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| Suspected Fort Hood Gunman Identified As Major Malik Nadal Hasan....A Muslim Convert And A Psychiatrist. UPDATE: Other Suspects ReleasedThe suspected gunman was identified as Major Malik Nadal Hasan. He was killed and two other suspects have been apprehended, Lt. Robert W. Cone said. The gunman used two handguns, Cone said. He wasn't sure if the shooter reloaded the weapons during the attack. The general called the attack "a terrible tragedy, stunning." He said the community was "absolutely devastated." The extent of the injuries of victims "varies significantly," according to Cone. President Obama called the Fort Hood shootings a "horrific outburst of violence." "It if difficult enough to lose" soldiers overseas, but said it is "horrifying that they should lose their lives at an Army base in the U.S.," he said.Chris Matthews is spinning like a top that it must be something, anything other than what we know so far. Hutchison and Shep won't talk about the name because they don't want to insult anyone. Unbelievable. They say Major Malik Nadal Hasan was upset about having to deploy. Fox will not use the name of Major Malik Nadal Hasan but a local radio reporter just broke Fox's embargo that he is a MUSLIM convert. Commanding general says all shootings took place in the area of the processing center and around 1:30 cst. It is absolutely incredible at how the media is willing to speculate about just about any possible motive other than the fact that the one named gunman is a recent MUSLIM convert. Obviously it's much more likely that he is a gang member or maybe opposed to the war or just nuts. According to CBS he's a psychiatrist. UPDATE: The two others were being held as suspects have been released. This Aint Hell says Hasan has never deployed to a war zone. Comments1
If it looks like a duck...
Posted by: ahem at November 05, 2009 05:19 PM (9ZiEx) 2
Hey, guys, I'm sure this wasn't terrorism....can I just eat my waffle in peace?
Posted by: Barry O'Numbnuts at November 05, 2009 05:20 PM (f8EM9) 3
You're welcome.
Posted by: Gerry at November 05, 2009 05:20 PM (iiwJV) 4
Islam? Never heard of it.
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at November 05, 2009 05:20 PM (8g9qq) 5
Unlike 9/11, when I thought "That guy must have gone blind in midair," this time I thought "Muslim terrorist." Islam is a menace. Posted by: Alex at November 05, 2009 05:21 PM (UTQfn) 6
Hrmmm our enemies are extremist muslims. I know! We'll induct them into our military and give them rank affirmative-action style!
Posted by: Brilliant Politician at November 05, 2009 05:21 PM (xm1A1) 7
I'm real interested in how this guy came about to be a Major in the Army. I fear it was his linguist skills that enabled him to become an officer and not through the typical way either.
Posted by: CDR M at November 05, 2009 05:21 PM (cvmTR) 8
Hasan is a recent convert to Islam.
Posted by: Dr. Spank at November 05, 2009 05:22 PM (TZazt) 9
Nevermind, he's a convert.
Posted by: CDR M at November 05, 2009 05:23 PM (cvmTR) 10
Is Janet N. gonna' look into this, or will she focus on those crazy abortion protestors?
Posted by: Dave at November 05, 2009 05:23 PM (Xm1aB) 11
gawd, Shep Smith is an idiot. He looks even more so arguing with Catherine Heritage (SP?)
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at November 05, 2009 05:23 PM (2pjaO) 12
Remember, the first reports are almost always wrong. Perhaps it was a Ryan Philippe wannabe re-enacting the wacko behaviour of ex-soldiers in "Stop Loss".
I mean, never mind about converting to Islam. Malik Hassan is MILITARY. They're all nuts, right? RIGHT? (crickets) Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 05:24 PM (3sdjL) 13
A Major? So hard to believe.
Posted by: mare at November 05, 2009 05:24 PM (X1fsj) 14
Catherine Herridge. Why do I know this?
Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 05:24 PM (3sdjL) 15
So I just watched Barbara Starr back pedal and now I'm watching Catherine Herridge back pedal. Thsi can't be a coincidence.
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 05:24 PM (p302b) 16
ABC radio makes the point every five minuts that Ft. Hood is north of Waco,TX (they're all crazy, reporting). Isn't it time to change our immigration standards? Posted by: Bob at November 05, 2009 05:24 PM (RsriB) 17
can someone confirmed that the reader of the teleprompter of the free world gave a "shout out?" to the victims?
Remember that fragging in the 101st by the muslim major... Posted by: joeindc44 at November 05, 2009 05:24 PM (QxSug) 18
Just like the DC snipers
Posted by: Eva at November 05, 2009 05:25 PM (Uw7hv) 19
the good news is, under the UCMJ, his helpers can be executed, if the are GI's.
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 05, 2009 05:25 PM (d1FhN) 20
It's the fault of the U.S. Armed Forces. They produce bloodthirsty murderous oppressors. My boyfriend is going to fix that. Posted by: Hissy Chrissy Matthews at November 05, 2009 05:26 PM (J5Srq) 21
"The gunman used two handguns, Cone said. He wasn't sure if the shooter reloaded the weapons during the attack."
13 dead and 31 wounded? reload? YA THINK? fucking retards. Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2009 05:26 PM (C8Pcc) 22
Guess Bambi crawled out from under his desk when Rahm assured him it was safe
Posted by: Eva at November 05, 2009 05:27 PM (Uw7hv) 23
#19
I'd say regardless of whether the UCMJ applies, the Longhorn State will have no problem executing aiders and abettors. Posted by: Dave at November 05, 2009 05:27 PM (Xm1aB) 24
This is not the Muslims that I Know !!!
Posted by: Barack Hussein Osama Obama at November 05, 2009 05:27 PM (DMV9j) 25
and the dc snipers too...yup...and the El Al shooter, if memory serves...
Posted by: joeindc44 at November 05, 2009 05:27 PM (QxSug) 26
I'm sure all you racists here will use the coincidence of the deranged killers name to further insult The Religion of Peace. Facists.
Posted by: Mad King Charles at November 05, 2009 05:27 PM (6ZPfw) 27
I try so very hard not to cast judgement on a whole population, but these things make it very very hard.
Posted by: Mike In BA at November 05, 2009 05:27 PM (1hSHv) 28
I can confirm the shout out. The Shouted At-ee was a Native American and not Bill Thompson, the mayoral candidate to whom he recently gave ANOTHER shout out on October 21.
But don't worry. He's just "folksy". It's cute. Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 05:27 PM (3sdjL) 29
Did Obama also express sympathy for the victims by saying that the shooters had wee-wee'd up?
Posted by: joeindc44 at November 05, 2009 05:28 PM (QxSug) 30
I tuned in to hear the presidents remarks about this horrible shooting and he comes out there are starts talking about Native Americans. What kind of idiot president do we have?
Posted by: franticflintstone at November 05, 2009 05:28 PM (VGbp5) 31
Chrissy--A frickin' Major making a very good (near 6-figure) income with a grievance against military institutions?!
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 05, 2009 05:28 PM (DPM1U) 32
Sheppard smith: "we don't know the motivation.."
Look at the fucker's name! It ain't rocket science you douchebag! Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2009 05:28 PM (C8Pcc) 33
On the floor today...Liberman and McLame read letters from 9-11 families.
The letter pled that the perps of 9-11 not be given a free pass. While I am glad that they read the letter. They did same with the passion of getting a street signed named after Byrd. Apparently the dems are moving fast on bringing the whole lot of them to U.S. Posted by: non_dhimmie at November 05, 2009 05:29 PM (cFwGO) Posted by: The guy who says Also Cocks at November 05, 2009 05:29 PM (QBQcg) 35
You, in time, will embrace me.
Posted by: Profiling at November 05, 2009 05:29 PM (Zi+FQ) 36
They gave the wrong rank...he's Lieutenant GENERAL Cone, the post and corps commander. Throws a lot more weight than an ell-tee.
Posted by: Prayerborne at November 05, 2009 05:29 PM (rKqFf) 37
I had nothing to do with it. I didn't even visit Texas leading up to the event. He ran his own campaign. It was about local issues. He was incompetent anyway.
Posted by: Islam at November 05, 2009 05:29 PM (J5Srq) 38
13 dead and 31 wounded? reload?
It's extremely eerie reading this today, because I only just bought "Columbine" by David Cullen on Amazon. We're talking less than 2 hours ago. Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 05:30 PM (3sdjL) 39
So Obama's anti-terror policies sure are producing results...aren't they?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2009 05:30 PM (7BU4a) 40
Not that we endorse violence, but you gotta expect this sort of thing when you wage a war of aggression against civilians.
Posted by: The Left at November 05, 2009 05:30 PM (qAer1) 41
Posted by: franticflintstone at November 05, 2009 05:28 PM (VGbp5)
Yeah, I about flipped my lid when he pulled that crap. What a dumbass. Also Cocks and Also Cocks, since I missed one up there. Posted by: The guy who says Also Cocks at November 05, 2009 05:30 PM (QBQcg) 42
Every TV and radio stations says stand by for the president's remarks about the Ft. Hood atrocity, and Barry Obama comes out there and starts telling us about some Native American jive. WTF!!!
Posted by: franticflintstone at November 05, 2009 05:30 PM (VGbp5) 43
Could somebody please tell the President of the United States to use fewer words? It's a tragedy, American soldiers have been brutally killed. It's not worse that it occurred here at home, rather than overseas. They're still dead, and you disrespect them by assigning socio/political significance to the tragedy. Moron. And I don't mean that in the good sense of the word. Posted by: Cold Dish at November 05, 2009 05:30 PM (TOk1P) 44
Was he wearing the uniform of a Major or is he a Major?
Posted by: JavaJoe at November 05, 2009 05:30 PM (Am6n/) 45
If he is a Major, does that indicate how long he might have been in the Army? Posted by: California Red at November 05, 2009 05:30 PM (7uWb8) 46
Sheppard smith: "we don't [want to let the public] know the motivation [since it doesn't fit my world view].."
FIFY Shep Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 05, 2009 05:31 PM (NgoAe) 47
...and believe me: being an officer doesn't make you immune from becoming a complete fuckrag. In fact, it's often a prerequisite.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2009 05:31 PM (C8Pcc) 48
and the dc snipers too...yup...and the El Al shooter, if memory serves...
And the Little Rock jihadi. Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 05, 2009 05:31 PM (NtiET) Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 05:31 PM (3sdjL) 50
Kaye bailey telling shep that "he was going to deploy to Iraq and was upset about that". BTW, Kaye Bailey is white as a sheet and looks like hell, she is obviously very upset.
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 05:31 PM (p302b) 51
Must have been a Glenn Beck fan.
Posted by: Charles Johnson at November 05, 2009 05:31 PM (Xm1aB) 52
It would help if you thought of terrorism as a modern inconvenience.
Posted by: john kerry at November 05, 2009 05:32 PM (EjTTx) 53
I'm betting this major is a Muslim chaplain.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 05, 2009 05:32 PM (+r2rh) 54
California Red: normally you become eligible for promotion to Major at 10 years active service (in the zone)
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2009 05:32 PM (C8Pcc) Posted by: Al Gore at November 05, 2009 05:32 PM (2p0e3) 56
Once again, misuse of the word. This is not a "tragedy". A mother of two killed by a falling tree is a "tragedy". This is an "act of evil", or maybe an "outrage". Anyone involved in planning and/or executing this who's still breathing needs to get the ever-popular Free Nadkicks For Life rider added to their sentence.
Posted by: PCachu at November 05, 2009 05:32 PM (r2Oug) 57
""What kind of idiot president do we have?""
A useful one, thank you very much. Posted by: George Soros at November 05, 2009 05:32 PM (NgoAe) 58
I need to go outside and calm myself down. I am livid at this president coming out there and going on about native americans when the country is tuned in for his remarks about 12 dead soldiers and 30 injured at Ft. Hood.
Posted by: franticflintstone at November 05, 2009 05:32 PM (VGbp5) 59
Was he wearing the uniform of a Major or is he a Major?
I have a sneaking suspicion he's a legit Major. But it seemed that Lt-General Cone was talking about the other gunman as possibly being an outisde contrator? Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 05:32 PM (3sdjL) 60
The DemSM has to be heartbroken that it wasn't a white right wing Christian, so they could shout that Fox News and Talk Radio are fomenting hate and cause these killers to act violently. Then they'll say we'll never be safe until all white males are rounded up.
Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2009 05:33 PM (sYxEE) 61
Major Malik Nadal Hasan? A convert Muslim?
You fucking bastard. Are you going to get afew more virgins than your extra 72 for killing soldiers? Who put you up to it you chicken shit bastard. Motherfucking Major Malik Nadal Hasan. Burn in hell. Posted by: portlandon at November 05, 2009 05:34 PM (jjW1l) 62
At least Bush Kept Us Safe.
But I guess the IMPORTANT thing is, the NSA wasn't listening in on this Muslim human excrement, thanks to Mr. Obama. Posted by: CoolCzech at November 05, 2009 05:34 PM (QECjC) 63
From Twitter: JTlol RT @RedCross People local to Fort Hood can call 254-724-4376 to reach @swhealthcare about blood needs.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 05, 2009 05:34 PM (NtiET) 64
Can someone explain what "fragging" is? I saw that term while ago and was wondering what it means....
Posted by: Intrepid at November 05, 2009 05:34 PM (92zkk) 65
Barak, I can't be bother with this shit i'm playing basketball, Obama.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2009 05:34 PM (C8Pcc) 66
Prepare the new initiate for the thorn-cocked phallus.
Posted by: Iblis the Thrice Misbegotten at November 05, 2009 05:34 PM (DPM1U) 67
Cnn(Wolf Blitzer) is talking about Gang Members trying to join the Army??
Posted by: Patrick at November 05, 2009 05:35 PM (OpnaT) 68
Sheppy will not say the guys name. Fucking unbelievable
Posted by: Mal at November 05, 2009 05:35 PM (Z+qzA) 69
kay baily hutchinsen doesn't want to confirm the name. Neither does shep.
Shep states the name would tell us a lot, wouldn't it. Damn strait, shep. Posted by: Derak at November 05, 2009 05:35 PM (lLxSN) 70
Hasan is a recent convert to Islam.
That makes sense. Recent converts get some of the strongest indoctrination, and they've made a conscious life commitment. Posted by: Original Roy at November 05, 2009 05:35 PM (qAer1) 71
Is he a recent convert ? Seems like those guys go all out and are the most exreme in trying to prove their allegiance to Allah in a hurry? Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 05:35 PM (t37e5) 72
First of all, prayers to all the soldiers and families at Ft. Hood. I have Amry nurse friends who are there and I know those injured are receiving top notch care.
As for the officer that did this...well there aren't any words really other than disgusting. Posted by: Trish at November 05, 2009 05:35 PM (0U5Kd) 73
poopity poopity poo!
Posted by: John ryan at November 05, 2009 05:35 PM (m0Q2u) 74
An Arabic sounding name? Hmmmmm. Wonder if that's significant. It'll be interesting to find out what the names of the other shooters are. If they're "Arabic sounding" I'm sure, now that dear leader has been alerted and has crawled out from under his desk, that those names will be withheld pending notification of relatives overseas.
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 05, 2009 05:35 PM (tKmj0) 75
Intrepid: fragging = killing a friendly. Reference comes from throwing a "frag" grenade at a useless officer.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2009 05:35 PM (C8Pcc) Posted by: JavaJoe at November 05, 2009 05:35 PM (Am6n/) 77
Wolf Blitzer is asking Gen. Honore about the possibility of the shooter being a gang member. Douche. I figured the guy was probably middle eastern or had a middle-eastern sounding name when they instantly said it wasn't terrorism. PC fucking bullshit. It is going to get us all killed. Posted by: Miss Fluffy McNutter at November 05, 2009 05:35 PM (xMSXs) 78
and the UNC SUV driver...
Posted by: joeindc44 at November 05, 2009 05:36 PM (QxSug) Posted by: upinak at November 05, 2009 05:36 PM (w4p/n) 80
If the Major had Cat Stevens music on his iPod, that would cinch it.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at November 05, 2009 05:36 PM (ruzrP) 81
We told you so. Posted by: Root Causes at November 05, 2009 05:36 PM (J5Srq) 82
What was that gut saying about reserve your judgments? FUCK that guy, we knew what this was, 3 gunman gave it all away. Fuck islam
Posted by: Todd (the guy who is back to saying Obama sucks cock) at November 05, 2009 05:36 PM (LLOGQ) 83
"the central
Texas town of Killeen - an ugly conglomeration of fast-food restaurants,
motels and shopping malls with all the usual accroutements of a military
town: swathes of low-rent housing, pawn shops, loan sharks and an
unmistakable air of transience."--The Times, Martin Fletcher
Martin Fletcher just had to kick Killeen while they're reeling in pain. Save the planet; quit polluting with your venom, you bastard. Posted by: maverick muse at November 05, 2009 05:36 PM (F1b/5) 84
I am livid at this president coming out there and going on about native
americans when the country is tuned in for his remarks about 12 dead
soldiers and 30 injured at Ft. Hood.
I can't even imagine the crapstorm from the Kook Kidz if George Bush started his post-tragedy speech by giving a "shoutout" to someone in the audience, then getting in a reference about his political agenda, and only then, remembering his fellow Americans. I mean, CAN YOU IMAGINE the lefty blogs after such behaviour? Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 05:36 PM (3sdjL) 85
"Kaye bailey telling shep that "he was going to deploy to Iraq and was upset about that". "
That's information that should never come out at this point in time from a US Senator. Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at November 05, 2009 05:36 PM (2pjaO) 86
Shep said other news outlets are reporting a name. asks kaye bailey if she was given a name. She says yes but she is uncomfortable giving name because she doesn't know if the family knows. shep says well i've been given the name and the name tells us a lot doesn't it and Kaye Bailey agrees. Kaye Bailey said he was to be deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan and was upset about the deployment.
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 05:36 PM (p302b) 87
64 Can someone explain what "fragging" is? I saw that term while ago and was wondering what it means....
Fragging means purposefully killing members of your own team. Posted by: The guy who says Also Cocks at November 05, 2009 05:37 PM (QBQcg) 88
Just for yoks I dropped by our old buddy Chuck (Big Wheels) Johnson's place to see how he'd handle a big terrorist attack during his boyfriend Barry's reign: certainly much more restrained than the old days, that's for sure. To put it mildly. The current comment posse is bending over backwards to spin away the Muslim shooter; I'm beginning to suspect that Charles settled a suit from CAIR by letting them take over the entire website, comments and all.
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 05, 2009 05:37 PM (aC0uO) Posted by: Mikki at November 05, 2009 05:37 PM (8knER) 90
Shit! I've obviously got my work cut out for me on this one. The boss wants everything scrubbed like a goat on the Kenyan plain, whatevah the f*ck that means.
Posted by: Winston Smith at November 05, 2009 05:37 PM (8XI4A) Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 05:37 PM (3sdjL) 92
I nearly smashed my TV screen when Obama started talking.
Posted by: franticflintstone at November 05, 2009 05:37 PM (VGbp5) 93
Local reporter talking to Shep just said "convert"
Posted by: PKO Strany at November 05, 2009 05:37 PM (+IzXJ) 94
Fox /Hutchinson confirm this "guy" had publicly spoke about being upset about the "wars"?
So we had a angry Muslim on a military base- are you kidding me? Posted by: jjshaka at November 05, 2009 05:38 PM (Pu33u) 95
Local radio reporter talking to Shep on Fox says dead shooter is a VA native, convert to Islam.
Posted by: DM! at November 05, 2009 05:38 PM (GJbFM) 96
If he is a "new" major, he might be a doctor or nurse. FWIW.
Posted by: Trish at November 05, 2009 05:38 PM (0U5Kd) 97
OBAMA HATES AMERICA
Posted by: PeterPParkenfarker at November 05, 2009 05:38 PM (M+Hfd) 98
Fox refusing to give name but reporting AP is reporting a name.
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 05:38 PM (p302b) 99
Over at Big Blue Soccerballs, they are making the point that the shooter could be a Christian. Since there are Arab Christians, you know...
