Latest: MSNBC Says Captured Shooter Is Army Major With "Arabic Sounding Name". 12 Dead , 31 Wounded. 1 Shooter Dead, 2 In Custody...All US Soldiers
RT @chucktodd NBC's Pete Williams: US official says early reports are the man in custody is in the military, late 30s, with officer rank.NBC affiliate is now saying that there are new unconfirmed reports of shots being fired. Sen. Hutchison says a general at Hood is saying 30 wounded. New conference at Ft. Hood shortly and Gov. Perry at 5 est. All schedules subject to change. MSNBC is live streaming the local affiliate's coverage. 4:33 Per local NBC affiliate, more warning sirens going off and shots fired at a soldier's residence. 4:27 FNC says the FBI says terrorism is not a factor. Local newspaper reporter is saying the man under arrest is 40 years old.
Earlier reports:
3:42 eastern: Killen, TX official on FNC says 3 shooters. 1 in custody, 1 surrounded by police and a third at large. Repeats 7 dead, 12 wounded.
Just breaking.
All available EMS units in and around Killeen are being dispatched to Fort Hood where a "mass casualty event" has taken place. News Channel 25 has learned a shooting has left seven people dead and 12 injured. The Nolanville Fire Department tells News Channel 25 that they've been asked to bring all available EMS and Rescue personnel.2 gunmen, supposedly in uniform of some sort, 1 in custody. MSNBC is going off thinking it's mentally ill soldier but now they are saying 3 shooters. Another (3rd) shooter has started shooting. Sounds like an attack. Too soon to say for sure but shit. Just shit.
Comments
sigh
Posted by: The Most Hirsute Man In the World at November 05, 2009 03:27 PM (mkihu)
Posted by: Hotspur at November 05, 2009 03:27 PM (c158/)
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2009 03:29 PM (YLeFn)
Posted by: trailortrash at November 05, 2009 03:29 PM (2Z+7j)
Posted by: Dang Straights at November 05, 2009 03:29 PM (ghfZz)
At least 7 dead, 12 others injured per shep on fox...
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 03:29 PM (p302b)
Posted by: joncelli at November 05, 2009 03:31 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 03:31 PM (p302b)
Early reports, guys. I'd guess the other shooters were defending themselves.
Posted by: The Most Hirsute Man In the World at November 05, 2009 03:31 PM (mkihu)
Posted by: Truman North at November 05, 2009 03:32 PM (e8YaH)
Posted by: FireHorse at November 05, 2009 03:32 PM (Vl5GH)
Posted by: Editor at November 05, 2009 03:32 PM (pUfK9)
Posted by: moron # 3467351 at November 05, 2009 03:32 PM (p1s9n)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 05, 2009 03:33 PM (DPM1U)
Have they apprehended the youthful assailants of unknown ethnic background yet?
Shit, they better hope it's PTSD and not that.
Posted by: Dang Straights at November 05, 2009 03:33 PM (ghfZz)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 03:33 PM (p302b)
Posted by: The Most Hirsute Man In the World at November 05, 2009 03:33 PM (mkihu)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 03:34 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Brenden at November 05, 2009 03:34 PM (54lqZ)
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2009 03:34 PM (5ddCw)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 03:34 PM (eXZjc)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 03:35 PM (p302b)
17 YAUEBs, Truman? I don't think they're allowed in Texas.
If a militant muslim youth of unknown origin were to shave his beard and smile a lot, do you think a coyote would care whether his payment is in dollars or euros?
Posted by: Truman North at November 05, 2009 03:35 PM (e8YaH)
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2009 03:36 PM (NI090)
Someone was asking in another thread how someone could get off that many shots. They have nasty guns at Ft. Hood. And plenty of them.
One of my deer season days at my buddy's ranch was ruined by attack helecopters practicing miles and miles away. But. It made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside anyway.
Posted by: The Most Hirsute Man In the World at November 05, 2009 03:36 PM (mkihu)
Shep just implied that LEOs will torture the first shooter for info. What an ass.
It wouldn't bother me one bit if they did.
Multiculturalism making its way into the Army? Didn't a Muslim convert frag some fellow soldiers in Iraq a while back?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 05, 2009 03:36 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 03:36 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: Ginger at November 05, 2009 03:36 PM (HG70w)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 03:36 PM (p302b)
Posted by: DrewM. at November 05, 2009 03:37 PM (FCWQb)
Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 03:37 PM (sey23)
http://mfile.akamai.com/23079/live/reflector:33916.asx?bkup=35208
Posted by: scrubjay at November 05, 2009 03:37 PM (fKFPG)
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2009 03:37 PM (7K04W)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 03:37 PM (5aa4z)
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2009 03:39 PM (7K04W)
Posted by: stuiec at November 05, 2009 03:39 PM (rBLs5)
"Shep just implied that LEOs will torture the first shooter for info. What an ass."
In a sane world that's exactly what would happen, and absolutely nobody would give a shit.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 05, 2009 03:39 PM (sZOIi)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at November 05, 2009 03:39 PM (wgLRl)
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at November 05, 2009 03:39 PM (H7Rlw)
Didn't a Muslim convert frag some fellow soldiers in Iraq a while back?
Hasan Akbar (born Mark Kools in Watts, CA). Fred G Sanford wept.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 05, 2009 03:39 PM (DPM1U)
He killed a guy I knew in that attack.
Fucker.
Posted by: moron # 7524541 at November 05, 2009 03:40 PM (p1s9n)
Posted by: nightwitch at November 05, 2009 03:40 PM (YVMan)
Posted by: maddogg at November 05, 2009 03:40 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 03:40 PM (p302b)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at November 05, 2009 03:40 PM (wgLRl)
Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 03:41 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 03:41 PM (p302b)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 03:42 PM (eXZjc)
Posted by: maddogg at November 05, 2009 03:42 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Truman North at November 05, 2009 03:42 PM (e8YaH)
curmudgeon, that was Hasan Ackbar, currently on death row in Leavenworth.
He killed a guy I knew in that attack.
Fucker.
Can't the various "multicultural" professors be tried as accessories for this?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 05, 2009 03:42 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 03:42 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Vic at November 05, 2009 03:42 PM (CDUiN)
Posted by: San Fran Nan, Who Used to Be a Man at November 05, 2009 03:43 PM (5aa4z)
Posted by: Ben at November 05, 2009 03:43 PM (wuv1c)
Posted by: moron # 1324541 at November 05, 2009 03:43 PM (p1s9n)
Posted by: bill-tb at November 05, 2009 03:43 PM (iiiMw)
Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 03:44 PM (sey23)
The PX.
Where the spouses and children shop.
Posted by: stuiec at November 05, 2009 03:44 PM (rBLs5)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 03:44 PM (p302b)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 03:44 PM (eXZjc)
Well, yeah; for MSNBC anyone who would want to be a soldier has to be defective somehow. *spit*
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 05, 2009 03:44 PM (NtiET)
think Ill wait to comment. Not enough info...
i agree, but i have my suspicions, and I don't think it was soldiers.
This is more deadly than a month in Iraq for our troops.
I hope the military catches these guys before the police do.
Posted by: Ben at November 05, 2009 03:44 PM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 03:45 PM (5aa4z)
Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2009 03:45 PM (GhUHn)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 03:45 PM (eXZjc)
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at November 05, 2009 03:45 PM (VmtE9)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 05, 2009 03:45 PM (vKdhq)
Posted by: polynikes at November 05, 2009 03:45 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: kathysaysso at November 05, 2009 03:45 PM (ZtwUX)
Posted by: RobD at November 05, 2009 03:46 PM (sV3Dv)
Posted by: joncelli at November 05, 2009 03:46 PM (RD7QR)
The PX.
Where the spouses and children shop.
I'm going to take that as a confirmation that it's Islamists.
Posted by: Truman North at November 05, 2009 03:46 PM (e8YaH)
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 05, 2009 03:46 PM (lYKj1)
I hope the military catches these guys before the police do.
Posted by: Ben at November 05, 2009 03:44 PM
Yeah, but if they do the Precedent will be quick to say they acted stupidly.
Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 03:46 PM (sey23)
i agree, but i have my suspicions, and I don't think it was soldiers.
Nor do I. Unless they have Arabic names.
Posted by: maddogg at November 05, 2009 03:46 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 03:47 PM (5aa4z)
Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 03:47 PM (sey23)
"Neutralized" = "dead", correct?
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 05, 2009 03:47 PM (olNam)
How hard would it be to get uniforms and proper ID to get on base?
well they could get on other ways. Say pretend to be delivery men, laundry service, etc etc. I believe the military uses all sorts of subcontractors for stuff.
Posted by: Ben at November 05, 2009 03:47 PM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 03:48 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: RobD at November 05, 2009 03:48 PM (sV3Dv)
Look up, "Oxymoron" in the dictionary. LOL!
At least it happened in Texas and not California or New York. If the perp or perps live, he/they are basically guaranteed the needle. Shame it couldn't be a death of a thousand cuts, though.
Posted by: Angus Dei at November 05, 2009 03:48 PM (WAI6U)
Posted by: Y-not dips into the well at November 05, 2009 03:48 PM (sey23)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 03:48 PM (p302b)
This road is headed in a very specific destination.
There's going to be hell to pay if it's because of stupidity or laziness regarding these "suspects".
Posted by: jjshaka at November 05, 2009 03:48 PM (Pu33u)
Posted by: Ben at November 05, 2009 03:49 PM (wuv1c)
Having been shopping at the local Commissary today, with the kids, I think I'm going to go be sick.
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 05, 2009 03:49 PM (Be4xl)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 03:49 PM (eXZjc)
Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 03:49 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: maddogg at November 05, 2009 03:49 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 03:49 PM (p302b)
A lovely euphemism. Hopefully all three will eventually be "neutralized," whether by the MPs or by court martial or by criminal court.
Fuck. Fuck fuck fuck.
Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2009 03:49 PM (GhUHn)
Posted by: Z Ryan at November 05, 2009 03:49 PM (cMo6P)
At least it happened in Texas and not California or New York. If the perp or perps live, he/they are basically guaranteed the needle. Shame it couldn't be a death of a thousand cuts, though.
I think this is a Federal Crime, and yes, the death penalty will apply. If the shooters are (muslim convert or mole?) servicemen, the UCMJ should apply, and we should get a relatively quick execution. Timothy McVeigh was executed fairly quickly (6 years rather than 16 or even 26)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 05, 2009 03:50 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: RobD at November 05, 2009 03:46 PM (sV3Dv)
Yes, I have noticed that, and I suspect that's still a possibility here too.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at November 05, 2009 03:50 PM (H7Rlw)
Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 03:50 PM (sey23)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 03:50 PM (eXZjc)
Posted by: rabidfox at November 05, 2009 03:50 PM (E1GeA)
Posted by: RobD at November 05, 2009 03:51 PM (sV3Dv)
Posted by: trailortrash at November 05, 2009 03:51 PM (2Z+7j)
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 05, 2009 03:51 PM (lYKj1)
I cross my fingers that this is a training drill that somebody picked up over the radio and misunderstood, like what happened on Sept. 11th this year.
Doubt seriously that's the case or they'd know by now. But that's the only good scenario I can think of.
