1 The funny thing is that some of his news sites provide a google specific sitemap pointing out where all of the articles to index are.

2

Oh, no! Now Rupert will have to settle for golden faucets instead of the platinum ones he wanted. 8=^(

3

Lying Capitalist whores all!

/

4

open blog = Ray Gun = Honest Cloud = Flag@wh.gov?

I can't keep up.

5 But Lou...! Rupert is a meanie.

6


Rupert what ? Hopefully he and Soros can share a casket together. Yea, Fox is alright and mostly benign but most of us get our news from alternative media sources anyway.

Go fuck yourself Murdoch.

7
I forgot to add, Breitbart is where its at now. Screw you you Kangaroo fucking bastard.

8

Blazer

Rupert is a businessman who recognized the need for something other than 24/7 LIBERAL news, and filled it.

Period.

Maybe he first noted that Conservative books and radio sell?

9 I blame Michael Moore.

10 Why don't they just plug in their pay-for-content model?  It has worked so well elsewhere.

I wonder if he notices that a lot of people don't read his crap unless some blogger sucks us in?

11

It's a do-looping symbiotic relationship.

Imagine the emptiness of most blogs if MSM news articles weren't heavily 'sampled'. Imagine the lost revenue that most news Liberal legacy outlets would suffer w/o bloggers and posters clicks, pastes and copies.

Both bitch about the other.

12 Rupert who?

13 Screw you, capitalism didn't do shit for me.

14 I don't like Rupert, either. He's about as conservative as Allahpundit, i.e. probably a fiscal conservative but perfectly fine with letting the country slide into the sewer with the social issues. Rupert likes tabloid trash. Read his UK papers. They're fucking garbage. They talk about the British people like they're children that need to be controlled. You see the tabloid element on Fox. Geraldo is there. Their website always has the latest gossip about the airheads in LA.

15 Bitching billionaires don't move the needle on the sympathy meter.

They do move the needle on the STFU meter.

16 Leave Rupert Alone! you hairbrains, it's not like we have an abundance of media at least somewhat on our side.

17 14,

True dat.

The Fox website is a tee and ay splash page.

If they could rate news stories with an erecto-nipple graphic they would do so in a heartbeat.

18

Arguably the best and most balanced Sunday morning program, Fox News Sunday, and the moderator/host is a registered Democrat.

Just sayin', take support where you can find it.

19

I remember reading an article where the author mentioned how much Murdoch loves gossip. Loved it to the point of being like an old queen about it. Fox really is a reflection of Murdoch.

Why can't we get a real conservative to start a news network?

20

O/T Thunder Strike Helo Pron. http://tinyurl.com/yzdk4tj

 

21

17

And what's wrong with T & A??

Especially if, like Kelley, there's a thoughtful and well-spoken head attached.

Sexist pig!

/

22

Why can't we get a real conservative to start a news network?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 11, 2009 07:59 PM (P33XN)

Because someone would say something that you don't think is pure enough and you would start bashing them too.

23

Yeh, and Ace has been stealing my material for years. He thinks it up, writes about it and then I'm all "oh, I would have thought of that if he hadn't already written, man".

Stealing. It's wrong, even when it's all in your head.

24

Just to make sure I get this right, if I google something that links to Fox's site, and click on it, I'm stealing.

Got it, thanks Rupert.

And in other news... "Home Taping is Killing Music and It's Illegal!".

25 Did anybody besides me not understand a fucking word he just said?

26 I will try to explain how it takes revenue away from a news source.

Lets say someone generally checked their newspaper every day but has since switched to google news.  Google news might have a story but they will list several sources for the content.  Changes are Murdoch's paper isn't the first source listed.  It might not even be in the top five sources.  If a user reads a story, they generally click on the first link given to the story.

So a user going to Google News goes to the news sources that are favored by Google News. 

Go to news.google.com and see how many stories have links to Murdoch's properties.  I just looked and saw exactly zero.  news.google.com is a news portal that is trying to take the place of people's local or traditional news portal.  The user can not set their preference for what sources they want listed first.  Google controls where that revenue goes.