(spit) Posted by: Navin R Johnson says listen to Motorhead at November 05, 2009 05:39 PM (jyEfB) Posted by: JPS at November 05, 2009 05:40 PM (i23SM) 101
Now Fox will say he is a convert to Islam but still wont use the name.They just don't know the PC protocol for this kind of thing I guess.
Posted by: Mal at November 05, 2009 05:40 PM (Z+qzA) 102
"Wiki is your friend"
Unless it is wikipedia, like you linked.
Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 05, 2009 05:40 PM (NgoAe) 103
President Obama called the Fort Hood shootings a "horrific outburst of violence."
"It if difficult enough to lose" soldiers overseas, but said it is
"horrifying that they should lose their lives at an Army base in the
U.S.," he said. The stupid vapidity of these quotes just stuns me. Yes Barry, it is horrifying. Now what are you going to do about it? Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at November 05, 2009 05:40 PM (pLTLS) 104
Shepherd Smith is an such embarassment - refusing to report dead shooters name. WTF?
Posted by: muggedbyreality at November 05, 2009 05:40 PM (eUGzR) 105
Brenda Price just stuck it into Shep and broke it off by announcing that it was a Muslim CONVERT.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at November 05, 2009 05:40 PM (H7Rlw) Posted by: CoolCzech at November 05, 2009 05:40 PM (QECjC) 107
What you folks should realize is that various radical islamic groups have been encouraging young mooselems to infiltrate the US military for YEARS. Gangs as well, but that's a separate issue. This is really a realization of a "when" it will happen. Those that are in the know won't be surprised.
I'm surprised it took this long. Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2009 05:40 PM (C8Pcc) 108
The FBI recently wasted a Muslim chaplain here in Detroit last week, he had a Muslim sounding name and was a convert. But you know what, what that asshole talked about in terms of the US sounded a lot like what the effeminate Rev. Dr. Jerry Wright said, and continues to say, about how the US is racist, oppressive, needs to be liberated...aligns quite nicely with the thoughts expressed by Osama. Well, go figure that one outAnd this shooter, well, he's a Muslim too. Wonder what church he went to? What a fucked up world we have here. Barak Obama is an arabic sounding name to me...but we can't notice anything, or it's racist. Fucked up world...yep. Posted by: Sen. Rev. Dr. E Buzz at November 05, 2009 05:41 PM (dh7zu) 109
They're making it sound like it's just the Major. But how does one person shoot over 40 people and kill an armored SWAT member with two handguns?
Posted by: runninrebel at November 05, 2009 05:42 PM (i3PJU) 110
The blog went haywire for a moment, so I thought maybe Instapundit had linked here. But no. I did find this blogpost from the scene though.
Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 05:42 PM (3sdjL) 111
Remember, it's racist to use my full name too. Boy.
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 05, 2009 05:42 PM (/WLDq) 112
and the mall shooter in SLC
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2009 05:42 PM (tJF9l) 113
so i guess it wasn't the Texas Secessionists., unless they were using outside contractors
You're a million laughs, John ryan. No, no, I meant you're an addled nincompoop with the IQ of a broken toaster and the personality of a bag of mulch, and you should seriously consider dying in a fire. Sorry, my error! Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 05, 2009 05:42 PM (aC0uO) 114
So there was only one shooter - this Major Hasan, who was killed on scene - but there are also two others who have been detained as being "accomplices".
Two guesses as to whether or not one of their names contains "Muhammed" rather than "Stanley". Posted by: Intrepid at November 05, 2009 05:43 PM (92zkk) 115
Wolf Blitzer is asking Gen. Honore about the possibility of the shooter being a gang member. Douche. Oh he's a gang member all right, just not quite the type of gang you're thinking of, Wolfbait. Seriously, a 40 year old Army officer who also happens to be a gang member? Really? Good Lord, is there a maximum IQ test for TV journalists? Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at November 05, 2009 05:43 PM (gHzxf) 116
For fuck's sake! As of this moment (2:41 PM PST), the AP is still not providing the name or religious background of the primary shooter. They are reporting that the shooters were soldiers, but saying "little else is known" about them. What little is known, they are hesitant to report apparently:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting PC run amok... Posted by: Mike Z. at November 05, 2009 05:43 PM (xTzeW) 117
So Chris Matthews is allowed to ask about gang relations assuming (at least in my mind) that soldiers are a bunch of thugs, but Shep refuses to say this killers name because of what "we stupid Americans" might conclude? Dumbass.
Posted by: Trish at November 05, 2009 05:43 PM (0U5Kd) 118
If he was mad about being deployed to Iraq , he's going to be really mad about being depolyed to Hell.
Posted by: polynikes at November 05, 2009 05:44 PM (m2CN7) 119
Wolf Blitzer is asking Gen. Honore about the possibility of the shooter being a gang member. Douche.
Time for Gen. Honore to revive his "don't get stuck on stupid" line Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2009 05:44 PM (sYxEE) 120
FUCK EVERYONE - we can't even call this what it is? Seriously?
Posted by: libbyt at November 05, 2009 05:44 PM (5I0Yr) 121
OK, I'll say it. Let the gays in and get the Muslims out of the US military. Posted by: drillanwr at November 05, 2009 05:44 PM (1kwr2) 122
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at November 05, 2009 05:43 PM (gHzxf)
You didn't see Wolf on Jeopardy did you? Also Cocks Posted by: The guy who says Also Cocks at November 05, 2009 05:44 PM (QBQcg) 123
This mf'r Shep is an absolute embarrassment for Fox. Just say the name already, every other station has. The guy is a damn military major who is a muslim terrorist.
Posted by: Go MP at November 05, 2009 05:45 PM (DIYmd) 124
"a horrific outburst of violence."
Why does this have the same cadence as "An Inconvenient Truth"? Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 05:45 PM (3sdjL) 125
The AP headline intimates two seperate incidents?
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 05:46 PM (p302b) 126
35
You, in time, will embrace me.
Posted by: Profiling at November 05, 2009 05:29 PM (Zi+FQ) Right on. Posted by: Elizabeth at November 05, 2009 05:46 PM (hA5JK) 127
Here's another thing Shep won't address: if this guy is upset at being deployed, why shoot other people being deployed? Wouldn't you shoot your superiors, not the grunts like you? Come on, it's logic people, logic!
Posted by: shibuimi at November 05, 2009 05:46 PM (OKZrE) 128
116 For fuck's sake! As of this moment (2:41 PM PST), the AP is still not providing the name or religious background of the primary shooter. They are reporting that the shooters were soldiers, but saying "little else is known" about them. What little is known, they are hesitant to report apparently:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting PC run amok... Posted by: Mike Z.
Bet ya we'd know if he were a gun owning Mormon and listened to Glenn Beck and watched FNC ... and was a "teabagger". Posted by: drillanwr at November 05, 2009 05:46 PM (1kwr2) 129
Political correctness and multiculturalism = the death of Western Civilization.
Look at Britain. Posted by: wherestherum at November 05, 2009 05:46 PM (GZnia) 130
Dear Lord, please visit some peace and comfort on the families of the victims and lay to waste the bad guys, their confederates and enablers. Please.
Posted by: Seriously at November 05, 2009 05:47 PM (8ykNX) 131
Why is Shep infatuated with those on the house floor?
Posted by: Trish at November 05, 2009 05:47 PM (0U5Kd) 132
I'm sure that the congress or dear leader will try to find a way to ban weapons in the military.
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 05, 2009 05:47 PM (tKmj0) 133
CNN is a JOKE I could not belive my ears that he was asking about GANG MEMBERS in the army
JACKASS Posted by: Patrick at November 05, 2009 05:47 PM (OpnaT) 134
If he was mad about being deployed to Iraq , he's going to be really mad about being depolyed to Hell. Why would he be mad? He'll be joining me here! Posted by: Mohammed at November 05, 2009 05:47 PM (VmtE9) 135
shades of that other shooting by a recent convert at the 101 camp during Gulf War II. the enemy within.
Posted by: canuk at November 05, 2009 05:47 PM (LN9Ve) 136
Until someone convinces me otherwise, I am convinced that this Major was riled up by Michelle Bachman's speech. There's blood on that creationist tea-bagger's hands!
Shamuta, please pass me my pills and shoo those pink monkeys from the room Posted by: Cahrsel Jhonsno at November 05, 2009 05:47 PM (sYxEE) 137
Oh dear God.
Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2009 05:47 PM (Ue9UN) 138
For being a recent convert to islam, he seems to have learned the basic principles pretty quickly.
Posted by: Cicero at November 05, 2009 05:47 PM (QKKT0) 139
Wait for the SRM to put the "Bush's fault" and Nationalized healthcare spin on this, you know somebody will. My money is on Frank Rich . Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 05:47 PM (t37e5) 140
The Major's body needs to be cremated. Muslims must be buried whole in order to get into paradise. His twisted religion led him to do this, so deny him --and send a warning to any other muslims-- his eternal "reward".
Also Cocks Posted by: The guy who says Also Cocks at November 05, 2009 05:48 PM (QBQcg) 141
#88 I couldn't resist going over there for the same reason
Posted by: Ben B. at November 05, 2009 05:48 PM (wXmCd) 142
If the two accomplices are also muslim, it could get really ugly, really fast.
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 05, 2009 05:48 PM (ZIl4N) Posted by: mare at November 05, 2009 05:48 PM (X1fsj) 144
Seriously, I tihnk Wolf, Matthews and that makeup wearing sad clown Smith deserve to be kicked in the balls. Assholes. Posted by: Sen. Rev. Dr. E Buzz at November 05, 2009 05:48 PM (dh7zu) Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 05:48 PM (3sdjL) 146
Say his f*cking name, Shep!
If this guy had an Irish sounding name would they be holding back?
Posted by: loppyd at November 05, 2009 05:48 PM (UJIeT) 147
131
Why is Shep infatuated with those on the house floor?
Do anything to get the camera off of me! I'm floundering here! Why is my pancake so thick! This is bush league! Bush league! If you were a man, I would strike you! Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 05:48 PM (hA5JK) 148
Shep thinks he's protecting us from coming to the wrong conclusions. Thank you, Shep, for caring.
Posted by: Cicero at November 05, 2009 05:49 PM (QKKT0) 149
For being a recent convert to islam, he seems to have learned the basic principles pretty quickly.
Cicero wins the thread. Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 05:49 PM (3sdjL) 150
Q. What's the difference between a Muslim and a vampire? A. At some point the vampire (Shep) will stop being bloodthirsty. Posted by: sickinmass at November 05, 2009 05:50 PM (rYWEB) 151
Many tweets on "Shout out"
http://twitter.com/search?q=obama%20shout%20out youtube of shout out (at 1:00 min mark) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0hiw8iXdMM Posted by: D Badd at November 05, 2009 05:50 PM (W0ZhH) 152
Will Obama bring a plastic turkey to the hospital when he visits the victims? This is all wee-wee'd up!
Posted by: joeindc44 at November 05, 2009 05:50 PM (QxSug) 153
I know I shouldn't visit the crazy ward, but look at this from the Lizard King Himself #595 Charles
Whatever the guy's name is -- and that could be an African American name, btw -- it's highly unlikely he could have become a major if he were any kind of radical Islamist. Posted by: eddiebear at November 05, 2009 05:50 PM (wnU1W) 154
Rick Perry on now - confirms numbers, or rather confirms old numbers (20 injured, 9 killed) Somebody needs to get Gov Perry up to speed.
Posted by: Intrepid at November 05, 2009 05:50 PM (92zkk) 155
RIP, Honored Dead.
Posted by: arhooley at November 05, 2009 05:51 PM (jwoys) 156
#96
you may be right.
http:// www.armytimes.com/ news/ 2009/ 04/ army_officer_list_042009w/
(take spaces out of url)
hasan, nidal malik in the medical corps section
Posted by: deftpunk at November 05, 2009 05:51 PM (mrv0s) 157
Cahrsel is painfully reporting that the shooter was Major Malik Hassan
Yes, he highlighted the MAJOR Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2009 05:51 PM (sYxEE) 158
The blog is lagging too much. I'll return later. God rest all those who died at the hands of nuts today. We won't forget.
Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 05:51 PM (3sdjL) 159
Barry is probably getting a tingle up his leg. Not the first time a US military Muslin has decided to kill as many, soon to be deployed, as he could. Shep still doesn't want to release the name. Anyone still doubt Shep's worldview? One more reason to purge the Dims & RINOs. Posted by: MDr at November 05, 2009 05:52 PM (ucq49) 160
Late to the game here....been stuck in traffic out of Boston. Did anyone see Obama's statement? Jay Severin (local radio) is going off about Bammy giving a shout out to someone and not mentioning the shootings until after he spoke about something else.
Posted by: loppyd at November 05, 2009 05:52 PM (UJIeT) 161
shades of that other shooting by a recent convert at the 101 camp during Gulf War II. the enemy within. Posted by: canuk at November 05, 2009 05:47 PM (LN9Ve)
How about that recent convert who shot those two soldiers outside of the recruiting station several months ago. Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 05:52 PM (t37e5) 162
If he is a Major at 39 or 40 as reported, he is either:
1) Former enlisted 2) Passed over for promotion several times or 3) a relatively new officer that joined later in life with specific skills (e.g. medical) Posted by: JFH at November 05, 2009 05:52 PM (DkCuG) 163
The Major's body needs to be cremated. Muslims must be buried whole in order to get into paradise. His twisted religion led him to do this, so deny him --and send a warning to any other muslims-- his eternal "reward".
Fry him in pig lard first. Posted by: Naqamel at November 05, 2009 05:52 PM (UMwMT) 164
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Which .cc is minx attached to? Probably the fucking Cypriots. Can't do jack shit right. Posted by: moron # 26234156 at November 05, 2009 05:52 PM (p1s9n) 165
moslem converts are the worst kind of moslem vermin.
Posted by: nyc redneck at November 05, 2009 05:53 PM (XEuxK) 166
Why hasn't the local news in VA shoved a camera and mic in the face of the shooters family yet?
Posted by: Naan at November 05, 2009 05:53 PM (YR3gL) 167
ABC News Chicago just pronounced his name Hassin (like assasin) but they did mention him being a recent convert.
Facebook page? http://tinyurl.com/malikhassan Posted by: Mychimo at November 05, 2009 05:53 PM (klx6o) 168
Thank God that there's no War on Terror. Too bad about this man-made catastrophe, though.
BTW, I don't give a shit about a moment of silence in the House of Representatives. Democrats feigning concern churn my stomach, the filthy hypocrites. Posted by: CoolCzech at November 05, 2009 05:53 PM (QECjC) 169
Here's an Army psychiatrist named Nidal Malik Hasan at Walter Reed in DC
A picture of Nidal Malik Hasan. Probably not the guy, right? Uh oh. He was at Ft. Hood.. Posted by: DelD at November 05, 2009 05:53 PM (rC+/c) 170
Unbelievable.
Really? This is a country where it's forbidden to say the president's name. Posted by: oblig. at November 05, 2009 05:53 PM (BxbeY) 171
Cahrsel is painfully reporting that the shooter was Major Malik Hassan
Yes, he highlighted the MAJOR WTH difference does his rank make? Posted by: loppyd at November 05, 2009 05:53 PM (UJIeT) 172
153
I know I shouldn't visit the crazy ward, but look at this from the Lizard King Himself #595 Charles
Whatever the guy's name is -- and that could be an African American name, btw -- it's highly unlikely he could have become a major if he were any kind of radical Islamist. Posted by: eddiebear
Those that mastermind such terror acts usually are well educated. See the airport attack in the UK a couple years ago? Weren't those blokes doctors or somesuch? Posted by: drillanwr at November 05, 2009 05:54 PM (1kwr2) 173
In barrys address..after the 15th Uhm, err, and etc...barry gleefully gave a "shout out" to his Surgeon General?. Even my 9 y.o. said "a f'ng shout out?". What an asshole.
Posted by: hutch1200 at November 05, 2009 05:54 PM (07Ull) 174
Please, let us not jump to any obvious, logical, or reasonable conclusions.
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 05, 2009 05:54 PM (8/KZN) 175
"Wolf Blitzer is asking Gen. Honore about the possibility of the shooter being a gang member. Douche."
I'll take dumbass CNN hosts for 2000 Alex Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 05, 2009 05:54 PM (NgoAe) 176
Jesus, Shep literally makes me ill.
Posted by: Doc Holliday at November 05, 2009 05:54 PM (lv7H+) 177
160
Late to the game here....been stuck in traffic out of Boston. Did
anyone see Obama's statement? Jay Severin (local radio) is going off
about Bammy giving a shout out to someone and not mentioning the
shootings until after he spoke about something else.
Yes that is true. He gave a shout out to some Native American something-or-other that he was scheduled to speak at. All happy-happy joy-joy, then he went into serious mode to start talking about Fort Hood. He is such a fake. Posted by: Elizabeth at November 05, 2009 05:54 PM (hA5JK) 178
Just remember that I will be monitoring these comments. Well, actually, I'll be tuning up a hot new set of wheels I just got...but I'll have Kilgore and Sharm paying close attention.
Posted by: Mad King Charles at November 05, 2009 05:55 PM (6ZPfw) 179
The AP just updated its story two minutes ago. The result: still no mention of the primary shooter's name or religious background:
Little was known about the three soldiers suspected of taking part in the attack. The soldier used two handguns, Cone said. It was not clear if the gunman had stopped to reload. The PC information embargo continues. Posted by: Mike Z. at November 05, 2009 05:55 PM (xTzeW) 180
This isn't fucking combat stress. 3 guys don't coordinate to go off on combat stress.
It's insulting to guys really suffering. Posted by: Rocks at November 05, 2009 05:55 PM (MTcoh) 181
He still hasn't said his name has he? What a douche.
Posted by: jewells at November 05, 2009 05:55 PM (lv7H+) 182
And now that I've honored the dead, let me ask: How many people here said "Muslim" when they first heard about this? Me, for one.
Posted by: arhooley at November 05, 2009 05:56 PM (jwoys) 183
Major Hasan obviously misunderstood the true peaceful teachings of Islam. The real tragedy is the inevitable backlash against Muslims, things like sideways glances at the grocery store. The real victims are the Muslims suffering from dirty looks. And though we do not condone the actions of Major Hasan, the only good kuffar is a dead kuffar.
Don't look at me like that infidel! Posted by: Council on American Islamic Relations at November 05, 2009 05:56 PM (sOtz/) 184
It was probably one of ours.
Posted by: Buddhists at November 05, 2009 05:56 PM (GtYrq) 185
Charles Johnson is a fucking liar. No Middle Eastern Christian takes the name "Hassan"; that's a Shiite Muslim name or, as mentioned with that "I-Am-NOBODY'S-Abdul" Malik thing, Black Muslim.
Posted by: Zimriel at November 05, 2009 05:56 PM (rtzHA) 186
Will someone PLEASE tell Shepard Smith that a MAJOR can resign his commission and LEAVE the service at almost the drop of a hat?
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 05:56 PM (hA5JK) 187
Nice catch DelD... I think that's the shitbag POS.
Can't believe shep smith won't use his name.
Dear Shit Smith: ABC already released this motherfucker's name. Catch up, dumbass.
Posted by: Tangonine at November 05, 2009 05:56 PM (C8Pcc) 188
It is absolutely incredible at how the media is willing to speculate about just about any possible motive other than the fact that the one named gunman is a recent MUSLIM convert. Obviously it's much more likely that he is a gang member or maybe opposed to the war or just nuts. It's pretty clear that he was a right-wing Christian fundie who'd been worked up into a froth by Rush Limbaugh and the other purveyors of hate. Posted by: Your Watchdog Media at November 05, 2009 05:56 PM (J5Srq) 189
Malik Hassan, hmmm... sounds like a Rotarian who went on a rampage because of an annual dues increase.
