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| NJ Update: CNN Exits Show Big Lead for Christie Among IndependentsLooking Up: Blowout lead among indies: This seems pretty darn big: In New Jersey, CNN's exit poll says Christie won independents 58-33 over Corzine, with indies making up 27 percent of the electorate.NJ Results: Very little of the vote in yet. Big Update of Dubious Provenance : Geraghty is not vouching for this number at all but he's re-tweeting a claim: Corzine and Christie knotted up at 47 apiece, according, supposedly, to leaked exit polls. ... Turnout Poor In Newark, Other Democratic Strongholds: Corzine needs minorities to turn out enough to make up 20% of voters. It appears unlikely. Although turnout has ticked up in Newark, no one is talking about strong turnout. Even Democratic hands will only predict, wink-wink, a "narrow win." More on NJ Turnout from Mary Katharine Ham. ... Pretty damn good news: In NY-23 despite the presence more or less of two Republican candidates on the ballot, Doug Hoffman is winning 71% of the GOP vote to Bill Owens’ 67% of the Democratic vote. Hoffman leads Owens 52-30 with independents. In New Jersey Chris Christie is getting 82% of the Republican vote while Jon Corzine is at 72% of the Democratic vote. Christie leads 52-29 with independents. … From the high levels of party unity it’s clear that Republicans voters see the path back to power will require staying on the same page. And whether it’s because the Democrats have bad candidates or they’re unhappy with President Obama, independents are giving the GOP very high levels of support. It should be the best Republican election night since George W. Bush got reelected.Christie, though, is not in a good position. He may be getting more of the Republican vote than Corzine is getting of the Democratic vote, but the fact is New Jersey has a lot more Democrats than Republicans. Hopefully doing well with independents will provide votes to put him over the top, but it's going to be near thing: We probably won't know until late tonight or early tomorrow morning. Whoops! Maybe not (fingers crossed knock wood spit). Turnout in McCain counties in NJ heavy. I want to preface this by noting that all of this is based only on the early voting, and is based on about a half-dozen polling places in every county in New Jersey; some known as historically Republican districts, some known as historically swing districts, and some known as historically Democratic districts. A trusted source tells me that as of noon, total turnout in the GOP the swing districts in NJ is significantly outpacing turnout in Democrat districts. The turnout ratio is not quite two to one, but it's not that far from it.Caveats Geraghty adds: Democrats vote later, etc. Also, small sample size here. Still. Thanks to AHFF Geoff. Comments1
Why wait?
I'll tell you the Christie results right now... Corzine wins by 238 ballots after 20 lawsuits to define "just what is a ballot." Posted by: Gringo at November 03, 2009 05:01 PM (2UVUM) 2
In New Jersey, nearly every poll before the election had Christie winning with independents, usually by double digits. Right now, I suspect it is still a turnout game.
Posted by: Mallamutt at November 03, 2009 05:01 PM (V9SYy) 3
It's not over till the dead have voted.
Posted by: lorien1973 at November 03, 2009 05:04 PM (IhQuA) 4
The two heaviest turnout counties are Hunterdon, which McCain carried by 13.3 percent over Barack Obama and Morris County, which McCain carried by 8.1 percent.
The phenomenon is not uniform; Union Country's turnout is described as above Ocean's, and Obama carried Union by 27 percent; Ocean County's turnout is described as "good," and McCain carried that county by 18 percent. Hudson County and Essex County were described as "light." Hudson County is heavily Democratic, with Obama carrying it by 46 percent last year; he carried Essex County with 75 percent of the vote. Salem County's turnout is described as "unbelievably sleepy"; Obama carried that county by 4 percent. Posted by: Anti-Harkkonen Freedom Fighter at November 03, 2009 05:04 PM (5r0Tz) 5
We need more openly homosexual candidates. Do you think we should get David Brock or Andrew Sullivan to run as a Republican for a Senate seat in 2010? Those are a couple of pretty conservative guys...my kind of conservatives!
Posted by: David Scum at November 03, 2009 05:04 PM (ADbI4) 6
Sort of amazing when voters are offered a clear choice of philosophies, unclouded by doubts of "true party adherence". My next burning desire is to see how many "Actual Conservative" Democrats can be flipped to the GOP.
Posted by: USCitizen at November 03, 2009 05:05 PM (x0kcN) 7
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Why wait?
I'll tell you the Christie results right now... Corzine wins by 238 ballots after 20 lawsuits to define "just what is a ballot." Don't forget me! Posted by: Hanging Chads at November 03, 2009 05:06 PM (OKZrE) 8
Fuck 'em. If the 'independents' want the New Jersey status quo, let 'em keep voting for Democrats. There's only so much we can do to attract these assholes without diluting our own brand and identity. Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses at November 03, 2009 05:06 PM (UXddJ) 9
Christie wins. Those voters aren't coming out till Obama delivers the goods he promised.
Posted by: Rocks at November 03, 2009 05:06 PM (Q1lie) Posted by: Typical Dem Voter at November 03, 2009 05:07 PM (aDG19) Posted by: Brown Line at November 03, 2009 05:07 PM (VrNoa) 12
Independents tend to vote by the adage, "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me." People who identify as members of a particular party will tend to be more forgiving of their own party's politicians breaking promises or underdelivering, because to criticize those politicians involves taking some of the blame themselves. Thus, compared to self-identified Democrats, independents are less likely to feel the need to stick by and justify their prior votes for Obama and his fellow Democrats. Posted by: stuiec at November 03, 2009 05:07 PM (7AOgy) Posted by: Andrew Sullivan, just call me "fisty sully". at November 03, 2009 05:08 PM (nxUYP) 14
Democrats vote later?
Wut? You can only cast one ballot if you vote later. Vote early. Vote often. Posted by: Chicago at November 03, 2009 05:09 PM (GtYrq) Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses at November 03, 2009 05:10 PM (UXddJ) 16
Posted by: Rocks at November 03, 2009 05:06 PM (Q1lie)
I tend to agree. Unless or until folks get their Obama money, they won't give two shits about "some damn govnor". Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 03, 2009 05:11 PM (nxUYP) 17
Some people think V, which premiers tonight, is a commentary on Obama. I think it is a commentary on New Jersey. Because even though he appears jovial and sane, if he wins, Christie will eat the state. Don't say I didn't warn you. He is NOT Santa Claus. He only looks like Santa Claus. But underneath that blubbery exterior lies the cholesterol clogged heart of giant fat man just waiting to snort 15 lines of coke and freak out like Sam Kinison at a batchelor party. Posted by: Entropy at November 03, 2009 05:11 PM (cok/k) 18
For whatever its worth, I was the only guy there when I voted this morning in Hoboken. When Hopey McChangey won there were about 100 people at the same place about an hour earlier.(7am vs 8:30am).
Posted by: Shtetl G at November 03, 2009 05:11 PM (s2Bbk) 19
I voted early this AM in NJ. Now I'm drinking.
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 03, 2009 05:11 PM (TfW4T) 20
Those are a couple of pretty, conservative guys...my kind of conservatives!
Oooop. Missed a comma! Posted by: David Scum at November 03, 2009 05:11 PM (wOGfT) 21
For whatever its worth, I was the only guy there when I voted this morning in Hoboken. When Hopey McChangey won there were about 100 people at the same place about an hour earlier.(7am vs 8:30am).
Posted by: Shtetl G at November 03, 2009 05:11 PM (s2Bbk) yeah well that's kinda normal for off year elections Posted by: nevergiveup at November 03, 2009 05:12 PM (TfW4T) 22
Corzine is already working to steal the election. If it is close the Christie will lose because Repubs don't fight this shit.
Posted by: Ken Royall at November 03, 2009 05:12 PM (9zzk+) 23
"Democrats vote later, etc."
Yes, just try getting an ACORN organizer out of the sack before noon. Posted by: joncelli at November 03, 2009 05:12 PM (RD7QR) 24
Please stop talking about Sullivan. I had almost forgotten that I once, a long time ago, thought that he had an interesting mind and original thoughts. Now of course he's an AIDS-demented, blubbering, drooling idiot.
I voted early this morning and I was surprised at the number of people voting. I tried to distract my Democrat neighbor with a pretty picture and some baubles, but it didn't work. Posted by: NJconservative at November 03, 2009 05:13 PM (/Ywwg) 25
Yes, just try getting an ACORN organizer out of the sack before noon.
Posted by: joncelli at November 03, 2009 05:12 PM (RD7QR) Well them South of the Border underage prostitutes keep the bed warm Posted by: nevergiveup at November 03, 2009 05:13 PM (TfW4T) 26
Posted by: Chicago at November 03, 2009 05:09 PM (GtYrq)
Hey fuckstick, this is Joisey. We do our own thing here, capisce? Don't you worry none. It's in the bag. Posted by: Wiseguy From Camden at November 03, 2009 05:14 PM (nxUYP) 27
The Zombies won't be out until about dark and those assholes always vote democrat.
Posted by: robtr at November 03, 2009 05:14 PM (fwSHf) 28
yeah well that's kinda normal for off year elections
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 03, 2009 05:12 PM (TfW4T) It was also a special Mayoral election because our Mayor only lasted 19 days before getting indicted for bribery. Posted by: Shtetl G at November 03, 2009 05:14 PM (s2Bbk) 29
Hey, remember me? I'm johnny-on-the-spot right outside the White House in Lafayette Park, next to the Buddhist/Hindu-ish guy who always beats that drum, just waiting for my moment to let 'er rip!
