1 This terrorist was also on Hussein's transition team....a Homeland Security adviser.

2 This terrorist was also on Hussein's transition team....a Homeland Security adviser.

No.  Way.

3 #1: Hussein sure can pick 'em.

4 The man was a psychiatrist; now it's well known among us non psychiatrists that a lot of those guys get into the profession because they are one Fruit Loop shy of a bowl.  But WTF--this dud(e) is an Army major running around dressed up in full camel driver kit?  Isn't that strange, even for a pyschiatrist?

5 #1 Evidence?

6 What, the fucker was BORN here and he still hung around in that nightie and cap? Not exactly acculturated, after 40 years.

7 I was curious about #1... quick google search produced this:

http://tinyurl.com/ygg54rf

Fom the link:
"The gunman who killed 12 people today at Ft. Hood appears, based on current media reports, to be Army psychiatrist Nidal Hasan who was listed as a participant in a Homeland Security Policy Institute's presidential transition task force last year.

The task force was not officially affiliated with the White House. It was a project of the Homeland Security Policy Institute, an independent thinktank housed at George Washington University, aimed at drafting policy recommendations for the incoming Obama administration."

8 Since when do Muslims have problems with killing other Muslims?

9 I notice there's no mention of "sudden jihad syndrome" over at CJs place (where the term was first coined, IIRC).

But this is pretty much a textbook case of SJS if ever I've speculated about one.

10

feel like we are being setup from within.

11 8 Since when do Muslims have problems with killing other Muslims?

That only applies when the killers aren't muslims.  Muslims can kill anyone they want.  It's only us stinking infidels that can't kill muslims.

12 I'm kinda thinking Matt Drudge and Ace are on a joint hobo eradication mission tonight, given the *ahem* state of things. Thank allah for Dave and Drew and etc.

13 I watched this. My favorite part is when the reporter on the phone says the scumbag went to Friday prayers regularly or something and Cooper just goes....huh..like shrugged shoulder disbelief kind of huh...or more like hmmhmm!.

14

The task force was not officially affiliated with the White House. It was a project of the Homeland Security Policy Institute, an independent thinktank housed at George Washington University, aimed at drafting policy recommendations for the incoming Obama administration."

 

Ever notice how nothing  or noone is ever officially affiliated with this White House?!!

15 Crap.

This dude's gonna make us work hard on this one.

Um, let's see. His nuts needed a good air flow?

16 Number 10, the reason you feel that way is because, we are.

17 Since when do Muslims have problems with killing other Muslims?
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Since it was done for the sake of non-Muslim values (peace, freedom, equality, prosperity, opportunity, etc).

18 Did they ever straighten out whether there were others involved or not?

19 We'd been hearing for hours today that the man was a recent convert, and that he was killed after/while going on his rampage.

Neither of these "facts" turned out to be true.  He's a lifelong Muslim, very much alive at this point.  Other than that, I'm done with him.  Try him and fry him.  Now it's time to find a way to help the families and the survivors. 

20 Standard "garb"?  Does anyone know about this? Does this outfit signify sect? Or a particular ethnicity? Or a particular mosque?  Is this a universal uniform?  White mean anything?  curious.

21 His nuts needed a good air flow?

Posted by: MSM
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Actually, it's too damn bad he wasn't Black. Then we could do what we always do: blame White people.

22 From what I have been reading about this murdering SOB, he did not exactly disguise his sentiments.

So, essentially, we paid this guy to murder us.

Nice work, Feds.

23 This is obviously racist.

24 On CNN they're analyzing him as if he was a loser kid who shot up his school because his feelings were hurt. fucking eh.

25 Posted by: Derak at November 06, 2009 12:42 AM (sx1ot)
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That there is a simple hang-around-the-house outfit. Nothing special. Look for meaning in other places, such as the fact that a native-born American was so into his precious I Den Ti Tee that he dressed like Halloween every day.

26 Let's see has a problem killing other muslims but no problem at all killing Americans. Yep, call it whatever you want I call it Jihad.

27 New mosque in my town as of this summer.  The finishing touch was to chain link the entire compound/parking lot all topped off with barbed wire. 

It projects such a fuzzy, sacred warmth.

28 16 Number 10, the reason you feel that way is because, we are.

Posted by: rawmuse at November 06, 2009 12:39 AM (GHATK)

Indeed we are.

29

Shep on Fox mentioned that he was pissed cause he was called a raghead, bullshit bullshit bullshit, that did not happen,.  political correctness caused these deaths, pure and simple.

Anyone calling him that would have had their asses handed to them. Good grief.

30

Sockpuppet off.

 

 

(Does anyone care?)

31 The racist Army laundry returned the wrong clothes?

32 Wait a second, you mean, when you join the Army, people call you names? Like for instance drill instructors who call you pussies, losers, fags, porch monkeys, wops, kikes, crackers, and worse?

Funny thing, I never heard of that happening in the Army.

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33 32 Wait a second, you mean, when you join the Army, people call you names? Like for instance drill instructors who call you pussies, losers, fags, porch monkeys, wops, kikes, crackers, and worse?

Funny thing, I never heard of that happening in the Army.

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Posted by: rawmuse at November 06, 2009 12:49 AM (GHATK)

 

Those are ok, but can't upset the always upset muslims. They will kill you for this shit, ya know.

34
This video proves it was the twinkies that made him do it. Nothing to do with izlam. That's his defense and he'll be sticking to it.
He did it fo da twinkies, twinkies
He did it fo da twinkies, twinkies

35 Can you imagine that getup after he mistakenly lets some red socks get in the washer load?

36

Fucking WaPo is trying to spin this already. Pointing out that Ft. Hood has the highest number of suicides (It stands to reason that the largest army base might have the highest number of suicides, just by sheer numbers), and claiming that those who treate people with PTSD develop symptoms themselves. With the headline "Fort Hood has felt the strain of repeated deployments," as if this conveniently excuses all this asshole did. 

I'm feeling even worse learning this piece of shit survived.  I'm sure he'll only get a few years in prison, or plead insanity.  And I'm sure the ALCU and CAIR have already gotten his legal counsel in place. 

37 For some reason my article will not post, sorry!

38 Tim Blair: For someone terrified of combat, Hasan has an unusual way of showing it.

39 36

Fucking WaPo is trying to spin this already.

Well Shep did this some time ago, in fact he was probably the first.. Why is he on Fox? He belongs on the state run media outlets!!

40 Combat kind of requires both sides be armed.

41 Wait a second, you mean, when you join the Army, people call you names? Like for instance drill instructors who call you pussies, losers, fags, porch monkeys, wops, kikes, crackers, and worse?

Funny thing, I never heard of that happening in the Army.
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The Army? I thought you were talking about my grade school.

42 "On CNN they're analyzing him as if he was a loser kid who shot up his school because his feelings were hurt. fucking eh."

This should tick him off when he recovers and will backfire on the legacy media in that he will be more likely to set the record straight and we will get the full story.

43 For some reason my article will not post, sorry!
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pam, you mean the one in your name? I see it just fine. The Bob McCarty thing?

44 "Alleged gunman"

45 He will only spin lies when he recovers.  Lies to the infidels.  He will never reveal his underlying motivation, kuffars.  It does nothing to advance the "religion of peace".  He was bullied. And CAIR is probably camping outside the hospital door, waiting for first contact.  Move along now.....

