Your Head-Pat Media At Work: Gloria Borger Goes in for Special Two-and-a-Half Hour Meeting With Obama, Types Up His Talking Points, Presents It As "Analysis"
A clatch of super-liberal commentators met with Obama. Olbermann, Maddow, Dowd, Gwen Ifil, Eugene Robinson.And Gloria Borger.
Needless to say, The One’s entitled to talk to whomever he wants, but playing pattycake with MSNBC’s primetime stars does further raise the question of why Beck and Hannity are problematic “opinion” shows while Olbermann and Maddow aren’t. And yes, that question is entirely rhetorical.Well. Look what Borger came out of that Monday meeting with. (Link Fixed.)
Borger: Republicans snipe instead of offering solutionsSo far we already have a strong echo of Obama's "mop" speech.
She says Republicans have gained politically from opposing presidentAnd she just met with Obama, dictaphone at the ready. They don't mention that.
Gloria Borger says Republicans complain about Obama as they look for ways to avoid responsibility. (CNN) -- Every president believes, upon election, that his term of service will be transformative. Some, like Barack Obama, actually campaign on the idea: that his brand of leadership and force of personality are so persuasive that they will change the way the world (aka Washington) does business. "We are the hope for the future," the candidate told a crowd before his huge wins on Super Tuesday last year. "[We are] the answer to the cynics who tell us our house must stand divided." How has that worked out for the new president? No Republican votes in the House on the economic stimulus package; a handful in the Senate. No real help in the House on health care reform; a single GOP vote, so far, in the Senate. On Afghanistan, GOP applause when he sent more than 20,000 troops at the beginning of his term. Now, Republican predictions of outright catastrophe if the president doesn't send 40,000 more ASAP. The math is a simple GOP political calculation: The economy? Obama owns it. Afghanistan? It's his war. ... Sure, some GOPers complain that Obama let the liberals hijack his agenda -- and, in some instances, they're right. But mostly, their arguments have just been a rationale as they look for ways to leave no fingerprints. It's always easier to run to the hills and shout "no" from safe terrain. Republicans have predictably gained some political traction with their "he's-a-big-spending-liberal" Obama narrative. And there's no doubt that House Democrats from moderate districts are increasingly at risk, given the burgeoning deficit. Sill, Republicans haven't exactly been reborn, either. Consider this: A new Washington Post/ABC news poll Tuesday reports that only 20 percent of Americans now consider themselves Republicans -- the lowest number in 26 years. That's not exactly a national vote of confidence.What has that to do with her thesis, here? Note she calls it "predictable" that Republicans have had some traction calling Obama a tax-and-spend liberal -- as if we're merely calling him that, but he isn't guilty of the charge. And then she notes the deficit. In two words. Count 'em: "Burgeoning. Deficit." And where you'd expect she'd now rebut those charges -- given that she's not willing to credit them with any substantive validity whatsoever -- her rebuttal comes in the form of repeating the WaPo silliness about only 20% of the public identifying as Republicans. What does a party's relative popularity have to do with the validity of the charges it's making?
So now comes the tipping point. It's almost one year, and Obama's economic plan has been hatched. The result? While Wall Street and some banks are coming back, the jobs and home loans are not. It's trouble for the Democrats. As for health care and Afghanistan, more trouble ahead. Assuming the president gets some kind of reform by Christmas, it won't be everything he wanted, but it will be more than enough fodder for Republicans to rip apart, piece by piece. For deficit hawks, it will inevitably cost too much. For seniors, there will be complaints it will raise Medicare costs. And on and on. Afghanistan is another conundrum preoccupying the president. Send more troops, and liberal Democrats are horrified. Send fewer than 40,000 troops for at least $40 billion -- as requested by the generals -- and Republicans will tag Obama as a weak commander in chief. (Some of these are the same Republicans, by the way, who don't want to add a penny to the deficit.)Why is only the "horrified" reaction of liberals' legitimate? She mentions that as if that political calculus is perfectly relevant here. But then she immediately demeans Republicans for tagging Obama as a "weak commander in chief" if Obama balks at doing what is necessary to win a war. Republicans are dicks for wanting to win a war. (And hypocritical, too!) But, on the other hand, liberal senators would be "horrified" if we tried to win the war, so, you know, liberals have the edge here.
The problem set is enormous: How to set a broken economy on a path of growth while fixing high unemployment.The solution, on the other hand, was simple: All we had to do was pass Obama's spendulus, and we were promised this "enormous" problem set would go away. Oh? What's that? Now it's much more complicated than that? Oh. Well. Gee, I guess it's the Republicans' fault Obama had to promise his Spendulus would keep the unemployment rate below 8%.
