1 WE ARE F'd.

2 Who's the cowboy now?

3 Who will be the last to die for a waffle?

4 I suppose in fairness, I should threadjack here to and lament the departure of Lou Dobbs from CNN.  Not that I watch CNN.

5 Re: "Make the call!"

His call is that Islam should win. He's just trying to figure out how to make that happen.

6

OMG even Biden would be an upgrade!!  Aggggggg

7

He's closer to a sheep rancher...2 Who's the cowboy now?

and he's taking his time, carefully considering how he can vote 'Present'.

8 Well said UJ.

There should be no exit strategy. There should only be Victory. Victory comes in a lot of shapes and styles.

UJ what is victory in Astan look like to you? Not looking for the essay answer, just a short one... Knowing there are no short answers in a tribal society....

9 The more scary Obama gets, the more likely it is for the Demtards to lose Congress.  But what will be left in three years?  Iodine pill shortages, and glass parking lots?  An economy in ruins?

10 The cart is way in front of the horse here.

11 True story, "voting present".

12

Are you fucking kidding me?  Can't he make an actual fucking decision?

Argggghhh.

If you need me I'll be in the Angry Dome.  I've been spending a shitload of time in the Angry Dome lately, for some reason.

13 And just when I thought I couldn't hate anyone more than Jimmah Karter...Odumbo decides to open up another front on the war on America.

14 Obviously, they left out the one option he would pick.

We run away like a bunch of useless pussies, and you make a speech.

15 Excellent video.  It's unfortunate that there is literally no one in the government who is going to give Obama this bit of truth.  Unless it comes with three resignations as I count.

16 I am not a role model.

17 I don't think that I have ever prayed this much for a President.

18 This is what our fucktard president is trying to prove.

More government is always the answer!

19
... even Biden would be an upgrade

Yes.  This is no longer incompetence, this is malice towards the republic.

20
Let me rephrase that:  we  can no longer pretend that this man is merely incompetent in matters of foreign policy and national defense.  His actions can only lead to the conclusion that he bears malice towards the United States of America, and his desire is that more of us, military and civilian, should die.

We might need to move that Vegas thing up in the calendar, Ace.

21

Like John Kerry and moi, The President so admires the French.  If only he didn't have to use a racist white flag.

 

22 The strategy is to surrender while making it look like a win...
declare victory and pull out.

23 May the worm of conscience gnaw his soul.

24 Time for the Praetorian Guard to do their jobs.

25

It's been 3 mother fucking months.  President Big Balls on Afghanistan cannot make a decision for 2 reasons.

1) He isn't bright.  But plays a bright teleprompter reader on TV.

2) He and his Posse have not calculated the POLITICAL fall out successfully yet.

What Commander in Chief in American history has been such a fuck up.

26 But, if you remember, he's not really interested in victory.

27 James Earl Carter.

28 Obama is the smartest guy in any room ever, since the beginning of time.  Just ask him.

29

Obama is paying for his programs with America's self respect.  The America that stood for freedom, now stands for an empty idea of utopia concocted by Obama and his revolutionary friends, mentors and handlers.

On this day, the day that honors the lives of men and women who gave all to preserve the foundations of freedom, the foundations are undermined.

30 Skye?? A SHEEP RANCHER would be a SHEPARD SMITH??

31 This means one of two things:
1)    Obamacare is dead.
2)    Obamacare is the bag.

I'm betting two.  He already knows that he's going to use the nuclear option in the Senate.  He doesn't care if it passes without federal abortion funding as long as it has the public option.  He'll  get federal funding later.
He no longer gives a shit what the country thinks.
Now, we are going to start to see the ugly.

32 Quagmire!

33 I don't think that I have ever prayed this much for because of a President.

34

When Obama is taking a TED KENNEDY (SHIT), alone in the crapper.

He is indeed the smartest man in the room.

35 Doesn't the phrase "the smartest guys in the room" generally refer to the Wall Street guys who, for many years until recently, were republicans?

36 I don't plan on doing anything until after I get my Peace Prize. I heard they can take them away.

37 I'm still trying to figure out how a charlaton with zero military experience gets to call the shots. It's not right.

38 RayJ, I don't think he has the 50 votes he'd need for the nuclear option.  Look what happened to the Doctors fix.  He's got mid 50s for a straight up vote, but there are too many Senators unwilling to go along with a gimmick. 

Question, how long before Nancy decides he isn't retreating fast enough and pulls funding?

39 think the framers assumed the prez would always have had experience in the military.

40 Obama's gift to soldiers on Veteran's Day...

Or should I say a "present."

41 I'm starting to think this Obama fellow doesn't give two shits about our soldiers

42 (apologizing in advance if referring to him as 'fellow' is racist)

43 Why do I get the feeling that Obama does not know what he is doing?

May I please see his 10th grade Chemistry grade.  Just to verify he actually went to school. I think we are in the hands of Chicago thugs, black racists and dimwits.

44

I'd like to think that there is hope for the future, but I'm just not seeing it.  The Pres'ent is turning Asscrackistan into Vietnam as fast as he can. 

We are well and truly fucked. 

45

I have never been more embarassed to call myself even an EX-democrat.

what the hell is this? now he wants to start from scratch again?  treasonous I say!  there are soldiers on the front line waiting for reinforcements. Either give it to them, or pull everyone out!!!!

This is all a political game to the asshole. Everytime I think I cannot get more disgusted with the man, he exceeds it.

46 He's voting present again. He hasn't got the balls to make a decision like this. God help our military with this weasel in the White House.

47 Wall Street has not been Republican since 1982. Like Hollywood they went straight left when they realized that a gamed system was far easier than the open market. Wall Street, and I am talking about financial and money people, including those worthless private banks Bush and Obama bailed out, are almost entirely libs, content with the belief that they will personally be rich in a beggared America.

48 I won.  You need to stop getting all wee wee'd up over this terrorist thing. 

49 And for pulling this on Veteran's Day I'd like to send Barry a hearty shout out of Fuck you Barry.

50 The timing, as usual, is "impeccable".  This guy truly has no clue whatsoever.  Look up "Narcissistic Personality Disorder" and "Schizoid Personality Disorder" and see if the symptoms aren't eerily similar.  Also, go to American Thinker and find Robin of Berkeley's "Obama is a Nowhere Man" essay - it's chilling.........

51 Dude. It just hit me. I get it now.

He is going to slo-o-o-o-owly roll out a strategy of semi-retreat over the holidays (between Thanksgiving and New Years), when the American public isn't paying much attention, and the media is focused on inane, feel-good holiday stories. And when the Republicans attack his Afghanistan policy, they will be denounced as a bunch of right-wing partisan war-mongering "Grinches" who are ruining the holiday season with hate and division.

Book it.

52 May I please see his 10th grade Chemistry grade.

Chemistry?  You're joking right?  That's way above his pay grade.

53 Words, just words. Afghanistan was where we need to be, the good war you know, and now this...well this has been going on since he decided not to talk to General McCrystal for 90 days.

54

As per Joe Biden, my former State Senator:

"Not long after he takes office there will be an international incident started by someone to see if he has a spine. And they're going to find out he has steel in his spine." 

55 Chemistry?  You're joking right?  That's way above his pay grade.

Kindergarten crafts, then?  Or did he eat all the playdough?

