1 Post the defense fund link as soon as it is available.  I'm in on that!  Oh yeah!

2 Awwwww hell.  These ACORN morons don't have a clue what they are stepping into.

3 John Bolton is on the Glen Beck show now.

4 This should segue nicely into tort reform.

5 I don't think O'Keefe is surprised.

6 POPCORN PLEASE!

7 Everyone who donates get a swatch of Giles' short shorts.

8 ACE
Could this be the reason for Chrissy uping the rhetoric:  "The FBI is investigating the hanging death of a U.S. Census worker near a Kentucky cemetery, and a law enforcement official told The Associated Press the word 'fed" was scrawled on the dead man's chest."
This is horrific.

9 Flaming Acorn?

10 What discovery? All that stuff ACORN burned last week?

11 Discovery?  We've been shredding documents and degaussing hard drives 24/7!

12 SWEET!

/grabs popcorn

13 Breitbart needs to get an honest judge though.  Is that possible in Maryland?

14 If firewalls between these entities were recently put into place would that preclude discovery of say SEIU?

15 Well shit, the TAXPAYERS are suffering severe, emotional distress at our tax dollars going towards child sex slave brothels that have tax exempt status.  Can I sue ACORN now?

16 Release the Kracken!

17 Need a legal defense fund link!

18 Doesn't ACORN have a lawyer to explain what will be aired out during discovery or are all the ACORN lawyers currently in the White House?

19 Maybe the President is lead counsel on this??

20 Wanna bet there was consultation with Eric Holder before this was filed?

21 Baltimore ACORN was operating without a valid commercial business license. Either this lawsuit is dumb as hell or .......Hottie and O Keefe need a legal defense fund?

22 The audacity of the commiecrats never ceases to surprise me.

23 Excellent: let's hope this one gets to the Supreme Court and these idiotic, 'politician-protection laws' (i.e. needing consent to catch scum on tape confessing, inadvertently to gross illegality), are struck down once and for all.

24

Oh boy! I hope they go for the jugular and discover every tie to every politician in Washington, all their financial records, everything! Close them down nationwide and put the principals in jail for life. Then force resignations at the highes level. Shame the Dims for generations.

This is ball-dippingly good.

25
Censorship!!  Repression of the Press!!  Help us, ACLU!

26 I'll laugh if the people fired come out and say they were trained to do this sort of thing.  Though I doubt they would.

27 About that census worker. On the local discussion board for London KY this was written:

"he was shot and found wit duct tape wraped around his hands he stumbled across a methlab i heard ,he was a good teacher and he wil be missed rip mr.sparkman "

28 ACE
Could this be the reason for Chrissy uping the rhetoric: "The FBI is investigating the hanging death of a U.S. Census worker near a Kentucky cemetery, and a law enforcement official told The Associated Press the word 'fed" was scrawled on the dead man's chest."
This is horrific.
Posted by: ???????????????????

That's not good.. Not the low level federal employees..
at least go big.. like a member of Congress.
metaphorically speaking.

29 What does every attorney get drummed into them?  "Don't ask a question unless you know the answer already".  Ergo, don't file a suit unless you are sure all your ducks are in a row already.

30 Michael Moore does this in every film and the first time it done to the Democrats in a meaningful way they sue?

31 The feds have already thrown Acorn under the bus, so this suit will likely be thrown out early on.

32 In the words of the kid in Animal House, upon having a Playboy Bunny thrown through his window:  "Thank you, God!"

33 ACE
Could this be the reason for Chrissy uping the rhetoric:  "The FBI is investigating the hanging death of a U.S. Census worker near a Kentucky cemetery, and a law enforcement official told The Associated Press the word 'fed" was scrawled on the dead man's chest."
This is horrific.

Posted by: ??????????????????? at September 23, 2009 05:49 PM (p302b)

And the games begin.  A crazy did something stupid, and the fan is pointed rightward.  What fresh hell will this bring?

As for the ACORN/Breitbart litigation, it will be dismissed after the first set of Interrogatories.

34 Cat Fud trap! Oh please, oh please!

35 Could this be the reason for Chrissy uping the rhetoric:  "The FBI is investigating the hanging death of a U.S. Census worker near a Kentucky cemetery, and a law enforcement official told The Associated Press the word 'fed" was scrawled on the dead man's chest."

Or it could also mean he had just eaten.  Just sayin'. 

36

ACORN is suing?  Or is it the fired employees?  It does not seem that ACORN would have the standing to sue on behalf of the employees that it fired.

One of you lawyer guttersnipes post the filing, wouldja?

37 BRING IT!

38 From the article -
The lawsuit says the employees, Tonja Thompson and Shera Williams, suffered "extreme emotional distress."

Well duh. Wouldn't you be under extreme emotional stress if you were part of a criminal enterprise???

39 #34 LMS: 

Great reference.  A+, would click again.

40

We're going to teach you a damn lesson for sure, haters.

(Turns away and steps into giant pile of shit.)

41 The day of reckoning is coming, fascist filmmakers!

42 @33 Herr Morgenholz

And the games begin.  A crazy did something stupid, and the fan is pointed rightward.  What fresh hell will this bring?

