit is another mans...

144 It doesn't have to be in the same location every year, does it?

Memphis might be pretty cool as a meeting site.

145 What's going on Ace, they got paper out on you in Texas? 

Now rejecting Dallas I understand, it ain't even really Texas at this point; just California transplants (sorry again Cindy), soccer moms and Ray Nagin's relatives.

Austin has the wildest zoo, best observed from the roof of the Iron Cactus on Sixth Street any time after five p.m. Fridays and Saturdays, but for good old fashioned moron style fun you can't beat San Antonio.

146 I'm voting for Vegas and not just because it's only a couple of hours drive for me.  Spit in Reid's backyard and defy Bambi in one shot.  Here's the place to stay, from an article in the Review Journal titled 'Take This Job And Love It':

South Point has captured the loyalty of its workers with its no-layoffs policy — an unusual benefit in a leisure market that's lost nearly 20 percent of its jobs in the last year. But South Point also won praise for its extensive internal communications efforts. Owner Michael Gaughan holds daylong meetings during which he goes over changes in benefits and new corporate policies. One such meeting recently reiterated the no-layoffs approach and explained how the hotel would tweak operations to hang onto its employees. And workers always know how business is going because managers constantly seek and give feedback on daily promotion responses and sales numbers, said Alan Pesin, an employee who's worked for the Gaughan family for more than 20 years. Pesin said he's seen co-workers leave the family's hotels for other jobs, only to return later because they enjoyed the atmosphere. "Michael Gaughan pays you, insures you, provides you with meals in the employee dining room and gives you a chance to better yourself over time," Pesin wrote. "Those are the best perks of all."

I've stayed here quite a few times and recommend it to anyone going to Vegas.

147

118 Ginger

I've never understood why people want to be in N.O. during Mardi Gras.  You can't get in any of the good restaurants or clubs.  You catch some cheap plastic beads & get thrown up on.

148 PS  Polly votes for Vegas.

149

I don't think I've ever seen such a look of misery and dejection on the face of my daughter as I just did a moment ago.

She just couldn't understand why ace was polling a collection of self-identified morons about a group decision rather than simply announcing the location.  "Doesn’t Mr. Ace know about morons anymore?" she asked pitifully.

I sat down with her on the sofa and (as calmly as I could) tried to explain to her why ace is hamstrung by his conservative principles.

I tried to keep my voice steady, but it became increasingly difficult - the confusion and feelings of moronitude were just too much. I think my daughter could tell something was wrong.

I found myself at such a loss for words - nothing made any sense; nothing makes sense anymore. I finally had to admit, "Honey, I just don't know - I don't know what's going on in this blogosphere anymore..."

When I finished her lower lip started to tremble and her eyes began to fill with tears, "Daddy" she said, "why are the rightwing bloggers doing this to the country?" Well, that was it for me: I finally fell apart. She just fell into my arms and we both began sobbing for several minutes. I wiped my nose on her sleeve.

For once she had to comfort me and get me back on my feet. Sometimes I just think it's too much, but seeing the strength in my young daughter's voice helped me to get through to post this and book a cheap openended ticket to Vegas, baby.

.

150 New Orleans airfare isn't any worse than airfare to Vegas. Im just saying. Don't let that stop you from considering New Orleans, Ace. You know I'll be there wherever you host this but I am putting in a strong request for New Orleans because it's such a great city -- the food is beyond amazing and there are plenty of gentleman's clubs for the men. Raunchy and historical. Plus everyone has to do a cemetery tour. It's practically required.

151 VEGAS!
Plan it around a UNLV game, they are supposed to be good this year.

Plus, I can visit friends and family.

Plus, I may get lucky by taking the wife to go shopping, visiting friends, and thawing out.

Thank you.

152

Click on my name.  Type in "Bourbon Street."  Hit enter.

 

153 Yeah, yeah. Let's move on from the "where" debate, because clearly it's in Vegas, and get on with the more important details.

Coulter?

Mary Catherine Ham.

154

Me, Vegas and conferences don't mix very well and going to school in Louisiana I've had my fill of NO.  I still think a Texas location would give you a great turn out and San Antonio is a great tourist destination and Austin is a great entertainment destination with an appropriate number of moonbats to aggravate.  Plenty of cheap golf in both places compared to Vegas. 

Also if you hadn't figured out why hotels are cheap in Vegas well its because they recoup it through other means.

 

155 Adding my compliments to San Antonio. Beautiful city worth seeing. The Alamo!

156

Why not the Big D?

Because, as most everyone who lives here will admit, the first thing we do when guests arrive is take them to Fort Worth. Maybe Austin.

Dallas is a great place to live, but not a great place to visit.

157 If you come to New Orleans, I will show you wonders.

Like the aged beauty of a city whose history predates our Republic, and how easy it is to get a 20-year old from Minneapolis Bible College to let you do a Jello shot off her tits, but mostly... well, you know.

158 I know this may be too early to ask, but what dates are you looking at for the event?

159 As I was hinting at yesterday, if done in NOLA, southwest flies there and its more centrally located than vegas.  tmi3rd knows it better than I do, but there are lots of things to do, though I think he understates how dependent the city is on tourism.  not to the extent vegas is, but certainly in that direction.  and if it is done late april, it will both be comfortably warm and can coincide with jazzfest.  but hotels might be a bit cheaper if you schedule it in between mardi gras and jazzfest.  as for the "countercultural" thought, I'll again note that vegas is a bit cliche and tacky.

nashville is safer, and is pretty well set up for conventions.  southwest flies here too.  centrally located.  it may be a bit too country for some though; if reno is the biggest little city, nashville is the biggest little hick town.  But hey, thats why I like it.

160 I can get in touch with coulter, and based on other people attending, she *may* show up; but she's big, yannow? She may consider this tomfoolery.

When she goes to CPAC, she has thousands of people lining up to sit in a room with 200 seats. The rest watch on tv.

This is not going to be anything of that size, obviously. Highest conceivable attendance will be in the 300 range.

So there is a question as to whether it's worth these people's times, as a communication/promotion thing.

Which is why I keep emphasizing that the city itself must be a draw.

161 OT:  Syrian man caught crossing into Canada with $800,000 in gold, hezbollah cignet ring, and 9-11 Islosnuff DVDs.  Terror not suspected.

http://tinyurl.com/y9xmvps

162 I suggest Hilton Head, SC.

163 Mary Catherine Ham.

+1

164 The only idea I am definite on is that it is not going to be held at some dreary city like DC. It's going to be in Vegas, or Miami, or Coronado Island off of San Diego, or someplace fun like that that caters to tourists.

Come to beautiful seaside Blackpool, beloved of Conservatives everywhere. It might not rain!

165 One of the best places to be stabbed, robbed, beaten or shot would be in present day N.O.


Would that be before or after the NOPD shows up?

166 Ace, Edison, NJ is a lovely town...I summer there.

167 Chicago?

168 Vegas. It's cheap unless you're a fool.

169 There used to be the "Dark Ages Weekend" as conservative counter-programming to Clinton's "Renaissance Weekend."  I went to one after they'd dropped the "Dark Ages" from the title and saw Arianna Huffington get in a snit at Newt Gingrich.  That edition was held at the Arizona Biltmore in Phoenix.  Lots of high-profile attendees, including McCain and Giuliani -- this was during the run-up to Clinton's impeachment trial in the Senate.

170

 there are plenty of gentleman's clubs for the men. Raunchy and historical

worst gentlemen's clubs evah! but I don't expect you to know that.

171

100 comments and nobody suggested Syracuse, NY? 

It's cold, there's not a lot of (any?) tourist attractions, it's a blue city in a blue state, the airlines rape you on airfare because there's only one major carrier, we lack hotel space, the natives are surly, and the taxes are outrageous.  Except for that , what's the problem?  We have good food.  Look at the people and you'll believe me on that.

Oh, it's not centrally located.  I'll shut up. 

172 come to Phoenix

173 It needs a theme. Something that is casual and ironic so the GOP will only be able to appropriate the message. Perhaps a name that subtly implies lesbian porn.

174 One thing you can find plenty of in New Orleans is Obama gear. It's everywhere. And now on sale.

175 This is not going to be anything of that size, obviously. Highest conceivable attendance will be in the 300 range.

I think you're greatly underestimating the draw.  Really.

176 Ace -

Host your event somewhere in Big Sky Country and we'll name a herd of bison after you. 

We're desperate.

177 If it's west of the Mississippi, Mr. Cyn and I can be there, assuming very cheap flights and hotel rooms (we're still on a tight budget thanks to the president of the country south of Canada). I'd love to get some ideas to bring back for grassroots involvement.

178 Good God.  I'm catching up on the thread.  Dallas?  San Antonio?  Ski trips?  Strip bars?  Just don't even post that crap.

179 This isn't going to MacWorld or NBAA - so available space should not be a problem. You need a room for 200-500?, a dias, a couple of projectors, lectern, a sound system, chairs, and some coffee -- thats like a wedding. Your going to have to go sit down with a travel professional who does this sort of thing to get the best deals, and talk it over with your big speakers -- what do they consider fun. You may find that they would perfer it to be a little out of mainstream - and Vegas may be a turn off for them.

180 Vegas would be an excellent choice and it could be very entertaining to get some of the Republicans looking to replace Harry Reid to speak at the event.

181 My last trip to Vegas was actually scheduled for Sept 12th 2001.

Needless to say, that got postponed.


When me and the girlfriend finally got out there it turned out to several days before Roy (of Siegfriend and Roy fame) got bitten by the tiger.  Completely oblivious that that was going to happen, we were tossing around the idea of going to see Siegfried and Roy, but decided that we didn't want to spend $200 on tickets.

Went to the gun range instead. . .much cheaper AND more fun.

Ironically, the next day the brand new "sniffing" machine at the airport sniffed some powder residue on my hip-pack, causing an extremely straight laced TSA-type guy to politely ask me "Sir, can you explain why you have high-explosive residue on your clothes?".

Good times. . .

182 N.O. = no thanks.

Unless, your plan is to get morons killed.

Literally, a turn down the wrong street or alley and you're shot, stabbed, robbed, raped or all 4 at the same time. Plus the French Quarter smells like puke and/or ass 24/7.

Vegas values it's tourists. As long as you're on the Strip, you're safe. And that's important if you think the drinking of alcoholic beverages might be involved in a moron meet-up.

183 Las Vegas does have rental machines guns going for it...

184 NOLA?  Party train from Chicago.  Maybe fly back.

185 Vegas - might make it.

New Orleans - Nah, I usually try not to get drunk, stupid and conservative in the murder capital of the world.

186 The New Orleans food kicks Vegas's butt.

If you like Cajun, sure, hands down, any other style though, my money goes on Vegas.

187 yeah... if strip clubs are the big draw, something is badly wrong.

>>>It needs a theme. Something that is casual and ironic so the GOP will only be able to appropriate the message. Perhaps a name that subtly implies lesbian porn.

Got one. I'm keeping it quiet for now. I like it though.

188 Phoenix would be a great place.  Maybe see some spring training baseball while you are there.

Also, as Phoenix is a hub for Southwest (as is Las Vegas) it can be reached inexpensively from many locations in the US.

Posted by: crosspatch at November 12, 2009 03:52 PM (ZbLJZ)

Travel is my world.  I fly 400 flight segments per year.

Phoenix is indeed a hub, but not only for Southwest.  Also the combined AmericaWest/USAIR. 

Hub airports in the east/midwest/near west:  NY-Newark (USAIR), JFK (int'l) and LaGuardia (Continental), Philadelphia (USAIR), Charlotte (USAIR), Atlanta (Delta, AirTran), Miami (American), Memphis (Northwest), Chicago (United), Denver (United), Minneapolis (Northwest), Dallas (American, lesser Delta), Houston (Continental), Nashville (Southwest), Baltimore (Southwest), Salt Lake (Delta).

Raleigh, Pittsburgh, and St. Louis all used to be hubs, but aren't any more.

I don't go to the west coast very often (once or twice a year), so I don't know the Pacific ones.

189 Ironically, the next day the brand new "sniffing" machine at the airport sniffed some powder residue on my hip-pack, causing an extremely straight laced TSA-type guy to politely ask me "Sir, can you explain why you have high-explosive residue on your clothes?".

Been there, done that.  Salt Lake City on the way back from antelope hunting.

190

If you decide on Vegas (my second favorite city in the world), I'm serious about the lap dances.

191

SCOTTSDALE AZ,

Guarantee you will love it!! Beautiful women, Killer nightlife etc...

192 Las Vegas does have rental machines guns going for it...
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 12, 2009 04:04 PM (O4UXx)

Oh man, we have to make a trip to a shooting range.

Maybe we can make that a co-blogger get together event.

We'll call it a "Corporate Bonding Activity" and write it off. Assuming anyone survives.

193 Good God.  I'm catching up on the thread.  Dallas?  San Antonio?  Ski trips?  Strip bars?  Just don't even post that crap.

Posted by: Z Ryan at November 12, 2009 04:02 PM (cMo

You're seem easily bothered.  Have a bran muffin.

194 I like the Anchorage idea but spring is the worst time of year there.

I vote for Detroit, because it would really drive home why we hold the politics that we do.

195 Got one. I'm keeping it quiet for now. I like it though.

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2009 04:05 PM (jlvw3)

"Desperate in the Desert: When Morons Attack."

196

This might make it tough, but:

NOT A BLUE STATE.  I do not want to stimulate any blue state economy.

Texas.  Dallas or Padre.

WAIT!!!  I've got it, the perfect city for the Ace o Spades lifestyle: El Paso!

Well, not really El Paso, but its neighbor to the south, the ciudad of Juarez.  Literally ANYTHING goes in Juarez.  Hobos galore that you don't even have to lure to a secluded spot.  You can just do 'em right there on the street and no one will care.

197 Sorry if this is geeky.  I forgot at least one:  Dallas-Love (Southwest).

198

Scranton.

*drink*

199 It needs a theme. Something that is casual and ironic so the GOP will only be able to appropriate the message. Perhaps a name that subtly implies lesbian porn.

Right-wing Rugmunchathon!

200 Here's my take

LV:  Tacky.
NOLA: Tackier

LV: Hookers
NOLA: Vampire hookers.

LV: Cheap food
NOLA: Good cheap food.

201 One of the reasons flights to New Orleans are a pain isn't just the price, but the hassle. No direct flight between New Orleans and San Diego? This was true even before Katrina. I'd rather drive (and probably would).

I'd rather it not be in San Diego because I live here and I don't want you riffraff showing up. But if you need late night, check out San Diego after-midnight dining.

202 And dress code? Suits allowed but not requested.

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2009 03:56 PM (jlvw3)

I haven't worn socks in almost a year. Do we have to wear socks? At this point my wardrobe has devolved into shorts, Vans, and Hawaiian shirts.

203

Anyone who's been nice to me in comments is eligible to share my boatload of frequent-flyer points.

I know who you are.

204 Ace,
Tell Coulter that if she comes to Vegas I will show her my dick.

205

Oh, another thought: the "Sluttiest Coeds in America" title has a permanent home at Arizona St. University.

No, really.

206

Springtime in Phoenix is lovely. Spring Training, golf, lounging poolside with an adult beverage....

Hotel rates drop significantly after March 1st (IIRC). This is a big convention location.

207 And I would like to say that I pledge my entire personal fortune to help get this venture off the ground.

And if that's not enough?   Hey, I know people!

208

yeah... if strip clubs are the big draw, something is badly wrong.

yeah , I wonder what the big draw is about Vegas.  Must be their lack of vices.

209 Ace asked for suggestions. No need to be rude about those offered.

210 If Nevada promises to dump Reed in 2010 then - hellloooo chicken ranch.  Otherwise, it's got to be Miami.  Any place team zero railed the CEOs over.

211

 It needs a theme. Something that is casual and ironic so the GOP will only be able to appropriate the message. Perhaps a name that subtly implies lesbian porn.

Conservative Cunnilinguist Convention  AKA CCC.

 

212 But, can you say show us your beads in Vegas?

213 Oh, another thought: the "Sluttiest Coeds in America" title has a permanent home at Arizona St. University.

That is indeed enlightening information not previously proffered.  Thank you.

214 Orlando. The rooms are cheap and plentiful. There's always cheap airfare deals and just about every airline flies here. The weather in spring is awesome. There's plenty to do both with and without the family. Since I'm funemployed, I'd be willing to help out.

If I ever get unfunemployed, Vegas would be nice too.