This was obviously a planned attack. People who have gone off the deep end generally work alone, not in teams.
Posted by: yinzer at November 05, 2009 03:51 PM (/Mla1)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 03:51 PM (p302b)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at November 05, 2009 03:51 PM (wgLRl)
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2009 03:52 PM (6Njk9)
Posted by: I sea kittens at November 05, 2009 03:52 PM (bAL0J)
Whatever. I would have made the same mistake myself, as a civvie. I'm not holding that, of all the possible things I could, against him.
Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2009 03:52 PM (GhUHn)
Shep needs to do some research on military life in CONUS. He's talking as if all the military are running around armed. Idiot.
you mean they don't drive tanks and strykers to work here in the US?
Posted by: Ben at November 05, 2009 03:52 PM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Iblis at November 05, 2009 03:53 PM (9221z)
He knows nothing about the military, nothing about the Army, nothing about security, nothing about what he's talking about.
Ft. Hood is now a 'closed' base. They're talking about security now. Shooters wouldn't come in the damn gates anyway. You can tell these people have never been to Ft. Hood - it's HUGE. They could crawl over a fence for goodness sake and walk to wherever they want to go.
Instead of waiting for facts and sticking to reporting what they know, now they have to sensationalize it.
Posted by: catmman at November 05, 2009 03:53 PM (BCSpK)
So, multiple shooters, multiple targets, and not a lone PTSD case or whatever the media wants the narrative to be.
Posted by: stuiec at November 05, 2009 03:54 PM (rBLs5)
Posted by: Barack Obama at November 05, 2009 03:54 PM (VmtE9)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 05, 2009 03:54 PM (NtiET)
Posted by: DrewM. at November 05, 2009 03:54 PM (FCWQb)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 03:55 PM (p302b)
Posted by: USMC at November 05, 2009 03:55 PM (wDAko)
Posted by: ParisParis at November 05, 2009 03:55 PM (NPtVh)
Posted by: I sea kittens at November 05, 2009 03:52 PM (bAL0J)
Let's not jump to hasty conclusions. It could be the dreaded Presbyterian separatists.
Posted by: stuiec at November 05, 2009 03:55 PM (rBLs5)
Posted by: George Orwell at November 05, 2009 03:55 PM (/WLDq)
Posted by: schneedoo at November 05, 2009 03:55 PM (KNCWm)
Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 05, 2009 03:56 PM (NgoAe)
If its a terrorist attack, I'm sure that there will be civilian reprisals this time that we were accused of doing after 9/11 that never happened.
Hoping that it was a case of our own soldiers going off seems wrong.
Posted by: polynikes at November 05, 2009 03:56 PM (m2CN7)
113 I apologize for the criminal policies of Bush that caused this man-made disaster.
we will hear it in one form or another if it turns out these people were of the shall we say camel fucking persuasion.
Posted by: Ben at November 05, 2009 03:56 PM (wuv1c)
It's changed in the last 8 years, 2 months.
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 05, 2009 03:56 PM (Be4xl)
Posted by: Jewells at November 05, 2009 03:57 PM (l/N7H)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lon_Horiuchi
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 03:57 PM (eXZjc)
I'm starting a pool. Any guesses on the names of the shooters? I have dibs on Mohammad, but Hasan, Achmed, Mustafa, Aziz, Abdul, Hamid, Akeem, and Hussein are still up for grabs.
Posted by: Sgt. Rock at November 05, 2009 03:58 PM (2jp4I)
This is sadly going to get interesting.
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 03:58 PM (dwwPD)
Yeah, they're assholes.
Posted by: mare at November 05, 2009 03:58 PM (X1fsj)
Absolute fucking bullshit!
You do NOT want me to re-enlist and go the fuck off on mother fuckers again.
I am SO fucking pissed!
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 03:58 PM (hA5JK)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 03:58 PM (p302b)
I cross my fingers that this is a training drill that somebody picked up over the radio and misunderstood, like what happened on Sept. 11th this year.
Doubt seriously that's the case or they'd know by now. But that's the only good scenario I can think of.
This was obviously a planned attack. People who have gone off the deep end generally work alone, not in teams.
Posted by: yinzer at November 05, 2009 03:51 PM (/Mla1)
The fact that every EMT unit in the Ft. Hood-Killeen area has been scrambled to assist with the casualties sort of confirms that this is not a drill. That, and the many official announcements by the base and by elected officials.
Posted by: stuiec at November 05, 2009 03:58 PM (rBLs5)
May those who did this live a thousand years in utter agony while their souls are devoured by demons.
Posted by: alexthechick at November 05, 2009 03:58 PM (8WZWv)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 03:59 PM (eXZjc)
OK, that's the name for the first shooter, what about the others?
Posted by: catmman at November 05, 2009 03:59 PM (BCSpK)
Posted by: RobD at November 05, 2009 03:59 PM (sV3Dv)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 05, 2009 03:59 PM (DPM1U)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 03:59 PM (eXZjc)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 03:58 PM (p302b)
Anyone want to start a pool on how many days it will take for Obama to make any personal for-the-cameras statement about this?
Posted by: stuiec at November 05, 2009 04:00 PM (rBLs5)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 04:00 PM (p302b)
Posted by: George Orwell at November 05, 2009 04:00 PM (/WLDq)
Not like that now.
But yeh, when there are miles of fence, there are ways in.
My guess is that these guys has business there. Non-military people can get passes to get on base, whether to install DirecTV in base housing or to do gardening work, or any sort of work.
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 05, 2009 04:00 PM (Be4xl)
Muslim Extremists are a 1:50
No word on Liturgical Protestants
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Posted by: BumperStickerist at November 05, 2009 04:00 PM (ruzrP)
I throw in for a media asshat somehow blaming teabaggers
Another media asshat blaming George Bush
Another media asshat after finding out some Obama policy relaxed security finding a way to say Bush did it first
Another media asshat blaming Palin
And finally a whole bunch of media asshats in the ultimate gimme, America's imperial foreign is the cause.
Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 05, 2009 04:01 PM (NgoAe)
Posted by: wherestherum at November 05, 2009 04:01 PM (GZnia)
Posted by: Tex at November 05, 2009 04:01 PM (73eJg)
Posted by: dananjcon at November 05, 2009 04:01 PM (1B81L)
Could be wrong but it really fits a scenario they would love.
Posted by: jjshaka at November 05, 2009 04:01 PM (Pu33u)
Posted by: Old Texas Turkey at November 05, 2009 04:02 PM (0D4RJ)
142 So does Barry turn this into an excuse to bail on A-stan, or merely an excuse to turn boot camp into sensitivity training seminars?
The obvious answer here is, YES... also, we really ought to mothball these costly, wasteful and dangerous military bases. All of 'em. Ayup.
Posted by: Truman North at November 05, 2009 04:02 PM (e8YaH)
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at November 05, 2009 04:02 PM (6BgmB)
If it were a shooting at an abortion clinic, he'd be hosting CNN right now...
Posted by: catmman at November 05, 2009 04:02 PM (BCSpK)
Posted by: B. H. Obama at November 05, 2009 04:02 PM (5aa4z)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at November 05, 2009 04:02 PM (wgLRl)
Guns would have to be smuggled in, as active soldiers in garrison don't have their weapons. (once on a post, the targets are as soft, if not softer, than a civilian site, since the concealed carry laws in Texas would not apply - less chance of an armed civilian stopping things.)
Ft. Hood is huge, as noted above, so entry through the countryside is also possible.
To me, this level of planning and access suggests an inside job (i.e. at least one of the shooters or planners is military). Hope I'm wrong. Praying for my fellow soldiers and their families.
Posted by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate at November 05, 2009 04:02 PM (5skY4)
Posted by: George Orwell at November 05, 2009 04:02 PM (/WLDq)
Posted by: schneedoo at November 05, 2009 04:02 PM (KNCWm)
Posted by: bledsoe at November 05, 2009 04:02 PM (vcJhi)
Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 05, 2009 04:02 PM (NgoAe)
Posted by: I Am Jack's Expletive Free Comment at November 05, 2009 04:02 PM (8XI4A)
Posted by: RobD at November 05, 2009 04:03 PM (sV3Dv)
Posted by: schneedoo at November 05, 2009 03:55 PM (KNCWm)
He also wasn't tried and sentenced under the auspices of an Attorney General named Holder. He's worth fifty ACLU defense attorneys to a terrorism defendant.
Posted by: stuiec at November 05, 2009 04:03 PM (rBLs5)
132 CNN reporting that the prez is aware of the "fatal mass shooting at Ft Hood" and that they are in the situation room dealing with it.
Just so you don't start any nasty rumors, the high fives and laughter in the situation room were due to how this will advance our plans to shut down talk radio and the teabaggers, and not solely because American troops were killed and wounded.
Posted by: Barack Obama at November 05, 2009 04:03 PM (VmtE9)
Someone will be made to pay. Probably the victims' families.
Those poor families. The last fucking thing they need is Barry crashing the funerals with his "concerned face" and his photographers.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 05, 2009 04:03 PM (NtiET)
Posted by: Douchey Liberal Academic at November 05, 2009 04:03 PM (e8YaH)
Posted by: Scott J. at November 05, 2009 04:04 PM (NY7mQ)
Posted by: MSNBC at November 05, 2009 04:04 PM (KOkrW)
The fact that every EMT unit in the Ft. Hood-Killeen area has been scrambled to assist with the casualties sort of confirms that this is not a drill.
The same thing happened in DC, because the federal gubment doesn't always keep locals updated on what's happening. But I know that's not the case here, just wishful thinking.
Posted by: yinzer at November 05, 2009 04:04 PM (/Mla1)
Posted by: DngrMse at November 05, 2009 04:04 PM (wynRm)
continental U. S. as opposed to AK, Hawaii and the rest of the world that are O(outside)CONUS
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 05, 2009 04:04 PM (Be4xl)
Graduation on base means lots of civies coming and going.
Multiple points of attack. (remind you of anything that happened recently? think India)
Staggered attacks, looks like someone was waiting for first responders.
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at November 05, 2009 04:05 PM (SHfRo)
So who's behind this? Muslim extremists?
If the liberal media buries it, you will know.
Mexican drug lords?
If the opern borders greedheads at the WSJ buy it too, you will know.
Run of the mill disheveled nutcases?
Then it will be front page news for weeks.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 05, 2009 04:05 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: schneedoo at November 05, 2009 04:02 PM (KNCWm)
Well, of course they are. They themselves are suffering from PTSD from 9/11. They have to keep telling themselves that it's not a terrorist attack because (a) that means they're not safe anymore and (b) it's a terror attack on U.S. soil on their Messiah's watch.
If the truth is going to completely annihilate one's self___ and worldview, one is going to reject reality and substitute a comforting fantasy.
Posted by: stuiec at November 05, 2009 04:06 PM (rBLs5)
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 05, 2009 04:06 PM (Be4xl)
PTSB post traumatic stress disorder
YOUEO youths of undetermined ethnic origin
CONUS continental united states
STFU sshut the fuck up
Posted by: MSNBC at November 05, 2009 04:07 PM (KOkrW)
I have a daughter who is a wife of a Marine who used to be stationed at Camp Pendleton. We visited her all of the time. Getting on base was a piece of cake.