56 What are they doing in Afghanistan? The guys they were after crossed the border into Pakistan.

57

Well said Uncle Jimbo. My best friend is a recon marine and I can only imagine what he is thinking right now. Our troops are in greater danger because of our commander in chief. I never thougt I would say that in my lifetime, but here I am.

 

58

#47, right on the nose about the financial people. They are buffing his behind with their noses figuring if they can get close to him, they'll get the political favors he hands out. Sad excuses for wanna be masters of the universe with limp suspenders.

And even sadder is that Obama and his crew really believe in their heart of hearts that this is how the system should work, that the political elite should decide who wins and loses and how all the largesse is doled out and distributed.

 

59 Time for General Petraeus to sack DC.

Move the seat of government to the heartland.

60 Methos: "...Not that I watch CNN."

You should, though. Besides ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR, MSNBC, CNBC, HLN, and the AP-derived others, it's the only real news outlet around.

61 I am sure POTUS Sarah Palin would have given McChrystal everything he asked for and asked if he was sure he did not want more.

62
I remember barry chuckling when being interviewed about the Chrysler takeover.
He was thrilled to be screwing the "system".
He has a brown thumb because everything he touches turns to shit.

63 I've never seen such a sneaky, underhanded, douchebag.  And incompetent, did I mention incompetent?  If brains were dynamite, he wouldn't have enough to blow his nose.

64

When Obama is taking a TED KENNEDY (SHIT), alone in the crapper.

He is indeed the smartest man in the room.

Posted by: gus at November 11, 2009 11:16 PM (MaqIC)

I'd say the Ted Kennedy would score a little higher on the IQ test. At least it knows when to make a decision to cut and run. 

65 please have your web monkey optimize your pages so that when I attempt to share this post on facebook, it will be populated with a proper excerpt and a image which compliments the post. it would be most appreciated. documentation is here...

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66 -- Afraid to anger the left side of his base and possibly lose their votes on his pet domestic issues, if he has to compromise with the Blue Dogs.
-- Afraid to anger the Blue Dogs in the House and Senate and completely lose their votes on his pet issues if he can't compromise much with the far left.
-- Hoping some X-factor comes in to play to make the decision less divisive within his own party, or have some new event occur that makes the decision for him.

If only Obama could make a decision on Afghanistan that just angered conservative Republicans, he'd have no problem making up his mind. What will probably happen is the Afghan situation will get worse and worse to the point where Barack can justify a pullout because public sentiment has strong turned against the war because U.S. forces are being hung out to dry. And they'll be hung out to dry because Obama can't make a decision.

67

When times are tough - listen to the Beat Farmers, "Happy Boy."

http://tinyurl.com/yby24bm

68 America doesn't go to war based on an exit strategy, we go to win.

No, winning is something that's only reserved for Obie; you know, like last November.

We won the Cold War with the fall of the Berlin Wall, but it's unlikely President Prissypants will ever admit it.

69

I wonder how much latitude to change tactics the commanders in theatre have.  ROE were changed last spring in anticipation of an Afghan surge, and now it appears no surge is coming.  Can the commanders at least allow close air support now, and not leave our guys to die outnumbered and virtually alone, or does that decision have to come from DC also?

No force in the world will ever be able to take and hold that much territory with that few troops and no force multiplier, which is what our air support is.  If these decisions are being made in DC, it's time to get our sons and daughters the hell out of there.

I'd rather we look like a nation of cowards than leave our forces abandoned in the field.

70 tick. tick. tick.

71 68, c'mon, everyone knows "history" won the cold war, so says Sec. Clinton inadvertently referring back to Hegel.

Another possibility is that Obama ended the cold war, simply by being alive.

72 Didn't Captain BS campaign on how he was going to be smart and tough on A'Stan and surrounding areas? What exactly was that campaign promise?*

*Expiration date, I know, everything comes with an expiration date

73 71 68, c'mon, everyone knows "history" won the cold war, so says Sec. Clinton inadvertently referring back to Hegel.

Of course, the same people that say USSR was going to inevitably collapse are the same people who said the USSR was going to be around forever.

74

Hope and Change.

What RELIGION is our Pretend nearly cool groovy President??

Anyone?
Beuhler?

75 pushing instead for revisions to clarify how and when U.S. troops would turn over responsibility to the Afghan government

Ah.

Another nice delaying tactic in order to avoid making the tough decision.

Well played, Celebrity President.

Hmmm. What is going to be next week's excuse?

Not wanting to upset Muslims so close to the holy day of "Id al-Adha"?

I wonder if he can keep this up until 2012?

76 72

I won, that's what happened.

77 I was going to start by saying "It seems as if everything" but no, it doesn't "seem"...it is.

Every damn thing this man does is nothing more than a giant FU to America. There has to be some sort of law against that or something. Shit.

78 Better part of the article is in the next paragraph, where the President is deferring to the opinion of the Ambassador. So the State Department now knows more about fighting a counterinsurgency. Un-friggin-believable.

79
Who's the cowboy now?

If Bush was a cowboy, then Obama is a rodeo clown.

80 Obama's message to all soldiers of OIF and OEF on Veteran's Day: GO F**k yourselves.

81 the little commie bastard can take a leap.

82 Afghan government

President dufus doesn't even understand that's an oxymoron. 

83 Why do I think that DisneyWorld will never have an animatronic version of President Obama, but rather he will, with nothing better to do, insist on giving the speeches himself?

84 20  Let me rephrase that:  we  can no longer pretend that this man is merely incompetent in matters of foreign policy and national defense.  His actions can only lead to the conclusion that he bears malice towards the United States of America, and his desire is that more of us, military and civilian, should die.

I told all I could, including actual libtards and young people who were voting for him, cause like he is so kewl, ya know?  Anyway all you needed to know about Obama is he sat in a church for twenty years that CURSED America, that means he was in agreement with that feeling and thinking.  God does not play games, He takes your words as real, I guess many do not believe words anymore.  Where you park your ass for twenty years, is where your heart IS! 

This man is a curse for America, we were warned, and yet people think this is some game like playing with ghosts in a seance.  Unfortunate for us that never believed a thing this bastard said, we will suffer also, probably more cause we get to watch the rape of this country we love. 

But you fucking libtards, I hope you lose your jobs, your savings, your doctors, your freedom, and your wives are beaten by Imams, day is coming, go bow to Mecca you hopeless dreamy eyed narcissistic fools.  Thanks to you America may go dark and with it the world, I lay it all at your feet. 

85 Posted by: AmishDude at November 12, 2009 12:16 AM (T0NGe)

Disney, ABC, will call him the greatest president ever.

86

Obama wants America to be defeated in Afghanistan.  For liberal Democrats like him, Vietnam was the best thing that happened to us, and Obama wants to give the left another triumph just like it. 

He's not dithering and undecided.  He knows just what he wants.

87 But you fucking libtards, I hope you lose your jobs, your savings, your doctors, your freedom, and your wives are beaten by Imams, day is coming, go bow to Mecca you hopeless dreamy eyed narcissistic fools.  Thanks to you America may go dark and with it the world, I lay it all at your feet.

Even though we know they are pussies, won't happen. 80 million gun-registered Americans in this country, plus the ones who aren't registered. Yeah, we may suffer for awhile, but they know better than to push too far.

