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| Gleen: Repellant to Say that Yelling 'Allahu Akbar' During a Shooting Rampage Is Suggestive of TerrorismPatterico is still keeping an eye on the lamest "thinker" of the Left, long after we stopped caring. This one is noteworthy though as a demonstration of how desperately Democrats will cling to their community-based reality, even when the truth is shooting us in the face. Writes Patterico:I’m at a loss for words to express how stupid Greenwald’s claim is — and indeed, I needn’t mock it, because it mocks itself. May I remind you: on September 11, 2001, Muslim hijackers aboard Flight 93 yelled that phrase as they piloted the plane into the ground. Coincidence, I’m sure. If common sense isn’t enough for you — if you really need to rely a lawyerly-sounding definition of “terrorism” — how about the one used by the U.S. Department of Defense: “The calculated use of violence or threat of violence to inculcate fear; intended to coerce or try to intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological.” At the risk of explaining the painfully obvious: when you yell “Allahu Akbar” during a shooting rampage, that’s evidence that the shooter had Allah’s greatness on the brain during the time of the murder. That suggests a religious motivation, which suggests terrorism. When Greenwald characterizes as “repellent” the claim that shouting “Allahu Akbar” suggests terrorism, he is engaging in the same sort of political correctness that caused military brass to turn a blind eye to Hasan’s extremist support of Muslim terrorism. Which is to say, it’s attitudes like Greenwald’s that helped Nidal Hasan kill 13 people at Fort Hood.All emphasis in the original. Patterico's right, of course. Hasan wasn't muttering "Allahu Ackbar" in the street before he got gunned down for doing something "suggestive" of terrorism. He was yelling "Allahu Ackbar" while shooting Americans on an Army base. And even as I'm writing that paragraph, my "no friggin' duh" buzzer is going off. At this point I'd ordinarily delete it because it's so obvious it's painful to read, but I'll leave it this time for any trolls who wander by and because Gleen apparently cannot make the simple connection: VIOLENCE + RELIGIOUS/POLITICAL/IDEOLOGICAL MOTIVE = SUGGESTIVE OF TERRORISM. More and more as Obama's presidency progresses, I get the feeling when I hear Leftists speak or read their writing that we're not even using the same language anymore. The words sound familiar, but I suspect they're all suffering from some politically-induced aphasia. ![]() Comments1
Can we question their patriotism sanity yet?
Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 11, 2009 12:46 PM (SqAkN) 2
More and more as Obama's presidency progresses, I get the feeling when I hear Leftists speak or read their writing that we're not even using the same language anymore. The words sound familiar, but I haven't the first clue what the hell they're talking about. Which has been the real problem with the political correct movement in this country, the English language has been abused to the point it is hardly recognizable anymore. Examples, "diversity" has become code for quota. "Tax fairness" has become code for "redistribution". The language has been debased of any true meaning. Posted by: Mallamutt at November 11, 2009 12:46 PM (V9SYy) 3
Damn! Gabe, bringing some Ace-quality snark.
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at November 11, 2009 12:46 PM (lhxhu) 4
Whatever. They will say whatever they have to say to continue their narrative. We all know it.
Posted by: kefka at November 11, 2009 12:47 PM (n1uMU) 5
No, Ace your formula is wrong, it should read: VIOLENCE + CONSERVATIVE RELIGIOUS/POLITICAL/IDEOLOGICAL MOTIVE = TERRORISM. Posted by: Glenn Greenwald at November 11, 2009 12:47 PM (V9SYy) 6
I'm going to refer to you as "Mr. Malor" from here on out. You've really grown some fangs over the last few months. Keep snarling. Posted by: rickinstl at November 11, 2009 12:49 PM (0AEWQ) 7
That guy kinda looks like a homo.Who is he? Posted by: Bosk at November 11, 2009 12:50 PM (pUO5u) 8
Hey, Greewald, you don't believe it was Islamic terror? Hasan will tell you in his own words he did it for Islam, he did it for his muslim brothers, and he did it for Allah. Posted by: Tweet says stuff at November 11, 2009 12:50 PM (fTpd3) 9
Which has been the real problem with the political correct movement in
this country, the English language has been abused to the point it is
hardly recognizable anymore.
