Genius: Captain Wonderful's New Solution for Afghanistan Commands <i>Seven Percent</i> Support

Genius: Captain Wonderful's New Solution for Afghanistan Commands Seven Percent Support

From Goldfarb's Tweet: A USA Today poll says Joe Biden's brilliant strategy of leaving our troops to twist without reinforcement or plan of victory commands 7% support.

Pull out? 38%.

Give them the reinforcements and resources they need? 48%.

So Captain Wonderful, in his quest to vote present on everything, is currently trial-ballooning a plan hated by 90% of the public.

Even in his pandering he's incompetent.

Jim Geraghty has tallied up several, but by no means all, of Obama's "We're going to beat hell out of the Taliban, I swear" statements. I hope he won't mind me stealing them:

Then-candidate Barack Obama, July 15, 2008:
Our troops and our NATO allies are performing heroically in Afghanistan, but I have argued for years that we lack the resources to finish the job because of our commitment to Iraq. That's what the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said earlier this month. And that's why, as President, I will make the fight against al Qaeda and the Taliban the top priority that it should be. This is a war that we have to win.
And then in August, before the VFW:
This is the central front in the war on terrorism. This is where the Taliban is gaining strength and launching new attacks, including one that just took the life of ten French soldiers. This is where Osama bin Laden and the same terrorists who killed nearly 3,000 Americans on our own soil are hiding and plotting seven years after 9/11. This is a war that we have to win.
And then in his convention address:
I will end this war in Iraq responsibly, and finish the fight against al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan.
And then on October 22:
Abroad, we need a new direction that ends the war in Iraq, focuses on the fight against al Qaeda and the Taliban, and restores strong alliances and tough American diplomacy.

But now we're told that there is a "good war" in Afghanistan (against Al Qaeda) we must fight while surrendering the "bad war" in Afghanistan (against the Taliban). Perfectly similar, as Allah pointed out, to Obama's last talk-tough-even-while-proposing-surrender formulation, that one about the "good war" in Afghanistan and "bad war" in Iraq.

And yes, as he says, soon Obama will begin talking about the "good war" against the hardliners in Al Qaeda, while surrendering the "bad war" against the Al Qaeda moderates.

CBS' woman in Kabul rips the new non-strategy to shreds, and calls it a pure "fantasy" that we can somehow take the fight to Al Qaeda while ceding the entire country to them. Logan also wants to know what six years of "diplomacy" with the Taliban have gotten us thusfar.

Oh -- also there: Obama's sudden discovery that the Taliban is law-abiding and peaceful just happens to coincide with the Taliban's latest press release that they're law-abiding and peaceful.

Posted by: Ace at 08:05 PM

Comments

1 Treason?

/there I said it.

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at October 08, 2009 08:09 PM (MCHyX)

2 Let me be clear: what we need to do is fight the good war against the far right extermist Al-Queda while we responsibily end the war against the otherwise good Al-Queda. And when I say far right extremist Al-Queda, what I mean is Sarah Palin. And possibly Todd.

Posted by: President Present at October 08, 2009 08:10 PM (V9SYy)

3
Bloomberg just called and said, "Most people support Obama on everything he does, including his plan for Trashcanistan. So there."

Posted by: Tweet's Blue Period at October 08, 2009 08:10 PM (1HKg5)

O/T (o.k. sue me) Looking over at the blog roll list on the left hand bar and there, in bold, in the L section is:

Lotta Good Fine Blogs Out There; Why Not Try a New One Instead of Old Ones That Have Gone Off Their Trolley?

Maybe I am just slowed and missed it but: heh, heh, heh, ha, ha ha

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 08, 2009 08:15 PM (V9SYy)

5 it's almost as if this jackass had no executive experience, or familiarity with foreign policy.

nah, that'd be crazy talk.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Occasional Meteor at October 08, 2009 08:15 PM (erIg9)

6 If O isn't going to engage the enemy in Afghanistan then he has proven to me that he is still a Muslim. I don't have a problem with him being a Muslin. I have a problem with him lying about it. Kinda the same problem Clinton had.

