White House Attack on FoxNews Really About Keeping Leftwing Media from Covering Any of Their Scoops

A commenter at Instapundit made this point the other day.

The criticism of Fox is not aimed at Fox. It is aimed at liberal editors, and is intended to quarantine the dramatic news being uncovered by right-of-center media. If the liberal editors accept the criticism, they’ll feel good about hiding right-of-center news stories from busy, non-political, swing-voting Americans.

A Politico story confirms this:

A White House attempt to delegitimize Fox News – which in past times would have drawn howls of censorship from the press corps – has instead been greeted by a collective shrug.

That’s true even though the motivations of the White House are clear: Fire up a liberal base disillusioned with Obama by attacking the hated Fox. Try to keep a critical news outlet off-balance. Raise doubts about future Fox stories.

But most of all, get other journalists to think twice before following the network’s stories in their own coverage.

...

To some media observers, it’s almost the definition of a “chilling effect” – a governmental attempt to steer reporters away from negative coverage – but the White House press corps has barely uttered a word of complaint.

That could be because of the perception among some journalists that Fox blurs the line between reporting and commentary - making it seem like not the most sympathetic victim.

Um, that could be because 99% of the White House press corps voted enthusiastically for Obama, too, and have staked their journalistic futures on his success.

But of course that doesn't occur to Politico. Too fantastical to be considered.

Still, the comments set off alarm bells with some journalists and media analysts.

“I can never remember a White House urging news organizations to boycott other news organizations. That strikes me as unprecedented,” said Thomas DeFrank, a Washington journalist who has covered eight presidents and now serves as the bureau chief of the New York Daily News.


“I see it as bullying a news organization, by the time you get to telling ABC or some other news organization how they should behave to another news organization,” said David Zurawik, media critic for the Baltimore Sun. “Someone should tell them: you’re one branch of government. We’re something else over here. Don’t lecture us about how we should behave towards one another.”

Politico notes that mixing news with "criticisms of the president" is working for FoxNews.

Um, didn't that used to work for the media generally?

Posted by: Ace at 12:31 PM



Comments

1 Well, Helen Thomas told the WhiteHouse to back off. THAT outta get their attention.

Posted by: Derak at October 20, 2009 12:34 PM (DUbUN)

2 For such an allegedly politically savvy bunch as this administration is touted to be you would think that they would know better than to pick a fight with somebody who buys printer's ink by the barrel.

I guess not.

Or maybe they're in a panic...

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 20, 2009 12:36 PM (OtQXp)

3 “Someone should tell them: you’re one branch of government. We’re something else over here..."

Interesting. They really do see themselves as a part of the government.

Posted by: XBradTC at October 20, 2009 12:36 PM (5h5ya)

4 Proof positive that the Obama people are drooling idiots . In their partisan zeal they've succeeded in pushing the leftwing media into Fox's corner . The Nation and Helen fuckin' Thomas defending Fox . Bizarre .
That's some kinda' ivy league genius , raht there .

Posted by: akward davies at October 20, 2009 12:36 PM (wb68R)

5 That could be because of the perception among some journalists that Fox blurs the line between reporting and commentary - making it seem like not the most sympathetic victim.
And the perception of most journalist about MSNBC and Olbermann, Matthews, Maddow and Schultz is....oh, my bad, they speak truth to power.
Jack Cafferty, Anderson Cooper........more truth to power.
Harry Smith at the CBS Morning News..........yup, truth to power.
Hey guys, still not sure why you are losing all of your viewers to the internets yet?

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 20, 2009 12:37 PM (V9SYy)

6 Does this White House fued with Fox constitute drama? Cause I thought it was No Drama Obama. Is that another campaign promise that has expired?

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 20, 2009 12:38 PM (V9SYy)

7 Uh...what's the "dramatic news uncovered" by "conservatives"?

Posted by: Upton Sinclair at October 20, 2009 12:39 PM (Ogqm2)

8 Just like with Honduras policy...when you begin to sound like Hugo Chavez, you might want to rethink your approach.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 20, 2009 12:39 PM (B+qrE)

9 @4, 6:

It seems that with each passing day this administration is becoming more and more Nixonesque. This may actually be fun to watch- if the economy doesn't completely collapse first.

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 20, 2009 12:40 PM (OtQXp)

10 Fox is getting real close to something Obama doesn't want the American people to see or know about. Anyone want to hazard a guess?

Posted by: Booter at October 20, 2009 12:40 PM (eimUK)

11 This explains why Charlie Gisbson was clueless about the Acorn scandal. He is not required to follow the chatter on Fox News because it is dangerous extremesit propaganda.

Posted by: California Red at October 20, 2009 12:41 PM (2Ppjg)

12 Honduras policy.

You dudes sure dig rightwing dictatorships.

Posted by: Upton Sinclair at October 20, 2009 12:41 PM (Ogqm2)

13 That could be because of the perception among some journalists that Fox blurs the line between reporting and commentary
The writer needs to be hit upside the head with Anderson Cooper.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 20, 2009 12:41 PM (e3Kgg)

14 Obama has only ten fingers to put in the dike. The levees will be soon breached on his watch. God help us all!

Posted by: dfbaskwill at October 20, 2009 12:41 PM (ympAm)

15 @10:

I think the ACORN thing really pissed him off and he's just small enough to be unable to rise above it.

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 20, 2009 12:42 PM (OtQXp)

16 Where am I?

Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 20, 2009 12:43 PM (TZazt)

17 You dudes sure dig rightwing dictatorships.
I think you might want to check a couple of definitions in that sentence, sparky.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 20, 2009 12:44 PM (B+qrE)

18 There is a meme coming from the MSM: It's not our fault we're biased! Blame FNC.

What sucks is that while the MSM in the past would just ignore us when we pointed out crap, now they have a quasi official excuse to do so.

Posted by: eddiebear at October 20, 2009 12:44 PM (wnU1W)

19 ace, I wanted to say something totally douche-baggy, but couldn't think of anything. Sorry.

Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2009 12:45 PM (mEJRc)

20 Obama has only ten fingers to put in the dike. The levees will be soon breached on his watch. God help us all!
Not to put too fine of a point on it: His fingers are wrapped around the sledgehammer that is being used on the dike.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 20, 2009 12:46 PM (B+qrE)

21 I'ma little surprisedthat most outlets are treating this with a "collective shrug." For so called journalists to roll over and let the executive branch dictate what constitutes news is just plain frightening. It's the first step...no strike that...it's a running start followed by a flying leap on to the slippery slope of governmentapproved news programming.
Goebbels would be proud.

Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at October 20, 2009 12:47 PM (E0EDC)

22

Fox is getting real close to something Obama doesn't want the American
people to see or know about. Anyone want to hazard a guess?



He doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground?

Posted by: bulwark at October 20, 2009 12:48 PM (jvrmc)

23 That could be because of the perception among some journalists that Fox blurs the line between reporting and commentary
Hysterical.
Um, like noted "journalist" Peter Arnett?
How about Dan Rather?
Mary Mapes?

Posted by: Jay at October 20, 2009 12:48 PM (/ZX77)

24 "Finger", "sledgehammer", and "dike" all in the same sentence; there's a joke in there somewhere, but I ain't going for it...

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 20, 2009 12:49 PM (OtQXp)

25 Ace, they did this during the election with minor jopurnalists at blogs, now moved onto the big time. look they went after snl fgsake

Posted by: 'bleeding heart willow, crusher of the Rethulicans! at October 20, 2009 12:50 PM (GkYyh)

26 You rang?

Posted by: Tipping Point at October 20, 2009 12:50 PM (SqAkN)

27 Two full circles have been completed in recent weeks. 1) Charles Johnson, who gained fame by busting Dan Rather's fraudulent journalism, has now adopted the fake-but-accurate standard in attacking Limbaugh. 2) All those mainstream journalist who were inspired by Woodward and Bernstein's expose of the Nixon White House during Watergate have now joined in a conspiracy of silence to cover up for the Obama White House's lies, crimes, and incompetence.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 20, 2009 12:50 PM (xxgag)

28 Politico = the mainstream media online. Big effing deal.

Posted by: BK at October 20, 2009 12:50 PM (nffrt)

29 I wonder if the next Woodward and Bernstein ever get tired of being patted on the head for being good boys and/or girls.

Posted by: pendejo grande at October 20, 2009 12:50 PM (J1eiU)

30 Fox is getting real close to something Obama doesn't want the American
people to see or know about. Anyone want to hazard a guess?

Arhooley pointed some of us over to a thread at pajamas media yesterday about Ayers. One of the commenters strung events together to conclude that his comments about authoring Dreams From My Father were, more than anything else, a warning to Obama that he was making too many compromises against 'the cause,' and should it continue, he had cards to play that would imperil Obama's Presidency.

Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2009 12:51 PM (mEJRc)

31 it's to chill thought.

