1 He's right about one thing: If Hoffman had won, it would have been a big plus for Palin. And that means that his loss hurt Palin.

2
the Scooz was gonna lose to Owens, anyway

Hoffman made it very close.

3

Are you all giddy about last night's results? 

You probably should still be pissed the hell off.

Why?  $82,600,000 dollars for volunteering in Calif. that's why.

http://tinyurl.com/ylldgnl

4

George is the most reasoned, non-partisan political opinionator on T.V.

We are lucky to have him looking out for us.

5 How does my ass taste mr. peerez?

6 The Civil War line again.  Kos unwittingly created the perfect canary trap.

7 maybe you could give them that old everythingsawesome blog. sounds like all they want is happy talk.

8 Unbelievable.  You'd think that with the public's trust of the MSM at an all time low, they at least attempt to be objective with a story that can't be spun for Obama. But no, they keep digging that whole even deeper.

I wonder at what point they reach the other end and are in China?

9
since about the Civil War.

History for liberal idiots:  U.S. Civil War 1988-1993. 

This is the third place I've seen this lie referenced, jornolist must have been hopping last night.

10 George Stephanopopopolopoulos is objective. Fox News is biased.

11
NY-23 was about principle over party.

Hoffmann was a distant 3rd long shot until his endorsement from Palin/Thompson/Armey. He shot up in the last week and lost by 2 points?

The big loser in NY-23? The GOP. They spent $900,000 on Dede Scozzofava to have her endorse the Democrat.

Conservatism won the battle against the RINO/GOP hoards.

12 Did we expect anything less from this guy? He's a left wing hack!

13 Steph is an idiot.  And that's being polite.  He twists himself into a pretzel in order to justify DNC talking points.

14 To the media: if you have to work this hard to find good news for your ideological soul mate....there is no good news.

15 We agree. Plus, she's a bitch.

16 Whoever's go their hand up the little Greek puppet's ass isn't doing a very good job anymore.

17

This only looks good for Sarah Palin....she outed a terrible candidate in her Party and that point was proven when Scuzzywuzzy threw her support behind the Democrat. 

If anything she is more popular than ever....she is the outsider, the one who is going "hey, wait a minute....".  She also got a whole slew of other Repubs to fall in line behind her.  I laugh at anyone who thinks she doesn't even wield more power now than before.

18 From Palin's facebook:

A Victory for Common Sense and Fiscal Sanity

Yesterday at 9:43pm

Congratulations to the new Governors-Elect of Virginia and New Jersey! I’d also like to offer a special word of support to the new Lieutenant Governor-Elect of New Jersey, Kim Guadagno, the first woman to hold that office.

Of course, the real victors in this election are the ordinary men and women who voted for positive change and a return to fiscal sanity. Your voices have been heard.

The race for New York’s 23rd District is not over, just postponed until 2010. The issues of this election have always centered on the economy – on the need for fiscal restraint, smaller government, and policies that encourage jobs. In 2010, these issues will be even more crucial to the electorate. I commend Doug Hoffman and all the other under-dog candidates who have the courage to put themselves out there and run against the odds.

To the tireless grassroots patriots who worked so hard in that race and to future citizen-candidates like Doug, please remember Reagan’s words of encouragement after his defeat in 1976:

“The cause goes on. Don't get cynical because look at yourselves and what you were willing to do, and recognize that there are millions and millions of Americans out there that want what you want, that want it to be that way, that want it to be a shining city on a hill.”

The cause goes on.

- Sarah Palin

19
Pelosi dropped the Civil War line, too.  It must resonate in their empty heads, being all historical and stuff.

20 Pure fantasy.

21

Good point, Ace. Nothing like a little double standard in your morning coffee.

One lump or two?

22

Searching archives. Have yet to see any significant member of the media describe the LaMont-Liebermann primary as a civil war.  But, they are objective, I am sure it is here, I just have to keep looking.

23 Still looking.............

24 Note to George Snuffleuppugus, Google ain't THAT hard to use.
http://tinyurl.com/yknjdog

25 I'm pretty sure whatever Stephie puts in his hair has finally penetrated into his skull and begun eating his brain. Or else he was a useless, unprincipled hack all along. Either way, really.