1.  A case for easily manipulated statistical sampling rather than hard counts for the 2010 census?

2.  Deflect attention from the ACORN mess?

3.  Justification for DHS's accusations earlier this year?

Who are the only ones who stand to profit from this, exactly?

43 IANAL, but if it's the fired employees suing, discovery won't be able to reach into ACORN. On the other hand, if it's the employees suing, the suit's a joke, a pure nuisance suit, and their lawyers should be disbarred.

For one thing, they're on tape facilitating multiple felonies. They're lucky they're not the ones facing criminal charges!

For another, if courts allow people to sue for "emotional distress" for the results of their own actions, then we've opened the doors for "she dumped me" lawsuits!

Finally, the defendants just have to show the video tape! Unless the jury is packed with ACORN staffers, they're gonna win in a walk, and the only result of the lawsuit will be more "emotional distress" for the thugs.

44 Re: Kentucky AP story

Hey, it must be racism. Because he's a white guy.

Might want to do some checking on the deceased, William Sparkman.

I question the timing!

45 Who are the only ones who stand to profit from this, exactly?

Posted by: MikeO at September 23, 2009 06:00 PM (WvolZ)

Not me.

46

ACORN: Don't tape me bro

47 Sign me up for the defense fund. Maybe we can get Sarah Palin to go to bat for these kids on her Facebook? I would love that so much.

48 These two real journalists acted foolishly.

49

 Should have just sat down and S.T.F.U. and let it go away. BRING IT!!

50 Can Obama be called to testify?

51 So ACORN is suing for illegally recording two of their employees giving illegal advice on how to conceal an illegal enterprise while operating illegally in the state of Maryland ,that should resonate real well with the average American.

52 Drudge must be feeling the heat from Breitbart:
" Census worker hanged with 'fed' on body... White supremacist groups call for protests in bus attack..."

53

As for the ACORN/Breitbart litigation, it will be dismissed after the first set of Interrogatories.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 23, 2009 05:57 PM (qWLc4)

More likely after the first set of Requests for Document Production. Oh, wait, Interrogatories have to be sworn. Never mind.

54 ACORN suing because O'Keefe, Giles, and Breitbart didn't have two party consent to record CRIMINAL ACTIVITY???  ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  This is going to be fun!!

55 Acorn is a bunch of whining Bitches.

56 Well, yeah, how the fuck are they suing when they were operating illegally in Maryland in the first place?  Just goes to show there's no limit to teh stupid when it comes to ACORN.

57 Emotional distress suffered by employees whose behavior resulted in them being fired?

What is Acorn's standing? These people no longer work for them. Acorn fired them due to their gross misconduct.

If these reporters/whistleblowers broke the law wouldn't it be up to the state of Maryland to press charges?

What am I missing here? Someone please straighten me out.

58

The picture is of the burning acorn is rather distracting to put it mildly

59 Finally, the defendants just have to show the video tape! Unless the jury is packed with ACORN staffers, they're gonna win in a walk, and the only result of the lawsuit will be more "emotional distress" for the thugs.

That is where it might get sticky for Hottie and Company-State of Maryland has that  law about  two-party consent to create sound recordings.

60 46

ACORN: Don't tape me bro

LOL!

61

Perhaps, I am reading too much Freud.

Back on topic, the lawsuit is laughable.

62 I thought the law they are trying to claim isn't what they think it is.  The judge said that the law really only covers Telephone taps and can't be used for video recording.

63 I think it was "Ted" not "fed".

64 Michael Moore does this in every film and the first time it done to the Democrats in a meaningful way they sue?

Wrong. Michael Moron cuts and pastes and adds misleading narratives and misidentifies locations and times. O'Keefe and Co. were truthful. That is why the suit has been filed, because someone told the truth about ACORN.

65 Yuh-huh. Good luck with that, ACORN btiches...

66 I like the "Flaming Acorn" idea.  You should get a lot of use of the graphic in the coming days...weeks....months...years.  Bwahahahah!!!

67 Better be stocking up on the popcorn now before it is gone.

68 So they've finally destroyed enough of the evidence to feel it's safe to sue?

69 IT'S RACISM THAT THEY DIDN'T EMPHASIZE A WHITE MAN WAS LYNCHED!

Profile on the victim here....

Sorry you beat cancer to have this happen to you buddy...

70 Oh, wait, they are suing Brietbart for posting the videos? I can't wait to see how that turns out. What a bunch of dumbasses at ACORN. However, never underestimate the ability of a judge to do something really stupid. 

71 Not only can't it be used for video recording, I think they have an even harder case because I would imagine ACORN offices are places of public accommodation.  I'm not an expert, but it seems to me that even with this stupid Maryland law that The Gap can't sue you for taping their operations (provided it doesn't rise to the level of harassment).

72

Uhhh....

ACORN is suing because two ACORN employees suffered "emotional distress" after ACORN fired them?

73 I await the response of our usual pile of dimwitted trolls..

74

New! Kids singing to Dear Leader Video: http://tinyurl.com/msjzhn

Can someone please follow me from AoS on Twitter? I put up about 30 articles everyday, some that get here, some that don't, but it would be nice to be considered.........

75 I can't wait for the leftards to come forth... to begin defending people encouraging tax evasion, prostitution, smuggling humans across borders, and child sex slavery. But I repeat myself.

