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Keith Olbermann Chickens Out Rather Than Report on Republican Victories

Keef was promoted as coming back for more on a 10:00 shot, to learn us all about the elections.

For some reason, they just repeated his more optimistic 8:00 broadcast. (Is it a "broad"cast if thirty people are watching?

I just caught Chris Matthews late Hardball edition. You know the big race tonight that's super-important? Bob Owens' win. That's all Matthews seemed interested in talking about. How Owens won, and how Hoffman's candidacy spells doom for the Republicans.

Shameless.

Posted by: Ace at 01:12 AM



Comments

1 Hot Damn. First!

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 04, 2009 01:14 AM (oCMdU)

2 Bring on 2010 Bozocrats. We're gonna kick your ass!

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 04, 2009 01:16 AM (oCMdU)

3 I guess Owens is the Keymaster or something.

This is just a taste, Chrissy.

2010 looms.

Posted by: eman at November 04, 2009 01:16 AM (j+aj1)

4

NY - 23, now that is a window into the future?  As that one goes, so goes the nation.

 

New Jersey?  Virginia?  Are they like in Scandinavia or something?

 

Posted by: Charlie Gibson & Chris Matthews at November 04, 2009 01:16 AM (OyaTi)

5 MSNBC's coverage was a joke. If you are going to assert you are a news organization then you have to report AND discuss all the news. Not just what you like. Did Fox pull this crap in 2006 & 2008? No.

Who is less like a news organization here Obama?

Posted by: Rocks at November 04, 2009 01:16 AM (MTcoh)

6 If Hoffman won...what would they talk about? Would they just ignore the election?

Posted by: John S at November 04, 2009 01:17 AM (ooFtI)

7 If Hoffman won...what would they talk about? Would they just ignore the election?

Posted by: John S at November 04, 2009 01:17 AM (ooFtI)


Till then that's what they were doing. Maddow was talking health care and Lieberman when I checked.

Posted by: Rocks at November 04, 2009 01:18 AM (MTcoh)

8 Christie is a gracious winner and seems a truly funny guy. I liked his sense of humor in the whole "fat" episode.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 04, 2009 01:19 AM (oCMdU)

9 I'm glad Cristie won but that was one of the worst victory speeches I have heard in awhile. He just couldn't get off the campaign talking points.

Posted by: Rocks at November 04, 2009 01:20 AM (MTcoh)

10 Palin/Christie 2012!

Posted by: eman at November 04, 2009 01:21 AM (j+aj1)

11 The 52% came out to put Barry in office, but they won't come out to keep him there.

Barry can be beaten.

In fact, tonight shows he can be whooped.

Posted by: eman at November 04, 2009 01:23 AM (j+aj1)

12

6

They would have chalked it up to local issues, and would have said that if it weren't for the divine assistance of "The One", a wider margin of defeat would have been suffered by the noble and heroic progressive cause at the hands of the evil knuckledragging, snake handling, banjo playing, nazi obstructionists.

Somethin' like that I'd imagine.

 

 

Posted by: Charlie Gibson & Chris Matthews at November 04, 2009 01:23 AM (OyaTi)

13 5 MSNBC's coverage was a joke. If you are going to assert you are a news organization then you have to report AND discuss all the news. Not just what you like. Did Fox pull this crap in 2006 & 2008? No.

Hell, in 2008 we got to see a drunk Brit Hume and most of us considered it the highlight of the evening.

Posted by: AD at November 04, 2009 01:24 AM (/M3Gr)

14 you missed Matthews and Cantor going at it at 7PM

Posted by: YRM at November 04, 2009 01:25 AM (xNw7B)

15 Both Keef and Maddow chickened out.

We still don't know which one has the bigger dick.

Posted by: eman at November 04, 2009 01:26 AM (j+aj1)

Posted by: Rocks at November 04, 2009 01:26 AM (MTcoh)

17 You gotta love Bathtub Boy!

Posted by: RJ at November 04, 2009 01:27 AM (ADbI4)

18 For your early morning spin catch NPR.

Posted by: eman at November 04, 2009 01:27 AM (j+aj1)

19

Posted by: Rocks at November 04, 2009 01:26 AM (MTcoh)

I'm personally pro-gay marriage as i don't think it hurts anyone and couldn't care less who these people marry/do but I've always understood why people are personally against it and this Maine result shows me that this country is still generally anti-Gay marriage even in blue states

Posted by: YRM at November 04, 2009 01:29 AM (xNw7B)

20 #16

Uh, oh, look out Mormons.