215 OR  C³

216
Just don't "partner" with anyone.  I hate that "verb".

217

I mostly lurk, but even I might come out into the day to go to this.

218 Naturalfake - do you know a goddam thing about New Orleans? That shit doesn't happen to tourists there on an ongoing basis. You really have to find yourself in the wrong part of town -- like crossing Rampart street and sticking a sign on you that says "fuck with me". So unless you know about the city, STFU.

219 I'd probably put my ass on a plane for either Vegas or NoLa. I was hoping for some place I could ride the motorcycle to, but whatever.

I guess given the choice, I'd prefer Vegas. Seems weirder.

220 LV: Drinking on public streets allowed.
NOLA: Drinking on public streets BY UNIFORMED POLICE allowed.

LV: Hookers showing cleavage.
NOLA: Visitors showing cleavage.

221 163 Mary Catherine Ham.

+1

Posted by: jcjimi at November 12, 2009 03:59 PM (NEj2I)

Her name evokes the image of the meaty thigh of a Catholic nun hanging in the smokehouse.  Don't know exactly why, but it does.

222

Forgot about Spring Training games. Scottsdale Phoenix FTW!

Spring Training games are a blast!!

223

Has no one suggested...

Club Gitmo?  Cheap, great weather, and I hear they have lots of vacancies now.

224

#145 Alamo

No problems. Would it surprise you to know that California was invaded by leftards from the east coast in the late 60s and 70s who ruined this great state and have gerrymandered things so thoroughly with the help of a corrupt state and federal judiciary that even the many common sense items voted in are overturned by these nimrods. I love California. Lived in OC or San Diego all my life. I like Texas too, my parents lived there for years - just get tired of hearing all the Texans-are-real-Americans/Californians-are-leftist-retards all the friggin time. Too simplistic. I get the joke, just tired of it.

225 ACE's Conservative Caucus Convocation....

ACCC

226 yeah... if strip clubs are the big draw, something is badly wrong.

Or badly RIGHT!

227

NO is awesome. 

We could drink Hurricanes on the Moonwalk.  We could do the moonwalk on Bourbon Street.  We could hang out with transvestites in the French Quarter. 

The food is incredible. 

Like many cities, you'd need a guide, a local, to keep you out of the wrong alleys--or at least tell you where they are.

228 Vegas is so Cliche.

229 Whatever city is chosen, make sure there is an ACORN office there, so we can go give em the Alinsky up the back side.

230 Texas seems like a pretty obvious choice if you are trying to avoid the usual cultural and left-leaning hot spots.

231 Someone beat me to suggesting Orlando, but I don't know enough about the city re convention space. But God knows there are TONS of hotels because of all the various theme parks.

Vegas is cheap, though, or at least, it can be. And since teh Won actually named Vegas as somewhere not to waste money, that gives them more sympathy with me and I'd rather go there just to bite my thumb at our idiot president. (And yeah it's closer to LA where flights to Vegas are dirt cheap.)

232 LV:  Organized crime.
NOLA: Disorganized crime.

LV: Machine guns.
NOLA: Rocks and pointed sticks.

LV:  All you can eat buffet.
NOLA:  $3 Hurricanes.

233 I still think Chicago should be considered just because it's bumblefuck's base of support.  A real stick in his eye.  Probably not as cheap as LV, though.

234 Branson damnit !

235
LV-Quality beauties flashing their asses and breasts.
NOLA-Drunken trailer trash vomiting in the gutter with their guts hanging out from under their sorority shirts.


Now I'm conflicted.

236 Oh, I know.  Wichita, KS. 

237 Vegas... Even I might get out from behind the curtain for that.

238 New Orleans in the spring is expensive, as that's prime conference season there. The airfare isn't all that bad, though probably not nearly as cheap as Vegas.

239 Charleston, S.C.!  Conservative, good food, good spring weather, generally booze-and-cigar-friendly venues,


Charleston outlawed smoking in bars a year or two ago.  (My best friend lives there and bitches every time she goes to a bar outside the city limits, no matter how much I mock her for not patronizing bars subject to a fascist law she wanted in the first damn place.)

Can we put politics aside and focus on fun?

NOLA!

240

I was looking at vacation package deals for Vegas on Southwest.com and Delta.com for the beginning of April from LGA to Las Vegas.

The average price for Southwest is about a 1,000 bucks for 3 nights plus airfare.

The average price for Delta is about 700 bucks for 3 nights plus airfare. The five star hotels such as Paris and Caesar's palace is running about 900 bucks.

FYI

241 off damn yee sock puppet

242 >>>NOT A BLUE STATE. I do not want to stimulate any blue state economy.

Again, I don't care. Sorry, I just don't. This is going to be according to primary considerations of bang-for-the-buck, not incidental and secondary considerations of "what place in America do I find it conservatively-correct to spend my dollars in?"

Again, not a consideration. For what it's worth, NV is usually a red state and so is LA, except in the last blowout.

But it's not a consideration. It's just not. The idea is fun and cool, not "let's vote with our dollars."

It just is kind of annoying to me people are insisting on this, as if people who are gathering up a fair amount of money for a weekend should spend it on a less-desirable vacation just to make some political point.

Re: Texas, everyone in texas loves it, and I have heard San Antonio is the shizznat, and yet, still and all, 1 I find the weather either too cold or too hot most of the time and 2 not texas city really has the cache of a Miami, NO, or Vegas.

Besides -- it's almost certainly Vegas, unless NO comes through.

(PS, I don't know why people think they'd be killed. For one thing, people are going to tend to be in larger groups, and, for another, it's not as if tourists go looking for "the real city," the scary crime-ridden city. I mean, realistically -- how far from the hotel do you think you're going to venture? I know I'm personally staying in a pretty tight area right around the hotel, except maybe for one trip if someone tells me "You must go to this.")

At this point -- Ease up Ripley, you're just grinding metal.

243

make the executive decision here and just call it for vegas. there's no way you're going to see a hundred people to agree.

244

Ace,

You seriously need to at least include San Antonio in the negotiations.  Huge military population there...trips to visit vets at Brooke Army Medical Center could be arranged...nice PR image and just a good thing to do.  The riverwalk and lots of hotels are all located right by the convention center...entertainment, lodging, and the convention all within walking distance so no moron has to get liquored up and get in a car to go anywhere.  If you can't find a place on or near the riverwalk that has your kind of fun, you just aren't trying.  if in the end, the costs don't work out, fine...but at least consider it.

245 I'd be good for either Vegas or NOLA. I have a soft spot for N'Awleans, though. I was last there pre-Katrina and I'm sure things have changed a lot, but it's a great town (especially if you like live music, which I do).

246 Cincinnati.  We can sucker CJ to come along and lock him screaming in the Creationism Museum.

http://creationmuseum.org/

247 like crossing Rampart street and sticking a sign on you that says "fuck with me".

Posted by: Sassypants at November 12, 2009 04:10 PM (K75uU)

 

Really more past Claiborne these days. Not much danger anyway unless you deal drugs or get it on with a dealer's girl.

248 221 163 Mary Catherine Ham.

+1
Posted by: jcjimi at November 12, 2009 03:59 PM (NEj2I)

Her name evokes the image of the meaty thigh of a Catholic nun hanging in the smokehouse. Don't know exactly why, but it does.

Uh, I was with you right up to "meaty thigh," and then...well...

249 I am open to Vegas or any other city that has a lot of pools with topless chicks.

250 PJ O'Rourke said it best - a visit to New Orleans is like taking a sauna in a high-crime drainage ditch.

251 Guys, New Orleans is NOT just Cajun food.  Yes, it's got that (like K-Paul's and blackened redfish, or etouffé), but also CREOLE.  Yes, Creole. 

Creoles are the mix of Spanish/French/and local ingredients, which means like spicier french food.  Think Commander's Palace, the original Emeril's, Brennan's, Antoine's, etc.  Pricey and awesome.

Interesting New Orleans history.  First there were the creoles, the original settlers/descendants who inhabited the city.  Next came the Cajuns, which is a derivation of Acadians, the french hunters/fishers/trappers who refused to swear allegiance to the British after the French and Indian war.  They were forced to leave french-Canada, so they moved on in large numbers to the only other French territory in the new world:  Louisiana.  Pre-Louisiana Purchase, of course.  They became fisherman and trappers in LA, inhabiting the bayous and lowlands.  Thus, New Orleans is a mix of multiple cultures, which is kind of cool, as is the stubbornness of the Cajuns.

252 Havana?

253 Drew,

You should definitely organize a co-homo-blogger get together at the DoubleDown in Vegas. It's a fun place to start and end a night.

254

Ace, I would be touting Dallas until I read your comments. Did you say you are thinking Spring? The weather here would be okay, the airfares/major airport stuff would work. We do have a lot of strip joints, although not as many as we had 10 years ago. Some good stuff to see and do, the Mavs, Jerry Jones' Palace, Six Flags, and Dallas has plenty of hotel rooms, our crime rate is low, and we need the business. All that is assuming we haven't seceded by then.

Having made that pitch, San Antonio would be better, a lot more fun. But, man, San Diego would be the best.

255 1. San Diego
2. Las Vegas
3. Reno (so we can shoot a man, just to watch him die)

256 ...although in Chicago, when the men are out hunting hobos the moronettes can go pick up sailors.  Hrm.

257
How about Lake Havasu during Spring Break?

Posted by: Tweet's brain at November 12, 2009 03:31 PM (jVldi)

Moronettes in bikinis. Yea, I can get behind that. Plus I have a boat with plenty of seating.

But I'll go with Vegas here, because that'll never happen.

258 New Orleans smells.

259 Posted by: Cindy in San Diego at November 12, 2009 04:12 PM

Please find apology, version 1.0 on the previous thread.

We Texans do tend to irritate folks at times (because we are awesome), the great irony is I'm known for my humility back home........

260

One nice thing about Sn Antonio is that all of the night life is walking distance from the hotels.  Minimal need for cabs.  Decent weather that time of year.  They also have parties for weeks at a time for no particular reason ("Fiesta San Antonio 2010" is 15-25 April: 11 days of cheap beer, free music and food on a stick).  They have tons of convention space as well.

261 I'm interested but I would really like to know what our objective would be in having the conference.  Are we organizing for 2010?  For that I will take off work and spend my own money to attend.  Hanging out with bloggers and listening to "names" practice their 2012 speeches?  Sounds like fun but way down the priority list.

262 You should definitely organize a co-homo-blogger get together at the DoubleDown in Vegas.

Wouldn't that just be Gabe sitting at the end of the bar staring into his beer?

263 Sorry.

264 LV: Sin City.
NOLA: Chocolate city.

LV:  Comps
NOLA: Lagniappes

265 I would like to add to my last post. I changed the dates to include Thursday night in addition to the weekend and I got pretty much the same price.

266

Nashville's better than it sounds. NO is goofy in spring. Florida, you could line up Rubio and really piss off the establishment right.

Vegas sounds right but Jeebus I don't want to go to Vegas. But I will.

267

I sure as hell wouldn't spend a dime in San Francisco, that's for sure.     Posted by: Tweet's brain at November 12, 2009 03:41 PM (jVldi)

You got that right but I could have a lot of fun beating the livin shit out of the people that live there.

268 San Antonio is nice. I was there at the end of June a few years ago and it wasn't too bad weather wise. But I like heat and humidity so I'm not a good judge. The Riverwalk really is nice and downtown is small enough everything is walking distance.

That said, I don't think San Antonio is really that big a draw. No offense to Texans, because I really liked San Antonio, but it doesn't have the pull NO or Vegas does.

I'd love to go to NO, but I'm more leery about the crime there than the crime in Vegas.

269 I'm definitely up for a National Moron Meetup.  Vegas would be cool. 

270 "ACTING OUT"
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271 >>>make the executive decision here and just call it for vegas. there's no way you're going to see a hundred people to agree.

I have, I've said so: It IS Vegas, barring some good deal from New Orleans or some other cache sort of draw-city. I personally would favor NO over Vegas, but only if the price was about the same.

In all likelihood Vegas will wind up being the cheapest place.

As for it being a cliche: It's a cliche for a reason, you know?

272 Reno (so we can shoot a man, just to watch him die)

I thought that was Memphis. (Though I suppose you could be a sadistic bastard in both places.)

273 I will sweeten the pot for New Orleans with a case of donated Ketel One. Just don't blame me if you wake up with 50 cents in your hand and a rubber hanging out of your ass.

274 And dress code? Suits allowed but not requested.


I refuse to wear a fucking tie. Collared shirts are a once-a-month affair at best (almost always when meeting a customer for work).

Most days, my fly is open. But it's cool, 'cause my schlong is so short that it never plays peek-a-boo.

275 I'm sure Cao would love the support of NO.

276 "Wouldn't that just be Gabe sitting at the end of the bar staring into his beer?"

Well the "FreeZone" bar is right across the street.

277 Colorado is a crap shoot in the spring; I live next to Colo Spgs.

Phoenix is a good choice. 

Las Vegas would require morons to choose between the convention versus booze, hookers and gambling.  In other words, you'd have like six people wandering around in the convention hall, and they'd only be there because they got lost on the way to the booze and hookers.

278 #270 first line should be

ACE''S

279 @218

Sassypants,

Sorry, you're offended but a I lived there for years.

Though that was pre-Katrina, and with the coming of Obama it may now be heaven on earth, a heaven of murder and crime that smells like puke and or ass 24/7.

My take?

Great food. Great place to barf.

Lousy crime-ridden blowhole about everything else.

280 Any city with a large population of inebriated Ewoks. The trilling, the scratching, the zany hijinks.

281

Ace asked for suggestions. No need to be rude about those offered

Yeah there is.  Especially when half the suggestions are "Hey you should have it in my city.  Not just because I live there, but yeah- mostly because I live there".

282

Ace: I have, I've said so: It IS Vegas

Count two morons officially IN for the ride.

283

Phoenix is a good choice. 

If you're a golfer.  Which I am.  I'd love it.  But, nice weather.  Pretty deserts.  Meh.

284

I haven't worn socks in almost a year. Do we have to wear socks? Posted by: Jim in San Diego

Hey, if you saw Rush on... the Today show I think, he wasn't wearing socks.  If it's good enough for El Rushbo, it's good enough for Jim.

285 >>>Are we organizing for 2010? For that I will take off work and spend my own money to attend.

No, we're not. I don't even know what this means. How do you "organize" with people from all over the country? Races are local, not national.

And organize with 300 people, tops?

I don't even know what this means, really.

I am a realist, so I will tell you, realistically: There will be no Movement Aborning here.

It's not that I might not like that to happen, but it's not going to happen, so if that's your criterion, pass.

286 I just checked Orbitz and it's not any cheaper.

287 I Suggest Philly. Its got tons of attractions, good restaurants, its not an urban hellhole like NY, and its already a big tourist town. Not to mention its history. Seems fitting to do it in the city where so much happen to create our country. Independence hall, Liberty bell, the house of Benjamin Franklin, it just seems right.

288 For all the people saying Phoenix or Scottsdale, what the hell did I miss when I was there?

I've spent like 3 weeks in and around there and really didn't enjoy it at all. And I stayed at some nice places while I was there.

Maybe it's just me but I don't get the appeal.

289 I can't help but notice the folks agitating for Texas seem to be Texans

290 I can see it now. . .
A monument to the sway of the "new" media.
Conservative bloggers from around the country, nay the world, combine their boisterous, if not a little unrefined, and often over verbose readerships, into a singular gathering event.
An event that shows an America that CAN READ, CAN WRITE, (Sometimes only flaming insults, but we all have to start somewhere), and WANT to live in a FREE SOCIETY.
So many gathering in the great party city of (Insert city here, I'm for Vegas BTW) in an event the Enchanted Media will do their utmost to ignore. Like the shadow of a lurking asteroid; The mass of those who reject the idea that a few news networks can control the knowledge of the people is the harbinger of doom to the old concept of news, and, at the same time, a new younger, trendier, image of conservatism will emerge, the counter culture to the "old white guy" image we have sported for decades. My God it would be beautiful, and, would happen without so much as a whisper from the networks. Like a child hiding his head under the covers at night, they believe their thin cloth of silence can obscure and protect them from that they fear. A people who's knowledge they cannot control.

291 I'd go to Vegas too, but agree with Tex. Keep an open mind about San Antonio. It's a walkable city. Fantastic food and plenty to see. The Alamo was so touching to see - did you know that no building is allowed to cast a shadow on it? (I didn't know this until I visited.) Just breathtakingly beautiful Riverwalk. Even if you don't convene there, if you haven't seen it - go. My favorite city in the U.S. so far.