How to fix a broken health care system with 46 million uninsured.Off-message, Gloria. Even NPR is sending around memos telling their reporters not to claim 46 million, as that figure includes illegal aliens, and the Democrats are now pretending they won't insure illegal aliens. 30 million, Gloria. 30 million. Oh well I guess Obama slipped and said "46 million" again.
How to fix a war in which it may already be too late to succeed.Um, the Republicans have a plan -- it's McChrystal's plan, put forward by the man Obama hand-picked for the task. So this seems to go against your general thesis that all Republicans do is say "No."
Sad how the calculations work, though. The more complex the political problems, the more simple the opposition math: If it's tough, disappear.Again, Republicans are urging Obama to follow McChrystal's recommendations. The fact that this "horrifies" liberals does not change that fact. Obama finds anything he doesn't want to, or can't, handle (a list of things that grows on a daily basis) too "complicated" to solve.
That may work for now and the midterm elections. But when it's time to challenge Obama, there's more simple arithmetic to consider: It's hard to beat something with nothing.Obama whines about FoxNews' "biased" coverage, and the media say nothing, as the rest of the media knows they offer this kind of biased, partisan "analysis" every single day. Every. Single. Day. Borger's piece isn't particularly remarkable, except for the suggestive timing of it coming out right after her chat with Obama, in which he surely whined about every Republican who won't "help him with the mopping." The Head-Pat Media puts this crap out there every day. And then they have the gall to call FoxNews partisan? It only seems partisan to them because it's the opposite of the partisan messaging they engage in every single day. When Obama and his Liberal Spirit Squad talk about Republicans "offering solutions," what they really mean is "Republicans should offer their votes." Because that's what is wanted -- votes. Not input, not constructive criticism, just the rubber stamp of their votes. And, of course, Borger goes through this whole essay without noting that Democrats have supermajorities in both houses of Congress and don't need a single Republican vote to pass anything they want, including defeating any and all filibusters. But Democrats won't pass this. Thus the need for Republican votes. And just the votes, thank you -- Democrats want their at-risk members to be able to vote against this horror so that they can get re-elected. They want Republicans to vote for this obscenity so that they don't have to. Republicans do have ideas about health care. Obama just isn't interested in listening. Last month, he promised in his big prime-time speech that he would take a look at tort reform and including that in the bill. How's that "taking a look" coming, Sport? I have not heard a single peep from the White House or any Democrat about how this "taking a look" is progressing. But, you know: Republicans are intransigent and can only say "no." Obama, on the other hand, is willing to "take a look" at Republican solutions like tort reform. And he'll keep looking and looking and looking, just like he's looking and looking and looking into the McChrystal report. Thanks to AHFF Geoff.
1 This has nothing to do with Dede Scuzzleface.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 21, 2009 05:51 PM (RgXpA)
2 This commentary approved by Obama.
Posted by: lorien1973 at October 21, 2009 05:52 PM (IhQuA)
3 Where is Helen Thomas?
Posted by: George Orwell at October 21, 2009 05:52 PM (AZGON)
4 0bama is "looking" at tort reform like O.J. is "looking" for the real killers.
Posted by: logprof at October 21, 2009 05:52 PM (I3Udb)
5 Bend over and I'll give you a taste of my mop handle.
Posted by: Max Power at October 21, 2009 05:53 PM (q177U)
6 I was told there would be lesbian pr0n pix of Helen Thomas and Dede Scozzaflava. Posted four times.
Posted by: George Orwell at October 21, 2009 05:53 PM (AZGON)
7 Is that Gloria Borger or Booger. I thought I heard Booger.
Posted by: The cast of The Nerds. at October 21, 2009 05:53 PM (nxUYP)
8 If we can comment on Borger's piece at CNN, link it.
Posted by: Dr. Spank at October 21, 2009 05:54 PM (TZazt)
Posted by: sTevo at October 21, 2009 05:55 PM (eA3tl)
10 Maybe this is the real reason that Liberal women journalists hate Palin. They are stuck being a cheap nickle whore to the president while Palin took her journalist degree and actually made something of herself (and is a good mother and good looker).