Posted by: The Left-Wing Media at November 05, 2009 05:56 PM (/WLDq) 190
172: yeah. This wasn't some grunt pissed off at his Joanie leaving him
Posted by: eddiebear at November 05, 2009 05:57 PM (wnU1W) 191
#595 Charles
Whatever the guy's name is -- and that could be an African American name, btw -- it's highly unlikely he could have become a major if he were any kind of radical Islamist. Yes, besides my knowledge of coding, music, photography, and bicycles, I'm also a military expert from my time as an extra on the set of The A Team. So MAJOR Malik Hasan is a teabagger, I'm an expert you know Posted by: Commodore Cahrsel Jhonsno at November 05, 2009 05:57 PM (sYxEE) 192
Facebook page? Huh. Extraordinarily enough, as if I didn't need any more proof why I left my homeland just in time before seeing it converted into an unrecognisable place, everyone named "Malik Hassan" is from the London network on my Facebook... Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 05:57 PM (3sdjL) 193
Much as I'd like to welcome Obama into our big tent, his comments disgusted me before addressing the Ft Hood terrorist attack. This man is a bigger opportunist than even me.
I find Shepard Smith equally disgusting in not revealing the name of the terrorist and his prissy pc rant.
Posted by: Newt at November 05, 2009 05:57 PM (XoUUl) Posted by: libbyt at November 05, 2009 05:57 PM (5I0Yr) 195
Shep makes me puke.
Posted by: The Pigs are Flying at November 05, 2009 05:57 PM (ftYT1) 196
President Obama called the Fort Hood shootings a "horrific outburst of violence." "It if difficult enough to lose" soldiers overseas, but said it is "horrifying that they should lose their lives at an Army base in the U.S.," he said.Bill Ayers could not be reached for comment. Posted by: ramms at November 05, 2009 05:58 PM (2ghqI) 197
AP Headline Tomorrow: Shooter was muslim, but it was the fault of the Jooooooooooos and Buuuussssssshhhh.
Posted by: Go MP at November 05, 2009 05:58 PM (DIYmd) 198
Sheptard refuses to name the dead prick. He is lecturing us that "we won't release the name becuase once it's out there you can't take it back".
Posted by: hutch1200 at November 05, 2009 05:58 PM (07Ull) Posted by: Salem at November 05, 2009 05:58 PM (86rbG) 200
Has the President expressed outrage, as he did when Tiller was murdered, or is he just horrified and sad?
Posted by: Steve the Pirate at November 05, 2009 05:58 PM (HHV5A) 201
Holy shit, he's a doctor?
Posted by: arhooley at November 05, 2009 05:58 PM (jwoys) 202
I know I shouldn't visit the crazy ward, but look at this from the Lizard King Himself #595 Charles
Whatever the guy's name is -- and that could be an African American name, btw -- it's highly unlikely he could have become a major if he were any kind of radical Islamist. Posted by: eddiebear Makes me wish I hadn't been banned so I could personally tell Chaz to fuck off. WTF does he know. Posted by: loppyd at November 05, 2009 05:58 PM (UJIeT) 203
March 2003 -- SGT Hasan Akbar, of the 101st Airborne Division, throws a grenade into a command post killing 2 and wounding 14
Today -- MAJ Malik Nadal Hasan opens fire on fellow soldiers killing 12 and wounding 31 As a soldier in the US Army I'm done. I quit. I refuse to be deployed with, work with or train near any Muslim in the US Army for fear of my own life and the lives of my soldiers. This is ridiculous. This so-called religion of peace is a big farking joke now. There is no peace with Islam as demonstrated by the countless attacks by so-called "allies" in the Muslim world on our troops. Even when in sheeps clothing these wolves find ways to murder our troops, troops who are preparing to deploy and put their lives on the line to HELP other Muslims. I will, from this moment on, refuse to have any professional or personal relationships with any Muslim in uniform or who has access to weapons. I'm done. Posted by: Nevyan at November 05, 2009 05:58 PM (DtkDM) 204
Matthews is now reporting the name, based on Fox News reports.... I thought Fox wasn't an actual news organization.
This is a bad, bad week to be the MSM or an Obamaton. Posted by: JB at November 05, 2009 05:58 PM (+5Sk2) 205
Fuckin' Mennonites!
Posted by: hutch1200 at November 05, 2009 05:59 PM (07Ull) 206
So who was saying that Shit Smith was doing a great job covering this, today?
Posted by: Salem at November 05, 2009 05:59 PM (86rbG) 207
I really really want to smash Shep in his smarmy cocksucker.
Posted by: Mal at November 05, 2009 05:59 PM (Z+qzA) 208
Victoria, do mind my asking where in Britain you were from? I have relatives in Birmingham and they don't talk much about what's going on.
Posted by: jewells at November 05, 2009 05:59 PM (lv7H+) 209
180 This isn't fucking combat stress. 3 guys don't coordinate to go off on combat stress.
It's insulting to guys really suffering. Posted by: Rocks AMEN! 182 And now that I've honored the dead, let me ask: How many people here said "Muslim" when they first heard about this? Me, for one. Posted by: arhooley
I second that ... Posted by: drillanwr at November 05, 2009 05:59 PM (1kwr2) 210
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Posted by: MSM at November 05, 2009 05:59 PM (5I0Yr) 211
Where I'm from, I think Hassan is pronounced "Flannery", it's a normal name, and stuff. It's not like the guy sawed his wife's head off with a chainsaw like that marvelous guy in Buffalo for looking at a picture of a woman looking at a picture of a man. Nothing fucked up like that. No, everything is currently normal. I guess we start behaving like these motherfuckers, because the left declares this behavior good. Remember when the asshole lefties wet the floor over Bush reading a book when he heard of 911? They were so nice. Posted by: Sen. Rev. Dr. E Buzz at November 05, 2009 06:00 PM (dh7zu) 212
Maybe Brett Baier will have the guts to NAME the puke.
Posted by: arhooley at November 05, 2009 06:00 PM (jwoys) Posted by: Elizabeth at November 05, 2009 06:00 PM (hA5JK) 214
Okay, time for a real newscaster to take over.
Posted by: Salem at November 05, 2009 06:00 PM (86rbG) Posted by: libbyt at November 05, 2009 06:00 PM (5I0Yr) 216
Thank heaven, Bret Baier is on. Shepturd can go freshen his mascara before the 4pm show. Posted by: Miss Fluffy McNutter at November 05, 2009 06:01 PM (xMSXs) Posted by: Salem at November 05, 2009 06:01 PM (86rbG) 218
It wasn't one of ours.
Posted by: The Mennonites at November 05, 2009 06:01 PM (92zkk) 219
198- and once those bullets leave the gun they can't be taken back either. Shep is just an idiot, but I have no problem with him at Fox. I just don't watch him.
I've met Roger Ailes, and know his MO. If Shep's ratings drop like a stone Shep will be gone. That would be hope and change that I could believe in. Posted by: JB at November 05, 2009 06:01 PM (+5Sk2) 220
I know I shouldn't visit the crazy ward, but look at this from the Lizard King Himself #595 Charles
Whatever the guy's name is -- and that could be an African American name, btw -- it's highly unlikely he could have become a major if he were any kind of radical Islamist.
Posted by: eddiebear at November 05, 2009 05:50 PM (wnU1W) So now Chuck, who used to see Islamist conspiracies under every bed, has now put his reflexive denial glasses on. What a long strange trip it's been for the Lizard King (if I can mix 60s rock band metaphors). Posted by: WalrusRex at November 05, 2009 06:01 PM (xxgag) 221
if oreilly and or hannity is on, this guy's name will get used like a judy doll
Posted by: x11b1p at November 05, 2009 06:01 PM (K3MWP) 222
Do Shep and the other clowns in the DemSM actually have any clue about anything? Especially do they have a clue that anyone with an IQ above room temperature doesn't take what they spew as useful?
Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2009 06:01 PM (sYxEE) 223
The AP finally updates the story with the shooter's name.
They include the following tidbit: The official says investigators are trying to determine if Hasan was his birth name, or if he changed his name and converted to Islam at some point in his life. Posted by: Mike Z. at November 05, 2009 06:02 PM (xTzeW) 224
This incident confirms the need to ban guns on military posts.
Posted by: News-squeak Magazine editorial at November 05, 2009 06:02 PM (q1zgR) 225
I noticed that the Speaker of thr House, prior to the moment of silence, mentioned the "victims of violence" at Ft. Hood. That's not right. They are victims of Major Malik Nadal Hasan and his comrades.
Posted by: motionview at November 05, 2009 06:02 PM (bQLCL) 226
212 Maybe Brett Baier will have the guts to NAME the puke.
Posted by: arhooley at November 05, 2009 06:00 PM (jwoys) Is it really Shep's call whether to release the name? I would expect the producer to have the final say. Posted by: Mætenloch at November 05, 2009 06:02 PM (naB0i) 227
You are all raaaaacists and will be reported to the CiC as soon as he is finished reading My Pet Camel to the Children of CAIR conference.Promise bitches!
Posted by: kkkilgore trouser trout at November 05, 2009 06:02 PM (zERiO) 228
"It if difficult enough to lose" Barry, how many have died in the past year, shouldn't you know that fucking number, like didn't Bush have to know that number according to those cocksucking lefty assholes? Barry, what is the number? I know, that was then, tihs is now, war is good, war is not happening. Obama means peace. What the fucking hell is going on in this country... Posted by: Sen. Rev. Dr. E Buzz at November 05, 2009 06:02 PM (dh7zu) 229
Maybe Brett Baier will have the guts to NAME the puke.
Posted by: arhooley at November 05, 2009 06:00 PM (jwoys) CNN reporting the name. Even my local ABC affiliate just said it. Posted by: loppyd at November 05, 2009 06:02 PM (UJIeT) 230
Not one of ours, either.
Posted by: The Amish at November 05, 2009 06:02 PM (92zkk) 231
I'm guessing he's part of the radicalized wing of the Fellowship of Christian Athletes.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at November 05, 2009 06:02 PM (gHzxf) 232
Will somebody get Shep off of me? I'm getting a blister.
Posted by: The Left's Penis at November 05, 2009 06:03 PM (J5Srq) Posted by: loppyd at November 05, 2009 06:03 PM (UJIeT) 234
Fox coverage on this is a disgrace and no better than the others. No problem speculating about PTSD and lax base security, crazy soldiers etc.
But they have the name of the shooter and are too frightened to give out the name or his connection to islam. What a disgrace. Posted by: DaMav at November 05, 2009 06:03 PM (7NPj+) 235
.....and Keith Ellison is worried someone might pull his daughter's headscraf off.. I knew it, and this bunch of newmen are refusing to give his name....cowards all Posted by: elclynn at November 05, 2009 06:03 PM (rWO3f) 236
Why was I not shocked it turned out to be a Muslim?
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 05, 2009 06:03 PM (QECjC) 237
Nidal means "struggle" in Arabic.
Remember "Umm Nidal" or "Hamas candidate whose four sons were all majors in the splodeydope battalion". Posted by: WTFCI at November 05, 2009 06:03 PM (GtYrq) 238
They finally named him.
Posted by: Mal at November 05, 2009 06:03 PM (Z+qzA) 239
I am starting the think the fucking converts are the ones to watch.
Posted by: Ken Royall at November 05, 2009 06:03 PM (9zzk+) 240
Fox just said the name, which they had not done earlier.
Posted by: PKO Strany at November 05, 2009 06:03 PM (+IzXJ) 241
Well, they just named him. So I guess Shep was just pretending to be the Fox boss,again.
Posted by: Salem at November 05, 2009 06:03 PM (86rbG) 242
I'm with you Nevyan: If you're a mosslim, I view you as a threat. period. fuck political correctness.
Posted by: Tangonine at November 05, 2009 06:03 PM (C8Pcc) 243
Flashback 2008: "I'm tired of being told to fear people just because they look different." Posted by: arhooley at November 05, 2009 06:03 PM (jwoys) 244
Good God this is awful. And by this I mean the President's response.
Posted by: alexthechick at November 05, 2009 06:03 PM (a11WD) 245
Per FoxNews they are not mentioning the name of the dead suspect until they can get on the record confirmation of the soldier's name; specifically they are waiting for confirmation from the DoD. They just gave it out, saying the just got confirmation.
Posted by: MLG at November 05, 2009 06:03 PM (boKpw) 246
And now that I've honored the dead, let me ask: How
many people here said "Muslim" when they first heard about this? Me,
for one.
Posted by: arhooley
I second that ...
Posted by: drillanwr at November 05, 2009 05:59 PM (1kwr2) Just about everybody except the far left and the main stream media, but I repeat myself. Posted by: WalrusRex at November 05, 2009 06:04 PM (xxgag) 247
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Posted by: Don Carne at November 05, 2009 06:04 PM (wSNS7) 248
@220
Please stop keeping him relevant. Don't we have one thread a week for that? (Although the occasional sock puppet is still funny) Posted by: whatever at November 05, 2009 06:04 PM (XIXhw) 249
Centani even said the name TWICE.
Posted by: GregInSeattle at November 05, 2009 06:04 PM (B5cM9) 250
Exit Shepler. In the 1st 3 minutes of Brett'a report - the name was named.
Posted by: MDr at November 05, 2009 06:04 PM (ucq49) Posted by: Derak at November 05, 2009 06:04 PM (lLxSN) 252
He had thought he had signed up for the militant arm of the Salvation Army.
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 06:04 PM (hA5JK) 253
3 minutes after Shep leaves we get the name.
What a joke Fox is becoming. Posted by: jjshaka at November 05, 2009 06:04 PM (Pu33u) 254
198
Sheptard refuses to name the dead prick. He is lecturing us that "we
won't release the name becuase once it's out there you can't take it
back".
Shep, you're a fudge packing sissy boy socialist douchebag. It's out there, and I ain't taking it back Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2009 06:04 PM (sYxEE) 255
I hope FOX was just letting Shep twist and waited to give the green light to Brett.
Posted by: Freida Lay at November 05, 2009 06:05 PM (ax4Qo) 256
I like the excuse that's being thrown around that supposedly the major was a gang member. Seriously, a major that is a gangmember? A guy goes from 2nd lewie to Major and skims by without being noticed that he's a gangmember? Bullshit. Now a muslim convert can skim by because of profiling isn't allowed regarding religion. Now on the two other soldiers that are possibly involved, if they're outed to be also muslims, will they break the story that this was because of instant jihad syndrome? I won't hold my breath, the MSM will bend over backwards to find a cause or any cause for this mass shooting.
Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2009 06:05 PM (vRjxm) 257
Douchebag Chuckie "Quisling" Johnson has taken the final step over to the dark side. He's actually making excuses for muslim murderers of innocent victims. Yeah, its really not as bad as all those wingnut teabaggers/creationists are trying to make it out to be. Probably all just a big misunderstanding. Heck, the guy's probably not even muslim. Did you know that Malik Hasan is a popular name among native-born Scandinavians? I don't think I've ever seen such a more despicable low-life sellout in my life. I'm just wondering what he sold out for. Posted by: Cicero at November 05, 2009 06:05 PM (QKKT0) 258
169/DelD: Too bad they killed the fucker. Should have put him on the rack to figure out motive. "Sorry, buddy, you convert to 7th century religion, we convert to 7th century interrogation techniques. You'll love the Iron Maiden. Oh, you thought that was a BAND?!" I hope he's roasting in Gehenna now. Posted by: Sharkman at November 05, 2009 06:05 PM (sZOIi) 259
It is absolutely incredible at how the media is willing to speculate
about just about any possible motive other than the fact that the one
named gunman is a recent MUSLIM convert. Obviously it's much more likely that he is a gang member or maybe opposed to the war or just nuts.
Can't it be all of the above? A recent muslim convert driven to bloodlust both by the extremists he is now associating with and listening to the likes of Olbermann and the State Media about all of the "warcrimes" our soldiers are committing? Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2009 06:05 PM (7BU4a) 260
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I know I shouldn't visit the crazy ward, but look at this from the Lizard King Himself #595 Charles Whatever the guy's name is -- and that could be an African American name, btw -- it's highly unlikely he could have become a major if he were any kind of radical Islamist. Posted by: eddiebear Makes me wish I hadn't been banned so I could personally tell Chaz to fuck off. WTF does he know.
Posted by: loppyd at November 05, 2009 05:58 PM (UJIeT) What, Charles Johnson never heard of Sudden Jihad Syndrome? And it turns out that African-Americans with names of the same template as Malik Nadal Hassan tend to be Muslims, whether traditional Sunni or Shia Muslims or bizarre Nation of Islam Muslims. Posted by: stuiec at November 05, 2009 06:05 PM (rBLs5) 261
Let's call a shovel a digging implement. We know what this is. And it's homegrown.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 06:06 PM (5Xf3c) 262
You're all RACCISSST!!!
Posted by: Churles Johnson at November 05, 2009 06:06 PM (C8Pcc) 263
I visited the site that must not be named yesterday, first time in about 6 months. It's unrecognizable now. Total KOS territory now. The transition to pure Lib is complete.
Posted by: GregInSeattle at November 05, 2009 06:06 PM (B5cM9) 264
i hate this pos cowardly moslem terrorist going after unarmed soldiers.
Posted by: nyc redneck at November 05, 2009 06:06 PM (XEuxK) 265
Blitzer wants to know if he's a gang member? Well, if the guy's a major he has to be at least 35 years old, right? Probably 40? How many 40-year-old Muslim gang members are there?
Idiot. Posted by: Fresh Air at November 05, 2009 06:06 PM (7r9DK) 266
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Centani even said the name TWICE.
Centani, having been held captive by those bastards, has all the right in the world to say that name slowly and enunciate each syllable with graveness. Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 06:06 PM (hA5JK) 267
If I knew how I would start putting together a timeline comparison with the first similar type attacks and the first attack on America by terrorist's over 20 years ago.
Posted by: PeterPParkenfarker at November 05, 2009 06:06 PM (M+Hfd) 268
Can WE now stop being strip-searched in airport security lines now?
Posted by: Coalition of Grandmas and Wheelchair Bound Travelers at November 05, 2009 06:06 PM (92zkk) 269
FINALLY, Fox commentator says it wasn't a random crazy. None of this PTSD shit, you PC fucks. (Not you guys, I'm just ranting.) Posted by: arhooley at November 05, 2009 06:06 PM (jwoys) 270
Makes me wish I hadn't been banned so I could personally tell Chaz to fuck off. WTF does he know.
Oh, you can say it here and it will get back to him. His little spies and fellow paranoid delusionalists cut and pasta everything they can find relating to their hero. Like this - fuck you Charles! Get 5 million hits from one of my tips lately? No? Tough shit, bike-boy. Posted by: Winston Smith at November 05, 2009 06:06 PM (8XI4A) 271
Religion of Peace, my ass.
Offend them, they'll cut your head off. (Just like the Baptists... wait, nevermind.) The new normal in barryland... this shit "just sort of happens". Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 05, 2009 06:07 PM (MCHyX) 272
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I am starting the think the fucking converts are the ones to watch.
Several intelligence agencies have written that AQ was going to emphasize using converts in America and Europe. Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2009 06:07 PM (sYxEE) Posted by: NY Times at November 05, 2009 06:07 PM (5I0Yr) 274
Shep. Smith is off the air for 30 seconds and they say the name.
Thank goodness he's gone so we can get back to the real news. Posted by: Brenden at November 05, 2009 06:07 PM (54lqZ) 275
The Major's body needs to be cremated. Muslims must be buried whole in
order to get into paradise. His twisted religion led him to do this, so
deny him --and send a warning to any other muslims-- his eternal
"reward".
Soak it in pig's blood first. Posted by: David in San Diego at November 05, 2009 06:07 PM (GF+6V) 276
A black Muslim convert.
The media is already renting the backhoe to dig a hole for this story to be dropped into. Posted by: jjshaka at November 05, 2009 06:08 PM (Pu33u) 277
fox actually technically did the ethical thing in waiting for confirmation, but those ethics were written long before, ya' know, the internet and the 24 hour news cycle, so it was unnecessary, particularly since they knew and acknowledged that everybody else was naming him anyway.
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 06:08 PM (dwwPD) 278
I am starting the think the fucking converts are the ones to watch.
Well, keep a spare eye glued to our Fourth Estate. Those cocksuckers are almost as much to blame. Posted by: Fresh Air at November 05, 2009 06:08 PM (7r9DK) 279
Comment 247 by "Don Carne" needs to be deleted. Either he's a sock, or he's serious. Either way, it's unacceptable.