Posted by: The Brown Note at November 03, 2009 05:15 PM (92zkk) 30
It was also a special Mayoral election because our Mayor only lasted 19 days before getting indicted for bribery.
Christ, that's a record even by Jersey standards! Posted by: joncelli at November 03, 2009 05:15 PM (RD7QR) 31
It was also a special Mayoral election because our Mayor only lasted 19 days before getting indicted for bribery.
Posted by: Shtetl G at November 03, 2009 05:14 PM (s2Bbk) What's the under/over on the new mayor? Posted by: nevergiveup at November 03, 2009 05:16 PM (TfW4T) 32
There weren't many good lines from the the Star Wars prequels. But, this one was good:
Wipe them out. All of them. Posted by: GregInSeattle at November 03, 2009 05:17 PM (B5cM9) 33
BTW Ace here are my hopes for victory posts.
Hoffman and McConnell only- still a flaming skull Hoffman, McConnell & Christie-flaming skull with cowbell (preferably not Bon Jovi, I don't give a shit he's from Jersey and so is Christie. Bon Jovi is evil!) Hoffman, McConnell, Christie and CA-10 - All the above and accidental lesbian pron.....ABOVE the fold. Posted by: Rocks at November 03, 2009 05:17 PM (Q1lie) 34
Saw this posted a bit ago:
A Well-Connected Vet of Campaigns Tells Me [Kathryn Jean Lopez] Everything the RNC is looking at data-wise right now on New Jersey looks good for Christie. For what that's worth hours before the polls close... Posted by: Jay at November 03, 2009 05:17 PM (ZxE4n) 35
A true nightmare for Obama would be a R pulling close in CA-10. Any word on turnout from the left coast?
Posted by: Jean at November 03, 2009 05:17 PM (5ddCw) 36
The turnout ratio is not quite two to one, but it's not that far from it.
Two things spur that kind of turnout. Starry eyed enthusiasm for the candidate, or a smoldering anger at the current state of affairs. Tell me again Mr Axelrod..... (or anybody else that dismissed the teabaggers) .....that the Tea Parties weren't real and would have no electoral implications. Posted by: fixerupper at November 03, 2009 05:18 PM (J5Hcw) 37
Caveats Geraghty adds: Democrats vote later, etc. Well, with traffic and driving around from state to state, of course Democrats are going to vote later! Posted by: Gloria Steinam at November 03, 2009 05:18 PM (qP2BK) 38
Did anyone else hear about Obama's pithy answer when asked if he was going to be getting reports on the election returns tonight?
What a douche this guy is... Posted by: Jay at November 03, 2009 05:18 PM (ZxE4n) 39
"Ladies and Gentlemen, tonight, another replay of 1994, when the voters of this fine country had a temper tantrum, and voted in the Evil Republicans. This time, however, the apocalypse is nigh, as, not only have the voters thrown a temper tantrum, they've shit themselves, stomped their feet whilst holding their breath until their faces turn blue, vomited down their shirts, and, indeed, shredded the very Constitution by their disgusting installation of TRUE CONSERVATIVES into office, to replace the minions of Hell I have grown so close to over the several years since my unfortunate demise. Satan is pissed! He's called Harry Reid on the [Flaming] Red Phone several times today to express his displeasure, but Harry staunchly refuses to answer. Therefore the Dark Lord (not Obama, you morons, the REAL Dark Lord), has summoned all of us Zombie Newscasters and Politicians (Cronkite, Wellstone, Myself, Teddy Kennedy, Russert, "Big Ed" Bradley) to help, and we will . . . Of course, it's tough to help when we're condemned by G-D to burn for eternity in a lake of burning blood and piss, but at least we can let out a rousing cheer from the pits of Hell: Posted by: Zombie Peter Jennings at November 03, 2009 05:18 PM (sZOIi) 40
This is what the anti-social-cons don't get: The socially liberal fiscal-cons we elect tend to vote for other stupid liberal shit. For instance, affirmative action, Cash for Clunkers, Spendulus, Cap & Trade, Sonia Sotomayormccheeses, Hate Crime Laws, Lilly fucking Ledbetter, midnight basketball, etc. The liberal Republicans have a knack for being sucked into all the liberal positions, not just abortion. Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses at November 03, 2009 05:19 PM (UXddJ) 41
What time do polls close in NJ and NY? I know in VA it's at 7 pm.
Posted by: Intrepid at November 03, 2009 05:19 PM (92zkk) 42
Hoffman and McConnell only- still a flaming skull
Hoffman, McConnell & Christie-flaming skull with cowbell (preferably not Bon Jovi, I don't give a shit he's from Jersey and so is Christie. Bon Jovi is evil!) Hoffman, McConnell, Christie and CA-10 - All the above and accidental lesbian pron.....ABOVE the fold. Posted by: Rocks at November 03, 2009 05:17 PM (Q1lie) I suggest as flaming skull over a picture of a dagger thru health care Posted by: nevergiveup at November 03, 2009 05:19 PM (TfW4T) 43
What time do polls close in NJ
Posted by: Intrepid at November 03, 2009 05:19 PM (92zkk) None of your freaken buisness now vote hows I tells ya to Posted by: nevergiveup at November 03, 2009 05:20 PM (TfW4T) 44
Corzine: "It is not my fault Christie ate all his supporters ballots and has a total of -3."
Posted by: Entropy at November 03, 2009 05:21 PM (cok/k) 45
DO SOMETHING about those adds on your page that cover the topic.
Posted by: TimothyJ at November 03, 2009 05:21 PM (IKKIf) 46
"None of your freaken buisness now vote hows I tells ya to"
Heh - someone has probably already cast my vote for Corzine, even though I live in TN. At least I'm still alive, so my dead vote doesn't count. Posted by: Intrepid at November 03, 2009 05:22 PM (92zkk) 47
What's the under/over on the new mayor?
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 03, 2009 05:16 PM (TfW4T) The new mayor will not be as stupid as the old one. I think both of the main candidates did not fall for the okey doke sting that got Petey Camarano. So I give the new mayor 2 years (there is a lot of money floating around in my small one square mile city). Posted by: Shtetl G at November 03, 2009 05:22 PM (s2Bbk) 48
It was also a special Mayoral election because our Mayor only lasted 19 days before getting indicted for bribery.
Posted by: Shtetl G at November 03, 2009 05:14 PM (s2Bbk) Don't get discouraged. The next guy may make it a full three weeks. Posted by: WalrusRex at November 03, 2009 05:22 PM (xxgag) 49
Well, if Christie gets elected thank God it's not the presidency. Wouldn't want my record broken.
Posted by: zombie Wiliam Howard Taft. at November 03, 2009 05:23 PM (nxUYP) Posted by: fiatboomer at November 03, 2009 05:23 PM (0Wf6c) 51
DO SOMETHING about those adds on your page that cover the topic.
Firefox with Ad Block. I have no idea what you're talking about. Posted by: CUS at November 03, 2009 05:23 PM (wOGfT) Posted by: absentee ballot at November 03, 2009 05:24 PM (zqzYV) 53
""Democrats vote later, etc."
Often, days or weeks later." What's the point in voting before you know how many times you need to do it? Posted by: right at November 03, 2009 05:24 PM (EquV1) 54
Polls in NJ close at 8PM
Posted by: Mike H at November 03, 2009 05:24 PM (zqzYV) Posted by: Intrepid at November 03, 2009 05:26 PM (92zkk) 56
I think Charles Johnson of the Little Green Party should become the Homosexual candidate of choice.
Posted by: gus at November 03, 2009 05:26 PM (Vqruj) 57
""Democrats vote later, etc."
Often, days or weeks later." What's the point in voting before you know how many times you need to do it? Ah, you beat me to it. Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 03, 2009 05:27 PM (NtiET) Posted by: Mike H at November 03, 2009 05:28 PM (zqzYV) 59
I thought that the precious independant voters are turned off by all of the EVIL hate mongering of conservatives? Isn't that the official media story/
Posted by: TheQuietman at November 03, 2009 05:30 PM (1Jaio) 60
Come on New Jersey!!!
Posted by: Cooper at November 03, 2009 05:32 PM (DXHVe) 61
Well, where are all our moonbat douchebag friends this fine evening? Awful quiet they are.
Posted by: Troll Adjuster at November 03, 2009 05:34 PM (wgLRl) 62
Posted by: Troll Adjuster at November 03, 2009 05:34 PM (wgLRl) times like this i miss that banned racist Palin Steele... Posted by: YRM at November 03, 2009 05:35 PM (xNw7B) 63
"Democrats vote late"
Translation: Democrats do their very best to keep polls open past the closing time so they can cry "foul!" and claim they were disenfranchised. Posted by: Intrepid at November 03, 2009 05:35 PM (92zkk) Posted by: toby928 at November 03, 2009 05:36 PM (PD1tk) Posted by: WalrusRex at November 03, 2009 05:36 PM (xxgag) 66
"Tell me again Mr Axelrod..... (or anybody else that dismissed the
teabaggers) .....that the Tea Parties weren't real and would have no
electoral implications."
