Racism Watch: Chris Matthews Calls Rush Limbaugh Black

Comparing him to Yaphet Kotto, the villain in the Bond flick Live and Let Die, and opining that he'd like to see Rush Limbaugh die in a similar fashion.

This from a guy who just a few weeks ago was ranting about the undercurrents of incitement to political violence on the right wing, just the same way the right wing was talking up violence in 1963. (He forgot to mention that while there was indeed dark talk of violence by the right in '63, Kennedy was in fact killed by Marxist/Soviet-emigrant Lee Harvey Oswald. Must have slipped his mind.)

But talking about the murder of Rush Limbaugh? Just good, insightful political commentary.

Incidentally, that whole "racist" thing in the headline? Yeah. Not the dumbest racism charge of the day. Seems Tammy Bruce wanted a funny picture to illustrate a post about Obama getting the Nobel Prize, so she put up one of a raccoon digging in a Cracker Jack box.

Raccoon. Raccoon. Don't you see? Don't you see the racism?

Well the brain trust at Sadly, No! did. (Above link is to Patterico, goofing on them.)

Thanks to DrewM.

Oh: Rush's "Slavery" Comment. The left has been claiming that Rush once said (years ago) that slavery had its benefits -- including that it was "safe to walk the streets at night," or something along those lines.

When I read that, I figured that that was Rush doing that irony thing -- taking his opponents' claims to their logical conclusion, to show the stupidity of them; irony that liberal critics alway seem to fail to comprehend.

I didn't realize that there was another explanation -- that the "Limbaugh remarks" are simply invented out of whole cloth.

O'Reilly's research team can find no evidence of these remarks -- no audio, no contemporaneous reportage of them -- except the left's own unsourced claims about something they all claim happened twenty years ago. The only citation for this claim seems to be the left all quoting each other's assertions about it.

They seem to have simply made it up.

This possibility -- that the left is simply lying ad making stuff up -- rarely occurs to me. I usually assume that there's a kernel of truth here; they may be twisting it, but there's still some truth in their claims.

I don't know why I assume that. I guess I just assume that no one is malicious or stupid enough to simply invent libelous claims.

But the left never fails to disappoint.

Thanks to RobertE.

More: The Left actually has a pattern of inventing "Limbaugh quotes," inserting them into WikiQuote, and then citing their own made-up WikiQuote entries as evidence of Limbaugh's supposed racism.

This blog provides a case study of this behavior -- some guy simply making up a "Limbaugh quote" from 1998 -- in 2005 -- stating that MLKJr's assassin should have been awarded a Congressional Medal of Honor, and wishing him "Godspeed."

Um, in 1998, Rush Limbaugh was huge. If he had said this someone would have noticed. A quote praising MLK Jr's assassin would, I'm pretty sure, have made it into one of Al Franken's moronbooks.

But Wiki itself is so politicized that despite clear evidence this was entirely fabricated by some internet loser, they will only go so far as to say the quote is "DISPUTED."

Disputed. Absolutely zero evidence it was ever said, and lots of evidence it was simply fabricated, and the best we get out of Wiki is "DISPUTED."


MSNBC Peddles: MSNBC couldn't track down the quote, of course, it being made up out of whole cloth.

Did that stop them from running it? No, of course not -- they quoted linebacker James Farrior mentioning it, running the quote on screen, with the "citation" "Cited by James Farrior."

Cited. See, they're not saying Limbaugh said it -- they're saying someone else says he said it.

That's "journalism" now at MSNBC -- quote things you know for a fact aren't quotes at all and dodge your fact-checking by just noting a linebacker "cited" the claim.

That "cited by James Farrior" is evidence of MSNBC's guilty knowledge -- it's plain they attempted to find a citation for the claim. It's also clear that they came up empty.

So rather than debunking the claim, or just not reporting it all, they report that someone else claims it was said. And offer the word "cited" in the supposed attribution to give the quote some kind of superficial authority.

But you know, FoxNews is biased and stuff, and used to run the outrageous shorthand quote of Al Gore's -- "I invented the internet" -- when he said nothing of the kind.

He merely said "During my time in Congress, I took the initiative in creating the internet." Completely different, you see.

Posted by: Ace at 03:05 PM



Comments

1 Racoon-loving wingnuts.

Posted by: Sharmoota at October 13, 2009 03:08 PM (sey23)

2 Eh, that was a Roger Moore Bond flick. Subpar at best, though it did have Jane Seymour (if memory serves).

Posted by: joncelli at October 13, 2009 03:10 PM (RD7QR)

3 This is what happens when you let other people define your "intention" in what you say. They get to play all sorts of not nice games. It won't be long now before someone gets a split lip when they give "intention" to wrong persons words.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at October 13, 2009 03:11 PM (zK6l1)

4 Amazing. Matthews guest-hosted for Rush in theLewinsky-Clinton era.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at October 13, 2009 03:13 PM (SCcgT)

5 This is all as a result of the coordinated smear campaign by the mass media journalists and by sports journalists, based on finding out that Rush is part of a group thinking about buying the St Louis Rams.

I've written about it here: ESPNs Racist Michael Wilbon Proves PTI Stands for Pardon the Ignorance

There is also a blog which has exposed many of the quotes attributed to Rush as flat out made up out of whole cloth: You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray Quotation attributed to Rush Limbaugh is a damnable lie

The same guy who made up the above quote also made up this one:

I mean, lets face it, we didnt have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. Im not saying we should bring it back; Im just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.[3/14/03] Rush on slavery.

Yep, made it up out of whole cloth, but expert journalists like Michael Wilbon and many others ran with that quote as an example of Rush being a racist and justifying Blacks universally reviling Rush.

Yet, despite this, the mass media and numerous sports journalists ran with these made up quotes and smeared Rush as a racist and extreme.

Rush is going after them with legal action, demanding they source the quotes or issue retractions.

Posted by: Michael in MI at October 13, 2009 03:13 PM (ObTcs)

6 Does this Tammy Bruce "controversy" mean that we can have another Patterico v. Goldstein fight over "intent" and "avoiding offense"?

'Cause I love a good blog fight. Helps to pass the time until the end of the work day.

Posted by: Jack M. at October 13, 2009 03:13 PM (Ncr1R)

7 Aren't people getting tired of the left flinging "racist" around? The left makes a living looking for transgressions. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. But to the left, everything is racist. Unless, of course, it really is racist and is perpetrated by a lefty.

Posted by: wherestherum at October 13, 2009 03:14 PM (GZnia)

8 I'd say what I'd like to see happen to Matthews, but it's so grotesque that it's not appropriate for a fine blog such as this. Instead, I invite you to insert any horrible disease or accident commonly and frequently wished upon Bush and others by the amoebas at DU, Kos or Huffpo.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at October 13, 2009 03:14 PM (554T5)

9 I'm waiting for Matthews to make like Mr. Creosote and splatter the four corners of his studio with his bloated innards. One moretiny little tingle ought to do it.

Posted by: stuiec at October 13, 2009 03:15 PM (7AOgy)

10 Instead, I invite you to insert any horrible disease or accident commonly and frequently wished upon Bush and others by the amoebas at DU, Kos or Huffpo.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at October 13, 2009 03:14 PM (554T5)
He already has it, he's a liberal.

Posted by: robtr at October 13, 2009 03:17 PM (/1QEK)

11 NFL - "Hey. McCarthey wasn't such a bad guy. He had some good ideas. He was just before his time - you know - before conservatives were the bad guys."

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at October 13, 2009 03:18 PM (RkRxq)

12 "RobertE?" As in Robert E. LEE?


Racist!

Posted by: . at October 13, 2009 03:18 PM (gQLr2)

13 This is what happens when you let other people define your "intention"
in what you say. They get to play all sorts of not nice games. It
won't be long now before someone gets a split lip when they give
"intention" to wrong persons words.

Or worse.

Posted by: Christopher Calandro at October 13, 2009 03:18 PM (JdbYk)

14 I have but one thing to say to all this:



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Posted by: Bizarro Racist Pixel at October 13, 2009 03:19 PM (C3uAX)

15 He already has it, he's a liberal.

That wasn't my point.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at October 13, 2009 03:19 PM (554T5)

16 Love that movie. Had one of the best lines not said by Bond:
"Only one man can pull together that much black muscle in this town. Calls himself Mr Big."

Posted by: Roy at October 13, 2009 03:19 PM (cB77O)

17 2
Eh, that was a Roger Moore Bond flick. Subpar at best

Yeah, in retrospect, pretty much all of the Moore films are unwatchable. I do like For Your Eyes Only, but that's about it.

Posted by: Y-not at October 13, 2009 03:19 PM (sey23)

18 Yet, despite this, the mass media and numerous sports journalists ran with these made up quotes and smeared Rush as a racist and extreme.
He did make a great point today, that if he had actually said these things it would have been major news when he said them. One of these fabrications was supposedly said by him in 1998; had he said it, the Clinton War Room would have blasted it all over the press. If he had said these things years ago, how is it that they are just coming to light in 2009? It's not like he's some unknown, he's got the #1 radio show and he's on 15 hours a week.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 13, 2009 03:19 PM (sXLx/)

19 The truth is racist.

Posted by: Dr. Crabington (not a real doctor, or crab) at October 13, 2009 03:19 PM (pEaV5)

20 Tactics taken from the Joseph Stalin (Nobel Laureate-1930 for non-aggression pact with Nazi Germany) playbook.

Posted by: Uniball at October 13, 2009 03:20 PM (27iEn)

21 That "quote" from Limbaugh reminds me of the one they made up about the guy that Palin tried to appoint as Attorney General (I think), who used to be a newspaper columnist. They said his quote was "if you can't rape your wife, who can you rape". Of course, no one can produce anything where he wrote it, and he immediately denied he ever said it when it was first presented to him.

They make stuff up. Of course they make stuff up. If you like your coverage, you can keep your coverage.

Posted by: libbyt at October 13, 2009 03:20 PM (W4T+b)

22 "Amazing. Matthews guest-hosted for Rush in theLewinsky-Clinton era."

I don't remember that but I wouldn't be surprised. I liked Matthews back then - he was hell on OJ.

I do remember that Rush was plenty outrageous 20 years ago. Not anything like today. He's a pussycat now. I first heard him in 1991 when I was driving through Cali. I thought he was hilarious but he would say anything. But it was still irony. He had a mass of very docile and unaware people to wake up.


Posted by: cassandra at October 13, 2009 03:21 PM (GdalM)

23 I think this is the perfect occasion to sue. Limbaugh should get these guy's nuts. Put the damages at the cost of buying the NFL team. Demand scalps. Apologies aren't enough, editors and writers need to get fired. humiliated.

Posted by: joeindc44 at October 13, 2009 03:21 PM (QxSug)

24 Let Me be clear,I would never spread such a lie about that racist wanting to bring back slavery, even though he does. I read it on the internet, somewhere, so it must be true. So sayeth your Saviour!

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 13, 2009 03:22 PM (VmtE9)

25 Ace,

I posted about this on ONT yesterday. Newbusters had an article on it http://www.tinyurl.com/yhwuh7w

MSNBC sourced the quote. And the unimpeachable source was? Middle Line Backer for the Pittsburgh Steelers James Farrior.
That's right. They took a quote, not from Rush's show's transcript or audio files, but from the memory of a football player

Posted by: Ben at October 13, 2009 03:22 PM (wuv1c)

26 Seriously. If you're going to wish a Yaphet Kotto Deathtm upon your political adversaries, shouldn't it be Mr. Kotto's death in Alien that would be the best (worst) you could hope for?

Posted by: Sharkman at October 13, 2009 03:23 PM (prBaA)

27 Aren't people getting tired of the left flinging "racist" around? The left makes a living looking for transgressions. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. But to the left, everything is racist. Unless, of course, it really is racist and is perpetrated by a lefty.
i would if you weren't such a racist

Posted by: Ben at October 13, 2009 03:23 PM (wuv1c)

28 Everyone knows Conservatives are racists; it's common knowledge which is drummed into the heads of everyone with a pulse 24/7. Conservatism and racism are inseparable. Because Rush Limbaugh is a popular Conservative spokesman, he can be assumed to be racist by all correct-thinking people. Actually listening to him is unnecessary.

Conservative = racist
Conservative = racist
Conservative = racist
Conservative = racist

/Liberal propagandist mode off

Posted by: Pyrocles at October 13, 2009 03:24 PM (xzSvW)

29 Let Me be clear,I would never spread such a lie about that racist wanting to bring back slavery, even though he does. I read it on the internet, somewhere, so it must be true. So sayeth your Saviour!
Reading is racist, and so, by extention...Barack Obama is racist!