Absolutely, the left controls the language of the debate. As long as they can do that it is going to be tough to take them down. I used to think 'fairness' was a great thing, but now when someone mentions the word I want to punch them in the face because fairness has been perverted into something very ugly. Posted by: kefka at November 11, 2009 12:50 PM (n1uMU) 10
Greenwald is a terrorist supporter/sympathizer. Fuck him.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 11, 2009 12:51 PM (erIg9) 11
What Greenwald and his ilk are doing is what the MSM has done for the last year and a half: cover for Obama's stupidity. Obama came out yesterday, still dazed and confused about Hasan's Muslim terror goals. In spite of Hasan's clear declaration of the same. Now Obama's toadies provide cover thinking that the weight of the MSM will lend credibility to stupidity.They have done this for so long without consequence they feel invulnerable.
Posted by: pat at November 11, 2009 12:51 PM (BvvsZ) 12
I don't know how you can't agree with one of the most brilliant minds of the 21st Century. Good day to you, sir. Posted by: Glenno Greenwaldo of um, er, Brazil, yeah that's it, Brazil at November 11, 2009 12:52 PM (2qU2d) 13
What a tool bag
Posted by: Mjim at November 11, 2009 12:52 PM (V8B//) Posted by: nickless at November 11, 2009 12:53 PM (MMC8r) 15
The Truthers have the same disconnect with the facts. They insist Bush and Israel were behind 9/11, but Osama bin Laden, the de facto leader behind the attacks, the 19 hijackers, and other members of Al Qaeda have repeatedly admitted and take full credit for 9/11. Posted by: Tweet says stuff at November 11, 2009 12:53 PM (fTpd3) 16
I heard that after a long and stormy courtship, Greenwald and Cindy Johnson were engaged. /Just sayin' what I heard... Posted by: maddogg at November 11, 2009 12:53 PM (OlN4e) 17
If he's squeamish about saying "terrorism", just call it by what Hasan preferred to call it: jihad.
Posted by: keninnorcal at November 11, 2009 12:54 PM (SDc54) Posted by: nickless at November 11, 2009 12:54 PM (MMC8r) 19
Another self-hating Jew.
Posted by: steevy at November 11, 2009 12:54 PM (XhRMg) 20
"The language has been debased of any true meaning." We may all be free to speak, but they will trump that by making anything we say worthless. Posted by: reason at November 11, 2009 12:55 PM (5npD/) 21
Made me wonder about the conditions under which Gleen shouts out "Allahu Akbar", and I just lost my lunch.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 11, 2009 12:55 PM (NtiET) 22
Sort of OT. In honor of Gen. Casey's statements, how about a contest for a new Army motto? Instead of Army Strong, maybe Strength through Diversity or U.S. Army - It Takes A Village.
Posted by: HHKirst at November 11, 2009 12:56 PM (DUwm4) Posted by: OregonMuse at November 11, 2009 12:56 PM (eR37w) Posted by: Mouse at November 11, 2009 12:58 PM (8QSSn) 25
Mr. Greenwald has been quoted in the United States Senate, and is a highly respected commentator on current events.
Posted by: Rick Ellensburg at November 11, 2009 01:00 PM (5aa4z) 26
1. The only possible explanation for all this denial is that Obama and the Democrats knew about this before hand.
2. Someone needs to come up with a handy insult that matches the Democrats using the word teabagger. But then the Democrats are the only ones allowed to use anti gay slurs. Posted by: kansas at November 11, 2009 01:00 PM (mka2b) 27
Too bad for them the SOB is alive and talking.
I guess now we'll be accused of being prejudice for think that when Hassan says in court "I did it for Islam" that he had a religious motive. (I wish I lived in a world where my betters were better than me.) Posted by: Kasper Hauser at November 11, 2009 01:01 PM (KeOQp) 28
It takes a Muslim to raze a village. Be Allah you can be, in the Army. Posted by: andycanuck at November 11, 2009 01:02 PM (2qU2d) 29
Let's face it: the term "Politically Correct" translates roughly as "having been dumbed down so as to not offend some select liberally favored minority". The dumbing process can go so far as to make the whole communication an oxymoron but as long as it favors the liberally favored minority specified, it's "correct".