27

Because someone would say something that you don't think is pure enough and you would start bashing them too.

That should leave a mark.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This open blog guy is a rabble-rouser.  Ace needs to keep an eye on him.

/

28

Did anybody besides me not understand a word he just said?

He..?

29 Rupert needs to make an alternative to google.

Google isn't stealing money from Rupert if the customer uses google first instead of going directly to Fox.

Stop squealing for protection and make a counter move.

Call it "nipple"

30 Anyone who understands that third para should be decently fed and decently shot.

31

This is the circular firing squad-AoSHQ Edition.

 

32

Why can't we get a real conservative to start a news network?

Because there's no need for it. Conservatives control the radio waves, who gives a shit about cable?

33

This is the circular firing squad-AoSHQ Edition.

Heh. It's not nearly as satisfying as the circle-jerk I center each day at LGF.

 

34 "Leave Rupert Alone! you hairbrains, it's not like we have an abundance of media at least somewhat on our side."

Stupid comments are stupid comments and should be called out left or right.

35

Why can't we get a real conservative to start a news network?

Who's stopping you? You could even apply for some stimulus funds.

/

36

LEAVE RUPERT ALOOOOOOOONNNNNNEEEEEE.

I mean it!

37 So a user going to Google News goes to the news sources that are favored by Google News. 

Go to news.google.com and see how many stories have links to Murdoch's properties.  I just looked and saw exactly zero.  news.google.com is a news portal that is trying to take the place of people's local or traditional news portal.  The user can not set their preference for what sources they want listed first.  Google controls where that revenue goes.

Posted by: crosspatch at October 11, 2009 08:07 PM (ZbLJZ)

I just looked and saw one for Fox, out of their top three stories.

Don't get me wrong, I think Google are slime (for other reasons), but Rupert Murdoch pretending that's it's theft, is just idiotic.

38 Stupid comments are stupid comments and should be called out left or right.

Posted by: Just Another Poster at October 11, 2009 08:19 PM (HAdov)

Well it does seem to be the best way to get your 15 minutes of fame on MSNBC, good luck to ya!

39 "Leave Rupert Alone!

40

Who's stopping you? You could even apply for some stimulus funds.

 

No you're not asshole!

41 16 Leave Rupert Alone! you hairbrains, it's not like we have an abundance of media at least somewhat on our side.

Posted by: robtr at October 11, 2009 07:56 PM (/1QEK)

really? FOX news is by far the number one news channel on cable. conservatives absolutely OWN the talk radio airwaves. liberal rags are losing money left, right, center. the blogosphere is consistently won by the conservative side. how do you figure our side doesn't have an abundance of media coverages?

42 Why can't we get a real conservative to start a news network?

Network?!?  We have the whole vast right wing conspiracy network!  No mere print or broadcast media can compete with our brain waves!!  _^(boy)

43 36  Psych!

44 "Leave Rupert Alone!

Posted by: Rewrite! at October 11, 2009 08:23 PM (UaSIe)

I thought you had an overdub, now that would be funny.

45

43 36  Psych!

 

Psych-o.

46 "Don't get me wrong, I think Google are slime (for other reasons), but Rupert Murdoch pretending that's it's theft, is just idiotic."

Especially since foxnews.com specifically allows google to index them and provides them a list of all the articles to index.  It is easy to opt out.  His real problem is he doesn't like aggregators.  If I was a news provider, I'd hate them too, but they can't opt out because there isn't too much original content in generic news anymore.  What do they all expect, all most of them do is just copy AP feeds.  Its no wonder there is no value add to most news organizations.

47

really? FOX news is by far the number one news channel on cable...

That made my head hurt.

48 47

really? FOX news is by far the number one news channel on cable...

That made my head hurt.

Posted by: Rewrite! at October 11, 2009 08:27 PM (UaSIe)

try reading it slower next time.

49 Psych-o.

50

try reading it slower next time.

There's no helping that.  It defies reading and math comprehension.

51 49 Psych-o.

Posted by: Nobody told me not to mow that carpet at October 11, 2009 08:29 PM (UaSIe)

 

You know, you're this weeks lover now. Ha Ha.