It always takes something like this for people to take this stuff seriously.
Posted by: RayJ at November 05, 2009 04:07 PM (YcjCJ)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 04:07 PM (eXZjc)
Posted by: MSNBC at November 05, 2009 04:04 PM (KOkrW)
I am sure that American service members being murdered on American soil doesn't rise to the Nobel Committee's threshold of "non-peaceful." So he's good to go.
Posted by: stuiec at November 05, 2009 04:08 PM (rBLs5)
Posted by: grognard at November 05, 2009 04:08 PM (v0kvW)
Posted by: schneedoo at November 05, 2009 04:08 PM (KNCWm)
You know what, bledsoe? Eat me. Seriously, if you are offended by gallows humor then you are at the wrong blog.
Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 04:08 PM (sey23)
Posted by: CHuckie the J. at November 05, 2009 04:08 PM (waaUg)
Posted by: Cool Money Grip (Devoid O'Funk) at November 05, 2009 04:08 PM (KOkrW)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 05, 2009 04:08 PM (IqfKc)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 04:07 PM (eXZjc)
That's a shame.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 04:08 PM (5aa4z)
Posted by: Salem at November 05, 2009 04:08 PM (86rbG)
police scanner talking about sending units to all gates of the base to help with traffic flow. prior to that they were talking about something at a walmart for a while????
EMS just came on confirming all units to Ft Hood and confirming comm channel.
Posted by: Old Texas Turkey at November 05, 2009 04:08 PM (0D4RJ)
Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 04:08 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 04:08 PM (dwwPD)
Local Stream
Local coverage tends to people-centered, rather than issue focused.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at November 05, 2009 04:08 PM (ruzrP)
at least they are ok, but regardless of the cause, this is major suckage.
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 05, 2009 04:09 PM (d1FhN)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 05, 2009 04:09 PM (NtiET)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 04:09 PM (p302b)
chickens, roost... see: Smart! diplomacy
I'm going to put a hole in a wall if I don't go for a while. Good night, retards
Posted by: Truman North at November 05, 2009 04:09 PM (e8YaH)
Posted by: bledsoe at November 05, 2009 04:09 PM (vcJhi)
Security is tiered towards controlling entry. Gates and entry control points are the priority. Mobile patrols work in their respective sectors (usually). If there is a high priority resource, the security around that resource would be higher, depending on the resource.
Ft. Hood is massive. If I had to guess and this was anyone other than military guys, they probably came over a fence somewhere and simply walked where they wanted to go. If they were wearing uniforms, even if they were carrying weapons, they wouldn't seem to out of place on a military base, even in traditionally built up areas - BX/PX, theater, Commissary, etc.
And as someone else mentioned, if they came on a base, it isn't to hard to get on in civilian type vehicles claiming to be cable-TV, whatever - security, as good as it is, isn't that tight.
And frankly, most of the entry controllers are probably civilian contractors and they just don't pay as close attention as active duty guys in my experience.
Posted by: catmman at November 05, 2009 04:09 PM (BCSpK)
Posted by: Scott J. at November 05, 2009 04:04 PM (NY7mQ)
FIFY.
Posted by: stuiec at November 05, 2009 04:09 PM (rBLs5)
Posted by: George Orwell at November 05, 2009 04:09 PM (/WLDq)
My sister and brother-in-law spent the last three years at Ft. Hood. They loved Killeen. They moved to Ft. Sill this last July, but I've already called her just the same. They've heard from a few friends on post via Facebook, but are still waiting to hear from others.
Posted by: Deanna at November 05, 2009 04:10 PM (EiWvg)
Posted by: Old Texas Turkey at November 05, 2009 04:10 PM (0D4RJ)
You know what, bledsoe?
Y, I was going to be a little more gentle, but still say something. Joking about a catastrophe is one of the most normal human responses to a tragedy that doesn't hit you personally. It's not disrespect, it's a coping mechanism. And this is certainly the place to vent some black humor at the sorry state our CULTURE is in.
Posted by: moron # 246151614 at November 05, 2009 04:11 PM (p1s9n)
Posted by: Jai at November 05, 2009 04:11 PM (8K2ZC)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 04:11 PM (eXZjc)
Posted by: Typical DUmmy from DU at November 05, 2009 04:11 PM (/WLDq)
Posted by: DrewM. at November 05, 2009 04:11 PM (FCWQb)
Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 04:12 PM (sey23)
Posted by: Berserker at November 05, 2009 04:12 PM (gWHrG)
Posted by: bledsoe at November 05, 2009 04:09 PM (vcJhi)
your asinine comments tell me you are unfamiliar with this blog- FUCK OFF
Posted by: Cool Money Grip (Devoid O'Funk) at November 05, 2009 04:12 PM (KOkrW)
Could be a lone PTSD fuck up
Could be muslims
Could be a coordinated attack ala Columbine by n'er do well douschebag enlisted men with no friends
Who the fuck knows?
Posted by: Mr. Happy at November 05, 2009 04:12 PM (waaUg)
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2009 04:12 PM (PjevJ)
Posted by: Jai at November 05, 2009 04:11 PM (8K2ZC)
Cracker Teabagger, unless otherwise decided by the deciders.
Posted by: Editor at November 05, 2009 04:12 PM (pUfK9)
scanner: violent domestic on east rancine. male and female. female hitting male. somethings never take a break.
scanner: Male with gun and military uniform in parking lot of dollar general
Posted by: Old Texas Turkey at November 05, 2009 04:13 PM (0D4RJ)
Posted by: RobD at November 05, 2009 04:13 PM (sV3Dv)
They're close enough to Mexico they could probably get RPGs.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 04:13 PM (5aa4z)
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at November 05, 2009 04:13 PM (SHfRo)
Since fucking WHEN?
I've always had an MP wave me through.
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 04:13 PM (hA5JK)
I'll take muslim extremists for $100, Alex.
Posted by: Cicero at November 05, 2009 04:13 PM (QKKT0)
On scanner... male sighted in dollar store parking lot in uniform with a rifle.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at November 05, 2009 04:13 PM (H7Rlw)
No one here is "chuckling" bub.
Posted by: moron # 32461325 at November 05, 2009 04:13 PM (p1s9n)
Yeah, well, I didn't participate in last night's flame war.
There are plenty of blogs where people who are easily offended by black humor directed at the media, the liberal intelligentsia, and the terrorists can go.
LGF comes to mind.
Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 04:14 PM (sey23)
Posted by: Typical DUmmy from DU at November 05, 2009 04:14 PM (/WLDq)
scanner: Male with gun and military uniform in parking lot of dollar general
Posted by: Old Texas Turkey at November 05, 2009 04:13 PM (0D4RJ)
That'll get more than one black and white rolling.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 04:15 PM (5aa4z)
That leaves Global Warming as a potential causal factor.
The local news team is talking about the security at the gates and saying that, in their experience, the Post is secure with regard to IDs and checks.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at November 05, 2009 04:15 PM (ruzrP)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 04:15 PM (eXZjc)
Let us also not forget that an M16 is pretty easy to get in the country to our south.
You mean after they're smuggled down from our side of the border? Janet Napolitano told me that's what happens.
Posted by: yinzer at November 05, 2009 04:16 PM (/Mla1)
Posted by: Chas. Johnson-Kilgore-Sharmuta, Esq. at November 05, 2009 04:16 PM (uHvsp)
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at November 05, 2009 04:16 PM (rMZSv)
Posted by: moron # 4356115 at November 05, 2009 04:16 PM (p1s9n)
And of course, if this turns out to be what most of us expect it to be -- an islamo-vermin attack that managed to slip through -- they'll do their damnedest to bury it. Which will only further punctuate how contemptible -- and dare I say, treasonous -- they've become.
Any bets on how many days will pass before President Prissypants bothers to issue a weak-ass statement/apology-to-the world?
Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at November 05, 2009 04:16 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 04:15 PM (eXZjc
Does that mean shit is still going down?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2009 04:16 PM (5aa4z)
Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 05, 2009 04:17 PM (NgoAe)
Christ. Maybe the third shooter came in with as much firepower as he could carry and dug in somewhere? Dammit, I'm at work and can't get video!
Posted by: joncelli at November 05, 2009 04:17 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: d at November 05, 2009 04:18 PM (uTknY)
NBC suggesting they wouldn't be surprised if it's a soldier suffering from PTSD. Of course that's what they're positing...
From MSNBC website
"Fort Hood has seen other violence in recent years. In September 2008, a 21-year-old 1st Cavalry Division soldier shot his lieutenant to death and then killed himself. Spc. Jody Michael Wirawan of Eagle River, Alaska. shot himself to death after shooting 1st Lt. Robert Bartlett Fletcher, 24, of Jensen Beach, Fla. to death"
they could have just as easily said 3000 people were killed when muslims flew planes into buildings in new york, but then again we all know what they are hoping for.
I have mixed feelings on the perps. One part of me hopes they both get killed, another part wants one to be captured so we can find out all the details about those responsible.
Either way, I hope the twenty wounded aren't badly wounded and will make recoveries.
Posted by: S at November 05, 2009 04:18 PM (wuv1c)
Posted by: grognard at November 05, 2009 04:18 PM (v0kvW)
Posted by: Douchey Liberal Academic at November 05, 2009 04:03 PM (e8YaH)
Sockpuppet FAIL.
"I can clearly see that this senseless military accident, which was in no way committed by or connected to any members of the Muslim community, would never have happened but for Bush's reckless wars. Thank Gaia for our current Administration's foreign policy; the one silver lining in today's unfortunate events is that they give the President a clear mandate to remove American military forces from Afghanistan, Iraq, South Korea, Texas and every other foreign land immediately, if not sooner."
Posted by: stuiec at November 05, 2009 04:18 PM (rBLs5)
Thats how it is at Ft Jackson, I was there in Sept for my daughters graduation. The PX area was PACKED on Thursday because the soldiers don't get off base pases and thats the most popular place for them to hang out with their families.
Posted by: TC at November 05, 2009 04:18 PM (QXKjZ)
Posted by: yinzer at November 05, 2009 04:18 PM (/Mla1)
Gunpowder plot 1605
Saddam Hussein sentenced to death by hanging by an Iraqi court 2006
Iran's Ayatollah Khomeini declares U.S. The Great Satan 1979
Khomeini followers attack British embassy/El Al office in Iran 1978
Nothing huge that I can find yet
Posted by: . at November 05, 2009 04:18 PM (gQLr2)
Posted by: x11b1p at November 05, 2009 04:18 PM (K3MWP)
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 04:19 PM (hA5JK)
#224
Yeah, security at the gates can be top notch, but Ft. Hood is pretty big. It would'nt take a lot of work to find other ways in.
Posted by: DngrMse at November 05, 2009 04:19 PM (wynRm)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 05, 2009 04:19 PM (IqfKc)
"4 SWAT members injured."
and how many gunmen were reported? Is it 3 at 3 separate locations?
See, this is what scares me. Anecdotes I get from folks over in the sandbox is that the muslims can't shoot all that good.
