Evan Bayh Adds His Potential Vote to Block Health Care Debate

Bayh said he didn't "think that's even worth starting a discussion on" provisions "that would explode the deficit... or would dramatically increase the premiums that ordinary families are paying."

Hell, which provisions don't explode the deficit, or dramatically increase premiums? Or cut care and increase costs (and eliminate the commercial insurance industry)?

At this point it feels more like "what's the minimum we can inflict for the maximum number of bought Democrat voters?"

Posted by: Dave In Texas at 04:36 PM

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Posted by: TexasJew at October 28, 2009 04:39 PM (VPwsO)

2 Wait, will we get our jobs back?

Posted by: Nebraska at October 28, 2009 04:43 PM (GtYrq)

3 But will it pay for sex addiction rehab? I'm kind of out of a job right now...

Posted by: Steve Phillips at October 28, 2009 04:44 PM (e8YaH)

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Posted by: Dang Straights at October 28, 2009 04:45 PM (Haq+B)

5 I think we'll be facing Evan Bayh in a presidential election one of these days.

Posted by: Y-not at October 28, 2009 04:45 PM (sey23)

OT: "Bigfoot" is right below "Michelle Obama" on Yahoo's most-searched list.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: FUBAR at October 28, 2009 04:48 PM (J5Srq)

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Perhaps.... but IMHO, somebody from the other side of the aisle is going to have to wrest control of their party away from the lunatic fringe first.

Or Soros dies.....

Posted by: fixerupper at October 28, 2009 04:51 PM (J5Hcw)

8 No public option maybe = no denial of coverage and no limits to coverage financed by a VAT, and no further changes.

Posted by: joncelli at October 28, 2009 04:52 PM (RD7QR)

9 This has now been dragged out to November election time, hopefully further cold feet will develop if enough Dems get their walking papers.

Posted by: AE at October 28, 2009 04:55 PM (kSfPT)

10 En Fuego!

Posted by: that guy that shouts en fuego! at October 28, 2009 04:59 PM (PD1tk)

11 This has now been dragged out to November election time, hopefully further cold feet will develop if enough Dems get their walking papers.

It's a trap!

New Jersey had to be saved from the wretched fingers of the moderate GOP.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at October 28, 2009 05:01 PM (GtYrq)

12 Unless there is a special provision for covering Kate Gosselin's poon, this whole thing is going down in flames.

That poon alone will bankrupt our military industrial medical insurance complex.

Posted by: Barney Frank at October 28, 2009 05:02 PM (27iEn)

13 Kate Gosselin's poon? Never heard... wait, tell me more.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson-Charlie Gibson at October 28, 2009 05:06 PM (jRkV/)

Bayh said he didn't "think that's even worth starting a discussion on" provisions "that would explode the deficit... or would dramatically increase the premiums that ordinary families are paying."

Evan Bayh figured this out. And just for the record, Evan Bayh is not the smartest guy in the world.

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 28, 2009 05:07 PM (V9SYy)

Perhaps.... but IMHO, somebody from the other side of the aisle is going to have to wrest control of their party away from the lunatic fringe first.

Here I am. And I am going to New Hampshire, New Jersey, Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, Michigan and then I'm going to Washington D.C. and take back my country...YYYYYYEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH!

Posted by: Howard Dean at October 28, 2009 05:09 PM (V9SYy)

They're not really trying to buy Democrat voters.

They're striving to get everyone depending on government for health care.

Because that's how modern government gets power over people.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at October 28, 2009 05:10 PM (2QFX4)

Kate Gosselin's poon

I would not hit that. Again. Ever. Really.

Posted by: Jon Goesslin at October 28, 2009 05:10 PM (V9SYy)

18 "If we can shitcan Steele and Boehner, and if dipshit McCain "loses" his Life Alert, we'll have a decent chance of reaming the commies' asses next year."

hahahahahahaha

Pray everyone.

Posted by: mare at October 28, 2009 05:12 PM (X1fsj)

19 we HRC supporters were hopeful Bayh would have been her Veep.
he really is a fiscal moderate.

