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Most Smartest Foreign Affairs Columnist Evah Finally Realizes What Most Conservative Blog Commenters Have Been Saying For Years: The Mideast Peace Process Is A Waste Of Time

Welcome to the club Tom Friedman!

This peace process movie is not going to end differently just because we keep playing the same reel. It is time for a radically new approach. And I mean radical. I mean something no U.S. administration has ever dared to do: Take down our “Peace-Processing-Is-Us” sign and just go home.

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Let’s just get out of the picture. Let all these leaders stand in front of their own people and tell them the truth: “My fellow citizens: Nothing is happening; nothing is going to happen. It’s just you and me and the problem we own.”

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It is obvious that this Israeli government believes it can have peace with the Palestinians and keep the West Bank, this Palestinian Authority still can’t decide whether to reconcile with the Jewish state or criminalize it and this Hamas leadership would rather let Palestinians live forever in the hellish squalor that is Gaza than give up its crazy fantasy of an Islamic Republic in Palestine.

If we are still begging Israel to stop building settlements, which is so manifestly idiotic, and the Palestinians to come to negotiations, which is so manifestly in their interest, and the Saudis to just give Israel a wink, which is so manifestly pathetic, we are in the wrong place. It’s time to call a halt to this dysfunctional “peace process,” which is only damaging the Obama team’s credibility

Wait, the Israelis and Palestinians have their own agendas and our presence and interference isn't going to change that?

After liberals spent 8 years bitching about Bush's indifference to the Holy Peace Process and excoriating him for paying too much attention to Iraq and not enough to the Palestinians, Mr. Establishment Thinker tells President Shout-Out to throw in the towel after 9 1/2 whole months of "effort"?

I seem to remember people saying the mere fact that Obama, with his charm, dreamy eyes and mutli-ethnic background, to say nothing of his awesome powers of Smart Diplomacy, would put an end to all this unpleasantness.

Now Mr. Three Pulitzers says, "never mind, turns out this age old problem was more complex than shouting Bush Sucks!"

I hope Freeman's next book is an autobiography. He can call "Flat and Stupid, My Life and Times".

Posted by: DrewM. at 12:14 AM



Comments

1 What an ass.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at November 09, 2009 12:18 AM (SHfRo)

2 Wow, and I used to think Tom Freidman was brick stupid. Turns out, he is just really, really slow.

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 09, 2009 12:20 AM (V9SYy)

3

Mr. Freidman's next brillant observation: Gee, Yassir Arafat really made a bad decision when Clinton had convinced the Isreali's to give the PLO 90% of what they wanted except the right of return.

Mr. Freidman will also soon discovery that his fellow columnist, Maureen Dowd, is a scrunt.

 

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 09, 2009 12:21 AM (V9SYy)

4 WAIT!!!  I haven't cleared this opinion with Letterman, Maher and Baba!!!

Posted by: tOM fRIEDMAN at November 09, 2009 12:25 AM (UaSIe)

5 Next bolt out of the blue for Friedman: hey, maybe this Obama dude really didn't do anything to deserve a Nobel Prize.

Or a Presidency.

Or anything other than a job at the local Burger King drive-through.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 09, 2009 12:26 AM (C51o4)

6 Oui, but a wannabe French scrunt!

Posted by: Maureen Down at November 09, 2009 12:26 AM (UaSIe)

7 Give it to me straight, Doc.

I'm sorry, but all the tests are positive. You have Tom Freidman Syndrome.

Noooooooo!

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2009 12:26 AM (jJ2r1)

8 Mr. Three Pulitzers just shows that the Pulitzer Prize means nothing.

Posted by: sk at November 09, 2009 12:27 AM (yM0al)

9

It’s time to call a halt to this dysfunctional “peace process,” which is only damaging the Obama team’s credibility

You mean in addition to insulting our two strongest allies, not knowing how to say "reset" in Russian, taking 10 months to decide what to do about the "War of Necessity"? Really, those things aren't hurting Team Obama's credibility, its the darn insistence of two groups of people who have been fighting for thousands of years to resist the charm of "The One" and continue to, shocking, keep fighting.

Tom Freidman....Idiot of the Year.

