1 Gallup? Never heard of em.

2 But are Senate dems dumb enough to believe what Slick Willy told them yesterday -- that the electorate (primarily in VA and NJ) is angry with them for not doing enough to pass death care?

3 P.S.  Happy Veterans Day to all those wearing and in uniform.  Heartfelt thanks for your service!

4 With the wild swings back to the GOP, and Michael Steele diligently working on restoring the GOP brand, I wonder if all these people are just sick of the deomcrats like they were of the GOP in 2006.

5 Oops.  "all those wearing and who have worn..."

6 If Gallop says it then you can give another 10 points to Republicans. But really, it means nothing until a year from now.

The Party of the Big Tent has a lot of time left to do some industrial strength stupid like supporting Democrats who put and R after their name.

7 On the day of his inauguration, Obama famously quipped: “How good looking is my wife?” Yes, she’s really, really good looking, as are you. In fact, you are both perfect. By all means ram this down each other’s throats, but not ours.

Alternate title....gag me with a spoon already.
Have I mentioned how much I like British newspapers?

8 Michael Steele diligently working on restoring the GOP brand....

That was sarcasm right?

9

Yeah, I always get a kick out of how lefties claim Rasmussen is crap, yet he seems to be ahead of the curve yet again.

 

Oh well, it appears that ACORN will have its work cut out for them trying to setal 2010

10 Rasmussen has The Won at 46 percent approval.

11 Michael Steele diligently working on restoring the GOP brand....

That was sarcasm right?


Oh yeah, and lots of it!

12 Imagine what Obama's numbers would look like if the media held him to the big boy standards that other politicians are held to. His approval would be probably be in the teens.

13 With the republicans enabling the dems in their passage of pelosi-care and Michael Steele trashing members of his own party to get media credibility, I have become less and less interested in the republican brand. I will support them because the other option seems to be socialism but I certainly can no longer support them based on their own merit.

14 My thanks and regards to those on the "Left" that have increased sales of Lipton Tea 400% thanks to their constant reminder that "tea-bagging" is an entirely appropriate way to serve tea.

Warming. Fulfilling. Tea.

_{served with braaaaiiiinns.}

-

15

Hey, PA, here's one you might want to single out today...

http://tinyurl.com/yzgrs9y

The warrior song!

16 I smell the stink of historically white colonial pollsters.

17

O/T  Beck's back and bustin' loose!

18
Occam's Razor?

Rush made a very astute observation yesterday. He said the only reason why the stock market is going up is because there's no other place for people to put there money.

I hadn't thought of that, but it's so simple and so obvious, so yeah, it's probably the exact reason why Wall Street is experiencing a mini-boom in the last several months.

19 Today's Boston Globe headline: Stimulus job boost in state exaggerated, review finds.

Shocked, etc.

20 I posted this earlier on the ONT and it is on topic and worth a repeat for folks who haven't seen it.

Surprisingly balanced article from CBS  on the Crist/Rubio race in Florida (doesn’t have the normal conservatives are one issue religious voters meme).

 It looks like Rubio not only has a very good chance, but all the Dems and Independent spoilers will not be able to get in and ruin it this time.  The article mentions something I didn’t know.

 Florida has something the rest of the country needs; the primaries are CLOSED.

 H/T California Conservati

21

Does it really matter if there is a blow out in 2010? Seriously. When this health care passes the senate we are finished. FINISHED. We will become Europe where their "right" parties are to the left of American Democrats.

It is over for so many people, so many small businesses when this thing passes. Freedom Kaput. And lord knows healthcare will never be repealed even if the republicans won every seat in the house and senate, because the president would veto it.

22
Michael Steele diligently working on restoring the GOP brand....

That was sarcasm right?
Posted by: Vic at November 11, 2009 08:57 AM (CDUiN)

He didn't say he was doing it well. He's just diligently fu ...err... plucking that chicken.

23 Rush made a very astute observation yesterday. He said the only reason why the stock market is going up is because there's no other place for people to put there money.