26 The Civil War is in the Democratic Party and it will be the bloodiest, because they eat their own. 

27

When Republicans win, it's because of the economy. When Republicans lose, it's because of their stands on social issues. When Democrats win, it's because of their stands on social issues. When Democrats lose, it's because of the economy.

Got that? Good. Commit it to memory. If anyone asks who told you to say it deny, deny, deny!

So did George Stephasshatalous say that Democratic victories last year were all because of the economy? Refer to paragraph 1.

28 It's hard to believe but it's a good thing the MSM is getting more obvious with it's bias. We aren't going to change them. We just need to keep expanding the number of people who realize what the MSM are.

29 Getting rid of DeDe was the victory. Owens is better then DeDe. DeDe would have given Nancy a bi-partisan, pink gloss to the shit she has been serving up. Someone send Stephie the 1993 results for NY23.

30

The media have realized that they can maniplate the beltway GOP. They are out in full force trying to get them to support RINOs.

It is obviously easier to govern when the other party is merely a light version of your own.

Enough of this independent/moderate crap. This is a culture ware between marxism and liberty. Moderates are merely morons who fail to take it seriously. Rush is right in having no respect for the moderates who theoretically wishy-washy between the two parties.

31 The spin is shameful. Pelosi even said the Dems won last night. Um, OK. Denial must be such a wondrous place to be.

32

I don't see how this is a "big" loss for Palin.

First, she greatly aided in throwing out an ultra liberal Republican who may very well have switched parties in the House and would've voted for cap and trade, the healthcare bill and card check. It would've been a disaster if Scozzafava ended up winning. Instead, a moderate Dem was put in as a benchwarmer for a year and if I'm not mistaken specifically ran against the public option. A Republican candidate will have a good chance of unseating him in 2010.

Second, Obama pushed hard for the candidates in VA and NJ and walked away with bumpkiss. It'll illogical to claim that Palin, who only sent out FB posts and a little money in support of her candidates, suffered a big loss while Obama, who made mulitple personal appearances and threw in loads of money, did not. This tap dancing bullshit would shame Gene Kelly. Scozzafava's endorsement of Owens and her district's switch to him sealed Hoffman's fate. The real loser here is the local GOP officials who believed this woman was a legit Repub and the NRCC who put up money for her and attack ads against Hoffman. Fuck them and that horse they bet on.

33 So is the Atlanta mayoral race a civil war, or does that story get conventiently forgotten?

34

#26:  The Civil War is in the Democratic Party and it will be the bloodiest, because they eat their own.

Well, not literally; at least I don't think so.

(By the way, is my li'l disagreement with Cooper part of this "civil war" I keep reading about?)

35

24 Note to George Snuffleuppugus, Google ain't THAT hard to use.
http://tinyurl.com/yknjdog

Maybe we need to correct the wiki article to better reflect the truth the media is presenting.

36 Hey, peeps - you can congratulate me!

My first ban from Hotair.

For criticizing Morrisey's anti-Israel lunacy and general fact-munching at foreign policy. I feel so warm and fuzzy.

37 There was a Civil War in 1993 ???

I'm all over it.

38

POST Election drinking game

take a shot every time you hear "a district that has not gone to the Democrats since about the Civil War"

 

also, how does Sarah Palin lose when she is not on the ballot, not a candidate, and is not a resident in the states where the special elections were held?

Don't answer. It was a rhetorical question.

39 I find it miraculous that George can speak at all since his mouth is full of chocolate munchkins.

40

We all knew what was coming from the Dems for spin. Hell, they started it BEFORE the first lever was pulled. It was ALL going to be about “nothing to see here” until the Dede endorsed the Dem and perhaps got some of the votes to shift.

 

That gave them a chance to harp about more BS.

 

The thing that people need to remember about Democrat Party hacks; every time they open their mouth a lie comes out.

41 This whole Civil War stuff meme really isn't that bad for us. We know what's actually going on.

If we're really lucky however, the Dems/MSM won't. Typical liberal hubris. They'll internalize this talking point as reality keeps chugging along, and then about two months before election day 2010, they'll wake up and go, "Holy shit, I thought they [us] were radicalized and divided."

