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| Good News, Lord MoncktonYou Can Untwist Your Knickers Now A few days ago Dave in Texas blogged this bit of a speech from Lord Christopher Monckton. If you haven't seen it, I heartily encourage you to follow the link and check it out. It's short but poignant. Lord Monckton is desperately worried that Obama will be a signatory at the Copenhagen conference, where a new and scarier climate change treaty is to be crafted. Fortunately, plans for global wealth redistribution (enrobed in phony environmentalism) are foundering on the objections of India and China. So it looks like there won't be anything for Obama to sign, anyway. Apparently, the Indians and Chinese recognize the direct connection between carbon emissions and standard of living. Having had more recent experience in that condition, they understand how living in a less-industrialized state is major suckage and misery. Not some Rousseauian fantasy that persists among the Birkenstocked crowd. Oh, and there's also this:Mr Obama flew to Boston yesterday to make the case for a wholesale American switch to clean energy, and to launch a six-week drive to persuade the world that the US is at last serious about joining international efforts to combat climate change. He will have his work cut out. As a presidential candidate, he held out the hope of signing a cap-and-trade Bill in time for Copenhagen. Since then, a deep recession and months of delays on healthcare reform have pushed climate change into third place on the domestic US agenda, after financial regulatory reform. That reform is seen as essential for cap-and-trade because of the need to rebuild trust in complex financial instruments after “an incredible nativist backlash against new markets” caused by the banking crisis, according to Paul Bledsoe, a former White House official at the National Commission on Energy Policy.It's sort of like seeing something glittering in a pile of ashes, yes, but it's something. This is the news I have for you today. Obama can't F us up because we're already so F'd up. Smile Morons, it's a good thing. I think. From Drudge. Comments1
That doesn't mean the Lindsey Grahams and the like ought to be let off the hook for buying into climate-alarmist silliness.
Posted by: mrkwong at October 24, 2009 10:27 AM (G8Eo0) 2
Don't start.
Posted by: lauraw at October 24, 2009 10:29 AM (hzwWK) Posted by: Oprahisanarrogantbeeyotch at October 24, 2009 10:31 AM (/yIJv) 4
How many times did he say "I" in Boston?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 10:31 AM (I30wK) Posted by: kefka at October 24, 2009 10:34 AM (n1uMU) 6
I think that says it all.
Posted by: kefka at October 24, 2009 10:34 AM (n1uMU) Posted by: lauraw at October 24, 2009 10:35 AM (hzwWK) 8
Obamavich, Reidsky and Pelosiyeva don't need no ficken chuckin treaty. They'll do whatever they want to via EPA regulations.
Posted by: Huckleberry at October 24, 2009 10:35 AM (F71c5) 9
sorry lauraw
Posted by: Oprahisanarrogantbeeyotch at October 24, 2009 10:36 AM (/yIJv) 10
Of all the people to set laura's hump aquiver, I never would have guessed Linseed Graham.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 10:36 AM (I30wK) 11
You know, mushrooms grow out of cow shit.
Posted by: Texas Larned at October 24, 2009 10:37 AM (QNKb3) 12
The good kind.
Posted by: Texas Larned at October 24, 2009 10:37 AM (QNKb3) Posted by: kefka at October 24, 2009 10:38 AM (n1uMU) 14
I'm just kidding, guys. You can accuse me of being a Lindsay Graham cheerleader and general Republican squish fan if you want.
I mean, it's obvious just from reading this post, right? Posted by: lauraw at October 24, 2009 10:40 AM (hzwWK) 15
Live Simply so that Others May Simply Live
Mindless fraud. Industrialized societies invent vaccines that battle pandemics. Posted by: bumper sticker at October 24, 2009 10:40 AM (4Kl5M) 16
General Republican squish! Grahamnesty fangirl!!1!1!!1
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 10:41 AM (I30wK) Posted by: IreneFingIrene at October 24, 2009 10:42 AM (pem/z) 18
Obama couldn't have done this anyway. International treaties have to be ratified by 2/3 of the Senate. 2/3 of the Senate can't even get together on government-run health care.
Posted by: Caiwyn at October 24, 2009 10:43 AM (R5D/T) 19
Funny that India and China are providing a voice of sanity on the glowbull warming horseshit, especially considering they have a very real pollution problem (the air around Delhi was pretty fucking bad when I was there a couple years ago and China is supposed to be significantly worse). That the Kyoto farce was to exclude them revealed it as a political power-grab that only a mentally ill borderline retard like Algore could buy into. I just hope that the idiot machinations of Stumblebum Ojizzmop don't completely reverse the under-reported good relations that GWB forged with India, a strategically placed and under-appreciated ally.
Posted by: Captain Hate at October 24, 2009 10:46 AM (oObEM) 20
Industrialized societies invent vaccines that battle pandemics.
Fuckers, that is the problem. With every passing moment that society allows any Joe Schmo to go to Uni and study microbiology increases the likelihood that some rich douchebag at Genentech will hire him and put him to work on some new vaccine. More people, more war, more capitalism, more poverty, more misery, more nasty bags of carbon that I might pass on the alder trail during my Sunday morning nature walks. WE will tell you what science says and YOU will not question it because you are a fucking mouthbreather, ok? Posted by: The Raging Leftist Id at October 24, 2009 10:48 AM (aVQo/) 21
Awesome.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at October 24, 2009 10:48 AM (eiOZw) 22
Obama couldn't have done this anyway. International
treaties have to be ratified by 2/3 of the Senate. 2/3 of the Senate
can't even get together on government-run health care.
Posted by: Caiwyn at October 24, 2009 10:43 AM (R5D/T) I don't know about relying on the Senate. Let's just say I avoid Capitol Hill like the plague. Posted by: The Chicken at October 24, 2009 10:49 AM (I30wK) 23
an incredible nativist backlash against new markets
Indeed. My current feelings about financial reform involve long ass-pounding prison sentences for those who destroyed our life savings. Posted by: toby928: restless native at October 24, 2009 10:50 AM (PD1tk) 24
The world will respond to my personal appeal. It will. It will! It! I'm appealing. That will get us by. I have a lot of personal appeal. I am personably appealing. I. I. Did I mention "I"? Because I have appeal. I've had it all my life. You should see how people suck up to me. I didn't even have to make good grades. I'm above grades and shit. The world will bend to my warming gesture.
Posted by: O'Bama at October 24, 2009 10:50 AM (QNKb3) 25
China's climate fist? Still clenched.
Posted by: toby928: restless native at October 24, 2009 10:52 AM (PD1tk) 26
More people, more war, more capitalism, more poverty, more misery, more nasty bags of carbon that I might pass on the alder trail during my Sunday morning nature walks.
We live better with 7 billion people on the planet than we did when there was barely 100 million, back when life was mean, nasty, brutish & short. Posted by: battling sock puppet at October 24, 2009 10:53 AM (4Kl5M) 27
I just realized who O'Bama reminds me of.