Posted by: 'bleeding heart willow, crusher of the Rethulicans! at October 20, 2009 12:51 PM (GkYyh)

32 Where's that "Slide of Civilization" poster?

Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at October 20, 2009 12:51 PM (E0EDC)

33 Does Zero own stock in New Corp? I mean WTF? So much stupidity from so many. Not only have they given Fox News a ringing endorsement with this, they have labeled the rest of the MSM the low rent whores they are. Pearls from swine.

Posted by: maddogg at October 20, 2009 12:52 PM (OlN4e)

34 Attacking a major news outlet, all the while crowing about how the Administration'controls the news' is the most blatant and overt assault this Republic has ever faced.
If this doesn't wake up the sheep out there than nothing will and we are lost.
Wake the fuck up, America.

Posted by: LGoPs at October 20, 2009 12:52 PM (tm/sN)

35 Politico notes that mixing news with "criticisms of the president" is working for FoxNews. Um, didn't that used to work for the media generally?
Yeah, it did, until most of the media just stated sucking the chrome oft the "Won's" trailer hitch and abandoned news reporting altogether. Fox was mixing news with criticisms of all politicians during the Bush era too, they just didn't change their formula with the rest, probably because they have an allergic reaction to chrome plated trailer hitches.

Posted by: Speller at October 20, 2009 12:52 PM (tXSD8)

36 Honduras policy.You dudes sure dig rightwing dictatorships.

Oh Really.....

The Honduras Supreme Court finds the current leader trying to get around their Constitutional requirement of term limits so he can be presidente' for life....... blesses the removal of said leader..... blesses the interim President to asume control pending a new election.......

Right Wing Dictatorships = honoring the Constitution.....

Got it!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at October 20, 2009 12:53 PM (J5Hcw)

37 bleeding heart willow, crusher of the Rethulicans!

lol

Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2009 12:53 PM (mEJRc)

38 Isn't American Idol on Fox?

Posted by: 52% of Americans at October 20, 2009 12:53 PM (SqAkN)

39 You dudes sure dig rightwing dictatorships.
Yea, that is why we declared Akmandinnerjacket's election legitimate. Oh wait, that wasn't us.

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 20, 2009 12:54 PM (V9SYy)

40 I have nothing but contempt for what passes for journalism these days, Fox excepted.
If I had a neighbor that was a journalist I would spit on them.

Posted by: LGoPs at October 20, 2009 12:54 PM (tm/sN)

41 How many newsroom staffer did Fox fire this week? Smells like a desperate rear-guard action, whats next directly paying for good stories?

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2009 12:54 PM (6Njk9)

42 17 Where am I?
Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 20, 2009 12:43 PM (TZazt)
I LOL'd

Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at October 20, 2009 12:55 PM (E0EDC)

43 methos, heck i'm trying to learn to heckle trolls, not so good at it. but will learn. , chuckling

Posted by: 'bleeding heart willow, crusher of the Rethulicans! at October 20, 2009 12:55 PM (GkYyh)

44 "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

Posted by: ArandomPerson at October 20, 2009 12:56 PM (MSMPS)

45 The White House really screwed this up. We, the frothing right wing, were incensed that Murdoch and Fox pandered to Obama during the election and were ready to migrate on the blogs and Beitbart.tv.

Now, we are rallying to the flag.

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2009 12:57 PM (6Njk9)

46 It seems that with each passing day this administration is becoming more and more Nixonesque.

They've gone beyond even the liberals' caricature of Nixon. They're going the full Orwell.

The WH was pissed over Van Jones and over ACORN and they are afraid of the upcoming Mao videos. They rely on the media, not just to spin for them, but to suppress for them. If Beck keeps releasing video and actual quotes of Obama's close buddies, people might get the idea our president is a Marxist with fascist tendencies.

That's the thing, there is no bias. Beck is just releasing video. That's what the WH wants to avoid, they don't want it to spread.

After all, the LAT admitted to having a video of Obama attending a dinner in honor of Rashid Khalidi, noted anti-Semite and PLO operative. They refused to release it on the grounds that it wasn't newsworthy.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 20, 2009 12:57 PM (T0NGe)

47 David Axelrod looks like Hitler and Uncle Fester had a child.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 20, 2009 12:58 PM (b68Df)

48 Fox should fire back. Maybe a new segment on Special Report. "A new ABC/WaPo poll shows that 57% of Americans favor the public option. To analyze this joke, which sampled only 20% Republicans, here are Scott Rassmussen and Jim Zogby with shit-eating grins on their faces". Every day, tear down a network and tear down the bullshit coming from the other networks.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 20, 2009 12:58 PM (5aa4z)

49 what gets me is why do they whine now? they have been lying and covering for him for 2 years. what? are they afraid , it won't be for their own good anymore? well good.

Posted by: willow at October 20, 2009 12:59 PM (GkYyh)

50 I think the tide has turned and we've seen the fork in the road and we're going to take it.

Posted by: Not a Clue at October 20, 2009 12:59 PM (aUhwV)

51 It's the first step...no strike that...it's a running start followed by a flying leap on to the slippery slope of governmentapproved news programming.
But we'll still have paying jobs, right?

Posted by: The MSM at October 20, 2009 01:00 PM (gQ+XA)

52 Amish, that was when i recognised they were in the tank, soon to follow was the plumber.

Posted by: willow at October 20, 2009 01:00 PM (GkYyh)

53 AmishDude: They're going the full Orwell.

Heh- "The full Orwell", I am so going to steal that... :-)

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 20, 2009 01:00 PM (OtQXp)

54 Anyone who realized the Fourth Estate became a Fifth column over three decades ago, shouldn't be surprised the government is now trying to exterminate the partisan underground.

Posted by: MDr at October 20, 2009 01:00 PM (ucq49)

55 After all, the LAT admitted to having a video of Obama attending a dinner in honor of Rashid Khalidi, noted anti-Semite and PLO operative. They refused to release it on the grounds that it wasn't newsworthy.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 20, 2009 12:57 PM (T0NGe)

Ohh yeah, Now I remember why I got kicked out of lizard land.

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2009 01:01 PM (7K04W)

56 Those Charles Gibson jokesnever get old.

Posted by: Max Power at October 20, 2009 01:01 PM (+wxCD)

57 One problem with this strategy is that even if it "works" (in the sense of quarantining Fox and achieving Russian-level sycophancy from the rest of the American media) is that the American media isn't everything.
The British press may be about as sympathetic to Obama, but it's also very competitive, and the British newspapers won't let ideological agreement with a foreign politician get in the way of good stories, at least not as much. This was common during the Clinton years, where thenon-sycophantic stories oftenfirst appeared in the British press. And while the American MSM can get away with never discussing anything that appears on Fox, ignoring, say, The Times or the Guardian is tougher.

Posted by: suedenim at October 20, 2009 01:01 PM (KKkqo)

58 fox couldn't buy this kind of publicity.

Posted by: weewilly at October 20, 2009 01:02 PM (iBHcm)

59 Well, the Bamster does admire Chavez. Unfortunately, America has a long history of freedom of speech as guaranteed by our beautiful, prescient Constitution. (The hand of God was upon our founding fathers when they wrote it. Who knew that America would be challenged the way it is now just a few hundred years later?) The issue of free speech is one area of unbelievable hypocrisy when it comes to the left. The libtards beat their breasts and railed against George Bush and his "silencing" of free speech when he was President. Yet,these same disingenuous assholes are the first to trample on the first ammendment rights of conservatives. In their minds, free speech only applies to their "wise, enlightened" side, the rest of us ignorant, misinformed, hatefulbitter clingers must STF up.

Posted by: runningrn at October 20, 2009 01:02 PM (4R2pO)

60 Heh- "The full Orwell", I am so going to steal that... :-)

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 20, 2009 01:00 PM (OtQXp)
Thank you! I've been peddling it for a while now. It rolls off the tongue: The Full Orwell...

Posted by: AmishDude at October 20, 2009 01:04 PM (T0NGe)

61 they are afraid of the upcoming Mao videos
Beck's got another of those today but I'm not quite sure of the context of it like I was with the Anita Dunn one.

Posted by: Scott J. at October 20, 2009 01:04 PM (/bVuS)

62 OK, I've got a great idea. First, we get a giant papier mache head. Then, uh, help me out.....

Posted by: Wandering Aimlessly at October 20, 2009 01:05 PM (5aa4z)

63 If Fox News really wants to get Axelturd cheesed off , they should do a one hour special on his comb-over.

Posted by: Dr Carlo Lombardi at October 20, 2009 01:05 PM (/Mser)

64 Give me more news.
And less facts.

Posted by: Not a Clue at October 20, 2009 01:05 PM (aUhwV)

65 Wouldn't you think the rest of the media outlets would take this as a slap in the face?

I mean if any of these so called journalists had a brain cell left in their heads, they know they have been labeled the new ITAR/TASS or Pravda

Posted by: d at October 20, 2009 01:05 PM (uTknY)

66
While the New York Times newsroom is cutting 100 more jobs, Fox is adding them.

Who has the highest ratings? Fox. Bigger than CNN and MSNBC combined.