76

Didn't something like this happen with Linda Tripp and Monica Lewinsky?  I don't remember what the resolution was.

77 This is a lawsuit regarding possible illegal recording.  I don't see how much discovery will be allowed as it really isn't relevant to this suit.

The fact that ACORN had no license to operate could stir up some dust.  That is, "how can I be illegally recording an organization that isn't legally here?"  I'm not even sure how far that will go.

We'll see.

78 Why are you teabaggers talking about this piddly stuff when you could be talking about how Bushitler murdered a gazillion Iraqis for their delicious bone marrow?  True story!

79

I am sure Brietbart has one but I can't figure out the counter suit against ACORN or the employees that would allow for discovery of anything meaningful.

They are getting sued for supposedly breaking the law and recording without consent (bogus in my opinion). The obvious countersuit is we didn't break the law and here is why but where is the discovery for anything else?

80

75 I can't wait for the leftards to come forth... to begin defending people encouraging tax evasion, prostitution, smuggling humans across borders, and child sex slavery. But I repeat myself.

 

Oh this is easy.  They change the subject.  The focus on the supposedly evil motives of conservatives.  See if it wasn't for those vile knuckle-dragging troglodytes, ACORN would never have had its dirty laundry aired.  It's so unfair!!!!!

81 BTW, I guarantee some ACORN tool or DNC operative is quietly probing the possibility of bribing the judge and jury. It's the Chicago way.

82 It's like eating your cake and having it too! The IRS throws ACORN under the bus. And this suit guarantees they'll hang around Obie's neck like a rotting albatross for months and months and months. This is better than double coupon day at Pathmark!

83 So, does this mean that every idoit in Maryland with a cell phone camera that takes a video (with audio) and then posts it online can/will be sued by someone because of the 2 party consent law? Lets be "fair" here, if one person who "violates" the law gets pinched, then everyone who violates the same law should face the same treatment.

84 If it's the employees suing, then it could be an attempt to discourage Breitbart from releasing any more tapes rather than a suit that is expected to actually win damages. Either way it won't do Acorn any good.

85 That is where it might get sticky for Hottie and Company-State of Maryland has that  law about  two-party consent to create sound recordings.

The trump card is that the ACORN thugs were facilitating criminal activity, and aren't suing over being recorded -- they're suing over the "emotional distress" caused by their actions being recorded.

"So you -- a mature, fully capable and competent adult -- act to support what you believed was the commission of multiple felonies, including the enslavement and rape of children, and then seek damages because your own depraved actions were caught on tape? Is your 'emotional distress' because you've been exposed for what you are?"

86 83 So, does this mean that every idoit in Maryland with a cell phone camera that takes a video (with audio) and then posts it online can/will be sued by someone because of the 2 party consent law? Lets be "fair" here, if one person who "violates" the law gets pinched, then everyone who violates the same law should face the same treatment.

Posted by: Elizabeth at September 23, 2009 06:11 PM (hA5JK)

That's why I call this the "Linda Tripp law".  It is almost never used and seems to be designed specifically to prevent politicians from being caught in stings. 

87 #80
True, that already happened just after the tapes surfaced, The standard leftard excuse was "entrapment!" "Political motivation!"

Which is peculiar, because if I'm an accomplice to stealing John Smith's money, I don't get to dismiss the crime by whining "But Smith hates me!"

88 New! Kids singing to Dear Leader Video: http://tinyurl.com/msjzhn

Exhibit A for why my kids are homeschooled.
Also Exhibit A for why my nine-year old can field strip a semi auto rifle in less than 30 seconds.

89 "Paul Kirk has been chosen as interim Senator by Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, according to Major Garrett of Fox news."

90 If the suit is over the taping, not defamation or libel, then I doubt any judge would allow the kind of discovery folks have been talking about here.  A judge won't allow a fishing expedition for evidence that's not related to the specific charges of the suit.  How could any otherwise incriminating evidence in ACORN's possession be related to O'Keefe, Giles, and Breitbart's taping these employees without their consent?  And if the individuals are suing, not ACORN, ACORN's records wouldn't be relevant at all.

I wouldn't be surprised if the case gets thrown out, but I also don't see how ACORN is exposed on this one.

91 Is Qaddafi going to testify for Acorn?

92 Could this be the reason for Chrissy uping the rhetoric:  "The FBI is investigating the hanging death of a U.S. Census worker near a Kentucky cemetery, and a law enforcement official told The Associated Press the word 'fed" was scrawled on the dead man's chest."

I am in KY and from what I understand, that Census worker either stumbled on a meth lab or a still operation.

93 And if the individuals are suing, not ACORN, ACORN's records wouldn't be relevant at all.

Their employment records and all documents relating to their firing -- those can be used in multiple lines of defense, so I can't see how they could be blocked.

I'd bet ACORN is a "silent" party to this suit.

94 Because Acorn gets a mess of government funding, wouldn't there be whistleblower laws that protect the film makers?

95 D'oh Boy!

96 #85  Your right  - doing 2 things at once. After I read the whole thing - I think that's what they are going for here:   harassment
+ that they were fired.... They are just looking for a payout. Doubt this will go far at all. 

97 91 Is Qaddafi going to testify for Acorn?