Posted by: Just Another Poster at October 21, 2009 05:55 PM (NgoAe)
11 mmmmff. . . .mmfllfffmff. . . . mmmhhmhmhh.. mmulmmhhff
Posted by: fellating media at October 21, 2009 05:55 PM (p1s9n)
12 Breaking on Drudge: Obama's Fascist America Pretty Much Just a Run of The Mill Fucking of Capitalism.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 21, 2009 05:56 PM (RgXpA)
13 Whenever I talk to the President, all I hear is "boy". Damn Rethuglicans.
Posted by: Maureen Dowd at October 21, 2009 05:56 PM (nxUYP)
14 What a stupid Libtard. You almost have to feel sorry for them, but brutally kicking their asses would just feel better.
Posted by: TexasJew at October 21, 2009 05:57 PM (/gM1/)
15 "Never underestimate the power of Human stupidity."
Posted by: mojo at October 21, 2009 05:57 PM (g1cNf)
Why hasn't Wee Wee been on television the last couple of weeks? I guess they realized every time he demanded airtime his numbers tanked. Wonder how long this "fox is the EEEVIL!" b.s. is going to go on before they realize it's a loser.
Posted by: Dang Straights at October 21, 2009 05:57 PM (Haq+B)
17 What's remarkable about this blinkered bullcrap Borger writes is the unspoken article of faith that the gubmint can "set a broken economy on a path of growth while fixing high
unemployment..." or "...fix a broken health care system with 46 million
Newsflash, you 'tard. Gubmint can only make it worse, the more you get it involved.
Posted by: George Orwell at October 21, 2009 05:57 PM (AZGON)
18 Dr. Spank at October 21, 2009 05:54 PM (TZazt)
Yep. Definitely needs commenting.
Posted by: lorien1973 at October 21, 2009 05:58 PM (IhQuA)
19 Always make sure you wipe your chin and cheek when you are finished CNN and MSNBC.
Posted by: Samuel Adams at October 21, 2009 05:58 PM (nxUYP)
20 It sucks for Obama that he's President while the Republicans have overwhelming majorities in both houses of Congress.
If only the Democrats has a huge House majority and filibuster proof majority in the Senate, he could really get something done.
Wait a second.
Posted by: DrewM. at October 21, 2009 05:59 PM (ur6Ar)
21 Just curious what the proper white house press protocol is for this sort of thing. Is it spit or swallow?
Posted by: Just Another Poster at October 21, 2009 06:00 PM (NgoAe)
22 My protege is shaping up well. He is destroying the United States so fast that my eyes well up with tears of joy.
Posted by: Grumpy Old Carter at October 21, 2009 06:00 PM (4FkTt)
23 11 mmmmff. . . .mmfllfffmff. . . . mmmhhmhmhh.. mmulmmhhff
When Obama gave them each a grade, I'll bet Dowd came in last. Just a hunch.
Posted by: sherlock at October 21, 2009 06:02 PM (G9/8V)
24 21 Just curious what the proper white house press protocol is for this sort of thing. Is it spit or swallow?
Posted by: Just Another Poster at October 21, 2009 06:00 PM (NgoAe)
Gibbs said that they better swallow, or the White House will not consider them a news source anymore.
Posted by: Samuel Adams at October 21, 2009 06:03 PM (nxUYP)
25 Hilarious! This is called Propaganda.
I am waiting for the WH announcement of who will be named the new Goebbels Memorial Ministry of Propaganda.
Who ever doesn't "spit" right?
Posted by: newguy40 at October 21, 2009 06:03 PM (kduZC)
26 If Obama knew the job was so tough, he probably wouldn't have taken the job.
Posted by: toby928 at October 21, 2009 06:04 PM (PD1tk)
27 7 Is that Gloria Borger or Booger. I thought I heard Booger.
7 Is that Gloria Borger or Booger. I thought I heard Booger.
I guess the second post on this is about 30seconds away, 28, 29 .....
Posted by: Kemp at October 21, 2009 06:04 PM (2+9Yx)
28 Obama a tax-and-spend liberal
You mean like Reagan and the two Bushs?
It's impressive how much traction that old lie "tax-and-spend liberal" gets.
Posted by: Tiny Tim at October 21, 2009 06:05 PM (Ogqm2)
29 "It's impressive how much traction that old lie "tax-and-spend liberal" gets."
Posted by: Grumpy Old Carter at October 21, 2009 06:06 PM (4FkTt)
30 Tiny Tim, you ass is dead, don't be bringing no zombie shit to this blog.
Posted by: Kemp at October 21, 2009 06:06 PM (2+9Yx)
31 I love the term Head Pat Media, it really sums up the arrogance behind much of the MSM.
Posted by: alexthechick at October 21, 2009 06:07 PM (Q9bx2)
32 These spunkguzzler leftards have no excuses. They own both Houses and the White House. They can do as they please if they apply discipline. The only purpose of whining about the GOP is to maintain the fiction that this is not a one-party State under inflexible left-wing rule.