52 That made my head hurt.

Its a tumor.

53 50

try reading it slower next time.

There's no helping that.  It defies reading and math comprehension.

Posted by: wewite! at October 11, 2009 08:31 PM (UaSIe)

Then may I suggest you avoid public educations in your future?

54

really? FOX news is by far the number one news channel on cable. conservatives absolutely OWN the talk radio airwaves. liberal rags are losing money left, right, center. the blogosphere is consistently won by the conservative side. how do you figure our side doesn't have an abundance of media coverages?

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Occasional Meteor at October 11, 2009 08:24 PM (erIg9)

Uhmm I dunno, maybe because on any one night NBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, PBS, Telemundo reach about 20 Million viewers to foxes 3 Million (it was fox I was defending by the way) as for the print media the New York Times and Washington Post Websites combined get several million hits per day plus however many million people subscribe to all the newpapers in the US and visit their websites daily.

Conservative talk radio is dominent as far as talk radio goes but there are a whole bunch of people who never listen to AM radio that do listen to the major networks at night

55 His real problem is he doesn't like aggregators.  If I was a news provider, I'd hate them too, but they can't opt out because there isn't too much original content in generic news anymore.  What do they all expect, all most of them do is just copy AP feeds.  Its no wonder there is no value add to most news organizations.

Posted by: Just Another Poster at October 11, 2009 08:27 PM (HAdov)

While scrambling for protection, they entirely miss the point of why they need protection in the first place. They are not adding any real value to the process.

 

56

Who's stopping you? You could even apply for some stimulus funds.

Bullshit, that Federal money is coming to us!

57 What Murdoch needs to do is encourage (with $$$ and web skills) those self selecting aggregators (Ace, etc.) and communities (CJ's links page is an example - I've been banned too don't flame me) which feed his content engines.  Multiple independent referrers boost Google rankings and add "flavor".

If he wants me to me to pay for content I expect a highly personalized product delivered by hot FOX chicks, that is somewhat exclusive -- like the old Early Bird when it was hand delivered by a cute young USAF E3 (along with the coffee).

58 My cat's breath smells like cat food.

59

Did Uncle Farts leave off a triple sarc tag on that comparative drivel?

/

Love to see his analyses of Custer's Last Stand and Waterloo.

///dripping sarc

60 Uhmm I dunno, maybe because on any one night NBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, PBS,


FOX news is by far the number one news channel on cable.

which part of, on cable, did I happen to stutter over?

print is still bleeding readers and cash like a stuck pig.

and, I'd be willing to bet, that the totals of people that listen to AM talk radio shows, far outstrip the numbers of ignorant fools watching the legacy media at 630pm.

61 You know what's really funny, though? Barry hates fags. Can't stand them. He hates them so much he doesn't even want to associate with them long enough to use them as shock troops against the culture. I think the relationship between Barry and gays could erupt into a full scale war.  I think gays know Barry hates them.

62 I wonder if the reason Fox has so much tabloid stuff is that the other networks don't carry that, so people who are looking for stories about celebrity scandals and stuff end up at the Fox News site almost automatically, while if they are looking for news on Obama, there are many more choices and thus less likely to wind up at Fox.

I am not a big expert on this but it does seem logical, which may be why Murdoch has such an interest in tabloid trash: it's a money making aspect of the news.

There HAS to be a reason why Greta spent a gazillion hours on the Anna Nichole Smith story.

63 59

Did Uncle Farts leave off a triple sarc tag on that comparative drivel?

/

Love to see his analyses of Custer's Last Stand and Waterloo.

///dripping sarc

Posted by: You're disingenuously Stoopit at October 11, 2009 08:39 PM (UaSIe)

if I meant to write /sarc, I would have. feel free to fuck off at any time.

64 58 My cat's breath smells like cat food.

Posted by: dogfish at October 11, 2009 08:39 PM (sGaoh)

Mine too!  There must be a vast right wing conspiracy amongst teh kittehs afoot!