You are assuming Axelrod believed what he said. I have to disagree, Axelrod was well aware of the impact the Teabaggers were having and he was trying to marginalize them and throw some cold water on the movement through media hit pieces. Today's results are what Axelrod feared could happen if the movement continued to gain steam. The VA and NY-23 wins are just going to embolden teabaggers further now. Seems like the kos kids picked a good name for the tea party people, caused the dems are going to get teabagged big time tonight. Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 03, 2009 05:39 PM (HAdov) 67
Democrats vote later? Huh? People with jobs vote after 5 P.M. That is not a particularly Democrat-friendly demographic. Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at November 03, 2009 05:39 PM (wgLRl) 68
#67 The dead don't rise until after the sun goes down.
Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 03, 2009 05:44 PM (HAdov) 69
I voted for Corzine for one reason and one reason only. His groovy groovy beard. I believe the last Republican to have such a beard was Honest Abe Lincoln. Apparently Corzine is honest. Logic, don't leave home without it. Posted by: gus at November 03, 2009 05:52 PM (Vqruj) 70
Do you know what BON JOVI means???? Bon = good or pretty. Jovi = Evil. Bruce Springsteen is about the same. Springsteen = Evil Jew.
I do geneology. Posted by: gus at November 03, 2009 06:04 PM (Vqruj) 71
Just voted for Christie in West Orange. Took about 7 minutes, all in (so get out there and vote if you haven't already!). Brought my 11 year old in with me (his class is all over election-type stuff right now as its topical). Showed him the red line, he helped push some buttons, and then he hit the big red button (I like that the button to cast your ballot is red!). Wish I could go back and do that 100 more times!!!!
Posted by: shred21 at November 03, 2009 06:13 PM (d2ha6) 72
Ace should be live chatting this.
Posted by: DngrMse at November 03, 2009 06:16 PM (wynRm) 73
Seems like the kos kids picked a good name for the tea party people, caused the dems are going to get teabagged big time tonight.
Posted by: Just Another Poster at November 03, 2009 05:39 PM (HAdov) From my understanding of the term, that doesn't say what you think it says. Posted by: Bill R. at November 03, 2009 06:17 PM (EhlQq) Posted by: stuiec at November 03, 2009 06:18 PM (7AOgy) 75
Wish I could go back and do that 100 more times!!!!
Posted by: shred21 at November 03, 2009 06:13 PM (d2ha6) Why don't you? /Union guy Posted by: Gringo at November 03, 2009 06:24 PM (x1AYm) 76
Exits from #Virginia and #NJ: Virginia: McDonnell 54.5, Deeds 45 NJ: Corzine 47, Christie 47, Daggett barely registering. http://twitter.com/Andrew_Langer/status/5403381581 Posted by: Ruh Roh at November 03, 2009 06:26 PM (MrCPC) 77
@71, I already have. And my down to my last 40 ounce...
Posted by: Acorn Voter at November 03, 2009 06:27 PM (zqzYV) 78
I hope Christie wins by at least 5
Posted by: Matthew at November 03, 2009 06:37 PM (WVawV) 79
If it's a dead heat, it's a loss. A close election just means Corzine gets "whatever that guy got +1"
Posted by: Gringo at November 03, 2009 06:37 PM (x1AYm) 80
Win or lose, it's nice to a Republican be competitive in a corrupt blue state. We have those cocksucking Democrats looking over their shoulders, that's for sure! Posted by: Tweet's brain at November 03, 2009 06:37 PM (UXddJ) Posted by: RarestRX at November 03, 2009 06:38 PM (rmNST) 82
Exit polls always favor dems, dead heat means Christie is probably up by a few % at least.
Posted by: kefka at November 03, 2009 06:40 PM (n1uMU) 83
Hopefully Christie is doing better than a dead heat. Dead heats fall within the margin of fraud in NJ. 47-47 = Corzine victory (he is now up on Intrade) New Jersey deserves itself. Posted by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate at November 03, 2009 06:40 PM (Hj9yW) 84
The Dems just need to figure out how many votes they need to steal to win, and then simply go about doing it. Im sure they brought in some operatives from Minnesota to go over the old "ballot box found in the trunk of a (DFL) poll worker's car" gambit
Posted by: Ombudsman at November 03, 2009 06:41 PM (y4B2y) 85
But exit polls usually favor Democrats by a few points. If it's 47/47 in New Jersey, Christie may actually be up, say, 49/45. Remember 2004 when the exit polls showed John F-ing Kerry would sail to the presidency?
Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 03, 2009 06:42 PM (cxGtL) 86
Why wait? Or me! Posted by: bastacks of ballots in a trunk at November 03, 2009 06:42 PM (wAQA5) 87
At this very moment buses are cruising the streets of Passaic offering a free bumper of Colt 45 in exchange for a trip to the polls.
Posted by: Cicero at November 03, 2009 06:44 PM (QKKT0) 88
Dammit, they're gonna freakin' steal it.
Of COURSE they're going to steal it. And the Republican party (at least the McCain wing) doesn't have the balls to do anything about it Posted by: Ombudsman at November 03, 2009 06:45 PM (y4B2y) 89
This story about an entire wave of TX democrats switching to Republican is mind boggling: (via the other mccain) http://tinyurl.com/yjkjvwq
Posted by: sybilll at November 03, 2009 06:46 PM (yz7Gl) 90
The R's need to learn how to lawyer up appropriately. But, they may never get anywhere in a D dominated court system... They fought Franken pretty hard in Minnesota, didn't they?
Posted by: GregInSeattle at November 03, 2009 06:47 PM (B5cM9) 91
It ain't over till the fat guy grins.
Posted by: Jim Treacher at November 03, 2009 06:49 PM (cvmgB) Posted by: JavaJoe at November 03, 2009 06:49 PM (Am6n/) 93
The R's need to learn how to lawyer up appropriately. But, they may
never get anywhere in a D dominated court system... They fought
Franken pretty hard in Minnesota, didn't they?
There wasn't even any pretext of objectivity in Minnesota. That was brazen theft, pure and simple. Just proof that if you have brass balls, can lie with a straight face, and have a compliant judiciary, you can get away with anything. Posted by: Ombudsman at November 03, 2009 06:51 PM (y4B2y) 94
Don't forget if it's close the NJ courts allowed Frankenberg to fill the empty corrupt Torricelli suit with the ole bait and switch gambit.
Posted by: JavaJoe at November 03, 2009 06:51 PM (Am6n/) 95
New Jersey Stats To Ponder:
Coming Today Cristie Lead Averaged At + 1% In The Polls Gov. Corzine Has A Horrible 38% Approval Rating Obama Has A 55% Approval Rating In This State Posted by: YRM at November 03, 2009 06:54 PM (xNw7B) 96
"Dead heat" means the Democrats are going to win, right, once they cheat as per donkey SOP?
Posted by: Christoph at November 03, 2009 06:56 PM (56Gag) 97
For what its worth, INTRADE is exploding for Corzine right now. My experience with Intrade is that it reacts to every rumor.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 06:57 PM (Gm9rd) 98
As we learn at the end of the movie, all the action in "Planet of the Apes" takes place in New Jersey.
Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 03, 2009 06:57 PM (Qt4Y7) 99
My name and signature were on the roll twice in my Newark suburb. Only cast one ballot, but that's scary if you ask me.
Posted by: Dickie at November 03, 2009 06:57 PM (iNbic) Posted by: Gran at November 03, 2009 06:58 PM (kmmbv) 101
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But exit polls usually favor Democrats by a few points.
Yeah, but who knows now? The media is so biased, I wouldn't be surprised if they do what they did in the Kerry polls which is to release fake info so as to buoy the spirits of Democrats. Maybe they're accurate. Maybe they're overestimating R support to account for unintended biases inherent in exit polling. Maybe more Rs are talking to exit pollsters this year. Posted by: AmishDude at November 03, 2009 06:59 PM (T0NGe) 102
Posted by: Gran at November 03, 2009 06:58 PM (kmmbv) Intrade was voting for Palin to get dropped by the McCain camp Posted by: YRM at November 03, 2009 07:00 PM (xNw7B) Posted by: sybilll at November 03, 2009 07:03 PM (yz7Gl) 104
Intrade tends to have HUGE SWINGS late based upon every rumor.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 07:03 PM (Gm9rd) 105
Take the intrade stuff with a grain of salt. It's an easy system to game...like all online polls.
Posted by: DngrMse at November 03, 2009 07:04 PM (wynRm) 106
Intrade is probably factoring in the fraud part in this. When Christie wins by a few hundred votes the odds are that Corzine will be able to "find" the extra votes he needs to win.
Posted by: Donna at November 03, 2009 07:06 PM (6heFO) 107
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Shep said they are calling the VA race in just a few minutes? "This bear is in the woods. What is he doing? We'll tell you, coming up next... Posted by: AmishDude at November 03, 2009 07:07 PM (T0NGe) 108
Not sure what the are betting on on Intrade. I'm not seeing any early leaks.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 07:07 PM (Gm9rd) 109
Dead heat? That means we're fucked. Acorn has a couple of thousand mail in ballots "in the mail". When they get their check they'll show up with the ballots. We have to win, as Pat Cantrell a democrat said tonight, by a fraud proof margin. Posted by: Kemp at November 03, 2009 07:07 PM (2+9Yx) 110
what noi exit polling from va?