Their stories will continue to get out while the other media mouths the Democratic party line and prays for their own bailout.

Posted by: The Chewbacca Defense at October 20, 2009 01:06 PM (YMZjg)

67 From Breitbart last Friday:
"News Corp. chairman Rupert Murdoch said on Friday that White House criticism of commentators on his Fox News television channel had served to "tremendously" increase their ratings.
"There were some strong remarks coming out of the White House about one or two of the commentators on Fox News," Murdoch told the annual meeting of News Corp. shareholders here.
"And all I can tell you is that it's tremendously increased their ratings," he said.
Murdoch's remarks came after White House Communications Director Anita Dunn told The New York Times earlier this week that Fox News was "undertaking a war against Barack Obama and the White House."
The News Corp. chairman was also asked about the attitude of the Obama administration towards business.
"We're worried about the business climate and whether it will discourage the formation of new companies," he said.
"There is a public perception, certainly, that this government is anti-business," he said. "I'm not saying it's a correct perception but there is a perception and I think this perception is hurting the economy.
"We think the outlook for the economy is probably pretty steady," he added. "My own view... is that we're not going to get another vast steep decline but nor are we going to get any steep increase."

Posted by: runningrn at October 20, 2009 01:06 PM (4R2pO)

68 This administration is gonna be one for the history books. Already they have shown themselves to be utterly ineffective and tone deaf. I'm beginning to think they will be a bigger gift to us than that educated monkey jimmah Carter, and his bro pissing in the rose garden. Zero, go fetch me a Billy Beer.

Posted by: maddogg at October 20, 2009 01:06 PM (OlN4e)

69 10 Fox is getting real close to something Obama doesn't want the American people to see or know about. Anyone want to hazard a guess?
Nah, mostly because I think the possibilities are endless. More likely Obama and his boys have just never before encountered criticism they could not "make go away" with either charm or blackmail. Fox is probably immune to both, the rest of the MSM, not so much. BTW,I have long been of theopinion thatpartisan bureaucrats within theFBI / CIA have theevidence ona goodly number ofhigh-profile media figures who engaged in outright collaboration, for money,with the Soviets, the Viet Cong,Pol Pot, Castro, China, etc.
They wouldhide such informationfrom a Republican adminstration, but if Obama needed it, it would suddenly be leaked. Hard to see exactly how he would use it without lending credence to the right's assumptions about the loyalties of the media, but potentialblackmail victims (who are guilty as hell) may not beconfident enough tocall that bluff.
Or it could be the Ayers book. The confirmation that Obama outright lied abouthis authorship(and thus also his relationship with Ayers), coupled with a favorable debute for Palin's book, could be a perfect storm that wouldfracture Obama's credibility even with the infatuated.

Posted by: sherlock at October 20, 2009 01:07 PM (ZrS0c)

70 17
Where am I?


Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 20, 2009 12:43 PM (TZazt)
>>> I think the better question is, "Why are you?"

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 20, 2009 01:07 PM (xxgag)

71 Posted by: AmishDude at October 20, 2009 01:04 PM (T0NGe)
I too love the "full Orwell"--Heh!
Hey, and how about our Phils! I had to Pepto up watching that game last night!

Posted by: runningrn at October 20, 2009 01:08 PM (4R2pO)

72 I don't think this is the stupid tactic that many here make it out to be. In their minds it might just be the better of two bad strategies that they're faced with. It looks to me like Barry is laying the groundwork for something big.

Posted by: runninrebel at October 20, 2009 01:08 PM (i3PJU)

73 Zero, go fetch me a Billy Beer. you're fuckin' shine box.

Is that racist?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 20, 2009 01:08 PM (5aa4z)

74
The criticism of Fox is not aimed at Fox. It is aimed at liberal editors, and is intended to quarantine the dramatic news being uncovered by right-of-center media. If the liberal editors accept the criticism, they’ll feel good about hiding right-of-center news stories from busy, non-political, swing-voting Americans.
This White House really does have only one strategy--The Saul Alinksy tactic. Republicans should be able to beat them when they only employ one method of attack. If a couple of 20 year olds could do it, what about the Party of Lincoln? Michael Steele are you listening? Anyone? Anyone?

Posted by: runningrn at October 20, 2009 01:10 PM (4R2pO)

75 this might get Obama to release some Public funding Help to them, sthell up money.

Posted by: willow at October 20, 2009 01:10 PM (GkYyh)

76 #73 I agree. I mean NOBODY is this stupid. Something is coming down the pike.

Posted by: Jewells at October 20, 2009 01:11 PM (l/N7H)

77 I need to find Rham's CNN appearance online somewhere and watch it again.
I've seen it once and there was a sentence in that that sounded to me sort of like "the others will report the way we want them to". I'm hoping I heard that wrong.
No one else seems to have picked up on it.

Posted by: Scott J. at October 20, 2009 01:13 PM (/bVuS)

78 I don't use my hands to pushmy glasses up on my nose...LOOK MOM, NO HANDS!...I just push my nose a little farther up Obamas ass and that seems to do the trick everytime. If I'm lyin', I'm dyin" and I feel fine!

Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 20, 2009 01:13 PM (hI/ty)

79 They could be preparing the field for a bailout of "objective" media outlets. But that seems counterproductive to me.

They could be trying to neutralize criticism from Fox if they are going to ram Obamacare through reconciliation.

I don't know but I'm pretty sure it's something big.

Posted by: runninrebel at October 20, 2009 01:15 PM (i3PJU)

80 fcc, fairness doctrine, how far along is it? why wasn't anita dunn looking for a new job in a foundation of some kind?

Posted by: willow at October 20, 2009 01:15 PM (GkYyh)

81 Has anyone seen my medication?

Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 20, 2009 01:15 PM (TZazt)

82 I think the tide has turned and we've seen the fork in the road and we're going to take it.
"Bear Left, Bear Left!"
"Right, Frog!"

Posted by: Kermit the Frog and Fozzie Bear at October 20, 2009 01:16 PM (4R2pO)

83 It looks to me like Barry is laying the groundwork for something big.

What do you think that may be? Personally, I put nothing past the guy but can't figure what he might try.

Posted by: LGoPs at October 20, 2009 01:16 PM (4x8W0)

84 People tell me, "if you find yourself in a hole, stop digging".
I tell them, "if you find yourself in a hole, start feeling around because that donut has to be there somewhere".
They're amazed.

Posted by: Not a Clue at October 20, 2009 01:17 PM (aUhwV)

85 82, according to Beck she's already announced intent to leave at the end of this year.

Posted by: Scott J. at October 20, 2009 01:17 PM (/bVuS)

86 I don't think this group of amateurs is capable of doing anything bigger than a steaming pile of bull shit. All empty suits and hopey changey windbags...

/Zero, hop on that Billy beer, dammit!

Posted by: maddogg at October 20, 2009 01:19 PM (OlN4e)

87 What passing over a trillion dollars in deficit spending and not even allowing the legislature more than 10 hours to read the 1000 page bill wasn't big enough for you? If you got something bigger than that let me know.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at October 20, 2009 01:19 PM (SqAkN)

88 wouldn't we really know what He is up to by understanding the Poverty Act legislation He sponsored?

Posted by: willow at October 20, 2009 01:19 PM (GkYyh)

89 Look, they're not a real news organization, and we just want you real news organizations to know that, because it's not something you can figure out for yourselves. You need us to tell you things like that.

Posted by: The White House at October 20, 2009 01:20 PM (ejHeB)

90 82, whew good deal, I keep missing Becks show unless is mentioned on here.

Posted by: willow at October 20, 2009 01:20 PM (GkYyh)

91 "First they came for Sarah Palin, but I didn't speak up because I didn't much care for that dumb hick from Wasilla,
Thenthey came for Rush Limbaugh, but I didn't speak up because I didn't like his vitriolic, racist, right wing lies.
Then they came for Fox News, but I didn't speak up because they are a partisan, biased, talking points machine for the Republican Party that isn't a real news organization.
Then they came for the Conservative Blogs, but I didn't speak up because I don't wear pajamas.
Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak up for me."

Posted by: The Lamestream Media at October 20, 2009 01:22 PM (4R2pO)

92 For such an allegedly politically savvy bunch as this administration is
touted to be you would think that they would know better than to pick a
fight with somebody who buys printer's ink by the barrel.

They don't have to know better. If the media isn't going to call bullshit on these people then they have no incentive to play fair. Aside from Fox, if another major outlet stepped out of line, axelnoob will just call a higher up at the parent company and have jobs threatened.

The few real journalists don't want to be out of work, so they don't speak up. The rest actually want this stuff to happen. They honestly do not care one bit about corruption and fraud as long as it benefits their own people. I heard many a liberal in the last 8 years say they would do almost anything at all, legal or not, if it meant getting a democrat in the oval office. Those same liberals are the ones now delivering the nightly news.