Posted by: Mr. Crabington at October 13, 2009 03:24 PM (pEaV5)

30 18

He did make a great point today, that if he had actually said these things it would have been major news when he said them. One of these fabrications was supposedly said by him in 1998; had he said it, the Clinton War Room would have blasted it all over the press. If he had said these things years ago, how is it that they are just coming to light in 2009? It's not like he's some unknown, he's got the #1 radio show and he's on 15 hours a week.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 13, 2009 03:19 PM

Exactly. I was listening when he said that and it is a great point. And a blatantly obvious one to anyone with half a brain. So, there are two conclusions about people like Michael Wilbon and others who ran with these quotes:

(1) They don't have half a brain
(2) They knew it was patently absurd for Rush to have said this and it not to have been known until now, yet they wanted to smear him, so they knowingly used a false quote to back their anti-Rush smear campaign.

Rush has a list of every journalist and sports journalist who has spread these quotes around as attributed to Rush. I'm going to make a blog post when he posts it and call them all out as hacks who have absolutely NO credibility anymore.

These assholes want to his us, well I'm going to hit them back twice as hard, just as my President told me to do.

Posted by: Michael in MI at October 13, 2009 03:24 PM (ObTcs)

31 Chris Mathews' face is a fist magnet. Can't watch or hear his mewling, scabrous catcher's mitt face anymore.

He is as useful as tits on a boar hog.


Posted by: sifty at October 13, 2009 03:24 PM (XqakI)

32 Isn't Chris Matthews a pig-f***er? I could've sworn Terrence and Philip made a movie about that one time. May or may not be true, but it probably is. It's what I remember and the way I like to remember it.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 13, 2009 03:24 PM (C3uAX)

33 You wouldn't expect a Lefty to have a raccoon for a pet - not after the attack on the granny in FL The Left is screaming for their hated police to defend them from raccoon attacks, while pulling up their pant waists, and acting out with their purses.
Breaking News: Obama to hold talks with raccoons. Another Nobel sure to follow.

Posted by: MDr at October 13, 2009 03:25 PM (ucq49)

34 oh, isn't this an incitement to violence?

Rush should call the police on Matthews.

Posted by: joeindc44 at October 13, 2009 03:25 PM (QxSug)

35 yeah wikipedia is a joke, they banned my IP because i said jimmy carter's biggest domestic accomplishment was that timehe was able to fit 3 tennis balls into his mouth at one time.
internet facists

Posted by: Ben at October 13, 2009 03:26 PM (wuv1c)

36 "Amazing. Matthews guest-hosted for Rush in theLewinsky-Clinton era."

Someone check the transcript--maybe those are Matthews' remarks. (Everything a lefty accuses conservatives of doing is something they do or want to do themselves.)

Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 13, 2009 03:27 PM (NtiET)

37 i would if you weren't such a racist
Your comment and this post is racist. You racist.

Posted by: wherestherum at October 13, 2009 03:27 PM (GZnia)

38
Chris Mathews' face is a fist magnet. Can't watch or hear his mewling, scabrous catcher's mitt face anymore.

the germans have a word for it, Backpfeifengesicht

Posted by: Ben at October 13, 2009 03:28 PM (wuv1c)

39 And Yaphet Kotto was kick ass in The Longest Yard, Brubaker, and every damn movie he was in.

Way better than that commie pussy Danny Glover.

Posted by: sifty at October 13, 2009 03:28 PM (XqakI)

40 Does this Tammy Bruce "controversy" mean that we can have another Patterico v. Goldstein fight over "intent" and "avoiding offense"?
The one that "ended" with Patterico pretending to get a "death threat" from Goldstein and banning him from his site?
The one that continues only in the form of Patterico still tossing out Mean Girls insults in his own comment threads?
Yes, more that, please. We're not sure Patterico's a little puling bitch yet.
We need that, LGF links, and pictures of Obama's tits.

Posted by: oblig. at October 13, 2009 03:28 PM (E5Oz5)

41 Someone said it already, but it really is an indicator of how poisonous the rhetorical climate has become that a guy that used to be invited to guest host the show is now goofing on the thought of someone murdering Limbaugh. Is this a ratings thing? Trying to finnagle a mention on Rush's show to boost the numbers? What the hell could Rush have possibly done or said to merit that kind of venom from a guy he clearly used to be friendly with?
These clowns can't go off the air soon enough.

Posted by: Fred at October 13, 2009 03:28 PM (gVdZN)

42 MSNBC sourced the quote. And the unimpeachable source was? Middle Line Backer for the Pittsburgh Steelers James Farrior.

Next Squeelers game Rush goes to, he should wear that jersey, just to see the heads explode.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 13, 2009 03:29 PM (NtiET)

43 i would if you weren't such a racistYour comment and this post is racist. You racist.
you think i don't notice that 98 percent of this website is in the color white and only about 1 percent in black?
We need a color quota here

Posted by: Ben at October 13, 2009 03:29 PM (wuv1c)

44 23 I think this is the perfect occasion to sue. Limbaugh should get these guy's nuts. Put the damages at the cost of buying the NFL team. Demand scalps. Apologies aren't enough, editors and writers need to get fired. humiliated.

Posted by: joeindc44 at October 13, 2009 03:21 PM

Hell-flucking-yeah. 100% agreed. These assholes have needed to have their asses sued for a long time now for all their lies.

And ace, I respect you and enjoy this site immensely, but I have to say that this is probably, in my opinion, your only flaw:

This possibility -- that the left is simply lying ad making stuff up -- rarely occurs to me. I usually assume that there's a kernel of truth here; they may be twisting it, but there's still some truth in their claims.

I don't know why I assume that. I guess I just assume that no one is malicious or stupid enough to simply invent libelous claims.

After the last 8 years of the mass media doing this, including the TANG memos, I really think you go out of your way to give credit to the Left where it has not been earned. They have been making shit up out of whole cloth for years.

TANG memos, Fauxtography, etc. This is not an exception to the rule, this has been SOP for years.

Hell, think back to Vietnam, when they deliberately lied about The Tet Offensive. This is nothing new.

Posted by: Michael in MI at October 13, 2009 03:29 PM (ObTcs)

45 Eh, Matthews is just jealous that despite what the left tries to do, or maybe because of it, Rush just keeps getting more and more popular. The left and the WH for that matter, are really stupid in this regard. The more attention they pay to conservative talk show hosts, the more popular these hosts get..

Posted by: IC at October 13, 2009 03:30 PM (jZNCU)

46 "Amazing. Matthews guest-hosted for Rush in theLewinsky-Clinton era."
actually i know this sounds crazy, but Matthews used to be a reasonable democrat. I mean he clearly didn't agree with anyone on the right, but he was civil, less civil than say juan williams, but at the very least he was reasonable. Something happened (read:2000 election), that just made him snap and go insane. actually it happened to a lot of people after that election.

Posted by: Ben at October 13, 2009 03:30 PM (wuv1c)

47 We need a new guy.

Stuff Jefferson Said = Stuff Rush Said.

Posted by: troll at October 13, 2009 03:30 PM (AQj/2)

48 For the charyge of inciting murdere and sectarian violence, Chris Matthewes shall be:
Impaled upon a stake non-lethally for a three hour periode,
Taken downe from said stake and revivyd by the application of three buckets of briney water,
Heated rods shall be applyed to Chris Matthewes genitals, anus, and tongue for a time of 330 secondes.
Finally, Matthewes innards will be torne from his body and burned in front of him.

Posted by: Proclamation from King Harold I at October 13, 2009 03:30 PM (P33XN)

49 Play nice, remember?

Posted by: Pelvis at October 13, 2009 03:31 PM (LlaBi)

50 Live and Let Die.
Pretty forgettable film, except for that spooky Baron Samedi. Played by that seven-foot tall dancer who did the UnCola-Nuts commercials for 7-Up. Name?
Geoffrey Holder.
coincidenceohithinknot.

Posted by: comatus at October 13, 2009 03:31 PM (+Fcaz)

51 Squeelers
as a pittsburgher i find this derogatory comment to be racist. How could it be taken any other way?

Posted by: Ben at October 13, 2009 03:31 PM (wuv1c)

52 I just realize that I must be a racist. I don't have a raccoon, but my dog is a tri-color collie (she has a black mask) and my favorite cats are Siameses (also have masks).

I denounce myself!

Posted by: Y-not at October 13, 2009 03:31 PM (sey23)

53 23
I think this is the perfect occasion to sue. Limbaugh should get these
guy's nuts. Put the damages at the cost of buying the NFL team.
Demand scalps. Apologies aren't enough, editors and writers need to
get fired. humiliated.

If he waits just a little longer he might have $500,000,000 in provable damages. He might end up with a football team and a couple of newspapers and TV stations.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 13, 2009 03:32 PM (IqfKc)

54 Chris Mathews' face is a fist magnet

His ass, too.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 13, 2009 03:33 PM (NtiET)

55 Wow, Rush must have scored a hit in the NBC interview! Look at vitriol coming from the lefties.

Posted by: Jim R. at October 13, 2009 03:33 PM (cnJbK)

56 Think about it, this slander was first published by a newspaper and it spread to the talkies. The bad thing about slander is that repeating it, even in discussing it, furthers the slander. These publications are already in dire financial straights. Looking down the barrel of a $850 million dollar law suit where their employees published an obviously false, unsubstantiated charge...

brutal.

Imagine, MSNBC being forced to fire Matthews in exchange for no damages being sought.

Posted by: joeindc44 at October 13, 2009 03:33 PM (QxSug)

57 Imagine, MSNBC being forced to fire Matthews in exchange for no damages being sought.
why would you want him, olbermann or maddow fired. They benefit us more than they do the left.

Posted by: Ben at October 13, 2009 03:34 PM (wuv1c)

58 The left's cries of 'racism' are always used in a quite un-niggardly fashion.

Posted by: negentropy at October 13, 2009 03:34 PM (27KAF)

59 Didn't Chris Matthews once say that the internment of Americans of Japanesse heritage in California during WWII was a good idea? I don't know if he did, but if you all would like to quote me, well, feel free.

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 13, 2009 03:34 PM (V9SYy)

60 #48:

I'm pretty sure your local ACORN office can organize and offer up any of those services to Mr. Mathews.

Posted by: sifty at October 13, 2009 03:34 PM (XqakI)

61 Rush needs to sue the papers and channels these jerks work for, and for sue them for millions. I am sick and tired of watching theliberals lookinnocent while the media does their dirty work for them. Make it hurt, and it will stop. And I hope Sarah Palin does the same thing.

Posted by: sherlock at October 13, 2009 03:37 PM (ZrS0c)

62 why would you want him, olbermann or maddow fired. They benefit us more than they do the left.
Because some of us enjoy watching others suffer. In this case, the others would be Matthews, Olbermann, Maddow and the Kos Kids. My alarm clock plays a recording of their wails when Bush was re-elected. The pain in their voice ensures that I wake up in a good mood.

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 13, 2009 03:37 PM (V9SYy)

63 I know we can't call them Nazis (yet) but at what point do we accept the fact that they are totalitarian thugs and not legitimate poltical opponents?

Posted by: flenser at October 13, 2009 03:39 PM (mruUD)

64 22

I do remember that Rush was plenty outrageous 20 years ago. Not anything like today. He's a pussycat now. I first heard him in 1991 when I was driving through Cali. I thought he was hilarious but he would say anything.

Posted by: cassandra at October 13, 2009 03:21 PM

Rush has told the story of when he first started out, he stated that he believed that it should be illegal for women to be farding while driving. (Farding being the application of makeup). Well, of course, it sounded like he was saying "farting while driving" (which he did deliberately to tweak the feminazis). And, sure enough, all the feminazis got their panties in a bunch and came out lambasting Limbaugh for his 'outrageous sexist remarks!'

He got the last laugh when he explained what is farding. heheh

He also gets the last laugh in that the Left's smearing of him gains him more listeners. A good friend of mine from Ford, she said she decided to find out about this Rush Limbaugh person after she heard he was some big sexist. She turned on his program and started listening to him and realized (1) he was not a sexist and (2) he was echoing so many of her views on politics and such. She's now a HUGE fan and when I was still working there, we would talk about Rush's show every day.

If the Left would simply ignore Rush, he probably would not have as big of an audience as he does.

Posted by: Michael in MI at October 13, 2009 03:40 PM (ObTcs)

65 I'd like to see Rush get $50million in damages, spend one third on cigars and bourbon-flavored viagra, Donate one third to the Heritage Foundation, and give the other third to Sarah Palin.


