1 Johnny Mac we hardly know ye.

2 By the way, he's still alive, so if he had been elected we would not yet have to face the fear of having an inexperienced person assuming the presidency.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Yes we have. His name is Obama.

3 Good for McCain, but then, since he's not running for President and doesn't have to make sure the media loves him, he can say stuff like that now.  Had he said it during his campaign, he might be President today.

4 I don't think that's quite fair to say. This is the only issue where he hasn't pissed me off.

5

Yeah we sure dodged a bullet with that Palin character didn't we?

6 Meggie Mac won't be happy :-(

7 >>
Yes we have. His name is Obama.

That was my point. That's why I said "person" not "woman."

8 Scared me with that headline.

@2 I think you missed the snark.

9 That was my point. That's why I said "person" not "woman."

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2009 06:01 PM (jlvw3)

How dare you imply women are not real persons!

10 By the way, he's still alive, so if he had been elected we would not yet have to face the fear of having an inexperienced person assuming the presidency.

I would say to Maj. Hasan's doctors simply this.  "Get that fucker breathing so I can string him up by his balls.  You betcha!"

11 So is this the first confirmed difference between McCain and Obama? I'm sure there have to be others, just none come to me right now.

12
Besides lobbying for a bill of rights for Al Qaeda, McCain was always strongest in this area.

13 So is this the first confirmed difference between McCain and Obama? I'm sure there have to be others, just none come to me right now.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at November 11, 2009 06:05 PM (H7Rlw)

Well, I think McCain is a Presbyterian.

14

Obama told us that he'd stand with "the Muslims".   Why are we surprised at all?

I'm serious.

15

My brother in law and I got in an argument last night about McCain. I reminded him that I thought early on that the base wouldn't come out for McCain. He said that he is "the base" and that I am not the base. We both voted for McCain so the turn out portion is hypothetical. I said that I had to hold my nose and vote against Obama while he actually liked McCain. He is an ex hippie atheist architect guitar player who appreciates art and music. I am a Reagan formed conservative music shunning, blog reading, american car owning, flag waving liberal hating carnivore.

I am the base and the base did not like McCain.

But at least he wasn't Obama

16 Don't get cocky. Some Lefty will get next to him and whisper his control word. Then he'll be back to stroking the WH.

17

"By the way, he's still alive, so if he had been elected we would not yet have to face the fear of having an inexperienced person assuming the presidency."

In 2012, I hope John McCain, even though not running for presidency, buys a 30-minute chunk of primtime for a little infomercial.  It could be toted as a huge, final, tell-all about the frank, honest truth about Trig Palin's true mother.

Then, when you tuned in, there would be a rather brief introductory graphic.  The next 10-15 minutes of the infomercial will be a montage of every talking-head that uttered the phrase "heartbeat away from the Presidency" in hopes of generating fear of Sarah Palin.

After this, McCain will meander out onto a nondescript stage, look into the camera, and proclaim, "My friends, I'm still alive.  To all those who worried four years ago about my certain and impending demise......fuck you."

He would then give the camera the "double deuce."

Whatever amount of time remained for his half-hour spot would be filled simply with him standing there, holding out his two extended middle fingers, laughing.

The final two seconds would be a quick cut to Sarah Palin, holding Trig, shouting, "He's still really mine!" *wink*

18 i applaud mccain for saying this. i heard a news clip this afternoon of his calm strong voice saying 'political correctness should never impede national security.'
how tragic and unfair that the pos hussein in the whitehouse now, believes just the opposite.

19 Dagny, you are correct either way.  If he is the base.  The base did not come out to vote for McCain.  If you are the base "ditto".  Logically, you are the base, as McCain did not bring people out, and your B-I-L voted for him gladly.

20

“We ought to make sure ‘political correctness’ never impedes national security,” McCain said..."

John, see this here barn door swinging wide open?  Now let me direct your attention to that disappearing cloud of dust on the horizon.  That is the fucking horse you speak of, and one you have ridden a time or two, you twit.

21 "By the way, he's still alive, so if he had been elected we would not yet have to face the fear of having an inexperienced person assuming the presidency."

HA...must be a slow day, but I found that exceptionally funny....or disturbing,,,,

Anybody see Mobama and Dr. Biden yukkin' it up at the wreath laying ceremony this morning?  Too bad somebody's rifle butt didn't 'accidentally' slip and knock their teeth out.

22 Does anyone remember few months ago that the Obama administration sent memos to the Pentagon and the intelligence community not to use such terms as not to offend our Muslim "friends"??!

23 Fast aside, I think I may have figured out why Obama won the Nobel - it was his executive order shutting down Gitmo, right?