88 Bareek O-Bama - "Just trying to give the other side a fighting chance." Fifth-columnist. (initially) Traitor. Communist. Undercover Muslim. Manchurian Candidate. The worst friend a freeman ever had.

89 Addendum: Apologies once again for a bad layout. Not used to having to use basic HTML as a rule...

90 Seriously, I loved this country with my life, like many of you, but I am becoming unwilling to be a part of a country that is ruled by secular humanists and kissing the ass of Islam because of the cowardice of political correctness, is this country coming to secession, to a revolt?  Are Americans the same as those in 1776?  We are taking far more abuse IMO than our fore-bearers took from the British. 

It feels like 1859 now, and it is once again about freedom, freedom from an oppressive government that does not listen, does not care and is on its own course contrary to the will of the people.  This times the roles seem reversed, more the northern states all into slavery, slaves to government and to a lying media, liberals don't just believe lies, they LOVE them.

91 How do we get the impeachment ball rolling?
our friends and family are over there, damn it.
this sickens me to my soul...

92 WeeWee loves Islam that is all there is - I don't care what he says. He fucking lies about everything and he is lying that he is not a muslim in his heart.

93 jehu, we covered that last night.  Or was it this afternoon?  I forget, the topic comes up a lot.

94

Obama the dimwitted loser, actually said.

"Hasan MAY HAVE CRACKED FROM STRESS"

It's called erring to the side of the MUSLIM MASS MURDERING TERRORIST.

YES OPIE!!!  Maybe the MUZZTARD CRACKED. 

What the fuck happened to America?????  Obama isn't smart enough to be DOG CATCHER.

95

Agree with the last statement. Bring them home now.

Iraq is the correct battlefield for the War on Terror. Bring our boys home from Afghanistan and secure the borders (and watch out for Mexico).

96 87  Even though we know they are pussies, won't happen. 80 million gun-registered Americans in this country, plus the ones who aren't registered. Yeah, we may suffer for awhile, but they know better than to push too far.

No they will push and push not realizing it can explode.  Think of what they are doing in Calif, just started a ten percent tax off the top from people's checks.  And we are actually at 17% unemployment.  Dollar is worthless, only momentum is propping up buying power here in the States.  If this is not controlled within a year we will start seeing inflation running up to 50% or more, interest rates will climb to 25% or more...end of the economy as we know it.  This is all a fantasy world of the Left, they think they can just keep spending, but it is already breaking at the state level...NY, CA, and other states, not long before it will hit the federal level.  And these Obama people will act shocked, just shocked, even some of the MSM will start to point blame, all except Chris Matthews and Olberman that will still need to wipe their mouths after...well you know.

97 If I understand this correctly, he pulls us out (after all our fighting men are cut down in tatters due to lack of backups), Afghanistan falls, Pakistan right behind, Tehran gets nukes, threatens the Saudis and all of the ME, Israel is wiped off the face of the earth, our thoroughly dependent oil supply is cut off, no one has any money left to buy any kind of food or transportation, the entire SanJoaquin valley, the breadbasket, is a dustbowl and we all fucking starve to death in the midst of WWIII.

All for some New Jack Thug wannabee with a pathological narcissistic disorder.  Neat.  I don't quite know where to put my anger.  I'm sure it will come out sideways.  Sick. Just sick. I hate this man like no other.

98

Sombody needs to stsoo this guy. Remember when people used to say I'll tear your head off and shit down you neck? Ahh good times!

99

Obama is an incompetant emotional wreck.  He pines for a father who dumped him like a bad habit.  Mommy was a slut commie.   Second Daddy was also Muslim and also dumped Opie.  The Commie slut Mommy dumped Opie before Opie's 10th birthday.

Obama is a loser.  He has emotional issues, he has Mommy and Daddy issues.

He loves Islam and Marxism, because they are both the GREAT EQUALIZERS of MISERY.

Our country's INSTITUTIONS have become LIBERAL.  Our population has by and large become INCAPABLE of seeing BARACK OBAMA for the USELESS FUCKING LOSER that HE IS.  Because......OUR SOCIETY has become DEPENDANT, rather than INDEPENDANT.

Our general public has become STUPID SHEEP.  Needy stupid sheep.

Obama is a fuck-up.  He is not intelligent, he is not a success in any measurable way.  He is an AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, PRETEND PRESIDENT.

 

God help us.

100 Yep, but at least libtards can jack-off at night as they dream of Obama's pecs.  I hate that I hate these fuckers so much.  Taken the greatest gift of God to man...America, and shit all over it.  You can almost wish for a Red Dawn moment, except it would be Islam.  I could almost sit up in the hills and watch these goat fuckers butt-fuck all of San Francisco, starting with the bug-eyed blinking bitch.  Just the expression on their faces as they are treated to a fundamentalist whipping post hell, you know the one they imagined was coming from guys like me.  Eat it you f'king libtards...See how many of your movies Islam will let you make, see how well you do protesting their mosques, lets see if you have Gay Pride marches, you stupid tools.

101 Meanwhile, George Soros laughs his ass off.

102
So I take it the invasion of Pakistan is off.

103 My 22 year old son, my only child, is a Marine.  It sickens me that President MeMe is in charge of our military. Can we impeach President MeMe now? I almost can't even talk to people I know that voted for this idiot.... Some of them are my closest friends.  Many of them regret their votes.  But some don't--the ones that don't regret their votes are the ones I have the hardest time with. At least most are finally coming to their senses.

104 I mean in Obama's defence, who knows more about managing a war than a small beta male named Rahm?

105 O, and he SUCKS as a speaker, with all his phony pregnant pauses, and his wife is an ugly horse of a woman with hips that look like they were bolted on at Frigidaire...take that you lying media whores.  I saw a clip of him speaking to some communist union during the campaign, and he started doing this alliteration with sort of this airy thing at the end of sentences like some Pentecostal Preacher style, but without any comprehensible message...God I hate that sort of preachy stylistic sort of southern preacher bull shit. 

O, and he is NOT intelligent, just because the MSM says so, they think Gore is intelligent, remember Bush making a fool of him in the debates?  And Gore going on about Global Warming when the earth has been cooling for 10 years, would the MSM know?  Could they actually talk to even Joe Bastardi?  Fucking tools, I used to think deception had to be a strong influence, I could scarce believe lies would be so out in the open and so ridiculous, I never knew deception would be a state of heart, that people would actually come to the place where they WANT to believe lies, even when the truth is right in their face.  This past two weeks we had a Jihadist shootout in Detroit or Chicago, A father run over his daughter in Phoenix (honor killing) and this fuckwad at Ft Hood, and the D.C. Jihadist sniper put to death...just in two weeks you stupid plodding cowlike media.  I hope you reporters are the first to the Islamic whipping post!

Like the Steve Martin movie where he asks for a sign and the pictures spin on the walls, and a tornado practically goes through the room, and Steve Martin is quite for a minute, then says again, "come on a sign, just any sign."  Fuck!  Do we need a city nuked, with a guy in a long beard fucking a goat in a Mosque cackling on TV saying he did it?