292 I agree Ace, expect nothing and see what comes.  This way there is really no downside...

293 In NO we could bribe Ray Nagin, ask him for the goood party.

294

This is a really stupid thread.

Where to have a Moron meet up?

Where the fuck do they bottle Valu-rite?

Bingo!  We're there and we have a sponsor!

295 its not an urban hellhole like NY

Philadelphia isn't an urban hellhole? Philadelphia, PA?

296 Ace, maybe this should be the first annual Moronosphere Convention instead?

Following Blazer's idea, Vegas would allow for us moronettes to be in bikinis. Don't the fancy hotels all have awesome pools?

297 >>>I Suggest Philly.

I suggest you are a mental patient.

This, again, will be in either the cold part of the spring or the slightly warmer part of the spring.

The entire Northeast/Atlantic coast is off the table. Personally, I'm not traveling from NYC winter into Philadelphia winter, just to compare winters.

298 I have lived in Michigan all my life. Unfortunately now, still.

299 At some point, before earnings the airlines will panic.  If Ace can mange to provide a time frame or even a date, peopel can book the low refundable fares that will result from the panic.

SW recently had a 25% off sale.

300

Now to vote: 1. San Diego. Beautiful City. Excellent waterfront convention center. Gaslamp District downtown packed with restaurants, bars and clubs. Beaches of many varieties - sandy, cliffs, party/surfer, family, the kind where hot girls in thong bikinis are rollerblading. San Diego Bay with its huge navy presence. USS Midway. Mission Bay for all you water sports types.Shopping til you be dropping. Close-by (20-30 min drive) mountains for hiking & general nature-enjoying activities. Camp Pendleton with public paintball courses and Marines. Balboa Park is truly beautiful and chockful of museums if that's your thing (it's one of mine).Seaworld, the Zoo, Legoland, Raging Waters Waterslide park for those looking for family-oriented activities. An easy to navigate airport about 5 minutes from downtown & waterfront areas. And, of course me (and Jim, too).

2. Vegas. You all know what Vegas has to offer. Probably cheaper than San Diego.

I know Ace said not to vote on nearness to yourself, but these are important factors for me and I think my 2 selections meet all other needs

301 New Orleans is a great idea because I could make it!

302 Non withstanding the quality of alternative entertainment in Dallas, I hear the same impressive, impacting, thoroughly fascinating options exist in Vegas. BTW.

303 How about my buddy's ranch just outsided Waco, Texas, about ten miles from George Bush's ranch!?  We could invite W over.  Have him bring his barbecue rig.

304 yeah I don't want to knock phoenix but....

Apart from golf (which doesn't every city have) -- what?

It would be warm in the spring, but then, so would everywhere I'm considering.

I just don't see an Ann Coulter saying 'Whoopee, free trip to Phoenix!"

305 I just mean that I couldn't make it if it were anywhere else.

Sorry, I got excited and didn't read the instructions. Just don't count my vote, I guess.

306 You could walk around in the pastures.  Shoot firearms.  Dodge cowshit.  Take mushrooms.  Listen to the mooings.

307 could be quite proftiable also Ace

308

Color me confused. Last night I thought the primary criteria was a place where we could fire our guns wildy, had casino gambling and hookers.  Guess I should stop the order on the "Welcome to  East St. Louis, Illinois, Ace!" Banner.

309 DrewM., staying at hotels on Van Buren Street in Phoenix is not the nicest part of the area. Just sayin'. ;-)

310
Ace,
The solution: http://tinyurl.com/8osnl

This is a little off strip but the food and entertainment tends to be very good, and cheap.  Plus it blends the two cities you are thinking about.

Neil Sedaka is playing November 12-15.

311 Bush is making a speech on Thursday.  He is starting some sort of think tank to foster the ideas from his presidency and appointing scholars to work on this.  This is in conjunction with his libarary.  Maybe you can invite one of the scholars.

I heard Coulter comes if you pay for her to bring a friend.

312

I just don't see an Ann Coulter saying 'Whoopee, free trip to Phoenix East St. Louis"

But I can dream!

313

How many of you people have actually been to New Orleans?

It was a pus-encrusted shithole before Katrina.

314 Don't forget, you can now carry guns into bars in Phoenix

315

Hmmm....  wtf?

HOUSTON! HOUSTON! HOUSTON!

In the Red state.  Deep water super port.  Energy super hub.  Health care super hub.  Fantastic communities.  Way diverse(you name it we have it).   GREAT FOOD!  We inherited New Orleans talent in great quantities.  Beautiful women(all flavors).  And right now.. heavenly weather.  And wanna go green..?  You can fry an egg outside in August using no electricity or gas.. just mother nature.  You don't have to wrap the pipes.. How'bout that... ya'll?

I can be more specific if you like.  :  )

316 It's like Peggy Hill is posting in here.

SAN ANTONIO!

317 Neil Sedaka is playing November 12-15.

And guess who's playing there in May of 2010? 

http://tinyurl.com/ydkobno

Like it was meant to be...

318 This better not be a sword fight.

319 After the little O put the cabbash on Vegas by name even. It is almost like a little screw you right in his face.

320

If we're just going for red, Fort Worth is much redder than Dallas and the food is better too.  Dallas is full of coke-addled posers who voted all the Republicans in the city out of office in '06.  Including sitting judges who'd been on the bench 20 years.  Even the dogcatcher.  They have an openly lesbian hispanic as their county sheriff.  Texas is not as thoroughly red as you think...

That being said, New Orleans is too dangerous. 

I vote Vegas. The Gaughn family who own the SouthCoast in Vegas (used to own the SunCoast) are reliable conservatives who would cut you a deal. The SouthCoast is not on the strip, but it's a nice hotel. They are horse show people and built it for horse competitions (LOTS of meeting space) and they didn't skimp on anything.

I love Phoenix too. I love San Diego more, but who doesn't?

321 Cyn

Four Seasons in Scottsdale.

Boy, I miss those days.

322

One advantage NOLA has is it sounds like there are more locals from there who can help guide. Where to eat, go for music, wholesome places for the classy folks, etc. It's very easy for visitors to stay safe.

Hotels are hurting, and can be cheap, but even nice B&Bs are hurting more. I've gotten weekly rates of around 300.

323 >>> could be quite proftiable also Ace

Exactly, John Ryan. A man could get rich fleecing 100-300 people of $10 each. Assuming that the thing doesn't fall through and he loses the money he put up to secure convention space.

But if it all comes together? That $10 per person he's levying on everyone to cover unexpected expenses could have him on Easy Street for LIFE.

Dude's like a fucking psychic. He sees right through me and my machinations.

324 Long as it's not Honolulu. Place has a history of being surprise attacked by foreign carrier dive and torpedo bombers..........

325 Meh. Link fail on the last one.  I mis-read the tour dates.

326
Following Blazer's idea, Vegas would allow for us moronettes to be in bikinis. Don't the fancy hotels all have awesome pools?

Posted by: wherestherum at November 12, 2009 04:27 PM (GZnia)

Cut. Jib. Newsletter.

GMTA.

327 OOOOPS I just rembered.
Didn't Vegas elect that jerkface Harry?

328 >>>If we're just going for red...

I assure you, for the twentieth time, we are not.

329 This is a huge undertaking.  It might pick up steam and everyone who has felt that they can't really speak their mind might just decide that joining ACE is the best way to let go.  Look at the tea party movement.  It has taken on a life of its own.  Don't think three hundred is accurate. maybe more than a thousand.

330 56 Reno?

Posted by: Dave at November 12, 2009 03:42 PM (Xm1aB)

Ace bit a hobo in Reno, just to watch him cry.

331 Austin's a great destination city.

Things are open late, there's a nice walkable downtown.  And despite claims to the contrary, there are tons of conservatives there.

I don't think Texas has any other legitimate destination cities, though they are great places to actually settle down in.

I would consider going if this was in the San Diego area... hell, anywhere with a great beach would sound pretty good.  Florida has a few good beaches, for example.  And it's a good state for politicing.

332

315

The first Houstonian, hell, the first person, I've ever heard say nice things about Houston.

333 Dude's like a fucking psychic. He sees right through me and my machinations.

> Texas hatin' evil genius, that Ace.............

334 Austin's a great destination city.

I agree. Cool music.

335 Gotta be Vegas.

Miami sucks.  Sure it's fun, but for hobo kicking people?

I'd throw Phoenix and San Diego into the mix as well.

336

Exactly, John Ryan. A man could get rich fleecing 100-300 people of $10 each. Assuming that the thing doesn't fall through and he loses the money he put up to secure convention space.

Yeah, cause that works out to $100,000,000,000 to $300,000,000,000 - WE CAN PAY FOR HEALTHCARE NOW!

337 Alamo - all is good. Just needed to vent a little. Thanks for taking it well.

338

This is a really stupid thread.

Where to have a Moron meet up?

Where the fuck do they bottle Valu-rite?

Bingo!  We're there and we have a sponsor!

Somerville, MA?

339 I like San Antonio, but the last time we vacationed there, a bird committed suicide in our hotel pool.

On the other hand, we went on a subsequent trip to Kauai and another bird committed suicide in our hotel pool....

I think it may be the sight of me in a bathing suit that drove them to it.

340

hell, I forgot George and Laura live here. Ace, I can drop by and see if he would come over for some laughs if we had it in Dallas.

Their house is only about 10 miles from mine. Separated only by about 80 secret service and cops. Our law firm is two miles away from his house. The cops start giving you that "what's your buiness here" look if you drive within a  mile of the house.

But hey, if it's Vegas, it's Vegas.

341

Vegas Reasons

1 In Harry Reid's face

2 desert a great place to dig holes IYKWIMAITYD

3 gaming

4 hostesses

5 3rd and 4th tier starlets and reality show rejects hanging out at poolside

6 weather

7 hawai'ian shirts fit right in

8 there's a chance- just a chance, mind you- that you'll run in to Marg Helgenberger shooting a scene for CSI

342 I don't even like Austin.

343

Reno sounds good! Just to see those whacky cops w/the tight blue shorts, big buts & bullet proof vests! Those guys sure are funny.

344 You are going to need to charge way more than ten bucks.  Ten bucks won't cover the water for the room. 

Plus you need all kinds of event insurance and such.

345 Okay, I updated. I didn't intend to solicit further suggestions, but really to limit them, and explain why I am looking towards Vegas (and maybe, as one draw suggested, NO).

I'm not going to read more suggestions because it's the same thing over and over.

At some point a decision has to be made, and in fact it was made: It's Vegas, barring a steal from a city with a bit more actual character and cache.

There is no way to please 100 or more people and it makes no sense to try.

346 The Orleans is part of the Sun Coast chain.

Plus, as Slublog pointed out, Paul Fucking Anka is playing at The Orleans from May 8-10.

Great conservative family owns this casino.

Off strip, but just take a 5 minute cab ride, makes for cheaper food and rooms.

Plus, there is a MASSIVE adult video and toy store across the street, I shit you not.

347 I can't help but notice the folks agitating for Texas seem to be Texans

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2009 04:26 PM (jlvw3)

Well  that could be a reason but its not because of the travel since a plane flight to NO or Vegas isn't much longer than Houston to Dallas or Dallas to San Antonio / Austin and so forth. 

Clff Clavin fact - El Paso is closer to Los Angeles than to Houston. . 

348 Las Vegas also sounds great.  Why not?  It's fun and kinda cheap.

349

Drew M--I figured you weren't shelpping. Just a little fun poke.

 

I live here in the Valley of the Sun, AZ, so I put this info out admitting my bias, just so you have real data:

Greater Phoenix Convention & Visitors Bureau

Arizona Office of Tourism

350 Jones, you forgot

9 Moronettes in bikinis poolside

351

Put Dan Rather and W on the invite list!

352 Las Vegas works for me.

Of course Denver would be way better, simply because I can drive there in an hour. But Vegas!

353 There is no way to please 100 or more people and it makes no sense to try.

Yeah, it's hard enough to get 4 people to agree on what movie to rent/watch, this wasn't going to be handled democratically.

Plus, I wanted Vegas so I'm pretty happy.

354 hey could we do it in minneapolis cuz i'm here and theres a really good outback steakhouse

355 Ace,
YOU MUST READ MY LAST POST!

URGENT!

356

How 'bout the Geographic Center of the Contiguous United States - located within a small park near the town of Lebanon, Kansas.

On second thought, maybe not. Too many tornadoes........ 

357 NOLA flights are not expensive.  southwest flies there. 
its really only tacky during mardi gras, which is (tues) feb 24th for 2010.  do it late march, and it will be well enough after mardi gras, but before jazz fest.  great weather at that time of year.  also, flights and hotels will be cheaper and easier to book.

as for it being dangerous, you have to be not just a moron, but an 8th degree Biden-belt moron.  i've driven through magnolia - a.k.a. "home of the souljah" - and i barely had looks shot at me.  besides, many of the cockroaches got flooded out and now reside in houston, atlanta, and elsewhere.

boston-nola roundtrip, southwest: 3/5-3/8 is $225
san diego-nola rountrip, same dates: $246

358 As someone who won't be there and have been to conventions across the country I would say 1) Vegas and 2) New Orleans. Ace if you haven't been to NOLA keep it in consideration. Very convention friendly town with lots to do.

359 Ace - we know it's probably Vegas and understand why. Go ahead and ignore us because this could go on for a long time. SAN DIEGO!

360

There is no way to please 100 or more people and it makes no sense to try.

Slacker....I do it every day!

361

To the 2 or 3 people running down New Orleans, let me say that I have been there, on a number of occassions, both pre and post-Katrina. The people there have always been wonderful, the food is great, the music is wonderful and there is actually some history to see (the battlefield tour, by way of paddlewheel boat, is apretty nice way to kill a couple of hours).  However, it is possible to have a shitty trip anywhere, including some of the other places mentioned here.

Besides, New Orleans has vodoo....Vegas has Harry Reid........nuff said.

362 You should invite Napolitano and the F  B  I, they're going to be there anyway taking pictures.

363 FUBAR,

Houston is the USA's best kept secret.  It's got so much culture, so much art, so much great food.  It's beautiful, despite claims to the contrary.  It's truly free, and it's got the best realistically attainable wage : cost of living ratio on the planet.

There's so many great $100,000+ jobs in Houston, and you can live like a king on that salary in Houston.  $500,000 buys you a castle, and even servants, if you really want that.  Or a huge ranch.  In most cities with the level of trade and opportunity Houston has, that kind of money does not go nearly as far.  It's not the best vacation spot, I admit.  I wouldn't want this convention thing to be there.  But it's a nice damn place.

364

Would it be ironic for the mayor of Vegas to get in a *kiss my ass Obama* moment, Conservatives patronized Vegas, against your advice, you capitialist-killing man-child.

365 Jones, you forgot

9 Moronettes in bikinis poolside

Posted by: wherestherum at November 12, 2009 04:39 PM (GZnia)

 

bless you, child

366 New Orleans has vodoo....Vegas has Harry Reid.......

I move we take the voodoo to the public street outside Harry Reid's Vegas office.

367
There is no way to please 100 or more people and it makes no sense to try.




*ahem* speak for yourself

368 Dude's like a fucking psychic. He sees right through me and my machinations.

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2009 04:33 PM (jlvw3)

He may have been volunteering to help make it profitable by being the feature attraction in a softball-throwing booth, at $5 a pop.  I am sure he's quite used to taking balls in the face.

369 uniball,

Interesting, thanks.

As kinda awesome as that is -- bear in mind, this won't be a Moron thing, specifically. I don't want to pick a date just for Paul Anka.

370

I second Jim in San Diego that it should be in Pyongyang.  But, barring that...

VEGAS.  Seems fairly obvious to me, actually, looking at these other ideas.  And no, I'm not from Vegas. 

If it were in Vegas, you could count me in for sure barring any previous (and extremely important) commitments.  Vegas is a blast anyways.

371 Posted by: Cyn at November 12, 2009 04:39 PM (cxzu3)

I think that area is like what Michael said about Dallas, great place to live, not so much on the visit thing.

I really like Sedona and Flagstaff though.

Not enough to go back but for a day or two, it was beautiful country.

372 Vegas is always great because I went for the first time on my honeymoon last year, and I think I need another reason to go back.  So much fun!  And for a moron/moronette meetup/convention type thing?  Even better!