No, wait...

24 Less than 9 months=terrorism in the homeland=Obama

25 Slightly off topic, but I would like to give congrats to Ace for his mention in today's 'Best of the Web". Seriously dude, you can express your thoughts well.

26 faith based violence

27
John McCain is an aging politician who has spent the majority of his adult life in Congress serving the American people.  Senator McCain has reached a point in life where his mental acuity leaves something to be desired, and I dismiss and challenge Senator McCains assertion that the Ft. Hood tragedy was a result of Islamic terrorism. 

My administration will leave this matter to the police for proper disposition, just as it should be.  We will handle this mentally challenged person the way we do all other mentally challenged, and this could mean psychiatric confinement until he demonstrates his ability to act rational, and at that time he will be considered for release.

28 The horrible thing about a McCain victory wouldn't have been Palin as VP, but a white guy as President!

29 McLame is up in 2010....wind blowing
which way should he go



Glenn Beck had a show today that spelled out Obama and Hassan to a T.

Hassan guilty of Islamic terrorism.
Obama gives shout out to his buds and gives a
Van Jones speech for the American Indians.

You reach your own conclusions.
TREASON
IMPEACH

30 the jihadis are reading o's groveling to Islam as a go-ahead to 'allah akbar,' w/abandon. it doesn't take much to set them off. o has rolled out a red carpet for them w/ his bullshit: like how the United states is the 2nd largest moslem country in the world.
wtf, they own this place. they may as well act like it.

31

Anyone else have the thought that maybe they were hoping that, once deployed to A-stan, Hassan might just go AWOL one night, defect to the "other side," and simply never be heard from again?

A very Milton Waddams hope, that you can just "fix the glitch," and everything else will just work itself out...but is it plausible?

32 Eh guys where do I fit into all this?

33 John McCain? Who's that?

34 "it's not clear he was crazy at all, at least not in medical terms."

I believe the term your looking for is meshugana. Got it, bubke?

35 Now this Hasan guy had balls, unlike me I just got others to do the exploding and they turned out to be freakin morons.

36
Joe Biden limo runs over man and kills him, but the dork wasn't in the car. 

-Fox News

37 I just hope the political process doesn't interfere with the military process and this muslin idjiot gets his 72 raisins as quickly as possible.

38 Promoting people up and out of the way is not a new practice in either the Military or Civilian worlds.....

39 i hate that hasan is still alive.

40 way to stick your finger in the wind, Mac

41 I wasn't too pleased with the choices on election day either.  We had to choose from two Democrats/leftists.  But I held my nose and voted for McCain anyway because I figured he was the lesser of two evils.

To Republicans who didn't go to the polls and vote for McCain "in protest" - I call bullshit!  If that was you, in essence, you helped vote obama in.

A lesson for the future.

That being said, I too was shocked at what McCain said.  All I can figure is that he plans to run again in 2010 and is starting to pander to the people he previously referred to in not quite flattering terms - the republican base.

42
Watching Obama at the Tomb of the Unknown placing the sacred wreath is gut wrenching and deserving of a puke fest.  He wouldn't make a dollop of smegma on a First Sergeants dick. 

43 Ditto Fish. It just felt wrong to see Obama and Mooschelle there.

44  My Friends ....

{ed: scene of unimaginable violence redacted}

45 "Whatever amount of time remained for his half-hour spot would be filled simply with him standing there, holding out his two extended middle fingers, laughing." 
- Reason

I love the idea!  However, with my luck, McCain, while laughing and deucing us, would stroke out and croak on national TV, rendering the point moot before I got a chance to gloat.

46

And who would have squealed the loudest if the FBI or the military would have investigated the piece of crap?  The Dems or the Repubs? 

The Dems would have eviserated anyone who would have attempted this.

Just like they screamed bloody murder about the heartlessness of the Republicans who sought to cut Medicare by a paultry $90 billion.  Now that the Dems are proposing to cut medicare by 30 times that amount, it is suddenly the generous and caring thing to do.

47 #42 that would've cut into his golf day. Thank Allah it was raining so he wasn't put out.... he just rescheduled to tomorrow. Cancelled that Afghan troop policy meeting

48 o said the military shows us the way at a time of selfishness, division and cynicism in our country. the first part of the statement is the throwaway phrase. he was bullshitting just to get to the ugly nouns to describe what he thinks of America.
he is a sneaky lowlife pos.
i hope the troops remember when he said they were air raiding villages and killing civilians and terrorizing iraqi women and children in the dead of night.

49 Exclusive photos: First look inside accused Fort Hood gunman's apartment

50 Seriously dude, you can express your thoughts well.

Posted by: 141 Driver at November 11, 2009 06:17 PM (LEynS)

I heartily agree. There is nothing quite like Ace and his minions.