Very true, the commodity markets are going way up because most people are rushing to put their money in something with value instead of in the dollar since its dropping like a rock.

24 7 WTF was that from?You almost jump started a vomit.

25

Occam's Razor?

Rush made a very astute observation yesterday. He said the only reason why the stock market is going up is because there's no other place for people to put there money.

I hadn't thought of that, but it's so simple and so obvious, so yeah, it's probably the exact reason why Wall Street is experiencing a mini-boom in the last several months.

Yeah, i've been debating where to put my money. Banks are offering like .8% CDs in the short term. And i don't want to buy a long term CD because if inflation hits I will be screwed.

Money MArket Accounts are no better.

Savings Accounts get like .3%

 

It's tough. I have been day trading in the stock market for fun to recoup some loses from last year. I've recovered everything I lost, but I am starting to pull some money out of stocks out of fear the market can't sustain this when unemployments goes higher or remains stagnant.

 

26 This poll is a hypocritical skank because it once showed Obama as being more popular in the past, and says something different today.  HYPOCRISY!

27 Rasmussen has The Won at 46 percent approval.

46's father made a racially insensitive joke in 1842.  Discount this news entirely.

28 Wayyyyyy to early to be making predictions of blowouts and election results. Forget all that nonsense.
Keep moving forward, people.
Send a few $ to your blogs and your Conservative Rep of choice whenever you can.
Stay active, comment online often - the Administration tries to act like we don't exist but they read this stuff!

29

Thank you to all those who have served [and are serving]. Happy Veterans Day.

Why the party of democrats is imploding.........Saw these at HillBuzz, these posts are really worth a read: (via hillbuzz.org)

"Thank you former President George W. Bush and former First Lady Laura Bush"

"What the “Fall of the Wall” means to us today, and for America tomorrow"

"We are very close to no longer being Democrats" "

30
Here's the weird part to the comment I made above:

Okay, so let's say investors are looking to equities as a safe haven for their money.

I'm going to assume the investors are not necessarily concerned with the performance of the particular companies and the company's future earnings, based on the dismal indicators, but see the stocks as a sort of ponzi scheme.

In other words, investors are jumping on the bandwagon of the rising market and it's building upon itself, thus creating more riders in the bandwagon, thus increasing the value of the ponzi scheme.

Agree or disagree?

31 but I am starting to pull some money out of stocks out of fear the market can't sustain this when unemployments goes higher or remains stagnant.

 Posted by: Ben at November 11, 2009 09:17 AM (wuv1c)

Ben, but what about the tax hit you'll get for cashing out?  I'd love to sell off everything before we crash again, but what can you do with it to just keep what you have? 

32 I think O will have his bill before Christmas.   Harry has added the "bill" to the Senate calendar for November 16.

33 OMG, a pig just flew past my window and I hear they have a sale on ice cream in hell.

Gallup says the generic preference is +4 Republicans?  That's a 6 point swing from last time.  I think we may actually see Gallup break down and go sub 50% on Obama next.

They probably got the word from the DNC to start overheating expectations for a Republican rout only to have the numbers magically rebound in the Dems favor a month before the elections.  Either that or Gallup is going broke because no one outside the far left will hire them anymore after their 17th place showing in 2008.

P.S., Amazing how Gallup shows 40% of Americans consider themselves Conservative, Republicans a are slaughtering the Dems in the generic and Independents are going right 2:1, and yet, only 38% disapprove of the job Obama is doing.

Logical disconnect anyone?

34 Charlie Gibson?

Never heard of him.

35 Posted by: Tweet says stuff at November 11, 2009 09:21 AM (fTpd3)

Isn't that how the stock market normally operates?

36
...but I am starting to pull some money out of stocks out of fear the market can't sustain this when unemployment goes higher or remains stagnant.

Yeah, see, this is what I mean. The prudent thing to do, in view of virtually all economic indicators pointing downwards, would be stay far away from equities. Yet the three major indices, DJIA, S&P, and NASDAQ, are proving that assumption to be flat-out wrong.

