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After Hemming and Hawing for a Week Pawlenty Finally Endorses Hoffman

Excellent. A likely 2012 candidate who had to stop and see which way the wind is blowing.

Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota is now adding to the momentum becoming the first sitting Republican Governor to endorse Hoffman. This comes on the heels of Sarah Palins endorsement from last week.

What makes this stand out even more than the Palin endorsement is that Pawlenty has not been seen as diverging with the Republican establishment. Hes not seen as the maverick that Palin is.

But Pawlenty has a huge amount of stature inside the Republican establishment, more so than Palin. That he is now willing to come out in favor of Hoffman is going to resonate among the Republican establishment in ways Palins endorsement will not.

How's that for reversal? Indeed, T-Paw almost certainly got the green light to do something so "mavericky" as supporting an actual conservative for a conservative district.

Be sure to click over to RedState for fawning coverage of Pawlenty finally getting around to doing the right thing.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 03:13 PM



Comments

1
Good for T-Paw!

Posted by: Tweet puts on his little tinfoil hat at October 26, 2009 03:15 PM (PaMcq)

2 well now we know who the big dogs are and he's a puppy

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 26, 2009 03:15 PM (gsy0S)

3 A RNC hack tried to focus-group me once.  I ate his liver with some Scozza-fava beans and a nice Chianti.

Posted by: Hannibal Lechter at October 26, 2009 03:15 PM (IoUF1)

4 Tim Pawlenty sucks. Sorry, but he is about as exciting as watching paint dry.

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 26, 2009 03:16 PM (V9SYy)

5

That he is now willing to come out in favor of Hoffman is going to resonate among the Republican establishment in ways Palins endorsement will not.

oh, and i call bullshit one this

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 26, 2009 03:16 PM (gsy0S)

6 on, not one

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 26, 2009 03:17 PM (gsy0S)

7 What up, T-Paw?

Posted by: lorien1973 at October 26, 2009 03:17 PM (IhQuA)

8 I want to be your latex salesman!

Posted by: Tim Pawlenty at October 26, 2009 03:17 PM (j4nwi)

9  
Keep fucking that chicken, Pawlenty.

Posted by: Dang Straights at October 26, 2009 03:19 PM (Haq+B)

10 Is Newt going to attack him now too like he did Sarah and Teh Fred?  Nobody can accuse T-Paw of being some hardcore conservative.

BTW, Teh Fred's wife said the Hoffman campaign would have a big announcement, I wonder if this T-Paw endorsement is it or if Palin is going to NY to campaign for him.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at October 26, 2009 03:19 PM (IoUF1)

11 Who is worse: Pawlenty or Huckabee? I don't care for either and hope something better emerges.

I wonder if RedState loves Pawlenty so much (like NR and Romney) or if they were just glad to be the medium that published the official endorsement?

Posted by: Trish at October 26, 2009 03:20 PM (0U5Kd)

12

Who is the girl on the Bad Idea T-Shirt ad?  Dayum!

Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 26, 2009 03:20 PM (b68Df)

13 Any Minnesotans out there with a bead on this guy? I don't know much about him.

Posted by: joncelli at October 26, 2009 03:20 PM (RD7QR)

14

ot but mrs. teh fred is hawt and brainy

hows about Palin/Mrs Fred 2012

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 26, 2009 03:21 PM (gsy0S)

15
Look, I'll explain why supporting Hoffman is the best choice for us.

1) Whether Hoffman wins or loses, it sends a clear message to The Party Who Never Learns that says: Enough!

2) Scozzofava or Owens, what's the difference? There is none. Indeed, Owens might even be a little more centrist than Scozofava seeing he's in moderately-right district.

3) I know, I know, I know Scozzofava will vote with the Democrats on everything, and she'll probably leave the Republican party and run as a Democrat in 2010.

We gain nothing by supporting Scozzofava. We gain something by supporting Hoffman. It's a win-win whether Hoffman wins or loses.

Posted by: Tweet puts on his little tinfoil hat at October 26, 2009 03:21 PM (PaMcq)

16 Hey, at least Pawlenty can see which way things are going, rather than trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory like most of the moderate excessively-willing to compromise establishment squishes.

Posted by: Tom in Korea at October 26, 2009 03:22 PM (+gX1+)

17 Fuck Tim Pawlenty.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 26, 2009 03:23 PM (sXLx/)

18 Good for Pawlenty.
But the word must officially be out. The NRCC will stick by the local party to preserve face but everyone else is free to do what they want without repercussion.
I really hate the way the national party does this crap. Admit you were wrong and let it go. It's not like anybody is in love with this face you are working so hard to save anyway.

Posted by: Rocks at October 26, 2009 03:23 PM (Q1lie)

19 Screw Pawlenty.  At least until he publicly confesses global warming as a hoax.  And does anyone think he would have taken this position if Palin wasn't already on board?  I mean, Fred deserves more credit for getting there first, but I don't see Pawlenty worrying about running against him in three years.

Posted by: Methos at October 26, 2009 03:24 PM (IoxPW)

20
This is just like those GOP pr1cks who were trying to jump on-stage at the Tea Party protests and try to take credit.  Nothing more.

Posted by: Dang Straights at October 26, 2009 03:24 PM (Haq+B)

21 Just a question since I don't know much about Pawlenty - is he boring in the same way some folks say Jindal is boring? I mean, Jindal may not be the most exciting messenger but he is incredibly intelligent and has great conservative ideas.

Posted by: IC at October 26, 2009 03:24 PM (jZNCU)

22 Palin/Mrs Fred 2012

Bunk!

Posted by: MRI at October 26, 2009 03:24 PM (aVQo/)

23 Ace should do a post about this.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 26, 2009 03:25 PM (2qU2d)

24

Well, the Powerline guys love T-Paw, so that means...?

Posted by: eddiebear at October 26, 2009 03:25 PM (wnU1W)

25 Palin/Mrs Fred Friday night, with tequila

Posted by: Rocks at October 26, 2009 03:26 PM (Q1lie)

26 Status of Spear of Conservatism

Tip: Talk-radio, bloggers, D. Armey & assorted politicos/commentators, Palin
Head of spear: Pawlenty
Shaft of spear: Huckabee, Romney, fence-sitting mutes
Vortex trailing spear: RNC, L. Graham, Gingrich et al.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 26, 2009 03:26 PM (C3uAX)

27 So, am I to understand that Hoffman is Pawlenty's Afghanistan?

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at October 26, 2009 03:26 PM (RkRxq)

28

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 26, 2009 03:16 PM (V9SYy)

T-Paw also drinks global warming kool-aid by the gallon, he endorsed McCain early on in the last primary (he led McCain's MN operation), and he rammed the light rail boondoggle, a statewide smoking ban, and a taxpayer-funded stadium for corrupt billionaire Carl Pohlad down our throats here in MN.  Spending went through the roof every year until he decided to run for POTUS and took a stand to ingratiate himself with conservatives (the state was pretty much broke at that point).  I'd still take him over Huckabee, but I doubt he'd even win MN in a primary race against Palin.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at October 26, 2009 03:26 PM (IoUF1)

29 lets be serious, scuzzy is an idiot who in their right mind would do a presser in front of an adversary's headquarters where there are a shitload of his signs that's what the rnc wants to represent them? pathetic

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 26, 2009 03:27 PM (gsy0S)

30
What up, my peeps!

Okay, here's the dealio. It's pretty obvious we need to biggen our tent, right? Right.

So what we're gonna do is this: Recruit Democrats, re-brand them as Republicans, and run them in moderate districts.