42 Hey Greg,  Take a number bub.

43 Why, Palin is so irrelevant that they can't stop talking about her.

44

I just wanted to say to the voters in NY-23 that you guys and gals are geniuses. You figured out that what this country really, really needs is more Democrats.

Good job you nimrods. Now go and scratch your heads as more and more jobs evaporate.

45 This election doesn't matter for Palin really. It's 2010 that counts. If her type of candidates do well, it will be good for her. they do badly, it's bad for her. This election will be forgotten by then either way. A week is a long time in politics, a year, well, ...

46 Too bad we couldn't get a Hoffman win too.The spinning would have been very entertaining.

47

There was a Civil War in 1993 ???

There was indeed. Remember? It fed the rich while it buried the po-o-or.

48 Sorry. Got my name wrong. But it has no implications on the joke.

49

Yup, Palin is so irrelevant that the media wants to know where she's going to be, what's she's going to say, what her plans are, and my God most importantly what she's going to wear!

She's too damn classy to say this, but it's been said several times before on AoSHQ: "How's my ass taste now?"

50
Hey Greg,  Take a number bub.

Heh, 'Greg Burns' reminded me of Esteban Speilbergo from the Simpsons.

51 Sarah Palin is only powerful, not all-powerful.  She definitely put her political weight and reputation behind McDonnell, Christie and Hoffman, and managed to humiliate the White House and the DNC only in two out of three of those races.  But she managed to wake up the RNC and the NRCC in the third race, and made it clear that the liberal faux-Democrat was not going to beat the real Democrat, that the only chance of defeating Owens in NY-23 lay with a real right-of-center candidate.

And taking a nobody to within a few points of victory -- a victory which but for the perfidy of the so-called Republican would have been his -- is a pretty clear affirmation of Palin's power.

52 a district that has not gone to the Democrats since about the Civil War.

So.  How are those layers of fact checking working out for you there, George?

53 This is great for SarahCuda. Her endorsement of Hoffman brought that race to national prominence and exposed the local GOP there in upstate NY for the bumbling idiots that they are. I still contend that she can do more good out of office than in it, ala Rush.

54

I happened to see that this morning since Mrs. North had left the TV on an alphabet channel last night before bed.  I was pleasantly surprised that he'd go to these lengths to try to kill her. 

You can tell who they fear by who they attack with the greatest vigor.

55

Lessee, Sarah Palin lost 1, won at least 4. Zero won 23rd. district rep. (1)

(barely) and lost the rest. And dipshit spins this as a slap down of Palin.

/better take another trip to the chicken coop Steph.

56
HAHAHAAA!
JTlol   Reasons the Visitors Are Not Like the Obama Administration, #125: The leader of the Visitors has only written one autobiography.

57

Attention Local No. 6 riders:

We have found a flaming skull, which appears to be drunk, at the Grand Central station, would the parents of this skull please report to the Oyster Bar to pick him up.

58

WHO THE FUCK CAME UP WITH THE TALKING POINT OF THIS BEING THE FIRST TIME A DEM WON THERE SINCE THE CIVIL WAR.

sorry for the caps.

59 29 Getting rid of DeDe was the victory. Owens is better then DeDe. DeDe would have given Nancy a bi-partisan, pink gloss to the shit she has been serving up. Someone send Stephie the 1993 results for NY23.

That's absolutely right.  When the Democrats are willing to claim "bi-partisan" support when just one RINO votes for a Democrat bill, each RINO in Congress represents a detriment to the Republican Party.  The worst disservice McCain did in office, to my mind, was his organizing the Gang of Fourteen to undercut his party and his President.  Perhaps the worst part of it was that it trained Lindsay Graham to do the same thing.

60 Least we forget, Steph worked for Bill Clinton, but he's not Biased, got that?  He just a fucking democrat.

61

Ace, you need to get off Palin's nuts.

 

You sound like a 13 year old girl with wet panties at a Jonas Bros concert.

 

Palin is more image than substance and made the endorsement in an attempt to stay relevant and in the spotlight.