So that's why I think we're seeing both a ponzi scheme and a bandwagon effect happening right now at Wall Street.

37 I have to say, watching the Dems commit public political suicide is a pleasure.  I think even more than being socialists, the fact that Obama and the Dems are completely and blatantly full of sh*t is hurting them the most.

They pass the abortion amendment in PelosiCare just to get the votes, then immediately yank it?  Please.  They are actually arrogant enough to believe they can get away with that bs.

38 but I am starting to pull some money out of stocks out of fear the market can't sustain this when unemployments goes higher or remains stagnant.

 Posted by: Ben at November 11, 2009 09:17 AM (wuv1c)

Ben, but what about the tax hit you'll get for cashing out?  I'd love to sell off everything before we crash again, but what can you do with it to just keep what you have? 

 

It depends. IF i have held the stock for a year I  have to pay capital gains. If its been under a year then i pay, out of my profits, whatever my income tax rate is for this year.

I can guarantee my income tax this year will be significantly lower than it will be next year, and i'm not getting a raise or anything. Obama is going to raise all our rates.

 

Lets say my Income tax rate is 30%, and I made 1000 dollars in profits. I still get to keep 700 dollars. That is a whole lot better than letting it stay in the market if the market collapses again and having massive losses.

IF you just want to maintain your money? CDs, FDIC insured Money Market Accounts, if you are worried about inflation then Inflation Protected Treasuries or Commodities. For commodities you don't actually have to buy physical gold, cotton, lead, etc. You can buy ETFs of those commodities. You can buy them with whoever or whatever company you use to buy your stocks. I use TD Ameritrade, 9.99 per trade regardless of volume. I refuse to pay a broker to lose my money when I can do a perfectly fine job losing it myself.

39 Gallup is obviously part of the vast right wing conspiracy and in the pocket of big insurance companies and racist and counter-revolutionary.

40
Isn't that how the stock market normally operates?

I see your point, but that kind of investing mentality usually doesn't permeate the so-called Blue Chips, as far as I know, and is mainly prevalent in the "hot" stocks du jour.

41
The reason why I mention this is because I think there are two things saving Obama from Carter-like approval ratings.

1) Gas prices. Crude has been relatively stable and low lately rather volatile and expensive. Gasoline prices are relatively low and that's keeping the natives from getting restless.

2) The market indices are creating the illusion that good times are on the horizon and investors are running scared.

42 someone correct me if i'm wrong, but can't presidential vetoes be overridden by 2/3rds majority vote of both house & senate? if healthcare DOES pass, and O becomes lame duck in Nov 10, conservatives can still repeal it. would take a great deal of work but hopefully the crew we'll put in there next year will be willing to do it..

43

2 But are Senate dems dumb enough to believe what Slick Willy told them yesterday -- that the electorate (primarily in VA and NJ) is angry with them for not doing enough to pass death care?

Did that shit head really say that? After the same issue cost him the house and senate? What a lying sack of maggots. But you already knew that.

44

Yessssss!  Feel the hate.  Breathe the hate.  Yesssss - that's it!  Hate makes you strong! 

BTW - has anyone seen my puppy?

 

45 but I am starting to pull some money out of stocks out of fear the market can't sustain this when unemployments goes higher or remains stagnant.

Two words: INDEX. OPTIONS.

46

More spin by the MSM. Im not supprised.

 

Rasmussen Rules!

47 Tweet--

The market is rising due to money flows from overseas and from domestic banksters borrowing at zero percent interest from the Fed. This creates a "carry trade," where investors in effect short the dollar. See market-ticker.deninger.net for how this works. The dollar and the equity market are perfectly inversely correlated right now.