Posted by: Steve the Pirate at November 05, 2009 06:08 PM (HHV5A) 280
Who was it who said it might've been medical personnel? Spot on. He was a psychiatrist licensed in Silver Spring, Maryland -- according to CBS News.
Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 06:08 PM (3sdjL) 281
By calling this an act of horrific violence and not what it is a jihad,should answers any questions that were still remaining about how serious Democrats are about the war on terror. Posted by: bulwark at November 05, 2009 06:08 PM (jvrmc) 282
But it's not a terrorist incident! No. Way. At. All. Phew, it's a good thing we have the grinding war of attrition going against these guys (you know, the sort of war that pretty much makes everyone a winner except for, well, us). By all means, keep up the PC, everything's awesome, let's kick ass, but not kill anyone, war...of...attrition. BTW, not really sure if anyone picked up on this or not, since I didn't really thumb through this thread, but if we can make the "really wild" (and believe me, this is pretty sarcastic) assumption that this was a terrorist act, this was golden for al-qaeda (and no, I do not think this is awesome). I mean, they just took out the equivalent of a squad (or a platoon if you count the wounded) for very little effort (not to mention continuing to sow seeds of distrust in our military). How much more of this nonsense are we going to allow before we decide to be honest with ourselves and see the enemy for what they truly are? Posted by: Mat at November 05, 2009 06:09 PM (d8AS2) 283
Gee, I don't suppose the DoD, FBI, and various intelligence agencies need to take a long, hard look at Muslims in our military?
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 05, 2009 06:09 PM (QECjC) 284
Time to ban mooselimbs from immigration. Time to ban mooselimbs from the armed forces.
Posted by: MCPO Airdale at November 05, 2009 06:09 PM (UGAk/) 285
The DemSM is still trying to figure out how they can a) blame the shootings on the NRA, and b) whitewash Malik Hassan's conversion to Islam.
Posted by: Sam Adams at November 05, 2009 06:09 PM (1kwr2) 286
Tomorrow's spin
today..."Hasan worked with many soldiers suffering from PTSD and it go
to him. He thought he was saving them from deploying"
Posted by: DrewM. at November 05, 2009 06:09 PM (FCWQb) 287
levin just called out the media on embargoing the jihadi's name. Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at November 05, 2009 06:09 PM (cniXs) Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2009 06:09 PM (vRjxm) Posted by: jewells at November 05, 2009 06:09 PM (lv7H+) 290
From Michelle, 2008: Posted by: arhooley at November 05, 2009 06:09 PM (jwoys) 291
I'm glad Shep finally had to shut his dick-nibbler to let Baer take over. Christ that guy needs a punch in the face real bad. Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 06:09 PM (t37e5) 292
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Has the President expressed outrage, as he did when Tiller was murdered, or is he just horrified and sad?
Posted by: Steve the Pirate at November 05, 2009 05:58 PM (HHV5A) Heck, did Obama ever express outrage when that pro-abortion nut gunned down a pro-life protester? Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2009 06:09 PM (7BU4a) Posted by: Sen. Rev. Dr. E Buzz at November 05, 2009 06:09 PM (dh7zu) Posted by: WalrusRex at November 05, 2009 06:09 PM (xxgag) 295
How many innocent people are going to have to fucking die because of political correctness. The guy was a fucking MUSLIM. let's stop this Religion of Peace BULLSHIT and deal with this problem head-on.
Are you an innocent Muslim who feels aggrieved? DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Why is it you never hear a fucking word from the "99.9% of good, decent Muslims" when tragedies like this occur? Pissed? Why, yes. Posted by: North Philly Sally at November 05, 2009 06:10 PM (y4B2y) 296
I don't think I've ever seen such a more despicable low-life sellout in my life. I'm just wondering what he sold out for.
Vibrating bicycle seat? Posted by: Fresh Air at November 05, 2009 06:10 PM (7r9DK) 297
And now that I've honored the dead, let me ask: How many people here said "Muslim" when they first heard about this? Me, for one. I certainly thought it, but wasn't ready to take initial reports as completely accurate. Multiple shooters could've later turned out to be one guy in different locations. Now- yeah. Muslim, accomplices, on a day there would be more people around... this wasn't someone who just flipped out. This was almost certainly a planned terrorist attack. Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 05, 2009 06:10 PM (rf03a) 298
The motherfucker was probably hopped up on pills he prescribed...to himself!
Posted by: Master Baiter at November 05, 2009 06:11 PM (GfYt/) 299
#282. Sadly, this won't change any minds. Hell, if 9/11 didn't do it, nothing will.
Posted by: jewells at November 05, 2009 06:11 PM (lv7H+) 300
As a soldier in the US Army I'm done. I quit. I refuse to be deployed with, work with or train near any Muslim in the US Army for fear of my own life and the lives of my soldiers. This is ridiculous. Back in the 80s, we'd solve the situation ourselves. But that was before the the PCIG had completely overrun the service. Posted by: Dang Straights at November 05, 2009 06:11 PM (ghfZz) 301
Just got home from work - this is my first stop.
Any info on the other two suspects yet? I haven't seen any... Posted by: tdpwells at November 05, 2009 06:11 PM (Ei3oZ) Posted by: drillanwr at November 05, 2009 06:11 PM (1kwr2) 303
If he was a military psychiatrist I would certainly hope they take a look at who he was treating and see if he was doing any recruiting. Posted by: bulwark at November 05, 2009 06:11 PM (jvrmc) 304
They just had some fucking nitwit on Fox News telling everyone that this wasn't 1) a nutjob or 2) a terrorist attack.
WHAT'S LEFT? Tell us? fucking asshole. Posted by: Churles Johnson at November 05, 2009 06:11 PM (C8Pcc) 305
281Democrats? Serious on War on Terror? You're kidding right?
"We need to listen to the generals! But we can't find the time to meet them face to face! Now the SEIU and ACORN, we got plenty of time for, Gibbs, open up my schedule for the rest of the week with them!" "Anything else sir? A dirty sanchez maybe?" "Ya I'll take one of those." Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2009 06:12 PM (vRjxm) 306
Can we waterboard the accomplices?
Posted by: Methos at November 05, 2009 06:12 PM (IoxPW) 307
I am disgusted and speechless. Need to get out..
Posted by: sickinmass at November 05, 2009 06:12 PM (rYWEB) 308
I'll take Gang Members for $300, Alex!
Posted by: Wolf Blitzer at November 05, 2009 06:12 PM (QECjC) 309
Fox Channel 4 (Central TX) is getting complaints about covering this. Thankfully, they haven't apologized. But what kind of country is this, that wants to hear more about the latest entertainment news than such an evil??
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 05, 2009 06:12 PM (zmiSr) 310
Don't you DARE get me involved in this. I thought you people loved me.
Posted by: Bacon at November 05, 2009 06:12 PM (J5Srq) 311
This reminds me of what Evan Sayet said: "In order to eliminate discrimination, the Modern Liberal has opted to become utterly indiscriminate." "I'll give you an example. At the airports, in order not to discriminate, we have to intentionally make ourselves stupid. We have to pretend we don't know things we do know, and we have to pretend that the next person who is likely to blow up an airplane is as much the 87-year-old Swedish great-great-grandmother as those four 27-year-old imams newly arrived from Syria screaming "Allahu Akbar!" just before they board the plane. In order to eliminate discrimination, the Modern Liberal has opted to become utterly indiscriminate.
Posted by: Gman at November 05, 2009 06:12 PM (Pg4zq) 312
301 Just got home from work - this is my first stop.
Any info on the other two suspects yet? I haven't seen any... Posted by: tdpwells Shep just got off the air. he's on his way to Texas to waterboard them for info. DEVELOPING Posted by: drillanwr at November 05, 2009 06:12 PM (1kwr2) Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 06:12 PM (dwwPD) 314
The Maj thought he was being f-ed over by being sent to Iraq.
Posted by: John ryan at November 05, 2009 06:13 PM (m0Q2u) 315
Steve Centani has no problems saying names of Arabic extraction. Those who kidnapped him and his coworkers were Palestianian terrorists.
Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 06:13 PM (3sdjL) 316
Levin is having no problem saying this piece of shit's name in all of its arabic splendor.
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 05, 2009 06:13 PM (ZIl4N) 317
Obama actually made that little speech about himself....notice that? "there is no greater honor..blah...blah..blah...to protect blahblahblah..." what a pos
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at November 05, 2009 06:13 PM (2pjaO) 318
I don't think I've ever seen such a more despicable low-life sellout in my life.
/totally spoofing on the sellout meme Posted by: Maximalist at November 05, 2009 06:13 PM (7uWb8) 319
182 And now that I've honored the dead, let me ask: How many people here said "Muslim" when they first heard about this? Me, for one.
I thought either muslim or John Kerry. Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 05, 2009 06:13 PM (tKmj0) Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2009 06:13 PM (vRjxm) 321
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0hiw8iXdMM
The you tube of the presidents speech (including the "shout out" and the applause following the hsout out) Disgraceful Posted by: Elizabeth at November 05, 2009 06:14 PM (hA5JK) 322
Well, keep a spare eye glued to our Fourth Estate. Those cocksuckers are almost as much to blame.
Posted by: Fresh Air at November 05, 2009 06:08 PM (7r9DK) The State Media argued Limbaugh was to blame for McVeigh because he criticized the ATF and Clinton's domestic policing policies. The State Media spent 8 years demonizing the American military. Based on their own arguments, how can they escape blame for events like today? Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2009 06:14 PM (7BU4a) 323
see, this is why we need a new national security force as well-funded and trained as the army is.
Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at November 05, 2009 06:14 PM (hCQG5) 324
Fox reporting that Hood is looking for another suspect.
Posted by: PKO Strany at November 05, 2009 06:14 PM (+IzXJ) 325
Mohamed can suck Barry's balls
Posted by: Todd (the guy who is back to saying Obama sucks cock) at November 05, 2009 06:14 PM (LLOGQ) 326
o doesn't give a shit, he saw it as just another opportunity to go on t.v. and be in the spot light.
Posted by: nyc redneck at November 05, 2009 06:14 PM (XEuxK) 327
I am starting the think the fucking converts are the ones to watch.
We agree--we're watching those Catholic converts like *hawks.* Posted by: MSM at November 05, 2009 06:15 PM (HHV5A) 328
Bush never secured THAT base before leaving office.
Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 05, 2009 06:15 PM (EL+OC) 329
You know who the media is going to blame this on next? Richard Jewel.
Posted by: alexthechick at November 05, 2009 06:15 PM (a11WD) 330
They released the other two suspects? Looking for another one? Guy on Baier talking about it now - didn't catch his name...
Posted by: tdpwells at November 05, 2009 06:15 PM (Ei3oZ) 331
Desk job, gets orders to be deployed, convert to Islam, chose a name that means "struggle".
Sudden Jihad Syndrome. Posted by: rawmuse at November 05, 2009 06:15 PM (GHATK) 332
They released the 2 suspects and are looking for a third? I don't even know what to make of that.
Posted by: jewells at November 05, 2009 06:15 PM (lv7H+) 333
Representative on Fox saying that the other two suspects have "been released?" I doubt that's right unless he meant "released from interrogation into custody"...
Also, fourth suspect possible. Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 06:15 PM (dwwPD) 334
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so i guess it wasn't the Texas Secessionists., unless they were using outside contractors
Posted by: John ryan at November 05, 2009 05:35 PM (m0Q2u) Fuck you, you fucking maggot. Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon Flavored Meteors at November 05, 2009 06:15 PM (erIg9) Posted by: tdpwells at November 05, 2009 06:16 PM (Ei3oZ) 336
13 A Major? So hard to believe.
Posted by: mare at November 05, 2009 05:24 PM (X1fsj) A Major? Yes, it's hard to believe. A Major with an islamic name? Not so hard to believe! Posted by: concious, but incoherent at November 05, 2009 06:16 PM (kn+jW) 337
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He's a psychiatrist?
This keeps on getting more and more bizarre. Psychiatrists can be liberal nut jobs too you know. They also said he's a recent convert, I'd look to see who his friends are. However, if they are named "Mohammad" CAIR will make sure we never hear about it. Posted by: shibuimi at November 05, 2009 06:16 PM (OKZrE) Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2009 06:16 PM (Ue9UN) 339
We agree--we're watching those Catholic converts like *hawks.*
And let's not forget those shifty LDS and the Hasidim. Fuckers. Posted by: Ombudsman at November 05, 2009 06:16 PM (y4B2y) 340
Ok, let's follow this liberal asshole line of thought, he was pissed cuz he was going back to Iraq, but what about the other guys, they made enough to murder too? What the fuck is going on around here... Posted by: Sen. Rev. Dr. E Buzz at November 05, 2009 06:17 PM (dh7zu) 341
So the "shooter" was one man with two "handguns". If both pistols had magazines of what, 9 rounds?, then he would have had to have re-loaded several times to kill 12 and wound 30.
Or would the magazines have held 16? Even if that's the case, he would have had to reload a few times, assuming he didn't hit a live person with each round. Posted by: Intrepid at November 05, 2009 06:17 PM (92zkk) 342
shibuimi, oh, I know, believe me, I know many people who work in psychiatry or psychoanalysis and they almost invariable (not always, of course) get into that kind of work because they're a little nutty themselves.
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 06:17 PM (dwwPD) 343
It's the "V" alien sleeper cells, I tell ya.
Posted by: drillanwr at November 05, 2009 06:17 PM (1kwr2) 344
Representative Carter has just told Fox that the two people they had in custody as suspects have been released. But they are on the look out for another person who is considered suspect, and involved in the shooting.
Which means, if there is a second shooter he is still on the loose. Posted by: enoxo at November 05, 2009 06:17 PM (+J6OV) 345
I hope he's roasting in Gehenna now. Posted by: Sharkman at November 05, 2009 06:05 PM (sZOIi) Oh trust me Hell is much worse than roasting in a lake of fire. It is seeing Paradise and knowing that you will never, for all eternity, again find peace or happiness or love. Hell is God turning his back on you, casting you out into the cold, black, silent Void that He spun the world from. Never seeing or hearing another kind voice. Hell is worse than anything you can imagine. And that is too good for this heathen cum-sucking son of a bitch. Posted by: Don Carne at November 05, 2009 06:17 PM (wSNS7) 346
So a Muslim convert attacks a group of soldiers preparing to deploy and these media douchebags just can't figure out what his motive would be?
Posted by: Mal at November 05, 2009 06:17 PM (Z+qzA) 347
Fox News - Congressman Carter saying the two suspects have been released and the authorities are now searching for another suspect. And Hasan being a doctor means he probably made rank faster than usual. But a psychiatrist? I wondered who he counseled/indoctrinated? Posted by: Deanna at November 05, 2009 06:17 PM (Dl+TH) 348
"I hear that Dr. Joe Medicine Crow was around, so I want to give a shoutout to that Congressional Medal of Honour winner. Good to see you."
WTF. This man only has one gear -- "campaign". Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 06:18 PM (3sdjL) 349
Psychiatrists ARE be liberal nut jobs too you know.
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2009 06:18 PM (tJF9l) 350
I am starting the think the fucking converts are the ones to watch.
Absolutely. The guy who shot the soldiers at the Arkansas recruiting station was one. If memory serves, so were the guys arrested this year for planning to attack an ANG airplane and a synagogue. Wasn't this imam who was just killed in Detroit one too? And these are just the recent ones. I told my husband after the imam was killed that we have a fucking fifth column now with these converts, and it's getting worse rapidly. The media never made much of a deal of these, preferring to scare everyone with the teabagger menace, but this shit is serious. Posted by: Frank Rich at November 05, 2009 06:18 PM (g/wgk) 351
Can we waterboard the accomplices?
They're prolly being flown to the Bahama's even as we speak. New identities, 500,000 bucks of 'walking around' money, and new identities. Posted by: Winston Smith at November 05, 2009 06:18 PM (8XI4A) 352
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shibuimi, oh, I know, believe me, I know many people who work in
psychiatry or psychoanalysis and they almost invariable (not always, of
course) get into that kind of work because they're a little nutty
themselves.
Thank you for confirming my suspicion. And condolences to the families of those killed. There was no reason this should have happened to our brave men and women who were going to be deployed. Posted by: shibuimi at November 05, 2009 06:18 PM (OKZrE) Posted by: DngrMse at November 05, 2009 06:18 PM (wynRm) 354
Posted by: North Philly Sally at November 05, 2009 06:10 PM (y4B2y) Posted by: arhooley at November 05, 2009 06:18 PM (jwoys) 355
I question the timing.
Clearly, Barack Hussein needed a change of subject from his election failure Conveniently, he got one from a guy with a suspiciously similar name and background Posted by: someguy at November 05, 2009 06:19 PM (VRJIW) 356
sock off
Posted by: stace at November 05, 2009 06:19 PM (g/wgk) Posted by: notropis at November 05, 2009 06:19 PM (hBk5l) 358
Those that mastermind such terror acts usually are well educated. See the airport attack in the UK a couple years ago? Weren't those blokes doctors or somesuch?
Posted by: drillanwr at November 05, 2009 05:54 PM (1kwr2) Yes, they were. And so is Al-Zawahiri. Apparently Islamic doctors must find the Hippocratic Oath un-Islamic. (No surprise: Hippocrates was an idolator, after all.) Posted by: stuiec at November 05, 2009 06:19 PM (rBLs5) 359
I have a feeling this was a Branch Davidian thing. I bet that's what it is. If you thought the liberal bullshit was bad today, wait until they get started in the next few days, full on whitewash. I bet they will start using his "real name". Good Lord. Posted by: Sen. Rev. Dr. E Buzz at November 05, 2009 06:20 PM (dh7zu) 360
And let's not forget those shifty LDS and the Hasidim. Fuckers.
Yes the mormons here are definitely ready to become instant jihadi's! Someone better notify the White House that the mormons are dangerous! BYU-Idaho where I'm going to school here is just as radical as some Wahhabist mosque in Saudi Arabia. Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2009 06:20 PM (vRjxm) 361
"And so is Al-Zawahiri."
And so was Che Guevara. Not that he was a Muslim, but the medical profession is no stranger to homicidal lunatics. Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 06:20 PM (3sdjL) 362
Psychiatrists ARE be liberal nut jobs too you know.
I know lots of psychiatrists and psychologists. I wouldn't trust most of them to walk my dog. Posted by: Ombudsman at November 05, 2009 06:20 PM (y4B2y) 363
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Posted by: John ryan at November 05, 2009 05:35 PM (m0Q2u) I'll second that sentiment UncleFacts. Crawl back to the shithole you came from JR. Posted by: koopy at November 05, 2009 06:20 PM (a+cN7) 364
I'm not military, and never have been, but I am curious as to why every person on a military base isn't walking around with at least a sidearm. If anyone can enlighten me I'd be very happy to hear it.
Once the first shot rang out those terrorists should have been on the mat within a number of seconds, with quite a few more holes in their bodies than is normal. Posted by: JB at November 05, 2009 06:20 PM (+5Sk2) 365
#167 ~ Mychimo
Nah, it's not his facebook page. That guy has the same name, but he graduated from high school in '98. Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at November 05, 2009 06:20 PM (KWhJd) 366
my brother-in-law in at ft hood right now and isn't answering his cell phone and my sister is going crazy with worry.
i can't tell you what i am feeling inside but its not good
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You know who the media is going to blame this on next? Richard Jewel.
No. Timothy McVeigh. Right Wing Christian White Supremacists. Posted by: shibuimi at November 05, 2009 06:20 PM (OKZrE) 368
And the dead and wounded are all warfighters... been deployed 3-5 tours in Iraq/A-stan.
Figures some pussy POS muslim coward motherfucker who never deployed in his life would ambush them. Angry doesn't cover it. Posted by: Churles Johnson at November 05, 2009 06:20 PM (C8Pcc) 369
FWIW:
Friend of the family is there. He said two separate killing incidents that were planed for the same time. In cahoots. Definitely planned. Definitely deliberate and not some crazed snap event. Posted by: Trish at November 05, 2009 06:21 PM (0U5Kd) 370
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shibuimi, oh, I know, believe me, I know many people who work in
psychiatry or psychoanalysis and they almost invariable (not always, of
course) get into that kind of work because they're a little nutty
themselves.