Posted by: sifty at October 13, 2009 03:40 PM (XqakI)

66 Yet more proof - every time the Leftists shriek about racism and "incitements to violence" it is nothing more than their usual projection. They do it, so they see it in everyone else.Outcries like this serve as a signal to keep pushing them, harder and harder, so that they finally reveal themselves for what they are. Violent, racist commiebastards.

Posted by: Reactionary at October 13, 2009 03:41 PM (P+HSn)

67 63 I know we can't call them Nazis (yet) but at what point do we accept the fact that they are totalitarian thugs and not legitimate poltical opponents?

Posted by: flenser at October 13, 2009 03:39 PM

I accepted that fact years ago, somewhere in 2003-2004.

Posted by: Michael in MI at October 13, 2009 03:41 PM (ObTcs)

68 Because some of us enjoy watching others suffer. In this case, the
others would be Matthews, Olbermann, Maddow and the Kos Kids.



My first thought is the famous Genghis Khan quote, the "lamentations of the women." But then I realized that this didn't apply to Maddow.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 13, 2009 03:42 PM (r8/Km)

69 Didn't Chris Matthews once say that the internment of Americans of Japanesse heritage in California during WWII was a good idea? I don't know if he did, but if you all would like to quote me, well, feel free.

acutally i think michelle malkin wrote a book on it called "In Defense of Internment"

Posted by: Ben at October 13, 2009 03:42 PM (wuv1c)

70 That's "journalism" now at MSNBC
Oh god how I would laugh if Roger Ailes bought them and put Glenn Beck on it.

Posted by: Entropy at October 13, 2009 03:44 PM (IsLT6)

71 AnonymousDrivel@32,

Chris Matthews, it is understood, is a donkey raping sh*t eater and not, we repeat -- not -- a pig f****er. As far as we know. And please, if you would be so kind, please spell our names properly. Thank you, madame or sir.

Posted by: Terrance & Phillip at October 13, 2009 03:44 PM (C3uAX)

72 Stuff Jefferson Said = Stuff Rush Said.

There you go talking about that racist sitcom, The Jeffersons. Ra-a-a-a-cist.

Posted by: Reiver at October 13, 2009 03:46 PM (Yi1Sk)

73 hey let's make up quotes and cite them as fact.

"Jimmy Carter's biggest domestic accomplishment was that time he was able to fit three tennis balls in his mouth at one time"
-Dali Lama (8/16/86)

"I gave AIDS to the monkeys, not vice versa"
-Andrew Sullivan (12/13/2003)

"I think I've been to 57 States and have one more to go"
Barack Obama (5/9/2009)

"Hey you remember when FDR went on TV in 1929 to calm people down about the Great Depression"
Joe Biden (ok this one is paraphrases but replete with errors)

Posted by: Ben at October 13, 2009 03:46 PM (wuv1c)

74 Oh god how I would laugh if Roger Ailes bought them and put Glenn Beck on it.
24 hours a day

Posted by: Ben at October 13, 2009 03:47 PM (wuv1c)

75 You can't argue with a liberal or an angry yappy dog.

You have to slap it's nose with a rolled up magazine when it gets all hysterical and shits on the living room rug.

And you have to discipline your yappy dog too.

Posted by: sifty at October 13, 2009 03:47 PM (XqakI)

76 Thanks for the link, ace. Much appreciated.

I've meant to write another post following up and haven't gotten around to it yet.

In my searching though to source the "slavery has merit" quote, I came across this blog post with "Top 10 Racist Limbaugh Quotes" which is just another case of these false quotes getting spread around.

My guess is that I was wrong in thinking Wilbon got his info from Michael Eric Dyson. I'm guessing that some schmuck started this back in 2005, or whenever it was that he put the quote on Wiki, then all these other people ran with it and turned it into basically one of those internet urban legends, like some great anti-illegal immigration speech that is sent around in e-mail with attribution to Robin Williams or some other famous actor. I've seen that plenty of times.

Or like the quote "We live in the greatest country in America, vote for me as I try to change it" or whatever the exact quote is that is attributed to Obama, but it was actually made by a journalist who was mocking Obama.

Shows the dangerous combination of the internet and a bunch of willingly ignorant people to spread a lie and make it the "truth"/"fact".

Posted by: Michael in MI at October 13, 2009 03:50 PM (ObTcs)

77 According to Powerline, the fascists are on the verge of passing a bill repealing the First Amendment.

Posted by: flenser at October 13, 2009 03:50 PM (mruUD)

78 I talked to a friend of mine who told me that according to his friend, Chris Matthews once said his idea of a great weekend involved 3 bottles of KY, some mad-dog 20/20 and a herd of sheep. Mind you, I didn't say that. I just cited someone who said that.
I have a reputation to uphold and would not want to needlessly besmirch anyone.

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 13, 2009 03:53 PM (V9SYy)

79 I don't know why I was watching it, but I saw a minute or so of Anderson Cooper last night, with that racist old imbecile dirtbag Al Sharpton and some c*cksucking former NFL player on, discussing how horrible Rush is.

No alternate view.

Only this stupid f*cking former NFLer, a jackass even dumber than Sharpton, if such a thing is possible, claiming Rush was so upset over having Obama, a black man, as President, as "quarterback of the country", that he wanted to buy the Rams so he could fire some people and pretend to have power.

It was like listening to one of AoS' dumber trolls. No connection to reality whatsoever, just a long wailing scream that someone whose political viewpoint they oppose might have the temerity to own a m*therf*cking football team.

Stupid f*cking assholes.

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 13, 2009 03:53 PM (cJPFV)

80 Dammit, forgot the link: Top 10 Racist Limbaugh Quotes

Notice all the comments just nodding in agreement with the list, despite no source links. Just pathetic.

We basically have an entire culture of George Costanzas: "It's not a lie, if you believe it".

I've even gotten some comments telling me "so what if the quotes aren't from him, he's still a racist." When I ask, "based on what?", I get no reply, just their assertion that he is a racist. Not based on them actually, you know, listening to his show or having valid racist quotes. Nope, just their assertion that he is.

Posted by: Michael in MI at October 13, 2009 03:54 PM (ObTcs)

81 This blog is getting more and more chaotic. Are you on your meds, everyone? Maybe it's me off my meds, I don't know.

Posted by: Truman North at October 13, 2009 03:55 PM (e8YaH)

82 Cited by James Farrior
At this point I'm skeptical of this as well. Where and when did Farrior make this claim, and when did he supposedly hear Limbaugh say this?

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 13, 2009 03:56 PM (sXLx/)

83 Posted by: Waterhouse at October 13, 2009 03:53 PM

Rush played the soundbites of those two on his show today. I'm sure he'll have it up later this evening on his site. And your summary of them is spot-on.

This is a coordinated smear and slander campaign orchestrated by the Left and liberal sportswriters to stop Rush from buying the Rams. It's blatantly obvious and pathetic.

Posted by: Michael in MI at October 13, 2009 03:56 PM (ObTcs)

84 Jason Whitlock from Fox Sports online used both of those Rush "qoutes" in his article...there are 143 PAGES of comments after the article.

He attributes them to:
Here are two quotes attributed to Limbaugh in a 2006 book, "101 People Who Are Really Screwing America," by Jack Huberman.

He then says he emailed Rush and the show and they responded "somewhat disputing the authenticity of the quotes"

So, Whitlock says Rush said something because another guy says Rush said something. Rush "somewhat disputes" it, but Whitlock uses them anyway? Isn't the burden of proof on Whitlock and/or Huberman? I mean, if he said it, it's taped or recorded somewhere.


Whitlock's "defense" seems to be that Limbaugh may have said it since he's said other things racially insensitive. Well, fine, then use those quotes instead, since there are so many in Whitlock's opinion.

Posted by: The Hammer at October 13, 2009 03:56 PM (YBTwf)

85 MS-NBC = MSU-NBC

Posted by: Aaron at October 13, 2009 03:57 PM (pVvKc)

86 with that racist old imbecile dirtbag Al Sharpton
No interview of Al Sharpton should ever be started without the question: So, Al, have you paid that judgment that you got slapped with as a result of your slandering the cops in the Tawana Brawley case? If the answer is no, then the interview is over. Why, because, Al, America does not need advice from a bum who does not pay his debts.

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 13, 2009 03:57 PM (V9SYy)

87 This blog is getting more and more chaotic.

I think Kratos will tell you that means it's closer to The End.

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 13, 2009 03:57 PM (cJPFV)

88 Think any Lefty would be brave enough to have a raccoon as a pet - particulary after their attack on a FL granny? The're all up in arms, pulling their pant waists up, and lashing out with their purses while demanding those evil facist police protect them.

Breaking News: Obama calls for summit w/ racconns. Believes another Nobel to be forth coming.

Posted by: MDr at October 13, 2009 03:58 PM (ucq49)

89 I guess Rev. Tawawna Sharpton sent an email out to the troops with orders to smear Limbaugh.

Rush will win this.

Every time the commies yell "Racist!!11!!", they lose.

Posted by: sifty at October 13, 2009 03:58 PM (XqakI)

90 That book is cited as the "source" of the James Earl Ray quote -- despite the fact the book itself has no cite.

Furthermore, the first appearance on the internet was in 2005 (no cite, just an assertion; that is the momnt of the invention of the quote, as far as we know). That book came out 2006.

So obviously some idiot on the internet is the source for the book. Either way, no one has an actual authoritative cite for it, but they cite the "book" because, well, it's a BOOK. Sounds better than saying "StinkyPete" claimed it in a blog's comments a couple of years ago, eh?

Posted by: ace at October 13, 2009 04:00 PM (7N7hn)

91 If retractions are not forthcoming, can you spell LAWSUIT?

Posted by: GarandFan at October 13, 2009 04:00 PM (ZQBnQ)

92 Squeelers
as a pittsburgher i find this derogatory comment to be racist. How could it be taken any other way?


Racist? Hell no. I find Mike Tomlinson would be attractive if he coached any other team. My hatred for Pittsburgh's NFL team is pure.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 13, 2009 04:01 PM (NtiET)

93 Cited by James Farrior
At this point I'm skeptical of this as well. Where and when did Farrior make this claim, and when did he supposedly hear Limbaugh say this?

more importantly why has james farriors pass rushing and pass defense fallen off the chart. He has been terrible this year for us. If i were to believe a randomly attributed quote from the steelers line backing corps, i would except nothing less that James Harrison's word, maybe Lamar Woodley if he picks up his sack total

Posted by: Ben at October 13, 2009 04:02 PM (wuv1c)

94
I hope Rush sues them all into the dirt and buys TWO nfl teams with the judgement.

Posted by: Dang Straights at October 13, 2009 04:02 PM (Haq+B)

95 Racist? Hell no. I find Mike Tomlinson would be attractive if he coached any other team. My hatred for Pittsburgh's NFL team is pure.
let me guess you are from seatle, cleveland, cinnci, tennesseeor new england

Posted by: Ben at October 13, 2009 04:02 PM (wuv1c)

96 I've seen the fake Limbaugh quotes issue come up repeatedely. One black lady I once spokewith brought up the MLK "quote." I asked her for a cite. She claimed "an email forward." I saw the email...one of those chains with a bunch of crap about how Limbaugh needs to be taken off the air. Aftershowing hera website that debunked the quotes, and that Limbaugh would never have stayed on the air if that had happened, I was told the debunking was just racist and I could believe what I wanted to believe. Typical.

Posted by: brak at October 13, 2009 04:03 PM (1Y3Fy)

97 This possibility -- that the left is simply lying ad making stuff up -- rarely occurs to me.

You should try reading Ace of Spades HQ sometime, that'll open your eyes pretty quick.

Posted by: Dang Straights at October 13, 2009 04:03 PM (Haq+B)

98 #80I've even gotten some comments telling me "so what if the quotes aren't
from him, he's still a racist." When I ask, "based on what?", I get no
reply, just their assertion that he is a racist. Not based on them
actually, you know, listening to his show or having valid racist
quotes. Nope, just their assertion that he is.

Just knowing that Limbaugh is a Conservative is all it takes. People have been conditioned by the education system and mass media to believe that Conservative = racist. They know nothing real about Conservative thought, and know only what they've been told by teachers, fashionable pop stars, etc. I believed the constructed Conservative stereotype too in my Liberal days, until I actually listened to people like Rush, and did some research of my own.

Conservatives really need to find a way to get their real message out.

Posted by: Pyrocles at October 13, 2009 04:03 PM (xzSvW)

99 When Tom Selleck won his money from The Enquirer, he donated it to USC or UCLA for a new Journalistic Ethics program.

I'd love to see Rush donate millions in winnings to something like that. Somewhere that Mathews has to drive by every day on his way to the funemployment office.