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 09, 2009 12:27 AM (V9SYy)

10

Mr. Three Pulitzers just shows that the Pulitzer Prize means nothing.

Hey, we are trying to get Noble Prizes to that level as soon as possible.

Posted by: Noble Prize Committee at November 09, 2009 12:28 AM (V9SYy)

11 Tom F. did not just now figure this out.

EVERYBODY knows this and has known it for decades.

Tom just doesn't want ME stink on Barry's ass.

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2009 12:29 AM (jJ2r1)

12

Dowd, Friedman and Krugman, the Trident of Death for NYT sales

A negative plus a negative plus a negative equals regular appearances on Liberal TV shows.

Posted by: Nattering nabobs at November 09, 2009 12:29 AM (UaSIe)

13 You mean in addition to insulting our two strongest allies, not knowing how to say "reset" in Russian, taking 10 months to decide what to do about the "War of Necessity"?

Don't forget being on the wrong side of two new foreign policy issues - election fraud in Iran, and Marxist dictator shitbrick's power-grab in the Honduras!

Sorry, Hoen-door-az.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 09, 2009 12:30 AM (C51o4)

14

Can't have peace untill the war is over.  The war is over when enemies are dead or give up.  What is so hard to understand?

 

Posted by: Naan at November 09, 2009 12:30 AM (YR3gL)

15 I actually know a lot of people like Mr. Friedman. Highly educated, lauded, lots of opinions on everything.

And too stupid to pour piss out of a boot.

Posted by: rawmuse at November 09, 2009 12:31 AM (GHATK)

16 [insert all-knowing smirk here]

Posted by: Tom Friedman is #1 at November 09, 2009 12:31 AM (UaSIe)

17 " It’s time to call a halt to this dysfunctional “peace process,” which is only damaging the Obama team’s credibility"

This is the crux of the piece.  He wants to give Obama cover to run away from the problem rather than risk his credibility.  He doesn't realize that running away from the problem would be MOST damaging to his credibility.  Nobody would take him seriously ever again.

What Obama could do is have a "come to Jesus" (so to speak) with the parties involved in a very public way.  He needs to deliver very strong words to the Palestinians that unless they start acting like adults, there is little anyone is going to be able to do.

For once the Palestinians need to be held publicly responsible for THEIR half of the problem.  This lunacy of placing all the burden in Israel to constantly find some sort of a compromise, only to be double crossed in a few month's time has to end.

And yet again, this is another world problem brought to you by Jimmy Carter.  His elevation of Arafat to "head of state" for the Palestinians has resulted in years of attempting to have negotiations with political adolescents.  We have wasted decades on a foundation of thought created by Carter that is about as concrete as belly button lint.

Put the Palestinians on the spot.  Shine a very bright light.  It is time for THEM to grow up.
 

Posted by: crosspatch at November 09, 2009 12:32 AM (ZbLJZ)

18 [insert a slight devil's advocate wave of the hand setup here]

Posted by: Tom Friedman is #1, 2 and 3 at November 09, 2009 12:33 AM (UaSIe)

19 roadmap

land for peace

occupation

the Palestinian People

Israeli aggression

shuttle diplomacy

Wye Accords

Oslo

Decades of this shit.

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2009 12:33 AM (jJ2r1)

20

This is the crux of the piece.  He wants to give Obama cover to run away from the problem rather than risk his credibility.

No more calls -- we have a winner!

Posted by: Froggy 94 at November 09, 2009 12:34 AM (UaSIe)

21 Seriously, Tom Freidman is an ass or stellar magnitude.

In Tom's simple mind, it's not about the palestinians, the Israelis, or any of the other actors in the area.

It's all about Obumbles' image.

Fuck you Tom Freidman.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at November 09, 2009 12:34 AM (SHfRo)

22 What, the "historic" speech in Cairo (to which President Clangingly-Stupid-F*ckstick invited the Muslim f*cking Brotherhood, forerunners of al-Qaeda), didn't solve everything? Barry's idiot baritone drone didn't soothe the raging lion? Didn't calm the waters? Didn't cause the sea level to drop?

Say it ain't so, Friedman!

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 09, 2009 12:35 AM (C51o4)

23

I actually know a lot [2] of people like Mr. Friedman. Highly educated, lauded, lots of opinions on everything.