Thank you for confirming my suspicion. And condolences to the families of those killed. There was no reason this should have happened to our brave men and women who were going to be deployed.
Posted by: shibuimi at November 05, 2009 06:18 PM (OKZrE) Eh, Christian psychiatrists are good people in my experience- because they're operating on the basis of everyone needing God in their lives to heal. I wouldn't lump the entire profession together. They're not all Deepak Chopra blowhards. Posted by: tdpwells at November 05, 2009 06:21 PM (Ei3oZ) 371
A bit of searching comes up with this: http://tinyurl.com/ygb2teb
Dr. Nidal Malik Hasan MD Psychiatry 2 Wramc... That's WRAMC. Walter Reed Army Medical Center. That's kinda close for comfort. Posted by: Chef Mojo at November 05, 2009 06:21 PM (NhsEM) Posted by: Robert Byrd, Klansman at November 05, 2009 06:21 PM (2+9Yx) 373
>>Gee, poor Shep is stumped about what the possible motivation might have been .
He always misses "Jihad" when we play Hangman. Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at November 05, 2009 06:21 PM (hCQG5) 374
Can we purge the military yet?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 06:21 PM (5Xf3c) 375
"I hear that Dr. Joe Medicine Crow was around, so I want to give a shoutout to that Congressional Medal of Honour winner. Good to see you."
Joe Medicine Crow didn't win the MOH he earned it. Posted by: Mal at November 05, 2009 06:21 PM (Z+qzA) Posted by: robtr at November 05, 2009 06:22 PM (fwSHf) 377
navycopjoe.... Update us, I hope he's safe
Posted by: Churles Johnson at November 05, 2009 06:22 PM (C8Pcc) 378
The official says investigators are trying to determine if Hasan was
his birth name, or if he changed his name and converted to Islam at
some point in his life.
So they don't know yet if he's a born muzzie or a convert. Our intrepid DemSM who doesn't want to release anything "they can't take back" are reporting as a fact that he's a "recent convert" If it weren't for the DemSM, the idiots that crank out this would be grubbing change on freeway off-ramps. Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2009 06:22 PM (sYxEE) 379
JB, and somebody will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that those with experience here have mentioned that nowadays army security is mostly based around the perimeters. Generally there's no real reason to have everybody on base armed all the time.
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 06:22 PM (dwwPD) 380
350
I am starting the think the fucking converts are the ones to watch.
Absolutely. The guy who shot the soldiers at the Arkansas recruiting station was one. If memory serves, so were the guys arrested this year for planning to attack an ANG airplane and a synagogue. Wasn't this imam who was just killed in Detroit one too? And these are just the recent ones. I told my husband after the imam was killed that we have a fucking fifth column now with these converts, and it's getting worse rapidly. The media never made much of a deal of these, preferring to scare everyone with the teabagger menace, but this shit is serious.
Posted by: Frank Rich at November 05, 2009 06:18 PM (g/wgk) The term of art in British counter-terrorism is "clean skins." The terrorists want to recruit individuals with no history of radicalism, whether from the Muslim-born community or from the ranks of recent converts. Posted by: stuiec at November 05, 2009 06:22 PM (rBLs5) 381
This kind of reminds me of the Egyptair 990 crash into the ocean off MA in 1999. A supposedly educated, experienced airline captain flew a fully-loaded 767 right into the water. The Egyptians claim it was an accident, but he throttled down the engines and the cockpit voice recorded caught chanting something about being in allah's hands as the plane was diving toward the sea. The fact that this Hasan guy was a Major or even a psychiatrist doesn't trump the fact that he was muslim. That so-called religion is one big basket of not-quite-sane. Posted by: Cicero at November 05, 2009 06:22 PM (QKKT0) 382
There was no reason this should have happened to our brave men and women who were going to be deployed.
Posted by: shibuimi at November 05, 2009 06:18 PM (OKZrE) Posted by: arhooley at November 05, 2009 06:22 PM (jwoys) 383
Can't wait to find out this guys original name and life story.
Posted by: gus at November 05, 2009 06:23 PM (MaqIC) 384
"Dr. Nidal Malik Hasan MD
Psychiatry 2 Wramc.." Wow, Walter Reed...I can see the angle the libs will use -- poor funding, an overstressed healthcare system led to his derangement... Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 06:23 PM (3sdjL) 385
"Was this boy colored?"
Yes, Senator. The President is a black Muslim.
Oh. Don't know about the shooter.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 06:23 PM (5Xf3c) 386
B. Hussein Obama will want to have even tighter gun control laws, no "profiling" and continue on like nothing happened. Meanwhile more and more converts to the so-called "Religion of Peace" will avoid scrutiny until they kill Americans, Christians and Jews while the Left complains about OUR OWN racism in suspecting them...
F the Left. This is WAR now. Posted by: Nevyan at November 05, 2009 06:23 PM (DtkDM) 387
366
my brother-in-law in at ft hood right now and isn't answering his cell phone and my sister is going crazy with worry.
They may just have instructed everyone to shut off their phones. The Congressman who was on earlier said his staffer, who is at the base today, has his cell phone turned off. I hope that is the case and your b-in-law is fine. Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 06:23 PM (sey23) 388
376 Gibbs: We found out why the major had a breakdown! Because George W. Bush lives in Texas! Ha-ha! Bush is responsible for this! Move along folks, nothing to do with the major being a convert!
Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2009 06:24 PM (vRjxm) 389
This fuckrag on Fox has NO CLUE
Posted by: Tangonine at November 05, 2009 06:24 PM (C8Pcc) 390
375
"I hear that Dr. Joe Medicine Crow was around, so I want to give a
shoutout to that Congressional Medal of Honour winner. Good to see
you."
Joe Medicine Crow didn't win the MOH he earned it.
Posted by: Mal at November 05, 2009 06:21 PM (Z+qzA) The word 'earn' isn't in his vocab, you understand. Posted by: tdpwells at November 05, 2009 06:24 PM (Ei3oZ) 391
So the "shooter" was one man with two "handguns". You concern-trolling about guns or something? It ain't the guns, it's the asshole using them to kill people. High capacity magazines. Posted by: Dang Straights at November 05, 2009 06:24 PM (ghfZz) 392
you don't just go "Oh, Fuck, I think I'll kill 30 people today!"
Posted by: Tangonine at November 05, 2009 06:24 PM (C8Pcc) 393
Wow, Walter Reed...I can see the angle the libs will use -- poor
funding, an overstressed healthcare system led to his derangement...
But here's the thing. If you are angry in your job, you target your BOSS. Not your co-workers. Your argument isn't logical, so I'm guessing the libtards will definitely use it. Posted by: shibuimi at November 05, 2009 06:25 PM (OKZrE) 394
"you don't just go "Oh, Fuck, I think I'll kill 30 people today!" "
Of course not. You think it right to left.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 06:26 PM (5Xf3c) 395
I can see the angle the libs will use -- poor funding, an overstressed healthcare system led to his derangement... They're entirely predictable, yet somehow the RNC/GOP will be caught flat-footed by this attack. Posted by: Dang Straights at November 05, 2009 06:26 PM (ghfZz) 396
366
The Red Cross is offering information on their website.
http://tinyurl.com/3gj8ul Praying for you and yours. Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 05, 2009 06:26 PM (zmiSr) 397
about the cell phones.
If someone is still at large, which is the latest report, then they may want to have phones off so that they can identify the bad guy who may keep his on to communicate with collaborators... ? Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 06:26 PM (sey23) 398
This kind of reminds me of the Egyptair 990 crash into the ocean off MA in 1999. From what I've read, one of the co-pilots was to be fired upon return to home, and he snapped. One of the pilots fought to save the plane, but lost. So it wasn't an accident by any means, but it may have just been one man. Posted by: Mr. Crabington at November 05, 2009 06:26 PM (ia/06) 399
361
"And so is Al-Zawahiri."
And so was Che Guevara. Not that he was a Muslim, but the medical profession is no stranger to homicidal lunatics.
Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 06:20 PM (3sdjL) Fascinating book: The Nazi Doctors. Lays out how many of Germany's medical professionals were part, parcel and promoters of the Final Solution. It's easy to justify using medical skills to eradicate one's enemy, if one sees the enemy as a disease. Posted by: stuiec at November 05, 2009 06:26 PM (rBLs5) 400
http://www.vahealthprovider.com/results_generalinfo.asp?License_No=0101238630
Posted by: Gerry at November 05, 2009 06:26 PM (iiwJV) 401
Can you believe this shit.... from talking points memo comments on this story-
"This is inexcusable, but then again what can you expect given the circumstances? You have people being emotionally and physically stressed beyond endurance. You have people being taught that killing someone is how you solve problems. You have a system that degrades individuals. It is to the credit of most soldiers' parents and the way they raised their kids that this kind of thing hasn't happened more often. There was an opinion piece the other day about how dumb it is to arm and train the people who in the future will be fighting against us (the Afghan jihadis). The same thing can be said about training our own soldiers that "the other" is anyone in opposition and killing them is the only option. What happens when these guys are turned loose in civilian society at the end of their service? How do you reprogram them from a military mindset to a civilian mindset? The evidence seems to be that no one has figured that out. Too many soldiers have been completely unable to adjust." Un freakin believable!!! Posted by: Odell Roo at November 05, 2009 06:27 PM (hetYy) 402
I work with two psychiatrists that are very kind, gentle men. One a conservative. They are nothing like is being described in this thread.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at November 05, 2009 06:27 PM (2pjaO) 403
366 my brother-in-law in at ft hood right now and isn't answering his cell phone and my sister is going crazy with worry. i can't tell you what i am feeling inside but its not good
Posted by: navycopjoe Prayers and positive thoughts. Posted by: drillanwr at November 05, 2009 06:27 PM (1kwr2) Posted by: Countrysquire at November 05, 2009 06:27 PM (ZIl4N) 405
my brother-in-law in at ft hood right now and isn't answering his cell phone and my sister is going crazy with worry.
i can't tell you what i am feeling inside but its not good
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2009 06:20 PM (tdGl3) Damn navy, thats rough, I hope all turns out well. I'll say a prayer for your family. You and your sis try and hang in there. Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 06:27 PM (+FzLa) 406
Generally there's no real reason to have everybody on base armed all the time.
Soldiers on base are not armed unless they are in training exercises or on maneuvers. They don't just walk around with loaded weapons unless they are MP's. Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2009 06:27 PM (Ue9UN) 407
This fuckrag on Fox has NO CLUE
Gen. Scales is usually pretty good. They've obviously beaten this bullshit into them Posted by: Ombudsman at November 05, 2009 06:27 PM (y4B2y) 408
I doubt if Obama actually cares much about a Jihadi bezerker killing troops on an Army base in Texas. The way he structured his speech shows he was just going through the obligatory motions.
Posted by: Huckleberry at November 05, 2009 06:27 PM (s2bW4) Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2009 06:28 PM (Ue9UN) 410
Damn navy, thats rough, I hope all turns out well. I'll say a prayer for your family. You and your sis try and hang in there.
Amen. Ditto. Posted by: Ombudsman at November 05, 2009 06:28 PM (y4B2y) 411
He ain't a major, he's a doctor (the officer rank is only for pay/rank purposes in deference to his profession and not as an indicator of a REAL officer)
Posted by: JFH at November 05, 2009 06:28 PM (DkCuG) 412
Desk job, gets orders to be deployed, convert to Islam, chose a name that means "struggle". Adolf Kampf would've raised too many red flags, so he went with something nondescript like Malik Nadal Hasan. Posted by: FireHorse at November 05, 2009 06:29 PM (Vl5GH) 413
I know this may be silly, but I'm actually looking forward to McCain's remarks on this. Hope springs eternal . . .
Posted by: arhooley at November 05, 2009 06:29 PM (jwoys) 414
#294, No, Obama's new Indian name is My Pet Goat. No one can mock Bush on his disaster-awareness management any more. "Great Job Brownie" would be a Czar in this administration. And yesterday, The O had his "Mission Accomplished" moment. I disagree, strongly, with the "no name from Shep" strategy. Don't be blinded by a natural dislike for Smith: waiting for official sources is a swell say to stay on the right side of military PR, and Fox has better in's with them than the officially-approved networks. Those courtesies mean a lot to the Army, and those connections are worth preserving for future source material. Note that when Smith identified his network to Soldiers inside the post, they called him by name. You can tell what channel they watch. What you were seeing there, with KB Hutchinson, was a lightning round of "Who's The Real News Media Now?" with Fox for the win. I watched it as it happened, and there was no PC involved, only PR. All proper. Posted by: comatus at November 05, 2009 06:29 PM (/VEEI) 415
talking points memo can also go fuck themselves.
apparently those assholes are getting their talking points from Janet Napolitano. assholes. the lot of them. Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon Flavored Meteors at November 05, 2009 06:29 PM (erIg9) 416
Don't know if this has been posted yet, but FWIW, (usually) medical officers enter the military as a Captain. They get promotions pretty easily and pretty quickly for retention. Him being a Major means he's been in at least 2 to 4 years.
Posted by: Joycer at November 05, 2009 06:29 PM (WWTNl) 417
I'm not military, and never have been, but I am curious as to why every
person on a military base isn't walking around with at least a
sidearm. If anyone can enlighten me I'd be very happy to hear it.
Because it's not in a combat zone. Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 05, 2009 06:30 PM (ZJ/un) 418
364 JB, If everyone was armed - you would have more losses due to accidental shootings then these occasional attacks. Safety is paramount. You have no idea how screwed up things can get with thousands of 19yo guys running around in the dark with heavy equipment everywhere. If we went back to arming officers and senior NCOs - then maybe.
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2009 06:30 PM (tJF9l) 419
I'm waiting for ACORN to take credit for the attack.
Posted by: Tangonine at November 05, 2009 06:30 PM (C8Pcc) 420
Somehow, this pussy-assed Dr. turned "soldier" pulled his cock out of a goat long enough to figure out how a fucking weapon works. Shame we had to gun his worthless ass down like a pig. Coulda been useful at some point.
Posted by: What a Real General Would Say at November 05, 2009 06:30 PM (5Xf3c) 421
@391 "You concern-trolling about guns or something? It ain't the guns, it's
the asshole using them to kill people. High capacity magazines."
Err, no, Dang Straights, I'm just trying to understand how the Lt General could say that the gunman didn't re-load, while he also said the shooter used two handguns. I'm not up on my types of handguns nor gun-ammo capacity, unlike many are here. And I am no concern troll, sir. I'd thank you to not accuse me of such. Just trying to understand why the General said what he said. Posted by: Intrepid at November 05, 2009 06:31 PM (92zkk) 422
Navycopjoe - As stated above shutting off cell phones might be part of 'lockdown' protocal.
On the otherhand, when something like this happens in such a big area of population the lines tend to jam with traffic too.
Posted by: drillanwr at November 05, 2009 06:31 PM (1kwr2) 423
Apparently, he works or worked at the Center for the Study of Traumatic Stress.
This should be his picture. Posted by: notropis at November 05, 2009 06:31 PM (hBk5l) 424
Adolf Kampf would've raised too many red flags, so he went with something nondescript like Malik Nadal Hasan.
Yep, old Adolf would have been cashiered posthaste Posted by: Ombudsman at November 05, 2009 06:31 PM (y4B2y) 425
For fuck's sake! As of this moment (2:41 PM PST), the AP is still not
providing the name or religious background of the primary shooter.
I remember a time, not all that long ago, when LGF would be screaming a blue streak about this deliberate withholding of information. Nowadays, not so much. Posted by: OregonMuse at November 05, 2009 06:31 PM (eR37w) 426
Printer Friendly Version Printer Icon Nidal Malik Hasan, MD LICENSE # 0101238630 Issue Date: 7/12/2005 Expiration Date: 9/30/2010 Status: Current Active General InformationEducationCertifications & Practice AreaInsuranceHonors & AwardsAcademic Appointments & PublicationsProceedings, Actions & ConvictionsPaid Claims Unless otherwise indicated, this information has been self-reported and has not been verified by the Board of Medicine. Primary Practice Address Last Updated 10/13/2009 Darnall Army Medical Center 36000 Darnall Loop Ft. Hood, TX 76544 Phone: 301-547-1599 Location Details * Practitioner spends 90% of time at this location. * Days that practitioner sees patients at this location: Mon,Tue,Wed,Thur,Fri Years in Active Clinical Practice Last Updated 10/13/2009 Years in Active Clinical Practice Inside US/Canada: Less than 1 year Medicaid Last Updated 10/13/2009 Does Not Participate in the Virginia Medicaid program Is not accepting new Virginia Medicaid patients Virginia Hospital Affiliations Last Updated 10/13/2009 None Reported Hospital Affiliations in States Other Than Virginia Last Updated 10/13/2009 (Ft. Hood,TX) Darnall Army Medical Center Posted by: Gerry at November 05, 2009 06:31 PM (iiwJV) 427
I know many people who work in
psychiatry or psychoanalysis and they almost invariable (not always, of
course) get into that kind of work because they're a little nutty
themselves.
Let's not forget that Charles Krauthammer, ShrinkWrapped, and Dr. Sanity are psychiatrists. And Dr. Sanity is former military (Air Force), I think. Posted by: PA Cat at November 05, 2009 06:31 PM (zVthp) 428
Oh. My. God. ABC Radio news just brought up the Luby's Cafeteria killings. As if that's somehow related. OK, a bunch of folks got killed but I can't see any other link. Posted by: Scott J. at November 05, 2009 06:32 PM (NY7mQ) 429
Nice sleuthing, Gerry! And Chief Mojo before you.
Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 06:32 PM (3sdjL) 430
Actually, if he's was a doctor, having a Major's rank isn't that big a stretch [depending on his medical specialty and degree level].
Outside of the Medical Corps, the number of slots for Major is very small. That's why you hear of so many 'Captains leaving the service' stories every year [think feeding a fire hose through an eyedropper...]. As to the 'other shooter[s]', if found guilty, the Army still has a hangman [95C80 I believe...]. |||||||| The reporting at Fox is getting better, now that Shep is gone. The name is out. And I want to know which mosque this cockroach went to. Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 05, 2009 06:32 PM (lYKj1) 431
And a brief description.
Posted by: notropis at November 05, 2009 06:33 PM (hBk5l) 432
Shit he's white. WTF? When did honkies start sticking their ass in the air for allah?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 06:33 PM (5Xf3c) 433
Reports are that the police officer that was killed was the one the snuffed the terrorist muslim.
Posted by: Go MP at November 05, 2009 06:33 PM (DIYmd) 434
Brett Baer: We don't want to speculate on his motives.....
Right. He was obviously pissed at the quality of the kosher meals on base Posted by: Ombudsman at November 05, 2009 06:33 PM (y4B2y) 435
If everyone was armed - you would have more losses due to accidental
shootings then these occasional attacks. Safety is paramount.
I belong to a shooting range that bars concealed carry and only allows open carry if you're taking part in an event that has officials checking that your weapon is empty -- magazine AND chamber. Everyone there has a gun close to hand, but, yes, it's a safety concern. Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 05, 2009 06:33 PM (ZJ/un) 436
Posted by: Odell Roo at November 05, 2009 06:27 PM (hetYy)
Those fucks are the same who would have protested to leave the Nazis to their own devices and stop inflicting our values on them. Posted by: tdpwells at November 05, 2009 06:34 PM (Ei3oZ) 437
Hangman? Good. Needles are for rapists. Ropes are political.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 06:34 PM (5Xf3c) 438
"high cap mags" doesn't even come close to explaining how you kill 13 and wound 31. Even assuming a hit on every round you have 44 rounds fired. and that would NEVER EVER fucking happen.