Posted by: sifty at October 13, 2009 04:04 PM (XqakI)

100 Only this stupid f*cking former NFLer, a jackass even dumber than Sharpton, if such a thing is possible, claiming Rush was so upset over having Obama, a black man, as President, as "quarterback of the country", that he wanted to buy the Rams so he could fire some people and pretend to have power.
That was Mercury Morris of the 1972 dolphins, after the interview he tried to snort the goal line because he thought it was made of coke (he's a coke head if you didn't figure it out)

Posted by: Ben at October 13, 2009 04:04 PM (wuv1c)

101 Having had driving jobs the last 16 years with a radio I've probably listened to Rush as much as anyone.
These are malicious lies and are being generated by sports columnists like Mike Lupica and Wilbon who are hard-core liberals who hate conservatives.
Today Rush called them out for apologies and I thought hinted at legal action toward one writer.
Go get em Rush- this is the only thing these people understand- forcefully throwing down the gauntlet.

Posted by: jjshaka at October 13, 2009 04:04 PM (cctza)

102 That "cited by James Farrior" is evidence of MSNBC's guilty knowledge
-- it's plain they attempted to find a citation for the claim. It's
also clear that they came up empty.

Are you saying James Farrior is lying? You do know James Farrior is black, don't you? Of course you do because you are RAAAACCCCISSSTTTT!!!!1!1!! eleventy!!!

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at October 13, 2009 04:05 PM (ur6Ar)

103 This is a coordinated smear and slander campaign orchestrated by the Left and liberal sportswriters to stop Rush from buying the Rams. It's blatantly obvious and pathetic.
And this is the dumbest coordinated campaign I have ever seen.
Living around St. Louis, the fear in the community is that the Rams are going to leave around 2014. Why, because our city, in its infinite wisdom, signed a leasee with the Rams saying that the stadium they play in would always be in the top 1/4 of all stadiums in the NFL. Now, the Dome they currently play in is a joke. So, we either spend a ton of money that neither the state or city of St. Louis has, or lose the Rams.
Limbaugh is one of probably 11 limited partners (per NFL Rules, you can only have 11 limited partners) in a group headed by David Checketts, who owns the Blues. When Checketts bought the Blues, they were, without questions, once of the worst run franchises in the NHL. Yet, Checketts was smart enough to hire the right people and has turned the Blues around.
So, these morons want to impair the ability of St. Louis to retain the Rams because they hate Limbaugh.
You know what a limited partner gets in a NFL ownership group. The most expensive suite in the stadium. You have very little say, spend a ton of money for the right to be a limited partner, and other than the fact you get to wander around and hob know with the players(and have you watched the Rams - you would want to hob knob with that?) have zero input on player development, etc. Hell, except when the team is sold, you don't even make any money.
Jason Whitlock is a moron who writes out of Kansas City. He should focus on some things closer to him. Like why the Chiefs suck and why the Royals suck and where Zach Greinke's gonna go once his contract expires and he decides that he would rather work as a parking attendant at Kauffman Stadium than pitch one more inning for a once great franchise that is now mirred in suckage.
So, Chrissy, Mike Wilbon et. al. Do us in St. Louis a favor. Either bring the money to keep the Rams here or STFU.

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 13, 2009 04:05 PM (V9SYy)

104 Actually I think a major question that is being over looked here is, why would anyone in their right mind want to buy the rams?

Posted by: Ben at October 13, 2009 04:06 PM (wuv1c)

105 #79, I happened to catch that same interview as I was channel surfing. The ex NFL player was Mercury Morris I believe. I have no words for Sharpton. The world would be better if he would crawl back under that rock he came out of.

Posted by: Jewells at October 13, 2009 04:06 PM (l/N7H)

106 Actually I think a major question that is being over looked here is, why would anyone in their right mind want to buy the rams?

To move them back to LA, of course! What are you, some kind of racist?

Posted by: joncelli at October 13, 2009 04:07 PM (RD7QR)

107 It's a dark day for race relations in this country.

Posted by: huerfano at October 13, 2009 04:08 PM (vtuZz)

108 Rush hits back; they'll find out. That's one of the things I like about Rush: he's funny, urbane, and actually rather charming; but he can (and does) fight bare-knuckled if he has to. And he usually wins. Rush Limbaugh is the veriest demon to the left because he's survived every lance and arrow they can shoot at him, and come out stronger every time. He laughs at them, and drinks their hate like mother's milk. If the leftist creed is a religious ideology (as I often assert that it is), then Rush Limbaugh is the Satan of that religion.

The inability to tell truth from fiction was one of the most horrifying aspects of Orwell's 1984 -- the possibility that every fact you had ever heard might not in fact be true. Winston Smith worked in an apparatus that ruthlessly expunged and manipulated history to bring it up to date; what is true today might not be true tomorrow, and yesterday's truth might have been a lie the day before. After a time, it became impossible even in principle to figure out what really happened.

The left has done this kind of thing for years and years. The HUAC trials are a good example: the left teaches the "narrative", not the reality; likewise the Rosenberg Trial; likewise the fabulously nasty and corrupt JFK administration. Where the truth is unpalatable or embarassing, the left simply asserts their own story and *forces* it as the "truth" -- eventually, they figure, it will become enshrined as truth through mere repetition. (A more trivial example of this is the "plastic turkey" meme with George W. Bush. It was exhaustively debunked, over and over again, yet every lefty I've ever met believes it as Gospel truth and repeats it as such.)

Rush will fight, and his millions of fans will back him to the hilt. This particular tempest will blow over: not because the left surrenders, but simply because they abandon the field to plot an attack somewhere else. Rush is brave enough to call a liar by name when the lie is spoken, but he is a rare man in this quality. Alas.

Posted by: Monty at October 13, 2009 04:09 PM (4Pleu)

109 One of you smart lawyer types put me some knowledge. Do you think that Matthews wishing death upon Limbaugh might just clear the Sullivan hurdle for malice?

Posted by: XBradTC at October 13, 2009 04:09 PM (0zwQM)

110 I hope one of Rush's partners in the Rams bid turns out to be Tiger Woods.

Just for the exploding head factor on the commies.

Posted by: sifty at October 13, 2009 04:09 PM (XqakI)

111 It's your responsibility to vet quotes and determine their legitimacy, especially quotes that would be so strongly controversial. If, as you say, Limbaugh has "earned a fortune with racial satire", then surely you could find some verifiable quotes to prove your point. (See what I did there).You made the mistake of building your entire article on the strength of those two quotes, which apparently aren't really quotes at all. Their lack of veracity surely detracts from your article, and warrants an apology. Unfortunately, you have squeezed the toothpaste out of the tube. I hope Limbaugh and his attorneys help you squeeze it back in.


I sent this to Mr Whitlock via f/b and his email....feel free to join in.

BallState0@aol.com


Posted by: The Hammer at October 13, 2009 04:10 PM (YBTwf)

112 #105: Buy low, sell high. And it's hard to get much lower than the Rams.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 13, 2009 04:11 PM (p05LM)

113 One of you smart lawyer types put me some knowledge. Do you think that
Matthews wishing death upon Limbaugh might just clear the Sullivan hurdle for malice?>>>

good point. I think that malice should just be judicially observed fact at this point for the left wing talkers with respect to Rush and Bush.

Posted by: joeindc44 at October 13, 2009 04:11 PM (QxSug)

114 Jason Whitlock is a moron who writes out of Kansas City. He should focus on some things closer to him. Like why the Chiefs suck and why the Royals suck and where Zach Greinke's gonna go once his contract expires and he decides that he would rather work as a parking attendant at Kauffman Stadium than pitch one more inning for a once great franchise that is now mirred in suckage.
LOL- well said. I feel so bad for Greinke. Saw him pitch a game in July, which we lost of course because we suck. The Chiefs? Gave up on them a long time ago. It will be years before we become a contender again. Our offensive linestinks up the joint.

Posted by: Jewells at October 13, 2009 04:11 PM (l/N7H)

115 And to continue my rant, we have morons around here like Bryan Burwell, who is also railing about Rush in his stupid sports column in the local rag. Burwell, citing many of the same non-existent quotes other cite, claims Limbaugh is racist and bad, etc. Of course, once the Rams leave, Burwell will go on a rant and blast the local community for not stepping up and saving the Rams. It will never occur to him he is undermining perhaps the only group that can actually save the Rams. He is too super smart to get the connection.
And in case you are wondering how stupid Burwell is, turn on the sports reporters on ESPN some Sunday and their he is, often making Mitch Alboom look smart.

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 13, 2009 04:11 PM (V9SYy)

116 Oh, Chrissy! For most people, having a frothing psychotic breakdown like that at work would be enough to lose one's job. But at MSNBC, they must all have a certain quota in their annual performance goals. Or more likely, they don't even need to be told to do it...the place is a frickin' asylum.

And yeah, hope Rush smashes those whores with the sue-hammer, and good.

Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at October 13, 2009 04:12 PM (pLTLS)

117 If you can't go to James Farrior for accurate quotes on shit he knows nothing about, what's this world coming to?

Posted by: Dr. Spank at October 13, 2009 04:12 PM (TZazt)

118 Sharpton's message complained that Rush had badmouthed Duncan McNabb and Michael Vick.

Who in the hell hasn't badmouthed Michael Vick? Everyone in America is racist now.

Posted by: stace at October 13, 2009 04:13 PM (g/wgk)

119 And I don't think Matthews even hates Limbaugh. He's just pandering to his audience.

Posted by: brak at October 13, 2009 04:13 PM (1Y3Fy)

120 I feel so bad for Greinke. Saw him pitch a game in July, which we lost of course because we suck.
Yea - he is great, but even he can't pitch the other team to negative 1 run. However, I am sure he will look great in Yankee pinstrips, or the Red Sox gear or (please, can I dream) Cub pinstrips.

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 13, 2009 04:14 PM (V9SYy)

121 The communists hate Limbaugh and can not go a day without saying something about him. Normally it is a lie, but then again, every time someone in the Democrat party opens their mouth a lie comes out regardless of what they are discussing.

Posted by: Vic at October 13, 2009 04:14 PM (CDUiN)

122 Rush loves to end any discussion of the McNabb thing by ACTUALLY PLAYING THE AUDIO...

where Michael Irvin agrees with him.

Posted by: joeindc44 at October 13, 2009 04:14 PM (QxSug)

123 Can't we all just make up quotes?

Posted by: Rodney King at October 13, 2009 04:15 PM (W4T+b)

124 And to continue my rant, we have morons around here like Bryan Burwell, who is also railing about Rush in his stupid sports column in the local rag.

That's the worst part of this. It gives every sports writer their chance to do two things they love to do: talk about politics, and prove how liberal they are. It's obnoxious.

Posted by: brak at October 13, 2009 04:16 PM (1Y3Fy)

125 Keeping it real Chrissy Matthews "hatred for the sake of hatred" style: I don't know what I love watching more. Lemmings following each other off the cliff, or lemmings watching each other eat their own fecal matter before following each other off the cliff?

It's a toss-up to be sure.

MSNBC is beyond facts/truth black hole. They are the drowning cesspool of the MSM. Too bad it's not on the auction block. I would find it delicious for Limbaugh to buy it and fireALL those critters.

Posted by: drillanwr at October 13, 2009 04:17 PM (GkYyh)

126 Seriosuly, sports site Deadspin must have run 10 posts in the last 2 weekstitled along the lines of"horrible racist wants to buy NFL team."

Posted by: brak at October 13, 2009 04:18 PM (1Y3Fy)

127 Today Rush called them out for apologies and I thought hinted at legal action toward one writer.

Go get em Rush- this is the only thing these people understand- forcefully throwing down the gauntlet.

Posted by: jjshaka at October 13, 2009 04:04 PM (cctza)
He more than hinted. He said that 'letters' had been sent to many of the 'journalists'...and a few more were going out. I hope he sues their asses into oblivion.

Posted by: Tami at October 13, 2009 04:18 PM (VuLos)

128 you think i don't notice that 98 percent of this website is in the color white and only about 1 percent in black?
We need a color quota here
Oh, sure, make most of it black and then the text would be white, wouldn't it, you racist, you.
[points to own eyes, points at Ben]

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 13, 2009 04:19 PM (e3Kgg)

129 Oh, Whitlock. He's the mental midget who called the Colts and Patriots racists (in 2007; all my links are dead) because they have more white guys than the league average.

I hope he chokes on his own bile everytime he sees Austin Collie.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 13, 2009 04:19 PM (NtiET)

130 huerfano: "It's a dark day for race relations in this country."

I'm pretty sure that's racist. Plus, look at that pixel! Doubly racist!

Posted by: Sadly, No! at October 13, 2009 04:19 PM (C3uAX)

131 Here is a link to Drew Sharp's wiki page -

http://tinyurl.com/ykegu5z

Drew Sharp is the idiot "journalist" from the Detroit Free Press who was taken apart by O'Reilly last night.