Posted by: Guy Who Can't Remember at October 24, 2009 10:53 AM (QNKb3) 28
If OhBambi was serious about "clean energy" will would be building nuclear power plants from the mountains, to the valley, to the oceans, white with foam.
Green is the new red. Posted by: MCPO Airdale at October 24, 2009 10:54 AM (UGAk/) 29
Schmoozing is a legitimate substitute for leadership. Sun Zoo Qwong said so.
Posted by: Free Association Guy (FAG) at October 24, 2009 10:56 AM (QNKb3) 30
You hoomans can barely fathom my intricacies! Control me? Ha! I shall summon the she-beast Krakatoa and watch you tremble in the light of a million pathetic kindling fires!
Posted by: Non-linear chaos at October 24, 2009 10:57 AM (aVQo/) Posted by: gus at October 24, 2009 11:01 AM (Vqruj) 32
The world will respond to my personal appeal. It will. It will! It!
I'm appealing. That will get us by. I have a lot of personal appeal.
I am personably appealing. I. I. Did I mention "I"? Because I have
appeal. I've had it all my life. You should see how people suck up to
me. I didn't even have to make good grades. I'm above grades and
shit. The world will bend to my warming gesture.
It's like you're a sociopath, or something. Posted by: Tom in Korea at October 24, 2009 11:02 AM (+gX1+) 33
Look at it this way LIBTARDS. When Milwaukee is 90 degrees in February, I won't have to board AIR FORCE ONE for a trip to Floriday.
Posted by: gus at October 24, 2009 11:04 AM (Vqruj) 34
So Obama has to be really torn--the communists and the sorta-communists don't wanna be the fall guys for "global warming". That has gotta be so confusing to him. The reds don't seem to grasp the redistribution of wealth thing--or they don't want their own rising wealth redistributed---they are becoming more capitalist because that's all that works. Then again it may be that Obama wants redistribution for the "darker" corners of the world and sees the Russians and Chinese as typical northern hemisphere disruptors. Amazing that a giant fraud inteneded to take the wealth of the US and make it unable to produce more wealth has so many followers. Question: How does destroying the economy in the US actually help the darker corners? Wouldn't it actually hurt them? Posted by: Ulysses S. Grant at October 24, 2009 11:04 AM (xHip6) 35
Al Gore won't come within' a hundred miles of Lord Monckton. China and India are giving the middle finger to Barry Mugabe and the U.N. Aaaaahahahahahahahahaha. Never thought I'd see the day when I'd be cheering the Chi-Coms on. Posted by: Blazer at October 24, 2009 11:06 AM (+FzLa) 36
I knew a guy who worked as a sub for a public high school. Every month or so he'd fill in for a science class and the assignment would simply be to watch An Inconvenient Truth. The warmist movement is damaging the proper understanding of science, which is in of itself an acceptable goal to the leftist. Poison the well of knowledge and we will create a generation of intemperate fools what think we can control the weather. The ugly American.
Posted by: MRI at October 24, 2009 11:07 AM (aVQo/) 37
How does destroying the economy in the US actually help the darker corners? Wouldn't it actually hurt them?
We'll have our man paid off. Voila! Fiefdom. Posted by: Minutes of a Soros bull session at October 24, 2009 11:10 AM (aVQo/) 38
Is it Necessary for India , China, to sign on, for this to be implemented? i had read China will benefit by selling innovation, while other industrialized nations will pay the bill and be responsible for Free technology and innovation for for the have not countries .
Posted by: willow at October 24, 2009 11:11 AM (1kwr2) 39
How did we get a true buffoon in the White House?
Posted by: Guy Who Wonders About Buffoons at October 24, 2009 11:11 AM (QNKb3) 40
HAARP is mind control.
Posted by: Lunatic Lefty at October 24, 2009 11:11 AM (aVQo/) 41
A true one.
Posted by: Guy Who Wonders About Buffoons at October 24, 2009 11:11 AM (QNKb3) 42
Who will Obama blame? (Besides Bush)
Posted by: Reiver at October 24, 2009 11:11 AM (q1zgR) 43
i had read China will benefit by selling innovation,
That's about the worst plan ever, considering China hasn't really done innovation in 1500 years. Posted by: Tom in Korea at October 24, 2009 11:12 AM (+gX1+) 44
Here's why China objects to the climate change treaty:
http://www.chinahush.com/2009/10/21/amazing-pictures-pollution-in-china/ China is the biggest and most toxic polluter in the world. These photographs can turn your stomachs. Posted by: Bob at October 24, 2009 11:12 AM (xGUcJ) 45
Green is the new red.
Posted by: MCPO Airdale at October 24, 2009 10:54 AM (UGAk/) Thats exactly what it is, massive redistribution of wealth on a global scale disguised as environmentalism. These guys try to re-package communism about every 30 years or so. A turd with giftwrap and a bow on it is still a turd Posted by: Blazer at October 24, 2009 11:13 AM (+FzLa) 46
re: EPA. true story. a president of local corporation wanted to heat one of the offices with corn burning stove. EPA objected. you wanna know the reason? because corn kernels on the ground are pollution.
Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 24, 2009 11:13 AM (TEIZr) 47
Tom, well they are wonderful at stealing ideas.
Posted by: willow at October 24, 2009 11:14 AM (1kwr2) Posted by: O'Bama's Exposed Ego at October 24, 2009 11:15 AM (QNKb3) 49
i really need to learn to read and speak mandarin.
Posted by: willow at October 24, 2009 11:17 AM (1kwr2) 50
Laura either you are retarded or just plain stupid.
You choose. Posted by: gusGus, aren't you getting a little emotional? Definately puts you in the "Feeling" Camp. Posted by: sTevo at October 24, 2009 11:17 AM (eA3tl) 51
Copenhagen Conference imma let you finish but the Kyoto protocal was one of the best environmental treaties of all time. Of all time ! Posted by: Kanye West at October 24, 2009 11:18 AM (+FzLa) 52
You hoomans can barely fathom my intricacies!
Control me? Ha! I shall summon the she-beast Krakatoa and watch you
tremble in the light of a million pathetic kindling fires!
Posted by: Non-linear chaos at October 24, 2009 10:57 AM (aVQo/) Speaking of non-linear chaos, the web-bot, if you're into such things, is predicting bad juju for 5:12 AM Monday. Thankfully, the time zone is unknown, so there's still some surprise left. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 11:19 AM (I30wK) Posted by: dananjcon at October 24, 2009 11:19 AM (1B81L) 54
The EPA has some seriously creepy radio commercials about lethal doses of Radon present in homes. Two nervous women talking about how they're scared of Radon induced cancer and all they need to do is call the EPA and have them inspect their home.
Posted by: MRI at October 24, 2009 11:19 AM (aVQo/) 55
or laura just thinks obama gives a damn which he doesn't
Posted by: Oprahisanarrogantbeeyotch at October 24, 2009 11:20 AM (/yIJv) 56
I got a good feeling about this.