Posted by: George Orwell at October 21, 2009 06:07 PM (AZGON)
33 OT -- this was just on Fox, Reid is blaming the AMA for coming up short because they said that there were 27 Republicans willing to vote yes on the "doctor fox" bill.
Is this beyond parody? he is blaming the AMA and the Republicans because his supermajority still cant pass a bill. wtf?
Posted by: jcp at October 21, 2009 06:07 PM (DHNp4)
34 With great power, comes great responsibility photo-ops.
Posted by: Uncle Ben at October 21, 2009 06:07 PM (f4sLg)
35 30 Tiny Tim, you ass is dead, don't be bringing no zombie shit to this blog.
Posted by: Kemp at October 21, 2009 06:06 PM (2+9Yx)
That's his son, "tiny dick tim".
Posted by: Samuel Adams at October 21, 2009 06:08 PM (nxUYP)
36 Bet all of them received a signed white house mop
Posted by: paranoid polly at October 21, 2009 06:08 PM (r7Vc3)
37 I think the story would sink in if it were posted a couple more times.
Posted by: Dr. Spank at October 21, 2009 06:08 PM (TZazt)
38 I feel we are really f$%'d. This is disgusting.
Posted by: ParisParamus at October 21, 2009 06:09 PM (IbsoQ)
If we can comment on Borger's piece at CNN, link it.
CNN has never approved any of my comments. They'll let a couple of us Rethuglicans through, just to show that they aren't biased or anything of course, but if you're not willing to pucker up and give Obama the ass kissing CNN wants given, you probably won't get through.
Posted by: koopy at October 21, 2009 06:09 PM (+ckmu)
40 The only person to come out of that one without a stained dress was Maddow.
Posted by: Steve at October 21, 2009 06:10 PM (RJEMe)
41 Note to Harry Reid's physicians: use those large gauge needles after you dunk them in the toilet for a while.
It's not smart to fuck with the docs..
Posted by: TexasJew at October 21, 2009 06:10 PM (/gM1/)
42 I do have to give ace credit, he takes his lumps when he FUBARs and doesn't try to hide or delete any embarrassing posts and comments unlike some other bloggers.
Posted by: Just Another Poster at October 21, 2009 06:10 PM (NgoAe)
43 If Obama knew the job was so tough, he probably wouldn't have taken the job.
He enjoys being a wrecking ball.
Posted by: Cincinnatus at October 21, 2009 06:11 PM (f4sLg)
44 >>>Ace, you should cover that Scozzaflava story.
Fill me in and I will.
Posted by: ace at October 21, 2009 06:12 PM (2lEFM)
45 "If Obama knew the job was so tough, he probably wouldn't have taken the job.
He enjoys being a wrecking ball."
He also enjoys all the free shit at the taxpayers expense. The way he is spending money on his family and lavish parties is another item if ever exposed that would really cause an uprising.
Posted by: Just Another Poster at October 21, 2009 06:13 PM (NgoAe)
46 Republicans? Jesus Christ on nuclear pogo stick. You own this mess now. Lead or get the fuck out of the way already. My kids took more responsibility when they were 8 years old. Time is running out.
Posted by: fireman1 at October 21, 2009 06:14 PM (LL/pP)
47 O/T: Brett Baier talking about the administration attacks on Fox news, the Chamber of Commerce and the insurance industry. Almost as though they are attacking mom's apple pie.
Posted by: curious at October 21, 2009 06:14 PM (p302b)
Feels like we have popular seventh-graders runningthis administration. They'retrying to put Fox in with the nerd group.
Posted by: Free Association Guy (rdb) at October 21, 2009 06:13 PM (QNKb3)"hey, it's the "intelligent nerd group" and I was a proud member. It leads right to the ivy league. And don't believe that stuff about the C students ruling the world
Posted by: hillary at October 21, 2009 06:16 PM (p302b)
Republicans do have ideas about health careYou
mean to continue to subsidize insurance oligopolies? You mean to deny
epileptics coverage so that they have to go on medicaid and never work
because if they do they'll lose medicaid?Sweeeeet.
We want epileptics killed. Idiot.
Posted by: Dr. Spank at October 21, 2009 06:16 PM (TZazt)
50 "You mean to continue to subsidize insurance oligopolies? You mean to
deny epileptics coverage so that they have to go on medicaid and never
work because if they do they'll lose medicaid?
