1 The bastard is STILL ALIVE???

Shit.

2 ?

3 I tell you, get that soldier a Medal of Honor!!

4 Alive for now,   I say hang him old school...

5 Nine lives, just like an AoS troll.

6 Is there ANYTHING about this story that has been reported correctly? First there are multiple gunmen, then 3, then only one, then the only one is shot dead, now he is alive.

Christ, our media sucks.

7 There is something not right here....

8 That cock sucker.

He's going to WISH he was fucking dead!

But of course... NOW we're going to hear how he was discriminated against, and how HARD his life is, and how he LOVES everyone.

Mother FUCKER!

9 What???

10 "Oh, and I want to give a shout out to my XBox live buddies...   



This is very tragic.."



Barry Hussain

11 This is UNFRICKINBELIEVABLE!!!

12 I'm sure Ron Kuby is already on the phone getting his plane tickets to fly down and offer his services.

13 Good American MY FUCKING BALLS!

14 OMG - it's the Antichrist.  We all on the ONT are screwed for messing with the 6*6 post.

15 Fuck I thought he got his "reward".Now the lawyers will crawl out of the woodwork to defend him.Ahh shit...

16 Good.  Now we can get the firing squad put together.

Here's my question.  Was this fucker in critical condition?  Were doctors operating on this worthless piece of shit before they operated on his victims?

17

The officer who shot his worthless ass is a she?

I salute you mam !

18 Is there ANYTHING about this story that has been reported correctly? First there are multiple gunmen, then 3, then only one, then the only one is shot dead, now he is alive.

Christ, our media sucks.

Welcome to the fog of war.  Anybody surprised at the unreliability of early reports hasn't seen this stuff before.  Remember the bomb that was supposed to have gone off in front of the State Department during 9/11?

19 Mrs Peel, that is a fucking excellent mother fucking question that we'll never get answered.

20 LET THE CIRCUS BEGIN!!

21 Fort Hood was named after a war criminal.  (just keeping up the John ryan tradition of posting mindless non-sequiturs).

22 Oh, GOOD.

Now Obama can make sure he gets his swine flu shot, Muslim acceptable food to eat, a Koran and prayer rug, and a chance to pray towards Mecca 5 times a day.

Of course, the International Red Cross will DEMAND to visit him periodically to make sure we're not mistreating him, and the UN will dispatch a "Human Rights Commissioner."

23

The bastard is STILL ALIVE???

Of course.  And there will be people protesting for his freedom.  Because it really wasn't his fault or he was driven to it or some such crap.  Just you wait and see.

Oh!  Oh!  Can't wait to see what the girls at The View have to say about it. 

24 Oh my God.....they guy talking now says 'IT'S NOT A TERRORIST ATTACK!!!
You've got to be kidding me!!!!

25 I'm actually very, very glad this guy is alive and I pray he pulls through.

Because I want answers.  From his own mouth.  Whether it's honesty or dissembling bullshit, I need to hear about motive.

Then we try him and give him the needle.

26 Your doing a Heckava job MSM.

27 I have to say this:  I'm really glad this guy isn't black.

28 Patch him up, water board him for info re sleeper cells, then shoot him proper with a squad.

29 How the hell is this not a terrorist attack, this nightmare is only going to get worse.

30 Give him a Nobel Prize.

31 Then we try him and give him the needle.
Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2009 09:23 PM (GhUHn)

Right, so the Italians can try us all in absentia for "murder."

The world keeps spiraling into ever greater depths of insanity.

32 Then we try him and give him the needle.

I'd settle for Texas justice, old style: necktie party, courtesy of the sheriff and the good ole boys.

33 C'mon, Drewsie.

You know I'm going to keep talking about Tim McVeigh because that's all my short circuited little Marxist brain can spit out.

34 He obviously did it to lessen the carbon footprint of Ft Hood.

35 I have to say this:  I'm really glad this guy isn't black.

Posted by: baldilocks at November 05, 2009 09:24 PM (io7pd)

You mean like that rapist in Cleveland ?

36 Motive? You need to hear Motive? sorry I don't get what you are saying? pretty clear to me what his motive was - what are you thinking?

37

Its a horrible situation and our thoughts are with those slaughtered and wounded, and their families..

I and my 73 year old very conservative mother are releived that it wasnt some poor kid with PTSD that the media could spin into a negative campaign against the military.

38
You don't shoot this turd.  You hang him.

39 He's still alive? Let me at the fucker!

40 Well, this IS the Media that was telling us about rape, murder, starvation, and maybe cannibalism inside the Superdome after Katrina, after all...

41 Heh, Heh.  This bumps those awful teabaggers outside my office today right off the evening news.

42 Christ, our media sucks.

Report first, verify later.

Sometimes never.

Sad but true.

43 Hope someone thought to read this asshole his rights. He will sit before a court martial first, right?

44

Exxxxxxxxxcellent.

If he's a jihadi he will sing like a bird, and then I will get to watch the press pretend to be shocked and amazed.

45 39 He's still alive? Let me at the fucker!

I'm fucking first, hon.

Sorry, I claim 'Vet' status, and I get first dibs.

46 Im gonna drive this big Yellow machine down to Texas and see what this thing really does.....

47 Do they still have firing squads in the Army?

48 They should have left him to bleed until everyone he shot was treated.If he bled out before they got to him than tough shit....

49 Your doing a Heckava job MSM.

I don't fault the media this time. They're reporting what they know at the time they know it. It takes a while for something like this to get all sorted out. Instead, fault the instant-on-the-spot get-it-out-quickest news format that has come to dominate the TV age. In some ways, it was better than the old days where you wouldn't hear about something like this for a week or a month.

50 Somewhere, Sean Penn is revving up the engine for his rescue raft and heading out towards Ft. Hood to "investigate" how Hassan was forced into this act by George W. Bush...

51 i saw we go medieval. Lets have the man drawn and quartered

52 Let me be clear: this soldier is a hero. Now i'm gonna sign the papers and transfer Texas back to it's lawful Arab owners.

53 48 What the fuck are you mumbling around that dick in your mouth?You fucking shitstain coward motherfucker.

54 47 Do they still have firing squads in the Army?

Yes, and in the 1880s the Supreme Court said it's legal to shoot the condemned.

55 Fox News website says "Cousin Says Military Doc ID'd as Gunman Was Harassed, Feared Deployment" ...sounds like they're already trying to paint him as the victim.

56 Good gravy. Could the facts of this case get any more convoluted?

57 41 Heh, Heh. This bumps those awful teabaggers outside my office today right off the evening news.
Posted by: San Fran Nan at November 05, 2009 09:26 PM (q1zgR)

I question the timing.

58 I have an idea on why the jihadi was allowed to be there in the first place; PC BS!!!

59 Billy Ayers is proud.

60 I can't believe I'm standing up for the media, but it's ridiculous to blame them for not reporting that this guy was alive.  They took their cues from the military (as they naturally would and should) and the military reported earlier that he had been killed. 

In fact, as this guest on Hannity points out, it's rather bizarre that the Army kept this quiet until now and one wonders if it was just confusion or a more deliberate strategic decision.

Either way, I hope this fucker can speak.

61 Someone in the operating room needs to do us all a favor and put him out of his misery!

62 Instead of his 72 virgins, he now gets his 72 ass reamings.

63 Heard Chrissy Matthews on MSNBC basically saying, what is this? What can we call this? It's not terrorism, because, you know, the guy was shooting at army personnel...

What. A. Douchebag.

64 there are plenty of ranges at Ft. Hood: i suggest they pick one, then start a raffle sale to raise funds for the survivors, and the families of the dead.

tickets can be purchased by any current member of the military, prior service, and their immediate families.

the lucky winners will be assigned a firing point on said range, the infantry weapon of their choice, with ammo, and, on command, open fire, until this scumbag is dead, dead, dead.

directly after the Court Martial and appeal, of course.

65 BarriO to apologize in 4,3,2...

66 57 Good gravy. Could the facts of this case get any more convoluted?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 05, 2009 09:29 PM (6Z4n6)

I've got my fingers crossed that it turns out he shot 30 hamsters.

67 I'm calling it right now...this scum bag will not get the death penalty. The one will not allow it and neither will Holder.

68 We need a tall tree and a short rope.

69 The only good thing that can possibly come from this scumbag being alive is his admitting, that he did this because he is a muslim and believes all infidels should die.  Completely destroy the efforts of the msm and fbi to downplay that this was a terrorist attack by muslim extremist.

70 69 We need a tall tree and a short rope.

You softie.

Me and a baseball bat.

71 Posted in other thread as well, but...

http://www.scribd.com/NidalHasan

72 God bless the officer who shot this fucknuts, and I'm so glad she's still alive.

And the fact that the officer is a "she" is a double plus good!

Eat it, women-hating muslims!  May the officer recover and be blessed.

73 I know we all want to blame the news media, but didn't the original press military conference from Ft. Hood state that he was dead?

74 They should hang him from the yard arm of the USS New York...

75 too bad he didn't get to endure Obama care. In that case, the ACLU would have clamored for him to get better care.

76 62 Someone in the operating room needs to do us all a favor and put him out of his our misery!


Fixed that for ya...

77 56 Fox News website says "Cousin Says Military Doc ID'd as Gunman Was Harassed, Feared Deployment" ...sounds like they're already trying to paint him as the victim.

Got their orders from the Saudis.

And CAIR. Expect to see them on the air soon, screaming about "persecution of Muslims in the military."

78

I'm calling it right now...this scum bag will not get the death penalty. The one will not allow it and neither will Holder.

he will. they are killing john allen muhammed on november 10th. that is progress. he was the beltway sniper by the way. i think he was catholic

79 No. they'll say he was insane and he'll get off in 10 years!

80 70 Go slit your throat you fuckwad.

81 Someone in the operating room needs to do us all a favor and put him out of his misery!

Posted by: madmama at November 05, 2009 09:29 PM (RZrNV)

That's an interesting idea. 

82 35 I have to say this:  I'm really glad this guy isn't black.

Posted by: baldilocks at November 05, 2009 09:24 PM (io7pd)

You mean like that rapist in Cleveland ?

Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 09:25 PM (+FzLa)

Correct.  And like his victims. And like me.

83 The GCMA will have an office adjacent to the Court to handle the appeal.

84 "Patch him up, water board him for info re sleeper cells, then shoot him proper with a squad."

and charge that loser on TV defending him for the bullets.

85 I say we hang him.

By his testicles.

86 71 The only good thing that can possibly come from this scumbag being alive is his admitting, that he did this because he is a muslim and believes all infidels should die.  Completely destroy the efforts of the msm and fbi to downplay that this was a terrorist attack by muslim extremist.

He has a lawyer yapping in his ear right now telling him to say he snapped under the pressure of the illegal war against the polar bears and how much he embraces cap and trade and how he wouldn't have done it if there had been universal health care.

87 "72 69 We need a tall tree and a short rope.

You softie.

Me and a baseball bat.

Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 09:31 PM (hA5JK)"

See, I was kinda thinking starving dog and rabid hogs.

88

7 There is something not right here..

Amen to that brother...

89 ..this scum bag will not get the death penalty. The one will not allow it and neither will Holder.

They wouldn't dare.  I'd like to believe there would be mass resignations of officers, NCOs and enlisted if this travesty were to come around.

90 I hear Gore Vidal has already bid to write and produce the HBO biopic on Hasan.

So who plays him? Sean Penn? Ed Norton?

91 @45

Get in line, buddy.

92 Heh, I feel good enough to give bowling another try!  Take that, Sean Hannity!!!

93 Heart warming. This young man is like the son I never had.

94 Oh good, they're talking about his "feelings" on CNN now.

95 Also, hash-[NLCRo] is asking for it.

96 So you're telling me the ambulance crew didn't make sure this motherfucker got to the ER dead?  wtf?  really? 

Shoot THEM.

97 Said it in last thread but again - send him to Afghanistan dress him in U.S. uniform and send him walking down the road to Taliban they will think he is U.S. soldier and shoot him. better stop now.

98

What I learned today:  Other than the obvious stuff, that is.

I HATE these nitwit leftist trolls.  I used to just not like them when they were dropping their turds on threads about this or that politician or this or that piece of legislation or election.  They were always annoying, usually so egregiously wrong one wondered if they actually believed what they were saying, and rarely clever enough to be entertaining.

But after seeing their relentless trolling of threads about the Fort Hood shooting, I have to say it: These people are worthless goatcum-drinking scrunts.  They are not people who merely disagree with us.  They hate us and everything we believe.  I hope they die in a fire.  If one of them were getting the Kitty Genovese treatment in my neighborhood, I would be unable to find my phone or open my front door.