Posted by: Luke Skywalker at October 24, 2009 11:20 AM (QNKb3) 57
I got a good feeling about this.
Posted by: Princess Leia at October 24, 2009 11:21 AM (QNKb3) 58
I got a good feeling about this.
Posted by: Han Solo at October 24, 2009 11:21 AM (QNKb3) 59
I was really depending on a little warming to bring my winter natural gas bill down.
Posted by: Dagny at October 24, 2009 11:21 AM (oWLkz) 60
Drop some knowledge on this moron. What is a web-bot and is it yet sentient? I suspect an inside job.
Posted by: MRI at October 24, 2009 11:21 AM (aVQo/) 61
Tom, well they are wonderful at stealing ideas.
This is true. But stealing is not the same as innovation. Unless that word's meaning has been changed in the wonderful Age of Obama as well. Posted by: Tom in Korea at October 24, 2009 11:22 AM (+gX1+) 62
@44 Thanks for the link. Startling pictures. Reading the comments, guess whose fault it all is?
Posted by: kefka at October 24, 2009 11:22 AM (n1uMU) 63
I miss AGW, was looking forward to january golf in north east.
The phrase to work from is 'Solar Minimum' Posted by: fluffy, skeptic at October 24, 2009 11:22 AM (4Kl5M) 64
Blurrrp, lurrrrrp, lurrrp. Lurp, lurp.
Posted by: Chewing Tobacco at October 24, 2009 11:22 AM (QNKb3) 65
Herr , i cannot figure out which is the real web-bot site, do you have it?
Posted by: willow at October 24, 2009 11:22 AM (1kwr2) Posted by: Cromagnum at October 24, 2009 11:23 AM (rRlh2) 67
Squeek squeeksqueeksqueeksqueek. Squeeksqueeksqueek.
Posted by: R2DayTowa at October 24, 2009 11:23 AM (QNKb3) Posted by: Somali pirate on hijacked Chinese ship at October 24, 2009 11:23 AM (+FzLa) 69
62 Not looking at the pictures or comments but I can guess whose fault it is! It's the fault of the U.S., more specifically, George Bush? With a side of american/british imperialism.
Posted by: Dagny at October 24, 2009 11:24 AM (oWLkz) 70
Herr , i cannot figure out which is the real web-bot site, do you have it?
Posted by: willow at October 24, 2009 11:22 AM (1kwr2) halfpasthuman.com The update comes from George Ure at urbansurvival.com. He's part of that gang. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 11:24 AM (I30wK) Posted by: Al Gore the Elder at October 24, 2009 11:24 AM (rRlh2) 72
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday
shows that 30% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that
Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%)
Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating
of -10.
Posted by: Tami at October 24, 2009 11:25 AM (VuLos) 73
It ain't no crisis. If it were, we'd be building 200 nuke plants across the country to stop the scourge of CO2! As stated here earlier, it's about further government control (aka "Socialism") of the economy.
Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 11:25 AM (B5cM9) Posted by: Carpe Pudenda at October 24, 2009 11:25 AM (QNKb3) 75
Kidneys, mmmm mmm mmm.
Posted by: Chinese Navy Guy Eyeing Somali Pirate at October 24, 2009 11:26 AM (aVQo/) 76
Thank you Herr, I've been hearing more of this in last weeks, and was interested in trying to understand the concept .
Posted by: willow at October 24, 2009 11:26 AM (1kwr2) 77
Drop some knowledge on this moron. What is a web-bot and is it yet sentient?
Originally, the idea was to send crawlers out on the web to gather scuttlebutt on hot stock tips. Basically, it was looking for emotional clues, gathering people's perceptions. It came back with some spooky shit that may or may not predict future events, the idea being that collective conscience is prescient in some manner. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 11:26 AM (I30wK) 78
@54 radon.. that old gag has been perpetrated in NJ for 30+ years now...a whole industry created, you can't sell your house if not tested and "mitigated" just another gov't vehicle too bleed us dry.
Posted by: dananjcon at October 24, 2009 11:26 AM (1B81L) 79
Creg, and i believe in the Copenhagen document , Nuclear was not an allowed option. weird!
Posted by: willow at October 24, 2009 11:27 AM (1kwr2) 80
Not looking at the pictures or comments but I can guess whose fault it
is! It's the fault of the U.S., more specifically, George Bush? With a
side of american/british imperialism.
heh, I didn't see any mention of Bush(I didn't go too far into the comments either though), but other than that you are right on target. Posted by: kefka at October 24, 2009 11:27 AM (n1uMU) Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 24, 2009 11:27 AM (Poe30) Posted by: Chines Sailor with a bullhorn shouting at Somali pirates at October 24, 2009 11:28 AM (+FzLa) 83
...we'd be building 200 nuke plants across the country...
Posted by: Why I Like Sarah P at October 24, 2009 11:29 AM (aVQo/) 84
"...I avoid Capitol Hill like the plague." A plague on Capital Hill may be the only thing that saves the Republic. When the Senate passed on Kyoto, two Euro representatives admitted that it was more about leveling the economic playing field than global warming. Does anyone remember their names or better yet have the articles? I lost mine when my hard drive died. Posted by: MDr at October 24, 2009 11:29 AM (ucq49) 85
30% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President The tyranny of the minority. Posted by: Dang Straights at October 24, 2009 11:30 AM (Dh+s2) 86
My 80 year old aunt claims that last winter was the coldest she ever experienced (in north central Illinois). Not science, but interesting.
Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 11:30 AM (B5cM9) 87
Obama will try an end around via the EPA
Posted by: pat at October 24, 2009 11:30 AM (H4DAM) Posted by: maddow's middle finger at October 24, 2009 11:32 AM (1B81L) Posted by: Hugo Chavez at October 24, 2009 11:32 AM (+FzLa) 90
OT- Oh, great, ABC radio says Obama declared a "swine flu emergency". 1st of many, many emergencies I'm sure.
Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 11:32 AM (B5cM9) 91
when all the global warming advocates start riding their bicycles to their speeches, work and grocers shops -not flying but only communicating but in the least carbonfootprint manner. like telepathy, or tin cans with string. i'll take this seriously.
Posted by: willow at October 24, 2009 11:33 AM (1kwr2) 92
Since there has been no detectable sea level rise, I don't know what all the hysteria is about. It's insane, like something from the Middle Ages. Posted by: TexasJew at October 24, 2009 11:34 AM (dcKUM) Posted by: Oprahisanarrogantbeeyotch at October 24, 2009 11:35 AM (/yIJv) Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 11:35 AM (I30wK) 95
Obama is running face-first into the brick wall of objective reality.
Think about it: all his hopeychangey plans are based entirely on
wishful thinking and outright fantasy. He and his Greenie
human-extinction supporters wish really hard
that they can make people stop burning that icky carbon. But people
need energy and you can blather all you like about "green jobs" without
altering the energy content of petroleum one erg per kilogram.
