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The Narrative: Hasan Was Suffering From Mental Problems. Subtext: So Are All Soldiers And It's Bush's Fault

Deviate and you are clearly inciting hatred.

Newsbusters has a few examples of the developing narrative.

Whatever you do, ignore the potential for jihad. Things like...

Soldiers reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" — an Arabic phrase for "God is great!" — before opening fire, said Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, the base commander. He said officials had not confirmed that Hasan made the comment.

Or this.

He gave a Grand Rounds presentation. . . You take turns giving a lecture on, you know, the correct treatment of schizophrenia, the right drugs to prescribe for personality disorder, you know, that sort of thing. But instead of giving an academic paper, he gave a lecture on the Koran, and they said it didn’t seem to be just an informational lecture, but it seemed to be his own beliefs. That’s what a lot of people thought.

He talked about how if you’re a nonbeliever the Koran says you should have your head cut off, you should have oil poured down your throat, you should be set on fire. And I said well couldn’t this just be his educating you? And the psychiatrist said yes, but one of the Muslims in the audience, another psychiatrist, raised his hand and was quite disturbed and he said you know, a lot of us don’t believe these things you’re saying, and that there was no place where Hasan couched it as this is what the Koran teaches but you know I don’t believe it. And people actually talked in the hallway afterwards about ‘is he one of these people that’s going to freak out and shoot people someday?’

Follow the link to Instapundit. There's more about Hasan including a report that he'd been reprimanded for "proselytizing about his Muslim faith with patients and colleagues".

Today President Shout-Out said we shouldn't jump to conclusions.

"We don't know all the answers yet. And I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts," Obama said in a Rose Garden statement otherwise devoted to the economy.

Funny but he was willing to reach conclusions within hours of the murder of abortionist George Tiller. Interestingly, it took Him 2 days to issue a statement when a Muslim terrorist killed a soldier at an Army recruitment office in Little Rock, Arkansas.

Seems some incidents call for restraint and others call for immediate conclusions.

Also, compare and contrast the media reaction.

Immediately Tiller's murder an act of domestic terrorism (here, here and here for just a few examples. Warning: liberal sites).

Now however, we must not even consider the idea that Hasan is a Muslim terrorist. Wouldn't want to spread fear and hate.

Just to be clear, jumping to conclusions is not what anyone is advocating. My problem with Obama and his courtiers in the media is that there are certain classes and subject which may not be speculated about but there are clearly some times when it's ok.

The media is most definitely jumping to conclusions, one unconnected to anything we know about Hasan while at the same time ruling out any consideration of a subset of the things for which there is evidence or at least indications.

Right now the Army Secretary and Chief of Staff are meeting the media at Fort Hood. They keep talking about 'stress' and 'suicide' while absolutely avoiding anything inconvenient about Hasan. It's dishonest and dangerous.

And below the fold, since I want to do what little I can to keep this alive, the Presidential Shout-Out not heard round the world.

Posted by: DrewM. at 02:41 PM



Comments

1 Before we jump to conclusions, I'd like to give a shout out to my main man Henry Gates. Fuck the police. Obama out.

Posted by: President Barack Hussein Obama at November 06, 2009 02:45 PM (DtTM9)

2 Hey Drew you might want to include the time where he said the Cambridge police acted stupidly two seconds after he said he didn't know all the facts yet. Seems to me he loves jumping to conclusions when they fit his narratives.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 06, 2009 02:45 PM (SqAkN)

3

I'd like to give a shout out to Shout, best stain remover ever.

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 06, 2009 02:46 PM (+FzLa)

4 God dammit someone beat me to it.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 06, 2009 02:46 PM (SqAkN)

5 As Chairman Soetero just said via the AP "let's not jump to conclusions"....

Posted by: slade at November 06, 2009 02:46 PM (XsHAM)

6 Didn't take too long to determine the Cambridge Police acted stupidly...

Posted by: choc jesus at November 06, 2009 02:47 PM (YTr8C)

7 for the record, Medal of Honor recipients abhor the word "winner". They are recipients of the medal, and for the rest of their living days, are caretakers for the medal.

I have met several, and they all are offended, and gently remind anyone when they mention the word "winner".

Obama has worked very hard on his salute, but needs to work on his military decorum.

Notice videos of his salute when first elected, and the video from the photo op at Delaware. Obama has a very crisp salute now.

Posted by: jeff at November 06, 2009 02:47 PM (+uoRK)

8 Look , the MSM can run with this stupid narrative all they want.

The bottom line is everyone thought the same thing when we first heard the news. Turns out we were right. America knows the truth, and they know the MSM is lying. The MSM just looks even more foolish (if that's possible).

Posted by: Dave at November 06, 2009 02:47 PM (Xm1aB)

9 Fuck Obama.

Posted by: RarestRX at November 06, 2009 02:48 PM (rmNST)

10

Of course it's Bush's fault.  He invaded Iraq, didn't he?

Kids are being killed in Afaghanistan, because Bush didn't finish what he started in that country.

Posted by: Java at November 06, 2009 02:48 PM (PEFmX)

11 BO: An ideology in an empty suit.

Posted by: mbabbitt at November 06, 2009 02:49 PM (p/jtE)

12 I won ?

Posted by: President Shout-Out at November 06, 2009 02:50 PM (5iQTe)

13 I'd like to give a shout out to Allah! My homie!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 06, 2009 02:50 PM (RD7QR)

14
And people actually talked in the hallway afterwards about ‘is he one of these people that’s going to freak out and shoot people someday?’

Yup.  And the brass let him. 

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 06, 2009 02:50 PM (Haq+B)

15

I have a million dollar idea for a "Jump to Conclusions" game. Whadda you guys think?

Posted by: Barry Obama at November 06, 2009 02:50 PM (d+s7R)

16 You know, the idea that all soldiers are killbots just waiting to go all spreey is horribly offensive to each and everyone man and woman in uniform.  Though, really, I've always wondered why portions of The Left want to put that out there.  I mean, don't you think a killbot would go all killy if you peeved it by calling it a killbot?

Posted by: alexthechick at November 06, 2009 02:51 PM (8WZWv)

17 Keeping fucking that buffalo Barry.

Posted by: Ernie Anastos at November 06, 2009 02:51 PM (Q1lie)

18 So it seems the military is infected with PC as well.

With all the warning signs I cannot understand why this nutjob was allowed to remain in the Army.

Posted by: Dave at November 06, 2009 02:52 PM (Xm1aB)

19

Nothing like ignoring the 1000 lb Gorilla Guerrilla in the room.

Posted by: Huckleberry at November 06, 2009 02:52 PM (s2bW4)

20 Hasan. Rodriguez.
Obama.

Beer Summit II: This Bud's For You

Jumping into theaters Winter 2009

Posted by: Big Hollywood at November 06, 2009 02:52 PM (DtTM9)

21 POTUS is such an ass.  If he had any credibility he could say "don't jump to conclusions" except he's King "Jump to conclusions".  Cambridge ring any bells.

Don't act so "stupidly" Mr. President.

Posted by: WTFCI at November 06, 2009 02:52 PM (GtYrq)

22


Malik Hussein O'Kenya!  Mmm, mmm, mmm!