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 07:09 PM (Gm9rd) 111
What time do polls close in NJ and NY? I know in VA it's at 7 pm.
8pm in New Jersey, 9pm in New York. Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 03, 2009 07:13 PM (Qt4Y7) 112
Intrade significant tightening.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 07:18 PM (Gm9rd) 113
It ain't over till the fat guy grins NJ Democrats find the necessary number of ballots to win in a box in some guy's car.
Fixed. Posted by: OregonMuse at November 03, 2009 07:20 PM (eR37w) 114
It is really amazing how we're just considering fraud to be de rigeur. The fight is in the courts. We have to start making the argument that even a whiff of voter fraud disenfranchises legitimate voters. For example, a GOP state AG should charge any case of voter fraud with millions of counts. If somebody knowingly commits voter fraud, they disenfranchise every single voter.
If a vote is counted that shouldn't have been -- based on the law before the election took place -- then it disenfranchises voters who voted properly. And we have to use the word "disenfranchise". Posted by: AmishDude at November 03, 2009 07:20 PM (T0NGe) 115
Just voted for Christie in West Orange. Took about 7 minutes, all in (so get out there and vote if you haven't already!). Brought my 11 year old in with me (his class is all over election-type stuff right now as its topical). Showed him the red line, he helped push some buttons, and then he
hit the big red button (I like that the button to cast your ballot is
red!). Aww. My parents took me to the poll when they voted for Nixon in 1960. For years I thought a political machine was that big thing with the levers where you cast your vote. Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 03, 2009 07:22 PM (Qt4Y7) 116
It ain't over till the fat guy grins NJ Democrats find the necessary number of ballots to win in a box in some guy's dead gay hooker's car. Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses, unless they're gay at November 03, 2009 07:22 PM (UXddJ) 117
New Drew videos up.
Posted by: Tami at November 03, 2009 07:22 PM (VuLos) 118
Cynically, but accurately, we assume that Dems will steal close elections. Anything under 1% is up for grabs. In NJ, I fear the rules have changed. Since the ultimate enforcement on the law is Holder's Justice dept. the local Dems might feel frisky enough to try and steal an election that's within 2, 3 or even 5%.
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at November 03, 2009 07:23 PM (0xus/) 119
Remember last year when we (well, some of us) convinced ourselves the polls were wrong and the Pumas were going to ride to the rescue and elect McCain/Palin?
Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 03, 2009 07:31 PM (Qt4Y7) 120
Intrade continues to tighten.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 07:35 PM (Gm9rd) 121
Ask on Intrade for Christie just went to 50.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 07:49 PM (Gm9rd) 122
Christie rallying hard on Intrade
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:00 PM (Gm9rd) Posted by: ArandomPerson at November 03, 2009 08:01 PM (0a5L4) 124
But...don't the independents know that the GOP is the small tent, fringe party??
Posted by: kefka at November 03, 2009 08:01 PM (n1uMU) 125
Wtf? why am I red?
Posted by: 4ican at November 03, 2009 08:01 PM (dcUad) 126
I'm so excited I'm going to go out and lynch some moderates.
Posted by: Cicero at November 03, 2009 08:02 PM (QKKT0) Posted by: 4ican at November 03, 2009 08:03 PM (dcUad) 128
Sweep in VA. Yippee !!!
Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 03, 2009 08:03 PM (EL+OC) 129
FOX AND ABC CALL VA FOR GOP!!
Posted by: Kemp at November 03, 2009 08:03 PM (2+9Yx) 130
I guess Ace figured that we were getting drunker as the evening wore on so we needed the extra large and bright red font?
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 03, 2009 08:03 PM (RZ8pf) 131
I'd rather be dead than have to read everything in red.
Posted by: TexasJew at November 03, 2009 08:03 PM (1doBx) 132
This is like Netscape 1.0 in 1995.
Posted by: TexasJew at November 03, 2009 08:04 PM (1doBx) 133
The dead are voting late and often in NJ.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at November 03, 2009 08:04 PM (554T5) 134
SKULLS!!! WE NEED SKULLS!! Posted by: Carnac the Magnificent at November 03, 2009 08:04 PM (8zsWd) 135
O'Reilly says Corzine got 90% of the Black vote. R's gotta figure a way to do better with that demo... Hard I know, but probably needed.
Posted by: GregInSeattle at November 03, 2009 08:05 PM (B5cM9) Posted by: 4ican at November 03, 2009 08:05 PM (dcUad) 137
O'Reilly just said he thinks Christie is going to take NJ. I love the smell of napalm in the morning, It's the smell of VICTORY! Posted by: Kemp at November 03, 2009 08:07 PM (2+9Yx) 138
I'll take that smell anytime it's for the right cause!Hello.
Posted by: 4ican at November 03, 2009 08:09 PM (dcUad) 139
R's gotta figure a way to do better with that demo... Hard I know, but probably needed.
Posted by: GregInSeattle at November 03, 2009 08:05 PM (B5cM9) How about voting to pay over 4 trillion dollars in pointless Welfare? Oops. Already did that. How about worrying about the other 90% who actually are going to vote for you and stop kissing asses and pandering? Posted by: TexasJew at November 03, 2009 08:09 PM (1doBx) 140
Hoffman's way up on intrade too, if I'm reading it right, 85 to Owen's 13. Good news.
Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 03, 2009 08:09 PM (cxGtL) 141
Did I break Ace's site?
Posted by: TexasJew at November 03, 2009 08:10 PM (1doBx) 142
O'Reilly says Corzine got 90% of the Black vote. R's gotta figure a
way to do better with that demo... Hard I know, but probably needed.
We see how well that worked with Hispanics. Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 03, 2009 08:10 PM (EL+OC) Posted by: Kemp at November 03, 2009 08:10 PM (2+9Yx) 144
Babay!
Posted by: The Most Hirsute Man In the World (rdb) at November 03, 2009 08:11 PM (Nv1dM) 145
Corzine falling apart on Intrade. Bid down to 40.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:12 PM (Gm9rd) 146
If he wins, will Hoffman hand out free Strawberry Shlurpies at his spiffy campaign headquarters?
Posted by: TexasJew at November 03, 2009 08:13 PM (1doBx) 147
R's are a lost cause.They party looks for the movement on the ground and then co-op's the position as "real leadership." I say if you don't already have the three legs of the stool figured out by now,you ain't gonna. Conservative mind set is the direction.Always has been,always will be.Those whom moderate from that position,end up in the ditch. Posted by: 4ican at November 03, 2009 08:13 PM (dcUad) 148
The SEIU's got out the shovels and the hand trucks; if you've got a relative in an NJ cemetery you better go park your truck on the grave.
Posted by: mrkwong at November 03, 2009 08:14 PM (G8Eo0) 149
The thing that dems have most to worry about is Independents moving 2:1 to Republicans.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:15 PM (Gm9rd) Posted by: Ace's Site at November 03, 2009 08:15 PM (zqzYV) 151
I feel like Lot's wife, reading this nosebleed of a site.
Posted by: TexasJew at November 03, 2009 08:15 PM (1doBx) 152
At least it ain't purple.
Posted by: 4ican at November 03, 2009 08:17 PM (dcUad) 153
You feel like a pillar of salt?
Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 03, 2009 08:17 PM (cxGtL) Posted by: TexasJew at November 03, 2009 08:17 PM (1doBx) 155
This is fun. We haven't had a winning night in 5 long years. Who would have thought Obama would turn out to be a boon to our side?
Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 03, 2009 08:18 PM (cxGtL) 156
Muffin patrol.
Posted by: 4ican at November 03, 2009 08:18 PM (dcUad) 157
Its a Cheney Cougar Night, I tells ya.
Posted by: Lebowski at November 03, 2009 08:18 PM (DIYmd) 158
Right now they are counting tens of thousands of fake absentee votes for Corzine.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:18 PM (Gm9rd) 159
@151 "I feel like Lot's wife, reading this nosebleed of a site."
Mind if I chip off some of you to add to my soup? (old Dudley Moore movie w/ Dom DeLouise) Posted by: Intrepid at November 03, 2009 08:19 PM (92zkk) 160
Boy, Hillary must be pissed tonight.
Posted by: Mr. Pissed at November 03, 2009 08:19 PM (EL+OC) 161
Gentlemen,
Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet. However... I think we should start to fret over the state of the Democratic Party, and give them unsolicited advice to stop being such rabid crypto-fascist Marxists. Otherwise, they'll be doomed to permanent regional party status. BWAHAHAHAHAHahahaha!!!!! Posted by: CoolCzech at November 03, 2009 08:19 PM (QECjC) 162
You know, seeing my comments blown up and in blood-red makes me realize that I miss Dick Cheney. Posted by: TexasJew at November 03, 2009 08:20 PM (1doBx) 163
151
I feel like Lot's wife, reading this nosebleed of a site.