If he does, that will tie up the courtroom for days and days. That man can go on and on forever about absolutely nothing at all.

98
#35: Or it could also mean he had just eaten.  Just sayin'.

This is Soooo wrong.

Funny, but wrong.

99 , ACORN would never have had its dirty laundry aired.  It's so unfair!!!!!

Posted by: chemjeff at September 23, 2009 06:10 PM (PhN4p)

we were only offering to help the young sweet defenseless 13 year oldsm ti have a Better life as an american democrat

100

It's a civil suit brought by ACORN, not the two fired employees, so there will be tons of discovery into ACORN's practices.

You don't even have to sleep at a Motel 6 to figure that one out.

101 I wouldn't be surprised if the case gets thrown out, but I also don't see how ACORN is exposed on this one.

I'm not sure, but I would guess that they could argue that ACORN was facilitating criminal activity and any evidence of facilitation of actual criminal activity would be germane.

I do agree, though, if it ever makes it to trial, a judge will throw it out.

I think it's a bluff to prevent the release of more tapes and, I'm going to guess, that the next motion will be a motion to keep Breitbart from releasing more tapes.

I just think they want to stop the bleeding.

102 I'm curious how the two-party consent is enforced.  Do people really have to get everyone that happens to be in a crowd or background to give signed consent in order to make a recording?  I can't imagine that kind of thing is actually enforced, unless it's to specifically target someone who makes a recording that someone 'special' doesn't like.  If it were used as evidence in a legal case, I can see why it would be inadmissable, but making it illegal to even make a recording unless everyone appearing in it has consented?  That's crazy.

103 I wonder if ACORN ever obtained "undercover" evidence of "discrimination" in housing or lending in any state that has a similar law to the one in Marlyland? Can they be prosecuted for it?

104 94 Because Acorn gets a mess of government funding, wouldn't there be whistleblower laws that protect the film makers?

Good point. But I think the arguement from the other side would be that you aren't allowed to break the law (taping without consent) in order to be a whistleblower.

105 Is ACORN itself legal.
According to the following documents, ACORN, Inc.–the parent organization of all things ACORN–forfeited its corporate charter in Maryland in 2006. ACORN Housing forfeited its corporate charter in 2008. Any ACORN office in the state of Maryland is potentially operating illegally.

106 This case is too high-profile for some liberal judge to take this and just write rewrite the state laws any way he wants and find against the whistle-blowers. Breitbart would get a good laugh out of that.

107 Be funny to watch the MSM spinning sympathy for the crooks.

108 I wonder if Obama has heard of ACORN now?

109 Because Acorn gets a mess of government funding, wouldn't there be whistleblower laws that protect the film makers?

Good point. But I think the arguement from the other side would be that you aren't allowed to break the law (taping without consent) in order to be a whistleblower.

Posted by: Elizabeth at September 23, 2009 06:20 PM (hA5JK)

They should use the Douchbag Defense.  "You Honor, the Plaintiffs are douchebags. See Masengill v. US."

110 83 - good point, but one that will be overlooked by some judge.
Off hand, what did Tripp get for the taping of Monica?

111 72 Hollowpoint

Exactly. This doesn't pass the laugh test.

112 Any ACORN office in the state of Maryland is potentially operating illegally.

Posted by: Prairei Boy at September 23, 2009 06:20 PM (WFaQr)

Oh, the irony if it were to be bounced for standing.

113

107 Be funny to watch the MSM spinning sympathy for the crooks.

They don't.  They just don't say anything at all.  The MSM may be biased but they are also smart. 

114 Momma always said stupid is as stupid does.

115

so i asked my wife, who unlike dum dum is a lawyer, and her field kind of sorta covers this for her opinion the other day and here we go...

this is basically a seizure of privacy matter, so, all the have to do is show that they were there legally, as in not asked to leave and the recording was done within their scope of plain sight.

it's like getting a video of a cop tazing a suspect there.  can the cop sue, of course not because it happened in plain view

they knew this was coming and they know damn well they have it beat already but they want discovery

116  83 - good point, but one that will be overlooked by some judge.
Off hand, what did Tripp get for the taping of Monica?

Posted by: todler at September 23, 2009 06:22 PM (2lGk0

The case was throw out at pre-trial hearings.

117 Illegal aliens are allowed to file lawsuits, so I can't imagine the suit being tossed simply because Acorn was not a legal business in the state of Maryland.

118 Will legal fund donors be deemed Racist? and subsequently investigated by DOJ and Maxine Waters??

119 I like the "trying to prevent any more video releases" idea. I mean, they can't prevent it. But if true, it means there is worse to come, and our popcorn will not go to waste.

120 Their employment records and all documents relating to their firing -- those can be used in multiple lines of defense, so I can't see how they could be blocked.

I wish Gabe would weigh in here... but if they are suing for emotional distress, how can their dismissal from ACORN not be a subject for discussion, given that they would inevitably claim they were harmed because of being fired as a result of the tapes? And if the termination was in fact unjust, then they have to explain why. And behold, we're back to these cocksuckers getting fired for giving advice, freely and without duress, on the successful commission of multiple felonies.

If the exposure to the wide public is a putative source of damages, let them prove it beyond their termination as well... in which case they have to explain why the things they said, freely and without duress, were damaging. And we return to the advice that got them in deep voodoo in the first place.