Effin Oxygen thieves, the lot of them.

99

Fort Hood Shooter Alive

 

I have a cure for that.

100 94 Oh good, they're talking about his "feelings" on CNN now.

Guess their talking points from CAIR arrived.

101

See, I was kinda thinking starving dog and rabid hogs.

Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties

I'm a very simple man.

Baseball bat.

102 Give this bastard to the same guys that hung Saddam Hussein.

103 I'm live in TX, & I'm willing to drive him down to Huntsville myself if that's the least they'll do to him.

104

I'm calling it right now...this scum bag will not get the death penalty. The one will not allow it and neither will Holder.

They'll do just like Clinton did during his 1st campaign when he flew back to Arkansas for the execution of the mentally retarded convict, who may very well have been incapable of understanding what he did. But Clinton needed to look like a tough guy, so there you go.

No way will Obama run interference for this guy.

105

Oh good, they're talking about his "feelings" on CNN now.

Guess their talking points from CAIR arrived.

 

50 bucks says the word "jews" comes up within the hour

106 #80
I bet Nov 11th comes and Mahammed is still breathing.

107 How is this not a terrorist attack?

Do terrorist attacks require complete filings of all required forms, stamped with official Al Kida symbols before our powers that be acknowledge the obvious?

108 GUYS! GUYS!  Morons!  GUYS!

IF President Obama had carried out his campaign promises re: Iraq and Afghanistan then this tragedy would never have happened.

Period.¹

-

_{1 Obama and his whip-smart team of crackerjacks received a year's worth of foreign intel briefings PRIOR to his taking over The Office of the President-Elect PRIOR to his becoming President.  Nothing has happened in Afghanistan or Iraq that could qualify as a surprise, given eighteen-to-twenty-four months of briefings *and* almost a year time served as CinC.}

109 The ambulance crew must have been union workers.  Fuckers.

110 With him being a committed Muslim, I think it's kind of poetic that it was a woman who shot him.

111 Any word on how the officer who shot him is doing?  Out of surgery is good, but is there a positive outcome hoped for in her recovery?

112

I am happy he is alive.  Let's see where this goes.  He killed 12 people. You cannot hide this.

This could create the political stink we need. 

Then kill him.

113

At least now he'll be tried for a hate crime.

 

Right?

114 Blackadder treatment:

"Baldrick, believe me, eternity in the company of Beelzebub and all his hellish instruments of death will be a picnic compared to five minutes with me and this pencil"

115 #104
I hope you are right.

116

The ambulance crew must have been union workers.  Fuckers.

 

huh?

117 They won't say where he is, most likely b/c he has a million people after him. Bet the policewoman wants another shot.

118 Looks like he believed Obama's rhetoric on bringing the soldiers home.

Even voting present has its consequences.

119 I bet that Indian bear is hungry again by now.

120

I bet that Indian bear is hungry again by now.

it has tasted jihadi blood.

121 110 With him being a committed Muslim, I think it's kind of poetic that it was a woman who shot him.

Posted by: Girl Thursday at November 05, 2009 09:36 PM (jdH7A)

Bitchez get shit done, yo.

122 I think it's time for an intervention in the media. Call these jackholes and tell them this guy is no different than a Jihadi terrorist. Start telling the media what this is.Obviously, boycotting won't work. For once, I would like to see the truth spoken from these fucks.

123

Hmmm...Jack-Ass is still breathing, no problem. Time to test-out some interrogation techniques...Waterboarding anyone?

124 113

At least now he'll be tried for a hate crime.

I don't think the UCMJ has such a statute.

125 Make sure he lives.

Then we can rendition him.

Wet towels my ass.

126 I'm delighted he's alive because when he starts talking some leftist douchebag CAIR apologist heads will explode.  That SOB was born here, grew up here, and got his medical education courtesy of the Army after he voluntarily enlisted.  If he didn't want to be deployed he could have sat it out in the brig or deserted and taken the consequences.  And as for the PTSD by proxy theory, the press can try to fly that one all day but nobody's going to buy it in a nation where we pay good money to watch Saw movies over and over and over again.

127 "How is this not a terrorist attack?"

Because we said it wasn't.

128 Any word on the name of the policewoman who shot him?  Any word at all from MSM or more reputable sources?

She deserves a parade.  With balloons.  Lots of helium balloons.

129 102: actually, didn't one of Saddam's henchmen get decapitated during his hanging?

Just askin'...

130 I want to know everything this monster has in his head... every damn twisted thought... every sick twisted belief... keep this thing alive until we know all that we can... and then...

131 Somehow this is George Bush's fault. Not exactly sure how, but we'll think of something.

132 no hate crime here! unless they were all gay... except if he's muslim then it's ok and not a hate crime because he's muslim. 

Maybe if they were all black... but... fuck... not not if he was muslim.

So, No.  No hate crime unless he was a white male christian. THEN it'd be the chair!!!ONE111ELEVENTY!!!

But he wasn't. so no.

133 Let's see if Obama can spin this and blame it on Bush....hasn't stopped him from blaming everything else on him.

134 107 How is this not a terrorist attack?

Do terrorist attacks require complete filings of all required forms, stamped with official Al Kida symbols before our powers that be acknowledge the obvious?

Posted by: eman at November 05, 2009 09:36 PM (j+aj1)

It's not terrorism if it's justified. And the MSM believes it is justified to shoot evil, oppressing US soldiers. They will spin it right to the end. Have no doubts.

135 I for one am stoked he's alive.

This will remove the speculative excuse making. If there's one thing we can depend on, it's an Islamic terrorist to be psychotically proud of his acts of jihad.

And then we can put a bullet in his brain.

136

A Fatwa is issued! 

"For everyone of ours, ten of theirs"

Effective immediately.

137 I have to say this:  I'm really glad this guy isn't black.

Posted by: baldilocks at November 05, 2009 09:24 PM (io7pd)

You mean like that rapist in Cleveland ?

Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 09:25 PM (+FzLa)

Correct.  And like his victims. And like me.

Posted by: baldilocks at November 05, 2009 09:32 PM (io7pd)

Your just as bad as the pc SRM Baldi, if thats the logic your gonna use. John Wayne Gacy's and Ted Bundy's victims were all white too.

So the fuck what, what are you aimin' for here?

138

I say we hang him.

By his testicles.

My uncle was a Marine officer in the Korean war. He witnessed just what you have written. A North Korean spy was caught in a Turkish camp; the Turks hanged him by his testicles from the entry gate to their camp with a sign above him that read "This is what happens to spies."

139 I've had this proven to me over and over again since the Columbine shootings:

Never EVER believe anything media reports the first couple of HOURS after an event like this. 

140

Oh good, they're talking about his "feelings" on CNN now.

I knew it, I knew it, I knew it. This fuckwad is going to be the ultimate "victim." The injustices heaped upon him for his beliefs made him snap or some such idiocy like that.

This whole thing makes me so mad I don't know whether to spit or go blind, or whatever that saying is...

141 this is not a terrorist attack, but a fat middle aged white guy with a Gadsen flag at a Tea Party is? Good to know.

142 Chris Matthews wants to know what to call this?  Infiltration.  This muslim piece of shit came into the Army to blend in and commit an act of terror.  Fuck him to death.

143

Poor marksmanship for sure.  He's alive, unbelievable.  WTF, these are soldiers, oh wait, a girl shot him, clearly not that hot sniper we've all seen or the fucker would be DEAD.

Maybe he won't "recover".

"Senor Ugandi is dead, we are trying to decide whether he died trying to escape or killed himself."

Casablanca, 1941

144 Is this the first attack on American soil since 9-11? If so Bush kept us safe. Obmanuts has not.

145 117 They won't say where he is, most likely b/c he has a million people after him.

You know what that reminded me of? The Timothy McVeigh perp walk. Remember that? Everyone wanted to see who the OK bomber was so they obliged and marched him on out with a bulletproof vest on. Think they'll do that with this piece of shit? Of course not, he's not a white "right wing" militia type. And you know they wouldn't have done that without Clintons approval.

146 What, no virgins?? No wonder the infedels let me live.

147 I mean, seriously --

... the DISAPPOINTMENT this guy must have felt at investing his hopes, dreams, and ambitions in President Obama, his desire for Hope and Change ... to see that all come crashing down over the course of months and months of time ...

... to have read all the lefty blogs touting Obama's progressive views, anti-Bushness and moral rectitude, and pants-creases and then to be on the verge of deploying overseas to fight in a war that you were promised would end ...

....

Man.

...

To paraphrase an old quote - This type of intent always being attributed to the Right, but manifested on the Left.

148 And now they're getting their panties in a bunch because one gentlemen is saying that it might be a terrorism related attack. I mean, seriously, they're calling it an "incendiary comment" to suggest it.

149 I bet that Indian bear is hungry again by now.

HAHAHAHA!

Thanks for that. If only we could "go Roman" on these scumholes.

150 Fuck 'feelings'

I got 'feelings'

My 'feelings' say it's my fucking birthday, and I'm giving all of my presents back.

All I want now is his heart.

On a plate.

151 Not a terrorist attack?

Well yeah, if you mean in the sense that this guy wasn't recruited, trained, then inserted for a planned attack from a known terrorist group. 

On the other hand, if he's a Muslim fanatic who goes off on his without being a part of any larger group or an orchestrated plan this means it's not a terror attack? 

I doubt it. 

152  say we hang him.

By his testicles.

My uncle was a Marine officer in the Korean war. He witnessed just what you have written. A North Korean spy was caught in a Turkish camp; the Turks hanged him by his testicles from the entry gate to their camp with a sign above him that read "This is what happens to spies."

 

i must have really inferior testicles. mine would not be able to hold up my body weight for long.

On a side note those turks are crazy. I saw photos of their "peace keepers" holding the bodies of dead bosnian serbs over fires like they were cooking them.  J

153 137 I think she just started out saying she was glad he wasn't black.You brought up the whole Cleveland thing which was unnecessary.

154 ....I just keep chuckling to myself....heh - a GIRL shot him.

Heh.

155 So the fuck what, what are you aimin' for here?

Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 09:41 PM (+FzLa)

 

What exactly is your problem, Blazer?

156

To paraphrase an old quote - This type of intent always being attributed to the Right, but manifested on the Left.

 

Yeah, kind of like how Chris Matthews claimed Lee Harvey Oswald killed kennedy because the right wing goaded him to do it.

157 Shit.
This may not fit "The Meme".
Get Axelrod.
Stat!

158 At some point in time we have to quit kidding ourselves that these people are just like us. Assimilate or immigrate.

159 For some reason this news made me think of that scene in King Lear where lear finds that Cordelia has hung herself.

Howl, howl, howl, howl! O! you are men of stones:
Had I your tongues and eyes, I'd use them so
That heaven's vaults should crack. — She's gone for ever!

I know when one is dead, and when one lives;
She's dead as earth.

The murdered dead are gone forever; their killer lives on. Justice will come, soon or late, but still: how can this murder have life and his victims none at all? What meaning is there in this? I know we are told that God never burdens us beyond what we can bear, but I cannot imagine the terrible weight that must lie on the loved ones of the dead.

Why should a dog, a horse, a rat, have life,
And thou no breath at all? Thou'lt come no more,
Never, never, never, never, never!

160 Just seeing Olberdouche while flipping thru the channels gives me PTSD.

161
Hey Baldi,ever heard of the Southside Strangler, Timothy Spencer ?

He was a black serial killer who strangled mostly black women. Famous around these parts where I live.

162 On the other hand, if he's a Muslim fanatic who goes off on his without being a part of any larger group or an orchestrated plan this means it's not a terror attack?

A little known condition called, "Sudden Jihad Syndrome". This way, Barack Hussein Obama and Eric Holder don't even have to prosecute him!

163 I have a bad feeling about all of this...

164

I think this is a good reminder that everyone should kick in a couple of bucks to the Valor IT thingie. I put in for the marines, i guess i will be making a donation to the army now too.

 

165



Your just as bad as the pc SRM Baldi, if thats the logic your gonna use. John Wayne Gacy's and Ted Bundy's victims were all white too.

So the fuck what, what are you aimin' for here?

Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 09:41 PM (+FzLa)

Just as bad as them in what way?  Can something just be taken at face value or is it necessary for there to be some underlying meaning?

Fuck off.  No underlying meaning there.

166

Your just as bad as the pc SRM Baldi, if thats the logic your gonna use. John Wayne Gacy's and Ted Bundy's victims were all white too.