Posted by: Scott J. at November 05, 2009 04:19 PM (NY7mQ)
4 SWAT members injured
Christ. Maybe the third shooter came in with as much firepower as he could carry and dug in somewhere? Dammit, I'm at work and can't get video!
could be like what the Pali's did to the israelis. They would set off a suicide bomb, then wait til the first responders showed up and then set off another one. I doubt 4 SWAT would get shot without killing the shooter.
Posted by: S at November 05, 2009 04:19 PM (wuv1c)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 04:19 PM (p302b)
Posted by: MSM Conventional Wisdom at November 05, 2009 04:19 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: fiatboomer at November 05, 2009 04:20 PM (0Wf6c)
Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 05, 2009 04:20 PM (NgoAe)
"Disturbance in progress, there's a female in a beige Chrysler van who keeps on ramming into a Ford Taurus, seems like she's doing it on purpose..."
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 04:20 PM (dwwPD)
Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at November 05, 2009 04:16 PM (pLTLS)
well, he needs to get this off his desk in time for saturday golf, so I'm think Friday afternoon dump
Posted by: Cool Money Grip (Devoid O'Funk) at November 05, 2009 04:20 PM (KOkrW)
Posted by: Attorney General Eric Holder at November 05, 2009 04:20 PM (sXLx/)
"4 SWAT members injured."
and how many gunmen were reported? Is it 3 at 3 separate locations?
See, this is what scares me. Anecdotes I get from folks over in the sandbox is that the muslims can't shoot all that good.
americans shoot well, and these are prob americans doing the shooting, who may happen to be..well. you know
Posted by: S at November 05, 2009 04:20 PM (wuv1c)
Isn't the flaming skull pretty much an invitation for that? I think that's in poor taste, myself.
Posted by: Salem at November 05, 2009 04:20 PM (86rbG)
132 they are in the situation room dealing with it.
Yeah right. Waiting for Hans Brix to fax over a sternly worded letter for them to do a copy/paste on, warning the bible & gun clinging rednecks to quit it already? Cause this couldn't possibly be terrorism, not with chocolate jesus running things.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at November 05, 2009 04:20 PM (cniXs)
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 04:20 PM (dwwPD)
LOL! I just heard that too.
Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 04:21 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 04:21 PM (dwwPD)
I kinda depends. Most entry control duties at military facilities have been taken over by civilian contractors or DOD cops over the past few years - at CONUS bases.
You'll see MP's or SF on the gates from time to time, or at certain gates, it just depends on the installation, manning, lots of factors.
Almost all the 'sentries' down here in San Antonio are civilians. Most of the military police are deployed or doing other 'cop' work on base.
Posted by: catmman at November 05, 2009 04:21 PM (BCSpK)
See, this is what scares me. Anecdotes I get from folks over in the sandbox is that the muslims can't shoot all that good.
I'm guessing the runof the mill sandbox muslim can't fly too good either, but they did a number on us on 9/11/01. All it takes is a little learnin'. They must pick up things well when they think there are 16 virgins waiting for them.
Posted by: yinzer at November 05, 2009 04:21 PM (/Mla1)
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at November 05, 2009 04:16 PM
Scrunt belongs in a Hieronymous Bosch painting.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 05, 2009 04:21 PM (NtiET)
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2009 04:21 PM (qU2w5)
(directly from the NMCC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Military_Command_Center)
this is NOT a domestic attack.
I will talk around the subject as I learn more.
Posted by: FORAC at November 05, 2009 04:22 PM (m7EhJ)
3 perpetrators means this was planned. This is all simple guess work right now since we do not know any facts other than that but I am bettin fundementalist shitheads. You pick the flavor.
imho
PS i hope they rot in hell.
Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 05, 2009 04:22 PM (SqAkN)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 04:22 PM (p302b)
Youths Of Unknown Ethnic Origin, or YOUEOs.
Posted by: Schmoopy (rdb) at November 05, 2009 04:23 PM (mkihu)
Posted by: Scott J. at November 05, 2009 04:23 PM (NY7mQ)
Posted by: Fortunate Son at November 05, 2009 04:23 PM (B7kwl)
Posted by: John ryan at November 05, 2009 04:23 PM (m0Q2u)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 04:24 PM (eXZjc)
On the three perp thing: Unless it's been confirmed by reliable means, I doubt it. Prolly just one shooter and some other guys trying to defend themselves.
Was it really at more than one locale?
Posted by: Schmoopy (rdb) at November 05, 2009 04:24 PM (mkihu)
I'm hearing
this is NOT a domestic attack.
What exactly does that mean? It's not an attack from foreigners? Or it's not an attack from people who were supposed to be on the base?
Posted by: yinzer at November 05, 2009 04:24 PM (/Mla1)
did the fbi catch a 3/4 man group early last year planning the same type of thing at Ft. Dix or was it this year?
Posted by: x11b1p at November 05, 2009 04:24 PM (K3MWP)
Posted by: Leftist Fucktard Chorus at November 05, 2009 04:24 PM (pLTLS)
They can quell *anything*.
[/gallows humor]
Posted by: BumperStickerist at November 05, 2009 04:25 PM (ruzrP)
Posted by: concious, but incoherent at November 05, 2009 04:25 PM (kn+jW)
Posted by: moron # 526231 at November 05, 2009 04:25 PM (p1s9n)
Posted by: Derak at November 05, 2009 04:26 PM (lLxSN)
Posted by: Old Texas Turkey at November 05, 2009 04:26 PM (0D4RJ)
(click)
(recording of BHO's voice)
"Hello. You have reached the White House's Apology line. For my apology for our nation being one that never lives up to its ideals and that uses greedily most of the world's resources, stealing them from non-white peoples, press 1. For my apology for our nation being a mean country that oppresses people of color and creates internal divisions rending our social fabric, press 2. For my apology that George Bush left me a mess that Republicans won't mop up and it's all his fault, press 3. For all other apologies, visit www.barackapologizesfortheUSA.gov and fill out my handy e-pologize form and an apology for anything American will be sent to you by e-mail. Press pound to hear this message again."
Posted by: George Orwell at November 05, 2009 04:26 PM (/WLDq)
262, Why would you say that? The standard 5.56 Nato round is notoriously weak on stopping power compared even to most common handgun rounds. If they were using commercial market hollowpoints, that is a different story, but the military is banned by the Geneva Convention from using expanding ammunition.
I saw a rumor elsewhere that one was armed with a sniper rifle, which might be a different story when it comes to lethality if he is shooing .308 or .338 rounds.
Posted by: Tex at November 05, 2009 04:26 PM (73eJg)
2006 – Saddam Hussein, former president of Iraq, and his co-defendants Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti and Awad Hamed al-Bandar are sentenced to death in the al-Dujail trial for the role in the massacre of the 148 Shi'as in 1982.
Or they could be pissed about the election of Nixon in '68, or the Treaty of Ft. Stanwix.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 05, 2009 04:27 PM (NtiET)
Posted by: Jerome Clam at November 05, 2009 04:27 PM (lB/5N)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 04:27 PM (eXZjc)
The FBI has been saying that about everything since 9-12-01. It's meaningless.
Posted by: koopy at November 05, 2009 04:27 PM (a+cN7)
Posted by: jjshaka at November 05, 2009 04:28 PM (Pu33u)
Hmmm.
Posted by: Derak at November 05, 2009 04:26 PM (lLxSN)
How would the FBI know it that fast ...and isn't that the first propaganda the WH would want to put out? The last thing they need is terrorists shooting our troops on our own military bases.
Posted by: concious, but incoherent at November 05, 2009 04:28 PM (kn+jW)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 04:24 PM (eXZjc)
He says the FBI is saying "there is no terrorism nexus" in this attack. How they would know that at this juncture is beyond me. Unless there is a standing order to all Federal agents that there will never be any terrorist nexus to any incident on US soil while Obama is President.
Posted by: stuiec at November 05, 2009 04:28 PM (rBLs5)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 04:28 PM (eXZjc)
I'm thinking he means the cops will actually be wounded, as the news reports, instead of having the round stopped by a vest.
Or he's full of shit.
Take your pick.
Posted by: moron # 2346135 at November 05, 2009 04:28 PM (p1s9n)
Who is saying the gunmen used M-16s? If it's just the media I'd take it with a grain of salt anything that shoots real fast to them is either a M-16 or AK-47
Posted by: bulwark at November 05, 2009 04:28 PM (jvrmc)
Posted by: Master Baiter at November 05, 2009 04:28 PM (GfYt/)
Posted by: Jack Burton at November 05, 2009 04:29 PM (K6eXX)
They haven't even got there yet! How the hell do they know?!
Posted by: catmman at November 05, 2009 04:29 PM (BCSpK)
Posted by: Monty at November 05, 2009 04:29 PM (4Pleu)
FBI, you keep using that phrase.
I do not think it means what you think it means.
Posted by: Inigo "John" Montoya - legal resident at November 05, 2009 04:29 PM (ruzrP)
This is shocking as Hell.
I just flew out of there, not too long ago. Huge base. Not really sure where all this occured, whether in a restricted area or not.
Posted by: Triumph at November 05, 2009 04:29 PM (lDdA/)
Every single news report ends with: President Obama was notified.
OK? I guess that is standard procedure but seriously, who cares?
I care if these brave men or their civilian support are dead and if they have caught the assholes whomever they may be. Then I care that they are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Does the federal govt have the death penalty?
Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2009 04:30 PM (20SCN)
Posted by: Tex at November 05, 2009 04:30 PM (73eJg)
or JOOZ. There are virtually no Jooz within a 5 mile radius of Ft. Hood today. And Netanyahu has not been heard from.
Just saying, yo.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 05, 2009 04:30 PM (9Cooa)
Posted by: Ken Royall at November 05, 2009 04:30 PM (9zzk+)
Posted by: RayJ at November 05, 2009 04:30 PM (YcjCJ)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 05, 2009 04:30 PM (NtiET)
Posted by: Scott J. at November 05, 2009 04:30 PM (NY7mQ)
Posted by: SFC MAC at November 05, 2009 04:30 PM (cuNX0)
Posted by: otcconan at November 05, 2009 04:30 PM (uZQXD)
Posted by: spypeach at November 05, 2009 04:30 PM (qsM1Q)
FBI already saying it isn't terrorism?
They haven't even got there yet! How the hell do they know?!
One guy is in custody, perhaps he's talked and the info has been relayed to the FBI.
I'm still skeptical.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at November 05, 2009 04:31 PM (sXLx/)
Posted by: joncelli at November 05, 2009 04:31 PM (RD7QR)
Hmmm.
Posted by: Derak at November 05, 2009 04:26 PM (lLxSN)
How would the FBI know it that fast ...and isn't that the first propaganda the WH would want to put out? The last thing they need is terrorists shooting our troops on our own military bases.
My sentiments exactly. Sorry to be so quick about it, but who the hell would walk into an Army base and unload? Only those with suicidal tendencies, or perhaps wishing for 72 virgins.
Posted by: Derak at November 05, 2009 04:31 PM (lLxSN)
No one knows jack about what really is happening.
One thing is certain, if it's more than one shooter, by definition it IS terrorism.
Posted by: Max Power at November 05, 2009 04:31 PM (q177U)
262: "The standard 5.56 Nato round is notoriously weak on stopping power compared even to most common handgun rounds. ".
This is the dumbest thing I've read all day. Stop learning about guns from COD forums.