Posted by: sTevo at October 08, 2009 08:16 PM (eA3tl)

7 Look! A squirrel!

Posted by: robert gibbs at October 08, 2009 08:16 PM (FUo3j)

8 When I was a young kid, I was dumb enough to swat at several wasps flying in my vicinity. As a result, I was stung very, very badly by what must have been the entire wasp nest. IMO, it will be nothing compared to the sting that Obama will face at the hand of his own words coming back to haunt him.

Posted by: Twinks at October 08, 2009 08:16 PM (uazP3)

9 Boobies!!

Posted by: Peaches at October 08, 2009 08:16 PM (9Wv2j)

10 All these distractions. Cant "Teh Won" just go on and do what he does best. CHEERLEAD.

Posted by: Vitroile(bwaney fwanks says so) at October 08, 2009 08:16 PM (7QO3K)

11 10 All these distractions. Cant "Teh Won" just go on and do what he does best. CHEERLEAD eat waffles.

Posted by: Vitroile(bwaney fwanks says so) at October 08, 2009 08:16 PM (7QO3K)

FIFY

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Occasional Meteor at October 08, 2009 08:17 PM (erIg9)

12 9 Boobies!!

I was frozen today!

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at October 08, 2009 08:19 PM (otlXg)

13 "it will be nothing compared to the sting that Obama will face at the hand of his own words coming back to haunt him."

Except Obama, like the government in 1984 has a crack team (the press) erasing and manufacturing records to support whatever the White House talking point is for the day. The good news is that this is all done tax free (until the bailouts).

Posted by: Joe the Plumber at October 08, 2009 08:19 PM (NgoAe)

I will end this war in Iraq responsibly, and finish the fight against al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Hey cut him some slack --- he said he was gonna "finish" the fight... It's all good.

Posted by: Cuffy Meigs at October 08, 2009 08:20 PM (outBY)

15 I'm getting pretty impatient for that meteor.

Posted by: George Orwell at October 08, 2009 08:20 PM (AZGON)

16 Holy Crap this guy thinks we're stupid.

I wonder how many would actually pay to smell his hubris flatulence?

Posted by: Old Sailor at October 08, 2009 08:23 PM (/Ft4q)

17 Ugh, this means I might have to turn on the volcanoes.

Posted by: Cheif Morlock Engineer at October 08, 2009 08:24 PM (aVQo/)

18 Odumbass and his thugs don't have a clue who we are fighting anywhere, roll back to the liberals to a war far, far away in SE Asia, and then there's that! Same solution, same failure of surrender and many US Troops tossed under the odumbass bus and pissed off!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 08, 2009 08:25 PM (9j3ai)

19 I for one welcome our new Morlock overlords.

Posted by: George Orwell at October 08, 2009 08:25 PM (AZGON)

20 To be fair, I'm pretty sure he said we need to fight the "Tolleebahn".

Posted by: whatever at October 08, 2009 08:25 PM (XIXhw)

21
>>>Holy Crap this guy thinks we're stupid.<<<

Gee, what would give him that idea?

btw, did y'all hear those interviews with the moochers in Detroit in line to receive their stimulus checks from Obama?

Posted by: Tweet's Blue Period at October 08, 2009 08:27 PM (1HKg5)

22 21,

They will soon act like the utes in France and start burning shit if they don't get they money!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 08, 2009 08:29 PM (9j3ai)

23 Actually Obama wants to finish the fight against me because I am not green enough. I knew this all along but you people seem to hear what you want to hear. Sorry that you were mislead. I am sure Obama will be along to clear it up with the phrases "Let me be clear....." or "As I have always said.....".

Posted by: Towel made of Wool at October 08, 2009 08:30 PM (bNABd)

24 A little odd that, b/c terrorists aren't State actors, we can't look forward to any formal surrender aboard a battleship like Japan did, but we can look forward to diplomacy with our enemies, just like they were State actors or something.