If we've learned anything in the last couple of election cycles it's that the Democrats are doing something right. So it's only logical, in order to win, to become more like Democrats.

I hope this isn't too difficult for you unenlightened greedy racist bigot homophobes to understand. Don't forget to donate to the RNC! Peace.

Working hard for you always,
Michael Steele

Posted by: Michael Steele at October 26, 2009 03:27 PM (PaMcq)

31 Bravo for Gov. Tim Pawlenty.

Posted by: USCitizen at October 26, 2009 03:27 PM (x0kcN)

32 And who exactly would have given T-Paw the green light to endorse Hoffman? Seems to me it wasn't the local GOP, wouldn't they have already endorsed him?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 26, 2009 03:28 PM (ZGhSv)

33 There is a light folks we are chipping away at the communists and they are very worried, odumbass is an ass clown and will be jailed along with his cohorts for the RICO act, impeachement is not a dream!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 26, 2009 03:28 PM (gS9C7)

34 12
Who is the girl on the Bad Idea T-Shirt ad? Dayum!


Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 26, 2009 03:20 PM

Heh, I noticed that earlier too. Hawt dayum is right!

As far as Pawlenty... anyone who falls for the anthropogenic global warming scam will never get my respect, my trust nor my vote.

Posted by: Michael in MI at October 26, 2009 03:28 PM (ObTcs)

35 32,

Pretty sure it was Sarah, but that's just me.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 26, 2009 03:29 PM (gS9C7)

36 Profiles in media spin:

1)  Pawlenty takes a week to endorse Hoffman = indecisive, weak, unfocused.....

2) Obama takes a two months and counting to act in Afghanistan =  thorough, thoughtful, weighing all the options, only wants to make the best decision.......

Posted by: FreakyBoy at October 26, 2009 03:31 PM (4s1it)

37

Just to post... I just donated $200 to Doug Hoffman, I do not agree with this man on social issues, I am a pro-choice independent... however... I aboslutely agree with Doug Hoffman when it comes to issues like NO to this nationalized death-care, NO to more stimulus, YES to strong national defense, YES to indiv. rights.. NO to bigger govt!!!! 

A recovering democrat like me is donating to Hoffman,  PLEASE donate what you can to Doug Hoffman. 

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at October 26, 2009 03:31 PM (ACkhT)

38

35

Well, allllllrighty then! I admit I haven't followed this very closely, but watching Republicans actually endorse a conservative instead of the GOP candidate is popcorn worthy. And hopefully the wave of the future.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 26, 2009 03:32 PM (ZGhSv)

39

oh oh, moonbattery has this story up about scuzzy, not good at all

Dedes brother is Thomas W. Scozzafava and he is married to Pearl Han Ashcraft.Dede Scozzafavas campaign has paid $3750.00 in disclosed expenses to Pearl Han Productions, LLC for Strategic Consulting, the most bland of descriptions.

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 26, 2009 03:33 PM (gsy0S)

40

Who is the girl on the Bad Idea T-Shirt ad? Dayum!

Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 26, 2009 03:20 PM

What's the matter? You don't recognize me? You don't know who the FUCK I AM?!

Posted by: MegMac at October 26, 2009 03:33 PM (m/nAl)

41
Pawlenty drinks the global warming/cooling/whatever koolaid.  How do you think he'll swing on cap 'n tax?

Posted by: Dang Straights at October 26, 2009 03:33 PM (Haq+B)

42 I'm visualizing Saturday Night Live's version of Jeopardy, with Newt as Alex Trebeck and Pawlenty as Sean Connery, saying "My final jeopardy answer is - SUCK ON IT NEWT!!!  AW HAW HAW HAW HAW!!!"

Posted by: wws at October 26, 2009 03:33 PM (T1boi)

43 TRAITOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 26, 2009 03:34 PM (gsy0S)

44 43,

Just cause you live in Hawaai you don't have to yell Brother.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 26, 2009 03:35 PM (gS9C7)

45 Sorry guys.  It's a man baby.......

Posted by: Austin Powers at October 26, 2009 03:35 PM (4s1it)

46

oops, 43 was for 39

i was goofing on him

guess i'm the goof

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 26, 2009 03:35 PM (gsy0S)

47 oops Hawaii.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 26, 2009 03:36 PM (gS9C7)

48 Ditto on the Bravo for T-Paw, shouldn't abuse him for coming to the right conclusion even if a little "me-too"ish.

However, no global warming hoax believer will get a primary vote from me.  He should stick with Minn. and forget 2012.

Posted by: one more def at October 26, 2009 03:36 PM (DIYmd)

49 Rocks: "I really hate the way the national party does this crap. Admit you were wrong and let it go. It's not like anybody is in love with this face you are working so hard to save anyway."

Exactly.

In the World According to Gingrich, however, no one of the Right (outside of NY-23) should intervene in local politics and voice dissent against the local machine. Isn't that what Gingrich, outside, national intervener, said? You see, his backing the deplorable choice from afar is more rational and ethical and adheres to the Founders' principles. Somehow.

Keep porkin' that chicken, Newt.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 26, 2009 03:36 PM (C3uAX)

50

@ 41

If Pawlenty drinks that shit, he'll be on the outside looking in very shortly. I don't drink it, and I certainly won't even begin to support any pol who does.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 26, 2009 03:37 PM (ZGhSv)

51

ot, but for the ont's out there since i'll be at hooters tonight for my bday

the girl got the damn guitar

internal family war has started

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 26, 2009 03:37 PM (gsy0S)

52 So, Pawlenty waits until some favorable poll came out before making his move. A real profile in courage, he is. Tell me again why powerlineblog gushes all over him so much?

Posted by: OregonMuse at October 26, 2009 03:38 PM (eR37w)

53 I think this is actually MUCH bigger news than the Palin endorsement for this reason:  Why would the GOP let Pawlenty off his leash to do this?  Are the polls looking that good for Hoffman?  Is he going to squeak out a win?  Or is the GOP throwing Pawlenty out there as a sop to conservatives, so that even if Hoffman loses, they will remember T-Paw kindly in 2012?

Posted by: Marybeth at October 26, 2009 03:38 PM (zQoWP)

54 I'm telling you folks Sarah is going to be the bee's knees come election time, she's on a mission.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 26, 2009 03:39 PM (gS9C7)

55 Posted by: Dang Straights at October 26, 2009 03:33 PM (Haq+B)

He tried to set up a mini-version of crap-n-tax for MN.  Don't buy what he's selling.  Like I said, I'd take him over The Dope From Hope, but Palin and others are head and shoulders above him.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at October 26, 2009 03:39 PM (IoUF1)

56

54  it seems like she is a big cat stalking her prey

she is building her movement slowly but surely

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 26, 2009 03:40 PM (gsy0S)

57

Someday, we will have another politician who will make decisions without the benefit of polls or the insights of paid consultants.

My bet is on David Petraeus.  So is my hope at this point, because this focus-group BS is going to kill us again in 2012.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 26, 2009 03:40 PM (B+qrE)

58 navycopjoe,

I turned 62 oct. 22 no big deal but I do seem to shoot better, oh well.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 26, 2009 03:41 PM (gS9C7)

59

Oh, and screw Newt too. Sorry, but Newt is about 15 years past his 15 minutes.

(Wow, I am in a really bad mood this afternoon)

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 26, 2009 03:41 PM (V9SYy)

60

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 26, 2009 03:40 PM (B+qrE)

What the fuck is all this shit about Petraeus?  We don't know his politics.  For all we know, he believes the same shit as Gen. Weasley Clarke or is a RINO like Gen. Powell.  The fact that he's a military leader doesn't automatically make him a conservative.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at October 26, 2009 03:43 PM (IoUF1)

61

the girl got the damn guitar  All purchases now save the 25% VAT. so there's that.

internal family war has started.  Just don't use too much CO2 because ya know global warming and all.