I recommend we add some...stuff...to Mr. Sharp's wiki page. ^_^

Posted by: Ronald at October 13, 2009 04:20 PM (vQdwt)

132 Since Rush is from MO, it might be possible he just wants to create something really nice and successful for his home state. Get some pride going.

Maybe to give back a little to Missoura and have some fun playing "football business" at the same time.

None of the commies will assign any but the most evil motives to any conservative.

Posted by: sifty at October 13, 2009 04:20 PM (XqakI)

133 Do you think that Matthews wishing death upon Limbaugh might just clear the Sullivan hurdle for malice?

Not a lawyer, but I can't see how it couldn't.

Plus, I don't get the hatred for Yaphet Kotto.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 13, 2009 04:22 PM (ZJ/un)

134 Breaking: Chris Matthews demolishes Godwin's Law; Comparison of MSNBC to Third Reich's Ministry of Propaganda Valid

Posted by: George Orwell at October 13, 2009 04:22 PM (AZGON)

135 I was listening to Mark Levin the other day and he was steamed about this stuff.

Since they're friends, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Rush got some very sound legal advice from Levin.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 13, 2009 04:23 PM (ao5cQ)

136 I'm pretty sure Sean Hannity said all black people have big butts and love fried chicken.

Posted by: James Farrior, Genius at October 13, 2009 04:23 PM (TZazt)

137 He more than hinted. He said that 'letters' had been sent to many of the 'journalists'...and a few more were going out. I hope he sues their asses into oblivion.

He and everyone else knows that since that courts of assholes led by Warren ruled on the Sullivan case it is impossible to sue a newspaper if you are a well known person. It is almost impossible to sue a newspaper if you are a totally private citizen.

Or I guess I should say sue and win.

Posted by: Vic at October 13, 2009 04:23 PM (CDUiN)

138 I notice that some of the lefties are trying to get even sneakier about passing off the fabricated quotes. Some of them are now mixing a few real quotes relating to race into their ZOMG RUSH IS TEH RACIST!!!1 lists, like Rush's comment from a few years back about the media rooting for Donovan McNabb because they want a black quarterback to succeed (that's really a comment about the media, not race, but there's no deep thinking on the left about this stuff).

That way, when you try to refute them by pointing out how the bad quotes are all fabrications, they point to the real ones and say "YOU'RE LYING!!11!!" even though the real ones aren't terribly controversial or incendiary.

Posted by: Kensington at October 13, 2009 04:24 PM (kSpSZ)

139 Sharpton's message complained that Rush had badmouthed Duncan McNabb and Michael Vick. Who in the hell hasn't badmouthed Michael Vick? Everyone in America is racist now.

Sharpton is objectively pro-dogfighting.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 13, 2009 04:24 PM (ZJ/un)

140 Keep talking and writing, boys. I'm busy calling lawyers.

Posted by: Rush Limbaugh at October 13, 2009 04:24 PM (ZGhSv)

141 The husband and I stopped by St. Louis on our vacation last week to see the arch and were listening to a local AM station on our way there. They were discussing the possible Limbaugh purchase and it was hilarious to hear some of the libs frothing at the mouth about how they'd never go to another Rams game again if Limbaugh got a stake.

These people are just jealous they can't afford buying into a sports team.

And I find it uproariously funny when a bloated porkpie like Mathews implies someone else is a fatty.

Posted by: nightwitch at October 13, 2009 04:24 PM (YVMan)

142 Funny Drew Sharp slander (or is it libel?) site - http://tinyurl.com/yzfybus

Posted by: Drew Sharp at October 13, 2009 04:25 PM (vQdwt)

143 He more than hinted. He said that 'letters' had been sent to many of the 'journalists'...and a few more were going out. I hope he sues their asses into oblivion.

He and everyone else knows that since that courts of assholes led by Warren ruled on the Sullivan case it is impossible to sue a newspaper if you are a well known person. It is almost impossible to sue a newspaper if you are a totally private citizen.

Or I guess I should say sue and win.


you know as well as i do what this means. for newspapers retractions on page G50 right above the chinese massage parlor ads. And for the news networks a ten second metion on at 2am

Posted by: Ben at October 13, 2009 04:25 PM (wuv1c)

144 That's the worst part of this. It gives every sports writer their chance to do two things they love to do: talk about politics, and prove how liberal they are. It's obnoxious.
And brak just fueled the rant even further. You are absolutely right. I noticed this about the time Magic Johnson "retired" becausehe was HIV postitive. And every moronic sportswriter in the country came out with columns saying how this was society's fault, and their fault, because they (the sportswriter) didn't focus enough on social issues, didn't talk about HIV/AIDS enough, how they just helped people stay ignorant because they were not engaged.
Please. Look, idiots. Here is what we want from sportswriters. I don't need you to talk to me about important issues. Most of you barely make any sense talking about sports. Let me know what the local team is doing, what possible trades/free agent signings they are going to make, what the mood of the clubhouse is and, otherwise, please shut up. Yes, there are exceptions to that rule, and very few and far between. 9/11 - fine, you get one column to tell me about how sports is a unifying aspect of this country and why the games need to go on. Some transcedent figure dies (e.g., Michael Jordan) you get one column to tell me about he impact the life of even the most casual of sports fan. Otherwise, no - keep your friggin political opinions to yourself. I don't care, your readers don't care and most of the time you look like an ass for trying to do it anyway.
Case in point. All of you clowns could have spent one column a week from the time he entered the league until the time he made the announcement, and the odds are pretty good Magic was going to contract HIV. Why - because he wasn't going to listen to you, he was living in the moment. We knew about HIV in the mid 80s, all of the information was out there. If information was all that was needed, would there still be cases of people contacting HIV today? Sorry to burst your bubble, but government can't make people not make stupid decisions, what makes you think some moronic sportswriter can?

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 13, 2009 04:26 PM (V9SYy)

145 All this talk of Limbaugh is just distracting us from the real issues facing this country.
Real issues like Fox News.

Posted by: Entropy at October 13, 2009 04:27 PM (IsLT6)

146 Yeah, it seems like the Thunderbird Photo of Rush quotesyou know, the quote that everybody remembers hearing, but nobody can quite track down.

I can't see anyone taking this seriously, really. What are the political demographics of football watchers anyway? I can't see any of my lefty professors watching the game, and most of the football-watching liberals my age don't know that Rush is even in the market for a teammuch less care.

Posted by: Fortunate Son at October 13, 2009 04:27 PM (B7kwl)

147 I'll get back at those moonbats... Let's see... I'll claim Kanye West said George Bush hates black people! Yeah!

What? Kanye actually did say that?

Never mind.

Posted by: George Orwell at October 13, 2009 04:27 PM (AZGON)

148 Sharpton is objectively pro-dogfighting.

Dog-fighting is a part of inner-city "black culture". Who are we to judge Mike Vick on celebrating his beautiful cultural heritage?

Posted by: Pyrocles at October 13, 2009 04:27 PM (xzSvW)

149 just the same way the right wing was talking up violence in 1963
You know, while the ones happilybeating Negroes then were all Democrats like Kleagle Byrd.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 13, 2009 04:28 PM (2qU2d)

150 Ace,
I used to encounter the "Cobra" guy mentioned in the link about the Limbaugh quote. He goes all over the blogosphere every day spreading this sort of stuff. He also uses links to stuff written by hacks, and puts them in serious discussion threads. He used to pollute the comments threads at a very good blog called "Discriminations," which focusses on afirmative action. The host has stopped posting his comments it seems.

Posted by: Brad at October 13, 2009 04:28 PM (2GsJg)

151 everyone knows that the #1 principle of sound decision-making is: does the buyer agree with my political views?

Posted by: Cool Money Grip at October 13, 2009 04:29 PM (KOkrW)

152 clicks heels, clicks heels,
what i wish is those public Ass=ets the movie stars, the musicians, the sports stars, would learn to sthup, don't they know that there is half a population that has a say in whether they buy tickets to shows, or events. why do they feel such a damn desire to be an ass. they think everyone in their audience is a Lefty , progressive,or liberal?

Posted by: willows sick and tired at October 13, 2009 04:29 PM (GkYyh)

153 You know, while the ones happily beating Negroes then were all Democrats like Kleagle Byrd.

Hey, that's GRAND Kleagle. Boy.

Posted by: Senator Robert "Wizard" Byrd at October 13, 2009 04:29 PM (AZGON)

154 @ 145
Mal, you forgot to put the picture of Keef there at the end.
For reference purposes.

Posted by: Rush Limbaugh at October 13, 2009 04:29 PM (ZGhSv)

155 hear some of the libs frothing at the mouth about how they'd never go to another Rams game again if Limbaugh got a stake.

Yeah, like libs ever watch football. It's merit-based, violent, male-only, and there's only one winner at the end of the season.

Not to mention the women forced to perform on the sidelines in hotpants, pandering to the objectifying male gaze.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 13, 2009 04:31 PM (NtiET)

156 Right about now is when trolls will start to show up. 1pm PST seems to be talking points time.

Just a prediction.

Posted by: sifty at October 13, 2009 04:32 PM (XqakI)

157 Glenn Beck said, and I'm quoting, "I love black people, everyone just own at least three". Shocking.

Posted by: James Farrior, Genius at October 13, 2009 04:32 PM (TZazt)

158 #127: Deadspin hasn't been good since Will Leitch left.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 13, 2009 04:32 PM (p05LM)

159 MSNBC has NO black hosts during primetime. Raaaaacists

Posted by: zombie toto at October 13, 2009 04:33 PM (FhPAC)

160 More REAL Quotes
"Mr. Gorbachov, tear down this wall... so i can have better access to East German bondage porn"
Ronald Reagan (6/12/1987)
"I probably shouldn't huff paint while doing 10 hits of acid."
Keith Olbermann's monther 6 months into pregnancy with Keith.

"Maybe the Armenian Genocide was an accident"
David Shuster commenting on the Armenian-Turkish Treaty signed 4 days ago

Posted by: Ben at October 13, 2009 04:33 PM (wuv1c)

161 Yeah, it seems like the Thunderbird Photo of Rush quotes
I don't even know how you people fuck up links so badly.
I could probably reproduce it if a tried.... but damn if doesn't seem like a lot of work.

Posted by: Entropy at October 13, 2009 04:33 PM (IsLT6)

162 CNN is peddling the lie as well - http://tinyurl.com/yfqrgkv

Posted by: Drew Sharp at October 13, 2009 04:34 PM (vQdwt)

163 Stuff I Read On Wikipedia
"Mars is made of Velveeta."
"Wombat livers are the primary source of semiconductor material."
"Kathmandu's beaches are some of the best in the world."
"Munch's The Scream is a portrait of Emperor Maximillian of Mexico."
"The Los Angeles Lakers defeated the TorontoMaple Leafs 14-7 in Super Bowl III."
"Al Pacino is the illegitimate son of Al Capone and Bess Truman."
"The winner of the Second Battle of Bull Run was decided by playing a game of Yahtzee."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 13, 2009 04:34 PM (B+qrE)

164 Where do the %20's even come from?

Posted by: Entropy at October 13, 2009 04:34 PM (IsLT6)

165 MSNBC has NO black hosts during primetime. Raaaaacists
yeah they only sub contract blacks as guests. they don't want to pay for black peoples health care. they are whiter than any network actually, they have almost no black hosts at all.
also i am still desputing the fact that cnn's soledad o'brien is black.

Posted by: Ben at October 13, 2009 04:35 PM (wuv1c)

166 Where do the %20's even come from?
Those are either spaces in html or tracking devices for THEM to trace your comments, entropy.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 13, 2009 04:36 PM (B+qrE)

167 "Munch's The Scream is a portrait of Emperor Maximillian of Mexico."
that would could very well be true, but we all know it was because of the global warming in europe caused by the use of suvs which caused Kraktoa to erupt.

Posted by: Ben at October 13, 2009 04:36 PM (wuv1c)

168 Where do the %20's even come from?

That's the ASCII code for a space.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 13, 2009 04:36 PM (NtiET)

169 James Whitlock at Fox Sports completely turned me off to his column today which was usually interesting to me. I'm sure all you morons figured this out before me, but he's a ginormous bastard because he used those "quotes" in his latest column and just went on an anti-Rush and anti-white rant.

Posted by: Adlib at October 13, 2009 04:38 PM (k/CNO)

170 I gotta better idea for Rush. Instead of suing these morons, buy them. GE wants to dump NBC Universal (according to Drudge) which is a perfect opportunity for Rush to sweep in and take over.
Can you imagine Matthews reaction to that? I'm thinking Scanners or Outland.