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at October 08, 2009 08:30 PM (taJZA)

25 Time for McCrystal to unilaterally announce a bug out and get our guys out of harms way.

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at October 08, 2009 08:31 PM (MCHyX)

26 Is there anything left to burn in Detroit? The entire city is a Hiroshima with dumbass inhabitants, well most anyway!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 08, 2009 08:33 PM (9j3ai)

27 About the only thing I AM willing to pay taxes for now is an all out war on the Islamists. We could invite the Chinese to play, too.

Posted by: Old Sailor at October 08, 2009 08:33 PM (/Ft4q)

28 They will soon act like the utes in France and start burning shit if they don't get they money!!

Well, there are plenty of unsold cars in Detroit, waiting for the righteous torch of social justice.

Posted by: George Orwell at October 08, 2009 08:33 PM (AZGON)

29 This trial balloon of an idea should be floated up Obama's ass and popped.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at October 08, 2009 08:34 PM (bNABd)

30 Oh, the stench, Mr. Pink.

Posted by: Old Sailor at October 08, 2009 08:35 PM (/Ft4q)

31 Old Sailor is it just me or is this idiot just running his war strategy sessions on the front page of the New York Times and seeing what polls the best?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at October 08, 2009 08:38 PM (bNABd)

32 I know for a fact in my 2 tours in 'Nam I had many Brothers that were willing to fight and we did well, but once we saw the tide change and support for us lost, I even started shorting my patrols so we could all go home walking!!!!!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 08, 2009 08:38 PM (9j3ai)

33 I killed a fly, once. Didja see it? It was on TV.

Posted by: Barack O'Bama at October 08, 2009 08:38 PM (/5Axw)

34 #28
Wrong thread, you dummy, Orwell.

Posted by: George Orwell at October 08, 2009 08:40 PM (AZGON)

35 Yeah - I mean no, Mr. Pink, it's not. He's like a kid who sits down to play poker with adults for the first time and doesn't know the rules. And all he has is false pride. He should, by rights, get the crap kicked out of him.

Posted by: Old Sailor at October 08, 2009 08:41 PM (/Ft4q)

I wish that son of a bitch was honest about surrendering to the Taliban BEFORE the election.

Goddam it.

Posted by: drjohn at October 08, 2009 08:44 PM (HXRkG)

37 Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud,
hatch out.

Posted by: I, Claudius at October 08, 2009 08:44 PM (l+x6R)

38 Obama's is pulling off The Reverse Clinton: triangulating himself into a less popular position by splitting the difference between the two extremes.Clinton was always able to sell himself as the more sensible alternative to the two extremes; Obama just looks like he's desperately trying to find a way to vote present yet again (it is his most refined skill).

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 08, 2009 08:46 PM (AlxKJ)

39 36

Wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up quicker. This douche has been lying thru his teeth since the words "That is not the Reverend Wright I knew" and has been running downhill ever since. I never knew of his ass in Chicago but he probably was lying there too so I may be wrong.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at October 08, 2009 08:47 PM (bNABd)

40 Well folks, the good thing is we will have thousands of Troops here in the USA that won't take any crap from anyone backboarded by 'Nam Vets oh boy!!!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 08, 2009 08:47 PM (9j3ai)

41 Welcome to the USSA. The United Socialist States of America. He does not give a shit how many Americans get killed over there. He only thinks about his power. If the polls say he will be out on his ass after the next presidential election, then we will see first hand why he has to stay in command for "national security" rather then loose IF there is a next election for president. Do I have to tell you every time and every place it happened? It is the Socialist playbook. China, Russia, Germany, Vietnam, Korea, Cuba, even African and South American countries. The more dead soldiers, the more likely the military will not depose him.

But don't beleive me? Al Franken is a good example. The voter fraud that got him elected worked great. He should be in prison after all the fraud. Instead, he is in Congress!

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at October 08, 2009 08:48 PM (Eom7x)

42 Sweet Jeebus in a submarine, what the hell is next? Really, what? Is Barack, Lord of the Flyswatters, going to sell F-22s to Hamas in Palestine? Or how about hiring the Norks to decommission our nuclear weapons?