His defense plans are the same: he and the rest of the America-hating bunch wish really hard that they could abolish American military power and make everyone into happy fluffy bunnies. But you can blather all you like about "soft power" without changing the hate and self-interest of Putin and Ahmedinejad one iota. Economics? He and his stimulus-spending buddies in Congress can wish really hard that spending a trillion dollars overnight will solve America's economic woes and won't burden us with crushing debt or hyperinflation. But you can blather all you like about "smart growth" without changing the laws of economics at all. Posted by: Trimegistus at October 24, 2009 11:39 AM (6yEzu) 96
Looks like Obama isnt gonna sign on to this piece of crap after all. Like pat said above, he'll probably just use the EPA. http://tinyurl.com/yjy4uo9 Posted by: Blazer at October 24, 2009 11:39 AM (+FzLa) Posted by: TexasJew at October 24, 2009 11:41 AM (dcKUM) 98
The end of Monckton's excellent speech was short, poignant and WRONG. The POTUS can't bind the US to a treaty at the stroke of a pen. Congress doesn't have the Dem and GOP votes to ratify that treaty, which requires "2/3 of Senators present". The POTUS and Congress are not vested with POWERS or "authority" under the Constitution to cede US sovereignty. If they did, what the frack would be the point of enumerating powers, or having checks and balances? Or even having a Constitution? Yes, Obumblefuck might try an end-run using the EPA. But the EPA cannot take tax money and give it to the UN. NO, there is no such thing as a "forever" treaty. We've abrogated other treaties before, and we can do it again. So Monckton was bed-wetting on this. But the science part ---whoa!!! Posted by: effinayright at October 24, 2009 11:42 AM (k6cRx) 99
Why do you all hate lauraw? And puppies? Why do you like her? And I love puppies. Wrapped in bacon. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 11:43 AM (I30wK) 100
Lord Monckton You Can Untwist Your Knickers Now Is Laura implying Monckton's a crossdresser because he's a brit? Posted by: Dang Straights at October 24, 2009 11:43 AM (Dh+s2) 101
Gus, you're a drummer, right?
Posted by: Dave in Texas at October 24, 2009 11:46 AM (eiOZw) 102
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 11:43 AM (I30wK) Because I am a "Big Tent" Republican and believe that our tent should be large enough to encompass both Karl Marx and Adolph Schickelgruber. Posted by: TexasJew at October 24, 2009 11:48 AM (dcKUM) Posted by: Carpe Feminam (rdb) at October 24, 2009 11:49 AM (QNKb3) Posted by: Carpe Feminam (rdb) at October 24, 2009 11:50 AM (QNKb3) 105
With every day that passes, the flimsy underpinnings of the AGW fraud unravel more and more.
If we don't sign onto this bullshit in this go-round, there's a great chance that the whole issue collapses entirely. Also, with the PDO cycle we're entering setting us up for about 30 years of cooling, I can look forward to talking these same idiots off the ledge about the looming manmade ice-age as a retirement avocation. Posted by: Andy at October 24, 2009 11:50 AM (VMyjP) 106
And I love puppies. Wrapped in bacon. And bunnies? And Bambi? And Ol' Yeller?
Posted by: Carpe Feminam (rdb) at October 24, 2009 11:49 AM (QNKb3) Don't be silly. Ol' Yeller was breaded. Everybody cried because of the onions. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 11:50 AM (I30wK) 107
For your entertainment: the web bot warning from earlier this month (can be found by googling web bot flash warning):
Heads up! Reality Change Ahead! in running our MOM (model of modelspace) cleanup of the lexicon prior to tuning, it became apparent that October 25 turn in emotions globally will be dominated by a [lock down/implosion] of the [planetary financial/banking system]. The data suggests that such things a [currency trading] and [commodities trading] as well as many other [digital trading forms] will be [suspended]. Some will never resume, or if they do, they will be in entirely different forms. There may be a [banking lock up] in many countries emanating from the USofA outward. There may be [inter bank lock downs] in which [central banks] and [wealth storage clearling houses] will not be able to function. There are data sets suggesting that the rapid shift into building tension language on the 25th originates from and is propelled by the [financial system implosion] that then morphs over into [dollar rejected by all] a mere 10/ten days (more or less) later. There may be shut downs of all kinds of banking activity within the USofA and the rest of the anglosphere. The [sudden/urgent travel] of the [administration (obama et al) minions] in early November, under this MOM background load shows up as being about [desperately trying] to get the rest of the [planet] to [loan] the actual [resources/wealth] to [restart] the [USofA banking system]. This MOM data set can be wrong in a way that the larger modelspace can not. The MOM set is so small that if it is wrong it is usually widely so. However, the data sets here are so focused, and bring in such crisp emotional shifts relative to the same days (10-25-2009), that it made senseto prepare this note. If correct, this is the beginning of "The Big One" relative to the dollar and the central banking system. Everything else in the modern world depends on this structure...so it will be a big one throughout all of the social infrastructure. If MOM is correct, then the [dollar death] will be way more dramatic and waaaay shorter than i had first thought. MOM is showing very dramatic language shifts (albeit against a much smaller background) for not only October 25, but also in a very sharp crocodile tooth pattern from November 4 through December 10th indicating a very very emotionally choppy time. So, heads up! Reality shift (time/event bump) just ahead. If MOM is correct, there will be some additional levels of [visibility] on October 10th through the 15th that will put a focus on the 'trigger' that will show on October 25th and beyond. Posted by: shibumi at October 24, 2009 11:51 AM (OKZrE) Posted by: HH at October 24, 2009 11:51 AM (+jvXp) 109
Yeah, but he yelled a lot. That wasn't faked.
Posted by: Carpe Feminam (rdb) at October 24, 2009 11:52 AM (QNKb3) 110
You have something of relevance to say hh?
Posted by: Oprahisanarrogantbeeyotch at October 24, 2009 11:52 AM (/yIJv) 111
The first Presidential candidate to come out and call this for the scam it is moves to the head of the pack. The public doesn't believe it any more.
'Green' energy, too. Posted by: nickless at October 24, 2009 11:53 AM (MMC8r) 112
I think Laura is awesome, good humor, which is always an asset. and cuter than a ladybugs baby toes, hump and all.
Posted by: willow at October 24, 2009 11:53 AM (1kwr2) Posted by: Oprahisanarrogantbeeyotch at October 24, 2009 11:53 AM (/yIJv) 114
I agree with Willow. I want to see her hump.
Posted by: Carpe Feminam (rdb) at October 24, 2009 11:55 AM (QNKb3) Posted by: Dang Straights at October 24, 2009 11:55 AM (Dh+s2) 116
113
man is going to cause another ice age in 25 years huh? i highly doubt it Posted by: Oprahisanarrogantbeeyotch at October 24, 2009 11:53 AM (/yIJv) It's always too hot or too cold. I'll just shoot one of those damn polar bears and stop worrying about it! Posted by: Goldilocks at October 24, 2009 11:56 AM (dcKUM) 117
Web-bot is a pretty good scam those guys got running. Wish I had thought of it.