Posted by: Iblis at October 13, 2009 04:39 PM (9221z)

171 Rush could take a page from this Carol Burnett saga: (from DU, no less..)

Burnett drew attention in 1981, when she sued the National Enquirer for
libel after the tabloid newspaper described her alleged public
drunkenness, purportedly with Henry Kissinger. Burnett was particularly
sensitive to the accusations because of her parents' own alcoholism.
The case was a landmark for libel cases involving celebrities, although
the unprecedented $1.6 million verdict for Burnett was reduced to about
$800,000 on an appeal, and eventually settled out of court.

She
donated a portion of that award to the University of Hawaii saying she
hoped the suit would teach aspiring journalists the dangers of defaming
individuals in articles. The money was used to fund Law and Ethics
courses at the school. Burnett said at the time that she didn't care if
she just won "carfare," and that the lawsuit was a matter of principle.

Thoughts:
1: the suit did NOT teach aspiring journalists anything about the dangers of defaming individuals.

2. How do you prove you are not a racist?


Posted by: Derak at October 13, 2009 04:39 PM (GmgwM)

172 I'm feeling the whole unifyin thing from the Obama administration folks. isn't it a perty thing, full of hope, and stuff.

Posted by: willows sick and tired at October 13, 2009 04:39 PM (GkYyh)

173 69.64.213.146

The Wiki guy's IP Address

Posted by: Mike H at October 13, 2009 04:40 PM (cvvNY)

174 Since Cwissy Maffews is on a movie kick:

I think Chris Mathews should investigate why Jim Brown died at the end of The Dirty Dozen.

That still pisses me off.

Or why Samuel L. Jackson got eaten in Jurassic Park. Or is that Jooooassic Park? Huh? huh?


Posted by: sifty at October 13, 2009 04:41 PM (XqakI)

175 You know, while the ones happily beating Negroes then were all Democrats like Kleagle Byrd.





I was also Exalted Cyclops!

Posted by: Senator Robert Byrd, Lifelong Racist Democrat at October 13, 2009 04:41 PM (cJPFV)

176 just went on an anti-Rush and anti-white rant.


He does that.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 13, 2009 04:42 PM (NtiET)

177
Your just trying to cause the heart attack now. The poster boy for moronic sport guy with political opinions. The only difference is, most of these guys know they can't cut it in real news. They understand batting averages, they understand free-throw percentages, they understand the cover 2. But issues like health care, debt, understanding how a poll is done. Nada...and they know it. So, for the most part, they stick to the stuff they understand and venture out into politics only when they know they can get away with some column that will entail generalities (we need to do more about the homelss that beg at the stadium) because actually coming up with a real solution is hard.
Then there is Keith "friggin" Olbermann. The dunce who got on the air in 2004 and declared John Kerry was going to win because the exit polling showed him ahead. Yet, looking at the real numbers, it showed that 47%of the exit polling participants were single females. If the actual rate of single females in this country were 47%, that douchbag would have found a mate by then.
And why did Keefums go into politics. Cause his ass was fried in sports. Everyone, with the exception of Dan Patrick, hated his pompus arrogant ass at ESPN. He could not go out on the road because half of the athletes he poked fun at nightly wanted to rip his friggin head off. So this clown goes and does hard news. His first stint at MSNBC was soooo bad even the people there said he was out of his league. He then wonders back into sports, at Fox, where Rupert Murdoch realized he sucked. He then bounces around, filling in for Aaron Brown when he was at CNN, basicaly doing scrunt work, until the ratings fell so bad an MSNBC they gave him a second chance.
What Olbermann lacks in knoweldge he makes up for in volume. He screeches to 20% of this country that is so retrarded, most of them probably need instructions (or atleast a daily reminder) on how to breath. Here is a clown who, 3 weeks before the Republican primary, brings on Nate Silverman of web site fivethirtyeight and proclaims him the greates pollster ever, yet clowns on Joe Scorboro during the Republican convention when Joe had the timidity to say that the McCain camp felt they had a 50/50 shots of winning, when Silverman's own web site showed McCain's chance of winning at 53%.
Keith Olbermann. Sucked at sports. Sucked at news. Sucked at life.

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 13, 2009 04:42 PM (V9SYy)

178 OT: Palin wishes Maggie Thatcher a happy birthday ;-)
http://tinyurl.com/yzgqy46

Posted by: ParisParamus at October 13, 2009 04:43 PM (NRnxk)

179 An after dinner mint, Chris?

It's wafer thin!

Posted by: NavyspyII at October 13, 2009 04:44 PM (1jSiQ)

180 Vick went to jail because of gambling. Gambling across state lines. I feel you are correct if it soley dogfighting then he probably would have walked. As it is he got off easy.

Posted by: lions at October 13, 2009 04:44 PM (Ip9OL)

181 Mark Levin has been talking about WIKI lately. He's upset that the editors are only quoting negative book reviews, etc. We're getting our rump kicked in new media.

Posted by: Winston at October 13, 2009 04:46 PM (FggW0)

182 Mal, you forgot to put the picture of Keef there at the end.
Forgot to include the rant inducing statement in number 179. My bad.

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 13, 2009 04:46 PM (V9SYy)

183 How much of this before it is clear that the dinosaur media don't "occasionally" fabricate "facts" out of whole cloth? And is it clear yet that there is no going back for the bulk of alphabet networks and the papers? They will remain staunch enemies of anything opposed to left-wing agendas until the day they go bankrupt.

Posted by: George Orwell at October 13, 2009 04:46 PM (AZGON)

184 69.64.213.146The Wiki guy's IP Address

Posted by: Mike H at October 13, 2009 04:40 PM (cvvNY)
That IP address goes to a law firm.PATTERSON, BELKNAPP, WEBB TYLER

Posted by: Tami at October 13, 2009 04:46 PM (VuLos)

185 so gambling is wrong and killing dogs is ok?

Posted by: willows sick and tired at October 13, 2009 04:46 PM (GkYyh)

186 Where's Dennis Miller when you need him?

Posted by: Derak at October 13, 2009 04:46 PM (GmgwM)

187 The entire Motherfucking Mainstream Media Complex needs to be taken down with a wrecking ball.
I am so sick and tired of their propaganda. They put Joseph Goebbels to shame as a rank amateur.
Motherfuckers.

Posted by: LGoPs at October 13, 2009 04:47 PM (v/rEn)

188 Whitlock, as a professional journalist, basically said that it isn't his problem if the quotes are fake, RL doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. So, instead of actually sourcing things and confirming their accuracy, anything goes.

Posted by: ed at October 13, 2009 04:47 PM (Urhve)

189 Hey, look, I found somethingthe President o fthe United Statesand I have in common...
"My grandmother wasa typical white person."

Posted by: sherlock at October 13, 2009 04:48 PM (ZrS0c)

190 HeatherRadish at October 13, 2009 04:31 PM (NtiET)

Exactly. I also wished I could've gotten those mental midgets to ponder the fact that NFL owners are generally rich as hell. What are the odds that the majority of owners lean right and don't want income ripped from them to subsidize any number of idiotic government schemes?

Posted by: nightwitch at October 13, 2009 04:48 PM (YVMan)

191 What is truth?

Posted by: Some Dude in the Bible at October 13, 2009 04:48 PM (ZGhSv)

192 Cole Sear: I see dead racist people.
Malcolm Crowe: In your dreams? [Cole shakes his head no]
Malcolm Crowe: While you're awake? [Cole nods]
Malcolm Crowe: Dead Racist people like, in graves KKK hoods? In coffins With burning crosses?
Cole Sear: Walking around like regular people. They don't see each other. They only see what they want to see. They don't know they're dead racist.
Malcolm Crowe: How often do you see them?
Cole Sear: All the time. They're everywhere.

Posted by: Neo at October 13, 2009 04:49 PM (tE8FB)

193 so gambling is wrong and killing dogs is ok?

Vick didn't pay taxes on the unclaimed gambling income.

You can kill anyone you like as long as the IRS gets its cut.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 13, 2009 04:49 PM (NtiET)

194 I'm pretty certain that somebody told me that somebody heard somebody say that they heard Rush say something bad about black people. Can you get me another doughnut.

Posted by: Jason Whitlock at October 13, 2009 04:49 PM (V9SYy)

195 No killing dog is not okay but the point was made that Vick dogfighting club was a cultural thing, and my point was if the gambling was not found he would have walked per the liberal slant of the media and courts arguing that it was not his fault and that Vick was the victim not the dogs.

Posted by: lions at October 13, 2009 04:50 PM (Ip9OL)

196


United States (US)

Region:
NY

City:
New York

Latitude:
40.7619

Longitude:
-73.9763

Posted by: willows sick and tired at October 13, 2009 04:50 PM (GkYyh)

197 You can kill anyone you like as long as the IRS gets its cut.
Word. Did you see what we did to Capone?

Posted by: The Internal Revenue Service at October 13, 2009 04:51 PM (V9SYy)

198 @ 171 Didn't [Serena Williams] threaten to beat up a lines person and in the past make several racial comments mostly through the influence of her racist father?

Oh her dad (Richard Williams) is a real piece of work. Batshit insane and a race-bater to the core. Even tennis commentators walk on eggshells when discussing/interviewing him. Some of the things revealed in Michael Mewshaw's Ladies of the Court book detail what an ass Papa Williams is.

Posted by: Curly Mustard at October 13, 2009 04:52 PM (sOpAl)

199 I heard that someone told me that they heard from someone else that Chris Matthews is one of the frequent customers at the glory hole operated by Palin Steele.

Posted by: Unnamed source at October 13, 2009 04:52 PM (V9SYy)

200 Word. Did you see what we did to Capone?

Posted by: The Internal Revenue Service at October 13, 2009 04:51 PM (V9SYy)
Yeah, but did you see what I did to him?

Posted by: Syphilis at October 13, 2009 04:54 PM (VuLos)

201 What are the odds that the majority of owners lean right and don't want
income ripped from them to subsidize any number of idiotic government
schemes?

A fair number are Guilty White Liberals. The owners of the Steelers invented the "Rooney Rule", under which any team looking to hire a coach must buy lunch for Dennis Green before giving a white guy the position. (I know, the rule says something else, but in reality it's more like what I just typed).

Posted by: Ian S. at October 13, 2009 04:54 PM (p05LM)

202 lions, christ. that is crazy, so if i'm a decendant of amazonian women i can kill all boys cuz i feel like it's cultural thang? heck i like it. maybe we should have a american club thing. anyman after the age of 40 that won't comply, heck you're so finished, in the court of PC

Posted by: willows sick and tired at October 13, 2009 04:54 PM (GkYyh)

203 Yeah, but did you see what I did to him?
In the end, I always win.

Posted by: Death at October 13, 2009 04:55 PM (V9SYy)

204 So now Newsbusters has posted Sanchez' "Correction," of the slavery quote, which is actually more offensive than his original slander.

Posted by: notropis at October 13, 2009 04:55 PM (T+c8g)

205 I'm all for the meteor arriving, but I can't decide which kind is best. Chondritic? Nickel-iron? While the plume of a strike will prove the existence of water on Earth, I'm not so sure about the existence of intelligence. Not on the North American continent, at any rate.

Posted by: George Orwell at October 13, 2009 04:56 PM (AZGON)

206 We need a color quota here

Well, occasionally the blog has red on it too.

As far as Sullivan, suing and winning, etc., the purpose of the suit wouldn't necessarily be to win, it would be the discovery process. Hell, the first thing I'd do after filing suit is to send out a Request for Admissions in which the first question is "There is no primary source quote of Mr. Limbaugh himself making such statements, including but not limited to audio clips, transcripts, print articles and/or other published source." If the answer to that is "no" then the obligation is on the party answering it to attach documentation substantiating the denial. That? Could lead to all kinds of fun.


Posted by: alexthechick at October 13, 2009 04:56 PM (Q9bx2)

207 The owners of the Steelers invented the "Rooney Rule"
The Rooney who bought an ambassadorship from Obama, or one of his brothers?

Did I mention I'm looking forward to the Steelers getting sold to pay off the federal death tax when one of 'em goes the way of all flesh?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 13, 2009 04:57 PM (NtiET)

208 @ 156

Yeah, like libs ever watch football. It's merit-based, violent,
male-only, and there's only one winner at the end of the season.Not to mention the women forced to perform on the sidelines in hotpants, pandering to the objectifying male gaze.

You complete me.

I'm sorry, that came out wrong. I mean, uhhh, good point!

Posted by: bullfrog at October 13, 2009 04:57 PM (QnVIv)

209 Ace,

People who aren't leftists do not truly have an alternative to wikipedia, because conservatives keep wanting to "brand" things.