The guys he was shooting at were combat vets. You think they're just gonna fucking line up to be shot? If you've ever shot a handgun in a combat situation you would know you need about a 4-1 ratio for rounds fired to rounds on target, so he had to have ~ 180 rounds of ammo. Yeah. The standard hippie clip holds 10 rounds, in Texas you'll get 15 per. Posted by: Tangonine at November 05, 2009 06:35 PM (C8Pcc) 439
my brother-in-law in at ft hood right now and isn't answering his cell phone and my sister is going crazy with worry. i can't tell you what i am feeling inside but its not good
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2009 06:20 PM (tdGl3)
Tell your sister to calm down...all coms are in lock down. Prayers to you and your family. Posted by: Mikki at November 05, 2009 06:35 PM (8knER) 440
Let's not forget the shooting in Arkansas of the 2 Marine recruiters, by yes a terrorist muslim.
Posted by: Go MP at November 05, 2009 06:36 PM (DIYmd) 441
Medical, Osteopathic, or Podiatric School
Last Updated 10/13/2009 Grad School: Uniformed Services University Of The Health Sciences F. Edward Herbert School Of Medicine - Bethesda MD Year Completed: 2003 Medical, Osteopathic, or Podiatric Post Grad School Last Updated 10/13/2009 Psychiatry WRAMC Washington, DC USA Year Residency Completed: 2007 Disaster and Preventive Psychiatry USUHS/WRAMC Bethesda, MD USA Year Fellowship Completed: 2009 Posted by: Gerry at November 05, 2009 06:36 PM (iiwJV) 442
>>>> Obama's Indian name is Laying Down Bullshit. actually, its 'White Headed Eagle" [I think they just officially called him an Oreo] Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at November 05, 2009 06:36 PM (hCQG5) 443
Unless otherwise indicated, this information has been self-reported and has not been
verified by the Board of Medicine.
Board Certification Recognized by the American Board of Medical Specialties, Bureau of Osteopathic Specialists and Boards of Certification, the American Board of Multiple Specialties in Podiatry, or Council on Podiatric Medical Education. Last Updated 10/13/2009 None Reported Self-Designated Practice Areas Last Updated 10/13/2009 Psychiatry Posted by: Gerry at November 05, 2009 06:37 PM (iiwJV) Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 06:37 PM (3sdjL) 445
Hangman? Good. Needles are for rapists. Ropes are political.
HM, truer words were never spoken. The noose is for traitors. Posted by: Ombudsman at November 05, 2009 06:37 PM (y4B2y) 446
"403
366
my brother-in-law in at ft hood right now and isn't answering his cell
phone and my sister is going crazy with worry. i can't tell you what i
am feeling inside but its not good
Posted by: navycopjoe Prayers and positive thoughts. Posted by: drillanwr at November 05, 2009 06:27 PM (1kwr2)" Been praying and posting, (didn't know I could do that until today) since I heard, just asked to have those prayers credited to you and yours too. Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 06:38 PM (p302b) 447
B. Hussein Obama will want to have even tighter gun control laws
Yep, we certainly can't trust soldiers to have guns. This is apparently a picture of Hasan. Posted by: Wise Mongol at November 05, 2009 06:38 PM (6+SS9) 448
Honors
and Awards - Optional
Last Updated 10/13/2009 Practitioners had the option of completing this section. This practitioner has not provided any information regarding honors and awards. Posted by: Gerry at November 05, 2009 06:38 PM (iiwJV) 449
"Brett Baer: We don't want to speculate on his motives.....
Right. He was obviously pissed at the quality of the kosher meals on base" Lack of affordable healthcare, please get the talking points straight. Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at November 05, 2009 06:38 PM (NgoAe) Posted by: Dang Straights at November 05, 2009 06:39 PM (ghfZz) 451
Last Updated 10/13/2009
Psychiatry
Should we read anything into the fact that he did this almost a month after his professional records were updated? License renewal? Medical Board review? Sanction? Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 06:39 PM (3sdjL) 452
About 10 minutes ago, the congressman on Fox said that his aide that was on the post who he talked to earlier had his phone off as part of the lockdown.
Posted by: Go MP at November 05, 2009 06:39 PM (DIYmd) Posted by: Intrepid at November 05, 2009 06:39 PM (92zkk) 454
So, this guy was an osteopath turned psychiatrist and went directly to Walter Reed? Doesn't sound kosher, pardon the pun.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at November 05, 2009 06:39 PM (2pjaO) Posted by: Rocks at November 05, 2009 06:40 PM (MTcoh) 456
Academic Appointments
Last Updated 10/13/2009 None Reported Academic Appointments - Non-US Last Updated 10/13/2009 None Reported Publications (up to ten in the last five years) Last Updated 10/13/2009 None Reported Posted by: Gerry at November 05, 2009 06:40 PM (iiwJV) 457
navycopjoe--
I'm sure all is well. Your BIL is just locked in a closet somewhere until the all-clear kick is given.
God protect him.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 06:40 PM (5Xf3c) 458
Shit he's white. WTF? When did honkies start sticking their ass in the air for allah?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 06:33 PM (5Xf3c) Doesn't mean a damn thing. There are millions of white, fair skinned, blue eyed muslims in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet states. Chechnya for instance. Also there are plenty of non-white Catholics, baptists, etc., so on and so forth. Color isn't the issue here. Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 06:40 PM (+FzLa) 459
Felony Conviction Information
Last Updated 10/13/2009 None Reported Virginia Board of Medicine Notices and Orders Verified by Board No Notices or Orders on file Actions Taken by States/Organizations Other than the Virginia Board of Medicine Last Updated 10/13/2009 None Reported Posted by: Gerry at November 05, 2009 06:41 PM (iiwJV) 460
Wait - this scum worked on feet and heads? How does that link together?
He was one of those greedy docs who yanked out tonsils AND amputated feet.
Posted by: PA Cat at November 05, 2009 06:41 PM (zVthp) 461
"This is apparently a picture of Hasan."
He doesn't look that Irish Catholic to me. He looks a bit like Richard Moll, the actor who played in Night Court... Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 06:41 PM (3sdjL) 462
How the hell is this not a terrorist attack? How? Even if this wasn't an organized cell, it's still an act of terror.
Posted by: alexthechick at November 05, 2009 06:42 PM (a11WD) 463
If i hear one more fucking douchebag say "oh this wasn't a terrorist attack"...
FUCK! HE WAS A FUCKING MUSLIM! HELLO! Posted by: Tangonine at November 05, 2009 06:42 PM (C8Pcc) 464
Look, they can say this is not "terrorist" related all they want, and I would probably give them the benefit of the doubt. The only thing against the "lone" wolf, freaked out, person is there was more than 1 shooter or accomplice. Three "lone" wolves? I don't think so.....
Posted by: Donna at November 05, 2009 06:42 PM (6heFO) 465
Hmmm, I thought Obama's Indian name was Chief Squatting Dog.
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 05, 2009 06:42 PM (QECjC) 466
An ex-osteopath?? WHAT. What a weird weird story. Why do I have a sinking feeling he specifically changed specialisations, so as to better get a foothold in a prominent military base.
Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 06:43 PM (3sdjL) 467
I hold Obama and his administration repsonsible for this act and any that follow. Liberals are mentally deranged! They are also clueless and inept!
Posted by: NoCAGal at November 05, 2009 06:43 PM (bdsd0) 468
Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 06:40 PM (+FzLa)
True. But assumptions get you. "Recent Muslim convert" named "Malik" just didn't scream "Frenchy from Eau Claire WI" to me.
So I'm a racist. Sue me.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 06:44 PM (5Xf3c) 469
Paid Claims in the last ten years
Last Updated 10/13/2009
The licensee has reported the following paid claims in the past ten years:
None Reported ---------------------------------------- I don't think "Insurance" is relevant, so that's all from the Virginia Board of Medicine Posted by: Gerry at November 05, 2009 06:44 PM (iiwJV) 470
By definition: If you're a raghead and your victims are in the double digits...
Y O U ' R E A T E R R O R I S T fuckers. Posted by: Tangonine at November 05, 2009 06:44 PM (C8Pcc) 471
The guys he was shooting at were combat vets. You think they're just gonna fucking line up to be shot?
This is gonna be a real weird story once it comes out. Somebody trained these clowns to maximize casualties among veteran military personnel. This is not like shooting up a bunch of terrified unarmed civilians in a hotel. It's not like the guy went to a seminar in Orlando on "PTSS, Kill Zones, and Today's Practitioner'. Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 05, 2009 06:45 PM (aC0uO) 472
Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 06:40 PM (+FzLa)
True. But assumptions get you. "Recent Muslim convert" named "Malik" just didn't scream "Frenchy from Eau Claire WI" to me.
So I'm a racist. Sue me. But when DID honkies start sticking their ass in the air for allah? AND THE EVER LOVING FUCK DOES THIS COMMENT THINGY TELL ME I MISPELLED allah IF I DON'T CAPITALIZE IT?
Blow me, PC spellcheckthingy.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 06:45 PM (5Xf3c) 473
Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 06:40 PM (+FzLa)
True. But assumptions get you. "Recent Muslim convert" named "Malik" just didn't scream "Frenchy from Eau Claire WI" to me.
So I'm a racist. Sue me. But when DID honkies start sticking their ass in the air for allah? AND WHY THE EVER LOVING FUCK DOES THIS COMMENT THINGY TELL ME I MISPELLED allah IF I DON'T CAPITALIZE IT?
Blow me, PC spellcheckthingy.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 06:46 PM (5Xf3c) 474
Thank God a loyal po-po was carrying and put the puke down.
Posted by: Henkel,Harry at November 05, 2009 06:47 PM (i1jMO) 475
Oops. Mea cupola. With a weathervane.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 06:47 PM (5Xf3c) 476
Dr. Nidal Malik Hasan MD
Psychiatry
2 Wramc Department
6900 Georgia Avenue, NW
Washington ,
DC - 20307
301-625-9797
Posted by: Gerry at November 05, 2009 06:47 PM (iiwJV) 477
What is Bret Baer nattering on ABOUT? The one time I want wall-to-wall coverage of a news event, and not the death of a superstar, I get stories about shopping.
Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 06:48 PM (3sdjL) Posted by: Gerry at November 05, 2009 06:48 PM (iiwJV) 479
Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 06:40 PM (+FzLa) True. But assumptions get you. "Recent Muslim convert" named "Malik" just didn't scream "Frenchy from Eau Claire WI" to me. So I'm a racist. Sue me.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 06:44 PM (5Xf3c)
I realize its weird, but there are millions of caucasians named Muhammed and Achmed living in in Eurasia.
Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 06:48 PM (+FzLa) 480
Don't assume that "waiting for minx.whatthefuck" means your shit didn't go through. Lesson learned. But I get lotsa credit for high poster....
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 06:49 PM (5Xf3c) 481
Rob @ 435 -- That range is full of older, professionals. Not 19 year olds running on little sleep, less sex, and lots of stress. I remember having problems just with knives - guys throwing them, cutting themselves, etc. - add in vehicles then guns (holy shit). I have a better idea, lets assign a senior NCO (armed) to every Muslim - kinda like what they do with Lt on Special Weapon details.
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2009 06:49 PM (tJF9l) 482
I am trying to recall if the FBI has labeled any post 9/11 attack as terror related. I don't think they have.
Posted by: jenn at November 05, 2009 06:49 PM (WNcvq) 483
navycopjoe, wishing for the best for your BIL and sister.
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at November 05, 2009 06:50 PM (KWhJd) 484
If they released the 2 they had then there are others who got away.
A friggin psychiatrist, even a military one, does not kill 12 and would 30 with 2 handguns, unless they we're uzis. It ain't friggin happening. They better be on high alert on the border. Posted by: Rocks at November 05, 2009 06:50 PM (MTcoh) 485
107 -- Yeah. unfortunately, yeah.
A shout out of my own: sending prayers and much love for 3B/1Cav; our minds and hearts are with you.
Posted by: unknown jane at November 05, 2009 06:50 PM (5/yRG) 486
Jeez, this sites html, just went full retard.
Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 06:51 PM (+FzLa) 487
I'll own up - I thought he was a Black Muslim too, based on the "Malik" which I hardly ever see outside (1) Baathists in Syria and Iraq, and (2) Black Muslims.
The comments I posted speculating on that were the result of insta prejudice and for that I apologise to AoSHQ's hosts, commenters, and any visitors who happen to be black.
I think I'll go for a walk now.
Posted by: Zimriel at November 05, 2009 06:51 PM (rtzHA) 488
"They better be on high alert on the border."
That there is some funny shit.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 06:51 PM (5Xf3c) 489
This event is not the first such act of it's kind taken by an American serviceman during this war, we lost other officers in Iraq or Kuwait at the onset of the war when another Muslim who was "conflicted" blew up a tent with officers inside.
I know that folks are pissed off but the enemy is inside the gate and resolving this kind of problem won't be easy if it is seriously addressed at all. Let it sink in that this Muslim convert was "Major" in the US forces and a doctor tasked with looking after the mental well being of our troops, apparently, I am very curious at what point that he decided "we" we're the enemy. Posted by: Drider at November 05, 2009 06:51 PM (aZn+0) 490
Seems incredible, but there is another doctor with exactly the same first and last names who practices in Chicago, but is listed as "Endocrinology, Diabetes & Metabolism"
Posted by: Gerry at November 05, 2009 06:52 PM (iiwJV) 491
This Ain't Hell has a copy of Hasan's Officer Record Brief. thisainthell.us./blog/ Don't ask me how, I don't know how.
Posted by: Dale in San Antonio (Not Dave!) at November 05, 2009 06:52 PM (sXEVG) 492
Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 06:51 PM (+FzLa)
Nah. You're just old. Fucker.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 06:52 PM (5Xf3c) 493
We all knew this day was coming,just not exactly when,where or how.What is happening to our country is a clear example of dumbing down the population,as stated ever so precisely earlier in the thread.Kudos to that hand,you nailed it dead on the head.
Ignoring the clear threat of stealth Jihadism is like standing around waiting to become a statistic.
It is high time to face the reality that the religion of peace needs to be put on a very short leash,with a ankle transmitter.The proof is evident,ignore it at your own peril.
Posted by: 4ican at November 05, 2009 06:53 PM (qFtMG) 494
may be same as in #490, but another Dr. Nidal Hasan listed in Indiana
Posted by: Gerry at November 05, 2009 06:53 PM (iiwJV) Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2009 06:54 PM (sYxEE) 496
Nope, looks like a third one: "Geriatrician, Internist"
Posted by: Gerry at November 05, 2009 06:54 PM (iiwJV) 497
lesson learned:
Every soldier, sailor and airman should carry a personal defense weapon while on duty. Posted by: Tangonine at November 05, 2009 06:54 PM (C8Pcc) 498
pa pa pa pa pooooopy!
Posted by: John ryan at November 05, 2009 06:54 PM (m0Q2u) 499
Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 06:33 PM (5Xf3c)
Jawa had report in the last several weeks of an AQ 'German Village' in Pakistan. Yup, a settlement full of German 'converts', and yeah, I suspect they're being 'trained'. The next question: is there an 'American Village'? Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 05, 2009 06:55 PM (lYKj1) 500
This is apparently a very common name. There is a guy with this name
who is an endocrinologist in Chicago, another guy with this name who is
a reporter and still another guy with this name who has a master of
public health and is how here in some kind of uniform.
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 06:55 PM (p302b) 501
and marine.. sorry jarheads didn't mean to leave you out. but you were off starting a fight with one of the other branches so I doubt you missed it.
Posted by: Tangonine at November 05, 2009 06:55 PM (C8Pcc) 502
Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 06:51 PM (+FzLa)
Nah. You're just old. Fucker.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 06:52 PM (5Xf3c) Looks like somebody didnt have their glass of prune juice and Metamucil today. Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 06:56 PM (+FzLa) 503
Well, the other suspects have been released so he could be a freak out suspect. It is reported he didn't want to deploy. Now we will be deluged with "deployment" fatigue stories. Funny way to choose not to be deployed.I can't help but think his Religious"status" had something to do with this.
Posted by: Donna at November 05, 2009 06:56 PM (6heFO) 504
Per his ORB, when he signed up he had No Religious Preference.
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2009 06:56 PM (tJF9l) 505
I think the news may be getting the name wrong. First it was Nadal with two "a"s, then that was largely changed to Nidal with an "i". Now Drudge has linked to a reversal of first and middle names. The state board of physicians in Maryland has only one past licensee with last name Hasan. First name is Nidal. Not sure if the license is for a psychiatrist, the website isn't very user friendly.
Posted by: ArrMatey at November 05, 2009 06:57 PM (Ir8C5) Posted by: Dang Straights at November 05, 2009 06:57 PM (ghfZz) 507
A recent Muslim convert is probably from here, not the Mid East. These are Americans turning to Islam and against America.
Posted by: Dana at November 05, 2009 06:57 PM (JPM4E) 508
I mean... well... fuck. I'm a vet but I also have a concealed carry license and I'm ALWAYS packing. This would never happen in Colorado... This is a state with a very liberal concealed carry policy so if you pull in a public place you're ass is going to get shot. A lot.
Posted by: Tangonine at November 05, 2009 06:58 PM (C8Pcc) 509
President Bush just released a short, respectful statement. No shoutouts or anything.
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 06:58 PM (dwwPD) 510
So should be be rounding up the liberal arts degree holders who didn't have coursework in how to divide by square roots, or rounding up the Muslims?
Best be safe and do both.
Posted by: LFMayor at November 05, 2009 07:00 PM (Ge7CK) 511
493, you touch on what makes my hate the jihadists the most. They use our fundamental freedoms against us.
Posted by: Scott J. at November 05, 2009 07:00 PM (NY7mQ) 512
update for you all, i just got off the phone with my sister who talked to a guy in her husband's unit he was shot in the upper back and is in surgery now but he's in stable and they said its not life threatning so he's good and my sister's on her way to o'hare to fly down there she said there's alot of rumors flying around but i don't want to spread any of them here that being said, at my last command, a small base out of italy, we used to practice this scenerio with one or two bad guys and honestly, its hard to defend a base when it happens. for the number of causalties, i commend not only the mp's there but all of the soldiers who stood against these fucking animals. Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2009 07:00 PM (tdGl3) 513
The local Central TX news channels showed a picture of Hasan. He looks Mediterranean, large boned facial structure, jet black hair.
Hasan was just recently stationed at Ft. Hood. Too weird; he's a set-up for assassinating his fellow soldiers AS A MAJOR IN THE US ARMY. Hutchison is quoted as having been told that Hasan didn't want to be deployed. I wouldn't put it past Obama's owners to have set this all up as the worst tragedy of its sort in order to give Obama MORE TIME to think about pulling out while our troops are in harms way waiting. Prayers are with the victims and families. Posted by: maverick muse at November 05, 2009 07:01 PM (F1b/5) 514
muse, c'mon let's not get all truther-y about this, I doubt that's the case.
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 07:03 PM (dwwPD) 515
prayers to her family navy.
Posted by: Dale in San Antonio (Not Dave!) at November 05, 2009 07:03 PM (sXEVG) 516
Ok, so, before I go back to playing Dragon Age, I'll leave you with the summary for today:
Muslims are fucking bad. Military Muslims are WAY fucking bad and should be investigated daily. Fuck freedom of religion: if your religion is responsible for every war currently ongoing on the Earth, you fucking lose and don't get a voice. Fuck off. Everyone should be packing a personal firearm Charles Johnson is a hippie douchebag tool Night all! Posted by: Tangonine at November 05, 2009 07:05 PM (C8Pcc) 517
V-Tech grad
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 07:05 PM (dwwPD) 518
Damn, navycop. Glad your BIL is OK. Does he have magazines he likes to read? We should send him several to get him through the boring recovery time. Posted by: Scott J. at November 05, 2009 07:05 PM (NY7mQ) 519
Congrats to Victoria - she pegged it. Guy had a "poor performance" evaluation
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at November 05, 2009 07:05 PM (2pjaO) 520
what religion was he before he converted ? Damn I hope he wasn't a buddhist. probably a christian that is my bet.