48 I've decided not to let the health care garbage in the senate eat me alive because I think we'll go totally under before the fascists start patrolling the streets.  When a dolt like O'Reilly predicts a tax revolt, people are starting to get it.  Last year, Richard Celente of Trends Research.com predicted tax revolts.  Wait till the 52% (the few that pay taxes) get a load of their tax burden for "free" health care.  

49

someone correct me if i'm wrong, but can't presidential vetoes be overridden by 2/3rds majority vote of both house & senate? if healthcare DOES pass, and O becomes lame duck in Nov 10, conservatives can still repeal it. would take a great deal of work but hopefully the crew we'll put in there next year will be willing to do it..

 

Can I come visit you in Narnia. It will never be repealed. Medicare, Medicade, Welfare, Social Security, the list goes on. This stuff never gets repealed.

 

50 Actually, I have always thought over the long term stocks are better than gold during periods of inflation.

But that assumes two things, first that you have stock in a company that does not go under.

Second that the entire country does not go under, in which case the only investment that is good is lead and bread.

51 It is too early but the GOP has one huge thing going for it- Obama is true believer of the first order.He hates capitalism and will never pivot on economic policy heading into the election.
The RNC needs only to coordinate a message that private enterprise and policies to help it are our only hope to create jobs.
Make it a referendum on Pelosi, Reid and Obamas socialism.- and don't be afraid go rip them ( something the RINOs will not do).

52 Did that shit head really say that? After the same issue cost him the house and senate?

Oh yea.  He's just egging Obama on to ever greater debacles setting Hillary up for a primary challenge.  Bill isn't a total fool.  He knows this current democrat crew is so naive and stupid they can be played like a Steinway.

53 great. From abc, apparently Hasan was riddled with more jihadi connections than Andi Sullivan of STDs

54

Can I come visit you in Narnia. It will never be repealed. Medicare, Medicade, Welfare, Social Security, the list goes on. This stuff never gets repealed.

While an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. It can be repealed, it it's done before it becomes institutionalized. Look at Prohibition.

55 .

56
With the current leadership of the GOP I wouldn't be surprised if they fuck this up by running squishes and ignoring conservatives.

57
....domestic banksters borrowing at zero percent interest from the Fed.

They're taking interest-free loans and investing that $$ into the market?

58

AP chimes in with its own poll that shows Barry is still beloved among the people.

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama still has the approval of a majority of Americans, but it's an increasingly pessimistic nation.

The public grew slightly more dispirited on a range of matters over the past month, including war and the economy, continuing the slippage that has occurred since Obama took office, the latest Associated Press-GfK poll shows.

Now, Obama's approval rating stands at 54 percent, roughly the same as in October but very different from the enthusiastic 74 percent in January just before he took office. And some 56 percent of people say the country is heading in the wrong direction, an uptick from 51 percent last month and 49 percent in Obama's first month as president.

 

59 Remember also that Billy Bob is a consummate liar. Every time he opens his mouth a lie comes out, but to a liberal it always sounds so rational.

The current crop of Dems lie even more than he does, but the are so bad at it that even the liberals recognize it for a lie and they become embarrassed.

ugghhhh did I say that?

Liberal embarrassed by a Dem lie???? Arrrggg. I must be losing it.

60 Look at Prohibition.

Prohibition didn't cut checks to voters.

61 @ zombie Sir Thomas Lipton

I eat my brains with whiskey, you soggy British fop.

Nothing like a whiskey-brain smoothie for breakfast.

62

Can I come visit you in Narnia. It will never be repealed. Medicare, Medicade, Welfare, Social Security, the list goes on. This stuff never gets repealed.

While an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. It can be repealed, it it's done before it becomes institutionalized. Look at Prohibition.

Prohibition wasn't a welfare state program. There were no "free" benefits offered by it to the citizens. Find me a "free money" program that has since been repealed entirely in american history? 

Also who here honestly thinks the republicans will win over 2/3 of the house and senate in 2010? Honestly?