Posted by: justanotherbostonian at October 20, 2009 01:22 PM (GFaLW)

93 People tell me, "if you find yourself in a hole, stop digging".
I tell them, "if you find yourself in a hole, start feeling around because that donut has to be there somewhere".
They're amazed.
Ha! Ha! I lol'd!

Posted by: The Lamestream Media at October 20, 2009 01:23 PM (4R2pO)

94
It looks to me like Barry is laying the groundwork for something big.

-- or in preparation for a storm, did someone slip him an advance copy of Sarah's book or Judge Carters' opinion?

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2009 01:23 PM (YLeFn)

95 Fox could run a ton of promos that use this, all of which leave CNN and the rest looking like idiots.

Posted by: ed at October 20, 2009 01:23 PM (Urhve)

96 Oops! Sock off!

Posted by: runningrn at October 20, 2009 01:24 PM (4R2pO)

97
We make a mistake if we simplify our views to the idea that it's left vs. right.

The critical battles that are making this administration unravel are the ones happening on their side of the spectrum:

KP (kenyan princess) vs. his hard-left core constituency
KP vs. unions
KP vs. congressional dems
KP vs. foreigners w/purple lip prints on their ass cheeks
KP vs. bankers
KP vs. ACORN misbehavior
KP vs. Daley's machine
KP vs. legacy race-hustlers
KP vs. seniors

Whether they're sitting-out intentionally or by coincidence, it makes sense for the GOP not to interfere with this unraveling. And Fox News need do nothing more than just their jobs by reporting on it.

Posted by: MikeO at October 20, 2009 01:25 PM (WvolZ)

98 Even if the other outlets listen to Axelrod, all they've done is hand Fox a monopoly license to every breaking political news story in the country for at least the next 3 years.
There's no amount of money Fox could pay for the gift that Obammy has just handed them for free!

Posted by: wws at October 20, 2009 01:25 PM (T1boi)

99 What could they be laying the groundwork for? It's hard to say since there are a thousand possibilities. Unless Obamacare is in real trouble (which I don't think it is) then I don't think it will be legislative. But if it is I'd wager on:

1. Reconciliation
2. Fairness Doctrine.
3. Bailout of "Objective" media

But this strategy seems so stupid it makes me think the issue is something out of their control, like:

1. An Israeli attack against Iran and a US betrayal of the Joos.
2. An Iranian nuke test.

Another possibility is that they are actually planning on letting Afghanistan wither on the vine or pulling out altogether.


Posted by: runninrebel at October 20, 2009 01:25 PM (i3PJU)

100 Fox is getting real close to something Obama doesn't want the American people to see or know about. Anyone want to hazard a guess?
How about his college records, his drug use, his passport(s), medical records, or theactual size of Michelle's butt?

Posted by: wth at October 20, 2009 01:26 PM (wAQA5)

101 whew good deal, I keep missing Becks show unless is mentioned on here
He made a big deal about this news being buried in the Wa Po style section though.
Story ran the same day Beck frst did her Mao loving video.

Posted by: Scott J. at October 20, 2009 01:26 PM (/bVuS)

102 Obama has only ten fingers to put in the dike.
Don't talk about MANCHELLE like that!

Posted by: rightzilla at October 20, 2009 01:26 PM (rVJH4)

103 The Fox guys and gals should start dressing like war correspondants in the studio - the full Geraldo look. Some barrage balloons around the HQ, etc. Fox Under Attack could be the crawl.

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2009 01:26 PM (tTdaQ)

104 Those Charles Gibson jokesnever get old.
Posted by: Max Power at October 20, 2009 01:01 PM (+wxCD)
Who is this Charles Gibson, and what does he do? He's probably one of those stories best left to those crazy bloggers.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 20, 2009 01:26 PM (4R2pO)

105 White House Attack on FoxNews Really About Keeping Leftwing Media from Covering Any of Their Scoops
I think you're on to something here. The real damage that the news inflicts is not necessarily the 'scoop', whatever it is. The damage comes from the pile-on by everybody else and the avalanche of repetition. That repetition iswhat makes the information sink in to the public's perception. And once it takes hold it's all over.
Just my thoughts and proof that I have an uncanny grasp of the blindingly obvious.
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Posted by: LGoPs at October 20, 2009 01:28 PM (4x8W0)

106 Fox is getting real close to something Obama doesn't want the American people to see or know about. Anyone want to hazard a guess?
How about his college records, his drug use, his passport(s), medical records, or theactual size of Michelle's butt?
Ugh, that's one story I could do without. Besides, there's not enough paper to cover that one!

Posted by: runningrn at October 20, 2009 01:28 PM (4R2pO)

107 How is this not fascism? Because only Republicans can be fascists according to the Left.
Will the WH now issue endorsements for "approved" news organizations? They can all be be labelled Pravda or Granma.
Gibbs is a complete and utter fool.

Posted by: Amor de Cosmos at October 20, 2009 01:30 PM (yIv/4)

108 If Fox News really wants to get Axelturd cheesed off , they should do a one hour special on his comb-over.

I love you guys and girls! The left just can't bring the humor like we can!

Posted by: dfbaskwill at October 20, 2009 01:30 PM (7Gs5S)

109 The problem with journalism has been brewing since the Nixon days, everyone wanted to be the next Woodward and Bernstein.
Journalists today are activists. Journalistic activism is at the root of a lot of our problems today.

Posted by: rawmuse at October 20, 2009 01:31 PM (wzfkL)

110 What passing over a trillion dollars in deficit spending and not even
allowing the legislature more than 10 hours to read the 1000 page bill
wasn't big enough for you? If you got something bigger than that let me
know.
It's now 1500 pages. Those extra 500 pages probably has all the good stuff in it!

Posted by: dfbaskwill at October 20, 2009 01:32 PM (7Gs5S)

111 The British press may be about as sympathetic to Obama, but it's also very competitive, and the British newspapers won't let ideological agreement with a foreign politician get in the way of good stories, at least not as much. This was common during the Clinton years, where thenon-sycophantic stories oftenfirst appeared in the British press. And while the American MSM can get away with never discussing anything that appears on Fox, ignoring, say, The Times or the Guardian is tougher.
The British, French and German newspapers have already had some pieces that were critical of Obama. Chris Wallace was so right when he said "this administration is the biggest bunch of babies". Once the Bamster succesfully "handles" the American Press, is he going to stamp his foot at the international press? I wonder how the German people feel about Obama cancelling plans to attend the 20th anniversary celebration of the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Posted by: runningrn at October 20, 2009 01:33 PM (4R2pO)

112 Zero, go fetch me a Billy Beer. you're fuckin' shine box.
You do know what happened to Billy Bates after he said that?

Posted by: Lou at October 20, 2009 01:33 PM (LLOGQ)

113 If you pick your own nose, generally you're going to find a booger on your finger.
If you pick someone else's nose, you should see a doctor.

Posted by: Not a Clue at October 20, 2009 01:35 PM (aUhwV)

114 Will the WH now issue endorsements for "approved" news organizations? They can all be be labelled Pravda or Granma.
Hey, we take umbrage at that statement! We printed stuff about Obama that the American press refused to report on! Don't belibeling us by bestowing our name on the White House controlled media. Otherwise, we'll be seeing you in court.

Posted by: Pravda at October 20, 2009 01:35 PM (4R2pO)

115 Journalistic activism is at the root of a lot of our problems today
Limbaugh has been saying this for years.
Interview a journalism student and they'll say they want to "change the world" 99.9% of the time. Report the news is somewhere way down the list if it's even on there at all.

Posted by: Scott J. at October 20, 2009 01:37 PM (/bVuS)

116 I believe it was "Buckhead" at Freerepublic.com that busted Dan Rather.

Posted by: pam at October 20, 2009 01:38 PM (h8R9p)

117 118, and a liberal takes the credit. Typical.

Posted by: Scott J. at October 20, 2009 01:39 PM (/bVuS)

118 Click through the display ad on aoshq and buy an obama t-shirt today.

We are all whores now.


Posted by: Lee Atwater at October 20, 2009 01:39 PM (Ogqm2)

119 If Fox News really wants to get Axelturd cheesed off , they should do a one hour special on his comb-over. Posted by: Dr Carlo Lombardi at October 20, 2009 01:05 PM (/Mser)

LOL

Posted by: Old Hippie Vet at October 20, 2009 01:40 PM (3IZGh)

120 This is an outrage. We do not only publish what the WH orders. We have plenty of stuff ordered by Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro and Daniel Ortega to provide balance. Please retract immediately.

Posted by: Gramma at October 20, 2009 01:41 PM (8hqJt)

121 the chair is against the wall
the chair is against the wall

john has a long mustache
john has a long mustache

Posted by: Anon Radio at October 20, 2009 01:41 PM (jt0wd)

122 Last night O'Reilly was saying he thought it was because Barry was personally cheesed off about Fox tieing him to leftist radicals like Ayers. They kept putting up picturesWright/Ayers/Van Jones while O'Reillywas talking, andit sure seemed like he enjoyingrubbing Barry's face in it. I think Bill has finally figured out that Barry won't be coming on his show again.