Posted by: Dang Straights at October 24, 2009 11:55 AM (Dh+s2) I'm ambivalent. In June, 2001 they did predict an earth-shattering event within 60-90 days. Who knows. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 11:57 AM (I30wK) 118
International Negotiations Result in China and India Agreeing Not to Laugh at U.S. Global Warming Policies: http://tinyurl.com/yd9kank Posted by: Mervis Winter at October 24, 2009 11:57 AM (uk5lh) 119
Remember when these assholes were wailing about "the energy crisis"? By now. Well, by 1980 or so. We were supposed to be out of oil. Lemme guess. The same assholes who got hysterical about that are the ones yammering about nuclear energy coal carbon dioxide. And meat. I'm so tired of that shit. One should learn before one wails. Posted by: Carpe Feminam (rdb) at October 24, 2009 12:00 PM (QNKb3) Posted by: dogfish at October 24, 2009 12:00 PM (sGaoh) 121
I'm ambivalent. In June, 2001 they did predict an earth-shattering event within 60-90 days. Who knows. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 11:57 AM (I30wK) They were right back then - Smashing Pumpkins broke up. Posted by: TexasJew at October 24, 2009 12:00 PM (dcKUM) 122
International Negotiations Result in China and India Agreeing Not to Laugh at U.S. Global Warming Policies
No way they'll hold up their end. I can't. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 12:01 PM (I30wK) 123
73 You know what's really really fun? When one of the environmentalists comes to the door, like green peace, or sierra club with one of their environ petitions. Listen, then ask them about nuclear power. Would that be one of the energy alternatives that you're talking about? They always say no. Then ask why? This is fun because they don't know and make something up like--its not safe. Ask them why it isn't safe. They site 3 mile island. ask them how many people died at 3 mile island. Then ask how many people have died from nuclear accidents in France or on our nuclear subs and air craft carriers. Ask why they think nuclear power isn't safe? It is so much fun. Then you get to tell them that they aren't serious and if their movement were actually about clean fuel then it would be in favor of nuclear power. Tell them that since their movement is against nuclear power it is really about socialism but they are too young to understand. Think about it. When my husband sees them coming--he starts yelling, "Honey leave the poor kid alone" as I lick my lips in anticipation. Posted by: Dagny at October 24, 2009 12:01 PM (oWLkz) 124
BTW, I remember the days of "global cooling." You know what the common thread in all this is? Arrogance. To think you know all the facts. To think we could have an impact. Geebus. Posted by: Carpe Feminam (rdb) at October 24, 2009 12:01 PM (QNKb3) 125
Just ate some bacon that I found in the fridge.
What do they call pasta when they add bacon? Carbonera. Double score! Posted by: fluffy at October 24, 2009 12:02 PM (4Kl5M) 126
Web-bot is a pretty good scam those guys got running. Wish I had thought of it.
Posted by: Dang Straights at October 24, 2009 11:55 AM (Dh+s2) Me too,.... although I did create the internet, so theres that. Posted by: Al Gore at October 24, 2009 12:02 PM (+FzLa) 127
All of Obama's programs, whether it's cap and trade, socialized medicine, or "financial reform", bear a creepy resemblance to the Thalidomide fiasco of 1957-1961.
Find out why he's: President Thalidomide Posted by: naturalfake at October 24, 2009 12:04 PM (HylJ6) 128
I'm sad I have to depend upon China and India to bitch slap Teh One back into reality.
Posted by: dogfish at October 24, 2009 12:05 PM (sGaoh) 129
Posted by: Al Gore at October 24, 2009 12:02 PM (+FzLa) But I thought Ron Popeil invented the Internet, along with the Pocket Fisherman and the Cap Snaffler. Posted by: TexasJew at October 24, 2009 12:05 PM (dcKUM) Posted by: HH at October 24, 2009 12:05 PM (+jvXp) 131
I'm glad people are finally figuring out this dude is dumber than a flat Arkansas river rock. Too bad that didn't happen before the election. But. The media didn't care. (I know; dog bites man.)
Posted by: Carpe Feminam (rdb) at October 24, 2009 12:07 PM (QNKb3) 132
I just put my Chia Obama in storage, next to my case of unopened Billy Beer. Think I can get a million for it by 2015? In gold, of course... Posted by: TexasJew at October 24, 2009 12:07 PM (dcKUM) 133
Ah, so everyone is required to get a vaccination against Fox News.
This is some dicey shit. Saturday Morning is a suspicious time to declare a national emergency. No trust. Posted by: Salem at October 24, 2009 12:09 PM (86rbG) 134
I hereby declare a "Dumbass President" national emergency.
Posted by: TexasJew at October 24, 2009 12:11 PM (dcKUM) 135
We should do a pool on who O'Bama will blame next. In fact, it could be a weekly thing, with the pot carrying over if no one gets blamed. (Right. I know.) Posted by: Carpe Feminam (rdb) at October 24, 2009 12:11 PM (QNKb3) 136
But wait, Lindsay Graham has plans to sell the country down the river in partnership with John Kerry.
Posted by: DaMav at October 24, 2009 12:13 PM (W2KIY) 137
He was a COMMUNITY AGITATOR. What the fuck did people think his SKILLS were? Posted by: gus at October 24, 2009 12:13 PM (Vqruj) Posted by: Dang Straights at October 24, 2009 12:14 PM (Dh+s2) 139
TJ, lemme tell ya, Billy Beer was absolutely the worst beer I have ever had. Bar none. And I like beer, pretty much any kind.. Had it yes, in Plains. On a hot day back in the 70's.. I'd suggest dumping it out, but I hate to think of that crap getting into the ground or water system. Maybe donate it to a thousand yr time capsule. Just a suggestion... Posted by: HH at October 24, 2009 12:16 PM (+jvXp) 140
My current feelings about financial reform involve long ass-pounding prison sentences for those who destroyed our life savings.
Yeah, but Barney Frank would probably enjoy it too much. Posted by: OregonMuse at October 24, 2009 12:16 PM (eR37w) 141
nyone here know someone who actually HAS the 'swine flu'?
I've got a fever for more bacon. Where does that score on your poll? Posted by: fluffy at October 24, 2009 12:16 PM (4Kl5M) 142
Interesting how yesterday the open skepticism about the flu was a story and today its a National Emergency. They arent worried about people getting the flu, theyre worried about people getting the CLUE. Imagine what happens when theres a real pandemic.
Posted by: Salem at October 24, 2009 12:16 PM (86rbG) Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 24, 2009 12:16 PM (+nuCv) 144
The leadership of our country consists of Opie, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid. We are FUCKED. And if someone was to blow Opies head off. We'd get Joe Biden.