Posted by: J. Moses Browning at November 06, 2009 02:53 PM (3G4di)

23 Joe Medicine Crow "won" the Presidential Medal of Freedom you jugeared dumbfuck!

I guess in Barry's world that was much more important since he gave it to him.  Asshole!!

Posted by: Hedgehog at November 06, 2009 02:53 PM (oQIfB)

24 Over at Hot Air Ed has a post wagging his finger and agreeing with Obama.Just because he shouted "Allahu Akbar"we shouldn't assume that he was a jihadi.Ed really can be a pussy sometimes.

Posted by: Mal at November 06, 2009 02:53 PM (Z+qzA)

25 With all the warning signs I cannot understand why this nutjob was allowed to remain in the Army.

Translator?

Posted by: WTFCI at November 06, 2009 02:53 PM (GtYrq)

26
"Let's not bicker, and argue, over 'oo killed 'oo"

Posted by: the MSM at November 06, 2009 02:53 PM (5iQTe)

27 Or maybe, Keep Blowing that Buffalo Barry.

Posted by: Ernie Anastos at November 06, 2009 02:53 PM (Q1lie)

28


I'd like to give a shout out to Islam, most peaceful religion ever.

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 06, 2009 02:53 PM (+FzLa)

29 Oh, here is another link. The guy didn't receive the MOH, he received the Medal of Freedom. There is a huge fucking difference.

Obama must not know the difference.

http://tiny.cc/7wJ7g

Posted by: jeff at November 06, 2009 02:54 PM (+uoRK)

30 Obama had no trouble jumping to conclusions about his pal Gatesgate.  He knew the police acted stupidly right away.

Posted by: erp at November 06, 2009 02:54 PM (BDRHK)

31 I mean, don't you think a killbot would go all killy if you peeved it by calling it a killbot?

Posted by: alexthechick at November 06, 2009 02:51 PM (8WZWv) 

--I must kill . . . the economy.


Posted by: 0bizzle at November 06, 2009 02:55 PM (I3Udb)

32

Also, if any of my C.A.I.R buddies are in the room, hollaback.

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 06, 2009 02:55 PM (+FzLa)

33 Can I say "He's not my president" now?

Posted by: Dave at November 06, 2009 02:55 PM (Xm1aB)

34 The Ft. Hood thing? Well, the police acted stupidly.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 06, 2009 02:55 PM (RD7QR)

35 Allahu Ackbar is nothing really.  I shout it right after I ring the doorbell to deliver the Pizza.  It's a self help technique to help me with the eventual jip tip I receive.

Posted by: Hasan Nidal Dominoes Delivery Guy at November 06, 2009 02:55 PM (GtYrq)

36 In case anybody missed it, the guy was a Medal of Freedom recipient (civilian), not Medal of Honor (military).

The prez should know the difference.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 06, 2009 02:56 PM (DIYmd)

37 Advocating beheading didn't set off enough alarm bells?  Nobody bothered to mention that to the Army?  Really?

Posted by: Beagle at November 06, 2009 02:56 PM (sOtz/)

38 Another thought:  If, as Chairman Soetero counsels, we are not to "jump to conclusions", then how, pray, can we conclude that the female police officer who shot Hassan Chop isn't the villain here?  Maybe she profiled Mr. Chop, no?

Posted by: slade at November 06, 2009 02:56 PM (XsHAM)

39 "First, I'd like to give a shout-out to my fellow jihadis in the Religion of Peace..."

Hey, who the hell put that on my 'prompter?!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 06, 2009 02:56 PM (pLTLS)

40 Hang on guys. It's not like this is a jihad jihad.

Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg at November 06, 2009 02:56 PM (DtTM9)

41 Oh, here is another link. The guy didn't receive the MOH, he received the Medal of Freedom. There is a huge fucking difference.

Obama must not know the difference.

http://tiny.cc/7wJ7g

They teach Kenyan history at Punahou.

Posted by: WTFCI at November 06, 2009 02:57 PM (GtYrq)

42
Advocating beheading didn't set off enough alarm bells?  Nobody bothered to mention that to the Army?  Really?

Anyone who spoke up would have had an EEOC complaint filed against them, ruining their chances of ever being promoted. 

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 06, 2009 02:57 PM (Haq+B)

43 "Mr. Chop?"

heh

Posted by: Dave at November 06, 2009 02:57 PM (Xm1aB)

44 Just a point, I thought Allahu Akbar! meant "Allah Conquers"...?

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at November 06, 2009 02:58 PM (qWXaM)

45 Terrorism? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at November 06, 2009 02:58 PM (/vN7m)

46 jeff, Obama wasn't shouting out to a Medal of Honor recipient.   He was shouting out to a medal of freedom winner, you know those politically correct awards dear leader gave out last month mostly to commies and other lefties.

Posted by: erp at November 06, 2009 02:58 PM (BDRHK)

47 Over at Hot Air Ed has a post wagging his finger and agreeing with Obama.Just because he shouted "Allahu Akbar"we shouldn't assume that he was a jihadi.Ed really can be a pussy sometimes.

Posted by: Mal at November 06, 2009 02:53 PM (Z+qzA)



Doc Zero is the only reason to even bother going over there anymore.

Posted by: Blazer at November 06, 2009 02:58 PM (+FzLa)

48 Wow  that was one great meeting on the interior we had wasn't it?
By the way Ranger Rick? I just got that joke about the PETA guy.
In terrier....Interior....I get it! Ha Ha Ha.

Posted by: Barrack Obama at November 06, 2009 02:59 PM (Q1lie)

49 Just because he shouted "Allahu Akbar"we shouldn't assume that he was a jihadi.

Hook 'Em Horns!!

Posted by: Michigan Fan at November 06, 2009 02:59 PM (5aa4z)

50 Okay, I think we can make a killing on an 0bama doll.

Just pull the string and it'll say:

"Let's not jump to conclusions"

"Let me be clear"

"Some may say . . ."

"I reject that choice"

"That is cynicism"

Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2009 02:59 PM (I3Udb)

51 Yesterday a friend said 'wow, it occurred in the very red red state of Texas"  and I was like so what does that mean and she gave the evil lib smile and the subject was changed.

Posted by: curious at November 06, 2009 03:00 PM (p302b)

52 Trying to understand the effects of stress...Fox

Try to understand the effects of a bullet going through your infidel skull, you nitwits.

Posted by: Salem at November 06, 2009 03:00 PM (86rbG)

53

7 Dr Joe Medicine Crow was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom NOT the Congressional Medal of Honor. It is equivalent to the Congressional Gold Medal. While nothing to sneeze at, it is not the same thing.

Yet another Obama F up.

SHOUT IT OUT

Posted by: dagny at November 06, 2009 03:00 PM (2vtOS)

54 I would like to give a shout out to my fellow 10.2%ers, Pink Slip Medal winners.

Posted by: the unemployed at November 06, 2009 03:00 PM (DIYmd)

55 Just a point, I thought Allahu Akbar! meant "Allah Conquers"...?

I thought it meant "Light fuse and get away".