Posted by: George Orwell at October 08, 2009 08:48 PM (AZGON)

43 I wish that son of a bitch was honest about surrendering to the Taliban anything BEFORE the election.

fify

Posted by: Peaches at October 08, 2009 08:49 PM (9Wv2j)

44 #38
Interesting comment... this turd with Secret Service protection is neither brilliant, elegant, nor intelligent. But I always thought he was very, very cunning. Yet the cluelessness is very strong in this one.

Posted by: George Orwell at October 08, 2009 08:50 PM (AZGON)

45 Better latch on to a 'Nam Vet or Iraqi/Afghani Vet, for your safety when the shit hits the fan.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 08, 2009 08:51 PM (9j3ai)

46 Hell this toolbag was already lying when he pledged to accept public financing for his campaign during his first debate before the primaries. Wayyyy before the Rev. Wright crap.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at October 08, 2009 08:52 PM (bNABd)

They will soon act like the utes in France and start burning shit...

If that fucker fucks up Afghanistan, some shit could start burning here too. How many Americans will he get killed before he figures out which way the parade is headed, so he can prance to the front of it? And how many more will die after he almost inevitably guesses wrong?

"When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary..." - Obama probably doesn't, but you all know how that ends. For fatuous pantywaist potentates, very poorly.

Posted by: sherlock at October 08, 2009 08:52 PM (L4jPh)

48 Sure, he won't fight a war in Afghanistan, but he has no problem bombing me? What up with that?

Posted by: The Moon at October 08, 2009 08:52 PM (V9SYy)

49 I'm all for space exploration, but that money could be well served at this point in supporting our Treasure!!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 08, 2009 08:55 PM (9j3ai)

50 I got nothing.

Posted by: RayGun at October 08, 2009 08:56 PM (muUqs)

51
Time for McCrystal to unilaterally announce a bug out and get our guys out of harms way.

Yup. Get 'em into Bagram and the other airbases, clear out a field of fire, and try to stay alive until their tours are up. Goddamn Beruit all over again. This mendacious shit heel is even worse than Carter, didn't think it was possible.

Posted by: Dang Straights at October 08, 2009 08:57 PM (/hK6d)

52
And once the taliban/al qaeda have their hands on Pakistan's nukes, it is all over folks. Head for the hills because the new dark ages are here.

Posted by: Dang Straights at October 08, 2009 08:58 PM (/hK6d)

53
If O'Stumblefuck accepts PFC Bidens solution for Afghanistan, it will be the first time in history an E-3 was queried about strategy over the influence of an O-9, General Stanley McChrystal.

Posted by: Fish at October 08, 2009 08:59 PM (FnA4R)

54 Take a good look at this link you liberal scum; but I doubt your pansy stomachs could take it. It is the true nature of warfare when fighting a Muslim enemy. It is the reality of what our boys in Afghanistan face everyday and Obama has just stabbed them in the back. Disgusting.

http://www.charonboat.com/item/84

Posted by: Unicorn douchebag at October 08, 2009 08:59 PM (GfYt/)

55 51,

Damn right, it's sad that the best Military in world have to take a defensive posture in war, but at this point I agree!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 08, 2009 09:00 PM (9j3ai)

56 This mendacious shit heel is even worse than Carter, didn't think it was possible.

Barry is not about to let that peanut farmer upstage him.

Posted by: George Orwell at October 08, 2009 09:02 PM (AZGON)

57 IMO, it will be nothing compared to the sting that Obama will face at the hand of his own words coming back to haunt him.

What words?

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 08, 2009 09:03 PM (0Lv+U)

58 Red Dawn coming to your community soon if you sit back and take this shit!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 08, 2009 09:04 PM (9j3ai)

59
Mr. Fish, Mr. Grunt, seeing this kind of thing from a democrat administration must have you gentlemen sick to your stomachs.

Thank you both for your service, btw.