Posted by: gus at October 24, 2009 12:17 PM (Vqruj) 145
of course we should take our clues of social responsibility from the Chinese, that only makes sense.
Posted by: John ryan at October 24, 2009 12:18 PM (m0Q2u) Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 12:18 PM (B5cM9) 147
we might suffer another ice-age by 2015
Posted by: Oprahisanarrogantbeeyotch at October 24, 2009 12:18 PM (/yIJv) 148
Couple ER folks I know say they've had an early start to flu season with particularly bad cases, especially in children. Then again, there is a large Mexican population here.
Posted by: MRI at October 24, 2009 12:18 PM (aVQo/) 149
John Ryan shutup before that irony guy gets back.
Posted by: Anita Dunn at October 24, 2009 12:19 PM (aVQo/) 150
My kid had the swine flu 2 weeks ago. We started Tamiflu 1 day after he came down with it, and after 2 days of 102 plus temps, his fever broke. Two days after that, he had respiratory symptoms and reqired a breathing treatment at the doctors office. He does have the pre-existing asthma, so he had that working against him. 1 week out of school and 5 pounds lighter, he was well. Half his class was out sick the same week. Posted by: Who Knows at October 24, 2009 12:19 PM (7FgWm) 151
yeah john ryan we should take it from the jihadists in iran right?
you retard democraps such as bill clinton have shilled for the chicoms anyway Posted by: Oprahisanarrogantbeeyotch at October 24, 2009 12:19 PM (/yIJv) 152
My 7 yer old grandson had it a few weeks ago but it only lasted 4 days and he's fine now.
Good for him! Posted by: fluffy at October 24, 2009 12:20 PM (4Kl5M) 153
PS.....This is in Southern California
Posted by: Who Knows at October 24, 2009 12:20 PM (7FgWm) 154
and let's put the lead back in gasoline
Posted by: John ryan at October 24, 2009 12:21 PM (m0Q2u) 155
and when will our military stop believing in it? they are spending billions on the national security implications of climate change. Have they been drinking the Kool Aid also ?
Posted by: John ryan at October 24, 2009 12:22 PM (m0Q2u) 156
Lets put the trans-fats back where they belong too and ban the abomination that is turkey bacon. Posted by: Blazer at October 24, 2009 12:22 PM (+FzLa) 157
I am a retard what does not know that a political establishment controls the military.
Posted by: John Ryan at October 24, 2009 12:24 PM (aVQo/) 158
Well all love bacon. Granted. No question there. But where does another great, fatty, porky, salty treat, pork sausage, fit in?
Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 12:24 PM (B5cM9) 159
nd when will our military stop believing in it? they are spending billions on the national security implications of climate change. Have they been drinking the Kool Aid also ?
Ooo! Ooo! I know! "Appeal to authority", right? Posted by: fluffy at October 24, 2009 12:26 PM (4Kl5M) 160
Never thought I'd see the day when I'd be cheering the Chi-Coms on.
Posted by: Blazer at October 24, 2009 11:06 AM (+FzLa) I've always cheered the chi-coms when they're bringing food to the table. Love me some chinese foods. Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Odd Meteor at October 24, 2009 12:26 PM (erIg9) Posted by: Dang Straights at October 24, 2009 12:27 PM (Dh+s2) 162
But where does another great, fatty, porky, salty treat, pork sausage, fit in?
A) my plate, next to the eggs B) spaghetti sauce C) wrapped in foil or Tupperware, handy for snacking Posted by: fluffy at October 24, 2009 12:27 PM (4Kl5M) 163
John Ryan, please explain how a doubling of CO2 results in a 2.5C degree increase in global temperatures (the conclusion of IPCC AR4).
Posted by: Andy at October 24, 2009 12:28 PM (VMyjP) 164
I made pork sausage gravy poured over buttermilk biscuits this morning. mmmm mmmmm mmm!
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 24, 2009 12:29 PM (+nuCv) 165
158
Well all love bacon. Granted. No question there. But where does
another great, fatty, porky, salty treat, pork sausage, fit in?
Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 12:24 PM (B5cM9) Um, wrapped in the bacons! Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Odd Meteor at October 24, 2009 12:30 PM (erIg9) 166
So, it's bacon AND pork sausage, or mainly still just bacon?
Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 12:31 PM (B5cM9) 167
Bacon AND sausage!
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Odd Meteor at October 24, 2009 12:31 PM (erIg9) 168
It's a pretty sad day when we have to count on the Indians and Red Chinese to help preserver the American Way of Life and American sovereignty.
Thanks Again, You Fracking Moronic 52 Percenters! Posted by: CoolCzech at October 24, 2009 12:32 PM (QECjC) Posted by: Barack Obama at October 24, 2009 12:32 PM (+FzLa) 170
I have no doubt the Obama and his fellow AGW turds would have no problem committing the US to this whether India and China sign on or not.
Posted by: the real joe at October 24, 2009 12:33 PM (t7iqL) 171
167 Bacon AND sausage!
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Odd Meteor at October 24, 2009 12:31 PM (erIg9) Use your imagination, People! Bacon Sausages!!! ...and each link is wrapped in bacon, too. Posted by: CoolCzech at October 24, 2009 12:33 PM (QECjC) 172
Grunt,
sounds awesome, especially compared to my organic 9-grain hot cereal with banannas... I've obviously lived here too long... Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 12:33 PM (B5cM9) 173
Non-scientific poll - anyone here know someone who actually HAS the 'swine flu'?
Posted by: Dang Straights at October 24, 2009 12:14 PM (Dh+s2) Had it. Kinda like a shitty cold. 3 days down, 1 week of fatigue following. Controlling the hobo population again in no time. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 12:34 PM (I30wK) 174
czech, hey I DID say wrap the sausage in the bacons earlier!
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Odd Meteor at October 24, 2009 12:34 PM (erIg9) 175
Green is the new red.
Posted by: MCPO Airdale at October 24, 2009 10:54 AM (UGAk/) No. Red is still Red. Green is just the new proletariat. Posted by: Editor at October 24, 2009 12:34 PM (YX6i/) 176
Preznit Obama just declared the pig flu a national emergency. Let's see what he does now. This should be ___________ . (a) interesting (b) instructive (c) terrifying (d) other (please be specific) Posted by: Tinian at October 24, 2009 12:35 PM (7+pP9) 177
To answer Dang Straight, no, I'm not aware of anyone personally that has it. That being said, there is a very real problem. You have 2 strains of flu out there. And people are getting sick. In fact this mornings headline of my local paper is "Flu Has Medical Centers Dizzy". And remember, this is very early in the season. And I saw recently that the CDC is reporting more cases now then is normal for the WHOLE season. So pretty much bet it's going to get worse. Probably just a matter of time before you either get one or the other, or will know someone who has gotten sick. And it hasn't even really gotten cold yet. Posted by: HH at October 24, 2009 12:35 PM (+jvXp) Posted by: Dang Straights at October 24, 2009 12:35 PM (Dh+s2) 179
It's a pretty sad day when we have to count on the Indians and Red Chinese to help preserver the American Way of Life
Mongolian Beef carryout and clove cigarettes are the American way of life. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 12:35 PM (I30wK) 180
Herr,
Really? I think I just had a strange, bad cold but it was worse than a normal cold. And I'm still a big fatigued... Maybe I had it? What were your symptoms? Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 12:35 PM (B5cM9) 181
Oh, Lord. Really? I'm at work right now and not watching TV.
