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The brother and father of a Marine fighting the war in Afghanistan have some solid advice for our politically-challenged Commander in Chief.

As family members of a Marine deployed in Afghanistan, we know the
importance of timely decisions in the heat of battle--indecision in the
field puts troops at risk and leads to casualties. Likewise, the
president's indecision about the next steps in Afghanistan is placing
the overall mission and the troops on the ground at risk.

Announcing his counter-insurgency strategy for Afghanistan this past
March, President Obama said, "If the Afghan government falls to the
Taliban or allows al-Qaeda to go unchallenged, that country will again
be a base for terrorists who want to kill as many of our people as they
possibly can." This commitment was clearly re-affirmed by the president
in an August speech before the Veterans of Foreign Wars. Yet, the
president and his advisers are now engaged in a prolonged process of
re-thinking America's Afghanistan strategy. What has changed?

According to the White House, it would be irresponsible to act until
a credible resolution to the presidential elections in Afghanistan
emerges. But we fear, as many have reported, that the real reason for
delay is anxiety amongst civilian White House aides that an escalation
in Afghanistan will derail the president's domestic agenda. On the
latter, let us be clear--considerations of political expediency have no
place in the president's war room.

Man up Sir.

I think the rant I did just after he took office is particularly apt right now

Posted by: Uncle Jimbo at 01:18 PM

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According to the White House, it would be irresponsible to act until
a credible resolution to the presidential elections in Afghanistan
emerges.

And what does that have to do with the war on terror ? Absolutely nothing. Preznit "Lemme finish my waffle" is waffling once again while good men are dying.

Posted by: Blazer at October 24, 2009 01:24 PM (+FzLa)

2 Present

Posted by: Zero at October 24, 2009 01:26 PM (t/GDA)

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it is such a hollow excuse to do nothing.
o is a true coward.
my dog, with his sound basic instincts, would be a better C.I.C.

Posted by: nyc redneck at October 24, 2009 01:29 PM (dvpDK)

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The old guy is right. Obama is waffling because he is scared shitless of making any decision at all, because he'll piss somebody off no matter what he decides. He has no experience with leadership, and thus does not understand that the nature of decisions is that they always piss somebody off. He's on that journey of self-discovery that Hillary! warned us about.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 01:29 PM (I30wK)

5 excellent rant from Uncle Jimbo
if o sees that he's going to have to change his diaper.

Posted by: nyc redneck at October 24, 2009 01:33 PM (dvpDK)

6 U.S. Marines?
Never heard of them.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 24, 2009 01:36 PM (hVqAo)

7 Didn't SARAH warn us that an O presidency would be a journey of self-discovery?

Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 01:39 PM (B5cM9)

8 In related news, the war in Iraq doesn't really seem to be a war anymore. Did we win?

Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 01:40 PM (B5cM9)

9 A journey of self discovery? From a man who asks no real questions?
The deuce you say!

Posted by: owl at October 24, 2009 01:42 PM (t/GDA)

10 Why are UJ's posts always whacked looking (at least in Firefox)?

Posted by: whatmeworry? at October 24, 2009 01:45 PM (s3Ahp)

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Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 01:39 PM (B5cM9)

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Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 01:47 PM (I30wK)

13 Odumbass thinks popping an ambush is a Danish beer!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 24, 2009 01:47 PM (+nuCv)

14 On the bright side, Herr, you'd make an excellent journalist.
I keed! I keed!

Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 01:53 PM (B5cM9)

15 Give me back my Legions!

Posted by: Pattonicus at October 24, 2009 01:54 PM (dQdrY)

Can't this President, just for once, demonstrate some freakin' leadership.

What a disgrace.

Posted by: solitary knight at October 24, 2009 01:56 PM (kIn7u)

"There is one job we can't afford on-the-job training for -- our next president. That could be the costliest job training in history," Clinton said.

Posted by: Obama is a boil on America's butt at October 24, 2009 01:58 PM (kn+jW)

Delegating out your leadership to Joe Biden and John Kerry is not a winning strategy.

Richard Holbrooke ain't no freaking genius either.