Posted by: Fred R. at October 20, 2009 01:41 PM (Ojgte)

123 BTW, hows that big nasty Leftard project of getting Beck thrown off of Fox working out? Not so good?

Posted by: maddogg at October 20, 2009 01:41 PM (OlN4e)

124 @ 109 Will the WH now issue endorsements for "approved" news organizations?

No shit -- Where does any administration get off sending its stooges out to essentially dictate what news sources the populous should watch? So much for the First Amendment guarantee of a free press....

Posted by: Curly Mustard at October 20, 2009 01:42 PM (sOpAl)

125 Beckshould say: "Well since we are being frozen out of the news by the White House, all we can do is dig around in the vault and see what we have that we haven't used before. Who knows what we'll find?"

Posted by: sherlock at October 20, 2009 01:43 PM (ZrS0c)

126 Beck uncovers another Maoist among the President's men. Maybe "Maoist" is too strong a word, but one who propounds a Maoist idea and mentions where it came from.
Ron Bloom, Manufacturing Czar:
BLOOM: Generally speaking we get the joke. We know that the free market is nonsense. We know that the whole point is to game the system, to beat the market, or at least find someone who will pay you a lot of money because they're convinced that there is a free lunch. We know this is largely about power, that it's an adults only, no limit game. We kind of agree with Mao that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun. And we get it that if you want a friend, you should get a dog.

However, I know that very soon, we'll see the President's advisors who spout far-right rhetoric. The two ends of the spectrum with which Obama surrounds himself, so that he can be a centrist.

Any. Day. Now.

Posted by: Original Roy at October 20, 2009 01:44 PM (ejHeB)

127 If you pick your own nose, generally you're going to find a booger on your finger.
If you pick someone else's nose, you should see a doctor.
Why would I need to see a doctor? Barry told me he likes it when I'm second nuckle deep in his nostril.

Posted by: Slow Joe at October 20, 2009 01:44 PM (4R2pO)

128 I remember when the news was stoically delivered without side comment or bqanter. I am talking news now. I also remember wehn Bill Buckley had his show and would spend tons of time on the interview at hand. It was not about him, he let people talk and put themselves in a corner. (Find old interviews on U-Tube I believe). My point is, since society relaxed everything to casual conversation, there has beenless and less reporting and more and more unfettered bias. Even on the FOX news shows I get a little tired of the interjection of goofing and side comments that happens. remember when Shep jumped the shark on Trina coverage and started yelling aobutwhat he was seeing and enarly losing his mind? Never would have seen a reporter inawar zone do that years ago. You cannot be part of the stary, and for the reporters of today, it is not about the stroy, it is about them.

Posted by: rightzilla at October 20, 2009 01:44 PM (rVJH4)

129 FOX Facing Nearly $30 Million in Indecency Fines http://bit.ly/Su2kF

Posted by: Phil at October 20, 2009 01:44 PM (WVawV)

130 Beckshould say: "Well since we are being frozen out of the news by the White House, all we can do is dig around in the vault and see what we have that we haven't used before. Who knows what we'll find?"
Heh Heh! That vault thing worked out really well for another Fox News Journalist.

Posted by: Zombie of Al Capone at October 20, 2009 01:45 PM (4R2pO)

131 Chairman Zero has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?

Posted by: maddogg at October 20, 2009 01:45 PM (OlN4e)

132 This reminds me of the time when Iraqi U.N.
ambassador Mohammed Al-Douri was checking out of his residence and he called out to the CNN reporter (among the various
reporters) and said "thank you" and gave him a hug.

What could be more damning to a news organization than getting a seal of approval from the people you are covering.

Posted by: scrubjay at October 20, 2009 01:47 PM (6Bi8V)

133 http://tinyurl.com/yhq95ge
Jake Tapper actually asked Baghdad Bob Gibbsey about this today at the daily WH press briefing propaganda session. Hilarious!

Posted by: Marybeth at October 20, 2009 01:47 PM (3niom)

134 I forgot how to pee.
Is it in the front or the back?

Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 20, 2009 01:48 PM (aTTEq)

135 136
I forgot how to pee.
Is it in the front or the back?
Just sit down and let it happen Chuck. You'll know when you feel the tingle in your leg.

Posted by: maddogg at October 20, 2009 01:49 PM (OlN4e)

136 Holy Crap, Phil (131). I just read your link, and it made the hairs on my neck stand up!
In a press release given to the Huffington Post and other press outlets this morning, White House Communications Director Anita Dunn stated that the Federal Communications Commission was asked to fine the FOX Corporation for violations of the Broadcast Decency Enforcement Act of 2005. This came after repeated racist and derogatory attacks made on FOXNews over the last two years.In accordance with the 2005 law, every time the network featured a "particularly offensive" or "flagrantly untruthful" segment, a fine is levied. White House officials estimate the 2008-2009 fine to be nearing $29 million.While FOX, owned by NewsCorp, is likely not to go into bankruptcy over the fines, it is called a "lesson in decency" by Ms. Dunn.Dunn stated that the White House is considering asking the FCC to revoke or suspend FOX's privilege to broadcast on cable television. This appears unlikely at the moment, due to a lack of precedent."We cannot allow lies so flagrantly over the airwaves." Dunn stated in the release. "It is just like the propaganda that is used by foreign dictatorships. It is bordering on un-American."
And who is to determine what's "particularly offensive or flagrantly untruthful"? Wow. I know Fox has the money and means to get great con law experts, and I think the discovery process would go poorly for the other side, but what a chilling, evil effect these fines will have on free speech.

Posted by: runningrn at October 20, 2009 01:49 PM (4R2pO)

137 After Trying to Delegitimize Fox News, White House Makes Bo Liaison to Other Media Lapdogs: http://tinyurl.com/yzpxsrl

Posted by: Justin Camp at October 20, 2009 01:51 PM (nF4Jh)

138 128, I was listening to that one on the drive in this morning. I'm hoping Beck has gone to his usual efforts to make sure it's in context.
Seems to me this guy could be setting up a status quo to knock down by actually defending the free market.
Not likely but you never know.

Posted by: Scott J. at October 20, 2009 01:51 PM (/bVuS)

139 The MSM was/is a willing participant in allowing Obama to ‘absolutely control’ the broadcast propaganda.They drink gallons of Jonestown Kool-Aid, and can’t understand why Fox News ratings are sky-high while theirs are in the cellar.
Fox News is a maverick among sheep. I’m glad there’s a media organization that actually fact checks and shows Obama for the nihilist megalomaniac he is. All of his staff and appointees are so far to the Left they make Vladimir Lenin look moderate. Their own words, philosophy, and backgrounds are all the material we need to expose them.
Fuck Obama. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. He needs to get used to it.

Posted by: SFC MAC at October 20, 2009 01:51 PM (cuNX0)

140 Dayeight of Obama's inability to make a decsion about Afghanistan while our soldiers are in the field.
At least it wasn't about Portugese Water Spaniels.

Posted by: TexasJew at October 20, 2009 01:51 PM (aTTEq)

141 Jake Tapper actually asked Baghdad Bob Gibbsey about this today at the daily WH press briefing propaganda session. Hilarious!
Wow, basically Gibbsy's only defense was like that old "because I'm the mom and I said so" line.
Jake Tapper is one of the few in the MSM who actually asks the tough questions.

Posted by: runningrn at October 20, 2009 01:51 PM (4R2pO)

142 @ 138 And who is to determine what's "particularly offensive or flagrantly untruthful"?

All those who find Keith Olbermann a truthful and inoffensive broadcaster, silly!

Posted by: Curly Mustard at October 20, 2009 01:51 PM (sOpAl)

143 @138 welcome to Soviet Union redux. That is scary.

Posted by: NotaMolly at October 20, 2009 01:52 PM (DVdj4)

144 I see from 131's link they intend to double down.

Posted by: Scott J. at October 20, 2009 01:52 PM (/bVuS)

145 However, I know that very soon, we'll see the President's advisors who spout far-right rhetoric. The two ends of the spectrum with which Obama surrounds himself, so that he can be a centrist.Any. Day. Now.
Posted by: Original Roy at October 20, 2009 01:44 PM (ejHeB)
How now, Brown Mao?

Posted by: runningrn at October 20, 2009 01:54 PM (4R2pO)

146 The scariest thing about 131's link is to think this bunch wants the FCC to regulate blogs.

Posted by: Scott J. at October 20, 2009 01:55 PM (/bVuS)

147 And who is to determine what's "particularly offensive or flagrantly untruthful"? Wow. I know Fox has the money and means to get great con law experts, and I think the discovery process would go poorly for the other side, but what a chilling, evil effect these fines will have on free speech.
So, when guests make racist statements against Juan Williams in a debate....does that get FOX fined? Are these statements made by Brit or Hemmer or John Scott, the news casters? This is really a slippery slope and I think it just got steeeeeeeeeper. It IS the governmetn stopping free speech and it is unchecked!