For example, you can go to conservapedia. Fzcking conservapedia? Who are they kidding? Also the doctors group that organized against Obamacare called itself "Conservatives For Patients Rights." Yeah, that title will get lots of open-minded "centeristas" surfing there to see what they can learn. Marketing, anyone?

The main problem isn't wikipedia itself (even though it sucks greenies), it's the lack of competition between wikipedia and "other sources" that are not (ahem) scholarly (which obviously leaves us out, but I digress). So alternate scholarly sites need to exist, but branding them something that looks like "Morons For Something Or Other" to anyone who isn't in on the joke is not the way to do it.

Steve and I joke about this a lot. He's a pro jazz drummer. He knows damned well that one of the best ways to keep jazz musicians from "hanging out" at a new club in town is to call the place "Jazz Musician's Club." I know you get this. It's why we never see any other cards from the deck here.

Posted by: K~Bob at October 13, 2009 04:57 PM (WtrwW)

210 PATTERSON, BELKNAPP, WEBB TYLER
Any coincidence that they issued a press release on September 21st announcing the formation of their sports group that offers representation to, among other things:
"Various investor groups as intellectual property counsel in their acquisitions and proposed acquisitions of Major League Baseball, National Hockey League and NASCAR teams."
Hmmmm.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 13, 2009 04:57 PM (sXLx/)

211
Maybe it's time to start editing liberal 'journalist's wiki entries with made up shit. For instance:

Chris Matthews blew a goat behind a bus while in college.

Or: Olbermann's great great great grandfather was a slave trader.

We'll see how these cocksuckers like it.


Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses at October 13, 2009 04:58 PM (0gyWr)

212 Oh her dad (Richard Williams) is a real piece of work. Batshit insane and a race-bater to the core.
TruFax. He makes Mel Gibson's dad look like the font of sanity in comparison.

Posted by: alexthechick at October 13, 2009 04:59 PM (Q9bx2)

213 Ah, remember when sports was a safe-zone and politics free? Memories.

Posted by: Winston at October 13, 2009 04:59 PM (FggW0)

214 Willow I'm not the boss of you, but I think you are missing my point, the msm will always allow a pass to whom they think are the victim even though they are not. At least it seems that way. Just ask Letterman.

Posted by: lions at October 13, 2009 05:01 PM (Ip9OL)

215 Chris Matthews blew a goat behind a bus while in college.

I saw it, I'll swear to it, and I have an artist's rendering to prove it.

Posted by: George Orwell at October 13, 2009 05:01 PM (AZGON)

216 Later, morons. I'm going home to listen to the podcast of Tony Dungy calling Rush a couple years ago.

(I wonder if that's why Olberdouche kept his Rush-related bile to a minimum Sunday night...didn't want Dungy pointing out on live national TV that he's a sack of shit. Politely, of course.)

Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 13, 2009 05:04 PM (NtiET)

217 213,

Maybe it's time to start editing liberal 'journalist's wiki entries with made up shit.

Great idea, except for the time factor. I recall PJ O'Rourke's comment on why you never see conservatives at protest rallies: "Conservatives have jobs."

When you're 35, unemployed, and living in your mom's basement, you have plenty of time to "edit" wikipedia (and troll moronblogs, but that's another story).

Posted by: bullfrog at October 13, 2009 05:04 PM (QnVIv)

218 @ 208
Oh, the ball-dipping that would ensue would cause a momentary pause in the Earth's rotation. CNN would be forced to cover their own lawsuit, kinda like the OJ trial.
Rush would "jip" it. Since his crackerjack team of lawyers would be doing the talking, he could narrate his own suit.
The possibilities are damned near endless.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 13, 2009 05:05 PM (ZGhSv)

219 Willow I'm not the boss of you
Posted by: lions
cute.. yes i know what you were driving at, i had to show my angst, that is all. ; p

Posted by: willows sick and tired at October 13, 2009 05:06 PM (GkYyh)

220 I dont know what the actual final outcome of the case was (other than him going to jail) but I do know that he was initially charged under Federal dog fighting Laws. I know that because I thought it seemed odd that the feds even had dog fighting laws since there is NOTHING in the Constitution that allows them to legislate such laws. I actually looked up the code he was charged under and they do have such laws in the U.S. code.

They could have changed the charge but he was originally indicted under the dog fighting laws.

Posted by: Vic at October 13, 2009 05:07 PM (CDUiN)

221 "It's why we never see any other cards from the deck here."

What the fuck you talking about?

Posted by: Seven of Clubs at October 13, 2009 05:07 PM (T+c8g)

222 @ 210 People who aren't leftists do not truly have an alternative to wikipedia, because conservatives keep wanting to "brand" things. For example, you can go to conservapedia. Fzcking conservapedia?

I'm hip. This is the Miss Black America Syndrome. African-Americans complain that not enough black contestants in the Miss America contest have led to a "segregation" of sorts, where integration is what's needed. So what do they do as an alternative? Instead of working to encourage more young black women to enter the Miss America contest and those achieve more parity among the races of the contestants, they establish a completely separate, overtly black-oriented contest for those same young black women -- thereby completely undermining the notion of integrating them into a more "mainstream" Miss America pageant.

The same can be said for "Conservative" book imprints for publishing houses. Why does conservatism need it's own publishing label? I guaran-damn-tee you liberal books don't need to be printed under the auspices of some overt "Liberal" imprint. This kind of thing is what propounds the culturally-ingrained notion that conservatism is indeed some kind of aberrant ideology that needs its own, separate category to differentiate it from the "regular" (i.e., left-liberal) one. To which I say, "Horseshit."

Posted by: Curly Mustard at October 13, 2009 05:08 PM (sOpAl)

223 I might reach an all time personal best for "Fuck them"s for a single day.

Posted by: Johnathan E. at October 13, 2009 05:08 PM (dQdrY)

224 Cracker Jacks? racist term. why is it allowed, we should sue everyone thar got a prize.

Posted by: willows sick and tired at October 13, 2009 05:09 PM (GkYyh)

225 @212

PATTERSON, BELKNAPP, WEBB TYLER


Any coincidence that they issued a press release on September 21st
announcing the formation of their sports group that offers
representation to, among other things:

"Various investor groups as intellectual property counsel in
their acquisitions and proposed acquisitions of Major League Baseball,
National Hockey League and NASCAR teams."


Hmmmm...That's nasty!
There's deep pockets behind these libels

Posted by: joeindc44 at October 13, 2009 05:09 PM (QxSug)

226 I loved how in that ABC interview when that pinheaded reporter asked Limbaugh if he was racist, he shot back with, "No. Are you?"
Perfect.

Posted by: Warden at October 13, 2009 05:10 PM (CL7aA)

227 Maybe it's time to start editing liberal 'journalist's wiki entries with made up shit. For instance:

Chris Matthews blew a goat behind a bus while in college.

It would probably be funnier if we made stuff up.


see what i did there?



Posted by: koopy at October 13, 2009 05:11 PM (N20uT)

228 Just like Pravda, Tass, Izvestia.
We've seen all this before.
Kangaroo courts and now kangaroo media.
Wouldn't ol' Marx be proud.

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at October 13, 2009 05:13 PM (41/pY)

229 Hey Chrissy take a long leap off a tall building you douche bag.

Posted by: SOME ASSHOLE HAS MY PEN at October 13, 2009 05:15 PM (VmAoa)

230 Why does conservatism need it's own publishing label?

Because otherwise the books don't get published.

Posted by: alexthechick at October 13, 2009 05:16 PM (Q9bx2)

231 Any connection anyone can find between Patterson, etc. Law Firm and Donald Watkins, the likely beneficiary of this brouhaha?

Watkins is the fraud whose name comes up periodically, whenever "black ownership" is mentioned in the NFL. A few years back, his widely-trumpeted attempt to buy the Vikings fell apart when it was found that his "investment team" basically had no money.

Posted by: notropis at October 13, 2009 05:17 PM (T+c8g)

232 Just got done sending Rush a note about racist jackass Terry Foster of 97.1FM The Ticket here in Detroit spreading the lie on this afternoon's show that Rush stated the quotes about slavery. A person wrote in to inform him that Rush never stated those quotes and Terry responded "I have to disagree with you". So yet ANOTHER racist jackass smearing Rush. Brilliant. I hope Rush sues his ass off the air.

Oh and as an added bonus, he rants about how Clarence Thomas has said anti-Black quotes and most Blacks don't like Clarence Thomas.

Just f'ing brilliant.

Posted by: Michael in MI at October 13, 2009 05:20 PM (ObTcs)

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Posted by: Spud at October 13, 2009 05:23 PM (iaMr2)

234
Why aren't we doing oppo research on the Wiki mutt, whitlock, Detroit dj's, the lot of them. Get out the checkbook and start investigating the mutts and destroying reputations just like the leftist trash does.

Posted by: Dang Straights at October 13, 2009 05:23 PM (Haq+B)

235 #185 #189

I've posted here and written letters to some media folks that I think truly understand "new media." (Guys like RSMcCain, and Hugh Hewitt, for example.) The point of those letters and posts is that the main players on the right need to have the balls to treat the NYT, and a few other members of the MSM as the minor-leaguers that they are.

People on the right who want the MSM to die a natural death need to stop trying to help the MSM to live past it's shelf life. Hewitt is always trying to help them see the light and suggest ways they can improve their online presence. I say let them die. It's the honorable thing to do. They need no help.

The garbage they spew does not need repeating, and in the vast majority of cases does not need a response. Better to build up the new media. Be like Rourke. Don't think about them.

Posted by: K~Bob at October 13, 2009 05:23 PM (WtrwW)

236 Mallamutt you are on fire today.....hot!
Just another tragic end result of The Zero Administration - race relations set back 50 years at least. You have a White House baiting Fox News, Limbaugh, Tea Partiers, etc. and the underlying theme is that their critism is not legitimate - just white people displaying their inner racist. The White House encourages these attacks as that is what they do - forget about governing - it is all about retaining and increasing their power.
As this continues the blow-back will be huge. The US as a whole doesn't operate the same as the Chicago Sewer Political Machine and the lies and smears and the continual wail of racist and it is GW Bush's fault has already worn very thin 9 months into the first year. I can't even imagine what our country will be like in 3 more years.
HeatherRadish @ 156 - LOL!

Posted by: Cheri at October 13, 2009 05:23 PM (G+Wff)

237 @ 232 Because otherwise the books don't get published.

Untrue. They've been published for many, many years without some specified "conservative" label. Publishing houses may indeed lean overwhelmingly to the left, but the notion that a conservative imprimature is needed just feeds the concept that "conservative" is a concept outside the cultural mainstream. Lots of houses that are identifiably liberal in their overall catalogue have published best-selling conservative books. Pocket -- hardly a "conservative" imprint -- published Limbaughs books, for instance.

Posted by: Curly Mustard at October 13, 2009 05:24 PM (sOpAl)

238 feelin da lov.

Posted by: willows sick and tired at October 13, 2009 05:25 PM (GkYyh)

239 @224: Agreed. The most successful non-liberal media operation in existence, FNC, is not labelled as "conservative" anywhere on it. And crap like Conservapedia makes me gag - it's largely indistinguishable from what would happen if you had Kos diarists parody what they think conservatives are like.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 13, 2009 05:28 PM (p05LM)

240 >Not to mention the women forced to perform on the sidelines in hotpants, pandering to the objectifying male gaze.

the Ravens have added male cheerleaders

Posted by: Cool Money Grip at October 13, 2009 05:28 PM (KOkrW)

241 "The same can be said for "Conservative" book imprints for publishing
houses. Why does conservatism need it's own publishing label?"

Good point, Curly. I dont buy politics books, but I know Rush mentions his publisher a lot, Simon Schuster (said in a fakey churman accent). Why do conservos need to always go to Regnery? Material suck? Probably. Write a good book. THen market it like anything else you produce, says I.

Posted by: K~Bob at October 13, 2009 05:34 PM (WtrwW)

242 The most successful non-liberal media operation in existence, FNC, is not labelled as "conservative" anywhere on it.

Fox does tilt to the left in their news. Just not as far as the other propaganda outfits. The biggest difference is their talk shows are largely conservative, except OReily.

Posted by: Vic at October 13, 2009 05:34 PM (CDUiN)

243 the Ravens have added male cheerleaders

Sign of the Apocalypse.