Posted by: ginaswo/MiM at October 28, 2009 05:14 PM (RGU22)

20 Heads up: Beck discussing the velocity of money a very important concept.

Posted by: curious at October 28, 2009 05:15 PM (p302b)

21 Someone needs to append that single one page health care proposal to the end of every HC thread at AoS. If the (R)'s don't learn to push something non-budget-busting they're gonna lose more elections over this issue. Even if the (D)'s can't get it together (are they now almost 0-2?)...

Posted by: I Am Jack's Expletive Free Comment at October 28, 2009 05:17 PM (8XI4A)

22 ACE et al. please put on Beck, I'm thinking he is going off his rocker.....

Posted by: curious at October 28, 2009 05:19 PM (p302b)

23 Evan Bayh is not the smartest guy in the world.

Yeah, which is why he's the perfect candidate for the Left to run. Nice hair, moderate rep, malleable mind.

Posted by: Y-not at October 28, 2009 05:19 PM (sey23)

24 Ok, now Beck is scaring the crap out of me. He is making sense and it is downright frightening.

Posted by: curious at October 28, 2009 05:21 PM (p302b)

We ladies do like a good looking and kind man, and Bayh is all that.. I'd vote for him over BO or Gingrich in a second...

prepare for explosion...

Posted by: ford at October 28, 2009 05:24 PM (Ki7fm)

26 What is truce deal that AP is referring to - between the WH and Fox?

Posted by: IC at October 28, 2009 05:24 PM (jZNCU)

27 "prepare for explosion..."

I hear ya sister!

Posted by: Kate's Poon at October 28, 2009 05:25 PM (27iEn)

28 OT...Beck makes alot of sense, very often. This is the real reason BO wants him off TV, and FOX gone.

Posted by: ford at October 28, 2009 05:25 PM (Ki7fm)

29 Guess I should have bought Glenn's book. I just had a lefty tell me that the healthcare plan is self-sustaining because of the subsidies. It won't cost anyone more money, you see, because of the subsidies. FFS. $4 trazedone is not far behind for me.

Posted by: sybilll at October 28, 2009 05:26 PM (WZfI5)

30 24 Ok, now Beck is scaring the crap out of me. He is making sense and it is downright frightening.

I have to take a break from his shows every once in a while, otherwise I start composing a suicide note in my head.

Posted by: tdpwells at October 28, 2009 05:27 PM (Ei3oZ)

31 That is funny. Cause Beck said Cash for clunkers cost each of us $24,000.00

Posted by: curious at October 28, 2009 05:28 PM (p302b)

Hey, c'mon at least Bayh is able to stand up to the power in his party, and say no to spending...

and he is handsome, and from the middle of the country. If the D's were smart he would be their man in 2012, sort of a cleaning of the palate...and a coming home for the old time D's.

Posted by: ford at October 28, 2009 05:28 PM (Ki7fm)

33 Posted by: tdpwells at October 28, 2009 05:27 PM (Ei3oZ)

I know what you mean. But you can't think that way. T

Posted by: curious at October 28, 2009 05:28 PM (p302b)

34 Obama selling missiles to China?
http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-23917.pdf

"Presidential Determination No. 2009�31 of September 29, 2009 Presidential

Determination On the Delegation of Certifications Under Section 1512 of Public Law 105�261 Memorandum for the Secretary of Commerce

By virtue of the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 301 of Title 3, United States Code, I hereby delegate to you the functions of the President under section 1512 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1999 (NDAA). In the performance of your responsibility under this memorandum, you shall consult, as appropriate, the heads of other executive departments and agencies. You are authorized and directed to publish this determination in the Federal Register.

And what exactly does this Section 1512 authorize?

Sec. 1512. Certification of exports of missile equipment or technology to China.

SEC. 1512.

CERTIFICATION OF EXPORTS OF MISSILE EQUIPMENT OR TECHNOLOGY TO CHINA.

The President shall certify to the Congress at least 15 days in advance of any export to the People�s Republic of China of missile equipment or technology (as defined in section 74 of the Arms Export Control Act (22 U.S.C. 2797c)) that� (1) such export is not detrimental to the United States space launch industry; and (2) the missile equipment or technology, including any indirect technical benefit that could be derived from such export, will not measurably improve the missile or space launch capabilities of the People�s Republic of China.