Here we go again, I want evidence of this story for one. Then I then want evidence on how Republicans have caused this person to not have a job and stay on medicaid. I also want an explanation on how Republican plans will cause the situation you outlined above. You are not just going to drive by with an unsubstantiated talking point and get away with it. Lets hear the evidence or withdraw the comment.
Posted by: Just Another Poster at October 21, 2009 06:16 PM (NgoAe)
51 We want epileptics killed
I just want their tonsils.
Posted by: shady surgeon at October 21, 2009 06:17 PM (PD1tk)
52 Ace, who is (Ogqm2), really?
Posted by: Dr. Spank at October 21, 2009 06:17 PM (TZazt)
53 "Republicans? Jesus Christ on nuclear pogo stick. You own this mess now. Lead or get the fuck out of the way already. My kids took more responsibility when they were 8 years old. Time is running out."
Preach it Reverend Wright!
Posted by: Grumpy Old Carter at October 21, 2009 06:17 PM (4FkTt)
54 Oil bounced up around $82 today.
We oil guys will be on Obama's daily shit list now.
Hope the little prick can push his limousine.
Posted by: TexasJew at October 21, 2009 06:18 PM (/gM1/)
55 IMPORTANT UPDATE: you can tell by the caps:
Cheney to blast Obama on Afgan war plan that they gave him and Obama claimed was his strategy in March. Get this: Obama asked the previous administration to keep it secret that they gave it to him, they agreed, and then Obama claimed it as his own. Then with Obama blaming them for Afgan mess, Cheney is pissed.
This should get interesting.
Posted by: Dont mess with the Dick at October 21, 2009 06:18 PM (FhPAC)
56 OT: More Bret Baier: He did a story on a speech Cheney is giving tonight in which he unloads on Obama. Again. Transcript at Fox/Special Report.
Posted by: Retread at October 21, 2009 06:20 PM (7QeEH)
57 Posted by: Wallace Stevens at October 21, 2009 06:15 PM (Ogqm2)
Gloria, you slut.
Posted by: TexasJew at October 21, 2009 06:21 PM (/gM1/)
58 I am surprised by the ineptitude of this administration. They make nothing but missteps. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, yet this incomeptent rookie and his team of Marxists hasmadea nine-month string of follies.
Healthcare Reform = FailOlympics = FailStimulus Effectiveness= FailJob Creation = FailAttacking Fox = FailWorld Apology Tour = FailForeign Appeasement = FailCash for Clunkers = FailRescue of GM = FailReform of Wall Street = FailPromises of Openness and Transperancy = FailFly Over Photo Op = FailSteady march towards Communism = Work in Progress
Posted by: California Red at October 21, 2009 06:21 PM (7uWb8)
59 FIGHT you metrosexual jugeared pussy!
Posted by: Dick Cheney's Mighty Warcock at October 21, 2009 06:22 PM (5iQTe)
60 Wallace, do you have a cite for any of your drivel, or an explanation of what it has to do with MSNBC's public Obama blow job?
Posted by: Methos at October 21, 2009 06:22 PM (mEJRc)
61 PS - I seem to remember a story where an Iraq official claimed during the campaign when Obama went over there that O wanted Iraq to delay the partial withdraw of US troops until he was inagurated.
What a slime.
Posted by: Dont mess with the Dick at October 21, 2009 06:23 PM (FhPAC)
Well, he did order that one Somalie bombed rather than arrested. And Bo seems like a good dog.
Posted by: Methos at October 21, 2009 06:24 PM (mEJRc)
63 WELL I SURE HOPE THAT GLORIA GOT MORE THAN A 'HEAD PAT' FOR THAT PIECE.
Posted by: GarandFan at October 21, 2009 06:24 PM (ZQBnQ)
64 60-40 advantage in the Senate. An 80+ advantage in the House. All,excepting FNC and right wing radio, media pulling the One's sled. I can understand why Obama wants to talk about FNC and the Republicans. But the media?
I also like the 'Republicans can't win just by pointing at the Dems' line. She's apparently unaware of the results of the last two elections and the One's continuing to blame any and all of his troubles on Bush.
Posted by: EBJ at October 21, 2009 06:25 PM (ocHBO)
65 Wallace could you point to the paragraph in ace's post that referred to epilepsy?
Posted by: Methos at October 21, 2009 06:26 PM (mEJRc)
66 Ace, who is (Ogqm2), really?
It's a long-time liberal troll who first showed up here as "erg", got banned a number of times, but now comes on with a new nom de sockpuppect every time he posts. His hash changes periodically, too, which is why he always shows up again after being banned.