And too stupid to pour piss out of a boot.

RACIST!

Posted by: Proud and Dowd at November 09, 2009 12:36 AM (UaSIe)

24 the Arab Street

CNN

Hamas

Hezballah

Yo mama

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2009 12:37 AM (jJ2r1)

25

Even as Friedman admits what an imbecile he has been, he can't stop himself from exhibiting further stupidity, and with an arrogant touch to it, too.  He claims that Israel's building of settlements "is so manifestly idiotic", but the fact is that those settlements are the only thing that has stopped the West, and the world, from forcing a Palestinian state in the West Bank determined to destroy Israel (and able to do so from holding state control of the West Bank, I would add, as they would have full air rights, would build an airport on the western border and would be able to launch a huge 9/11 style attack from "commercial" traffic coming in and going out one day, in addition to control of strategic water resources in the northern part).  (I would note that it could be due to Friedman's inability to write clearly that he meant to imply, instead, that our "begging Israel to stop building" is the idiotic part, which would be more accurate, but that would clash with the structure of the sentence and his list of respective descriptions later, so I highly doubt it.)  Friedman claims that the Palestinians coming to negotiations with Israel is "so manifestly in their interest", which just shows that Friedman still refuses to acknowledge that he doesn't understand what the Palis consider to be "in their interest" because he doesn't understand what they really want.  Big surprise, there.

Still, I guess it's a good thing that such a retard as Friedman is finally seeing the error of his ridiculous bleatings for the past 30 years, even though no one should expect him to come around to actually understanding the dynamics of the situation, now.  At least, anyone with sense who meets the fool for discussion will be able to tell him that decades of support for a policy he now rejects is enough to instruct anyone with a brain not to listen to his silly rantings, as he is just as clueless now as he has been for all of his life up until now.  

Of course, Friedman has no intention of letting the Israelis and Jordanian pals and Gaza pals settle things on their own.  Friedman just wants the US to retreat to the sideline and merely accuse Israel of everything in the book and shout "war crimes" every time Israel moves in its actual interest and for its only chance at reasonable self-defense, promoting boycotts, embargoes and .generally trying to kill Israel from a distance.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at November 09, 2009 12:38 AM (A46hP)

26 Does this essay have any affect on Tom's tiny carbon footprint?

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2009 12:40 AM (jJ2r1)

27

O/T:

Is it wrong of us to want Hasan's PC enablers court-martialed and drummed out of service?

Posted by: The Fallen at Ft. Hood at November 09, 2009 12:40 AM (UaSIe)

28 Peeeenis!

Posted by: Zombie Yassar Arafat at November 09, 2009 12:41 AM (jJ2r1)

29 Obama no longer finds this addressing this problem to be gratifying. He has lost interest in it, will ignore it from now on, and nobody will call him on it.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at November 09, 2009 12:42 AM (tm15w)

30 "He claims that Israel's building of settlements 'is so manifestly idiotic'"

No, I think he is saying that our begging them to stop building settlements "is so manifestly idiotic" the way I read it.

Israel needs to build places for people to live.  Their population is increasing.  So you build in places where it is most efficient to do so.  Places that can be farmed or have access to water or are near other things such as power and road systems.

The Palestinians could have a much better standard of living tomorrow if they would stop trying to pee up a rope to mollify their inflated ego.  The world is getting ready to turn their backs on the Palestinians.  They have had chance after chance after chance and they blow it all.  People like the Iranian regime are ready to fight Israel to the last Palestinian and keep stirring the pot.  Fewer people listen anymore.  The Palestinians are poor because they have decided that they want to be.  Nobody supports them except the international criminal and terrorist class. 

It isn't "cool" anymore to be a supporter of Palestine..  They are (finally) wearing on the nerves and patience of the world.  At what point are THEY responsible for their own destiny?

 

Posted by: crosspatch at November 09, 2009 12:45 AM (ZbLJZ)

31 Pulling out and going home to force the leaders to face their people and tell them that they have nothing and will be getting nothing?

It sounds like it's ummm.....The Middle East, what it has been for centuries and what it will be for centuries.
The question is and always has been, are we able to leave behind a more stable and hopefully more friendly land when we leave.