Posted by: chris999 at November 04, 2009 01:29 AM (B/WwP)

21 Imagine you are a Dem operative tonight and your boss calls you and wants you to have tomorrow's talking points ready by 4:00 am.

Pain.

Posted by: eman at November 04, 2009 01:30 AM (j+aj1)

22 "If Hoffman won...what would they talk about? Would they just ignore the election?"

Well, a few hours ago, when it seemed like the homosexual marriage proponents were going to win in Maine, and Hoffman was going to win in NY, Rachel Maddow was talking about Maine, to the exclusion of New Jersey, Virginia, and New York.

By the way, here is why Olbermann is known as Bathtub Boy:

http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2008/01/how_keith_olber.php

Posted by: RJ at November 04, 2009 01:30 AM (ADbI4)

23 #19

An obvious hater!

Posted by: chris999 at November 04, 2009 01:30 AM (B/WwP)

24 In Connecticut here the Repubs kicked ass in local elections. Taking many mayoral races from incumbent Dems and majorities of town councils and board of ed.
The only place that held strong Dem was Bridgeport which is a very liberal city.

Posted by: Rocks at November 04, 2009 01:30 AM (MTcoh)

25 Gibbs takes tomorrow off.

Biden takes the podium instead.

Posted by: eman at November 04, 2009 01:31 AM (j+aj1)

26 "Christie is a gracious winner and seems a truly funny guy. I liked his sense of humor in the whole "fat" episode"

I agree he's a gracious winner. But did you see his "victory speech?" He was clearly nervous, stumbling all over his words and repeating things over and over again.

Just sayin'...

Posted by: RJ at November 04, 2009 01:32 AM (ADbI4)

27 So, does Barry blow up an aspirin factory tomorrow?

In NJ?

Posted by: eman at November 04, 2009 01:33 AM (j+aj1)

28 "The 52% came out to put Barry in office, but they won't come out to keep him there"

It was 53%. Sorry, but them's the facts.

Posted by: RJ at November 04, 2009 01:33 AM (ADbI4)

29 "Hell, in 2008 we got to see a drunk Brit Hume and most of us considered it the highlight of the evening."

LOL, I remember that well.

Posted by: RJ at November 04, 2009 01:34 AM (ADbI4)

30 Barry can blow up a few big pharma headquarters in Jersey.

Posted by: chris999 at November 04, 2009 01:35 AM (B/WwP)

31 Both Keef and Maddow chickened out.

We still don't know which one has the bigger dick.

I lol'd.

Posted by: RJ at November 04, 2009 01:35 AM (ADbI4)

32

I'm personally pro-gay marriage as i don't think it hurts anyone and couldn't care less who these people marry/do but I've always understood why people are personally against it and this Maine result shows me that this country is still generally anti-Gay marriage even in blue states

Posted by: YRM at November 04, 2009 01:29 AM (xNw7B)


Domestic partnerships actually got equal rights with marriage in Washington, barely by 3% of the vote but they will specifically not be called marriage.

The problem for most people, in even the bluest area, is that they have never explained why same sex unions should be called marriage. Mainly because they aren't and they know most people don't think they are.

Posted by: Rocks at November 04, 2009 01:35 AM (MTcoh)

33 "Imagine you are a Dem operative tonight and your boss calls you and wants you to have tomorrow's talking points ready by 4:00 am"

It's easy if you have no shame and don't mind lying.

"Virginia is historically a Red state, and Mr. Deeds refused The One's help. Also, he's a horrible candidate. New Jersey was close, but the incumbent Democrat Governor was deeply unpopular, and pretty much a stale muffin could have beaten him. It's a testament to the weakness of the GOP that they barely won there. NY 23 shows that Joe Biden has serious coattails, and that the tea-bagging fascists will lead the GOP to defeat and collapse. Maine is full of Mormon scum. That is all."


Posted by: RJ at November 04, 2009 01:41 AM (ADbI4)

34 31 Both Keef and Maddow chickened out.