Posted by: adams family counselor at October 26, 2009 03:43 PM (DIYmd)

62 Pawlenty is a non-starter as far as '12 goes.  Mallamutt had it right up above, he's about as exciting as watching paint dry.  And this just shows what a namby-pamby little d-bag he can be.

Posted by: Peaches at October 26, 2009 03:44 PM (9Wv2j)

63 all we need now is John McCain to endorse Hoffman and we are guaranteed a loss

Posted by: Ben at October 26, 2009 03:44 PM (wuv1c)

64

The fact that he's a military leader doesn't automatically make him a conservative.

I know him.  He isn't Powell.


 

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 26, 2009 03:44 PM (B+qrE)

65

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 26, 2009 03:44 PM (B+qrE)

Ah, thanks.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at October 26, 2009 03:45 PM (IoUF1)

66 I turned 62 oct. 22

Hey, happy belated birthday, big guy!!

Posted by: Peaches at October 26, 2009 03:45 PM (9Wv2j)

67

Sorry, but Newt is about 15 years past his 15 minutes.

Newt went around the bend on global warming.  I will never forgive him for that.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 26, 2009 03:45 PM (B+qrE)

68

What the fuck is all this shit about Petraeus?  We don't know his politics.  For all we know, he believes the same shit as Gen. Weasley Clarke or is a RINO like Gen. Powell.  The fact that he's a military leader doesn't automatically make him a conservative.

 

In all honesty I would actually be much much much happier with a Wesley Clark over obama. Honestly clark is like a left leaning republican.

Posted by: Ben at October 26, 2009 03:45 PM (wuv1c)

69 We need folks up there that will go before the house and senate and the 1st words out of their mouth should be BULLSHIT!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 26, 2009 03:46 PM (gS9C7)

70 Then we will be one!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 26, 2009 03:46 PM (gS9C7)

71

Sorry, but Newt is about 15 years past his 15 minutes.

Newt went around the bend on global warming.  I will never forgive him for that

yeah after i saw him getting to second base with Nancy Pelosi on that global warming couch, I will never vote for him... or get an erection for the rest of my life.

Posted by: Ben at October 26, 2009 03:46 PM (wuv1c)

72 I would love Petraeus to run but it might have to be at gunpoint.

Posted by: MRI at October 26, 2009 03:47 PM (aVQo/)

73

This should make Newt's ginormous head explode after his rant on the Fox sunday morning show about Palin's endorsement of Hoffman and how Dede "sasquatch" Scuzzlebutt was really a super conservative with many fine qualities and it was terrible that people were rejecting her and outsiders were interfering in a local election.

"Damn you people, go back to your shanties."

 

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at October 26, 2009 03:47 PM (6BgmB)

74

i think general petraeus would never run for a political office

he's seen how nasty it is

i think he does what he does for the troops and his love of country

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 26, 2009 03:47 PM (gsy0S)

75 or get an erection for the rest of my life.

At least until we get sexbots.

Posted by: MRI at October 26, 2009 03:47 PM (aVQo/)

76 Happy Belated Birthday Nam Grunt.

Posted by: Ben at October 26, 2009 03:48 PM (wuv1c)

77

Well, I actually happen to like Pawlenty.  No, he's not the most exciting guy, but as an actual fiscal conservative who has been elected and re-elected in a state that typically likes to vote "Stupid" (see: Ventura, Jesse; Franken, Al), I think he's a good guy.

Frankly, this business of who endorsed who first is meaningless.  Pawlenty, unlike Palin, is still the governor of a state and has official business (as well as PAC meets, no doubt) to tend to.  Just the fact that he made the endorsement at all is a good sign.

If we're going to go down the road of, "But Politician X endorsed Candidate Y first!" then we would also have to fault Sarah for not yet endorsing Marco Rubio in the Florida Senate race.  I mean, that guy is an actual conservative, has rising star written all over him, and is running against Good Time Charlie Crist - you know, that Republican who loves the stimulus money and spends his free time humping Obama's leg.  I would love to see both Sarah and Pawlenty give Rubio their endorsements.  And when/if they do, I'm not going to really care WHEN they do so, just as long as they help him out in the race.

Posted by: Langdon_Alger at October 26, 2009 03:48 PM (En7m1)

78

In all honesty I would actually be much much much happier with a Wesley Clark over obama. Honestly clark is like a left leaning republican.

Posted by: Ben at October 26, 2009 03:45 PM (wuv1c)

----------------------------------------

He's a nutcase who almost got us into a shootout with the Russians in Kosovo just because they made him look foolish. I'll pass.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 26, 2009 03:48 PM (sXLx/)

79

i think general petraeus would never run for a political office

he's seen how nasty it is

i think he does what he does for the troops and his love of country

would he settle for Iron Fisted Overlord instead?

Posted by: Ben at October 26, 2009 03:48 PM (wuv1c)

80 66,

Thanks hon', no big deal tho' although I was treated to a great meal from my Boys.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 26, 2009 03:48 PM (gS9C7)

81 Newt is still trying to split atoms with his mind.

Posted by: taylork at October 26, 2009 03:49 PM (4jZ56)

82 Yup, last time I checked he, is still sucking..

Posted by: Todd (the guy who says Obama sucks cock) at October 26, 2009 03:49 PM (LLOGQ)

83 Timmy has no shot in 2012.He makes Barney Fife look like John Wayne in appearance and manner.
Superficial- yes, but we are going to need someone of stronger stuff to take on O.
Plus Global Warming? Pfft.

Posted by: jjshaka at October 26, 2009 03:49 PM (h6nkA)

84

78

not even over obama?

 

also russia wasn't going to go to war with the west over a stupid airport. Don't get me wrong, but I would have prefered just about anyone in the Dem field over Obama, actually I would have voted for Evan Bayh over John McCain in the general election

Posted by: Ben at October 26, 2009 03:50 PM (wuv1c)

85

61  whats sad is she (my sister, the one who bought it) pulled rank already

"so joe, when did you get a star above your anchor" 

cold shit but she my sis and i love her (too bad she could kick my ass easily)

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 26, 2009 03:50 PM (gsy0S)

86 Thanks Ben.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 26, 2009 03:50 PM (gS9C7)

87

You mean I just suck when I could have suck sucked.  You guys are a tough crowd.

Posted by: Pawlenty at October 26, 2009 03:50 PM (m2CN7)

88 Langdon_Alger: "I would love to see both Sarah and Pawlenty give Rubio their endorsements.  And when/if they do, I'm not going to really care WHEN they do so, just as long as they help him out in the race."

I find your ideas intriguing and would to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 26, 2009 03:51 PM (C3uAX)

89 So, Pawlenty is a global warmer? Newt can save him a place in the line to kiss my ass.

Posted by: maddogg at October 26, 2009 03:52 PM (OlN4e)

90 I wonder what Big Dick thinks about Hoffman.  If I were to indulge in a great fantasy, it would be President Cheney.  Yeah, I know . . .

Posted by: Peaches at October 26, 2009 03:52 PM (9Wv2j)

91 No break for Pawlenty since he is an active office holder that is also a Republican?

I actually think it's a big risk to endorse a third party candidate in Hoffman as a sitting Republican Governor.

Posted by: WTFCI at October 26, 2009 03:52 PM (GtYrq)

92

For the record, I do like Pawlenty, however in 2012 we will need an orator to match Obama.