Friedman doesn't seem to understand that the leaders that he so wants to face some kind of violent or nasty music will become the next Talibanesk type of leaders.
The one thing you can expect Middle Easterners to do is survive regardless if the POTUS gives a Earth shattering teleprompted speech to sooth the masses and pull out.

Posted by: Drider at November 09, 2009 12:46 AM (aZn+0)

32 Get rid of the Iranian Regime and the Palestinian Cause will collapse.

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2009 12:49 AM (jJ2r1)

33 " It’s time to call a halt to this dysfunctional “peace process,” which is only damaging the Obama team’s credibility"

This is the crux of the piece.  He wants to give Obama cover to run away from the problem rather than risk his credibility.

Bingo.

Also, I suspect we're going to see lots of these little epiphanies in the next 3 years from the scary smart liberal punditocracy. Intractable problems that they excoriated Bush for 8 years for will now be described as, well, intractable. And the chief problem with them is not that they cause millions of people to suffer, but because they make Obama look bad. That's the main thing.

Next up:

1. "Trying to solve our economic problems is really hard."

2. "Hey you, know, that Vladimir Putin guy is kind of an asshole, and he tells lies, too."

3. "Well, it seems that North Korea is a hellhole run by a psychotic thug. Maybe we should have realized this by now."

Add your own!

Posted by: OregonMuse at November 09, 2009 12:49 AM (eR37w)

34

Mr. Freidman's next brillant observation: Gee, Yassir Arafat really made a bad decision when Clinton had convinced the Isreali's to give the PLO 90% of what they wanted except the right of return. Mr. Freidman will also soon discovery that his fellow columnist, Maureen Dowd, is a scrunt.

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 09, 2009 12:21 AM (V9SYy)

Actually, it was closer to 97%. The Israelis only wanted to keep what they needed for self defence. Arafat said couldn't take that to his people or they would kill him. 

Posted by: Bill R. at November 09, 2009 12:52 AM (EhlQq)

35 Shouting "Allahu Akbar" makes you kill people.

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2009 12:52 AM (jJ2r1)

36 No, I think he is saying that our begging them to stop building settlements "is so manifestly idiotic" the way I read it.

Posted by: crosspatch at November 09, 2009 12:45 AM (ZbLJZ)

I thought of that, but it doesn't jive with what comes after: "and the Palestinians to come to negotiations, which is so manifestly in their interest,".  He is still talking about us begging them to come to negotiations, but the description is clearly about the negotiations being in their best interests, not our begging ... although, the "is" does indicate that he might be trying to say that "our begging" them to come to negotiations is in their best interests (by the verbal agreement, it would seem so, though the "is" might apply to "com[ing] to negotiations") but I really don't think he meant to say that. 

Friedman is just a truly poor writer in addition to having the thoughts of a 3 year old.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at November 09, 2009 12:52 AM (A46hP)

37 When did this enlightened Liberal finally realize that The Islamic Religion is ALWAYS #1  and everything else is #2?  Will he now be drummed out of the liberal club of lockstep dogma.

Posted by: mystry at November 09, 2009 12:52 AM (kmgIE)

38 Protect Barry at All Costs.

As said above, this is just the start.

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2009 12:54 AM (jJ2r1)

39 Will he now be drummed out of the liberal club of lockstep dogma.


No I don't think so.  Tom is a pretty big hitter in the libtard world.  More then likely post 33 by OregonMuse is correct.

This is just a shameless attempt to give Obama cover.  They are re-writing The Wons history even as we speak.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at November 09, 2009 12:57 AM (SHfRo)

40

The world is getting ready to turn their backs on the Palestinians.  They have had chance after chance after chance and they blow it all.  People like the Iranian regime are ready to fight Israel to the last Palestinian and keep stirring the pot. 

Yes.  But, the unfortunate truth is that the world is waiting for Israel to take Iran out, after which the world is going to turn on Israel and try to extinguish the nation.  If the pals hang long enough, they might get everything handed to them.

Fewer people listen anymore.  The Palestinians are poor because they have decided that they want to be.  Nobody supports them except the international criminal and terrorist class. 