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 06, 2009 03:01 PM (5aa4z)

56 I thought "Allahu Akbar" was Islamic for "Alice Cooper"?

Posted by: slade at November 06, 2009 03:01 PM (XsHAM)

57 and,

nothing says Total.Cultural.Awareness like closing your remarks at the Tribal Nations event with a big ol' 'GOD BLESS YOU' and GOD BLESS AMERICA!

jeebus .... I'd bet half the fucking room felt like burying their still beating heart at Wounded Knee by the time Barack finished his remarks.

I know I did.

Tone. Deafestest.President. Ever.

Posted by: BumperStickeist at November 06, 2009 03:01 PM (ruzrP)

58

So how many more lives of US soldiers are going to be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness?  We are in a War of Civilizations, and the Muslims have made it quite clear that they are fighting to win.  Until we do the same, there are going to be a lot more tragedies like this.  This guy was clearly a jihadist, he should never have been in the Army to begin with.  Its not the first time a Muslim soldier turned on non-Muslims and it won't be the last. 

Ultimately, to the Muslims, loyalty to the Koran comes before loyalty to the US constitution.  We had better get used to this reality.

Posted by: BattleofthePyramids at November 06, 2009 03:01 PM (uh/tA)

59 You're all racists!

Posted by: Gravity Dick sitting in for Palin Steel's Mom at November 06, 2009 03:01 PM (zRJJr)

60 OT (kinda)

We need to elect just not a conservative mother f-cker for president in 2012, but one who will explicitly state "I will spend a good portion of my first year in office eradicating every vestige of socialism and anti-America hatred left by Obama and his disgusting administration!"

Posted by: Dave at November 06, 2009 03:01 PM (Xm1aB)

61

I'd like to give a shout out to Allahpundit.Who knew Allah had his own website where he does political commentary and stalks the infidel daughter of my opponent in last years election ?

Rahm, did you ?

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 06, 2009 03:01 PM (+FzLa)

62 Dr Joe Medicine Crow?  Wasn't that Dr. Hook's first lineup?

Posted by: slade at November 06, 2009 03:02 PM (XsHAM)

63 Just because he shouted "Allahu Akbar"we shouldn't assume that he was a jihadi.

When I hear "Allahu Akbar", I just think the speaker's a fan of Matt Groening's "Life Is Hell" comics.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 06, 2009 03:02 PM (ZJ/un)

64 I thought "Allahu Akbar" was Islamic for "Alice Cooper"?

Nah, it means "Waaaaah! You hurt my feeeeeelings!"

Posted by: joncelli at November 06, 2009 03:02 PM (RD7QR)

65 Obama has worked very hard on his salute, but needs to work on his military decorum.

Notice videos of his salute when first elected, and the video from the photo op at Delaware. Obama has a very crisp salute now.


Actually, this saluting while in civilian clothes thing kind of irritates me. Irritated me when Bush and Reagan did it, as well. The salute is rendered as a sign of respect for rank between warriors while in uniform. Service members don't salute while in mufti (in fact, they are prohibited from doing so, as I recall), and the civilian members of the chain of command should adhere to the same rules.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 06, 2009 03:03 PM (r8/Km)

66

Argh this makes me so mad@!!!!@!@!@!

Must....stop.....killing.....impulses.....

Goosfravah.....goosfravah....

Posted by: Killroy McKillbot, Esquire at November 06, 2009 03:03 PM (SqAkN)

67 28 I'd like to give a shout out to Islam, most peaceful religion ever.
Posted by: Barack Obama

 

THREAD WINNER

Posted by: Fondu at November 06, 2009 03:03 PM (e8YaH)

68 Before too long I'm hoping I'll be able to climb on top of my roof and shout out that the O-Bomber is criminal scum.

Posted by: Salem at November 06, 2009 03:03 PM (86rbG)

69
Allahu Akbear !!

Posted by: The Bear who ate those jihadis in Pakistan at November 06, 2009 03:04 PM (+FzLa)

70

He may have been shouting ALLAH PUNDIT because he too hates Palin, Beck, and Jesus.

So confusing.

Posted by: dagny at November 06, 2009 03:04 PM (2vtOS)

71 It would be pretty funny if the Whitehouse.gov 2.0 website had it's own "corrections" page.

On November 5th the President congratulated Dr. Joe for winning the Medal of Honor.  Dr. Joe didn't 'win' anything.  He was awarded the Medal of Freedom.  It is not the same as the Medal of Honor.

'Wee weed' is not a word nor a phrase.

Posted by: WTFCI at November 06, 2009 03:04 PM (GtYrq)

72 We need to elect just not a conservative mother f-cker for president in 2012, but one who will explicitly state "I will spend a good portion of my first year in office eradicating every vestige of socialism and anti-America hatred left by Obama and his disgusting administration!"

Posted by: Dave at November 06, 2009 03:01 PM (Xm1aB)

--I wish I could say that this PC-squishy bullshit started with 0bama, but it dadn't  It goes way back.  Remember all the crazy shit the 9/11 plotters said and did but did not cause much of a fuss?

Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2009 03:04 PM (I3Udb)

73 Let's face it, FoxNews and the rest of the jackbooted thugocracy of the Wrong-Wing Media kept this poor victimized soul from basking in the glory of the New Age of Obama. He WON, you know.


Posted by: The Keepers of the Narrative at November 06, 2009 03:04 PM (X2xSP)

74 "To the police I'm sayin fuck you punkReadin my rights and shit, it's all junkPullin out a silly club, so you standWith a fake assed badge and a gun in your handBut take off the gun so you can see what's upAnd we'll go at it punk, and I'ma fuck you up"

Posted by: Prez Ren BO at November 06, 2009 03:05 PM (cvvNY)

75 Dr Joe Medicine Crow was a recurring character on the world renown emmy winning show "Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman"

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 06, 2009 03:05 PM (SqAkN)

76
she gave the evil lib smile and the subject was changed.

The stupid cunt knows military installations are full of people from all over the states, right?  As in, this piece of shit was from Virginia.  

I suggest you give her a cunt punt and tell her to go fuck herself.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 06, 2009 03:05 PM (Haq+B)

77 Dr Joe Medicine Crow?  Wasn't that Dr. Hook's first lineup?

Posted by: slade at November 06, 2009 03:02 PM (XsHAM)

--I was turned down for that role.

Posted by: Jane Seymour at November 06, 2009 03:05 PM (I3Udb)

78 Eventually, "Allah Akbar" will come to mean "Shoot me. Shoot me right now!"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 06, 2009 03:06 PM (ZGhSv)

79 Yesterday a friend said 'wow, it occurred in the very red red state of Texas"  and I was like so what does that mean and she gave the evil lib smile and the subject was changed.

You didn't hit her in the face?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 06, 2009 03:07 PM (NtiET)

80 Rahm, did you ?

I'm sorry.  I was shagging my ballerina slippers.  Did you say something?

Posted by: Rahm Emmanuel at November 06, 2009 03:07 PM (GtYrq)

81 I somehow landed on MSNBC for about ten seconds last night and discovered that we should expect no less than this kind of event because our modern military was not designed to fight 2 wars for 8+ years.