373

HOUSTON! HOUSTON! HOUSTON!

trax, are you nuts? we would never see a single speaker, all of us would be sitting in rental cars on the Loop waiting for the traffic to die down. not to mention getting car-jacked by some idiot trying to get back to NO.

374 367
There is no way to please 100 or more people and it makes no sense to try.

*ahem* speak for yourself

Posted by: Jenna Jameson at November 12, 2009 04:43 PM (+FzLa)

Sure, one, two or five at a time.  But all at once?

375 Fuck New Orleans.  Las Vegas sounds cool, San Diego or Coronado Island sound cool, but New Orleans?  Is it really fun?  Last time I was there is smelled like piss and the cops were all asleep.

I'm sure there's a nice hotel and bar downtown, but if you're going to settle for that, go to Richmond or Nashville or freaking Tulsa.

376 Hey Texas people: I lived in the Dallas/Ft Worth area for 6 months last year, and visited every single mentionable city from the Panhandle to the border during that time as well. Great state, lovely places to live. It is not in any way a destination for something like this. Just not.

377 Okay, it's Vegas. Now we need to concentrate on the speaker list and the lesbian pron theme.

378 Come on the ideal city would be Edmonton, which has lots of really cheap hotel rooms in March. I just got an email from Continental that they now have direct flights from Houston, so all the morons in Chicago, Minneapolis and Denver will find it very easy to get there.

And if you are thinking, but the weather, might I remind you that Edmonton has the best Mall in the world. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Edmonton_Mall)

379 Maybe Harry will be available for card tricks, some porking instructions and how to make property valuable. Besides, Vegas needs the help. Ensign can show us where the girls hang out.

380

I'm not going to read more suggestions because it's the same thing over and over.

At some point a decision has to be made, and in fact it was made: It's Vegas, barring a steal from a city with a bit more actual character and cache.

There is no way to please 100 or more people and it makes no sense to try.

So, you are saying East St. Louis doesn have the actual character and cache to do this.  Damn, now i am hurt.

Did I mention I orderd a banner?

381 As kinda awesome as that is -- bear in mind, this won't be a Moron thing, specifically. I don't want to pick a date just for Paul Anka.

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2009 04:44 PM (jlvw3)

You don't have to reveal that motive to anyone else.  And if anyone asks, just say it was a happy coincidence.

382  I don't want to pick a date just for Paul Anka.

Dick!

383 Hell, I'm in. I've got shitloads of Delta miles, so I can fly for free, and I can use Marriott points to stay for free.  That leaves me plenty of Val-U-Rite money.

384 As kinda awesome as that is -- bear in mind, this won't be a Moron thing, specifically. I don't want to pick a date just for Paul Anka.

Turns out I was wrong about Anka.  He played in May of this year.  Why he still has his old schedule up is beyond me.

385

I understand your interest in "a warmer venue" during the spring, but for future consideration from about May on might I suggest .....Indianapolis?

It's a truly wonderful city with a brand new airport. Absolute heart of the Country so no single faction (east coast, west coast, north or south) could complain about distance. The city is hosting conventions for organzations of all types pretty much year round. The best endorsement I can offer is the professional sportscast media who choose Indy over all other cities for convenience, clean, safe with wonderful venues for before and after the meeting schedule. Don't presume that because they don't have a casino based tourism they're a second rate destination. Before you jump to conclusions against this suggestion, simply take a look at what they DO offer that other cities don't.

Low cost hotels and travel, concerts, theatres, museums, racing with 3 world class events each year, sports venues with Big Ten, NBA, and NFL all at the top of their league, shopping, world class dining of virtually every known style, winerys, and a beautiful Art Deco ambiance second to no other city. Indianapolis offers virtually everything any other major convention location offers without the financial rape or dirty worn out venues....in a predominantly Red State and a central location. Plus, Hoosier Hospitality is legendary.

Do you really WANT to lose all your money in casinos just because you went to a convention? In that case they have casino and off track betting available. But why? There's so much else to see and do and they have festivales going on MOST of the year. Jazz anyone?

Before settling on any other location, contact the Indianapolis Business Chamber and see what they can do for your organzation to bring the event to the city. This city hosts groups from mere dozens up to the 500,000 that annually make it to the Indianapolis 500 Race. You might be surprized at what they can offer at no additional charge compared to making arrangments in any other city.

386 I think it's people in texas who keep plugging texas.

It's not that there's anything wrong with Texas. It's just that I know, personally, if I'm spending tight dollars on a trip, it isn't going to be Texas.

387 Maybe Harry will be available for card tricks, some porking instructions

EEEEeeeeeeewwwwww. (Sorry. I get silly near quitting time.)

388

I think the theme should be...

Titties n Beer

389 >>>I understand your interest in "a warmer venue" during the spring, but for future consideration from about May on might I suggest .....Indianapolis?

No.

390

OK I'm late to the party but is it that Ace is trying to come up with a moron convention and is leaning toward Vegas unless NOLA can prove to be a better draw? Is that right? And Ann Coulter might show up?

And when would this convention be?

 

Johnny Black is Johnny Black no matter what city you're in.

391 The only other centrally located American city with more character and cachet than Vegas is Branson, Missouri.  And since you don't need Yakov Smirnoff to emcee the thing... or do you?

392
Ace

Just a bit of info, mid April ( 12th-15th)  is the National Association of Broadcasters convention in Vegas which is one of the largest conventions of the year there

393 Maybe we should of sent Da One & Michelle to do East ST Louis' bidding...Oh wait....

394 Wait a second...I've got two conferences in Vegas in the Spring. If there's any overlap, I get my company to pay my way!

395 To be honest with you, we don't even have to go to a Paul Anka show.

We know Man of Integrity, who can get us in touch with Paul Anka.

If it's really a big thing, we can get the guy to come see us for a bit of money or something.

396 I understand your interest in "a warmer venue" during the spring, but for future consideration from about May on might I suggest .....Indianapolis?

No.

Ha! Even we were not that summarily rejected.

397 Personally, I think Austin is a terrific destination spot.  The views along the river are spectacular, the eating and music are great, etc etc.  It's not Las Vegas or San Diego, though.

It does kick the living shit out of New Orleans, in every way imaginable.

398 So....who is up for an orgy!??!

399 but guys indanapolis has a great outback steakhouse

400

Maybe we should of sent Da One & Michelle to do East ST Louis' bidding...Oh wait....

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

401 If it's really a big thing, we can get the guy to come see us for a bit of money or something.

Shirts! He'll play if the guys get shirts!

402 Ace -- I'll be there no matter where the event is held.

403 I think it's nice that people are city-proud or whatever.

But:

I have to stress: Destination City. Indianapolis, Phoenix, San Antonio, Houston... these are not destination cities. These are just places near you.

404

Ace, a couple of suggestions:

1) Make sure you schedule this far enough in advance.  Being a bachelor, I probably have fewer commitments than other Morons, but I still would want to have this booked something like 4 months in advance.   Otherwise other commitments start popping up that you can't get out of.

2) If there are planning/preparation things that you think can be parceled out to responsible morons, I bet you could find some.  I could probably volunteer a little bit of time towards this.

405

#386 I think it's people in texas who keep plugging texas.

People in San Diego would never do anything that low. Love you, Alamo. Pretty sure I remember you from somewhere.

 

406

No idea if I'd make it or not.  I like the "suits not required" thing, but perhaps a "must bathe / shower within 24 hours of the event" rule isn't a bad idea.  We're talking people from the Internet after all.

I'm still not real clear on what the goal and/or purpose would be though.  It's coming across as an excuse for random Internet strangers who happen to be conservative bloggers / blog readers to party together.  Not that there's anything wrong with that.

407
 Vegas: Yes.

New Orleans: Not so much.

408 Do you really WANT to lose all your money in casinos just because you went to a convention?

No. After some in your face entertainment, I want to get so drunk I see double then stagger around the strip and look at the pretty lights and listen to the bells and whistles.

409 Put up a poll thingy.

410 115 It's vegas unless New Orleans is as desperate as they are.

It is definitely not Tulsa.

I do not know why people keep suggesting these towns.

I can guarantee you that the name draws I have are coming for the fun of a free vacation for the price of a speech, and are not going to do so for Tulsa.

EDISON, NJ!!!

Come on.

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2009 03:51 PM (jlvw3)

They just had a huge Porno Convention there.  If it is good enough for Bree Olson, it should be good enough for everyone here

411
Politically Incorrect @ 385:  I can't tell if that is sarcasm or not.

412 Can we steal a tiger and get punched by Mike Tyson?  Please!

413 Do you really WANT to lose all your money in casinos just because you went to a convention?

No. After some in your face entertainment, I want to get so drunk I see double then stagger around the strip and look at the pretty lights and listen to the bells and whistles.

Oh and maybe do something political too. Almost forgot that.

414 I'm sure there's a nice hotel and bar downtown, but if you're going to settle for that, go to Richmond or Nashville or freaking Tulsa.

Posted by: The Nobel Peace Prize Committee (NPPC) at November 12, 2009 04:45 PM (3Okxb)

Hey bub,lay off of Richmond. I'll have you know theres a Hardees right up the street straight across from a 7-11 so food and booze would be no problem. You guys could camp in my backyard and I have a large deck that could double as a stage for guest speakers and pole dancing after dark.

415

Hmmm....  wtf?

HOUSTON! HOUSTON! HOUSTON!

Posted by: trax at November 12, 2009 04:32 PM (Xgwet)

I'm down in the Galleria area on a two day business trip right now. I was attacked by a mosquito the size of a Quetzalcoatylus this afternoon. I miss my home - dry old West Texas!

Still, we eat like crazy down here.

Best Texas Deli - Kenny and Ziggy's on Post Oak and my beloved Ragin' Cajun on Richmond.

Tough shite, Ace. We love our state.

416 Hence the need for a theme. Right-wing blogging? Organization on the Internet? MK Ham on Drunken Exhibitionism?

417

Just a bit of info, mid April ( 12th-15th)  is the National Association of Broadcasters convention in Vegas which is one of the largest conventions of the year there

That's kinda cool! Maybe Rush could stop by...!

418

I have to stress: Destination City. Indianapolis, Phoenix, San Antonio, Houston... these are not destination cities. These are just places near you.

See, we are not on that list that means....

We're still in the running, baby!

419 Ginger, stop looking at vacation packages. There's no savings to be found there, in my experience. Besides, Ace will probably get a deal from a hotel that will offer a reduced convention rate.

420 Vegas.  Vegas.   Secondly, Denver and Colo Springs are NOT necessarily cold in the spring, it depends on your definition of cold.  It can be 70 in January as well.   
Vegas.  Vegas. 

421

Garfield, NJ is the home of former great Jet, Wayne Chrebet!

Just sayin...  

422 but seriusly guys    guys the indanapolis outbacksteakhouse has a special deal thursday and friday on their blooming onion

423 'k

Vegas it is. I've never been. Hope it all pans out. It would be great to attend this.

Good luck!

424 If it's really a big thing, we can get the guy to come see us for a bit of money or something.

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2009 04:49 PM (jlvw3)

Well, hell, for a bit of money, I'll come and see you.  But let's keep my really big thing out of it.

425 Perhaps it has already happened, but maybe Wynn, or one of the other LV bigs is actually reads this site, and might step forward with some.... FACILITATION?  LV is not the kind of place that can do well as long as The One and Pelosi, et al are at the helm...

426 1) Make sure you schedule this far enough in advance.

Will do, am looking for the spring.

2) If there are planning/preparation things that you think can be parceled out to responsible morons, I bet you could find some.

Already have some help offered and will of course seek more.

We have offers for legal stuff, publicity, booking guests, and even some maybe-sponsors.

We will need more and stuff but it's good so far.

At some point we will need the website, for booking/schedule/etc.

427

Ace,

Please keep the date for Easter in mind for 2010 (Roman Catholic/Protestant and Eastern Orthodox Easter is April 4, 2010) - some of us morons take our faith seriously.   I can't be running off to Sin City on the Holiest day of the year! (Offense to islam, intentional)

428

That's kinda cool! Maybe Rush could stop by...!

Posted by: Cyn at November 12, 2009 04:54 PM (cxzu3)

Except that there won't be any hotel rooms to be had when the NAB is in town....

429

it has to be gary indianna.

 

430 427

Ace,

Please keep the date for Easter in mind for 2010 (Roman Catholic/Protestant and Eastern Orthodox Easter is April 4, 2010) - some of us morons take our faith seriously.   I can't be running off to Sin City on the Holiest day of the year! (Offense to islam, intentional)

Posted by: The Butcher at November 12, 2009 04:58 PM (8g9qq)

Doesn't Vegas do an Elvis Easter Midnight Mass?

431 Don't the fancy hotels all have awesome pools?

I've stayed at the Bellagio several times. The pool is gorgeous, the cabanas are heavenly, but for some weird reason the pool itself is super shallow, like only waist high, so boring.

The pool at the Hard Rock is a lot more fun. Good place to spot celebrities too, if you're into that.

432 This is really the only event I can think of that would make me enthusiastic about going to Las Vegas.

433

Vegas.  Because Elvis said so.

434 I'm sure that Vegas morons and former Vegas morons, like myself, can put together a visitors guide of some sort that will steer people to the best spots.

It could have helpful hints like:

1. Don't go downtown unless you're almost out of money.

2. Drink at a local bar before you hit the strip.

3a. Just take a cab, fuckface.

3b. If you are off strip on Friday or Saturday, call a car service or start walking towards a major route and flag a cab. Cuz' they won't be leaving the strip and airport to go out to your Best Western to pick your cheap ass up.

4. Those aren't coupons those little Mexican people are handing out.

5. Don't rush, nothing closes.

435 There are lots of medium cities with better prices on hotels and cheap flights. I've put conventions together before

Look into Austin during the summer, Dallas is affordable to fly to, and has lots of good priced hotels.

Look into Panama City Beach too, you'd be surprised, as well as Tampa. Tampa is dirt cheap actually, and really a fun town.

436 Not that I'm going but I would still vote for Miami.
If I were, I would be bringing my family and Vegas doesn't do it for them.
Nobody has any interest in New Orleans. Most people I talk to put it one or 2 steps up from Cleveland or Detroit.

437 So....who is up for an orgy!??!

Oh-oh.   (looks around nervously)

438 Paul fucking Anka?????

439 come to Tampa, it's warm here and there's lots to do plus it's just a hop and a skip to Diznee World

440

Did I mention my pool (available for parties) in SAN DIEGO has a waterfall, slide and huge lounging/drinking shelf?

441 Just so long as there's a scheduled invasion of the Bellagio water feature with kayaks -- special prizes to the Morons and Moronettes who get blasted the highest into the air by the fountains and stay aloft longest!

442

Might I suggest the wonderful town of Deadwood, South Dakota?  The gold pours out of the ground like water, and we have the best fucking whores in the western territories.  And pussy's half price for the next 15 minutes!

443
I've stayed at the Bellagio several times. The pool is gorgeous, the cabanas are heavenly, but for some weird reason the pool itself is super shallow, like only waist high, so boring.



Thats not a bug, thats a feature.

AITYKEWIM

444 I can hear Ace's blood pressure rising with all the shenanigans.  Did anyone suggest Schenectady yet?  Seriously though, I second (or third or w/e) Tahoe - all the best of everything.  Even if I couldn't make it I would be willing to donate to the cause so that it can happen.  I would bet I am not the only one who feels that way.  Carry on.

445 Here's an idea: Fuck NPPC. If you came to New Orleans and had a shitty time, you couldn't organize a fuckup in a whorehouse with a fistful of Benjamins.

I'm cool with Vegas, but fuck your smarmy condescending shit. Ace is talking about organizing a good time and all you offer is gripes. Bet you're the life of the fucking party at whatever gleaming beacon of entertainment you call home.

446 Sunday afternoon at the pool at the Hard Rock is, I understand, the best meat market in the United States.

447 So, you are saying East St. Louis doesn have the actual character and cache to do this.  Damn, now i am hurt.


East St. Louis? Are you high? It's a National Moron ^{(and other conservative blogger-types)} Meet, not a Road Warrior cast convention.

Carpenter filmed Escape from New York in East St. Louis because the '70s era South Bronx wasn't apocalyptic enough for his budget.

448 Look into Austin during the summer, Dallas is affordable to fly to, and has lots of good priced hotels. Look into Panama City Beach too, you'd be surprised, as well as Tampa. Tampa is dirt cheap actually, and really a fun town.
Posted by: BrackaBama

The deciding factor here is if these cities have a local Outback with Thursday and Friday deals on their bloomin' onion.