It isn't "cool" anymore to be a supporter of Palestine..  They are (finally) wearing on the nerves and patience of the world.  At what point are THEY responsible for their own destiny?

 

Posted by: crosspatch at November 09, 2009 12:45 AM (ZbLJZ)

You're correct, but no one really ever cared about the palis (except for the brain-dead students).  The Palis were never anything more than a tool to use against Israel, by the arabs and by Europe and the UN.  That's why more palis have American citizenship (like that monster at Ft. Hood) than have citizenship in any arab country, except the pali state of Jordan.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at November 09, 2009 12:57 AM (A46hP)

41 We relieve all the political pain from the Arab and Israeli decision-makers by creating the impression in the minds of their publics that something serious is happening. “Look, the U.S. secretary of state is here. Look, she’s standing by my side. Look, I’m doing something important! Take our picture. Put it on the news. We’re on the verge of something really big and I am indispensable to it.”

Not really.  The people in these countries don't really give a damn if we're involved or not.  Our presence or absence doesn't mean shit.

Posted by: Purple Fury at November 09, 2009 01:04 AM (5XyzC)

42 "Also, I suspect we're going to see lots of these little epiphanies in the next 3 years from the scary smart liberal punditocracy."

The most significant reason for that is because they are going to learn that you can not take philosophy from a book written by someone who has had absolutely NO practical experience in the application of that philosophy and expect grand results.  Not only does Obama have absolutely zero experience running anything as large as a hot dog stand, he is attempting to implement policy that exists only at the theoretical level and has never been seen practical application before.  They are pipe dreams of academics.  There is very little likelihood that they will succeed because it is fundamentally based on the notion that human beings have been too stupid over the past several thousand years to figure these things out.  It doesn't take into account that what we have now is an evolution where we keep what works and throw away what doesn't.  He wants to put us all in an airplane that has never actually flown before.  Chances are greater of spectacular failure than of success. 

Obama appears to be emotionally driven.  He "believes" in these things and these things are a big part of him.  When they fail, he is going to internalize it to a large extent and become depressed and angry.  His "vision" will come crashing down and since that vision is a great part of his personal identity, he will see it as a personal failure.  I am sure he has sat around over a lot of beers and a lot of bongs "perfecting" his ideology and solving all the world's problems, but now comes time for it to actually be put into practice and he had no practical expertise to draw from.  There are no experts with any practical experience in any of this crap that he can hire, only other people who have sat around over beers and bongs "solving" the world's problems. 

And when it starts to fail, they are all going to look for someone else to blame.


Posted by: crosspatch at November 09, 2009 01:05 AM (ZbLJZ)

43 If things ever got worked out there all the anti-semites on the left would be brought to tears not being able to hide behind their "anti-zionist" rhetoric.

Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 09, 2009 01:06 AM (dwwPD)

44 The Obama administration has no credibility in the first place, so I'm not sure what Friedman is going on about.

Posted by: ghost707 at November 09, 2009 01:13 AM (Rcz9p)

45 44 The Obama administration has no credibility in the first place, so I'm not sure what Friedman is going on about.

Posted by: ghost707 at November 09, 2009 01:13 AM (Rcz9p)

He's playing pretend ... in public.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at November 09, 2009 01:13 AM (A46hP)

46 "This peace process movie is not going to end differently just because we keep playing the same reel."

This makes no sense. He should have said, "we keep changing actors".

This guy gets paid to write?

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2009 01:38 AM (jJ2r1)

47 The Won is a ratfink!

Posted by: Sir Rodney the Chicken-Hearted at November 09, 2009 01:42 AM (UaSIe)

48 Tom Friedman, Czar of Pap

Posted by: Bhobama at November 09, 2009 01:51 AM (UaSIe)

49 Fun fact: A tablespoon of Friedman's brain matter weighs over 700 tons.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 09, 2009 02:38 AM (5Xf3c)

50

Palestine is a Roman construct because they didn't want to call it Judea after the destruction of Jerusalem.  The "Palestinians" are the local Arabs who either sold their land to the Jews during the Mandate for Palestine period or who left in 1948, 1967, 1973 buildups to war because the Arabs told them that this time we're gonna wipe out the Jews.  How many years does it take before you are no longer refugees?  They are pawns, shunted back and forth between Jordan, Syria and Lebanon at the whim of the other Arabs....who need the "Zionist Entity" to distract from their own inability to create any kind of a working civilization.  Isreal is the only green spot in the Middle East.