65

Uhmm I dunno, maybe because on any one night NBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, PBS, Telemundo reach about 20 Million viewers to foxes 3 Million (it was fox I was defending by the way) as for the print media the New York Times and Washington Post Websites combined get several million hits per day plus however many million people subscribe to all the newpapers in the US and visit their websites daily.

Can he understand greatly outnumbered (and resourced) for many decades?

Seriously, can he?

66 The recent protests in Iran were covered by folks using cellphones and twitter. This and things like it are the wave of the future.

If Rupert were paying attention he would find ways to join the new game.

67 I must have hit the big time, I have my own personal troll.

68 Come over here and say that, Stoopit!

69 i know this is changing the subject, but  i caught some Rams-Limbaugh ownership coverage on ESPN and the douchebags on there were taking cheap shot after cheap shot, the one that pissed me off the most was one comment that went, "I know the owner of the Blues, i have no idea why he's taking up with the likes of Limbaugh." the NFL players' association sickens me too w/ their response, let's face it most NFL players are black so no secret there why they'd oppose. no wonder more and more people have tuned out ESPN for Fox Sports Radio.

70 and, I'd be willing to bet, that the totals of people that listen to AM talk radio shows, far outstrip the numbers of ignorant fools watching the legacy media at 630pm.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Occasional Meteor at October 11, 2009 08:40 PM (erIg9)

 

Maybe so but I would also bet that the majority of people that listen to talk radio also either read the frigging newspaper each day or watch the news. If you think talk radio has it covered though fine. Let's bash Fox because Rupert is a frigging capitalist. We all can agree on hatin on those guys.

71 And I'll bet that you're a NJ fattie, too!

72

If they could rate news stories with an erecto-nipple graphic they would do so in a heartbeat.

Wot's wrong with that, guv'nor?

73

i caught some Rams-Limbaugh ownership coverage on ESPN

And yet, they ABUSE us with KO.

Don't expect Uncle Farts to understand the imbalance. Ratios are hard for thin-skinned people.

74

Page 3 Girl.

Page 3 is the UK's way of saying Good Morning, Readers! Time to get up!

Wankers.

75

Maybe so but I would also bet that the majority of people that listen to talk radio also either read the frigging newspaper each day or watch the news. If you think talk radio has it covered though fine. Let's bash Fox because Rupert is a frigging capitalist. We all can agree on hatin on those guys.

Posted by: robtr at October 11, 2009 08:46 PM (/1QEK)

I'd bet that they don't read that newspaper everyday. readerships of all the majors are way down. at best, they're grabbing the headlines off of web sources. that's quite the nonsequitur you have going with your second and third sentences. what exactly are you attempting to say? because I assert that talk radio is dominated by conservative voices, I somehow make the leap to bashing Rupert?

76 66 The recent protests in Iran were covered by folks using cellphones and twitter. This and things like it are the wave of the future.

If Rupert were paying attention he would find ways to join the new game.

Posted by: eman at October 11, 2009 08:44 PM (tXuig)

Spreading some dollars back to citizen journalists on a regular basis could pop a whole new world - like amateur pron.

77 "i caught some Rams-Limbaugh ownership coverage on ESPN"

And the left says FoxNews is biased.  Bunch of dumb sheep some people are.

78 That's one sure way to get a time out!   Okay, both of you knock it off and go to your rooms. 

79

Spreading some dollars back to citizen journalists on a regular basis could pop a whole new world - like amateur pron.

Posted by: Jean at October 11, 2009 08:53 PM (xCBQ4)

Why is it that some of the least attractive people insist on doing armature porn?

Why! Oh God WHY!?

80 If they could rate news stories with an erecto-nipple graphic they would do so in a heartbeat.

Wot's wrong with that, guv'nor?

Posted by: Page 3 Girl

Nuthin', Luv.

It's just that a site called Fox News, IMHO, could use fewer stories about how many tubas Paris Hilton found in her ass last week.

81

Posted by: Just Another Poster at October 11, 2009 08:55 PM (HAdov)

they say FOX is bias because they don't bend over for Obama the way ABC, CNN, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNBC, ESPN, & Others Do. The fact 1 network dares not to bend over for dear leader means it must be some right wing hate network that is bias and must be destroyed even though it's kicking everyone else's ass in ratings

82

There's a sign post just down the street from your house; go argue with it.