46 God forbid we profile anybody. You all know crazy Christians and old ladies are really the ones doing all the killings!!

47 No offense, Dave, but why the hell is anybody still referring to this pimple on the ass of humanity by a rank he obtained in the military he just attacked?

Traitors generally don't wear uniforms at their executions, after all. A last name is sufficient.

48 Hey now, there is no reason to profile based on his "traditional garb" you racists.

49  Hasan was the victim. I would imagine by now the post is swamped with ACLU lawyers and Code Pinkos.

50 How in the fuck does a total piece of shit like this achieve the rank of Major?

Who the fuck promoted him?

51 Well at least the dc sniper will soon find out who he was fighting for.

52 Standard "garb"?  Does anyone know about this? Does this outfit signify sect? Or a particular ethnicity? Or a particular mosque?  Is this a universal uniform?  White mean anything?  curious.

Derak, That's what I noticed too.  Anderson Cooper cannot bring himself to say "traditional muslim garb."  He kept saying the phrase "traditional garb."  Frickin unbelievable.  CNN's newsreaders are so stinking PC, they can't even say the word "muslim" .  Yeesh!

53 God forbid we profile anybody. You all know crazy Christians and old ladies are really the ones doing all the killings!!

Yeah, isn't this just unbelievable?  And the scary thing is, look who's running our government.  People that see right wingers and tea partyers and Christians as the greatest threat to the free world.  What kind of screwed up world is this?   The Democrats like to act like 9/11 never happened. 

54 They profiled vets as being potential terrorists, as well. Consider the source.

55 The MSM can spin all they want. Fort Hood is the largest damn military installation in the world. Of course it has the most of anything you can think of.

56 How in the fuck does a total piece of shit like this achieve the rank of Major?

Who the fuck promoted him?

He was not a REAL officer, he's a doctor and doctor's get promoted without any significant review.  Doctors start out as Captains so its not like he had even 10 years experience in the military nor had a real promotion board.

57 53 God forbid we profile anybody. You all know crazy Christians and old ladies are really the ones doing all the killings!!

Yeah, isn't this just unbelievable?  And the scary thing is, look who's running our government.  People that see right wingers and tea partyers and Christians as the greatest threat to the free world.  What kind of screwed up world is this?   The Democrats like to act like 9/11 never happened. 

Posted by: runningrn at November 06, 2009 01:20 AM (qP2BK)

 

Well Law & Order says it is so, so it must be!!

58 It doesn't take much for a medical doctor to make Major in the military.  They achieve Captain (0-3) out of med school.  Major is merely the next rank.

59

And for the second time tonight on Fox according to shep, I have to listen to the cousin of this piece of shit say he was a true American, God help us!!

 

Why is Fox  running this same bs?

60 #43 Yep, the Bob McCarthy one.....lol, I have no idea how it ended up there??

Good grief, I had better study up on how to post links here.

Sorry again!

61 The flaming skull thread about Hasan being still alive has some good answers to some questions here.

62 CNN reporting on more postings by Hasan talking about the "nobility" of suicide bombers, I didn't write them down in time but if somebody else did, perhaps they can share.

63 61 The flaming skull thread about Hasan being still alive has some good answers to some questions here.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 06, 2009 01:32 AM (zmiSr

Well, it is a sad day when this mf'r did not die. Sorry, kinda pissed the warning signs were so out there, but ignored because of the pc bullshit in this country. It will be our downfall if we don't get it together!!

 

 See Europe!!!!!

64

Great comment by Holger about the situation:

We lost 12 soldiers today .... 12 soldiers died today IN America....12 soldiers died today without their guns.

http://tinyurl.com/ye7uea8

 

65 BTW, every military doctor I've ever known prefers the title of "Doctor" rather than his/her rank.  Let's not give this a**hole ANY title as he doesn't rate either title of Major or Doctor.

THE BIG STORY should be how a psychiatrist/doctor premeditated murdered US soldiers going to war to protect the US because of his religious  beliefs, NOT that a military officer didn't want to go to war.

The AMA (and who ever accredited this guy) should be concerned with their screening process just as much if not MORE than the military (although, they definitely have some questions to answer)

66 We must understand the anger that drove him to do this, then address his grievances.

67 Well rachael maddow has a guy on that says he was crazy, so nothing to see here!!!

68

I think that Hasan has some answers that we need.  His man-dress and head doiley scream "one of a dedicated group". My guess is that if the proper questions are asked the proper way, we will get the answers we need.

There seems a very slim chance that Hasan was "helped" just a bit; helped to get religion, helped to hate America, helped to get radical, etc.  There's probably a cleric or two, and maybe a few other mosque members, that are up to their eyeballs in this. We need to know who they are. 

We can't let Hasan claim to be a victim.  He migh have been manipulated a bit, but not to the point that he was controlled, or even became unaware that he was being manipulated. He achieved a degree in biochemistry, so it's clear that he's smart. He knew what he was doing.  We need to get the one or two or three others. 

69 68

I think that Hasan has some answers that we need.  His man-dress and head doiley scream "one of a dedicated group". My guess is that if the proper questions are asked the proper way, we will get the answers we need.

There seems a very slim chance that Hasan was "helped" just a bit; helped to get religion, helped to hate America, helped to get radical, etc.  There's probably a cleric or two, and maybe a few other mosque members, that are up to their eyeballs in this. We need to know who they are. 

We can't let Hasan claim to be a victim.  He migh have been manipulated a bit, but not to the point that he was controlled, or even became unaware that he was being manipulated. He achieved a degree in biochemistry, so it's clear that he's smart. He knew what he was doing.  We need to get the one or two or three others. 

Posted by: Arbalest at November 06, 2009 01:47 AM (Ym9lj)

Yep!! Or three billion!!

70 Sorry, might have over-stated my last estimate, tee hee!!

71 nothing to see here

move along

72 "I think that Hasan has some answers that we need.  His man-dress and head doiley scream "one of a dedicated group". My guess is that if the proper questions are asked the proper way, we will get the answers we need."

Absolutely.

On a totally unrelated note: I'll admit that, as an agnostic, I'm getting pretty damn willing to judge religions based on how they act.

Yeah, I'm looking at you, religion-of-peacers.  Worst thing a Christian has done to me as a Christian in the last few years was tell me I could get into a baseball game at a discount if I brought canned goods for the food pantry.

They don't really compare well, do they?

73 The only thing wrong with this guy is that there is insufficient lead in his system
 

74

What !? Muslims want to kill Americans?

Who knew?

75

Charlie Gibson...

I knew.

76 THE BIG STORY should be how a psychiatrist/doctor premeditated murdered US soldiers going to war to protect the US because of his religious  beliefs, NOT that a military officer didn't want to go to war.
Posted by: JFH at November 06, 2009 01:37 AM (DkCuG)

As a shrink, he would not have "gone to war" anyway. He was to be deployed, yes, but he would have had a nice little office on whatever large base he went to. He would never have had to go outside the wire.

77

Well Law & Order says it is so, so it must be!!

Posted by: lou at November 06, 2009 01:24 AM (UbWbu)

Tell me about it.  If I hadn't watched Law & Order, I would have never known how many rednecks are in the NYC area.