Posted by: Dang Straights at October 08, 2009 09:04 PM (/hK6d)

60 If O'Stumblefuck accepts PFC Bidens solution for Afghanistan, it will be the first time in history an E-3 was queried about strategy over the influence of an O-9, General Stanley McChrystal.

Not the first actually. Hitler the Corporal ran strategy over the best military minds in the world at the time, the long tradition of fine Prussian generals.

Posted by: kbdabear at October 08, 2009 09:05 PM (0Lv+U)

61 PRESENT!

Posted by: GarandFan at October 08, 2009 09:07 PM (ZQBnQ)

62 Surprised no one has said it so far;

Lara Logan: I'd definitely hit it

Posted by: kbdabear at October 08, 2009 09:08 PM (0Lv+U)

63 dont forget what will happen to the women and children of Afghanistsan if we withdraw to the Taliban. What happened to the women of Basra. They will be murdered. These are terrorists against their own people and against us as well. The Taliban are the enemy of Afghanistan and America and all civilized nations seeking to live in peace.

Posted by: ginaswo/MiM at October 08, 2009 09:09 PM (ZnikS)

64 Taliban Retakes Afghanistan: Women And Minorities Hardest Hurt.

Hey. It works for once.

Posted by: runninrebel at October 08, 2009 09:12 PM (i3PJU)

65 Just another broken campaign promise in a long line of broken campaign promises. Nice job, 52%.

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 08, 2009 09:12 PM (V9SYy)

66 Okee dokee. Tahleebon good? Al kayda bad. Got it.

For all us military parents, can we all yell a big FUCK YOU to Barry and Crazy Joe?

Thank you.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at October 08, 2009 09:18 PM (UOM48)

67 Looks like this thread is exhausted, so I'll get out of your hair and just say God Bless our Troops and their Families, I do!!!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 08, 2009 09:18 PM (9j3ai)

68
sick to your stomachs.

Posted by: Dang Straights at October 08, 2009 09:04 PM (/hK6d)

The most appalling matter for me is the inability or unwillingness to lead. We have thousands of young men in the field risking their all to execute the orders of the Commander-in-Chief. Unfortunately, there is no discussion about victory, but some wussified concept about containment.

In the later stages of Vietnam, it's an established fact that some line units were no longer actively seeking to engage and kill the enemy. Many field commander's decided it was better to save the lives of their men than to continue perpetuating a lost cause.

For me personally my last tour began in January '69, and I willingly sought to do my part with maximum effect. However, within 90 days or so of arrival back in country, it was apparent the effort would be all for naught. The next nine months were spent flying missions, some dangerous and with the potential for loss of life and aircraft, but my mental state was on preservation of life and assets, and not the hot persuit of enemy forces.

What concerns me about Afghanistan? After eight years of a no-win strategy, we may see the Vietnam "take few risks and go home" play out again.

Posted by: Fish at October 08, 2009 09:24 PM (FnA4R)

69 I still cannot believe this total pant load is President.

Posted by: joh at October 08, 2009 09:24 PM (jgwoG)

70 it is so unbecoming for the president of the united states to skank killa fly on national t.v. and be PROUD of that skill.

Posted by: nyc redneck at October 08, 2009 09:25 PM (WtLhy)

71 Is it wrong that I wish this prissy assed "CinC" would fall and tear up a knee or something and cry in front of the cameras? I've torn up two knees and it's no fun, but I'd bet Prissypants would wee wee himself.

Sorry. I'm pissed.

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Posted by: jason at October 08, 2009 09:43 PM (gREGf)

73 Joe Biden is working hard to secure his spot in hell ... right next to Robert McNamara

Posted by: Neo at October 08, 2009 11:00 PM (tE8FB)

74 1 Treason?

End of discussion.

Posted by: Derak at October 08, 2009 11:26 PM (MMGcj)

75 I hope they all kill each other, and enjoy Islam

Posted by: bob_hussein_dole at October 08, 2009 11:47 PM (DLaJY)

76 Let's see here: the left constantly chided us during the Bush years that the 9/11 AUMF should be tightly viewed relative to Al Qaeda. But as we all know the AUMF allowed for action against (a) those responsible for the attacks and (b) states which harbored them or provided aid.