OTOH, anyone who summons bacon can't be all that bad.

83 82

There's a sign post just down the street from your house; go argue with it.

OTOH, anyone who summons bacon can't be all that bad.

Posted by: Uncle Farts at October 11, 2009 08:58 PM (UaSIe)

Why would I do that, you and the post seem to be readily interchangeable.

84

Maybe so but I would also bet that the majority of people that listen to talk radio also either read the frigging newspaper each day or watch the news. If you think talk radio has it covered though fine. Let's bash Fox because Rupert is a frigging capitalist. We all can agree on hatin on those guys.

Posted by: robtr at October 11, 2009 08:46 PM (/1QEK)

Absolutely not.  Have you ever read a proposal from a ad firm on the demographic penetration of the different media and their relative costs?  A better complementary buy is newsprint and local /network TV.  Talk radio feeds billboards, sports related buys, and prime-time buys.  

85

Uncle Farts at October 11, 2009 08:58 PM (UaSIe)

Careful there, son. You goin' after Unclefacts, you need to bring the big guns. I don't think you got it in ya. I think you're a little light in the loafers.

86 79,

One man's barf festival is another man's orgy.

87 dack, leave him be, he MY troll! MINE!

you all can share poon, this one's mine.

88

Roger Friedman, Queen of celebrity gossip and long time Fox News employee, got fired for writing an article about illegally downloading the movie Wolverine. That was some weapons grade funny right there.

89

 because I assert that talk radio is dominated by conservative voices, I somehow make the leap to bashing Rupert?

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Occasional Meteor at October 11, 2009 08:52 PM (erIg9)

Yeah we seem to have gotten off track, this whole thread is about bashing rupert, not you in particular. I said leave him alone because he is one of the few that sometimes has a conservative point of view, you said no he's not there are plenty but you included fox in the plenty and it went on from there.

So sorry if you took it wrong. One point though, just because newspapers are losing money it dosen't people are not reading them, They are only they are not paying for it. I think that was Rupert's point about google. Google aggrigates news other organizations pay to produce so the ads go to google and not Rupert because google takes all of the other peoples stuff for free and puts it in one place.

90 Two Uncles enter. One Uncle leaves.

91

Why is it that some of the least attractive people insist on doing armature porn?

Why! Oh God WHY!?

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at October 11, 2009 08:56 PM (H7Rlw)

and yet it gets watched, people like the realism - I think Fox could work with that approach.  I would perfer to watch a jerky cell clip narrated by a witness citizen (introduced by M Kelley, of course) then a recap by some local Fox hack with a stringer cameraman.

92 Two Uncles enter. One Uncle leaves.

Rated R

Starting Mel Gibson & Bruce Willis

93

Careful there, son. You goin' after Unclefacts, you need to bring the big guns. I don't think you got it in ya. I think you're a little light in the loafers.

Another MSNBC partisan? Ha, I've got you surrounded.

94

Starting Mel Gibson & Bruce Willis

90 minutes of them standing there hitting each other in the nuts.

95 In the background is elitism. All news folks are infected with it to some degree.

The very term "citizen journalist" betrays their bias. Journalists are not deputized nor in the military nor police. It's just a freeking job.

96 "Another MSNBC partisan?"

SOB, figures of all the blogs out there, the lone MSNBC viewer picks this one to troll.

97

Another MSNBC partisan? Ha, I've got you surrounded.

We speak English here, mio. I'm telling you that so the next time you post you've got a better than 50% of making sense.

98 robtr, no worries, this place isn't an echo chamber.

I guess my contention that print media is based more on where they used to be so completely dominant, and today, not so much.

they're getting beat to the punch on so many news stories, blatantly refusing to cover others, and leaving their naked liberalism out there for the average person to compare with other venues. it's taking its toll on them, and they're losing readership to other sources. like AOSHQ for example.