We still don't know which one has the bigger dick.

I lol'd.


Keef tucks it between his legs and poses in front of the full body mirror.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 04, 2009 01:44 AM (IqfKc)

35   24 In Connecticut here the Repubs kicked ass in local elections. Taking many mayoral races from incumbent Dems and majorities of town councils and board of ed.
The only place that held strong Dem was Bridgeport which is a very liberal city.

Posted by: Rocks at November 04, 2009 01:30 AM (MTcoh)

 

Thats real good, but are they conservatives? I guess on the east coast that is good stuff. Not trying to be a smartass,  really!!

Posted by: lou at November 04, 2009 01:54 AM (UbWbu)

36 But but but HOFFMAN, HOFFMAN and HOFFMAN!!11!1!!1!!! It's the most important single political race since the beginning of history last January!!!!!111!!1! KKKonservatives are dooooomed!



Corzine who?

Posted by: George Orwell at November 04, 2009 02:04 AM (ucsu2)

37 Chris Matthews does the damnest imitation of that archetypal bloviating opinionated obnoxious fog-brained clueless nitwit over-talking head that Fred Willis carried off so wonderfully years ago as the sidekick to the burn-out talk show host on Fernwood Tonight.

Except Willis was funny, he was playing a part, as opposed to actually being such a clown.

And except that whereas Willis made a positive contribution to the show, with Matthews I find myself cheer-leading those huge flouncing goobers escaping from the sides of his mouth, hoping he gets whiplash from the spittle he's keeps spewing through the set, falls in a puddle of his own foam and goes into extremis.

The way he acts on camera, it would not be hard to accept he does those shows without any pants.

Posted by: diderot's dog at November 04, 2009 02:19 AM (DT0Wi)

38 Crap, I meant Fred Willard, not Willis; must have football brain syndrome.

Anyway, here's an example of what I mean:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPpepopSWOE

Posted by: diderot's dog at November 04, 2009 02:23 AM (DT0Wi)

39 Quick, Robin, to the Bat Tub!

Posted by: Keef Obermanbahnfuerher at November 04, 2009 02:26 AM (rC+/c)

40 The lesson of NY-23 is that if you're going to throw a useless candidate out of the party boat, make sure to tie the anchor to her ankle first so she can't bite a hole in the boat before she swims away.

I hope Christie is able to get his hands on enough of the levers of power in NJ actually to do something about the place. 


Posted by: mrkwong at November 04, 2009 03:02 AM (G8Eo0)

41 "Is it a "broad"cast if thirty people are watching"

Is it a "broad"cast if doods are watching?

Posted by: anonymous at November 04, 2009 03:13 AM (Arm0S)

42 YRM: "you missed Matthews and Cantor going at it at 7PM"

If it was on MSNBC -- yeah, we missed it. We call that "Anytowntime, USA."

Posted by: America at November 04, 2009 03:30 AM (C3uAX)

43 Guys, guys, guys.  They were just busy tweaking their "Sarah Palin was the biggest loser of the night!!" story.  Since the Dems lost in NJ and VA, they had to trim the original 3 hours by 2 minutes.  It will be good to go for all seven of their morning viewers, though. 

Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at November 04, 2009 03:35 AM (KWhJd)

44 Hmmm:
http://elections.nytimes.com/2009/results/new-jersey.html?hp

Posted by: meep at November 04, 2009 04:35 AM (Jw4eT)

45 Prediction:

Early November 2010 will find Christ Matthews laying on his back in a straight jacked writing "I hate the GOP" on the walls with his toes.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 04, 2009 05:31 AM (AfPnb)

46

Chris Matthew's liver must look like the meteor-pitted surface of Mercury.

You just can't get that stupid with normal biochemical functions.

Posted by: TexasJew at November 04, 2009 05:45 AM (dcKUM)

47

You know, if we didn’t have these sites “watching” the Olbei nobody would ever know what he is doing or saying. In other words, his trees would be falling in the forest and they wouldn’t make any noise because there would be nobody there to hear them.

Posted by: Vic at November 04, 2009 06:34 AM (CDUiN)

48 Uhm, yeah, right Chrissy. The special election for a single House seat, held under rather weird circumstances, is the true national bellweather...not the two governor's races in states that both went for Obama. My, what a keen and penetrating politcal mind you are. Back to your gimp-cage now...shoo, shoo.