Cut and pasted from urban survival

Posted by: Sgt Bazz at October 28, 2009 05:29 PM (5ZMY/)

35 Posted by: Sgt Bazz at October 28, 2009 05:29 PM (5ZMY/)

so is this why I saw a little article saying that the chinese military would support our military? Or is Beck's explanation the right one?

Posted by: curious at October 28, 2009 05:30 PM (p302b)

36 Posted by: curious at October 28, 2009 05:28 PM (p302b)

Yeah I know, it was mostly in jest, but...I do take a break sometimes.

26 What is truce deal that AP is referring to - between the WH and Fox?

It's legit. HotAir has it. I wouldn't make much of it, though. They'll still spread their snide remarks, and Fox will continue to shred the left. Good times.

Posted by: tdpwells at October 28, 2009 05:31 PM (Ei3oZ)

37 Hahahah u wing nut clingers are going down the tubes with Glenn Shrek. Have fun getting flushed out of the gene pool when the death panels starts pulling the plug on all the red state grannies. People who think Fox News is anything more then a bible belt circle jerk are fucking delusional.

Posted by: Lefttalicious at October 28, 2009 05:32 PM (q177U)

Heads up... prepare for explosion... downright frightening...YYYYYYEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH!

Kate Gosselin's poon Planet Eater

Posted by: Capt. James T. Kirk at October 28, 2009 05:35 PM (wAQA5)

39 OT but of interest to DiT, if not all morons:

Dick Cheney endorses Kay Bailey Hutchison over Rick Perry in Texas Gubernatorial race.

Discuss.

Posted by: moi's neighbor at October 28, 2009 05:37 PM (Oczq1)

40 Today Beck has on one guy hotter than the next.

Posted by: curious at October 28, 2009 05:37 PM (p302b)

41 Posted by: Lefttalicious at October 28, 2009 05:32 PM (q177U)

We'd be happy to bump your granny to the front of the line, since you're so anxious for it and all.

In fact, it would be an awesome show of faith to their Dear Leader for all the blue staters to offer up their grannies first. Think of the glowing praise you'll get from Lady Pelosi and Lord Reid for reducing the carbon footprint of your family. You might even get an official WH calendar as thanks.

Posted by: tdpwells at October 28, 2009 05:37 PM (Ei3oZ)

We'd be happy to bump your granny to the front of the line, since you're so anxious for it and all.

Hahah, too rich. I hope for god sake there is an opt out so your white bread disnyland towns will spiral into white trash death camps full of inbread klan tards. We can turn them into amusement parks for fully evolved humans.

*child points*

"Oh look mummy, that little chimpler is eating his poo!"

Posted by: Lefttalicious at October 28, 2009 05:41 PM (q177U)

43 Posted by: Lefttalicious at October 28, 2009 05:41 PM (q177U)

You certainly are angry and unhappy. do you want to talk about it?

Posted by: curious at October 28, 2009 05:44 PM (p302b)

>> Dick Cheney endorses Kay Bailey Hutchison over Rick Perry in Texas Gubernatorial race.

Rick's stock value was never terribly high here, and he hasn't done much to improve it.

But still that time he told a reporter "Adios, mofo" was pretty good.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at October 28, 2009 05:44 PM (WvXvd)

45 "inbread

Posted by: Lefttalicious at October 28, 2009 05:41 PM (q177U)"

Dough!

If you're going to make inane comments about others' intelligence, it wouldn't hurt to not be a total idiot yourself.

Guess you figure these "klan tards" will look and act like you, eventually.

Posted by: moi's neighbor at October 28, 2009 05:44 PM (Oczq1)

46 Posted by: Lefttalicious at October 28, 2009 05:41 PM (q177U)

You haven't said whether or not you're going to do your duty to Obama and country by killing your family first. So...?

Posted by: tdpwells at October 28, 2009 05:44 PM (Ei3oZ)

47 and from the middle of the country

The middle of the country is over-rated.

Besides, in his case it's not like he's some man of the people. He's Birch Bayh's son, for Pete's sake.