If the Arabs put down their weapons, what would the Jews do?

If the Jews put down their weapons, what would the Arabs do?

Easy answers aren't they?   

Posted by: Moron in Exile at November 09, 2009 03:04 AM (JNmwN)

51

Poor Tom, married with a silver tongue up his ass.

Posted by: Ann Richards at November 09, 2009 03:11 AM (SBIko)

52 So, now the Beltway pundits, after 9 short months, are sounding the retreat for President Hope and Change?

Retreat, retreat, retreat .... President Obama is retreating from so many areas so quickly that I can barely keep up. Perhaps the admirable VP Joe could post a blog to keep us informed of their latest retreats and the retreats yet to happen but clearly being contemplated by the Smart Power team.  The Retreat Blog. Not much hope but certainly a whole lot of change. Mission Accomplished?

Posted by: Jon at November 09, 2009 03:34 AM (Ys407)

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Posted by: salah at November 09, 2009 04:41 AM (vXUsD)

54

Next he will call for total neutrality - US withdraw all support from both sides. After all. It's only fair.

 

 

Posted by: davod at November 09, 2009 05:17 AM (GUZAT)

55 Posted by: Ann Richards at November 09, 2009 03:11 AM (SBIko)

You all can go to hell for bringing up that quote and sockpuppet.

Posted by: Tom in Korea at November 09, 2009 05:42 AM (nS7nk)

56 Remember the peace accord signed in the last Israeli attack on the rocket launchers. How Lebanon was supposed to supervise the zone and prevent future attacks. How the U.N. and France was supposed to stop the inflow of weapons.

If you do, I'm glad because from that latest news report it is obvious that the useless U.N. and France are doing nothing and the accord is worth just about as much as the previous treaties these douche-bags signed.

But I guess that is OK, Islam says it is OK to lie to your enemies and that includes treaties.

I wonder how much Israeli pacifism is brought about by our interference vs their own leader's incompetence.

Posted by: Vic at November 09, 2009 05:52 AM (CDUiN)

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The Obama administration has no credibility in the first place, so I'm not sure what Friedman is going on about.

He is desperately trying to create some credibility for them.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 09, 2009 06:03 AM (IPGTN)

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Posted by: maverick muse at November 09, 2009 07:41 AM (F1b/5)

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However,  he is a really good manipulator and he realizes that his constituency IS emotionally driven, and will get behind these airy-fairy pipe dreams, which he knows full well will end in disaster.  So it's easy for him to get them on board with this stuff, and he gets to move ahead with his plan which seems to be working swimmingly, and that plan is to destroy anything to do with the United States, Israel,  and Western Civilization.


Posted by: Miss Marple at November 09, 2009 07:41 AM (UQado)

60 I seem to remember people saying the mere fact that Obama, with his charm, dreamy eyes and mutli-ethnic background, to say nothing of his awesome powers of Smart Diplomacy, would put an end to all this unpleasantness.

Everyone seems to have missed the point.  It's not that Obama isn't as awesome as Friedman thought.  It's that, if the Greatest President Ever® can't solve the problem, it can't be solved.

Posted by: Steve L. at November 09, 2009 07:49 AM (Gkhxf)

61 After reading all the comments so far, I have come to one conclusion.  Joe Biden is the smart one in the Administration.

Posted by: Steve L. at November 09, 2009 07:57 AM (Gkhxf)

62 He did manage to avoid blaming Bush, so perhaps there is hope for the idiot.

Posted by: toby928 at November 09, 2009 08:08 AM (PD1tk)

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62 -- He hasn't found a way to work it into a comment yet.

I think this is a pretext to cut aid to Israel. 

Posted by: unknown jane at November 09, 2009 08:18 AM (5/yRG)

64 Crosspatch, don't treat them like adults.  They've done nothing in fifty years to earn this small thing.

Posted by: Obama at November 09, 2009 08:41 AM (f4sLg)

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Posted by: Cincinnatus at November 09, 2009 08:42 AM (f4sLg)

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I think unknown Jane has hit the nail on the button. What this Administration wants to do is just cut off aid (and military sales) to Isreal. At that point, the Isreali's would have 1 of 2 choices: A) capitulate or B) go all in and try to aggressively wipe out most of the Palestinian/Arab opposition to the point where they sue for peace on terms most favorable to Isreal. Either way - problem solved.