 

Given how polarizing a figure she is, her plug was more opportunistic than anything else.  I do not believe she helped Hoffman any more than my endorsement of Scuzzyfava helped her.

 

Nice woman but I don't want to see her get slaughtered in the media again, nor do I want her giving a second term to Zero.

 

Stop by newt.org to see all my great (and useful!) Offical Newt products.

62 Who cares what sort of laughable spin left wing hacks put on Dems winning 1 out of 3 last night? That stuff is taylored for damage control among the voting public.  The moderate Dems in Congress who are wavery on supporting government run health care aren't going to pay heed to what they well know to be partisan drivel from the like of Stephanapolous. 

63
WHO THE FUCK CAME UP WITH THE TALKING POINT OF THIS BEING THE FIRST TIME A DEM WON THERE SINCE THE CIVIL WAR.

Karl Rove.  That magnificent bastard.

64

Newt who?

65 <i>I'm sorry -- but can you remind me again about whether the man holding the most powerful office in the free world is currently an "incumbent" or not?</i>

He's too busy <b>re</b>watching a documentary about himself to vote present. Occupant fits better.

66 58

WHO THE FUCK CAME UP WITH THE TALKING POINT OF THIS BEING THE FIRST TIME A DEM WON THERE SINCE THE CIVIL WAR.

Item one: all the stories about the GOP civil war referencing the fact that the same stories were in vogue in 1993.

Item two: Owens is the first Democrat for that district since 1993.

Place item one and item two into a liberal's empty skull, shake violently with GOP victories in Virginia and New Jersey, and you get:

"Owens is the first Democrat to represent NY-23 since the Civil War."

67 "I'm sorry -- but can you remind me again about whether the man holding the most powerful office in the free world is currently an "incumbent" or not?"

Don't expect an answer, Steph is too busy holding the cock of the man holding the most powerful office in the free world.

68 Your HTML tags confuse and infuriate me.

69 She turned me into a... oh, nvm

70 Palin is not running for anything, and she scares the shit outta these "people".
I can't wait til 2010.

Oh, and maybe Ace should make a big deal about the NY 23 100 years of Republican rule lie. Because even Fox is repeating it.

71 A Whig has not won that seat since before the Civil War - smarty pants!

72
maybe Ace should make a big deal about the NY 23 100 years of Republican rule lie. Because even Fox is repeating it.

Who's running it, Shep?  Figures.

73 Sarah Palin turned me into a Newt!

It didn't get better.

74 Remember when before the election, the White House announced that NY-23 had huge implications for Sarah Palin? Yeah, me neither.

75

Newt, STFU. Now go back to blowing EJ Dionne, you simp.

I mean, are you a Communist or something, asshole?

76  36 Hey, peeps - you can congratulate me!

My first ban from Hotair.

For criticizing Morrisey's anti-Israel lunacy and general fact-munching at foreign policy. I feel so warm and fuzzy.

Posted by: Juicer at November 04, 2009 01:23 PM (S/zDt)

Interesting. If Morrisey banned you, than you must be one stupid idiot. It takes alot for Ed to ban someone. Unlike Charles Johnson & the Little Green Filth, they tolerate alot over at HotAir.

77 Its always nice to hear what Stephanopoulos has to say.  Its good to know the official WH position.

78 Hey, anyone seen my skull?

79 Jesus christ these media people and Democrat politicians (I repeat myself) are in a bubble. Pelosi even said they have not won that seat since the Civil War. WTF do they just go read Kos for their history lessons or something?

80 77 Its always nice to hear what Stephanopoulos has to say.  Its good to know the official WH position.

Stephanopolous, official position, White House -- is it "knee pads"?

Or are we not playing "Password"?

81 Ah, so this is what a real news organization looks like. One without a 'point of view' as they say.

82

Hey let's just go out all day and repeat the same lies!!!!11!!!!!

Rush said that MLK's killer should be given a medal!!11!!!!

Nevah won this seat since the Civil War that means Repubs are racist!!!!1!!!!

Teabaggers!!!1!!!!!!

83
Interesting. If Morrisey banned you, than you must be one stupid idiot. It takes alot for Ed to ban someone. Unlike Charles Johnson & the Little Green Filth, they tolerate alot over at HotAir.