Posted by: Y-not at October 28, 2009 05:45 PM (sey23)

48 sock puppet begone.

Posted by: notropis at October 28, 2009 05:45 PM (Oczq1)

49 "Rick's stock value was never terribly high here, and he hasn't done much to improve it."

I thought his support of the Tea Party movement and not-so-veiled references to Texas Independence would have improved it some.

Posted by: notropis at October 28, 2009 05:46 PM (Oczq1)

50 oh, come on. That's got to be the worst sockpuppeting I've ever seen.

Whichever one of you morons it is, knock it off. No one is that utterly stupid.

Posted by: moron # 4564362 at October 28, 2009 05:47 PM (p1s9n)

51 I think I need to hit the tip jar for Ace. The troll quality since Dummy's demise is abysmal.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Odd Meteor at October 28, 2009 05:49 PM (erIg9)

52 #51

Does he have to pay for his own trolls? I thought Axelrod or Soros handled that.

(Not that hitting the tip jar is ever a bad idea, of course!)

Posted by: notropis at October 28, 2009 05:52 PM (Oczq1)

53 notropis, I'd pay for the trolls if they at least showed that they possessed an IQ over room temp.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Odd Meteor at October 28, 2009 05:55 PM (erIg9)

54 Unclefacts,

You're right. It's gotten so bad that I've even toyed with the idea of becoming a troll, myself.

Even I could do better.

Posted by: notropis at October 28, 2009 05:58 PM (Oczq1)

55 It's a just a pathetic plea to be put out of their misery.

Posted by: TexasJew at October 28, 2009 06:01 PM (VPwsO)

Posted by: Dave in Texas at October 28, 2009 05:44 PM (WvXvd)

Hutchinson is a scabby RINO pretending to be something else.

She'd be a trojan horse for all sorts of shit. Her second husband is a big tort attorney.

Posted by: TexasJew at October 28, 2009 06:03 PM (VPwsO)

57 OT but what is it about Chuck U Schumer's face that makes me want to suckerpunch him? I can't be the only one.

Posted by: tdpwells at October 28, 2009 06:06 PM (Ei3oZ)

58 Posted by: tdpwells at October 28, 2009 06:06 PM (Ei3oZ)

He had a makeover recently. Notice the even hair color and more so notice the even hair line. He's one of those guys where they are counting his votes for the next election now so they can just come out and say he won. And in the meantime his constituents say "hmm, if everyone I know didn't vote for him, then who is voting for him?"

Posted by: curious at October 28, 2009 06:37 PM (p302b)

59 My lib friend would probably say he is working with Beck too.

Posted by: curious at October 28, 2009 06:38 PM (p302b)

I think Leftalicoius is Jon Gosselin and he just got his HERPES SIMPLEX 3 test results.

Valtrex there's your answer Jon-Licious. Choosing partners unwisely has consequences.

Meanwhile, Kate and I are "Getting it on"..

Posted by: gus at October 28, 2009 06:40 PM (Vqruj)

61 At this point it feels more like "what's the minimum we can inflict for the maximum number of bought Democrat voters?"

Finally, a Laffer curve that Democrats can believe in.

Posted by: benjamin at October 28, 2009 06:40 PM (jjlGZ)

62 "Posted by: curious at October 28, 2009 05:30 PM (p302b)"
What did Glenn Beck say about this. I haven't read about Obama signing missile technology over to the Chinese anywhere yet. But, he did sign something. Hopefully, Beck is covering this too.

Posted by: SGT BAZZ at October 28, 2009 06:52 PM (1cdQF)

63 Beck didn't say anything about it, the AP which you click into from drudge had a little article saying the chinese military is going to support our military.

Posted by: curious at October 28, 2009 06:58 PM (p302b)

Posted by: Lefttalicious at October 28, 2009 05:32 PM (q177U)

I wonder how many liberals don't realize that, more than likely, at least one of their beloved children\parents\family members\close friends are registered republicans...

Not that they'd care if the gubmint left them to die. So long as they got the care they needed... after suffering for 6 month - 2 years for a hip replacement or heart surgery.

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