And since we are on the Middle East, can we, for the love of God, stop using the term "Occupied territories". The land in question was won by Isreal as a result of wars in 68 and 72. Under this definition of "occupied territory" New Mexico, Arizona, Utah and parts of California are "occupied territories" (won from was with Mexico).  Florida is an occupied territory. Hell, the entire country is an occuppied territory (used to be British, didn't it). Drives me crazy. Pro-Arab marketing tool.

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 09, 2009 08:53 AM (V9SYy)

67 Thankfully the leftards have WAAAAY too much invested in 'Palestine' to walk away. Their rallies always have a significant number of supporters of murderous turds. BarriO will continue to 'try' to work on this...to get a second Nobel...and fail. Hopefully the brain dead DemocRATick Jews will wake up that they are in a party filled with anti-semites. [That alone would fix the 52% problem. But we still have an electoral college problem.]

Posted by: torabora at November 09, 2009 09:00 AM (7iv2W)

68 #50...Don't forget Black September when the King of Jordan opened a can of whoop-ass summary execution and eviction down on these vipers.

good times...good times

Posted by: torabora at November 09, 2009 09:03 AM (7iv2W)

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Plus, if Obama were to ignore the Middle East, that would give him more time to work on solving a problem he can fix, like Global Warming.

 

Posted by: Tom Freidman at November 09, 2009 09:03 AM (V9SYy)

70 Tom Freidman's understanding of the Middle East........A -.

Posted by: Time Magazine at November 09, 2009 09:04 AM (V9SYy)

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Posted by: torabora at November 09, 2009 09:06 AM (7iv2W)

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Also, I suspect we're going to see lots of these little epiphanies in the next 3 years from the scary smart liberal punditocracy. Intractable problems that they excoriated Bush for 8 years for will now be described as, well, intractable. And the chief problem with them is not that they cause millions of people to suffer, but because they make Obama look bad. That's the main thing.


Add your own!

1.  Finding a way to handle dangerous, blood-thirsty terrorist is hard, because if we turn them loose, they will only kill other Americans. On the otherhand, if we detain them forever, without an American style trial, people will yell at us.

2.  Reaching an accord on climate change is hard because India and China do not even offer a pretense of wanting to actually honor any agreement, and all we will do is gut our own industries.

3. Not doing more domestic drilling for energy is silly because the technology for alternative energy has not fully developed yet.

4.  Electing someone with absolutely no experience in anything other than bribing voters with Kools cigarettes was really not a smart idea.

O.K., Number 4 is a stretch...I admit.

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 09, 2009 09:10 AM (V9SYy)

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Posted by: Justin Camp at November 09, 2009 09:11 AM (nF4Jh)

74 Well, Is Mr. Perfect, President Obama, can't accomplish something in 5 minutes or less than it can't be accomplished. 

One of the funniest claims of an Obama Presidency was that he would 'fix' the Israeli/Palestinian conflict and heal the breach.  Never ask how he would accomplish this.  He will do it just by being wonderful!

Posted by: kefka at November 09, 2009 09:20 AM (n1uMU)

75 Wait, it's "manifestly idiotic" for the Israelis to build, or not to build settlements?

It's not manifestly idiotic.  It might be irrational, or imprudent.  Or, it might be a good idea, because no one else will ever productively use the land...?

Posted by: ParisParamus at November 09, 2009 09:23 AM (wEolZ)

76

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(insert your own joke here)

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 09, 2009 09:35 AM (V9SYy)

77 This is the same journalist that sat in Beruit reporting on the insanity??? 20 years ago?

Posted by: torabora at November 09, 2009 09:46 AM (7iv2W)

78

While we are setting policy for Israel, add that when they start to kick as, the US can STFU.

Posted by: kansas at November 09, 2009 09:46 AM (ynT/h)

79 #32 The Palestinian curse has been with us since 1948. The Iranian curse fosters it, but it will continue to exist because nobody wants to live with these savages...hell, THEY don't want to live with each other either.