So the fuck what, what are you aimin' for here?

Whoa, Blazer, time out. Baldilocks is one of us.

167 Hey - the Cleveland serial murder thing ain't nothing - check out Coral Watts' record.  Google it.  He was perhaps the first black serial killer in the US.

This Cleveland guy ain't got nothing over on Coral Watts.

168 154 Too bad the bullet wasn't greased with pork fat.Actually the muzzies slaughtered some peple because of that once......

169 154 ....I just keep chuckling to myself....heh - a GIRL shot him.

Heh.

My ex-wife, may she fester, went to a Jane Wayne Day, where they let the spouses play with our toys when she was 8 months pregnant. She dug a whole out for her tummy, got behind the pig, and rocked out a belt like she'd been doing it her whole life.

I'll admit I was a little impressed.

Still hate her.

170 And by that I mean one of the decent people, just to be clear.

171 Sockpuppet begone!

172 Isn't it about time to yell "wolverine" yet? Even before this shit happened I've heard nothing but bad news.

173

i must have really inferior testicles. mine would not be able to hold up my body weight for long.

I'll control myself, for once.

174 I get why Baldilocks is glad the shooter wasn't black just like I'm glad when someone says something stupid and racist on teevee when they don't have a southern accent: god, don't let him be one of ours.

175 110 With him being a committed Muslim, I think it's kind of poetic that it was a woman who shot him.

Posted by: Girl Thursday at November 05, 2009 09:36 PM (jdH7A)

I hope they were eye-to-eye when she ventilated him!

176

On a side note those turks are crazy. I saw photos of their "peace keepers" holding the bodies of dead bosnian serbs over fires like they were cooking them. 

Posted by: Ben at November 05, 2009 09:44 PM (bftbi)

Turks are Muslim.

177 Can we now officially rename Sudden Jihad Syndrome "Hasan Syndrome" - it is especially apt since he was a shrink, and in light of Sgt Hasan Akbar.

178
He was a black serial killer who strangled mostly black women. Famous around these parts where I live.

Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 09:46 PM (+FzLa)

So what?

I'm still glad that *this one* black.

179 O bet it turns out all this was triggered when the Ft. Hood authorities cruelly refused to install muslim footbaths in the officer club.

180

181

If this douchbag was making comments about the war for the past 6 months, and people knew it, how come nobody said to the higher-ups, "hey maybe you might want to take a look at old Hasan, he's sounding crazy lately".

 

182

Hey, guys I am sorry. 

Ace's mother couldn't get shit for me on Ebay, so Ace takes it out on me.  I been laid up drunk for weeks, and missed the election, now he's pissed and is putting my lame ass up every other post.

Can I have some time off?

PLEASE

183

Your just as bad as the pc SRM Baldi, if thats the logic your gonna use. John Wayne Gacy's and Ted Bundy's victims were all white too.

So the fuck what, what are you aimin' for here?

Whoa, Blazer, time out. Baldilocks is one of us.

 

Blazer I think she was just saying I am glad he isn't black, in the same way that everyone was hoping he wasn't christian, a right winger, jewish, etc etc.

no one wants to take responsibility for this guy. I maybe wrong but i think that was where she was headed.

184 well, the MSM is keeping up its duty to be shitheads.

185 So, who is the Timmy sockpuppet?  Erg?

186

They said that he had been in the army since 9-11. Did the army pay for his medical degree? If they did, how many years does someone owe the army for that? Did he not have a chance to get out since we went to Afghanistan? Did he think he would never get deployed or did he think Obama would pull out immediately and stay in?

I don't want to hear how he was mistreated. That was a story to try to get out of getting deployed.

It can't be easy to get a poor performance appriasal. And they were going to send this shithead to aid our troops? WTF

187 The numbers still don't make sense. 
Two handguns causing more than 40 casualties?!

188 Yes I'm irritated enough to send a post with no words.

189 What did I miss?

190

On a side note those turks are crazy. I saw photos of their "peace keepers" holding the bodies of dead bosnian serbs over fires like they were cooking them. 

Posted by: Ben at November 05, 2009 09:44 PM (bftbi)

Turks are Muslim.

 

 

i know that. Bosnian serbs are not muslims.

191 I can't actually watch Keith Olberman as it would make me go find him and choke the fucking life out of him.  So.  I don't.

The worst part is when he comes on NBC football as a commentator at half time...  I have to switch the channel.  He's that much of a fucking cockholster.  I envision Trinity beating him to death with the hammer from Dexter.  It's that bad.

192 From the photos, Jihad-Boy looked an awful like Uncle Fester from the Addams Family TV show. Bet that film of rage he looked through was pretty milky.

193 Do terrorist attacks require complete filings of all required forms, stamped with official Al Kida symbols before our powers that be acknowledge the obvious?

No. That wouldn't in and of itself make it a terrorist attack. We'd still have to deny it was terrorism and then investigate. Just for a couple of years or so.

194

They said that he had been in the army since 9-11. Did the army pay for his medical degree? If they did, how many years does someone owe the army for that? Did he not have a chance to get out since we went to Afghanistan? Did he think he would never get deployed or did he think Obama would pull out immediately and stay in?

I don't want to hear how he was mistreated. That was a story to try to get out of getting deployed.

It can't be easy to get a poor performance appriasal. And they were going to send this shithead to aid our troops? WTF

Dags, he is a pre 911 soldier. at least from what i read.

195 What can be done to help this woman, this HERO Who stopped this monster.

196

I blame Bush!

 

OsamaHusseinIslamObama  2012'

(the terrorist-Uighur-ACORN-media choice)

-It's never too early to campaign-  

197
Falling on a grenade is a spontaneous act, dictated by the moment, and the savage possibilites a armed grenade can create. Perfectly moral, sympathetic people dive the other way. I guess you can't really ask a guy who fell on a grenade why he did it. He didn't exactly make a video beforehand.

198

187 The numbers still don't make sense. 
Two handguns causing more than 40 casualties?!

That's what I keep thinking too.  I'm no fucking expert, but that just doesn't sound right to me.

199 I think there is a bear in India we can introduce this motherfucker to.

200 Ain't it time for the Overnight Thread? I feel like I've given this murderous too much of my time & attention already.

201  The numbers still don't make sense. 
Two handguns causing more than 40 casualties?!

That's what I keep thinking too.  I'm no fucking expert, but that just doesn't sound right to me.

 

20 round mags? I own a 1911 and i've only seen 9 round mags. Do they make larger capacity ones?

I can't imagine this guy had time to reload more than once. He must have hit with every show

202 Put some money in an envelope and I will take care of it.

203 And who the fuck gives creedence to this whole 'I got mistreated' shit, anyway?  If you can't handle verbal abuse among your team, how can you stand up to psychological abuse at the hand of the enemy?  On the overall scale, 'my feeling were hurt' is pretty fucking weak.

204 Fuck'em.  _{(Seething and barely constrained.)}

205 The only thing I can think of is ricochet and perhaps collateral damage from somebody firing back at him. Still, I can't quite wrap my head around the idea there was only one shooter.

206 Not a terrorist attack?

Not a terrorist attack.  Because we won and I say so. 

207

#186

 Did the army pay for his medical degree?

It appears that the answer is YES!

208 The one objection I had to the whole "Bush kept us safe for 7 years after 9/11"was that they neglected to call a spade a spade.There were several terrorist attacks by individuals,which are much harder to stop them group attacks.This PC bullshit about the "religion of peace"simply must end.

209 Sounds like this guy was a known commodity and nothing was done about it. Now isn't that just fucking wonderful. We don't want to hurt anyone's feeling now do we.

210 Falling on a grenade is a spontaneous act, dictated by the moment, and the savage possibilites a armed grenade can create. Perfectly moral, sympathetic people dive the other way. I guess you can't really ask a guy who fell on a grenade why he did it. He didn't exactly make a video beforehand.

I've always envisioned it as a "
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. final question. 

211

The numbers still don't make sense. 
Two handguns causing more than 40 casualties?!

About the same number at the Virginia Tech shootings, no?

212 To me, the fact that this guy was responsible for the mental well being of soldiers is more alarming.  Any and all recommendations made by this fucker need to be reviewed.

213 "Promoting your sworn enemy into the ranks of your own military is not a winning strategy."

I was going to include this in my book, but it seemed like a no-brainer at the time.

214

When did Drudge become so irrellevant? He doesn't even have up the new information.

215 56 Fox News website says "Cousin Says Military Doc ID'd as Gunman Was Harassed, Feared Deployment" ...sounds like they're already trying to paint him as the victim.

An Army officer who knew the shooter says the harassment claims were bullshit.  So who to believe?  Hasan's cousin or an Army officer who worked with the bastard?  Hmmmm...

216 Hannity juat said he did nit act alone

217 If you can't handle verbal abuse among your team, how can you stand up to psychological abuse at the hand of the enemy?

I spent a lovely week in the field when the psy-ops had some honking Metallica sized speakers in the trees blaring the sound of a baby crying.

24/7

Yeah.

Deal with it, tubby.

218

I can't imagine this guy had time to reload more than once. He must have hit with every show

Which I heard a so called expert say earlier on Fox was really almost impossible.  Twelve dead, 31 wounded?  With 2 handguns?  Does. Not. Compute.

219 Are we sure that all the injured were actually shot?  Imagine the stampede that may have followed the first shots.  Here's hoping that some of the injuries are more along the lines of getting trampled in the rush.

220

His posts about suicide bombings mean nothing. Nothing!

Glenn Beck and the teabaggers are to blame!

Wingers! Racists!

Noam Chomskey!

221 Again, This piece of shit was a MAJOR.  How much "abuse and mistreatment" can one give a Major?  You know, before ending up in the brig?

222 206 Not a terrorist attack?

Not a terrorist attack.  Because we won and I say so. 
Posted by: Eric Holder

Friendly Muslim Fire. FMF baby.

223 This guy isn't a serial killer, as Gacy, Dahmer, Wayne Williams, and Bundy were. I don't think he can even really be classed as a spree killer, since such people are usually highly disorganized and attack at random. Serial killers tend to strike in their own ethnic and social groups, and do so one-on-one. Their crimes are nearly always sexual in nature. Spree killers not so much, but again, spree killers are highly disorganized, act on impulse, and often have diagnosed or undiagnosed mental illnesses (Whitman had a brain tumor, discovered post-mortem).

Hasan was pretty clearly organized, and acted with intent and forethought. Apparently he had a pattern of behavior going back several months if not years. (This reflects badly on the Army medical wing, and I imagine that some tough questions are going to be posed in the coming days and weeks.) Given what we now know, it's pretty clear that this was a case of what Michelle Malkin calls "Sudden Jihad Syndrome".

It is his religion and not his race that matters most here, though the MSM will do their best to ignore it.

224 Alive?

Does he need a transfusion?

I want to help.

225 They said that he had been in the army since 9-11. Did the army pay for his medical degree? If they did, how many years does someone owe the army for that? Did he not have a chance to get out since we went to Afghanistan? Did he think he would never get deployed or did he think Obama would pull out immediately and stay in?

According to a link I have in the last thread, he went to the military's medical school and graduated in 2003. So that seems to mean that he started before September 11, 2001. And yes, as I read and understand the regs, he should have still owned more time.

I can post the links if anybody wants them. One to info that most likely is about him, one on the med school terms and service obligations.

226 20 round mags? I own a 1911 and i've only seen 9 round mags. Do they make larger capacity ones?

My XD came with a 16-round mag, and the dude had two guns, but still. I want more details.

227 I spent a lovely week in the field when the psy-ops had some honking Metallica sized speakers in the trees blaring the sound of a baby crying.

I'd try not to listen to an Obama speech, it might bring it all back.

228 Castration followed by scourging and crucifixion. Much more fitting punishment.

229 Today has been a terrible day for our national security and the security of our soldiers here at home.

This morning I heard how a group of senior citizens, aged 60-80 breeched a secure area in a Washington military facility where 1/4 of our nukes are stored where they loitered around for near 4 hours ad we're finally detected when they breached an inner fence.................using nothing but a pair of bolt cutters.

Then this afternoon we have a Major of the armed forces who apparently is a loon, they knew he was unstable, they knew he made comments that shot up huge red flags and yet he was assigned to Fort Hood where his warped ideology was allowed to fester until he went on his killing spree.

Things need to be tightened up and in a rather big way or we can expect more of the same.

230

baldi.

don't even think you are responsible for others. if that's where you were going. each man owns his soul. period.

i think malik= molech

231 I have to say this:  I'm really glad this guy isn't black.

Posted by: baldilocks at November 05, 2009 09:24 PM (io7pd)

WTF ? Her true colors shine right here and you  guys are dumping on me.