וַתַּבֵּט אִשְׁתֹּו מֵאַחֲרָיו וַתְּהִי נְצִיב מֶֽלַח׃ Posted by: Ace's Site at November 03, 2009 08:20 PM (zqzYV) Posted by: Intrepid at November 03, 2009 08:21 PM (92zkk) 165
If you don't think this will make the Blue Dogs in Congress bluer than ever ur dreamin.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:21 PM (Gm9rd) 166
BWAHAHAHAHAHahahaha!!!!! Posted by: CoolCzech at November 03, 2009 08:19 PM (QECjC) Can you imagine someone saying that in a Presidential debate? A sure debate-winner. Posted by: TexasJew at November 03, 2009 08:22 PM (1doBx) 167
וַתַּבֵּט אִשְׁתֹּו מֵאַחֲרָיו וַתְּהִי נְצִיב מֶֽלַח׃
But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt. Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 03, 2009 08:22 PM (cxGtL) 168
Even if we win just 1 its a gain, so I'm setting loose some of last years frustrations.
YeeHaaa. Also check out O pic on Drudge, hee hee. Posted by: Lebowski at November 03, 2009 08:22 PM (DIYmd) 169
First numbers in for NJ, Christie WAY up.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:23 PM (Gm9rd) 170
I feel like the writing is on the wall.
Posted by: Rahm's Ballet Slippers at November 03, 2009 08:24 PM (HjPtV) 171
You know, I am always amazed at how often the very first numbers you see on returns quite often hold up through the whole count. It's kind of like a poll in a way.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:26 PM (Gm9rd) 172
87 At this very moment buses are cruising the streets of Passaic offering a free bumper of Colt 45 in exchange for a trip to the polls. Don't laugh, when Harvey Gant ran against Jesse Helms and LOST. He got a black judge in Greensboro to hold the polls open for an extra hour. Harvey, who is black, then drove threw the black neighbors in Durham, the Harlem of the South, with a speaker on a car waking up blacks to try and find more votes in the hood. It didn't work, but don't put anything past them. Posted by: Kemp at November 03, 2009 08:26 PM (2+9Yx) Posted by: TexasJew at November 03, 2009 08:27 PM (1doBx) 174
If he wins, will Hoffman hand out free Strawberry Shlurpies at his spiffy campaign headquarters?
Drew hasn't had a chance to break out the case of Valu-Rite-- give him time. Posted by: PA Cat at November 03, 2009 08:27 PM (WKAth) 175
Christie up 61 to 29 over Corzine! Yeah, I know...it's early, democrats don't vote the second and third times til later in the evening, lost ballot boxes still undiscovered, blah blah blah.
Posted by: DngrMse at November 03, 2009 08:28 PM (wynRm) 176
I see that, in addition to the many other things he's got going this evening, Ace is also holding an HTML seminar. Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at November 03, 2009 08:28 PM (wgLRl) Posted by: TexasJew at November 03, 2009 08:28 PM (1doBx) 178
171
You know, I am always amazed at how often the very first numbers you
see on returns quite often hold up through the whole count. It's kind
of like a poll in a way.
Other times rural votes come in first, and show Republicans winning, then all of a sudden you get a huge influx from some Democratic stronghold and it throws the race. My own state of Oregon does this--the rural vote comes in showing a big lead for whomever the conservative is, then whammo, Portland votes start flowing in and the whole thing goes to shit. That was before we went to an entirely vote-by-mail system, BTW. Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 03, 2009 08:29 PM (cxGtL) 179
178
171
You know, I am always amazed at how often the very first numbers you
see on returns quite often hold up through the whole count. It's kind
of like a poll in a way. (fixed)
Other times rural votes come in first, and show Republicans winning, then all of a sudden you get a huge influx from some Democratic stronghold and it throws the race. My own state of Oregon does this--the rural vote comes in showing a big lead for whomever the conservative is, then whammo, Portland votes start flowing in and the whole thing goes to shit. That was before we went to an entirely vote-by-mail system, BTW. Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 03, 2009 08:29 PM (cxGtL) 180
It's a red letter day for the GOP.
Posted by: WaPo at November 03, 2009 08:29 PM (xWnUn) 181
Wait till the dead people start to vote...
Posted by: TexasJew at November 03, 2009 08:29 PM (1doBx) 182
#175 Remember we want the northwest NJ counties to report last, so that Newark and Camden won't know what figures they have to beat. These places make Ole Mayor Daily's Chicago look like a playground Posted by: Kemp at November 03, 2009 08:30 PM (2+9Yx) 183
Somewhere, a Light Worker is crying..
Posted by: TexasJew at November 03, 2009 08:32 PM (1doBx) 184
David Brooks wants to know if pant creases can vote.
Posted by: TexasJew at November 03, 2009 08:33 PM (1doBx) 185
Corzine in full blown meltdown on Intrade now for what it's worth.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:33 PM (Gm9rd) 186
I just read that Obama isn't even watching the election results tonight - he is watching the Bulls game.
Well, that makes sense that he would rather watch basketball than hear the voices of Americans. Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:34 PM (Gm9rd) 187
185 Corzine in full blown meltdown on Intrade now for what it's worth.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:33 PM (Gm9rd) Not much. We're counting real votes now, so who gives a shit? Posted by: TexasJew at November 03, 2009 08:35 PM (1doBx) 188
RS McCain wants Drew to meet him in the Hotel Saranac restaurant so's they can have a "mini-Ace-O-Palooza".
Posted by: mrp at November 03, 2009 08:35 PM (HjPtV) Posted by: Gran at November 03, 2009 08:35 PM (kmmbv) Posted by: Kemp at November 03, 2009 08:35 PM (2+9Yx) 191
Well, that makes sense that he would rather watch basketball than hear the voices of Americans.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:34 PM (Gm9rd) Well, in any case, that's a good excuse to avoid Wookie-cooties tonight. Posted by: TexasJew at November 03, 2009 08:37 PM (1doBx) 192
If Christie wins, do we get the flaming skull?
Posted by: Y-not, the pragmatic pro-life pro-defense non-soc-con conservative who hates labels at November 03, 2009 08:37 PM (sey23) Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:37 PM (Gm9rd) Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 03, 2009 08:38 PM (Qt4Y7) 195
Christie has to really perform to beat all the dead voters for Corzine.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:38 PM (Gm9rd) 196
If Christie smashes Corzine with Independents and still loses you know the cheat was in.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:39 PM (Gm9rd) 197
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:37 PM (Gm9rd) What's Frank Luntz doing tonight? Is he hooking up another collection of mouthbreathing roadkill to one of his sympathy-meters? Posted by: TexasJew at November 03, 2009 08:40 PM (1doBx) 198
Christie up 55 to 38 with 4% in.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:41 PM (Gm9rd) Posted by: Fake Votes at November 03, 2009 08:42 PM (DIYmd) 200
"In Trade" has Corzine down 20 pts. to thirty percent in the last half hour!!! ;-)
Posted by: Ad rem at November 03, 2009 08:42 PM (yPHLS) 201
The biggest indicator of how well Christie is doing right now is the In-Trade number. He's up 61 to 33 there. Nice.
Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 03, 2009 08:42 PM (cxGtL) 202
I Christie manages to win and win by more than 5 points, that is a HUGE BLOW to Obama since he campaigned hard for Corzine.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:42 PM (Gm9rd) 203
Who's Daggett supposed to be ganking votes from in this race?
Posted by: DngrMse at November 03, 2009 08:45 PM (wynRm) Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 03, 2009 08:46 PM (Qt4Y7) 205
So, what is the margin of fraud in New Jersey? 3%? Posted by: U.S.S. Yorktown at November 03, 2009 08:48 PM (5RlWq) 206
where is Michale Barone breaking down counties for me. I need Barone.
Posted by: lance at November 03, 2009 08:48 PM (UTUtU) Posted by: DngrMse at November 03, 2009 08:49 PM (wynRm) Posted by: GMan at November 03, 2009 08:49 PM (zQiqq) 209
In my experience, the big dem districts will hold their vote counts until right at the end to see how many votes they need to make Corzine the winner.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:49 PM (Gm9rd) 210
Bah, I was hopin' for some change.
Posted by: GMan at November 03, 2009 08:50 PM (zQiqq) 211
okay, not to be a prick, but we can all see the link to the NJ election results that Ace posted. Do we really need the running vote counts posted in this thread?
Posted by: /dev/null at November 03, 2009 08:50 PM (7lAxC) 212
Can we get some cowbell up in here?
Posted by: frode at November 03, 2009 08:51 PM (10g/H) 213
211- if you don't like it dev nell, switch to another thread. I, personally like reading the posters comments and poll number updates.
Posted by: Sassypants at November 03, 2009 08:51 PM (RZYUj) 214
I guess not. People get caught up in the moment, Mr. Damp Sponge, and they like to post things as they happen.
Posted by: DngrMse at November 03, 2009 08:52 PM (wynRm) 215
Yeah, me too, dev nell. Piss off.
Posted by: Peaches at November 03, 2009 08:52 PM (9Wv2j) 216
wow Christie 54% to 40% with 15% in.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:53 PM (Gm9rd) 217
Hey, I prefaced that suggestion with a friendly "not to be a prick" - right before the part where I was a prick. I thought that absolved me from criticism...
Posted by: /dev/null at November 03, 2009 08:54 PM (7lAxC) 218
Age of Conan CD Key Burberry scarf: http://www.scarves-store.com Posted by: jason at November 03, 2009 08:54 PM (kaVxu) 219
Obly is running a World Series special, think he knows this is election night? Oh, never mind, don't tell, let's just shove it up his ass in the morning. Posted by: Kemp at November 03, 2009 08:54 PM (2+9Yx) 220
Remember, we won't know for sure until the Slow Zombie vote comes in...