78 One can easily imagine Baker et al in the footwear of the contemporary designers on view at the exhibit: towering snakeskin boots by Jimmy Choo, beaded black-and-orange lace-up Manolo Blahnik sandals, and the wickedly high-beaded
<a  href="http://www.christianlouboutinshoesmart.com/">Christian Louboutin</a> pumps made even sassier with their signature red soles. Great shoes transcend eras.

79 Night All.

80 Honestly, this would likely have never happened if they'd just made the base a gun free zone. /sarc

81 It's funny to hear Muslims talk about other Muslims becoming "too religious".  If a Christian becomes too religious, he just gets really annoying.  Same with most other religions except Global Warming, Communism and Islam.

When Muslims say a relative got "too religious" they're scared of him.

82 Does this kind of shit surprise people anymore?  Years ago it would have sickened me.  Now it just seems like par for the course.  I expect it to happen every so often, like we know we should expect it.  Our system is just not set up to prevent crimes and justice is vauge. 

83

That garb would look better tie dyed. Just sayin'.

84

Has to be the world record:  milking a few seconds of worthless video into an eight minute report.

Next we'll have a reinactment of Hasan using American toilet paper.

85 Hope they aren't pre-empting Red Eye.

86 Dave in Texas likes men in dresses, huh.

87

I went into this thinking he had to pull a gun and rob the store or something.  Nope.  We get to watch Hasan buy a latte, two bearclaws, and a pack of Big Red.  Over and over.

Notice that bastard didn't pick up any napkins.  Eh?  I'm tellin' ya.

88

Next we'll have a reinactment of Hasan using American toilet paper.

Posted by: The Most Interesting Hirsute Man In the World (rdb) at November 06, 2009 02:53 AM (mkihu)

That would be un-Islamic.

89 They're pre-empting Red Eye.  Shit.

90

How in the fuck does a total piece of shit like this achieve the rank of Major?

Who the fuck promoted him?- Lemmiwinks at November 06, 2009 01:15 AM (IqfKc)

When I graduated from Nursing School a few years back (RN), the army tried to recruit me, offering me 2nd Lieutenant just to enlist.  This joker has been in the Army for several years and has his PhD- so I can see it.

91  So...do you know where your local mosque is located? (aka, militant muslim  armory)

 

 

 

92 ’†ŒأDVD

93 From what I was hearing on the news earlier tonight, sounds to me like this guy was planning this in case he lived.  Setting up claims of harassment, complaining about being sent overseas, etc... in order to claim mental illness and get out of the death penalty.
I, for one, am glad he survived.  Now he can get put to trial and hopefully get the just punishment for his actions - death.  Too many of these bastards get off with a quick end.

94

50 How in the fuck does a total piece of shit like this achieve the rank of Major?
Who the fuck promoted him?

Army doctors usually start out as Captain (O-3). Considering Hasan's been in the Army for at least 10 years, has a PHD and other medical credentials, and is only a Major (O-4), I'd lay money he's been passed over for promotion at least once. He should be at least an LTC (O-5) by now.

95

Not much difference between this pile of crap and Billy Ayers.

Go figure.

96 ""The only thing wrong with this guy is that there is insufficient lead in his system""


Yeah, he needs about 230 grains right in the fucking forehead.



Maybe I missed it if somebody else suggested it, but I think its time to purge the military of these pricks.Fuck'em where they breath. I had a cab driver tell me less than a week after 9-11 that if his "religion" called on him to start shooting americans he would. I don't trust any of the fuckers.

97

Derak @ 20:

Standard "garb"?  Does anyone know about this? Does this outfit signify sect? Or a particular ethnicity? Or a particular mosque?  Is this a universal uniform?  White mean anything?  curious.

My guess is that Anderson Cooper consciously shortened "standard Muslim garb" to "standard garb" to avoid referring to the, treacherous, cowardly piece of shit as a "Muslim".  You know, "The Narrative" and all.  What a sad day for those killed and injured and their families.  What a sad day for this country.

 

98 sock test

99 Just woke up, can't believe the goatfucker's still alive.

But he got winged by a woman?  God has a sense of humor.

100 So, I go to bed and Dr. Goathumper is dead.  I wake up and he's alive. Where's the rope?

101 13 now dead. Douchenozzle is on a ventilator with 4 holes in him.  Wonder if he whistles?

102 Oh, and he gave all his shit away before the attack.  No warning signs here.  Move along.

103 But WTF--this dud(e) is an Army major running around dressed up in full camel driver kit? Isn't that strange, even for a pyschiatrist?
Posted by: Happy Fellow at November 06, 2009 12:25 AM (w6nDa)

yeah most of us majors usually wear a dress and pumps?

104 Oh, and he gave all his shit away before the attack. No warning signs here. Move along.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 06, 2009 06:06 AM (5Xf3c)


Yeah i saw that and that was my first thought also. But then he was being deployed, so ya never know. But there were certainly plenty of warning signs anyway

105 Where's the rope?

He's a soldier. Waterboard him.

106

Army Major Played Role in Presidential Transition
Incredibly, it appears that Maj. Malik Nidal Hasan, the alleged shooter in the massacre that resulted in at least 12 dead and 31 wounded at Fort Hood today, served on the Homeland Security Policy Institute’s presidential transition task force between April 2008 and January 2009 when Barack Obama was inaugurated as the nation’s 44th president.

107 Where's the rope?

He's a soldier. Waterboard him.

Posted by: fluffy at November 06, 2009 06:45 AM (SwkdU)

Agreed.  Waterboard him, hang him, feed him to the pigs.  The plan of action is set.

108 I can only hope that this is a wake-up call to the remaining doubters that we are in a cultural fight against an evil ideology.

109 I can only hope that this is a wake-up call to the remaining doubters that we are in a cultural fight against an evil ideology.
Posted by: scrubjay at November 06, 2009 06:54 AM (fKFPG)

Wishful thinking. I think it will take a US City disappearing before that will ever happen

110 I can only hope that this is a wake-up call to the remaining doubters that we are in a cultural fight against an evil ideology.

Yeah, wishful thinking.  I already got a snootful of "how DARE you think he was less of an American than you because his last name wasn't Smith" on Facebook this morning.

No, he's less of an American than I am because he committed treason by shooting up an Army base, and what I said was "I'm glad his name wasn't Smith, because our troops get enough hate and slime thrown at him by the media and the left already."  I'm so sick of the "they're all mentally-ill baby-killers and rapists!" bullshit on the front page of the NY Slimes, I'm not going to apologize for being relieved that they're still wrong.

111 Wishful thinking. I think it will take a US City disappearing before that will ever happen

Nah, even then, it'll be OUR FAULT because of ROOT CAUSES.

112 Agreed. Waterboard him, hang him, feed him to the pigs. The plan of action is set.

Hannibal Lecter skipped that middle step.

113 And our fault because Reagan gave some group nukes in the 1980s or we didn't spend enough on international aid or we sent our troops somewhere to stabilize a situation when we were invited to do so or...

114 http://tinyurl.com/3w78gn

115
The treasonous terrorist is still alive.

Good. I want him to have a slow, painful recovery. Then he'll stand trial. And his name will be in the news for a long long time.

Why is that good? Because if there is no trial, the Lefty terrorist-sympathizers and their friends in the media can sweep this whole mess under the rug, which would easily work because we have such a short attention span nowadays. It only took eight years to forget about 9/11.