Posted by: Spade at November 05, 2009 04:31 PM (7WUru)
Posted by: Tex at November 05, 2009 04:32 PM (73eJg)
Posted by: Have Blue at November 05, 2009 04:32 PM (mV+es)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 05, 2009 04:32 PM (NtiET)
Oh he'll be out there right away, "never let a crisis go to waste", you know.
"This just shows we need gun control!!eleventy!"
"Get out of A-Stan STAT!"
Posted by: nightwitch at November 05, 2009 04:32 PM (YVMan)
And what exactly does the flaming skull on this post signify, again?
Posted by: Salem at November 05, 2009 04:32 PM (86rbG)
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 04:32 PM (dwwPD)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 05, 2009 04:32 PM (zmiSr)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 04:32 PM (p302b)
what does constitute terrorist activity today under obama? i assume one would have to find a koran a picture of obl and a c4 ball bearing vest on someone b/f the white house acknowledges a terrorist attack, its not like killing a soldier in the name of islam (like what happened earlier this year in the south) qualifies.
Posted by: x11b1p at November 05, 2009 04:32 PM (K3MWP)
Posted by: Deanna at November 05, 2009 04:33 PM (EiWvg)
Posted by: RayJ at November 05, 2009 04:33 PM (YcjCJ)
The cell phone issue on the scanner seemed to be only with the one cop lady who was intent on writing down unit numbers on some kind of white board.
Posted by: Old Texas Turkey at November 05, 2009 04:33 PM (0D4RJ)
Posted by: RobD at November 05, 2009 04:33 PM (sV3Dv)
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 04:34 PM (dwwPD)
Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2009 04:34 PM (20SCN)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 04:34 PM (eXZjc)
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 04:34 PM (hA5JK)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at November 05, 2009 04:34 PM (+hPIb)
313 So because the guy in custody is 40, it can't be terrorism? What exactly is the logic on that one?
Doesn't fit the profile. Most of the ones we've dealt with domestically have been under 35 IIRC.
It's also common "over there" I think. The only old ones tend to be ring leaders. Not foot soilders who carry out the attacks.
Posted by: Scott J. at November 05, 2009 04:34 PM (NY7mQ)
LOL, some needed laughs.
Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 05, 2009 04:34 PM (NgoAe)
Posted by: JDW at November 05, 2009 04:34 PM (uw+0A)
I mean, if this is terrorist-related, then action must be taken, but fuck.
Everyone's waiting to spew out editorials once the motive is announced (especially the SRM).
Posted by: fiatboomer at November 05, 2009 04:34 PM (0Wf6c)
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2009 04:34 PM (NI090)
Posted by: Jai at November 05, 2009 04:35 PM (8K2ZC)
Shit.
Early reports are always garbled and the media will never correct them so I'm going to wait and see on teh details, but damn.
Posted by: Lea at November 05, 2009 04:35 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 05, 2009 04:35 PM (IqfKc)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 05, 2009 04:35 PM (zmiSr)
Showing up on the Mall in D.C. with signs protesting socialized medicine.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 05, 2009 04:35 PM (NtiET)
Posted by: concious, but incoherent at November 05, 2009 04:35 PM (kn+jW)
Posted by: David in San Diego at November 05, 2009 04:36 PM (GF+6V)
Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2009 04:36 PM (20SCN)
Just saying.
Posted by: Jack Burton at November 05, 2009 04:37 PM (K6eXX)
Posted by: Scott J. at November 05, 2009 04:34 PM (NY7mQ)
Some of us are stepping in...we're kinda low on foot soldiers.
Posted by: Middle management-Al Quida at November 05, 2009 04:37 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 04:37 PM (p302b)
Posted by: x11b1p at November 05, 2009 04:37 PM (K3MWP)
This is an indication of military 'security':
If you wanted to stand on top of a missile silo containing an actual nuke, how hard would you think it was to gain access?
Answer: A bolt cutter or simply climb over the fence. That's it and you could set up your tailgate party on top of an active missile silo. And you' have anywhere from 15-30 minutes before any security folks showed up to take you off/out.
Of course you'd never get through the 40 ton 'blast door' covering the silo, so...
Military security is relative. It is nothing like you would think it is and nothing like what you've seen in the movies.
Posted by: catmman at November 05, 2009 04:37 PM (BCSpK)
Posted by: Cool Money Grip (Devoid O'Funk) at November 05, 2009 04:38 PM (KOkrW)
Posted by: Scott J. at November 05, 2009 04:38 PM (NY7mQ)
Posted by: maddogg at November 05, 2009 04:38 PM (OlN4e)
Showing up on the Mall in D.C. with signs protesting socialized medicine.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 05, 2009 04:35 PM (NtiET)
+100
Posted by: concious, but incoherent at November 05, 2009 04:38 PM (kn+jW)
Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2009 04:38 PM (20SCN)
They haven't even got there yet! How the hell do they know?!
I'm guessing government policy is that whenever there is a terrorist attack, that they immediately say it is definitely not a terrorist attack. Even if it is. Especially if it is.
Right now, voting for Muslim or white convert to Islam.
Posted by: shibumi at November 05, 2009 04:38 PM (OKZrE)
338 This is the point in the coverage of this story that will get the most exposure so they will say there is no terrorism connection and your average Joe Dipshit will believe them. Then a week later when they find a terrorism link it will be a much smaller story and Joe Dipshit will never hear about it.
^^^^ This.
Posted by: Derak at November 05, 2009 04:39 PM (lLxSN)
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2009 04:39 PM (pIKTP)
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 04:39 PM (dwwPD)
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at November 05, 2009 04:40 PM (SHfRo)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at November 05, 2009 04:40 PM (TZazt)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 05, 2009 04:40 PM (zmiSr)
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 04:41 PM (dwwPD)
Multiculturalism making its way into the Army? Didn't a Muslim convert frag some fellow soldiers in Iraq a while back?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 05, 2009 03:36 PM (ujg0T)
Yep. Hasan Akbar was the muslim fuckstick who murdered fellow Soldiers in Kuwait, and was subsequently sentenced to death by Courts Martial. He used grenades and his M4 to kill CPT. Christopher Scott Seifert, an S2 Officer in one of our 101st Airborne brigades, and wound 15 others. I was right down the road at Camp Udari when it happened. Akbar should be glad none of us were able to get our hands on him. He wouldn’t have made it to trial.
Posted by: SFC MAC at November 05, 2009 04:41 PM (cuNX0)
Posted by: Typical DUmmy from DU at November 05, 2009 04:41 PM (/WLDq)
Posted by: koopy at November 05, 2009 04:41 PM (a+cN7)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 04:41 PM (eXZjc)
Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2009 04:41 PM (20SCN)
Posted by: x11b1p at November 05, 2009 04:41 PM (K3MWP)
358 OK, why are they still sending in tactical squads if all the perps have been taken?
I would guess to search every nook and cranny of every nearby building in case one holed up for later.
Posted by: Scott J. at November 05, 2009 04:41 PM (NY7mQ)
Posted by: Deanna at November 05, 2009 04:42 PM (EiWvg)
I don't give a shit if Obama is the CiC, he isn't worthy to comment about our fallen or wounded soldiers.
Fox just said 9 dead, 27 wounded.
Posted by: concious, but incoherent at November 05, 2009 04:42 PM (kn+jW)
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2009 04:42 PM (7K04W)
OK, why are they still sending in tactical squads if all the perps have been taken?
All the known suspects are caught. But they're still going to need to clear a lot of areas. It will take a long time.
Posted by: yinzer at November 05, 2009 04:42 PM (/Mla1)
Posted by: the FBI's magic eight-ball at November 05, 2009 04:42 PM (+hPIb)
Posted by: TC at November 05, 2009 04:42 PM (QXKjZ)
Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2009 04:43 PM (20SCN)
LikeATimeBomb at 326 - Was not saying they weren't hippies, just saying that it is not impossible for a group of people getting to somewhere they shouldn't be.
Of the five in Kitsap, two were in their nineties (over eighty anyway) and the other three were in their sixties.
Posted by: Have Blue at November 05, 2009 04:43 PM (mV+es)
Posted by: lonestar at November 05, 2009 04:43 PM (CrJQs)
Posted by: Mike In BA at November 05, 2009 04:43 PM (1hSHv)
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 04:44 PM (dwwPD)
Posted by: yinzer at November 05, 2009 04:44 PM (/Mla1)
Well, I would have gone with the words BREAKING NEWS instead of a flaming skull in this case, but then I'm not an insensitive idiot.
Posted by: Salem at November 05, 2009 04:45 PM (86rbG)
Posted by: Jewells at November 05, 2009 04:45 PM (l/N7H)
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 04:45 PM (hA5JK)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 04:45 PM (p302b)
I never miss an opportunity for some face time.
Posted by: B fucking O at November 05, 2009 04:45 PM (QXKjZ)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 05, 2009 04:45 PM (zmiSr)
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 04:45 PM (dwwPD)
Posted by: George Orwell at November 05, 2009 04:45 PM (/WLDq)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at November 05, 2009 04:46 PM (ijjAe)
The flaming skull has always been used for things like this, nothing insensitive about it.
Posted by: koopy at November 05, 2009 04:46 PM (a+cN7)
Posted by: Mike In BA at November 05, 2009 04:43 PM (1hSHv)
Why do you say that?
Posted by: Middle management-Al Quida at November 05, 2009 04:46 PM (VuLos)
Do these so called journalists know how stupid they come across? (rhetorical question)
Oh, good, Obama's on - cuz, fer sure he knows all about military stuff nad shit.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at November 05, 2009 04:46 PM (2pjaO)
Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 04:46 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 04:47 PM (hA5JK)
I'm having a hard time with this being a case of mass PTSD.
This looks like a planned thing -- PSTD isn't exactly a planned thing. I know there's been a pretty active anti-war group hanging around Hood for ages.
Hood's my oldest's base.
Posted by: unknown jane at November 05, 2009 04:47 PM (5/yRG)
Posted by: Salem at November 05, 2009 04:48 PM (86rbG)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 05, 2009 04:48 PM (zmiSr)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 05, 2009 04:48 PM (RCCZt)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 04:48 PM (p302b)
Hey, he gets to put on his concerned face and look all gravitas-y for the cameras without having to actually do or say anything useful.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 05, 2009 04:49 PM (NtiET)
If some terrorist group ultimately claims responsibility, the FBI will have egg on their face.
Posted by: concious, but incoherent at November 05, 2009 04:49 PM (kn+jW)
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 04:49 PM (hA5JK)
Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 04:49 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 04:50 PM (dwwPD)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 05, 2009 04:50 PM (zmiSr)
I have never listened to a police scanner b4. much appreciation for all the shit the cops have to deal with. And this is at a small city the size of Kileen, I can only imagine what it sounds like in LA or NYC.
Posted by: Old Texas Turkey at November 05, 2009 04:50 PM (edQ4y)
Posted by: concious, but incoherent at November 05, 2009 04:51 PM (kn+jW)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 04:51 PM (p302b)
If some terrorist group ultimately claims responsibility, the FBI will have egg on their face.
The FBI has a long and affectionate affiliation with egg on the face.