51 >> Posted by: reason at November 11, 2009 06:10 PM (kZVsz)

Sadly, it'll probably be:

HEADLINE, 2012:
McCain: "We did alright"
Arizona (AP) Ousted in 2010, fmr. Senator McCain spoke from his retirement home in AZ, reassuring the nation that Obama has done a fine job and saying he looks forward to 4 more years.

52 Presidential Quiz

1.) If Nidal wasn't a terrorist bent on completing Jihad how would his actions be different?

Show your work.

53
Typical terrorist recreational venue. 

54 30

I think it would be awesome if Hasan wakes up and says that Obama's speech in Cairo, where he basically said Muslims invented everything good and true, was what finally made him commit to his own jihad, since it showed just how worthless the infidel is.

55 Crap. There are agents of the White House, calling themselves something else--perhaps members of the defense team, right now telling Major Jidad that he will not get the death penalty if he makes sure to blame his outburst on harrassment, the army, the horrible stories of war and not say that it was a holy jihad.

56 But my actuarial tables! How could they steer me wrong? It's science!

57 At least in these pussy Army officers we have some contestants for the premiere episode of Junk-Punching: Ultimate Beatdown!

58 McCain who?

59

Mental? His actions were perfectly rational within the context of Islam. His rationale of comparing himself to a heroic soldier throwing himself on a grenade to save his fellow soldiers, is not the senseless raving of a mad man. He wanted to kill Americans and forfeit his own life to save the lives of his fellow Muslims. That's why he is a huge hero to every jihadi on the planet. He massacred 42 American soldiers single-handedly - and fucking lived! He is a real live fucking hero to every fucking Muslim terrorist on the planet. The guy is ten feet tall to them! Mental? Are you nuts?

As far as the jihadi's are concerned, his behavior was in no way some kind of crazy embarrassment. He wasn't "mental" to them. His actions were some of the most selfless, courageous, and extremely heroic behavior imaginable to them. He was a one man flaming jihad! A towering whirlwind of fiery destruction against the infidel, as far they're concerned.

So, what do we do with him? If we make too big a deal out of him, that just furthers the glory of his story, and the jihadi's get an even bigger myth to use for recruiting purposes. He needs to disappear as quietly as possible. And America needs to pull its head out of its ass. That Clinton era ban on concealed carry needs to go down the shitter. It didn't even slow down Hasan, but it sure made killing easy for him - just as it was supposed to do. Fuck you, Bill Clinton. Now there's a man who should be buried in bacon.  How do you like your dead soldiers, Billy boy?

60 O/T Lou Dobbs to quit CNN. Drudge.

61 Were I to speak truthfully, I would say I am an anti-American asshole.

62 Heads need to roll for this.

63 If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.......It must be a wombat.

64

How dare you imply women are not real persons!

Posted by: Sally K. at November 11, 2009 06:03 PM (LS0aj)

that time of the month? yeah, I went there.

65 As I understand it, tonight (on Shep Smith's show) Fox news is reporting that authorities have found prescription medication for HIV in Hasan's apartment  - why would he be taking such medication?  Could he have had a medical problem and wanted to go out in a blaze of glory and wanted to be shot and killed -- because he thought he might die soon of other causes?

66 Walter Reed knew in 2005 when he was  a Capt,. a returning Army NG reported him to the Provost at WR, filled out the complaint form.  Was told by the Capt that his wife should be a widow and his children orphans becuase he killed muslems. 

67 And yet, Rule 1 -- do not make waves regarding obviously jihadist Muslims -- still prevailed.

WTF? Who's been re-writing the handbook?

68 Walter Reed? Never heard of him.

69 Props to Lieberman too. I hope he does his investigation as this simply should not have happened.  Prayers for the families.

70 Mccain  - Even a retarded squirrel finds the nut sometimes ......

PS Lou dobbs quitting CNN
http://tiny.cc/kQx8k

71 55 Crap. There are agents of the White House, calling themselves something else--perhaps members of the defense team, right now telling Major Jidad that he will not get the death penalty if he makes sure to blame his outburst on harrassment, the army, the horrible stories of war and not say that it was a holy jihad. Posted by: Dagny

I think this clown is going to admit he did this for Jihad, like some of those others did after 9/11.   He wants to die to get his reward.

The real question is: Should we grant him his reward, or allow him to be brutalized in prison (which he may actually like) for life?

72 Yeah, good for McCain, or his aide that triangulates everything and decides what positions the Senator should take.  Whichever.