Posted by: John ryan at November 05, 2009 06:54 PM (m0Q2u) Jeffrey Dahmer was gay when he murdered and mutilated all those people. I wonder what sexual preference he was before he converted ? Heterosexual is my bet. Mao and Pol Pot were liberals socialists when they caused the deaths of millions of innocent people. I wonder what ideology they followed before they converted ? Conservatism is my bet. See what I did there douchnozzle ? Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 07:05 PM (+FzLa) 521
navycopjoe ~ hope he recovers completely and quickly.
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at November 05, 2009 07:07 PM (KWhJd) 522
Interesting article from my local paper of all places. The Arabic shouting was probably a coincidence... Posted by: Countrysquire at November 05, 2009 07:08 PM (ZIl4N) 523
How can he be a convert, since he's evidently a Syrian educated in Damascus?
Posted by: Angus Dei at November 05, 2009 07:08 PM (WAI6U) 524
Prayers NCJ!
Posted by: Freida Lay at November 05, 2009 07:08 PM (ax4Qo) 525
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2009 07:00 PM (tdGl3)
Prayers for your sister and BIL, Joe! Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 07:09 PM (VuLos) 526
Prayers for a speedy and sure recovery to your BIL Navycopy.
Posted by: unknown jane at November 05, 2009 07:09 PM (5/yRG) 527
Absolutely no Muhammadan can ever be fully trusted.
Ever. I don't care if a Muhammadan has been a model human being his entire life. Due to the nature of the Muhammadan cult, they can go rabid at any time without warning if they decide to actually follow the dictates of the cult. All Muhammadans are security risks and they should be prohibited from civilian and non-civilian positions where security risks are excluded. Any converts to Muhammadanism should instantly lose their clearance and correspondingly their position if it is security relevant. In a PC indoctrinated culture these things being said will likely make you uncomfortable. But they are truisms. Posted by: SamIam at November 05, 2009 07:09 PM (KEiDW) 528
nah, he's got his laptop and he's a gamer so we'll kill him over and over online he just got back from his last deployment too, it sucks to go from a war area to get hit on a fucking mainland base. Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2009 07:10 PM (tdGl3) 529
Shit, this asshole has never even deployed and the cocksucks in the SRM are claiming PTSD? Yeah, Syrian. Fucking figures. Round 'em up, like we should have done in 2001. Posted by: Dang Straights at November 05, 2009 07:11 PM (ghfZz) Posted by: Rocks at November 05, 2009 07:11 PM (MTcoh) 531
"“They were telling him that one guy was shouting something in Arabic while he was shooting,” Tom Hunt said. “He couldn’t say much more than that.”"
From 522's link. And really, what more needs to be said? Posted by: Angus Dei at November 05, 2009 07:11 PM (WAI6U) 532
Great news navy, glad to hear all is good and well with the fam. I was hoping to hear something before the night was over. Now go get your sis a stiff drink, she deserves it. Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 07:12 PM (+FzLa) 533
Come to think on the unponderable - This shrink has had access to alot of military personal and it sounds like he was actively recruitng converts using his MD privilage - EVERY ONE of the military that has been counseled by him has to be reviewed- There are more out there than just him.
Posted by: Sarge at November 05, 2009 07:13 PM (i1jMO) Posted by: elclynn at November 05, 2009 07:15 PM (rWO3f) 535
Listening to a bunch of Army pussies blaming the President is sickening, why don't you guys grow up and become warriors. You dumb ass pussies. Typical under-educated big brave guys.
Posted by: Cooper at November 05, 2009 07:16 PM (ozcfb) 536
“They were telling him that one guy was shouting something in Arabic
while he was shooting,” Tom Hunt said. “He couldn’t say much more than
that.”"
From 522's link. Allahu Ahkbar! (God is Great) The Jihadi battlecry.. Posted by: sandbagger at November 05, 2009 07:16 PM (aHq/7) 537
navycopjoe--prayers for your sister and her family. And let us know if there's anything we-all can do for them.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 05, 2009 07:16 PM (OkT2m) 538
oh, he's also an aos lurker so i'll see if i can talk him into delurking when he's feeling up to it yep, he's a moron Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2009 07:17 PM (tdGl3) 539
I saw on another site that someone had his Facebook link. Lots of telling information on there...hopefully, the FBI will be able to get lots of details on this guy's background. Sorry, but his friends don't look like nice people (IMO).
Posted by: MLM411 at November 05, 2009 07:17 PM (rXYS+) 540
Fox has a Col Terry Lee on who knew this piece of shit and is saying this guy was making comments like ..Muslims need to stand up to their aggressors and other Islamist type crap
Posted by: Death to Islamist scum at November 05, 2009 07:17 PM (vez2r) 541
528, OK then. Still pass along my thanks to him for his service (and take some for yourself too).
Posted by: Scott J. at November 05, 2009 07:17 PM (NY7mQ) 542
Well, at least there will not be a trial for the SoB.
Posted by: Gmac at November 05, 2009 07:17 PM (fesTG) 543
535, WTF?
Posted by: Scott J. at November 05, 2009 07:19 PM (NY7mQ) 544
while I agree with the sentiment, SamIam's first language does not appear to be English.
joe, speedy recovery to your BIL. Maybe when he gets better Barry fiddycent O can talk to him about the time he caught a slug in the hood. Posted by: moron # 1543132 at November 05, 2009 07:19 PM (p1s9n) 545
Two other suspects have not been released, are being held for questioning according to Fox News.
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 07:20 PM (dwwPD) 546
Fox has a Col Terry Lee on who knew this piece of
shit and is saying this guy was making comments like ..Muslims need to
stand up to their aggressors and other Islamist type crap
Posted by: Death to Islamist scum at November 05, 2009 07:17 PM (vez2r) What Col. Lee said was pretty damning. Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 05, 2009 07:22 PM (3dN+b) 547
Can Fox Get that BUTT PIRATE Smith of the Fuckin Air PLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE !!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Barack Hussein Osama Obama at November 05, 2009 07:22 PM (DMV9j) 548
cousin of Hasan on foxnews right now.
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 07:22 PM (dwwPD) Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 05, 2009 07:23 PM (r8/Km) 550
Here is ahttp://tinyurl.com/7kfoe picture of this fuckwad.
Posted by: butters at November 05, 2009 07:24 PM (VbI7s) 551
I can't watch FOX anymore. Not with Shemp Smith on there. What a creepy, intolerable douchenozzle.
Posted by: Angus Dei at November 05, 2009 07:24 PM (WAI6U) 552
So I'm assuming "cooper" is another douchetool lurker fuckbunny?
Posted by: Tangonine at November 05, 2009 07:24 PM (C8Pcc) 553
cousin says he's always been a muslim, not a convert
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 07:24 PM (dwwPD) 554
Listening to a bunch of Army pussies blaming the
President is sickening, why don't you guys grow up and become
warriors. You dumb ass pussies. Typical under-educated big brave guys.
Posted by: Cooper at November 05, 2009 07:16 PM (ozcfb) Watching some douchebag libtard beclown himself and act like some internet tuff-fuck while denigrating the fruit of our country is laughable considering you guys wouldn't wipe your ass unless Obama instructed you to and Keith Olbermann told you how many times to flush. Shinebox bitch, it ain't gonna go get itself. Posted by: Blazer at November 05, 2009 07:25 PM (+FzLa) 555
Can Fox get that BUTT PIRATE Smith off the FUCKIN Air PLEEEEEEEEEEEASE !!!
Posted by: Barack Hussein Osama Obama at November 05, 2009 07:25 PM (DMV9j) 556
Cooper, he's being blamed for being a douchbag. Not for murder, you ignorant vulgarian.
Posted by: Drink Dos Equis On Principle at November 05, 2009 07:25 PM (mkihu) 557
Cousin on phone w/ Shep on Fox. Shep asked the cousin when he had converted to Islam. The cousin just said..."Um...he's always been Islamic."
Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 07:25 PM (VuLos) 558
I'm gonna puke if his cousin says that he was a good American one more time.
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at November 05, 2009 07:27 PM (KWhJd) 559
What the Hell... another Virginia Tech shooter?
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at November 05, 2009 07:27 PM (WjpSC) Posted by: Tangonine at November 05, 2009 07:27 PM (C8Pcc) 561
What the Hell... another Virginia Tech shooter?
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at November 05, 2009 07:27 PM (WjpSC) I had that exact thought. Weird. Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 07:28 PM (VuLos) 562
Michael Savage talking to someone who went onto the guys facebook page before it was taken down.
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 07:29 PM (p302b) 563
That cousin is pissing me off. Your cousin is not a good American. Your cousin is a traitor to his country who murdered people. You may love him, but that doesn't mean you should start spinning that he's a good American. He's a fucker that will burn in hell.
Posted by: Brenden at November 05, 2009 07:29 PM (54lqZ) 564
See? Not a convert, a life-long loser. Not black or white, Arab.
BTW: Nice to know our soldiers are getting the very best of mental health care. Posted by: Angus Dei at November 05, 2009 07:29 PM (WAI6U) 565
okay, now apparently they have been released? what is going on? have they or haven't they?
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 07:29 PM (dwwPD) 566
Poor dear was being harrassed because of his faith, that's why he went all crazy and shot up the place. He was just a peace loving guy, wouldn't hurt a flea. Started to ask cousin about his background...oopsie, gots to go.
So there you have it. It was the bad military's fault because they harrassed the poor dear. MSM meme. Posted by: SJR2 at November 05, 2009 07:29 PM (oCbCP) 567
OMFG, did anyone catch the cousin's interview on Fox with Shep? What I
caught was disgusting... making excuses for this creep's actions
because he was picked on and because of what he heard from returning
soldiers?
Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 07:30 PM (sey23) 568
Since the libs and their buddies in the media have tried so hard to pretend Islam is not a problem, that Bush was a war criminal for going after " innocent " Muslins around the world and that Club Gitmo was a place where we held innocent dark skined men because the military is racist. They have to spin like crazy when there is yet another Islamic attack on Americans in order to hide the fact that their push for liberalism has made it easier to attack us.
Posted by: Magic KIngdom at November 05, 2009 07:30 PM (amSe4) 569
well...the media should be quite happy about this...they love bad news and carnage...sex, violence, murder and mayham...and now they won't have to talk about all those protesters in DC standing up to pelosi's healthcare coup.
Posted by: annak at November 05, 2009 07:30 PM (9JW6K) 570
Cousin of dead terrorist blaming name-calling for his cousin's murder rampage. A shrink who can't handle insults without murdering and wounding dozens of people? No wonder he got a poor performance review.
Posted by: Miss Fluffy McNutter at November 05, 2009 07:30 PM (xMSXs) 571
He was a grad of Virginia Tech....so sad for that school to be associated with another mass murderer.
Posted by: Dave in Nebraska at November 05, 2009 07:31 PM (2I9tj) 572
WHY DID HE JOIN UP?
Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 07:31 PM (sey23) 573
While I was watching and listening to President Obama's press conference at 5:00 today, disgusted once again to realize that he consistently speaks in platitudes without saying anything of substance, I got to thinking that that guy is such an empty suit that if John McCain wasn't such a phony and such a sleazy opportunist and such an utter and complete jackass, I would be incredulous that Obama ever got to be POTUS. That could be the good news or the bad news, depending on your perspective. Depending on your perspective, the good news or the bad news could be, also, that I am inclined to suspect that Obama's presidency will be such an utter and complete dissaster that even if the Democrats themselves don't tar and feather Obama and carry him out of Washington on a rail, his presidency will ensure that this country won't have another black President for another 250 years. BTW, I saw that Wolfy reported Major Hasan's identitity on CNN nearly an hour before that jerk, Shep, was willing to release it on Fox. Posted by: Atrollpasinthru at November 05, 2009 07:31 PM (Cta0m) 574
He had been transferred from Walter Reid and was due to be shipped-out. Sounds like his superior officers weren't very happy with him. Posted by: The Most Interesting Hirsute Man In the World at November 05, 2009 07:32 PM (mkihu) 575
Hasan's cousin interviewed on Fox News said he was not a recent convert but has always been a Muslim and sort of perfectly normal from what was said on air.He just did not want to go to Afghanistan.
Posted by: mbabbitt at November 05, 2009 07:32 PM (TrBlW) 576
Hutchinson just said she was told that the guy was targeting people that he knew.
Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 07:32 PM (VuLos) 577
fact that the one named gunman is a recent MUSLIM convert.
Yes, good news for republican "maximalists"! And the victims were servicemen, which is an extra tasty plottwist. Problem: doesn't appear to be a "fact." Posted by: James O. Huberty at November 05, 2009 07:33 PM (NLCRo) 578
WHY DID HE JOIN UP? So he could be in a position to kill our troops, maybe? Just throwing out ideas, here. Posted by: Dang Straights at November 05, 2009 07:33 PM (ghfZz) 579
And you know what is also fucking outrageous? That our returning GI's, coming back from serving in the Middle East, apparently had to interact with this nut.
My dad served in the army as a medical corpsman (I think that's what it was called) and his primary duty was to work with the guys who came back from Korea traumatized psychologically. I know it was heart-wrenching work, but not something that should lead you to want to kill your fellow soldiers. Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 07:34 PM (sey23) Posted by: The Most Interesting Hirsute Man In the World (rdb) at November 05, 2009 07:34 PM (mkihu) 581
According to this site:
http://www.vitals.com/doctor/profile/1811199052 if you click on the ratings, the one reviewer says he had a strong difficult to understand accent. It also says he graduated in 1990 in Damascus, so I am wondering if he really is a convert. Posted by: Roy at November 05, 2009 07:34 PM (EuD1c) 582
Problem: doesn't appear to be a "fact."
Posted by: James O. Huberty at November 05, 2009 07:33 PM (NLCRo) That was just disclosed in the past 10 minutes. Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 07:34 PM (VuLos) 583
what religion was he before he converted ? Damn I hope he wasn't a buddhist. probably a christian that is my bet.
Posted by: John ryan at November 05, 2009 06:54 PM (m0Q2u) Johnny, find the nearest wood chipper and stick your empty head in it. Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 05, 2009 07:35 PM (3dN+b) 584
572, I think he joined pre-afghan/iraqi war.
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 07:35 PM (dwwPD) 585
Watching Shep (and managed to keep the vomit down in my lower throat) talking to his cousin, who says that Hasan has been muslim all his life, not a recent convert.
Posted by: Oedipus at November 05, 2009 07:36 PM (KIzJt) 586
Yep, Dang, that's certainly a good theory.
Alternate theory is that his med school was paid by the army. Does anyone know? Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 07:36 PM (sey23) 587
i just bought a new samsung 40in led tv and right now it is going through cable scan do i really want to see the news? Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2009 07:36 PM (tdGl3) 588
We will find out obviously if he is a jihadi, but why is it important that he is a muslim? There are like a billion muslims, most of which do no harm. What is the obsession with broadcasting that fact? When anti-abortion foes in this country strike, are they labelled as "Christian converts". Why demand a double standard?
I think I know the answer..... Posted by: mars at November 05, 2009 07:36 PM (797sZ) 589
Cousin of dead terrorist also saying that he, the terrorist was a good American. Do you think that Shep could have reminded cus just how many people died today? Posted by: Naan at November 05, 2009 07:36 PM (YR3gL) 590
Cousin said he went to school at VA Tech...wth? Who is this guy, cause someone isn't being straight here. Are Bambi's press czars controlling the meme?
Posted by: SJR2 at November 05, 2009 07:37 PM (oCbCP) 591
It does not take long for an MD to become a major. If they have experience, they often come in as majors.
We military nurses have been complaining about these self-absorbed, ignorant, incompetent foreign doctors for decades. The middle eastern guys were always the worse. Posted by: Jack at November 05, 2009 07:37 PM (UKELC) 592
We will find out obviously if he is a jihadi, Bullshit. The administration and the SRM will absolutely refuse to admit this is islamic terrorism. Ever. Posted by: Dang Straights at November 05, 2009 07:38 PM (ghfZz) Posted by: WTFCI at November 05, 2009 07:39 PM (GtYrq) 594
@572: "WHY DID HE JOIN UP?" Um, if you are devoted practitioner of the Religion of Peace and wanted to off some infidel soldiers who had been defiling the sacred Ummah, joining the US Army would put you in a target rich environment. To paraphrase Willie Sutton - "That's where the soldiers are." Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at November 05, 2009 07:40 PM (vupGF) 595
at this time, i could give a rats ass what his fucking religion is or where the fuck he was from he was a soldier who attacked his brothers, he needs to die all i care about is how much agony he'll be in before the needle slips into his veins as he's executed Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2009 07:40 PM (tdGl3) 596
BTW, I loved the farcking cousin using the fact that this guy was educated (implication: unlike you numbnuts) and didn't even like to go to target practice (implication: unlike you bitter clingers) as evidence of how unbelievable it was that he would do this.
Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 07:40 PM (sey23) 597
all i care about is how much agony he'll be in before the needle slips into his veins as he's executed
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2009 07:40 PM (tdGl3) Um...that'll be tricky since he died in the shootout. Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 07:41 PM (VuLos) 598
597, you'd be surprised at how much zombification technology has improved in the past few years.
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 07:42 PM (dwwPD) 599
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet...
He could be a Major, but as a psychiatrist he's probably the medical sort of Major that isn't *really* a Major at all and is outside of normal chain-of-command, despite the uniform, rank and pay. It's just that you can't sign up someone with an advanced degree, send him or her to officer training and then pay them like they're an O-1 with a bachelor's degree. Sometimes these guys even keep a military regulation hair cut and learn to salute. (And trust me... when it's your doctor or RN, you don't care.) I could be wrong... maybe he was just a regular old infantry officer who happened to have a medical degree. (If it's "psychiatrist" rather than "psychologist".) I find it hard to believe he couldn't get out of a deployment if he tried either, or managed to swing some alternate assignment if he tried. Of course it might have been... we paid for your school... you pay us back if you don't go. Posted by: Synova at November 05, 2009 07:42 PM (NTu5Z) Posted by: Zombie Maj Malik Nadal Hasan at November 05, 2009 07:43 PM (sey23) Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2009 07:43 PM (tdGl3) Posted by: moron # 123452343 at November 05, 2009 07:43 PM (p1s9n) 603
BTW, I loved the farcking cousin using the fact that
this guy was educated (implication: unlike you numbnuts) and didn't
even like to go to target practice (implication: unlike you bitter
clingers) as evidence of how unbelievable it was that he would do
this.
Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 07:40 PM (sey23) But yet he walked into a base surrounded by trained military personnel with 2 handguns and killed 12 people and injured 30. This guy was able to reload both handguns once at least and soldier just stood there and took it? BULLSHIT He was a fuckin psych. He probably couldn't hit the side of a friggin barn. Posted by: Rocks at November 05, 2009 07:44 PM (MTcoh) 604
you'd be surprised at how much zombification technology has improved in the past few years.
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 07:42 PM (dwwPD) Oh good...then kill the bastard again. Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 07:44 PM (VuLos) Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2009 07:44 PM (tdGl3) 606
It's exciting, isn't it knuckleheads, that "they" rushed to apprehend "suspects" (later released)?
Isn't it interesting that you want this to be a coordinated terrorist attack? You were excited and pleased by the news! Oh, please let it be a terrorist attack, you thought in that collective hive-minded way that you all think. The bigger the better! Posted by: James O. Huberty at November 05, 2009 07:45 PM (NLCRo) 607
i meant the other two
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2009 07:43 PM (tdGl3) Other two have been released. Not involved....believed to be trying to stop him and somehow got pulled in in all the confusion. At least, that's the lastest news story. Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 07:45 PM (VuLos) 608
They released the 2 suspects and are looking for a third? I don't even know what to make of that.
Did the military police have them or the civilian police? If military, they likely hauled people in just to be safe, talked to them and let them go. Civilian police would need evidence. Posted by: Synova at November 05, 2009 07:46 PM (NTu5Z) Posted by: Rocks at November 05, 2009 07:47 PM (MTcoh) 610
Posted by: James O. Huberty at November 05, 2009 07:45 PM (NLCRo)
Oh, swell, erg's back. Now the whole website will reek of Vaseline and mail-order used panties. Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 05, 2009 07:47 PM (aC0uO) 611
another suspect picked up according to FN.