Posted by: maddogg at November 05, 2009 04:51 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 04:52 PM (eXZjc)
Posted by: Dave at November 05, 2009 04:52 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: George Orwell at November 05, 2009 04:52 PM (/WLDq)
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 05, 2009 04:52 PM (lYKj1)
Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 04:52 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: Mike In BA at November 05, 2009 04:52 PM (1hSHv)
Just in case you morons haven't scrolled up to teh top in a while
Posted by: moron # 26433 at November 05, 2009 04:53 PM (p1s9n)
Posted by: Inigo at November 05, 2009 04:53 PM (ruzrP)
Posted by: joncelli at November 05, 2009 04:53 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: spypeach at November 05, 2009 04:54 PM (qsM1Q)
Posted by: Jai at November 05, 2009 04:54 PM (8K2ZC)
Posted by: Anonymous at November 05, 2009 04:54 PM (B5cM9)
Why, thats awfully racist...
Posted by: Mike In BA at November 05, 2009 04:54 PM (1hSHv)
Posted by: moron # 2346215 at November 05, 2009 04:54 PM (p1s9n)
Hmm. Should I be reaching for my tinfoil hat?
Posted by: Anachronda at November 05, 2009 04:55 PM (1OYcp)
Posted by: RobD at November 05, 2009 04:55 PM (sV3Dv)
Posted by: Salem at November 05, 2009 04:55 PM (86rbG)
Posted by: Monty at November 05, 2009 04:55 PM (4Pleu)
Posted by: maddogg at November 05, 2009 04:55 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: SFC MAC at November 05, 2009 04:55 PM (cuNX0)
Posted by: unknown jane at November 05, 2009 04:55 PM (5/yRG)
Posted by: George Orwell at November 05, 2009 04:55 PM (/WLDq)
Posted by: Prayerborne at November 05, 2009 04:55 PM (rKqFf)
Posted by: Max Power at November 05, 2009 04:56 PM (q177U)
Posted by: concious, but incoherent at November 05, 2009 04:56 PM (kn+jW)
That thought just popped into my head. Muslim officer pulls two muslim enlisted men with him to new post, get activation orders. But, as many have said: way too early.
Posted by: joncelli at November 05, 2009 04:56 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 04:56 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 05, 2009 04:56 PM (zmiSr)
Posted by: moron # 23461345 at November 05, 2009 04:56 PM (p1s9n)
Posted by: spypeach at November 05, 2009 04:56 PM (qsM1Q)
Don't forget the ban on firearm ownership by law-abiding civilians.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 05, 2009 04:56 PM (NtiET)
Posted by: Mr. Teresa Heinz - Kerry at November 05, 2009 04:57 PM (/WLDq)
Posted by: Jewells at November 05, 2009 04:57 PM (l/N7H)
Posted by: RobD at November 05, 2009 04:57 PM (sV3Dv)
Posted by: SFC MAC at November 05, 2009 04:57 PM (cuNX0)
Posted by: Heather at November 05, 2009 04:57 PM (llFcs)
Barack the Boy King is going to get us all killed.
Posted by: DelD at November 05, 2009 04:58 PM (bEN5w)
Sleeper cell?
That thought just popped into my head. Muslim officer pulls two muslim enlisted men with him to new post, get activation orders. But, as many have said: way too early.
If it was something that elaborate, I would think they'd do something bigger, not just shoot up the place. Not that this isn't tragic, but it could have been a lot worse if they planted bombs, got their hands on something biological, etc...
Posted by: yinzer at November 05, 2009 04:58 PM (/Mla1)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 04:58 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Mr. Teresa Heinz - Kerry at November 05, 2009 04:58 PM (/WLDq)
Posted by: Derak at November 05, 2009 04:58 PM (lLxSN)
So was the fucker that rolled the grenade in Kuwait [2003].
And yes, he was a muzzie.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 05, 2009 04:59 PM (lYKj1)
Posted by: moron # 23461345 at November 05, 2009 04:56 PM (p1s9n)
rejected by whom?
Posted by: Mike In BA at November 05, 2009 04:59 PM (1hSHv)
Posted by: reason at November 05, 2009 04:59 PM (kZVsz)
Posted by: John ryan at November 05, 2009 05:00 PM (m0Q2u)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 05, 2009 05:00 PM (zmiSr)
Posted by: Scott J. at November 05, 2009 04:38 PM (NY7mQ)
Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at November 05, 2009 05:00 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: maddogg at November 05, 2009 05:00 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Mr. Teresa Heinz - Kerry at November 05, 2009 05:01 PM (/WLDq)
These muzzie bastards need to learn right fast they ain't in Europe. They need to know we will kill them, fast. In spite of who's president.
Posted by: Dave at November 05, 2009 05:01 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: moron # 3245341 at November 05, 2009 05:01 PM (p1s9n)
I'm a former U.S. Army Infantryman, with a whole lot of time in the dirt, and a couple of combat tours under my belt.
My OPINION is that this is a terror attack.
Why is that my OPINION?
Because if I was going to go on a rampage, I'd go into my company area and pop people that have pissed me off over the years. Top, CO, that bastard XO, etc.
You don't go into an area for pre-deployment paperwork and start popping people. Do you KNOW these people?
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 05:01 PM (hA5JK)
Posted by: Greg Q at November 05, 2009 05:01 PM (87k2j)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 05:01 PM (p302b)
Posted by: nyc redneck at November 05, 2009 05:01 PM (XEuxK)
Posted by: Todd (the guy who is back to saying Obama sucks cock) at November 05, 2009 05:02 PM (LLOGQ)
Posted by: Monty at November 05, 2009 05:02 PM (4Pleu)
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 05:02 PM (hA5JK)
Posted by: Salem at November 05, 2009 05:03 PM (86rbG)
And if they are then it's terrorism although no one in the government or in the liberal media will ever admit to it.
Posted by: TRO at November 05, 2009 05:03 PM (q4WFG)
452, Mike,
Rejected by the so-called mainstream, peaceful (arabic) muslims. My point is that black converts tend to be easier to radicalize.
Posted by: moron # 34513254 at November 05, 2009 05:03 PM (p1s9n)
Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 05:03 PM (sey23)
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 05:03 PM (dwwPD)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 05:03 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 05:03 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: d at November 05, 2009 05:03 PM (uTknY)
Posted by: Berserker at November 05, 2009 05:03 PM (gWHrG)
Don't make me start listing all the events that haven't been terrorism in this country.
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 05, 2009 05:03 PM (Be4xl)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 05:04 PM (eXZjc)
Posted by: Who Knows at November 05, 2009 05:04 PM (7FgWm)
And FUCK ME.... if he didn't just say 'I want to give a shout out to.....'
What... the..... fuck
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 05:04 PM (hA5JK)
Posted by: freemo at November 05, 2009 05:04 PM (S0JeQ)
Hoe-Lee-Shit. Those jugears are made of tin.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 05, 2009 05:04 PM (DPM1U)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 05:04 PM (eXZjc)
Posted by: Kanye West at November 05, 2009 05:04 PM (sey23)
Posted by: B fucking O at November 05, 2009 05:04 PM (QXKjZ)
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 05:02 PM (hA5JK)
Beck had his apendix taken out
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 05, 2009 05:04 PM (TfW4T)
Posted by: djarnold at November 05, 2009 05:04 PM (zTMpb)
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 05, 2009 05:05 PM (dwwPD)
Posted by: jas at November 05, 2009 05:05 PM (u1GB/)
Posted by: trailortrash at November 05, 2009 05:05 PM (2Z+7j)
Posted by: fixerupper at November 05, 2009 05:05 PM (J5Hcw)
Posted by: John ryan at November 05, 2009 05:05 PM (m0Q2u)
Who else was expecting him to say the U.S. Military acted stupidly?
Posted by: Z Ryan at November 05, 2009 05:05 PM (cMo6P)
Posted by: d at November 05, 2009 05:05 PM (uTknY)
Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 05:05 PM (sey23)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 05, 2009 05:06 PM (NtiET)
Posted by: SFC MAC at November 05, 2009 05:06 PM (cuNX0)
How can he, after saying this, continue with a regularly scheduled speech? It just should be canceled, that is the classy thing to do.
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 05:06 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 05, 2009 05:06 PM (+r2rh)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 05:06 PM (eXZjc)
Jesus H. Christ on a Crutch!
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 05:06 PM (hA5JK)
431 If this is a sleeper cell in the military, Obastard will move heaven and earth to bury this story.
Don't know about that. What better way to cast doubt on the integrity of the military and hasten his "civillian defense force"?
Posted by: Scott J. at November 05, 2009 05:06 PM (NY7mQ)
Posted by: Berserker at November 05, 2009 05:06 PM (gWHrG)
Posted by: marine43 at November 05, 2009 05:07 PM (R5s2m)
This is Barry's army now. He owns it. He campaigned on getting serious about war in Afghanistan and going hell for leather after UBL and al-Qaeda. He even threatened to invade Pakistan.
These are his armed forces, and he is responsible for their behavior. We were told this about Bush, and now it's time for Barry's Abu Ghraib at Fort Hood. This belongs to Obastard, lock stock and barrel.
Posted by: George Orwell at November 05, 2009 05:07 PM (/WLDq)
Posted by: Dang Straights at November 05, 2009 05:07 PM (ghfZz)
Posted by: moron # 2346115 at November 05, 2009 05:07 PM (p1s9n)
Posted by: thedriver at November 05, 2009 05:07 PM (eXZjc)
Posted by: nyc redneck at November 05, 2009 05:07 PM (XEuxK)
Posted by: DelD at November 05, 2009 05:07 PM (bEN5w)
Posted by: trailortrash at November 05, 2009 05:07 PM (2Z+7j)
Posted by: djarnold at November 05, 2009 05:07 PM (zTMpb)
Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 05:07 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: Salem at November 05, 2009 05:07 PM (86rbG)
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 05:07 PM (hA5JK)
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2009 05:07 PM (PjevJ)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at November 05, 2009 05:08 PM (ruzrP)
Posted by: freemo at November 05, 2009 05:08 PM (S0JeQ)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 05:08 PM (p302b)
Even if one of the shooters had an Arabic sounding name and his body shaved with the Koran in his pocket, there is no reason to believe this was terror related.
Allah Akbar
Posted by: B H Obama at November 05, 2009 05:08 PM (6mfq0)
If they're white Americans, we'll be told we have to round up every white male in the country and shut down Fox News and talk radio.
Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2009 05:08 PM (sYxEE)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 05, 2009 05:08 PM (zmiSr)
Posted by: Dave at November 05, 2009 05:08 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: ginaswo/MiM at November 05, 2009 05:08 PM (rqNJx)
Posted by: John ryan at November 05, 2009 05:00 PM (m0Q2u)
We blame the closet muslim-in-chief.
Posted by: SFC MAC at November 05, 2009 05:09 PM (cuNX0)
Where is George Bush?
Posted by: non_dhimmie at November 05, 2009 05:09 PM (cFwGO)
Posted by: Who Knows at November 05, 2009 05:09 PM (7FgWm)
That prick (who murdered my brother's friend) did get the death penalty. Under the UCMJ, there won't be 20 years of appeals. He'll get the juice, sooner rather than later.