449 #439  come to Tampa, it's warm here and there's lots to do plus it's just a hop and a skip to Diznee World.

Disney World?  No thanks.  They got a good scam going though - pay an extra fee to stand in line for the "express" line".

450
Blazer


That's because people that stay at the Bellagio generally don't like to get their hair wet or ruin their makeup.

451

Thats not a bug, thats a feature.

AITYKEWIM

Yes.  Yes, I do.

452 >>>Ginger, stop looking at vacation packages. There's no savings to be found there, in my experience. Besides, Ace will probably get a deal from a hotel that will offer a reduced convention rate.

Zactly. Hotels give you space depending on the catering you order. Like, if you want this hall for three days, you need to schedule two rubber chicken dinners with us and a horsdevouers mixer.

And then there is the block of rooms you negotiate. You get a discounted prince on the block, and it's something like for every fifty rooms, you get one free. The free rooms, of course, will go to the guests, and since we won't have many, we'll have to buy additional rooms out of pocket.

I'd love it to get a free room but I don't think it's in the cards.

At any rate, this is the sort of thing that has to be negotiated soon with a hotel.

453 Wow, I see at the Vegas meeting planners site that my timeshare has 2,500 sq. ft. of meeting space available!  Cool!

454 It seems that Dear Leader made a pool stop recently...

http://bit.ly/3JmvnM

455

It's not that there's anything wrong with Texas. It's just that I know, personally, if I'm spending tight dollars on a trip, it isn't going to be Texas.

Which is why we make so much sense

1) Our casino (The Casino Queen) has the highest payouts on slots in the country  (and this is serious - I'm not making this up) and

2) we have the cheapest hookers in the country (o.k., we can't document that - just take our word, please).

456 Why not St. Louis?

457

I would like to emphasize runninrebel's 1st rule of Vegas:  "Don't go downtown unless you are out of money."

In fact, I'd like to amend it:  "Don't go to downtown Vegas.  Ever."

Ace, I don't know how familiar you are with Vegas, but don't believe anyone's lies about downtown being cool.  It's not. 

It is the strip or bust.  Anyways the prices there on the strip are super low now anyways.

458 Well, okay then! The hell with vegas, we're going to East St. Louis Illinois!!!!

Guys?

Be serious.

459 Redneck Riviera in LA (lower Alabama)...think bout it!

460 Why not St. Louis?

Because it's a shithole.

461 385

You just spent 5 minutes of your life that you'll never get back promoting of all places Indianapolis. Fuck NO.

462

If there are planning/preparation things that you think can be parceled out to responsible morons, I bet you could find some.    Posted by: dan-O at November 12, 2009 04:51 PM (+9Rf

 

LOL

463
Carpenter filmed Escape from New York in East St. Louis because the '70s era South Bronx wasn't apocalyptic enough for his budget.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 12, 2009 05:04 PM (t3Mi3)

Thats because he was a little early for '2000s era Detroit. Oh well, they're shooting the Red Dawn remake there. Nothing like a ready made WWIII wasteland at your disposal.

464

I agree that Vegas is a great destination point and a great place for entertainment.  Too great.  If I went to Vegas I would end up still having to read AOSHQ to find out what happened at the conference. 

465 Look, How about New York City? It's like right where I am and stuff.

Obviously it's a destination city, there are plenty of hotels... NEW YORK CITY!

See, I'm not doing that. Why is everyone else?

466 Why not St. Louis?

They have no Outback Steakhouse.

467 Personally, I loathe New Orleans.  It's crass and dirty. 

I haven't been to Vegas, but that sounds like more fun to me. 

I don't know how many people you are expecting, but the idea that you need to hit one of the traditional conference cities seems a bit off to me.  I still think a destination city like San Diego would be great.  I'm not sure when hurricane season is, but that might preclude the Gulf Coast. 

Or why not think big and go for Hawaii? 

468

Okay morons, Ace has officially picked the place: VEGAS.

Now, who's in?

We are: 2 from The House of Cyn.

469 #34....Dallas has some awesome tiddy bars. And nothing for the Moronettes! At least in Vegas you've got the "Thunder from Down Under" Australian Male review showl.....eh, girls? Are ya with me? Vegas would be the best bang for the buck - you can go as cheaply or extravagantly as you want to or can afford. I say this as not a big fan on Vegas....but it would make the best sense.

470

Ace, have you polled the possible guest speakers or celebs that might or might not show up if they have a preference?

471

East St. Louis? Are you high? It's a National Moron ^{(and other conservative blogger-types)} Meet, not a Road Warrior cast convention.

Carpenter filmed Escape from New York in East St. Louis because the '70s era South Bronx wasn't apocalyptic enough for his budget.

Actually, the fight scene was filmed in St. Louis (Union Station), the climatic bridge scene was a St. Louis bridge and the strip club was in Washington Park, Illinois. St. Louis just told everyone it was filmed in East St. Louis to deflect the fact that St. Louis, at the time, was a shitty city as well. And, the scene where the fith took place is now a HYatt and the lobby still has teh actual decor of the fight scene.

472 Might I again suggest that an area that has more of a conservative flavor be considered...  San Francisco is obviously out, but San Diego is historically more conservative, and is close enough to Tijuana so that the Ace O' Spades lifestyle (think donkey shows here) is still attainable on the visit...

473

See, I'm not doing that. Why is everyone else?

Is this one of those times when I'm allowed to be offensive in a response?

474 ACE,
Bet you would get a lot of the people scheduled to go on fox to come to the event.  It is a good thought and would cost less because they would already be being "put up" by fox.   Know it is not attractive to most but it is a sensible, less money lost, alternative.

475

I'd love it to get a free room but I don't think it's in the cards.

The cards are exactly where the free rooms are.

476 And there aren't any big conventions scheduled in Vegas for the weekend of April 17-18, 2010.  (April 10-11 is also pretty open, except 83,000 conventioneers are coming in for NAB April 12-15, so it's unclear how many are going to check in on Friday or Saturday before the Monday opening of the conference.)

477

Now, who's in?

Circa confirms for Vegas.

478

You just spent 5 minutes of your life that you'll never get back promoting of all places Indianapolis. Fuck NO.

Besides they're all Hoosiers there. The term is a bastardized abbreviation of the standard greeting that early residents, most of dubious parentage, used to greet each other with, as in "Who's yer momma".........

479

Guys?

Be serious.

O.K. O.K. Sorry...not trying to get on your nerves here.

480 Look, How about New York City? It's like right where I am and stuff.

Obviously it's a destination city, there are plenty of hotels... NEW YORK CITY!

See, I'm not doing that. Why is everyone else?

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2009 05:12 PM (jlvw3)

Because nothing is more fun to a moron than pissing you off, Ace, that's why!

481 464

I agree that Vegas is a great destination point and a great place for entertainment.  Too great.  If I went to Vegas I would end up still having to read AOSHQ to find out what happened at the conference. 

Posted by: polynikes at November 12, 2009 05:12 PM (m2CN7)

Just as long as you promise to liveblog whatever else it is you're doing.

482 Beck is in the Connecticut area.  Hannity is in New York.  Mark Levin is in Maryland or Virginia but would probably love to come to New York.  Coulter is in New York.  Crowley is in New York.  Kudlow is in New York,.  Don  Imus is in New York.  They might be more likely to commit if it just involves rolling out of the limo to give a speech.

483 Vegas..NOLA...don't care where -- I'm in.  Will be away from work and having fun!

484 Umm...not everyone else? I'm from Michigan. I didn't come close to suggesting it.

485

DC, for example, is a nice enough town, but I've been there twenty times, and everything closes at 9pm. (Seriously-- what up with that?)

Crime.  DC is almost a pus-encrusted as New Orleans.

486 See, I'm not doing that. Why is everyone else?

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2009 05:12 PM (jlvw3)

You honestly thought us morons wern't going to go all over the map on this?

487 Ace,

I'm willing to throw my hat in to help when you're sure about dates and venues. I can do day of stuff for the convention like registration and set up. Stuff like that. I'm very organized and detail oriented. And I'm good at setting/cleaning up since I've worked for many a PTA event when I was in school.

488 Yeah, you obviously want some place in the southwest where it's actually going to be nice in March.

Los Angeles, San Diego, or really any place in So Cal say from San Louis Obispo down. (Santa Barbara?) Arizona, New Mexico, desert-y parts of Nevada.

But, yeah, Vegas is probably the best bet. Don't care for it myself but it is cheap.

489
>> Now, who's in?

I can confirm for Vegas, barring some major unforeseen circumstance.

490

Look, How about New York City? It's like right where I am and stuff.

Obviously it's a destination city, there are plenty of hotels... NEW YORK CITY!

I'm spending tight dollars on a trip and it isn't going to be NYC.

491 My favorite posts are the ones that say very briefly "it has to be (insert hellhole here)," followed by some pathetic draw like "all you can eat blood oranges" or something.

Example:

It must be Provo, Utah.  It's full of women looking for a husband, and they don't care if you're married!

492

And by the way, Vegas sucks.  They've got this "been there, done that, now just give me your money" type of attitude, very jaded, not friendly at the casino tables...

Reno kicks ass on Vegas when it comes to hospitality and making you feel welcome.

Just sayin.

 

493 warned ya about the blood pressure - I would love to see some good old fashioned slice like a hammer bannings because goofs can't cut the "ooh ooh I know, call on me - let's try Akron" shit.  C'mon, Ace, they're just begging to get banned.  Do it, do it now.

494 Mogadishu! Warm, cheap, and the starving Somalis will fan the flies off of you for a crust of bread. Stay away from the hookers though.

495 Can't do Vegas -bu, if there is something that nees to be done, would be willing to help.

496

Crime.  DC is almost a pus-encrusted as New Orleans.

Posted by: FUBAR at November 12, 2009 05:18 PM (fstYb)

Here in Virginia we don't call it Dodge City for nothing. Just about every moderate to big city in the U.S. has its fine little tourist draws. Vegas is that combined all into one.

497 Make it easy on yourself.  Why?  Because the enormous headaches involved in planning something like this are a given.  And have it in a place where you can sell your contract if everything falls through.  And begin taking out the producers of talk radio and picking their brains aobut whatguest they are planning for around the time you are having your event.  Oh, and you have to have Frank Luntz cause he is really big right now.

498 446 Sunday afternoon at the pool at the Hard Rock is, I understand, the best meat market in the United States.

Posted by: Winston Smith at November 12, 2009 05:04 PM (MFbfZ)

Even if they were packed hip-to-hip on Open Bar Night, swimsuit-worthy girls would be about as receptive to Morons as a roomful of cactuses.

I say that as a Moron.

499 I guess the cat is out of the bag.

It's true.  Barack Obama, warlord, is coming to the Moronopalooza.

500 I love old school Vegas, especially The Golden Nugget!  That will be my only two cents. 

501 I love old school Vegas, especially The Golden Nugget!

I did the Freemont Street thing once. It was enough.

I'm not saying this has to be on The Strip but please not downtown.

502

doc at November 12, 2009 05:20 PM (lklDJ)

really?

503 Disney World? No thanks. They got a good scam going though - pay an extra fee to stand in line for the "express" line".

I thought that was Six Flags. Disney World (and Disneyland) have Fast Pass, which is free.

504

This Indianapolis shit is killing me.

I have fuck-all experience with organizing this kind of thing, but if you need help on the fiscal side, like accounting and a little backstopping, I can help there.

505 Thanks whereistherum! Now that is a welcome suggestion

506 Cruise the coast of Somalia!

"Bring your own high-powered weapons (handguns are welcome!) or rent them from our onboard Master Gunsmith. Enjoy reloading parties every afternoon with skeet and marksmanship competitions every night! We even have an indoor range for those rare days when the weather is uncooperative!"

http://bit.ly/lF3MU

507


For the money, it has to be Bangkok, Thailand.

508

Wait! 

Pierre, South Dakota! 

It's got everything.  Electricity, running water, sanitary sewage, gas stations.  Plus, it's near me!  I'll bet we could get killer deals on hotels and stuff.

Calm down, Ace, it was a joke.  Go kill a hobo or something and relax.

509 Add me to the Vegas list.

But, let me throw out another alternative - Philadelphia. Lots to do at night (old city, new casinos, and such), Liberty Bell, Independence Hall, etc.

510 Re: NYC (or any other cold-weather city)

I gotta tell you, was just in vegas having a margarita in the hot tub in November and it just felt right.

511 I have to disagree with Ace about Phoenix/Tempe/Scottsdale.  In March.  It certainly is a destination city.  Spring training, baby. 

512

Ace, you'll want to leave this up for the overnighters to chew on, but may I suggest that you re-write your post to say:

"It's Vegas, sometime in the Spring. Fin. 'Who can Help' and 'How many in your party, for estimating purposes only?'"

But, I tend to be an organizey-type person.

513 Hawaii. 
Hawaii.
Hawaii. 

514 I gotta tell you, was just in vegas having a margarita in the hot tub in November and it just felt right.

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2009 05:27 PM (jlvw3)

Anywhere in November having a margarita in a hot tub is just about right. But I get what your sayin'.

515 And by the way, Vegas sucks.  They've got this "been there, done that, now just give me your money" type of attitude, very jaded, not friendly at the casino tables...

When was the last time you were in Vegas? I was there last month, and I don't know if it's because of the economy or just because of the places we frequented, but we found the customer service was phenomenal. Everywhere we went they couldn't do enough for us.

BTW, the views from the Playboy Club shouldn't be missed. I'd love to go again, but there's a dress code, so I'm hoping there will be some Morons & Moronettes who bring some nice clothes and will want to go.

516 501 I love old school Vegas, especially The Golden Nugget!

I did the Freemont Street thing once. It was enough.

I'm not saying this has to be on The Strip but please not downtown.

Posted by: DrewM. at November 12, 2009 05:23 PM (FCWQb)

Vegas has the new hi-tech monorail, $5 bucks a pop, so anyone who feels like they have to escape the Strip to get the Fremont Street experience can do so at any time.

517 Irony Alert:

The Playboy club has a dress code.

518

I have to disagree with Ace about Phoenix/Tempe/Scottsdale.  In March.  It certainly is a destination city.  Spring training, baby. 

If you time it right, Vegas usually has some spring exhibition games in the spring. And it is usually is  the Cubs.

519

Irony Alert:

The Playboy club has a dress code.

HA! So much for making it a nudist moron event.

520 You know where a great place would be, not so much in the early spring but later...Montreal.

That is a exceptionally fun town.

I know it's not even remotely in the running, just thought it deserved a shout out.

521

I know it's not even remotely in the running, just thought it deserved a shout out.

Hell, if we are doing that, Drew--Hong Kong rawks.

522

I know it's not even remotely in the running, just thought it deserved a shout out.

Shout outs are reserved for Native Americans.

523 If people want a hardcore political conference in a cold-weather/non-destination city, there is CPAC, which actually IS in a destination city (DC)... just at a non-destination time of year (late february).

The whole point is that this will NOT be that. That there is an attraction apart from panels. That you don't have to shiver you ass off in a coat as freezing rain pelts your head.

There is absolutely no sense at all in doing what CPAC already does better. I do not wish to recreate CPAC. I could not if I wished to. But I also don't wish to.

This is the reason for my "be serious" thing. The idea is that this is fun and politics in that order (as opposed to CPAC, which is politics and fun in that order).

I do not see the point, if people are to travel, to going to some cold city when we could be sitting in a hot tub drinking margaritas. I just do not get it, and don't have any interest in that.

My conception of this is sort of a chiller, more rebel-oriented version of CPAC. No suits, no being forced to cruise the convention hall because it's 30 degrees outside and freezing rain.

Get up, go to the pool, eat breakfast, show up for some hangover-friendly-scheduled panels from 11am to 4pm, go to the mixer, start getting drunk, get very drunk by 10pm, go out and make some bad fucking decisions.

That's the idea. Without wanting to tip too much, that's the conception a major draw has, too, and he specifically does NOT want CPAC by a different name. Which is fine by me, as I didn't want that either. (Indeed, this was, for me, to be the political event I go to INSTEAD of CPAC this year, which is, if you'll forgive my selfishness, why I'm attempting to make it what I'd want.)

The point on that, too, is if we lose that idea, we lose this major draw (probably). And the people he can draw in himself as guests (probably).

So I just do not want to do this in some cold, not-terribly-exiciting workaday city. It has to have glamor, even if of the dark kind, and excitement and other stuff.

And heated pools and margaritas.