While it pains me to say it and i wouldn't vote for him in the primaries, Huckabee is the best speaker the republicans have right now. I don't like his views or policies, but i can't  hate the guy, he is likeable as a person, which while superficial, does count for something in elections.

 

I really like Paul Ryan, he knows economics and economic policy better than most in D.C. and that is what we need right now. He is a good speaker, but i haven't seen him make a major speech.

Posted by: Ben at October 26, 2009 03:52 PM (wuv1c)

93 @ 77 we would also have to fault Sarah for not yet endorsing Marco Rubio in the Florida Senate race.  I mean, that guy is an actual conservative, has rising star written all over him...

I agree. Rubio deserves more support from the "big guys." He's the real deal, and has a great political future if he's given the opportunity to advance. Lots to like about him.

Posted by: Curly Mustard at October 26, 2009 03:52 PM (sOpAl)

94 I turned 62 oct. 22 no big deal but I do seem to shoot better, oh well.

Happy Belated  Birthday .......  To the man that makes me hungry ! I hope it was a very good day for you.

Posted by: paranoid polly at October 26, 2009 03:52 PM (r7Vc3)

95 I don't vote for Republicans who take days and days to decide to back Conservatives. Period.

Posted by: Iron Maiden at October 26, 2009 03:53 PM (hIOnV)

96 Pawlenty/Gore 2012!

Posted by: John McCain at October 26, 2009 03:53 PM (j4nwi)

97 Huckabee? ugh.

Posted by: taylork at October 26, 2009 03:53 PM (4jZ56)

98

wonder what Big Dick thinks about Hoffman.  If I were to indulge in a great fantasy, it would be President Cheney.  Yeah, I know . . .

who will Cheney's Warcock bless in the 2011 primaries? It tends to lean to the right...

Posted by: Ben at October 26, 2009 03:53 PM (wuv1c)

99

Well good for you, Tim "Me too" Pawlenty.

 

zzzzz

 

 

When's Palin going to NY?

Posted by: TexMex at October 26, 2009 03:54 PM (rWkts)

100

Honestly clark is like a left leaning republican.

Bull.

Clark is an apple polishing fraud with all the judgement of a pile of hot asphalt.  Ghost of Lee Atwater hit the nail on the head about the Pristina airport--what an idiot.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 26, 2009 03:54 PM (B+qrE)

101 Langdon_Alger: "I would love to see both Sarah and Pawlenty give Rubio their endorsements.  And when/if they do, I'm not going to really care WHEN they do so, just as long as they help him out in the race."

I find your ideas intriguing and might want to subscribe to your newsletter. Let me see which way the wind blows for a bit more. I'll get back to you in December.

Posted by: Guv Huckabee et al. at October 26, 2009 03:54 PM (C3uAX)

102

Pawlenty is not anyone I would vote for....I agree on the Newt issue.  Newt is over, has some luggage that I would not want to unpack for him. 

We need a person who has no noticable angry wives, or children around.  We need women to like this person.  Bush 1 and 2 were good with the ladies.  Reagan , yep, the ladies voted for him too.

Obama got the women this time around...Mitt?...Hutchinson?....

not Newt or Timmy.

Posted by: ford at October 26, 2009 03:55 PM (Ki7fm)

103 Cheney and Palin are the only two conservatives worth a damn right now. Romenycare has ruined Mitts chances, and Guilliani disappeared off the face of the earth.

Posted by: taylork at October 26, 2009 03:55 PM (4jZ56)

104 That he is now willing to come out in favor of Hoffman is going to resonate among the Republican establishment elite in ways Palins endorsement will not.

FTF them.

Posted by: Mr. Fix it at October 26, 2009 03:55 PM (DIYmd)

105 Keep an eye out for that little scrapper in La. Bobby, he's smarter than the average bear and seems to have a little connection with Sarah.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 26, 2009 03:56 PM (gS9C7)

106

59, I'm thinking of sending Newt my copy of "To Renew America" with a nastygram.

But not sure it's worth the postage since he is obviously too thick to get the message.

Posted by: Scott J. at October 26, 2009 03:56 PM (/bVuS)

107

97

i know i know, but who in the party is a better speaker, debater, conversationalist and speech giver?

I am not talking about substance here.

Obama is a good speech giver and decent debater. We need someone who can match that. I would prefer to vote on substance, but i am in the vast minority of american voters.

Remember how many people claimed to vote for Bush over Kerry because they would rather have a beer with Bush.

Posted by: Ben at October 26, 2009 03:56 PM (wuv1c)

108 Who is Paul Ryan?

Posted by: ford at October 26, 2009 03:56 PM (Ki7fm)

109

not even over obama?

also russia wasn't going to go to war with the west over a stupid airport. Don't get me wrong, but I would have prefered just about anyone in the Dem field over Obama, actually I would have voted for Evan Bayh over John McCain in the general election

Posted by: Ben at October 26, 2009 03:50 PM (wuv1c)

--------------------------------

No, not even over Obama. Clark is just as left as Obama with the added bonus of having a few screws loose. I doubt the Russians would have gone to war either, but shots would have been fired, people would have died, it would have made relations a whole lot worse, and all because Clark was made to look like a jackass. If he can't be trusted in that situation there's no way I'd trust him with any higher authority.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 26, 2009 03:56 PM (sXLx/)

110 While many here revile Huckabee, and I don't support him politically, I know the man personally. He is a good man.

Posted by: maddogg at October 26, 2009 03:56 PM (OlN4e)

111 Cheney and Palin are the only two conservatives worth a damn right now.

I would respectfully add:  DeMint, Coburn, Inhofe, Issa, Rubio


Posted by: Peaches at October 26, 2009 03:56 PM (9Wv2j)

112 Keep an eye out for that little scrapper in La. Bobby, he's smarter than the average bear and seems to have a little connection with Sarah.

but but but, he's a creationist.

Posted by: taylork at October 26, 2009 03:57 PM (4jZ56)

113

Huckabee/Billy Carter 2012!

 

Posted by: TexasJew at October 26, 2009 03:57 PM (j4nwi)

114
I would respectfully add:  DeMint, Coburn, Inhofe, Issa, Rubio

I stand corrected. Especially Inhofe, whose doing great work against this global warming crap.

Posted by: taylork at October 26, 2009 03:57 PM (4jZ56)

115 Focus groups say Newt's forehead is too big.

Posted by: MRI at October 26, 2009 03:58 PM (aVQo/)

116 So did Newt's American Solutions actually do anything?

Posted by: taylork at October 26, 2009 03:58 PM (4jZ56)

117 I'd go with the Liz Cheney/Sara Palin ticket.

Posted by: Mr. Fix it at October 26, 2009 03:59 PM (DIYmd)

118

113

Ha! That burned my eyes just reading that! Hmmm How 'bout Huckabee/Jimmah Carter's finger nail clipping 2012?

Posted by: TexMex at October 26, 2009 03:59 PM (rWkts)

119 Huckabee is the best speaker the republicans have right now.

Meh.  As long as his challenger is a nobody with poor oratory skills Huckabee looks good.

Paul Ryan is an absolute talent.  I want to see Paul Ryan as Governor of Wisconsin.  Get that and he's great horse in a race for President.

Pawlenty is the kind of candidate we need as President right now.  He's good using the executive office to beat back the fugly legislative policies that creep out of a dominate left of center legislature in St.Paul.  It is a lot like what is creeping out of Capitol Hill right now.

Posted by: WTFCI at October 26, 2009 03:59 PM (GtYrq)

120 I googled Ryan...good choice!  He looks to have experience, could he be developed for 2012?

Posted by: ford at October 26, 2009 03:59 PM (Ki7fm)

121

Guilliani disappeared off the face of the earth.