106 You know what?  Fuck him.  There ain't nothin else to say at this point.

107 Whatever decision you end up making, you have shown a complete lack of leadership ability.

Jimbo, The Precedent has been very decisive. This IS his decision. The dithering IS the strategy (as I have been saying for months, now). This strategy has been obvious for a long time and it is directed against the US - no big surprise from the America-hater in the White House. This is nothing short of treason.

108 Throw Obama to the Bull Queers and let them anal plug that sack of shit to hell!!!

109 "Time for General Petraeus to sack DC."

Heh.

110 He's trying to draw the enemy offsides. And I don't mean the Taliban.

111 71 - Hillary actually looks a little something like Hegel.

http://tinyurl.com/ydlgwp8

112 102
So I take it the invasion of Pakistan is off.

I'm still waiting for the great overmountain invasion of Pakistan that he promised us since "John McCain promises to follow Osama Bin Laden to the gates of hell, but he wont even go to his cave in Pakistan.  I will."

113 He's trying to draw the enemy offsides. And I don't mean the Taliban.

Interesting. I hadn't thought of that. So he's like hoping that Republicans go berserk and begin baying for atomic genocide in Afghanistan, so then he can pose as a "moderate" as he metaphorically signs the surrender documents to the Taliban? Please elaborate.

114 Could some one go wake up Monty?
 A voice of reason would be good about now....

115 I don't mean the rest of you weighing in aren't thoroughly grasping the situation and reacting appropriately given the information. But, like my previous post borrowing trouble straight into WWIII, I'd sure like, oh, say, John Bolton to make a guest appearance about now. 

116

The explaination is obvious: Europe can't afford a strong military and now we can't either. Making a commitment would mean more guns and less butter for lazy Democrats. Besides, he's now a Nobel laureate with incredible Peace Making powers, Al Quada will just melt at his incredible speechifying.

November 2010 can't come quick enough to stop this jackass.

117

I'll bet 20,000 quatloos that President Wonderfuck has acquired a more diverse set of nicknames in this short period of time than Bush ever did.

118 "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

An oath broken... an Oath never intended to be be kept.

Jehu @ #84 I agree with your sentiment Friend... however, as Mr. S.Adams @#87 says, there are more than just "Gideon's 300".

A Heritage release showed that more than 1 million weapons were legally purchased in the US in August alone.... the monthly trend continues.... it is not an anomaly.

Continue to buy weapons and ammunition my fellow Americans..... it sends a message that even President Dum Dum might notice. However; don't expect the current speaker to notice... she so damn dumb, when you look into her eyes, you see the other side of the room.

119 If Obama were a sheriff in a small town...

...it would take him hours to decide whether to send in backup while one of his deputies was being brutalized.

120 If MSNBC's headline is true, then Obama now owns the War in Afghanistan. Lock. Stock. Barrel. There is no spin that the MSM can do to make it otherwise as the region digresses.  Unfotunately there is no real upside to this, as this continues to place our troops in ever escalating danger.

There's been comparisons of Obama to Lincoln.  There is one perverse similarity.  Lincoln had an incompetent commander by the name of McLellen.  Obama has an incompetent commander by the name of Obama.

121 JAM2

I sincerely hope you are correct and there is still left some bedrock remnant of the American spirit, I went to my first protest in August, most of the people there (Tea Party in Phoenix) had never protested in their lives, maybe these fucktards have awakened a sleeping giant. 

122 For the first time in my life, I envy Hondurans.

123 I guess that walk through the graves of the Afghan war dead didn't make the impression I had hoped it would make. Instead it appears it made the impression I was afraid it would make.

This man really sees himself as the savior of the world and even though he couldn't remember it was Veteran's Day not memorial day and even though his wife couldn't treat the honoring of the dead at the Tomb of the Unknowns with the solemn respect it deserved, I'm sure he truly believes he's doing more for the troops by this than by  making a decision. The pathetic thing is, he has so little experience dealing with serious decisions and life or death issues, he hasn't figured out that every day he screws around he increases the number of those tombstones at Arlington and around the world.

You are killing our troops, Mr. President. Could you get off your arse, quit running off to Camp David or the Rose Garden and MAKE A GOD&^%$#) presidential-style choice and get these troops their BACKUP?????? Thanks.

124 he hasn't figured out that every day he screws around he increases the number of those tombstones at Arlington and around the world.

Posted by: Mad Monica at November 12, 2009 01:36 AM (2TnJY)

The Precedent knows that, as everyone does. That is his intention and has been from the start. It is part of his desire to exact revenge on America. He always intended to bleed our troops and demoralize our nation.

Why do you think he has any interest in helping the US? He believes he is here to exact revenge on us, which is all he's been doing since he slimed into office.

125 RJ, I suspect that Salem is refering to the 3% crowd's "No Ft. Sumpters!" pledge or the Libertarians' renunciation of the initiation of violence to effect domestic political change. In other words, the theory is that the Won is doing all this so that someone on our side does something rash so that he can justify declaring martial law and starting a domestic crackdown.

126

Avoiding any provocative words and all sense of emphasis, I laid this out for a friend of mine (former Navy officer). In the same room was a former intelligence officer and two retired Marine non-coms.

It was quiet, they had all placed their coffee cups down as I read the intro. One cleared his throat and had me read, word for word while noting the quotations, the entire article.

Not one of them said a word, nor made a sound other than clearing their throats or sipping coffee. At the end of it, one of the Marines spit out the sliding glass door and said, "That is beyond bad. That's the worst of the worst horseshit I've heard."

All of them were by this time shaking their heads. Not one of them offered anything but a slight frown. No joking around, no swapping "I can't believe the idiocy" kind of semi-insulting irritation. Just grim and quiet. And mad.

No sighs, just a couple times two or so of them kinda blew air out in a whoosh and looked around. For a bit I though I had stepped in something, fucked up because I had brought up a subject or presumed something I shouldn't have, me not being a vet and talking about something like this on Veteran's day. Kinda half apologized but was brought up short - "Wasn't you, don't sweat it, wasn't wrong to bring up. "

Last one out the door I stopped and asked what he was thinking. He just said, (and I'm paraphrasing)"Well, to be honest, all I can think is that the shit has truly hit the fan and in about 12 hours most of our armed forces in the world will know our president is willing to sacrifice them all in order to win an argument. That our president is a traitor and isn't fit to lead a dog, much less a country. That's what I'm thinking, And that scares the shit out of me, because none of them are going to feel like he's on their side at all." (the last sentence is near exact)

 

 

127

The last leader I recall who kept overruling his generals was Hitler.  That didn't end well.  Of course, Hitler overruled his generals to achieve victory.  The corporal was sure he was smarter than his generals.  Obama, by contrast, is overruling his generals to achieve defeat.  He's the community organizer who's the smartest guy in the room. 

That boast will come to haunt Obama.  It's the perfect title for chapters and documentaries about his failed judgement in the years to come.

128 Brave Sir Robama.

Perfect.

129 Sometimes, I hate it when I am right. I predicted that there was no way in hell that Obama will let anything resembling victory happen on his watch.

130 I'll be a Devil's Advocate on this one...so please be gentle.

1. Obama may be wanting to see more specific endgame deadlines and such - i.e. when exactly Afghan army units are going to be ready to takeover. He wants to pin some things down better, which if you normally read government reports and plans can be hard to do.