Even if they did win 2/3 of the house and senate, which i think is impossible, how many of those 2/3 are going to be squishies who would never vote to repeal healthcare. we're not just fighitng the democrats, we're fighting within the party as well

63

Oh yea.  He's just egging Obama on to ever greater debacles setting Hillary up for a primary challenge.  Bill isn't a total fool.  He knows this current democrat crew is so naive and stupid they can be played like a Steinway.

So, he's setting up Helter Skelter? Sounds more like the Slick I loathe. He is certainly not beyond helping them into minority status to forward his aims.

Bill Clinton first, last, and always is his motto.

64

@ 21

 

They want us to give up.  Don't give them the satisfaction.  It ain't over.

 

65

....domestic banksters borrowing at zero percent interest from the Fed.

They're taking interest-free loans and investing that $$ into the market?

 

actually, if they were smart, they would borrow that money and short the market.

66 Look at Prohibition.

Prohibition didn't cut checks to voters.

And look at what we wound up with for liquor laws after prohibition. The simply could not go back to "the way it was".

67

Prohibition didn't cut checks to voters.

It didn't empty the pockets of them either.

68

Did that shit head really say that? After the same issue cost him the house and senate? What a lying sack of maggots. But you already knew that.

Posted by: maddogg at November 11, 2009 09:37 AM (OlN4e)

Oh, yeah, he said that and took a nasty swipe at "The Teabaggers, who are angry because we're winning."  His main target was reported to be "moderate" dem Blanche Lincoln (AR) and then he was moving on to Ben Nelson (NE).  Blanche is reported to be a dolt.  Nelson has always seemed to have a little bit upstairs.

69 Good news on Gallup finally polling in this dimension of reality, but there's still krep like the AP/Gfk poll, which is referenced today on yahoo's front page in an article.

The methodology of that special poll features a 43 dem/31 rep split- odd sort of sample, having democrats represented 12% more than Republicans. Yet how many spoon fed yahoo readers are going to know this?

Feckin' yellow stream media....

70 Blanche IS a dolt, but I think she can read her email.

71 Also who here honestly thinks the republicans will win over 2/3 of the house and senate in 2010? Honestly?

LOL, it is physically impossible since only 1/3 of the Senate seats come up for a vote each time and there are more Repubs up than Dems this time.

The only way it could happen is if a Japanese pilot named Sato makes an unscheduled and unauthorized landing in DC.

72 O/T, but I'm so pissed off I have to share it.

On a facebook page of an old high school ('77)  friend of mine posted a comment asking whether Hassan ought to get the death penalty.  A mutual friend (and Dartmouth graduate) responded with the following:

It's no surprise to me. It's a crappy war, and even the grunts in the US Military must be able to see that.

In fact, if they were true patriots, they might just lay down their arms and book the next flight home.

I don't suggest that they should then shoot their fellows, but I do maintain that our involvement there is a disaster of immense consequence.


I'm still shaking with anger.

73 72 What a fucking douchnozzle.

74 Still O/T, and I apologize, but I must vent.  Here was my response:

I am of the opinion that radical Islam has declared war on us. The only questions are whether we want to fight back and what the battlefield will be. I for one would prefer that it not be New York City.

The pacifist solution recommended by **** strikes me as dangerously naive. Of course, the quickest path to peace is always surrender. I don't think that worked out too well for the Cambodians, and it surely would not work out well for us.

Oh, and by the way, I hope they torture that b*****d before they kill him.

75 Hey Morons..
Need a reminder that government money is used by Dems to support radicalism on college campuses? Another friend of Obama? Mmm mmm mmm.

 Governor Deval Patrick today assailed the speaking invitation that a group of UMass Amherst faculty extended to a convicted terrorist, even after criticism from state and university leaders scuttled earlier plans for a speech.

    “I am more than a little disappointed about this invitation having been extended,” Patrick said at a State House news conference. “I fully get the point, and respect the idea of free speech. But I think it is a reflection of profound insensitivity to continue to try and have this former terrorist on the campus.”