121 I welcome evil lawyers doing a colonoscopy on ACORN; Beck's insurance policy should cover the other poor defendants; this is moronic since the actual malice standard applies.

122 A guy who seems to be a lawyer upthread doubted there'd be a lot of discovery here.

I'm not really qualified to opine but that was my reaction, too, which I was sharing with Confederate Yankee. Discovery is often broad and frequently abused, but I think at the end of the day you have to give a good answer to the question, "Assuming that this evidence you seek does in fact exist, how would this be relevant to you defense?"

I don't believe going through ACORN's records is going to be very relevant to a simple question about whether this taping was consented to or not.

They will have to scramble for some defense here. I'm not sure what it will be. I was speculating that the real defense will be as regards damages, arguing these people contibuted to their own "emotional distress" by behaving abominably. And using that as a pretext to play those tapes again and again, to show just how horrid their non-reactions to this were, so in the end the jury says, "Um, a technical tort occurred here, so here's your damages -- one American dollar."

But I don't think it's accurate to say this is going to be a discovery bonanza.

123 Regarding discovery, the general rule (though it varies state to state and judge to judge) is not that what you are seeking is relevant, but that the request is reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence at trial. I have not seen the Maryland statute that is in play here. However, if there were some exception for public figures or public works, then any discovery request reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of ACCORN funding from the government may lead to the discovery of admissible evidence that ACCORN was a public entity. This, of course, would be considered an affirmative defense against the ACCORN claim. Again, this is all guess work, I have not read the statute. But discovery rules are generally rather liberal. Would be very interesting. 

124 110 83 - good point, but one that will be overlooked by some judge.
Off hand, what did Tripp get for the taping of Monica?

Indicted, her immunity deal threw out most of the evidence at trial.  Lewinsky testified and was deemed not credible.  Tripp was acquitted.

I read the wiki article on Tripp and really forgot what was done to her (with the complicity of the media).

125 I would enjoy being wrong, but that is my hunch.

126

Shouldn't every exec ever nailed by "60 Minutes" and all the pervs caught on "Dateline" be lining up to sue as well?

 

I do have to guess ACORN filed suit in an area where they are likely to get a Demonratic judge, who will shoot down a lot of the defendant's requests on discovery motions, and in a district where a little attention to detail on voir dire will get them a jury with a lot of union/retired union types.  African-American a definite plus.  Unless they are retired military or police.  Then, not so much.  Police officers probably don't appreciate underage illegal alien sex slave trading.

127

The trump card is that the ACORN thugs were facilitating criminal activity, and aren't suing over being recorded -- they're suing over the "emotional distress" caused by their actions being recorded.

WRONG.

ACORN is suing for "emotional distress" damages suffered by two of its employees caused by what they claim was an illegal taping.

Or at least that's how it seems. Details right now are sketchy, at best.

Best to wait until some more details come out and we can get the opinion of a savvy, seasoned elder lawyer like Gabe to help us out.

128

The case was throw out at pre-trial hearings.

Posted by: robtr at September 23, 2009 06:24 PM (H60q6)

Yes, you're right.  Not acquitted per se.

129

Just looked at the statute (10-402) - no media/investigative journalist exception, so from where I'm sitting they likely violated the statute.

Disclaimer - I am not familiar with Maryland law and I'm extrapolating from the principles we follow in CA.

If this suit was brought under our laws, the fact that the terminated employees were actually engaged in illegal activity would likely void any claims they had against the employer for wrongful termination - essentially if you had no legal right to your job because of your own misconduct, they can't be held responsible for not continuing to employ you to commit illegal acts on their dime.

There may not be existing precedent for extending that same protection to a third party but it stands on the same basic equitable principle - one that likely applies just as strongly in MD as CA - "unclean hands." 

How can O'Keefe et al be held financially responsible to you (the felons) for causing you to lose a job that you should not have had in the first place due to the very acts they caught you committing ?

Someone more familiar with First Amendment law may know of some additional authority from one of 60 Minutes or 20-20's lawsuits in this vein - it's not my area.

I also assume that O'Keefe and the other defendants will ask for a stay in civil proceedings while the criminal investigation of ACORN is pending, as they will be called upon to testify in such proceedings.  I wouldn't expect a trial in this civil case until 2-3 years down the road (during which time it will quietly get dismissed after ACORN leans on the fired employees to drop this before more dirty linen gets trotted out for the neighbors to see).

130

on the bright side,

MORE HANNAH!!

131 George Orwell, that's a good point. One thing for sure, a good lawyer could overwhelm ACORN's lawyers with discovery requests, they may not get the discovery but ACORN will have to fight each one of them.

132 I don't remember what happened to Linda Tripp? Was she prosecuted and if so what was the outcome?

133  Maybe a lawyer can answer this. But shouldn't this be tossed on summary? Wouldn't ACORN lack standing to sue since the right belonged to the employees. Not to ACORN. Secondly the extreme emotional distress caused the employees was caused by ACORN for firing them.

134 New York is a one party state (I can record you).

Don't ask how I learned that.

135 Do we have any nominations for defense counsel?

136
ACORN is TOAST

I like toast.