Posted by: rockhead at November 06, 2009 03:07 PM (RykTt)

82

7 Dr Joe Medicine Crow was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom NOT the Congressional Medal of Honor. It is equivalent to the Congressional Gold Medal. While nothing to sneeze at, it is not the same thing.

Yet another Obama F up.

SHOUT IT OUT

Posted by: dagny at November 06, 2009 03:00 PM (2vtOS)

--Still not funny!

Posted by: pained tail at November 06, 2009 03:07 PM (I3Udb)

83 I have to agree that Ed's "one data point" argument has not been true since the early reports.  Other soldiers say he talked about Muslims defending themselves, the beheading lecture, always being opposed to any US action against Muslims, and so on.  Classic jihad motivations based on Islam if you follow these things.     

Posted by: Beagle at November 06, 2009 03:07 PM (sOtz/)

84 Can the firing squad yell "Aloha, Akbar!" at Major Pigfucker just before firing? You know, to be culturally sensitive...

Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at November 06, 2009 03:08 PM (pLTLS)

85 Cur:  Check photos from Reagan's administration.  The Gipper put his hand on his heart.  Because he knew how to be a f***ing President.

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 06, 2009 03:08 PM (6yEzu)

86 Yeah, and apparently Geraldo thinks the headline should be about how there aren't more shootings like this with 4-million muslims in America.

Fucktwit.

Posted by: Dave at November 06, 2009 03:08 PM (Xm1aB)

87 I wonder if Fox gave Greta a talking to after yesterday's program. I couldn't believe she was the one sounding like the voice of anti-excuse reason.

Posted by: d at November 06, 2009 03:08 PM (uTknY)

88
@50 Include pins with that doll and you would double sales.

Posted by: Kyle Canyon at November 06, 2009 03:09 PM (Oxen1)

89 Get up get get get down
9-1-1 is a joke in your town

Posted by: Henry Louis Gates at November 06, 2009 03:09 PM (DtTM9)

90

I agree with the President.  Let's not leap to conclusions.  You know you wouldn't want people leaping to conclusions if it was you who killed a bunch of people.  And proselytized your fellow soldiers.  And spoke approvingly of jihad and suicide bombers.

It could be anything.

Posted by: Ed Morrissey at November 06, 2009 03:10 PM (J5Srq)

91 #87

I gotta' tell you, when she first started out, I thought Greta sucked and was another leftist.

Turns out I was wrong. She's good.

Posted by: Dave at November 06, 2009 03:10 PM (Xm1aB)

92 Shout out to Allah, what-what!

Posted by: Hasan the Assassin at November 06, 2009 03:11 PM (J5Srq)

93 must... not... jump... to... conclusions!

Posted by: MSM Morning of 9/11 Timewarp at November 06, 2009 03:11 PM (DtTM9)

94 Supposedly this guy was a "convert" so he isn't a translator. The Army should have seen the signs but all of the government is eat up with PC bullshit.

I he had been around when I was in the Navy spouting bullshit like that o othr troops and officers he would have been in Leavenworth as fast as they could get him off the ship.

Along with the two helicopter pilots who tried to smuggle cocain on board in Mombasa.

Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2009 03:12 PM (CDUiN)

95 Turns out I was wrong. She's good.

Posted by: Dave at November 06, 2009 03:10 PM (Xm1aB)






Yes she is. I really enjoyed her interviews with the Palins and especially the one she did with the interim president of Honduras. Greta holds her own.

Posted by: Blazer at November 06, 2009 03:12 PM (+FzLa)

96 Does the hideous mutant Dan-Rather clone ever go on vacation?

Posted by: Salem at November 06, 2009 03:12 PM (86rbG)

97 "‘They Left Me To Rot,’ Shouts Suspect In Deadly Office Shooting"CNN talking to Ken Jacobson, Reynolds, Smith and Hills, general counsel,  he claimed that the guy was fired two and a half years ago for poor performance and that he only worked there for 11 months and that they tried to work with hi to improve his performance and it didn't happen.  Guess the guy, Jacobson, was in shock cause he sounded like a really tough, souless guy.

Posted by: curious at November 06, 2009 03:13 PM (p302b)

98 Press Secretary Robert Gibbs will be announcing shortly a beer summit between Police Sgt. Kimberly Munley and Hasan as so as they both are able. The White House reports that they will be serving Root Beer in respect of Hasan’s religion. Obama is quoted as musing that “I hope this isn’t another case of racial profiling”.    

Posted by: wrg at November 06, 2009 03:13 PM (7t+Ws)

99

Does the Medal of Freedom come with a bag of whatever Obama is smoking?

Posted by: The Traveling Medicine Show at November 06, 2009 03:13 PM (GwPRU)

100 One data point:  He yelled "Allahu Akbar"

Other datapoints that yelled Allahu Akhbar: The 9/11 hijackers, the Khobar bombers, the Cole bombers, the pilot of the Egyptian airliner, and multiple greasy spots in the sands of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 06, 2009 03:13 PM (5aa4z)

101 Fact check? Fuck it. This is too important.

Posted by: Dan Rather's National Guard Documents at November 06, 2009 03:14 PM (DtTM9)

102 Let's go guys, I need some news, I am going on the air in a few hours.  Anything happen this week?  Anything at all.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at November 06, 2009 03:14 PM (DIYmd)

103 This reminds me of the DC Muslim snipers, where the State Media did everything they could to actually discuss why they were engaged in terrorism - jihad.

Oh, and as for not overreacting - uh, remember that census worker that died recently? The Left is still trying to claim that was domestic terrorism, and Limbaugh and Beck are personally to blame.

It seems to me that in this case the media needs to answer some hard questions about how their demonizing of the military for the last 8 years might be encouraging jihadi violence...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 06, 2009 03:14 PM (7BU4a)

104

"Can I say "He's not my president" now?"

I've been saying that from day 1.

Posted by: Bosk at November 06, 2009 03:14 PM (pUO5u)

105 Jacobson also told CNN that they hadn't heard from the guy in the 2 1/2 years. 

Posted by: curious at November 06, 2009 03:14 PM (p302b)

106 -
why is it that the Islamist take on the Koran is reminiscent of the major boobage - redolent animated film  Heavy Metal?

[y]ou should have your head cut off, you should have oil poured down your throat, you should be set on fire.  Major Hasan - apparent Islamist.

Hanging's too good for him. Burning's too good for him! He should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried alive! ~Hanover Fist from Heavy Metal

~ sigh ~

So long as a hot buxom chick wearing a thong-like garmet, carrying a magic sword, and riding a pterodactyl is around to protect us, we'll be fine. 

Posted by: BumperStickeist at November 06, 2009 03:14 PM (ruzrP)

107
I'd like to give a shout out to Kool, best cigarettes ever.

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 06, 2009 03:15 PM (+FzLa)

108 OT

I wandered over to LGF to see how Chucky would handle the story.

He quoted a headline naming the suspect, and Chucky's headline was something like "Shooter's a major,,," completely ignoring the arabic name.

Posted by: Dave at November 06, 2009 03:16 PM (Xm1aB)

109 can Obumbles admit that Hassan acted "stupidly"?

