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Mike Pence speaking now, in favor of the amendment, thanking Stupak...this thing is supposed to go to midnight EST 7:56 EDT Stupak seems serious on this. ---- There are two procedural votes, one on ordering the previous question and the other on adopting the rule. This is not the vote on the bill itself but the rules under which the debate will take place. They are procedural votes that the Democrats will win easily, simply because they are leader votes and all Democrats will vote for them. Then the debate starts. 4 hours of general debate, 2 amendments will be in order (including the Stupak abortion amendment) and the GOP substitute. The abortion amendment is where the action will be. Under the agreement, anti-abortion Democrats will be permitted to offer an amendment on the House floor to the health-care overhaul bill. The amendment would prohibit a new government-run insurance plan created by the health-care bill from offering to cover abortion services, congressional sources said. It also would block people who received federal subsidies for the purchase of health insurance from buying policies that offered coverage for abortions. The deal clears the way for the dozens of Democratic lawmakers who oppose abortion to lend their support to the health care package, the most dramatic expansion of health coverage in more than 40 years. It also satisfies the demands of Catholic bishops, who otherwise support the House legislation. Republicans are saying they will vote for it, while lots of liberals are lining up against it. If the Stupak Amendment fails, will enough of its Democratic supporters vote against the underlying bill to kill it? Or if it passes, will enough liberals bail to kill the bill. My guess is the former is possible but the latter unlikely. Abortion supporters will hold their nose and simply figure they can 'fix' it in conference. Obama was up on the Hill this morning rallying Democrats for the bill. and right now the GOP says there are 21 Democrats voting no on the bill. Pelosi has 40 votes to play with. Politico has a list of the undecideds they appear to updating as announcements are made. Here's The Hill's whip count page. It's going to be a long day. Supposedly no vote until at least 10:30 tonight and those schedules always slip. Credit where credit is due, Pelosi was smart to allow a vote on the Stupak amendment. The GOP probably has to vote for it and it will pass. That will enable a number of swing Dems to vote for the bill because as I said above, liberals won't vote no just over an abortion restriction they figure will either be tossed by the Senate or eventually the courts. My guess is it will pass today, very narrowly. Then the battle moves to the more minority friendly Senate. UPDATE: The rule passed. They are now doing some sort of silly Suspension Bill recognizing the fall of the Berlin Wall. Fun stuff...Hoyer led the House in cheering for John Dingle. Nice touch and all but then a Republican got up and asked unanimous consent that Dingle be given back the Chairmanship of the House Energy And Commerce Committee. Pelosi replaced him, the Dean of the House, with Henry Waxman because Dingle, being from Michigan, would never have moved on Cap and Tax. They have dealt with the Suspension Bill and now it's on. UPDATE: Correction: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter points out the linked story is from yesterday and not up to date. ~~Delayed due to lack of support? Steny Hoyer says maybe.~~ UPDATE: As of about 4:30 EST the GOP Whips Office says 31 Dems are a No on health care. That's about 9 short of killing it, depending on how many vote. The question is, will some of them switch to yes if Stupak passes or worse, will some who would vote no if Stupak fails be yes because it passes with Republican votes? I get many GOP reps want to vote against abortion whenever they can but the way to ensure that federal funds don't pay for abortions is to kill Obama Care not to pass the Stupak amendment. Bohener just got Rangel to admit he can't guarantee that if Stupak passes, he can't guarantee that it will survive conference or that Rangel himself will vote against a bill that doesn't have Stupak in it. The GOP has to vote no on this. It's a sham. Kill the bill and kill it now. Posted by: DrewM. at 01:13 PM <script language="javascript" src="http://adserver.adtechus.com/addyn/3.0/5235/1131537/0/170/ADTECH;loc=700;cookie=info;target=_blank;key=key1+key2+key3+key4;grp=[group]"></script><noscript><a href="http://adserver.adtechus.com/adlink/3.0/5235/1131537/0/170/ADTECH;loc=300;key=key1+key2+key3+key4;grp=[group]" target="_blank"><img src="http://adserver.adtechus.com/adserv/3.0/5235/1131537/0/170/ADTECH;loc=300;key=key1+key2+key3+key4;grp=[group]" border="0" width="300" height="250"></a></noscript> Comments 1 Where's Judge Roy Bean when you need him? Posted by: Fish at November 07, 2009 01:14 PM (6mfq0) 2 Jim Matheson D-Utah will vote against the House bill. Posted by: Smarter Thanu at November 07, 2009 01:16 PM (JPKWk) 3 The Hill is reporting 31 no's or leaning no and about 30 undecided. Posted by: robtr at November 07, 2009 01:18 PM (fwSHf) 4 "Pelosi has 40 votes to play with." 2006 and 2008 really did suck, didn't they? Posted by: notropis at November 07, 2009 01:19 PM (ZbYDV) 5 "209 Grr, the server is acting up again! Curious? Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 01:15 PM (UaSIe)" Live feed from C SPAN which I still can't access as work computers are blocking it....ugh Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 01:23 PM (p302b) 6 Why is noone SCREAMING about the BIG LIE -- posting on the Net for a minimum of 72 hours??! Paging Joe Wilson... Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 01:24 PM (UaSIe) 7 the democrats have severely miscalcualted what will happen next year... they can ramp through this shitty bill if they want... its not going to pass thru the Senate and will die off enxt year. And 1/2 of the states have already stated they are not enforcing any of this shit. BUT.. they have now lost millions of conservative democrat VOTERS, they have lost lifelong democrats like me. Do they think people will stand for getting finded 25K or 1 year in jail.. who the fuck do they think they are kidding. 2010 will indeed be a like nothing these assholes have ever seen, because its not just the conservatives/repubs they have pissed off.. its the conservative lifelong democrats and independents like me who want them GONE! As someone who voted democrat all my life... FUCK THE DEMOCRATS! I cannot wait until 2010... I am going vote and campaign and fundraise for any conservative who voted and stood against this communist illegal piece of shit of legislation! Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 01:25 PM (ACkhT) 8 Republicans are saying they will vote for it, Thereby effectively passing the bill. Heckuva job, fake opposition party. Posted by: oblig. at November 07, 2009 01:25 PM (BxbeY) 9 It's over. Democrats are too confident. They have it in the bag. Posted by: BuckNutty at November 07, 2009 01:27 PM (lArRj) 10 Of course they'll pass it, just like they passed Crap and Raid--how's that working out for 'em? Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 01:29 PM (UBQGM) 11 Does it seem odd that such historic proceedings are occurring on a weekend at 1030 at night? Why wouldn't the demos want an event of such awesomeness happening in prime-time? I am, for the first time ever, openly considering revoking citizenship and moving to....well, I'll keep that part to myself. Cap and trade will seal the deal. Tax hikes/rates change with the party in power, but this HC and CnT will never go away. Completely o/t, anyone have a realtor in New Zealand? Panama? Costa Rica? Posted by: The Hammer at November 07, 2009 01:29 PM (YBTwf) 12 NO INCUMBENTS WILL GET MY VOTE! I don't care if they are Repub or Dem. Done! Done! Done! Posted by: Windsor at November 07, 2009 01:29 PM (5+sh2) 13 Yep, Kudlow knew this on his show. He and his guests had moved to the Senate passing it and how it will all but ruin the economy. He began talking about Americans getting their money converted to foreign currency and getting it out of this country. That's when I knew he knew it was bad. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 01:30 PM (p302b) 14 In the sport of politics I'm a freedom and America homer. Posted by: tachyonshuggy at November 07, 2009 01:31 PM (YRjsF) 15 Posted by: The Hammer at November 07, 2009 01:29 PM (YBTwf) Watch HGTV they have a real estate show about Americans buying property in all those places. Funny, last year I wondered why they had suddenly gone with American's buying property internationally. Now I see their point. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 01:32 PM (p302b) 16 If this and C and T get out of the Senate and to fucknozzle's desk, the elections in 2010 will be under the auspices of the Provisional Reorganizational Government. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 01:32 PM (UBQGM) 17 curious... are you talking about larry kudlow? he has a radio show? I didn't know that, where can I listen to it? thanks Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 01:32 PM (ACkhT) 18 on the bright side, i guess my gold stock is going up, up UP!!! Posted by: navycopjoe at November 07, 2009 01:33 PM (QRjFQ) 19 Loved the Pelosi - Belushi comparison on FoxNews. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 01:34 PM (UaSIe) 20 18 on the bright side, i guess my gold stock is going up, up UP!!! WooHoo! ... until BHO confiscates it. Check the history books. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 01:35 PM (UaSIe) 21 Wow what scumbags we share a country with. It'd be nice to see a coalition of rep guvnas invoke the 10th and refuse to implement any policy that comes out of that den of thieves. Posted by: MRI at November 07, 2009 01:35 PM (aVQo/) 22 You can listen to Kudlow here on Saturdays. Not so sure what time he starts. I'm usually so busy that I remember about a half hour into his show to turn him on. I have a thing for Jimmy Pethokoukas, he is such a hottie and so so brilliant. Anyway, he is followed by Monica Crowley who pulls no punches and is totally on fire today. she sort of re caps the week and has different perspectives. She is playing a Ft. hood soldier's dad saying hsi daughter called him and said "dad, I'm ok" and the dad said "what, what do you mean". And she said "oh I thought you knew, we had a terrorist attack". Monica is playing that and playing that and playing that. Link You just click the "listen live" button and the little box comes up and you can adjust your sound and all. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 01:36 PM (p302b) 23 20 thanks alot Posted by: navycopjoe at November 07, 2009 01:37 PM (QRjFQ) 24 WooHoo! ... until BHO confiscates it. Check the history books. The armory at Lexington would weigh in here. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 01:37 PM (UBQGM) 25 Shouldn't Republicans vote against the abortion amendment so the bill will get fewer Democrat votes? Posted by: FUBAR at November 07, 2009 01:38 PM (J5Srq) 26 thanks curious... I will listen in. Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 01:38 PM (ACkhT) 27 Pelosi: Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?? (Hillary was there) Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 01:38 PM (UaSIe) 28 speaking of which, is the opt-out option still in there? Posted by: Tweet's Magic 8-ball at November 07, 2009 01:39 PM (z37MR) 29 These people are crafting fiefdoms out of the labor of private citizens. This shit passes half my family is out of jobs, I'm out of a job. Fuck these people with a rusty pole. Posted by: MRI at November 07, 2009 01:39 PM (aVQo/) 30 It's over. Democrats are too confident. They have it in the bag. I tend to agree with you. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 01:40 PM (EL+OC) 31 1 Republican should vote for it and then call it bi-partisan when the media tries to spin the Republicans as hypocrites for voting against it. Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 07, 2009 01:40 PM (HAdov) 32 thanks a lot India -- India -- is asking for gold, not USDs. Good short-tem (for your investments), but very bad long-term. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 01:41 PM (UaSIe) 33 Why is the House voting as if there is only one party power the demrepublicrats? Why would they do this, what are they being told or worse what are they being threatened with? Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 01:42 PM (p302b) 34 "A yes to this is a yes to end the Constitution a we know it." Right on, excellent comment from that woman! Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 01:42 PM (9Wv2j) 35 1 Republican should vote for it and then call it bi-partisan when the media tries to spin the Republicans as hypocrites for voting against it. Actually, if it is going to pass, Boehner will probably vote affirmative. I thinks it gives him certain rights to move to reconsider that he doesn't have if he votes against it. Maybe that's in the Senate, though. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 01:42 PM (UBQGM) 36 speaking of which, is the opt-out option still in there? If you're a taxPAYER, it never was in there. This isn't Ragu; this is cheap, blood sausage. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 01:43 PM (UaSIe) 37 They are voting as though they have ajob for life. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 01:44 PM (p302b) 38 "A yes to this is a yes to end the Constitution a we know it." No, it's not. Their choice to ignore the Constitution has nothing to do with whether the Constitution lives or dies. It merely moves that question from the elected representatives to the States and the People. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 01:44 PM (UBQGM) 39 yes, but are the Dems pretending it's still in there? Posted by: Tweet's Magic 8-ball at November 07, 2009 01:44 PM (z37MR) 40 THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 01:44 PM (UaSIe) 41 What they are voting on now is largely irrelevant if it is passed. They could vote one thing now, and then do the exact opposite in the conference committee. If you want this to go down, you need to vote "no" all the way down the line. Posted by: Bender at November 07, 2009 01:45 PM (FDZUn) 42 speaking of which, is the opt-out option still in there? The last I heard about the opt-out option for states was that it would only be available after a period of several years. By which time, of course, it would be all water under the dam. Anyone have an update on that? Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 01:45 PM (9Wv2j) 43 Well if that Congressman job falls through, there is a cushy job that will open up shortly in the healthcare industry for them. Win-win for them. Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 07, 2009 01:45 PM (HAdov) 44 They are voting as though they have ajob for life. They do. I'm taking up a collection for 435 shine boxes. They'll be employed. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 01:45 PM (UBQGM) 45 Total expropriation of private healthcare. Fuckers, all that R&D, all the wonder drugs, all the biochem, all the motherfucking potential, all the good doctors. We need a radical downsizing of government post haste. Posted by: MRI at November 07, 2009 01:46 PM (aVQo/) 46 Would you like your shit sandwich on whole wheat or white bread? Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons amd the Odd Meteor at November 07, 2009 01:47 PM (erIg9) 47 someone needs to put in ana amendment which says that congress gets the same coverage as the common people Posted by: navycopjoe at November 07, 2009 01:47 PM (QRjFQ) 48 It merely moves that question from the elected representatives to the States and the People. Can't happen soon enough for me. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 01:47 PM (9Wv2j) 49 yes, but are the Dems pretending it's still in there? Rhetorical question..? Hell YES -- it's all one BIG LIE. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 01:48 PM (UaSIe) 50 it was in there, but the Dems changed the language from "shall" to "may." Posted by: Tweet's Magic 8-ball at November 07, 2009 01:48 PM (z37MR) 51 We need a radical downsizing of government post haste. Posted by: MRI at November 07, 2009 01:46 PM (aVQo/) Workin' it. Posted by: The Dollar at November 07, 2009 01:48 PM (UBQGM) 52 A lot of doctors I talk to say they will leave private practice if this passes and write a book and teach or maybe follow the banksters and leave the country and go to Singapore or China or South America. They are dead serious when you look into their eyes while they are saying that. A lot of them aren't re joining the AMA either. They feel it isn't representing their interests. So guess like a corn, like the retired person's association the AMA will be government funded. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 01:48 PM (p302b) 53 47: A Republican did and they wouldn't let it come to a floor vote Posted by: Huckleberry at November 07, 2009 01:49 PM (F71c5) 54 A lot of them aren't re joining the AMA either. They feel it isn't representing their interests. I read earlier today (perhaps on Politico? can't remember) that the AMA only represents 20% of the physicians in this country. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 01:51 PM (9Wv2j) 55 A lot of doctors I talk to say they will leave private practice... I work for a diagnostics lab and half our accounts are in jeopardy already b/c a slew of specialists are going Galt. They know what's coming. Posted by: MRI at November 07, 2009 01:52 PM (aVQo/) 56 If its OK to murder an unwanted fetus, its OK to murder an unwanted person. Posted by: torabora at November 07, 2009 01:53 PM (yq3Ae) 57 My friends were telling me they were getting tons and tons of emails from the campaign in the last couple of weeks with easy things to sign and forward to their representatives saying they want this all to pas, the whole shebang...And sadly they have been telling me taht they begin their day with sending out hundreds of emails which they ahve carefully put on one email to be mass amiled. They told me I was dreaming when I said it wouldn't pass. They said their internet campaign was mroe effective that "the stupid old people and their stupid tea parties that everyone in government is laughing at and who will be dead soon". I have had that told to me numerous times this week and I stupidly, naively thought faith in people mattered. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 01:53 PM (p302b) 58 I see that stupid fucking douchebag Steve Driehaus from Ohio's 1st district is on Politico's "undecided" list. The lying asshole is not undecided. He says the same thing for every vote. He tries to pretend that he is serious, diligent, and contemplative, but I got one of his staff to admit he doesn't really read any legislation. The fucking moron gets ripped to shreds every time he goes on any radio or TV talk or news show. Even Dylan Ratigan on MSNBC tore him a new one yesterday for not knowing what the fuck he's talking about. Count this retard as a yes, no matter what he tells anyone before the vote. I'm sure there are many more donkeys just like him on this. Congressman Steve Driehaus and Corky from the TV show "Life Goes On"...separated at birth? My sincerest apologies to Chris Burke Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 01:53 PM (AnTyA) 59 Do they think people will stand for getting fined 25K or 1 year in jail. Drudge is saying its 5 years in prison. My guess is they're going to have to build a lot of new federal prisons. There are some things in life one has to take a stand on. For me, this is one of them. Pelosi and Obama will have to send me to prison. I have no problem with being a "political prisoner". Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 07, 2009 01:53 PM (gTYUf) 60 Fuckers better drag me from my house before I buy their shit insurance. I'll live in a hut in the woods and make antibiotic elixirs from elderberries. Posted by: MRI at November 07, 2009 01:56 PM (aVQo/) 61 shovel-ready projects = stimulus! Posted by: Tweet's Magic 8-ball at November 07, 2009 01:56 PM (z37MR) 62 Does anyone have the URL for the CSpan live coverage? Posted by: NancyPelosi at November 07, 2009 01:57 PM (bemOD) 63 There are some things in life one has to take a stand on. For me, this is one of them. Pelosi and Obama will have to send me to prison. I have no problem with being a "political prisoner". The "Shave and a Haircut" tap means "Get the fuck away from the wall". Just for future reference. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 01:57 PM (UBQGM) 64 don't eat the youngerberries, they be poisonous Posted by: Tweet's Magic 8-ball at November 07, 2009 01:57 PM (z37MR) 65 A lot of people will pay the fine. But since the tax will be like 90% that means they will be using their food and mortgage money to do it and that is waht these horrors are counting on. They are assuming that it will just be too painful. Geez should have listened to the WS gusy/gals who said this was coming and havrr sprinted out of the country. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 01:57 PM (p302b) 66 The GOP is always outmanuevered. A united GOP vote against the abortion amendment could have killed it, and possibly the Bill. Gotta be willing to take big risks if you want to win. OK, so I guess the attention/time/efforts etc need to be re-focused onto the Senate. It needs to be totally killed there. Even stripped of a public option, abortion funding, and illegal participation, the Bill would still be a freedom and economy killer. Posted by: MDr at November 07, 2009 01:58 PM (ucq49) 67 I love watching these little speeches. There is always a call to history despite the fact that any serious historian will tell you that when you get right down to it most of history is bad, especially in polotics. Posted by: Rocks at November 07, 2009 01:58 PM (MTcoh) 68 A lot of people will pay the fine. Some. Some will quietly give themselves up. And a whole shitload will empty mags. Who exactly is going to be serving warrants? Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 01:59 PM (UBQGM) 69 post #5, under "curious" is the url for C SPAN as provided by "rewrite!" Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 02:00 PM (p302b) 70 shovel-ready projects = stimulus!digging up ammo cans from backyards across America. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 02:04 PM (EL+OC) 71 62 Does anyone have the URL for the CSpan live coverage Go to lucianne.com. She has a link to it through tv4free.net Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 02:04 PM (AnTyA) 72 Section 7203 � misdemeanor willful failure to pay is punishable by a fine of up to $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year. Section 7201 � felony willful evasion is punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years.� Posted by: Mike W at November 07, 2009 02:04 PM (7QO3K) 73 My guess is they're going to have to build a lot of new federal prisons. Nope. There will be camps. Work camps, re-eduacation camps, parenting camps... Just not soon enough for Michelle. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 02:05 PM (UaSIe) 74 C-span link Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 02:05 PM (9Wv2j) 75 CSPAN http://tinyurl.com/5vzstb Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 02:05 PM (UaSIe) 76 The fines and prison terms will only be used against those who are not cheerleaders for The Won. Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 02:07 PM (AnTyA) 77 "The Bushes made their private visit to Fort Hood's Darnall Army Medical Center on Friday night. Bush spokesman David Sherzer said in an e-mail that the couple thanked Fort Hood's military leaders and hospital staff for the "amazing care they are providing."" Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 02:07 PM (p302b) 78 shovel-ready projects = stimulus!digging up ammo cans from backyards across America. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 02:04 PM (EL+OC) That's the thing. This economy, this society, is on the verge of going in the shitter so big time that we may not recover. And if they pass this sewage, watch for major dollar ramifications when the markets open in Asia tomorrow night. I'm fine with an axe, a hoe, a rifle, and a can of salt. Problem is that I have one titted creature and three short creatures to care for as well. I think I can do it, but there's nagging doubt. Yes it is potentially that bad.. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 02:07 PM (UBQGM) 79 A lot of people will pay the fine. Sure, by dropping things like their homeowners insurance and just rolling the dice on various natural disasters. There's millions of people who are just getting by without govt "assistance", who aren't going to have the means to pay these fines, or buy the mandated insurance. Something is going to have to give, and that will be things like homeowners insurance, winter heating oil, nutritious food, etc. If you have a paid off house, you can go naked on homeowner's insurance without going to prison. Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 07, 2009 02:07 PM (gTYUf) 80 Is CSPAN taking calls? I like how the calls are 70% anti-Republican. Most of the calls, I believe, are made by Dem staffers and volunteers. Posted by: Tweet's Magic 8-ball at November 07, 2009 02:09 PM (z37MR) 81 Nope. There will be camps. Work camps, re-eduacation camps, parenting camps Camps are cool because the guard towers look so neat coming down. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 02:09 PM (UBQGM) 82 So we'll have to buy a service as a condition of citizenship. Wonder how long that'll survive a SCOTUS challenge? Esp. if it comes from an ex-pat? I'm looking at you guys & gals planning to move to NZ.... Maybe it can be a class action lawsuit. Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at November 07, 2009 02:09 PM (hCQG5) 83 Doe Monica Crowley have a clue about what is going on in Pelosi palace today? she is talking about saving capitalism with Steve frobes. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 02:12 PM (p302b) 84 Wonder how long that'll survive a SCOTUS challenge? Wonder how much anybody gives a fuck about SCOTUS, Congress, law, or anything else. I'm not in the fucking mood to sit waiting for my betters in government to tell me about what I can and can't do. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 02:12 PM (UBQGM) 85 Monica is buying the lies. She actually believes the Seante will stop this. Don;t think so, that will be the november surprise that people are talking about. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 02:12 PM (p302b) 86 I should shut up because I'm just sitting here radicalizing myself to no good end.. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 02:13 PM (UBQGM) 87 So thirsty ... Posted by: the tree of liberty at November 07, 2009 02:14 PM (PD1tk) 88 So we'll have to buy a service as a condition of citizenship. Except if you're illegal. Then you get all the perks, no taxes, protected class. A citizenship hierarchy. Posted by: MRI at November 07, 2009 02:15 PM (aVQo/) 89 heh, you selfish racist wingnuts are forgetting about the 'community service' that Obama will require you to do. hahaha, we'll all be volunteering for ACORN...by law! Posted by: Tweet's Magic 8-ball at November 07, 2009 02:15 PM (z37MR) 90 I should shut up because I'm just sitting here radicalizing myself to no good end.. Steady. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 02:16 PM (EL+OC) 91 People keep talking about "protected classes" and they don't men economic or social. I know I'm missing something. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 02:16 PM (p302b) 92 So we'll have to buy a service as a condition of citizenship. Except if you're illegal. Then you get all the perks, no taxes, protected class. A citizenship hierarchy. _________________ Except if you're a taxRECEIVER. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 02:16 PM (UaSIe) 93 Monica crowley is saying "we warned you, the revolution is real". And you are worried about radicaliszing yourself, she is telling this to thousands of people. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 02:17 PM (p302b) 94 What show is Monica Ctrowley on? Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 02:17 PM (AnTyA) 95 Free pot for all; it'll ease the pain. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 02:17 PM (UaSIe) 96 Oh Geez now she is playing "Revolution" by the Beatles....she is really really on fire today. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 02:17 PM (p302b) 97 Watching CSPAN. This is the first time I have heard James clyburn speak at length. The man IS Buckwheat Posted by: BuckNutty at November 07, 2009 02:18 PM (lArRj) 98 Speaking of Charlie Crist... Were those pics of him blowing out birthday cake candles real? Posted by: Tweet's Magic 8-ball at November 07, 2009 02:19 PM (z37MR) 99 What show is Monica Ctrowley on? Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 02:20 PM (UaSIe) 100 She has her own show on Saturday. Remember NBC/Universal promised her a show and then reneged? Well she has a show following Kudlow every Saturday on 77 WABC in New York. A friend tipped me off, they are live all day until the late evening. They finish it up with John Batchelor. A firend emailed all of us saying "thank God they stopped running the Hannity re runs"...here is the link: Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 02:20 PM (p302b) 101 Rosa DeLauro (D-CT) looks like Woody Allen. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 02:20 PM (EL+OC) 102 Who the fuck is this creature? She almost make Waxulon look like an attractive human being. Quick, pass me the eye bleach!! Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 02:21 PM (9Wv2j) 103 I say this as a freedom loving, Constitution loving American, who has been a 20+ yr lifelong democrat up until last year... FUCK ALL DEMOCRATS!... THERE IS NO DEMOCRAT PARTY ANYMORE... ITS THE MARXIST/COMMUNIST PARTY! I will NEVER EVER vote or contribute a dime to any democrat aka communist/marxist AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And as Bush said once.(Bush, who I cannot believe I hated so much, but compared to the communist in power now.. I WANT BUSH BACK!!).... 2010: BRING IT ON! are you listening trolls???? Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 02:22 PM (ACkhT) 104 Did you guys notice the link I posted up thread? I wasn't GWB's biggest fan but he is so classy. Friday night, without fanfare, he visited the shooting victims in the hsopital. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 02:23 PM (p302b) 105 99 What show is Monica Ctrowley on? Hey, douchebag..I meant right now? Nice spelling, dickweed. Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 02:25 PM (AnTyA) 106 People aren't going pay this "fine"... who the hell is the govt to fine people for buying something?? People are going to be shocked to learn all this crap, that;s when the backlash begins. People have no jobs and now you are going to fine them 25K or 1 year in jail. People would rather go to jail... and I know 21 states that have already said they are not mandating this crap.. and they will not allow their residents to be fined for buying this shit. Rick Perry... you lead the way!!! Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 02:25 PM (ACkhT) 107 "Nope. There will be camps. Work camps, re-education camps, parenting camps" Why do you think ObaMarxist has been playing kissy face w/ Russia. They've got lots of quality accommodations available at their gulags. Posted by: MDr at November 07, 2009 02:25 PM (ucq49) 108 Welcome to the party (as in drinking and shit, not political), John. Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 02:25 PM (YX6i/) 109 This bill will be known in the future as the House Democrats Unemployment Act of 2009. Posted by: robtr at November 07, 2009 02:26 PM (fwSHf) 110 Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. [at the voting booth and maternity wards] H. L. Mencken Posted by: Ace! at November 07, 2009 02:26 PM (UaSIe) 111 "105 99 What show is Monica Ctrowley on? Hey, douchebag..I meant right now? Nice spelling, dickweed. Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 02:25 PM (AnTyA)" Play nice please. 100 She has her own show on Saturday. Remember NBC/Universal promised her a show and then reneged? Well she has a show following Kudlow every Saturday on 77 WABC in New York. A friend tipped me off, they are live all day until the late evening. They finish it up with John Batchelor. A firend emailed all of us saying "thank God they stopped running the Hannity re runs"...here is the link: Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 02:20 PM (p302b)" " Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 02:27 PM (p302b) 112 beedubya Uh, it's your spelling. The Internet: It's not just for blog posting anymore! (TM) Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 02:28 PM (UaSIe) 113 Play nice please He started it Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 02:28 PM (AnTyA) 114 Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 02:22 PM (ACkhT) New guy buys the beer. Welcome aboard. There's lots of people like you in the country, now. You'll find out three important things about conservatives: Our guns are higher quality, our women are far hotter, and our sense of humor far outpaces the other side. Oh and #4: We're not interested in our feminine side. And that generally includes the women. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 02:29 PM (UBQGM) 115 I feel sorry for the mf'ers who come to try and arrest me for not signing up for Commie Care. there, I said it. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 02:30 PM (+FzLa) 116 If the democrats are stupid enough to ramp this thru.. I say.... let the destruction of the Un-democratic Party begin! Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 02:30 PM (ACkhT) 117 Rick Perry... you lead the way!!! Guy's been a conservative 20 minutes and he's invoking Rick Perry? Whoever handled the catechism of this guy just got promoted to Awesome. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 02:31 PM (UBQGM) 118 Monica Crowley is married to Alan Combs. Posted by: Donna at November 07, 2009 02:31 PM (6heFO) 119 I feel sorry for the mf'ers who come to try and arrest me for not signing up for Commie Care. there, I said it. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 02:30 PM (+FzLa) Nice job dumbass. Now "Cane and Walker Defense" will be mandatory at thug school. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 02:32 PM (UBQGM) 120 Monica Crowley is married to Alan Combs. Posted by: Donna at November 07, 2009 02:31 PM (6heFO No, her sister is. Poor girl. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 02:32 PM (+FzLa) 121 John, just a little bit more. You're almost calling upon Palin. You can do it. Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 02:32 PM (YX6i/) 122 beedubya I didn't invent search engines, or LMGTFY. They fill a need. The folks at LMGTFY recognized the humor in people asking for answers from others when the answers can easily be found on Google, etc. And that the questioners are sitting at their computer. Sorry if it got yer goat. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 02:32 PM (UaSIe) 123 Monica Crowley is married to Alan Combs. No fuc*ng way, she is not. Skeletor married some commie from New York. Posted by: robtr at November 07, 2009 02:33 PM (fwSHf) 124 Monica Crowley is married to Alan Combs. Posted by: Donna at November 07, 2009 02:31 PM (6heFO) Donna, as a woman, you just threw up in your mouth, didn't you? Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 02:33 PM (UBQGM) 125 Crowley is Alien Colon's sister in law. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 02:34 PM (+FzLa) 126 Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 02:29 PM (UBQGM) Thanks for the welcome. yes... I have noticed that. And I officially apologize for voting for Gore and Kerry. And every democrat. I only voted for 1 repub until last year, its was Ronald Reagan (and I absolutely do not regret my vote), I was one of those "Reagan Democrats", and last year I voted for my second conservative, Sarah Palin and absolutely do not regret my vote. I am more pissed as a democrat at my former party than I ever thought possible, these people aren't democrats, they are commies and marxists! Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 02:35 PM (ACkhT) 127 "118 Monica Crowley is married to Alan Combs. Posted by: Donna at November 07, 2009 02:31 PM (6heFO)" Oh please she is way too intelligent for that. No, her sister is married to Alan Colmes and after he tried to undermine Hannity his career went in the you know where and she, graciously, has let him ride her coat tales probably cause she love her sister. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 02:35 PM (p302b) 128 112* beedubya Uh, it's your spelling. The Internet: It's not just for blog posting anymore! (TM) Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 It was a joke, you dimwit Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 02:35 PM (AnTyA) 129 What are the chances for repeal should this get through the Senate but we regain the House/Senate before it actually takes affect in 2013? Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 02:35 PM (Ei3oZ) 130 I am more pissed as a democrat at my former party than I ever thought possible, these people aren't democrats, they are commies and marxists! Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 02:35 PM (ACkhT) At least they didn't put up Scozzafava up as their candidate for a special election. They have that going for them. Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 02:37 PM (YX6i/) 131 What are the chances for repeal should this get through the Senate but we regain the House/Senate before it actually takes affect in 2013? Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 02:35 PM (Ei3oZ) Zero, Obama would have to sign any repeal and that ain't gonna happen. Posted by: robtr at November 07, 2009 02:38 PM (fwSHf) 132 Alan Combs is married? Oh, please, God, do not let that mutant fucker spawn. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 02:38 PM (9Wv2j) 133 what are you guys, 12? Posted by: Tweet's Magic 8-ball at November 07, 2009 02:39 PM (z37MR) 134 Alan Combs is married? Oh, please, God, do not let that mutant fucker spawn. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 02:38 PM (9Wv2j) He married a Human, I don't think it's possible. Posted by: robtr at November 07, 2009 02:39 PM (fwSHf) 135 Rep Frank Pallone: Supreme Leader of the Strawman Army Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 02:40 PM (UaSIe) 136 undecided updates: Mike McIntyre (D-NC) will be voting No Allen Boyd (D-Fla) will be voting No Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 02:40 PM (dwwPD) 137 If the Dems lose Congress in 2010, Obama will be gone in 2013. He might be gone, anyway. Posted by: Tweet's Magic 8-ball at November 07, 2009 02:40 PM (z37MR) 138 If this thing passes the stock market should be interesting to watch on Monday. You can't take over 1/6 of the economy and some real bad shit not happen. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 02:41 PM (+FzLa) 139 INTERMISSION Ahnold's Pizza Shoppe Posted by: Stay Thirsty, My Friends (rdb) at November 07, 2009 02:41 PM (mkihu) 140 You can't take over 1/6 MORE of the economy and some real bad shit not happen. FTFY Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 02:42 PM (UaSIe) 141 If this thing passes the stock market should be interesting to watch on Monday. I'm seriously thinking of converting all my investments to rupees. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 02:42 PM (9Wv2j) 142 Herr, if your still here, would you be so kind to run up to the drugstore for me? I'm out of Geritol. Thanks. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 02:43 PM (+FzLa) 143 well, I have friends in Texas, they are democrats, pretty conservative democrats, and they are absolutely livid at all this shit. They own a couple of small businesses, and are struggling to meet their payroll. They cannot stand Rick Perry, but they told me last week, they called Perry's office to see his position on all this, and was informed that Perry will invoke the 10th and the legislature, which is pretty conservative will not tolerate any new mandates on their citizens and texas businesses. guess what? the democrats just lost a whole bunch of lifelong dems in Texas, they are backing Perry, even have posters of Perry in the windows of their businesses. I just wonder if the fcking Democrats have 1 clue how many dems are livid at all this shit and are leaving the party in droves. If not, they will in 2010. Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 02:43 PM (ACkhT) 144 Why isn't Charlie Rangel in prison yet? Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 02:43 PM (9Wv2j) 145 I am more pissed as a democrat at my former party than I ever thought possible, these people aren't democrats, they are commies and marxists! As a kid, my late father used to vote Republican, but basically said, "Ya know, there's not that much difference. They're a little more liberal, we're a little more conservative, but we both want the same basic things for the country," Now, I'm tempted to dig down and attach a generator head to his corpse. I'd make millions. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 02:44 PM (UBQGM) 146 141 If this thing passes the stock market should be interesting to watch on Monday. I'm seriously thinking of converting all my investments to rupees. ___________________________________________________ You're behind the curve. They're converting from USDs to US Gold. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 02:44 PM (UaSIe) 147 Zero, Obama would have to sign any repeal and that ain't gonna happen. Depends on the kind of Republican majorities the Democrats manage to manufacture with this vast over reach. Presidential vetos can be overridden. Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 07, 2009 02:44 PM (gTYUf) 148 Charles Rangel !1!11! Grrrrrr Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 02:44 PM (UaSIe) 149 Monica Crowley: "If you are a repthuglican you can't win without the conservative party. BTW, johnc_recent_EX-democrat, I'm one of Ace's "squishy independents" Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 02:45 PM (p302b) 150 Herr, if your still here, would you be so kind to run up to the drugstore for me? I'm out of Geritol. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 02:43 PM (+FzLa) You're wearing them, you dumbass!!! Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 02:45 PM (UBQGM) 151 Why isn't Charlie Rangel in prison yet? Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 02:43 PM (9Wv2j) Because he's a Democrat. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 02:45 PM (+FzLa) 152 Rangel could help the deficit in a big way -- pay his taxes! Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 02:46 PM (UaSIe) 153 Depends on the kind of Republican majorities the Democrats manage to manufacture with this vast over reach. Presidential vetos can be overridden. True dat. Can a US President veto while being impeached? Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 02:46 PM (EL+OC) 154 On another site someone posted a list of Democrats and Republicans being investigated and it would make your skin crawl. Got so upset, I forgot to bookmark the site. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 02:47 PM (p302b) 155 On another site someone posted a list of Democrats and Republicans being investigated and it would make your skin crawl. Got so upset, I forgot to bookmark the site. Check History; it's there Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 02:48 PM (UaSIe) 156 After the commies pass this healthcare bill they are going to legalize the illegal aliens, who will all vote democrat. So, the f'n enemy commies will have the votes to remain in power. Posted by: bowelmovement at November 07, 2009 02:49 PM (hGA6/) 157 Okay, I'm going to have a drink every time someone mentions Zombie Ted Kennedy. Who's with me? Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 02:49 PM (9Wv2j) 158 Curious, That fence you independents straddle, does it cause butt chaffing? Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 02:49 PM (EL+OC) 159 Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 02:45 PM (p302b) well, I'm an independent now as well, I never realised how conservative I really was until last year... socially I am more moderate... but very conservative when it comes to smaller govt, individual rights, national security.. etc. Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 02:49 PM (ACkhT) 160 It'd be nice to see a coalition of rep guvnas invoke the 10th and refuse to implement any policy that comes out of that den of thieves My Governor, Rick Perry has already said Texas won't put up with this shit. That's why he's ahead of KBH by double digits. Among other reasons. Posted by: Conservative1st at November 07, 2009 02:49 PM (iTe8G) 161 Okay, I'm going to have a drink every time someone mentions Zombie Ted Kennedy. Who's with me? Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 02:49 PM (9Wv2j) I am. Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at November 07, 2009 02:50 PM (UBQGM) 162 Isn't it grand, that after forcing the proletariat into a government run program with the threat of getting arrested if we don't sign up, that these douchenozzles will get to keep their private health insurance paid for by the American people ? Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 02:50 PM (+FzLa) 163 I am with you, my frien. Posted by: Stay Thirsty, My Friends (rdb) at November 07, 2009 02:50 PM (mkihu) 164 By the way, John, you'll learn to hate our guys, too. In time. Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 02:50 PM (YX6i/) 165 After the commies pass this healthcare bill they are going to legalize the illegal aliens, who will all vote democrat. So, the f'n enemy commies will have the votes to remain in power. Almost moot. So long as 'they' keep having seven kids while 'we' have 0.7 kids our democracy, our founders' culture is doomed. (climbs down from soapbox). Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 02:52 PM (UaSIe) 166 Undecided Update: Glenn Nye (D-VA) will be voting No Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 02:52 PM (dwwPD) 167 O/T: ever notice that so many Liberal males sound like effeminate mamas' boys? Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 02:53 PM (UaSIe) 168 By the way, John, you'll learn to hate our guys, too. In time. Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 02:50 PM (YX6i/) Throw 'em out. Throw 'em all out, burn it down and start over. The Capitol is nothing but a great big barrel of snakes. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 02:53 PM (+FzLa) 169 socially I am more moderate Natural Republican. Plenty of social squishies on here, including gay marriage proponents (including one of the co-bloggers, who himself is gay), some pro-choicers, though probably not as many, and other miscreant deviants from decent civilizational standards fellow conservative types. That shit don't bother us, generally, so much. Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at November 07, 2009 02:53 PM (UBQGM) 170 its over my friends....stupak has 220 votes for his amendment re abortion....... politico: Rep. Stupak says he has about 220 votes on his abortion amendment, reports my colleague Jake Sherman. Posted by Chris Frates 02:16 PM Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 02:54 PM (5r0Tz) 171 And that was a sockpuppet gone bad. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 02:54 PM (UBQGM) 172 OMG, Rewrite! I had the same thought as Eliot Engel was sashaying his way through his Pelosi-approved talking points. Plus, nice hair! Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 02:54 PM (9Wv2j) 173 Glenn Nye (D-VA) will be voting No Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 02:52 PM (dwwPD) That turd who represents my district Bobby Scott is going to vote yes. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 02:55 PM (+FzLa) 174 Rewrite! thank you. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 02:55 PM (p302b) 175 "about 220" and "200" are very different things... Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 02:55 PM (dwwPD) 176 heh, oops, so are "About 220" and "220." Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 02:55 PM (dwwPD) 177 Melissa Bean (D-Il) will be voting Yes Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 02:57 PM (dwwPD) 178 LikeATimeBomb (R-Or) will be voting to Get Drunk. He will, however, be back later. Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 02:57 PM (dwwPD) 179 i hope you're right likeatimebomb.... its a turning point in american history Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 02:57 PM (5r0Tz) 180 That turd who represents my district Bobby Scott is going to vote yes. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 02:55 PM (+FzLa) two words: Jim McDermott Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 02:58 PM (YX6i/) 181 And that was a sockpuppet gone bad. WHERE??! Why, I'll murderlize 'im! Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 02:58 PM (UaSIe) 182 So let's say I refuse to purchase government health insurance. Who exactly will show up to arrest me? The County Sherriff's Dept? The FBI? Will I be read my rights? Will I be able to enter a plea before a judge? Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 07, 2009 02:58 PM (R6fjc) 183 LATB, wait! Where are you getting these updates? Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 02:58 PM (9Wv2j) 184 "158 Curious, That fence you independents straddle, does it cause butt chaffing? Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 02:49 PM (EL+OC)" I'm afraid of "frozen face" (monica crowley's term for nanny p), she has made "conservative" a very dirty word these days. A lot of people are running from the label yet seizing the ideology. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 02:58 PM (p302b) 185 I'm so furious right now, I could drag a hippy from his Prius and start punching him in the face. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 02:59 PM (+FzLa) 186 peaches - its from politico - updated every time a new name comes in..this is the list of undecideds, obviously all Dems: My colleague Jonathan Allen has a list of the undecided votes to watch today. The balance hangs, more or less, with these 41 members, about one-third of whom could kill the bill if added to the more than twenty no's we already have. We'll update this throughout the day as their positions become known. Melissa Bean -- Yes Dennis Cardoza Jim Cooper -- Yes at 11 a.m. Jim Costa Lincoln Davis Betsy Markey Michael Michaud Scott Murphy Bart Stupak John Barrow Marion Berry Rick Boucher Ben Chandler Joe Donnelly Tim Holden Mike McIntyre -- No Harry Mitchell Heath Shuler Zack Space Allen Boyd -- No Gabrielle Giffords Dan Maffei Ron Klein Glenn Nye Michael Arcuri Henry Cuellar Chet Edwards Brad Ellsworth Paul Kanjorski Ann Kirkpatrick John Boccieri Chris Carney Steve Driehaus Bob Etheridge Marcy Kaptur Dennis Kucinich Ciro Rodriguez Kurt Schrader Adam Smith Gary Peters Tom Perriello UPDATE1: Loretta Sanchez Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:00 PM (5r0Tz) 187 Peaches, NRO, politico, and constantly searching google news (just keep on punching in undecideds names and search for news within the last hour) Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 03:00 PM (dwwPD) 188 I'm so furious right now, I could drag a hippy from his Prius and start punching him in the face. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 02:59 PM (+FzLa) Use the cane. With the osteporosis and shit you'll break something otherwise. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 03:00 PM (UBQGM) 189 I'm so furious right now, I could drag a hippy from his Prius and start punching him in the face. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 02:59 PM (+FzLa) You have to be mad to do that? Posted by: robtr at November 07, 2009 03:00 PM (fwSHf) 190 I just emailed Wexler and Nelson to say they better build more prisons. Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 07, 2009 03:00 PM (gTYUf) 191 So let's say I refuse to purchase government health insurance. Who exactly will show up to arrest me? The IRS Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 03:00 PM (UaSIe) 192 I'm so furious right now, I could drag a hippy from his Prius and start punching him in the face. How would that be any different from your normal after-dinner routine? Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 07, 2009 03:01 PM (R6fjc) 193 (The politico list is definitive but seems a little behind, i think they're making sure to double check first) Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 03:01 PM (dwwPD) 194 @160 Texans face a real dilemma. KBH doesn't fit the classical definition of RINO, but why split hairs. In spite of that, I'd rather she stay in the Senate (although I'm pretty sure it's Governor or bust). She ain't perfect, but in Texas our borders are wide open. More and more undocumented Democrats arrive everyday. Believe me, they do get to vote. In Texas, a utility bill, allows you to vote. Posted by: MDr at November 07, 2009 03:02 PM (ucq49) 195 I'm so furious right now, I could drag a hippy from his Prius and start punching him in the face. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 02:59 PM (+FzLa) You have to be mad to do that? Posted by: robtr at November 07, 2009 03:00 PM (fwSHf) Don't worry sonny, I'm taking Boniva. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 03:02 PM (+FzLa) 196 191 that's right, and prosecution criminally under tax evasion law. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:02 PM (5r0Tz) 197 I'm so furious right now, I could drag a hippy from his Prius and start punching him in the face. Settle down now. Switch to coffee, or 3.2%. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 03:03 PM (UaSIe) 198 Thanks, guys! And, Blazer, I do hope you will be posting video or at least pics. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 03:04 PM (9Wv2j) 199 that's right, and prosecution criminally under tax evasion law. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:02 PM (5r0Tz) Club Fed, here I come ! Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 03:04 PM (+FzLa) 200 Don't worry sonny, I'm taking Boniva. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 03:02 PM (+FzLa) Hee Hee. Well done. Or fucked up. Either way, A-. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 03:04 PM (UBQGM) 201 BHO and Pelosi will be twisting arms in the wee wee hours of the morning. The same fatigued hours that cops and infomercials use on their targets. Pray for strength and discernment. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 03:06 PM (UaSIe) 202 I did not know this before, but the Army-Air Force game is also known as the Commander-in-Chief's game. Fuck...it's gonna be hard watching it for the next few years. BTW, I found out about this on a promo for the broadcast during the Monica Ctrowley Show on WABC Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 03:06 PM (AnTyA) 203 the only hope to stop this bill is GOP subterfuge, to let the liberal Dems vote first on the amendment re abortion, and once there are 218 minus GOP members voting against, all the GOP votes against and the amendment dies, along with Pelosicare. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:07 PM (5r0Tz) 204 one last one before i head out Ann Kirkpatrick (D-AZ) will be voting Yes according to her website. Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 03:07 PM (dwwPD) 205 Bye, gotta go run some errands. Pass it or not... the UN-democratic Party just showed lifelong dems like me that they are now the communist/marxist party. There was a time in my voting lifetime, when the dems and repubs both respected the US constitution, they believed in strong national defense, the basic founding principles of this country, both parties believed it. The dems were just a bit more liberal. Now, this fcking Un-democratic party has shown itself to be a communist/marxist party, these people are not democrats, heck they don't even believe in the basic founding principles of this country, they are commies and marxists. So, pass it or not, states aren't going to stand for this shit and neither are freedom-loving, constitution-loving citizens like myself. Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 03:08 PM (ACkhT) 206 Ohhhhhhhhh Olympia. Do you hear me calling baby? Slip into my warm wanting embrace and become one with me. Posted by: History at November 07, 2009 03:09 PM (+FzLa) 207 the only hope to stop this bill is GOP subterfuge, to let the liberal Dems vote first on the amendment re abortion, and once there are 218 minus GOP members voting against, all the GOP votes against and the amendment dies, along with Pelosicare. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:07 PM (5r0Tz) You sir, are a dick. An underhanded no good snake of a man, without the decency of a scorpion. I heartily approve. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 03:09 PM (UBQGM) 208 "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." -Ronald Reagan "Freedom is never more than a president's first term away from extinction." -Me Posted by: Tweet's Magic 8-ball at November 07, 2009 03:10 PM (z37MR) 209 Don't worry sonny, I'm taking Boniva. We need you, and millions of other women, on Annuale. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 03:10 PM (UaSIe) 210 You're behind the curve. They're converting from USDs to US Gold. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 02:44 PM (UaSIe) I always said that if I ever win the lottery, I'm buying a shitload of gold. Actual gold bricks, not some paper that says I have gold in a far off vault. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 03:13 PM (Ei3oZ) 211 Freedom (and especially property rights) is allusion and something we never truly had to begin with. Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 07, 2009 03:14 PM (HAdov) 212 4 horses in photo finish!!!! Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 03:14 PM (YX6i/) 213 In Barry's small, demented mind, it is all about him. What an asshole. Posted by: bowelmovement at November 07, 2009 03:15 PM (hGA6/) 214 Oh, this isn't the Breeders Cup thread? Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 03:15 PM (YX6i/) 215 #214 I was confused at first with the earlier talk, but it turns out those weren't horses, they were just Democratic women Reps that looked like horses. Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 07, 2009 03:16 PM (HAdov) 216 Watch our shithead broke-on-its-ass country destroy itself like some hobo jumping onto the railway tracks. Posted by: TexasJew at November 07, 2009 03:17 PM (SjlJR) 217 Here's a leftist bastard in the UK, soon to be leader of the Labour Party, pretty explicitly stating that Obama plans on taking the US down as world leader: In a speech to London's Fabian Society think tank, Miliband said those sniping at Obama failed to understand the scale of challenges facing the international community, or the shifting power centers of global politics. Obama has been criticized in recent months over his divisive health care plans and a prolonged decision-making process over whether to send more troops to Afghanistan. He also has been chided for making little headway in promoting Middle East peace, and has been dogged by rising unemployment and a sour economy. "A year on from President Obama's election, people are already questioning why he has not already solved the world's problems. But the whole point of Obama's campaign was that the power and responsibility to change the world is distributed," Miliband said. "It is only through working together � citizens, business and government; emerging and existing powers � that we can overcome problems too big for any single leader or any single nation. We all have to play a role. That is the real change we need," he said. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:18 PM (5r0Tz) 218 For the Monica Crowley fans, here is a list of her stations and times. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 03:19 PM (p302b) 219 Watch our shithead broke-on-its-ass country destroy itself like some hobo jumping onto the railway tracks. Just BHO, paving the way for the AntiChrist. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 03:19 PM (UaSIe) 220 Fuck it...I'm outta here Posted by: Lady Liberty, NY Harbor at November 07, 2009 03:19 PM (AnTyA) 221 Oh, here's Bawney. Giant flaming douchenozzle. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 03:20 PM (9Wv2j) 222 Barney Fwank reading his script. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 03:20 PM (EL+OC) 223 Okay, granted my attention has been elsewhere at times, but has ANY dem stood up in this debate against the bill? Because if not, damn what a waste of time - it's not like we don't know how those speaking are going to vote. I want those undecideds on the floor hashing it out, not those whose votes are already guaranteed yay/nay. Besides, I want to see Kucinich say he's undecided because he's holding out for full-on single payer and maybe talk about them thar UFO's some more. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 03:21 PM (Ei3oZ) 224 Bwawney is now speaking on behalf of Brokeback Mtn ranchers and Tuna Fisherwomen everywhere. Seriously. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 03:21 PM (UaSIe) 225 arg----Boehner says GOP will vote for Stupak amendment.... Rumors have been flying this morning about a stealth plan for Republicans -- who are almost universally opposed to abortion -- to vote "present" on the Democratic compromise restricting federal funding for abortion. That could scuttle the Democrat's hastily-arranged health care endgame, by leaving a bloc of several dozens conservatives with nothing to show for their last minute anti-abortion push. But Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) swatted them down saying he knew of no organized effort to sabotage the vote and planned to whip the 177-member GOP conference in favor of Stupak. "We are for the Stupak amendment," Boehner told reporters just now. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:22 PM (5r0Tz) 226 Watch our shithead broke-on-its-ass country destroy itself like some hobo jumping onto the railway tracks. Posted by: TexasJew at November 07, 2009 03:17 PM (SjlJR) Should I bring my Grooler? Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 03:22 PM (UBQGM) 227 Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:18 PM (5r0Tz) My friend emailed me before, she is into that psychic stuff and she said her psychic put on their website that hillary will be the next president. I laughed a lot. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 03:23 PM (p302b) 228 222 Barney Fwank reading his script. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 03:20 PM (EL+OC) Barmey wants to make sure than anyone who gets injured while being fistfucked by someone with hammer thumbs is covered by this bill. It's on page 1749. Posted by: TexasJew at November 07, 2009 03:23 PM (SjlJR) 229 Barney Fwank reading his script. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 03:20 PM (EL+OC) Dribble Drivel. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 03:23 PM (UBQGM) 230 Is that Amy Poehler? Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 03:23 PM (9Wv2j) 231 Should I bring my Grooler? Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 03:22 PM (UBQGM) Is it full? Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 03:24 PM (YX6i/) 232 Barmey wants to make sure than anyone who gets injured while being fistfucked by someone with hammer thumbs is covered by this bill. It's on page 1749. Kinky..? Is that you? Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 03:25 PM (UaSIe) 233 Coburn wants the entire bill read aloud on the floor, all 1,990 pages of it. lol. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 03:25 PM (Ei3oZ) 234 Rumors have been flying this morning about a stealth plan for Republicans -- who are almost universally opposed to abortion -- to vote "present" on the Democratic compromise restricting federal funding for abortion. I think you're right that could--could--potentially shit-can the bill. If it's a risk worth taking, why the fuck not? Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 03:25 PM (UBQGM) 235 227 well if its 2012 i'd take it over Obama, that's for sure. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:25 PM (5r0Tz) 236 Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:22 PM (5r0Tz) Boehner the boner. What a worthless POS. He kept his job after 2006 and 2008. Explain that to me. Posted by: TexasJew at November 07, 2009 03:26 PM (SjlJR) 237 If this POS passes and I mean in the senate as I know it will pass in the house, then Texas will look real good for the new revolution. Also WTF is with the Catholic church supporting this POS. Posted by: VELVET AMBITION at November 07, 2009 03:27 PM (fdW6J) 238 234 we can only pray that Boehner is playing that game..... Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:27 PM (5r0Tz) 239 I'll bring a couple of granpa's Growlers Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 03:27 PM (UaSIe) 240 Also WTF is with the Catholic church supporting this POS. Posted by: VELVET AMBITION at November 07, 2009 03:27 PM (fdW6J) Gotta keep that tax examption status... Posted by: TexasJew at November 07, 2009 03:28 PM (SjlJR) 241 Also WTF is with the Catholic church supporting this POS. Because they want all their illegal alien parishioners to procreate with abandon. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 03:28 PM (9Wv2j) 242 "237 If this POS passes and I mean in the senate as I know it will pass in the house, then Texas will look real good for the new revolution. Also WTF is with the Catholic church supporting this POS. Posted by: VELVET AMBITION at November 07, 2009 03:27 PM (fdW6J)" Been asking the same question about the Catholic Church and then a friend told me that they donate ten million plus to A corn and I got my answer. the only way to fight them is to stop donating and that is exactly what I have done and told anyone who will listen. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 03:29 PM (p302b) 243 Repubs should vote against the abortion amendment to prevent it being used as cover for the dems in swing districts. The dems will find a way to add it back in next year if it gets defeated this time. Repubs are a stupid lot. Posted by: RTH615 at November 07, 2009 03:30 PM (0KuJp) 244 Gotta keep that tax examption status -- and their pedophiles out of the courts! Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 03:30 PM (UaSIe) 245 Wonder how many conservatives with name recognition, the ability to raise money and the chance to actually win a red district will challenge these "Blue Dogs" who voted YES next year? Posted by: Conservative1st at November 07, 2009 03:31 PM (iTe8G) 246 Been asking the same question about the Catholic Church and then a friend told me that they donate ten million plus to A corn and I got my answer. Well, there is little difference between the Dems and Liberation Theology. At least so says The Right Reverend Jeremiah ChickenFuckerRooster Wright. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 03:32 PM (UBQGM) 247 On the record: OUR NATION IS GOING BROKE. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 03:32 PM (UaSIe) 248 On the record: OUR NATION IS GOING BROKE. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 03:32 PM (UaSIe) You no mo oder fum us til you pay fo las night Peking Poodle!! Posted by: China at November 07, 2009 03:33 PM (UBQGM) 249 195 I'm so furious right now, I could drag a hippy from his Prius and start punching him in the face. -------------------------------------------------------- I was sitting at a stoplight the other day when I looked over to my right and saw a family of four in a Prius all staring at me. The kids had their mouths hanging open and eyes wide open like they couldn't believe what they were seeing, and mom and dad (who was a dead ringer for Ned Flanders from The Simpsons) were just glaring at me. I was wondering what the fuck their problem was...and then I remembered my "Obama is Acting Stupidly" bumper sticker (sorry...my italics won't turn off) Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 03:33 PM (AnTyA) 250 Wonder how many conservatives with name recognition, the ability to raise money and the chance to actually win a red district will challenge these "Blue Dogs" who voted YES next year? Not nearly enough, and the vote splits will kill us. But we can dream. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 03:34 PM (UaSIe) 251 248 LOL Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 03:35 PM (UaSIe) 252 I was sitting at a stoplight the other day when I looked over to my right and saw a family of four in a Prius all staring at me. The kids had their mouths hanging open and eyes wide open like they couldn't believe what they were seeing, and mom and dad (who was a dead ringer for Ned Flanders from The Simpsons) were just glaring at me. I was wondering what the fuck their problem was...and then I remembered my "Obama is Acting Stupidly" bumper sticker They look away if you hold up your pistol and your Bible. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 03:36 PM (UBQGM) 253 All but over according to Walter Russell Mead....big sigh....Jim Cooper is a piece of trash and Tennessee will vote is worthless ass out of office, guaranteed. Henry A. Kissinger senior fellow for U.S. foreign policy, CFR : The health care bill took two giant steps forward today, at least on its route through the House. Jim Cooper, a wily Blue Dog Democrat from Tennessee and one of the smartest people in Congress, announced he will support the bill in the House, though he's not yet committed on whatever bill will emerge from a House-Senate conference down the road. And the Roman Catholic bishops of the United States have indicated that they support abortion language that the House leadership will allow in an amendment. Both endorsements matter. Cooper (an old friend, I admit to head off any conflict-of-interest charges) lost his Congressional seat over Hillarycare back in the nineties. Nobody has studied the politics and policy of health care like Jim; if the bill can get his support, however limited, it's a sign that it's been shaped in ways that conservative Dems can accept. As for the deal with the bishops, that is even bigger news. Democrats need Catholic votes to hold the White House and Congress. In the past, arrogant progressives have been unwilling to meet the church half way and the result was electoral disaster. (In 2004, John Kerry was the first Roman Catholic presidential candidate who failed to get a majority of the Catholic vote.) The compromise on abortion, however unwelcome to some progressive Democrats, is a recognition of political realities that indicates a new realism on the part of the House leadership. It's too early to predict the final fate of health care reform in this Congress. Polls continue to show declining support for reform nationwide, and the election results will not soon be forgotten. But as of today, the Democratic leadership seems to be working from a winning playbook. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:36 PM (5r0Tz) 254 I've been to this Rep. Sutton's Ohio district. It's the place where the 300-pounders all line up for the gubmint cheese . . . cause they po' and hungry and cain't afford enuf fud. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 03:37 PM (9Wv2j) 255 @224 "on behalf of Brokeback Mtn ranchers" The great unwashed down in Tx refer to them as "stump broke Democrats" Posted by: MDr at November 07, 2009 03:38 PM (ucq49) 256 Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:36 PM (5r0Tz) No offense to any RCs here, but the Catholic Church sold its soul with Vatican II. No fucking way they should be playing in politics the way they are, and it's commie politics, at that. They wouldn't have done that before. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 03:39 PM (UBQGM) 257 Chet Edwards goes No - that's 27 Dem No's..... Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:40 PM (5r0Tz) 258 LOL BABY Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 03:40 PM (Ei3oZ) 259 AHFF, the Catholic Bishops don't realize that they are being wholly ignored by weekly church going Catholics because they refuse to clamp down on the Catholics in government who routinely violate the tenets of their faith and yet trot out Catholicism when it is covenant like NP. Most Catholics have stopped giving to the church as they are very disgruntled by the pedophile stuff and the illegal alien stuff and the fact that most of the dictates about the US seem to emanate directly from Rome. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 03:40 PM (p302b) 260 254 I've been to this Rep. Sutton's Ohio district. It's the place where the 300-pounders all line up for the gubmint cheese . . . cause they po' and hungry and cain't afford enuf fud. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 03:37 PM (9Wv2j) Lorain Co especially is in the shitter. I'm in Franklin, myself. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 03:41 PM (Ei3oZ) 261 Yay, Maddie! Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 03:41 PM (9Wv2j) 262 256 as a prior Catholic school attendee for a few years, i'd agree. the Church has clearly lost their way as they push Obamacare over the finish line for the hard left......sad, sad day in American history. Isn't it strange how the left hates any influence of religion on government policy unless it helps the left? Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:42 PM (5r0Tz) 263 259 agreed Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:44 PM (5r0Tz) 264 256 Funny that only The Church (and COGIC) are immune from our laws and courts. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 03:44 PM (UaSIe) 265 Jim Cooper always plays the "undecided" card to make himself look reflective and deliberative. He's an Obama lapdog. But I bet he gets re-elected. Posted by: Conservative1st at November 07, 2009 03:44 PM (iTe8G) 266 Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:42 PM (5r0Tz) It's not just that. They let the Liberation Theology shit fester in S America, and basically winked and nodded. Free fucking governments were lost that way. Bishops should have been coming in with their shit-kickers on, and they didn't. That really soured me. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 03:44 PM (UBQGM) 267 big sigh...vote count on stupak up to 225 Rep. Stupak says he has about 220 225 votes on his abortion amendment, reports my colleague Jake Sherman. Updated to correct the vote count. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:45 PM (5r0Tz) 268 This talk about buying land in other countries or turning tail to run to New Zealand when things are looking bad, makes me sick. Some famous dead guy said this before (when he wasn't quite dead yet)... and it looks like it needs to be said again: THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated. Posted by: Guy in a zombie-proof bunker at November 07, 2009 03:45 PM (4PyP0) 269 RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION!!! Woot111 Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 03:45 PM (UaSIe) 270 If the blue dogs go along with this, will it be seen as that it is now important to get this mechanism in place than political survival? Or do they know that in certain, vulnerable districts that there is a plan in place to overcome voter sentiment? Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 03:45 PM (cvmTR) 271 Lorain Co especially is in the shitter. I'm in Franklin, myself. I just moved from Westerville to Johnstown a month ago. Thankfully, I'm still in the 12th District. What do you think of Issue 3 passing? Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 07, 2009 03:46 PM (R6fjc) 272 Funny that only The Church (and COGIC) are immune from our laws and courts. Well, we'd disagree. Posted by: The Roman Catholic Diocese of Wilmington DE, Tits Up Division at November 07, 2009 03:46 PM (UBQGM) 273 Who is shouting about yielding to CA? Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 03:46 PM (Ei3oZ) 274 some GOP dude is raising hell over veterans issues. awesome Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:46 PM (5r0Tz) 275 This talk about buying land in other countries or turning tail to run to New Zealand when things are looking bad, makes me sick. Well, if we did all go together and buy an island, and name it Moronia, or something, what form of government would we have? Is gangbang a form of government? Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 03:47 PM (UBQGM) 276 Too bad Muslims don't find abortion disturbing enough to declare Jihad over because if CAIR did, the Democrats would overturn Roe V. Wade in a heartbeat so as not to inflame the jihadis. Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 03:48 PM (cvmTR) 277 I just moved from Westerville to Johnstown a month ago. Thankfully, I'm still in the 12th District. What do you think of Issue 3 passing? Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 07, 2009 03:46 PM (R6fjc) I live in the Linworth area, right on the border of Tiberi's and Kilroy's districts - technically in Kilroy's. I voted against the Casinos. Moral issues aside, because gambling addicts would be the least of our problems, the language of the bill was all 'could might possibly maybe' type shit. And that they took away all competition, made it into a freakin constitutional amendment? That's a bunch of bullshit. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 03:49 PM (Ei3oZ) 278 The Catholic church's actions are just as befuddling as the drug company execs donating to Dems. I just don't get it. Posted by: Tweet's Magic 8-ball at November 07, 2009 03:49 PM (ouySy) 279 We're getting a govt haircut alright. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 03:50 PM (UaSIe) 280 drew, that was hoyer yesterrday...like 3 news cycles ago Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:50 PM (5r0Tz) 281 Well, if we did all go together and buy an island, and name it Moronia, or something, what form of government would we have? Is gangbang a form of government? Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 03:47 PM (UBQGM) Our Congress would be run kinda like that beer commercial with all the firefighters who vote yes or no on simple basics. Short, to the point meetings followed by beer parties. Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 03:50 PM (cvmTR) 282 Also WTF is with the Catholic church supporting this POS. The Catholic bishops have always been functionally retarded when it comes to economics and have no problem with the government spending trillions of tax dollars just as long as none of it is for abortions or promoting homosexual rights/marriage/etc. Posted by: OregonMuse at November 07, 2009 03:50 PM (eR37w) 283 Everyone noticed the update, right? Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 03:50 PM (YX6i/) 284 Vote To Belayed? depends by who Posted by: d at November 07, 2009 03:51 PM (uTknY) 285 I guess the only taxes in Moronia would be to periodic "tip jar" moronothon's that Ace needs. Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 03:51 PM (cvmTR) 286 On belay(ed)! Posted by: Trish at November 07, 2009 03:51 PM (0U5Kd) 287 Uh, never mind??? Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 03:51 PM (YX6i/) 288 The Catholic church's actions are just as befuddling as the drug company execs donating to Dems. I just don't get it. Allow me to explain: caving to Threats and Blackmail Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 03:51 PM (UaSIe) 289 just came in from little meet & greet of candidate to run against my total jerk Congressman, Dem. Perriello. (5th CD, Va). I didn't see Perriello's name on the "Hill" list as yes, no or undecided. sht, Perriello is a yale lawyer. he probably thought of some other way around this other than yes, no or undecided. Present! Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 07, 2009 03:52 PM (TEIZr) 290 re: casinos What's the incompetent-spendaholic government's answer to everything? Casinos! Posted by: Tweet's Magic 8-ball at November 07, 2009 03:52 PM (ouySy) 291 ACE cain't 'ford no spellcheckers Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 03:53 PM (UaSIe) 292 Re: Ohio Issue 3--voted agin it. Last year when they had the single location casino vote, that single location was about 4 miles from me. We had more Cuyahoga county plates running around planting signs than you can shake a stick at. Went down over 90% in the two adjacent counties. Figured if it's not good enough for my back yard it's not good enough for yours. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 03:53 PM (UBQGM) 293 John barrow, from m y state of Georgia, is a no. thjat's 28 - need 40 no's to win (and get to 218 no's). My guess on final yes vote is 220 sadly, NY 23 could be a swing vote, fucking eh. Thanks, Michael Steele and the RNC. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:53 PM (5r0Tz) 294 @270 Blue Dogs are nothing more than left-wing Dems posing as "moderate" or conservative during election season. They think ev1 will calm down about these votes by next November, that the passion on our side will wane and Obama will have coattails, Sad thing is, other than the coattails, they are probably right. Posted by: Conservative1st at November 07, 2009 03:53 PM (iTe8G) 295 AHFF, Thanks, updated and I tweated Malkin about it. Posted by: DrewM. at November 07, 2009 03:53 PM (FCWQb) 296 Wow, some woman is being sued for fifty grand for a twitter post? She apparently named an apartment complex and said they had mold in the building and now she is being suded. Funny fox didn't name the complex but showed the picture of the front entry with the name. Wonder if they will sue fox now. Also Fox said Courtney Love is being sued by some female fashion designer cause love said on twitter, allegedly said, that the fashion designer was a drug dealer and a bad mother. Well since the truth in this stuff is always the best defense we'll see how it pans out. Fox is right on it though. Hope this doesn't discourage anyone from posting on the internet and giving their opinions that would be a shame. Also, so many people say stuff like this on Craig's list, how come they don't get sued. it isn't that the twitter dude might have not wanted to play along when he had the visit where he was summoned to the WH, could it be? Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 03:53 PM (p302b) 297 I was sitting at a stoplight the other day when I looked over to my right and saw a family of four in a Prius all staring at me. The kids had their mouths hanging open and eyes wide open like they couldn't believe what they were seeing, and mom and dad (who was a dead ringer for Ned Flanders from The Simpsons) were just glaring at me. I was wondering what the fuck their problem was...and then I remembered my "Obama is Acting Stupidly" bumper sticker I know that exact look. I get it sometimes when I open carry. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 03:54 PM (+FzLa) 298 Belay that nosepicking misspelling, cadet. Posted by: Guy in a zombie-proof bunker at November 07, 2009 03:54 PM (4PyP0) 299 sadly, NY 23 could be a swing vote, fucking eh. Thanks, Michael Steele and the RNC. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:53 PM (5r0Tz) Your Welcome Posted by: Newt Gingrich at November 07, 2009 03:55 PM (+FzLa) 300 sadly, NY 23 could be a swing vote, fucking eh. Thanks, Michael Steele and the RNC. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:53 PM (5r0Tz) I think this has been known for some time. This is why Nancy's been saying "We won." They thought they were going to get Scozzafava as their vote, but did some serious last minute negotiations and threw their weight. The fix has been in for some time. Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 03:56 PM (YX6i/) 301 Looking at the blogs, those who are declared against the bill and those who voted against the rule it looks like 33 Dems are against. Looking at the undecided's realistically only Blue Dogs are going to ultimately vote NO. That leaves Arcuri, Mike (NY-24), Berry, Marion (AR-01), Cardoza, Dennis (CA-1, Carney, Christopher (PA-10), Chandler, Ben (KY-06), Costa, Jim (CA-20), Cuellar, Henry (TX-2, Donnelly, Joe (IN-02), Ellsworth, Brad (IN-0, Hill, Baron (IN-09) - although he sounds like a YES if the Stupak Amend. goes through, Michaud, Mike (ME-02), Space, Zack (OH-1. It is on the shoulders of these twelve that the balance hangs. If anyone feels like making some calls, those twelve are the ones to go after. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:56 PM (5r0Tz) 302 I know that exact look. I get it sometimes when I open carry. Blackpowder dueling pistol? Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 03:56 PM (UBQGM) 303 And that they took away all competition, made it into a freakin constitutional amendment? That's a bunch of bullshit.* That's the general sentiment around here. I understand that state legislators are exploring ways to defeat it in court. We'll see. BTW, sorry you have to deal with Kilroy. Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 07, 2009 03:56 PM (R6fjc) 304 lol @ Drew's update he's teasing us like he's a local news show Guess who's coming to town? You'll find out right after this... [cut to commercial]. Does the mayor want to tax your dog? Find out later. Big storm brewing? Andy will be right back with your forecast. Posted by: Tweet's Magic 8-ball at November 07, 2009 03:57 PM (ouySy) 305 How many of those tired 33 will cave at 3am tomorrow? Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 03:57 PM (UaSIe) 306 sadly, NY 23 could be a swing vote, fucking eh. Thanks, Michael Steele and the RNC. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:53 PM (5r0Tz) I think this has been known for some time. This is why Nancy's been saying "We won." They thought they were going to get Scozzafava as their vote, but did some serious last minute negotiations and threw their weight. The fix has been in for some time. Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 03:56 PM (YX6i/) This makes me think that the GOP really is functionally retarded. How the fuck can they be this damn stupid? I wasn't up ont he NY23 story until right before the election.....i just cant believe the GOP screwed this up so bad as to hand that evil orc Pelosi an extra dem. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:58 PM (5r0Tz) 307 My friend said she sent a very effective email to everyone. It said "don't think I will forget this vote and your name. When you go to run again or for something else I will remember and will help all my buds remember. Maybe, if you want to remain in politics, you can get elected dog catcher in your own home town."....I thought that was a funny email. She says she wrote it in anger and mass mailed it to all the cowards. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 03:58 PM (p302b) 308 i just cant believe the GOP screwed this up so bad as to hand that evil orc Pelosi an extra dem. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 03:58 PM (5r0Tz) Believe, Brother. Believe. Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 03:59 PM (YX6i/) 309 Sounds like they're trying to convince the "blue dog" Dems that they can have their cake and eat it too. Passing an unpopular health care bill after huge electoral defeats in VA and NJ, a shooting on a military base followed by a sociopathic response from the president and the unemployment rate at 10.2% -- one that raises taxes in 2010 but no benefits until 2013 -- and with economic disaster on the horizon. Now that's acting stupidly. Posted by: AmishDude at November 07, 2009 03:59 PM (ItSLQ) 310 292 Re: Ohio Issue 3--voted agin it. Last year when they had the single location casino vote, that single location was about 4 miles from me. We had more Cuyahoga county plates running around planting signs than you can shake a stick at. Went down over 90% in the two adjacent counties. Figured if it's not good enough for my back yard it's not good enough for yours. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 03:53 PM (UBQGM) I think that all people heard were "34,000 jobs" and everything else was as good as greek. I was surprised by the map in the Dispatch that showed Franklin Co voting against it - it was just the Cinci and Cleveland areas that got it past the 50% mark, apparently. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 03:59 PM (Ei3oZ) 311 AHFF, my friend is saying that Mike Bloomberg only ran on the Republican line in NY and that is why he got re elected. He said many voted for him because they actually thought he was a republican. Does that sound right to you? Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 04:00 PM (p302b) 312 This makes me think that the GOP really is functionally retarded. It may help you to consider and grudgingly admit that today's GOP is the Democratic Party of just ~ two decades ago. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 04:00 PM (UaSIe) 313 Blackpowder dueling pistol? Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 03:56 PM (UBQGM) Broadsword Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 04:00 PM (+FzLa) 314 It may help you to consider and grudgingly admit that today's GOP is the Democratic Party of just ~ two decades ago. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 04:00 PM (UaSIe) JFK would be considered a far-right neo-con by todays standards. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 04:02 PM (+FzLa) 315 it was just the Cinci and Cleveland areas that got it past the 50% mark, apparently. Don't forget that skidmark we call Toledo. Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 07, 2009 04:02 PM (R6fjc) 316 Yeah, I'm thinking 218 to 220 pass. But the senate can delay this thing a good 4 months which could kill it. Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 07, 2009 04:02 PM (DIYmd) 317 Fox jsut showed the ice queen in her power barf red suit. Ugh. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 04:03 PM (p302b) 318 Don't forget that skidmark we call Toledo. Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 07, 2009 04:02 PM (R6fjc) You mean southern Michigan? Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 04:03 PM (Ei3oZ) 319 I believe that the recent elections have Liberals thinking the only possibility of saving their precious 52% is to pass this all-encompassing Socialist agenda. Last ditch effort; Hail Mary. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 04:04 PM (UaSIe) 320 Broadsword Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 04:00 PM (+FzLa) Real man carrys a crossbow. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 04:05 PM (UBQGM) 321 *Broadsword* Wot's in yer wallet??! Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 04:05 PM (UaSIe) 322 or "carries", for you native English speakers. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 04:06 PM (UBQGM) 323 Waxman , the sexy bastard he is, just had the gall to say that 37 millions don't have freedom in this country bc they don't have the option of having health care. ???????? Even as he was saying it you could tell that he wishes he had picked different words. Posted by: lacey's pay check at November 07, 2009 04:06 PM (WUQRx) 324 Remember when Owens votes yes, its just as good as Newt doing it himself. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 04:06 PM (+FzLa) 325 "NY 23 could be a swing vote, fucking eh." It will look like that, but they get to 218 with another Dem. NY 23 gave another Dem a chance to vote no. The reason there is a vote is because Nancy was sick of Blue Dogs playing pussy foot hoping it would never come to a vote. She is basically forcing them to take sides. Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 07, 2009 04:07 PM (HAdov) 326 I'd like to know "what's in their portfolio?" Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 04:07 PM (p302b) 327 LOL @ tweet 304 10 reasons why migranes are good for you after the break Later on, new reasons to START smoking When we get back, doctors take a whole new look at hemroids, with some surprising new findings. Posted by: Max Power at November 07, 2009 04:07 PM (q177U) 328 Waxman. Target of cocaine dealers the world over. Can you imagine the amount that he could hoover up in one go? It would be epic. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 04:08 PM (Ei3oZ) 329 If only this site would reliably refresh... Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 04:09 PM (UaSIe) 330 311 AHFF, my friend is saying that Mike Bloomberg only ran on the Republican line in NY and that is why he got re elected. He said many voted for him because they actually thought he was a republican. Does that sound right to you? Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 04:00 PM (p302b) Well, it is true that Bloomberg ran with an R next to his name in the mayor race. Despite his many "suck up to Obama" visits and joint press conferences. I doubt, however, that most voted for him because he was GOP - perhaps some angry low info voters.... Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 04:09 PM (5r0Tz) 331 why they fuck are these people reciting the Constitutoin. the wet dog wasserman-schultz just said it was time to recognize not just liberty and freedom but justice--justrice for all. so now justice = gov't mandated health insurance these people are certifiable. Posted by: lacey's pay check at November 07, 2009 04:10 PM (WUQRx) 332 Waxman. Target of cocaine dealers the world over. Can you imagine the amount that he could hoover up in one go? It would be epic. He could just go with the leaves. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 04:10 PM (UBQGM) 333 Waxman. Target of cocaine dealers the world over. Can you imagine the amount that he could hoover up in one go? It would be epic. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 04:08 PM (Ei3oZ) FUCK heeem!! Posted by: Tony Montana at November 07, 2009 04:10 PM (YX6i/) 334 Rep David Scott "Mo' we'fare -- MORE -- FASTER!!!" Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 04:11 PM (UaSIe) 335 You mean southern Michigan? Exactly. That place has all the charm and personality of Chernobyl's neighboring city of Prypiat. Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 07, 2009 04:11 PM (R6fjc) 336 Is Georgia, like, the national breeding center for stupid? Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 04:11 PM (9Wv2j) 337 so now justice = gov't mandated health insurance We beg to differ. Posted by: Judge. Rope. Gravity. at November 07, 2009 04:11 PM (UBQGM) 338 Waxman looks like the business end of Rottweiler. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 04:12 PM (+FzLa) 339 Waxman reminds me of one of those Nimh rats from 'The Secret of Nimh'. Fugly. Posted by: Trish at November 07, 2009 04:12 PM (0U5Kd) 340 I'll just say it right now. Whatever strategy the Reps have for whatever they think they're doing with this bill, it not only won't work, but it will backfire spectacularly. Mark my words. Where Dems are concerned, I vote "No." For the Pubbie, "No confidence." Posted by: Popcorn at November 07, 2009 04:12 PM (OOehk) 341 Waxman looks like the business end of Rottweiler. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 04:12 PM (+FzLa) Assholist! Posted by: Asshole of a Rottweiler at November 07, 2009 04:13 PM (UBQGM) 342 336 hey now! If America was like Georgia, we wouldnt have the Pelosicare abomination passing today. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 04:13 PM (5r0Tz) 343 why they fuck are these people reciting the Constitutoin. the wet dog wasserman-schultz just said it was time to recognize not just liberty and freedom but justice--justrice for all. so now justice = gov't mandated health insurance these people are certifiable. Wait until they institute our definition of "justice" if full. You ain't seen nothing yet. Posted by: Academics at November 07, 2009 04:13 PM (rzJpR) 344 I'm sick of having people from San Franfuckingsisco, New York, Seattle, Bangor, Detroit, L.A. and other socialist utopias dictating my life. I'm officially changing my name from Conservative1st to TxSecessionist and casting my vote next year for Rick Perry for President of the Republic of Texas. Posted by: Conservative1st at November 07, 2009 04:13 PM (iTe8G) 345 That Waxman sure is one ugly fucker ain't he ? Posted by: Gollam at November 07, 2009 04:13 PM (+FzLa) 346 why is that tax cheating bastard Rangel out there debating? Shouldnt he be in jail for tax evasion? Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 04:14 PM (5r0Tz) 347 Waxman. Target of cocaine dealers the world over. Can you imagine the amount that he could hoover up in one go? It would be epic. He alone could have made me my fortune! Posted by: Zombie Pablo Escobar at November 07, 2009 04:14 PM (R6fjc) 348 can you imagine if waxman and wasserman-schultz procreated? that would pretty much be the end of civilization as we know it, right? Posted by: lacey's drinking early today at November 07, 2009 04:14 PM (WUQRx) 349 Dude, check out the jowls on Nadler...gotdamn... Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 04:14 PM (Ei3oZ) 350 After the break find out a whole new reason to think about the way Americans get divorced When we return some shocking discoveries about what might be REALLY lurking under your bed Christmas might mean coal in your stocking for more reasons than you think. Stay tuned for some facts about the upcomming holiday season that just might send Santa to the slammer. Posted by: Max Power at November 07, 2009 04:14 PM (q177U) 351 Sorry, A-HFF. That statement was based solely on the parade of esteemed representatives on display this afternoon. Not you!! ';-) Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 04:15 PM (9Wv2j) 352 hey now! If America was like Georgia, we wouldnt have the Pelosicare abomination passing today. Uh huh. And the Atlanta mayoral votes won't fall along racial lines in The City Too Busy to Hate. / Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 04:15 PM (UaSIe) 353 gotdamn... Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 04:14 PM (Ei3oZ) gator- where are you? Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 04:16 PM (YX6i/) 354 The last-minute compromises that got the blue dogs on board will be dissected and that will erode support. The Senate won't want any part of some of the House crap. The question is whther they can pass a nicer "version" that will lead to reconciliation with the House version. I think a lot of the blue dogs think that ultimately they can vote against it and the worst possible outcome for them is that it passes, whether they vote for it or not. I would also caution that they want this passed close to the election, before any unpleasantness takes effect. Posted by: AmishDude at November 07, 2009 04:17 PM (ItSLQ) 355 Dude, check out the jowls on Nadler He's first chair in Bwawny's Bugle Corps Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 04:17 PM (UaSIe) 356 Always look at names, like for instance "Kiljoy" or any italian name with "mal" in front of it, cause when they gave names out, it usually meant something that related to things the person has done. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 04:17 PM (p302b) 357 wow, that sheila jackson lee is completely insane. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 04:18 PM (5r0Tz) 358 353, Ohio. Spent many a summer in Leesburg FL, though, with the grandparents during my formative years. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 04:18 PM (Ei3oZ) 359 Oh, here we go -- someone who actually outweighs the bill itself. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 04:18 PM (9Wv2j) 360 Always look at names, like for instance "Kiljoy" or any italian name with "mal" in front of it, cause when they gave names out, it usually meant something that related to things the person has done. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 04:17 PM (p302b) Not always. Really. Posted by: Angus McSheepfucker at November 07, 2009 04:19 PM (UBQGM) 361 Waxman would be wise to pray that he personally never sees Justice done. Posted by: rawmuse at November 07, 2009 04:19 PM (GHATK) 362 Here's a damn good prospect for '12 Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 04:19 PM (9Wv2j) 363 1,990 pages of deceptions and perfidy = "Concise" to Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 04:19 PM (UaSIe) 364 352 dude, obama's approval is in the low 30's in georgia. as is apporval of obamacare. if only the US voted like Georgia. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 04:19 PM (5r0Tz) 365 Waxman would be wise to pray that he personally never sees Justice done. If I were just, you'd all be on fire. Posted by: God at November 07, 2009 04:20 PM (UBQGM) 366 Not always. Really. Posted by: Angus McSheepfucker at November 07, 2009 04:19 PM (UBQGM) Tell me about it. hiccup Posted by: Paddy O'Furniture at November 07, 2009 04:20 PM (+FzLa) 367 So should I start investing in prison builders because there are going to be a lot of people going to jail for not "buying" health insurance. Come to think of it, if you were in prison, you might get the swine flu vaccination sooner. Going to prison for NOT paying health insurance might get you better health coverage however, you still have to worry about other things that start with Bubba. Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 04:21 PM (cvmTR) 368 I wish the Dems would quit talking about the "donut-hole". Doesn't page 1,857 prohibit the consumptoin of donuts as that runs counter to the healthy lifestylel maintenance mandate on page 684. Thise prickteases. Posted by: lacey's drinking early today at November 07, 2009 04:21 PM (WUQRx) 369 We are gathered here today to celebrate the courageous liberal men of the United States House of Representatives. Please join me in singing this hymn of appreciation. Hymn.......hymn.........fuck him! Posted by: Fish at November 07, 2009 04:22 PM (6mfq0) 370 That's LACKEY Clay, boy Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 04:22 PM (UaSIe) 371 368, I want a constitutional amendment that dictates Krispy Kremes are a God-given right. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 04:23 PM (Ei3oZ) 372 Am I your brothers' keeper? Yep, for nine abbreviated generations, so far. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 04:23 PM (UaSIe) 373 268 This talk about buying land in other countries or turning tail to run to New Zealand when things are looking bad, makes me sick. Posted by: Guy in a zombie-proof bunker at November 07, 2009 03:45 PM (4PyP0) Oh, the ironing. Posted by: Lone Marauder at November 07, 2009 04:24 PM (p1iaB) 374 Wouldn't it be in the best interests of the Blue Dogs to pass this now and then let the passage of time allow people to forget? They can win reelection and possibly another one in 2012 before this health care bill finally kicks in full right? The freshmen Congresscritters just need to win two more elections before they get their nice retirement package with their gold plated health care plan. Anything messy from this will be for new congresscritters to deal with. Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 04:24 PM (cvmTR) 375 Please join me in singing this hymn of appreciation. MMM MMM MM... Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 04:24 PM (UaSIe) 376 I want a constitutional amendment that dictates Krispy Kremes are a God-given right. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 04:23 PM (Ei3oZ) Kwispy Kweme. mmmm,mmmm Posted by: Bwany Fwank at November 07, 2009 04:25 PM (+FzLa) 377 233 years, huh? Not bad. What's next on the to-do list. Posted by: Ben Franklin at November 07, 2009 04:25 PM (YX6i/) 378 Rangel: I yield myself as much taxes as I may consume. Say what??! Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 04:26 PM (UaSIe) 379 What is the impact of this health care bill on fast food organizations? Will they have to kill their menus now in order to only offer Congress approved health food? What will Obama supporters say when KFC and Church's alter their menu's to only offer "healthy" chicken? Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 04:26 PM (cvmTR) 380 OK, Ohio morons. We live in a marginally red state, with pockets of retards. How do we get the General Assembly to pull a Texas and say, "We checked our stash, and it's all full of No-Fucking Way"? Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 04:27 PM (UBQGM) 381 KFC and Church's alter their menu's to only offer "healthy" chicken? Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 04:26 PM (cvmTR) Sounds like a zucchini on a stick with a pinch of salt. Posted by: Fish at November 07, 2009 04:28 PM (6mfq0) 382 so now justice = gov't mandated health insurance Yes. In their mnds, they're being compassionate -- no matter how many people they have to kill to achieve it. Posted by: AmishDude at November 07, 2009 04:29 PM (ItSLQ) 383 We warned the Republicans in 2006 they were gonna lose, but they kept on being ignorant, kept on spending, kept being pussies with illegal immigration and voter ID. Posted by: Tweet's Magic 8-ball at November 07, 2009 04:29 PM (ouySy) 384 This would have gone better if every single speaker against the damn thing just stood up and said "If this is such a terrific plan, why are we in the House and Senate specifically exempt from participation?" One after another. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 04:29 PM (9Wv2j) 385 UNUPDATED Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 04:29 PM (UaSIe) 386 since no one can determine what Perriello's vote will be (5th CD Va), I offer my apologies ahead of time. he is Nancy's lapdog & if he can figure out anyway to vote for this, he will. Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 07, 2009 04:30 PM (TEIZr) 387 Sounds like a zucchini on a stick with a pinch of salt. Keep going...... Posted by: Barney "Chindribbles" Frank (C-MA) at November 07, 2009 04:30 PM (UBQGM) 388 Is it ethical to call up members of congress that aren't from your district? Or even state? Posted by: Smapty at November 07, 2009 04:30 PM (bAySe) 389 Next up, card check and amnesty. Lady Liberty signing off. Its been real guys, last one out, turn off the light. Posted by: Columbia at November 07, 2009 04:31 PM (+FzLa) 390 Is it ethical to call up members of congress that aren't from your district? Or even state? Posted by: Smapty at November 07, 2009 04:30 PM (bAySe) "Ethical" is not exactly on the radar, at the moment. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 04:31 PM (UBQGM) 391 tweet's magic 8 ball: yep. oh God: Rangel wants to be on Levin's side with a moral issue. sing with me "stairway to heaven" Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 07, 2009 04:32 PM (TEIZr) 392 Yes, absolutely. Many, including Pelosi, encourage it. All have no problem with accepting contributions across state lines. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 04:32 PM (UaSIe) 393 Rep. Levin: Nurse... is it time for my pudding cup? Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 04:33 PM (UaSIe) 394 Is it ethical to call up members of congress that aren't from your district? Or even state? Many Congressional dweebs argue that if you're not from their district, they won't speak with you or accept your criticism. If that's the case, then the US Treasury should stop issuing them paychecks and they can be paid by their respective states. Otherwise, call the assholes and bitch them out at will. Over. Posted by: Fish at November 07, 2009 04:34 PM (6mfq0) 395 I've been out plotting & meeting someone who is running against Perriello. Has tiny Tommy Perriello spoken? my husband said that "hate" is a strong emotion & will eat one up. ok, I loathe these Dems. not hate. too strong. Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 07, 2009 04:34 PM (TEIZr) 396 Rep. Levin: Nurse... is it time for my pudding cup? It's over there in that nice, cozy cave, Congressman. Nom nom nom. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 04:35 PM (9Wv2j) 397 Per, Malkin, Stupak says they'll have the votes needed to pass this piece of shit, 225. Bastards !! Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 04:35 PM (+FzLa) 398 Blazer, which part? The abortion amendment or the whole shit sammich? Posted by: Ben Franklin at November 07, 2009 04:36 PM (YX6i/) 399 OK, Ohio morons. We live in a marginally red state, with pockets of retards. How do we get the General Assembly to pull a Texas and say, "We checked our stash, and it's all full of No-Fucking Way"? Them's big pockets you got there. Posted by: Naan- Ohioian by birth, Texan for employment at November 07, 2009 04:36 PM (YR3gL) 400 "hate" is a strong emotion & will eat one up." So true and I've never used the word, but do have strong thoughts about the prick who called me by my second name, plaintiff. Posted by: Fish at November 07, 2009 04:36 PM (6mfq0) 401 It's over there in that nice, cozy cave, Congressman. Nom nom nom. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 04:35 PM (9Wv2j) I still don't have the taste of goatshagger out of my mouth. Don't do this shit to me. Posted by: The Bear at November 07, 2009 04:37 PM (UBQGM) 402 Do you know that HGTV has a majority of their programs produced in Canada by funds provided by the government of Canada? What is so interesting is that they always decorate for Canadians who came to Canada from other countries. Those are the people who seem to thrive and have the real money to afford expensive houses and expensive decorators. You find yourself asking where the native born wealthy canadians are? There is one guy who built a whole program out of converting basements into living space to be rented out so people can carry their homes. Should have realized this stuff being shown here was sort of an introduction to our nice relationship with Canada expanding. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 04:37 PM (p302b) 403 Why did Major Hassan have to go jihadi on us and not, say, Keith Ellison? Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 07, 2009 04:37 PM (Qt4Y7) 404 Going to prison for NOT paying health insurance might get you better health coverage however, you still have to worry about other things that start with Bubba. Minimum security places like Eglin ain't bad. I could brush up on my tennis and bocci and get really buff while doing 5 years there as a political prisoner rubbing elbows with wall street mavens and corrupt congressmen. I wonder how Amnesty International will handle the US incarcerating what are obvious political prisoners now? Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 07, 2009 04:37 PM (2xNqr) 405 my husband said that "hate" is a strong emotion & will eat one up. ok, I loathe these Dems. not hate. too strong. (Santa places Kelley on his knee) Kelley, you are a wise woman. Wives should always heed the wise counsel of their husbands. Posted by: Santa at November 07, 2009 04:37 PM (UaSIe) 406 380 OK, Ohio morons. We live in a marginally red state, with pockets of retards. How do we get the General Assembly to pull a Texas and say, "We checked our stash, and it's all full of No-Fucking Way"? Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 04:27 PM (UBQGM) Got me. Let's offer up Toledo to Michigan and Cleveland to Lake Erie Ontario. Be a lot more red after that. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 04:38 PM (Ei3oZ) 407 remember: the economy was pretty darn good in 2006 and the Republicans got crushed, which really speaks to how awful they were). In 2010, the economy is terrible and the Democrats are really over-reaching, going against the will of the people. Congress is the Republicans if they want it. Do they want it? That is the question. Posted by: Tweet's Magic 8-ball at November 07, 2009 04:38 PM (ouySy) 408 I'm too dpressed to even spam you guys with lefty sock puppets. This really sucks... Posted by: Max Power at November 07, 2009 04:39 PM (q177U) 409 VOTE YES, or Ga-aw-awww-d will git you!!! Be not a Fred!!!! Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 04:39 PM (UaSIe) 410 Many Congressional dweebs argue that if you're not from their district, they won't speak with you or accept your criticism. Posted by: Fish at November 07, 2009 04:34 PM (6mfq0) That's why I keep this handy dandy list of zip codes within arm's reach. I ain't above lying in some instances. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 04:40 PM (Ei3oZ) 411 Got me. Let's offer up Toledo to Michigan and Cleveland to Lake Erie Ontario. Michigan and Canada are stupid. They're not that stupid. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 04:40 PM (UBQGM) 412 my husband said that "hate" is a strong emotion & will eat one up. ok, I loathe these Dems. not hate. too strong. Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 07, 2009 04:34 PM (TEIZr) All that hate is gonna burn you up kid. Posted by: Col. Andrew Tanner USAF at November 07, 2009 04:40 PM (+FzLa) 413 by the way, any predictions on which (R)'s, if any, will vote for this? Conventional wisdom and the history of the dumb sackless weasels tells me there will be a few. Posted by: Tweet's Magic 8-ball at November 07, 2009 04:40 PM (ouySy) 414 Be not a Fred!!!! Be not a Fred!!!! Be not a Fred!!!! Devuh, git back!!! Be not a Fred!!!! Posted by: Preachuhman at November 07, 2009 04:41 PM (UaSIe) 415 That's why I keep this handy dandy list of zip codes within arm's reach. I ain't above lying in some instances. I just use the legislator's own local address when I want to bitch outside my district -- it's right there on the website, just copy & paste. I doubt many of them are bright enough to figure it out. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 04:41 PM (9Wv2j) 416 Jeez. I've always been something of a pessimist but what I'm reading here today is absurd. The Democrats are confident so it's Game Over, man! So what if they are confident. They are always confident. They are also unbelievably stupid, which they prove again and again. Calm down. The worst that can happen is you can die and go to hell, the same danger you've faced your whole life. Your wailing is way out of proportion. Posted by: Salem at November 07, 2009 04:41 PM (86rbG) 417 but maybe I won't listen to "wise counsel" of my husband (do you know him, SAnta? he is a judge in real life). I think i might hate Charlie Rangel. tiny tommy Perriello, where are you? Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 07, 2009 04:42 PM (TEIZr) 418 Conventional wisdom and the history of the dumb sackless weasels tells me there will be a few. Posted by: Tweet's Magic 8-ball at November 07, 2009 04:40 PM (ouySy) Not. A. One. Probably. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 04:42 PM (UBQGM) 419 all you have to do is follow the money Which (R)'s would be the most easily swayed (i.e., bought) with pork? Posted by: Tweet's Magic 8-ball at November 07, 2009 04:42 PM (ouySy) 420 Posted by: Tweet's Magic 8-ball at November 07, 2009 04:40 PM (ouySy) something weird will occur and they will all vote for it. something like that, just have a feeling. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 04:43 PM (p302b) 421 Lets be realistic..Did anyone really think Pelosi would have brought it up for a vote if she didn't know she had enough to pass this thing? Look the moderate? Democrats are using this abortion amendment to hide behind. It was a done deal. That doesn't mean it can't be stopped in the Senate. We also know something will be passed there because Obama has to have something. He's too big to fail....... Posted by: Donna at November 07, 2009 04:43 PM (6heFO) 422 Did anyone really think Pelosi would have brought it up for a vote if she didn't know she had enough to pass this thing? Don't know. Ascribing intelligence to SanFranNan is a pretty iffy proposition. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 04:44 PM (UBQGM) 423 nail him Boehner. good man Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 07, 2009 04:44 PM (TEIZr) 424 Wazzzzzzzuuuuuup. Posted by: President Shout Out at November 07, 2009 04:44 PM (4iIhs) 425 406 No, no, no. You can keep Cleveland. We've got enough cities that can't win championships, thank you. But... if you could find a way to concede attractive cities like Annapolis, Traverse City and Austin to us, we'd appreciate it. Posted by: Infidel of the Day at November 07, 2009 04:44 PM (mhkzS) 426 Stupak is not enough. Unless it contains a "conscience clause" for health care providers. Does it? Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 04:44 PM (9Wv2j) 427 Drew - an update to your update: Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) said that even if his amendment to ban the federal funding of abortions fails, 20 of the 40 people who stood with him in pushing the measure forward will still vote for final passage. He said 15 of those pro-life Democrats won't vote for the legislation regardless of what happens with his amendment. Stupak himself said if his amendment fails and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi needs a vote, he could envision himself voting for the legislation. �I would have to weigh all aspects of the health care but I would be inclined if the bill looks good to me to vote for health care,� Stupak said. �And I�ve caught hell for that.� The Michigander called the process by which Pelosi agreed to allow his amendment a �fractured fairy tale.� STUPAK=SELLOUT BIATCH Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 04:44 PM (5r0Tz) 428 "410 Many Congressional dweebs argue that if you're not from their district, they won't speak with you or accept your criticism. Posted by: Fish at November 07, 2009 04:34 PM (6mfq0) That's why I keep this handy dandy list of zip codes within arm's reach. I ain't above lying in some instances. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 04:40 PM (Ei3oZ)" Maybe the tea party people should invest in a PO Box in each state and then people can use that as their return address? Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 04:45 PM (p302b) 429 Kelley, yes, I know your husband. I will never forget telling him that I couldn't do another 50 years. He told me to do the best that I can. Posted by: Santa 01738720 at November 07, 2009 04:46 PM (UaSIe) 430 But... if you could find a way to concede attractive cities like Annapolis, Traverse City and Austin to us, we'd appreciate it. One in Maryland, one in Michigan, and the liberal shithole of Texas? We can work with that. Three bales of BC gold and they're yours. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 04:46 PM (UBQGM) 431 I just saw on IMDB that Jeffrey Dean Morgan who played The Comedian in Watchmen will play Col. Andy Tanner in The Red Dawn remake. Sweet. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 04:47 PM (+FzLa) 432 It will be interesting to see the Wall Street reaction on Monday. Posted by: YIKES! at November 07, 2009 04:47 PM (fUNEl) 433 Let me tell you all about ethics violations. I know all about ethics violations. (DAMN, walked right into that) Posted by: Rangel at November 07, 2009 04:47 PM (UaSIe) 434 O HAI THAR TIBERI Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 04:48 PM (Ei3oZ) 435 since this is the "do as I say, not as I do, opposite administration" you almost feel like what youa re witnessing is almost surrealistic. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 04:48 PM (p302b) 436 430 Sweet, guess I wouldn't have had to know a Congressman to get into Annapolis. Bit late but it's all good. Austin's a liberal shithole but have you been to the People's Republic of Toronto? Posted by: Infidel of the Day at November 07, 2009 04:48 PM (mhkzS) 437 since this is the "do as I say, not as I do, opposite administration" you almost feel like what youa re witnessing is almost surrealistic. Bugs are normal. Posted by: Franz Kafka at November 07, 2009 04:49 PM (UBQGM) 438 431 I just saw on IMDB that Jeffrey Dean Morgan who played The Comedian in Watchmen will play Col. Andy Tanner in The Red Dawn remake. Sweet. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 04:47 PM (+FzLa) Eh, no high hopes for that movie. Commies will be replaced by extremists wearing DC912 t-shirts. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 04:49 PM (Ei3oZ) 439 Austin's a liberal shithole but have you been to the People's Republic of Toronto? Just pony up the weed. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 04:50 PM (UBQGM) 440 Unbelievable: Rangel snottily says that guaranteeing Stupak amndt might be violation of ethics laws. !!!! michellemalkin Will they listen/care? RT @philipaklein: Boehner trying to convince prolife Ds that anti-abortn language won't survive... Posted by: deidre at November 07, 2009 04:51 PM (4Pleu) 441 It will be interesting to see the Wall Street reaction on Monday. It will put billion$ more projects on HOLD, and 17% of our economy on DEFCON II. Ready yourself for funemployment. Posted by: Rangel at November 07, 2009 04:52 PM (UaSIe) 442 Boehner trying to convince prolife Ds that anti-abortn language won't survive... THEN WHY THE EVER LOVING FUCK DID YOU VOTE FOR IT YOU PUSILLANIMOUS DUMBASS? Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 04:53 PM (UBQGM) 443 Fuming Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 04:53 PM (UaSIe) 444 Eh, no high hopes for that movie. Commies will be replaced by extremists wearing DC912 t-shirts. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 04:49 PM (Ei3oZ) Its supposed to take place in and around Detroit. Looks like Hollywood was trying to save some money here. Detroit already looks like a war zone. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 04:53 PM (+FzLa) 445 It will be interesting to see the Wall Street reaction on Monday. It will put billion$ more projects on HOLD, and 17% of our economy on DEFCON II. Ready yourself for funemployment. Posted by: Rangel at November 07, 2009 04:52 PM (UaSIe) This passes, I'm out of a job. I'm fucked. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 04:54 PM (UBQGM) 446 380 OK, Ohio morons. We live in a marginally red state, with pockets of retards. How do we get the General Assembly to pull a Texas and say, "We checked our stash, and it's all full of No-Fucking Way"? Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 Check this out. Ohio and many other states have recently passed sovereignty resolutions. You can bet your ass that Strickland won't sign it. Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 04:54 PM (AnTyA) 447 Herr, you mind if I ask you what you do for a living ? Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 04:55 PM (+FzLa) 448 The GOP has to vote no on this. It's a sham. Kill the bill and kill it now. Rep. Stupak, the Blue Dog leading the charge against government-funded abortion, has stated flatly the bill will pass with or without his amendment (via Michelle Malkin's liveblog). Many moderate Dems. will be satisfied just to vote on the amendment, so they can return to their districts saying they were opposed to abortion in the bill, and their heinies will be covered even if the bill passes with abortion intact. So if the GOP cynically votes no on the Stupak Amendment, all that will happen is Democrats will blame them for its non-passage, and Pelosicare may well pass with government-funded abortion in the bill as a result. Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 07, 2009 04:55 PM (cxGtL) 449 The GOP has to vote no on this. It's a sham. Kill the bill and kill it now--DrewM. Rep. Stupak, the Blue Dog leading the charge against government-funded abortion, has stated flatly the bill will pass with or without his amendment (via Michelle Malkin's liveblog). Many moderate Dems. will be satisfied just to vote on the amendment, so they can return to their districts saying they were opposed to abortion in the bill, and their heinies will be covered even if the bill passes with abortion intact. So if the GOP cynically votes no on the Stupak Amendment, all that will happen is Democrats will blame them for its non-passage, and Pelosicare may well pass with government-funded abortion in the bill as a result. Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 07, 2009 04:56 PM (cxGtL) 450 You can bet your ass that Strickland won't sign it. No but Kasich would. Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 07, 2009 04:56 PM (R6fjc) 451 STOP the BS -- VOTE already. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 04:56 PM (UaSIe) 452 Herr, you mind if I ask you what you do for a living ? Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 04:55 PM (+FzLa) I beat the shit out of health insurers on behalf of hospitals. Glorified bill collector. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 04:57 PM (UBQGM) 453 They are either being threatened or promised something. What is it? Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 04:57 PM (p302b) 454 Santa, damn, he does tell 'em that exact thing. yeah, i know its an old joke, but what else is he supposed to say? Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 07, 2009 04:57 PM (TEIZr) 455 Here are some pics from the set of the Red Dawn remake. http://1vlo.sl.pt Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 04:57 PM (cvmTR) 456 This passes, I'm out of a job. I'm fucked. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 04:54 PM (UBQGM) If this passes, we're all out of a job. And dead. Posted by: TexasJew at November 07, 2009 04:59 PM (SjlJR) 457 So if the GOP cynically votes no on the Stupak Amendment, all that will happen is Democrats will blame them for its non-passage, and Pelosicare may well pass with government-funded abortion in the bill as a result. I know. But that's cynical politics, and God knows we've had enough of that. Somewhat must stand athwart the tide of history and say "Get the fuck off my lawn, retard!" Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 04:59 PM (UBQGM) 458 I beat the shit out of health insurers on behalf of hospitals. Glorified bill collector. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 04:57 PM (UBQGM) Damn Herr, my condolences. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 04:59 PM (+FzLa) 459 Own it. I am so friggin tired. do any of you feel you've been fighting this fight for months? it HAS been months. Own it. and go home Nov 2010. Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 07, 2009 04:59 PM (TEIZr) 460 Don't forget to cancel any AARP associations to you or your family. Their are fair and balanced alternatives. _________ If you're a physician, heal thyself - cancel your AMA membership. _________ Make the bastards pay! Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:01 PM (UaSIe) 461 They are either being threatened or promised something. What is it? Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 04:57 PM (p302b) Both. Promising "protection", threatening "no protection". Posted by: The Brotherhood at November 07, 2009 05:01 PM (YX6i/) 462 Damn Herr, my condolences. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 04:59 PM (+FzLa) It's actually a fun job, and it pays the bills. But you can see why that lump in my throat is pure shit. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 05:02 PM (UBQGM) 463 Ohio is like a lot a cities. Cleveland belongs to NY. Thats were everyone came from anyway. Most states wish that their one big liberal city would go away or be part of another State. Look ay PA. Throw Philly put, it's solid red. FL is solid red if you remove the NY people from around Miami. Ga would be a wonderful place without Atlanta. etc, etc. Posted by: mystry at November 07, 2009 05:02 PM (kmgIE) 464 Just watched these non Canadian born but now wealthy canadians have some idiot come in and decorate their rooftop patio with expensive stuff when the people next door wisely used their brain and thought "gee we live in a cold climate so let's put up a glass extension and heat it so we can use this newly created room all eyar round. Ah but guess the Canadian government paid for their patio so they don't care. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 05:02 PM (p302b) 465 O.k. I'm gonna start drinking now and get totally plastered. Who's with me ? Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 05:03 PM (+FzLa) 466 Who's with me ? Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 05:03 PM (+FzLa) Present. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 05:04 PM (UBQGM) 467 OK, what else besides getting people to quit AARP can we do? Drop Costco if you have it? Don't buy Apple products? Don't use Google? Don't give business to SEIU serviced establishments (probably damn near impossible)? Don't watch NBC Sunday Night Football? Don't use GE products? Don't go on vacation in blue states? Seriously, besides calling douche bag congresscritters and attending tea party protests, what can we do between now and Nov 2010? Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 05:05 PM (cvmTR) 468 459 Own it. I am so friggin tired. do any of you feel you've been fighting this fight for months? it HAS been months. Own it. and go home Nov 2010. Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 07, 2009 04:59 PM (TEIZr) We had to fight the RINOs and dumbass GWB over the Shamnesty and then we had to fight McPain and the RINOs over 2008 and then we had to fight dumbass GWB over TARP and then we had to fight Hussein over his communist bullshit and then we had to fight the upstate NY-23 battle and now we have to battle Pelosi over their leftist takeover of healthcare and Cap n' Tax. Jesus, we have to fight our own crappy party and their crappier opponents. Posted by: TexasJew at November 07, 2009 05:05 PM (SjlJR) 469 It's only 2:05 here on the left coast. Are we qualified? Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 05:05 PM (YX6i/) 470 O.k. I'm gonna start drinking now and get totally plastered. Who's with me ? Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 05:03 PM (+FzLa) I'm in Posted by: Doc at November 07, 2009 05:05 PM (rzJpR) 471 Who's with me ? Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 05:03 PM (+FzLa) Started without you! Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 05:06 PM (9Wv2j) 472 Is the rumor true that el presbo is going on a date in San Francisco tonight for sushi or is that just a rumor? Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 05:06 PM (p302b) 473 It's only 2:05 here on the left coast. Are we qualified? Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 05:05 PM (YX6i/) Its five o'clock somewhere. Like here for instance. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 05:06 PM (+FzLa) 474 Herr, you mind if I ask you what you do for a living ? Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 04:55 PM (+FzLa) He advises hospitals on how they can gang up with insurance companies to screw Americans out of their right to health care. Posted by: Tinian at November 07, 2009 05:07 PM (7+pP9) 475 it is pretty fitting that the fraudulent son of Jesse Jackson, the one who literally tried to buy a Senate seat from Blago and who is presently under investigation by the Illinois federal prosecutor (Jesse, Jr) is presiding over the Obamacare debate. how fitting. dems = pure, unadulterated fraud. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 05:07 PM (5r0Tz) 476 465 O.k. I'm gonna start drinking now and get totally plastered. Who's with me ? Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 05:03 PM (+FzLa) I picked a bad time to quit drinking but I'll have a Coke! Ace got me to quit smoking with that e-cig stuff and it has worked like a champ. 3.5 months and counting. $500 less to the taxman and big tobacco!! E-cig is pretty good. I'm using a tiramisu flavored nicotine juice and it's pretty good! Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 05:08 PM (cvmTR) 477 #465 Blazer, I'm way ahead of you. I started when Football came on. For me, that was 1:00, Or somewhere around there! Posted by: mystry at November 07, 2009 05:08 PM (kmgIE) 478 Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 05:05 PM (cvmTR) Costco? Whachoo talkin' about, Willis? Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 05:08 PM (9Wv2j) 479 I forget--when did they plan this vote for today & why did they change their minds that they have the votes? What is SanFranNan giving them to commit political suicide? Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 07, 2009 05:08 PM (zmiSr) 480 472 Is the rumor true that el presbo is going on a date in San Francisco tonight for sushi or is that just a rumor? Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 05:06 PM (p302b) He's announcing that he's going down on Michelle?? Ewwww. Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 05:09 PM (cvmTR) 481 Alright, I just poured out a little on the ground for my dead homie, Lady Liberty. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 05:09 PM (+FzLa) 482 467 OK, what else besides getting people to quit AARP can we do? Drop Costco if you have it? Don't buy Apple products? Don't use Google? Don't give business to SEIU serviced establishments (probably damn near impossible)? Don't watch NBC Sunday Night Football? Don't use GE products? Don't go on vacation in blue states? Seriously, besides calling douche bag congresscritters and attending tea party protests, what can we do between now and Nov 2010? Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 05:05 PM (cvmTR) get involved with, give real time to, and try to take over all local GOP offices around you. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 05:09 PM (5r0Tz) 483 478 Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 05:05 PM (cvmTR) Costco? Whachoo talkin' about, Willis? Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 05:08 PM (9Wv2j) Look at their political donations on opensecrets.org. It's like 98% on something. I'll doublecheck right now but that's what I recall. Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 05:10 PM (cvmTR) 484 69 Editor it's 5:00 somewhere. It's past that here EST... Posted by: mystry at November 07, 2009 05:10 PM (kmgIE) 485 He advises hospitals on how they can gang up with insurance companies to screw Americans out of their right to health care. HARSH. Did you forget a sarc tag, and to name your own profession? Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:11 PM (UaSIe) 486 472 Is the rumor true that el presbo is going on a date in San Francisco tonight for sushi or is that just a rumor? It's pathetic if it's true. GWB & Laura were at Ft. Hood today. No media allowed. Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 07, 2009 05:11 PM (zmiSr) 487 this is why I"m an independent becasue to me, the republicans and the democrats look exactly the same and sometimes, the Republicans are worse. At least the Democrats come right out and tell you to your face that they are going to screw you over. The Republicans do it scrumptiously and then they are such cowards, they won't stand up for any principles. The are the same. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 05:12 PM (p302b) 488 Costco? And Progressive Insurance, Starbucks, MSM... We need to educate ourselves and shop accordingly. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:13 PM (UaSIe) 489 '80's baby, thanks for being a good sport last night. Man was I an asshole. By the way, loved the new pic. Your cute as a button Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 05:13 PM (+FzLa) 490 Look at their political donations on opensecrets.org. It's like 98% on something. I'll doublecheck right now but that's what I recall. Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 05:10 PM (cvmTR) Really? I'll check it out. I don't but a lot at Costco, but a few things. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 05:14 PM (9Wv2j) 491 Somewhere Karl Rove is brooding in his bat cave. Planning his next move againts the Joker Nancy Pelosi. Lets put a smile on your face! Posted by: Max Power at November 07, 2009 05:14 PM (q177U) 492 get involved with, give real time to, and try to take over all local GOP offices around you. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 05:09 PM (5r0Tz) Already doing that my brother! I just want more to do. Have to be careful though due to my current job. Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 05:14 PM (cvmTR) 493 490 Look at their political donations on opensecrets.org. It's like 98% on something. I'll doublecheck right now but that's what I recall. Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 05:10 PM (cvmTR) Really? I'll check it out. I don't but a lot at Costco, but a few things. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 05:14 PM (9Wv2j) From what I looked at so far, they are 100% for the Democrats in 2010. Previous elections have been about the same. Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 05:15 PM (cvmTR) 494 Shop at Whole Foods. Overstock. (The Overstock guy has been yelling about corruption for years and they have tried to put him out of business, well, he is a mormon and they lump him with Romney) (they are so racist) Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 05:15 PM (p302b) 495 489 Could have been worse. Apology accepted. Thanks for the compliment, Blazer. Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 07, 2009 05:16 PM (zmiSr) 496 i quit drinking, smoking & gave up anti-depressant. I am going wild. get involved with every race going on. run yourself. buy guns. Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 07, 2009 05:16 PM (TEIZr) 497 492, right on, keep it up. News off the wire - i guess its still too soon to "jump to conclusions" Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas, attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt. His mother's funeral was held there in May that year. The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organisations. Hasan's eyes "lit up" when he mentioned his deep respect for al-Awlaki's teachings, according to a fellow Muslim officer at the Fort Hood base in Texas, the scene of Thursday's horrific shooting spree. As investigators look at Hasan's motives and mindset, his attendance at the mosque could be an important piece of the jigsaw. Al-Awlaki moved to Dar al-Hijrah as imam in January, 2001, from the west coast, and three months later the September 11 hijackers Nawaf al-Hamzi and Hani Hanjour began attending his services. A third hijacker attended his services in California. Hasan was praying at Dar al-Hijrah at about the same time, and the FBI will now want to investigate whether he met the two terrorists. Charles Allen, a former under-secretary for intelligence at the Department of Homeland Security, has described al-Awlaki, who now lives in Yemen, as an "al-Qaeda supporter, and former spiritual leader to three of the September 11 hijackers... who targets US Muslims with radical online lectures encouraging terrorist attacks from his new home in Yemen". Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 05:17 PM (5r0Tz) 498 best speech of the day: http://tinyurl.com/yaeodpt Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 05:17 PM (dwwPD) 499 Whole Foods? I'll take that advice with a grain of salt. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:17 PM (UaSIe) 500 All these lame-ass sob stories are getting on my nerves. Mainly because they don't go "I'm here repesenting Homer T. Crapweasel who has a tragic condition and can't get insurance and so he wants THE REST OF US to pay for his care." Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 05:17 PM (9Wv2j) 501 499, Whole Foods is worth your support, their CEO is the man, look up his WSJ article on health care. Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 05:19 PM (dwwPD) 502 "499 Whole Foods? I'll take that advice with a grain of salt. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:17 PM (UaSIe)" It's true, the CEo wrote some letter and ow the left/libs are trying to ruin him and his business. Funny casue they need their organics and were shocked that he wasn't the same mindset. I will try and find the piece later so you can read it. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 05:20 PM (p302b) 503 More Hasan details - fellow Muslim officer who prayed with hasan THAT MORNING says Hasan = Jihadist!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Still too soon to "jump to conclusions"?????? Kamran Pasha, the author of Mother of the Believers, a new novel relating the story of Islam from the perspective of Aisha, Prophet Mohammed's wife, was told of the al-Awlaki connection from a Muslim friend who is also an officer at Fort Hood. Using the name Richard, the recent convert to Islam described how he frequently prayed with Hasan at the town mosque after Hasan was deployed to Fort Hood in July. They last worshipped together at predawn prayers on the day of the massacre when Hasan "appeared relaxed and not in any way troubled or nervous". But Richard had previously argued with Hasan when he said that he felt the "war on terror" was really a war against Islam, expressed anti-Jewish sentiments and defended suicide bombings. "I asked Richard whether he believed that Hasan was motivated by religious radicalism in his murderous actions," Mr Pasha said. "Richard, with great sadness, said that he believed this was true. He also believed that psychological factors from Hasan's job as an army psychiatrist added to his pathos. The news that he would be deployed overseas, to a war that he rejected, may have pushed him over the edge. "But Richard does not excuse Hasan. As a Muslim, he finds Hasan's religious perspectives to be fundamentally misguided. And as a soldier, he finds Hasan's actions cowardly and evil." Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 05:21 PM (5r0Tz) 504 494 Shop at Whole Foods. Overstock. (The Overstock guy has been yelling about corruption for years and they have tried to put him out of business, well, he is a mormon and they lump him with Romney) (they are so racist) Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 05:15 PM (p302b) Overstock guy was on one of Beck's mini-townhall shows. I liked him, and have tried to use them - plan on doing some xmas shopping there. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 05:21 PM (Ei3oZ) 505 Here ya go, Rewrite. Whole Foods CEO John Mackey's WSJ opinion piece on hellcare. Which spurred a libtard revolt against his stores. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 05:22 PM (9Wv2j) 506 Embrace teh Suck- then stock up on ammo. Posted by: Hvy Mtl Hntr at November 07, 2009 05:22 PM (v/iFt) 507 Whole Foods is worth your support I know the story well, but I also know that he was/is a good Liberal on all other issues. Just b/c BHO threw him under the bus, doesn't mean that I have to adopt him. My 2c. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:24 PM (UaSIe) 508 If you're a physician, heal thyself - cancel your AMA membership. Only about 20% of practicing doctors are AMA members, and the majority of those are the freshly minted ones out of med school who think membership means something. After a few years working in the field they realize it means nothing, or is actually counter productive, and quit paying the dues. In the legal profession, BAR membership stats are similar. Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 07, 2009 05:25 PM (2xNqr) 509 Who's with me ? Way ahead fo you. LSU 7 - The Capstone 3 Posted by: toby928 at November 07, 2009 05:26 PM (PD1tk) 510 Once they government pays for your health care, they WILL tell you what you can and cannot put into your body. Except if you are gay then you can put gerbils in your rectum while smoking pot a Barney Frank's gay brothel. Posted by: gus at November 07, 2009 05:26 PM (Vqruj) 511 If this passes, we're all out of a job. And dead. You Queef lost his battle against death? Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 05:26 PM (AnTyA) 512 Health care now , crap and trade next . ... Keep going lefties , how about gun control ? Make it a trifecta . Posted by: awkward davies at November 07, 2009 05:27 PM (wb68R) 513 ...sorry...meant You mean Queef lost Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 05:27 PM (AnTyA) 514 As far as I know Mackey has always said he's a strong free market libertarian. Just because he knows how to make (loads of) money off liberals doesn't mean he is one. Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 05:28 PM (dwwPD) 515 507 Whole Foods is worth your support I know the story well, but I also know that he was/is a good Liberal on all other issues. Just b/c BHO threw him under the bus, doesn't mean that I have to adopt him. My 2c. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:24 PM (UaSIe) I'm with rewrite on this one. Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 05:28 PM (cvmTR) 516 p.s The Mrs. and I did shop there twice, during the anti-boycott. p.p.s. Mackey has a long history of Liberalism and even stock corruption on the Net. Check Google News archives Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:29 PM (UaSIe) 517 515 507 Whole Foods is worth your support I know the story well, but I also know that he was/is a good Liberal on all other issues. Just b/c BHO threw him under the bus, doesn't mean that I have to adopt him. My 2c. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:24 PM (UaSIe) I'm with rewrite on this one. Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 05:28 PM (cvmTR) Third. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 05:29 PM (Ei3oZ) 518 "Not long" my ass... 4 years. 4 freakin' years. Posted by: Lone Marauder at November 07, 2009 05:30 PM (p1iaB) 519 You will HAVE to shop at places like Whole Foods. Junk food will be banned. How does that chocolatey ass taste? Posted by: Big Chocolate Bung Hole at November 07, 2009 05:32 PM (q177U) 520 fucking eh....apolcalypse now............... At this moment, Democratic sources say their internal head counts have them breaking through the 218 mark this afternoon. Whether that will mean that more Democrats will come on board, or that Pelosi is going to cut other members lose, is still unclear. But Dems are confident they have won. By John Bresnahan Posted by Chris Frates 05:11 PM Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 05:32 PM (5r0Tz) 521 The Pelosi Plan for... PREACH ON, Brother! Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:33 PM (UaSIe) 522 ... fouth, regarding Whole Foods. I liked his WSJ article but the place is overpriced and full of sanctimonious lefties. Posted by: Huckleberry at November 07, 2009 05:33 PM (F71c5) 523 Samoa, a US Welfarite votes Yes. (But not actually votes.) Imagine my surprise! Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:35 PM (UaSIe) 524 the other interesting question of the day - does any Republican dare cross over and vote for this? Posted by: Mallamutt at November 07, 2009 05:36 PM (V9SYy) 525 I ride with Whole Foods! You're all banned Posted by: Charles at November 07, 2009 05:36 PM (UaSIe) 526 I liked his WSJ article but the place is overpriced and full of sanctimonious lefties. Posted by: Huckleberry at November 07, 2009 05:33 PM (F71c5) And hipsters. Don't forget the hipsters. The only time I shopped there was when someone gave me a gift card. Although it's worth mentioning that Where's the Rum says they have an excellent bacon-chocolate bar. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 05:38 PM (9Wv2j) 527 He advises hospitals on how they can gang up with insurance companies to screw Americans out of their right to health care. HARSH. Did you forget a sarc tag, and to name your own profession? Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:11 PM (UaSIe) It's a joke, son. A couple of months ago one of our resident trolls was claiming that if you got a medical bill you couldn't immediately pay you would be in financial hardship or the rest of your life. I told the troll that I had a bill I couldn't pay, it went into collection and when I was able I finally paid it off. Herr called me a deadbeat. I don't know if he was busting my ass and I don't care. I made my point to the troll and Herr made his point to me. Nothing personal on my part. Just busting ass. Posted by: Tinian at November 07, 2009 05:40 PM (7+pP9) 528 526 / Peaches: Not sure if I know the difference between lefties and hipsters, aren't hipsters a subset? Posted by: Huckleberry at November 07, 2009 05:41 PM (F71c5) 529 Anyone with Bacon-Chocolate Bars can't be all bad, but did they take out the yummy nitrites? Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:42 PM (UaSIe) 530 Hipsters. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 05:43 PM (9Wv2j) 531 Tinian sarc tags save lives / Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:44 PM (UaSIe) 532 Some hipsters are apolitical, but they do wear such delightfully ironic T-shirts! Nothing goes better with an I'm with stupid shirt like a pair of horned rimmed glasses and a carefully maintained stubble. Posted by: Max Power at November 07, 2009 05:45 PM (q177U) 533 "When asked if I would participate in this public option, I said yes HELL, NO!" Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 05:45 PM (9Wv2j) 534 522 ... fouth, regarding Whole Foods. I liked his WSJ article but the place is overpriced and full of sanctimonious lefties. Posted by: Huckleberry at November 07, 2009 05:33 PM (F71c5) Yeah, I caught a whiff of their patchouli-scented disdain when they knew that I was there for the buycott. On the other hand, I also got to buy two uniformed soldiers their groceries while I was there, and made sure to let them know why I was there to begin with. Turns out they were there for the same reason. LOL they probably wondered, at first, why I was stalking them throughout the store, but I was just waiting for them to hit the checkout. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 05:45 PM (Ei3oZ) 535 Hasn't the public spoken in regard to the public option and the answer has been NO!!! Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 05:46 PM (cvmTR) 536 Well, it appears the GOP is eff'ng this up too. Unbelievable. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 05:47 PM (EL+OC) 537 Once this bill passes, hello nuclear option in the Senate. Posted by: True_King at November 07, 2009 05:47 PM (D6FdK) 538 Yeah, I caught a whiff of their patchouli-scented disdain when they knew that I was there for the buycott I wore my NRA shirt for just that reason. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:47 PM (UaSIe) 539 Actually, if you are looking for that hard to get item (e.g., an exotic cheese) Whole Foods is about as good a place to go as any. It is sort of my store of last resort on some items. But, personally, I woud rather shop the local stores and keep the cash local. Plus, the upside is a lot of the smaller shop owners really know their stuff and can help you make the right, most cost effcient choice. On the other hand, when the last time you got some killer advice from the deli clerk at Wal-Mart. And that is not a knock on Wal-Mart, it just that they have different business models. Posted by: Mallamutt at November 07, 2009 05:48 PM (V9SYy) 540 I just don't get the whole Pabst Blue Ribbon thing with hipsters. I mean what is it ? "Look , I'm so ironic I drink shitty beer pretending its actually good" Why not just save some money and have someone piss in a glass for you instead. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 05:48 PM (+FzLa) 541 I wore my NRA shirt for just that reason. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:47 PM (UaSIe) I chose to sport my Reagan Revolution shirt. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 05:48 PM (Ei3oZ) 542 I wore my NRA shirt for just that reason. I wore my plaid hunting shirt, jack boots, and Redman hat. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 05:49 PM (EL+OC) 543 Dear ol' Pabst Blue Ribbon is bad..? BLASPHEMER! Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:50 PM (UaSIe) 544 Michael Jackson is rolling in his grave. He hated the idea of rationed care. Posted by: Max Power at November 07, 2009 05:51 PM (q177U) 545 I'm not down with the bacon chocolate unless I make it myself. The store-bought always has chewy bacon bits, and I demand a crispy bacon. Some melted choc chips and just-this-side of burnt bacon strips is far superior. Just sayin. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 05:51 PM (Ei3oZ) 546 Herr, you mind if I ask you what you do for a living ? Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 04:55 PM (+FzLa) I beat the shit out of health insurers on behalf of hospitals. Glorified bill collector. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 04:57 PM (UBQGM) Do you work for a hospital? If so how's the census holding out? Posted by: YIKES! at November 07, 2009 05:51 PM (fUNEl) 547 Breaking: Dems say they have 218 http://bit.ly/42Raqy9 minutes ago from web And friends wonder why I have spent an entire beautiful Saturday watching C-span. Somebody has to watch this country circle the drain. Posted by: sybilll at November 07, 2009 05:52 PM (x6rHq) 548 I wore my plaid hunting shirt, jack boots, and Redman hat. Ix-nay, Herr Morgenholz has been looking for his jack boots. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:52 PM (UaSIe) 549 I'm not down with the bacon chocolate unless I make it myself. The store-bought always has chewy bacon bits, and I demand a crispy bacon. Some melted choc chips and just-this-side of burnt bacon strips is far superior. Just sayin. Do you take PayPal? Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:53 PM (UaSIe) 550 If you have a medical bill and it causes financial hardship, why am I supposed to pay it for you? Posted by: gus at November 07, 2009 05:53 PM (Vqruj) 551 Breaking: Dems say they have 218 Unless they can name all 218, I have to believe this is bluster to get the last five or six to sign on. Posted by: Methos at November 07, 2009 05:54 PM (IoxPW) 552 Vote #218 - Bill Owens (D, NY-23) Posted by: Ghost of Doug Hoffman at November 07, 2009 05:55 PM (YX6i/) 553 Well looks like we're gonna have to take a bite of the shit sandwich and have something hoisted upon us the majority of us don't want. This thing is gonna pass. Here's a song to celebrate this momentous occasion dearest comrades. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 05:56 PM (+FzLa) 554 Heh - left sockpuppet on, but it worked out. Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 05:56 PM (YX6i/) 555 I still say they went into today knowing they had the votes. Read that some of the dhimmi members this morning had Nancy autograph a copy of the bill. Shes a celebrity. Posted by: Donna at November 07, 2009 05:57 PM (6heFO) 556 551 Good point. Last minute bluff. Only a few more minutes of debate left. Posted by: sybilll at November 07, 2009 05:57 PM (x6rHq) 557 O/T I've discovered the solution to the site refresh problem: Re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-refresh /? Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:57 PM (UaSIe) 558 "Breaking: Dems say they have 218" Just wait until the public finds out there is 15K or 1 year penalty for not purchasing heath/deathcare. Plus death panels are in there. I really think the undemocrats think people will not actually read what has been voted on. And guess what? PEOPLE WILL...and how can these fools defend voting for a bill that will arrest people for not having heathcare. I say... go for it.. vote for this shitty illegal bill.. and let the backlash BEGIN! Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 05:57 PM (ACkhT) 559 550, 'cause you're my comrade, brother. duh. Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 05:58 PM (dwwPD) 560 The public won't be hit with this monstrosity until 2013. They don't know what is going to hit them. Posted by: Donna at November 07, 2009 05:59 PM (6heFO) 561 George Miller, who is speaking now, is a raging liberal douchebag. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 05:59 PM (EL+OC) 562 Rep. Geo Miller: we're going to become the architects and builders of ... the USSA Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:00 PM (UaSIe) 563 Do you take PayPal? Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 05:53 PM (UaSIe) LOL. It isn't difficult - try it. I prefer bittersweet choc, but you can use milk. And thick-sliced bacon is best. http://bit.ly/PuMT Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 06:01 PM (Ei3oZ) 564 Oh remember, remember the seventh of November. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 06:01 PM (+FzLa) 565 John, the public ain't paying attention. That is always the problem, if they were O would not be pres. Posted by: Naan at November 07, 2009 06:01 PM (YR3gL) 566 what out of control aggressive sonofabitches. they're like drug addicts after this thing. Posted by: nyc redneck at November 07, 2009 06:02 PM (CDa0z) 567 John, the public ain't paying attention. That is always the problem, if they were O would not be pres. Posted by: Naan at November 07, 2009 06:01 PM (YR3gL) Am convinced 52% of the population are shaken baby syndrome survivors, walking around voting and shit. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 06:03 PM (Ei3oZ) 568 "The public won't be hit with this monstrosity until 2013" well, the taxes are going up next year for this monstrosity (if it ever gets that far), so paying for crap that they aren't going to see for 4 years. Like making house payments on house you've never seen or agreed to buy. Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 06:03 PM (ACkhT) 569 LOL. It isn't difficult - try it. I prefer bittersweet choc, but you can use milk. And thick-sliced bacon is best. http://bit.ly/PuMT Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 06:01 PM (Ei3oZ) Enjoy it while you can Bacon will probably be outlawed under Commie Care. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 06:03 PM (+FzLa) 570 545 I'm not down with the bacon chocolate unless I make it myself. The store-bought always has chewy bacon bits, and I demand a crispy bacon. Some melted choc chips and just-this-side of burnt bacon strips is far superior. Just sayin. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 05:51 PM (Ei3oZ) Can I be your friend? Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 06:03 PM (9Wv2j) 571 563 Thanks, Note to the Mrs.! Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:04 PM (UaSIe) 572 rep. kildee sounds like Droopy. I can't stand it. Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 06:04 PM (dwwPD) 573 Public may not be paying attention to any of this, BUT they will pay attention when their taxes double for something they aren't even seeing or agreed to. Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 06:04 PM (ACkhT) 574 Granted some of it does kick in, but unless it is really obvious to the sheeple they probably won't notice. Hopefully we won't find out. The last chance is the Senate. Don't know how they will react. Posted by: Donna at November 07, 2009 06:05 PM (6heFO) 575 Enjoy it while you can Bacon will probably be outlawed under Commie Care. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 06:03 PM (+FzLa) I will build a super sekrit underground bacon bunker. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 06:05 PM (Ei3oZ) 576 also, god bless her, but virginia foxx sounds like a porn star name. Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 06:06 PM (dwwPD) 577 Public may not be paying attention to any of this, BUT they will pay attention when their taxes double for something they aren't even seeing or agreed to. Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 06:04 PM (ACkhT) They'll also start paying attention when going to the doctors office is like getting on a bus in some third world country, chickens and all. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 06:06 PM (+FzLa) 578 Athony Weiner is on Fox right now. He is a small guy Little Weiner Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 06:06 PM (AnTyA) 579 Politico says Speaker Rosa Klebb has her 218. Posted by: cbullitt at November 07, 2009 06:06 PM (18AiE) 580 Can I be your friend? Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 06:03 PM (9Wv2j) Making some for Thanksgiving! Come on over. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 06:06 PM (Ei3oZ) 581 Comrade. Comrade. Comrade. Comrade. Comrade. Comrade. Comrade. Comrade. Comrade. Comrade. Comrade. Comrade. Posted by: Spies Like Them at November 07, 2009 06:07 PM (YX6i/) 582 I can't believe this, the republicans all bring up numbers, stats, information. The democrats keep on making lame emotional appeals. Why do they even bother with the debate? Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 06:08 PM (dwwPD) 583 Politico confirms 31 Dems against. I like these quotes, from Dems, condemning Obamacare. With just hours remaining until an historic vote on a sweeping health-care reform measure Saturday evening, at least 31 Democrats have said they will vote against the bill as of 6:00 p.m., according to a POLITICO analysis. Just nine more �no� votes would be enough to sink the bill if Republicans maintain, as expected, a solid front of opposition. Still, Democratic sources are signaling that they have secured the majority of the caucus and expect to pass the bill tonight. While the reasons these Democrats have offered for opposing the $1.2 trillion bill vary, they nearly all share a common trait�they are among the most politically vulnerable incumbents in the House, and they tend to represent conservative-minded seats that John McCain won in 2008. Of the 31 no votes, 25 are members who represent seats carried by McCain�10 of those members hail from districts where McCain won 60 percent or more of the vote. Three of the remaining six are freshmen Democrats sitting in seats that were Republican-held until 2008. At least three committee chairmen�Rep. Bart Gordon (D-Tenn.), Rep. Collin Peterson (D-Minn.) and Rep. Ike Skelton (D-Mo.)�have also said they said they do not support the bill. �While the House bill does take some positive steps toward increasing coverage and reforming insurance regulations, it simply falls short when it comes to lowering healthcare costs for North Florida families and businesses,� said Rep. Allen Boyd (D-Fla.) in a statement Saturday explaining why he would vote �no.� "Given the huge federal deficits facing our nation, I believe there is too much new spending in this bill," said Rep. Chet Edwards (D-Texas) in a statement explaining his opposition to the bill. "Throughout this debate I have heard two extremes. Some on the far left would like to see the federal government run a socialized health care system. Some on the far right would get the government completely out of health care, which would mean the elimination of Medicare and Medicaid. I think both extremes are wrong." Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 06:08 PM (5r0Tz) 584 They'll also start paying attention when going to the doctors office is like getting on a bus in some third world country, chickens and all. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 06:06 PM (+FzLa) And Obama will be out of office, contemplating the design of his Presidential Library. Yeah, they knew what they were doing. All the shit will come down on whoever sits in the Oval Office from 2013 onward. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 06:09 PM (Ei3oZ) 585 Granted some of it does kick in, but unless it is really obvious to the sheeple they probably won't notice. Hopefully we won't find out. The last chance is the Senate. Don't know how they will react. Posted by: Donna at November 07, 2009 06:05 PM (6heFO) 49% percent of the people in this country pay little to no taxes. These are the same folks we are gonna be forced to pay for under socialized medicine. The Democrats know this, thats why they don't care. Not only do these people not pay attention they make up the bloc of Democrats voter base. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 06:09 PM (+FzLa) 586 tdpwells, thanks for that link, I bookmarked it. They also have a bacon maple custard pie, omg, sounds like heaven! Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 06:11 PM (9Wv2j) 587 Little Weiner is trying to downplay the fact that there is a criminal penalty for not signing up for care in the bill saying he would serve the jail time for anyone sentenced. I almost hope it passes just for this to be able to happen Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 06:11 PM (AnTyA) 588 Rep. Sestak: Socialism and redistribution of wealth = Rugged Individualism PUKE Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:14 PM (UaSIe) 589 Blazer, good point... and those doctors will not wait until 2013 to leave the profession, it will be very very quick depatures....heck my own family doctor, who is thinking about retiring told me, if this passes he is retiring and selling his practice and I think ok at least I have 3 other docs from this practice to go to, well it looks like 2 of those 3 are reitring as well if this shitty plan goes thru. The remaining doctor might just go teach at a university, he's younger than the other 4. Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 06:14 PM (ACkhT) 590 Long live Cloward-Pivens!!! /grrr Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:14 PM (UaSIe) 591 All of these emotional pleas about specific medical dramas. They are those people 's frikking Representatives. Why did't they step in and intervene if insurance companies were in fact doing unethical things? Posted by: sybilll at November 07, 2009 06:14 PM (x6rHq) 592 "Credibility Problem", eh? Shitstain. Posted by: Lone Marauder at November 07, 2009 06:15 PM (p1iaB) 593 I lost the visual on C-Span. This guy sounds just like Homer Simpson! Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 06:16 PM (9Wv2j) 594 It's a joke, son. Some people just don't get the nuanced humor. Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 06:16 PM (AnTyA) 595 Our old school cardiologist has already started an ammo reloading company. Fact. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:16 PM (UaSIe) 596 You're welcome, Peaches! Bacon is made of win. I remain, however, skeptical of Baconnaise. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 06:16 PM (Ei3oZ) 597 All they use are emotional pleas because they have nothing else. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 06:17 PM (Ei3oZ) 598 522 ... regarding Whole Foods. I liked his WSJ article but the place is overpriced and full of sanctimonious lefties. The Clarendon, Va store is always full of bad-ass lesbians. Do NOT get between them and the beer case. Posted by: J. Moses Browning at November 07, 2009 06:18 PM (FF38Z) 599 Go ahead, Nancy, pass it. Still have to get it through the Senate. The only question, does the GOP sing "Na Na Na Na" for the 218th vote ala, the Penn. Democrat who walked the plank for Clinton in 1993. She got her ass handed to her in 1994. Posted by: Mallamutt at November 07, 2009 06:19 PM (V9SYy) 600 Well, this Pelosi/Obama Care bill will sure increase the demand for voodoo/chickenfeet doctors out of Haiti since the real doctors will be leaving the profession. We'll all be calling some phone bank in India to be diagnosed and then they will schedule our first face to face visit with a "medical" professional in about 9 months from the date of the phone call and an email allowing you to get "free" motrin to make the wait bearable. Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 06:21 PM (cvmTR) 601 The Clarendon, Va store is always full of bad-ass lesbians. Do NOT get between them and the beer case. Make an announcement about a half-price sale on tuna and/or flannel. Works every time. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:21 PM (UaSIe) 602 All they use are emotional pleas because they have nothing else. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 06:17 PM (Ei3oZ) But isn't that always how they roll? If you don't vote for Commie Care you are a mean spirited and selfish Nazi who wants to see people die. Scoundrels, the whole lot of them. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 06:21 PM (+FzLa) 603 All they use are emotional pleas because they have nothing else. They never do. All libtard moves are based on feelings. Nothing thoughtful or common-sense about it. And, yeah, all this sob stories are making me want to stick a fork in my eye. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 06:22 PM (9Wv2j) 604 Make an announcement about a half-price sale on tuna and/or flannel. Works every time. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:21 PM (UaSIe) Don't forget bib overalls. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 06:22 PM (+FzLa) 605 Yanno, before this stuff really got started, I remember Rush saying that if they got healthcare, it's all over. Those words keep me up at night. Do we need to start really looking into what to do if this goes into law? What could we do? It's all good to say we're fukt, just curl up and die, but I ain't goin down like that. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 06:22 PM (Ei3oZ) 606 If Obama eventually signs some HC law, is there any way it can be overturned sometime in the future especially if "benefits" don't begin until 2013? Posted by: Trish at November 07, 2009 06:23 PM (0U5Kd) 607 I am convinced that Pelosi collects balls in the first hours after the election. She has all the blue ones and quite a few red ones. Posted by: Naan at November 07, 2009 06:23 PM (YR3gL) 608 I SO wanna hold Nancy's head under the covers while I fart. Posted by: Cowboy at November 07, 2009 06:24 PM (Gclmc) 609 Thad McCotter is coming up. Gosh, I'd give a bacon donut to give him more than 1 minute. Posted by: sybilll at November 07, 2009 06:24 PM (x6rHq) 610 All Repubs should vote present on the Stupak amendment. Make the dems own it either way. Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 07, 2009 06:24 PM (DIYmd) 611 Hymn.......hymn.........fuck him! Posted by: Fish at November 07, 2009 04:22 PM (6mfq0) Lol! If I only had a nickel for every time I'd be sitting in my favorite bar, which happened to have many veterans as patrons, that that refrain broke out! I'm feeling a lot of hate for congresscritters today. Posted by: TheresaD at November 07, 2009 06:24 PM (iGCmo) 612 @606... Even Vegas wouldn't let you bet on it. Posted by: Doc at November 07, 2009 06:25 PM (rzJpR) 613 Re #605 tdpwells "Do we need to start really looking into what to do if this goes into law? What could we do? It's all good to say we're fukt, just curl up and die, but I ain't goin down like that." There's going to be a revolution eventually. Posted by: RayJ at November 07, 2009 06:25 PM (bpbzk) 614 Don't forget bib overalls. {squawk) Will the owner of the H1 Hummer/Butched-up Duallie/Dodge Ram with stacks please go to the parking lot. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:25 PM (UaSIe) 615 I am convinced that Pelosi collects balls in the first hours after the election. She has all the blue ones and quite a few red ones. Posted by: Naan at November 07, 2009 06:23 PM (YR3gL) I hope that scrunt gets an inoperable brain tumor. I would laugh like a drunken Hyena during her press conference. That is all. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 06:25 PM (+FzLa) 616 Make an announcement about a half-price sale on tuna and/or flannel. Works every time. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:21 PM (UaSIe) Don't forget bib overalls. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 06:22 PM (+FzLa) And organic hairball remedy...for their cats, of course. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 06:25 PM (Ei3oZ) 617 Dammit, I wanted Joe to say it was all LIES! Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 06:26 PM (9Wv2j) 618 Joe Wilson -- WOOT! Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:27 PM (UaSIe) 619 About over-turning it, I'm not sure. Mark Levin has said it would be very difficult but not impossible.The key is to take over the Congress and the Presidency, meaning before 2013. Mark also said he expects lawsuits against it. That is if it contains some of the things in the House. For example the part making all people have approved health care. I guess we just have to wait and see what the Senate comes up with. Posted by: Donna at November 07, 2009 06:27 PM (6heFO) 620 Brain cancer is not painfull enough. Posted by: Naan at November 07, 2009 06:27 PM (YR3gL) 621 ...Floss Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:28 PM (UaSIe) 622 There's going to be a revolution eventually. Posted by: RayJ at November 07, 2009 06:25 PM (bpbzk) If this passes, it'll just speed things up. That's the silver lining. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 06:30 PM (9Wv2j) 623 Rush saying that if they got healthcare, it's all over. B/c he knows that it includes gun control, food control. education camp control, wealth control, vote control, and tax rates of 92% Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:30 PM (UaSIe) 624 O HAI THAR DRAGON LADY Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 06:30 PM (Ei3oZ) 625 You goldbugs need to stop listening to Gordo Liddy. The only metals worth collecting right now are brass, copper and lead. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 07, 2009 06:30 PM (9Lm5R) 626 DIAF, Nan Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 06:31 PM (9Wv2j) 627 I'm praying this piece of shit doesn't pass, but alas, my heart tells me it will. How does this help ANYTHING! My son has been unemployed for almost a year, my niece just lost her home. For fucks sake, what's wrong with these idiots! Posted by: jewells at November 07, 2009 06:32 PM (lv7H+) 628 The fuckin scarecrow is talking. What I'd like to do to her. It carries a very long sentence, put it that way. Posted by: sybilll at November 07, 2009 06:32 PM (x6rHq) 629 Okay was there a donut hole memo that I missed, wtf?? Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 06:32 PM (Ei3oZ) 630 #628. Amen, brother. Posted by: jewells at November 07, 2009 06:33 PM (lv7H+) 631 Pelosi: $8b for biomedical research (as we tax biomed $.5 trillion) Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:33 PM (UaSIe) 632 I've never hit a woman in my life but rest assured if I ever meet the Botox Bolshevik I'm gonna punch her right in her fucking face. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 06:34 PM (+FzLa) 633 Posted by: sybilll at November 07, 2009 06:32 PM (x6rHq) I'm having the same evil thoughts. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 06:34 PM (9Wv2j) 634 I've never hit a woman in my life but rest assured if I ever meet the Botox Bolshevik I'm gonna punch her right in her fucking face. Hell, it would probably be an improvement. Posted by: jewells at November 07, 2009 06:35 PM (lv7H+) 635 C'mon, Joe Wilson, you've got one more in you. YOU LIE! Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:35 PM (UaSIe) 636 Peaches-? Posted by: Naan at November 07, 2009 06:36 PM (YR3gL) 637 new thread please! Posted by: politicalmuse at November 07, 2009 06:36 PM (kLKnf) 638 All is not lost. There is still the Senate. And we'll have blue dogs on record that will make it easier to displace them in 2010 & 2012. Posted by: MDr at November 07, 2009 06:37 PM (ucq49) 639 That's one damned long "minute"! Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:37 PM (UaSIe) 640 YOU LIE Bitch! Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:35 PM (UaSIe) FIFY Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 06:37 PM (+FzLa) 641 Odds that if this crap sandwich passes that people dumb enough to have actually donated to a Democrat get a fundraising e-mail saying "Now that we have passed this historic healthcare bill, we need your donation to defend our members from false, malicious attacks by th eeemies of change".....1 to 1/2 of .1 Because today is all about placating the liberal base. Posted by: Mallamutt at November 07, 2009 06:37 PM (V9SYy) 642 You guys, I won't be able to handle the smugness if it passes. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 06:37 PM (Ei3oZ) 643 632 I've never hit a woman in my life but rest assured if I ever meet the Botox Bolshevik I'm gonna punch her right in her fucking face. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 06:34 PM (+FzLa) You're not really hitting a woman in that case, just a bag of botox with female DNA. Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 06:38 PM (cvmTR) 644 Mary Jo's unfinished thought was blub-glub-glub Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:38 PM (UaSIe) 645 SS guys will probably get real nervous if this comes to pass and the public gets more and more angry. Inevitable that someone will try to take a shot at some politician. Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 06:39 PM (cvmTR) 646 You guys, I won't be able to handle the smugness if it passes. Ditto Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:40 PM (UaSIe) 647 tdpwells, Remember as bad as this will be, it was supposed to be a law in July. The people spoke and kept them at bay for 4 months. It is not going to be a slam dunk in the Senate, so we should concentrate on keeping it from passing there. The Senate is not as wacko for the most part as the House is .Keep the faith! Posted by: Donna at November 07, 2009 06:40 PM (6heFO) 648 Wolverines!!!!!! Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 06:40 PM (YX6i/) 649 Christ, that smirking bitch Pelosi is saying,"No longer will insurance companies come between you and your doctor." Right. It'll just be Federal Death Panels! That God can resist striking this fascist BITCH down with lightning only goes to show just how amazing His grace really is. Posted by: CoolCzech at November 07, 2009 06:41 PM (QECjC) 650 645 God forbid Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:41 PM (UaSIe) 651 That mofo did not just bring up Jim Crow laws...YES, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT, SHALL WE? Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 06:41 PM (Ei3oZ) 652 649 Christ, that smirking bitch Pelosi is saying,"No longer will insurance companies come between you and your doctor." Right. It'll just be Federal Death Panels! That God can resist striking this fascist BITCH down with lightning only goes to show just how amazing His grace really is. Posted by: CoolCzech at November 07, 2009 06:41 PM (QECjC) Nope, you'll just have some unelected Czar to make a decision on YOUR life and health for you. Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 06:42 PM (cvmTR) 653 Hilarious to see Rangel lecture Boehner on ethics. And may I say I'll gladly donate to Owens' opponent on 2010. Posted by: Xasteius at November 07, 2009 06:42 PM (tb9ej) 654 The Senate is not as wacko for the most part as the House is . I don't know about that.... But would it be wrong to inquire as to the current state of Sheets Byrd's health? Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 07, 2009 06:42 PM (OkT2m) 655 This is no way to live- waiting for the axe to fall, knowing soon there will be another Democrat bill introduced that will further erode our rights and liberties.... With every bill the citizenry becomes more emasculated, robbed of the tools needed to be self-sufficent and the ability to forge our own path. It makes me sick. These politicians; offering amendments as if putting mayonnaise on shit somehow doesn't make it shit any more. A bill that prohibits abortions but still allows people to be jailed for not having insurance, that punitively taxes people who have good insurance, that forces people onto the government plan and robs them of control over their own lives is still a piece of shit bill. No amount of patching that sinking ship will make it sea-worthy. The bill needs to die, go down in flames, with nary a cinder left. I'm so sick of friends who think this is a good idea; sick of their liberal tripe, who refuse to see they have NO RIGHT to the fruits of anyone else's labours except their own. I am so sick of it, I can barely be polite to these people any more. I am incredibly angry. Dole out our hard earned money to who? Nameless faceless people that bureaucrats decide are worthy, while robbing us of hours of our lives through confiscatory taxes? If this passes the Rubicon will have been crossed. God help this country. Posted by: linlithgow at November 07, 2009 06:42 PM (xpBkP) 656 Posted by: Donna at November 07, 2009 06:40 PM (6heFO) I know, I'm tryin! Tis my job to figure out worse case scenarios, hard to turn that off when I'm not at work. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 06:42 PM (Ei3oZ) 657 That God can resist Free will. He gave us this wonderful country. We let it slip of our own free will. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:42 PM (UaSIe) 658 He gave us this wonderful country. We let it slip of our own free will. None of us did. Most of the damage was done before my parents were born. Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 07, 2009 06:44 PM (OkT2m) 659 Earlier when I saw Nancy Kruschev and Stasi Hoyer channeling Ted Kennedy and saying that this was basically all about making his lifelong dream come true, I swear it was all I could do to keep myself from whipping out my pistol and firing 15 rounds into my 42" LCD HDTV. In this economy I can't afford another one right now. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 06:44 PM (+FzLa) 660 The chair is against the wall. Posted by: GrindingMetal at November 07, 2009 06:44 PM (xpBkP) 661 God bless and keep America, I pray. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 06:44 PM (UaSIe) 662 Wolverines!!!!!! Could we change that to AMERICANS!!!!!! No hyphens, no modifiers no apologies. Oh and no communists either. Posted by: Naan at November 07, 2009 06:45 PM (YR3gL) 663 tdpwells, I know how you feel. But there have be rumblings out of the Senate that they are at least a tiny bit wary of passing anything too big and especially too expensive. We all know this piece of crap is both. This will surely bring out more people to protest this new plan, whatever it may be. We just have to stay engaged. Posted by: Donna at November 07, 2009 06:46 PM (6heFO) 664 You guys, I won't be able to handle the smugness if it passes. Misplaced smugness then. You have a 70 seat majority and you just eeked out a bill. And remember, its not pass the Senate yet, and Harry Reid is talking like a vote won't take place till January 2010. Then you have the conference and another vote. So, every yes vote today is just one more person that a lot of pressure can be applied to. This is only 1st down. Posted by: Mallamutt at November 07, 2009 06:47 PM (V9SYy) 665 Brain cancer is not painfull enough. Posted by: Naan at November 07, 2009 06:27 PM (YR3gL) Bone or throat cancer mucho painful throat because of the treatment. Posted by: YIKES! at November 07, 2009 06:47 PM (fUNEl) 666 Posted by: Donna at November 07, 2009 06:46 PM (6heFO) Yeah, I plan on hoarding a lot of my sick/vacation time when the new year starts for visits to DC, state capital demonstrations, etc. Can't just sit here. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 06:48 PM (Ei3oZ) 667 tdpwells, I know how you feel. But there have be rumblings out of the Senate that they are at least a tiny bit wary of passing anything too big and especially too expensive. We all know this piece of crap is both. This will surely bring out more people to protest this new plan, whatever it may be. We just have to stay engaged. Posted by: Donna at November 07, 2009 06:46 PM (6heFO) The Heritage institute came out with a report today claiming the CBO's 1.2 trillion markup of Socialized Medicine is way off. It'll be more like 2.4 trillion. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 06:49 PM (+FzLa) 668 Just got home and haven't had a chance to catch up on the thread. In case someone hasn't listed the individual office numbers, here's a link from Conservatives4Palin. http://tinyurl.com/yexpzh9 Posted by: RushBabe at November 07, 2009 06:50 PM (LKkE8) 669 I agree with those who say if this bill passes by a small amount, it will scare the Senate because of the large advantage the dhimmis have in the house. Not exactly an overwhelming win.Lets hope if it passes the margin stays as small as it looks like it will be. Posted by: Donna at November 07, 2009 06:50 PM (6heFO) 670 641 "Because today is all about placating the liberal base." Yeah, this is exactly right. A few months ago I was terrified but now this is looking like the cap and trade nonsense. The bill passes in the House by one or two votes and then dies in the Senate. The only way this makes sense is if the Dems are just trying to show the loony Left that they tried. Posted by: andrew at November 07, 2009 06:51 PM (DJSNH) 671 Twitter is buzzing about FDL uncovering that this will elminate SChip. Libs are fuming. Posted by: sybilll at November 07, 2009 06:51 PM (x6rHq) 672 Damn, gonna have to dig out my hippie silhouettes again and get some range time in. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 06:51 PM (EL+OC) 673 CBO did a bang-up job on the medicare/medicaid estimates in the 60's as well. I take their figure and triple it. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 06:52 PM (Ei3oZ) 674 Twitter is buzzing about FDL uncovering that this will elminate SChip. This is funny. But I'm not going to say why. Let them figure it out for themselves. Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 07, 2009 06:52 PM (OkT2m) 675 Yikes- I was thinking rather of ass cancer spread to the pelvis. Can't sit or shit. Posted by: Naan at November 07, 2009 06:53 PM (YR3gL) 676 Nancy is insane. I don't mean that figuratively. She is nuts. Passage of PelosiCare will crush the Democrats a year from now. Posted by: eman at November 07, 2009 06:53 PM (03TtP) 677 Oh, goodie! I was wondering when McClintock was going to get some podium time. Woo hoo! Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 06:56 PM (9Wv2j) 678 32 Democrat "no" votes so far.. ...jes 8 more, baby Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 06:57 PM (AnTyA) 679 Re#676 Eman "Passage of PelosiCare will crush the Democrats a year from now." She's playing for all the marbles. Doesn't matter what happens to Democrats later. They win this, they win all. Actually, she's pretty damn smart. Posted by: RayJ at November 07, 2009 06:58 PM (bpbzk) 680 Nancy is insane. I don't mean that figuratively. She is nuts. Passage of PelosiCare will crush the Democrats a year from now. Posted by: eman at November 07, 2009 06:53 PM (03TtP) She doesn't give a crap. In the Congress or out of the Congress she'll still be a millionaire limousine lefty with a big fat pension and lifetime private health insurance paid for by you and me, the proletariat. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 06:59 PM (+FzLa) 681 I can't see Bob Beckel being happy about the pizza and donut restriction. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 06:59 PM (Ei3oZ) 682 679 It's her and BHO's last card; she has to play it. The recent elections show that. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 07:00 PM (UaSIe) 683 They win this, they win all. Actually, she's George Soros is pretty damn smart. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 07:00 PM (EL+OC) 684 The only way this makes sense is if the Dems are just trying to show the loony Left that they tried. Exactly. Nancy is trying to accomplish 2 things with this vote. 1) keep her progressive element happy by passing a public option bill in the house and 2) see how many of her members who are in tough district she can protect by cutting them loose. They can't afford a defeat - so she will win with 218 or 219. The fun (for us) is that all of those congress critters in margianal district who have to walk the plank for this are going to be upgrading their resumes shortly - cause they know in 2010 they are out of work. Posted by: Mallamutt at November 07, 2009 07:00 PM (V9SYy) 685 I am SO glad Pelosi reminded me it was exactly 3 years ago today that the Democrats took control, and look where we are now. Makes it easier to hate her. Posted by: sybilll at November 07, 2009 07:01 PM (x6rHq) 686 Rep. Clarke: we will usher in a welfare smorgasbord, and claim it as a Right. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 07:02 PM (UaSIe) 687 Damn, gonna have to dig out my hippie silhouettes again and get some range time in. Already been to the range today. I love the smell of burning Varget..... Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 07, 2009 07:03 PM (9Lm5R) 688 Spending my Saturday night counting Democratic votes?! My God, is this purgatory? Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 07, 2009 07:03 PM (DPM1U) 689 Re#682 Rewrite! "It's her and BHO's last card; she has to play it. The recent elections show that." True. But sometimes Hail Mary's work. It did today. Posted by: RayJ at November 07, 2009 07:03 PM (bpbzk) 690 The more I watch the arguments between the left and the right, the more convinced I am that the left lives in a permanent state of FUCKING LA-LA LAND. I swear they'd try to legislate the tooth fairy into existence if they could. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 07:03 PM (Ei3oZ) 691 I've been lurking here for the last half-hour. Haven't commented because I went back to check my ammo stocks. Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 07, 2009 07:04 PM (E7I9a) 692 If a rogue meteor wiped out Washington D.C. tonight, it wouldn't hurt my feelings none. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:05 PM (+FzLa) 693 Hey Rep. Andrews, you wouldn't be talking about the lobbyists that now work in the WH admin, would you? I'm just checkin... Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 07:05 PM (Ei3oZ) 694 Anyone here from Tucson know how Gabrielle Giffords is voting? Posted by: Jose at November 07, 2009 07:05 PM (p5y6H) 695 Just heard the mf bomb + a shit dropped from some fans during the Breeders coverage. Guess morons love horse racing. Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 07:05 PM (YX6i/) 696 I was thinking rather of ass cancer spread to the pelvis. Can't sit or shit. Posted by: Naan at November 07, 2009 06:53 PM (YR3gL) That explains Nancy. Can't park her ass and full of shit. Posted by: YIKES! at November 07, 2009 07:07 PM (fUNEl) 697 Damn. I took a assnailing upthread. Healthcare is a service. You pay for it. It isn't a right. I go to the store for beers and get commieized. Jeesh, people. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 07:08 PM (lN56Y) 698 "We had a lot more kids than we could afford, so now someone else has to pay for their medical care. 'Scuse me, I gotta go wash the SUV, we're going on a vacation back to my country for a couple of weeks." "I can't pay for my health care cause I started having babies when I was 14 so I had to drop out of school and every damn on of them babies' daddies are in prison, so you need to make my life right. For the childrens." Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 07:08 PM (9Wv2j) 699 Okay if we'd started a drinking game based on # of times 'donut hole' was uttered, we'd all be in ER with alcohol poisoning. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 07:09 PM (Ei3oZ) 700 "I can't pay for my health care cause I started having babies when I was 14 so I had to drop out of school and every damn on of them babies' daddies are in prison, so you need to make my life right. For the childrens churns." Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 07:08 PM (9Wv2j) FIFY Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:10 PM (+FzLa) 701 Bachmann just got some applause. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 07:11 PM (EL+OC) 702 i'm just waiting for somebody to slip and say "glory hole." Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 07:11 PM (dwwPD) 703 702 i'm just waiting for somebody to slip and say "glory hole." Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 07:11 PM (dwwPD) I would lol so hard I think I'd pee my pants. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 07:12 PM (Ei3oZ) 704 When this disgusting government take over bill finally comes up for a vote, EVERY Republican should walk out and not vote. Let the Democrats OWN this bastard. Posted by: tkh at November 07, 2009 07:12 PM (dvcjD) 705 I go to the store for beers and get commieized. Jeesh, people. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 07:08 PM (lN56Y) Relax grampa, watch some Golden Girls or something, it'll make you feel better. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:12 PM (+FzLa) 706 Posted by: tkh at November 07, 2009 07:12 PM (dvcjD) As a recovering democrat, I 100% agree with this. 4 freaking hours of debate for a TWO TRILLION DOLLAR BILL! Let the Undemocrats completley and fully own this piece of $hitty illegal legislation! Hell, we have more time for debate for naming post offices. Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 07:16 PM (ACkhT) 707 Damn. I took a assnailing upthread. Healthcare is a service. You pay for it. It isn't a right. I go to the store for beers and get commieized. Jeesh, people. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 07:08 PM (lN56Y) Who you be dissin, boy? Posted by: Tinian at November 07, 2009 07:16 PM (7+pP9) 708 Relax grampa, watch some Golden Girls or something, it'll make you feel better. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:12 PM (+FzLa) No. I mean fuck. My job is to enforce contracts and civil law to the benefit of my clients. Yes I take a cut. Or as I call it, income. People don't like the free market than can kiss old spot and move to mother fucking Cuba. Or Illinois. Same fucking difference. Suck me. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 07:18 PM (lN56Y) 709 oh goody, owens up. Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 07:18 PM (dwwPD) 710 Here goes liar Owen's from NY. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 07:18 PM (EL+OC) 711 He advises hospitals on how they can gang up with insurance companies to screw Americans out of their right to health care. What the fuck? Your words. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 07:19 PM (lN56Y) 712 If SCHIP goes away under this bill, can I have my cigarette taxes back? Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 07:19 PM (cvmTR) 713 Herr, it's Capitalist stooges like you who have nearly destroyed this country! Posted by: BHO at November 07, 2009 07:20 PM (UaSIe) 714 I'm sure the assholes from the remotest inbred regions of upstate NY are proud of Owen's. Oh so proud. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 07:20 PM (EL+OC) 715 Here goes liar Owen's from NY. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 07:18 PM (EL+OC) Democrat liar is kind of an oxymoron. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:20 PM (+FzLa) 716 Democrat liar is kind of an oxymoron. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:20 PM (+FzLa) I think you mean redundant. Oxymoron would be Democrat truth-teller. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 07:22 PM (Ei3oZ) 717 Here comes a sob story.... Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 07:22 PM (UJIeT) 718 No. I mean fuck. My job is to enforce contracts and civil law to the benefit of my clients. Yes I take a cut. Or as I call it, income. People don't like the free market than can kiss old spot and move to mother fucking Cuba. Or Illinois. Same fucking difference. Suck me. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 07:18 PM (lN56Y) Hey, I'm on your side here. Who the hell pissed in your Quaker Oats Mr. Brimley ? Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:23 PM (+FzLa) 719 Democrat liar is kind of an oxymoron. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:20 PM (+FzLa) I think you mean redundant. He meant oxycontin. His granddaughter demanded it. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 07:24 PM (lN56Y) 720 Stop lying. In practical law, all anyone has to say to get free healthcare in this country is these three words, "No hablo engles." Posted by: Joe Wilson at November 07, 2009 07:25 PM (UaSIe) 721 I can't watch the debate. The only time I want to see the Pigloshi Slut is when a disgruntled democrat puts a 30-06 slug between those crazy eyes. No brain damage would be possible, there isn't one home, and all other damage could be repaired with two bandaid's. I'm actually watching reruns of Sanford and Son rather than watch the bunch of morons in congress. Posted by: Scrapiron at November 07, 2009 07:25 PM (GkYyh) 722 Good god, I'm working on a historic bender this evening. Mrs. Blazer may just kick me out of the house tonight Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:26 PM (+FzLa) 723 I repeat, sarc tags save lives (and lowers BP) Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 07:26 PM (UaSIe) 724 Oh, I like this guy. He's really hot! Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 07:27 PM (9Wv2j) 725 Why isn't Michelle Bachman the minority leader? She's got balls. I mean it's cool to have a dude named "Boner" as leader, but the guy's kinda limp, if you know what I mean, and I think you do, (Blazer). /nods Posted by: Tweet O'Rly? at November 07, 2009 07:27 PM (XiLyG) 726 Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:23 PM (+FzLa) I know you are gramps, but what's with others dissing what I thought was a nice little niche market; i.e, making sure Insurance companies, which no one hates more than me, because I spend 9 hours a day dealing with them, fulfill their obligations to their patients? That's the fucking market, and it does keep costs under control, as much as my swinging dick can. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 07:27 PM (lN56Y) 727 I can't watch the debate... And you shouldn't. That was beyond the pale. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 07:28 PM (UaSIe) 728 joebrooks RT @GOPWhip: UPDATED COUNT: 34 House Dems now oppose Pelosi�s trillion dollar plus #healthcare Posted by: sybilll at November 07, 2009 07:28 PM (x6rHq) 729 In practical law, all anyone has to say to get free healthcare in this country is these three words, "No hablo engles." Y hablo Marx-Engels gets you a private room. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 07:28 PM (lN56Y) 730 I mean it's cool to have a dude named "Boner" as leader, but the guy's kinda limp, if you know what I mean, and I think you do, (Blazer). /nods Posted by: Tweet O'Rly? at November 07, 2009 07:27 PM (XiLyG) Are you talkin' to me Tweety bird? I'll have you know that I need a pill to keep that sucker down, not get it up. That Bea Arthur really does it for me. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:30 PM (+FzLa) 731 Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson: We shall overcome... Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 07:30 PM (UaSIe) 732 725 Why isn't Michelle Bachman the minority leader? She's got balls. LOL I remember when it was between Lott and Alexander, and Lott won by one vote. Lamar Alexander! Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 07:31 PM (Ei3oZ) 733 Y hablo Marx-Engels gets you a private room. I am not worthy. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 07:31 PM (UaSIe) 734 "'Stop lying. In practical law, all anyone has to say to get free healthcare in this country is these three words, "No hablo engles.'" No kidding. Many moons ago, I applied for MediCal here in California. There were two sections: one for citizens where I had to declare every penny I had (the interviewer made me empty my packets and show her my wallet) and one for "undocumented workers" which required a signature (or "XX" if you didn't know how to sign your own name). Posted by: RayJ at November 07, 2009 07:32 PM (bpbzk) 735 "arlier when I saw Nancy Kruschev and Stasi Hoyer channeling Ted Kennedy and saying that this was basically all about making his lifelong dream come true, I swear it was all I could do to keep myself from whipping out my pistol and firing 15 rounds into my 42" LCD HDTV. In this economy I can't afford another one right now." Don't come to California. You'd have to waste time swapping mags. Posted by: Richard McEnroe at November 07, 2009 07:32 PM (pEXyx) 736 Time to sack DC. p.s. I'm serious. Posted by: pam at November 07, 2009 07:32 PM (h8R9p) 737 UPDATED COUNT: 34 House Dems now oppose Pelosi�s trillion dollar NFW! Really? Might we end up doing the happy dance tonight after all? Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 07:32 PM (9Wv2j) 738 Lamar Alexander! Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 07:31 PM (Ei3oZ) That would've been a fucking treat. We all would've had to buy flannel shirts, bad accents, and had a testicle cut off, or sepnd 5 years at Club Fed. What a fucking douche. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 07:33 PM (lN56Y) 739 Just heard on the radio that Collin Peterson (D-MN7) will vote no. Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at November 07, 2009 07:33 PM (Z0bVg) 740 737, who are the new recruits to the cause of sanity and reason? Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 07:34 PM (dwwPD) 741 OT but HotAir has a post up about how Hasan went to the same mosque as two of the 9/11 hijackers. I'd be shocked, but...I'm not. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 07:34 PM (Ei3oZ) 742 NRO's Doctor Doctor! blog suggests Heath Shuler will vote no, but says it isn't confirmed. Maybe he was #34? Posted by: Doc at November 07, 2009 07:34 PM (rzJpR) 743 Don't be too upset about Owens being a yes vote. He knows he won't get re-elected, so his YES means he has a future as a consultant or lobbyist or something. His YES means that Pelosi has one more person that she can let vote NO, and that's what the scramble is all about. With the kind of margin that the Dems have in the House, one more Dem for one more year doesn't make an appreciable difference. Sure, Dede would have been a NO vote, but also would have kept conservatives demoralized. With the Dede/Owens/Hoffman deal, I think conservatives won - nationwide we got reinforcement that running a real conservative against a RINO in a primary is the right thing to do, winnable, and worthwhile. Don't let the theater of today's vote make you rethink that, or think that it would have been better to have Dede there. Today's vote would have been the same struggle, that's how the game is played. Posted by: Less at November 07, 2009 07:34 PM (PGXeZ) 744 oh g-d. "vote yes for compassion!" Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 07:34 PM (dwwPD) 745 anyone have a list of reps we can call that are still declared undecided? thanks. Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 07:34 PM (ACkhT) 746 Who is this joker talking about pregnant women dying in Latin America because of no health care? Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 07:35 PM (UJIeT) 747 HotAir has a post up about how Hasan went to the same mosque as two of the 9/11 hijackers How did he get vicarious PTSD there? Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 07:35 PM (lN56Y) 748 Sam Farr(D-CA) proud to be a peace corp vol....during wartime? WAFJ Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 07:35 PM (EL+OC) 749 Time to sack DC. p.s. I'm serious. Posted by: pam at November 07, 2009 07:32 PM (h8R9p) I live in Richmond. Maybe its time for Blazer to cross the Potomac. I'll pick you up on the south shore beneath the Woodrow Wilson bridge. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:35 PM (+FzLa) 750 737 UPDATED COUNT: 34 House Dems now oppose Pelosi�s trillion dollar "NFW! Really? Might we end up doing the happy dance tonight after all?" As little respect as I have for Pelosi and co. I found it hard to believe they would go through with this "show" without making sure they have 218 votes. Posted by: andrew at November 07, 2009 07:36 PM (DJSNH) 751 I'm just getting back from being gone all day. Any word on when they are voting on the Stupak amendment? Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 07:36 PM (UJIeT) 752 On Friday I recall Krauthammer saying it would pass by a slim margin in the house where it would then "die" in the senate. Posted by: Dan at November 07, 2009 07:36 PM (KZraB) 753 UPDATED COUNT: 34 House Dems now oppose Pelosi�s trillion dollar It may rain on Nancy's parade in DC. Put on your rubbers. Ever been drunk in DC? Posted by: Ed, pbuh abdul at November 07, 2009 07:36 PM (UaSIe) 754 random question, has that slimeball obama even gone to fort hood post-crisis? I know that President Bush has (he does live down the road in all fairness of course). Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 07:36 PM (dwwPD) 755 Somebody got the message. Shadegg to lead with other (R)'s and vote Present on Stupak amendment: http://tinyurl.com/yaqov5j Posted by: sybilll at November 07, 2009 07:37 PM (x6rHq) 756 As little respect as I have for Pelosi and co. I found it hard to believe they would go through with this "show" without making sure they have 218 votes. Her choice of plastic surgeons gives me hope, however. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 07:37 PM (lN56Y) 757 If this passes 9/12 will look like a family reunion. Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 07:37 PM (YX6i/) 758 Somebody got the message. Shadegg to lead with other (R)'s and vote Present on Stupak amendment A quiet "fuck yeah" is heard from the peanut gallery. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 07:38 PM (lN56Y) 759 Cohen, Mermphus' wannabe black congressman Posted by: WW Herenton at November 07, 2009 07:38 PM (UaSIe) 760 710 Here goes liar Owen's from NY. LAUGH AT MY CELLULOID THIGHS NOW, REPUBLICANS!!!! ASSHOLES!!!! Posted by: Dede Scozzafava (I lost and now I'm horny) at November 07, 2009 07:39 PM (E7I9a) 761 748 Sam Farr(D-CA) proud to be a peace corp vol....during wartime? WAFJ Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 07:35 PM (EL+OC) Please do not mention that name. He's my rep. Posted by: YIKES! at November 07, 2009 07:39 PM (fUNEl) 762 754 random question, has that slimeball obama even gone to fort hood post-crisis? I know that President Bush has (he does live down the road in all fairness of course). Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 07:36 PM (dwwPD) No. AmericanThinker has a post up about how he went to Camp David instead. He needs his rest, you know. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 07:40 PM (Ei3oZ) 763 random question, has that slimeball obama even gone to fort hood post-crisis? Barry and Sasquatch are going to the memorial service on Tuesday. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 07:40 PM (9Wv2j) 764 #749 Does the South shore have a Tree of Liberty? Posted by: pam at November 07, 2009 07:40 PM (h8R9p) 765 741 "OT but HotAir has a post up about how Hasan went to the same mosque as two of the 9/11 hijackers. I'd be shocked, but...I'm not." If this is true I expect the Leftie media will push hard on the 'we have to ask questions about how the military didn't see this coming' storyline after all of their wishful thinking narratives came crashing down. Posted by: andrew at November 07, 2009 07:40 PM (DJSNH) 766 'Just dropping in to see where everyone went. Man, you guys are made of tougher stuff than I am. Carry on! Posted by: Y-not at November 07, 2009 07:40 PM (sey23) 767 random question, has that slimeball obama even gone to fort hood post-crisis? I know that President Bush has (he does live down the road in all fairness of course). My question is, how many press members will he bring? Posted by: momma at November 07, 2009 07:40 PM (penCf) 768 @750 As little respect as I have for Pelosi and co. I found it hard to believe they would go through with this "show" without making sure they have 218 votes. You mean like how it would be massively foolish for a sitting POTUS to personally push for his home town's Olympic bid when he didn't know for absolute certainty that they were a shoe-in? Posted by: Methos at November 07, 2009 07:41 PM (IoxPW) 769 Posted by: Dan at November 07, 2009 07:36 PM (KZraB) you don't have a youtube link of this by any chance do you? thanks. Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 07:41 PM (ACkhT) 770 There's no stopping this. And you'll be amazed how easily it will pass the Senate. A year from now, the attitude will be "We got socialized medicine, and the world didn't end! Those demotards were right." 2010 will not be a bloodbath, people forget. And the ugly shit doesn't hit until 2013, remember. That is deliberately planned. The GOP will be lucky to pick up twenty seats in the House, maybe even ten. The republic has been dying for decades; the ascension of Teleprompter Jesus is just the arrival of the minister for the funeral. Barry was right, the Nation Below Canada is no more exceptional than Greece or Turkey or Zimbabwe. The voters have seen to that. Let's enjoy our government obedience collars! They're here at last. Posted by: George Orwell at November 07, 2009 07:42 PM (AZGON) 771 UPDATED COUNT: 34 House Dems now oppose Pelosi�s trillion dollar "NFW! Really? Might we end up doing the happy dance tonight after all?" Sweet, the Botoxed Cthulu of the House may get cunt-punted after all. I'll drink to that. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:42 PM (+FzLa) 772 765, check it out: http://bit.ly/1EDVF3 British press broke it, of course. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 07:42 PM (Ei3oZ) 773 Go, Stupak! Posted by: 40m dead at November 07, 2009 07:44 PM (UaSIe) 774 oooh, good, mud's flying over stupak. fissure! fissure!! Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 07:44 PM (dwwPD) 775 Posted by: George Orwell at November 07, 2009 07:42 PM (AZGON) Thanks. I'll sleep well, now that you've enunciated my fears. But it's true, I'm afraid. It needn't be, but it probably is. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 07:44 PM (lN56Y) 776 "You mean like how it would be massively foolish for a sitting POTUS to personally push for his home town's Olympic bid when he didn't know for absolute certainty that they were a shoe-in?" This is a little different because that was an international organization they had no control over. Now it's their own party members. Posted by: andrew at November 07, 2009 07:45 PM (DJSNH) 777 Blazer, even I'd drink to that, and I'm a teetotaler (can't stand the taste of the stuff, not for any moral reason). Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 07:46 PM (Ei3oZ) 778 tdp, heh, you just reminded me of... "Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue." Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 07:47 PM (dwwPD) 779 random question, has that slimeball obama even gone to fort hood post-crisis? I know that President Bush has (he does live down the road in all fairness of course). US President Barack Obama will visit Shanghai and Beijing in mid-November during a four-nation Asia trip that will also take him to Japan, Singapore and South Korea. In announcing Obama's Asian itinerary on Wednesday, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Obama will fly from Singapore to China, where he will visit both Beijing and Shanghai from November 15 to 18. While in China, Obama and President Hu Jintao will hold their third meeting to discuss regional and world issues, including security, nuclear nonproliferation, energy and climate change, Gibbs said. Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 07, 2009 07:47 PM (R6fjc) 780 Rose DeLauro again? Okay, when I look at her, I'm willing to bet she has cobwebs in her vagina. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 07:48 PM (Ei3oZ) 781 Oh, they're all reserving the balance of their time, looks like a hockey game is about to break out here. Popcorn!! Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 07:48 PM (9Wv2j) 782 congratulations, tdpwells, on getting the coveted posting #777. Posted by: Boeing at November 07, 2009 07:48 PM (YX6i/) 783 Blazer, even I'd drink to that, and I'm a teetotaler (can't stand the taste of the stuff, not for any moral reason). Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 07:46 PM (Ei3oZ) To each his own, but in these dark times I find myself slipping more and more into full blown alcoholism. The first thing I'm gonna do when Commie Care passes is sign up for a liver transplant. Although I don't need it yet, might as well tax the system right out of the gate. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:48 PM (+FzLa) 784 Blazer you on fire tonight. (we say fiyah in my neck of the woods) Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 07:49 PM (UJIeT) 785 Woody Allen back on stage. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 07:49 PM (EL+OC) 786 She has no worries about abortion. FUGLY Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 07:50 PM (UaSIe) 787 782, I had post 666, too. Tis my night. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 07:50 PM (Ei3oZ) 788 peaches: what's going on? are the repubs walking out, I hope so! Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 07, 2009 07:50 PM (ACkhT) 789 Wow...DeLauro looks like Elvis Costello in drag Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 07:50 PM (AnTyA) 790 inb4 Herr says I won't get a liver transplant because I'll be in front of a Death Panel. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:51 PM (+FzLa) 791 Posted by: George Orwell at November 07, 2009 07:42 PM (AZGON) Go fuck yourself. Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at November 07, 2009 07:51 PM (Z0bVg) 792 I haven't read many comments.. but I'm assuming most of them have been pretty much, "Cockholsters, the whole lot of them." Posted by: Dave C at November 07, 2009 07:51 PM (qmecx) 793 (we say fiyah in my neck of the woods) Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 07:49 PM (UJIeT) We say farr in mine. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:52 PM (+FzLa) 794 ooooh, this is getting good. Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 07:52 PM (dwwPD) 795 On Rush's old TV, show he would show videos of Rosa DeLauro speaking anytime he wanted a really whacked-out Dem to get a reaction from his audience (which was always howling boos and catcalls) Posted by: fiatboomer at November 07, 2009 07:52 PM (0Wf6c) 796 Funny how Capps cares about a decision between a woman and her physician yet will vote for a bill which allows the government to step squarely into that very private relationship. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 07:53 PM (UJIeT) 797 We say farr in mine. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:52 PM (+FzLa) I'm in California, they mostly say fuego here. Coming soon to a neighborhood near you! Especially once the freeeeeee health care is instituted. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 07:53 PM (9Wv2j) 798 767 random question, has that slimeball obama even gone to fort hood post-crisis? I know that President Bush has (he does live down the road in all fairness of course). My question is, how many press members will he bring? Posted by: momma at November 07, 2009 07:40 PM (penCf) no...obama has been too busy pushing his govt takeover of health care to visit the injured..... Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 07, 2009 07:54 PM (5r0Tz) 799 We say farr in mine. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:52 PM (+FzLa) Your neck of the woods sounds more fun. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 07:54 PM (UJIeT) 800 792 I haven't read many comments.. but I'm assuming most of them have been pretty much, "Cockholsters, the whole lot of them." Posted by: Dave C at November 07, 2009 07:51 PM (qmecx) You're wrong. You can't suck dead ones through a holster. Posted by: TexasJew at November 07, 2009 07:55 PM (SjlJR) 801 This abortion debate is going to be the undoing of this. IMO. Why is an amendment needed, if there is NO abortion funding in the bill? Oh, that is because it is excluded in the underlying bill, NOT the Pelosi bill. Note the careful use of the word underlying in these banshee's responses. Posted by: sybilll at November 07, 2009 07:55 PM (x6rHq) 802 random question, has that slimeball obama even gone to fort hood post-crisis? I know that President Bush has (he does live down the road in all fairness of course). My question is, how many press members will he bring? Posted by: momma at November 07, 2009 07:40 PM (penCf) Shit, I just realized momma was in da' house. Where you been gal ? I think someone said you were posting over at IB now. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:56 PM (+FzLa) 803 I know I'm wearing my 'fraidy cat diapers on this, but everything we've seen so far indicates that in fact the Demotard leadership and the "blue lapdogs" are going to ignore not only every "tradition" of Congressional governance, but will break laws if they think no one will stop them. Look at what Boxer did in the Senate the other day. They are acting as absolute autocrats, and what could prevent them? They can "go nuclear" and win this most important battle. Steyn is right. Once the gubmint is in charge of your medicine, your relationship to it is forever changed. Even if the GOP could win back BOTH houses in 2010, would they have the guts and stamina to not only ignore the loud protests of libtard voters, the 52%, but also the fucking entire major left-wing media, from ABC to PBS? No, if this passes the GOP will never repeal it, even with majorities in both houses. And it would need to be veto-proof with Obastard in the Oval Unicorn Stables. There's an argument to be made that "we ought not go nuclear in the Senate or House, lest the tables are turned on us one day." But we could have done so when the GOP had both houses. Instead, the Demotard lefties have both and have gone nuclear on us instead. And when you are the target of a nuke, that usually means "game over." Put another way, one can argue "fight fair, so others will fight fair with us." Well, we did, and lost. Now the scourge of collectivism and state authoritarianism championed by the Demotards is fighting dirty, and will win... the entire war. We will have no future opportunity to fight either fairly or dirty. Socialized medicine is a Rubicon. Hell, somewhat less than half of our spending on medicine already goes through the gubmint at some point, with Medicare and Medical. This ain't like ordinary welfare... and look at how long it took to beat that back, with Clinton finally signing the GOP reforms. But Obastard has already undone that reform with the stimulus passed earlier this year, so we're back to the bad old days on welfare. Nancy owns us. One can only hope she eats a plate of bad oysters, and soon. Posted by: George Orwell at November 07, 2009 07:56 PM (AZGON) 804 all right, whatwe' think? italian sausages cooked in beer with sweet onions for dinner? good call? Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 07:56 PM (dwwPD) 805 ...but will break laws if they think no one will stop them. Same for Obama, the WH shall not lobby, for instance. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 07:58 PM (UaSIe) 806 Some people here are so... eloquent. Enjoy your death panel. Posted by: George Orwell at November 07, 2009 07:58 PM (AZGON) 807 that woman is an idiot, i know plenty of people who for a pro-life stance has nothing to do with religion. Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 07:58 PM (dwwPD) 808 "dictates to women how to spend their own money" That's rich. This fucking bill does just that to EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN CITIZEN Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 07:58 PM (UJIeT) 809 Herr says I won't get a liver transplant because I'll be in front of a Death Panel. Hell, you'll be the guest of honor. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 07, 2009 07:58 PM (lN56Y) 810 Your neck of the woods sounds more fun. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 07:54 PM (UJIeT) Well we just voted in a Republican majority down ticket this past Tuesday, so there is that. I just hope McDonnel will invoke the tenth if this piece of shit passes. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:58 PM (+FzLa) 811 How can you be a Catholic and not support Stupak? Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 07:58 PM (EL+OC) 812 804, I'll be there in fifteen. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 07:59 PM (Ei3oZ) 813 oh, hey, it's Representative Nadler (ACORN-NY)! Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 07:59 PM (dwwPD) 814 wow, I guess abortion isn't the third-rail issue some in our party make it out to be. hmmm, maybe it's a winner, and maybe that's why the Democrats keep trying to get us to shut up about it. Posted by: Tweet O'Rly? at November 07, 2009 07:59 PM (XiLyG) 815 I wonder if the Pubbies planned all this: First, tell everyone that they'll all vote "yes" on Stupak. Then, when the Dems just get to thinking they have enough votes, announce that some unknown number of Pubbies will vote "present." Now the Dems don't know how many votes they need. Hm. Na. Might work so that can't be the plan. Posted by: Popcorn at November 07, 2009 07:59 PM (OOehk) 816 811 How can you be a Catholic and not support Stupak? Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 07:58 PM (EL+OC) You're kidding, right? Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 07:59 PM (Ei3oZ) 817 Herr Morgenholz: My apologies -- I hope this will help: /sarc /sarc /sarc /sarc Posted by: Tinian at November 07, 2009 08:00 PM (7+pP9) 818 HBIC IS AT THE PODIUM, YA'LL. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 08:00 PM (Ei3oZ) 819 "random question, has that slimeball obama even gone to fort hood post-crisis? Barry and Sasquatch are going to the memorial service on Tuesday. " He DID send an aromatherapy bouquet to Hasan's beside. Because, you know, he just cares so much... Posted by: Richard McEnroe at November 07, 2009 08:00 PM (pEXyx) 820 If that many congresspersons, on both sides of the aisle, beleive that the bill pays for abortions, you can bet that Liberal bureaucrats will interpret it that way. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 08:01 PM (UaSIe) 821 Well we just voted in a Republican majority down ticket this past Tuesday, so there is that. I just hope McDonnel will invoke the tenth if this piece of shit passes. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:58 PM (+FzLa) No chance of that happening here. Evah. We may get a Republican governor next year after 4 years of Bammy's good buddy, Cadillac Deval Patrick. Together we can, my ass. 10th amendment I presume? Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:02 PM (UJIeT) 822 HBIC IS AT THE PODIUM, YA'LL. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 08:00 PM (Ei3oZ) Thanks for the warning, I can't take no more of the Head Bolshevik In Chief. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 08:02 PM (+FzLa) 823 That these hosers can lie with such abandon on national tv and have absolutely no shame about it still galls me. If we must have another terrorist attack (and of course I don't want one....) I wonder what the effect on our country would be if it was the Capitol Building that was destroyed? Posted by: Cheri at November 07, 2009 08:02 PM (llSaz) 824 1000th! Posted by: Tweet O'Rly? at November 07, 2009 08:03 PM (XiLyG) 825 gee, listening to some of these comments, it's amazing that these dolts don't get that the fact we have to talk about the stupak bill is part and parcel with politicizing health care. They asked for it and now they're shocked, SHOCKED, that they're getting it. To put it eloquently, they're fucking retards. Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 08:03 PM (dwwPD) 826 Re 803 George Orwell " Socialized medicine is a Rubicon." One more left: the Second Amendment Then kiss it all good bye. Posted by: RayJ at November 07, 2009 08:03 PM (bpbzk) 827 Ms. Slaughter. How apropos. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:03 PM (UJIeT) 828 (by comments, i mean the comments in the house, not the comments here, of course) Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 08:03 PM (dwwPD) 829 Can you imagine a Congress with the GOP having majorities in both Houses, with a Repub President, showing the same tenacity and doggedness in pushing a serious conservative agenda? Neither can I. Any Repub that votes for this bill needs to explain why he isn't a Demotard. Posted by: George Orwell at November 07, 2009 08:04 PM (AZGON) 830 803 If the Dems had their act together this would have been passed 3-4 months ago. Lieberman and a few 'Red State' Democrats have a ton of power in the Senate because they can uphold a filibuster with the R's. Plus it's a bit dicey if Byrd will even be healthy enough to make any vote in January. I was terrified like you a few months ago but now I'd say our worst nightmare coming true is very unlikely to come to pass. Posted by: andrew at November 07, 2009 08:04 PM (DJSNH) 831 what the effect on our country would be if it was the Capitol Building that was destroyed We'd mourn the loss of, maybe, a dozen honest people. Tops. Posted by: Popcorn at November 07, 2009 08:04 PM (OOehk) 832 Well we just voted in a Republican majority down ticket this past Tuesday, so there is that. I just hope McDonnel will invoke the tenth if this piece of shit passes. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 07:58 PM (+FzLa) The Att. Gen, Ken Cuccinelli might have the gonads enough to invoke the Tenth in VA. Posted by: Dave C at November 07, 2009 08:05 PM (qmecx) 833 Schakowsky now. Is it a prerequisite for these women to be ugly? Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:05 PM (UJIeT) 834 " Socialized medicine is a Rubicon." One more left: the Second Amendment Then kiss it all good bye. I think Nancy finds that strategy appealing, and subscribes to its newsletter. Posted by: George Orwell at November 07, 2009 08:06 PM (AZGON) 835 One more left: the Second Amendment Then kiss it all good bye. Arguably, they've got that covered in the Healthcare Bill. And guns in Housing. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 08:06 PM (UaSIe) 836 We'd mourn the loss of, maybe, a dozen honest people. Tops. Posted by: Popcorn at November 07, 2009 08:04 PM (OOehk) The janitors. Posted by: TexasJew at November 07, 2009 08:07 PM (SjlJR) 837 This is the scrunt talking was in the Verum Sectium (spelling?) video where she says that the public option will drive the private market out of business and that's what she wants. Posted by: Dave C at November 07, 2009 08:07 PM (qmecx) 838 There was a time when instead of electing Commie bastards to run our country we used to send them on a date with Old Sparky, like the Rosenbergs. Good times, good times. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 08:08 PM (+FzLa) 839 I propose that we require all abortion recipients be given the results of said 'medical procedure' in a clear plastic bag before leaving the clinic. Of course, this presupposes that all women have a conscience and a soul, which I understand may not be the case. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 08:08 PM (Ei3oZ) 840 this abortion debate might just drag us well past the appointed voting deadline btw. Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 08:08 PM (dwwPD) 841 If we hit 1k, ACE's harddrive will frag. The squelers are already screaming. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 08:09 PM (UaSIe) 842 Any update on an actual vote? I'd like to see this pig of a bill shot in the head, then bbq'ed before bed time. Posted by: DngrMse at November 07, 2009 08:09 PM (wynRm) 843 One more left: the Second Amendment Then kiss it all good bye Seriously, that is no joke. The leftards won't be so foolish as to convene a Constitutional Convention to strike down the 2nd Amendment. Instead, with a few key replacements on the SCOTUS, the 2nd Amendment will be reinterpreted to mean the opposite of what is clearly says. Additionally, by means of new prohibitive taxes and mountains of regulations, they will make it as difficult to buy an ordinary Mossberg as it is to carry a fully automatic Uzi in California, concealed. In other words, one can prohibit something by merely making it too expensive and onerous to possess, using levies and regulatory fiat. These leftards are like rust, they never sleep. Posted by: George Orwell at November 07, 2009 08:10 PM (AZGON) 844 Verum Serum you mean? Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 08:11 PM (UaSIe) 845 O/T: Mind if I vent a little? OMG, went to happy hour and my blond friend sure knows how to attract the winners. It's gotta be the boobs and the low cut shirt. But this one was a particular winner as he was trying to impress us and he began talking about astrology and why the vote is tonight on this date hopefully at the specific time. She was enthralled, I was ready to barf. When he started saying the prez has to be protected from people who want to "remote view" him and what he is doing and began explaining what exactly this meant, I couldn't take it anymore and tried to get her to go. I had to go to sit at the bar alone as she was fully enthralled by the "breath of knowledge of this liberal idiot". Ugh the world has gone mad!!! Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 08:11 PM (p302b) 846 So Herr Morgenholz, they're looking for donors at the blood clinic... Posted by: TexasJew at November 07, 2009 08:12 PM (SjlJR) 847 So there will be a roll call vote? Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:13 PM (UJIeT) 848 what just happened, did they go on break? i went out of the room for a second and now they're milling around? Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 08:14 PM (dwwPD) 849 "Schakowsky now. Is it a prerequisite for these women to be ugly?" Yo! How's it going Lopps? Posted by: Dirk Diggler at November 07, 2009 08:14 PM (4xBG1) 850 Blazer - I'm always here, just incognito. When ever I see Pelosi, I always picture Harry Reid's Face between her legs...Does anyone else? You are welcome. Posted by: momma at November 07, 2009 08:14 PM (penCf) 851 Any update on an actual vote? I'd like to see this pig of a bill shot in the head, then bbq'ed before bed time. Damn Man! That would require 1.21 gigawatts and perfect timing!!! Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 08:15 PM (UaSIe) 852 What is Boehner doing? Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:15 PM (UJIeT) 853 O/T: Mind if I vent a little? OMG, went to happy hour and my blond friend sure knows how to attract the winners. It's gotta be the boobs and the low cut shirt. But this one was a particular winner as he was trying to impress us and he began talking about astrology and why the vote is tonight on this date hopefully at the specific time. She was enthralled, I was ready to barf. When he started saying the prez has to be protected from people who want to "remote view" him and what he is doing and began explaining what exactly this meant, I couldn't take it anymore and tried to get her to go. I had to go to sit at the bar alone as she was fully enthralled by the "breath of knowledge of this liberal idiot". Ugh the world has gone mad!!! Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 08:11 PM (p302b) I didn't realize Dennis Kucinich was single now. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 08:15 PM (+FzLa) 854 850 Blazer - I'm always here, just incognito. When ever I see Pelosi, I always picture Harry Reid's Face between her legs...Does anyone else? You are welcome. ::muffled noises:: huh? Posted by: Harry Reid at November 07, 2009 08:15 PM (dwwPD) 855 Yo! How's it going Lopps? Posted by: Dirk Diggler at November 07, 2009 08:14 PM (4xBG1) Hey Dirk! I'm as good as I can be watching this shit show. How are you? Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:16 PM (UJIeT) 856 What is Boehner doing? He has no idea. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 08:16 PM (EL+OC) 857 curious @845 May not be your cup of tea, being sci-fi, but it's hard sci-fi, not fantasy tripe... check out "Fallen Angels" by Pournelle, Flynn and Niven. Takes place as an advancing ice age creeps down North America... and the government is populated by not merely bureaucratic thugs but even new age types. There is a cabinet post that specializes in "alternative science." It's hilariously creepy, and prescient. Posted by: George Orwell at November 07, 2009 08:16 PM (AZGON) 858 morons, so I'm at this bar tonight, having a few drinks, and I spot a blond with nice boobs. So I go over and talk to her. I'm giving my usual rap, about stars and shit, and it's going good, but her friend didn't like me and tried to cock-block me. Posted by: Tweet Burgundy at November 07, 2009 08:16 PM (XiLyG) 859 I'm always here, just incognito. When ever I see Pelosi, I always picture Harry Reid's Face between her legs...Does anyone else? You are welcome. Posted by: momma at November 07, 2009 08:14 PM (penCf) I try not to picture such horrible things. H.P. Lovecraft couldn't even begin to write that one up. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 08:17 PM (+FzLa) 860 I hope the few doctors left in the AMA throw rocks at the dumb cocksucker of a president that they have at their meeting this weekend, for supporting this piece of shit legislation. Posted by: TexasJew at November 07, 2009 08:18 PM (SjlJR) 861 "856 What is Boehner doing? He has no idea. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 08:16 PM (EL+OC)" I'm jsut going to say it...where do these names come from? Boner that's what I see when I read it and you can imagine what I think of. Blazer, you literally made me laugh out loud. I got hoodwinked. I thought since the discussion started out about the goat movie that it would be half way intelligent... Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 08:18 PM (p302b) 862 Tweet Burgundy Guy Friend? He likes her that's why.... Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:20 PM (UJIeT) 863 "860 I hope the few doctors left in the AMA throw rocks at the dumb cocksucker of a president that they have at their meeting this weekend, for supporting this piece of shit legislation. Posted by: TexasJew at November 07, 2009 08:18 PM (SjlJR)" I always thought that those doctors were the union doctors employed by the government. The real doctors were on with Glenn Beck two weeks ago horrified and complaining. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 08:20 PM (p302b) 864 May not be your cup of tea, being sci-fi, but it's hard sci-fi, not fantasy tripe... check out "Fallen Angels" by Pournelle, Flynn and Niven. Takes place as an advancing ice age creeps down North America... and the government is populated by not merely bureaucratic thugs but even new age types. There is a cabinet post that specializes in "alternative science." It's hilariously creepy, and prescient. Posted by: George Orwell at November 07, 2009 08:16 PM (AZGON) The best Pournelle/Niven collaboration in my opinion was FootFall. A truly epic novel. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 08:20 PM (+FzLa) 865 Limp Boner kept his job after the debacles of 2006 and 2008. That says everything I need to know about the worthless cocksuckers in the GOP. Posted by: TexasJew at November 07, 2009 08:20 PM (SjlJR) 866 What did Nero play as Rome burned? Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 08:21 PM (UaSIe) 867 "862 Tweet Burgundy Guy Friend? He likes her that's why.... Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:20 PM (UJIeT)" That was you???? Well you succeeded beautifully, she liked you and ave you her real cell number and is seeing you next weekend...good job...ugh.... Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 08:22 PM (p302b) 868 Hey Dirk! I'm as good as I can be watching this shit show. How are you? Eh, trying not to get too emotionally invested in this Pelosicare monstrosity. I suspect the Republicans will do something stupid and snatch overwhelming defeat from the jaws of a minor tactical setback. This website is slow as hell. I feel like I'm blogging on quaaludes. Posted by: Dirk Diggler at November 07, 2009 08:23 PM (4xBG1) 869 Guy Friend? He likes her that's why.... I think our lines are crossed. Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses at November 07, 2009 08:23 PM (XiLyG) 870 The best Pournelle/Niven collaboration in my opinion was FootFall. A truly epic novel. Posted by: Blazer Indeed, but it's tied with Lucifer's Hammer. Posted by: eman at November 07, 2009 08:23 PM (03TtP) 871 That was you???? cock blocker!!! Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses at November 07, 2009 08:24 PM (XiLyG) 872 That was you???? Well you succeeded beautifully, she liked you and ave you her real cell number and is seeing you next weekend...good job...ugh.... Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 08:22 PM (p302b) Um. I don't have the right equipment to cock block. I did have a guy friend who used to do it to potential suitors, though. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:24 PM (UJIeT) 873 SUNNY THOUGHTS FROM ARNOLD KLING: �Everything the Fed has been doing over the past fifteen months makes sense if you think of their goal as transferring wealth from taxpayers to banks. If you try to explain it as an attempt to implement an expansionary monetary policy, you won�t even get past my high school students.� Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 08:25 PM (UaSIe) 874 What did Nero play as Rome burned? Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 08:21 PM (UaSIe) "Burnin' Down The House" Lets just hope somebody chains the doors shut if that ever happens. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 08:25 PM (+FzLa) 875 Bill Tierney. My dink congressman. We don't all talk like that. I promise. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:25 PM (UJIeT) 876 WTF is a donut hole? Seriously? Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 08:26 PM (EL+OC) 877 Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:24 PM (UJIeT) Haven't we all had one of those? Thw well meaning guy friend who has something to say to and about every guy that talks to you. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 08:26 PM (p302b) 878 Newsflash to Tierney. Double breasted jackets went out with the Clinton administration. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:26 PM (UJIeT) 879 Cantor just twittered the Dem "no" count is up to 35. Come on. 6 more to go. Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 07, 2009 08:26 PM (cxGtL) 880 Haven't we all had one of those? Thw well meaning guy friend who has something to say to and about every guy that talks to you. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 08:26 PM (p302b) Yes. We don't talk anymore because of his attempts to CB the guy who I just happened to marry in September. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:27 PM (UJIeT) 881 Where the hell do these Dems find the const., small business, doctors that are supposedly for this KillBill? Posted by: momma at November 07, 2009 08:28 PM (penCf) 882 Indeed, but it's tied with Lucifer's Hammer. Posted by: eman at November 07, 2009 08:23 PM (03TtP) Arthur C. Clark's "Hammer Of God" wasn't bad either. I'll have to check out "Lucifers Hammer", haven't gotten around to reading it, buts its been on my to-do list like forever. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 08:29 PM (+FzLa) 883 Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:27 PM (UJIeT) Oh how nice congratulations!!!!! You are a newlywed ? Oh I wish you the best life ever. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 08:29 PM (p302b) 884 @GOPWhip Updated Count: 35 House Dems now oppose Pelosi�s trillion dollar plus #healthcare overhaul Posted by: sybilll at November 07, 2009 08:30 PM (x6rHq) 885 Yes, congratulations, loppyd! Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 08:30 PM (9Wv2j) 886 What is a donut hole? Seriously? Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 08:30 PM (UaSIe) 887 "881 Where the hell do these Dems find the const., small business, doctors that are supposedly for this KillBill? Posted by: momma at November 07, 2009 08:28 PM (penCf)" momma, (it's formerly muffy) good to see you....they find them in their imagination. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 08:31 PM (p302b) 888 Pence reading a letter from his cousin who has cancer urging him (Pence) not to give up the fight against this bill. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:31 PM (UJIeT) 889 Medicare, Part D, You need 12 months of pills, we'll buy 10 and a 1/2 Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 08:32 PM (UaSIe) 890 curious and peaches Thank you both! I'm still walking on air.... Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:32 PM (UJIeT) 891 Okay, is there anything in the dem bill that says employers can't just drop their plans and dump their workers into the government plan? Because this 'if you like it you can keep it' mantra is pissing me off. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 08:33 PM (Ei3oZ) 892 WTF is a donut hole? Seriously? Mr. Pissed, if you have to ask, you are obviously one of them rich types who hate everything. Donut holes are where all the good stuff sneaks away from the poor, the sick, the shiftless. Seems to me like if they just cut down on donuts, they'd be in a far better situation. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 08:33 PM (9Wv2j) 893 The Mote in God's Eye Posted by: MDr at November 07, 2009 08:33 PM (ucq49) 894 For those without hope: Miracles do happen! The buckeyes beat Penn State with Pryor in the game. PS - Mike Pence just kicked ass. Posted by: momma at November 07, 2009 08:34 PM (penCf) 895 Pence's letter fell on deaf ears. sadly. Posted by: Dave C at November 07, 2009 08:34 PM (qmecx) 896 tdpwells From what I have read and heard, no. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:34 PM (UJIeT) 897 Congrats loppy. Your hubby is a lucky man to have married a gal with her head screwed on straight such as you. Thats a rare quality these days, with men and women. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 08:35 PM (+FzLa) 898 Posted by: momma at November 07, 2009 08:14 PM (penCf) Which way is it facing? Posted by: CoolCzech at November 07, 2009 08:35 PM (QECjC) 899 PS - Mike Pence just kicked ass. Posted by: momma at November 07, 2009 08:34 PM (penCf) You just took the words out of my mouth. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:35 PM (UJIeT) 900 I think we only need 40 or is my math off or did we lose an R? Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 07, 2009 08:35 PM (HAdov) 901 From what I have read and heard, no. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:34 PM (UJIeT) Me, too, but having a hard time finding verbage in the bill to back it up. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 08:36 PM (Ei3oZ) 902 Thad! Posted by: Dave C at November 07, 2009 08:36 PM (qmecx) 903 891 Employers will insist that they're dropping coverage for your own good, to save you from paying onerous taxes on the cadillac plans. YOU WILL NOT SEE THEIR ~$8K SAVINGS ON YOUR PAYCHECK Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 08:37 PM (UaSIe) 904 Thaddeus McCotter can write a speech like nobody's business! Posted by: Less at November 07, 2009 08:37 PM (PGXeZ) 905 Me, too, but having a hard time finding verbage in the bill to back it up. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 08:36 PM (Ei3oZ) You'll go blind trying to find it. Let me look through what I have. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:37 PM (UJIeT) 906 can we please convince McCotter to run in 2012? Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 08:37 PM (dwwPD) 907 When ever I see Pelosi, I always picture Harry Reid's Face between her legs... Posted by: momma at November 07, 2009 08:14 PM (penCf) Which way is it facing? Posted by: CoolCzech at November 07, 2009 08:37 PM (QECjC) 908 "891 Okay, is there anything in the dem bill that says employers can't just drop their plans and dump their workers into the government plan? Because this 'if you like it you can keep it' mantra is pissing me off. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 08:33 PM (Ei3oZ)" Sadly, they don't have to put anything in the bill. Because of the costs of doing business it will happen automatically and naturally. The guys on the finance blogs ahve written extensively about how this natural tendency for employers to want to pay less will make employers drop their employees insurance coverage and allow them to buy their own insurance in the new government insurance company. You'll have no choice really cause it will cease being a perk. (and they say those dems aren't in the pocket of big business) Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 08:37 PM (p302b) 909 Thad's really waxing poetic here. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 08:38 PM (9Wv2j) 910 Thad! Well done. Posted by: Shannon at November 07, 2009 08:39 PM (niZOC) 911 Wasn't Medicare Part D pretty much written by the Democrats and signed by W. in a sign of bipartisanship? Posted by: Dave C at November 07, 2009 08:39 PM (qmecx) 912 I love me some Thad! And, don't we have the issue that a Dem House member from TX defected to GOP just yesterday? Hopson, maybe? Posted by: sybilll at November 07, 2009 08:40 PM (x6rHq) 913 stupid Katrina analogy.....when are they going to STFU about that? Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:41 PM (UJIeT) 914 god, these guys are rank amateurs compared to Thad. OMG, did this doofus just compare opposition to the pelosi plan to hurricane katrina? what... the... fuck. Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 08:41 PM (dwwPD) 915 muffy - why the name change? Posted by: momma at November 07, 2009 08:41 PM (penCf) 916 Who is this asshat? Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:41 PM (UJIeT) 917 Sadly in their twisted logic they think they will be helping small business stay alive by forcing everyone into the public plan. Problem, will there be any small business left by then? Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 08:41 PM (p302b) 918 "When ever I see Pelosi, I always picture Harry Reid's Face between her legs..." Thank you. That image has just ruined cunnilingus for me forever. Posted by: Dirk Diggler at November 07, 2009 08:42 PM (4xBG1) 919 What we have here is a failure to communicate! Best line of the night. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:42 PM (UJIeT) 920 "915 muffy - why the name change? Posted by: momma at November 07, 2009 08:41 PM (penCf)" It was coloring people's perceptions of me I think. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 08:42 PM (p302b) 921 Well I know there's that supposed penalty (portion of payroll) that they'd have to pay if they don't provide coverage, but if the penalty is still cheaper than what they pay for my portion of insurance, then there's still no incentive for them to keep insurance and there goes my choice. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 08:42 PM (Ei3oZ) 922 Mandate = fines and fees. Posted by: Dave C at November 07, 2009 08:42 PM (qmecx) 923 >> but her friend didn't like me and tried to cock-block me Did you smile? That should have worked. Posted by: Dave in Texas at November 07, 2009 08:43 PM (Wh0W+) 924 Which way is it facing? Posted by: CoolCzech at November 07, 2009 08:35 PM (QECjC) up? Posted by: momma at November 07, 2009 08:43 PM (penCf) 925 It will be 355 million Americans if Obama keeps marching towards Cloward-Pivens. He wants us all on the dole Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 08:43 PM (UaSIe) 926 McCotter just rawks. Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 08:43 PM (AnTyA) 927 What is a donut hole? Seriously? Gracias. We don't receive regular information up here at the compound. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 08:43 PM (EL+OC) 928 momma, we just call her 'george' now and make monkey jokes lesson: sometimes it's best to stick with what you got Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses at November 07, 2009 08:44 PM (XiLyG) 929 Sheeeeet, you blokes are still here? Wake me when the zombies start attacking, I'm gonna go crack one off to tranny porn. Posted by: Max Power at November 07, 2009 08:44 PM (q177U) 930 curious I have a bumper sticker that says DON'T BLAME ME I VOTED FOR MUFFY. Awhile back I was going to offer it to you.... Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:44 PM (UJIeT) 931 From the WSJ today: Sec. 202, p.91-92, of the bill requires you to enroll in a "qualified plan". If you get your insurance at work, your employer will have a "grace period" to switch you to a qualified plan designed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services. NO, YOU WILL NOT GET TO KEEP THE INSURANCE YOU HAVE. Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 07, 2009 08:44 PM (DIYmd) 932 From the WSJ today: Sec. 202, p.91-92, of the bill requires you to enroll in a "qualified plan". If you get your insurance at work, your employer will have a "grace period" to switch you to a qualified plan designed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services. NO, YOU WILL NOT GET TO KEEP THE INSURANCE YOU HAVE. Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 07, 2009 08:44 PM (DIYmd) Thank you! Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:46 PM (UJIeT) 933 "921 Well I know there's that supposed penalty (portion of payroll) that they'd have to pay if they don't provide coverage, but if the penalty is still cheaper than what they pay for my portion of insurance, then there's still no incentive for them to keep insurance and there goes my choice. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 08:42 PM (Ei3oZ)" Haven't read the bill but what I'm reading and hearing is that they can give you some money to buy the public insurance and they just have to prove that every employee has insurance. Nuance... Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 08:46 PM (p302b) 934 Vote YES on the Vote BUYING Plan Posted by: Rangel at November 07, 2009 08:46 PM (UaSIe) 935 ""When ever I see Pelosi, I always picture Harry Reid's Face between her legs..." Thank you. That image has just ruined cunnilingus for me forever." Shit, it soured me on dysentery... Posted by: Unmarried 53-year-old man at November 07, 2009 08:47 PM (pEXyx) 936 Telling these bold-face lises that have been refuted by the CBO makes my blood boil. Posted by: sybilll at November 07, 2009 08:48 PM (x6rHq) 937 Tonight, I'm going to dream about repeatedly punching Pete Stark's face into a bloody pulp. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 08:48 PM (EL+OC) 938 W. and the congressional Republicans really shot themselves in the foot the last six years when the "R"s were in power.. When they talk about fiscal responsibility now, they don't really have much of a record to back it up.. (with few exceptions..) Posted by: Dave C at November 07, 2009 08:48 PM (qmecx) 939 Mr. Pissed, de nada. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 08:48 PM (UaSIe) 940 What we have here is a failure to communicate! Best line of the night. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 08:42 PM (UJIeT) "Still shakin' boss" Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 08:48 PM (+FzLa) 941 Is Brown's toupee on crooked? Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 08:49 PM (UaSIe) 942 Everytime someone says "donut hole" Barney Frank gets a double hard on. Posted by: Kyle Canyon at November 07, 2009 08:49 PM (Oxen1) 943 I think you have to think like someone with a legal education. Everything is not as it seems, you can't assume anything. They count on you assuming. They count on you not really believing what you are reading and seeing and they count on you making excuses and defining things in accordance with how you want them to be and not how they really are. When you read it you think "how will it affect me". when they read it and write it they think "will it stand up to a Supreme Court challenge". it's actually frightening the more I realize it. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 08:49 PM (p302b) 944 another katrina reference. these people have no shame. Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 08:51 PM (dwwPD) 945 and now we're getting a guy talking in a mocking voice. awesome. Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 08:51 PM (dwwPD) 946 Were's that fucking meteor when we need it? Tonight, please... Posted by: Dave C at November 07, 2009 08:51 PM (qmecx) 947 Everytime someone says "donut", Bwany wishes that he hadn't pulled all of his teeth for love. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 08:51 PM (UaSIe) 948 Why do we need the Stupak amendment anyhoo? Remember when Baracky said that abortion funding in the bill was a whacky wingnut lie? Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 08:52 PM (AnTyA) 949 Lloyd The Dog, Ruler of GerryMander, and my current master, speaks. what a piece of shit this creature is. Posted by: Artruen at November 07, 2009 08:53 PM (L+dBi) 950 I swear I hope Achmedinijad is taking requests on where to target his first batch of ICBM's, cause I gotta a good fuckin' idea where I'd like to see one placed. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 08:53 PM (+FzLa) 951 946 Were's that fucking meteor when we need it? Tonight, please... Where's Unclefacts when ya need him? Posted by: beedubya at November 07, 2009 08:53 PM (AnTyA) 952 and, can white, bitter clingers riot? is it allowed? Posted by: Artruen at November 07, 2009 08:54 PM (L+dBi) 953 944 - That old fool McDermott is my district's rep. And no, he has no shame at all. Posted by: Shannon at November 07, 2009 08:54 PM (niZOC) 954 "W. and the congressional Republicans really shot themselves in the foot the last six years when the "R"s were in power." The only saving grace is that Obama has spent so much that the Republicans almost look like thrifty savers in comparison, but yes they have no credibility, but Obama threw them a bone and they can point to how the government spending has ballooned since Obama took office. Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 07, 2009 08:54 PM (HAdov) 955 Good grief... how can anyone stand for these lies w/o throwing chairs and such. Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 07, 2009 08:55 PM (MCHyX) 956 From the WSJ today: Sec. 202, p.91-92, of the bill requires you to enroll in a "qualified plan". If you get your insurance at work, your employer will have a "grace period" to switch you to a qualified plan designed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services. MOTHER FUCKING FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCK!!! FUCKING FUCK FUCKING FUCK!! Posted by: Max Power at November 07, 2009 08:55 PM (q177U) 957 I wish a Pub would mention that ObamaCare still leaves 10/20 million uninsured. I also wish they'd mention that it ends S-CHIP. Those are both points that could sway blue dogs (yeah I know) Posted by: momma at November 07, 2009 08:55 PM (penCf) 958 I can't take the brazen dishonesty of these Democratic troglodytes anymore. I'm off to smoke a cigar and sip some Brandy. Later folks. Posted by: Dirk Diggler at November 07, 2009 08:56 PM (4xBG1) 959 I love all the attacks on those evil "republicans." That kind attack usually means you've lost an argument and are out of ideas. Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 08:56 PM (dwwPD) 960 Holey shit...Its Billy Mays reincarnated!!! Posted by: momma at November 07, 2009 08:56 PM (penCf) 961 Good bye, USA. It was nice to know ya... Posted by: TexasJew at November 07, 2009 08:56 PM (SjlJR) 962 Bwany has heavily invested in this company; Plexus Biomedical. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 08:56 PM (UaSIe) 963 Good grief... how can anyone stand for these lies w/o throwing chairs and such. Grain alcohol. Try it, you'll like it. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 08:57 PM (EL+OC) 964 holey - holy actually my shit is sometimes holey so i guess either would work. Posted by: momma at November 07, 2009 08:57 PM (penCf) 965 I can't take the brazen dishonesty of these Democratic troglodytes anymore. I'm off to smoke a cigar and sip some Brandy. Later folks. Posted by: Dirk Diggler at November 07, 2009 08:56 PM (4xBG1) Enjoy. Both of those creature comforts are soon to be outlawed under Commie Care for sure. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 08:57 PM (+FzLa) 966 Blunt laying the smack down. Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 08:58 PM (dwwPD) 967 I'd like to see something like this tonight. http://tinyurl.com/lzms5r Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 09:00 PM (UJIeT) 968 I wish a Pub would mention that ObamaCare still leaves 10/20 million uninsured. I also wish they'd mention that it ends S-CHIP. Those are both points that could sway blue dogs (yeah I know) Posted by: momma at November 07, 2009 08:55 PM (penCf) Someone must have just tweeted this to Roy Blunt cuz he just mentioned both . . . Posted by: momma at November 07, 2009 09:00 PM (penCf) 969 I should have been hearing many hours of righteous indigination at this perfidy. Too little, too late. Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 09:00 PM (UaSIe) 970 Is it just me or does anyone's spine start to crawl when Charlie Wrangle starts to speak? one more cockholster for life, due to his district.. Posted by: Dave C at November 07, 2009 09:00 PM (qmecx) 971 967 Psyche! Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2009 09:01 PM (UaSIe) 972 So this is how a nation ends... Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 07, 2009 09:01 PM (MCHyX) 973 Is it just me or does anyone's spine start to crawl when Charlie Wrangle starts to speak? The little blowjobs he gives each blatherer in his intro is driving me nuts. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 09:02 PM (9Wv2j) 974 I'M GETTING TIRED OF THESE MUTHAFUGGIN SNAKES IN THIS MUTHAFUGGIN CONGRESS !!!! Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 09:03 PM (+FzLa) 975 Is it just me or does anyone's spine start to crawl when Charlie Wrangle starts to speak? That crook should be in Leavenworth. Now he's lecturing the R's. What a disgrace. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 09:04 PM (EL+OC) 976 Thanks, Guy. See, I've got acquaintances who are so far to the left that if the earth were flat, they'd be floating in space by now. I can formulate their replies to what I'd say, and maybe I'm fruitlessly looking for that one thing that will make them stop and think for a second... The "qualified plan" argument, they'll say then your employer should do a good job to find a suitable plan. Then continue to argue that the government plan would be superior to any half-ass plan that, say, a small business could afford so I should be grateful anyway. This is when I realize that you really can't argue with them at all. It's just...so pointless. We're on such different levels. Freedom is anathema to their ideals, while at the same time decrying the 'tactics' of things like the Patriot Act. The mind, it boggles. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 09:04 PM (Ei3oZ) 977 Nostrils! Posted by: Dave C at November 07, 2009 09:04 PM (qmecx) 978 If they put in an Amendment that every Congressman who voted for this crappy legislation would be shot in the back of the head in the subbasement of Lubyanka Prison a la Beria, it would certainly get my support. After all, better them than us... Posted by: TexasJew at November 07, 2009 09:04 PM (SjlJR) 979 someone just tweeted that there is one repub who will vote Aye. LA Joseph Cao. Posted by: Windsor at November 07, 2009 09:04 PM (5+sh2) 980 Nostrildamas, in the flesh... Posted by: Lone Marauder at November 07, 2009 09:04 PM (p1iaB) 981 Medicare is a success, Rangel? Really, you mindless fuck? $60 billion in fraud per year? Success? Posted by: sybilll at November 07, 2009 09:05 PM (x6rHq) 982 More from the WSJ: Sec. 59b - p 297-299 - says that when you file your taxes, you must include proof that you are in a qualified plan. If not, you will be fined thousands of dollars. Illegal immigrants are exempt from this requirement. (My emphasis) Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 07, 2009 09:05 PM (DIYmd) 983 That crook should be in Leavenworth. Now he's lecturing the R's. What a disgrace. Aw, c'mon, he ain't such a bad fellow. Posted by: Geithner at November 07, 2009 09:05 PM (UaSIe) 984 974 I'M GETTING TIRED OF THESE MUTHAFUGGIN SNAKES IN THIS MUTHAFUGGIN CONGRESS !!!! Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 09:03 PM (+FzLa) What Blazer said! Posted by: Less at November 07, 2009 09:06 PM (PGXeZ) 985 @981: It depends how you define "success". If your aim is to create a system where graft and corruption is the norm, then yes...it's a "success". Posted by: Lone Marauder at November 07, 2009 09:06 PM (p1iaB) 986 Waxman? Where is the MUTE button for my eyes? Posted by: Less at November 07, 2009 09:06 PM (PGXeZ) 987 Washington has become a malignant tumor feeding on our blood. It has sucked all the vitality out of the states and will continue growing until it kills us all. Starve it, radiate it and cut it out for good! Posted by: Kyle Canyon at November 07, 2009 09:07 PM (Oxen1) 988 Ed Maaaahkey. His last job in the dreaded private sector? Ice cream truck driver. I shit you not. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 09:07 PM (UJIeT) 989 someone just tweeted that there is one repub who will vote Aye. LA Joseph Cao. Posted by: Windsor at November 07, 2009 09:04 PM (5+sh2) Holy crap, wasn't he supposed to be like the Vietnamese Ronald Reagan or something? It never ends does it ? Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 09:07 PM (+FzLa) 990 I'm late to the party but I'm impressed with two things specifically: The ability of the Republicans to continually bend over when it comes to government encroaching upon liberty. The lack of any spam posts at 1K posts. BTW, you morons encourage me at this point; I understand God is sovereign, but next to that thought, knowing there are folks who will not lie down and take this is very heart warming. Gandalf to Grim: (Me to politicians on both sides of the aisle) Be silent! Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth. I did not pass through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a witless worm. Posted by: GW McLintock at November 07, 2009 09:07 PM (zFh1t) 991 Who is this 'heart of stone' douche bag? I missed his name.. Posted by: Dave C at November 07, 2009 09:07 PM (qmecx) 992 $60 billion in fraud per year? The only reason they can't fix that is the obstructionist GOP won't pass a health care bill. We all know that. / Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 09:07 PM (9Wv2j) 993 "You're on your own"... And if the government denies a procedure because it's too expensive... You're on your own fucked. Posted by: Lone Marauder at November 07, 2009 09:08 PM (p1iaB) 994 who writes this stuff... "the republicans suffer from their own preconditioning condition... a heart of stone!" ... Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 09:08 PM (dwwPD) 995 Douchenozzle alert. Lookin at you, Markey. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 09:08 PM (Ei3oZ) 996 1000! Posted by: Methos at November 07, 2009 09:09 PM (IoxPW) 997 D'oh! Posted by: Methos at November 07, 2009 09:10 PM (IoxPW) 998 Ed Maaaahkey. His last job in the dreaded private sector? Ice cream truck driver. I shit you not. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 09:07 PM (UJIeT) No way! Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 09:10 PM (9Wv2j) 999 I've had way too many liberals/democrats smugly say to me that I can keep my Cadillac plan and that I am being selfish cause all they want to do is cover the poor and those less fortunate. They really do believe this. They really think they will keep their paln and maybe they will . Maybe only the conservative and republicans and out of favor independents will be forced onto the plan with the poor and indigent. who eally knows anymore. BTW,I always begin with "my insurance is not a cadillac plan, my premiums are too high, my co pay is too high and I pay way more for mediation than I should" and then I go on but they still say "you are selfish as you do not want ot answer the needs of the poorest among us". They use the same rationale for the abortion discussion too. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 09:10 PM (p302b) 1000 Argh! Posted by: Methos at November 07, 2009 09:10 PM (IoxPW) 1001 1000th !! Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 09:10 PM (+FzLa) 1002 K spot? Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 09:10 PM (UJIeT) 1003 These guys are nuts, anyone who votes for this bill needs to be fired. http://tinyurl.com/ykhk3k3 Posted by: ChicagoBlood at November 07, 2009 09:10 PM (pjuTn) 1004 Whew, okay, carry on. Posted by: Methos at November 07, 2009 09:11 PM (IoxPW) 1005 " someone just tweeted that there is one repub who will vote Aye. LA Joseph Cao." Hey but I love having these people in the party cause they vote with us more often than not. Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 07, 2009 09:11 PM (HAdov) 1006 fook Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 09:11 PM (UJIeT) 1007 I wish a Pub would mention that ObamaCare still leaves 10/20 million uninsured. We'll need to build more prisons. Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 07, 2009 09:11 PM (OkT2m) 1008 Congratulations Methos! Third time's the charm! Posted by: Less at November 07, 2009 09:11 PM (PGXeZ) 1009 Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 09:10 PM (p302b) I feel ya. Right in like with what Markey just said about us who have a 'heart of stone' - they really do stick to their narrative, don't they? Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 09:11 PM (Ei3oZ) 1010 1001 1000th !! Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 09:10 PM (+FzLa) Na, na na, na na na Posted by: Methos at November 07, 2009 09:12 PM (IoxPW) 1011 Repeal. REPEAL. REPEAL. Posted by: arhooley at November 07, 2009 09:12 PM (jwoys) 1012 The federal government has changed from a benign tumor to a malignant growth that will kill us all. Cut off the blood flow, radiate it and remove it. Hopefully the weakened states will recover their former vitality. Posted by: Kyle Canyon at November 07, 2009 09:12 PM (Oxen1) 1013 I am being selfish cause all they want to do is cover the poor and those less fortunate. I tell them no one is stopping them from writing a fucking check. Eventually they admit they don't give a shit about the poor, they just want to tear down everyone who has it better than they do. Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 07, 2009 09:12 PM (OkT2m) 1014 There is going to be a great need for freeeeee Health Care ... ... when the shooting starts. Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 07, 2009 09:13 PM (MCHyX) 1015 Imagine watching Waxman on an IMAX screen...you'd think you walked into a remake of The Black Hole, except there are two this time... Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 09:13 PM (Ei3oZ) 1016 Repeal. REPEAL. REPEAL. Never happen. Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 07, 2009 09:13 PM (OkT2m) 1017 Weiner the Weiner now on. Posted by: Miss Marple at November 07, 2009 09:14 PM (UQado) 1018 Social Security saved seniors from poverty? really? dude.. Posted by: Dave C at November 07, 2009 09:14 PM (qmecx) 1019 So, anyone think we hit 1400 before the night is done? Posted by: Methos at November 07, 2009 09:14 PM (IoxPW) 1020 Getting over a thousand posts on a blog entry is waaaaay over rated. Thats so 2007ish. I bid you a fine adieu and fart in your general direction. p.s. please by my jeans Posted by: Charles Johnson at November 07, 2009 09:15 PM (+FzLa) 1021 Weiner please stop being a dick. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 09:15 PM (Ei3oZ) 1022 So, anyone think we hit 1400 before the night is done? Posted by: Methos at November 07, 2009 09:14 PM (IoxPW) We have 30-minutes before the ONT is up. Good luck. Posted by: Boeing at November 07, 2009 09:15 PM (YX6i/) 1023 are these people really serious? verbal. masturbation. nothing more, nothing less. Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 09:15 PM (dwwPD) 1024 Weiner. Dude, that health care plan you are holding up has only private plans. If you like the public option so much then sign up for it. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 09:16 PM (UJIeT) 1025 I think I'm going to renounce my US citizenship--gain my citizenship from Mexico--then illegally immigrate back to the US and gain free healthcare, free housing, and a freedom from the IRS. Sounds like the Dem's plan might work out for me afterall. Posted by: tkh at November 07, 2009 09:16 PM (dvcjD) 1026 Repeal. REPEAL. REPEAL. Never happen. Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 07, 2009 09:13 PM (OkT2m) --------------------------- You have no faith in President Sarah Palin? Posted by: arhooley at November 07, 2009 09:17 PM (jwoys) 1027 Is it wrong that I think Eric Cantor is cute? Posted by: Less at November 07, 2009 09:17 PM (PGXeZ) 1028 Good grief, I don't know how much more Democrat idiocy and disingenuousness I can take tonight. Posted by: Ed at November 07, 2009 09:18 PM (E0yE8) 1029 1027 Is it wrong that I think Eric Cantor is cute? Posted by: Less at November 07, 2009 09:17 PM (PGXeZ) I'd do him. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 09:18 PM (Ei3oZ) 1030 Has anyone else been impressed with Cantor? From what I've seen, he's been more of a 'meh'.. Posted by: Dave C at November 07, 2009 09:18 PM (qmecx) 1031 I think I'm going to renounce my US citizenship--gain my citizenship from Mexico--then illegally immigrate back to the US and gain free healthcare, free housing, and a freedom from the IRS. Sounds like the Dem's plan might work out for me afterall. Posted by: tkh at November 07, 2009 09:16 PM (dvcjD) Fuck, after free healthcare and amnesty is passed, Mexico will probably look like a ghost town. Ripe for our taking. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 09:18 PM (+FzLa) 1032 beside how cute Cantor is, I mean? Posted by: Dave C at November 07, 2009 09:19 PM (qmecx) 1033 Fuck, after free healthcare and amnesty is passed, Mexico will probably look like a ghost town. Ripe for our taking. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 09:18 PM (+FzLa) My old friend in Toronto said they all called us Upper Mexicans. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 09:20 PM (Ei3oZ) 1034 You have no faith in President Sarah Palin? By 2017 it's too late, libs will scream about "stealing medicine from babies" if anyone tries to introduce it in Congress. (Not to mention I have no faith the "overturn the 22nd Amendment" crowd will fail.) Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 07, 2009 09:20 PM (OkT2m) 1035 2010. bitches! Posted by: eman at November 07, 2009 09:21 PM (03TtP) 1036 Yeah, I'm not listening to him, just watching. It's Saturday night, I'm a moronette at home watching CSPAN and eating Blue Bell Ice Cream. Looking at Cantor is as good as it gets. Posted by: Less at November 07, 2009 09:21 PM (PGXeZ) 1037 They really think they will keep their paln and maybe they will . Even More WSJ: Sec. 303 - p. 167 -168 - makes it clear that, although the "qualified plan" is not yet designed, it will be of the one size fits all variety. The bill claims to offer choice - basic, enhanced and premium levels - but the benefits are the same. Only the co-pays and deductibles differ. Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 07, 2009 09:21 PM (DIYmd) 1038 Has anyone else been impressed with Cantor? From what I've seen, he's been more of a 'meh'.. Posted by: Dave C at November 07, 2009 09:18 PM (qmecx) Cantor lost me when he was traveling around with that douchbag dhimmi Bobby Scott a few months ago at the healthcare meetings trying to be all bi-partisan and shit. The jury is still out. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 09:21 PM (+FzLa) 1039 Has anyone else been impressed with Cantor? From what I've seen, he's been more of a 'meh'.. Cool-it-Rush Cantor? He can lap Nacny Pelsosi's reid as far as I'm concerned. Had high hopes for the boy too. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 09:21 PM (EL+OC) 1040 I'm sure the Iranian's are working on our "radiation" cure for our cancerous government. Posted by: CDR M at November 07, 2009 09:22 PM (cvmTR) 1041 If this passes 9/12 will look like a family reunion. Would it be legal for people to openly carry unloaded firearms? Serious question. Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 07, 2009 09:22 PM (Qt4Y7) 1042 Damn.. I think she about had a stroke during that last speech Posted by: Dave C at November 07, 2009 09:23 PM (qmecx) 1043 JFC GOHMERT THAT WAS WEAK AS SHIT GOTDAMN Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 09:24 PM (Ei3oZ) 1044 By 2017 it's too late ----------------- Heather, I know this negative shit is protective and all, but we have to stop it. 2017? How about 2013? How about you and me marching and reversing this thing come hell or high water? If it passes, America is gone anyway. A war won't make a difference. Posted by: arhooley at November 07, 2009 09:24 PM (jwoys) 1045 What is he asking for? Copy of what? Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 09:24 PM (UJIeT) 1046 How many Placeholders are in the bill? but then.. who knows? Posted by: Dave C at November 07, 2009 09:24 PM (qmecx) 1047 1041, not anymore, it'll be deemed a health risk! Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 07, 2009 09:24 PM (dwwPD) 1048 I wouldn't know a vaginer if I sawr one. I'm not a gweat wadies man. I only smoke poles. Posted by: Bawney Fwank at November 07, 2009 09:25 PM (AnTyA) 1049 The Chart! Right on.. Posted by: Dave C at November 07, 2009 09:26 PM (qmecx) 1050 @1027 not wrong, he's kinda smokin' hot IMO Posted by: d at November 07, 2009 09:26 PM (uTknY) 1051 If this passes 9/12 will look like a family reunion. Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 07:37 PM (YX6i/) -------------------- That's what I'm looking for. Posted by: arhooley at November 07, 2009 09:26 PM (jwoys) 1052 The chart is back! Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 09:26 PM (UJIeT) 1053 2013? None of this turd sandwich hurts low-information voters until after the election, and the ones who are already living off the the government won't notice a difference in their lives at all. Although I suppose if they're going to throw me in prison anyway, I should at least deserve it. Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 07, 2009 09:27 PM (OkT2m) 1054 Rage, Rage against the dying of the light! Posted by: Less at November 07, 2009 09:27 PM (PGXeZ) 1055 @1027 not wrong, he's kinda smokin' hot IMO Posted by: d at November 07, 2009 09:26 PM (uTknY) Pence is more my type. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 09:27 PM (UJIeT) 1056 Hey everybody! I lurk here a lot, and usually LMAO, but tonight I am drinking chocolate martinis like it may be the last drink I ever have...and I seldom drink. I sent my congresscritters an e-mail letting them know that if they vote for this monstrosity, I will sell everything I own, except for the bare essentials, build a hut deep in the woods, and they'll NEVER GET ANOTHER DAMN DIME FROM ME...NOT TAXES...NOTHING! I WILL CRAWL THROUGH BROKEN GLASS 'NEKKID', IF NEED BE, TO VOTE EVERY ONE OF THEM OUT OF OFFICE! Good Lord above, I have never seen such vile human beings in my life. None of them would know the truth, if it bored through their ears right into their mush filled shit for brains! Posted by: Steph at November 07, 2009 09:28 PM (/CtkQ) 1057 1056 - Steph, welcome and you should lurk less. Bravo! Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 07, 2009 09:30 PM (DIYmd) 1058 We have rage against the machine. This is the response we are given. Shit will turn out bad anyway I can see it. Posted by: 4ican at November 07, 2009 09:30 PM (dTGpu) 1059 Good Lord above, I have never seen such vile human beings in my life. None of them would know the truth, if it bored through their ears right into their mush filled shit for brains! Posted by: Steph at November 07, 2009 09:28 PM (/CtkQ) By all means, Steph, feel free to comment more often. Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 09:30 PM (YX6i/) 1060 None of this turd sandwich hurts low-information voters until after the election ------------------- The'll be better informed when conservatives quit surrendering and start rioting. Posted by: arhooley at November 07, 2009 09:31 PM (jwoys) 1061 Is it wrong that I think Eric Cantor is cute? I'd hit that harder than and anvil falling on Wile E. Coyote's head. _{Too much?} Posted by: KelliD at November 07, 2009 09:31 PM (Q9Cny) 1062 IMPORTANT from Facebook: Susan Townley posted: "Patriots are in the balcony at the Capitol right now trying to stop Pelosi from passing the healthcare legislation. They are asking for citizens within driving distance to join them. Security will let anyone in that shows up. If you know anyone in the area please contact them. It's critical mass people!" Posted by: Truman North at November 07, 2009 09:31 PM (XH/G8) 1063 Way to make an entrance, Steph, welcome! Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 09:32 PM (9Wv2j) 1064 Boehner is spot on at least in this speech. Posted by: Ed at November 07, 2009 09:32 PM (E0yE8) 1065 Blazer, get your ass in gear! Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 09:32 PM (YX6i/) 1066 Pence is more my type. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 09:27 PM (UJIeT) Well if we're just gonna throw names out there, I got dibs on Rubio. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 09:32 PM (Ei3oZ) 1067 What frightens me, having had enough champagne at happy hour, is that they seem to be voting as if tomorrow doesn't matter. Wonder if they are not the least bit concerned about re election. Casue seriously, that is how they are voting as if they are union members with jobs for life. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 09:32 PM (p302b) 1068 Alrighty. Anyone know where to get tar? Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 07, 2009 09:33 PM (OkT2m) 1069 Let's all have chocolate martinis! Posted by: KelliD at November 07, 2009 09:33 PM (Q9Cny) 1070 I apologize if this is already been posted but: POLITICO reports: Hours before an expected vote on a sweeping health care bill, House Democrats believe they've secured the 218 votes they need to approve the bill, several party insiders said. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi took to the House floor about 6:30 p.m. to say, �Today we will pass the Affordable Health Care for America Act.. . .We will make history. We will also make progress for America's working families." Thirty-two Democrats have publicly declared their opposition to the bill, giving party leaders the narrowest possible margin to push the bill across the finish line. But numerous sources said Democrats believe they do have the votes after a day of intense lobbying of wavering Democrats. Posted by: Tami at November 07, 2009 09:33 PM (VuLos) 1071 Yyo, Steph! I had a similar idea. I'm thinking Wyoming. Never been there, but for some reason it seems like a place I could hang out for a few decades. Posted by: arhooley at November 07, 2009 09:33 PM (jwoys) 1072 Waxman looks more like Lon Cheney in Phantom of the Opera. Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 07, 2009 09:33 PM (Qt4Y7) 1073 as if they are union members with jobs for life. They'll be running those 108 new federal agencies. Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 07, 2009 09:33 PM (OkT2m) 1074 Well if we're just gonna throw names out there, I got dibs on Rubio. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 09:32 PM (Ei3oZ) Not fair. I was talking members of Congress. I'd fight you for Rubio. Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 09:34 PM (UJIeT) 1075 Blazer, get your ass in gear! Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 09:32 PM (YX6i/) Huh, whu ? Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 09:34 PM (+FzLa) 1076 Anyone know where to get tar? ----------------- What are we gonna do? Feathers? Broken glass? Posted by: arhooley at November 07, 2009 09:35 PM (jwoys) 1077 Kelli and Steph - bring the chocolate martinis. I've got Mint Chocolate Chip Ice Cream. We can go all fan girl over Cantor, Pence, Rubio, whoever... (BTW - Less is short for Leslie, I'm a moronette) Posted by: Less at November 07, 2009 09:35 PM (PGXeZ) 1078 I think Thaddeus McCotter is hawt hawt hawt....but I need to have a brain connection with a guy, he can't jsut be a pretty face. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 09:35 PM (p302b) 1079 Blazer, see 1062 Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 09:35 PM (YX6i/) 1080 Tami, an hour ago Cantor twitted that there are 35 dems against. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 09:35 PM (9Wv2j) 1081 (BTW - Less is short for Leslie, I'm a moronette) Posted by: Less at November 07, 2009 09:35 PM (PGXeZ) Mind if we call you "Lez"? Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 09:36 PM (YX6i/) 1082 What are we gonna do? Feathers? Broken glass? Both. And fire ants. Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 07, 2009 09:37 PM (OkT2m) 1083 What are we gonna do? Feathers? Broken glass? Posted by: arhooley at November 07, 2009 09:35 PM (jwoys) I vote honey and lots of hungry African* bees. Or how about firehoses full of beef broth and starving bears? C'mon, ya'll, we can do better than old-fashioned tar and feathers...get creative! INB4 RAAAAAACIST. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 09:37 PM (Ei3oZ) 1084 Tami, an hour ago Cantor twitted that there are 35 dems against. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 09:35 PM (9Wv2j) My bad...I read the time wrong on the politico article. I hate my eyes.... Posted by: Tami at November 07, 2009 09:37 PM (VuLos) 1085 1078 I think Thaddeus McCotter is hawt hawt hawt....but I need to have a brain connection with a guy, he can't jsut be a pretty face. Agreed. That's why on the "pundit" list I've got Mark Steyn and Chris Horner! Who's that new Congress guy - young, really hot, washboard abs? Posted by: Less at November 07, 2009 09:37 PM (PGXeZ) 1086 Well then I guess it will surprise no one to say yeah, I'd do Michelle Bachmann. Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 07, 2009 09:38 PM (DIYmd) 1087 There was a smokin' hot rep from Ohio, I think his name was Jordan? Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 09:38 PM (9Wv2j) 1088 The'll be better informed when conservatives quit surrendering and start rioting. Posted by: arhooley at November 07, 2009 09:31 PM (jwoys) That's what I'm looking for. Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 07, 2009 09:38 PM (Qt4Y7) 1089 1081 (BTW - Less is short for Leslie, I'm a moronette) Posted by: Less at November 07, 2009 09:35 PM (PGXeZ) Mind if we call you "Lez"? Just as long as you call me, stud! Posted by: Less at November 07, 2009 09:38 PM (PGXeZ) 1090 Oh, and moronettes, hands off Paul Ryan cuz he's mine. Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 07, 2009 09:38 PM (OkT2m) 1091 Dibs on Paul Ryan. Posted by: KelliD at November 07, 2009 09:38 PM (Q9Cny) 1092 I wish a Pub would mention that ObamaCare still leaves 10/20 million uninsured. ObamaCare puts those 10/20 million in prison...where they will get health care. See? Problem solved! Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 07, 2009 09:39 PM (dRlot) 1093 Blazer, see 1062 Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 09:35 PM (YX6i/) I'm too drunk to drive right now. Plus it wouldn't be a good idea for me to show up there right in such an enraged state if you know what I mean. AITYKEWIM ! Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 09:39 PM (+FzLa) 1094 Peaches, you mean Jim Jordan? 4th district? Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 09:39 PM (Ei3oZ) 1095 "1068 Alrighty. Anyone know where to get tar? Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 07, 2009 09:33 PM (OkT2m)" No, but I know where to find a bunch of skunks. Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 09:39 PM (p302b) 1096 1090 Oh, and moronettes, hands off Paul Ryan cuz he's mine. Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 07, 2009 09:38 PM (OkT2m) 1091 Dibs on Paul Ryan. Posted by: KelliD at November 07, 2009 09:38 PM (Q9Cny) LMAO! Posted by: Tami at November 07, 2009 09:40 PM (VuLos) 1097 Damn... Posted by: KelliD at November 07, 2009 09:40 PM (Q9Cny) 1098 Peaches, you mean Jim Jordan? 4th district? Yup. He spoke well, too. Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 09:41 PM (9Wv2j) 1099 So, out of bill that no one has had the time to read, the only thing that is clear is that the pro-life ammendment is a sham? Kill the bill for heaven's sake!! Posted by: Mark at November 07, 2009 09:41 PM (VNasu) 1100 Thanks guys! I know I'm "on the list" already with the crapweasels in DC. I probably won't have any choice, but to 'beat feet' once this all comes down. Believe me, I have made myself known. At first, I was fairly polite with my calls and e-mails...now, I just don't give a damn anymore. They can all kiss my lilly white ass! I will not let them make me cower, and I damn sure won't be quiet while they trample our constitution. Locked and loaded here!! Posted by: Steph at November 07, 2009 09:41 PM (/CtkQ) 1101 HeatherRadish, share? Posted by: KelliD at November 07, 2009 09:41 PM (Q9Cny) 1102 "1085 1078 I think Thaddeus McCotter is hawt hawt hawt....but I need to have a brain connection with a guy, he can't jsut be a pretty face. Agreed. That's why on the "pundit" list I've got Mark Steyn and Chris Horner! Who's that new Congress guy - young, really hot, washboard abs? Posted by: Less at November 07, 2009 09:37 PM (PGXeZ)" Why is it that I remember those abs and not the guy's name. lol Posted by: curious at November 07, 2009 09:42 PM (p302b) 1103 Nancy needed extra time to line up commitments from "think tanks" and Soros funded research centers to hire every sorry bastard that loses election over voting for this piece of shit. Pitch was like " hey, stay here,work for x, make more money, still get your vested federal pension and don't worry about the asshole voters ever again!" Posted by: Kyle Canyon at November 07, 2009 09:43 PM (Oxen1) 1104 Locked and loaded here!! Posted by: Steph at November 07, 2009 09:41 PM (/CtkQ) HeatherRadish, share? Posted by: KelliD at November 07, 2009 09:41 PM (Q9Cny) Phew - it's getting hot in here. Posted by: Editor at November 07, 2009 09:43 PM (YX6i/) 1105 1101 HeatherRadish, share? Posted by: KelliD at November 07, 2009 09:41 PM (Q9Cny) Hello, Ryan sandwich anyone? Sheesh, ya'll are such prudes. :p Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 09:43 PM (Ei3oZ) 1106 Why is it that I remember those abs and not the guy's name. lol Women are so shallow. Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 07, 2009 09:43 PM (DIYmd) 1107 Less, that's my Rep. Aaron Schock Posted by: d at November 07, 2009 09:44 PM (uTknY) 1108 It may rain on Nancy's parade in DC. Put on your rubbers. Ever been drunk in DC? Many, many times. It's the only way to stay sane there. Posted by: joncelli at November 07, 2009 09:44 PM (Ko4Av) 1109 KelliD--joint custody. laugh* Alright, I have a cocktail, let's get this farce over with so I can get some sleep. Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 07, 2009 09:44 PM (OkT2m) 1110 drool Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 07, 2009 09:45 PM (OkT2m) 1111 See you morons and moronettes at the camps. I lost a cousin to the other commie bastards and can do worse than follow in his footsteps. Posted by: NotAMolly at November 07, 2009 09:45 PM (rDWcL) 1112 I know there are some Boehner haters on here, but I can't help it - I like him. Sue me. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 09:45 PM (Ei3oZ) 1113 Casue seriously, that is how they are voting as if they are union members with jobs for life. True, but given the way the public anger is rising, there is no guarantee of how long their lives will actually be. Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 07, 2009 09:45 PM (Qt4Y7) 1114 Why is it that I remember those abs cozonkas and not the guygal's name? FYP Posted by: Doc at November 07, 2009 09:45 PM (rzJpR) 1115 1110 drool Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 07, 2009 09:45 PM (OkT2m) Oooh lala Posted by: loppyd at November 07, 2009 09:46 PM (UJIeT) 1116 I'm starting to believe that D.C. actually stands for dick cheese. Posted by: Blazer at November 07, 2009 09:46 PM (+FzLa) 1117 I know there are some Boehner haters on here, but I can't help it - I like him. Sue me He lacks a sense of sincerity IMO. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 07, 2009 09:48 PM (EL+OC) 1118 Oh God, 5 min of Dingleberry. I'm breaking for a brownie and Nutella. Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2009 09:48 PM (Ei3oZ) 1119 Oh, good. Dingle (aka Uncle Fester) is up now. Posted by: Miss Marple at November 07, 2009 09:48 PM (UQado) 1120 Y'all can have the young 'uns, I'll take Cheney. (And, no, not because of that. _{Which, frankly, scares me a little.}) Posted by: Peaches at November 07, 2009 09:48 PM (9Wv2j)