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 03, 2009 08:55 PM (QECjC) 221
I'm just waiting for a HUGE vote dump for Corzine at the last minute.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:55 PM (Gm9rd) 222
I'd like to see Christie widen that lead a bit, before the heavy dem districts, (Newark, Camden, Graveyards), start reporting. :/
Posted by: DngrMse at November 03, 2009 08:55 PM (wynRm) Posted by: Crusty at November 03, 2009 08:55 PM (qzgbP) 224
Virginia is nice ('specially since I live here), New Jersey will be great, and if we can swing the special in NY I'd be one happy man for the next week or so.
Posted by: Rasputin at November 03, 2009 08:56 PM (JCSGM) 225
#217 No way. You're not absolved until you've bought the assembled masses a round.
Posted by: DngrMse at November 03, 2009 08:56 PM (wynRm) 226
In 2005, Gloucester county was a perfect microcosm of the rest of NJ, having almost the exact same vote % for Corzine as the final tally in the state. In 2008, again, Gloucester County's vote % for Obama was very, very close to the state-wide average.
Why do I say that? Because with 78% of the precincts reporting, Christie leads in Gloucester County by 2.5 points. Still to close to call, but I'd say that's good news. Posted by: Mariner at November 03, 2009 08:57 PM (ohmHG) 227
Long way to go yet. NRO (final countdownblog) notes that Christie HQ has an 'open bar' going and is ready for a long night. /and 300+ lawyers on standby if needed Posted by: ArandomPerson at November 03, 2009 08:59 PM (0a5L4) Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 03, 2009 08:59 PM (Qt4Y7) 229
Well, right now it looks like McDonnell did about 5% better than his best polling numbers and Christie is doing about 5% better than his best polling numbers.
This tells us that pollsters are oversampling Democrats by at least 5%. Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 08:59 PM (Gm9rd) Posted by: DngrMse at November 03, 2009 09:00 PM (wynRm) 231
The margin in VA (with 80% reporting) is still 21.4%. That's a fucking rout. That's amazing.
Posted by: Rasputin at November 03, 2009 09:00 PM (JCSGM) Posted by: LC LaWedgie at November 03, 2009 09:01 PM (o+Cwv) 233
Okay, polls are now closed in NY. More numbers, please, nom nom nom.
Posted by: Peaches at November 03, 2009 09:01 PM (9Wv2j) 234
Wow, Corzine just got a massive vote dump and narrowed race from 11 points to 5 points in one swath. I expected that. All those fake absentee ballots being counted.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:02 PM (Gm9rd) Posted by: Y-not, pun Queen at November 03, 2009 09:03 PM (sey23) Posted by: Y-not at November 03, 2009 09:03 PM (sey23) 237
Heh - watching Fox now, and Eric Cantor is on with former VA Gov Whats'his name, and the Gov is about a foot taller than Cantor! Cantor must be really short.
Posted by: Women at November 03, 2009 09:03 PM (92zkk) 238
I've been refreshing the link ace posted for NJ results, and it's been at 0.00% the whole time. Don't know why. I'm getting the results from New Jersey Network election coverage on TV.
Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 03, 2009 09:04 PM (Qt4Y7) Posted by: Intrepid at November 03, 2009 09:05 PM (92zkk) 240
Typically, a 6 point lead with 28% of the vote in would be insurmountable. However, this is NJ and I would not be surprised if they have 100,000 Corzine votes sitting in a garage somewhere.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:05 PM (Gm9rd) 241
R50, D44, I7 with 28% in
Posted by: Y-not at November 03, 2009 09:06 PM (sey23) 242
When Martha was on BOR she had up the stats stating that NJ voters prefer MORE gov't than less...stupid asshats. Who wants to trade them to China for a mule? Posted by: TexMex at November 03, 2009 09:07 PM (rWkts) 243
Why was Rove talking about a double-digit lead for Christie? Was he referring to exit polls?
Posted by: Y-not at November 03, 2009 09:10 PM (sey23) Posted by: The Klan at November 03, 2009 09:12 PM (YX6i/) 245
If Corzine can overcome a 9 point deficit with almost 50% of the vote in, I think it will be the first time I've ever seen that big of a gap closed this late.
I ame SURE all the heavily Dem dustricts are holding their numbers back to see how many they need. Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:12 PM (Gm9rd) 246
Why was Rove talking about a double-digit lead for Christie? Was he referring to exit polls?
He might have been talking about independents. Posted by: kefka at November 03, 2009 09:13 PM (n1uMU) 247
Intrade Corzine down to 29, Christie has a big fat 60.
Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 03, 2009 09:13 PM (cxGtL) 248
Christie is doing VERY well in Monmouth County. Monmouth county is the most populated GOP-leaning county. This sounds to me like a strong, energetic GOTV effort on the part of the GOP. Yet more good news. He's up 32 points, while he would only need to be up 19 points if the voting breakdown was identical to 2005.
And with 92% of the precincts reporting, Christie is leading by 3.3 points in Gloucester County. Posted by: Mariner at November 03, 2009 09:13 PM (ohmHG) 249
no offense to him but Hoffman is not good on TV
Posted by: YRM at November 03, 2009 09:14 PM (xNw7B) 250
#243 At one point, he was up over ten percent on Corzine...even now, he's up just over 50k votes on Corzine. Newark, and Camden together can overcome that lead though. It depends on turnout.
I wish the NJ state site included a map. Posted by: DngrMse at November 03, 2009 09:14 PM (wynRm) 251
Man this guy Hoffman really is a dork, God bless him.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:14 PM (Gm9rd) 252
Hannity inteviewing Hoffman now, saying that some of the machines are having problems, and some ballots are being held by court order.
Better start Irishing up this coffee, we'll be here a while. Posted by: Doc at November 03, 2009 09:14 PM (rzJpR) 253
Oh crap - the Klan was an old sock from last night. How the hell did that happen.
Disclaimer: The Klan is not for Christie. Posted by: Editor at November 03, 2009 09:14 PM (YX6i/) 254
Corzine in free fall. Down to 20 in seconds.
Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 03, 2009 09:14 PM (cxGtL) Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 03, 2009 09:15 PM (Qt4Y7) 256
Intrade down to 15!
Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 03, 2009 09:16 PM (cxGtL) 257
The Times' website actually is doing a good job of covering it complete with a good map and everything.
51.5 - 42.2 right now with 32 reporting. Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 03, 2009 09:16 PM (dwwPD) 258
Vote fraud in Camden has been reported as extreme with 15x as many mail-in votes as usual.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:16 PM (Gm9rd) 259
well is it 29 or 50 percent of districts reporting???
Posted by: Sassypants at November 03, 2009 09:16 PM (RZYUj) 260
29 according to the NJ Sec. of State.
Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 03, 2009 09:17 PM (cxGtL) 261
Wow, Intrade full collapse for Corzine. We'll see.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:17 PM (Gm9rd) 262
Lets go Cougaring!
Posted by: Dick Cheney at November 03, 2009 09:17 PM (DIYmd) 263
Fox says +10% with 36% reporting
Posted by: Editor at November 03, 2009 09:18 PM (YX6i/) 264
well is it 29 or 50 percent of districts reporting???
My source (29%) is either slower or more conservative in getting out the numbers. Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 03, 2009 09:18 PM (Qt4Y7) 265
Hoffman would probably the best accountant you could ever hope for. Knows his numbers, doesn't party much. Keeps to the books.
Not so much a vibrant political candidate, but still, someone we need in congress to help us understand what the Dem's bills really mean. Posted by: Intrepid at November 03, 2009 09:18 PM (92zkk) 266
NJ.COM link quit updating... I guess da union bosses toined it off.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at November 03, 2009 09:19 PM (o+Cwv) Posted by: Y-not at November 03, 2009 09:19 PM (sey23) 268
Wow, based upon the map, this is over, Christie wins.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:19 PM (Gm9rd) 269
This thing is a done deal. In trade has Corzine down to 10. There's no way to recover from that. I'm calling it for Christie.
Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 03, 2009 09:20 PM (cxGtL) 270
Texmex ,,I'd really rather we didn't have to give China a good mule for them to take New Jersey .
Posted by: awkward davies at November 03, 2009 09:20 PM (wb68R) 271
That was funny Bill. We both called it at exactly the same time.
Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 03, 2009 09:20 PM (cxGtL) 272
NJ.COM link quit updating... I guess da union bosses toined it off.
Uh, no. Now it's showing 52-42 with 36% reported. Posted by: Peaches at November 03, 2009 09:21 PM (9Wv2j) 273
Man, coulda made some bank on Intrade earlier today.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:21 PM (Gm9rd) 274
CLOSING TAGS! Posted by: Zimriel at November 03, 2009 09:22 PM (rtzHA) 275
+11 with 37%
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Holy chit, mang. Christie is leading by nearly 100k votes. Even with the dead vote, this lead will be hard for Corzine to overcome.
Posted by: DngrMse at November 03, 2009 09:22 PM (wynRm) 277
Cavuto has an interesting historian on right now on Fox Business.