Posted by: Julescat at November 06, 2009 03:17 PM (cQzDI)

110 Don't connect the dots!

Posted by: Salem at November 06, 2009 03:17 PM (86rbG)

111 Look what I found: http://tinyurl.com/ykajskz

When you lose NBC CHICAGO, you know Obama screwed up.

"But instead of a somber chief executive offering reassuring words and expressions of sympathy and compassion, viewers saw a wildly disconnected and inappropriately light president making introductory remarks. At the event, a Tribal Nations Conference hosted by the Department of Interior's Bureau of Indian affairs, the president thanked various staffers and offered a "shout-out" to "Dr. Joe Medicine Crow -- that Congressional Medal of Honor winner." Three minutes in, the president spoke about the shooting, in measured and appropriate terms. Who is advising him?"

Posted by: enoxo at November 06, 2009 03:17 PM (+J6OV)

112

I agree with the President.  Let's not leap to conclusions.  You know you wouldn't want people leaping to conclusions if it was you who killed a bunch of people.  And proselytized your fellow soldiers.  And spoke approvingly of jihad and suicide bombers.

It could be anything.

Posted by: Ed Morrissey at November 06, 2009 03:10 PM (J5Srq)

Or you know, maybe you plant a few bombs, and try to kill some soldiers - that doesn't make you a terrorist or a bad person right? Because if you were trying to kill them, to, you know, save them from getting sent to fight in an illegal war, that is good right?

Posted by: Bill Ayers at November 06, 2009 03:17 PM (7BU4a)

113 Holy crap! There's news breaking out all over the place. Bill Owens up in NY 23 has broken 4 promises in his first hour of congress - you'll have to google it because it won't take the link and I'm too lazy to tinyurl it.

And an Acorn office in LA is being raided.

Posted by: bse5150 at November 06, 2009 03:17 PM (hIOnV)

114 Oh, and as for not overreacting - uh, remember that census worker that died recently? The Left is still trying to claim that was domestic terrorism, and Limbaugh and Beck are personally to blame.

It seems to me that in this case the media needs to answer some hard questions about how their demonizing of the military for the last 8 years might be encouraging jihadi violence...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 06, 2009 03:14 PM (7BU4a)






I read an article I believe over at Newsbusters yesterday that said the police are confirming the guy committed suicide. Wonder why we haven't heard from the media yet about that?

Hmmmmmmmm.

Posted by: Blazer at November 06, 2009 03:18 PM (+FzLa)

115 Hey, we know who's at fault for this and everything else....evil white Christian men, women, and children.  It's their fault. 

Posted by: Sparky at November 06, 2009 03:19 PM (mXY2a)

116 Let my meme rest in peace.

Posted by: Windchime with FED on his Chest at November 06, 2009 03:19 PM (5aa4z)

117

I think our Present sympathizes with muslims.

And Hasan was not suffering from mental problems. As he stood there, pulling the trigger and yelling  "Allahu Akbar!", he was just being a good muslim.

And this is what the media and the Present and all them pointy-headed intellectuals willfully ignore. And they ignore it out of cowardice and fear.

Posted by: Jones at November 06, 2009 03:19 PM (JL3qV)

118

108

Uh didn't that website spend the last 8 years trying to tell people that radical islam is a threat? WTF happened that was the only reason the guy had a blog as far as I knew. So not only has he turned against anything Republican or right wing but now he is embracing PC speech with regards to terrorists? Whatever drugs has that guy been on in the last year they must be really freakin good, or maybe he is trying to win his own fiskie award or whatever that stupid thing is called.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 06, 2009 03:20 PM (SqAkN)

119 I'd like to give a shout-out to stupid people everywhere, to whom I owe my job!

Posted by: 0bama at November 06, 2009 03:20 PM (I3Udb)

120

Mr. Obama,

One does not "win" a Medal of Honor. One earns it or is awarded it.

It's not a contest.

Posted by: Max Entropy at November 06, 2009 03:21 PM (uuZjB)

121
This was the first attack by a muslim on American soil since the Civil War.


Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses at November 06, 2009 03:21 PM (9X3KM)

122 51 Yesterday a friend said 'wow, it occurred in the very red red state of Texas"  and I was like so what does that mean and she gave the evil lib smile and the subject was changed.

Posted by: curious at November 06, 2009 03:00 PM (p302b)

Dude, I've been telling the jihadis to go after you wingnuts since 9/11. All Your Pork Rinds dude, or whatever the hell they actually say.

Posted by: Michael Moore at November 06, 2009 03:22 PM (7BU4a)

123

121

Hahhahahahhaa

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 06, 2009 03:22 PM (SqAkN)

124

While I'm droppin' shout outs, I can't forget my homie Eazy-E who's immortal lyrics inspired me:

OE 800 yes that's my brand,

Take it in a bottle, 40, quart or can,

Drink it like a mad man yes I do,

Fuck the police and the 502!

BOYEEEEEEEEE!

Posted by: Cash Money Obie at November 06, 2009 03:23 PM (aEgRp)

125

Uh didn't that website spend the last 8 years trying to tell people that radical islam is a threat? WTF happened that was the only reason the guy had a blog as far as I knew. So not only has he turned against anything Republican or right wing but now he is embracing PC speech with regards to terrorists? Whatever drugs has that guy been on in the last year they must be really freakin good, or maybe he is trying to win his own fiskie award or whatever that stupid thing is called.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 06, 2009 03:20 PM (SqAkN)

 

the transformation over there is scizophrenic and complete. the man must labor under some recently festered pathology. sad, really.

 

Posted by: Vergeltung at November 06, 2009 03:23 PM (jttPx)

126 Yesterday a friend said 'wow, it occurred in the very red red state of Texas" and I was like so what does that mean and she gave the evil lib smile and the subject was changed.



It meant she was happy that a bunch of patriots got killed, since here in Texas the majority of us like our Country, and don't like the Marxist hell-hole President Shout-Out is trying to turn it in to.


Face facts: Liberals are happy when conservatives, or soldiers, die. They CHEERED when Reagan died (Ted Rall did, anyways) and remember all the 'grim milestone' memes in Iraq?


Liberals. Can't live with 'em. Can we just ship them to Canaduh?

Posted by: Naqamel at November 06, 2009 03:23 PM (UMwMT)

127 Let's not jump to conclusions

Posted by: ACORN New Orleans at November 06, 2009 03:24 PM (I3Udb)

128

I was talking to a normally sensible coworker who cautioned earlier today not to "jump to conclusions" when I said what happened at Fort Hood was a terrorist attack.

If that's not a terrorist attack, what is?  WHEN are people going to get that pure Islam is not the "religion of peace"?

Grrrr. . . .

Posted by: Biblio Phile at November 06, 2009 03:24 PM (y5VNb)

129 60 OT (kinda)

We need to elect just not a conservative mother f-cker for president in 2012, but one who will explicitly state "I will spend a good portion of my first year in office eradicating every vestige of socialism and anti-America hatred left by Obama and his disgusting administration!"

I suspect that's on page 1 of Going Rogue. 


Posted by: Derak at November 06, 2009 03:24 PM (sx1ot)

130 I'd like to give a big shout-out to Bill Ayers, except then people might wonder why I'm giving a shout-out to just some guy in my neighborhood.

