1 Saw this on the news out here yesterday. Really is a story bordering on comic book villainy, what a f*cking nutjob.

2

Is it mean that i hope he dies?

Well, after first experiencing horrific pain for an extended period?

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4 Well, if he survives, I'm sure that Obama will have a new czar position to offer him.

5

Has the noise from the left about "police brutality" started?  This bs that only children raised by single parents are going to be sociopaths is so trite.  I'm so tired of all the moral equivalency.  Oh, abused child?  Not his fault.  Funny how they never seem to mention those who are only children, raised by a single parent that do not commit vicious crimes.

The bleeding hearts and the current admin are bound to take us down.  Hate to be anything like a conspiracy nut, but it is not looking too good.  Apparently the O visited Congress and made the dems see the importanct of passing this "historic" bill.  They just long to be a part of history.  Many of them won't even be around when the history of this horror is written.

6 Heh.  And and uh and, I don't know uh that uh eruh brother, uh uh and but if uh he wants and and my help, and uh and he's uh gonna have to uh stand uh stomp uh stomp on an American uh flag and eruh apologize to the the and the world.

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8 They apprehended a suspect, who drew a gun and was shot by the police. He was in critical condition in the hospital as of Friday night.

--Crap, I thought they iced the pos.

9 The suspect is an unmarried 41 year old.  Hasan is an unmarried 39 year old.  Neither are acts of politically or religiously motivated terrorism.  Clearly, more needs to go into studying the effects of semen build up in early middle aged men.

10

Who cares about a cop killer?  We need to start imprisoning those hateful teabaggers who keep complaining about nationlized health care.

11 Clearly, the Seattle police acted stupidly.

12

I was reading that bio excerpt and thinking how some Leftard bloggers would point to jury nullification as proof this guy was a right-wing Militia nut or something, when I reached the line: "It is the moral responsibility of black jurors to emancipate some guilty black outlaws."

I guess that, unlike in the case of the census worker in Kentucky (who the FBI now believes committed suicide), there really ARE people who are motivated to murder government workers.  Only they aren't so much on the Right or motivated by the TEA Parties... they're more on the Left, motivated by revolutionary anarchism, and in the Muslim community, motivated by Islamic fundamentalism.

Bad week for the people pushing the meme that all evil springs from the Right wing of the Republican Party.  They must be feeling a bit green around the footba-- I mean, gills.

13 Yeah, he seems pretty screwed up ........

Though I have no problems with jury nullification.

14

They apprehended a suspect, who drew a gun and was shot by the police. He was in critical condition in the hospital as of Friday night.
--Crap, I thought they iced the pos.

He very nearly did.  He got the drop on the detectives, but his gun failed.  (typical detectives, and I'll bet that none were wearing armor, had a rifle...)

15 8 They apprehended a suspect, who drew a gun and was shot by the police. He was in critical condition in the hospital as of Friday night.

--Crap, I thought they iced the pos.

Posted by: logprof at November 07, 2009 12:55 PM (I3Udb)

It's Washington State, so they'll nurse him back to health, try him, sentence him to death... and then when he's in prison, he'll eat everything in sight and balloon up to 400 pounds, and then sue the State to prevent his execution on the basis that he's too sick and fat to face the hangman.  Hey, it worked for the bank robber/murderer.

16 He got the drop on the detectives, but his gun failed.

He sustained a head wound with the proximate cause of being a fucking tard.  How the hell does a gun "fail"?  Sure, one in a thousand rounds sucks, or something, but why is it that that 1000th round turns up so often in the hands of a dipshit at the precise moment he needs it most?  It doesn't. They're just that stupid.

17 It's becoming increasingly apparent police are not caring sufficient firepower. Far too many of these idiots are surviving shoot outs IMHO.

18

Don't miss the stunning color portrait of Monfort.

He looks like a cross between Julian Bond and that Barry O. guy.

 

19 His bio doesn't read like Billy Ayers', it reads more like Barry O's. Half white/half black. Attended different schools around the country. Single mom. Missing father. Lawyer wanna-be. Hell, he even looks like Barry O. Wonder if he's done any community organizing? Maybe worked for ACORN?

20 16 ~

21 Jury Nullification-- So let me get this straight. An opposite scenario of the one listed in the article could be a bunch of white jurors unlawfully convicting a black defendant cuz he's black...

seriously what the hell is in the water in WA?

22

19 His bio doesn't read like Billy Ayers', it reads more like Barry O's. Half white/half black. Attended different schools around the country. Single mom. Missing father. Lawyer wanna-be. Hell, he even looks like Barry O. Wonder if he's done any community organizing? Maybe worked for ACORN?

Q: Biggest difference to Barry O?

A: There are some records of his life, his grades, his votes, his benefactors,  ...

23 PTSD tax now!!!

24 I am getting discouraged, this is the 2nd survivor of a police shootout in almost as many days.

More range time is needed.