Posted by: Y-not at November 03, 2009 09:22 PM (sey23) 278
Pookie! Calling Cousin Pookie in New Jersey! Get off your lazy, fat ass and get out and vote! (it's ok that polls have closed, we have folks who can take care of that)
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Shooter,
Well, we'll see. If Christie wins, we can kiss ObamaCare and Cap n Tax forever. No Democrat in a purple state will DARE vote for that steaming pile. Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:23 PM (Gm9rd) 280
Corzine down to single digits on Intrade.
Posted by: Gran at November 03, 2009 09:23 PM (kmmbv) 281
something fishy. Camden not showing any votes yet? what are they waiting for? Cook County Part Two?
Posted by: 2010orBust at November 03, 2009 09:24 PM (/mbDE) 282
Yep,
I agree that a 100,000 vote lead will be difficult to overcome, even with vote cheating. If Christie wins this by double digits, that is HUUUGE. Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:26 PM (Gm9rd) 283
Gloucester finished reporting. Christie won by 3.4 points.
Again, Gloucester was an exact replica of NJ as a whole in both 2005 and 2008. I'm starting to feel pretty good about this race. By the way, if there's any bad news for the GOP so far, it's that McDonnell's coattails aren't extending to the General Assembly seats as much as some hoped. The GOP will pick up a few seats, but I doubt they hit the 5-8 number some were predicting. Posted by: Mariner at November 03, 2009 09:26 PM (ohmHG) Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 03, 2009 09:26 PM (Qt4Y7) 285
@281 - of course, they need to know how many "votes" to "count".
Posted by: DocJ at November 03, 2009 09:27 PM (AWzOz) 286
Camden is 45% in with Corzine only ahead by 8%. Not good for Corzine.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:27 PM (Gm9rd) 287
Peaches at November 03, 2009 09:21 PM -
Ok, thanks.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at November 03, 2009 09:28 PM (o+Cwv) 288
286 - where do you see Camden in? I am looking at the NJ website I don't see it?
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Posted by: Editor at November 03, 2009 09:28 PM (YX6i/) 290
It looks like the bigger dem districts are starting to come in. Hold on to your asses, gentlemen, this is the scary part.
Posted by: DngrMse at November 03, 2009 09:28 PM (wynRm) 291
Holy God, Corzine just picked up 50,000 votes at one time from somewhere! Wow, have NEVER seen a vote dump like that before.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:29 PM (Gm9rd) 292
wow. We might just be able to pull this thing off.
Posted by: Sassypants at November 03, 2009 09:29 PM (RZYUj) 293
And just like that - from the 37% update to the 44% update, Jon CorSachs shaves 5-points and 30K off Christie's lead.
Posted by: DocJ at November 03, 2009 09:29 PM (AWzOz) 294
50,000 votes for Corzine and none for Christie? Must be all those absentee voters from camden being counted.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:30 PM (Gm9rd) 295
Republican Diebold vote fraud! It's Florida all over again!
Posted by: Your Asshole Liberal Douchebag Friends at November 03, 2009 09:31 PM (6yEzu) 296
50,000 Acorned Votes? Yep, they strike again.
Posted by: 2010orBust at November 03, 2009 09:31 PM (/mbDE) 297
Damn. Nothing fishy about that, is there?
Posted by: Peaches at November 03, 2009 09:32 PM (9Wv2j) 298
Heh - Shep sounds disappointed over the BLOWOUT in VA.
Posted by: Editor at November 03, 2009 09:35 PM (YX6i/) 299
49-44 with 48% reporting
Posted by: Peaches at November 03, 2009 09:35 PM (9Wv2j) 300
Ive watched elections for a long time and I've never seen a candidate pick up 5% points in one swath with half the votes in before. That is truly extraordinary.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:36 PM (Gm9rd) 301
shit. the lead narrowed a ton. WTF?
Posted by: Sassypants at November 03, 2009 09:37 PM (RZYUj) 302
2010orBust at November 03, 2009 09:31 PM -
It's really hard to mark those ballots around the corner in the alley with a flashlight in your mouth.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at November 03, 2009 09:37 PM (o+Cwv) 303
At 79% of the precincts reporting, Christie has a 0.5 point lead. If Christie can keep the vote within 2 points or so, that's a good sign
Posted by: Mariner at November 03, 2009 09:38 PM (ohmHG) 304
Lead steady @ +4 with 57%
Posted by: Editor at November 03, 2009 09:38 PM (YX6i/) 305
Acorned 50K votes. Pathetic just like last year.
Posted by: 2010orBust at November 03, 2009 09:38 PM (/mbDE) 306
Ive watched elections for a long time and I've never
seen a candidate pick up 5% points in one swath with half the votes in
before. That is truly extraordinary.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:36 PM (Gm9rd) Not with ACORN on the job. Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 03, 2009 09:39 PM (pbnf9) 307
Are Burlington and Salem Dem Counties or Republican?
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:39 PM (Gm9rd) 308
Christie 50-44 w/58% reporting
Posted by: Gran at November 03, 2009 09:40 PM (kmmbv) 309
anyone here from NJ who can tell us what the remaining counties are dem/rep?
Posted by: 2010orBust at November 03, 2009 09:40 PM (/mbDE) 310
Christie building back up to a 100k lead again.
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Christie lead back to 96,000.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:41 PM (Gm9rd) 313
http://elections.nytimes.com/2009/results/new-jersey.html
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:42 PM (Gm9rd) 314
Is Burlington Dem or Republican and by how much?
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:43 PM (Gm9rd) 315
Bill, srsly? NYTimes? Once again, they must be making shit up, because we're all looking at the official NJ website.
Posted by: Peaches at November 03, 2009 09:43 PM (9Wv2j) 316
307, Burlington can go both ways, has become increasingly GOP in recent years though, but Obama ripped there last year IIRC. Salem's a toss up.
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 03, 2009 09:44 PM (dwwPD) 317
Caveats Geraghty adds: Democrats vote later, etc.
In fact some times they do it after the election is over with. Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 03, 2009 09:44 PM (pbnf9) 318
I believe Salam is republican as is burlington although they both went to Obama last election. I think Salem has a republican rep in congress.
Posted by: Reality Man at November 03, 2009 09:44 PM (l0WG5) 319
318, correct. Salem's one of those places that tends to vote GOP in bigger elections and Dem in smaller ones.
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 03, 2009 09:45 PM (dwwPD) 320
316 - Obama was a white guilt one trick vehicle for the dems. He ain't gonna push anybody over the finish line. He is what he is and nothing more. Don't mean that as racist either just the facts.
Posted by: 2010orBust at November 03, 2009 09:46 PM (/mbDE) 321
well according to Intrade, this is done.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:46 PM (Gm9rd) 322
309 - I grew up there, haven't been back in 12 years but from what I know
Dem counties - Essex, Union, Hudson, Camden, Mercer, Passaic, Bergen, Atlantic GOP counties - Sussex, Warren, Hunterdon, Morris, Salem, Somerset, Ocean, Cape May, Cumberland Mixed - Middlesex, Monmouth, Gloucester, Burlington Caveat - The Dems hold most of the counties with the much high populations Posted by: kbdabear at November 03, 2009 09:46 PM (sYxEE) 323
If Burlington and Salem are republican, Christie could win this by double-digits.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:47 PM (Gm9rd) 324
50-44 with 58% reporting
Posted by: Peaches at November 03, 2009 09:47 PM (9Wv2j) 325
It also depends how much of the other counties have reported. for example a heavy Corzine county may have only reported 1% so far, we will just have to see here.
Posted by: Reality Man at November 03, 2009 09:47 PM (l0WG5) 326
For what it's worth, NY Times calling NYC for Bloomberg.
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 03, 2009 09:48 PM (dwwPD) 327
thanks for the data kbda
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:48 PM (Gm9rd) 328
Bleah. My friend in NJ tells me game-changing numbers are incoming. :/
Posted by: DngrMse at November 03, 2009 09:48 PM (wynRm) 329
Do ya'll remember that mayor that sounded drunk election night in a county in Illinois who was holding up the vote? OMG if I was not so pissed off that night it would have been funny. I see that crap happening now.
Posted by: 2010orBust at November 03, 2009 09:49 PM (/mbDE) 330
Who is your friend and what do they have to do with the election? Sit on their ass and watch the results like the rest of us?
Posted by: Editor at November 03, 2009 09:50 PM (YX6i/) 331
One caveat, looks like some of the heavy dem counties are only about 75% in. any of the Republican counties in more.
We'll see. Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:50 PM (Gm9rd) 332
again 100k votes this late is tough to overcome. especially since burlingto probably wont hurt Christie and Salem will help him.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:51 PM (Gm9rd) 333
#330 Pretty much. He's getting his info from the radio, I think. But he's there, man.
Posted by: DngrMse at November 03, 2009 09:52 PM (wynRm) 334
I'm looking at the "color" codes for this
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Whoever asked about that 50K vote batch at once for Corzine, it probably came from Hudson County. They're so crooked there that Corzine would get those votes if he was dead.
Posted by: kbdabear at November 03, 2009 09:53 PM (sYxEE) 336
good news, burlington coming in for Christie by 6%.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:54 PM (Gm9rd) 337
The kiss of death for Christie will be, of course, if there is are "recounts."