So, MSNBC -- with it's two main on-air personalities acting like glue-huffing 12 year-olds -- is a legitimate news org, but Fox isn't? Okkaaaayyy......

Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at November 04, 2009 06:58 AM (gneS8)

49 I just checked out the Daily Dish.  There being a shortage of Mormons in Maine, Sully blames - the Catholics. 

Posted by: Donna V. at November 04, 2009 07:17 AM (oPiSs)

50 Hadn't seen Matthews in a while.
Malaria is a hell of a disease- I've seen healthier looking people in a casket.
Also- it is awesome to know that John Gibsons story about "Bathtub Boy" is 100% accurate after Keith ran away tonight.
Makes up for the traitor Scuzzyfava throwing the election.

Posted by: jjshaka at November 04, 2009 07:33 AM (/yFoi)

51 My favorite spin so far was an article on cnn.com.  The Republicans won because their voters were angry over being out of power.  You see, this is really just a temper tantrum and it won't last.  Apparently, 2006 and 2008 weren't brought about by people angry at GWB.  Those elections were enlightened people making rational decisions.

Posted by: Steve L. at November 04, 2009 07:50 AM (Gkhxf)

52 That defeat of Death took a lot out of Olbermann.

Posted by: unknown jane at November 04, 2009 08:16 AM (5/yRG)

53 I'd bet KO crawled back into his bathtub in the fetal position and they couldn't get him out. It's happened before.

Posted by: CrackrJak at November 04, 2009 09:02 AM (tFNyp)

54 Keep fuckin' that chicken, Keith.

Posted by: The Most Interesting Hirsute Man In the World (rdb) at November 04, 2009 09:09 AM (mkihu)

55 The American voter is tonight's Worst Person in the World.

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at November 04, 2009 09:10 AM (YRjsF)

56 Newt/Scozza 2012!

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 04, 2009 09:38 AM (aDG19)

57 You gotta admit that Hoffman looked like a goober.

Posted by: kansas at November 04, 2009 09:49 AM (ynT/h)

58 But, that segment on the Top 10 Smartest Baseball Plays is what the "network that talks politics" is really about.

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 04, 2009 09:51 AM (V9SYy)

59 Shameless.

Ace, you try to persuade us with facts not yet in evidence.  Please show us that clip where MSNBC, Olbermann or Matthews had a sense of shame.

Posted by: David in San Diego at November 04, 2009 10:01 AM (GF+6V)

60

I agree he's a gracious winner. But did you see his "victory speech?" He was clearly nervous, stumbling all over his words and repeating things over and over again.

He was probably still in shock ACORN didn't steal the election for Corzine by finding a warehouse full of "mail-in ballots" in Newark.

Posted by: David Axelrod's Combover at November 04, 2009 10:06 AM (/Pw+r)

61

"You gotta admit that Hoffman looked like a goober"

 

I'll take a Hoffman goober over a Bathtub Boy goober any day. That coward Keefe was probably out with Michael Moore getting a nude massage with underage ACORN procured prostitutes.

Posted by: MustywiltedMarx at November 04, 2009 10:11 AM (OtPf+)

62 Its the "ObaMath™"

One obscure house seat(good for only a year) > Two full term governors.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 04, 2009 10:15 AM (7GiSR)

63 Hoffman loss was too bad. Loses by only 5000 votes after the republicans give Scozza 900k to trash him, and the dems spend their money trashing him, and he doesn't exactly exude charisma. I imagine Scozza was still on the ballot cause she dropped out so late. Wonder how many clueless voters punched the Scozza button? Didn't see any numbers on that . . .

Posted by: joe at November 04, 2009 10:27 AM (YwBI6)

64

is it a "broad"cast if thirty people are watching?

It's a broadcast when the anchor has smaller testicles than Rachel Maddow.  So, yeah.

Posted by: Truman North at November 04, 2009 10:32 AM (e8YaH)

65

Wonder how many clueless voters punched the Scozza button? Didn't see any numbers on that . . .

 

As I said earlier this morning, all that were racked up to her. They do not start counting absentee ballots until next week. In addition, there is an entire county of ballots to count next week because the machines broke.