Posted by: rightzilla at October 20, 2009 01:55 PM (rVJH4)

148 @ 138 "We cannot allow lies so flagrantly over the airwaves." Dunn stated in the release.

I don't suppose Chairman Dunn could be troubled to actually provide evidence of Fox's news division propagating any "flagrant lies"...

Posted by: Curly Mustard at October 20, 2009 01:55 PM (sOpAl)

Posted by: Ronald Reagan at October 20, 2009 01:55 PM (VrNoa)

150 Fuck Obama. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. He needs to get used to it.
Posted by: SFC MAC at October 20, 2009 01:51 PM (cuNX0)
Ha! And I bet you thought the lack of sunspot activity was just a coincidence! Bwhahahaha! Because in the end there will only be darkness (oh and chaos!)

Posted by: Dr. Barackenstein, Mad Scientist at October 20, 2009 01:56 PM (4R2pO)

151 "We cannot allow lies so flagrantly over the airwaves." Dunn stated in the release.


So no more monthly primetime Obama speeches?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 20, 2009 01:56 PM (NtiET)

152 If the MSM had any investigative instinct, or balls, they'd start asking questions as to how Zazi first came on the feds' radar.
C'mon, this guy was planning another attack on the Homeland and went further than any other threat since 9/11.
So far, no one in the MSM has questioned how the FBI first found out about him.
Fox: are you listening? Ask the questions. Find out how the feds could have possibly found him.
I can guarantee you the answer is not something the Obama Administration wants to admit, or liberals want to hear.

Posted by: Blogluddite at October 20, 2009 01:57 PM (fDWFP)

153 If the Administration (God forbid) ever go so far as closing down Fox, Rush, Beck, Hannity or some other big media outlet that doesn't kowtow to them appropriately, there WILL BE a revolution. Millions upon millions of patriotic, motivated folks WOULD NOT approve.

Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 20, 2009 01:58 PM (B5cM9)

154 155, might be time to think in terms of setting up pirate TV and radio stations.
We might not be too far from having to do that.

Posted by: Scott J. at October 20, 2009 02:00 PM (/bVuS)

155 I hope Fox takes these fines all the way to the SCOTUS - each and every one of them.

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2009 02:01 PM (7K04W)

156 @148
Scott J,
C'mon Man! If you haven't figured outthat they have been engaged in a long and painful process of identifying dissenters thru the blogs, and internet searches, then you are really kidding yourself.
These people play hardball, and after 30 years of planning they aren't going to roll over and play dead just because you have finally figured out that you should be scared of them.
It is much easier for them to make a large power grab and continue then to give up now.

Posted by: Jimi at October 20, 2009 02:01 PM (ZBY0f)

157 158, I've been an anti-big government loudmouth since 1993. I know I'm probably on several watch lists.

Posted by: Scott J. at October 20, 2009 02:03 PM (/bVuS)

158 If the MSM had any investigative instinct, or balls, they'd start asking questions as to how Zazi first came on the feds' radar...
I can guarantee you the answer is not something the Obama Administration wants to admit, or liberals want to hear.
Posted by: Blogluddite at October 20, 2009 01:57 PM (fDWFP)
I too have pondered (aloud, even) this very thing. We were told that the national security measures George Bush implemented trampled on people's rights and didn't accomplish anything. Teh Won has maintained the wiretapping and other Homeland Security measures. I know I'm just a uniformed lumpen proletariat, but even my small pea sized brain can wrap itself around this incovenient truth.

Posted by: runningrn at October 20, 2009 02:03 PM (4R2pO)

159 So no more monthly primetime Obama speeches?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 20, 2009 01:56 PM (NtiET)
Heather, you always make me smile!

Posted by: runningrn at October 20, 2009 02:04 PM (4R2pO)

160 10
Fox is getting real close to something Obama doesn't want the American
people to see or know about. Anyone want to hazard a guess?

Well, Phil's post at 138 certainly lends weight to the "Fox getting too close" meme. Ironically, it's probably that he is indeed a marxist dictator wannabe following Ayers orders, and is indeed planning on abolishing the constitution, starting with amendment #1. Starting, oh, say, tomorrow.

Posted by: Deral at October 20, 2009 02:05 PM (DUbUN)

161 @159
Scott J,
Me Too! I knew these days were coming long ago. I just can't believe that it is actually possible that I'm going to have drop everything and actually fight for my freedom.
Shame on you 52%-DumbAsses!

Posted by: Jimi at October 20, 2009 02:07 PM (ZBY0f)

162 163, I almost go all Glen Beck weepy over the fact I might die at the hands of the government and my kids (4 and 2) will have to grow up without me.

Posted by: Scott J. at October 20, 2009 02:09 PM (/bVuS)

163 @164
Scott J,
Yes, the saddest part of this entire mess is what we are doing to the future generation. I was taught to leave my country better than I found it. I have tried my best. I follow the laws, pay my taxes, and raise my kids to be good citizens. What do I get in return?
I get a Big F*k You! Well, I aint going down like a Bitch (PERIOD)

Posted by: Jimi at October 20, 2009 02:13 PM (ZBY0f)

164 Huffington Post is DOWN. that is the link to the story regarding Fox getting fined courtesy of Anita Dunn and the White House.

Hmmm.

Posted by: Derak at October 20, 2009 02:14 PM (DUbUN)

165 123: The mournful song of the violins in autumn...

Posted by: Skookumchuk at October 20, 2009 02:15 PM (btzPD)

166 The wonderful, skilled, patriotic military and police of this Republic WILL NOT fight for the government in the cause of tyranny.

Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 20, 2009 02:18 PM (B5cM9)

167 @131 and @138: looks like that link was "edited at 12:50 PM" and now says that the Huffpo story they originally linked to is no longer there. Screenshots, anyone?

Posted by: Home of Joe Biden at October 20, 2009 02:18 PM (mN3EM)

168 runningrn--thanks!

I'm serious, of course...

Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 20, 2009 02:18 PM (NtiET)

169 The HuffPo article asserts that Beck called Van Jones a "monkey." That sounds like a lie. Calling him a monkey would be a big deal. I can't find any evidence of it whatsoever.

Posted by: runninrebel at October 20, 2009 02:20 PM (i3PJU)

170 the story at Phil's #131 post is a hoax. THere's no flagrantly untruthful" claim in the "Decency" Act

oh, and

64
If Fox News really wants to get Axelturd cheesed off , they should do a one hour special on his comb-over.

Posted by: Dr Carlo Lombardi

I lol'ed

Posted by: moron # 56432 at October 20, 2009 02:20 PM (p1s9n)

171 153 "We cannot allow lies so flagrantly over the airwaves." Dunn stated in the release.So no more monthly primetime Obama speeches?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 20, 2009 01:56 PM (NtiET)
Heather, you beat me to it.

Posted by: SFC MAC at October 20, 2009 02:20 PM (cuNX0)

172 But wait, there's more! From Fox News:
The Obama campaign's press strategy leading up to his election last November focused on "making" the media cover what the campaign wanted and on exercising absolute "control" over coverage, White House Communications Director Anita Dunn told an overseas crowd early this year.
In a video of the event, Dunn is seen describing in detail the media strategy used by then-Sen. Barack Obama's highly disciplined presidential campaign. The video is footage from a Jan. 12 forum hosted by the Global Foundation for Democracy and Development in the Dominican Republic.
"Very rarely did we communicate through the press anything that we didn't absolutely control," Dunn said, admitting that the strategy "did not always make us popular in the press."
The Press has always been the Bamster's Pattsies. When are they going to wake up?

Posted by: runningrn at October 20, 2009 02:22 PM (4R2pO)

173 In accordance with the 2005 law, every time the network featured a "particularly offensive" or "flagrantly untruthful" segment, a fine is levied. White House officials estimate the 2008-2009 fine to be nearing $29 million.
So how much is MSNBC in for? Anyone.... anyone... Bueller?

Posted by: harleycowboy at October 20, 2009 02:22 PM (JKGfQ)

174 Anita "Torquemada" Dunn:

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! ...Amongst our weaponry
are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an
almost fanatical devotion to the One, and nice red uniforms - Oh damn!

Posted by: dfbaskwill at October 20, 2009 02:23 PM (7Gs5S)

175 The Press has always been the Bamster's Pattsies. When are they going to wake up?
Why would they wake up. They're getting exactly what they want.

Posted by: Scott J. at October 20, 2009 02:24 PM (/bVuS)

176 say it with me, H O A X.

It's initially from a Hannitard page for God's sake.

Posted by: moron # 6432562 at October 20, 2009 02:24 PM (p1s9n)

177 oh yeah, Teh Obamessiah is going to be praying to the portrait of Abraham Lincoln before too long. He is turning out to be more Nioxonian than Nixon ever was. The funny thing is that the comparison will sail over the heads of all the Nixon-hating douchebags who voted for him. (That would include my own parents, who would have been livid if Nixon had ever done such a thing as stooping to to vent prejudice against a news network.)