Posted by: Politically Incorrect at November 11, 2009 01:02 PM (v4UYp) 30
So I am guessing someone murdering Jews yelling "Heil Hitler!" would not be considered Anti-semetic?
Posted by: DavidM at November 11, 2009 01:02 PM (R/e5b) 31
Wolf Blitzer: "I think the question everyone wants to hear answered, now, is why did you go on a murderous rampage?" Hasan: "I did it because all infidels are against the teachings of Mohammed, and must therefore lose their lives." Wolf Blitzer: "I see. So this was a personal decision you made, and had nothing to do with your religious beliefs?" Hasan: "It had everything to do with my religion..." Wolf Blitzer: "Mmm. I understand. So at what point on the morning leading up to these events did you convert to Christianity?" Posted by: reason at November 11, 2009 01:02 PM (5npD/) 32
So if one of our soldiers in Iraq decided to bust into a mosque, M-16 spitting, after painting a red cross on his flak jacket, and screaming "FOR CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!", that would just be a completely "innocent" non-religious, non-political mass-murder, as opposed to something that would tend to piss the Mussies off a bit?"
Posted by: Sharkman at November 11, 2009 01:02 PM (Zj8fM) 33
2. Someone needs to come up with a handy insult that matches the Democrats using the word teabagger. But then the Democrats are the only ones allowed to use anti gay slurs. Cocksuckers! Cocksuckers! Posted by: Mr Wu at November 11, 2009 01:03 PM (2qU2d) 34
Someone needs to come up with a handy insult that matches the Democrats using the word teabagger.
I personally like what was come up with the other day "salad tossers" Posted by: Mjim at November 11, 2009 01:03 PM (V8B//) 35
How do we know he wasn't really yelling "All of You? Ar-tards!!" after too much time playing World of Warcraft?
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at November 11, 2009 01:03 PM (KeOQp) 36
Glenn is off his meds again.
That said, I think there's an interesting (but mostly academic) question here, what is 'terrorism'? I thought it was usually violence against civilians to achieve a political end. But is it terrorism when it happens to military personnel? Or is it terrorism because the person committing the act isn't a member of an organized military? Jonah Goldberg was noodling about this yesterday on The Corner. Again, it's an interesting academic question when you accept the fact that it's Islamic induced violence. When you play these word games to obscure that fact like Glenn and the Magic Boyfriend do, it's a sign of moral bankruptcy. As for Gabe's "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra." +1 for a Star Trek reference, -500 because it's TNG. Posted by: DrewM. at November 11, 2009 01:04 PM (FCWQb) 37
Am I ever glad I taught you that word, Wu. And Wu can say it because he's a person of color. Posted by: Al Swearengen at November 11, 2009 01:04 PM (2qU2d) 38
Someone needs to come up with a handy insult that matches the Democrats using the word teabagger.
Salad tosser. Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 11, 2009 01:04 PM (NtiET) 39
27 Too bad for them the SOB is alive and talking.
I guess now we'll be accused of being prejudice for think that when Hassan says in court "I did it for Islam" that he had a religious motive. Unfortunately in OUR legal system, he will be provided with defense counsil that will prevent him from admitting his motivation in order to protect him from his own admissions at taxpayer expense. If they don't, they won't be doing their job. Posted by: Politically Incorrect at November 11, 2009 01:05 PM (v4UYp) 40
Hasan will tell you in his own words he did it for Islam, he did it for his muslim brothers, and he did it for Allah. Aren't liberals the bestest? They know how to improve everyone's lives, despite the fact that theirs are a trainwreck and no matter how much we scream that they're ruining ours. And they know that Muslim mass murderers commit mass murder for reasons wholly unconnected with their Muslim faith, no matter how much said mass murderers insist that that's precisely and exclusively the force that drives them to commit mass murder. We're truly blessed to have them among us. Posted by: VJay at November 11, 2009 01:05 PM (gQ+XA) 41
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Mr. Greenwald has been quoted in the United States Senate, and is a highly respected commentator on current events.