116 Why is that good? Because if there is no trial, the Lefty terrorist-sympathizers and their friends in the media can sweep this whole mess under the rug, which would easily work because we have such a short attention span nowadays. It only took eight years to forget about 9/11.
Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses at November 06, 2009 07:09 AM (Szkjn)

EXCEPT--remember this POS Holder might be doing the prosecution?

117 EXCEPT--remember this POS Holder might be doing the prosecution?

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 06, 2009 07:13 AM (TfW4T)

I would suggest that Mr. Holder not get in the way of the efficient operation of the UCMJ as regards this fuckstick.  Then waterboard, hang him, and feed him to the pigs.

118 EXCEPT--remember this POS Holder might be doing the prosecution?

Crime committed by Army personnel on an Army base.

Court Martial

119
Then Holder gets exposed. The more this muslim's name is in the news, the better. And anyone who spins for him or defends him will expose themselves for who they really are.

120 EXCEPT--remember this POS Holder might be doing the prosecution?

Crime committed by Army personnel on an Army base.

Court Martial
Posted by: Mason Verger at November 06, 2009 07:16 AM (SwkdU)

Can you say " Bring the Gitmo scum to America and civilian courts"?

121
'curious' posted in another thread that CAIR issued a statement "Urging Calm."

Translation: "Sit back and relax while we kill you, infidels."

I'm not exaggerating; that is what they're really saying. And they're laughing their asses off at us because we're handcuffed to political correctness.

122
If you remember, the 9/11 hijackers told the airplane passengers to be calm, everything will be okay.

Remember that?

Isn't that sick?

123 I don't know why the military, or anybody else, uses lethal injection.  This attempt to sanitize civilized barbarity is a symptom of societal mental illness.  After all, we can't seem to bring ourselves to put a bullet in Khalid Sheikh Muhammad's head.  Where's the will to deliver justice?

(And I'm officially opposed to the death penalty except in political cases.  Treason, war crimes, etc.)

124 (And I'm officially opposed to the death penalty except in political cases. Treason, war crimes, etc.)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 06, 2009 07:24 AM (5Xf3c)

What about "shot while trying to escape"? Wink,nod.

125
What's this? That part of Ft Hood was a gun-free zone?

ARE YOU FUCKING SHITTING ME?

126 Which would be tougher for the MSM to say:  that this is "terrorism" or that this is "an act of war"?

127

The media will do all it can, as will the Left, to distract Americans from the essential truth - that Islam breeds this behavior and is the true root cause.  But I think that the reality is not lost on the average, non-muslim, non-Leftist American.  If an effective pogrom could be initiated against those slime, few would stand to oppose it.  And any who did oppose being rid of the muslims should be considered an enemy of the US and subject to the same removal.

Alas - I fear it will take many more horrible incidents before the anger wells up strongly enough to motivate folks to take action.  And as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow we will see those horrible incidents here, and with ever increasing frequency.

128 What about "shot while trying to escape"? Wink,nod.

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 06, 2009 07:27 AM (TfW4T)

"Sir, he strapped himself to that post so he could pole-vault over the wall.  Me and the guys were just fooling around, having some waffles, when our rifles went off.  Simultaneously.  Twice."

"Very good.  Carry on."

129 Which would be tougher for the MSM to say:  that this is "terrorism" or that this is "an act of war"?

That he's muslim.

130 What's this? That part of Ft Hood was a gun-free zone?

ARE YOU FUCKING SHITTING ME?


Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses at November 06, 2009 07:28 AM (Szkjn)

Continental United States Military bases are pretty much like your local neighborhoods. No Weapons allowed. Actually the rules are maybe even stricter in many cases, spefically in Medical facilities.

131 I can haz purge uv rankz, now?

132 I agree with "the reality is not lost on the average, non-muslim, non-Leftist American." As a heruistic I think 20% of the population consists of the head in the sand, any criticism of Islam is racism, etc; they happen to be a very vocal minority as we well know. The remaining 80%, at minimum, know that there is a disturbing correlation between Muslims and terrorism. 40% know we're actually in the long war (IMHO). The media possess a ton of power, still.

133
No Weapons allowed.

Interesting. What do they call it, the Sitting Duck rule?

134 132 I can haz purge uv rankz, now?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 06, 2009 07:33 AM

That would be a fine start, but a purge of the nation should be the real goal.

135 No Weapons allowed.

Interesting. What do they call it, the Sitting Duck rule?


Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses at November 06, 2009 07:36 AM (Szkjn)

Hey I'd love to be able to be armed on Base.

136 When's the last time the US Army ordered an execution as consequences for the verdict of a court martial?

137

Posted by: Derak at November 06, 2009 12:42 AM (sx1ot)

It is an Arab dress for certain.

This should have been a red flag. Arab guys in the US don't wear this dress unless ideologically attuned if you know what I mean.

138

"No, he's less of an American than I am because he committed treason by shooting up an Army base, "

His cousin kept saying "he was a good american" constantly over and over again. Yeah, good americans don't shoot up an army base, you piece of shit.

139 Hasan accounted his birth in the US.

Last night I heard he was of Syrian ancestry. This morning TX Congressman referenced him as Jordanian. He tried to pass himself off as Palestinian at his mosque in Silver Springs MD. His former imam reported him as a life-long Muslim; so much for the rumor that he was a "convert" unless we're talking "born again" Muslim conversion.

Hasan attended prayers regularly when he lived outside Washington, often in his Army uniform, said Faizul Khan, a former imam at a mosque Hasan attended in Silver Spring, Md. He said Hasan was a lifelong Muslim.

"I got the impression that he was a committed soldier," Khan said. He spoke often with Hasan about Hasan's desire for a wife.

On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine."

Nothing stood out about Hasan as radical or extremist, Khan said. "We hardly ever got to discussing politics," Khan said. "Mostly we were discussing religious matters, nothing too controversial, nothing like an extremist."

So much for WHAT "mostly" stands out as radical or extremist amongst religious Muslims. 

So much for WHAT stands out in particular as radical extremist to the Feds. Muslim Americans given a free pass. Look at the results of that policy. According to Hasan's statements made in public, in face to face arguments and internet postings, he should have been court marshaled AT LEAST. TREASON within the ranks must be addressed by officials.

What we are witnessing, amongst other things, is the politically correct enforcement of "I'm OK, You're OK" acceptability of anti-American sentiment, sedition within the ranks being stroked by officials turning a blind eye. Such anxiety to coerce met its match with PREDICTABLE HORRIFIC TERRORISM.

To hear Hasan's cousin quoting Hasan's lame complaints at being "picked on" is to force feed puke on the public. So much for psychiatric help within the military when the doctor murders all. Hasan failed at Walter Reed where he should have helped soldiers heal, but instead made their psychiatric recuperation more difficult. He was transferred to Ft.Hood to help prepare soldiers before deployment for the difficulties ahead, and AS THE DOCTOR, he chose instead to MURDER UNARMED COMRADES/PATIENTS.

This is all on Obama's watch. This all took place under Obama's DHS, CIA, FBI, Pentagon Joint Chiefs of Staff and Dept. of Defense. And what was Obama's first on air response? PATHETIC to put it gently. Disgusting.

This is a set-up ploy to pull America out of the Middle East. And The Times jumped on that bandwagon to broadcast-publish first, making this an anti-American sentiment message, to blame Americans for Hasan's treason. Too convenient for Obama, supplying a tragedy stateside, taking American lives to convince Americans that they don't belong in the Middle East.