137 >>> but that the request is reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence at trial.

Yeah but one of the main elements of "admissible" is "relevant."

(Among other things.)

If it's not relevant it's not admissible.

138

then we've opened the doors for "she dumped me" lawsuits!
Woohoo! Meghan, here I cum come!

139 A guy who seems to be a lawyer upthread doubted there'd be a lot of discovery here.

Just to be clear, if on the off chance you are referring to my comment that Acorn will dismiss upon receipt of the first set of Interrogatories, let my state unequivocally that I am NOT a lawyer. I don't watch Law & Order, I don't fight speeding tickets, and I don't even vote for local judgeships.  I AM NOT A LAWYER.

My reputation is already dubious.  It can take no more.

140

Breitbart, drop another video tonight, please.......

141 119 I like the "trying to prevent any more video releases" idea. I mean, they can't prevent it.

I should say that I think they want to prevent new releases temporarily.

I really don't see how they win here, in the long term.

142

121:

Malice applies to situations where you are suing for defamation.  They're being sued for committing an illegal act which resulted in the employees being fired.  Once again, I'm know CA not MD law - our courts err on the side of applying the malice standard to any claim they think is a "disguised" defamation claim, but I'm not sure this would fit the bill, or how MD would handle it.

143 I wonder if a Son of Sam law would prevent the ACORN workers from collecting on a judgment as the proceeds from a criminal activity....

144 I can't wait for dinner with my parents on Sunday. I had an interesting conversation on FB today with my ultra-lib Dad about the whole racism thing.... can't wait to have the Acorn discussion with him.

145 Televised court proceedings please!

146 I wonder if they think that Prez Zero will stand up for them and make sure they make out like bandits in the suit and just ruin those skinny white kids.

I wonder if ACORN has something (bribe worthy)  on Prez Zero where he will be forced to stand up for ACORN and skewer those skinny white kids.

sometimes it gets fun because the Zero is president.

147 Was it just Breitbart, and the two investigative journalists?  Not Fox news?

148 Damn!  The case is apparently in Maryland state court, but I can't find it online.  There's no record of the case filing yet, which could just mean that the data entry folks in Charm City aren't too quick.

I have a hard time believing that ACORN has standing to enforce a criminal statute, since this two-party consent doesn't sound like something that would have a private right of action associated with it, and there's no way they have standing to sue on the intentional/negligent infliction of emotional distress claims.  The case *should* get dismissed out of hand, but I'm in on the legal defense fund.

149

I am not a lawyer, and I have not seen the filings, but I am going to guess that the filings are very carefully worded to mention only the fact of the allegedly illegal voice recordings, with no mention of why the recordings were made, just that they were.

I think that will limit discovery to pretty much safe territory.

As usual, public safeguards will work against us.

150 ACORN is suing for "emotional distress" damages suffered by two of its employees caused by what they claim was an illegal taping.

Acorn is a corporation or some other legal fiction.  It doesn't have emotions. 

151 This may have been said all ready but:

They (Hannah & Crew) should counter sue for infliction of emotional distress claiming that once they became aware that federal money was supporting child sex slavery they became distraught. Don't let ACORN drop their case without discovery going forward.

Maybe a real lawyer could envision an actual cross complaint that would keep the discovery door open.

152

 I wouldn't think Whistleblower laws would apply since O'Keefe is not an employee of ACORN. May want to check the MD laws but generally whistleblower statutes prevent a company from retaliating against an employee that exposes criminal conduct by the the company.

 There may be some press shield laws that apply. Though they may not be mentioned in the wiretapping statute they may be listed seperately. If not you could still raise a 1st ammendment defense and say the wire tapping statute does not apply to press activities as it violates the 1st ammendment. Worth pursuing if for no other reason to put the MSM in a bigger bind than they already are about the issue.

153 Congratulations Andrew, they took the bait, hook, line, sinker, and first three rings on the pole. Now I'll get my popcorn, you go get your free media exposure, and God knows what from discovery. Post a legal defense fund link. I do believe in paying to watch a good show.

154 So, reading all these legal opinions, what about the case of that guy who secretly taped the six-some and was then accused of rape by one of the participants?  I guess they didn't have a very good lawyer if he didn't file to have that videotape thrown out and proceed with the bogus rape charge?

155 Guess ACORN figures they've burned all the stuff they need to burn.

EXIT QUESTION:  True, ACORN could be construed as the "victim" under state law, but isn't it UP TO THE STATE to decide to prosecute or not?

156 There may be some press shield laws that apply. Though they may not be mentioned in the wiretapping statute they may be listed seperately.

Bingo.  The kids are members of the "press".  Good luck with the Supremacy Clause, Acorn.

157 I knew a guy who worked in the Pentagon with Tripp and Monica. He said they deserved each other and that 'ugly' didn't begin to describe it.

158 Acorn is a corporation or some other legal fiction.  It doesn't have emotions. 

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 23, 2009 06:36 PM (qWLc4)

That's really cold man, and probably racist.

159 I do wonder if MD has basically crafted an unconstitutional law, because it contains within it no caveat or exception (by design, I hear) about public officials and matters of public interest.

I mean, Good Lord, we're always being told the First Amendment protects porn and crap, and yet you can't practice a standard journalistic technique to expose corruption?