Posted by: Rick Ellensburg at November 11, 2009 01:00 PM (5aa4z) lawl Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 11, 2009 01:06 PM (erIg9) 42
Today's Obama bumper sticker.
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at November 11, 2009 01:09 PM (kn+jW) 43
As for Gabe's "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra." +1 for a Star Trek reference, -500 because it's TNG. +800 because it was one of the better episodes (though I would have cast Shatner as the alien captain). -1100 because, once again, the mighty Starship Enterprise -- the flagship of the incredibly rich, mighty, and expansive Federation of Planets -- was overpowered by a ship operated by a fringe tribe of weirdos limited by some horrible retardation (in this case, the inability to communicate in any non-metaphorical form). Your move, tough guy. Posted by: VJay at November 11, 2009 01:10 PM (gQ+XA) 44
I probably find Greenwald so especially worthy of contempt because we are nearly exactly the same age (42) and demographic (white male American).
He is the kind of "intellectual" that makes my gorge rise: an openly-gay man who nevertheless rushes to defend people who would happily cut his head off; a champion of the "little people" who nevertheless holds conservative "little people" in complete contempt; and who is continuously lauded by the left-wing media despite not ever -- as far as I can tell -- thinking, speaking, or writing a single original thought in his entire tenure on Planet Earth. In other words, he is Andrew Sullivan's twin brother from another mother. He is spiritually incoherent, mean, petty, niggardly with praise for people he disagrees with, and deeply dishonest both with himself and his readership. He is therefore a perfect fit for Salon and the people who read that vapid rag. (In a previous decade he would have been the house-pet of Harper's or Vanity Fair.) Posted by: Monty at November 11, 2009 01:10 PM (4Pleu) 45
It's Gleens type of thinking that will fix nothing and get more people killed.
Posted by: Bosk at November 11, 2009 01:10 PM (pUO5u) 46
25 Mr. Greenwald has been quoted in the United States Senate, and is a highly respected commentator on current events. Respected by people we don't respect. Like you. BTW, where do I send the quarter? Posted by: maddogg at November 11, 2009 01:10 PM (OlN4e) 47
niggardly
Posted by: Monty at November 11, 2009 01:10 PM (4Pleu) RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACIST Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 11, 2009 01:12 PM (erIg9) 48
Unclefacts:
I must admit that I used "niggardly" on purpose to see how much fear, confusion, and bile it would generate from people who don't know what it means. Posted by: Monty at November 11, 2009 01:14 PM (4Pleu) Posted by: reason at November 11, 2009 01:16 PM (5npD/) 50
Again, it's an interesting academic question when you accept the fact
that it's Islamic induced violence. When you play these word games to
obscure that fact like Glenn and the Magic Boyfriend do, it's a sign of
moral bankruptcy.
See Orwell, George: "Politics and the English Language." PS: And funny enough, in the essay where Orwell rewrites Ecclesiastes in modern bueracratic jargon, his satiric update is strikingly close to the dense and obtuse prose that Greenwald is known for. Posted by: Lee at November 11, 2009 01:16 PM (7y9kL) 51
I don't know about Greenwald but I think there may be a common thread here. 3/19/2002 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A 60-year-old man is gunned down by Muslim snipers on a golf course. Posted by: harleycowboy at November 11, 2009 01:16 PM (JKGfQ) 52
I'm damned amazed Saadam Husein Obama didn't apologize to the scuzzball for all those people getting in the way while he was target shooting.
Posted by: Joseph Brown at November 11, 2009 01:17 PM (mumWu) 53
Monty, it's one of my favorite words, I remember the first time I had heard it. Dick Cavett was interviewing Muhammad Ali, and he asked him about the "niggardly sum" that he had been paid for a fight at one time.
Thanks to illiterate liberals, our once amazing language has been utterly destroyed through political correctness. Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 11, 2009 01:18 PM (erIg9) 54
49 Markie Post had a huge rack.I watched Nightcourt for her...okay I thought the show was funny too.
Posted by: steevy at November 11, 2009 01:18 PM (XhRMg) 55
That said, I think there's an interesting (but mostly academic) question here, what is 'terrorism'?