Posted by: OregonMuse at October 21, 2009 06:26 PM (eR37w)
67 Words can't express how much I despise the mainstream media. They are criminally negligent in performing their job.
I actually have more respect for whatPravda and Isvestia and Tass did in the Soviet Union. They had to do what they were doing or it was a bullet in the back of the head or the gulag.
Our fucking darlings are fellating Obama because they like to.
Posted by: LGoPs at October 21, 2009 06:26 PM (4x8W0)
68 So when the MSM gets off message, does the White House tell them "Watch the teeth"? 'Cause that right there can ruin the whole experience.
Posted by: Contessa at October 21, 2009 06:28 PM (pZEar)
69 Wallace, you have not given a specific example of someone forced on medicare and unable to get a job since they would lose their benefits. You have also not provided a single example of why this is the fault of Republicans. Please try again, your link does not support your original statement in any way.
Posted by: Just Another Poster at October 21, 2009 06:32 PM (NgoAe)
70 Assuming the president gets some kind of reform by Christmas,
Don't you mean, "Winter holiday," you Christianist bitch?
Posted by: Jarles Chonson at October 21, 2009 06:33 PM (2qU2d)
71 You're probably right that "solutions" is just liberal code for "vote for whatever the Dems want." But if we take the statement at face value, she's right. We need solutions. We really have reached a tipping point. The President's unpopular, the Dems are unpopular, their initiatives are failing.
But you know what my mother said to me recently? A lifelong conservative who has always valued hard work and personal responsibility, she told me she wanted government health care because nothing else is working. She can't afford health insurance. And she's right that costs have spiraled out of control. She's seen years and years of Republican control and nobody fixing the problem.
People want us to DO something. I'm not saying to abandon our values as conservatives and start throwing big government at the problem. But we do need a new Contract with America. And at the very top of the list, before tax cuts, winning the war in Afghanistan, holding the second half of the stimulus, and cutting social programs to start paying the debt, before all of that, needs to be health care. What should our plan be? I'm partial to deregulation of the market and buying insurance across state borders, but there are plenty of plans that are consistent with conservative philosophy but tell the American people we're doing something.
The tactic so far of letting the Dems perform slow-motion hari-kari has worked perfectly. But we are now at the tipping point. It's time to offer real alternatives and real solutions and return real conservatism (not Republicanism...conservatism) to office.
Posted by: MikeJ at October 21, 2009 06:33 PM (gdZAF)
72 I think its about time we saw those college transcripts for O, because he can't even plagiarize correctly.
Posted by: speki da english? at October 21, 2009 06:34 PM (FhPAC)
73 "Ace. You're a pussy.
Posted by: Wallace Stevens at October 21, 2009 06:28 PM (Ogqm2)
I love flicking yours. Yum Yum.
Posted by: Grumpy Old Carter at October 21, 2009 06:34 PM (4FkTt)
74 Holy shit. It's almost as if the political party that overwhelmingly won the 2008 elections actually has to take responsibility and do things. How can that ever, ever work?
Posted by: andycanuck at October 21, 2009 06:35 PM (2qU2d)
75 One more time:
The Democrats own the White House and both houses of Congress by a substantial majority. All they have to do to pass any legislation they like is to simply agree with each other.
Blaming the Republicans for ANY Obama policy troubles or failure is disingenuous.
But the Whiner-in-chief knows no other way than to blame others.
Blame Bush, blame the Republicans, anything at all to cover up his lack of leadership and inability to persuade the American public that his socialist agenda is a good one.
Posted by: looking closely at October 21, 2009 06:37 PM (KNy97)
76 Ace, your very first link does not work
Posted by: Thea at October 21, 2009 06:39 PM (tUbKc)
77 ergies got nuthin'
Posted by: toby928 at October 21, 2009 06:39 PM (PD1tk)
78 That may work for now and the midterm elections. But when it's time to challenge Obama, there's more simple arithmetic to consider: It's hard to beat something with nothing.
Well Borger-baby, that precise strategy worked like a charm for the Democrats in 2006, no? I mean, what did the Democrats offer other than "We're not George Bush"?
And they went from a weak minority to a supermajority in 2 election cycles with just that same level of "nothing".
Welcome to the corner of Pay and Back.
Posted by: DocJ at October 21, 2009 06:39 PM (AWzOz)
79 Republicans don't need to help - there are already plenty of Democratic janitors on the job. The problemis they are just standing around, leaning on their mops, starring at the problem, complaining that the spill is bigger than they thought, or too hard to clean up, or it not their fault, or they don't want to get their mops dirty, or someone might have wanted the mess that way and who are they to touch it, or they need to hire someone a specialistto clean it up, or...