 

Wouldn’t it be a kicker if after counting those ballots Hoffman came out ahead.

Posted by: Vic at November 04, 2009 10:38 AM (CDUiN)

66 Olbermann didn't "run away". His father's serious health and health coverage problems over the past few months, particularly given his mother died last year so isn't around to assist, have caused him to miss something between and third and a quarter of his own shows. There's high school snark, there's junior high school snark and then there's complete idiocy -- and then there's Ace and his moronic tenants.

Posted by: diderot's dog at November 04, 2009 10:41 AM (DT0Wi)

67 Keef?

It's Kweef dude. Kweef Olberman.

Posted by: someguy at November 04, 2009 10:45 AM (VRJIW)

68

Imagine the MEDIA were baseball umpires.   There are 6 working the World Series game tonight.

5 are lifelong Yankees fans.  1 is a Phillies fan.  Throughout the game each questionable call by the 5 Yankees fan umps goes for the Yankees  Each questionable call by the Phillies fan ump goes for the Phillise.

Now imagine the Geroge Steinbrenner going on television and telling the country that the Phillies fan umpire, isn't a real umpire.because he is biased. against the Yankees.

Sound familiar?

 

 

Posted by: gus at November 04, 2009 10:47 AM (Vqruj)

69 #15 Maddow has the bigger dick.

Posted by: gus at November 04, 2009 10:48 AM (Vqruj)

70

mrkwong.  You're not real bright are you?

Scozzafava was picked by country GOP chairman.  She was touted by Newt Gingrich.  Conservatives said Soczzafava does not represent us.  She is pro-gay marriage, she is pro-abortion, she is pro Card check and she won the Margaret Sanger award.  NOBODY THREW HE OUT.  She was on the ballot as a Republican.  That's like putting Thunder thighs Rodham on the Republican side.  The GOP gave Scozzafava's campaign a MILLION dollars.

Conservatives said FUCK YOU to the LOCAL GOP leaders.  Hoffman ran as an independant and got 9 times the votes that Scozzafava got, despite being completely unknown 1 month ago.

Scozzafava quit and was not thrown out by anyone.

Posted by: gus at November 04, 2009 10:57 AM (Vqruj)

71

"Naah naaah naaah! I can't hear you! (And anyway, you're all a bunch of filthy, angry, stupid, fundy, racist, redneck criminals who want poor people to die when they get sick.) " doesn't appear to be a very effective political strategy for the Democrats at this time.

Bob Beckel looked like he was about to throw up as Bull Kristol tried not to laugh at him TOO hard while the camera was still rolling.

Keep sucking those lemons Keith! You're too intensely myopic and delusional to know how to make lemonade out of them, so you really  have no choice. Gimme your sour face!

Chris, you can push back with all your strength if you want to but it looks like things are still moving to the right and getting redder. Too bad. Obama just isn't as popular in real life as he is in your 'tingle-leg' dreams. Neither are his policies, his comrades in the house and senate, his toadies in the press, or his own gaggle of radical lunatic czars. His foreign policy is pretty unimpressive too. Get USED to this feeling Chris.

Posted by: Cack Finger at November 04, 2009 11:19 AM (LDQCY)

72 Any night without Keefum's is a good night. And Vegas has modified the line on Keith getting sick on election night 2010. Before last night, it was 4-1. Now, its even money.

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 04, 2009 11:26 AM (V9SYy)

73 @66

Keith Olbermann is too poor to afford a home health care worker?  Is that really the excuse you want to use? 

Unless there was a medical emergency, it is hard to imagine in what way the chronic illness of a millionaire's father would necessitate a last minute decision to not appear when his employer was promoting that he would. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2009 11:42 AM (sey23)

74 miller said...  [ann althouse blog] Obama didn't campaign for Owens, and Owens won.

Obama campaigned for Deeds and Corzine -- and they lost.

I think this is much clearer.

Posted by: Rewrite! at November 04, 2009 11:42 AM (UaSIe)

75 I think it still qualifies as a "broad"cast if Rosie O'Donnell is watching.

Posted by: Ira at November 04, 2009 11:45 AM (a7RyZ)

76

In fairness, compared to Charles da Johnson, Keef ain't so bad.