Posted by: moron # 234611 at November 05, 2009 05:09 PM (p1s9n)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 05:09 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Gerry at November 05, 2009 05:09 PM (iiwJV)
Posted by: J. Moses Browning at November 05, 2009 05:09 PM (3G4di)
Posted by: jas at November 05, 2009 05:09 PM (u1GB/)
Posted by: Spud at November 05, 2009 05:10 PM (iaMr2)
"I don't know what I expected from my President on a day of utter tragedy for our serving men and women -- but whatever that little speech was, it wun't it."
DOES HE NOT CARE??
Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 05:10 PM (3sdjL)
Oh, and here is fucking SHEP on the PTSD!
Hey, dickhead!
I HAVE FUCKING PTSD!!!
Shut the fuck up!
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 05:10 PM (hA5JK)
Let me say for the record that I regret every bad thing I ever said about that man. He may have screwed the pooch on the economy, but he we a Leader and a good President.
Posted by: jcp at November 05, 2009 05:10 PM (DHNp4)
Posted by: Shannon at November 05, 2009 05:10 PM (niZOC)
Posted by: Tex at November 05, 2009 05:11 PM (73eJg)
How's about chasing down the rumor about the Major with the Arabic name, you fucking fuck.
Posted by: DelD at November 05, 2009 05:11 PM (bEN5w)
Posted by: GregInSeattle at November 05, 2009 05:11 PM (B5cM9)
If they're white Americans, we'll be told we have to round up every white male in the country and shut down Fox News and talk radio.
I wish you were joking.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 05, 2009 05:11 PM (NtiET)
Posted by: Quaker oats man at November 05, 2009 05:11 PM (sey23)
http://mfile.akamai.com/23079/live/reflector:33916.asx?bkup=35208
Good work, scrubjay.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at November 05, 2009 05:11 PM (1hM1d)
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at November 05, 2009 05:11 PM (2pjaO)
Posted by: dan in michigan at November 05, 2009 05:11 PM (88w67)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 05:12 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Ranba Ral at November 05, 2009 05:12 PM (atxR0)
See? It wasn't terrorism.
Posted by: Typical DUmmy from DU at November 05, 2009 05:12 PM (/WLDq)
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 05:12 PM (hA5JK)
Posted by: maddogg at November 05, 2009 05:12 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Shep at November 05, 2009 05:12 PM (MMC8r)
Hats off to Fox--the other networks probably didn't break in until after the Won had done his fist pump. Fox covered it from the start for a full-on display of his sociopathy.
This isn't the scale of 9/11 but it will have a very similar chilling effect on military bases.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 05, 2009 05:12 PM (DPM1U)
Posted by: Zimriel at November 05, 2009 05:12 PM (rtzHA)
That dirtbag sucker-of-cock sheppy smith is pushing the PTSD angle...no matter, the nutroots will be overjoyed on this day.
Posted by: Uncle Jefe at November 05, 2009 05:12 PM (CMPXK)
Posted by: Mallamutt at November 05, 2009 05:13 PM (V9SYy)
It's Jihad. You could not convince me otherwise. I can think of no other motivation for a coordinated attack of this magnitude.
Peoople said the same thing immediately after Oklahoma City.
Chill- we don't know one way or the other yet.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 05, 2009 05:13 PM (plsiE)
I can't take 3 years of this. Where's my October Surprise?
Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 05:13 PM (3sdjL)
Posted by: Dave at November 05, 2009 05:13 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 05, 2009 05:13 PM (/WLDq)
...and that's the last we'll hear of that.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 05, 2009 05:13 PM (NtiET)
Posted by: Salem at November 05, 2009 05:14 PM (86rbG)
Yes, today is my birthday.
It sucks.
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 05:14 PM (hA5JK)
Posted by: maddogg at November 05, 2009 05:14 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Derak at November 05, 2009 05:14 PM (lLxSN)
C'mon, just a little punch-drunk on all the bad news!
Posted by: Barack Obama at November 05, 2009 05:14 PM (kZVsz)
Posted by: moron # 2345134 at November 05, 2009 05:15 PM (p1s9n)
Posted by: Ranba Ral at November 05, 2009 05:15 PM (atxR0)
I wish you misheard it, but it's true. The asshole in chief gave a f***ing shout out.
Posted by: Elizabeth at November 05, 2009 05:15 PM (hA5JK)
Posted by: Salem at November 05, 2009 05:15 PM (86rbG)
And now the post gets updated indicating it probably was a jihadi.
That does nothing to change the fact that this is horrible.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 05, 2009 05:15 PM (plsiE)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 05, 2009 05:15 PM (zmiSr)
Posted by: Zimriel at November 05, 2009 05:15 PM (rtzHA)
"No greater honor and responsibility for me than to make sure that the extraordinary men and women in uniform enjoy the safety and security when they are at home."--Obama
When they are home, yet no concern for them when they are abroad? Obama's tone of voice, accentuation and disjointed meter of delivery is horrific. Where's the TOTUS when the nation needs a comfortingly smooth baritone voice? Time past due for Obama's decision.
Wouldn't it be awful if the murderers at Ft. Hood use Obama's dawdling as their motivation?
Maj. Hassam--flash, rot in hell.
Posted by: Beto at November 05, 2009 05:15 PM (F1b/5)
Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 05:15 PM (3sdjL)
Posted by: bulwark at November 05, 2009 05:15 PM (jvrmc)
http:// abcnews.go.com /WN/ soldiers-killed-fort-hood-shooting/story?id=9007938
Take out the spaces.
Posted by: Charles Manson at November 05, 2009 05:15 PM (lhxhu)
Posted by: nyc redneck at November 05, 2009 05:16 PM (XEuxK)
Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at November 05, 2009 05:16 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: shibuimi at November 05, 2009 05:16 PM (OKZrE)
Posted by: curious at November 05, 2009 05:16 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 05:16 PM (hA5JK)
Posted by: wherestherum at November 05, 2009 05:16 PM (GZnia)
I'd love to see how the liberals who spent 8 years bleating about Bush's immediate response to 9/11 try to spin this.
Posted by: freemo at November 05, 2009 05:16 PM (S0JeQ)
hannity just read a supposed name of one of the shooters. sounds like an irish catholic boy.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at November 05, 2009 05:16 PM (cniXs)
In front of a group of Tribal Nations.
He closes his remarks with:
(the Christian) God Bless You!
(the Christian) God Bless America (or, more succinctly, not you.)!
Most well cultured Presimadent, ever.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at November 05, 2009 05:17 PM (ruzrP)
I know you're very sensitive, so you may have been taken aback by your president's apparent jocularity while he was giving the "shout out" to the crowd just now.
I want you to sit in a quiet room, light your incense, and keep chanting Hope and Change until you regain your tranquil state.
Posted by: Joe Biden, "life coach" at November 05, 2009 05:17 PM (sey23)
Posted by: whatever at November 05, 2009 05:17 PM (XIXhw)
Posted by: sirsurfalot at November 05, 2009 05:17 PM (8qD01)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 05, 2009 05:17 PM (/WLDq)
UGH. But don't worry. I'm sure it'll be like the Beltway Snipers, one of whom was a convert to the Nation of Islam, not that you would ever really know it given the toned-down coverage of that facet of his resumé on MSM.
Mohammed? Hassan? ...Hussein. It's all good these days.
Posted by: Victoria at November 05, 2009 05:18 PM (3sdjL)
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 05:18 PM (hA5JK)
Posted by: gil at November 05, 2009 05:19 PM (hegAY)
Did the FBI actually say there's no reason to suspect terrorism?
Apparently it's only "terrorism" if the perpetrators belong to an organization such as AQ. Otherwise- nope. Nothing to see here. Move along. Ignore the fact that they had the exact same motivations regardless of whether they were part of an organized cell.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 05, 2009 05:19 PM (plsiE)
Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 05:19 PM (VuLos)
What, are you twelve? Learn everything you know about the military from Hollywood?
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 05, 2009 05:19 PM (ZJ/un)
Simple.
Well, those were probably white children he was reading. They could take it. Bush should have leapt to his feet and screamed "we're under attack."
The Indians Native Americans are scarred from years of oppression at the hands of whitey.
Posted by: Talking Points at November 05, 2009 05:19 PM (sey23)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 05, 2009 05:20 PM (/WLDq)
Ws Obama coming on to talk about this attack specifically? If so then the shout out is pretty damn tasteless.
Dirty little fucking socialist.
Posted by: Old Texas Turkey at November 05, 2009 05:20 PM (edQ4y)
What is this, 8th grade "graduation"?
what a fuckstick.
and that Irish Catholic name was before the conversion, I'm betting
Posted by: moron # 1234591 at November 05, 2009 05:20 PM (p1s9n)
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Happy Birthday. I'm sorry this had to happen at all, much less on your birthday.
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Posted by: George Orwell at November 05, 2009 05:22 PM (/WLDq)
Yes, today is my birthday.
It sucks.
It's really not personal. We'll just have to celebrate tomorrow, 'kay? Having been on our base today and then driven through tornado damage to get home, I'm going to start getting really paranoid really soon. Time for me to turn off the computer and play with the kids.
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Now that BO has done it too, I think I get it.
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Posted by: Tex at November 05, 2009 05:23 PM (73eJg)
and TOTUS thanked the audience and Ken Salazar and talked and laughed for mins before he mentioned the shooting
it made me ill
Posted by: ginaswo/MiM at November 05, 2009 05:23 PM (rqNJx)
Ya know, when the only person who hears laughter is yourself, you may want to get help.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 05, 2009 05:24 PM (ZJ/un)
Only chatted about 5 minutes total, bought a drink for them, watched some karaoke.
He was at their wedding, but we were at separate tables.
Posted by: moron # 23451235 at November 05, 2009 05:24 PM (p1s9n)
It's Arabic in origin, a variant of Malak which apparently means Angel.
http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Malik
Posted by: Elizabeth at November 05, 2009 05:24 PM (hA5JK)
Posted by: slob at November 05, 2009 05:25 PM (i1+rx)
As to President Zero, well, he's proven time and time again how much of a leader he is NOT. I miss Bush. If teh Won's response is going to be lukewarm to a terrorist attack like this, I shudder to think what would happen when (not if) 9/11 part deux happens.
Posted by: wherestherum at November 05, 2009 05:25 PM (GZnia)
Posted by: Joe at November 05, 2009 05:25 PM (YwBI6)
If we change our legislative agenda, the terrorists will have won?
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re: last night. I take back everything I said..
SiM
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Soldier on soldier violence
PTSD soldiers falling through the cracks
Nothing about any muslim sounding names...
If the guys were white thats all we would be hearing about.
Posted by: schneedoo at November 05, 2009 05:27 PM (KNCWm)
I'd prefer it that way.
Love you all.
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 05:28 PM (hA5JK)
Posted by: Gerry at November 05, 2009 05:09 PM (iiwJV)
He won't be Malik Hassan very long. Muslim converts who do stuff like this are known by their pre-Muslim name. Cf. Jose Padilla.
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Posted by: Elizabeth at November 05, 2009 05:28 PM (hA5JK)
Ouch.
I don't disagree though.