Is this not the pc crap we have been railing against since this crap has happened ?

232 I'd try not to listen to an Obama speech, it might bring it all back.
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max

Point

233 Yeah, how did he do it?  There HAD to be more gunmen...  Even if he had extra clips, wouldn't someone have jumped him while he was re-loading?

234 Steyn wrote:

"you're right that there's something deeply weird about the media's instinctive avoidance of the M-word or the T-word and the careless abandon with which they speculate about "post-traumatic stress disorder" even as the emerging facts render it absurd (a three-man conspiracy to commit PTSD?)."

Ok, I know what the M-word is, but what's the T-word? 

Sorry for being a dope.

235 Geraldine Ferraro on Hannity defending the the shooter.

Is anyone surprised?

236 For those who are glad that he is 'alive' so that we can get to the bottom of what his motives were....
THERE IS NOTHING THAT WE WILL LEARN OF THIS OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT THE GUY IS A JIHADI WHO WANTED TO KILL AMERICA SOLDIERS!!!!
He's a frickin terrorist...plain and simple.
Maybe, just maybe, he didn't act alone, as the lame ass media keeps saying....and he will implicate others.
But since we can't waterboard him, that won't be likely!

237 @169 "My ex-wife, may she fester, went to a Jane Wayne Day, where they let the spouses play with our toys when she was 8 months pregnant. She dug a whole out for her tummy, got behind the pig, and rocked out a belt like she'd been doing it her whole life."

I have no earthly idea what that means.  But from what I gather you don't like your ex-wife, and that she did something to do with a pig, while she was pregnant, and included a belt.  And that it was impressive.

(I'm a moronette, btw)

238 I have PTSD from listening to my patients' real-life stories. And mean things were said to me on the base. Then a girl shot me. Pity me.

239 more details from wapo---

Palestinian West Bank parents, "very devout" Muslim...

Hasan is a U.S. citizen, according to Virginia voting records, and his parents are Palestinians from the West Bank, according to his aunt, Noel Hasan of Falls Church. He was born at Arlington Hospital Center.

Hasan, 39, had lived in Montgomery County, Md., and Arlington, Va., in addition to Roanoke and nearby Vinton, Va. He graduated from Virginia Tech and earned his medical degree at Bethesda's Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences, records show.

Hasan attended the Muslim Community Center in Silver Spring and was "very devout," according to Faizul Khan, a former imam at the center. Khan said Hasan attended prayers at least once a day, seven days a week, often in his Army fatigues.

Khan also said Hasan applied to an annual matrimonial seminar that matches Muslims looking for spouses. "I don't think he ever had a match, because he had too many conditions," Khan said.

"We never got into details of worldly affairs or politics," the former imam said of his conversations with Hasan. "Mostly religious questions. But there was nothing extremist in his questions. He never showed any frustration. . . . He never showed any . . . wish for vengeance on anybody."

However, a fellow Army officer who worked with Hasan told Fox News Channel that Hasan had expressed strong opposition to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"He would make comments to other individuals about how we should not be in the war in the first place," Col. Terry Lee told the network. "He made those comments, and he stuck strongly to his faith, but as soldiers we have a duty to follow orders from our commander in chief, and our political views are set aside."

U.S. counterterrorism officials said it was too early to draw conclusions about the Fort Hood incident, but one senior official said he did not believe there had been any specific warnings to military installations or similar facilities about this type of attack.

240

When did Drudge become so irrellevant? He doesn't even have up the new information.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 05, 2009 09:56 PM (6Z4n6)

It's like the guy is in a freakin' stupor 23 hours a day.  Ever since Breitbart got so busy with his new sites, Drudge isn't exactly on the crest of the breaking news wave.

241

When did Drudge become so irrellevant? He doesn't even have up the new information.

i brought this up a while ago. he doesn't update it anymore. He didn't report the van jones resignation until several days later. His website started to slide after Breitbart left and started his own site.

242 Also - can we now finally get rid of Political Correctness?

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say there is a chance that there are dead soldiers today because of questions not asked and statements not reported due to PC concerns.

I don't want to be inflammatory or anything, and a lot remains to be investigated, but seems like maybe there were things along the way that should have been "deal breakers" to his career.

243 Ok, I know what the M-word is, but what's the T-word?

Terrorist.

244

I am happy he is alive.  Let's see where this goes.  He killed 12 people. You cannot hide this.

This could create the political stink we need. 

245

Palestinian West Bank parents, "very devout" Muslim...

 

thanks. all i needed to know.

246

He was a Major, he could reload two clips before anyone realized what was happening.  That's 40 rounds.  If he walks out, wearing insignia, he can unleash another clip or two.

Think!

247 T is for Terrorist.

248 So when the question of whether this demon gets the death penalty comes up, and President Toonces goes soft, does our military turn against the CiC?

249 ...but what's the T-word?

Cocksucker.  No wait, that's Cocksucking Terrorist.

250 *growl*

I spit on the Obama Administration and this fuckhole killer.

251

For the record, I didn't let this ruin my night out with my wife and kids.  But dammit, I really wanted it to.

And when I left the news loop around 430 PM, there were two simultaneous shootings, then a third shooting a little later.  Bullshit?  Or what?

252 27 I have to say this: I'm really glad this guy isn't black.

Posted by: baldilocks at November 05, 2009 09:24 PM (io7pd) 

I seem to recall a Chris Rock routine on SNL like this.  It'd be funnier were it not for the circumstances.

I also echo a holding of fire upon Baldilocks.  Chill out, Blazer.

253 This cousin whining to Shep about deploying being Hasan's "worst nightmare"is total BS.  The man was a frikkin' Major who could have resigned his commission at any time.  And what's with these people joining and staying in the the military and not wanting the go to war???  How can anybody say that with a straight face?  Memo to MSM hacks: the entire purpose of the military is to fight and win wars!

254 Ok, I know what the M-word is, but what's the T-word? 

Sorry for being a dope.

Posted by: mark at November 05, 2009 09:59 PM (Wquex)

T for Terrorist.

255 Too bad the Democrats in the House rejected the Rooney Amendment to the Hate Crimes Legislation that just passed in the Defense Bill since that would've have SPECIFICALLY applied in this case.

256 As to his rank: if a person enters the service with an M.D., or goes through medical school on an enlistment contract, they are commissioned as Captains when they enter the service (or is it a First Looie? I forget.) Anyway, it's pretty common for military doctors to be Majors. IIt's more of an admin or XO rank. If a field officer is a Major, he's usually a battallion or brigade XO. The next step up is Lt. Colonel, and this is more usual for an officer in command of troops.

It goes like this, for combat and field commands:

2nd Lt. - Platoon Commander
1st Lt. - Company XO (usually)
Captain - Company Commander
Major - Battallion/Brigade XO (usually)
Lt. Colonel - Battallion/Brigade Commander
Brigadier Gen. - Brigade/Division Commander

However, on the admin side of things, Captains and above usually hold higher administrative positions without being in direct command of troops.

257 Hannity just had Geraldine Ferraro on his panel babbling about finding out what the shooter knows... harassment... blah, blah.  Geraldine is the dumbest woman to run for Vice President by a country mile.

258 I have no earthly idea what that means.  But from what I gather you don't like your ex-wife, and that she did something to do with a pig, while she was pregnant, and included a belt.  And that it was impressive.

(I'm a moronette, btw)
Posted by: Intrepid

Heh, my ex-wife, may she fester, climbed behind the pig, a M-60 machine gun, fired a belt of ammunition and did it well.

May she rot.

259

Oh crap,irony fail on my part, I see what baldilocks was doing there.

Sorry, baldi, been a tough day.

260 A doctor who is a Major would very likely be posted in a very safe area and given authority over Corps wide medical operations and direct command over a large base medical operation. 

I hate to say it, but we may be better off with him snapping now rather than being in a position to effect widespread sabotage of medical operations in the field where he could have killed hundreds via various methods were he subtle and clever about it.

This sucks, bad, but it could have been a LOT worse if he wasn't an imbecile.

261

Sounds like the army wasn't going to let this asshole stay stateside after investing so much money in him. The more he complained the more likely they were going to make sure he did his duty.

 

262

For Fox's sake I hope they verified the bona fides of Col. Terry Lee (ret.), as that name and rank sound suspiciously like the eponymous hero in the old comic strip "Terry and the Pirates".

Also: did the Army pay for Hasan to go to medical school in Damascus?  Doesn't seem likely.

There are a lot of unanswered questions here.

Seems wise to hold fire until we get some.

263

OK. Last night I asked Ace to give me my body back, it was clearly posted on the flame war. 

So what happens? 

I get dragged out like a democrat vote whore three times in less than 24 hours, and still, no body.

I not a complainer, I am team player, but really don't you think I could a) get my body back and b) some union rules here, like only once a day must I show myself?

I tried, that flame shit burns.

264

WTF ? Her true colors shine right here and you  guys are dumping on me.

Is this not the pc crap we have been railing against since this crap has happened ?

You know, my first thought was that he was a Black Muslim convert who changed his name too. I *am* rather glad that he's not an African American convert, but rather an Arab American who was Muslim all along (and yes, I know most Arab Americans are of Lebanese Christian heritage, at least I think they are)

265 Is this not the pc crap we have been railing against since this crap has happened ?

No, I took her point as: "I'm glad this isn't some goofy-ass jihadier-than-thou black convert to Islam,  but rather some Syrian jackass that doesn't look a bit like me and my family"

The whole guilt-by-association thang. Seeing as I have the same last name as a prominent Chicago crime family, I know it can get a little stale. Although I always get great service at Italian restaurants.............

266 He admired suicide bombers?  He was a Muslim extremist?  Absurd!  That kind of unwarranted speculation is typical of conservative blogs rather than professional journalists like myself.  Charles Johnson and I both agree that it would be quite impossible for a nearly 40-year-old Army major to be a misunderstander of the Religion of Peace.

No, it is entirely obvious that he is one of the Boyz from the Hood with a bad case of PTSD.  The only real questions are whether he was a member of the Bloods, the Crips or, perhaps, MS-13 and whether it was a deployment to Afghanistan or Iraq that left him with his PTSD.

267

I can't imagine this guy had time to reload more than once. He must have hit with every show

Which I heard a so called expert say earlier on Fox was really almost impossible.  Twelve dead, 31 wounded?  With 2 handguns?  Does. Not. Compute.

Remember, they originally reported the guy dead, so it doesn't mean they don't have another guy in custody being "interviewed".

268 This is what the Marine Corps Army told me at the highest level. The Commandant of the Marine Corps Commander of Ft Hood was in my office just last week today, so you know. I know there was is a cover-up someplace. They knew about this a few days hours afterwards and there’s no question the chain of command tried to stifle the story. I can understand why, but that doesn’t excuse it. Something like this has to be brought out to the public, and the people have to be punished.

He was a Muslim? Those comments were off the record.

The shooting of Major Akbar was a hate crime, which will be prosecuted to the fuillest extent of the law, thanks to the recently passed Defense Authorization bill.

269 248 So when the question of whether this demon gets the death penalty comes up, and President Toonces goes soft, does our military turn against the CiC?

Posted by: Jon Beer at November 05, 2009 10:01 PM (rlrlU)

Do you think that Eric Holder will even allow this specimen to be charged with treason?  Much less face the death penalty for mass murder?

270 198

187 The numbers still don't make sense. 
Two handguns causing more than 40 casualties?!

That's what I keep thinking too.  I'm no fucking expert, but that just doesn't sound right to me.

 

See: Virginia Tech massacre,  32 dead with two hand guns.

271  have to say this:  I'm really glad this guy isn't black.

Posted by: baldilocks at November 05, 2009 09:24 PM (io7pd)

WTF ? Her true colors shine right here and you  guys are dumping on me.

Is this not the pc crap we have been railing against since this crap has happened ?

 

Dude, I would never dump on you man. Let me ask you this, when you first heard the news did you say to yourself, "i hope this wasn't a ptsd case, I hope this wasn't a right winger, etc"

I think she was just saying she was glad he wasn't black because its an embarrasment to blacks if he was. Honestly i don't think she meant it in any other way.

272 got behind the pig

For those who don't know: "the pig" is what grunts called the M-60 machine-gun back in the day. It's been replaced by the SAW now, but lots of the older guys remember "the pig".

273

As much as I like the baseball bat idea, I'm glad the UCMJ applies. I want this to go to the natural conclusion - room temperature.