I wonder about Tripp's case.

I wonder if that was tossed because the prosecutors realized the law was infirm and would not stand scrutiny. So give her a scare, drop the case, and keep the law on the books. Don't give a court a chance to strike it down.

160 Mmmmmm......

Pan fried....

NUTS!

161 The statute upon which the bogus lawsuit is based applies to the "interception" of transmissions.  It is, essentially, a prohibition against eavesdropping.  It covers the recording of conversations or communications by someone not a party to the communication.

As to the scope of discovery, my guess is that it will be broad.  ACORN has claimed damaged to its "reputation."  The books will be opened.

162

That's really cold man, and probably racist.

Posted by: robtr at September 23, 2009 06:38 PM (H60q6)

I had to take my hood off to type that.

163 People who think this case will go anywhere and do anything but add to Breitbart's amusement are simply thinking too hard. And no one at Acorn will dare to try to blackmail Obomber for executive reenforcement, unless they are okay with being a ghost.

164 154 So, reading all these legal opinions, what about the case of that guy who secretly taped the six-some and was then accused of rape by one of the participants?  I guess they didn't have a very good lawyer if he didn't file to have that videotape thrown out and proceed with the bogus rape charge?

I forget what state that happened in, but maybe it was a "one party consent" state.

165 Didn't Beck say on his program today that Maryland is the only state where you are required to do public service in order to graduate from HS?   Did they think that one out?  The kids in danger of dropping out would drop out to avoid doing the public service?  Or was that just a law for the suburbs?

166 To clarify, the statute cited in ACORN's petition deals with the interception of communications.  O'Keef et.al. did not "intercept" a communication - they were a party to the communication.

167 ACORN does not care if they are guilty or not, Well, yes they do, but the presentation is all important. Attack the do gooders. This is all important for the "FACE VALUE." Nobody will remember that they are guilty. the spin is that the Replubs, conservatives, and the tea baggers are  RCAISTTTTSSSS!

168 I wonder if that was tossed because the prosecutors realized the law was infirm and would not stand scrutiny. So give her a scare, drop the case, and keep the law on the books. Don't give a court a chance to strike it down.

Posted by: ace at September 23, 2009 06:38 PM (7N7hn)

Ace, the prosecutor dropped it they said becuase Monica Lewinsky was a bad witness, they waited until pre trial hearings to say that. I can't figure what a witness would have to be credible about in a illegal recording case other than is that your voice?

 

169 "Please show us your training manuals.  Plus any information you have about the authors of said manuals"

170 Acorn is a corporation or some other legal fiction.  It doesn't have emotions.

BIGOT!!!

Legal Fictions are persons too!!!!

STOP DISCRIMINATION!!!

171 Haven't read all the comments yet, but if they are so confident as to sue....could they have perhaps destroyed any incriminating evidence?

172 Regarding Tripp & Lewinsky, from Wikipedia (yeah, I know):

However, the Maryland state court ruled that Lewinsky, who "admitted that she lied under oath in a federal proceeding and has stated that lying has been a part of her life," was not credible and Lewinsky's proposed testimony against Tripp was "bathed in impermissible taint." As a result, all charges against Tripp were dismissed on May 26, 2000 when the prosecution decided not to proceed with the trial of the case.

Wouldn't ACORN also be "bathed in impermissible taint" since they ended up firing the wildly criminally minded employees right after they saw the videos?

173 O/T:   Where is Juan?   All of a sudden Juan has become decibels louder and more beligerent.   I like the old Juan better.  Almost as though he went to training with the dem strategist witch who was on Denis Kneale;s program and who probably cost him his program.   I mean Juan was never belligerent and he never pushed points he knew were just plain wrong and now all of a sudden he is.  Wonder if the big K will put Juan in his place?

174 To clarify, the statute cited in ACORN's petition deals with the interception of communications.

True.  But most states are "one party", i.e., you can tape a phone call with me without my knowledge.  Maryland appears to be a "two party" odd duck in that you have to have my permission to tape that same call between us.  Odd "expectation of privacy" thing.  If I wanted privacy, I just wouldnt tell you about the hobo graveyard in my crawl space at all.

Did I say that out loud?

175 165 Didn't Beck say on his program today that Maryland is the only state where you are required to do public service in order to graduate from HS?   Did they think that one out?  The kids in danger of dropping out would drop out to avoid doing the public service?  Or was that just a law for the suburbs?

I think it's certain areas of the state but not the whole state (particular boards of ed in certain towns). I wonder how they enforce this for the home school kids that are supposed to be eligible to get a HS diploma in their town as long as they met the educational requirements in their home schooling.

176 angler, you're wrong about that.

177

1. Is this in state or federal court? I don't know how Maryland is, but most state court judges are hacks. Political hacks, usually, and don't know the law. Fed judges, while arrogant, usually have an idea of what their doing.

2. If state court, can the defendants use diversity jurisdiction to get fed court?

3. Can the defendants counter sue? Countersuing would allow them to get wider discovery.

4. Can the defendants file a class action against ACORN across the nation, citing misappropriation of taxpayer funds? That would bring the broadest discovery.