Ditto on Rudy's judgement skills, too.  That "wait until Florida" gambit was idiocy straight from the cow.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 26, 2009 03:59 PM (B+qrE)

122

Guilliani disappeared off the face of the earth.

 

no he is going to either run for Governor or for Gilliabrands Senate seat. I like Rudy insomuch that he would make a good governor or senator.

Posted by: Ben at October 26, 2009 03:59 PM (wuv1c)

123 So did Newt's American Solutions actually do anything?

Study stuff is something.

Posted by: WTFCI at October 26, 2009 03:59 PM (GtYrq)

124 Huck makes me squeamish in a bad way.

Posted by: ford at October 26, 2009 03:59 PM (Ki7fm)

125

WTFCI - I think the crap is because he waited so long and saw how the wind was blowing. I guess we should give him some credit for atleast not pulling a Newt and just rubberstamping the Republican.

And in fairness, Pawlenty is never going to be as exciting as a candidate as Palin. Following Palin is a tough act. She brings attention to whatever she touches, rightly or wrongly.

So yea, I will temporarily mellow my foul mood and give Pawlenty some credit for coming out. And, in reflection, it may help with some right of center moderate conservatives in the district who may have worried Hoffman was too conservative for their tast.

That said, Pawlenty is probably my 3rd or 4th choice for President in 2012. But, I guess we should give credit where credit is due.

Now, I am returning to my previously stated bad mood.

F!!K Newt Gingrich.

 

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 26, 2009 04:00 PM (V9SYy)

126 oh, and I forgot about Bolton. you can't go wrong with the 'stache.

Posted by: taylork at October 26, 2009 04:00 PM (4jZ56)

127

googled Ryan...good choice!  He looks to have experience, could he be developed for 2012?

 

no he'll be down the road. He appears on CNBC and really knows what he is talking about. He's substance and is good looking which  plays a role in politics.

Posted by: Ben at October 26, 2009 04:00 PM (wuv1c)

128 Clark should be put in jail for treason for the way he spoke about our Troops, end of story there he's a poseur and loser in fact he and hanoi john the traitor prolly 69'ed each other. feh!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 26, 2009 04:01 PM (gS9C7)

129 no he is going to either run for Governor or for Gilliabrands Senate seat. I like Rudy insomuch that he would make a good governor or senator.

There is a New York Magazine piece out saying Rudy's interest in the NY Governor's race depends on Cuomo's interest.  If Cuomo's in on the Dem side Guiliani is out.  If Cuomo passes then Guiliani is in.

Posted by: WTFCI at October 26, 2009 04:01 PM (GtYrq)

130

oh, and I forgot about Bolton. you can't go wrong with the 'stache.

His Moustache will serve as Secretary of State

Posted by: Ben at October 26, 2009 04:01 PM (wuv1c)

131

Liz Cheney ...best yet.  I would work for Liz Cheney.  She has grace under fire, and is alittle off the beaten path for the Pubs..

great choice.

Posted by: ford at October 26, 2009 04:02 PM (Ki7fm)

132

Rudy G is down here in Fort Worth along with GWB and Colin Powell. They're giving a bunch of speeches for an organization called Get Motivated. All I know is traffic was a major clustarfark for 2 hrs this morning. I would've run over people but I didn't want to get people bits all over my rockin' '99 Saturn...

Posted by: TexMex at October 26, 2009 04:02 PM (rWkts)

133

no he is going to either run for Governor or for Gilliabrands Senate seat. I like Rudy insomuch that he would make a good governor or senator.

There is a New York Magazine piece out saying Rudy's interest in the NY Governor's race depends on Cuomo's interest.  If Cuomo's in on the Dem side Guiliani is out.  If Cuomo passes then Guiliani is in.

yeah. i think rudy will run for whatever cuomo does not run for. so if cuomo goes for the gov, rudy will go for the senate. polls on real clear politics has him beating Gillibran by like 15

Posted by: Ben at October 26, 2009 04:02 PM (wuv1c)

134 Inhofe? Now there's a guy from the cesspool Congress I could endorse for the presidency. Top-notch. And not the best of a bad lot but a really good, rational choice.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 26, 2009 04:02 PM (C3uAX)

135 That Skeezaflavvin chick has some great pleats in her skirt. I'd vote for her.

Posted by: David Brooks at October 26, 2009 04:02 PM (SqAkN)

136 I wouldn't vote against a Sarah/Bolton ticket at all best of both worlds.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 26, 2009 04:03 PM (gS9C7)

137

Liz Cheney ...best yet.  I would work for Liz Cheney.  She has grace under fire, and is alittle off the beaten path for the Pubs..

great choice.

I could see myself in a position serving under her as well.

Posted by: Ben at October 26, 2009 04:03 PM (wuv1c)

138 The only thing the Huckster has going for him is he's a Fair Tax supporter.

Posted by: Scott J. at October 26, 2009 04:03 PM (/bVuS)

139 110 While many here revile Huckabee, and I don't support him politically, I know the man personally. He is a good man.

Posted by: maddogg at October 26, 2009 03:56 PM (OlN4e)

Well, tell him to cut that compassionate conservative crap. Let him spend his own money. One Republican big government-loving dunce in the White House was quite enough.

And that Anti-Mormon shit last year was disgusting. He should read the history of the Mormon people in this country before he opens his ignorant piehole. Some "good man".

Unfit to lead. Period.

Posted by: TexasJew at October 26, 2009 04:03 PM (j4nwi)

140

While many here revile Huckabee, and I don't support him politically, I know the man personally. He is a good man.

I don't think anyone has anything personally against Huckabee. In fact, I think the fact that he was able to lose all the weight showed he is someone with alot of inner strength and willpower - which is 2 admirable traits.

I think some of his policy positions, are, however, questionable. The term "Fair Tax" is nothing more than "Sales Tax". And his claim that the adoption of the Fair Tax will eliminate the IRS is laughable - is he just going to trust everyone to properly file their sales tax returns? That type of pitch makes me question the seriousness of his campaign.

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 26, 2009 04:04 PM (V9SYy)

141 If you can find the video, watch Huckabee's show this past weekend.  Watch Lanny Davis disassemble Huckabee's own talking points without Huck able to defend them.

Huckabee is a candidate that benefits from all the other candidates being so weak.  He's the John Edwards of the GOP without the incessant infidelity.

Posted by: WTFCI at October 26, 2009 04:04 PM (GtYrq)

142

I agree with WTFCI.  Pawlenty deserves a break in this one.  I mean, he's a sitting Republican governor - he's kind of expected to go along with whoever gets the Republican nomination.  The fact that he broke ranks means something.

Maybe the cynics in here are right.  Maybe it is just a ruse on his part to try to gather some grassroots support.  Maybe the party sees Scozzafava as a sure loser in the election, so they let Pawlenty off the leash to try to bring more actual conservatives into the Republican fold.  I'm still a bit naive, so I tend to give the benefit of the doubt.

I've also heard Pawlenty spout the global warming line, which disappoints me.  However, he is adamantly opposed to Cap & Tax on a national level and has stated that he doesn't want to do anything at all on a national level unless/until every other country signs on, and we all know that will never happen.

As for Rubio, he's garnered some good endorsements, and has closed a 35 point gap in the polls to just 15 points over the last two months alone, with something like 40% of primary voters still never having heard of him.  With the election still 10 months away, he has a chance to pull out the upset and send Crist to retirement on the beach.  I think Huckabee is the only "big name" that has endorsed him (even though I don't care for Huck at all).  Some more big namers could really get him the momentum he needs.