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 06, 2009 03:24 PM (e8YaH)

131 Make that 14 dead.  Francheska Velez was 6 weeks pregnant.  http://tinyurl.com/ya7jya4

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 06, 2009 03:24 PM (5aa4z)

132 Actually, this saluting while in civilian clothes thing kind of irritates me. Irritated me when Bush and Reagan did it, as well. The salute is rendered as a sign of respect for rank between warriors while in uniform. Service members don't salute while in mufti (in fact, they are prohibited from doing so, as I recall), and the civilian members of the chain of command should adhere to the same rules.

I must respectfully disagree.  The POTUS is the Commander in Chief, and is also technically a civilian IIRC.  We don't have Supreme Commandants marching around in uniform with dozens of medals pined to the chest. 

Come to think of it, when would the CiC ever wear a uniform?  I think George Washington was the first and last POTUS to exercise direct command as CiC, during the Whiskey Rebellion.

Posted by: Techie at November 06, 2009 03:25 PM (cxW4X)

133 Face facts: Liberals are happy when conservatives, or soldiers, die. They CHEERED when Reagan died (Ted Rall did, anyways) and remember all the 'grim milestone' memes in Iraq?

Posted by: Naqamel at November 06, 2009 03:23 PM (UMwMT)

Well, I only cheer a little, mostly in private now. Damn wingnuts keep using my statements in context...embarrassing context.

Posted by: Kos at November 06, 2009 03:26 PM (7BU4a)

134 98 Press Secretary Robert Gibbs will be announcing shortly a beer summit between Police Sgt. Kimberly Munley and Hasan as so as they both are able. The White House reports that they will be serving Root Beer in respect of Hasan’s religion. Obama is quoted as musing that “I hope this isn’t another case of racial profiling”.    

Posted by: wrg at November 06, 2009 03:13 PM (7t+Ws)

The O-hole will request that Sgt. Munley wear a burka while in the presence of Hasan.

Posted by: concious, but incoherent at November 06, 2009 03:26 PM (kn+jW)

135 I suspect that's on page 1 of Going Rogue.


Hell yeah. Palin 2012.

Posted by: Naqamel at November 06, 2009 03:26 PM (UMwMT)

136

: IllTemperedCur at November 06, 2009 03:03 PM (r8/Km)

I hear ya but the President is the Commander In Chief and his uniform is on 24/7.  Plus he is returning a salute.

Posted by: polynikes at November 06, 2009 03:26 PM (m2CN7)

137 Lackey: Well sir, there was the election on Tues.
Gibson: Who Won?
L: the evil republicans
G: Can't use it.

L: How about this Ft Hood shooting?
G: Evil right wing clinger?
L: Muslim
G: Can't use it.

L: Orlando shooting?
G: Evil right wing clinger?
L: Hispanic
G: Can't use it.

L: New high in unemployment?
G: Will it look band for Obama?
L: Probably.
G: Can't use it.


L: Sarah Palin has a book coming out.
G: We know she's evil.
L: Yep
G: Let's do a story on how stupid she is, make it the lead.

Posted by: ABC newsroom at November 06, 2009 03:26 PM (DIYmd)

138 Big ups to my boys Andy Stern and Eliseo Medina over at SEIU!

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 06, 2009 03:27 PM (DtTM9)

139 130 I'd like to give a big shout-out to Bill Ayers, except then people might wonder why I'm giving a shout-out to just some guy in my neighborhood.

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 06, 2009 03:24 PM (e8YaH)

Shout Out? I want my royalties damn it. Do you know how expensive timers and blasting caps are nowadays?

Posted by: Bill Ayers at November 06, 2009 03:27 PM (7BU4a)

140 #139

Heh.

Posted by: Dave at November 06, 2009 03:28 PM (Xm1aB)

141
Sean Penn announced that he has bought the rights to Hasan's story and will play the lead in a "searing indictment of a racist military and the one brave man who struggled to change the system".

Posted by: Katie Couric's colon at November 06, 2009 03:28 PM (Oxen1)

142 If that's not a terrorist attack, what is?

Did you SEE all those scary conservatives with the signs at the Capitol yesterday?!?

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at November 06, 2009 03:28 PM (NtiET)

143 Hasan was actually yelling "Admiral Akbar!" He thought he was assaulting the second Death Star.

Posted by: Julescat at November 06, 2009 03:29 PM (cQzDI)

144

Damn someone pulling out Eazy E lyrics.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 06, 2009 03:29 PM (SqAkN)

145 Did you SEE all those scary conservatives with the signs at the Capitol yesterday?!?

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at November 06, 2009 03:28 PM (NtiET)

The Capitol? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at November 06, 2009 03:30 PM (7BU4a)

146 Yes she is. I really enjoyed her interviews with the Palins and especially the one she did with the interim president of Honduras. Greta holds her own.

Yeah, and she can actually land an opening pitch across the plate. Throws like a guy.

Posted by: Derak at November 06, 2009 03:30 PM (sx1ot)

147 Pregnant soldier shot - do Liberals count the unborn as a person? Because if they do, the rules need to be changed again. SOMEONE on the Left is going to bring this up - mark my word.

Posted by: Def Leppard at November 06, 2009 03:30 PM (hIOnV)

148 Obama also seems to have conflicted loyalties. He has repeatedly denounced the U.S. and does not identify with it. He has been indoctrinated to be alienated from our values. His surrogate father was Communist Party apparatchek Frank Davis. Obama in his autobiography (or authorized biography) relates that he found Marxist professors and Islamics to be most congenial to him and he sought out their company. He chose a black racist bigot, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, as his avuncular friend and family intimate, and mentor, a man who spouted anti-American, anti-white, and anti-Jewish vitriol for some two decades of their association.

Conditioning affects anyone. Obama's other associations are permeated with people whose stated beliefs are antithetical to American values, people such as self-declared domestic terrorist, Weatherman Bill Ayers, whose group bombed the Pentagon, and Ms Dunn, who praises the philosophy of Chairman Mao, a monster whose "philosophy" caused him to murder as many as 70 million Chinese during peacetime.

Posted by: wrg at November 06, 2009 03:30 PM (7t+Ws)

149 One of the teachers killed at Jonesboro was pregnant.  Very few stories (after the roll was known) that I read back then noted that.

Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2009 03:32 PM (I3Udb)

150 Mad props to my homegirl Dede Scozzafava. Shake them haters off, baby.

Posted by: David Frum at November 06, 2009 03:32 PM (DtTM9)

151
Hasan was actually yelling "Admiral Akbar!" He thought he was assaulting the second Death Star.

Posted by: Julescat at November 06, 2009 03:29 PM (cQzDI)






Its A Trap !!

Posted by: Admiral Akbar at November 06, 2009 03:32 PM (+FzLa)

152 do Liberals count the unborn as a person

Usedta be it was a baby if the mother wanted it to be a baby, but they revoked that last year.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 06, 2009 03:32 PM (NtiET)

153

Damn someone pulling out Eazy E lyrics.

Distant memories of a youth richly spent.