One thing has always been certain; the West will never be acceptable in Islam.

God rest the souls of all those taken. God bless the injured victims. God protect the families of our troops. God guide us and grant our leaders wisdom to protect our Constitution.

140 Yeah, good americans don't shoot up an army base, you piece of shit.

Posted by: eating narcissus at November 06, 2009 07:42 AM (4FkTt)

Especially not without a shit load of grain alcohol first?
/

141 "No, he's less of an American than I am because he committed treason by shooting up an Army base, "

There are no enemies in my world to give aid and comfort to, therefore, there is no such thing as treason.

142 @133  The remaining 80%, at minimum, know that there is a disturbing correlation between Muslims and terrorism. 40% know we're actually in the long war (IMHO). The media possess a ton of power, still.

Posted by: MRI at November 06, 2009 07:35 AM

The media is indeed the major obstacle to most positive reform in this country.  It is fortunate that they are working so hard to destroy their own credibility.  Perhaps the coverage of this incident will further illustrate to the average person that the media is in the tank for the vile muzzies and their treasonous sympathizers.  We can rely on the Islamists to keep coming back onto the news scene in a way that is not flattering to them.  Hopefully it will soon push the American people past the tipping point, such that the US can be made a much more hostile environment for the mohammedans, thereby discouraging any further immigration and hopefully sparking an exodus (or leading to some other, more active, removal project).

143 When's the last time the US Army ordered an execution as consequences for the verdict of a court martial?

Posted by: Tom in Korea at November 06, 2009 07:39 AM (+gX1+)

Hassan Akbar, I think.  Might've been a run-of-the-mill rapist/murderer type since.  9 men await execution on military death row.

144 Maybe I got your question wrong.  Last execution was 1961 of a murderer, back when we used rope and gravity instead of alcohol swabs and sweet, sweet potassium chloride.

145
Remember this: "We support the troops...who frag their officers."

Remember that sign held by the leftists at the A.N.S.W.E.R. protests/parades?

So yeah, when a American muslim calls another America muslim who just murdered 13 infidels of the Great Satan's army a "great American," it kinda makes sense insofar it tells us their idea of who makes a great American.

Hasan's cousin knows exactly what he's saying; his words are being chosen very carefully.

146 According to the D.C. Imam Khan, Hasan would wear military garb to prayers.

From the Killeen quickymart, Hasan wore Muslim dress with white cap.

Hasan enjoys being a contrarian in dress, attire, attitude, convictions, and actions; saboteur.

147 Why do we swab the vein with disinfectant? 

148 Like others I cannot believe military bases are basically "gun free" zones.  That is insane!  Any chance that rule will be changed after yesterday?

149 NO. But they might tighten security.

150

151

"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine."

Well, that makes sense because there is no Palestine. Lots of refugees who call themselves Palestinians live in different parts of the the Middle East.

152 Why do we swab the vein with disinfectant?

So we can re-use the needle? Very efficient, I suppose.  Cuts $1.69 from the Defense budget.

153 So, it seems it has been 48 years since the US Army executed anyone.  Time to change that.

154

Drudge still hasn't posted he is alive.

what the hell happened to drudge? has he been in a hospital for several months. Did he hire monkeys with typewriters to do his work?

 

155

 So, it seems it has been 48 years since the US Army executed anyone.  Time to change that.

 

really?? i find that hard to believe. does the army not execute for desertion in a time of war anymore?

156 Like others I cannot believe military bases are basically "gun free" zones.

For one thing, many residents of a base are not old enough to get carry permits if the legal age is 21.   Firearms are also routinely barred from places like the PX, the theaters, and the bowling alley even when soldiers are in from exercises.  Something about young males and alcohol, I think, even without ammunition.  Not saying here that no one should carry on base, but from a lifetime of experience there's been no need.  Until now.

157 Why do we swab the vein with disinfectant? 
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz

Cooties. Symbolic prevention of contamination onto the official touching the condemned.

Or simply a habitual practice to ease any inner conflict that the official performing the execution may have.

Why give them their last dinner or last smoke? Culturally, to prove how the guilty should have interacted with people, that we're better than the condemned with that 'generous' last gesture of humanity at the great send-off to Never Neverland.

It's a mark of distinction between the West and Islam that still crucifies, stones, and decapitates with rusty instruments.

After birth and matriculating through the finest educational opportunities within the USA, Hasan's inner angst just HAD to perform his chosen life's function as a self-aggrandized murderer.

Given he's still alive, what's going to happen?

158
Last night I wondered how many of our muslim "friends" in the Middle East were celebrating in the streets of their ghettos.

Any see any reports or videos of such events? I find it hard to believe it didn't happen, (even though Obama gave such an inspiring and apologetic and appeasing speech in Cairo).

159

"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine."

Well, that makes sense because there is no Palestine. Lots of refugees who call themselves Palestinians live in different parts of the the Middle East.

 

Just like I fill in Narnia for place of birth

160 Hmm...CNN says, "dressed in traditional garb." How [expletive deleted] ball-less can you get? Is that the "traditional garb" of soon to be mass murderers? Signed, Confused by testosterone-free reporters

161

Drudge still hasn't posted he is alive. what the hell happened to drudge? has he been in a hospital for several months. Did he hire monkeys with typewriters to do his work?--Posted by: Ben

After Obama specifically attacked Drudge and the US turned internet over to the UN supervision, the delay in postings.

162 Fox News is reporting that Hasan was yelling "Allah Akbar" as he opened fired. How did this whack job not get bounced out of the Army?

163
You're right; the weapon-free zones make sense. It is not us who has to change our rules. If we do that, the terrorists win.

What we must do is stop being afraid to speak up against radical or suspicious behavior by muslims. You know, instead of giving them promotions.

164

CNN IS TRIPPING ALL OVER ITSELF TO EXPLAIN THIS AS PTSD!

But he was never deployed, so that's bullshit. So now they're saying it's because he apparently "treated" people with PTSD. That too - bullshit! He wasn't even practicing for a year! Their effort to somehow explain why this guy did while completely avoiding religion is disgusting - regardless of this pic above.

165 Popcorn - Thanks for the insight.  I understand the "guns & alcohol" rule.  NO problem there.  But I think they may want to re-visit some of the other restrictions.

166
Remember when President Bush, the last good president we had, told us to be vigilant and report suspicious behavior and the leftwin moonbats such as the Democrats and CAIR and the ACLU went batshit crazy?

This blood is on their hands. They not only emboldened Hasan to do this, they fostered his behavior.

167 Fox News is reporting that Hasan was yelling "Allah Akbar" as he opened fired. How did this whack job not get bounced out of the Army?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 06, 2009 08:08 AM (Qjzz3)

BUT BUT BUT Geraldo thinks Muslims are just dandy soldiers

168 does the army not execute for desertion in a time of war anymore?

Here's what it takes to charge someone with desertion from the UCMJ:

Note the last sentence, indicating that death or some other punishment selected by the CM is appropriate.  Know also that sometimes, for the good of the service, lesser charges are used or a lesser punishment adjudged in order to avoid the very serious hassle that a death sentence for a soldier entails.  (Which I am fine with, BTW.)