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Posted by: Zimriel at November 05, 2009 05:29 PM (rtzHA)
you got that right. If Heinrick Tieffenbach and Joey Gallomino did the shooting, we'd never hear anything but for the next 5 days. Let's see how many times Maj Asshole's name gets mentioned
Posted by: moron # 354235 at November 05, 2009 05:29 PM (p1s9n)
I googled name origin malik and click on the first link that popped up. That's where my info comes from. God knows I don't know any damn Arabic.
Posted by: Elizabeth at November 05, 2009 05:29 PM (hA5JK)
It took me about six months to adjust to the reality when the words "the president" were spoken, they were being used in reference to the ass Obama. I had to keep reminding myself Bush wasn't president anymore.
Posted by: nightwitch at November 05, 2009 05:30 PM (YVMan)
Weren't the Ft. Dix Six black to Muslim converts as well? I find it interesting there are so many black willing to convert to the religion that sold them as slaves a little more than a century ago. And are currently murdering other Africans in the Sudan.
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I think it's right that The One™ should acknowledge a CMH recipient at this event.
I don't think that it's right that he should do it by showing how hip he is via a "shout-out". It demeans the Office of The President.
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I still have to pause and take a minute to remember who's president when I hear "the White House" or "the president." And it amazes me how much I dread now hearing what comes out of the White House whereas before I didn't have an opinion either way.
Posted by: wherestherum at November 05, 2009 05:32 PM (GZnia)
Posted by: Zimriel at November 05, 2009 05:33 PM (rtzHA)
He was just practicing his religion. Nothing to see here...move a along bitches.
Posted by: Master Baiter at November 05, 2009 05:34 PM (GfYt/)
I don't think that it's right that he should do it by showing how hip he is via a "shout-out". It demeans the Office of The President.
Posted by: David in San Diego at November 05, 2009 05:31 PM (GF+6V)
You think it right that he acknowledge a CMH recipient, talk about affordable healthcare for the group he's speaking to and THEN talk about the tragedy at Ft. Hood?
Wow.
Posted by: Tami at November 05, 2009 05:34 PM (VuLos)
He doesn't want to say the name.
Hutch doesn't want to say the name because of his family.
Shep at least said 'the name says a lot, doesn't it?'
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Posted by: schneedoo at November 05, 2009 05:34 PM (KNCWm)
Posted by: maddogg at November 05, 2009 05:35 PM (OlN4e)
A lot of blacks convert to Islam in our prison system. Is that how AQ is recruiting people now?
Posted by: wherestherum at November 05, 2009 05:35 PM (GZnia)
Mortis, I was born on D Day. It's cool having a birthday on a significant day, isn't it?
Hey, me too. What's up my gemini sistah.
The fact that this mutt is a convert will the flushed down the memory hole by 6pm EST. It's clearly not relevant to the facts by this admins definition.
And are you people who are wondering why the troops are walking around unarmed serious? Quit watching so many damn movies.
Posted by: Dang Straights at November 05, 2009 05:35 PM (ghfZz)
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Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 05, 2009 05:36 PM (Qt4Y7)
I'm sitting here watching him with Hutchenson, and he's too chicken to say the name because "the name says a lot."
Posted by: DKShideler at November 05, 2009 05:36 PM (kb2q5)
The guy was a MAJOR. He could chuck his commission and leave.
He didn't want to deploy?
My ass.....
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Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 05, 2009 05:37 PM (/WLDq)
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 05, 2009 05:37 PM (6yEzu)
I think Shep shit his pants.
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Posted by: SFC MAC at November 05, 2009 05:38 PM (cuNX0)
The guy was a MAJOR. He could chuck his commission and leave.
He didn't want to deploy?
Yeah, I'm not buying that load of horsecrap at all.
Posted by: Dang Straights at November 05, 2009 05:38 PM (ghfZz)
My ass.....
If he simply didn't want to deploy he could have shot himself (or done several other things). This goes far beyond not wanting to deploy.
Posted by: Elizabeth at November 05, 2009 05:38 PM (hA5JK)
Don't put words into my posts!
Any CiC should acknowledge the presence of a CMH winner at any event where the former is a speaker.
Timing was poor also. But then The One™ has always been an ass. And I don't think I've ever posted anything to the contrary on and posting.
Posted by: David in San Diego at November 05, 2009 05:38 PM (GF+6V)
Get the Story at all costs! Unless its related to radical Islam, in which case, do not report facts you've confirmed from multiple places.
Posted by: DKShideler at November 05, 2009 05:39 PM (kb2q5)
and also that no one scrubs the video of the "shout-out" it's so telling.
Posted by: d at November 05, 2009 05:40 PM (uTknY)
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 05, 2009 05:41 PM (6yEzu)
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Posted by: Master Baiter at November 05, 2009 05:41 PM (GfYt/)
A "shout out" is not standard protocol.
Something more respectable and mature is called for. It's not the fucking MTV Music Awards.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 05, 2009 05:41 PM (ZJ/un)
Shep's waiting to get an interview with the CAIR spox first, and then he'll start using the name.
I mean, he is Cap'n Fair & Balanced like that, right?
Posted by: Barack Obama at November 05, 2009 05:42 PM (XiVKO)
Posted by: GregInSeattle at November 05, 2009 05:42 PM (B5cM9)
How about you say that, Shep?
You know, because it's not that big of a fucking stretch, Shep.
Maybe you can use some of that logic thing.
Posted by: Mortis at November 05, 2009 05:43 PM (hA5JK)
So when will we hear the MSM whine about Obama giving a shout out and barely mentioning the incident like we did about Bush on 9/11 continuing to read to the school kids?
I won't hold my breath.
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Posted by: jcp at November 05, 2009 05:46 PM (DHNp4)
Therefore, move along, nothing to see, no big deal.
Keep reminding people of this, and his amateur-night handling of it. Make liberals squirm with embarassment every time they hear the word "November" or "Major" or "Hood."
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 05, 2009 05:46 PM (6yEzu)
Posted by: Girl Thursday at November 05, 2009 05:46 PM (jdH7A)
Damn, wtr, you've got nice gams for a senior.
Sorry, trying for a bit of levity.
24 hour rule and all, but in this case the 24 hours will be the time it takes for this dude to go by his msm-sanctioned "former" name, a la the DC sniper.
Posted by: whatever at November 05, 2009 05:48 PM (XIXhw)
Seriously, if this doesn't get me fired so I can get some free cred, you're gonna come back from a commercial break next week to me taking a dump in the middle of the studio floor, and wiping my ass with a picture of Patty Ann Brown.
Try me, Murdoch!
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Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 05:56 PM (sey23)
Saw something saying he was a recent convert to Islam. Not sure how true that is. Other two shooters in custody but not yet ID'd. Or at least their names haven't been released yet. Funny how the Feds claimed it wasn't terrorism related ten minutes after it happened. Three gunmen in a coordinated shooting wasn't random. It could hagve been drug or gang related. But claiming it wasn't terrorism related was stupid. Or maybe I should say SOP.
But since there is no "War on Terrorism". Guess this is a "Domestic Contingency Operation" related incident.
Posted by: Waste at November 05, 2009 05:56 PM (KHM8y)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 05, 2009 05:57 PM (RZ8pf)
Can this be made to serve Obama's agenda?
It can in so many ways.
Hurt the military? *check*
Gun control? *check*
Link to W's foreign policy? *check*
Posted by: Scott J. at November 05, 2009 05:58 PM (NY7mQ)
And we don't know about the other two yet. They're just in custody.
Posted by: whatever at November 05, 2009 05:58 PM (XIXhw)
Pretense for speech on bridging our divides and healing our differences? *check*
Posted by: whatever at November 05, 2009 06:00 PM (XIXhw)
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Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg, FBI at November 05, 2009 06:04 PM (w7yhb)
Posted by: concious, but incoherent at November 05, 2009 06:04 PM (kn+jW)
I don't see it. Hurt the military? If it had been anyone but a Muslim, maybe. But President Hussein is going to have to show folks he's not the ultimate sleeper agent, and that means good stuff for the Army.
Gun control? "Disarm the Scary Black Men" won't play well to his base.
Link to W? Again, pretty thin. Unless Major Malik claims that as his motive, it's not going to convince anyone who doesn't already have a rainbow "O" tattooed on her thigh.
Far, far better to just drop it.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 05, 2009 06:05 PM (6yEzu)
Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 06:06 PM (sey23)
retired office on fox says: it was a deliberate act, it was execution style, it was not a random act of violence, it was not PTSD
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@ 697
Problem is they always say this. When it is shown to be false it erodes their credibility. It's far easier to say "no cmment" or "it's under investigation".
Posted by: Waste at November 05, 2009 06:11 PM (KHM8y)
Maj Gen Robert Scales (Ret)
Posted by: Y-not at November 05, 2009 06:09 PM (sey23)
Yes. Thank you. I wasn't able to catch his name. I was busy typing what he was saying.
Posted by: concious, but incoherent at November 05, 2009 06:12 PM (kn+jW)
Posted by: sirsurfalot at November 05, 2009 06:16 PM (8qD01)
Hey, I sure as hell didn't want to show up for this, damn it.
Where's my body from last night's flame war? Don't remember much, did Ace sell it again?
Looks like the religion of peace has another wonderful martyr.
Fuck head, go to hell!
Posted by: The Skull at November 05, 2009 06:17 PM (2+9Yx)
Move along, nothing to see here...
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What makes you think he's not?
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President Punchdrunk was giving a speech at a conference sponsored by the Department of the Interior in honor of Native American Indians. First, he paid tribute to his cabinet and senior administration officials, and give a "shout out" to a Congressional Medal of Honor winner, as he put it. (Military Awards and Decorations are received, not "won", you assclown).
Then he droned on about them having an "extremely productive conference"...and giving his "solemn guarantee that this is not the end of a process, but the beginning of the process" and that "we are going to follow up....every single member of my team understands that this is a top priority for us...this is not something that we just give lip service to...and we are going to keep on working with you to make sure that the first Americans get the best possible chance in life...blah...blah...blah..."
About 2 minutes and 25 seconds into the speech he finally gets to the part about the Fort Hood massacre. He really knows how to work a crowd.
What an idiot. Can you imagine this shit-for-brains during a 9/11-type attack?
Obama: "First I'd like to give a shout out to all my muslim brothers at CAIR, the Arab-American Action Network, The Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, and a big 'word to the brutha' Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, for his re-election."....Oh and by the way, there's been a "man-caused disaster" .....details are sketchy....Joe, tell 'em to fire up Air Force One, I have to go on another apology tour....
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the shooter is alive.
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Fucking WaPo is trying to spin this already. Pointing out that Ft. Hood has the highest number of suicides (It stands to reason that the largest army base might have the highest number of suicides, just by sheer numbers), and claiming that those who treate people with PTSD develop symptoms themselves. With the headline "Fort Hood has felt the strain of repeated deployments," as if this conveniently excuses all this asshole did.
I'm feeling even worse learning this piece of shit survived. I'm sure he'll only get a few years in prison, or plead insanity. And I'm sure the ALCU and CAIR have already gotten his legal counsel in place.
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George Bush Slices Don Rumsfeld Like an F*ckin' Hammer
Democratic Forays into Erotica
New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network
Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes
Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse
Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party"
Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad
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Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry
NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom
Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
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