It's like dealing with a Union shop.
Once again - repubs have zero power. None zip zero. The president. The congress. The courts. The media. All Dems.
The problem is that the public doesn't want what they want. They know it. If they solve the problem the way they want (and the only way they can conceive of solving it) then they will lose their offices. It is a paralyzing dilemma. So they stand around and wait for events to force some action.
Obama is a dunce by the way. He should have had the Repubs draft all the fixit legislation, and peeled off enough Dems to make a majority and pass the thing. That was how Clinton did it.
The president isan't a Dem or a Repub. He is a party of his own, and the more he slavishly follows the party that elected him, the less he'll ultimately accomplish. Obama doesn't get this - he still thinks he is in the senate, or worse yet the Harvard debate society, the first amoung equals.
Posted by: Geoman at October 21, 2009 06:41 PM (1vG6v)
80 Wallace, I've nicely asked twice for evidence and all you have done is thrown around insults, can I assume that you do not have the required evidence then? I mean if its that obvious that Republicans have kicked people with epilepsy to the curve then you should have a thousand sources ready to show that.
As a Concerned Moderate I am really souring on the Obama agenda. His supporters just seem to make baseless accusations and spew hate and I don't think I want to be associated with that.
Posted by: Just Another Poster at October 21, 2009 06:42 PM (NgoAe)
81 Rev. Wright? ya lost me.
Posted by: fireman1 at October 21, 2009 06:42 PM (LL/pP)
82 The real Wallace Stevens had words for our own "Wallace Stevens":
The old brown hen and the old blue sky,Between the two we live and die--The broken cartwheel on the hill.As if, in the presence of the sea,We dried our nets and mended sailAnd talked of never-ending things,Of the never-ending storm of will,One will and many wills, and the wind,Of many meanings in the leaves,Brought down to one below the eaves,Link, of that tempest, to the farm,The chain of the turquoise hen and skyAnd the wheel that broke as the cart went by.It is not a voice that is under the eaves.It is not speech, the sound we hearIn this conversation, but the soundOf things and their motion: the other man,A turquoise monster moving round.
-- "Continual Conversation With A Silent Man"
Posted by: Monty at October 21, 2009 06:42 PM (nTxjg)
83 >>That may work for now and the midterm elections. But when it's time to
challenge Obama, there's more simple arithmetic to consider: It's hard
to beat something with nothing.
No, its actually quite simple. Obama did it.
Forget that fact that Obama hasn't even finished ONE YEAR in office, and this hack is already talking about re-election.
Given that our whiner-in-chief has still done nothing (other than blow most of his political capital wasting gigantic sums of the public's money) its not like anyone running against him would be running against "something".
Posted by: looking closely at October 21, 2009 06:42 PM (KNy97)
84 "Editor's note: Gloria Borger is a senior political analyst for CNN,
appearing regularly on CNN's "The Situation Room," "Campbell Brown,"
"AC360°" and "State of the Union With John King," as well as during
special event coverage."
I've not heard of a one of those shows. meh
Posted by: jukin at October 21, 2009 06:44 PM (vkkNZ)
85 We'd be a lot worse off without it.
Sez you, libtard.
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86 Just google "epilepsy indigence" fuckhead.
Can we track this asshole down and beat the stuffing out of him?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 21, 2009 06:45 PM (ujg0T)
87 where the hell did I put that fiddle?
Posted by: Caesar Zero at October 21, 2009 06:47 PM (5iQTe)
88 Dontch love the names? Weren't the Borgers a notorious family at some point in history?
Posted by: joe at October 21, 2009 06:47 PM (p302b)
89 I cannot beleive this isactually happening in America, and the MSM is so fucking a part of this it makes me sick
Posted by: Todd at October 21, 2009 06:48 PM (LLOGQ)
90 Dontch love the names? Weren't the Borgers a notorious family at some point in history?
It was the Borgias. You're thinking of the Borgia family.
Posted by: OregonMuse at October 21, 2009 06:53 PM (eR37w)
91 I wonder if she wiped the shit off her tongue and the semen off her lip before she orgasmically typed those talking points.
Posted by: GrimJack at October 21, 2009 06:53 PM (iTA1p)
92 You're thinking of the Borgia family.
Rodrigo and Lucrezia being the most famous scions of that clan. Rodrigo was later named Pope (Alexander VI, if I recall). And Lucrezia, daughter of Rodrigo, was infamous for her various...dalliances. (Rumor is not fact, however, and no solid historical evidence for Lucrezia's more sensational acts has ever come to light.)