Posted by: lauraw at October 24, 2009 12:36 PM (hzwWK) 182
172
Grunt,
sounds awesome, especially compared to my organic 9-grain hot cereal with banannas... I've obviously lived here too long...
Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 12:33 PM (B5cM9) Can we have a moment of silence for Greg please... Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Odd Meteor at October 24, 2009 12:36 PM (erIg9) 183
170 I have no doubt the Obama and his fellow AGW turds would have no problem committing the US to this whether India and China sign on or not.
Posted by: the real joe at October 24, 2009 12:33 PM (t7iqL) The hope is that without Chinese and Indian cooperation, the Europeans will either give up on it, OR attempt to "engage" the Chinese and Indians with various bribes in protracted negotiations that go beyond 2010, by which time the American Democrat Workers Party will have taken such a beating at the electoral polls whatever is signed will be dead on arrival. Even fascists want to stay in power, right? Posted by: CoolCzech at October 24, 2009 12:36 PM (QECjC) 184
Preznit Obama just declared the pig flu a national emergency.
Let's see what he does now. This should be ___________ . (a) interesting (b) instructive (c) terrifying (d) other (please be specific) (d) another laughable display of utter incompetence and fuckweaselry Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 12:36 PM (I30wK) Posted by: Blazer at October 24, 2009 12:38 PM (+FzLa) 186
Really? I think I just had a strange, bad cold but
it was worse than a normal cold. And I'm still a big fatigued...
Maybe I had it? What were your symptoms?
Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 12:35 PM (B5cM9) Pretty much the same. Most people have really, really mild symptoms like that. The bugaboo appears to be kids with respiratory conditions and the morbidly obese. Some speculation that people over 40 or so have considerable immunity due to exposure to the '68 Hong Kong flu. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 12:38 PM (I30wK) 187
Can we have a moment of silence for Greg please...
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Odd Meteor at October 24, 2009 12:36 PM (erIg9) Why? He won't be quiet for a moment, IYKWIMAITYD. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 12:39 PM (I30wK) 188
1) Generate or discover a problem 2) Declare crisis 3) Obama to the rescue! 4) Use crisis to redistribute more of our nation's wealth debt. Posted by: Dirty Smelly Gay Pirate Hooker at October 24, 2009 12:39 PM (jVldi) 189
Greg rip a corner off of your man card and say three Hail Bacons in repentance.
Yes, Reverend. In addition, I'm gonna go fry up some pork sausages. Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 12:40 PM (B5cM9) 190
This took place Friday night. That tells me all I need to know.
Posted by: Salem at October 24, 2009 12:41 PM (86rbG) 191
Stop glowball warming!
Convert your SUV to clean low carbon Nuclear power. It can also heat your home when parked in the garage. 45 years between refuelings. Posted by: Kristopher at October 24, 2009 12:42 PM (Jjzb5) Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 12:42 PM (I30wK) 193
Some speculation that people over 40 or so have considerable immunity due to exposure to the '68 Hong Kong flu.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 12:38 PM (I30wK) My mother had the Hong Kong flu when she was pregnant with me in 1970. I wonder if I can have some sort of immunity from it. I have been around several people who have had it and haven't become sick. Or maybe I've just been lucky so far. Posted by: Blazer at October 24, 2009 12:42 PM (+FzLa) 194
My mother had the Hong Kong flu when she was
pregnant with me in 1970. I wonder if I can have some sort of immunity
from it. I have been around several people who have had it and haven't
become sick. Or maybe I've just been lucky so far.
Posted by: Blazer at October 24, 2009 12:42 PM (+FzLa) Me too. Damn you're old. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 12:43 PM (I30wK) 195
OT- Oh, great, ABC radio says Obama declared a "swine flu emergency". 1st of many, many emergencies I'm sure. Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 11:32 AM (B5cM9)
...and so it begins.....................Urkel can go fuck himself.
Posted by: Old Hippie Vet at October 24, 2009 12:43 PM (3IZGh) 196
My mother had the Hong Kong flu when she was pregnant with me in 1970. I wonder if I can have some sort of immunity from it.
No ... you'll just be one of the first folks to auto turn when the Zombie invasion starts. Posted by: Kristopher at October 24, 2009 12:43 PM (Jjzb5) Posted by: Blazer at October 24, 2009 12:44 PM (+FzLa) 198
193 Some speculation that people over 40 or so have considerable immunity due to exposure to the '68 Hong Kong flu.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 12:38 PM (I30wK) You mean watching Hong Kong Fluey on Saturday Morning Television when I was a kid gave me immunity? COOL! Posted by: CoolCzech at October 24, 2009 12:45 PM (QECjC) 199
Me too. Damn you're old. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 12:43 PM (I30wK) Whu ? 28 is not old ! Posted by: Blazer at October 24, 2009 12:45 PM (+FzLa) 200
180 Herr,
Really? I think I just had a strange, bad cold but it was worse than a normal cold. And I'm still a big fatigued... Maybe I had it? What were your symptoms? Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 12:35 PM (B5cM9) And strange dribbling and burning after you pee? Hell, it's just the clap. I always get it from the cute take out girl at the Taco Tote - clears up fine with a big shot of good old Penicillin D. Posted by: TexasJew at October 24, 2009 12:46 PM (S/ijK) 201
hahaha, all those Got Hope? bumper stickers look ironically prescient right now, don't they? Someone should tell all those Obama worshipers to take those stickers off their cars 'cuz it's reminding everyone how shitty Obama is doing. Posted by: Dirty Smelly Gay Pirate Hooker at October 24, 2009 12:46 PM (jVldi) 202
I think I just had a strange, bad cold but it was worse than a normal cold. And I'm still a big fatigued... Maybe I had it? What were your symptoms? Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 12:35 PM (B5cM9) I had a fever of nearly 102. The highest fever I ever get with a cold -- even a really bad one -- is 99. Plus, I had the chills and when I first came down with it I would feel like puking when I had a coughing fit. I also had diarrhea (another symptom) but that might have been from all of the liquids I consumed. It's not as bad as the flus I had as a kid (put a garbage can by the bed for all of the vomit, extreme sweats and chills) but it's enough to set you back a few days.What concerned me is that I'm living with my 86 year-old Dad who has copd. It would probably put him in the hospital. Posted by: Tinian at October 24, 2009 12:46 PM (7+pP9) 203
New models are being worked out right now. They will generate the new memes. Sunspot activity will be included as well as the behavior of China and India compared to the rest of the World.