99

OT - Krauthammer - For us all to fail, someone has to decide that it's for our own good - even if we don't know what's good for us.

http://tinyurl.com/ykjboef

Via Solomonia

100

50% chance of making sense, that is.

I have a 0% of making sense.

101 Does anyone see the irony in the fact that Murdoch was giving these comments in Beijing?

102 I guess my contention that print media

should read: about print media...


I'm all giddy that I have my very own troll, I miswrote that.

103

Page 3 is the UK's way of saying Good Morning, Readers! Time to get up!

Wankers.

Oh. Just like you boys goin' to a 'Ooters restaurant for your mornin' cuppa.

104 101 Does anyone see the irony in the fact that Murdoch was giving these comments in Beijing?

Posted by: Jean at October 11, 2009 09:17 PM (xCBQ4)

That struck me as disingenuous, but then again it was lost in a sea of self-serving stupid.

Like most elitist, he thinks his customers are rubes that need to be told what to think. It did remind me of some equally moronic television executive that, some years ago, described people that videotape programs and fast forward through the commercials as "thieves".

105

SOB, figures of all the blogs out there, the lone MSNBC viewer picks this one to troll.

I hear you! Uncle is so obviously an apologist for MSNBC and MSM.

106 Ok instead of citizen journalist - a 1099 reimbursed, independent contractor signed to per piece contracts as required.  If people got to know Fox or Beitbart regularly paided 500 - 1K for good video or a near print ready story, I think the market could explode and the AP wither.

107 http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/10/not-a-photoshop.html


It has come to this.

108 106, jean, yep.

109

Oh. Just like you boys goin' to a 'Ooters restaurant for your mornin' cuppa.

Hooters is too juvenile, and the food (IF that have anything besides wings) sucks.  Not my A-cups o' tea, in cheap stretcth polyester.

110

I hear you! Uncle is so obviously an apologist for MSNBC and MSM.

Posted by: Uncle Farts at October 11, 2009 09:22 PM (UaSIe)

junior, when I require shit from you, I'll pick your teeth. Now, go get your fucking shine box.

111 102 I guess my contention that print media

should read: about print media...


I'm all giddy that I have my very own troll, I miswrote that.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Occasional Meteor at October 11, 2009 09:17 PM (erIg9)

Can I speak openly? Of course I can.

I think you have your own troll because you created your own troll. You needlessly peed on someone, whom* is now peeing back.

*or is that who?

112

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113  like AOSHQ for example.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Occasional Meteor at October 11, 2009 09:14 PM (erIg9)

Well maybe, but most of Ace's posts link to mainstream media articles don't they? Ace has his own original and most of the time hilarious take on the article he's linking to but none the less someone had to pay someone to write the original article.

I think the news producers ie: papers and such are trying to find a way that we don't read their stuff for free and at least if we do read it for free we have to be on their website where they control the revenue from ads and not on google's site where we can skim through and only read something we are interested in.

114 107 http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/10/not-a-photoshop.html


It has come to this.

Posted by: eman at October 11, 2009 09:23 PM (tXuig)

I admire his restraint in not blaring Obama ـber Alles to all of his neighbors.

115

Can I speak openly? Of course I can.

I think you have your own troll because you created your own troll. You needlessly peed on someone, whom* is now peeing back.

*or is that who?

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at October 11, 2009 09:27 PM (H7Rlw)

course you can, it's a mostly free country. it's sunday evening, of COURSE I'm going to pee on the troll. think you had the whom correct, btw.

116 @107 I stared at that so hard there is now a smoking hole of disbelief and anger in my monitor.

117 robtr: was being facetious about AOSHQ as an example. it does though tie in with what I'm saying. People instead of having that pulp rag on their kitchen table every morning, are more and more getting the headlines from other sources. not necessarily the paper itself.

118 116 @107 I stared at that so hard there is now a smoking hole of disbelief and anger in my monitor.

Posted by: dappershoes at October 11, 2009 09:32 PM (BhiZr)

that's a flag I'd have no problem burning.

119 I think the news producers ie: papers and such are trying to find a way that we don't read their stuff for free and at least if we do read it for free we have to be on their website where they control the revenue from ads and not on google's site where we can skim through and only read something we are interested in.