524

You know where a great place would be, not so much in the early spring but later...Montreal.

Yes and by fun I mean fun, fun.

525

403 I think it's nice that people are city-proud or whatever.

But:

I have to stress: Destination City. Indianapolis, Phoenix, San Antonio, Houston... these are not destination cities. These are just places near you.

Not even close Ace....Indianapolis is becomming ALREADY IS a hip and happening destination by itself. The downtown area alone is good as a destination by itself. The only ones who don't know are people who havn't been there and the uninformed. Seriously. (Which one are you?)  

You presumed you already know everything you need to know which is what makes my point. Indy has MORE to offer than almost any other convention destination.

If you're seriously considering hosting an event of any size, that city will show you how to make it better, cheaper, and more memorable than any other location you can look at. Sportcasters travel city to city every week for events. As them where they LIKE going and you're NOT going to hear Vegas, LA, Miami, Chicago, Atlanta, Dallas or Denver. SanFran, maybe, but you won't get people from the east coast out on the left coast. Nor will you get Californians in New York City. The distance is inconvenient.

CHECK THEM OUT. The City of Indy will make you a more convincing offer than the Sopranos could make. It's not a matter of being close for me. They're just that good at the convention gig. I know because I've had to host a few professional (healthcare) gatherings...and we found out the hard way that people DON'T come away raving about your meeting if they were disgusted with the venue or city you chose to host it.

I've done my research.

Time for you to do the same. And soliciting a few witty posts here isn't research.

526 HA! So much for making it a nudist moron event.

I didn't even know there was a danger of that happening!

527
But, I tend to be an organizey-type person.

Put me in Cyn's party. She's organized.

528

You know where a great place would be, not so much in the early spring but later...Montreal.

That is a exceptionally fun town.

I know it's not even remotely in the running, just thought it deserved a shout out.

I hear Mogadishu is nice year round, but there are too many blacks there for you people.

529

Next Indianapolis suggestion gets me to dial up the Trident launch codes.  You have been warned.

Woof.

530

Get up, go to the pool, eat breakfast, show up for some hangover-friendly-scheduled panels from 11am to 4pm, go to the mixer, start getting drunk, get very drunk by 10pm, go out and make some bad fucking decisions.

I lubz you Ace.

531

You know where a great place would be, not so much in the early spring but later...Montreal.

Yes and by fun I mean fun, fun.



Big, dirty French-Canadian fun, eh?

Seriously, that's Canada's Vegas.  With extremely hot chicks who sport french accents.

532 I was just at a convention in Vegas last month at the Rio. They definitely ARE hurting for business there. The hotel rooms were going for $45/night.

Of course, in my case they more than made up for that at the BJ table, but c'est la vie.

533 Get up, go to the pool, eat breakfast, show up for some hangover-friendly-scheduled panels from 11am to 4pm, go to the mixer, start getting drunk, get very drunk by 10pm, go out and make some bad fucking decisions.

Shouldn't all conventions be like that? The only conventions I ever went to were a PTA convention (it was horrible esp for a 13 yr old) and Ham Radio conventions (which are boring esp for a 13 yr old even though she has a ham license).

Whatever the case, I'm in and ready to help.

534 ps, I really don't want people making bad decisions. That's kind of a joke. (They make bad decisions at CPAC, too, anyway!)

I was saying that for effect.

But really: I do want to be able to have a margarita by the pool. I want to be out of the cold and in a heated pool. I want there to be something going on apart from walking around a convention space and looking at closed circuit television feeds of wonks discussing stuff.

I want there to be panels and speakers of course -- without that, it is not a conference, just strangers choosing to go to the same hotel at the same time -- but I want there to be more than that.

Specifically 1) the pool and 2) the margaritas.

And nothing scheduled before 11am. We are going to build the assumption of a late night right into the schedule. If you're an early riser: Go to the aquarium at Mandalay Bay.

535

The point on that, too, is if we lose that idea, we lose this major draw (probably). And the people he can draw in himself as guests (probably).

Is this major draw Wayne Newton? IS that why your pushing Vegas?

 

Also, do we have a ball park date. I mean like a ball park month. I will need at least 2 months notice to schedule accordingly.

536

#149 Bumperstickerche - I LOL'd - so fucking funny!  That was floating around here a of couple years ago and it was funny then too.  Thanks for bringing it back.

Ace - Vegas it should be.  Now, if you are thinking of relocating there, maybe, eventually, absolutely.  Property was, the last I looked, dirt cheap.  Love San Diego, son lives there while I'm stuck in Michigan, but Vegas is probably your best shot. So many fun things to do there, legal and not.  

537

Of course, in my case they more than made up for that at the BJ table

They have those now?

538 That's the idea. Without wanting to tip too much, that's the conception a major draw has, too, and--> he <--specifically does NOT want CPAC by a different name.

HAHA! You've given up gender now!

539 Of course, in my case they more than made up for that at the BJ table, but c'est la vie. Posted by: swanzoid

There's going to be a BJ table?!!!   ALRIGHT!!!! :

540 Z Ryan you're killing me with the Outback gag. I've been giggling through this whole thread.

541 Mr. Spades,

I find your conception of what a political action convention should be intriguing and would like to request a press credential.

542

Get up, go to the pool, eat breakfast, show up for some hangover-friendly-scheduled panels from 11am to 4pm, go to the mixer, start getting drunk, get very drunk by 10pm, go out and make some bad fucking decisions.

I'm good to go for everything but that 11am to 4pm thingy as a result of that bad fucking decisions thingy.

543 What are some things that a legal in Vegas and not legal elsewhere. Not that i am allowed to do anything of those things, i am just unfamiliar with the laws there.

544 If it's not a big city like Vegas or New Orleans, it would be a pure resort area like Key West or Colorado Springs.

In no conceivable reality will it be a secondary city with "good bars and music."

545 Posted by: DrewM. at November 12, 2009 05:32 PM (FCWQb)

Actually it's he best damn city in the world. It's like a combination of Paris and New York except it's clean with nice people.  But Montreal is only good in the summer.

546 I love the LA area. It's beautiful, mostly, and has a lot to do. Plus there are some conservative stars who might attend.

547 Trying to picture myself leaving the pool and some frosty Cosmopolitans to get dressed in respectable clothing to go attend a panel ... This could be a problem.

Any chance of getting the panels down to the pool? Guess not.

548 539 Of course, in my case they more than made up for that at the BJ table, but c'est la vie. Posted by: swanzoid

There's going to be a BJ table?!!!   ALRIGHT!!!! :   Monica Lewinsky ought to be affordable these days.

549

There's going to be a BJ table?!!!   ALRIGHT!!!! :

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDD...

Scene.

550

ace, you have moronaparooza in Pyongyang. You bring own food, arcohor and rady friends and you have vetty vetty good time in our wonderfur city. Make sure bring generator because rights out after 9.p.m.

I promise I ret you reave afterward for one mirron dorrar or one basketbarr autographed by Shaquirre O'near.

551

ps, I really don't want people making bad decisions. That's kind of a joke.

That you had to explain that it was a joke saddens me. Have a swig of my Absolut water lemon; you need to loosen up! Oh, and I promise that there's very little backwash. Even if there is, the lemon is like an anticeptic.

552

Ace I spelled the family's name wrong.  It's the Gaughan family that owns SouthCoast.

I woke up on the bathroom floor of a room at the SunCoast in '98 after a big NFR party.  Did the walk of shame through the casino at 4 a.m. to catch a cab back to the Bellagio.  Amazing, at 4 a.m. the casinos are just as busy as at 4 pm.  My first and only trip to (until moron meetup) to Vegas.  It was awesome, although I couldn't keep solid food down for a couple of weeks.

553 Trying to picture myself leaving the pool and some frosty Cosmopolitans to get dressed in respectable clothing to go attend a panel ... This could be a problem.

I'm betting if we just tossed on a sarong over our bikinis that would be fine enough to go to the panels.

554

I think it unwise that all the Morons gather together.  I fear something might accidentally happen to the whole lot of you. 

And if the government doesnt conspire to silence you, then I am quite positive many of you will end up in jail as a result of too much Value-rite, hobo hunting, and general debauchery.  I picture Ace and his crew joining in the newly revamped Treasure Island Pirate show without consent of management. 

Anyhow it becomes a win win situation for Obama.  You are playing right into the lefts plan. 

555 I'm betting if we just tossed on a sarong over our bikinis that would be fine enough to go to the panels.

Yeah, like anyone's going to throw out a scantily-clad moronette.  Other than me.  You'll thank me for staying dressed.

556

Trying to picture myself leaving the pool and some frosty Cosmopolitans to get dressed in respectable clothing to go attend a panel ... This could be a problem.

Any chance of getting the panels down to the pool? Guess not.

This would be what would separate us from the Kostards--we would actually have fun.  And could pull of the diffculty factor of well-dressed and drunk.

I say we do this, not becasue it is easy, but because it is hard.

557 I'm betting if we just tossed on a sarong over our bikinis that would be fine enough to go to the panels.

Rum, I would love that, but alas, I think that's too much to hope for. Probably wouldn't want me bringing my cocktail to the panel either ...

558 Posted by: California Red at November 12, 2009 05:45 PM (7uWb

Little known fact...like the government during the State of the Union, one person with a password to the blog has to stay away from events like this in case of catastrophe.

I'm not saying who that person will be in this case but should something happen, expect a significant uptick in epic poetry around here.

559

Z Ryan you're killing me with the Outback gag. I've been giggling through this whole thread.

Sure, everyone gets the Outback Steakhouse joke - but a couple of people thought the East St. Louis thing was serious. Shhheeezzzz

560

ps, I really don't want people making bad decisions. That's kind of a joke.

is that alcohol/drug and sex related or do you mean you don't want any fatalities?

561
Trying to picture myself leaving the pool and some frosty Cosmopolitans to get dressed in respectable clothing to go attend a panel ... This could be a problem.

Posted by: Smurfette at November 12, 2009 05:43 PM (D5pp0)



Me too, keep going.

562 I picture Ace and his crew joining in the newly revamped Treasure Island Pirate show without consent of management.

Ok, this made me laugh way too hard. I gotta go pee now.

563

I gotta tell you, was just in vegas having a margarita in the hot tub in November and it just felt right.  amateur-we do that 24/7/365 here in waikiki

i'm there if its vegas, but a question, if i bring my 8yo, will there be stuff for the kids to do?

564 is that alcohol/drug and sex related or do you mean you don't want any fatalities?

I promise to bring my own bail money.

565

I'm not saying who that person will be in this case but should something happen, expect a significant uptick in epic poetry around here.

NOOOOOOOO!!!

566

i think the daily kos had the netroots 2009 convention in pittsburgh this year.

shits basically free here, but definately not a destination city.

567 Navy Cop_

It depends.  Does he like gladiator movies?

568

ps, I really don't want people making bad decisions. That's kind of a joke.

Yea, you say that now --- where the hell were you when i got married?

569 We have to save up our own bail money? Crap.

570
I think it unwise that all the Morons gather together.  I fear something might accidentally happen to the whole lot of you. 




Me too. Everyone duck if I start shooting.


I keed, I keed.

571

#563

 

You'd be amazed how much stuff there is for kids to do. My sis took hers last year (boys, 10 and 12) and they had a ball.  I actually found it kind of disturbing how many kids were in Vegas when I was there.

572 Vegas, New Orleans or Scottsdale and I'm there. All three are favorites.

573 Any chance of the Notorius PAB being there?

574

I vote for macon Georgia it has a IHOP and several hotels for accomodation.

 

575

I picture Ace and his crew joining in the newly revamped Treasure Island Pirate show without consent of management.

SUMMON THE KRAKEN!!!

576 the other coyote,

It used to be there were rollercoasters and midway games to win prizes. When I was a kid, my parents used to take us to Vegas every winter for CES. One parent would take us kids to play all the midway games to win stuffed animals and the like. Then it became less child friendly and they started taking the games out. And the gangs started prowling around Circus Circus, making it decidedly less safe and family friendly.

It's been 10 years since I've been to Vegas, which is why I'm so in for this, but I've heard lots of good things.

577 i'm there if its vegas, but a question, if i bring my 8yo, will there be stuff for the kids to do?

There's a lot for the kids to do and see: Ride the NY NY coaster, the aquarium at Mandalay Bay, take a ride up the Eiffel Tower, visit the castle-themed Excalibur, dolphin show at the mirage, the M&M Store. The problem would be what would you do with your child while you attend the panels and at night while you're out carousing? I wouldn't recommend taking a child outdoors on the strip at night. All the big hotels have babysitting services, I guess.

578
>> i'm there if its vegas, but a question, if i bring my 8yo, will there be stuff for the kids to do?

I would say no.  Vegas is not a place for kids, both in the sense that there is some stuff that could be inappropriate for them, and in the sense that they will be bored senseless.

I have seen people bring their kids there, though, so I guess it isn't out of the question.  Really the only place on the strip that has any attractions for kids is the Excalibur.  When walking through there, you often see a lot of families.  Which means that most adults w/o kids try to stay out of there.  Which means it is a boring casino.

And I can't imagine that there is anywhere you could let your 8 y/o wander around on his own.  So basically you would be escorting your kid around everywhere, and most (all?) casino floors don't want kids hanging around.  Kids can walk through, but if you sit down at a table and your kid is with you, they will tell you to move on.

579 Though I'd love it to be NOLA for sentimental reasons (native hometown) or San Antonio for self-serving ones (& as a property owner I'd benefit from the extra H&M taxes you'd bring in to both places ), I nonetheless definitely recommend Vegas if you want a high turnout. Until recently & for about 8 years I worked on planning an annual conference catering to attendees spread out nationwide. Over the years, we've gone to virtually all of the tourist/meeting towns suggested here so far, and they were all great, but for whatever reason Vegas just blew the others out of the water in attendance. We more than doubled it that year & haven't come close since. I can't explain it but LV definitely draws the conferees (& I suspect their spouses) cross-country, even though they probably wouldn't admit in advance they'd prefer it over more, shall we say, genteel destinations like Charleston or more culturally exotic ones like NO. I'm realizing only now that Ace's instincts are probably on the money with this - our participants' decisions to come that year in record numbers must have simply come down to the very barest basics: convenient access, low airfare, dirt-cheap buffets & supersized margaritas. Who knew?

580 Polynikes, no, not really.  Lighten up, Francis.

581

thank you all

me, i'm going but depending on my girl's school and wife's job will depend if they go

me, i don't have a real job and my wife will just say something like 'what happens in vegas will get you shot back in hawaii'

582

I vote for macon Georgia it has a IHOP and several hotels for accomodation.

 It also has a nice dog track.

583 Mmm. Margaritas.

584

I'm betting if we just tossed on a sarong over our bikinis that would be fine enough to go to the panels.   Posted by: wherestherum at November 12, 2009 05:44 PM (GZnia)

 

I don't have a problem with that.

585 24hr bass fishing.

586 Vegas got known for a family-friendly push about 15 years ago. They really began building up kid-friendly and family-friendly activities to attract parents with children.

As people said: Rollercoasters, aquariums, etc. There is no getting around the fact that Vegas is firmly adult-oriented, but there should be enough stuff that the kids don't squawk too much.

And you know: Of course there is mini-golf and all that stuff.

587 oh, and will there be security to keep the moronettes off my 6'5 270lb muscular drop dead sexy body?

588 oh, and will there be security to keep the moronettes off my 6'5 270lb muscular drop dead sexy body?

Doubtful. I suggest you bring your wife to run interference.

589

Macon is well knowned for its poultry as well

eating and raising them chickens or as we say raise them to eat them  they taste great you know they do

 

 

590

Get up, go to the pool, eat breakfast, show up for some hangover-friendly-scheduled panels from 11am to 4pm, go to the mixer, start getting drunk, get very drunk by 10pm, go out and make some bad fucking decisions.

Sounds like football season at my house. No panels though, unless you call shootin the shit with the neighbors while pretending to do yardwork a panel. Jacuzzi and margaritas (unless we decide to skip all that frilly stuff and just shoot tequila) included. Vegas - just like home but I don't have to do the dishes.

591

#283

>>>>>>Are we organizing for 2010? For that I will take off work and spend my own money to attend.

>>>No, we're not. I don't even know what this means. How do you "organize" with people from all over the country? Races are local, not national.

 

When the Republicans took the House from the Democrats in 1994, it was because they successfully nationalized the congressional elections.  We can do that in 2010.  I guess the question is whether or not you want to bitch and moan about Obama ruining America or if you actually want to do the nitty gritty dirty job of stopping him.  He can be stopped in 2010 by taking the House from the Democrats.   