Posted by: Langdon_Alger at October 26, 2009 04:04 PM (En7m1)

143

Pawlenty sucks. Period. What a boring piece of shit. I wouldn't vote for him if someone held a gun to my head.

And what's up with Chuckles Christ? The guy looks like a golem made out of beef jerky.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 26, 2009 04:05 PM (P33XN)

144 They're giving a bunch of speeches for an organization called Get Motivated.

They must need the money as that thing seems like only one step above a Tony Robbins self help program.

Posted by: taylork at October 26, 2009 04:05 PM (4jZ56)

145 I'm really, really decisive.  Maybe.  Some of the time.  Uh, can I reconsider?  I can't make up my mind!!!

Posted by: Tim Pawlenty (RINO-South Canada) at October 26, 2009 04:05 PM (q1zgR)

146

T-Paw's finger in wind test before endorsing Hoffman?  Is he governing MN by polling?  Does anyone know?

Posted by: Robert Hinson, President of Nambla, Official Obama Child Rearing Czar at October 26, 2009 04:06 PM (qP2BK)

147

Posted by: TexMex at October 26, 2009 04:02 PM (rWkts)

With those three, that "Get Motivated" rally sounds like a RINO clusterfuck in Cowtown.

Posted by: TexasJew at October 26, 2009 04:06 PM (j4nwi)

148

Mallamutt, you need to read the Fair Tax book if you haven't. The bill as written by Linder is about the best idea I've ever seen for funding government while devolving power from D.C.

There's a massive amount of disinformation about it out there.

Posted by: Scott J. at October 26, 2009 04:07 PM (/bVuS)

149

And what's up with Chuckles Christ? The guy looks like a golem made out of beef jerky.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 26, 2009 04:05 PM (P33XN)

ROFLMAO, I damn near pissed myself over that one.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at October 26, 2009 04:07 PM (IoUF1)

150 If the NRCC is really planning on running a quarter-million in ads in NY-23...well, it's fine if they do some Owens-bashing but they better be putting the Scozzafava name in print about this big or I'd bet on seeing an 'alternative NRCC ' set up in the near future that doesn't support DRANOs. 

Posted by: mrkwong at October 26, 2009 04:08 PM (G8Eo0)

151 Just checked out Paul Ryan.  Holy crap, he looks like a Kennedy!  Good talker, too.  Never paid him any attention before, but he's definitely worth watching.

Posted by: Peaches at October 26, 2009 04:08 PM (9Wv2j)

152 Speaking of organizations, anyone know when Sarah's group is getting started? I've already got my suit of armor and democrap killing sword; I just need to know what my battle flag should look like.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 26, 2009 04:09 PM (P33XN)

153 Also, about Huckabee, my understanding is his HuckPAC is largely falling apart.  It's become an employment base for his family.

Just an FYI, but here's how much Obama raised after he was elected to the US Senate for his Hope Fund: $4,430,245 for the election cycle of 2005-2006.

The GOP isn't starstruck like Democrats, but this is a ton of money for a one person PAC to raise in an off year election cycle.

Posted by: WTFCI at October 26, 2009 04:09 PM (GtYrq)

154 Ryan of Wisconsin is a real comer. Couple of other guys to look at - Jeff Flake, Arizona Congressman and John Shimkus of Illinois.

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 26, 2009 04:10 PM (V9SYy)

Posted by: curious at October 26, 2009 04:10 PM (p302b)

156 Huckabee is a candidate that benefits from all the other candidates being so weak.  He's the John Edwards of the GOP without the incessant infidelity.

Posted by: WTFCI at October 26, 2009 04:04 PM (GtYrq)

(Deeply shuddering), if Huckabee had any illegitimate offspring, it would be known immediately--it would be sporting one of those awful blue and white striped shirts in utero.  (Remember his family pic?)

Posted by: Robert Hinson, President of Nambla, Official Obama Child Rearing Czar at October 26, 2009 04:10 PM (qP2BK)

157 152,

Stars and Stripes would be a good start for your flag.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 26, 2009 04:11 PM (gS9C7)

158 Another note about Paul Ryan.  Look out for any extended periods of media time for him.  From what I have seen he only gets a few minutes to speak his mind.  He's getting time delimited by the MSM.

If you give him a forum for 5 minutes to talk about policy I think he blows away the moderators.

Ryan has been asking questions in committee to Bernanke and Geithner relative to easing monetary risk with reform to health insurance and Medicare.

Posted by: WTFCI at October 26, 2009 04:12 PM (GtYrq)

159 Oops, sock off!  Oh, and Happy Belated Birthday to you, 'Nam Grunt!  I hope your day was as fabulous as you are!  (I'm sure it involved lots of good food!)

Posted by: runningrn at October 26, 2009 04:12 PM (qP2BK)

160

Another gen from the Libtards over at Yahoo news:

"Statisticians find no evidence of global cooling"

Stupid pricks haven't looked outside this year, I suppose.

Posted by: TexasJew at October 26, 2009 04:12 PM (j4nwi)

161 And that Anti-Mormon shit last year was disgusting. He should read the history of the Mormon people in this country before he opens his ignorant piehole. Some "good man".

Ding ding ding. I've seen no evidence that Certain Fuckin' Doomabee is a "good man" and plenty that he's cut from the same disgusting mold as Slick Willy.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at October 26, 2009 04:12 PM (Mi2wf)

162

Here we go down that tired road of "who the great speaker is"  F that, let's get someone that has the right fmg message for once.  We got our asses handed to us because of Mcain, and Mccain alone that tired old peice of crap

 

Obama sucks cock

Posted by: Todd (the guy who says Obama sucks cock) at October 26, 2009 04:13 PM (LLOGQ)

163 Palin: I endorse Hoffman.
Pawlenty: Well, I, uh, I like him too but, y'know, the RNC might not want...
Palin: C'MON!  WHERE ARE YOUR BALLS?! 
Pawlenty: OK.  I endorse Hoffman.

Question: Would Pawlenty have endorsed Hoffman if Palin didn't come out for him first?

Posted by: Crusty at October 26, 2009 04:13 PM (GvSpB)

164

Just to post... I just donated $200 to Doug Hoffman, I do not agree with this man on social issues, I am a pro-choice independent... however... I aboslutely agree with Doug Hoffman when it comes to issues like NO to this nationalized death-care, NO to more stimulus, YES to strong national defense, YES to indiv. rights.. NO to bigger govt!!!! 

 

Wow, my thoughts exactly. I'm not a Republican, I'm an Ex-Demonrat. HATE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

Sorry, got a little carried away there...

Posted by: Max Power at October 26, 2009 04:13 PM (q177U)

165

Another note about Paul Ryan.  Look out for any extended periods of media time for him.  From what I have seen he only gets a few minutes to speak his mind.  He's getting time delimited by the MSM.

The MSM absolutetly hates it when someone from our side is articulate and smart as well as good looking.  It ruins their whole meme about troglodyte, ill informed, drooling republicans. 

Posted by: runningrn at October 26, 2009 04:14 PM (qP2BK)

166 As someone who is very worried about economic issues, I am willing to give all the Republican hopefuls a look.

But Tim Pawlenty is really boring.  Can he win?  Speaking of low key, midwestern types, Mitch Daniels has a lot more to offer than Pawlenty.  I think Mitch is a smart enough guy to know what to do about the dollar, spending, energy, etc. His background is more well-rounded, too.