73 this wasn't terror: it was plain old murderous treason.

conduct the Art. 32, hold the court martial, then execute his sorry ass, and fuck what all the PC bedwetter's say.

74 I don't think that terror is the correct word, but that is semantics. Jihad and treason fit just fine.

i hate that hasan is still alive.

I want the POS to have a staring contest with Kimberly Munson.

75 73 this wasn't terror: it was plain old murderous treason.

conduct the Art. 32, hold the court martial, then execute his sorry ass, and fuck what all the PC bedwetter's say.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 11, 2009 07:28 PM (d1FhN)

your insights both amaze, and intrigue me. may I subscribe to your newsletter?

76

 McCain is working with Obama. This is just another softball lob for Gibbsy to smack over the wall. Allowing the Half-White House to take the sheeples' attention off of the real enemy and focus on everyone who believes what McCain just said. I can hear it now, "He's just pissed that a black man took his job. He's a Republican, duh! See, they really are just shallow, knuckle-draggin' racists like we suspected. They're not nearly as sophisticated and tolerant as us. Next they'll be blaming illegal immigrants for crime and the lack of factory jobs..."

 

 

Anybody got a link to Alex Jones' blog?

77 If these fuckers would experience some real USA backlash, this shit might stop.

78 I am just catching up with posts and wanted to send a Veteran's day thank you to all of you moron service men and women.

79

Contrary to popular belief (not here perhaps, but generally) this is not the first time Aemrica has faced suicidal fanatics. Japanese kamikazes willfully slammed theri airplanes into American warships causing thousands of deaths. And it is arguable that the kamikazes weer more honorable than this current wave of suicidal fanatics because the Japanese chose miltary targets. Targets capable of defending themselves. These bastards choose unarmed, defenseless targets.

Bottom line is we ended up nuking the Japanese. Meaning that when we get fed up enough we cut through the bullshit and stomp your ass. Islam take heed.

80 77 If these fuckers would experience some real USA backlash, this shit might stop.

Posted by: kansas at November 11, 2009 07:30 PM (ynT/h)

I often wonder what the body count from Islamic terrorism would have to be in order for that to happen?

81 77 If these fuckers would experience some real USA backlash, this shit might stop. Posted by: kansas

Thats what I said....

82

I need spellcheck.

Sheesh.

83 Thanks, Trish. 

We do it for fine folks like yourself.

84 I wonder if this paves the way for Dobbs to FOX?

85

WaPo and CNN caught in jihadi lies. The ghost of Maureen Dowd lives lies on.

86 FOX: Please fire Shep and give his slot to Dobbs.  Also, fire Geraldo's nose too please.

87 86 FOX: Please fire Shep and give his slot to Dobbs.  Also, fire bust Geraldo's nose too please.

Posted by: kefka at November 11, 2009 07:37 PM (n1uMU)

FIFY

88

I often wonder what the body count from Islamic terrorism would have to be in order for that to happen?

Posted by: ...Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage

I guess they would have to actually call it Islamic terrorism instead of dicking around. Plus, if someone spray painted something rude on some Mosque it would be portrayed as being worse than killing 3000 people on 9/11.

 

89 FOX: Please fire Shep and give his slot to Dobbs.  Also, fire Geraldo's nose too please.


+1

90
80 77 If these fuckers would experience some real USA backlash, this shit might stop.

Posted by: kansas at November 11, 2009 07:30 PM (ynT/h)

I often wonder what the body count from Islamic terrorism would have to be in order for that to happen?


Pretty fuckin' high,  apparently.

I'm getting sick of these islamo bitches whining about what might happen instead of talking about shit that did happen.

They keep changing the subject and the idiots in the media don't even realize it.

91 Anybody hear anything about the right wing anti-abortion people and their shooting up that clinic?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

92 Any of you moron's (maroon's) want to help me poke my local newspaper editor?  I was minding my own business when I received this twitter from them:

@lcdonline Another Fox News "mistake" http://tinyurl.com/ybroj2x

The link in the twitter led to a brief entry by the paper's editor:

Another example of Fox News lying to an American public all too eager to accept what the network is sellin' as "news" and not the blatant propaganda it is.

Then it included a link to mediamatters.org.

http://tinyurl.com/ybroj2x

It completely ticked me off that my local newspaper was twittering me about this and dissing anyone that watches Fox News.  Come on...register and poke this guy!

I'll buy the next round....

93 hey McCain, tell us something we don't know, and cc the fucking memo to BO.

94

' often wonder what the body count from Islamic terrorism would have to be in order for that to happen?


Pretty fuckin' high,  apparently.'

 

More than 3,000?