Alas, it is all I have left.

 

 

That and the 15 pack of Stroh's in the fridge. Bottoms up!

Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 06, 2009 03:33 PM (aEgRp)

154 The slander of U.S. military continues at Newsweek:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yc233vw

Posted by: The Diddy at November 06, 2009 03:33 PM (Lr2Ob)

155 On the "terrorist attack" thing:

Terrorism, by my understanding is violence directed at civilians for political purposes (roughly and briefly).  That this attack specifically targeted military personnel of a nation engaged in armed conflict, by someone who appears to support the opposition, makes this action -not- a terrorist attack.

I think it is more appropriate to call Hasan a traitor, though his actions bear many of the hallmarks of terrorist attacks.

Posted by: ef at November 06, 2009 03:34 PM (+5ndY)

156

Remember the disgusting sign from those dirty, stinking, low life scum bag hippies that read: they support our troops when they shoot their officers.

Ironic that they are probably now supporting the officer that shot his troops.

spit.

 

Posted by: polynikes at November 06, 2009 03:34 PM (m2CN7)

157
And an Acorn office in LA is being raided.

It's Acorn headquarters in New Orleans.  Jindahls gonna get kneecapped for that.

Posted by: Derak at November 06, 2009 03:34 PM (sx1ot)

158 I think it is more appropriate to call Hasan a traitor, though his actions bear many of the hallmarks of terrorist attacks.

Posted by: ef at November 06, 2009 03:34 PM (+5ndY)

Call it jaywalking, for all I fucking care.  I'm just waiting.

Posted by: The Rope at November 06, 2009 03:35 PM (5aa4z)

159

"Soldiers reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" — an Arabic phrase for "God is great!" — before opening fire, said Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, the base commander."

See, he said God is great, just like a Christian would, so Christians also do this.

As we all know, White Christians could just have well gone off and murdered in the name of their God too, because they are idiots for believing in God, but if they believed in Allah, well, I think it's a little different, but only if I'm forced to judge.

So, this guy was obviously a Christian and killing in the name of Jesus.


Posted by: Sen. Rev. Dr. E Buzz at November 06, 2009 03:36 PM (dh7zu)

160 This is better.  Screw Newsweek:

http://tinyurl.com/yc233vw

Posted by: The Diddy at November 06, 2009 03:36 PM (Lr2Ob)

161 OT:

Rihanna: "It's embarrassing that I feel in Love with Chris Brown"

http://tinyurl.com/y9okj38

--Yeah, we're starting to feel that way, too.

Posted by: The 52% at November 06, 2009 03:36 PM (I3Udb)

Posted by: joe at November 06, 2009 03:36 PM (p302b)

163 Shooter suffered from "compassion fatigue" don't you know?

Posted by: Dave at November 06, 2009 03:36 PM (Xm1aB)

164 Turns out I was wrong. She's good.

Posted by: Dave at November 06, 2009 03:10 PM (Xm1aB)

Yes she is. I really enjoyed her interviews with the Palins and especially the one she did with the interim president of Honduras. Greta holds her own.
Blazer

She's  changed quite a lot. Coming from a background as a defense attorney and scientologist  - she now routinely  hammers the Zero Admin. * Congressfor the healthcare mess, porkulous, ridiculous govt waste, etc.  Last night she was great as she  basically called Hassan scum and no excuse was good enough.

I wonder if it was her friendship with the Palin's and seeing how badly & unfairly they were treated that opened her eyes.

Posted by: Cheri at November 06, 2009 03:37 PM (G+Wff)

165 137 - dead on!

Posted by: Def Leppard at November 06, 2009 03:37 PM (hIOnV)

166 If the Army had been allowed to think for itself instead of being subjected to sensitivity training at every turn, red flags would have gone up all around Hasan for his comments prior to his jihad.

Posted by: wrg at November 06, 2009 03:40 PM (7t+Ws)

167

Hell, I still got old Eazy E, Onyx, Pantera, and Wutang CD's in my closet. Now I am 30 and I work in a cubicle all day. FML

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 06, 2009 03:41 PM (SqAkN)

168 Yesterday watching these events unfold I felt a horror come over me, and I felt as if the weight of the world was upon my shoulders. Wasn't it the same for you? There was a heaviness and dreadful stunned feeling that I could not shake off.

I saw no such horror on Obama's face.  I saw no such stunned look.  On the contrary, there was a light-heartedness about him.  A feeling of joviality as he bantered back and forth in front of the Native American crowd. 

The man was not carrying the weight of those soldiers' deaths upon his shoulders as he spoke.  He is not feeling the weight of them today.  Those who served and died do not seem to have dampened his enthusiasm for himself.


Posted by: mama winger at November 06, 2009 03:41 PM (Ue9UN)

169 Hey everyone! Don't forget that funemployment hit 10.2 percent today! Let's be sure and remind everyone we see.

Posted by: Def Leppard at November 06, 2009 03:41 PM (hIOnV)

170 Chris Matthews loves to have Barry's ball stuffed in his mouth.....

Posted by: Todd (the guy who is back to saying Obama sucks cock) at November 06, 2009 03:42 PM (LLOGQ)

171

"They weren't in Iraq," author Dinesh D'Souza said on television Thursday night, analyzing the culprit. "They were living a normal, everyday life." But he is wrong. In the midst of two wars, those living as military and military family experience a different—often, more distressing—everyday experience of "normal." And forgetting that, either in understanding this singular case, or making a decision about more deployments, is dangerous at best, and morally bankrupt at worst.

I come from a military family and have friends in the military and they all seem to live perfectly normal lives.

What Mr. Bast fails to realize is that those who are suited for military service are generally better able to cope with the stress involved, unlike candy-assed dandy boys like the author himself. This guy needs to get kicked in the nuts, just because.

Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 06, 2009 03:43 PM (aEgRp)

172 I wonder if it was her friendship with the Palin's and seeing how badly & unfairly they were treated that opened her eyes.

Perhaps.  It was the tarring of Clarence Thomas that turned Breitbart into the up and coming powerhouse he is today.

Posted by: Derak at November 06, 2009 03:43 PM (sx1ot)

173 Mama Winger - the POTUS does not care about the soldiers or the country or any of us. Neither do his hardcore followers. They hate America and all it stands for. And the best thing we can do to this awful presidency is vote in Conservatives in 2010 to bring him to a halt.

Posted by: Def Leppard at November 06, 2009 03:43 PM (hIOnV)

174

Maybe, just maybe, someone will wake up to the fact that if somebody starts advocating that infidels get their heads cut off and have oil poured down their throats, you should watch them just a little more closely than you would someone who doesn't say those things?

It'd be even better if this was the incident that finally stopped the multiculturalism movement in this country.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 06, 2009 03:44 PM (ZGhSv)

Posted by: joe at November 06, 2009 03:44 PM (p302b)

176

If only there were some clue to the motivations of a man who, after a history of attraction to Islamic jihadism and open support for suicide bombers, shot down dozens of American soldiers while screaming "Allahu Akbar."

Nah, you're right...this must just be another routine example of the pathology of our military.  No other pattern could possible explain these totally random, disconnected data points.  