 

300 people from all over the country, many writing blogs and all pretty motivated conservatives.  I’d rather organize these 300 than trust the RNC to do the job in 2010.  100 races, 50 seats. 

 

There is nothing wrong with being realistic, but you can’t possibly win if you don’t plan to win.

 

592 oh, and will there be security to keep the moronettes off my 6'5 270lb muscular drop dead sexy body?


I'm thinking Provo Utah would be good for you.

593 588  damn, now i just have to rent a  6'5 270lb muscular drop dead sexy body and i'm good to go

594

Late to the party, but answering as a Texas who lived in Dallas for 20 years, no.  There ain't shit to do there except eat and drink.  SA marginally better but I wouldn't choose it either. Riverwalk, eh. Restaurants and shopping. Nah.

I'm not really a Vegas guy but this is an easy choice. I'm more than happy to go to Vegas.

595

Get up, go to the pool, eat breakfast, show up for some hangover-friendly-scheduled panels from 11am to 4pm, go to the mixer, start getting drunk, get very drunk by 10pm, go out and make some bad fucking decisions.

ha, sounds like my entire navy career

never been to vegas before so this should be a blast

596

Texas guy I mean. Or Texan.

anyway..

597 Will there be games and events like "Guess How Many Pickles are in Shep Smith's Ass" or the Hobo Toss or Wheel of Bacon?

598 563 NavyJoeCop - looks like it's CircusCircus for you. Have fun.

599 Will there be games and events like "Guess How Many Pickles are in Shep Smith's Ass" or the Hobo Toss or Wheel of Bacon?

I will organize and participate in the Moronette Wet T-Shirt Contest.

600 597  LOL

601 >>There is nothing wrong with being realistic, but you can’t possibly win if you don’t plan to win.

Well, I am telling you, that is not going to happen, so if that is your criterion, you should go somewhere else.

I'm not being a dick: I'm just trying to save you spending money on something you don't want.

FWIW I don't think what you're talking about is realistic in any event, but it is impossible where there is not even a drive/organizing motive force to make it happen at all. There will not be that drive or organizing motive force here. This is not an attempt to start a rebellion. There may be ad copy suggesting that, but it will be a joke and a catchphrase, not a reality.

602 You're a D-cup right, Rum?

I fold.

603 I mean NavyCopJoe. I haven't even started drinking yet.

604 This is not an attempt to start a rebellion. There may be ad copy suggesting that, but it will be a joke and a catchphrase, not a reality.


The "Fuck 'Em" Forum?

605 I would say if you have that in mind this conference will not be political enough for you, and you should skip.

Again, I would suggest CPAC. We are not attempting to reinvent what CPAC already does so well. There is no point having CPAC-2 two months after CPAC. This is different. I said "more chill" and I do mean that.

The sort of thing you seem to want actually is closer to CPAC, so you should do that.

606

Phoenix/Scottsdale/Tempe has these places:

http://tinyurl.com/4k2url

http://tinyurl.com/ydoycbm

Otherwise, Vegas, which has all sorts of places.  It would be fun to mess with Harry Reid's turf.  As long as it's someplace nice, where no one without a Brooks Bros. shirt can get in.

607
Vegas got known for a family-friendly push about 15 years ago.

They undid that about 5 years ago, at least according to the chatty cabbie I talked to. Decided that family-friendly Vegas was not as efficient at extracting money from wallets. Still, there's plenty to do.

608  I will organize and participate in the Moronette Wet T-Shirt Contest.

Posted by: wherestherum at November 12, 2009 06:07 PM (GZnia)

I volunteer to be official water thrower. Cold, cold water thrower. Its the least I can do

609 The sort of thing you seem to want actually is closer to CPAC, so you should do that.

Good, I prefer more of a MPAC thing -- Morons Party and Chill.

610

"Will there be games and events like "Guess How Many Pickles are in Shep Smith's Ass" or the Hobo Toss or Wheel of Bacon?"

What? No cornhole?

611

Good, I prefer more of a MPAC thing -- Morons Party and Chill.

Posted by: Smurfette at November 12, 2009 06:13 PM (D5pp0)

+100

612 There's going to be a BJ table?!!!   ALRIGHT!!!! :


I hear that the MGM Grand has a thriving fruit-bat breeding program...

613 Seems Vegas is the most logical if you're looking for 'bang for the buck' as well weather, accessibility, etc. 

614 Agreed on Vegas.  My favorite place to spend three days, and my least-favorite place to spend five days (you Vegas veterans know what I mean).

And I can pay for my weekend by taking moron-money at the poker tables!

615 See, we are not on that list that means....

We're still in the running, baby!

Posted by: East St. Louis, Illinois (future home of Aceapalozza) at November 12, 2009 04:54 PM

-----------------------

East St. Louis ... toodle ooo

616 Vegas: Yes.

New Orleans: Not so much.

Posted by: geoff at November 12, 2009 04:52 PM

(Emphasis added.)

 

617
>> They undid that about 5 years ago, at least according to the chatty cabbie I talked to. Decided that family-friendly Vegas was not as efficient at extracting money from wallets. Still, there's plenty to do

That's correct.  Vegas doesn't want kids there, because then people might act responsible.  So they don't provide a lot for the kids.  I go to Vegas pretty often... trust me, if you can avoid taking kids, do so.  There are only a couple places where kids are even welcome.  And kids can only ride a roller coaster so many times before getting bored with it.

618 First of all, to all of the Indianapolis Haters... FUCK YOU.  Indy is a great place.  I love being from Indiana and loved working in downtown Indy before going to Grad School.  There really is a lot of good shit both downtown and in Broad Ripple.

That being said, to all the people that keep recommending Indy.... DOUBLE FUCK YOU.  I sure as shit don't want to be in Indy for the early Spring.  I want to go somewhere warm.  If we were talking about May, early summer, or autumn I would say that Indy would be cool.  Especially when the leaves are turning and all that good shit.

I want to go someplace warm.  Where I can pass out and not freeze to death.

Ace, I hope that Vegas ends up being great.  I definitely want to go if I can.  I hope you also keep New Orleans in mind for 2011.  That could be a great destination for Year 2.

619

Indy is famous for the nice locals.

620 Smurfette,

Oh, heck, no. I'm a B-cup, but a generous one. Some of the other moronettes are way more endowed than I am.

621 Used to do a trade show every year in Vegas, big turnout from the industry. About 2-3 years ago, they switched to Palm Springs. Thankfully, I'd already opted out that year, because from what I heard, turnout was brutal, like 25% of the Vegas numbers.

Vegas is a convention town for a reason.

622 A swimming pool! Great, I never miss a chance to show off my open heart surgery zipper, my rotater cuff repair scar from when that idiot ran over me when I was running, and the scar from my achilles tear surgery. At 6 feet and 170 pounds, my wife says I look like Frankenstein on a starvation diet.

623 posted by: geoff at November 12, 2009 04:52 PM

(Emphasis added.)

Is that a problem?

624 Just how generous are you with your B-cups? ba-dum-dum

625 Oh, heck, no. I'm a B-cup, but a generous one. Some of the other moronettes are way more endowed than I am.


I love that you ladies talk about stuff like this.  Please, continue.

626 Just how generous are you with your B-cups?

Depends. What are you offering?

627 As long as it's someplace nice, where no one without a Brooks Bros. shirt can get in.

You mean the hotel? I can't think of any hotels in Vegas like that.

The first time I went to Vegas I was pretty disappointed to see how people dressed in the casinos. Stupid me, I pictured all the guys looking like James Bond in black tie with elegant ladies hanging on them at the baccarat table. I'm embarrassed to admit how many slinky evening gowns I packed and never wore.

Instead you see mostly the typical American warm-weather tourist fashion: men in loud Hawaiian shirts and ladies in khaki shorts and sandals. And this is at the Bellagio.

My consolation was that on my last day there I looked up from the craps table to see Robert Wagner standing nearby, dressed in a crisp white shirt, tie, and navy blazer.

628  I will organize and participate in the Moronette Wet T-Shirt Contest.

Posted by: wherestherum at November 12, 2009 06:07 PM (GZnia)

I volunteer to be official water thrower. Cold, cold water thrower. Its the least I can do

I volunteer to be the t-shirt

629 OK, so the basic idea is liquor, politics, liquor, fun, liquor, big name politics, and liquor.  Plus bad decisions?

In Vegas?  I've never been to Vegas.

Let me check the old budget......

630

 

>>>FWIW I don't think what you're talking about is realistic in any event, but it is impossible where there is not even a drive/organizing motive force to make it happen at all. There will not be that drive or organizing motive force here. This is not an attempt to start a rebellion. There may be ad copy suggesting that, but it will be a joke and a catchphrase, not a reality.

 

I don't want to start a rebellion, I just want to take the House from Nancy, and I think the Tea Party Movement can be that driving / motivating force.  Of course this is your meetup, and if you think it's the wrong venue it is.   The reality is that I am frustrated and I don’t know where to turn.  I'm not an alarmist but I am worried about our future and I am afraid that if we don’t stop them in 2010 they will destroy our economy and ultimately our political system.  

 

CPAC?  I would assume they are tighter-assed than even the HA people.  

 

631 Sure, everyone gets the Outback Steakhouse joke - but a couple of people thought the East St. Louis thing was serious. Shhheeezzzz

I sure didn't, your posts were very giggle-worthy. The hubs and I took a trip to Tennessee  last month and stopped to see the Arch on the way.

Unfortunately there was a road closure and hubby took the wrong exit and we ended up taking the "scenic" route through lovely East St. Louis.

It was like Gary without the charm.

632 Hey if we met at the Mandalay Bay, we could call it the Bay-Con.

633 I'm not much of a gambler, but I do love watching the craps table.

634 In the lore that generations next will write, Vegas wil, of course, be epic.  But other places can get their time in the sun in years to come.  Vegas good.

(The wife just told me I can't come.  _{Without her}.)

635 Why has no one mentioned Gary Indiana?

636 Oh, heck, no. I'm a B-cup, but a generous one. Some of the other moronettes are way more endowed than I am.

Wow, I'm brain-dead today, Rum, sorry. I totally forgot you're Chinese. We Asians and hapas are usually more modestly endowed. And perky! (I mean personality, of course.)

637 Wow, I'm brain-dead today, Rum, sorry. I totally forgot you're Chinese. We Asians and hapas are usually more modestly endowed. And perky! (I mean personality, of course.)

But we make up for it in other things.

638 Agreed on Vegas.  My favorite place to spend three days, and my least-favorite place to spend five days (you Vegas veterans know what I mean).

Heh.

Ideal Vegas trip...arrive Thursday evening/Midday Friday, leave around 3 Sunday.

Anything more is at your own peril.

639

 

626 Just how generous are you with your B-cups?

Depends. What are you offering?

Posted by: wherestherum at November 12, 2009 06:24 PM

I know where the rum is.

 Now my husband is reading over my shoulder and wants to know when this meetup is.

640 We definitely need a beer pong tournament.

641 EVANSAYET! _{EVAN SAYET!} ^{EVAN SAYET!} _{EVAN SAYET!} EVANSAYET!

642 "Here's an idea: Fuck NPPC. If you came to New Orleans and had a shitty time, you couldn't organize a fuckup in a whorehouse with a fistful of Benjamins.

I'm cool with Vegas, but fuck your smarmy condescending shit. Ace is talking about organizing a good time and all you offer is gripes. Bet you're the life of the fucking party at whatever gleaming beacon of entertainment you call home. Posted by: Empire of Jeff"

Good lord, you're such a douche about this.  If you can't take the tone of argument, go to a softer, gentler place.  New Orleans is not going to attract as many people, because it's not a very fun place to visit.

You're just pissed at me because I made you look like an idiot when you were bashing US Soldiers.  You're a loser.  We are differently situated as to how much time we have to argue on the internet, but I knew as soon as I made a comment, you would instantly be there to have a hissy fit.  Even though you agree with my point that Vegas is better, you act like I'm killed your mom or something.  Grow up... it's not like you're coming anyway.  If you are, I look forward to putting you in your place.

643 Just remember that what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.


Except Herpes.

644 Why has no one mentioned Gary Indiana?

Oh, but klaatu did, somewhere upthread.

We'll have to ask Z Ryan about the Gary/Outback Steakhouse situation before we make any rash decisions though.

645 I just checked Las Vegas' climate graph.  Do you guys realize the high is only 70 and the lows are in the mid-40s in March? 

646 How bout Muscle Shoals, Al. Home of the swampers. Just kidding, Vegas for me.

647 We've got an 'official' beer pong table here at Chez Cindy's Backyard Resort (in beautiful San Diego). Can load that baby in the truck and bring it along. Do you think they would let us set it up?

648 I thought Ace said April. It's high 70s in April.

649

Why has no one mentioned Gary Indiana?

Oh, but klaatu did, somewhere upthread.

We'll have to ask Z Ryan about the Gary/Outback Steakhouse situation before we make any rash decisions though.

I can't be seen near the Gary Works

650 How bout Muscle Shoals, Al. Home of the swampers. Just kidding, Vegas for me.

I have a soft spot in my heart for misspelled places.

651 647 We've got an 'official' beer pong table here at Chez Cindy's Backyard Resort (in beautiful San Diego). Can load that baby in the truck and bring it along. Do you think they would let us set it up?

In Vegas? Probably. By the pool would be cool.

652
We've got an 'official' beer pong table here at Chez Cindy's Backyard Resort (in beautiful San Diego). Can load that baby in the truck and bring it along. Do you think they would let us set it up?

Posted by: Cindy in San Diego at November 12, 2009 06:38 PM (G/rFS)

The last time I played beer-pong coincidentally enough, was also the first time I discovered projectile vomiting.

Good times, good times.

653 Just a warning though - we had some guests who thought it would be fun to play tequila pong. Big mistake. Big gross mistake.

654 Just how much do you like heated pools and margaritas, Ace?
;-)

Once you get your speakers lined up, you'll need to get in touch with me re: drafting press releases etc... (if you still would like my help, that is). The press release materials take time, mainly because they need to be re-worked until you (and the speakers) are completely satisfied. Lots of back and forth on that.

Oh and to all the people who have been blasting New Orleans -home of voo-doo queen Marie Laveau, home of the best damn muffelatta and the best beignet in the world - I say screw you one and all.

655 Whiskey Pong is pretty awesome, though.  This conference going to be in Tennessee?

656 648 I thought Ace said April

Not that I saw.  Ace referred to Spring.  Morons brought up March and April. 

657 I don't mean to imply that I'm upset about this... many partisanish comment sections have someone who tries to be the dominant wierdo.

Dave was being a prude about some soldier's personal mistakes, saying he wasn't worthy of the military.  I disagreed, but I don't really mind him having a different view.  He had a hueg problem with me having a different view.

Kinda like now... he's flipped from prude to 'you don't like New Orleans because you're smarmy'.  but his real point is that he's not mentally tough.  If someone disagrees with him, it's a vendetta.  I know there will always be people like that... I don't have time to leave hundreds of comments on this blog, though I like to do so when I have a chance.  I could tell by the way Dave blustered that he would leap to attack me as soon as I came back (it was like a week later, but only took him a few SECONDS). 

but most of us agree: Vegas is a lot more fun than New Orleans.  I'm Houstonian, and have been to New Orleans many times... there's a reason it doesn't attract a huge crowd.  Anything you can do there, you can do in most cities of size.  I realize I don't need to explain myself... many people in this thread have made my point much more eloquently than I have.

Dave: it's the internet.  It's not nearly as important as you think.  You are on it too much.  Get a life, instead of freaking out, and you'll be happier.  I've disagreed with many people on here, over the years, and you don't see me hating any of them.  The arguments are a big part of the fun, in fact.  So you hated that soldier, and I loved him for being a dogface jackass who is bettering himself.  I can't believe you seriously are this wounded over that.

Oh, and New Orleans really, really does suck.  It really does smell like urine, too.  Sure, you can have fun there if you try.  Same applies to most places.  Let's find a place that more people want to go to... like Vegas or San Diego.  Both of which were not my first choice of Austin, but I understand why Austin ain't gonna be.

658

What, no Bong pong ? Count me out.

659

It was like Gary without the charm

But with twice the hookers and blow!

And, did we mention, we bought a banner!