I thought about this a while back, and IMO terrorism is a (1) politically/religiously motivated attack (2) on a civilian target (3) by a non-government organization. Since this attack was on a military base, I think it falls into the category of saboteur or covert op rather than terrorist, although you could certainly make the argument that Ft. Hood is a non-combat post and is closer to a civilian target than a military one. Posted by: Brendan at November 11, 2009 01:19 PM (2jQGY) 56
I don't care what's "repellant" any more. That's just a more general case (than charges of racism) of trying to stifle opposition. Of course he was motivated by his religion. Got a semantic nit to pick about the definition-of-terrorism math, though. In addition to violence + motivation, there are also the elements of calculation and goal. Did he do it to intimidate people into changing policy? Or did he do it simply because he wanted to wage war against non-Muslims? I think the latter. It was certainly an act of treason, and jihad. Maybe not technically terrorism. That doesn't make it less wrong, of course. The same distinction might be made for those who kill abortion providers. Some might calculate that it will intimidate other abortion providers (terrorism), but some might be vigilantes out to kill someone they see as a murderer without thought to effecting any change in policy. Again, it's not less wrong for not being terrorism. Terrorism doesn't describe a level of evil, it describes a form of it. Posted by: Original Roy at November 11, 2009 01:20 PM (jV0wG) 57
Shaka, when the walls fell.
Posted by: toby928 at November 11, 2009 01:20 PM (PD1tk) 58
Monty at November 11, 2009 01:14 PM (4Pleu) I'm not a college educated idiot but even I know what that means. Posted by: harleycowboy at November 11, 2009 01:20 PM (JKGfQ) 59
I'd like to point out that Greenwald is a respected LIBTARD. The LEFT is soooooooooooooooooooooooo FAR LEFT that nut jobs are considered normal.
Posted by: gus at November 11, 2009 01:21 PM (Vqruj) 60
Oh, and this: a demonstration of how desperately Democrats will cling to their
community-based reality, even when the truth is shooting us in the face.
Nice. Posted by: toby928 at November 11, 2009 01:22 PM (PD1tk) 61
The other day a liberal family member said something to the effect of "conservatives think all Muslims are terrorists." I had to explain to them that no, they think that all Muslims who commit terrorist acts in the name of their religion are terrorists. But to her and to a lot of liberals like Mr. Greenwald here, there's no difference, and there's no convincing them otherwise. To these people there is literally nothing in the world worse than "generalizing" Muslims. Generalizing conservatives is perfectly okay, of course, those bitter gun-clinging teabagging rednecks. But generalizing Muslims, even when that's not what we're doing, well that's punishable by death. Posted by: Average Jen at November 11, 2009 01:22 PM (2dZ+6) 62
steevy - As a young, impressionable child, I watched Night Court for equal parts "ogling Markie Post" and "the comic genius that is Richard Moll."
Posted by: reason at November 11, 2009 01:22 PM (5npD/) 63
Since this attack was on a military base, I think it falls into the category of saboteur or covert op rather than terrorist
The word is treason. Maj. Hasan was a commissioned officer of the United States of America, but acted to harm and hinder the government and military he served. I doubt the military will actually charge him with treason -- the very word seems to have lost currency in these debased modern times -- but if what Maj. Hasan did was not treason, then nothing is. Posted by: Monty at November 11, 2009 01:23 PM (4Pleu) 64
I must admit that I used "niggardly" on purpose to see how much fear,
confusion, and bile it would generate from people who don't know what
it means.
Heh. It's a wonderful and descriptive word, but you can't use it anymore. I remember a couple of years ago, some public employee of an east coast state used it, got fired for "racism", appealed, and lost the appeal even after it was defined so that everybody knew it what the word actually meant and that it has nothing whatsoever to do with race. Posted by: OregonMuse at November 11, 2009 01:23 PM (eR37w) 65
He looks like Adam Sandler. Actually, if you read his words in that Sandleresque "retarded child" speak, it fits.