Using the left's definition as (a), the Taliban would be (b). To a T.

We demanded a denazification of postwar German governments so as to never again offer that ideology a safe harbor in the public arena where it festered. We should expect no less in this case. No 'good Taliban' and 'bad Taliban', just as no one wanted a 'good Nazi' after 1945.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at October 09, 2009 12:46 AM (/RwSS)

77 "As I attempted to make clear many times in the past, we must focus on Al Qaeda; and we must recognize that the Tall EE Bahn represent a legitimate aspiration of the Afghan people...."

Posted by: Obama auto-speech generator at October 09, 2009 01:32 AM (AW+Y3)

78 #63 : ginaswo/MiM dont forget what will happen to the women and children of Afghanistsan if we withdraw to the Taliban.

The "boat people" and the millions slaughtered when we left Vietnam did not bother Hollywood and the Left. Non-news. Name me one, ONE freeking country Socialism worked in? What one were there no mass slaughter of innocent civilians?
And no leftees want to move to one, but they want one here.

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at October 09, 2009 01:41 AM (Eom7x)

79 President Obama wants to win in the Stan. Yeah, right. Name me one University he went to that liked the military? Left wing students and Liberal profesours? They hated us. We used to be proud of having shaved heads in school. (military crew cuts, like I have to explain that to not be called a "skinhead". All races got them) It actually hurt our grade point average because it costs us grades in some classes with leftist inteligencia. Obama and his henchman sure do not care how many troops get killed oversees, because they volunteered, and were not drafted. We actually had troops killed recently in the Phillipines by "evil doers" I wonder what they are? Hmmm Hmmm Hmmm.....

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at October 09, 2009 02:00 AM (Eom7x)

80 here is my comment, reposted from the other thread.
Here is my email to this fucking idiot! (Yes, Ace, fucking Is allowed in this instance, a there is no stronger adjective to describe to complete and total fool!)
O'Bozo.
You do not care, NOW, to defeat the Taliban (in direct opposition to your campaign promises?)? You think that they should be allowed a place in the government of Afghanistan?
Are you a complete and total idiot?
Is history not one of your strong points, Mr. History Major from Harvard?
Or is this simply more pandering to your FAR left wing base?
If, due to your actions, another attack occurs on US soil, due to your stupidity, I promise you that not only will you be a single term president, and remembered as the WORST president in US history (Step aside Jimmuh Carter, the previous worst President!), not to mention lose the 2010 midterm elections. But, We, the PEOPLE ( oh forgot that part of the constitution, did you?), will do everything possible, within our power to not only have you impeached, but to bring you up on charges of neglecting your duty of protecting and preserving the Constitution of the US, but also of failing to protect and defend the citizens of the US. We WILL see you arrested, tried, convicted and serving time in the harshest prison that we can possibly find.
Follow your heart, idiot, but be aware that your time in power is short, very short, and WE the people have very long memories!
Sincerely,
a very pissed off citizen who will do ALL that he can to see you imprisoned for your failures.
And no, by my sending this email, this does NOT give you permission to contact me with your bullshit emails telling me what a great job that you are doing.
Idiot!
With an added, Fu** you Obozo,
You think we wil sit down and take this crap?
You are going down! We will see you in prison!

Posted by: SaTx at October 09, 2009 03:56 AM (ORb6i)

81 I guess we could refer to Biden's "stragedy" as "the 7% solution"

Posted by: GreenGasEmissions at October 09, 2009 10:52 AM (2+hGZ)

Obama is going to leave millions of Afghan women to a life of hell on earth, and Code Pink, the feminists and the rest of the women who secretly (or not so secretly) are dying to do him won't give a crap. Because it's so much more important that they have a president who has pledged to keep infanticide legal.

I'm a woman and I hate those women.

And, I had a chat with my 8 year old daughter yesterday and reminded her that despite what she's going to hear in school, all cultures are not created equal.

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