Posted by: chris999 at October 26, 2009 04:14 PM (B/WwP)

167

LOL at "Democratic Party"

Posted by: Max Power at October 26, 2009 04:14 PM (q177U)

168 Hey, whatever Palin says

Posted by: wHodat at October 26, 2009 04:14 PM (+sBB4)

169

With those three, that "Get Motivated" rally sounds like a RINO clusterfuck in Cowtown.

 

+1, TexasJew!

Posted by: TexMex at October 26, 2009 04:14 PM (rWkts)

170

While many here revile Huckabee, and I don't support him politically, I know the man personally. He is a good man.

He.  Can't.  Win.

That's not personal, it's fact.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 26, 2009 04:15 PM (B+qrE)

171

Question: Would Pawlenty have endorsed Hoffman if Palin didn't come out for him first?

I'm thinking not.  Which just goes to prove that Sarah Palin has bigger, brassier balls than all the men in the Republican party.

Posted by: runningrn at October 26, 2009 04:15 PM (qP2BK)

172 Mike Pence out of Indiana seems pretty good also.

Posted by: Mr. Fix it at October 26, 2009 04:17 PM (DIYmd)

173 The new America Conservative Party! F... Yeah!!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 26, 2009 04:17 PM (gS9C7)

174 My only regret is that we did not work quickly enough to properly "map-out" the dna structure of the Pawlenty family.

Posted by: M SANGER at October 26, 2009 04:17 PM (1B81L)

175 Just saw a commercial on Fox (Cavuto) put out by the Republican Party, slamming Hoffman. Looks like someone pushed the self destruct button.

Posted by: Bill R. at October 26, 2009 04:18 PM (EhlQq)

176

In other news, Lindsey Graham announced that he was not taking a position on NY 23.

"Those Yankees have enough roads, what about SC?"

Said Clueless in a press release.

Posted by: Kemp at October 26, 2009 04:19 PM (2+9Yx)

177

let me be clear

no pawlenty in '12

no fuckabee in '12

NO NEWT in '12

 

don't know who else there is

also, if nominated I will not run; if elected I will not serve

Posted by: Cool Money Grip at October 26, 2009 04:19 PM (KOkrW)

178 The good ol' boys on the Republican side are vewey worried and they should be because they suck!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 26, 2009 04:20 PM (gS9C7)

179 Inhofe has been pissing in the warmists' cereal for years. He should be the head of EPA.

Posted by: MRI at October 26, 2009 04:21 PM (aVQo/)

180 2012?  I'll take Jim Inhofe or Tom Coburn, in fact any citizen of Oklahoma will do.

Jim DeMint.  Mike Pence. 

Watch for John Kasich as a dark horse after he kicks Ted Strickland's ass in Ohio

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 26, 2009 04:22 PM (5aa4z)

181

>While many here revile Huckabee, and I don't support him politically, I know the man personally. He is a good man.

 

I have no doubt this is true. But I will not vote for his Bible-thumpin Gomer Pyle lookin fat ass.

I like the Bible as much as the next guy, but I want my country guided by the Declaration and the Constitution.

Posted by: Cool Money Grip at October 26, 2009 04:23 PM (KOkrW)

182

Newt, at a book signing, explaining his "rationale" for supporting Scozzafava:

http://tinyurl.com/yj6d3o2

 

Posted by: Langdon_Alger at October 26, 2009 04:23 PM (En7m1)

183
Speaking of establishment Republican leaning/conservative opinion, I can think of none supporting Scozzafava.  I think all of them are supporting Hoffman.  That includes NRO, the Wall Street Journal editorial page, Weekly Standard, etc.

That is how disconnected the Republican politicians are (including Newt).  I don't think Pawlenty needed Sarah to tell him which way the wind is blowing.  She was just a little quicker and smarter than Pawlenty to read the tea leaves.

Posted by: chris999 at October 26, 2009 04:24 PM (B/WwP)

184

to hell with newt

he's radioactive on a national scale

Posted by: Cool Money Grip at October 26, 2009 04:25 PM (KOkrW)

185 Just now on Cavuto he showed a GOP attack ad AGAINST Hoffman, and FOR that RINO chick...../facepalm

Posted by: Mord at October 26, 2009 04:26 PM (2CSLO)

186

Couple of other guys to look at - Jeff Flake, Arizona Congressman and John Shimkus of Illinois.

President Flake?  Christ, the press would have a ball with that one.

Posted by: Jewells at October 26, 2009 04:27 PM (l/N7H)

187 to hell with newt

he's radioactive on a national scale


What, you didn't see his love fest with Nancy Pelosi?

Posted by: That Shark at October 26, 2009 04:27 PM (4Kl5M)

188 Others may have noticed one Art Chance, achance, at Redstate, whose job it is to weewee on most comments and posts about Palin.  Achance, if you read his vitals, lost his job when Palin beat his boss for the governorship.  So it's not really surprising that redstate emphasizes Timmah over Sarah.  Just saying.  Profiles in courage, all.

Posted by: Timmah at October 26, 2009 04:28 PM (h5HHD)

189

 

It's official....

The Republican party has just gone full retard.

Posted by: Max Power at October 26, 2009 04:29 PM (q177U)

190 OK, RNC, are you listening yet:  The morons are telling you, go with Hoffman now!

Also the morons have nominated the following for 2012 prez, we will let you know our finalists:
Palin
Cheney, Liz
Mrs. Fred
Ryan
Flake
Inofe
Pence

Don't do anything until we tell you.



Posted by: Someone who wished the RNC actually listened and had principles at October 26, 2009 04:29 PM (DIYmd)

191 Time for a woman.  Palin, Liz Cheney, Bachmann.  Any or all will do for me.

Posted by: paranoid polly at October 26, 2009 04:30 PM (r7Vc3)

192 And that Anti-Mormon shit last year was disgusting. He should read the history of the Mormon people in this country before he opens his ignorant piehole. Some "good man".

Unfit to lead. Period.


Posted by: TexasJew at October 26, 2009 04:03 PM

Amen. Thank you, I'm glad someone addressed that "good man" nonsense. His attack on Mitt Romney over his Mormonism shows what an utter a-hole is Huckabee. Saying he is a good man is like all those stupid Obama-lovers saying "well, I may not like all his policies, but's he a good man". The f'ck he is. He's an America-hating racist. "Oh, well, he's a good father to his daughters though". The f'ck he is. He had them sitting in that racist, America-hating vitriolic cess-pool their entire lives.

"Good man" and "good father" seem to have gotten redefined somewhere along the way while I wasn't paying attention, apparently.

Posted by: Michael in MI at October 26, 2009 04:30 PM (ObTcs)

193 Anyone know what qualifies as an atrocious, evil capitalist of evil profit level... for a Chicago lawyer?

That's one of the ugliest things about Obama and Edwards. They went around bashing people who produced things, but had no compunctions about the level of compensation parasites like themselves could rake in as lawyers.

Posted by: Amos at October 26, 2009 04:31 PM (gDWoG)

194 I'd add Rubio to that list, but for 2016/20 rather than '12.

Posted by: Jim at October 26, 2009 04:32 PM (E725N)

195 181,

I agree, I believe in the the Lord Jesus wholeheartedly, but I don't want a fake to use his name for personal ambitions and huckleberry hound is just that, I saw through his ruse a long time ago and Romney is the same way, notice that Sarah doesn't do that she speaks the truth about America and business to grow jobs and help Americans enjoy their freedoms noone wants to hear that tho'!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 26, 2009 04:32 PM (gS9C7)

196 Gov. Pawlenty is a GREAT guy. Seriously. But he is a conservative not even by Minnesota standards. He was the best we could get in MN, but not even close to the best conservative we can get.