274 With the location being in Texas and their being civilians involved, if the Fed don't do it, Texas will take this fucker out.  May even need to bring Old Sparky back for this one, with the voltage set for Slow and Painful.

275 Again, This piece of shit was a MAJOR.  How much "abuse and mistreatment" can one give a Major?  You know, before ending up in the brig?

Posted by: Techie at November 05, 2009 09:57 PM (cxW4X)

You should have seen some of the shit we pulled on a former Squadron OC.  

Good times.

276

20 round mags? I own a 1911 and i've only seen 9 round mags. Do they make larger capacity ones?

I can't imagine this guy had time to reload more than once. He must have hit with every show

You can get 33 round magazines for a Glock 9mm. I've only seen one before, but I don't own that weapon and I haven't been in a gun store in years so I don't know their availability, but I do know they exist. Easier to acquire are 15 or 17 round magazines.

He had two pistols, right? So with 17-round magazines you're looking at 36 total rounds before you have to reload (17 in each mag and 2 in each chamber).

It's possible that multiple people could have been hit by single rounds, or that people were in such a small area at close range that it was easy to hit them.

277 the bastard was happy about the little rock shooting....and he was somehow not drummed out of the military? And teh suicide bomber posts?

WTF??????????????????????????????????????????????????

278 Max, i hear ya.

279 You know, my first thought was that he was a Black Muslim convert who changed his name too. I *am* rather glad that he's not an African American convert, but rather an Arab American who was Muslim all along (and yes, I know most Arab Americans are of Lebanese Christian heritage, at least I think they are)

Are black converts going to become the same problem as born Muslims? A lot of them come out of our prison systems and I think it's going to become a legitimate concern right now if it isn't already. Well, I'm sure it's also something that will never see the light of day.

280

Media: PTSD is a communicable disease.

 

281 PC = Death.

282

When did Drudge become so irrellevant? He doesn't even have up the new information.

i brought this up a while ago. he doesn't update it anymore. He didn't report the van jones resignation until several days later. His website started to slide after Breitbart left and started his own site.

Posted by: Ben

Is that it? I thought Drudge had switched over to the "e is for entertainment" variety of hollywood drivel kind of news, that isn't.

283 For those who don't know: "the pig" is what grunts called the M-60 machine-gun back in the day. It's been replaced by the SAW now, but lots of the older guys remember "the pig".

Posted by: Monty

Well done, though we carry the SAW and the M-240B now. 240 fires 7.62 but has the cyclic rate of a SAW.

Yes, you may masturbate.

284 Seeing as I have the same last name as a prominent Chicago crime family, I know it can get a little stale. Although I always get great service at Italian restaurants.............

Capone, Accardo, Aiuppa, Giancana, Ricca, Alderisio or Nitti?

285

Didn't the FBI declare it wasn't terrorism before they even got there?

Didn't act alone....he had friends from the mosque? How many disaffected Muslim jihadist medical terrorists could be at ft hood all at the same time?

286 Sadly stuiec, no. God help us. Time to drink.

287 If anyone needs further evidence of political correctness and multiculturalism killing Western civilization, all you have to do is look at Great Britain.

288 Re "the pig": our company had an old M60 that we took on our field jaunts. I don't know if it was the shitty ammo we had, but you could run maybe 100 rounds through it before it would begin to chug and bind up. "Oh, shit, the pig's dyin'," our Top would say.

289 I heard that the Military has put together a special breakfast menu for this bastard:

Servin' up bacon...Army style.

290 This guy was just scared I'd make him eat my puss

291 My great-grandfather was an Army Doctor and retired a Lt. Col.  He was at Okinawa and went ashore with the 3rd wave.

Doctor's gotta give a lot of orders.  He once told me "They gave me the rank, I had to work for the damned medical degree."

292 is there any later information than 2009 on this guy?

293

So we shouldn't hear any international objections to the Army and/or CIA waterboarding the shooter...after all, he's an "American Soldier"...

Motherfuckingcocksuckingsonofabitch (Sorry Ace, couldn't help myself)

 

294

And when I left the news loop around 430 PM, there were two simultaneous shootings, then a third shooting a little later.  Bullshit?  Or what?

Posted by: Truman North at November 05, 2009 10:02 PM (XH/G

Apparently the latest is that Hassan opened fire in the Soldier Preparedness Center on the soldiers awaiting dental and medical services, then ducked into an adjacent building and opened fire in a second location.  I would speculate that he reloaded while moving between buildings.

The fact that he fired in two locations seems to be what led to the report of a second gunman.  Earlier someone said that the report of a third gunman was really a second eyewitness report from the second shooting location.

295

20 round mags? I own a 1911 and i've only seen 9 round mags. Do they make larger capacity ones?

I can't imagine this guy had time to reload more than once. He must have hit with every show

You can get 33 round magazines for a Glock 9mm. I've only seen one before, but I don't own that weapon and I haven't been in a gun store in years so I don't know their availability, but I do know they exist. Easier to acquire are 15 or 17 round magazines.

He had two pistols, right? So with 17-round magazines you're looking at 36 total rounds before you have to reload (17 in each mag and 2 in each chamber).

It's possible that multiple people could have been hit by single rounds, or that people were in such a small area at close range that it was easy to hit them.

.45 rounds are huge. they said they were model 1911. i don't know if they have extended mags, i am assuming they do, but i haven't seen them.

296

Dude, I would never dump on you man. Let me ask you this, when you first heard the news did you say to yourself, "i hope this wasn't a ptsd case, I hope this wasn't a right winger, etc"

I think she was just saying she was glad he wasn't black because its an embarrasment to blacks if he was. Honestly i don't think she meant it in any other way.

Posted by: Ben at November 05, 2009 10:05 PM (bftbi)

Was Ted Bundy or Henry Lee Lucas an emabarrasment to whites?

How about a total embarsament to the human race no matter what the color of the perpetrator is ?

297 May God in heaven allow this man to live and recover fully enough to 1.  Completely cop to doing this for fanatical Islam in the service of allah.  And 2.  Be introduced to his 72 goats by military death sentence. 

298

Shot by a woman.  That's gonna set well with 'em.

I gotta see that hero.  She fragged his ass.  First one on the scene.

299 The usual playbook will now be run.  A few comments made him murder a dozen people and wound a few dozen more.  It's the fault of the American people for being Islamophobic.  Nobody ever asks why the infidels are so peaceful given the never-ending incitement, hatred, and outright murder by Muslims.  The double standard is standard.  Not a single 9/11 family member has committed one act of violence against a Muslim.  And that goes for every major terror attack in the last thirty years.  Muslims, OTOH, fire at will when they feel like it.     

I am interested to see whether Hasan plays the insanity card or actually uses the court proceedings to preach jihad like so many others have done.

And of course, as I said it would be, his real motive was the holy Muslim land, poor innocent Muslims just defending themselves garbage I've read countless  times before.  The Dirty Kuffar should stay in their own countries. 

I think it's time to apply their rules to them on our land.  Think about it.  The planet has so much land.  We're prohibited from stepping on their holy ground while they move here at will.  Project that out a few generations and it's not America Alone, but Islam Alone.       

300 As to his rank: if a person enters the service with an M.D., or goes through medical school on an enlistment contract, they are commissioned as Captains when they enter the service (or is it a First Looie? I forget.)

Yeh, Captain. Graduated in 2003, then internship, residency and a fellowship.

301 This whole thing stinks to high Heaven.

302 isn't it 2009?

303 Two words:
Abdul Haq

304

#256

So Monty, every heard of the rank Colonel? not as in Colonel Sanders.  

 They fit between LT C and B General, for your information.

 

305 Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 09:58 PM (+FzLa)

Blazer, you are reading stuff there that doesn't exist. Cool your jets.

If you want further explanation from her, just ask without the insults.

306 How many damn shooters were there? How many locations were there?  Please, I know this is now old news for some folks, but I've been out on the town shopping for goddamned eyeglasses and action figures with a gloating Yankee fan and two cranky kids

307

292 is there any later information than 2009 on this guy?

Like from the future?

308 can you imagine being EMT, a nurse or doctor that has to treat this fuck?? what an awful job.

309 I question the timing.

310

Seeing as I have the same last name as a prominent Chicago crime family, I know it can get a little stale. Although I always get great service at Italian restaurants.............

Capone, Accardo, Aiuppa, Giancana, Ricca, Alderisio or Nitti?

Boyardee

311 Attached to a rack and a cattle prod to his balls until screams
the real reason why he did this. Then death by hanging.

312 I've got a Springfield XM .40S&W pistol that has a 16-round mag. It's not unusual to see nines these days with 20- or even 30-round extender mags (though they're not legal in all states). I don't like the extender mags because a) they fuck up the pistol's balance and aren't particularly good for the pistol, and b) if you need more than twenty fucking shots to put someone down, you need to spend more time on the shootin' range. Either that, or you shoulda brought your AR along to take care of the heavier work.

My platoon sergeant used to say that your pistol was good for one thing only: providing cover until you could get back to your rifle.

313

is there any later information than 2009 on this guy?

Of course, but it would mess up the time continum if I told you.

314 Truman, he was the only one.  The cop who shot him lived too.

315 This guy was just scared I'd make him eat my puss

Posted by: Lyndie England at November 05, 2009 10:09 PM (KoOdq)

Is she out of the stockade yet? I think she got a raw deal.

316 I don't know that the typical spin will work in this instance. Despite what the academics and whizurds of smurts would have us believe most Americans still respect the military, even if they might not agree with the specific combat. If they try to spin this one too hard, combined with the dissatisfaction out there expressed by the Tea Parties, who know what could happen?

317
What is it with you people?  I have two 30 round Glock magazines, do a little research.   What exactly are you trying to say by worrying so much about whether he used a pistol, that you think there were multiple shooters and it's being covered up already?  Then say it.  Honestly, we don't yet know what the fuck is going on yet, everything is conjecture.  Shit the guy was dead less than 2 hours ago, now he's still alive.  We don't know jack shit as yet, so just relax. 

318 Of course, the International Red Cross Crescent will DEMAND to visit him periodically to make sure we're not mistreating him, and the UN will dispatch a "Human Rights Commissioner."

319 Now that dems control the country and of course the media the fallout with this is going to be incomprehensible. Very little affects me emotionally but I feel sick right now. Damn.

320 313

is there any later information than 2009 on this guy?

Of course, but it would mess up the time continum if I told you

I would just fire up the flux capacitor but the libyans took back the fuel rods and sold them to the iranians

321 "186
They said that he had been in the army since 9-11. Did the army pay for his medical degree? If they did, how many years does someone owe the army for that? Did he not have a chance to get out since we went to Afghanistan? Did he think he would never get deployed or did he think Obama would pull out immediately and stay in?"

A year for a year of school, and a year for a year of residency and fellowship. No. A lot of people think they won't get deployed, a lot are surprised where they find themselves.

322 Blazer, you are reading stuff there that doesn't exist. Cool your jets.

If you want further explanation from her, just ask without the insults.

Posted by: krakatoa at November 05, 2009 10:12 PM (n4Su9)

What insults krak? See, this is exactly the pc AA crap that needs to be dissolved.

323 is there any later information than 2009 on this guy?

Yes, Hasan died an untimely death sometime before 2019.  That is all I'm willing to divulge at this time.

324 Alive for now,   I say hang him old school...

Posted by: TheGarbone at November 05, 2009 09:18 PM (IXHNi)

I still think Pershing had the right idea in the Phillipines: Line up a firing squad, show the bastards the bullets being dipped in pigs blood, and shoot ALL but 1, so he can tell the rest.

325 277 the bastard was happy about the little rock shooting....and he was somehow not drummed out of the military? And teh suicide bomber posts?

WTF??????????????????????????????????????????????????

Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 05, 2009 10:06 PM (5r0Tz)

Would you want to be the Army officer who singled out a Muslim doctor with the rank of Major for special scrutiny?  It would likely have been a career-limiting move, and quite possibly not have resulted in Maj. Hassan being separated from service.

326 Two handguns causing more than 40 casualties?

A Beretta 92F mag holds about 15 rounds.  If you're good, that's only two mag changes @2-4 seconds per.  When I've been practicing I can do it under 2.  A zombie can do it in 4 seconds.

Don't even need two guns, one could do it if you've brushed up on mag change technique.  If you've gotten some good tactical instruction, its not too hard to get under 2 seconds/swap either if the spare is already in your non-shooting hand and you've positioned it correctly.

327 I'm wondering if Col. Lee wishes he wouldn't have been so forthcoming in his condemning information now that Hasan is still alive.  