After all, one wag recently noted that each time there was a recount during the Iranian elections Ahmedhandjob kept getting more and more votes... just like in America. Posted by: CoolCzech at November 03, 2009 09:55 PM (QECjC) 338
Good news. 84% of essex is in and Corzine is down by 100,000.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:55 PM (Gm9rd) 339
Remember when a 7-point GOP lead with 64% of precincts in felt safe, and you didn't worry about things like voter fraud?
Yeah. Me neither. Posted by: crusty the wonder sock at November 03, 2009 09:55 PM (7lAxC) 340
I'm getting a very strong feeling that this race is over. I checked the estimated voter turnout per county and compared it to turnout in 2005. To put it bluntly, turnout was higher in red-leaning counties than blue counties. Couple that with the excellent performance Christie had in these counties, and I'd say this is a race that's going to be outside the realm of a recount.
Unfortunately, I have a bad feeling about NY-23... Posted by: Mariner at November 03, 2009 09:56 PM (ohmHG) 341
678.5K Christie vs. 614.2 K Corruptzine at the moment, up on Drudge
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 03, 2009 09:57 PM (QECjC) 342
Wow, Hoffman was polling 15 points ahead of Owens in NY-23 and right now he is getting slaughtered. Weird.
That may end up being good as it will scare us away from 3rd party BS in 2010. Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:58 PM (Gm9rd) 343
anyone checking the numbers for NY-23?
Posted by: Sassypants at November 03, 2009 09:59 PM (RZYUj) 344
Cool, Drudge is waaaay behind. Check http://elections.nytimes.com/2009/results/new-jersey.html
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:59 PM (Gm9rd) Posted by: DngrMse at November 03, 2009 10:00 PM (wynRm) 346
Via RCP; Nearly an hour after polls closed in NY, results for the 23rd are coming in at a snail's pace. The NYT page has 8% reporting, with Owens winning 53% to Hoffman's 42% and Scozzafava at 4%. But that's a total of less than 10,000 votes.
Posted by: flenser at November 03, 2009 10:00 PM (xWnUn) 347
722.7K Christie vs. 631.9 K Corruptzine...
If Christie pulls this off, and pulls it off BIG... Poor Dingy Harry Reid will have to announce that a vote on Healthcare Reform may have to be put off until... oh, I don't know... 2030? Posted by: CoolCzech at November 03, 2009 10:00 PM (QECjC) 348
Sassy, Ace has a link up at the top of the NY-23 post. Right now Owens is ahead by 5% with 77 of 606 precincts reporting.
Posted by: Peaches at November 03, 2009 10:00 PM (9Wv2j) Posted by: DngrMse at November 03, 2009 10:01 PM (wynRm) Posted by: CoolCzech at November 03, 2009 10:02 PM (QECjC) 351
thanks, Peaches.
Posted by: Sassypants at November 03, 2009 10:02 PM (RZYUj) 352
From what I am seeing, Corzine will have to take pretty much 100% of the remaining votes in Dem leaning counties to bridge the gap. Considering he is only getting 68% of Essex with 84% in, I don;t think that is gonna happen.
I'm calling this for Christie. Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 10:04 PM (Gm9rd) 353
I'm calling this for Christie.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 10:04 PM (Gm9rd) Remember though, ACORN and the SEIU thugs are on hand, prepared to help body temperature-challenged persons vote... Posted by: CoolCzech at November 03, 2009 10:05 PM (QECjC) 354
Christie now 103,000 ahead. How can Fox saying this is that close? It isn't. The BIG dem counties are almost all in and Salem hasn't even reported yet.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 10:06 PM (Gm9rd) 355
Christopher J. Christie Rep. 877,888 49.8%
Jon S. Corzine Dem. 774,167 43.9 Posted by: CoolCzech at November 03, 2009 10:08 PM (QECjC) 356
holding steady at 50-44 with 71% reporting
Posted by: Peaches at November 03, 2009 10:08 PM (9Wv2j) 357
71% reporting
Christie 50%
Corzine 44%
Posted by: Steph at November 03, 2009 10:09 PM (/CtkQ) 358
If Hoffman loses tonight, it will once again prove the "McCain Factor". That is, "You can't win with bad teeth..."
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 10:09 PM (Gm9rd) 359
Christie now 103,000 ahead. How can Fox saying this is that close? It isn't. The BIG dem counties are almost all in and Salem hasn't even reported yet. 'Cause they haven't started counting us yet, bitches! Posted by: Fraudulent absentee ballots at November 03, 2009 10:10 PM (qP2BK) 360
The kiss of death for Christie will be, of course, if there is are "recounts."
After all, one wag recently noted that each time there was a recount during the Iranian elections Ahmedhandjob kept getting more and more votes... just like in America. Posted by: CoolCzech at November 03, 2009 09:55 PM (QECjC) Tell me about it! Posted by: Dino Rossi at November 03, 2009 10:12 PM (qP2BK) 361
I'm getting nervous that the vote counting has slwoed to a trickle in NJ. Makes me think they are printing votes off in the back.
Still, 103,000 really tough to overcome this late. Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 10:12 PM (Gm9rd) 362
Hmmm. NBC just reversed it's NYC call for Bloomberg.
Posted by: DngrMse at November 03, 2009 10:13 PM (wynRm) 363
NJ site calling it for Chrisite!!!
Posted by: Steph at November 03, 2009 10:13 PM (/CtkQ) 364
Holy God, Corzine just picked up 50,000 votes at one time from somewhere! Wow, have NEVER seen a vote dump like that before.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 09:29 PM (Gm9rd) Obviously you weren't in WA state in 2004.... Posted by: Dino Rossi at November 03, 2009 10:13 PM (qP2BK) 365
its all over but the shouting on Intrade.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 10:13 PM (Gm9rd) 366
The Associated Press calls New Jersey for Chris Christie.
Posted by: flenser at November 03, 2009 10:13 PM (xWnUn) 367
But...don't the independents know that the GOP is the small tent, fringe party?? I prefer ruffles to fringe. Posted by: Zombie of Liberace at November 03, 2009 10:14 PM (qP2BK) 368
My Seattle Times headline email just came in saying Christie wins.
Posted by: anne at November 03, 2009 10:15 PM (uJBct) 369
drudge has christie winning too
Posted by: Sassypants at November 03, 2009 10:16 PM (RZYUj) Posted by: Ballots stuck on shoes, Ballots inside cars, ballots that were stuck to the bottom of the voting mac at November 03, 2009 10:16 PM (qP2BK) 371
Time for that glass of wine.
Posted by: flenser at November 03, 2009 10:16 PM (xWnUn) 372
371 - i agree.
Posted by: Sassypants at November 03, 2009 10:17 PM (RZYUj) 373
CHRISTIE WINS, AP SAYS The Associated Press calls New Jersey for Chris Christie. Will others follow? Christie's lead is up to 6 percent....Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 10:17 PM (Gm9rd) 374
awesomeness.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 10:17 PM (Gm9rd) 375
Christie 49-45 with 79% in.
Posted by: Gran at November 03, 2009 10:18 PM (kmmbv) 376
Anybody else notice how close the Mayoral race in NYC is?
Posted by: Sean at November 03, 2009 10:18 PM (sHxOn) 377
FOX too just called it for Christie.
Posted by: Tami at November 03, 2009 10:19 PM (VuLos) 378
FNC calls it for Christie!!!!
Posted by: Gran at November 03, 2009 10:19 PM (kmmbv) 379
21% reporting in NY23 and Democrat Bill Owens is up 8. No sense of which votes are in and which are still out. --TOM BEVAN
Posted by: flenser at November 03, 2009 10:19 PM (xWnUn) 380
Lol, NBC and AP calling for Christie. CNN REFUSES to call it, lol. Refers to race as dead heat.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 10:22 PM (Gm9rd) 381
CNN just called for Christie!
HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY DANCE! Man, and Obama went there 3 times for him. How the HELL does a Republican win in friggin NJ?! Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 10:24 PM (Gm9rd) 382
49-44 with 81% reporting
Posted by: Peaches at November 03, 2009 10:24 PM (9Wv2j) 383
Yay FOX! Two down.... (and imo...the tougher, and more meaningful contest fell in the Republican column.
Posted by: DngrMse at November 03, 2009 10:24 PM (wynRm) 384
Congrats all.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 10:31 PM (Gm9rd) 385
I was just talking to my little sister who lives in South Jersey. She said she won't start rejoicing until Corzine concedes. She forsees him resorting to chicanery and skullduggery. He won't go quietly in the night. He will drag this on forever.
Posted by: Ballots stuck on shoes, Ballots inside cars, ballots that were stuck to the bottom of the voting mac at November 03, 2009 10:32 PM (qP2BK) 386
Oops! Sock! Oh, and if you thought Al Gore was a prick in 2000, wait til you see Corzine in 2009. It's not going to be pretty.
Posted by: runningrn at November 03, 2009 10:34 PM (qP2BK) 387
From CNN: "Obama is more likely to watch Tuesday night’s Chicago Bulls game than any political coverage, according to Axelrod." I call Chicago Bull Sh*t! Posted by: runningrn at November 03, 2009 10:39 PM (qP2BK) 388
Well at least Obama doesnt even know he got his ass kicked tonight since he wasn't watching.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 03, 2009 10:43 PM (Gm9rd) 389
NEWS ON HOFFMAN, TWEET FROM THE FIELD:
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Bill - there's a new Hoffman thread. Post this over there.
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Corzine concedes.
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