2. His own inexperience means he goes slow (not to mention flying everywhere for speeches) so he's a little scared to just commit without asking a bunch of questions, which may not be a bad thing.

3. There may be some 3d Chess move where he's getting the Paks or Afghans to be more serious by making them sweat.

I don't really buy 1 or 3. 2 is more likely, but do we really want on-the-job training for this?

I think much more likely: He wants to take the Nobel Peace Prize FIRST then commit troops, so he make a prettier speech. I think he has to commit troops. If you pull out and any bad stuff happens - your legacy is shot. It becomes Obama "lost" Afghanistan.

131

If Bush was a cowboy, then Obama is a rodeo clown.
No. Rodeo clowns show bravery. Obama's the guy that sweeps out the stalls. And does a half-assed job of it at that.

132 Posted by: sexypig at November 12, 2009 02:08 AM (xxCfn)

If it is #2, then all that does is show he's a bigger waste of space than anyone could have imagined - even the most amateur of managers, to use the term as broadly as possible in describing what the CinC is, knows when to defer to experts and listen to them when you yourself know the subject is out of your realm of expertise.

So basically, he's got shit for brains and doesn't even know when to ask for help.  Quite frankly, it makes me surprised that he filled any cabinet position ever, since clearly he thinks he's all-knowing on every single policy matter in existence and those yet to come up, and doesn't really need anyone else there to help guide him.

133

sexypig;

Remember Occam's Razor - the simplest explanation tends to be the best one.

If you take that into account, and the following: son of a communist, father (absent) was a communist, educated by communists (Dreams of My (commie) Father), mentored by a communist (Ayers), promoted by communists (Ayers and other Marxists), member of a racist church with a marxist-derived 'theology' for 20 years; The explanation is simple. He's a fucking communist and all communists by definition are dedicated to destroy the American way of life and identity (because it defies and invalidates Marx & Hegel's view of historic inevitability).

So, remembering Occam's Razor, the next point would be:

4. He's a fucking communist and wants the US to be destroyed.

My bet's on #4 still.

134 Posted by: sexypig at November 12, 2009 02:08 AM (xxCfn)

I understand you are just playing Devil's advocate (and The PRecedent is pretty damn close to the Devil, frankly) but none of your possibilities makes any sense. You cannot point to any other area where he had exhibited anything approaching what you are hypothesizing, so to believe that one of them would be operative in this case just doesn't fly.

The fact is that The Precedent's intentions are as clear as day, just as they are with respect to his domestic policies, just as they are when he rushes to incorrectly say that the Cambridge cops acted stupidly but cannot eke out an atom of honesty in the Ft. Hood terror attack. It is not stupidity (though The Precedent is an exceedingly stupid person). It is that he hates America, which pretty much everyone should have been aware of long before the election and certainly since the inauguration, as every single one of his policies, words, or actions has been designed to harm our nation. Every. Single. One.

The Precedent is doing exactly what he always planned on doing with respect to Afghanistan. That should be clear, by now.

135 SexyPig, the problem with number one is - it fails the highest "Laws of War." Not the Geneva Conventions - but the fundamental aspects of what the heck war means. Practically rule #1 is: "No plan survives contact with the enemy."

If we're looking for milestones "Once incidents-per-month in YY province is below XX, we'll  transfer the routine patrolling to a certified Afghan troop with 'advisors'." That's one thing.

If he's looking for "I need goal XYZ by June where we pull out." - in that case, just wow.

There is no such thing as a perfect plan, namely because there is an enemy involved.

136 What the fuck does O care?  He has thousands of people to protect him from a terrorist attack.  What a clock (without the l).

137 Make a decision or get off me.

138

131

Reminds me of the movie Stir Crazy.

Obama is the overrated cowboy who gets punched out by Grossberger.

139 Posted by: White House commode at November 12, 2009 02:30 AM (Oq21Q)

The Precedent doesn't need you. He likes to fling his shit.

140 I'm not saying as an excuse to declare martial law, exactly. But the left gets by playing the victim and demonizing their opponents. Some persons who could be roughly construed as, and certainly portrayed as, on the right are inevitably going to do something rash and when that happens it buys them some time for their health care takeover and helps their race-polarization efforts if that doesn't pan out. The O-bomber is their bait.

141 I'll be honest, I've enjoyed knowing that I'm so much smarter than the President.

Interesting, I don't feel too good about that.


Prick

142 140 I'm not saying as an excuse to declare martial law, exactly.

Posted by: Salem at November 12, 2009 02:34 AM (86rbG)

That's what the impending monetary collapse will, likely, be used for.

143 Comment 106 sums it up for me.

144

Barack Hussein Obama is a cunt.

 

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A cunt with christian louboutin shoes.

 

147

I believe we prefer the term "squeal-hole".

 

148 Or "giggle-pit".

149 And if the right doesn't act in some strong way before the elections they'll know that they're basically impotent. The left will then feel they can safely carry out widespread voter fraud, fed by funneled stimulus, because the goalposts will have moved. It's a ploy to drag things out, really.

Not that it'll necessarily work out for them. I always thought they'd use the O-Bomber to goad the right but I figured that he might move a little more slowly in the beginning to shore up his popularity but I now don't think that he's really up to that task. Besides, the Dems as a party have no restraint. Their strategy would work better but I think they have forgotten how to mimic common humanity. Most of them are just as aloofly inept and ridiculous as O-Bomber.

150

The left will then feel they can safely carry out widespread voter fraud

Then? How do you think they won this election?  Take a look at the maps.  Urban areas had more voters than ever before.  They didn't have to rely on only the dead rising this time.  Acorn didn't just fill out all those regristrations to flood the system, they used them to vote, over and over and over.  They cancelled out millions of legitimate votes and gave us our illegitimate government. 

 

151 Al,

Yeah, no plan meets contact with the enemy, but I am putting myself in the shoes of a lawyer/community activist.

I can almost sympathize with Obama in that it must be a hard, hard choice for him who doesn't know much about the military, except....wait a minute - he could just say "go with McChrystal's plan" and if it failed nobody would blame Obama much.

So, it must be about politics. The Nobel, healthcare vote. Iran somehow?

If its healthcare, I can only imagine he is waiting for it to pass, and then we will withdraw from Afghanistan - why else delay?

Again maybe he is just a lawyer who is used to being allowed years to resolve anything. His book took forever to write too. That's occam's razor.

152 Jimbo,
Obama is doing a great job of trying to defeat the enemy.  Everything he does is intended to bring the enemy down, and he is doing it very well. Give him time. You and others just haven't figured out WHO HIS ENEMY IS!!

He wants to be KING, not president. You can't be king in a republic (we are not a democracy).  As soon as he brings HIS enemies to their knees, he can be crowned. Then you and the others will figure out who his enemy is.

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That "steel" in Obambi's spine that Slo Joe opined about is looking more like al dente pasta every day.

Sheesh, it's almost as if this moron is just making it up as he goes.

PRESENT!

158

Hey America, BOHICA.

 

Thanks, 52%. Jerkoffs.

159 Damn, is there still some drunk bastards in this thread?

160 O won't make a decision. A decision would require him to commit to something (other than himself). I think he honestly believes that if he doesn't do anything this whole thing will just go away on its own. And he can eat his waffle...