95 This was not an actof terror.  It was a treasonous act. 

96 Bacon.  That's your answer.

97 OT I was just reading a comment on another blog and I wanted to reply to the guy to tell him he was a douche.You can't do that there though.AOSHQ rules!

98

A nice lady noticed my husband's Powerline t-shirt while we were buying him suits this weekend. She asked him what blogs he read. Turns out she is one of Michelle Malkin's good friends. He waited till we left the mall to tell me because he knew I would leap over tie tables to tell her to tell Michelle to do something about Allahpundit. Thankfully Hot Air has had a virus so I've been able to go cold turkey. Shep hasn't quite reached that level of irritation yet but Geraldo is way past it.

99 TREASON - This word imports a betraying, treachery, or breach of allegiance.

The Constitution of the United States, Art. III, defines treason against the United States to consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid or comfort. This offence is punished with death. By the same article of the Constitution, no person shall be convicted of treason, unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

100 After all his spouting off pre jihadist attack, do we even discuss sedition anymore or did Woodrow Wilson ruin that for us?

101 Personally, I think this just goes to show what a crock of shit most "psychiatric" medicine is.

Look, his superiors, psychiatrists themselves, saw him exhibiting classic symptoms of "lone gunmen" and saw anti-social behavior, and didn't just fail to make a diagnosis, they promoted him, with the knowledge that he would be providing mental health care to soldiers.

If they can't spot some pretty obvious stuff at a minor level, what good are they?

102 I think Geraldo must be kind of the house liberal over at Fox.  Keeping it real for the peeps, you know?

Hey, speaking of Fox, is anyone else annoyed by the trend there of referring to events "going down?"  It's like they've seen too many NYPD Blue reruns.

103

since this was a treasonous act  it would be logical to then say All jahidist that seek the overthrow of the USa government and to install a theology government in its place that reside within the USa are traitors to the USa and should be arrested or deported. 

 

 

104      You know, it is just a thought...but considering that the US is one of the most litigenous (spelling?) natioins on the face of the planet, isn't there some mean nasty attoney out there that would be willing to SUE the military for negligence? i mean, there are officials that KNEW this guy was a problem and did NOTHING about it, thereby resulting in the deaths of 13 soldiers, and myriad more injured. i don't know, but it seems like the military is culpible for some damages. i hope someone sues. i hope all the families get together and sue.

105 Terrifying Terrorist

and F|_|ck flap ears.

106

but go ahead and call it terrorism...because everyone knows there is nothing the government can do about "terrorism"  now treason....on the other hand...that the government can and must act on.  So no one in government wants to call it what it is because then they would have to act  diversity be damned

 

 

 

107

McNasty is running for POTUS and thats why he said this...in his heart, a scriveled raisin, he knows Americans just don't get it (ps...part of his campaign ad) and he won't quit until he's elected

The POS

108 10 Well there is no good answer.Either they noticed and buried their heads in the sand or they didn't which means they aren't very competent.I think it is more of the former.

109 Those checks keep adding zeros.

The Army and perhaps even co-defendant Obama Administration have one way out, declare this an act of war by an Islamic terrorist. 

Otherwise, they'd better print up some more hundys. 

110 I'm on a plane to Vegas and you guys started another thread.  Did you call the party off, or did I jump the gun?

111 It's like they've seen too many NYPD Blue reruns.

I don't think there is such a thing as watching 'too many' NYPD Blue reruns.  I would say they aren't watching it enough unless they refer to politicians as humps and/or skels.

112 108 101 My keyboard drops numbers sometimes.

113 Political Correctness Delenda Est.

114 111 The best was Andy saying things like ,"I trew her a hump once."

115 OT:  Wish Fox would fire Shep and hire Lou.

116
The shit is hitting the fan.  Thank goodness.

117 Did the FBI say they found HIV medication or did the reporters see it? It seems like a strange thing to leave there?

118 95 This was not an actof terror.  It was a treasonous act.

Are they mutually exclusive?

119 #86,
ROFL

120 btw he has eyes like two fired eggs and a nose like a bartlett pear. (geraldo)

121 I fired off an email to Sen. McCain thanking him for calling the barbaric slaughter of our men and women what it was..terrorism.  Everyone should follow suit.  Whenever anyone in the government "mans up" they deserve our thanks and encouragement, especially on this issue.

122 > Whatever amount of time remained for his half-hour spot would be filled simply with him standing there, holding out his two extended middle fingers, laughing.

Priceless.