Izis him? http://www.thewashingtoninstitute.org/templateC10.php?CID=69

328 Well this is lovely news. 

Investigate the crap out of his family.

And his "spiritual leader." 

329 Capone, Accardo, Aiuppa, Giancana, Ricca, Alderisio or Nitti?

So my meat-space name is Maximillo Alphonso Antonio Francesco Niccolo Spilatro. With "uncles" like that, would you forget one of them??

330 First info, then a long drop from a short rope.

331

thank you, my frien.

Although I always get great service at Italian restaurants.............

Capone, Accardo, Aiuppa, Giancana, Ricca, Alderisio or Nitti?

Boyardee

Anybody else ever wonder why italian food is made by Fracno-American?

And what would happen to those delicious little Spaghetti-O's if Franco-American relations broke down?

I'm absolutely damn sure I'm gonna blame Obama.

 

re: this golem in custody... someone snarked that the President is going to apologize and give Texas back to it's rightful Arab owners.  I don't think you're too far from wrong.  The Caliphate is going to be getting a HUGE reward over this one.  Make no mistake. 

332 Was there a grassy knoll nearby?  I sense Oliver Stone getting all worked up.

333 The amount of wrong information so far put out by the media is almost approaching Katrina levels.

334 324 Alive for now,   I say hang him old school...

Posted by: TheGarbone at November 05, 2009 09:18 PM (IXHNi)

I still think Pershing had the right idea in the Phillipines: Line up a firing squad, show the bastards the bullets being dipped in pigs blood, and shoot ALL but 1, so he can tell the rest.

Posted by: San Diego Chicken at November 05, 2009 10:15 PM (ySQRj)

Just a standard firing squad will suffice.  Now, if the members of the firing squad all go out for bacon cheeseburgers before the event, and then load the cartridges into their weapons with their bare hands, well, that's not against regulations, is it?

335 So my meat-space name is Maximillo Alphonso Antonio Francesco Niccolo Spilatro. With "uncles" like that, would you forget one of them??

Spilotro "The Ant," huh?

336

292 is there any later information than 2009 on this guy?

Like from the future?

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2009 10:12 PM (w+74r)

sorry a brain misfire i meant earlier. i was still worried about about an earlier comment that had ben made. (don't hate me cuz i can be stupid)

337 So Monty, every heard of the rank Colonel? not as in Colonel Sanders. 

How the hell did I leave that out? I guess because I never saw a full-bird, ever, the whole time. Lt. Col's seem to have to do the dirty field work; the full-birds are busy trying to get their star.

Seriously, though: is Colonel considered a field command or an HQ command? Brigade-level commands sometimes go to Colonels, but isn't that (duh) a Brigadier billet? Given the new Brigade-centric structure of the Army, it seems like either Colonels or Brigadiers would get the shaft in that arrangement.

338 @326

Yeah, bbbbut PurpleAvenger, his cousin assured us that he didn't even like to shoot target practice! 

Obviously there was a second gunman. 

That's right.  Dick Cheney. 

339 Coming soon on MSNBC:  "America's Military:  War Criminals or Racist Thugs?  Olbermann Reports!"

340

Would you want to be the Army officer who singled out a Muslim doctor with the rank of Major for special scrutiny?  It would likely have been a career-limiting move, and quite possibly not have resulted in Maj. Hassan being separated from service.

Posted by: stuiec at November 05, 2009 10:15 PM (rBLs5)

There are ways to drop dimes on your superiors and remain anonymous.

341 the brits just had their rogue-sleeper base shooting... and aq HATES on symmetric attacks.

342 The amount of wrong information so far put out by the media is almost approaching Katrina levels.

Yes, it may have surpassed Jena Six levels, but I'm not sure just yet.

343
Would you want to be the Army officer who singled out a Muslim doctor with the rank of Major for special scrutiny?

Shit, if the CiC were doing their job, or rather, being ALLOWED to do their job, this mutt would never have been granted a commission.   The military is being run by the same bullshit PC rules as corporate america at this point, they're being mafia's by the lawyers just like the rest of us.

344 Holder right now is chopping this guys Congressional Medal of Honor award submission.  Ayers is ghostwriting it.

345 a general on Greta just said "the guy was specially selected by the army for a free medical education, medical school, residency and internship, and he valued it a half a mil."  some school in Bethesda.  Anyone know about this?

346 The woman that shot him is going to be so damned famous!

347 345 a general on Greta just said "the guy was specially selected by the army for a free medical education, medical school, residency and internship, and he valued it a half a mil."  some school in Bethesda.  Anyone know about this?

Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 10:21 PM (p302b)

Yeah, he spoke Arabic.

348

279 You know, my first thought was that he was a Black Muslim convert who changed his name too. I *am* rather glad that he's not an African American convert, but rather an Arab American who was Muslim all along (and yes, I know most Arab Americans are of Lebanese Christian heritage, at least I think they are)

Are black converts going to become the same problem as born Muslims? A lot of them come out of our prison systems and I think it's going to become a legitimate concern right now if it isn't already. Well, I'm sure it's also something that will never see the light of day.

It will be alot worse if they transfer the Gitmo people to general prison population and they get to work on the black guys 24/7.

349

and give Texas back to it's rightful Arab owners

 

Texas ain't dumbasses to give. 

350 346 The woman that shot him is going to be so damned famous!

Posted by: The Most Interesting Hirsute Man In the World (rdb) at November 05, 2009 10:22 PM (mkihu)

Was Palin moonlighting again?

351 Well what are you implying by "her true colors"?

Baldilock's cred is solid. Maybe you aren't familiar with her, and that's understandable. And it's a volatile subject that's seen its share of trolls, so its understandable you'd be quick to react to some perceived hypocrisy.

But you're off mark here.

352
I never saw a full-bird, ever, the whole time.

Wow, really?  My brigade CO, a full bull Silver Chicken was... are you ready for this?...  WESLEY CLARK.  Saw him all the time at battalion.   Had to drive him around during an ARTEP for a couple of hours.  It sucked.

353 The woman that shot him is going to be so damned famous!

I can't wait for Hugh Hefner to try to get her to pose in Playboy, so she could shoot him and put him out of our misery.

354

WTF ? Her true colors shine right here and you  guys are dumping on me.

Is this not the pc crap we have been railing against since this crap has happened ?

Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 09:58 PM (+FzLa)

WTF are you talking about?  What's wrong with me being glad that the guy isn't black?  How is that wrong?  What "true colors?"

Say it straight out and make sure your not imbuing to me the thought you're making up in that brain of yours, such as it is.

355

.45 rounds are huge. they said they were model 1911. i don't know if they have extended mags, i am assuming they do, but i haven't seen them.

I hadn't heard anything about the caliber of the weapon he used, I just assumed that it would've been something other than .45 with that many rounds shot by one person in a short amount of time. Still, as someone mentioned above, if he could have reloaded while moving from one building to the next.

356 I wonder what kind of "hope and change" interigation techniques will be used on him.   It will be a good test to see how long it takes for him to spew forth good intell with the new techniques.  I bet the war on terror will have been won before he spills the beans.

357

He's still alive?

Damn, that's really gonna fuck up my special comment segement for the next few months.

Ummmm, does anyone know if Jack Ruby is still alive?  I have a ...ummmm... job for him.

358 I still can't believe the press is falling over themselves talking about PTSD with this guy and he has not even been OCONUS in harms way!!!  If anything, he has PEST.

359

He is a member of the Center for the Study of Traumatic Stress which describes itself as "one of the nation's oldest and most highly regarded, academic-based organizations dedicated to advancing trauma-informed knowledge, leadership and methodologies."

Lt. Gen. Bob Cone said all the casualties occurred at the Soldier Readiness Center, where military personnel undergo medical screening.

dallas morning news.

360 Has anyone made the completely irresponsible connection with that imam the FBI shot earlier in the week yet?

361
30 ROUND MAGAZINE FOR GLOCK 17.  IT'S NOT A CONSPIRACY, FOLKS.  Not yet, anyway.  If that cocksucker Holder bothers to look, we can probably find a conspiracy at his mosque.

362 Sorry, baldi, been a tough day.

Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 10:04 PM (+FzLa)

Apology accepted

363 352
I never saw a full-bird, ever, the whole time.

Wow, really?  My brigade CO, a full bull Silver Chicken was... are you ready for this?...  WESLEY CLARK.  Saw him all the time at battalion.   Had to drive him around during an ARTEP for a couple of hours.  It sucked.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 05, 2009 10:23 PM (ghfZz)

Dang, tell me you got hardship pay for that!!

364 Fine, don't call it terrorism -- it's also treason.  He has just levied war against the US.  Execute him by the numbers.

365 >>Is this not the pc crap we have been railing against since this crap has happened ?

Nope.
Look at it this way - the fact that he isn't prevents using his race as a means to excuse him, a la Rev. Sharpton.

Also, racial tensions won't be boiling over this.

I got what Baldi was saying right off. She didn't deserve any of that shit.

Baldi is cool, presents interesting views. She takes enough shit and is braver than most of us, day to day, I'd imagine. She deserves respect.

366

Would you want to be the Army officer who singled out a Muslim doctor with the rank of Major for special scrutiny?  It would likely have been a career-limiting move, and quite possibly not have resulted in Maj. Hassan being separated from service.

Posted by: stuiec at November 05, 2009 10:15 PM (rBLs5)

There are ways to drop dimes on your superiors and remain anonymous.

Posted by: CDR M at November 05, 2009 10:19 PM (cvmTR)

Yes, but the Major's superiors would then have to act.  Here's a rare bird, an Arab-American Muslim doctor whom the Army once decided merited a free education.  To start pointing to his sympathies to Islamic jihadists opens up the floodgates of political correctness and counter-charges that it's racist to assume that American Muslims can't fight against foreign Muslims.  (Never mind that -- so far as I know -- there was never an effort in the wake of 9/11 to form a Muslim analog to the Fighting 442nd Nisei Brigade.)

367 Harrassment can explain why someone would leave the military. But it can't explain a killing spree.

368 Oh, and: baldilocks is good people, the best. No blue-on-blue, folks. Save that shit for the trolls.

369 364 Fine, don't call it terrorism -- it's also treason.  He has just levied war against the US.  Execute him by the numbers.

Posted by: Simon Oliver Lockwood at November 05, 2009 10:27 PM (yXN+m)

They should execute him for this but NO ONE will have the balls to do it and there will be extreme political pressure to NOT to.  Excuse will be that we do not want to fan the flames of Muslim hatred towards the US.

370

Sorry, too lazy to check if this is already posted. Fairly good detail about the shooters attitudes and inclinations. Unbelievable...

http://tiny.cc/DailyMailstory259

371 "260 A doctor who is a Major would very likely be posted in a very safe area and given authority over Corps wide medical operations and direct command over a large base medical operation.

I hate to say it, but we may be better off with him snapping now rather than being in a position to effect widespread sabotage of medical operations in the field where he could have killed hundreds via various methods were he subtle and clever about it.
"

Sorry, not even close, Purple Avenger, for docs in line units, normally, usually, generally, CPT=Battalion/Squadron surgeon, MAJ=Brigade surgeon, LTC=Division surgeon, COL=Corps or higher surgeon. Combat Support Hospital = COL, Forward Surgical Team = LTC (usually). Major garrison hospital or clinic = COL, Medical Center COL or BG, clinic subordinate to a major garrison or MEDCEN = LTC or COL. Some real tiny clinics are MAJ or CPT.

No way a vanilla MAJ doc, particularly one who has never done anything but school and residency, is going to be anywhere near where he could screw up anything major, though I have seen some who tried.

372 320...Ben, that made me laugh and this is not a thread for laughter.  Save that schnizt for appropriate posts so I can roflmao under better circumstances. 

Please God, let him live, recover enough to deliver a 35 minute diatribe on the greatness of allah and the evil of the great satan on Hardball.  Then may the Army let him wear jumper cables for nipple rings. 

373 Dang Straights - you accused me earlier of being a "concern troll" because I asked about the weapons and ammo in this shooting.

Now that others are asking as well - since the General gave the official word that the shooter didn't re-load" - would you like to retract your accusation of me being a concern troll, which I most assuredly am not!!!!

374 339 Coming soon on MSNBC:  "America's Military:  War Criminals or Racist Thugs?  Olbermann Reports!"

No shit, olbie was just on saying that the poor major had to listen to stories of soldiers returning from Iraq and therefore knew what was in store for himself and then he started asking some commentator if the PTSD could be caught from one of these returning soldiers and then blood started shooting from my eyes and the channel suddenly changed from msnbc...