161 I used to believe either Obama was a commie or a Marxist, hell just a Progressive, which is anti-American or he's something much worse.

He's the much worse. I've seen many articles and posts but they all dance around the camel in the room.

The signs are all there we just succumbed to the PC we constantly bitch about.

Horowitz said that the radical left and radical Islam have united years ago. Where could someone with anti-American, anti-Christian and anti-Israeli views go and not stand out?

Where could jihadists field a candidate and said candidate look just like anyone else we're accustomed too?

The progressive left.

A famed socialist of old,Norman Thomas said this:

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of “liberalism”, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened..”

He went on to say:

“I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.”

If a socialist infiltrated the Democrat Party who's to say the Muslim Brotherhood hasn't also.

The Muslim Brotherhood has waged a "stealth jihad". Destroy us from within. Did not HAMAS get in power through elections? Isn't Hezbollah power sharing in Lebanon through elections?

We've been duped. It's a brilliant strategy. They got us so focused on his radical progressivism, which is dangerous enough, we overlooked something much worse.

Look at his actions since his inauguration. Look at his executive orders. He's never once made one slight remark against Islamists.

I know some of you are going to paste some quotes of radical Islamists who rip Obama. Well, there's something called teqiya(sic). Lying to infidels to advance the cause of Islam.

Even Castro, I believe, scaled back his praise of Hussein Obama so as to not give him away.

There's a common thread through all of Obama's contacts and it's Islam.

Perhaps when he was on ABC last year "My Muslim faith" wasn't a slip of the tongue. Maybe just a sign of who he really is.

Either a progressive or an Islamists, both are going to destroy our country if this goes unchecked.

But the war has reached our shores. For months many believed this administration will cause a civil war of some kind. I don't believe so. I believe it will be more a War of 1812.

The enemy here on our streets burning down our cities.

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163 President Barack Obama is fully committed to complete and total victory for the enemies of the United States of America and her closest allies. 

Once you understand this, everything that he is doing which initially seems so strange and confusing becomes crystal clear.

The American people were suckered into putting a Marxist 5th columnist in the white house.  Millions will die because our electorate was lied to. 

But rest assured that the chickens will come home to roost.  The American people don't like being lied to.  We don't like being conned.  We remember and we punish those who betray us. 

164 xpost from Blackfive too

Remember Obama isn't concerned about victory in Afghanistan, he is looking for a tactical win on Obamacare, a stalemate in 2010, and victory in 2012.

Until Obamacare is dealt with, maintaining tenuous alliances with the "progressives" is more important then tenuous alliances in remote Afghan valleys. To his "progressive" allies this dithering looks "thoughtful" and "considered" -- maybe he will have some more meetings.

His decisions on Afghanistan will only have a marginal effect on the 2010 elections, unless they are disastrous or depress the "progressive" turn-out. Our troops are not going to let a disaster happen - so his safe play is to dither.

Dithering, however, makes an 2011 victorious exit strategy dicey and threatens his 2012 re-election chances, so expect some movement after the Obamacare cloture vote in the Senate. If Obamacare goes down (or gets delayed) - then things get interesting: a victory on Obamacare allows him to essentially ignore Afghanistan with the progressives and allow the process answer to go forwards, a loss on Obamacare means he will need a new horse fast. He can jump on a green (red) horse and ride to the left on Cap&tax; or head to the center - which would include victory in Afghanistan.

Going to go dither myself back to sleep.

165 54

As per Joe Biden, my former State Senator:

"Not long after he takes office there will be an international incident started by someone to see if he has a spine. And they're going to find out he has steel in his spine." 

Like when I flew too close to a communications tower over Afghanistan. Found out that wasn't a fiberglass plate under my plugs

166 I have seen a hot dog stand
I have seen a rubber band
I have seen just about everything
but i aint never seen jug ears fly

167 New strategy in A-stan
Send over Joe's limo service to run all those F|_|cker down

168 Stop complaining about Obama. At least he is present.

169

I never believed Obama for a minute when he said he would fight a war in afghan.  Anyone that thought that Barack HUSSEIN Obama would lead a fight against  muslims  was living in a dream world. Any promises  he made about this part of the war  have turned out to be meaningless. I predict that alquida  will own Afghanistan  in 6 months.

This is not ,in ANY way, the fault of our Military. This loss in the WOT  rests  directly on the freakin pinhead of Barack HUSSEIN Obama. Seems to me  afghan was pretty quiet when George Bush left the white House. Now its a "disaster". Get ready  for  pics  from Pravda showing American convoys  leaving  Afghanistan . This war against  Islamic jihaddis  isnt  over  yet.  Its a loss that should never  have  happened  and  this will come back to haunt us.

God bless our TROOPS!

170

Truly not sure if his "plan" is (1) he really doesn't have a plan, he's dithering, terrified of making a decision because he knows how real the stakes are. He knows the hard left, his base, will bitch about any more military committment and he cannot afford to lose them before at least the healthcare vote. So he fiddles, hoping to buy time. Basically he's in over his head and knows it but doen't know how to get ouit of this situation.

Or,

(2) This is part of a grand scheme wher he never really intended to committ more troops, he really could care less about what he may have said, about our troops, etc. He's cynically waiting, pretending he doesn't want to hastily jump into a quagmire without being "presidential", and biding his time until the best political opportunity for him to pull the trigger and simply "bring our troops home where they should have been all along, not part of Bush's feckless miltary adventures." That he simply cannot commit any longer to our troops dying needlessly for a war Bush started and that he inherited.

Kind of the same thing with the liberals. They could never make up their minds if Bush was Cheyney's mindless puppet or if he was the Darth Vader master conspirator of the modern world.

I opt for (1) as the more likely situation. He's over his head and is trying to find a way out that extracts no political price.Making the tough decisions is a little harder than sitting around bitching about and undercutting the other guy isn't it.

And, BTW, where are the Republicans? Why aren't they putting on some heat? I know they are busy with healthcare, but the Democrats managed to fight Bush savagely on every single thing he did.

171
The strongest video clips I have ever seen and they are from his own mouth¦
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#...

172 In Obama we have a truly historic administration that has managed to seamlessly blend the flaccid foreign policy incompetence of Carter with the military micro-management of LBJ, the arrogant, power-grabbing, corruption of Clinton, and the paranoia of Nixon.

And it hasn't even been a year yet.

G*d help us!

173 In Obama we have ... the paranoia of Nixon.

recant, um, er, retract that on air tomorrow or we will have to excommunicate fire you

174 Yep, slouching toward Gamora, oblivion, hades, communism, brimstone, annihilation, mailaise & sharia law.

175 @ 173

LOL!

176 174 Yep, slouching toward Gamora, oblivion, hades, communism, brimstone, annihilation, mailaise & sharia law.

Posted by: borked at November 12, 2009 07:20 AM (pr+up)

The only thing I'm thankful for is that it's driven me to drink!

177

The only thing I'm thankful for is that it's driven me to drink!

Me too!

178 Here's what Rudin said:

"Well, it's not only aggressive, it's almost Nixonesque. I mean, you think of what Nixon and Agnew did with their enemies list and their attacks on the media; certainly Vice President Agnew's constant denunciation of the media. Of course, then it was a conservative president denouncing a liberal media, and of course, a lot of good liberals said, 'Oh, that's ridiculous. That's an infringement on the freedom of press.' And now you see a lot of liberals almost kind of applauding what the White House is doing to Fox News, which I think is distressing."