25 The night the officer was assassinated, I just happened to not able to sleep so I was up reading the news. My friend since grade school was on shift at the time (I had talked to him a few hours earlier) and my heart just sank. I was able to email him and he got right back to me that it wasn't him.

I really hope they got the guy. It looks like the local news is describing him as "smart, mature." Makes me want to vomit.

26 local news is describing him as "smart, mature."

The smart part was scraped off the stairwell wall.  He will probably complete his maturity rather quickly, however.

27 Note to self: When in a gunfight with a lone perp, after knock down, empty remaining rounds into perps skull.

28 >>1980-1983 Datsun<<

Umm, okay. Police officers really ought to simply shoot on sight at the heads of drivers of such cars. No one with an early-Eighties Datsun is up to any good.

Zombies drive Datsuns. Fin.

29 On a Scholarship? AA Scholarship at his age? He's getting money to further this bullshit? I wish I could home-school my kids in Engineering. Of course this asshole just sucked the cash tit for so long there won't be any money availible for real, productive disciplines for people to pursue.

30 Good thing my Datsun is a 1979...whew

31

In recent years he has been a student — first at Highline Community College in Des Moines, then at the University of Washington, where he was enrolled in a program aimed at helping minority students go on to graduate work.

 

Why do we have programs aimed at minority students?  For what purpose or reason.  What does the students race have to do with graduate work, and why do they need help?

Can some LIBTARD explain to me how this does not violate the 14th amendment to the Constitution?

32

He should have been shot for not driving a Prius in that state.

 I think the cop who used a non firing, "throw down pistol" was pretty smart.

33 more sacrifices , please....

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9 The suspect is an unmarried 41 year old.  Hasan is an unmarried 39 year old.  Neither are acts of politically or religiously motivated terrorism.  Clearly, more needs to go into studying the effects of semen build up in early middle aged men.

Seems Rep. Barney Frank should be interested in funding such a study. Jus' sayin'.

35 34

9 The suspect is an unmarried 41 year old.  Hasan is an unmarried 39 year old.  Neither are acts of politically or religiously motivated terrorism.  Clearly, more needs to go into studying the effects of semen build up in early middle aged men.

Seems Rep. Barney Frank should be interested in funding such a study. Jus' sayin'.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 07, 2009 02:08 PM (g+0JJ)

Just so long as Rep. Frank stays well away from the test subjects.  I am worried that he'd never let any man in his presence undergo a build-up of semen, if he could help it.

36 Thomas Jefferson and other of the Founders were in favor of nullification too.

Let's say the evidence is clear that a man broke some stupid and unconstitutional law, but you know that sentencing the guy to years in prison is an unjust outcome. You should vote to acquit. Otherwise, we will continue to have a legal system, not a justice system.

None of this is an endorsement of what Monfort wanted to do. People guilty of real crimes (as opposed to merely breaking some dipshit government law) should of course be convicted.

37 "Has the noise from the left about "police brutality" started?"

Police brutality is real. Try reading this every day:
http://twitter.com/InjusticeNews

38

Thomas Jefferson had sex with his slave women.   He wasn't always right.

39

We have the tendency to assign insanity as a "motive" to guys like this--and the shooter in Fort Hood, for that matter--in part, I think because we think we can fix crazy. 

Makes us feel we are in control.  Plain, f'ing evil isn't so easy to repair.

40 "Thomas Jefferson had sex with his slave women.   He wasn't always right."

Whether he was right or not depends on the arguments he made. Have you ever bothered to evaluate them?

Is it your belief that ONLY the courts (and ultimately the Supreme Court) can make a determination of what an unconstitutional law is? (Where is THAT in the Constitution?). Can't the President, the Congress, the States, and the people act to thwart that which is unconstitutional?

If the President orders confiscation of all firearms in the country to be carried out by the military, government agencies, and police, should that order be obeyed? Or should it be refused as an unconstitutional order?

41 Laura, where's that Joe Cocker translation video?

42 Don't know where the original is, but here it is on Ebaum's.

43

I went to the academy with Tim Brenton, the officer murdered by this piece of shit.  You couldn't meet a much nicer guy.

I sincerely hope his condition takes a turn for the worse.  Piece of shit.  Now they're finding bomb making material in his apartment. 

Funny how he was a complete loser, then when he started writing anti-police essays supporting "jury nullification" he "caught on fire acacemically" according to his UW professors.  I won't go so far as to say they caused this, the only person responsible here is Monfort and whoever acted with him, but those professors certainly enabled and emboldened him.

44

Funny how he was a complete loser, then when he started writing anti-police essays supporting "jury nullification" he "caught on fire acacemically" according to his UW professors. 

Funny that.  Grrrr.

45 Kos and Charles Johnson had no comment on this incident.

46 This is OT but relevant:  I didn't get out yesterday so I don't know if I missed it but today the only places where I've seen the flag at half-staff were infront of businesses.  Our local government had them all at full staff - even the flag on the square where the Veteren's Day parade passes.  Has anyone else seen this also?