 If Deval really thought it was insensitive, he could call out the PC Police and have the thing shut down in a moment. Instead, he’s having it both ways – pretending to care so he doesn’t do more damage to his re-election chances next year, but refusing to start a war over the matter – which would make the people of Massachusetts happy, but would upset his leftist base. What’s a wind testing politician to do?

 Ray Luc Levasseur, the founder and former leader of the radical revolutionary group United Freedom Front, is scheduled to speak Thursday night. An earlier invitation for him to speak at a library symposium was canceled last week amid pressure from Patrick’s office and from family members of victims of his group’s attacks, which included the April 1976 blast on the third floor of the Suffolk County Courthouse that injured two dozen people.

Will Democrats ever pay the political price for refusing to fight people who declare war on the United States of America?

 But a group of faculty members independently decided to invite him, university officials said.

The radicals, their salaries paid by the people of Massachusetts, are given the freedom to offend – with full support from leftist officials. Funny, academic freedom doesn’t seem so important when representatives of the mainstream America – ie, conservatives – are invited to speak.

    Levasseur was released from federal prison in Atlanta in 2004 after serving 18 years for his involvement in the radical group, which plotted a series of bombings and bank robberies along the East Coast between 1976 and 1984. The group’s followers were also convicted in the murder of a New Jersey state trooper, Phil Lamonaco, and linked to a 1982 shootout with Massachusetts state troopers. Police groups and the trooper’s widow have pledged to protest Levasseur’s speech.

Poor Deval. He’d love to do more, if only he had a spine.
I am so sick of the PCness and diversity (white is bad) Democrats.
..sorry if o/t

76 Notice how he gets in the "even the grunts"?Ah yes the John Kerry school of belittling the intelligence of service men.

77 It didn't empty the pockets of them either.

The 49% who don't pay federal income tax anyway?  They get checks.

78 Yeah, I saw that.  What a cocksucker.

And to think that he was a friend thirty years ago.

79 So what is captain douche nozzle going to say on Veterans day?  Probably some vapid politically correct pile of shit.  Man I fuckin hate that guy.

80 56
With the current leadership of the GOP I wouldn't be surprised if they fuck this up by running squishes and ignoring conservatives.

Posted by: YIKES! at November 11, 2009 09:46 AM (fUNEl)

As seen in the Hoffman race in NY, I don't think they're going to have the luxury of "running" whom they want anymore.  The conservative electorate is sick of it and knows we're at Code Red.  Look at FL.  The DC GOP power brokers have annointed Crist, but Rubio runs away with every poll.  I personally hope to see a lot of ex-military run for office next Nov.  Get thee to the www.GOOOH.com site and check out the citizen politician candidates in your area.  They are legally bound to their campaign platforms and to term limits.

Tim Cox, founder of GOOOH, is coming to Virginia Beach on the 18th and Chester on the 20th.  Calling all Virginia M & Ms! 

 

81 They're taking interest-free loans and investing that $$ into the market?

Tweet--

They don't even have to do that. All they have to do is borrow and buy Euros. Because their is no carrying cost at zero interest, the dollar only has to decline slightly (which it will keep doing as long as the printing presses keep running and consumers aren't borrowing,) in order for the trade to create a profit.

If you're a foreign investor whose assets are already denominated in another currency (say dinars), you can park your assets in the U.S. market at a bargain price due to the exchange rate for the dollar being so pitiful.

When enough investors do these same things, the market will keep rising and the dollar will keep falling. That is exactly what is happening.

82

79 So what is captain douche nozzle going to say on Veterans day?  Probably some vapid politically correct pile of shit.  Man I fuckin hate that guy.

Who would have thought last Vertrans Day that America would be lead by a Spineless Windbag Communist of African(50%) descent?

ME, Me, Me. I, I, I.

83 81 The rocket ride to hell continues.

84

If Deval really thought it was insensitive, he could call out the PC Police and have the thing shut down in a moment. Instead, he’s having it both ways – pretending to care so he doesn’t do more damage to his re-election chances next year, but refusing to start a war over the matter – which would make the people of Massachusetts happy, but would upset his leftist base. What’s a wind testing politician to do?