375

Q:  Will Obama make his phone call tonight or in the morning? 

He simply must apologize to Hasan on behalf of the USA.

376

Sorry, baldi, been a tough day.

Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 10:04 PM (+FzLa)

Apology accepted

Posted by: baldilocks at November 05, 2009 10:27 PM (io7pd)

Good. Just don't ever play that pc crap here again.You know what I mean.

377 I hope they HANG him!

378 I think I told a lie: I did see a full-bird one time. We had a special formation to meet troops coming back from Kosovo, and a Colonel came down from Brigade HQ to give everyone their service ribbons. But that's the only time I can remember ever seeing a bird-Colonel 'mongst us grunts.

Bear in mind that I was National Guard, not regular Army, so that probably had something to do with it.

379

Yes, but the Major's superiors would then have to act.  Here's a rare bird, an Arab-American Muslim doctor whom the Army once decided merited a free education.  To start pointing to his sympathies to Islamic jihadists opens up the floodgates of political correctness and counter-charges that it's racist to assume that American Muslims can't fight against foreign Muslims.  (Never mind that -- so far as I know -- there was never an effort in the wake of 9/11 to form a Muslim analog to the Fighting 442nd Nisei Brigade.)

Posted by: stuiec at November 05, 2009 10:28 PM (rBLs5)

True.  I never factor in the PC stuff.  Probably why I'm at terminal pay grade.  Hell I almost got in trouble for trying to deny orders to a Warrant to my maintenance department because she wasn't qualified.  She was black.  Her husband stormed into my office and accused me of racism.  I had to then go to my CO and explain why I didn't want her.  I won that one but I still have to deal with her husband on a daily basis and it's not pretty and he is petty.

380
Yes, but the Major's superiors would then have to act. 

CiC/SI doesn't have to tell anybody jack shit to investigate someone.  At least they used to not have to, no doubt now they have to have the JAG sign off on every speeding ticket that gets written on post.

381 I just hope the chef at the Ft. Hood brig has a lot of recipes for pig's testicles. En casserole. With mushroom sauce. Tossed with penne and cheese. Baked al forno. They're just so versatile!

382 On the number of casualties vs. magazine capacity thing, it's probably quite simple.

FMJs overpenetrating and wounding/killing multiple victims. Ask Zombie John Connally about overpenetrating bullets. There's a reason that Col. Cooper's fourth rule of gun safety is "be sure of your target, and what is beyond it".

383 No problem.  Time to reconcile & make nice.  I'm sure we'll be inundated, with condemnation, after condemnation, from those "moderate" Muslims.  Don't expect Barack Hussein Obama to accuse his own.  Or invoke God's blessings. Maybe Anita Dunn?  Gibbs? 

384 381 I just hope the chef at the Ft. Hood brig has a lot of recipes for pig's testicles. En casserole. With mushroom sauce. Tossed with penne and cheese. Baked al forno. They're just so versatile!

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 05, 2009 10:35 PM (aC0uO)

I sorta doubt that his stockade cell will have an arrow pointing to Mecca painted on the floor.  But I could be wrong.

385 Not only will he miss the getting 99 virgins by not dying for in jihad for Allah.........he was shot by a female police officer. That will give him something to think about while he's serving life in the federal pen. With any luck he'll have 500 lb  cellmate named Bubba who likes his socks ironed.

386 Coming soon to a military base near you, Don't ask, Don't tell if you are a muslim soldier.

387

I can't wait for Hugh Hefner to try to get her to pose in Playboy,

Heheh.  Damn, I'm glad she lived!   Hooboy!  W00t!

388 Breitbart's got a couple of new headlines up about his background. 

389

Investigate the crap out of his family. And his "spiritual leader." 

Basic knowledge of that faith demands it. And don't forget dear old Mom; she had to give her blessing.

390 In the words of that great philosopher, Ron White: "If you come to Texas and kill one of our citizens, we will kill you right back.  Most states are trying to abolish the death penalty - my state's puttin' in an express lane"........

391

When I arrived here today, Allah told me that He had some good news and some bad news.

The bad news is that contrary to what she tells everybody, Mama AJ is still a virgin. The good news is that she won't be one of [my] virgins.

392

Good. Just don't ever play that pc crap here again.You know what I mean.

Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 10:33 PM (+FzLa)

I take it back.  Bite me, clown.

393 Charging isn't up to the AG. The General Court Martial Authority (probably the Corps Commander, but might be higher) will approve the charges and specifications, if I remember my class on the UCMJ from ROTC. Then he will be tried by a military court of at least 7 field grade officers. LINE officers, who have probably had at least one trip to the sandbox. Who will, upon conviction, sentence him to be reduced to the lowest enlisted rank, to forfeit all pay and allowances, to be dishonorably discharged from the military service, and to be committed to the custody of the Secretary of Defense until sentence of death is executed.

394

I take it back.  Bite me, clown.

Posted by: baldilocks at November 05, 2009 10:44 PM (io7pd)

Where? I saw your pic, your hot.

395 "Located on the grounds of Bethesda’s National Naval Medical Center and across from the National Institutes of Health, USU is the nation’s federal school of medicine and graduate school of nursing. The university educates health care professionals dedicated to career service in the Department of Defense and the U.S. Public Health Service. Students are active-duty uniformed officers in the Army, Navy, Air Force and Public Health Service who are being educated to deal with wartime casualties, natural disasters,
emerging infectious diseases, and other public health emergencies. Of the university’s nearly 4,400 physician alumni and more than 400 advanced practice nurses, the vast majority serve on active duty and are supporting operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere, offering their leadership and expertise. The University also has graduated more than 600 public health professionals."

Didn't even know this existed.  Have friends that did ROTC and friends who joined the military after medical or dental school but had no idea that they train their own.   That general on Greta was right, it must be quite and honor to be selected for the progam and it must save you a ton of money on your medical education.

396

Per the Wa Post via Jihadwatch, the shooter was not a recent convert but rather a lifelong devout Muslim of Palestinian descent - per his family and his local imam - "Hasan is a U.S.-born Muslim of Palestinian descent whose parents came to the United States from the West Bank. He joined the military after high school and earned medical degrees as he rose through the ranks, family members said... Hasan attended the Muslim Community Center in Silver Spring and was "very devout," according to Faizul Khan, a former imam at the center. Khan said Hasan attended prayers at least once a day, seven days a week, often in his Army fatigues."

Along with "PTSD/Sudden Deployment Syndrome" I had a side-bet for spin about him being a "recent convert" who was "misled" into his belligerence by radicals who had "hijacked Islam" again.  This should effectively scotch that spin.

How or why did this OG devout Muslim so grossly misinterpret the Religion of Peace and do something that every CAIR-funded spokesperson assures us is totally forbidden by and inimical to the religion he'd followed since childhood ?

397 Just remember Hasan Akbar is still alive. I have no idea why. Well, I guess I do.

Because we standardized on a pussified European 9mm side arm years ago? or the skill of the first responders? or the skill of his surgeons? or was the bastard wearing body armor?

Or some combination of the above?

What's the death penalty under the UCMJ these days? ideally, hanging. Of course, The Won will commute his sentence to life.

Which means in 20 years some yo-yo will set him free.

398 His cousin, on the phone to a radio station, said today that Hassan loved America, loved the military but felt harassed as a Muslim.

That didn't take long.

399 Remember, remember the Fifth of November....

400 I missed the shep interview.  Wasn't really paying attention but Greta replayed it and shep asked when he had last seen his cousin tnd the guy said about 6 months ago and then shep asked if that was before or after he left the country.  Now I'm totally confused.

401 Remember, remember the Fifth of November....

Guy Fawkes was sentenced to be hanged, drawn, and quartered, IIRC.

402

"or the skill of the first responders? "

Triple tap.  Two to the chest; one to the head.  Beats body armor every time.

403

@400

Before he deplyed to TX

404 I'm fucking first, hon.

Sorry, I claim 'Vet' status, and I get first dibs.

That's ok. I claim dibs on providing you with the weapon of your choice. So long as it's a rusty spoon. I seem to be all out of sharp knives, dull knives, and even rusty knives. All I have available are rusty spoons.

I betcha you can't dig his heart out with a rusty spoon. Ok, you can start with his eyeballs for practice.

Yeah, I can be pretty vengeful.

405 I think he would be a great addition to Gitmo. The problem is the military doesn't let prisoners be abused by other prisoners or this sucker wouldn't last long. Wanna bet he uses his education to get a temorary mental insanity plea?

406 Triple tap.  Two to the chest; one to the head.  Beats body armor every time.

Strange, I thought it was two to the head, one to the chest. Am I wrong?

407

Just remember Hasan Akbar is still alive. I have no idea why. Well, I guess I do.

I totally expect Hasan Akbar to get the Mumia Abu-Jamal treatment sooner or later.

And yes, Blazer, he was a Black convert to Islam.

Why the conversion to a faith that was enslaving Africans back in the days when even the most educated of European Christians were feudal and still hadn't figured out that a world existed past the Sahara is beyond me.

408 Fuck the interrogations - I'd send the Major to SERE to get some military training and promotion points while the investigation is on-going... for a couple of years they can recycle him.

409 Perhaps this is the straw that broke the camel's back and we quit pretending the muslims aren't savages?

410

@406

Chest is a bigger, sure target hit.  Recoil naturally brings the weapon up.  Sure shot first, then follow the flow, and go for the gold.

411 Blazer, this is not your night.

412 MSNBC still not sure of shooter's religion. His Imam says he was a lifelong Muslim and attended mosque in his uniform.

413 Just watched the press conference for about the third time - this Lt. Gen sounds like one of the typical small-town sheriffs who are often featured on Fox.

You would think a frickin' general would not make asinine comments about "semi-automatic" weapons?   What - was this guy supposed to use a black-powder rifle to gun these folks down?  It's not like a semi-auto pistol is a particularly impressive weapon on a base which houses an entire armored corps!

414 Didn't even know this existed.  Have friends that did ROTC and friends who joined the military after medical or dental school but had no idea that they train their own.   That general on Greta was right, it must be quite and honor to be selected for the progam and it must save you a ton of money on your medical education.

Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 10:47 PM (p302b)

They really should make the Hippocratic Oath and Galen's Dictum ('first, do no harm') more prominent in their curriculum.  Although rather a lot of Muslim doctors seem to pay no heed to those precepts -- Dr. Al Zawahiri, the two doctors who drove the Jeep bomb into the Glasgow Airport terminal, Dr. Assad of Syria, folks like that.

415 # 407

... and have never stopped; the only industry Muslims have excelled at in their pathetic history. Unless going home to get your shine box is an industry.

416 Two center mass. One shot to the head.

417 Gee, it's kind of like all the people who were cautioned not to be premature weren't premature enough. And who would have speculated that the guy was actually alive when his death was one of the only things the frakking press was sure about. We'll be expected to forget all about it by next week, naturally.

418 Heard Chrissy Matthews on MSNBC basically saying, what is this? What can we call this? It's not terrorism, because, you know, the guy was shooting at army personnel...

Interesting, because that's exactly the justification Hamas and Fatah give when they murder Israelis at bus stops and in pizza parlours.

Getting a tingle up your leg at this news, Chrissie, you scum-sucking shithead terrorist apologist?

419 Jon and Ken (took Savage's spot on 910 KNEW) were pushing the "he must be so messed up from other people's PTSD" meme tonight.  I had to turn them off.  Guess I will listen to music.  And one word about this a-hole being treated poorly by other soldiers:  he was US Army major.  No enlisted soldier would insult him unless he wanted his career ended.  And officers don't talk to other officers that way.  I have served with a few muslim soldiers, and I have never, ever heard anyone make a deragatory comment to one of them.

420

421 So he's always been a muslim.   But he didn't want to go to war.

Too bad, dude.  You joined the freaking MILITARY!  You joined the Army, and what the hell did you expect?  The ARMY is all about fighting!

Yikes.  A Psychologist just went in and shot and killed 12 people and wounded 30.  Goes to show you how much maturity this idiot had when it came to "putting his money where his mouth was".

422 Nothing to see here.

Move along.

Move along.

423

I love how these cunt arabs are so dead set against "going to war to kill my fellow muslims"

Umm, cunt? 99% of your piece of shit fellow religionists who get killed every day? Yeah, fellow muslims are behind the trigger (or car bomb)

424 412 MSNBC still not sure of shooter's religion. His Imam says he was a lifelong Muslim and attended mosque in his uniform.