Posted by: whatever at November 11, 2009 01:24 PM (XIXhw) Posted by: Tweet says stuff at November 11, 2009 01:24 PM (fTpd3) Posted by: Elmew Fudd at November 11, 2009 01:25 PM (qP2BK) 68
I'm not a college educated idiot but even I know what that means.
Oh, I gots mad respec' for the usual AoS morons; it's why I hang out here. But we are afflicted with many particularly dim-witted trolls who generally latch onto this sort of thing like one of Michael Vick's fighting dogs. It entertains me to watch them foam and vent. Posted by: Monty at November 11, 2009 01:25 PM (4Pleu) Posted by: Tweet says stuff at November 11, 2009 01:26 PM (fTpd3) 70
Posted by: harleycowboy at November 11, 2009 01:16 PM (JKGfQ) Thanks for the reminder. I was wondering the other day how many such incidents have happened, yet we are not to "rush to judgment" or attribute it to its true root cause, the "Religion of Peace." Posted by: Elmew Fudd at November 11, 2009 01:27 PM (qP2BK) 71
This shit is really easy. If the Ft. Hood terrorist had walked into that building and detonated a bomb strapped to his body, would we be having this debate? Of course not. It's simply the manner in which he chose to do this that is leading to the debate, when it should be the INTENT. And his intention was to kill a lot of American citizens and likely to die himself.
Posted by: Jai at November 11, 2009 01:27 PM (8K2ZC) 72
How about this. let's call it terrorism if it happens to most civilians and unarmed military, and justifiable homicide if it happens to Gleen and his pals.
Posted by: Yobobbyb at November 11, 2009 01:28 PM (P0MTp) 73
re: TNG epsiode +1501 for Gilgamesh and Enkidu at Uruk. Check and mate. Posted by: VJay at November 11, 2009 01:29 PM (gQ+XA) Posted by: Monty at November 11, 2009 01:30 PM (4Pleu) 75
"Community-based Reality" - good one, that.
Pity these morons (and clearly the dominant worldview in the White House nicely parallels Greenwald's) are going to get innocent people killed and still never come to their senses. Jihadists around the world must be laughing their asses off at us. Posted by: DocJ at November 11, 2009 01:30 PM (dt6br) 76
Oh, and this: a demonstration of how desperately Democrats will cling to their community utopian -based reality, even when the truth is shooting us in the face. FIFY Posted by: harleycowboy at November 11, 2009 01:35 PM (JKGfQ) 77
So I am guessing someone murdering Jews yelling "Heil Hitler!" would not be considered Anti-semetic?
Posted by: DavidM at November 11, 2009 01:02 PM (R/e5b) Actually, when a national socialist 9/11 troofer shot up a Jewish center recently, the State Media pronounced him a conservative. Posted by: 18-1 at November 11, 2009 01:36 PM (7BU4a) Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 11, 2009 01:36 PM (DCQ0q) 79
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It takes a Muslim to raze a village. Be Allah you can be, in the Army. Posted by: andycanuck at November 11, 2009 01:02 PM (2qU2d) Andy, I made a bumper sticker out of your comment. I added "today's PC" for all the libtards. Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at November 11, 2009 01:37 PM (kn+jW) 80
Thanks for that handy list, harleycowboy - many of those I'd not seen. Glen can run his yap all he wants - nobody but his fellow travelers will believe a word he says. This is one area where the Left will have to keep up the lie a lot longer and a lot lounder before they have any hope of tricking average Americans. It's not a complex issue that can be easily obfuscated. Unfortunately, right now the Americans who understand the problem are leaderless and unable to organize effective opposition. The Republicans need to figure out that they can't lose elections by speaking the truth about the damn muslims. If I were to write the 2010 Contract with America, I would certainly include a promise to forthrightly fight against Islamism in the US, using every available legal remedy to persecute, and prosecute, every terrorist, terrorist sympathizer and terrorist wannabe that could be found. I'd vow to end immigration from ANY majority muslim country, to obstruct wherever possible any money transfers out of the US to any muslim country, and to forbid any aid to muslim countries. Every mosque that gave 1 red cent to any charity of any sort would be investigated by the FBI to insure that none was going to terrorism, and if a single penny did then arrests would be made immediately - followed by vigorous prosecution. Any legal pretext that could be invented to prevent the construction (or maintenance) of mosques would be supported fully. Ultimately, what we really need is a constitutional amendment to redefine Islam, in all its forms, as a criminal ideology without any legal protections. Posted by: Reactionary at November 11, 2009 01:37 PM (P+HSn) 81
I've learned a lot since Obammy's been president. Every morning when I show up at work I say either salam malakem! or allahu ackbar! Gets me noticed.