Full story

179 177

The only thing I'm thankful for is that it's driven me to drink!

Me too!

Posted by: D Hasselhoff at November 12, 2009 07:27 AM (pr+up)

C'mon, I'll buy you a hamburger...

180 Obama is a democrat and democrats do not defend the USA.  A majority of the voters decided, in a time of war, to elect someone who, anyone in their right mind knew, would not defend the USA.  Bottom line?  The rest of the USA that wants this country to survive, better find another way of protecting it.

181

182 He is actually on the other side!  How long will it take for anyone to notice?

183 He is actually on the other side! How long will it take for anyone to notice?

I had a vague notion last fall.

184 @ 79 If Bush was a cowboy, then Obama is a rodeo clown.

That right there is prime bumper sticker material if it ain't already one, Pizza. Outstanding.

185 After the 2010 election, impeachment for the high crime of treason.

186 171 - a friend sent me that video last night it must be going around the internet. We (the ones who did not vote for him) knew this and recognized him for what he is but he was only seen as a black man for most and that got him elected. I don't mean for this to sound racist but it is the truth. So many were blinded by white guilt and he was the only way for the progressives (socialists) to get their foot in the door of the White House. It didn't take much to do some research - it was all out there but so many just did not want to see it for what it was - and now America is suffering.

I pray for our soldiers around the world and for this country. I truly believe he is siding with the muslims. There is a time in your life when you are truly swayed especially when you are young and that time for him I believe was when he was a child introduced to islam. It stayed in his heart and he can say whatever he wants (he lies) but his heart lives in islam.

187 Hey, what's Russia's interest in Afghanistan these days, if any?

188 187 Hey, what's Russia's interest in Afghanistan these days, if any?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 12, 2009 08:00 AM (OkT2m)

Payback.  U.S. humiliation in Afghanistan would go a long way towards raising Soviet Russian national pride and would divert attention from Putin and Co's thieving.

189 Tom Blumer at NewsBusters brings some snark.  The forbidden word!

190

Just when I thought he couldn't piss me off any worse . . .

191 So, when was the last time the armed forces of the United States was in open revolt against the commander-in-chief?

192
Question:   Can I say to Obama,

Heck of a job there Brownie!

Or would that be racist?

193 @ 23 May the worm of conscience gnaw his soul.

Not possible - preznit Eejit is possessed of neither.

194 @ 37 I'm still trying to figure out how a charlaton with zero military experience gets to call the shots. It's not right.

Who you tellin'?

195 If you have no use for the army, Barry, I should like to borrow it for a while.

196 Hey stop dissing my Obama. So he never served or ever cared about the Military, I heard he stayed at a Navy Lodge once?

197 191 So, when was the last time the armed forces of the United States was in open revolt against the commander-in-chief?

Posted by: V65 Fan at November 12, 2009 08:11 AM (xNNYf)

I'm not really sure that that is what's happening now, but I believe the correct answer to your question would be the Whiskey Rebellion of 1794.

It didn't last very long...

198 Those of us old enough to remember how LBJ micro-managed Vietnam into a defeat are getting a strong sense of deja vu with this spineless worm.

199 198 Those of us old enough to remember how LBJ micro-managed Vietnam into a defeat are getting a strong sense of deja vu with this spineless worm.

Posted by: Angus Dei at November 12, 2009 08:22 AM (WAI6U)

Yes, the similarities are breathtaking- in fact I'm almost convinced that the election of 2012 is going to be a replay of the election of 1968 with Hillary Clinton, due to her mastery of triangulation,  playing the parts of BOTH Eugene McCarthy and Hubert Humphrey to Obama's LBJ.

It'll be great fun to watch if the economy doesn't completely collapse first...

200 I have no sophisticated poll on how the Military Feel, but I can tell you that many of the enlisted in my Medical Unit have been asking me what I think because it could be our collective asses being called up if alot of additional troops are deployed. And they are lets say "concerned" that no one seems to know what is going on?

201 You just take your time Mr. President. There's no rush. - Colin Powell 11/12/09

202 You just take your time Mr. President. There's no rush. - Colin Powell 11/12/09
Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 12, 2009 08:38 AM (EL+OC)

hey Colin we haven't heard much from you lately? Lets keep it that way you disloyal asshole!

203 171

that's scary as hell

204 Bring our boys and girls home, there is no sense in continuing. 

205

2 - Who's the Cowboy now??

More appropriate words have never been written (or typed).

206

This will be known as DUUH WON's Viet Nam. He wants to get out now and those who have helped the U.S. will die a miserable death by the thousands and it will still be Bush's fault.

207 Oh, I see..

Now, he's under the wing of Uncle Colin.

Ain't that precious.

208

Well well well.

The military was willing to play live and let live with Obama. Between his refusal to admit that the Fort Hood shooting was Muslim terrorism, the ongoing Afghanistan problem, and now this, he's going to have a very large majority of the US military no longer believing that the National Command Authority has their best interest at heart. I cannot and will not predict the short term effect of that, but long term is nothing good. We're already a statistical minority in American society, and when you get an angry isolated minority with all the major weapons systems, you get the Praetorian Guard. Not good for the survival of the Republic, but depending on who is making the decisions, might be necessary for the survival of the people so we can later re-establish a Republic.

Remember a month ago when I said I would support Petraeus in 2010, and everyone jumped my shit for "talking unconstitutionally", and I said that it might be necessary by '10? Uh, yeah, how's that prediction looking now? In 2010 we'll be lucky if something really big and Muslim-made hasn't blown up on our shores, and I'll open the betting now on the date of the last helicopter out of Kabul.

My only question now is will it be better for McChrystal to stay in place or make a principled resignation.

 

 

209 I'll open the betting now on the date of the last helicopter out of Kabul.

11-3-10.

210

Welcome to Viet Nam II, the sequel.

Buck Ofama, and all his Islamic terrorist friends.

211

FYBO

Obama is temporizing in hopes that there will be some military disaster in Afghanistan.  Some awful loss of American life he can use to whip up a wave of public dismay.  Something he can use to "respond" to public demands, that will be conveniently forthcoming, that we pull out.  It is difficult for me to fully express my disgust with this man, and with the political forces that saddled us with him.

FYBO

212 Read The Man Who Despises America in the lastest American Spectator.

213 Didn't see this on the national broadcasts, but yesterday the local news interviewed the family of the soldier who was missing that they found in the river in Afghanistan. His mother had a statement she read directed to the president. It was simply please make a decission. Too bad Obama will never have to answer to it.

214

I am going to guess that McChrystal's closest 50 team members average 20 years of service, for a combined 1000 years of dedicated, focused, almost obsessive attention to the details of warfighting.  The Dilletante-in-Chief is going to pull out his Lecturer's red pencil and correct their work?

Jimbo is right about the fixers, who are clearly telling Obama that he can't make pass healthcare if he makes this decision.  If he does what he really wants, the re-branded cut and run of Sheriff Joe Biden, conservatives and independents will go berserk on the Blue Dogs and they will kill #hcr to save their seats.