123 Great, fine. Islamic adherents suffer from mental illness. Round up and administer treatment. Or consider how the Mormons handled their stress over having to watch fellow man wallow in sinfulness. They couldn't take it so they struck out for Utah. The amish don't live next to the guy in the military, the waitress or the stripper. They live on a farm, insulated from the rest of us. The native American pureblooded Indian lives on the reservation. I think I've gone as far as I can go making this point. Enough of this willful negligence on the part of the government. Either go one better than France and not only outlaw the female headdress but also the skullcap and white 7 day shitter shirts. Also outlaw the domed places of incitement. If they want to act all traditional they can go live on a fucking reservation. Repudiate, swear allegiance to the flag or hit the road.

124

Drudge is reporting

"Obama Grants FOXNEWS Interview, DRUDGE has learned; Major Garrett will conduct interview in China next week... "

125

Bucking the problem out of your hair, or transferring it out of your hair, is quit common. 

One roommate I had was former Army and he described a soldier that was a complete disaster that was given a good review and was recommended to corps HQ.  My roommate couldn't believe that recommendation was given.  I had to explain that sometimes it is easier to just promote someone somewhere else, where the total incompetence can be demonstrated, and someone else can do the paperwork to seperate the clown from the service.

When I said that, I could see the light turn on in my roommate's face.

 

126 118 Technically it was a military target.I think terrorism only applies to attacks on civilians.I think of them all as terrorists since they are nonuniformed combatants willing to kill anyone,civilian or military.We need new definitions with these freaks.

127 OMG Nader on Oreilly
Gettin it on pretty good

128 127 I hope you mean arguing....ewwww...

129

I guess they would have to actually call it Islamic terrorism instead of dicking around. Plus, if someone spray painted something rude on some Mosque it would be portrayed as being worse than killing 3000 people on 9/11.

Posted by: kansas at November 11, 2009 07:39 PM (ynT/h)

Huh.  People spray-paint swastikas on my synagogue every few years, and nobody seems to think there's some kind of epidemic of Judeophobic hate crime going on.

130

Act of terrorism by a traitor, Act of treason by a terrorist --either label and I'd be happy; either way he should get the noose(and anyone who aided and abetted him should get at the very least a long jail term...possbly the needle.

131 bill oreilly crushes sally quinn of wapo - "He is a Muslim terrorist"
its amazing, sally quinn says at the end, simply, after resisting for 5 minutes:

"He is a Muslim terrorist"

compare that to Sally Quinn's article in WaPo on november 9, critiquing those who call Hasan a Muslim terrorist:

It is difficult, after 9/11, for many Americans to see Muslims who commit atrocities as anything but Muslims. Just look at some of the comments on the blogs. One person went so far as to suggest that we round up all of the Muslims in this country and put them in detention camps like we did the Japanese American citizens during world Ward II . Over the past two days I have heard a number of intelligent, well-educated and open-minded people allude to the fact that Hasan had equated suicide bombers with heroes, talked openly about his feelings against the wars, and expressed his belief's that they were anti-Muslim wars. "Who are we kidding,?" said one person. "This is an act of a Muslim terrorist."

132
OMG Nader on Oreilly
Gettin it on pretty good

WINNAR - poorest choice of words (and most horribly, horribly wrong mental image) of the day.

133 Sally Quin=fail lib

134

 My roommate couldn't believe that recommendation was given.

Yeh, I've had that same reaction to some stories I've heard. "But it was worded carefully so you could tell it wasn't really that flattering." Oh, then that makes it okay. Not.

But still, it was a far, far, cry from:

disconnected, aloof, paranoid, belligerent, and schizoid

How can that be okay, even given extreme political correctness?

135 Thank you, I wanna thank my poor, lazy black berry skills

136 It's like they've seen too many NYPD Blue reruns.

Great, now I'm thinking of naked Charlotte Ross. And Kim Delaney. And Jacqueline Obradors.

137 Great, now I'm thinking of naked Charlotte Ross. And Kim Delaney. And Jacqueline Obradors.

And erg is probably fantasizing about Dennis Franz' naked hams.

138 Oooooohhhhh....Kim Delaney.....

139
Dennis Franz' naked hams.

You.... BASTARD.

140

Anybody see Mobama and Dr. Biden yukkin' it up at the wreath laying ceremony this morning? 

Yes - I saw Michelle our Belle laughing and gauffawing away. I wondered if anyone told her the wreath laying ceremony was a somber event. Just decided to turn it off right then and there - no point raising the blood pressure anymore.

141 Aww, friggin sockpuppet.

142 McCain, his face black, his eyes red.

143 FCUK!!!
13 DEAD SOLDIERS AND IT IS AN ACT OF POLITICAL COURAGE TO CALL IT AN ACT OF TERRORISM!!
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD!!
HE FCUKING TOLD US HIS FCUKING MOTIVES!!!