I say we just blame Bush and call it a day.  

Incidentally, I wonder how coy the media would be about "jumping to conclusions" if this had been some sort of fundamentalist Christian pro-lifer screaming "praise Jesus" as he gunned people down.  /sarc

Posted by: wrg at November 06, 2009 03:44 PM (7t+Ws)

177 Call it jaywalking, for all I fucking care.  I'm just waiting.


I understand.  It's semantics in many ways, but I think it's important to keep clear exactly what the nature of terrorism is. Mostly because I don't want it blurred from the other direction by those that seek to define attacks like 9/11 as legitimate resistance. I too would like the media to call it as it is though, rather than wringing their hands over how much angst this poor guy must have been feeling.

(Similarly, the attack on the pentagon at the time is, as a matter of definition, distinct from the other actions on that day in that it targeted a military command center. That the attackers acted as they did makes them "unlawful combatants", legally, rather than "terrorists.")

Regardless, they all deserve the 72 virgin goats they are promised.

Posted by: ef at November 06, 2009 03:44 PM (+5ndY)

178

Those who served and died do not seem to have dampened his enthusiasm for himself. - Mama Winger

You nailed it.

 


Posted by: Cheri at November 06, 2009 03:44 PM (G+Wff)

179 On the "terrorist attack" thing:

Fuck you ef

Posted by: Todd (the guy who is back to saying Obama sucks cock) at November 06, 2009 03:46 PM (LLOGQ)

180

The thing that gets me is the MSM is so damn anxious to tag folks in the military with the old Vietnam labels of KillKrazyPsychotic/TraumatizedChildlikeVictim.  And why that gets me is that PTSD and related issues are real problems, but the focus from the MSM isn't meant to inform, but to sensationalize and use them for their political narrative.  Like the number of suicides (NOT suicide rates), assaults/murders (NOT assault/murder rates), etc.  They're building a case for Vietnamizing the GWOT, and this is just another step for them. 

Bad MSM!  No market share!

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at November 06, 2009 03:47 PM (30xKW)

181

President Obama:

During your campaign, Americans watched as you made mockery of our tradition of standing and crossing your heart when the Pledge of Allegiance was spoken. You, out of four people on the stage, were the only one not honoring our tradition.

During one of your many speeches, Americans heard you say that  you intended to visit all 57 states.

We all know that Islam, not America has 57 states.

When President Bush leaned over at Ground Zero and gently placed a flower on the memorial, while you nonchalantly tossed your flower onto the pile without leaning over.

Every time you apologized to other countries for America  's position on an issue we have wondered why you don't share our  pride in this great country. When you have heard foreign leaders berate our country and our beliefs, you have not defended us. In  fact, you insulted the British Crown beyond belief.

When your pastor of 20 years, "God-damned America " and said  that 9/11 was " America 's chickens coming home to roost"  and you denied having heard recriminations of that nature, we  wondered how that could be. You later disassociated yourself from that church and Pastor Wright because it was politically expedient to do so.

When you announced that you would transform America ,  we wondered why. With all her faults, America is the greatest country on earth. Sir, KEEP THIS IN MIND, "if not for   America and the people who built her, you wouldn't be sitting in the White House now." Prior to your election to the highest office in this Country, you were a senator from Illinois and  from what we can glean from the records available, not a very  remarkable one.

All through your campaign and even now, you have surrounded yourself with individuals who are basically unqualified for  the positions for which you appointed them. Worse than that, the  majority of them are people who, like you, bear no special allegiance, respect, or affection for this country and her  traditions.

Posted by: wrg at November 06, 2009 03:48 PM (7t+Ws)

182

87 I wonder if Fox gave Greta a talking to after yesterday's program. I couldn't believe she was the one sounding like the voice of anti-excuse reason.

 

I was thinking the same thing...when Hasan's cousin was whining about the alleged "harassment" she skeptically cocked her head and pointed out that he is a "Major not a Pvt in boot camp."  After suffering through all the hyperventilating from stupid Shep I did a double take.

Posted by: muggedbyreality at November 06, 2009 03:49 PM (Kpo6x)

183 Obama doesn't want us jumping to conclusions?  Wrong. Obama doesn't want us, through reasoned thinking and examination of facts, to ever arrive at a VERY SPECIFIC CONCLUSION.  To avoid that one particular conclusion at all costs, is what he means.

Even if this guy admits that he did it for Allah, for the Umma, the Caliphate, and cites the hundreds of relevant verses in the Koran, the examples set by Mohammed and recorded in the Sira, and the teachings of his mosque from the Hadith, we still must NOT arrive at this particular conclusion which Obama is alluding to.

We must blame the Army, Bush,come up with "PreTSD", ambient racism in TX, Global Climate Change, and angry white conservative people.

But never arrive through reason and truth at a logical conclusion.  That would be "jumping".

Posted by: Taqiyy. at November 06, 2009 03:50 PM (ltfED)

Posted by: joe at November 06, 2009 03:52 PM (p302b)

185 Over at LGF, I see Charles hasn't yet used his old catch-phrase "Religion of Peace Strikes Again!" in relation to this story.

http://tinyurl.com/lgfropsa

Posted by: DaveG at November 06, 2009 03:53 PM (udx6V)

186 *ahem* Your Christian faith! Your Christian faith.

Posted by: George Stephanopolopolopolopoulos at November 06, 2009 03:53 PM (DtTM9)

187 Hey guy, I'm 14 years deep into an Army career.  I'm addressing a question that many are asking. If you feel better calling him a terrorist than a traitor, go ahead.  I'm speaking to the legal definitions of each.  I don't think it puts him in any better light to define the attack properly. Lack of clarity over what these sort of terms mean is what lets leftist assholes avoid calling a spade a spade.

Posted by: ef at November 06, 2009 03:53 PM (+5ndY)

188 I'm starting to worry about Va Tech

Posted by: dagny at November 06, 2009 03:53 PM (2vtOS)

189

Janet Napolitano warned us about Muslims serving as American soldiers and their ability to use their training against fellow soldiers in that DHS memo back in...

Huh?

Not Muslim soldiers?

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The Dickens you say.

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Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 06, 2009 03:53 PM (aEgRp)

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Sorry I don't have the link, but find it if you can. Ralph tears into the Army and wants heads to roll in the "maggot's chain of command."

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The president was smoking pot with his friends in college over the weekend, while real men wear in the field training to save their asses.

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Maybe if Obama can get some kind of oil deal going with Libya, he could arrange that...

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A read of Joe Medicine Crow's bio and WWII service proves he was a tough guy when he was young. CIB, Bronze Star, a good track record as an infantry scout and point man in the 103rd Division. As a fire team leader, I would have been happy to have him.

Too bad he had to be seen in public with Preznit Toonces.

 

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Trust me, I'll let you know if this was a case of jihadism in the military.  You can always count on CNN to deliver the facts in an unbiased and thoughtful manner.

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Posted by: Obama and the reporters at November 06, 2009 05:41 PM (uwfIT)

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It may not be getting as much play as you'd like but it's getting much more attention than that "pet goat" reading did immediately after 9/11. The media is still in love with Obama - but not as much as they were a few months ago.

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