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Posted by: rayra at November 04, 2009 11:48 AM (UaSIe)

77

I think it still qualifies as a "broad"cast if Rosie O'Donnell is watching.

MUFFIST!

Posted by: Rosie O at November 04, 2009 11:49 AM (UaSIe)

78 15 Both Keef and Maddow chickened out.

We still don't know which one has the bigger dick.

Posted by: eman at November 04, 2009 01:26 AM (j+aj1)

Maddow, probably, but it's most likeley a 12 volt strap-on. Keef, on the other hand, has this problem:

http://tinyurl.com/ygdxvpu

Posted by: SFC MAC at November 04, 2009 12:12 PM (cuNX0)

79 typo: likely

Posted by: SFC MAC at November 04, 2009 12:12 PM (cuNX0)

80

I see that the two sneaky, little, liberal creeps who run Google now want to cease searches for conservative websites, which will make it more difficult for conservatives to find those websites, unless they know the specific names of those sites.

These slimy liberals, they want to deprive conservatives of their 1st Amendment rights, further proof that they are definitely determined to astablish a socialist dictatorship, using the models of Communist China and the former Soviet Union and Cuba and Venezuela.

Would I be a radical if I said that I wanted to declare war on all Democrats? They aren't just immoral. They  are [very] mean, [very] vicious, unscrupulous and evil.

I have always said that Democrats are a coalition of creeps, losers, misfits and perverts, all of whom are either mentally ill or mentally retarded. (Never mind that they don't serve any useful purpose, and they just waste good oxygen.) That sums it up, don't you think?

Posted by: Colin at November 04, 2009 12:35 PM (Cta0m)

81

#66, holy fuck, the Dog is back! Long time no see!

Our troll content has been limited around here lately. Step up your game and fill the void.

Posted by: SGT Dan at November 04, 2009 12:39 PM (GgXZc)

82

 

 Did you really believe that "Lapdog" Obermann and "Tingle Legs" Chisey would report the truth?  “Lapdog” is under his desk repeating his mantra “I am smarter than them” over and over again, trying not to cry like the girl child he is. “Tingle Legs” can’t see anything that does not help his man love of Obama grow.

 

Posted by: John at November 04, 2009 12:42 PM (bvaOU)

83

Hey, you want to reduce "global warming"?

Starve and exterminate most of the liberals. That will eliminate [their] CO2 emissions. Whether they're talking or farting, its all just flatulence and offensive, hot air. (Geezez, but they're a plague on this planet.)

Posted by: Colin at November 04, 2009 12:50 PM (Cta0m)

84

There's a simple method of reducing your blood pressure: Program your TV, so that whenever you go channel surfing, your TV automatically bypasses NBC, CBS, ABC and all of their affiliates like MSNBC and CNBC and A & E and the History Channel. I haven't bothered to watch [any] of those channels for the past ten years. All of their progams are propoganda and baloney anyway. In fact, frequently The History Channel is revisionist history, which you would realize, unless you received a public school education within the past 30 years.

BTW, have you noticed that, lately, CNN is trying to be more fair and balanced? They still have a long way to go, but they're getting better..

Posted by: Colin at November 04, 2009 01:06 PM (Cta0m)

85

No replies or comments???

Okee dokee,  I'll go and heckle the loonies on the Daily KOS.. Any day now, I expect to get banned from there. So I've been, um, rationing my visits with those goofy dimwits. It sure is fun, though, when I get them to go ballistic. he he he he he

Posted by: Colin at November 04, 2009 01:15 PM (Cta0m)

86 For some reason, they just repeated his more optimistic 8:00 broadcast. (Is it a "broad"cast if thirty people are watching?

And 29 of them are right wing bloggers, while the 1 left over is Olbermann himself.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 04, 2009 01:46 PM (PQY7w)

87 I felt cheated last night.  I channel surfed as Christie was being announced the winner and didn't get the sad faces I was looking for.  MSNBC was discussing something else (apparently this was the repeat) and CNN had a guy at a map discussing how Corzine could still pull it out (he needs X% in this county) even as the network had overlaid a Christie wins crawl.  Essentially, on both fronts I saw non-acceptance.  I was hoping for something closer to 2000's Supreme Court decision and 2004's Kerry Wins!  Umm, No He Doesn't experiences.  You know, like they just found out Santa isn't real.

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