Posted by: robtr

Ok, what if you buy a newspaper and read it to a friend over the phone? Do you owe the newspaper more money?

The old models that linked money to information to access to the information are disintegrating, and players are scrambling to come up with something new or to hold onto the past.

It will be years before this is finally hashed out, if ever.

120 So when does the Newsweek cover proudly proclaiming "We're all Obamanists now" come out?

121

course you can, it's a mostly free country. it's sunday evening, of COURSE I'm going to pee on the troll. think you had the whom correct, btw.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Occasional Meteor at October 11, 2009 09:31 PM (erIg9)

If you really know him to be a troll, then by all means take a break while I unzip my fly and join you, but I think he just misread your original statement and didn't catch the word "cable".

...but I could be totally wrong too.

I only mention it because I have been called a troll too because I disagreed with someone here on a minor policy difference, and the next thing I knew he was wishing cancer on my and my family. I would have been offended, has it not been so laughably insane, but he really meant it. He later apologized.

Oh well.

122

unclefacts,

I agree, I don't know what the outcome will be. Rupert isn't the only one saying the present way is unsustainable though. Like you said. Newpapers and magazines are closing weekly it seems.

123 hey guys, you should see how the re-pubic-cans are whining now over their he-god fox news king lmao!!!!

124

Allright, the only way to get this State of California back in line is as followes:

All wages earned, will be based on the private sector.

You DMV  asswipes WILL Accept the lower wage. Half.

You CALTRANS shovel leaners...30.00 per hour is a joke. Half.

State and County do nuthins. Half.

Govenator/Half

Wanna make a dif? Half.

125

oops, this isn't huffpo, forget that last one

seriously, when billionaires cry about losing money, my pee pee gets happy

126

207 It has come to this.

Thanks for sharing.  yes it has, and I fear that the Obaminites will only get worse.

Clinically, another case of Fox News Overwhelm ^TM

Fox News is everywhere, destroying minds daily.

/ Forgive me, Lord.

127 robtr: interesting times, no?

jim, not all that upset about him, it's a humorous diversion for a bit, on a slow, crap sunday evening.

128 Google blows.  I switched to Bing a few weeks ago as a search engine and haven't looked back.  For ordinary searching Bing was producing a lot better results.

I deleted all my Google bookmarks

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I'm stuck here watching VH1. By choice.

Vee H F*cking ONE!

Good God kill me now.

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now about windows7...........

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just saying

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Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 11, 2009 09:49 PM (A4soF)

I use bing and like it too, I never did use google. I woke up one morning and google had downloaded a bunch of software on my computer and I took offense to that. They emailed me and said why did you delete our stuff?  I emailed them back and said because I don't like liberals and that was the end of it.

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Posted by: navycopjoe at October 11, 2009 09:51 PM (V7y4z)

I know, it's just sad. It even sadder that I have no shred of ego left to even care any more, I'm just a husk of my former-self as I have grown into the man I once made fun of.

Windows 7 will be an improvement, but I'm perfectly happy with Vista. Maybe I should add that to the list of things I should keep to myself?

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OT

Bign James got banned this morning.  How dare he disagree with The Green One!

p.s.  when was the reveal? When Chas' changed from neocon to far-left Liberal?  Surely there was a reveal..?  Can I buy a video on Chas' Amazon site?

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Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Occasional Meteor at October 11, 2009 09:53 PM (erIg9)

Technically, it's VH1 classic. So that's not as bad. Right?

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Fox isn't perfect by any stretch but to reach for the shit flinging key at the drop of the hat is just asinine.

Rupert's watching over his interests, however poorly his tactics may be. That's what capitalists do; they mind their business as opposed to becoming a politician and minding all of our business.

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Who* the Hell is "Bign James "?

*or is that whom?

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I just didn't think they hired girls who were "morning people" - or at least I always hoped not.

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Windows 7 will be an improvement, but I'm perfectly happy with Vista. Maybe I should add that to the list of things I should keep to myself? Posted by: Jim in San Diego

I've never been terribly impressed with any MS product but Win7 is shaping up to be something to look forward to.