Posted by: exdem13 at October 20, 2009 02:25 PM (lYKj1)

178 168 The wonderful, skilled, patriotic military and police of this Republic WILL NOT fight for the government in the cause of tyranny
Not all of them. There are plenty of statists (non-Oath Keepers) in the ranks.
The split would be one of the ugliest aspects of it.

Posted by: Scott J. at October 20, 2009 02:26 PM (/bVuS)

179 He is turning out to be more Nioxonian than Nixon ever was
Yeah, I'm waiting for the Bamster to pull off his Barry mask, revealing his Tricky Dick face.

Posted by: runningrn at October 20, 2009 02:29 PM (4R2pO)

180 Fox is getting real close to something Obama doesn't want the American people to see or know about. Anyone want to hazard a guess?
That's what I've been thinking as well. The whole "You only catch flak when you're right over the target" or however that saying goes.
I think Beck has put this WH over the edge with his reporting on Van Jones, Acorn, etc. etc.

Posted by: Cheri at October 20, 2009 02:32 PM (G+Wff)

181 172- that's what I'm thinking. Hoax. If real, you'd have the makings of civil insurrection. Vet, vet, vet.

Pulling a US Chamber of Commerce style hoax?

Incidentally, Rush had audio of how that hoax came down. This guy sets up a press meeting and claims he's from the US Chamber. Press comes. Guy starts saying they've lost too many members and are therefore embracing global warming from now on. Enter REAL US Chamber spokesman, who interrupts and tells press the guy is a poseur.

Press shouts down REAL Chamber spokesman, demands proof of identity, and runs with story poseur has delivered.

People want to believe. That doesn't make it real.








Posted by: Derak at October 20, 2009 02:34 PM (DUbUN)

182
It seems to me that Axelrod, Obama, et al. are employing a classic troll tactic: pick a fight to steer the conversation away from an embarrassing topic.

What better way to steer attention away from the jobs situation, Obama's dithering over Afghanistan, the continuing embarrassment of his appointments, the ACORN FUBAR, the impending health care train wreck, and so on, than to pick a fight with Fox? Fox will happily talk about itself rather than Obama, the MSM will cluck their tongues at Fox while making the occasional comment about the unseemliness of it all -- and all the while, Obama can quietly carry on with his screwing of the nation.

Not a bad move on Axelrod's part.


Posted by: Brown Line at October 20, 2009 02:37 PM (VrNoa)

183 High school debater's trick. "Poisoning the well": if Fox News says it, it's untrustworthy right-wingnut propaganda, even if (especially if) it's true.

Posted by: stuiec at October 20, 2009 02:46 PM (ohnkX)

184 How now, Brown Mao?
Posted by: runningrn at October 20, 2009 01:54 PM (4R2pO)

Now that's funny right there, I don't care who you are.

Posted by: Booter at October 20, 2009 02:48 PM (eimUK)

185 185, yeah I've been seeing Faux News in web forums for almost a decade now.
This Limbaugh is racist thing isn't new either.

Posted by: Scott J. at October 20, 2009 02:49 PM (/bVuS)

186 "Playing against Tiger Woods, President Barack Obama sank five eagles andfour holes-in-one today, breaking the previous "front nine" record held by Kim Jong-Il."

Posted by: AP, Reuters, CNN feeds at October 20, 2009 02:54 PM (k6cRx)

187 Trying to stay focused on one issue with this administration is like trying to pick out one bird in a covey of quails.

Posted by: harleycowboy at October 20, 2009 02:56 PM (JKGfQ)

188 172 the story at Phil's #131 post is a hoax. THere's no flagrantly untruthful" claim in the "Decency" Act.
Posted by: moron # 56432 at October 20, 2009 02:20 PM (p1s9n)
The sad thing is that it's entirely believable. It's just the kind of shit Obama would pull. When parody becomes fact, you know we're screwed....like with Obama's 'election'.

Posted by: SFC MAC at October 20, 2009 02:57 PM (cuNX0)

189 @ 131 138
i won't waste bandwidth visitinghufpo to see where they are getting their info from with regard to this, but it sounds like bullshit, so i'll just dismiss it out of hand....thought hussien was a constitutional scholar? maybe he has yet to read the 1st amendment.

Posted by: ugly kid joe at October 20, 2009 03:03 PM (qGR8d)

190 Posted by: ugly kid joe at October 20, 2009 03:03 PM (qGR8d)

Wouldn't it make sense that if you want to destroy the constitution, the best suited to do it would be a constitutional scholar with unlimited power?

Posted by: Booter at October 20, 2009 03:06 PM (eimUK)

191 Faux New is ruining journalism. I, on the other hand, am an authentic journalist who prides myself on my own self-thought and originality. Now, I have to prepare my Worst Person in the World list (that I stole). So, good night, and good luck (which I also stole).

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at October 20, 2009 03:07 PM (V9SYy)

192 I do the best I can to combat Faux News. I am sure all 13 of my viewers never watch Faux News.

Posted by: David Schuster at October 20, 2009 03:08 PM (V9SYy)

193 I think the reasoning in the post is correct. I also think it's moronic because the MSM already ignores (or diminishes the best they can) anything that reflects poorly on Obama.

This strategy only bleeds off support from lefty media types who now feel used, and draws attention to the oh-so-horrible things Faux Noise ™ is saying about the Administration.

Classic case of losing control by seeking too much of it. For supra-geniuses, these guys sure are a bunch of dumbasses.

Posted by: Bust of Churchill at October 20, 2009 03:14 PM (8/DeP)

194 But, I love Nixon. Saying BAMA is like him just is not true. Nixon ahd his shortcomings and did some thigns that he should not have. He did not seek to make this a communist nation with no individual rights.

Posted by: rightzilla at October 20, 2009 03:18 PM (rVJH4)

195 The funny thing is that the comparison will sail over the heads of all
the Nixon-hating douchebags who voted for him. (That would include my
own parents, who would have been livid if Nixon had ever done such a
thing as stooping to to vent prejudice against a news network.)

Does that NPR douche Daniel Schorr still punctuate at least every third sentence with a mention that he used to be on Nixon's "enemies list"? It probably doesn't occur to that senile cocksucker that demonizing a whole network is a bit more extreme and contrary to the principles of freedom.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2009 03:39 PM (oObEM)

196 Amateurism! Now that Bams has put their manipulation of the "news" media out in the open, the news media will be forced to show that they are not enchanted.

Posted by: PJ at October 20, 2009 03:41 PM (FyuxG)

197 The funny thing in all this is that Fox News was created because the other networks were so biased towards liberals. One network in a sea of liberal kow-tows and it's suddenly a threat. FN's creation basically gave the go ahead for the other networks to drop all pretenses.
However, now we have a president so thin-skinned, we can see right through him. So of course, he needs the isulation of these worshipping networks. One light shining on and through him and he freaks out. Only problem - by attacking Fox as an example to his sycophants, he is really creating a situation that unsettles the followers. They must be thinking at the back of thier minds, "Hey, if he would shut down Fox, we're next."
One can only hope that they really get it and start to fight back. I'm not holding out - Tapper and Thomas might get it, but the rest of them seem to be all too happy to go along with the gag. After all, if Fox is gone, they might gain some viewers.

Posted by: soulpile at October 20, 2009 03:50 PM (gH+Hj)

198 Oh, man. Palin is going on The Oprah.
I'm not so sure that'sa good idea. We need to quit treating people like Opra as if they matter.

Posted by: Scott J. at October 20, 2009 03:52 PM (/bVuS)

199 You can't stop FOX News, you can only hope to contain it.

Posted by: All your taxes are mine at October 20, 2009 03:53 PM (FhPAC)

200 It's surprising people didn't figure this out from the very beginning. People on the internet, bloggers and those of us who read blogs all day, tend to forget that most people out there don't read blogs. Most people have no idea who Andrew Breibart is and have never been to one of his websites. Without Fox News, Breibart is just another conservative blogger.

Of course the White House had to give the other networks an excuse to not pick up Fox News stories. Not that they needed another one, but when the Charlie Gibson's of the MSM can't blame their incompetence on "the cables" in general, they can claim Fox News isn't worth taking seriously.

What is really hysterical about it is that all these news organizations have already been made fools of by arguably the most derided paper in history. The National Enquirer and it's John Edwards coverage. But, then again, how many people really know that?

Posted by: Jaynie59 at October 20, 2009 03:54 PM (YjQWV)

201 Lemme know when Glenn Beck scoops a story that any other media outlet would want. That'd be impressive.


Posted by: Palooka at October 20, 2009 03:55 PM (f54BU)

202 Fox news is not a legitimate news organization.Unlike myself who promotes the cause of well creased pants everywhere from sea to shining sea. Creased pants are rare; they can to be too fair or too dark, too wide or too fit, too long or too short. They deserve hacks to promote them.