Posted by: solitary knight at October 24, 2009 01:59 PM (kIn7u)

19 On the bright side, Herr, you'd make an excellent journalist.
I keed! I keed!

No. I was far too factual. And I issued a retraction.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 02:11 PM (I30wK)

20 Trying to think of something snarky to say. But can't. Can you imagine how much is sucks for our troops in Afghanistan?

Posted by: rae4palin at October 24, 2009 02:11 PM (t/pEj)

Great rant, UJ.

Obama will send in more troops, then change the ROE enough to render them ineffective. After about 18 months of this bullshit, Obama will start pulling out, and declare this an unwinnable war. Taliban and/or AQ fill the void, followed by a rogue nuke attack in NY harbor.

I really hope I'm wrong, but The Vapid One� just doesn't have the intellect to make a truly effective decision that promotes American goals or values. Perhaps a prayer for wisdom is in order, in addition to the ones for the troops and their families.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 24, 2009 02:17 PM (ZGhSv)

22 Help! I'm surrounded!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 24, 2009 02:19 PM (ZGhSv)

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Posted by: lorien1973 at October 24, 2009 02:20 PM (ZXnUe)

24 Who spilled ipecac on their keyboard?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 02:22 PM (h/zKr)

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Posted by: Alex's Cabin at October 24, 2009 02:31 PM (t5FC3)

27 The Iliad in its original text on Ace?

Not the original. That's from the Late Dynastic Gibberish Period.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 02:34 PM (h/zKr)

28 I just checked my email and realized all my spam is from politicians and golf courses. Not a single pron mail. Getting old sucks.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 02:37 PM (h/zKr)

Likewise, the president's indecision about the next steps in Afghanistan is placing the overall mission and the troops on the ground at risk.

Unfortunately, it isn't indecision, at all. The dithering IS the strategy and the risk The Precedent places our troops and mission in is the intention. This situation is far, far worse than most people realize.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at October 24, 2009 02:42 PM (A46hP)

Not the original. That's from the Late Dynastic Gibberish Period.

Ah yes, I remember now. Discovered by British archaeologist Lord Fauntleroy Fudgehammer in the late 19th century near Athens. The story is that he tripped over the portruding corner of the scrolls while running to the loo after a rough night of Athenian moonshine and fried goat entrails.

The scrolls were rumored to be cursed because he subsequently died on the WC immediately thereafter. Recent lab analysis shows that he was actually overcome by his own fumes.

Posted by: Alex's Cabin at October 24, 2009 02:43 PM (t5FC3)

31 Can someone delete all that crap??

I would hope so. I don't understand how that shit gets posted here. A simple server-side PHP edit could block and discard those posts.

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Posted by: Alex's Cabin at October 24, 2009 02:43 PM (t5FC3)

Indeed, my good man, the very same. A more recently discovered example of this high script is όνειρα από τον πατέρα μου, or in Dynastic Gibberish, �� ,�� ,�� ,

In other words, Dreams From My Father.

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Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 02:53 PM (h/zKr)

33 The domestic social re-engineering of America is, and always will be this administration's top priority. Unless foreign policy and/or military strategy can somehow enhance or expedite that singular goal, they are shoved to the furthest back burner on the Obama agenda stove. I find it criminally reprehensible that the lives of American servicemen are being held in the balance at the expense of ideology and ambition.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at October 24, 2009 02:54 PM (554T5)

34 Will Owe-bama stop funding for this awesome new Navy ship?

Hopefully not! God bless and preserve our soldiers, who have to endure idiot CiCs every so often.

Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 02:55 PM (B5cM9)

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Posted by: Skookumchuk at October 24, 2009 03:06 PM (btzPD)

Dreams from My Father

I believe Hunter S. Thompson's last work was a complete translation to English whilst on a particularly nasty peyote and scorpion venom binge. It was hailed as "coherent" and "riveting."