Gen McChrystal made a request;  Obama has responded.  I would love to see Gen McChrystal turn this request back around in 24 hours.

215 5 Re: "Make the call!"

His call is that Islam should win. He's just trying to figure out how to make that happen.

Agree 100%

He is Anti-American and is working for the destruction of our nation.

How long after the next attack before he surrenders? A month? A week? A day? Immediately? Because you know that's the plan. Surrender to Islam and all will be well.

216 No one will ever convince me that he is not a closet Muslim. Hes's definitely an out of the closet Muslim sympathizer.

217

LBJ didn't manage to achieve defeat in Vietnam, that took the spineless Democratic Congress to leave the Vietnamese without supplies and air cover when they were invaded from the North.

Rot in hell, Senator Church and your ilk.  I hope every one of the thousands of American dead you ensured died in vain, and every one of the millions of Vietnamese you abandoned to the enemy torment you forever. 

Save a spot for Bambi, would you?

218

The explaination is obvious: Europe can't afford a strong military and now we can't either. Making a commitment would mean more guns and less butter for lazy Democrats.

It occured to me that this might very well be the primary reason Obama's dicking around on this--let's face it, we are right on the cusp of going over the debt ceiling, and the situation is not getting any better.  Cash 4 Home Clunkers was both extended AND expanded to second-time buyers, states are bleeding tax revenue like an anemic at a vampire convention, unemployment bennies were extended to two years, his advisors are telling him to pass a second "stimulus" next year (although it won't be called that), and he's getting ready to pass a health care bill that will put an even greater financial burden on the country.

Obama needs to shit or get off the pot, but financially, he's in a bind.  Sending more troops to Afghanistan for an Iraq-type strategy would almost certainly push the nation's debt over the ceiling, but then again, so would pulling out--it costs A LOT of money to shut down an American military base, and just closing our operations in the Afghan bases and Manas AB alone could run into the tens of billions.  Granted, Congress could raise the ceiling and he could make that final decision, but there's already a lot of bad will being generated by all the deficit spending, and doing so would likely lose the Dems the House and even the Senate.

So President Waffle kicks the can down the road and hopes for a Hail Mary of some sort so he doesn't have to make a hard decision and potentially send his ratings even lower.  I agree with the assessment that if an option existed that only pissed off conservative Republicans he'd take it, but such an option doesn't exist.

219 Once again, the O has voted "present".

220 Obama sucks cock

221 137 Make a decision or get off me.

Corrected:
Unleash the Kraken or get off me.

222 اغاني العاب منتديات تامر حسني راشد الماجد خالد عبدالرحمن اغاني فيديو اغاني تامر حسني اغاني راشد الماجد اغاني خالد عبدالرحمن بنات عالم حواء افلام اغاني سعوديه اغاني كويتيه اغاني اماراتيه اغاني مصريه اغاني لبنانيه اغاني عراقيه اغاني عربيه اغاني اجنبيه

223 Americans go to war to win, democrats follow, looking for a time and place to surrender.

224 No two ways about it, Barry is going to surrender.

225 I think it's time for top generals like McCrystal and Petreus to start resigning.  Once out, they can speak freely about what a Douchebag-in-Chief we have.

226

Our 'worst fears', huh?  I see and hear people trying to pretend that they were giving The Obamunist the benefit of the doubt and I just don't get it. 

 

Why?  He didn't deserve the benefit of the doubt eighteen months ago and he doesn't deserve now.  This man, this person, is a low-life, socialist, marxist scumbag.  Always has been always will be.  Period.

 

The people on the 'right' have seen it all along.  The people on the far left have seen it all along.  The left-wingnuts knew who and what he was from the get-go and they LOVE him for it.  True Conservatives knew what and who he was from the get.

 

The people in between?  I call them sheeple.  They're just too stupid or too lazy to think for themselves.  All the evidence was there.  His Mother, his father, Frank Marshall Davis, his grandfather, the Right On Right Reverend Right On Wright, Bill Ayers, Bernie Dorhn -- Dozens more.  It was all laid out for them.  Right there, in front of thier eyes.  All they had to do was look.

 

And yeah, we can shift blame and say it was the LSM's fault but that's bullshit.  Anybody with access to a computer, anybody with Cable TV, anybody capable of locating Fox News with their remote control, anybody that had a friend, co-worker, relative -- Whatever -- Who KNEW about this dirtbag had every opportunity to learn about this guy.

 

But they either chose not to or were just too stupid to believe the truth.  I've said it before on this board, the American People deserve this guy.  The American People deserve the Government they're getting right now.  We deserve to be led down the primrose path, oblivious to the destruction these marxist dirtbags are causing.

 

When 53% of the American People are so stupid, so naive, so intellectually lazy to vote for a dirtbag like we've got now?  Fuck 'em.  They deserve it.

 

And you know what else?  I think he's got a good chance at being re-elected.  Yes, Virginia.  Wake up, the American People really are that stupid.

 

Another war the democrats will run away from.  And another group of people that will have been stabbed in the back by democrats.  An entire region -- Gone.  And, oh?  They'll balme it on Bush while dodging thier own culpability and responsibility.  They always have.  They always will.

 

And the 'sheeple' will buy it lock, stock and barrel.  Especially with the LSM running interference for them.  They always do.  Wonder when the first TV special will come out blaming Bush for all this? 

 

Oh well, just remember, "He Who Tells The People What To Think Does Not Need To Be King."

227 http://tinyurl.com/yahntt7

So now Colin Powell is giving Jugears advice on Af-Pak: dither all you want, it's for the best.

That explains a lot...

228 Democrats love to hide as Republicans - thus RINOs (Republican In Name Only).

ObaMao has just proved that he is a CICINO (Commander-In-Chief In Name Only).

Hasn't he done something, _anything_, we can impeach him for yet?

What a maroon - and 52% of America were blind lemmings over the cliff.

Heh - America is now what the Godfather movies would have been like if Frido (Fredo?) had become Godfather, instead of Michael.

229 I say we have a meeting to discuss and schedule future meetings on this subject.  I expect a vey robust debate on the dates available, and who we may ask to attend.

230

What about the story run by the AP this morning?  Says Karl Eikenberry, U.S. ambassador in Kabul, is a former Army general who commanded troops in Afghanistan.  Has the ear of He-Who-Votes-Present..."questions the wisdom" of increasing U.S. presence due to unstable Afghan political situation.  It says he has been involved in the War Room discussions, and indicates he may have had influence on the latest INdecision.

How close is Eikenberry to Obama?  Why is he in opposition to Generals McChrystal and Petraeus? Can we get an update/more info on this?  Uncle Jimbo?

complete article here:  http://tinyurl.com/yzr4lzr

231

As a former officer of the PPCLI,i'm glad that i've missed Afghanistan.How can you lead men on a hill fight,and then give back after death and casualties.Plus, not having the proper support,plus not having occupational support.

Remember Joe Clemons,the unfortunate commander in charge of storming Pork Chop Hill,resulting in needless casualties in that dreadful war in Korea.Then,the aweful shit sandwich,he was served in Vietnam.He was a true hero that was abused by politicians.

You folks have a Precendent and Coward in Chief,that belongs in the Hall of Shame.

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Wasn't that the bill of sale we were promised? That he could get more help from Europe?

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