Posted by: Monty at October 21, 2009 06:58 PM (nTxjg)
93 WHORIA BOOGER: Obama lovin, left wing, bag of liberal stink turds.
Posted by: Sparky at October 21, 2009 07:00 PM (mXY2a)
94 28 "Obama a tax-and-spend liberalYou mean like Reagan and the two Bushs?It's impressive how much traction that old lie "tax-and-spend liberal" gets."
Tiny Tim, why did we hear all the caterwauling from libs about how mean Reagan and Bush Jr were cutting taxes? In fact, I kept hearing how bad it was that Bush was cutting taxes in the middle of two wars and how we would all diefrom the "revenue" the government would "lose." Bush should have spent less, but at least he didn't raise my taxes.
Posted by: GrimJack at October 21, 2009 07:02 PM (iTA1p)
95 Mmm. Borgers.
Posted by: homer simpson at October 21, 2009 07:02 PM (2qU2d)
96 Mmm. Borgers.
Posted by: homer simpson at October 21, 2009 07:03 PM (2qU2d)
97 A Stenographer? I DO know what that is!
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 21, 2009 07:21 PM (SPSOE)
98 Gloria Borger is still alive?
Her career died around 1995. Someone should tell her.
Posted by: Pogo at October 21, 2009 07:22 PM (RaX26)
99 Obama and his parrot, Borger, say that Republicans aren't contributing, aren't participating, aren't doing a damn thing on health care reform, and the proof is that the radicals' plan didn't get a single GOP vote in the House and only one in the Senate.
In other words, "contributing"/"participating"/"being constructive" are DEFINED as: voting with the Democrats.
No mention of the dozen different comprehensive plans that have been developed and put forward by various Republican Congressman and Senators--and which have not been given even the dignity of a little discussion, because the committees are all headed by Democrats who make sure those proposals never see the light of day.
Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at October 21, 2009 08:49 PM (41/pY)
100 ""he's-a-big-spending-liberal" Obama narrative."
1.4 Trillion is a "narrative"?
Posted by: ronsfi at October 21, 2009 08:50 PM (jdXw+)
101 Thank Chuck Norris ace has the energy to sift through the media crap sandwich fed to us every day and Fisk it. I tried blogging on news bias for a while and was quickly overwhelmed. Then I tried to focus on Associated Press and still had more material than I could process. I remember the AP "news analysis" (or a similar title disguising rank opinion) which posited Cindy Sheehan as a military strategist, political leader, and moral compass.
As you say, "Borger's piece isn't particularly remarkable..." That's the dangerous bit. Compliant media with aggressive government is a bad mixture. When GWB was president there was never a shortage of Fourth Estate criticism. I don't recall the media -- ever -- cajoling the Democrats to go along with Bush.
Though I tend to obsess on the doom and gloom aspects of all this, recent opinion polls suggest the people you can't fool all the time are coming around.
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104 How can we get these participants in the secret meetings slimed for attention?
This is pretty damn close to blatant propaganda. Borger isn't even telling us where she derives her information.
Posted by: WTFCI at October 21, 2009 11:15 PM (H/RmL)
105 Gloria Borger? Isn't that the woman who got caught fucking her cats with a strap-on while dressed as Joseph Goebbels? I read it on the Internet so it must be true.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at October 21, 2009 11:39 PM (m2iXv)
106 It may just be time to boycott Bill Gates. You all have SOROS on the brain.
It should be noted that the overall domain at MSNBC is 'MSN.com'... not Soros.com.
Just a thought here but the borg, is actually located in Redmond washington, and he is us.
Microsoft has lamented the fact that they 'only get one shot at the consumer' and want to start renting usage based software. After-all, they don't make enough money.
The reality is they get that one shot every 4 years, and from both products, Windows and Office. (not that we REALLY need to use the same stuff, over and over, just rearranged so we can't find anything.) And really, just how many times do you need $150 - $400, from everyone with a computer.
We can hurt MSNBC by ignoring Microsoft. We are paying for the software, and they are using it against us. The primary 'Libritard' in this country is WILLIAM GATES.
I'm seriously going to start looking at the Redmond connection, but in the meantime, you heard it here first... and, rethink Windose 7.
Posted by: docjohn52 at October 22, 2009 02:06 AM (UOWe+)
107 Once upon a time, Gloria Borger, as well as Campbell Brown, and Nora O'Donnell seemed to be more fair-minded. One wonders are they now revealing their true beliefs or have they changed in order to further their careers?
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