Posted by: guy who shows up at work acting strange at November 11, 2009 01:38 PM (wAQA5) 82
conscious, but incoherent at November 11, 2009 01:37 PM (kn+jW) I liked the "connect the dots" sticker. I'm still looking for a "I voted for socialism" sticker to put on "Obama" cars. Posted by: harleycowboy at November 11, 2009 01:41 PM (JKGfQ) 83
Wow...nice move pulling out that "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra" thing. It rang a bell with me as soon as I saw it, but I had to Google it to remember where it actually came from.
I remember that episode well now, and I remember Paul Winfield's character repeating the line to Picard for the umpteenth time as if Picard were a retarded child. Or Glenn Greenwald, but I repeat myself. Posted by: Eric at November 11, 2009 01:41 PM (GaXpK) 84
Quick question. You're on a plane or a subway and some guy starts screaming "Allahu Ackbar." Do you react defensively? Or do you, like Gleen Grenwald, nod approvingly and praise diversity?
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at November 11, 2009 01:41 PM (PLvLS) 85
In his defense, Glen Greenwald is a fucking moron, so, you know, cut him some slack.....
Posted by: zipity at November 11, 2009 01:51 PM (UwA+Z) 86
There is more irony here than is intended. Under our brand new hate crime law, when you beat someone up and say I hate you because you are X, that is sufficient reason to prosecute for a hate crime as well as the underlying crime. Apparently, to the same people who push those laws, shouting Allahu Akbar is not sufficient evidence of religious or jihadist intent. Perhaps the first idiot prosecuted under the hate crime laws, can call these people as witnesses to say the words really don't matter and you can't prove intent from them.
Posted by: Andy T at November 11, 2009 01:54 PM (y5bPZ) 87
Hey, Greenwald -- The next time you're in the White House, yell "sic semper tyrranis" as loud as you can. It's OK; speech is Constitutionally protected, and no one can draw any conclusions. (G'head. It's all right.) Posted by: FireHorse at November 11, 2009 01:54 PM (Vl5GH) 88
Or "tyrannis" -- your choice.
Posted by: FireHorse at November 11, 2009 01:55 PM (Vl5GH) 89
I am not a terrorist! I did not shout "Allahu Akbar!" because I was shooting people! I only shouted that out accidentally because I had inadvertantly tripped over one of the people that I had shot. That is what we Muslims say when we trip over something. So, you see, it could not have been an act of terrorism.
Posted by: Niddy at November 11, 2009 02:01 PM (yjDfo) 90
You're welcome, conscious, but incoherent. An interesting site, too. Posted by: andycanuck at November 11, 2009 02:08 PM (2qU2d) 91
What is "repellant" is the insufferable condescension of our ruling class, with its arrogant gun control sensibilities that cause us to be massacred. They now act like our mortal enemies, and do so with no apologies. Their authority is ended. I no longer allow as they have any whatsoever. Posted by: Chas at November 11, 2009 02:08 PM (yjDfo) 92
Selective Logic Disease has reached epidemic proportions among liberals. The only cure is to ignore them and no longer acknowledge the rantings of the belching brains.
Posted by: Greg at November 11, 2009 02:19 PM (fHiua) 93
I think you meant "Rick Semper Moranis", FireHorse.
Posted by: Original Roy at November 11, 2009 02:19 PM (17Zlu) 94
But is it terrorism when it happens to military personnel? Or is it
terrorism because the person committing the act isn't a member of an
organized military?
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