My guess is the new meme will be AGW prevention and reversal can work without China and India pitching in as long as the West takes advantage of this helpful (but minor!) Solar assistance. Posted by: eman at October 24, 2009 12:50 PM (rCAai) 204
Whu ? 28 is not old !
Posted by: Blazer at October 24, 2009 12:45 PM (+FzLa) Please. You have venereal diseases older than that. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 12:50 PM (I30wK) 205
d) lame and useless: Here in the DC metro area there seems to be more than enough vaccine in DC where people are not lining up to get it and NONE in the suburbs where people want it. So the darker corners are getting the vaccine but the lighter ones are not. Posted by: Dagny at October 24, 2009 12:51 PM (oWLkz) 206
And here's your douchebag-bumper-sticker of the day: Human Kind Be Both Never fails. Every time I drive through Cambridge I see a new stupid bumper sticker telling others how to think or what to do. Posted by: Dirty Smelly Gay Pirate Hooker at October 24, 2009 12:51 PM (jVldi) 207
we should give credit where credit is due, as explained by the British guest at Glenn Beck last night, the whole global warming scam was the work of one Maurice Strong, former number II to Kofe Annan at the UN. Strong is the ultimate unelected elite, a real powerbroker behind the scenes and a firm believer in global governance and wealth distribution (from the developed nations to the undeveloped nations of course and with him getting a piece of the action along the way). Al Gore, as always, is just the dope fronting the scam. Posted by: canuk at October 24, 2009 12:53 PM (vPj5M) Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 12:53 PM (B5cM9) Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 12:53 PM (I30wK) 210
Every time I drive through Cambridge I see a new stupid bumper sticker telling others how to think or what to do.
You are also in the counter revolution here in the People's Republic of Taxachusetts? I spend my sales tax dollars in Nashua, personally. Posted by: fluffy at October 24, 2009 12:54 PM (4Kl5M) 211
Maybe they are going to change the name of it to "Fox Flu".
Posted by: TexasJew at October 24, 2009 12:55 PM (S/ijK) Posted by: TexasJew at October 24, 2009 12:56 PM (S/ijK) Posted by: Dirty Smelly Gay Pirate Hooker at October 24, 2009 12:56 PM (jVldi) 214
I am totally committed to the war in Foxaghanistan. Posted by: Barack Obama at October 24, 2009 12:57 PM (+FzLa) 215
oh, and what a strange coincidence: I named my penis Lord Monckton. And believe it or not, I too have said many times, "Good news, Lord Monckton!" Posted by: Dirty Smelly Gay Pirate Hooker at October 24, 2009 12:59 PM (jVldi) 216
Eat Shit And Die Would look great on my Hummer.
Posted by: TexasJew at October 24, 2009 12:56 PM (S/ijK) It's Cambridge. Caprophagia et Decessus Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 01:00 PM (I30wK) 217
I think it was Mrs.Paul's Fish Sticks who posts here, who had a relative pass away from swine flu, back a month or more ago. It is the folks with the pre-existing conditions that are most at risk. In my area, the swine flu strain makes up 90% of flu cases, versus the regular strain (which my child was already inoculated against) and they are not doing any tests to determine what type flu a patient has, they assume it is the swine flu now. Posted by: Who Knows at October 24, 2009 01:00 PM (7FgWm) 218
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Here's why China objects to the climate change treaty:
http://www.chinahush.com/2009/10/21/amazing-pictures-pollution-in-china/ Three thoughts: 1. This is communism at its finest. These people cannot/could not speak out and petition their government to stop this madness. 2. They WILL overrun our country at the first opportunity to escape the disaster they have created in their own country. 3. rinse and repeat #1. Posted by: Derak at October 24, 2009 01:00 PM (hVYde) 219
Shit. That said Goat Eating and Death. Not exactly the message I wished to convey.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 01:01 PM (I30wK) 220
There are ways around the treaty's Senate ratification.
A bill funding an "international carbon board" goes through under radar, could even be diverted from UN dues we already pay. EPA (wrongly) has authority to regulate CO2. Executive order, or Obama's pet EPA director, issue regs through the Code of Federal Regulations, not the legislative process, to get us on same sheet of music as the international carbon board. Obama's "wise Latina" and other leftists on the Supreme Court declare this legal ?????? Profit for someone other than us. Posted by: SGT Dan at October 24, 2009 01:03 PM (vez/B) 221
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 01:01 PM (I30wK) I'll mail you my old Wheelock's. Posted by: TexasJew at October 24, 2009 01:03 PM (S/ijK) 222
Fox news is saying that the feds now have broad new powers for this emergencies. They could even send doctors to other states, and control the distribution of vaccine.
Hmmmmm... Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 24, 2009 01:04 PM (B5cM9) Posted by: Who Knows at October 24, 2009 01:04 PM (7FgWm) Posted by: Dang Straights at October 24, 2009 01:06 PM (Dh+s2) 225
Not again....
Posted by: The Goat at October 24, 2009 01:07 PM (I30wK) 226
Keep fucking that goat, Herr.
Posted by: Dang Straights at October 24, 2009 01:06 PM (Dh+s2) I'll even try the doe this time. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 01:08 PM (I30wK) 227
Months ago, Dick Armey said that the squishy "bed wetters" would get railroaded into voting for Obamacare by some trumped up nonsense about the Swine Flu.
Posted by: TexasJew at October 24, 2009 01:08 PM (S/ijK) 228
Herr, and dead mallards?
Posted by: Editor at October 24, 2009 01:09 PM (YX6i/) 229
uh, ANY dead mallards?
Posted by: Editor at October 24, 2009 01:11 PM (YX6i/) 230
227 Never let an emergency go to waste.
Posted by: Dagny at October 24, 2009 01:11 PM (oWLkz) 231
Herr, and dead mallards?
Posted by: Editor at October 24, 2009 01:09 PM (YX6i/) Nada. Stayed home. The end result would have been "Herr Flotsam". That little river gets shitty when it comes up. I just read the Constiution and the Executive Powers section don't say shit about the flu, or anything resembling it. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 01:11 PM (I30wK) Posted by: Andy at October 24, 2009 01:11 PM (VMyjP) Posted by: Dang Straights at October 24, 2009 01:12 PM (Dh+s2) 234
Hey, perverts - can't a guy make some coffee in privacy?!
Posted by: Dude Making Coffee at October 24, 2009 01:14 PM (YX6i/) 235
234
Hey, perverts - can't a guy make some coffee in privacy with his privates?!
Posted by: Dude Making Coffee at October 24, 2009 01:14 PM (YX6i/) FIFY Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Odd Meteor at October 24, 2009 01:15 PM (erIg9) 236
Hey, perverts - can't a guy make some coffee in privacy with his privates?!
No. You're thinking of tea. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 24, 2009 01:16 PM (I30wK) 237
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