Maybe it'll be so good that we can put Windows stickers on our cars and cut-n-paste a standard reply to anyone asking for help on a Mac, "Just get a PC."

... On second thought, perhaps it's best to leave the snotty attitudes to Mac users.

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the hooters here in honolulu have girls you can hire but they are more evening people if you know what i mean...

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i'm a pc and my wife is a mac, just like i'm a democrat and she's a republican, good times here

my little one wants a new laptop for her bday and she wants a macbook, i need to save her quick before she becomes hairy and stops bathing

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absolutely

i am using 7 now and this lappy is dual booted with vista and 7

the biggest problem i have is with the usb ports, sometimes they work sometimes they don't ex. the printer won't work on 7, same with my ipod charger but in vista works great

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i'm a pc and my wife is a mac, just like i'm a democrat and she's a republican, good times here

You're a what??, could you put you wife on please?

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she's turning 8 but she a gamer already, so the question is, will a mac play crysis? (even though she can't)

there is always boot camp to dual boot her macbook i guess

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Microsoft was kind enough to send me a signature version of Win7 Ultimate. I let my Technet subscription expire, I guess I should renew that thing.

I'm thinking of getting an Intel 80GB SSD Gen II for my Son's laptop, and maybe an additional one for my desktop. I also have a weird desire to grab an i7 too, which means gutting the existing Q6600 machine I'm on now, and starting over. Too bad because I was just getting used to Windows being such a pig I just decided to go all overkill on my home computer last year. I mean 8GB of DDRII and an overclocked quad-core should be just enough to run IE8.

Right?

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yeah i know, but i'm from chicago, its in our blood like being a cubbies fan

but i am one of those hardcore blue dogs, but with one major exception and a couple small ones, i am more conservative than most republicans

and incredibly good looking if i may add that too

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Posted by: Jean at October 11, 2009 10:08 PM (xCBQ4)

I like the cut of your jib. I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.

For my daughter's birthday I almost made her a hackentosh out of a Dell mini-10, but she didn't want it.

160 158 Jim, go see what chemjeff built for himself on last nights thread.  12Gb Ram - i7

Posted by: Jean at October 11, 2009 10:13 PM (xCBQ4)

No I missed that. So that means I'll have to go with 16GB then, and RAID-0 my SSDs. I bet I would get all the girls!

161

i am more conservative than most republicans

yeah the bar is pretty low these days.

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note:  sorry to steal the thread chad

to get an i7 you need a new motherboard but the new asus' aren't that expensive

ssd's ROCK!!!!!!!!!!! like an 80's hairband, go to newegg for some good ones, i would go with an ssd for the os and a huge 7200rpm for storage

i use two 128gig torqx in raid0 in the lappy, i should be getting 440read/400write speeds aka batshit fast

163 with regards to dual booting, does it like partitions with EXT2 filesystems and inodes other then 128? (not to go ubergeek on this moron blog, but I haven't really been paying attention to the Win7 hype.)

164 oops, ont is up, move this there and i'll post what chamjeff is getting

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I never called you a troll.  We did not have a "minor policy difference." 

I hyper-reacted to a snide little lefty-think comment you shit through your keyboard.  I apologized for my that reaction.

If you cannot understand why what you were trying to pull is dead wrong, and you insist on mischaracterizing what happened, then go fuck yourself.

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Sound like fun to you?

167 Gentlemen, please. Let's just suck each others dicks and call it a day.

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The motion picture industry fought the video player industries tooth and nail when they came out. The irony is that the video player (tapes and dvds) bailed them out and ended up being a bigger moneymaker for them than theatrical releases or broadcast rights.

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You write this idiocy, and you have the nerve to call me dense?  You threw red herring after strawman after appeal-to-victimhood on that thread just to maneuver yourself into a position from which you could pontificate on your sophomoric public utilities idea.

You did all that, and yet you have the nerve to say something about my tone after you presented a logically baseless case in favor of shifting more power to the federal government?

I point at the moon and you bitch about my dirty fingernails.

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