Posted by: torabora at November 09, 2009 09:49 AM (7iv2W)

80 2 Wow, and I used to think Tom Freidman was brick stupid. Turns out, he is just really, really slow.

Friedman is an economist by training.  These are people who are surprised and awed by simple mathematics.

Keynes discovers geometric series and he's some sort of genius.

Laffer discovers convexity and they still don't believe him.

And lest we forget the economists who made the blue lines in Geoff's chart.  Epic fail.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 09, 2009 09:51 AM (T0NGe)

81

A pointless waste of time? No problem.

Degrading to reason and common sense? No problem.

Cheapens morality and abuses diplomacy? No problem.

Damages the Obama team's credibility? NOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM!

 

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Posted by: David in San Diego at November 09, 2009 10:01 AM (GF+6V)

83 It's the JOOOOOOOOS that are doing it, they are hurting the Obama Teams credibility.

Posted by: robtr at November 09, 2009 10:01 AM (fwSHf)

84 Wow, Tommy finally woke up.  What happened?

Posted by: GarandFan at November 09, 2009 10:29 AM (ZQBnQ)

85 It’s time to call a halt to this dysfunctional “peace process,” which is only damaging the Obama team’s credibility.

Tom's just doing his job as defined by Gibbsy.  Now hopefully Bambi will read this and take his advice.


Posted by: rockhead at November 09, 2009 10:41 AM (RykTt)

86

Has anybody seen him and Krugman at the same time?  It strains credibility that there are three such idiots with economic degrees (I include Reich, but you can't fake being that short.)

What is with the dismal science anyway?   

Posted by: MarkD at November 09, 2009 10:42 AM (MMy4A)

87 71 Arc Lamp

Did you mean "Arc Light?"

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Posted by: Zimriel at November 09, 2009 11:08 AM (yt2K4)

89

Let me write Tommy Friedwoman's schtick for him.


Israeli's to blame.

Too big a problem for Obama to fix.

Should have been fixed earlier.

Obama is merely mopping up someone else's mess.

Israel's fault.

blah blah blah vomit.

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Posted by: Oppressed Ummah in hellish squalor at November 09, 2009 12:04 PM (9XOWS)

91 Did Friedman try to move those goalposts by himself? Dumbass will hurt his back. He better get some other effete intellectuals in there to help him with the heavy lifting pretty quick. Those particular goalposts get heavy as fuck after 8 years of having a cowboy in the WH.

Posted by: pendejo grande at November 09, 2009 12:49 PM (q2/Ng)

92 EVERYBODY knows this and has known it for decades.  Tom just doesn't want ME stink on Barry's ass.

Ding, ding, ding.  We have a winner!

The good news though if the left adopts this position is it pretty much inoculates future American presidents from having to go through the motion of giving a damn over what amounts to an intractable problem that can only be resolved by the principles themselves.

It would be a great relief to future presidents to not have to get out the crash cart and go through the kabuki dance of trying to revive the Camp David corpse every few years.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 09, 2009 01:13 PM (y1OsB)

93 It would be a great relief to future presidents to not have to get out the crash cart and go through the kabuki dance of trying to revive the Camp David corpse every few years.

Fat chance.  Like the homeless, lack of ME peace is only the fault of Republicans.

Posted by: toby928: Hatin' on the commies at November 09, 2009 04:28 PM (PD1tk)

94

Freidman has finally discovered the overriding reason to end the Peace Process.

Obama's credibility is being harmed.

 50 points and czar-ship to the House of Freidman. 

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98

Normally I would welcome suggestions that we stop sticking our nose into that problem - especially given that each time we do so it results in little more than shitting on our only ally in that entire region.  We won't do anything to fix it - ultimately the only solution to the problem that could work long-term is the irradication of the vile Palys.  However, as other posters noted, Obie's plan will be to cut Israel off from military hardware.  That's intolerable.  Personally I believe that God will take care of them with our without US help, but I don't want the US to be on the wrong side of history on this one.  And if my belief is wrong, then I still don't want any measure of responsibility for the 2nd Holocaust that the muslims would endeavor to bring about.

 

 

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