Posted by: Alex's Cabin at October 24, 2009 03:07 PM (t5FC3)

38 obama has more important things to do like screw us with obamacare[45 % of doctors will retire[Good bye doctors hello doctor shortages and specialists will be forced out of a job]

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The most interesting thing about όνειρα από τον πατέρα μου is that Dr. Nathaniel Puddingtits of Princeton Agricultural originally translated it as "Le Musings Marxiste de le Bebe Daddy". Sadly, before his works could be confirmed, the only known extant copy of the work was in the hands of a Dr. Ayers of Chicago when it was destroyed by fire, apparently a conflagration involving Sudafed, Brake Cleaner, and a water-filled smoking device shaped like a VW bus.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 03:21 PM (h/zKr)

40 Obama has manned up. He is not dithering. He is engaged in a Strategic Delay. He is waiting for the situation to deteriorate to such an extent that there will be a groundswell of public opinion demanding withdrawal. He will then do what he wants to do: withdraw.

The problem is not that Obama lacks courage or that he's stupid or naive. It's takes great courage to throw a war, but I think he's up to the job. He has 90% of the media engaging in malpractice and even his opponnets are afraid to point out that he didn't write that book or to ask him to produce papers proving he's eligible for the office he's occupying.

I'm saying he's not eligible. I am saying he's been empowered by the application of special rules, which apply only to him.

Posted by: Terry Gain at October 24, 2009 03:45 PM (Lh7lo)

41 This should have read

I'm not saying he's not eligible.

Posted by: Terry Gain at October 24, 2009 03:46 PM (Lh7lo)

If there were true leadership in Washington, he would withdraw from Af-Pak immediately.

This idea that we somehow have as our national security, the need to create a civil democracy in Afghanistan, is nonsense.

We can protect ourselves pretty well, even if Afghanistan is a basket case.

The 9-11 plotters didn't need a lawless state; they could have plotted and launched their attack just as well from right here. All they needed was boxcutters and clever planning.

Posted by: Reason60 at October 24, 2009 03:54 PM (ogXbt)

43 I call bullshit.

Posted by: sifty at October 24, 2009 04:04 PM (j6Q5Y)

44 Surrender and retreat in the face of the enemy used to be a firing squad offense.

Now it is a prerequisite for Democrat politicians.

Posted by: sifty at October 24, 2009 04:05 PM (j6Q5Y)

45 At least Nato has more balls than the UN.Some jigaboo dreams up the Rules of engagement and must be adhered to.Some of my men were getting hurt form harassment fire,so we unloaded on them for 2 days.When we ended that "skirmish" there was going to be hell to pay.Yup,they shipped our company out 6 weeks later and we got a hell of a homecoming.Some UN bigwigs were absolutely livid.lolPeacekeeping-my ass.

Posted by: chicocano at October 24, 2009 04:06 PM (ovILP)

46 Wow those were some insightful thoughts amidst all that gibberish. I think I got them all.

Cordially,

Uncle J

Posted by: Uncle Jimbo at October 24, 2009 04:41 PM (jo56i)

47 45 At least Nato has more balls than the UN.Some jigaboo dreams up the Rules of engagement and must be adhered to

Dude that is not really a word you ought to be using. Don't give ammo to the other team.

Cordially,

Uncle J

Posted by: Uncle Jimbo at October 24, 2009 04:43 PM (jo56i)

THANK YOU for this video!

also, on a sidenote... I notice Gibbs keeps saying "President will make a decision on Afghan. in the next few weeks"

What the hell? what the heck has the weakling being doing since March? I am convinced 100% that the weakling is waffling b/c he doesn't want to jeadordize the sinking 1 trillion dollar death-care plan. The US miltiary is already being used as a political pawn by this man who considers the US constitution "fundamentally flawed"

God Bless the troops, they already have a weakling man "in charge" and proven time and time again how much disdain he has for the US military. I was not fan of Bush, but Bush was man enough to do what was necessary and put the troops first, even as he, Bush, was ripped apart in the media. Bush at least understood the grave dangers this country faces, and the harsh sacrifices the men and women of the military make.

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at October 24, 2009 05:08 PM (ACkhT)

49 I know this is gonna piss Gabe off to no end but, I believe in the Heinlein method of determining citizenship. You don't vote and you cannot be elected if you haven't served.

Posted by: MCPO Airdale at October 24, 2009 05:37 PM (UGAk/)

You don't vote and you cannot be elected if you haven't served.

Hey! I tried to join the Navy but wasn't allowed because I suffer from asthma.

What if I kill a member of the KKK or a Neo Nazi? All square?