885. ART. 85. DESERTION (a) Any member of the armed forces who-- (1) without authority goes or remains absent from his unit, organization, or place of duty with intent to remain away therefrom permanently; (2) quits his unit, organization, or place of duty with intent to avoid hazardous duty or to shirk important service; or (3) without being regularly separated from one of the armed forces enlists or accepts an appointment in the same or another on of the armed forces without fully disclosing the fact that he has not been regularly separated, or enters any foreign armed service except when authorized by the United States; is guilty of desertion. (b) Any commissioned officer of the armed forces who, after tender of his resignation and before notice of its acceptance, quits his post or proper duties without leave and with intent to remain away therefrom permanently is guilty of desertion. (c) Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct, but if the desertion or attempt to desert occurs at any other time, by such punishment, other than death, as a court-martial may direct.

169 #169 Sorry about the formatting.  It had paragraphs when I hit "post," so presumably they were eaten by the dog.

170 Only one Koran and only one way to interpet it. It won't work Muslims in the armed forces, this is a long drawn out war with terrorist. Is Mohamed going to cover when you go out on lead. What is so crazy during the Crusades their was a lot of land grabing during those times many Amirs fought onlong side Christians against other Amir Muslims for land. Look at Afghan same stuff one tribe against another. They can never ever be trusted.

171 The AP is reporting the "Allahu Akbar."  Someone get a screenshot of that before they scrub it.

172 Why do we swab the vein with disinfectant?

So we can re-use the needle? Very efficient, I suppose.  Cuts $1.69 from the Defense budget.
Posted by: Popcorn

Market value $1.69 = $169.00 Defense budget appraisal

173
How's Janet douchebag Napolitano feeling this morning?

Hasan doesn't fit her profile of domestic terrorist, at all. Hasan is muslim, leftwing, Obama-supporting, and never-deployed.

174 #174   File that under "Questions To Be Asked At My Fantasy Town Hall Meeting."

175
The MSM's next move: bring up the murder of Tiller in Kansas, to show that Christians do it, too.

176 The fuckin' ghouls at Huffpo are talking Karma! And actually sympathetic to "why" this fuck did what he did!

177
Karma? As in...

the chickennsssssssssssss are coming hommmmmmmmmme to roooost?

Yeah, what do you expect? The Left is no different from the muslims who hate us.

178 #178 actually, the left is worse. Certain cretins like Nidal remain surreptitious and dangerous. The left, however, make their absolute hostility and contempt known to all. In both cases we do nothing but just take it.

179 Is there any chance that as a result of this the military will take action against any other members of the military who are radical nutjobs like Hasan?

180 Off topic but unemployment now at 10.2 %. Great job Barry.

181

BREAKING NEWS: Funemployment hits 10.2%

182
In both cases we do nothing but just take it.

We do more than that; we finance it.

183 The fuckin' ghouls at Huffpo are talking Karma!


I guess it's safe to assume their sensitive, caring selves won't be contributing to the widows' and orphans' fund.

184

Foxnews.com currently has on their front page "Why did he do it?"  Underneath it mentions that he 'didn't want to deploy'.

Western Civilization is in denial.

185

I'm actually not all that surprised that Hasan was part of the Homeland Security Transition Team.

Its logical to include a psychiatrist who is immersed in the Arab American culture and speaks the language as someone who can provide valuable insights you might otherwise miss.

He may even have been pretty much loyal to the USA prior to his involvement in that task. Being exposed to radical preaching in that line of work is what may have brought him to Jihad. That is its purpose, after all.

Is he a victim, though? No.

186
And we need a thread on the mini-stimulus that puts us another $48B in the hole.

187

BREAKING NEWS: Funemployment hits 10.2%

jesus christ. this unemployment business will get out of control, it will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

188

>> No offense, Dave,..

 

Yeah, I take your point.  Pulled it from the headline.

189

I'm actually not all that surprised that Hasan was part of the Homeland Security Transition Team.

Its logical to include a psychiatrist who is immersed in the Arab American culture and speaks the language as someone who can provide valuable insights you might otherwise miss.

He may even have been pretty much loyal to the USA prior to his involvement in that task. Being exposed to radical preaching in that line of work is what may have brought him to Jihad. That is its purpose, after all.

Is he a victim, though? No.

I concur, but they don't have a less crazy muslim in the army?

190 Sorry about the formatting. It had paragraphs when I hit "post," so presumably they were eaten by the dog.

Not your fault. They've installed some new editing procedure on posts. It's annoying to say the least. Kinda has that "Chucks house" feel about it.

191

Also, I think we should give Abe Vigoda a .357 and let him shoot this SOB on national TV.

Mostly b/c Abe would make a funny after he did it and he hasn't had any gigs in awhile.

192 Reminds me of the 9/11 high jackers laughing and joking around in the ATM pictures prior to murderous deed. These devout muslims really think they are going to paradise. This one is headed to Leavenworth for some Tim McVeigh style justice.

193

Foxnews.com currently has on their front page "Why did he do it?"  Underneath it mentions that he 'didn't want to deploy'.

Western Civilization is in denial.

 

let's not be suprised. Motive is one of the first thing investigators look for in murder cases. This is common.

The question is will the media justify his motive?  I think we all know the answer to this one

194

The MSM's next move: bring up the murder of Tiller in Kansas, to show that Christians do it, too.

 

actually, there is a sealed envelope in a safe at every news station with the words "open in case of muslim terrorist attack" written on the front of it. There is a card inside that says "Timothy McVeigh". That is what the media Standard Operating Procedure manual calls for in these instances

195 10

feel like we are being setup from within.

But profiling is so wrong.

Jihadis don't even need to go underground, pretend they are christians or hide their sympathies. We are so PC that they can be open about it.

196 Foxnews.com currently has on their front page "Why did he do it?"  Underneath it mentions that he 'didn't want to deploy'.

Speaking of deployment, and if it's too early for this discussion please tell me to fuck off, how does the attack affect his unit's deployment?  Are they going to delay it, cancel it, send a unit from a different base, keep an existing unit over there longer?

Maybe it wasn't just bloodlust, maybe he was trying to screw up troop movements.

197 claiming that those who treate people with PTSD develop symptoms themselves.

A reporterette on CBS tried this tack with a psychiatrist expert this morning and the guy quickly shot her down.  He said that the problem was dealing with people who have PTSD from killing people that you sympathize with.  He said that, put together with the "Allahu Akhbar" shouts says that he was probably killing people who he thought were dangerous to his "friends."

198 Speaking of deployment, and if it's too early for this discussion please tell me to fuck off, how does the attack affect his unit's deployment? Are they going to delay it, cancel it, send a unit from a different base, keep an existing unit over there longer?

Maybe it wasn't just bloodlust, maybe he was trying to screw up troop movements.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 06, 2009 08:46 AM (NtiET)

I doubt it will effect it at all

199

187 And we need a thread on the mini-stimulus that puts us another $48B in the hole.

Hope you don't like US currency strength.

In the end, there will be only chaos.

/And damn Hasan for his treachery.  May his punishment be legendary! 

200 nevergiveup--Thanks.  That makes me feel a little better.

Meanwhile, the WaPo blames the Army.  *spit*

201 I hope to God he survives his injuries.  Stand trial, mofo, like a man. 

202 This just in: FBI, CIA, and LGF completely puzzled over the motives of the psychiatrist.

203

This video proves it was the twinkies that made him do it. Nothing to do with izlam. That's his defense and he'll be sticking to it.
He did it fo da twinkies, twinkies
He did it fo da twinkies, twinkies

Been there, done that.