Posted by: David Brooks at October 20, 2009 03:56 PM (SE2xN)

203 #203

Glenn Beck is not a journalist.

Oh, but, have you ever heard of Van Jones? Just askin'. Boldly.

Posted by: Jaynie59 at October 20, 2009 03:58 PM (YjQWV)

204 One can only hope that they really get it and start to fight back. I'm
not holding out - Tapper and Thomas might get it, but the rest of them
seem to be all too happy to go along with the gag. After all, if Fox
is gone, they might gain some viewers.

Well that and they aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. I never get tired of reminding people about that dinner of all the journos when Wanda Sykes sounded like an idiot: Il Douche was making a speech and said something to the effect that "you all voted for me" and there wasn't even nervous laughter over him pointing that out. Even having a rudimentary sense of objectivity would recognize that having everybody in a group mind-meld is not a good situation to encourage when covering a concentration of political power. But they're too goddamned stupid to figure that out.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2009 03:59 PM (oObEM)

205 Does Billy Beer come in juiceboxes?

Posted by: Tim the Enchanter at October 20, 2009 04:00 PM (izA2D)

206 Funny, those other MSM networks use to have ratings before they started shilling for Obama and predecessors.

What message is the White House tying to send here- that unless the "news" is manufactured by them and Chairman Obama it's not fit to print?

Yes, it's a winning ratings formula guffawing at Obama and Co.'s jokes about the opposition, printing their press releases as Gospel, slobbering with admiration over appointees and defending their contra intellectual positions with Obama-Zombies on Sunday shows.

Perhaps the alphabet networks will one day remember they are a business which needs to make money for shareholders, like Fox.

Posted by: Marcus Traianus at October 20, 2009 04:03 PM (9hDVG)

207 Tapper on the real story. "So why do you think you have the right to tell us what to think about another news organization? and why shouldnt we and everyone else be suspicious of your motives for doing so?"
Gibbs looks down, toes carpet. Prentends to drop pen. Crawls backwards out of the breifing room.
God I wish I where in the Whitehouse press corp.
Gibbs: "Its our opinion"
Me: "Okay, so what's next Movie Reviews?"
Why the press in not ritually humiliatingGibbs over this is beyond belief.They will never have as open a free shot on any press secratry or adminstration - ever! This goes directly to the press's own bread and butter . . . they must by stupid, lazy or just plain scared . . .

Posted by: joe at October 20, 2009 04:20 PM (YwBI6)

208 Obama has spent more time planning the War on Fox than the War in Afghanistan

Posted by: eating narcissus at October 20, 2009 04:23 PM (SE2xN)

209 Bammy needs a "Don't Do That Czar" who will tell him when something is incandescently stupid.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 20, 2009 04:27 PM (p05LM)

210 I am a goob. I am such a goob. A stiff. Even I can't stand me.

Posted by: David Schuster at October 20, 2009 04:31 PM (wAQA5)

211 At first glance I wondered why the media would not get its hackles up over having someone from the government trying to tell them what to do, as well they should. It would seem like this would provoke some blowback even from the hard coreliberals who would want to protect their turf.
But thenI remembered the rule of thumb to use when I am puzzledat something liberals do. It is that when in doubt, liberalism trumps EVERYTHING. They don't love Obama dictating to them and they may grumble a bit. Butviewed through the liberal prism, his success is more important to them than being doormats in this particular instance.
Liberals can do twenty different things that involvetotally inconsistent viewpoints to any rational person, but there is always, always, this one common theme.

Posted by: RM at October 20, 2009 04:33 PM (GkYyh)

212 If you are the liberal in the press corp the humiliates Gibbs and adminon a LEGITIMATE point - you will instantly becomehead and shoulders above your peers as the onewilling to speakTRUTH TO POWER! Itsa reporters dream cometrue - and they actually have it right in front of them for the taking!!

Posted by: joe at October 20, 2009 04:42 PM (YwBI6)

213 Its looking right at them with its pink pudgey face and tiny pig like eyes - ready to squeal at the first poke for God's sake.

Posted by: joe at October 20, 2009 04:43 PM (YwBI6)

214 Actually, Fox did sort of fight back last night in a commercial for the network that aired about 6 pm here on the west coast. It was pretty long and it had every foreign correspondent they have getting shot at, dodging bombs, running around explosions, etc. When it was over whoever's show it was just sort of stared into the camera fora second and saidsomething like "not a new organization?" It was hilarious.
In other news, Van Jones is considering a run for mayor of Oakland.

Posted by: Scott at October 20, 2009 04:44 PM (Hi7LL)

215 FOXNews is the only network reporting a lot of news these days.

Van Jones.
ACORN.
Tea Parties.
Anita Dunn and Chairman Mao.

They should add a new tagline.

FOXNews: ALL the News!

Posted by: Z Ryan at October 20, 2009 04:48 PM (cMo6P)

216 211Bammy needs a "Don't Do That Czar" who will tell him when something is incandescently stupid.

He has one of those. In his bathroom. He looks at it every morning as he shaves.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 20, 2009 04:55 PM (ohnkX)

217 192Wouldn't it make sense that if you want to destroy the constitution, the best suited to do it would be a constitutional scholar with unlimited power?
"Constitutional scholar"? Hee, hee.
He's about as much a constitutional scholar as he was the editor of the Harvard Law Review. Calling himself one and getting everyone around him to call him one doesn't make him one.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 20, 2009 05:03 PM (ohnkX)

218 He's about as much a constitutional scholar as he was the editor of the
Harvard Law Review. Calling himself one and getting everyone around
him to call him one doesn't make him one.

Obama's a constitutional scholar in the way that Bernie Madoff is an expert in investing.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 20, 2009 06:08 PM (T0NGe)

219 He's not a real president. Not like George W. Bush was a real president. And I don't think you should treat him like one.

Posted by: The Anti-Axelrod at October 20, 2009 06:23 PM (ejHeB)

220 A White House attempt to delegitimize Fox News – which in past times
would have drawn howls of censorship from the press corps – has instead
been greeted by a collective shrug.

Since the rest of the TV media gets its ass kicked by Fox I'm guessing they are willing to do anything to bring down Fox.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 20, 2009 06:31 PM (+qJ04)

221 This could end up reallyisolating Fox News- at the top of the ratings forever.

Posted by: drjohn at October 20, 2009 06:38 PM (HXRkG)

222 White House Attack on FoxNews Really About KeepingProviding Leftwing Media from Covering PlausibleDenial of BiasWhen TheyIgnore Any of Their Scoops
Fixed that title for ya.

Posted by: sherlock at October 20, 2009 06:39 PM (N7uu0)

223 Sweet Jeebus. Mort Kondracke is slamming Odumshit for promising to be a unifier and then demonizing the Chamber of Commerce. Bill Kristol sounds like the lib on Baer's panel.

Posted by: Reiver at October 20, 2009 06:56 PM (q1zgR)

224 Obama is the constitution scholar of pant creases. Lovely splattering dithering withering pant creases. I wish to relish those sweet well creased pants that mutter Niebuhr. And I am just a hack!

Posted by: David Brooks at October 20, 2009 07:13 PM (4FkTt)

225 This is damage control for what is about to drop. For some ungodly reason I haven't seen anyone talk of a statement Beck made last week.

He said he was working on something that could bring down the administration. So far Beck hasn't bluffed. What a coinkidink the 9 fingered ballerina and combover came out to bash Fox and told their press bitches to stay away.

Because when Beck drops the big bomb it will look like, in their beedy, little progressive minds that Fox is lashing back with some scandal. My 2 cents. Keep up the good work Ace.

Posted by: USMC at October 20, 2009 07:36 PM (wDAko)

226 Also, to bust out 9 fingered ballerina and combover tells me that Valerie Jarret and Anita Mao Say Dunn have dropped the ball.

Their ranks are being thinned. IMHO. So the bosses have to take up the slack.

Are we in a cold civil war?

Posted by: USMC at October 20, 2009 07:41 PM (wDAko)

227
High school debater's trick.

Figures. We've got a High School President

Posted by: joh at October 20, 2009 08:42 PM (jgwoG)

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Posted by: jason at October 20, 2009 09:46 PM (TT3ZK)

229 President O'Dumbo orders the Fringe (former MSM) media to pass on covering the news and ABC,CBS,CNN, and NBC bow and scrape they're knees on the way out while saying 'yes master'. That makes all of them 'non-news' organizations. Kind of like Pravda but worse. I think I heard the sucking sound from pucker mouth Andrea Mitchell all the way down in Southwest Va.

Posted by: Scrapiron at October 20, 2009 10:25 PM (1kwr2)

230 Lemme know when Glenn Beck scoops a story that any other media outlet would want. That'd be impressive.

I actually laughed out loud.

Posted by: toby928 at October 21, 2009 08:46 PM (PD1tk)






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