660 I don't know where you're hanging out in New Orleans, Nobel Peace Prize - but that has NEVER been my experience visiting there, and I've been there a lot. No smells, no incessant vomit in streets (exception Mardi Gras), and no major piss. And if that's all you see when you go there, than you haven't experienced the cultural side to the city. I actually pity you.

661 How many jobs will be created or saved with this moronpalooza?  And, can we apply for stimulus funding? 

662 New Orleans can get a little funky in the summer. Spring or during Mardi Gras would be cool.

663
All right, enough with the whining about places that don't matter anymore. Time to start looking forward to the place that does.

Which hotel?

664

So, in summary, this is what we have learned today:

1. It will be Vegas;

2. Zryan is the world's most renowned experts on Outback Steakhouse;

3) Wherestherum is a b cup (but a generous B cup);

4) This will not be CPAC

5) Ace will not start any event before 11:00 a.m.

6) Beer pong - good, whiskey pong - better, tequilla pong - eh, not so much

Did I miss anything?

 

665

 

I'd like to suggest Gary Indiana as a fine place to hold your rightwing hatefest.

 

 

666 >>>
I don't want to start a rebellion, I just want to take the House from Nancy, and I think the Tea Party Movement can be that driving / motivating force. Of course this is your meetup, and if you think it's the wrong venue it is. The reality is that I am frustrated and I don’t know where to turn. I'm not an alarmist but I am worried about our future and I am afraid that if we don’t stop them in 2010 they will destroy our economy and ultimately our political system.


I want that too, but I'm not spending a ton of money on a big trip to spend most of my time being angry and working diligently for a political outcome.

I'm personally going to wind up working to set up the conferences and stuff and after I'm done with that I am definitely not going to use my downtime in a bar talking with someone about how angry I am.

Others might want to, I will personally not.

That is why I suggest cpac. CPAC is politics-politics-politics. This is going to be politics-margaritas-lounge music.

The emphasis is going to be different and why I can't say that you won't enjoy it, I am telling you that it is not my intention to make this some kind of Alinksyesque "Workshop to Take Back Power."

It's going to be a conventional political convention, minus some of the political intensity.

I am determined that, unlike CPAC, which again is a "working weekend," this is going to be more weekend, less working. So it may not be your thing.

667

Hotel?

The Austin Arms, of course!

 

/jk

668 "...can we apply for stimulus funding?"

Worth looking into, just mention "jobs saved" and the Dems will fall all over themselves handing out cash.  Look what they did in Detroit. 

669 Las Vegas needs visitors. A lot of people down here are praying for work.

670 Just give this Moron a time and a place and he'll see if he can bring the Hobo-Splicer 9000.

671

"1. Part of the idea here is that it should be a destination city that people would like to go to even if there weren't a conference going on. "

Inn of the Mountain Gods Mescalero, New Mexico

http://tinyurl.com/2mndn9

672 3rd times a charm Ace.

673 oh, actually, about an Alinskyesque "Workshop to Take Back Power" --

Actually that sounds like a good panel subject to me.

What I'm trying to say is that when the "workday" ends, it ends. at least for me. The "workday" of the panels will end, and then I intend to be social, and not worry so much about the future of the Republic.

And that's what I mean about there's not going to be some motive force about organizing going on. There are going to be panels; there is then going to be social stuff. But it's not going to be 16 hours a day of brainstorming about how to take back power.

If that's what some are interested in, fine, but there's not going to be organization for that. The organization after the panels is going to be wholly R-and-R related.

674 The first time I was in Las Vegas I was sitting at Binion's (having just finished a poker tournament there, which was worth the time... and the smell... simply because I got to sit at the ole' "final table" and that was pretty neat).

And I was just messing around at one of the tables and suddenly this guy runs SCREAMING across the room. I mean, literally batshit crazy screaming... in his boxer shorts. Trailing behind him is the security guard (the guy had thrown his pants in the guard's face, to temporarily distract him I guess). Finally they throw him out.

I turn to the dealer and go "well, that's weird."

The dealer goes "nah, that guy does stuff like that all the time."

And I go "what? Why doesn't the casino ban him?"

Dealer: "We can't, he's one of our best customers."

So yes, I'd say Vegas is a go.

675

Well, let me know if you want somebody who is staying home to throw up a few posts a day on whatever is current news.

As opposed to people at the event who will be throwing up other things.

676 I know I joked about not being able to tear myself away from the pool -- and that's still a very real danger -- but as you get further along, I'll be interested to hear more about the subjects and format of the panels.

677 Now that ace has settled on Vegas / Southern Florida /Catalina Island/ We should use our hive-mind to help create events and panels to fill out the dance card:

Voyage of the Banned: Overcoming Stigma of Being Banned by an Ewok

Memes! Memes! Memes!

PostSLAM!
(Panel reads selected comments from a thread and the audience cheers or boos the commentor.) First Prize, Ten Thousand Pennies, Second Prize, a set of steak knives, Third Prize - a dance with Wicked Pinto.

MenckenFest - Spit on Your Hands, Hoist the Black Flag

Official AoS Cocktail: The Black Flag

-

678
That is why I suggest cpac. CPAC is politics-politics-politics. This is going to be politics-margaritas-lounge music balcony pool jumping..
Posted by: ace at November 12, 2009 07:02 PM (jlvw3)



FIFY ace.

679 CPAC's schedule literally goes 8am in the morning to 9pm at night (the big dinner of the day is at like 7, and has several speakers during it).

For purely logistical reasons (we cannot have that many speakers, because speakers usually want comped airfare and hotels, and if we only have 100 or 200 people, obviously we will not have that much money to fly in people for free), we are simply not going to be able to match CPAC's 12 hour a day schedule.

680 I'll be in Austin April 9-11 for the annual Lone Star Roundup hot rod orgy on South Congress. If this "Hmmm..." thing coincides, I'll drive by and lay a monster burnout for y'all.

681 Call it ACECON or ACECONF.

Stephen Kruiser is the perfect comedian for this shindig!

682 Havana, we take down the Castro REgime and establish the Hmmmmm REpublic

683 am looking forward to sneaking away to cover the National District Attorneys Convention and the fabulous Mint 400

684 Some of the panels should be fun-oriented too. I would go to a panel discussion on how much funnier the rightosphere is that the nags on the left. I guess technically you would have to title it, "The State of the Funny in Modern Politics" or something.

685

>we are simply not going to be able to match CPAC's 12 hour a day schedule.
Posted by: ace at November 12, 2009 07:17 PM (jlvw3)

but we can party like dogs 24/7
we will definitely make an impact

 

OUR MOTTO: we're ,we're hammered, now kindly get bent

686

Has the betting started on who will end up married to whom?

687 I used to travel to Phoenix quite a bit on business.  I never had any problems finding a room during spring training.  Spring training tends to be in the towns around Phoenix, like Mesa, etc.

688

our motto: we're here, we're hammered, now kindly get bent

 

_{sorry- a bit hammered}

689 683, agreed.

690 Maybe a panel on the FCC and colloquial pseudo curse words. You could call it, "Cleveland Steaming: How to be Subversive in an Era of Intertube Censorship."

691 -

Con-Con?

TBagThisCon?

WouldYa FuckaDucka Con?

DoDecaHedraCon?

PimpHandCon?

ItDoesn't Matter WhatWe CallThis
Convention, You'llCall ItRacist Con?

692 I'm still all for Vegas, even if I happen to live in a neighbor-state - it's a good destination.  I'd rather visit a city with things to do outside of the event like Vegas (shows, gambling) or SD/Coronado (surfing, zoo) than business places (Texas, DC).

If this thing needs volunteers to help run it, I'd sign up. 

693 663
All right, enough with the whining about places that don't matter anymore. Time to start looking forward to the place that does.
Which hotel?
Posted by: geoff at November 12, 2009 06:59 PM (nviaj)

This is a good question.  If I may be so bold, I would recommend the Mirage (or a hotel in that specific area).  My point is location rather than venue itself (although the Mirage is a nice hotel). 

It is the best location, near Treasure Island, the Wynn, the Venetian, Caesar's Palace, the Bellagio, Harrahs and fairly close to Paris, Planet Hollywood and Bally's.  Plus there are a couple of other casinos right nearby that are kind of on the crappier side (like the Flamingo) but are still okay. 

It is a bit farther from some nice places like Hard Rock and Mandalay Bay, but those casinos aren't really near any decent ones.  I've been to Vegas a lot, and it is smart to think in terms of "location, location, location."  Even though they have the monorail and cabs and stuff, you mostly end up just walking around in a drunken stupor; and it is nice not having to worry about transportation at all.

694 BumperStickerist = winner of the name contest lmao,because you know no matter what we will be racist .

695

The San Antonio river walk.

1) Gorgeous in the spring with great weather

2) Alamo es muy patriotico and just a couple of blocks away

3) Lots of military in the city. Not that many years ago, it was essentially a military town.

4) Real Mexican food

5) More martinis than you could possibly drink

6) Many more things to do in the city and nearby. It's just an hour or so from the most scenic parts of the Texas Hill Country.Also has Seaworld.

7) Lots of hot little chicas

 

696

Well, who could pass up an Alinskyesque Workshop to Take Back Power.  If I promise to behave myself by mis-behaving after 2 PM can I come? 

697

If we go for New Orleans, I can get us kick-ass VIP tours at the D-Day Museum. If Marty punks out on me, I'll do them my own damn self.

If we go for New Orleans, we better call The Gun Store and get a package deal on rentals or we're all going to go fucking broke what with ammo prices these days.

And I'll bet anyone here on Thompson or Grease Gun races. 30 round mag, most hits wins, five second max time.  

698 If you're keeping score and adding heads, I'm a definite for either of the two top destinations.  I've been to both many times.  Going to Phoenix next week for a convention...don't know a damn thing about it.

699 Has the betting started on who will end up married to whom?

I heard rumors about Dave and Slu in Boston. Add in a 24 hour Elvis Chapel and I'd say it's a done deal.

700 Kitteh Unbound: Applied Feline Ferocity 101

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Confluence of Evil: The unholy alliance between International Socialism and the Vast Scandi Lutefisk Conspiracy.

701 They're not going for it, DallasMike. Darn it.

702

Gotta be Vegas!

Can we get Paul Anka to MC? This blog introduced him to a whole new generation!

703 Just for fun, go to visitlasvegas dot com you can sign up and they have all sorts of stuff there, including you can make your own Vegas name, mine is Ms.Thing so while there that's what I shall be known as.

704 I read at Hot Air that the indescribably delicious Michelle Malkin is going.  Worth the price of admission just to see her yumminess.

705

Vegas works for me.  Just hope the hotel has secure parking for my Corvette (road trip out West I was going to be doing in this time frame anyway).  Rides in the 'Vette for any and all Moronettes...

 

706 http://tinyurl.com/yzj6nyg

707 am looking forward to sneaking away to cover the National District Attorneys Convention and the fabulous Mint 400

Posted by: Raoul Duke, sportswriter and gentleman of distinction at November 12, 2009 07:19 PM (JL3qV)

Accompanied, no doubt, by your attorney, a briefcase with a large assortment of illegal substances, and traveling in a rental caddy (with optional insurance) and a trunkful of firearms.

708 damn sockpuppet.

709 Gotta get the Dos Equis "Most Interesting Man In The World" to attend.

710 620 Smurfette,

Oh, heck, no. I'm a B-cup, but a generous one. Some of the other moronettes are way more endowed than I am.

Posted by: wherestherum at November 12, 2009 06:22 PM (GZnia)

More than a mouthful is wasted.
- Frank Zappa

711 I'd like to offer a backup name:

Insurance Refusers Internment Camp

712 Vegas is fantastic. The airport sucks; I remember mile-long lines at the Jihadist-exclusion checkpoints three years ago. Not cool with a pounding hangover.

713 More than a mouthful is wasted.
- Frank Zappa


An uncharacteristic lack of imagination for Zappa.

714 *hugs moviegique*

715 Ooh. I found MY moving buddy.

716

hotel in vegas?

the sahara - $1 beer, shots and hotdogs, plus you get to keep the shot glass.

apart from that it blows chunks.

 

717

Has the betting started on who will end up married to whom?

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 12, 2009 07:24 PM (Be4xl)

I dunno, is ace inviting Chris Hitchens along for this ride ? Not sure he'll be able to resist his charms this time.

718 I think Gehngis/PGiS is the early favortie at 2:1

719

Yes, yes, Vegas is great. Really, though, think about Phoenix (actually Scottsdale) for springtime resort fun! Oh, and meetup:

1. Golf everywhere if ya like that

2. Resorts & hotels are only 75% booked due to the economy.

3. Springtime is nice & warm during the day. Which means the ASU babes aren't exactly bundled up.

4. Pools & drinks next to the pools.

5. ASU babes.

6. More golf, drinking, pools, jacuzzis and ASU babes.

7. OK - spring training in March, Indian casinos if you feel the need.

Sale?

 

720
Really, though, think about Phoenix (actually Scottsdale) for springtime resort fun!

Someone missed the message that a broadening of choices is not welcome, and that Vegas is nearly set in stone.

721 Vegas works for me.

722 From Vegas, a rent-a-wreck and the Hoover Dam is only minutes away. To get some Arizona AWESOMENESS~!

723 Oh, heck, no. I'm a B-cup, but a generous one. Some of the other moronettes are way more endowed than I am. Posted by: wherestherum at November 12, 2009 06:22 PM

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725 Let's all dress like Fat Elvis.

726 Vegas is great... and if it is there, I will attend as long as its during the school year (before memorial day OR after labor day).

See everyone at "Slots o'fun!!!"

727 PARIS IN THE
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728 With $1 beer, shots and hotdogs the Sahara is not the only thing that's gonna be blowing chunks.

729 It doesn't matter. The big question is--Did you get the Val-U-Rite sponsorship?

730 My vote is for the Big Easy.  The food along would make the trip worthwhile.

731 For all you Vegas fans, I'd just like to point out that New Orleans has better quality hobos.  Stay focused, Morons!

732 RENO!

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They got the convention space, the hotel space and they are seriously looking to cut some deals...

...seriously, RENO!

733 Oh you all have no sense of adventure. If it was in CO it might be parka weather but it could be bikini weather. Who doesn't want to have to pack for 4 seasons /sarc off

734

Way, way late to this discussion, but I want to add my two cents just to feel important.

Really, Texans? "We've got guns." What kind of enticement is that? BTW, I question the validity of that statement. I've lived in DFW over ten years, and I've yet to see a gun.

I know NOLA won't be chosen, but I've got to defend her against the naysayers. I've visited NOLA twice, I've walked the streets late at night, and I've returned home unscathed. Is it a dangerous town? I suppose so, but, come on, y'all! Are we gun toting conservatives, or are we gun toting conservatives? We can so kick hoodlum ass.

And yada, yada, yada it has bars and houses of ill repute.

 

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737

Just a late-night lurker, but the terpalette and I are in.  Vegas works (I'm in CO), so we can drive.  We haven't been to NO, so we would go for that as well. For NO, remember JazzFest runs in the spring (this year from Apr 23 - May 2), so the hotels might have greater occuppancy rates and higher prices, but this does provide many additional hippies for Frank J. to punch in the face.

Glad to see someone not taking things too seriously, I have to say I'm of the same mind.  However, having said that, a little work could be done without even putting down the cocktails, and the later panels could even have a two drink minimum.  I have a few panel ideas if you're interested, and I would be willing to moderate one as well.  Let me know if there is anything else you need.

Don't underestimate how big this could get - no one expected the tea parties to blow up like they did, and I think you're going to be surprised by the response.  Look at me -  I never (ok, rarely) post to the blogs I read, but sun, drinking, and politics are three of my favorite things, so you've piqued my interest.  Others will have theirs piqued as well.

BTW, I kind of like Conservapalooza for a name....

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739 The ONLY thing that could get me back to Vegas- is an AofSHQ sponsored event!

740 Hey! Don't rule out Dallas. I don't have the time to leave my business right now, but I'd be down for a conference here in Big D. Or Fort Worth, for that matter. If you like cows with your city Ft. Worth is great. If you prefer more trendiness and upscale places, Dallas is pretty nice. There are a bunch of new hotels and developments around downtown. the Arts District is really starting to take off. Of course, I live and work around here, so i am biased (but also very libertarian and countercultural). I mean, unless you just want to give your convention money to Harry Reid's state or to the Democratic machine down in New Orleans.

741 Hey now, hey now! "D.C." is that place that's the murder capital of America, where the heirs of Marion Barry still rule. The important guys work in "Washington."

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