This seems to be the only deciding factor that nearly all politicians have these days.  Their freaking jobs.  And it ticks me off so much that I can barely think coherently.  That's why I think ALL political positions should be limited to only one or two terms.  The longer a human being is in a political position, the more worthless they become.  Then they are only part of the machine.

"We are the Borg.  Resistance is futile.  You will be assimilated."

Indeed.

85 But sickinmass, those were Marxist terrorists which, by definition, makes them "freedom fighters" to the Democrap (aka Communist Party USA).

In a just world they would ALL have been executed and the only 'talk" they would now be given is the squeals of pain as the barbed one gives them their final justice.

86

Does it really matter if there is a blow out in 2010? Seriously. When this health care passes the senate we are finished. FINISHED. We will become Europe where their "right" parties are to the left of American Democrats.

Sure it matters. It always matters. To declare health-care the hill you wish to die on is to define health-care as the sine qua non of American life. It's not. Yes, a government takeover of the health-care system would be calamitous (perhaps even ruinous); yes, it's an unconscionable power-grab by the government.

But it's not the end as long as people exist who oppose such things. I am somewhat old-fashioned in that I believe that principled opposition is morally necessary even when victory is unlikely. Sometimes all you can be is a good example to those who come after you. You can do everything right and still lose. It doesn't make the effort itself worthless.

This is an old-fashioned concept, though. There is an Attic Greek word (I think it's keioi) that is sometimes translated as "perfect", though it has a  more subtle meaning than that. It implies a moral and spiritual character, not a physical state. A warrior may be keioi even if he strives and fails, if his motivations were upright. The Apostle Paul often used this word when describing the love we should have for God ("perfect"). It is the striving that is important because it tests both the flesh and the spirit, and thus makes the victory (or the defeat) meaningful.

So what I'm saying is: don't be Private Hudson from Aliens ("Game over, man! Game over!"). If you lay down and die, that just makes their victory that much easier.

 

87 It can be repealed, it it's done before it becomes institutionalized.

Does the House bill have the same time frame as the Senate one?  By that I mean just to get the CBO scoring right, it started collecting taxes three years before it actually started providing the service.

If so, for the elections next year, it is possible that the taxpayers were indeed presented a bill and not did not get a thing for it.  I know the real reason for this monstrosity is to get the entitlement flowing.  At that point yes, it is a point of no return.

88

Now, Obama's approval rating stands at 54 percent, roughly the same as in October but very different from the enthusiastic 74 percent in January just before he took office.

He got 52% of the vote but his approval rating before he took office was 74%.  Did they include Europe in their poll?  Polls are about as credible as a circus monkey picking stocks for you.  

89

What will be truly funny is watching the Dims heads explode when all the polls show The Vapid One™ below the 50% approval range on everything. Only the most committed (and I mean that in the clinical sense) will continue to support him. Of course, that's a firm 30% or so of the country.

90 But are Senate dems dumb enough to believe what Slick Willy told them yesterday -- that the electorate (primarily in VA and NJ) is angry with them for not doing enough to pass death care?

You damn straight they are.  I'm gonna get even with those bastards for the way they treated Hillary.

91 Something not a lot of people are talking about:

The fact that Rep prospects look so good for 2010 means that the caliber of candidates we can recruit will be MUCH higher.  Whereas, the sharp Democrats (are there any of those?) will tend to sit on the sidelines rather than get blown out in a change election.

So our candidates get better and theirs get worse.

I think 75+ seat gain for Republicans is not out of the question.

92
If the Left can impose radical change on us, why is it so hard to believe the mainstream majority, in turn, can't reverse that radicalism?

Where is it written we can't undo crap legislation? With the right leaders we can do anything we want. Obama doens't seem to have a problem imposing his radical will on us, so who's to say the tide won't turn and be in our favor some day?