Posted by: zombie toto at October 13, 2009 05:34 PM (FhPAC)

244 RACIST!!!

Posted by: the left on anything and everything ever no matter what every single time always at October 13, 2009 05:35 PM (cMo6P)

245 If Rush is Kananga, what does that make Chris Matthews? Moneypenney? Blofeld?

Posted by: Felix Leiter at October 13, 2009 05:36 PM (RxpgP)

246 Go for the law suit Rush.Nothing like extra money when your group takes over the hapless Rams.Sharpton's crowd to boycott the Rams.Can't afford the tickets anyway.Sharpton's race hustling to stop the purchase won't work here.The NFL owners are too powerful.Boycott Sharpton's radio program.Forget that-no listeners to speak of.Its boycotted already for lack of substance.
Comsat is quite interested in purchasing NBC and aMessNBC as the booby prize.Looks like the White House might be hiring more hacks.Could happen.
Love putting misinformation on Wikipedia.Their screening is a sieve.Did the Levin surge.Got punted.
Gore allowed federal money to be used to mimic the Defense Dept. system that was the forerunner of the internet.Include all federal taxpayers if he claims the invention.He couldn't figure out LEGO if he had to.He should get an award for his inconvenient truth.O yea he did.2 awards for science fiction.He makes hockey sticks look bad.He's in love with federal money.

Posted by: chicocano at October 13, 2009 05:36 PM (ey7PK)

247 Well, I'm off to work some mo. Y'all keep things all het up while I'm gone.

Posted by: K~Bob at October 13, 2009 05:37 PM (WtrwW)

248 This kind of thing is what propounds the culturally-ingrained notion that conservatism is indeed some kind of aberrant ideology that needs its own, separate category to differentiate it from the "regular" (i.e., left-liberal) one. To which I say, "Horseshit."
Hmm. This is a very good point.
I don't agree with you at all in how you get there. I don't follow that it ingrains anything as aberrant.
I do agree your conclusion however, "Horseshit".
Anything labeled 'conservative' is effectively a niche and limits itself. (Note: as is anything labeled "liberal" or "democrat". There's a REASON they FAKE neutrality). It also automatically invokes politics into everything. And not everything should involve politics (especially from a conservative point of view of politics!)
Politics ideally has shitall to do with publishing houses or encyclopedias.
'Conservapedia' numbskulls would better spend their time getting into edit wars with lefty trolls at the well established, standard(and not explicitly political) wikipedia.
Conservative publishers ought just be publishers, who publish for profit same as any other publisher and compete for the whole damn market, all the better (for everyone, the publisher, the reader, the authors) that they be conservatives in that position when/if their biases leak through.

Posted by: Entropy at October 13, 2009 05:39 PM (cok/k)

249 Untrue. They've been published for many, many years without some specified "conservative" label.

Untrue. Only recently have some of the "normal" publishing houses started dealing with conservative books.
Malkins best seller currently on the charts is publshed by Regnery, a conservative outfit.
Mark Levin's "Libert And Tyranny" is published by a conservative branch of Simon Schuster.
And this is today, after many years of conservative best selling books.

Posted by: flenser at October 13, 2009 05:46 PM (Cm7Q1)

250 The Internet, it's a series of tubes!

Posted by: Ak Senator at October 13, 2009 05:49 PM (Ak7e8)

251 'Conservapedia' numbskulls would better spend their time getting into edit wars with lefty trolls at the well established, standard(and not explicitly political) wikipedia.
How do you suggest that they do that, given that the admins at Wikipedia are themselves lefty trolls?

Posted by: flenser at October 13, 2009 05:49 PM (Cm7Q1)

252 welcome back, Ace.
Glad to see you managed to break out of that Refridgerator Box and elude you Hobo captors!

Posted by: garrett at October 13, 2009 05:51 PM (Ak7e8)

253 So how is a raccoon (or "coon") digging into a box of Cracker Jax not racist. Clearly, she was making a statement about how "those people" are stealing what is rightfully ours.
Everyone knows wildlife would never prefer candy coated goodness over natural foods. Just ask PETA

Posted by: Laughingdog at October 13, 2009 05:52 PM (cqZXM)

254 Manson wasn't so bad. Just a little ahead of the pack on communal living. He was just being a good GREEN citizen reusing that old ranch and all.Ted Bundy was actually a GOOD guy...had to be ....after all one of America's All time favorite Dads, AL BUNDY was named in his honor....and hey, What about Pol Pot....combining two of Americas favorite pass times....Medical Marijuana and pole dancing!

Posted by: LibTardLogic at October 13, 2009 05:54 PM (rVJH4)

255 the well established, standard(and not explicitly political) wikipedia.
That's like saying that the New York Times is "not explicitly political". It's technically true. Andsubstantively false.

Posted by: flenser at October 13, 2009 05:56 PM (Cm7Q1)

256 I always love it when some idiot libtard attorney uses wiki in its court papers as a source. It is like playing air hocky alone.

Posted by: rightzilla at October 13, 2009 05:56 PM (rVJH4)

257 Finally!

Someone gets it...what do you think we were trying to tell you with all the Yogi and Boo-Boo cartoons!?!?

Always stealing from those fine white folks...God, 50 years and you finally get it!

Posted by: Hannah-Barbera at October 13, 2009 05:58 PM (Ak7e8)

258 How do you suggest that they do that, given that the admins at Wikipedia are themselves lefty trolls?
1) Persistence.
2) How do admins become admins?

Posted by: Entropy at October 13, 2009 05:59 PM (cok/k)

259 Yeah, Like WALLY and the BEAVER were not explicitly sexxxxual.

Posted by: rightzilla at October 13, 2009 06:00 PM (rVJH4)

260 Conservative church ladies SUCK ASS at slow marches.
Give it 10-20 more years and liberals will be charge of Regnery tooFFS.

Posted by: Entropy at October 13, 2009 06:00 PM (cok/k)

261 I mean think about it:
WALLY was always a dick to the Beaver....
.....and BEAVER was a little pussy!

Posted by: rightzilla at October 13, 2009 06:02 PM (rVJH4)

262 God tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're fucked.


Posted by: Braveheart at October 13, 2009 06:06 PM (FhPAC)

263 That's like saying that the New York Times is "not explicitly political". It's technically true. Andsubstantively false.
It doesn't have to be substantively true.
I'm telling you to effectively ignore it and treat it like a partisan battleground.
Then DO BATTLE. Do not retreat to your own little self-ostracized onclave.
This works where it can work. Even in my above example I said conservative publishers should not try to buy out liberal outfits but compete against them, but compete against them for the whole market using 'technical (but not substantive) neutrality'.
Just because your conservative and publish conservative books doesn't mean you have to be a conservative publisher. Liberals who publish liberal books aren't 'liberal publishers', just 'publishers'. Be a publisher. Don't ostracize yourself.
Fox News isn't conservative.
If you want to competewith the New York Times, don't put out a 'New York Conservative Herald'. Put out a 'New York Herald' and just happen to be conservatives, but not 'technically' so, just 'substantively' so.

Posted by: Entropy at October 13, 2009 06:13 PM (cok/k)

264 Fox does tilt to the left in their news. Just not as far as the other propaganda outfits.
The Republican party tilts to the left in their politics. Just not as far as the other political outfits.
So yeah- what do you expect from your news outlet? It's mainstream 'right wing', which constitutes diet-socialist.

Posted by: Entropy at October 13, 2009 06:19 PM (cok/k)

265 Welcome aboard Spud.
Load up all your empty brass and remember, dead-center mass.




Posted by: garrett at October 13, 2009 06:20 PM (Ak7e8)

266 If Rush is Kananga, what does that make Chris Matthews? Moneypenney? Blofeld?

Q's hapless assistant. Think of Beaker from The Muppet Show.

Speaking of Bond villians...Bill Gates is a monocle and a white cat away from becoming one. No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to upgrade to Windows 7!

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at October 13, 2009 06:23 PM (BDH94)

267 Charlie Harper is to the Democrat Party
As Alan Harper is to the Republican Party.

Posted by: Holger at October 13, 2009 06:24 PM (wwQxi)

268 Whatchu talkin' 'bout Matthews?

Posted by: Gary Coleman at October 13, 2009 06:35 PM (DrB2V)

269 Speaking of Bond villians...Bill Gates is a monocle and a white cat away from becoming one. No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to upgrade to Windows 7!
http://tinyurl.com/4bvqy

Posted by: Entropy at October 13, 2009 06:38 PM (cok/k)

270 Charlie Harper is to the Democrat Party
As Alan Harper is to the Republican Party.
Evelyn Harper= Olympia Snowe.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 13, 2009 06:40 PM (2qU2d)

271 In a libel or slander suit, the plaintiff has to prove that the defendant printed or aired a false statement, they knew it was false at the time and the plaintiff suffered financially. MSNBC aired a false statement (Rush made statements praising slavery), they knew it was false (no evidence exists he ever made the statement) and Rush has suffered financially (prevented from buying the St. Louis Rams and enjoying the potential profits).

If Rush play his cards right, not only will he own the Rams he may also own MSNBC.

Posted by: Aaron at October 13, 2009 06:43 PM (pVvKc)

272 Chrissy Matthews once said David Duke was a great American. I think I read that on Wikipedia. Then again, maybe I didn't.

Posted by: Reiver at October 13, 2009 07:00 PM (HUIrE)

273 One time Rush said he overheard James Farrior saying James Earl Ray was a good kisser. True story.

Posted by: Joe Plugs at October 13, 2009 08:02 PM (YCVBL)

274 How do admins become admins?
How do college professors become college professors? The existing ones pick the next generation, with an eye to their political leanings. You might as well argue that conservatives can somehow take over Columbia University. They can't. The structure in place is designed to prevent such a thing happening.

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Posted by: jason at October 13, 2009 09:22 PM (BR5SS)

276 No, I agree with flenser. You absolutely do not advance your cause by arguing it out with the dogmatic, damn-the-facts owners of the weakypedia. You might just as well propose to win by convincing all the kossacks you are right, and they are wrong; therefore they should hand you the passwords so you can run their website.

Wikipedia needs competition, plain and simple. Look in your library. You'll see lots of books that purport to be the definitive biography of Lincoln (for example). Some are written by lefties, some by righties, some by Libertarians who think Lincoln was the devil incarnate, some by vanity authors, some by bloody-minded cranks, and a small number of them written by careful, meticulous, reasonable historians (who will nevertheless disagree on some major issues). Now imagine that the librarian gets to choose one, and burn the rest. That's wikipedia.

Set your brain for the heart of the sun, baby, you only need wikipedia!

Posted by: K~Bob at October 13, 2009 09:32 PM (WtrwW)

277 I'd like to see Matthews croak during a round of particularly painful oral sex.

Posted by: The Barbed Cock of Satan at October 13, 2009 09:45 PM (QECjC)

278 Has anyone else noted the irony:the trouble that Rush is facing with the playersunion pertains to statements he madeto the effect that a black player was receiving undue praise, and now the legacy media seem to have "rediscovered" "quotes" from Rushre-enforcing the narative thathe said this because he's a racist, just in time to distract from the fact that the world seemsintent onshowering a black President with undue praise?

Posted by: Marty at October 14, 2009 02:09 AM (c+sVx)

279 Slavery. It gets Sh!t done.

Posted by: Yogimus at October 14, 2009 03:00 AM (G14P8)

280 "And offer the word "cited" in the supposed attribution to give the quote some kind of superficial authority."

Watch FOX at any time on any day, their favorite comment is, Some people say, followed by what is usually a lie or a completely out of context quote.

The right makes things up all the time; death panels ring a bell.

Posted by: CDO at October 14, 2009 07:22 AM (qbw48)

281 CDO

"death panels" was not a lie. That's why the Democrats went back and rewrote the section in question.

More to the point, so what? What Palin said was rationally defensible based on the ambiguous language of the proposed legislation. Smearing someone as a racist based on wholly fabricated quotes -- let me guess -- you're okay with that? You admit it's happening. That's why you fall back on a tu quoque defense. It's all you got.

It is one thing to attack legislation and bend interpretation towards your point of view. That's what politics is about. That is why legislation should be written clearly -- to prevent to much of that. It is something else entirely to attack a private citizen with fabrications as your evidence. That's just evil. If you are cool with what MSNBC is doing, then you are a cretin.

Posted by: caspera at October 14, 2009 09:03 AM (pK+Zi)

282 I'm black. I've been listening to Rush since 1991. He's no racist. Obama is pushing this agenda so that Rush will be too busy defending himself to analyze and attack Obama's idiocies. The MSM is carrying Obama's potty water.

Posted by: rushfan at October 14, 2009 09:34 AM (BoP9T)

283 You know what happens when you assume, Ace....

Posted by: jrlns at October 14, 2009 06:20 PM (nz09n)

284 These assholes are getting worse. There is now a youtube video that includes the slavery has benefits "quote" and it has someone reading it as if they are Rush.

http://bit.ly/4KEIn

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