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 07:47 PM (dwwPD) 612
Congressman Carter said another suspect is in custody. He's still trying to sort it out.
Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 07:48 PM (VuLos) 613
Congressman Carter just said they have caught another suspect.
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 05, 2009 07:48 PM (ZIl4N) 614
The shooter's cousin, Nader Hasan, told Fox News that their family is in shock. "We are trying to make sense of all this," Nader Hasan said. "He wasn't even someone who enjoyed going to the firing range." He said his cousin, who was born and raised in Virginia and graduated from Virginia Tech University, became against the wars after hearing the stories of those who came back from Afghanistan and Iraq. Nader Hasan said his cousin, who was raised a Muslim, wanted to go into the military against his parent's wishes and was taunted by others after the terror attacks of Sept. 11. Ohh Johnny Ryan you numbnuts jack off looks like he didn't convert from anything.Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 05, 2009 07:48 PM (3dN+b) 615
Posted by: James O. Huberty at November 05, 2009 07:45 PM
The base was on lockdown because there was another suspect.... who they apparently just picked up, according to Fox News. So fuck you. Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 07:49 PM (sey23) 616
released!!! fucking released!!!! ugggghg Oh, yes. My oh my. If only it were a terrorist attack! Maximalist knucklehead wetdream.Posted by: James O. Huberty at November 05, 2009 07:49 PM (NLCRo) 617
If this piece of shit was making islamic-type noises about how the brave taliban were being oppressed, he needed to fall down the stairs a couple of times. He never should have been in a position to do anything like this. Posted by: Dang Straights at November 05, 2009 07:49 PM (ghfZz) 618
When anti-abortion foes in this country strike, are they labelled as "Christian converts". Why demand a double standard?
Moron. (And not the good kind.) When "anti-abortion foes strike" it is ALL ABOUT crazy Christians. What planet are you from? Posted by: Synova at November 05, 2009 07:50 PM (NTu5Z) 619
He
said his cousin, who was born and raised in Virginia and graduated from
Virginia Tech University, became against the wars after hearing the
stories of those who came back from Afghanistan and Iraq.
Someone's spinning. His personnel records say University of Damascus, Syria. I'd say cuz could be a plant. Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 05, 2009 07:50 PM (aC0uO) 620
collective hive-minded
Stop insulting Islam. They can't help it if they're centuries behind the rest of the world. Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 07:50 PM (sey23) Posted by: James O. Huberty at November 05, 2009 07:51 PM (NLCRo) 622
see what i mean by there are rumors flying all around? hell, i'm watching the history channel (btw, hd on 1040p on a led is more awesome than alexthechick's stompy boots) let the pros do their job and we'll go from there Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2009 07:51 PM (tdGl3) 623
Looks like somebody didnt have their Metamucil today.
I had Metamucil. Twice. I just wonder why your grandparents named her that. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 07:51 PM (5Xf3c) 624
latest reports say he is a lifelong Muslim
and, for what's it worth, he had a performance review and went to .. well, it's pretty easy to guess Posted by: Gerry at November 05, 2009 07:52 PM (iiwJV) Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 07:52 PM (dwwPD) 626
Obama high fived while soldiers died.
Posted by: Mrs compton at November 05, 2009 07:52 PM (LP+u+) 627
When this erg asshole gets his head blown off because he was standing too close to a muslim who picks that particular time to go off... I'm going to die laughing.
Posted by: rickinstl at November 05, 2009 07:52 PM (SawXY) 628
I think it's one thing to troll at a website, it's quite another to troll in the aftermath of a tragedy.
Sad, just sad... Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 07:53 PM (dwwPD) 629
621
according to Fox News.
Hehe. Oh boy Well, first, Jackoff, it's Shep Smith. And second, prick, he was interviewing the congressman from the district. Besides, don't you know Obama his the reset button again? Rahm was interviewed on Fox for 11 minutes today. Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 07:54 PM (sey23) 630
Did anybody catch the end of the cousin interview when Shep asked about the family background and the guy said "Sorry, I got to go", really quick. HMMM
PS - get well soon BIL of NavycopJoe, fellow moron. Posted by: Go MP at November 05, 2009 07:55 PM (DIYmd) 631
I think it's one thing to troll at a website, it's quite another to troll in the aftermath of a tragedy.
Erg's shameless, worthless, clueless, hopeless, and a whole lot of words with the suffix -less. And he seems to have loaded one of those anonymizer programs which I hear are popular with the kiddie-porn crowd. It's a coincidence! Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 05, 2009 07:56 PM (aC0uO) 632
616 sorry dude, you won't goad me that easily, EPIC FAIL but oth, you know why my b-i-l is okay? 2 reasons, ready? 1. Training: our Army is the best trained fighting force in the world. Between his physical fitness and military training he is alive and will be ready to kick some MORE ass really soon. 2. God: His faith and fear of God is mighty and will always carry him above pieces of shit like that fucking animal Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2009 07:57 PM (tdGl3) 633
"Posted by: James O. Huberty at November 05, 2009 07:49 PM (NLCRo)"
And yet, it is you that trolls. Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at November 05, 2009 07:57 PM (2pjaO) 634
6 years duty as a Psychiatrist for the Army... as someone said, MD's tend to start as Majors... and he's a Major... even if he started in ROTC and then as an O-1?
I doubt it was his first iffy performance report. Posted by: Synova at November 05, 2009 07:57 PM (NTu5Z) 635
He was 39 years old.
He is a graduate of Virginia Tech University, where he was a member of the ROTC and earned a bachelor's degree in biochemistry in 1997. So, murderous tardboy took 5 more years to get his bachelor's than my drunken ass did? And ended up a Major?He's as old as that old fucker, Blazer. Or, uh, he would be, if, ya know, he wasn't in a fridge, and shit. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 07:58 PM (5Xf3c) 636
What we have here is an erupting volcano of knucklehead semen. It's like fucking Jean Kirkpatrick and Ayn Rand on a pile of HUAC testimony transcripts.
A frisson? Or a terrorist attack you can use in the next election cycle? Sadly, probably not enough dead soldiers. Posted by: James O. Huberty at November 05, 2009 07:59 PM (NLCRo) 637
@630
It is bizarre to me that anyone from the family would speak at this time. It's sick that they would make excuses for the guy. My interpretation is that they have an agenda -- he was so intent on spinning how his murdering scumbag cousin was not a typical military guy (too smart, too non-violent), but his main goal was to blame the U.S. for his cousin's actions. I'd bet my non-existent paycheck that there's an imam somewhere pulling the strings. Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 07:59 PM (sey23) 638
#628 I was going to say something along those same lines. It's important to remember that most trolls on the hunt for a fight have long since left the world of the rational behind. They are in their own little world tipping at windmills. The best response is not to make one. Pray for those left behind with that new empty hole in their lives. Posted by: Ding at November 05, 2009 07:59 PM (Xomyd) 639
"606 It's exciting, isn't it knuckleheads, that "they" rushed to apprehend "suspects" (later released)?"
Hey, James Pre-Puberty. Go fuck yourself. It was a terrorist attack. Just a lone Jihadi suffering from Sudden Jihad Syndrome. Happens all the time now. Like "honor killings." How hard is that to get through your granite skull to your BB brain? Figure it the fuck. I don't care if you figure it the fuck out, or figure it the fuck in, but it is exactly the fuck that you need to figure, you stupid twat. Posted by: Angus Dei at November 05, 2009 07:59 PM (WAI6U) 640
latest reports say he is a lifelong Muslim
So, as of about 1:45 PM central time, he's no longer a mooselimb. Glad that's settled. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 07:59 PM (5Xf3c) 641
When this erg asshole gets his head blown off because he was standing too close to a muslim who picks that particular time to go off... I'm going to die laughing. of course if by die laughing you mean being blown up by a muzzie, then yes, you will die laughing Posted by: Ben at November 05, 2009 08:00 PM (bftbi) Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2009 08:00 PM (tdGl3) 643
Ben, I think you need to read that post again.
Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 08:01 PM (VuLos) 644
@630 i was thinking it sounded odd too. the guy seemed all to happy to be on the phone, maybe he was in show. Or maybe it was prank, he mihgt have not been related to the guy. He seemed to get uncomfortable when shep kept asking him about islam Posted by: Ben at November 05, 2009 08:01 PM (bftbi) 645
All this conflicting data. Remember the old rule of thumb, ignore the first 48 hours of intel.
Posted by: Crusty at November 05, 2009 08:04 PM (qzgbP) Posted by: Go MP at November 05, 2009 08:05 PM (DIYmd) 647
Cousin called Fox news and said he was not a convert and believed we should not be in that part of the world -- felt it was okay for Muslims to stop it.
Posted by: LifeTrek at November 05, 2009 08:05 PM (tJTIW) 648
army presser in 15 minutes
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 08:06 PM (dwwPD) 649
A true piece of SHIT ! Posted by: donald l cooper jr at November 05, 2009 08:06 PM (cIeJb) Posted by: 7HEAVENS at November 05, 2009 08:07 PM (ehjq2) 651
THANK GOD THE MONSTER IS DEAD ,NO VIRGINS WHERE HE IS GOING!
Posted by: donald l cooper jr at November 05, 2009 08:08 PM (cIeJb) 652
Looks like we got some cleaning up to do over at the mosque where MMNH was converted and brain washed.
Posted by: sTevo at November 05, 2009 08:09 PM (eA3tl) 653
FUCK ALLAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: donald l cooper jr at November 05, 2009 08:09 PM (cIeJb) 654
OH,AND YOU!
Posted by: donald l cooper jr at November 05, 2009 08:11 PM (cIeJb) 655
Isn't it just wonderful that in a time of grief for 12 families of soldiers murdered by a Sudden Jihadi, the rabid lefties are conserned mostly about "islamophobia" in comments?
Posted by: Juicer at November 05, 2009 08:11 PM (dsKLW) Posted by: Knucklehead mantra at November 05, 2009 08:11 PM (NLCRo) 657
NO NAME COWARD!
Posted by: donald l cooper jr at November 05, 2009 08:11 PM (cIeJb) 658
I'm calling it before it happens:
At some point in the next week, you'll read on a major blog or news outlet about how this fuckstick was so distraught at becoming a cog in Boooosh's flying killbot extravaganza machine that he's suffering Pre-Traumatic Stress Disorder Posted by: Thom at November 05, 2009 08:11 PM (lP+EN) 659
And...pleeeeaze.......more victims!
Posted by: Knucklehead mantra at November 05, 2009 08:12 PM (NLCRo) 660
@606: James O. Huberty at November 05, 2009 07:45 PM (NLCRo) Such a clever name - the San Ysidro McDonald's gunman. I liked you better when you were dead. Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at November 05, 2009 08:13 PM (vupGF) Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 05, 2009 08:14 PM (Qt4Y7) 662
The guy's brother says he has always been a muslim.
Posted by: TimothyJ at November 05, 2009 08:16 PM (IKKIf) 663
poopy!
Posted by: John ryan at November 05, 2009 08:17 PM (m0Q2u) 664
64 Can someone explain what "fragging" is? I saw that term while ago and was wondering what it means....
Posted by: kemp at November 05, 2009 08:17 PM (2+9Yx) 665
Dear James O Fuckrag:
If it's one guy who's a muslum fucking shitbag extremist, it's a terrorist attack. So fuck off. You think he got to be a muslim fucking shitbag extremist on his own? nono, nitwit. He got that way from listening to/reading propoganda of OTHER musluim fucking shitbag extremists. Are you that fucking stupid? It's a rhetorical quesiton, netterman, take a lap. Posted by: Tangonine at November 05, 2009 08:17 PM (C8Pcc) Posted by: OCBill at November 05, 2009 08:19 PM (p28Ei) 667
So the guy was a shrink at Reed. Can you imagine being one of his past patients upon hearing this? What kind of BS did this twisted fuck dole out over the last six years?
You want to get out of the military before your end of service? It’s not impossible. Dumbass was just a chickenshit coward. Posted by: Ding at November 05, 2009 08:19 PM (Xomyd) 668
IF IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT,SMELLS LIKE SHIT,TASTES LIKE SHIT,IT MUST BE SHIT!WHEN WILL AMERICA WAKE UP AND REALIZE MUSLIMS ARE MOSTLY SHIT! Posted by: donald l cooper jr at November 05, 2009 08:20 PM (cIeJb) Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 08:20 PM (sey23) 670
64 Can someone explain what "fragging" is? I saw that term while ago and was wondering what it means.... 600 posts later. Fragging comes from Vietnam, where elisted men were suppose to frag, aka throw hand grenades into their officers tents. Was never proven that this happened, but the anti war hippies always said it happened. See Hollywood movies. Posted by: kemp at November 05, 2009 08:20 PM (2+9Yx) 671
I don't watch Fox. They use too many big words I don't understand.
Posted by: James No Puberty at November 05, 2009 08:21 PM (KWhJd) Posted by: kemp at November 05, 2009 08:22 PM (2+9Yx) Posted by: Ding at November 05, 2009 08:22 PM (Xomyd) 674
Oh...please, please, please, muslim terrorist attack... Your writing reeks of eau de shitsome cloaca, since you invent the windmills you heroically tilt against. Posted by: The Most Interesting Hirsute Man In the World (rdb) at November 05, 2009 08:22 PM (mkihu) 675
Isn't it sweet how the trolls arrive to snark with the dead still warm in Texas?
Trolls are scum. Posted by: Techie at November 05, 2009 08:23 PM (cxW4X) 676
Maybe you should invest in a DICTIONARY?
Posted by: donald l cooper jr at November 05, 2009 08:23 PM (cIeJb) 677
I thought "fragged" described any case of lead poisoning.
Posted by: The Most Interesting Hirsute Man In the World (rdb) at November 05, 2009 08:24 PM (mkihu) 678
#673 You are absolutely right! get that "mostly shit" out of the quote. IF IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT,SMELLS LIKE SHIT,TASTES LIKE SHIT,IT MUST BE SHIT!WHEN WILL AMERICA WAKE UP AND REALIZE MUSLIMS ARE MOSTLY FULL OF SHIT! FIFY
Posted by: kemp at November 05, 2009 08:26 PM (2+9Yx) 679
677 I thought "fragged" described any case of lead poisoning. Only if you are shooting Ducks, then you need Steel shot. Posted by: kemp at November 05, 2009 08:28 PM (2+9Yx) 680
Did I miss the part where "Give us your Muslim crazies" on our Statue of Liberty?
BAN MUSLIMS FROM THE USA! Posted by: Melodic Metal at November 05, 2009 08:35 PM (9QC0z) Posted by: Ding at November 05, 2009 08:35 PM (Xomyd) 682
So if the military can have recently "converted" muslims enlisted under the equal opportunity policy....does that mean that we could have recently "converted" muslims holding the highest level of office? Like ones that don't want to supply their birth certificate to the public? These soldiers lives are a thousand times more valuable than the presidents worthless words.
Posted by: Tammi at November 05, 2009 08:36 PM (6NJUP) 683
"So the guy was a shrink at Reed. Can you imagine being one of his past
patients upon hearing this? What kind of BS did this twisted fuck dole
out over the last six years?"
I am more concerned of what crap he left in their files. I can only imagine the psychoanalysis he would leave of the poor soldier that , even after being shot up, still loves his country. I'm sure this douchebag wrote in his notes that the patriot was "incredibly insane." Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at November 05, 2009 08:40 PM (2pjaO) 684
SHIT! What the fuck was this piece of shit doing in the military? http://polijamblog.polijam.com/?p=10437 Posted by: Dang Straights at November 05, 2009 08:40 PM (ghfZz) 685
Guess what right wingers? He is an American! not a foreigner. It must gall you war lovers that an officer would do this. Now you are trying to drag out the old "terrorist conspiracy" theory to try to explain this whole thing.
Posted by: fred darling at November 05, 2009 08:41 PM (Vo7ex) Posted by: KG at November 05, 2009 08:42 PM (5VIde) 687
Fox is reporting that the perp's cousin says he felt "harassed".
"Yes, sir". It's all in the tone, bitches. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 08:44 PM (5Xf3c) 688
When the Founders insisted on religious liberty for all, they didn't consider the problem of a religion which simply cannot coexist with others peacefully. War or subjugation are the only possible ways Islam can relate to other faiths -- that's doctrine. Which means that religious freedom for Muslims means death or slavery for non-Muslims.
This is one case where the Constitution may have to be a "living document" and adapt to circumstances the Founders didn't anticipate. Freedom of religion should be denied to religions which are dangerous to others. Posted by: Trimegistus at November 05, 2009 08:44 PM (6yEzu) 689
The Trifecta of Terror, Muslim, immigrant, and psychiatrist.
Posted by: Federale at November 05, 2009 08:46 PM (ryQYO) 690
685 -- Fred, Darling, please come to my house and say that to my face you worthless mouthbreather.
Posted by: unknown jane at November 05, 2009 08:47 PM (5/yRG) 691
/jovial
I'd just like to give a shoutout to Fred Darling, winner of the congressional medal for complete idiocy in the face of tragedy. Posted by: President Obama at November 05, 2009 08:47 PM (dwwPD) 692
So what is wrong with this picture? He was an MD = He violated the oath " Do No Harm " He was afraid to go to Afghanistan ? = Coward His family stated he was a great American = Murdered his fellow soldiers He converted or said he was not Islamic = Liar He was an American officer = Traitor The media is afraid not to be PC = Controlled
Posted by: Sarge at November 05, 2009 08:47 PM (i1jMO) 693
Posted by: fred darling at November 05, 2009 08:41 PM (Vo7ex) And he said it all with his dick in a chicken! Let's give him a round of applause! Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 08:48 PM (5Xf3c) 694
687 -- I say maybe he should be obliged.
Posted by: unknown jane at November 05, 2009 08:48 PM (5/yRG) 695
Also, when I move to Texas once I get out of school, I'll never vote for Kay Bayley Hutchfuckinson.
Posted by: KG at November 05, 2009 08:51 PM (5VIde) 696
Now you are trying to drag out the old "terrorist conspiracy" theory to try to explain this whole thing.
I can't even imagine what point fred is trying to make here. Posted by: can't let go of old memes at November 05, 2009 08:51 PM (PD1tk) 697
Being an American changes nothing. He has still shown himself to be a radical follower of the religion of pieces. His being an American made him all the more dangerous. How many more infiltratrators are in the ranks of our military? Our soldiers shouldn't have to worry about being shot in the back by the same enemy they are fighting on the front lines. Bastards like this guy don't deserve constitutional protections, because they would just as soon burn the Constitution and install the Koran as the law of the land. Posted by: schneedoo at November 05, 2009 08:52 PM (KNCWm) 698
CNN & MSNBC report that someone else has been detained. Hasan was apparently of Jordanian ancestry.
Posted by: Gerry at November 05, 2009 08:54 PM (iiwJV) 699
and erg's still got nuthin'
Posted by: toby928 at November 05, 2009 08:54 PM (PD1tk) 700
I gave my paperboy AIDS.
Posted by: erg at November 05, 2009 08:54 PM (NLCRo) 701
According to Walid Shoebat - shooter is not a convert
Below is National Press Release Going out Tomorrow. Before we go on the attack in the Media let us all pray for the victims and their families in this terrible tragedy in Ft Hood.
Posted by: whuptdue at November 05, 2009 08:56 PM (gxT3Y) 702
701 -- what this guy is saying matches up to some of the things I have heard from other Muslims -- the dangers of religious fanaticism coming from unexpected areas of society is not something that should be overlooked; not wanting to sound alarmist, but when you have people who really have no pressing need to confide such things to you, no ascertainable agenda but are saying such things then I think it should be heeded.
Posted by: unknown jane at November 05, 2009 09:05 PM (5/yRG) 703
``Shit he's white. WTF? When did honkies start sticking their ass in the air for allah?''
Well, there was John Walker Lindh, for starters. Posted by: Annalucia at November 05, 2009 09:11 PM (rswdO) 704
holy shit, "the shooter is not dead"
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 09:15 PM (dwwPD) 705
The SHOOTER IS NOT DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Indian Outlaw at November 05, 2009 09:15 PM (8zsWd) 706
A look at my stream of conciousness:
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