204 Unfortunately the military seems to be afflicted with the same PC disease as the MSM or anyone else.How else do you explain his promotion to Major despite poor performance reviews,praise of suicide bombers and openly stating that he was opposed to fighting his fellow Muslims. If even our Military is forced to avert its eyes from reality for fear of offending Muslims how can we possibly defeat these Islamist scumbags.

205 So, the media is vilifying the voluntary Army because they have been deploying soldiers for action? And did they get the memo that the perp never did deploy?

just asking....

206

OK, since no one seems to be in charge here in the USA, I'll take it.

First order: New definition of " PC " -- Potentially Catastrophic.

Second order: Skeptical, pessimistic attitude required as of 1200 hrs today.     

 

207 claiming that those who treate people with PTSD develop symptoms themselves.

So - I suppose the psychiatrist that picked Jeffrey Dahmer's brain after Dahmer was in jail - now that doctor has a greater likelihood of becoming a mass-murderer. Or that interviewer that did hours of documentary interviews with mob hit-man, The Ice Man, will probably turn from interviewing criminals into a mob executioner himself. These justifiers suck hard.

208 How else do you explain his promotion to Major despite poor performance reviews,praise of suicide bombers and openly stating that he was opposed to fighting his fellow Muslims.

He's a doctor.  He entered as a captain and his promotion to major was a perfunctory exercise. No one has shown that his inclinations were public before his promotion, or that the promoting authority was, or should have been, aware of them.  Perhaps this will come to light, but as of now it has not. 

209

So, the media is vilifying the voluntary Army because they have been deploying soldiers for action? And did they get the memo that the perp never did deploy?

It gets worse. Hasan-Chop is said by the LameSM to have offered to repay the military for his training. Well, duh, that's what service in the military IS.

210 WTF? There are no weapons in a military base? In Israel he'd be shot in 2 sec.

211 There is no reason to believe this had anything to do with Islam - it's Christian Conservatives who pose the REAL danger to this country!

212 This PTSD by osmosis theory is total bullshit.If anything he became more and more enraged at the stories of his fellow Muslims being killed.

213 I call for death by bacon. 

214 Huge "distraction" on the steps of the WH yesterday, calling for their heads.

Axie and Rahmie said let's cause our own "distraction".......ACTIVATE Ft.Hood.

215 Curious about that mosque in Killeen...what are the chances the imam is a wahhabi?  Interesting that the convenience store owner felt compelled to tell Hasan that "there are bad guys over there too". 

216 awesome part of that link HM

f.
Upon pronouncement of the death of the prisoner by the medical officer, the execution party will proceed to the racks from which the rifles were originally obtained, and replace the rifles in the racks at random. The execution party will then be dismissed.

g.
The escort, with the band playing a lively air, will return to their parade ground and be dismissed.

217 I actually heard an interview on NPR this morning with a colleague of Hasan. Apparently, Hasan used to give presentations at Psychiatry conventions that were nothing more than Islamic sermons; saying that insane people really were just unbelievers who needed their heads cut off and boiling oil poured down their throats... He dismissed scientific and physiological explanations of mental disorders. Other psychiatrists were disturbed with these religions presentations, of course. I'll see if I can find the link on NPR.

218 215  Huge distraction away from 10.2% funemployment today as well.

219 I am so EFFING tired of the liberal half of this country sticking their collective heads in the sand and spouting their psycho babble crap about this treasonist/terrorist! We need some shock and awe and some honesty about what Islam is to the west! IT. IS.NOT.OUR. FRIEND. It is maddening that people are actually feeling sorry for this guy! He is the worst of pigs. He is the ugliest of humans. Whether people like it or not, the West is Christian to the Muslim world and they HATE THE INFIDELS! I want every muslim O-U-T out of the military even if they are perceived as nice guys. Time to use common sense and abandon this tolerance and political correctness. With each of these attacks a little more of teh western civilization is gone. Pat Buchanan was abso-effing-lutely right in Death of the West!

220 You know what I'd love to see? I'd like to see our last actual President drive over to Ft. Hood and offer condolences to the families of the slain, and observe the reception that he'd almost certainly receive there. You know, to show everyone how a real President -- one who isn't a shallow, narcissistic fuckwad -- behaves in a situation like this...

221 "Soldiers who witnessed the shooting rampage at Fort Hood that left 13 people dead reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" before opening fire"

Well, I, for one, am shocked.

222 we are turning into a country of pansies.

223 Popcorn, I'll accept your explanation for his promotion but I question why he was still in the Army at all.

224 Fuck that Hadji piece of shit.

225 This terrorist was also on Hussein's transition team....a Homeland Security adviser.

Posted by: pam at November 06, 2009 12:21 AM (h8R9p)

So Bill Ayer's protege is still working with terrorists...I'm shocked!

226 211 WTF? There are no weapons in a military base? In Israel he'd be shot in 2 sec

Apparently they were not permitted to carry weapons, else this would have been over after he fired one shot.
Army needs to rethink quite a few things - for starters, let soldiers carry weapons, and screen out enemy combatants from the ranks.

227 202 I hope to God he survives his injuries.  Stand trial, mofo, like a man. 

Posted by: MDH3 at November 06, 2009 08:52 AM (4u+LN)

For murder, and treason.

228 CAIR guy denouncing the acts of the Ft. Hood Terrorist. Too little to late, CAIR.....we don't believe you. And the morning blond on fox is saying the Ft. Hood Terrorist's remarks were no different than a deranged Christian saying some Christian sentiment going into attack. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!! I am going to lose my ever lovin mind.

229

211 -- Sop, a military base is like a city, onto itself.  There are areas where weapons should defintely be restricted (although I'm with the people above in thinking they may need to rethink their security).

I'm afraid the military dropped the ball with this guy -- he should have been investigated.  However, in a sense they can be excused.  The PC idiocy (which has no place whatsoever within the military! ditto multiculturalist #$%^ -- there is only one culture in the military, and that is the military culture; period, end of story! -- many of our specialized officers do not get that indoctrination, it should be noted) has hamstrung our military -- if someone would have called this guy out what would have happened?  Howls of "racism...racism and Islamaphobia!" from the usual suspects, and the whistle blower would've been frakked -- certainly careerwise, possibly having their personal life become a nightmare.  Not many have the intestinal fortitude to take that hit I'm afraid (especially when it could come to nothing).  Also, this does illustrate a major problem (pun perhaps intended) within our officer corps -- they cover for each other way too much (often at the expense of their troops) and with little consequence.

The media will continue to wilfully drop the ball in reporting it, and unfortunately the American people themselves will wilfully drop the ball in accepting this lame ptsd excuse (and smear on the military -- seems an unfortunately large segment of our population is all too willing to believe any bad thing about about our military and veterans -- we're like the human pit bulls, heh, any bad press will be reported constantly, blow out of proportion outrageously, and believed unquestioningly).  In the meantime, our society will continue to drop the ball on the threat within our midst -- wilfully -- because it appears as though it is much better to die, and our children to die, than to ever be seen as a "racist" (if you're from  a non-protected group looking at a protected group -- and Muslims are the freaking gold standard of protected groups right now).  LIke I said, when you have Muslims telling you 10+ years ago that religious extremism within their own religion could become a very big and bloody problem, you tend to listen to them...or should.