144 Mess up Move up

145 Anyone who loses a debate against O'Rielly has to be 1) dead wrong 2) have a hard time playing checkers against six-year-olds.

146

All nations die.

Apparently wealth and comfort are a bad thing when it comes to national survival. It triggers a suicidal response. Weird.

147 I don't think anyone has mentioned how patronizing describing Maj. Hassan's Jihad as pre-PTSD or whatever is,

Muslims are, on the whole, intelligent (or cunning), active, responsible adults - not passive weaklings who cannot possibly form plans to murder, unless prompted towards that by oppressive realities beyond their control.

And the Great Liberal Brother is not responsible for healing the psychic wounds of the Muslim any more than the Evil Rightwing Hordes are responsible for whenever any of them act out their infantile rage.

I think in many respects the MSM belittles Muslims and their lives & desires, treating them as children. It really isn't any wonder they respond as such.

148 #27, that was very good.  You have the rhythm and the language down. 

149 What I mean is, man up. Respect your enemy.

When you do that, you can clearly see Maj. Hassan for what he is.

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OK... one chalk mark in the good column for McCain.

Up next:  Glowball Worming Cap'n'Trade and Immigration Reform, can he pull his pants up and please stop showing us his ass on these issues ?

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155 this is just an off the top of my head thought but, maybe he should not have been kept in the army. Maybe they should have taken a loss on all the money they had put into his education and just let me go ????

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They Knew He Was Mental: Although, as Allah says, it's not clear he was crazy at all, at least not in medical terms. They may have just been trying to explain his jihadism and Islamofascist zealotry in clinical, nonjudgmental, non-"discriminatory" terms.

It's true for shrinks, too. When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail. 

158 This is just off the top on my head... Maybe they should have thrown his ass in Leavenworth for communicating with the enemy.

159 Maybe they should have taken a loss on all the money they had put into his education and just let me go ????

Posted by: John ryan at November 11, 2009 09:36 PM (m0Q2u)

Sure, just as soon as you sign on to calling islam a mental disorder.

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Anybody see Mobama and Dr. Biden yukkin' it up at the wreath laying ceremony this morning? 

Yes - I saw Michelle our Belle laughing and gauffawing away.

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They finally met some soldiers they can like.

 

161 Some amusing political theater, Obama is "rejecting" the A-stan policy options offered by his team -- I bet he was stroking his chin and the leftys will applaud his wisdom.

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162 >> sign on to calling islam a mental disorder.

Islam is a Religion of Peace!

_{/ooh, they've turned the lights on and come for me again}

163

161 Some amusing political theater, Obama is "rejecting" the A-stan policy options offered by his team -- I bet he was stroking his chin and the leftys will applaud his wisdom.

I wish I could be amused.  THIS on Veteran's Day!

No member of the armed forces and no family member of same who respects the armed services will ever vote for a Democrat again, not for 25 years.

When can we start drawing up the articles of impeachment, for execution on Jan 26, 2010? 

I am so angry.  SOOOO angry.  Every day, every hour, it's some new outrage with this bastard.

164 He is the Very Model of a Muslim Major, General Casey.

We call anyone who commits mass murder "crazy". But if you do it during a bank robbery, you're still a "crazy" bank robber, just as Hasan is a "crazy" terrorist.

If Hasan is “cracked”, then so is every other jihadist.

That means Khalid Sheik Mohammed should be confined at the State Mental Hospital until psychiatrists say he can safely integrate into American society; a process that usually takes, two, maybe three weeks.

Hey, Hasan’s a shrink–maybe he could evaluate KSM for us!

PTSD: Post-Titty-bar Stress Disorder: The New “Bad Hair Day”.

165 I think the shrinks were waiting for some confirmatory evidence before jumping to conclusions. Like wearing white pants after Labor Day or some shit like that.

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Look at the case of the flying imams who got on board the USAirways flight in Minneapolis. They sued and got a settlement — they were paid money! It seems to me the injured parties were the people who were scared to death to be on the same flight with them. But that's not the way it plays out in our legal system.

Our legal system sucks, and the trial lawyers suck. They have killed all common sense and intelligent discourse in our country. They have endangered all of us because now we cannot protect ourselves without fearing having to go court and suffer possible economic disaster.

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Posted by: Jim at November 11, 2009 09:58 PM (/bsAL)

For those interested, Jim just put up this poll for people to vote on a location for the AoS meetup.  Not to be named for Ace, and likely in cooperation with other blogs.