47
> Thanks to Zhenjiss, who snarks, "What I can't figure out is how he was overlooked by the Obama admin. for a high level position at the Justice Dept."

Too moderate.

48 Before lawyers took over the legal system juries were allowed to strike laws from the books, and judges were hardly ever lawyers. Also, every adult male was armed and considered a de facto part of the constabulary, which is where you get the citizen's arrest part of old societal law. I'd like to see us move back to that, but I've only ever heard the idea voiced among libertarians, not radical leftist race warriors. That's a new one for me.

In any event, I'm glad they got the perp. Cops have a hard job, and good ones are valuable assets. Scum like this guy deserve the worst our justice system can mete out (Or the best, depending on your perspective).

49 I am 41, unmarried, rebuilding after a business failure and own guns. I used to own a Datsun 210. Did I miss a memo? Should I be angry about something?

50

Prayers for all of the Seattle PD.

...and this type of aging, underachieving, activist loser seems too familiar to me. These types are all over our larger west coast cities. Now 41 years old, academically recycled multiple times (probably on the public dime), bounced all around until he landed among "progressives" in a "progressive" city. Dude jumps into the anti-police activist community in same city...usually among a younger crowd, as his age-peers will see him for what he is: a stunted, semi-loser. Among his new crowd, the youngsters may see him as an elder and a leader, so for the first time in his life, he is not an outcast....his (apparent) mixed race ethnicity helps him among the white activists, while at the same time his drive to prove "racial authenticity" and a well established persecution complex pushes him farther out toward the fringes, and this bad endup...probably idolized huey newton...seems probably that way, anyway.

 

 

51 But seriously...God bless the Seattle cops. I work with the wife of one and she's been amazingly unfazed about the whole thing. I'd be a bit freaked. I'd imagiune officers' families are a bit stressed whenever incidents of this nature occur.

52 I like jury nullification

53 Not that it has anything to do with anything but an entry on Butler's facebook page say's he was in seattle on Sept. 16 publicly debating a King County Assistant DA.

54

Monfort provided this title for his project with the McNair program: "The Power of Citizenship Your Government Doesn't Want You to Know About: How to Change the Inequity of the Criminal Justice System Immediately, Through Active Citizen Nullification of Laws, As a Juror."

In an abstract of his project, Monfort said he planned to "illuminate and further" the scholarship of Paul Butler, a law professor at George Washington University.

This guy reminds me of someone. Remember "Oswald?"

http://tinyurl.com/mwosg8

 

55 As a worker in the higher ed indoctrination factory, I am only surprised this doesn't happen more often.

56

Headlines shoulda' read:

Democrat extremist kills cops

 

57

I'm not asking any policy recommendations of the government for Washington because I know that they all came out of the same schools. I just think it's important that private people recognise that UW incorporates within its fields of study an anarchist madrassa ("Law, Societies and Justice" is just one tip of this ice shelf).

I also find it interesting that this guy did his work in a liberal city. Alinsky knew that liberal cities were the places to troll for budget-busting and order-weakening concessions. Violence like this destabilises the community and destablisation is what Alinsky is all about.

He was a sleeper agent of anarchy, which his university unleashed upon us.

58 An educated mulatto with daddy issues...imagine that...

59 "The suspect is an unmarried 41 year old. Hasan is an unmarried 39 year old. Neither are acts of politically or religiously motivated terrorism. Clearly, more needs to go into studying the effects of semen build up in early middle aged men."

trust me, one way or another, semen doesn't build up...

60 That's what I'm told anyway.

61

Dick Gregory is on some channel talkin' about the bad old days.

Keep fucking that chicken, Dickie.

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He sustained a head wound with the proximate cause of being a fucking tard.

I'd laugh if that line appeared in the report. 

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A co-worker of mine back in the 1990s was called up for jury duty in a wife-beating case.  The evidence was clear, the guy was guilty, and they voted so, except for two votes that came back not guilty.  The perpetrator was black, the wife was black, and two jurors were black women who folded their arms and refused to discuss their position.  They voted several times with the same 10-2 result. My co-worker said that the two black jurors just refused to convict a black man.

So jury nullification is already happenning, has been for years, and it is the black population which is denied justice because of it.

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Please someone find a conspiracy connection, or some kind of incitement clause in the law that will allow his 'academic advisors' to be prosecuted. Please.

70

The only thing controversial about jury nullification is that it doesn't happen far more often. 

Think Kelo.  The proper response to "we're from the government and we want to take his house" is "no."

While I want this Mumia-Abu Jamal wannabe pumped full of embalming fluid and turned into a mummy man, jury nullification DOES have its purpose, especially in situations when leftist gov't bureaucrats are trying to deprive a citizen of life, liberty and property using unjust and / or stupid laws.

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