Lincoln is a good example of someone who made "change" despite it being unpopular and costly.

But a more recent example is Ronald Reagan who completely reversed Carter's policies on EVERYTHING. Reagan did it despite the media and the Democrats warning him, he did it because that's what he was elected to do by the people.

By the way, remember when Reagan fired the air traffic controllers and the Left and the media had a fit? Yeah, well, we survived. When we have leaders who aren't afraid of the shit-storm manufactured by the Left and the media, we will have change.

So who will be that leader who is willing to weather the storm? In the movie Braveheart, Wallace pleaded with Robert the Bruce to lead. He said, "Lead and they will follow." In other words, don't be a pussy; you have the support of the people who will go into battle with you and fight for freedom.

93 @86 - Thanks for that Monty.

@92 - W had this attitude.  Unfortunately W was no Reagan.  Is there a Reagan (someone with that Greek thingy Monty mentions) on the horizon?

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But are Senate dems dumb enough to believe what Slick Willy told them yesterday -- that the electorate (primarily in VA and NJ) is angry with them for not doing enough to pass death care?

Mind you, Slick Willie, right after the democrat disaster in 1994, was quoted as saying that Republican victories was an affirmation of his own election because the American voters wanted change and that is why he was elected.

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Yessssss!  Feel the hate.  Breathe the hate.  Yesssss - that's it!  Hate makes you strong! 

Good, the hate is strong in Hussein the Plumber. Soon, his journey to the dark side will be complete

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There is one other thing in favor of rollback:   The kenyan princess is destroying this country's ability to borrow against the future, and it will starve the beast more quickly and completely than even a repeal of the 16th Amendment would.

Innumeracy is retardation.

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But a more recent example is Ronald Reagan who completely reversed Carter's policies on EVERYTHING. Reagan did it despite the media and the Democrats warning him, he did it because that's what he was elected to do by the people.

The more recent example is  GWB. He overturned many of Clinton's executive orders including arscenic levels, Mexico City Policy, project agreements,federal land order, etc.  He fought and succeeded to get us out of the ABM treaty in spite of harsh criticism from both sides and he put the kabosh on any idea of ratifying Kyoto. He went beyond Reagan attempted to touch the 3rd rail Social Security but was derailed by his own and 9/11.  He did much, much more in terms of conservative wonkish changes that I haven't listed but unfortunately he was not and likely will never be given any credit by the 'conservatives'.   

98 We should use Obama's demagoguery against him.  Talk to liberals you know and says this:

"Yeah, Obama's magic is so strong all the Democrats on the ballot will win re-election easy.  In fact, you don't even have to vote!  Here, have another patchouli stick."

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For awhile I thought it was 50-50 that the economy would be coming back by the 2010 elections ('coming back' = sustained drop in unemployment, say four months).  Now it's probably less.  However, while everyone's dropping the 94 blueprint on 2010 I'd like to suggest looking at the 30s.  Look at a chart of the Dow from 1929 to WW II, and focus in on 1936, the year FDR was first re-elected.  Essentially the Dow during this period was a steep hill - up throughout 1936, down for the years after.  Then consider how our GDP growth in A3 was obtained.  Nothing illegal, I believe, but if the Dems aren't planning on cooking the economy in 2010 for political reasons (knowing the aftermath will be that much worse) I would wonder why.  More directly, what else can they run on?

100 Imagine what Obama's numbers would look like if the media held him to the big boy standards that other politicians are held to. His approval would be probably be in the teens.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 11, 2009 09:06 AM (E1aPy)

Evan Thomas, one of the deans of the State Media, estimated their efforts were worth 15% at the ballot box for leftists. This was pre-Obama though, so one would presume it would be more now.

Actually, I think an enlightening comparison would be Palin. The most recent poll found something like 70% saying she was unqualified to be president. Well, Palin's experience in 2008 was comparable to Obama's. Could Obama have been elected president if the press had turned an eagle eye on his sparse resume?

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