And I mean that about him being a genuinely good person.

Posted by: Tony B at October 26, 2009 04:33 PM (wICSC)

197 I think that the DCCC running an ad against Hoffman says more about the state of the race than the CFG Poll does.

Posted by: Jim at October 26, 2009 04:36 PM (E725N)

198

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Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 26, 2009 04:40 PM (gS9C7)

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That's pretty much exactly what I was going to say.

Posted by: notropis at October 26, 2009 04:40 PM (bfd0H)

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Posted by: Someone who wished the RNC actually listened and had principles at October 26, 2009 04:40 PM (DIYmd)

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Posted by: paranoid polly at October 26, 2009 04:30 PM (r7Vc3)

 

with all due respect, that is the kind of thinking that got us Obama

'it's time for a (fill in the blank yourselves so I don't get labeled a racist or something)'

 

I will happily vote for a woman for President- but based on her politics, not on her fuzzy wuzzy

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I'm sorry- I meant to write 'naughty bits'

Posted by: Cool Money Grip at October 26, 2009 04:42 PM (KOkrW)

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The upper midwest sees AGW as yet another opportunity for farm subsidies.

Ask yourself why any Minnesotan would be UPSET at global warming.

Think about it. It's Minnesota.

There's a website: MinnesotansForGlobalWarming.

I'm a global warming skeptic and I'm pissed about it. I WANT global warming.

If Pawlenty wants an out, there is plenty of scientific evidence that suggests that it's all bunk, Ace has posted most of it.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 26, 2009 04:42 PM (T0NGe)

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Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 26, 2009 04:42 PM (gS9C7)

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Posted by: Terry at October 26, 2009 04:44 PM (Vui52)

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Hence the title, "Going Rogue," not "Going Maverick."

"Going Commando" was also vetoed, I'm not sure why....

Posted by: notropis at October 26, 2009 04:47 PM (bfd0H)

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Did you ever read the foreign policy paper Huckabee wrote during the primary?  It was a retarded piece of drivel, written at a 6th-grade level.  If Palin ever wrote anything that fucking dumb the media would nail her coffin shut with it.  But they never went after the Dope From Hope.

If Palin went on national TV and talked about frying squirrel meat in a popcorn popper it would have been a running joke in the media for 37 years, but Huckabee got a pass.

Kinda tells you who the leftards are more afraid of, doesn't it?

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at October 26, 2009 04:48 PM (IoUF1)

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TexasJew # 139

Well, tell him to cut that compassionate conservative crap. Let him spend his own money. One Republican big government-loving dunce in the White House was quite enough.

Pointless, that's the real Mike Huckabee, and hence, I don't support him politically.

 

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Love Sarah Palin, but McCain ruined the term "maverick" for me.

OK, Terry, this may help.  The name "Maeve" means intoxicating, the name "Rick" is short for the name Richard.  Dick is also an abrievated name for Richard, hence the term you could think of when referring to McCain is "intoxicating dick"--I know it's a stretch, but hopefully, this helps!

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Posted by: chris999 at October 26, 2009 04:54 PM (B/WwP)

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Fuck Pawlenty. And fuck Newt too.

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Somewhere some time folks will realize that those in DC are in it for themselves NOT YOU, they believe that they are untouchable that's why we are in the situation we all are in today, time for a Conservative Party and throw the bums out!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 26, 2009 04:57 PM (gS9C7)

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>Where are the rest of the #$%king Republicans...the party can't be 100% RINO.

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Or because they knew Huckabee was the least credible candidate ever, and if he won the nomination he would be crushed in a 44 state blowout (45 if he managed to win Arkansas, which he probably wouldn't).

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>I will happily vote for a woman for President- but based on her politics, not on her fuzzy wuzzy

 

I'm sorry- I meant to write 'naughty bits'

Yeah but the first almost made me spew water on my keyboard. That was good.

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Posted by: Y-not at October 26, 2009 05:35 PM (sey23)

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In straw poll after straw poll, I hopefully clicked the Pawlenty button.  My bad.

He showed his ass on this first, post America, America issue, and he was found wanting.

Posted by: MDr at October 26, 2009 05:40 PM (ucq49)

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Maybe Arnold Schwarzenegger ruined that term....

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at October 26, 2009 05:41 PM (jV9DU)

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Posted by: Girl Thursday at October 26, 2009 05:57 PM (ksLWX)

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Posted by: kbdabear at October 26, 2009 06:22 PM (sYxEE)

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Posted by: thirteen28 at October 26, 2009 06:25 PM (aA1HZ)

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Tim Pawlenty?

oh, yeah i remember now... thanks for Franken you spineless dwib!

 

 

Posted by: shoey at October 26, 2009 06:26 PM (RxUMK)

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Who in the party is a better speaker, debater, conversationalist and speech giver?

 

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Posted by: Marybeth at October 26, 2009 06:29 PM (zQoWP)

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Posted by: Cubachi at October 26, 2009 06:32 PM (DTQIE)

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Cubachi

"They had to wait until Palin said something"

Worse, Tim Puta Boy had to wait until a recent poll that showed Hoffman might be challenging.  Nothing like one standing for their convictions, rather than a poll/Pol.

Bye, bye timmy.

Posted by: MDr at October 26, 2009 06:43 PM (ucq49)

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I thought you were kidding about "fawning" until I did what you said.......

 

Pawlenty has always been a girl in boy's clothing.  He'll get crushed in primaries.

Posted by: dad29 at October 26, 2009 06:48 PM (wrvLg)

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Actually Michelle Bachmann paved the way for Palin.  She was the first woman.

 

Posted by: Marybeth at October 26, 2009 06:53 PM (zQoWP)

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Posted by: Marybeth at October 26, 2009 06:55 PM (zQoWP)

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Oh, goody!  Pawlenty endorsed Hoffman, now Hoffman has a chance!  Pawlenty will attract moderates who were undecided!  Our savior!

Bull.  Pawlenty did this because, frankly, he can't afford not to.  Palin forced his hand.  He wants to run in 2012, and whether it's as a candidate or a kingmaker, the 'cuda's established herself as a force to be reckoned with.  If she plays kingmaker, he needs to curry her favor by appearing to have all the proper Conservative cred.  If she runs, he can't let her take too much of a lead so soon, can't seem to have been "scooped" by her.  If Hoffman wins, it's a feather in Palin's cap, and Pawlenty is trying to put an asterisk by Palin's assist -- "Yeah, she endorsed him, but who didn't?  Who's to say it was her endorsement and not mine that put him over the top?"  But I don't think the people he's trying to impress (conservatives) are going to be fooled.

As for the NRCC, screw 'em.  We don't need a RINO to win over moderates -- we need a principled conservative who understands where to give a little and where to stand firm on principles.  When he was still alive, my father loved to watch football, rooted for his favorite teams passionately.  But nothing pissed him off worse than when a team would sit on a lead.  He especially hated the "Prevent Defense" -- he called it the "Prevent Winning Defense"  He drilled it into me -- you don't play to not lose, you play to win.  The GOP is playing to not lose -- it's bending over backwards (and often just plain bending over) to avoid alienating anyone who might have at any point in the past, or might be considering anytime in the future, voting for anyone in ANY race who happens to have an "R" next to their name.  Meanwhile, we're failing to stand up for the very things that once defined us as conservatives, and we're STILL not winning, because now the party is alienating the people it once felt it could safely rely on.

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Posted by: Girl Thursday at October 26, 2009 07:40 PM (99YbL)

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Excellent.

Posted by: Barry Goldwater at October 26, 2009 08:04 PM (8HMr3)

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