Posted by: portlandon at November 04, 2009 01:42 PM (jjW1l)

Thanks, pumpkin. I always try my best to test the tolerance of pseudo conservative douchebags with or without fascistic tendencies.

84 Newt who?

Amateur paleontologist.

85

Unlike Charles Johnson & the Little Green Filth

+++++++++++++++++++

 

Yep I got banded there too.  Poor CJ his numbers keep dropping as every day goes by... LOL

86 Everything is about either Obama or Palin.  If it's good, it's about Obama.  If it's bad it's about Palin.

87 Well, there was a CIvil War in 1993, just not in the US.

The reason it is seared, seared, in the "minds" of democrats is that it was in Bosnia, and was the result of the breakup of commie Yugoslavia - a day nearly as dark to the American leftist as the fall of the Belin Wall, or death of Joe Stalin.

88 Geraldine Ferraro on Fox trying to tell the Republicans who they should pick in NY-23 next year, no, no can't make it a conservative.  Hey GF, STFU, you got your butt kick in the last election you were in so look in the damn mirror.

PS - Jorge Snuffleupagus is a tool.

89 Moveon is going to work to unseat mod dems. How in the hell is it legal for a foreign brazillionaire to dick with our elections? Why is Soros still breathing?

90 The child-God Obama gets weaker and the moose-God Palin gets stronger.

91 They can spin this all they want, but they are smart enough to know what's going on.  Remember when the tea party movement started and they all said it was all astroturfing?  They knew better then too.  We haven't seen Obamacare pass yet, have we?  They are trying to sway the opinion of the uninformed with their spin, but, thanks to their own actions, more people than ever are paying attention.  We've got them on the run so let's keep up the pressure.

92 Civil War? In America?

Never heard of it.

93

I'm not sure if Shep was the one on Fox repeating the: not since the civil war talking point - but  Bob Bechel was...  Bob was also rewriting history and blaming Palin for the loss. 

Hey Bob I got a suggestion for you go back a couple weeks and look at the  lead Owens had prior to the uproar about Scozzi.    

94

Sarah Palin = John Galt.

There, I said it first.

95 reflections of anti-incumbent fervor

Um, Democrats are the incumbents, Georgie.

96 juicer i never heard anti-israeli tendencies from ed morrissey i agree with portlandon

97

Hey he just gets his marching orders every morning from the White House phone con and says what ever is ordered up, if Axel tomorrow said the "One" was declaring war on puppies, he would run it as a front page major scoop story.

The propaganda media like him and Lapdog Obermann or "Tingle Legs" Christy or “Beggin” Sanchez or “Soupy” Anderson continue to parade their lack of honesty, integrity, creditability as a badge of honor, because they know the “One” loves them.

“It is better to die on your feet facing the enemy than exist on your knees”

 

 

98 "a Democrat can squeak through in a district that has not gone to the Democrats since about the Civil War."

Yeah, except for in 65 out of the last 92 years in which the seat Owens just won was won by a Democrat!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NY-23

This is fucking outrageous.

Qwinn

99 @96
I've also never detected anti-Israeli tendencies from Ed. 

100 | Civil War? In America?
| Never heard of it.

That's because it was a temper tantrum, you poseur.

101 George participates in a WH conference call at least 3 X a week. So he does have the benefit of their brilliant insight. The best prediction George ever made was that if the Democrats took the House and Senate that there would be no troops in Iraq or Afghanistan within 6 mos.

(Drive by)

102 The moose hunter from Alaska demonstrated her keen aim, attention to detail,  and ability to lead a political target in the last few weeks. That should give her serious consideration for a 2012 candidacy. Or we can just follow the Hoffman principle and vote for her anyway, instead of the SCM-approved RINO or weak-kneed moderate, right?

Remember, Sarah Palin is no Joe Biden. She is no Barack Obama. And she is no RINO, either.

103 "So, does that demonstrate her power?"

Does anybody else think that Hamond started moving up when Palins stepped in and stopped moving up when the NRCC (or what ever it was) moved in and started telling him how to do it?  ("it" meaning losing contact with the troops he needed to go vote).

I see a pattern here.

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