230 deranged Christian saying some Christian sentiment going into attack.

When's the last time a Christian shot up an army base screaming about Jesus? 

231 New First Amendment cliche:  "You can't yell 'Alluhakbar' in a crowded theater."

232

No.  Way.

Posted by: Christopher Calandro at November 06, 2009 12:22 AM (JdbYk)

 #1 Evidence?
Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 06, 2009 12:26 AM (HAdov)   Re-read pam's post. Her sarcasm escaped the both of you.

233

Hasan dressed in traditional Arab garb even though he was born in the United States and was a soldier in the USA. If he were of African descent and dressed in gangbanger clothing do you think eyes would have been averted?

Political correctness got 13 people murdered yesterday.

234

The primary theory in the MSM is what i am calling "Secondhand PSTD", because he treated so many psych casualties from Iraq.  I am totaly ready to send the entire ABC newsroom to Somolia to spend quality time with their friends.

 

235 Is the media in a full "fear of backlash" mode yet?

236 It never really dawned on me there may be a considerable number of Muslims in the military.  Naive of me, perhaps, but I just never thought of it.  Then I got to thinking...will they slowly start to infiltrate our military the way the liberals have every major institution in this country until they are nearly in total control of it?  With this outrageous PC culture of ours, who will ever raise an eyebrow if it happens slowly over time?  Nobody will.

237

Psychiatrists and other Social Science types are the priests at the temple of Liberalism.

 

Hasan’s mental issues revolve around the fact that he could not reconcile these religions battling for the control of his body and soul. A soul that  we trust is now burning in eternal hellfire.

238 I really didn't want to believe that it was going to happen; that the media was going to downplay the fact that this was a muslim terror attack but that's exactly what they're doing on Good Morning America right now.  They're talking about depression, harassment and PTSD.  Stupid, useless media tools. 

All muslims are not jihadis but this bastard was.  I only hope that, like others here have said, he undermines their narrative with his own words.  MSM = muslim sympathizing media.
 

239 Hasan Chop!

240 This may have been noted already, but wasn't Hannibal Lecter a psychiatrist as well?

241

WTF? There are no weapons in a military base? In Israel he'd be shot in 2 sec.

A stateside military base has lots and lots of jobs that don't involve the need for a weapon. Heck, thousands of *civilian* workers commute into them daily.

 

242

Hasan Chop!

Eh, that's my line, doc....

243
The ever inquisitive msm has yet to ask why would the first reaction of someone who is trained as a mental health professional  be going on a murderous rampage if it was not jihad?Secondly why would a Major who more than likely would have been assigned to a battalion or regimental level medical HQ unit  and never see actual combat be distraught.

244
WTF? there are no weapons in a military base? in Israel he'd be shot in 2 sec.


  When not training in the field weapons are kept in the armory,even then if you are not participating in a live fire exercise they do not issue live ammunition.

245

C-Store surveillance video, around 6:30am local time.

And in full Islamofascist costume, no less.  

 

246 And again, liberals' pet ideas ("diversity" and "tolerance", this time) manifest in a pile of corpses. Here's the deal, liberals: I will be tolerant toward your protected "minorities" when they become tolerant toward me. Also, as far as "diversity" is concerned, it is no longer a mere "difference of opinion" when a member of a psycho cult (also, your beloved protected "minority") believes it is his right and duty to commit mass murder. So, until your pet freaks start practicing tolerance and diversity, don't expect others to do so.

247 231 deranged Christian saying some Christian sentiment going into attack.

When's the last time a Christian shot up an army base screaming about Jesus? 

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 06, 2009 10:25 AM (NtiET)

That's just it. These bobble head journalists say this prefab crap and SO IT BE! Heather, I am just about to explode out of my skin with the inane shitstorm of fluff that comes outta these parrots mouths! THIS IS NOT SOME CRAZY FRINGE MUSLIM! He is WHAT Muslims are supposed to be. HEAR ME NOW, BELIEVE ME LATER!

248 Fox news is still confounded, "we're just trying to figure out what the heck motivated this guy". Really weak reporting guys.

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Denial aint just in the news room.  Check your coworkers,  mine are afraid to call out the Islam angle. 

Lucking I'm already known as a hateful right winger. 

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He gave a Grand Rounds presentation. . . You take turns giving a lecture on, you know, the correct treatment of schizophrenia, the right drugs to prescribe for personality disorder, you know, that sort of thing. But instead of giving an academic paper, he gave a lecture on the Koran, and they said it didn’t seem to be just an informational lecture, but it seemed to be his own beliefs. That’s what a lot of people thought.

He talked about how if you’re a nonbeliever the Koran says you should have your head cut off, you should have oil poured down your throat, you should be set on fire. And I said well couldn’t this just be his educating you? And the psychiatrist said yes, but one of the Muslims in the audience, another psychiatrist, raised his hand and was quite disturbed and he said you know, a lot of us don’t believe these things you’re saying, and that there was no place where Hasan couched it as this is what the Koran teaches but you know I don’t believe it. And people actually talked in the hallway afterwards about ‘is he one of these people that’s going to freak out and shoot people someday?’

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deranged Christian saying some Christian sentiment going into attack

The fundamental flaw in this comparison is that Jesus did not instruct his followers to kill other human beings in his name.  Anyone who does so is most assuredly not a Christian.

The battle to which he referred upon occasion was the one against Satan.

252 This guy was not crazy.  Any more than you and I..  He had hate in his heart because of his religion..  PERIOD.  The left will spin this in the compassionate way that they do things. He was a loser, and even Walter Reed kicked him out because of poor reports. His own fault. So, in a typical Liberal way, he spun it in his mind that it was not his fault. Just think what would happen, if a solder did the same thing in a Mosque! The PC people would go nuts.

253 WOW....I just found out Hasan's name appears on page 32 of the George Washington University Homeland Security Policy Institute: Nidal Hasan Uniformed Services University School of Medicine His name was on the list of "Task Force Participants" as in "The Homeland Security Policy Institute Presidential Transition Task Force" http://tinyurl.com/ydrw4cr Mea Culpa, Chistopher and Just another poster.

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The fundamental flaw in this comparison is that Jesus did not instruct his followers to kill other human beings in his name.  Anyone who does so is most assuredly not a Christian.

The battle to which he referred upon occasion was the one against Satan.

 

Yeah. My recollection is that Jesus supported passive martyrdom. IF they come and kill you for loving Jesus, do not deny your love. But do not kill others for not loving Jesus.

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He was not a REAL officer, he's a doctor and doctor's get promoted without any significant review. Doctors start out as Captains so its not like he had even 10 years experience in the military nor had a real promotion board."

Well, that will come as a rude shock to Leonard Wood, and a godsend by all those to whom I have give Article 15s over the years.

Your ignorance is astounding. I suspect you are a Failure to Adapt discharge ?

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Still skeptical of how many casualties could be caused by two handguns, but I found a possible explanation:

Officials are not ruling out the possibility that some of the casualties may have been victims of "friendly fire," that in the confusion at the shooting scene some of the responding military officials may have shot some of the victims.

Cone acknowledged that it was "counterintuitive" that a single shooter could hit so many people, but he said the massacre occurred in "close quarters.

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