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I hope I can write this properly without insulting too many non-Muslims.  Those of you who call this killer a lunatic or otherwise insane need to be careful.  Hasan is a true believer in Mohammed's religion, and therefore he believes that he is justified  and will get his reward in heaven.  Anyone who believes that a true believer in a different religion is crazy run the risk of being painted with their own brush.  Hasan is not crazy, at least in the sense that people who are active members of Westboro Baptist church are not crazy. 

170 And who would have squealed the loudest if the FBI or the military would have investigated the piece of crap?

John McCain.

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"Hasan Was Either Crazy or a Jihadi"

Like asking whether Jeffrey Dahmer was crazy or evil.

Correct answer: who gives a shit?

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Making reference also to John Locke's conclusions, Sam Adams in his 1772 Report of the Committee of Correspondence to the Boston Town Meeting, entitled The Rights of the Colonists said the following:

"In regard to religion, mutual toleration in the different professions thereof is what all good and candid minds in all ages have ever practised, and, both by precept and example, inculcated on mankind. And it is now generally agreed among Christians that this spirit of toleration, in the fullest extent consistent with the being of civil society, is the chief characteristical mark of the Church. Insomuch that Mr. Locke has asserted and proved, beyond the possibility of contradiction on any solid ground, that such toleration ought to be extended to all whose doctrines are not subversive of society. The only sects which he thinks ought to be, and which by all wise laws are excluded from such toleration, are those who teach doctrines subversive of the civil government under which they live."

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You may have thought the same thing, and wondered why -- short of the oppression of Political Correctness -- nobody else believes this or says it.  Well, someone did. 

And the oppression of political correctness IS the only reason why no one currently in America will publicly suggest it. Well, I do.

176

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1. has never taken an earmark and has ALWAYS been an opponent of wasteful government spending.

2. has a strong pro-life record.

3. was spot-on right about the war in Iraq back in 2004 while most of the idiots in the GOP were either rallying around Rumsfeld or inching toward withdrawal (see Romney, Mitt).

4. proposed the most sweeping, free-market of health care every put forth by a Republican candidate (combo of tax credits and eliminating the employer tax deduction).

5. brought you Sarah Palin.  (Do you think any of the other stuffed suits in the GOP would have nominated her?)

Calling him a "Democratic-leftist" is not just dishonest, it's mind-bogglingly stupid.   I wish that the fools who enjoy spending all of their meaningless time trashing the GOP's FORMER candidate would get back to trashing the Maoist in chief.  I'm certainly sick-and-tired of listening to this idiotic horsesh*t every time McCain is mentioned - especially from the contingent who supported the Lord of the Phony Conservatives - Mitt Romney.

177 The Army needs to latch down all this media speculation by serving officers of Hasan's state of mind. They do NOT need to be making an insanity defense easier for the defense by doing their work for them.

178

Oh, and McCain is a douchebag who should have displayed some balls on the campaign trail rather than treating his opponent like a favored colleague. You'd think he would have seen where playing nice with Dems got him.

Fucker. And tell your dumb bitch of a daughter to STFU too.

179 We don't mind McCain....he let's us stay here without a passport. It's like we were born here or sumptin.

180 By the way, he's still alive, so if he had been elected we would not yet have to face the fear of having an inexperienced person assuming the presidency.

Yeah, but he never could have survived the pace of all those Wednesday (?) night White House parties. 
/s

181 McLame up for his seat in 2010....His cap and trade stance and his amnesty stance, plus his crappy showing for always saying Obama was such a good boy, blah blah blah.

I don't trust him, and I watched video, he practically wee weed saying the statement.

182 Pelayo @169 "I hope I can write this properly without insulting too many non-Muslims."

Fail.

"  Those of you who call this killer a lunatic or otherwise insane need to be careful."

Or what?

"  Hasan is a true believer in Mohammed's religion, and therefore he believes that he is justified  and will get his reward in heaven. "

He should get his reward in the electric chair. 

" Anyone who believes that a true believer in a different religion is crazy run the risk of being painted with their own brush."

Which would I rather be painted with?
a/ my own brush, or
b/ the blood of this True Believer's murder victims?

"  Hasan is not crazy, at least in the sense that people who are active members of Westboro Baptist church are not crazy. "

Here's a tip:
(crazy PLUS evil) =\= (not crazy).

183 LGoPS @79 "And it is arguable that the kamikazes weer more honorable than this current wave of suicidal fanatics because the Japanese chose miltary targets."

Plus, unlike these premedieval parasitical techno-illiterate Jihadi scumbags, the Japanese at least built their own airplanes. 

T.North @163 "When can we start drawing up the articles of impeachment, for execution on Jan 26, 2010?  "

About ten minutes AFTER the defendant's party loses control of both houses of Congress.  So we're gonna miss that deadline, sorry. 

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