Posted by: Alex's Cabin at October 24, 2009 05:51 PM (t5FC3)

51 Not so much?

Posted by: Alex's Cabin at October 24, 2009 07:11 PM (t5FC3)

52 Pussies.

Posted by: Alex's Cabin at October 24, 2009 08:02 PM (t5FC3)

Posted by: تعب قلبي at October 24, 2009 10:36 PM (d7tmh)

54 Any student of history knows Afghanistan is where empires go to die. Say all you want about President Obama, but he has kept us safer than the preceding President did. (Bush was in office only 9 months before the worst attack on US soil)

Posted by: Cacti at October 24, 2009 10:40 PM (tv9mf)

55 You don't vote and you cannot be elected if you haven't served.

Americorp, VISTA or Peace Corps?

Posted by: Cacti at October 24, 2009 10:41 PM (tv9mf)

#54, you're an idiot. Jamie Gorelick, Clinton's deputy attorney general, and her ridiculous insistence that the intelligence agencies stay out of domestic security, had as much to do with Mohammed Atta and his merry men getting away with it on 9/11 as anyone.

As for the "where empires go to die" meme you lefties love to throw around, this from Amir Taheri.

OK, I would have this good stuff from Taheri. How the fuck do the spammers get to cut and paste their lace wig spam in every thread when I can't get one paragraph pasted without tripping Pixy's worthless filter?

If I ever meet Pixy, I'm punching him/her/it in the fucking genitals.

Posted by: SGT Dan at October 24, 2009 11:07 PM (0Yr25)

57 As for the "where empires go to die" meme you lefties love to throw around, this from Amir Taheri.

I don't give a crap where it's from. It's true. Ask the former Soviet Union for example.

ridiculous insistence, blah blah blah,

You break it , you bought it. GW asleep at the wheel when the storm hit. Snoozer.

Who is pixy?

Posted by: Cacti at October 25, 2009 12:08 AM (tv9mf)

58 Cacti:

http://tinyurl.com/yhbpdyk

Posted by: Lee at October 25, 2009 01:22 AM (TcVyy)

59 Cacti, you're still a fucking idiot. Research the Afghan War. In 1986, it was fucking over. Heavy tactical air support allowed ground forces of both the Soviet-backed Afghan government and the Soviets themselves to crush the muhajedin. The muj who were still alive were in refugee camps on the other side of the Khyber Pass in Pakistan. Reagan's decision to supply man-portable Stinger SAMs to the muj allowed them to knock down troop carrying helicopters, their Mi-24 Hind gunship support, and kept their fixed-wing air support (Flogger-D's, Frogfeet, and Flankers) up at altitudes where the CAS was less effective. Soviet losses skyrocketed, especially in expensive aircraft. This came in 1987-1988 when the Soviets were needing money to work on their own version of ballistic missile defense, expanding/modernizing their offensive nuclear arsenal, and Gorbachev was starting to realize he could afford the strategic war against the US or the theater war against an American proxy. Not both.

Second point to remember, the Soviets did not invade Afghanistan for the sake of Afghanistan. They wanted it as a stepping stone to invade Pakistan. Karachi, Pakistan would give them a warm water port that is not behind a hostile land obstacle (like the Black Sea and Baltic). That goal has been an ongoing objective of Russian/Soviet foreign policy since Peter the Great.

Posted by: SGT Dan at October 25, 2009 02:38 AM (oN/VZ)

60 Come on, troll, I'm waiting. Got any other good memes you want to try?

Posted by: SGT Dan at October 25, 2009 04:12 AM (oN/VZ)

61 Obama doubled the force in A-Stan in his first 8 months. These were the troops that were requested under Bush by McKiernan but Bush only supplied 20% of that request

Posted by: John ryan at October 25, 2009 11:13 AM (m0Q2u)

62 John, McKiernan also made that request before those same brigades he got (2nd and 4th of the 82nd for specific example) had finished their post-Iraq refitting where they had been part of the 2007 Iraq surge. The Army's ability to generate deployable forces on schedule drives the train more than politics. That's one reason so much of the troop movement into Afghanistan has been the Marines. If they cut into the number of Marine Expeditionary Units deployed worldwide, the USMC has a little more flex in their force generation model.

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