Hmmm.... well if he's a devout Muslim, there is NO POSSIBLE WAY this could have anything to do with jihad. Because we all know that Islam means peace. He was obviously harassed and cracked. It's the fact of the white soldiers he served with.

Also.. this is going to mean hate crimes against Muslims, you're all racist, even though Islam isn't a race!

Shut up!

425

419,

 

exactly right w/regards to the media memes.

 

This happened because the Army allowed PC to override survival instincts.  He was heard cheering the reports of US dead at Reed, Reed's chain sent him to a Forcecom unit to get him out of their hair.  The Mad Major was either at a Brigade, or Div billet...possibly corps but I doubt it so some Colonel or General was confronted with this guy, had the opportunity to say "maybe he belongs on rear d because he is a s-2 liability in waiting" and blinked.  Now we will watch the newsies in full court press mode to protect the Muslim extremists in this nation, and the mad major himself with excuses.

I had thought this behavior was a big block to the liberals and multi-cultis gaining power in the post 9/11 world....I know better now and have for about three years.

Wife's unit had a few Muslims who refused to follow command directives but were shielded by PC.....

 

PC kills.

426

Non-PC Totally Inappropriate Honest Questions Warning:

Could (or should) the military consider a supplemental loyalty oath for Muslims or outright denial of military admission to Muslims ?

My own cringe-meter goes off when considering these options.  The last thing I want to do is to shit on Muslims who are on our side and don't deserve it - and for those who belive that's a very small number, I'd say that makes them all the more important from the "hearts and minds" perspective.

It's also problematic in terms of our civil rights laws as well as practical needs for translators, etc...  - and practically speaking, in light of the Muslim practice of  taqqiya, a determined jihadi could simply lie in either instance.  You'd have to deny admission to anyone whose background check revealed Muslim affiliations to make it effective 

However, this incident shows that we can't just stick our heads in the sand and pretend there's no problem with serving Muslims' conflicting loyalties to their religion and their military duty.

If any of our military commenters has a take or some useful info in this regard, I'd like to know what they have to say re: how many Muslims are serving in our armed forces, how "mission-critical" they are (I suspect pretty important, at least in some positions) and what steps, if any, are taken to vet their loyalties (I'm guessing little to none).

I'd like to know if we could take any cues in how to approach this problem from the Muslims themselves - after all, the prohibition on killing fellow Muslims didn't seem to affect the Iraqis vs. Iran, Kuwait, the Saudis, etc... or the internecine violence in Palestine.  I'm guessing some variation on "they're not real Muslims" may have been used, but I'd like to know the facts. 

If the jihadis are deploying imams and prostelytizers to undermine soldiers' loyalties, what are we doing in turn to help strengthen and shore up those loyalties ?

427 280
Media: PTSD is a communicable disease.
When I was in medical school they told us that the DSM-IV had PTDS as applying to anyone even hearing about trauma. The example was a horrific plane crash played over and over again on the news affecting the audience. Really. We all laughed. To be included in the DSM means it can be billed to insurance for one thing. Our Prof (a shrink) said it was BS too.

428

I don't want to hear about his rights or whether he felt put down as a muslim.  Not one word.  My head will explode.  He got a premium free medical education and repaid his country how?

The only people of value in this story are the innocent injured and dead.  This islamofascist was a piece of pig shit. No other interpretation possible.  Same to his mother and father who raised him to be the kind of piece of swine crap who would put other people's families through this.  

How many more will have to die before we stop being so ridiculously PC?

Over 5000 lethel attacks by muslims on innocents around the world since 9/11 and we still will not stand up to this evil and call it by its rightful name.

Shameful.  

Roll him in pig shit and shoot him on public t.v. Bill his parents for the medical education and for the bullets. 

429 First of all, I'd like to give a shout out to my mother in law. Hi Mom! Thanks for helping us here at home with the new baby.

Ok, now I'd like to comment, uh, on the uh, situation in the army, uh, base, uh, Fort Hood. That's tragic, and, uh, our, uh, prayers are with, uh, those affected by this, uh, tragedy.

430 Invade their countries. Kill their leaders. Convert them to Christianity. (Ann Coulter)

431 Kanye, both you and Obama have too much class for America.

Each of you should get a whole hemisphere to be allowed to revere you.

432 Okay, how long before someone on the left suggests this guy was some right-winger who was heavily into Palin, Rush, Hannity & Glenn Beck???

433 The fact that the media is ALREADY running to this guys defense is beyond maddening.  If fact I am so pissed I can't type my true feelings, for if odouchenozzle's watchful eye saw what I want to write, his heart would stop.  Right after he had muscle spasms that snapped his back.  I fucking hate our media and

I WISH IT WERE THEM WHO GOT KILLED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FUCK YOU ALL!!!!

FUCKIN DIE YOU TRAITOROUS PIECES OF SHITT!

YOU SHOULD BE AIR DROPPED INTO AFGHANISTAN WITHOUT A PARACHUTE! 

Fuck

434 Could (or should) the military consider a supplemental loyalty oath for Muslims or outright denial of military admission to Muslims ?

Yes. This. is. WAR.

435

Holy shit, I go off to watch Project Runway and THIS!!??

Listen, I'm glad the fucker is alive. Now he can meet the justice he deserves, instead of a quick release.

436 That is still not even a fraction of the feelings I hol dfor Islam in general and the enablers in our country.

Jesus I can't believe our media...  I just   fuckin WOW

437 re: how many Muslims are serving in our armed forces, how "mission-critical" they are (I suspect pretty important, at least in some positions) and what steps, if any, are taken to vet their loyalties (I'm guessing little to none).

So very few US citizens/soldiers speak arabic/farsi/urdu/pashto/.... you get the idea.  It's possible they've waived quite a few in that are potential problems.  How does the military know they are getting the proper translations?

And I also read they rejected the Sephardic Jews, who are fluent arabic speakers in favor of Arab muslims.  F'd up is what you call this.

438 As usual, when it comes to the religion of peace, Atlas Shrugged is on the case.

439 His asshole cousin has been all over a Greta double-header, wailing about how he loved America and the Army, but hated the "harassment".

440 Over 5000 lethel attacks by muslims on innocents around the world since 9/11 and we still will not stand up to this evil and call it by its rightful name.

Spencer at Jihad watch actually has a count.  I think it's around 13,000, not 5k.  Outrageous!

If they think they are gonna pass cap n tx and healthcare in the middle of the night without listening to the people after this bullshit attack, they don't know what wrath in America looks like. But they're going to find out, I suspect.

441

Posted by: Monty at November 05, 2009 09:46 PM (nTxjg)
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Cordelia didn't hang herself! (Sorry if someone already said so; I'm working my way down the thread.)

442 420 Bump, bump, bump, another 12 bite the dust!!!!!

Posted by: Rick Schwag at November 05, 2009 11:30 PM (t7+8e)

I'd be interested in an explanation from "Rick" or an IP address.

443

It's all part of my friend Bill's genius plan.  By the time you figure it out it will be too late!

444 420 Bump, bump, bump, another 12 bite the dust!!!!! Posted by: Rick Schwag at November 05, 2009 11:30 PM (t7+8e)

At google, I can't find any other comments with "t7+8e site:http://ace.mu.nu/".

IP address?

445 Until they release the ballistic reports I am not going to be convinced this was a lone gunman. I'm not a conspiracy nut but this just doesn't add up.

446 Well seems he's a Paulnut.
From February

Do you all know how stupid you clowns look?  When that cocksucker Bush doubled the national debt you all supported him.  2 wars, tax cuts, free drugs for old people, farm subsidies....it never ends.

Ron Paul is the only politician that makes any sense. This Keynesian nonsense will only lead to the demise of the USA.   We have to cut the Federal Budget by 90%.  Better yet, is there any reason for the United States to further exist as one nation?  We would be better off to declare national bankruptcy, renounce the national debt, and break up the country into smaller ones.

We could then fuck over all the federal pensioners who got us into this mess.

 

 

Posted by: Rick Schwag at February 07, 2009 03:47 PM (Wh/vn)

447 Jimbo knows who he is?

Rick Shwag commenting here and talking smack. He must have gotten over the ass-raping he took at Cuban customs. What's up you fuckin' bandito of ass?

Cordially,

Uncle J

Posted by: Uncle Jimbo at February 07, 2009 04:44 PM (BDrES)

448 420 Bump, bump, bump, another 12 bite the dust!!!!!

Posted by: Rick Schwag at November 05, 2009 11:30 PM (t7+8e)

Hey, if that was a joke I was missing or Rick Schwag is a regular (or regular sockpuppet) I've missed somehow, fill me in please.

Otherwise, clean-up aisle 420 and note the IP address.

449

Baldilocks has an important point: if Hasan were black, things would be much more political, and various excuses could be made and have a chance of succeeding. Since Hasan is not black, things are much simpler. A whole bunch of greviance theatre ploys just won't work.

I think post 112 mghorning at 09:36 PM (Mf9vE) is mostly right:

. . . . . . Let's see where this goes.  He killed 12 people. You cannot hide this.

This could create the political stink we need.

Then kill him.

But I think a 5-year tour in one of America's better gladiator schools is warranted. 

I understand that Leavenworth has a suitable program, and always has room, in case San Quentin is full.   Death by spork just doesn't have the comic value it once had.

450 Thanks, Rocks.

Anyone from the trollbusters feel like giving us an IP address to look at?

451 He is alive because he is going to be giving the keynote address at the next DNC convention.

Also because the three terrorists who were released from guantanemo and ended up eating icecream needed a fourth partner to open up their BOOMBOOM ICECREAM and Deadly Bagles too franchise.

452 I don't know if this post on here was the real Rick Swagg but here's a story about him. He ships medical relief to Cuba and lives in Vermont.

453 Make that Schwag

454 Pre-traumatic stress disorder, obviously.

455 Expect, "Post Traumatic Stress Disorder by Proxy" to be quickly recognized by mental health professionals as a legitimate disease so that one of their own has an out other than the real, "Sudden Jihad Syndrome" that lay people with functioning brains properly recognize.

Remember, the only reason people get into the psych professions is because they know that they are crazy and are looking for a cure, just like the only reason people become lawyers is because they know they are criminals and are looking for cover.

456 Could someone please explain why this guy is still alive?

457 I'm going to take the rare Pixy comment afterwards as a "we're looking at it" and let it drop.

458 456 Could someone please explain why this guy is still alive?

I'm OK with him being alive as long as they don't waste any pain killers on him.....Oh and they kill him later....by tearing him apart with monster trucks.

459 Hey 440:  Islam Body count at 14,340 can see at www.thereligionofpeace.com

460 I think I may pardon this fella.  He will be a perfect Death Panel Czar for my new improved Health Plan.

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463 The woman that shot him is going to be so damned famous!

I want elementary schools named after her. 

464

This could create the political stink we need.

Then kill him.

Hate to see them miss an opportunity to break the Guinness Record for scrotum-stretching.

465 I thought only liberal fascist blogs banned trolls.

466 Stop sockpuppeting palin steele.

The real PS wasn't much to behold.  Your weak imitation is really old.

467 I thought only liberal fascist blogs banned trolls.

Posted by: palin steele at November 06, 2009 06:50 AM (x37Oo)

That's your contribution?  When a whacko Dom DeLuise-looking, moo-moo wearing radical muslim gets all he can from this country and then repays by shooting his unarmed fellow soldiers, and you want to talk about unfair treatment on this blog.

I can only assume that it takes so much time for you to comment because you type with one hand while you repeatedly stick your other hand down your buttcrack and smell your fingers.

468 Oops.  I thought it was the real one. 

469 Are the asshat liberals still celebrating diversity?

470 Actually The Religion of Peace has it at 14,340 fatal jihad attacks since 9/11.  A substantial percentage of these attacks killed dozens or even hundreds of people.  So to be clear, that number is attacks, not fatalities which are much higher.  Just the car bombs in Iraq over the last several years have killed thousands of people.   Major Hasan is the latest recorded mujahideen fighting in Allah's Cause to make Islam supreme.  

471 Or what #459 said.  I always do that. 

472 Hey Brownimom: The body count is an order of magnitude higher than that - look at October - 156 attacks, 909 bodies.

That was 14,340 _attacks_, not bodies. This is a war that most people in the West don't even realize we're fighting - and the first attack on us was right after our Revolution.

And Angus Dei, it isn'ty "sudden jihad syndrome," there's nothing sudden about this. This was predicted by his behavior and no one was willing to step up because of political correctness. The feelings of prissy leftists are obviously more important than people's lives.

473

Fifty bucks says Nidal Malik Hasan is a registered Democrat and a proud Obama supporter.

Any takers?

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