178 I just saw krauthammer and dayum, you could actually see fear in his eyes from what tEH WoN said today.

179 Haven't read all the comments yet, but if they are so confident as to sue....could they have perhaps destroyed any incriminating evidence?

Acorn needs to destroy anything incriminating. . .California wildfires. . . Coincidence???

180 "bathed in impermissible taint."

My taint needs permission?  For what?
Don't answer that.

181 "174 To clarify, the statute cited in ACORN's petition deals with the interception of communications.

True.  But most states are "one party", i.e., you can tape a phone call with me without my knowledge.  Maryland appears to be a "two party" odd duck in that you have to have my permission to tape that same call between us.  Odd "expectation of privacy" thing.  If I wanted privacy, I just wouldnt tell you about the hobo graveyard in my crawl space at all.

Did I say that out loud?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 23, 2009 06:44 PM (qWLc4)"

Could the filing be as regards something that hasn't surfaced yet?

182

My reputation is already dubious.  It can take no more.

After all your past indiscretions including your kerfuffle with Mr. Whipple, the last thing you want to do is be mistaken for a lawyer!

183 That's right, that's right... drink it in, baby.

That's a savory three-day old stank I got goin' on.

184

I am foaming at the mouth wondering what countersuing Breitbart might bring. He's very smart; he must have contemplated this suit. Unless it is so blindly stupid that he dismissed the idea. Either way its good news.

Drudge and he have probably thought about all the angles.

The most important thing I think they missed was tieing Nobama to ACORN. Most of the public isn't aware how involved he was in the organization. Breitbart needs to get that out cleanly and succinctly in a Michael Moore-esque vidoe of 5 minutes or less.

185 166 To clarify, the statute cited in ACORN's petition deals with the interception of communications.  O'Keef et.al. did not "intercept" a communication - they were a party to the communication.

Technically, they did intercept a communication. They were also a part of the conversation, but Maryland is a 2party consent state - meaning that both parties of the communication must give consent to be recorded (the pimp+prostitute on one side AND the acorn employees on the other side).

Recording a communication that you are a part of is technically intercepting it - because you are intercepting it with a recording device.

186 Couldn't ACORN sue O'Keefe and Giles for fraud and misrepresentation as well?

187 Is this in state or federal court? I don't know how Maryland is, but most state court judges are hacks. Political hacks, usually, and don't know the law. Fed judges, while arrogant, usually have an idea of what their doing.

While I'm not a lawyer, as I vigorously protested previously, that's not a fair cack on judges.  In my work I deal extensively with litigation, and I have found the vast majority of judges try to do the right thing.  Yes there are assholes, and yes there are hacks, but most are decent people with a lot of previous experience in private practice and interpret the law to the best of their ability.  Sometimes they're wrong, true, but painting with a broad brush like that is not valid.

188 186 Couldn't ACORN sue O'Keefe and Giles for fraud and misrepresentation as well?

No.

189 Where do is send my donation for the O'Keefe, Giles And Breitbart defense fund?

190 186 Couldn't ACORN sue O'Keefe and Giles for fraud and misrepresentation as well?

Holy shit. Even for a layperson, you are dumb. Why don't you call your local ACORN office and offer your legal expertise? honest cloud can help revamp their tax assistance program, too.

Fucking idiot.

191 O'Keefe and Giles are just typical white people going maliciously after the black community.  They acted stupidly by failing to notify those fine upstanding acorn workers that they were going to be recorded and that anything they might say could be used in a court of law.  

192

I had to take my hood off to type that.

Yup, I've found that if I don't have the eyeholes positioned just so, it is ding dang hard to see straight.  I do stand out a little at the meetings since my hood is yellow.

193

After all your past indiscretions including your kerfuffle with Mr. Whipple, the last thing you want to do is be mistaken for a lawyer!

Posted by: Runningrn at September 23, 2009 06:47 PM (D2il9)

We shall not speak of that again.

194

The most important thing I think they missed was tieing Nobama to ACORN.

Patience. I suspect that Breitbart is nowhere near done yet.

195

because Maryland requires two-party consent to create sound recordings.

Does it? The only Maryland law I've seen cited in defense of this idea is one which prohbits eavesdropping on other peoples conversations. If there is a Maryland law prohibiting"sound recordings" without two party consent, I have not see it.

196 Who are the lawyers and who's paying the bills ?

197 I clicked on the link to the AP article and the first time I read it my brain turned "Community activist group ACORN" in to "Communist activist group ACORN".

Strange how the brain works.

198 I felt bad for the acorn workers who were setup...they were trying to help giles out. They deserve to get fired but still they were also victims in this. Losing their jobs in this economy means they will probably now be on welfare.

199 Couldn't ACORN sue O'Keefe and Giles for fraud and misrepresentation as well?

What "loss" did ACORN sustain, RELEVANT to any paper work THEY NEVER SUBMITTED?

200 If there is a Maryland law prohibiting"sound recordings" without two party consent, I have not see it.

Posted by: flenser at September 23, 2009 06:52 PM (O/V6T)

Neither have I, it's just the scuttlebutt going around about MD law.  I know farkall about MD law.

201 lawyers-- can they countersue ACORN itself regarding ACORN's contribution to the damages -- i.e., they caused this by mistraining the workers and failing to supervise them?

Ergo it's ACORN's fault they were xposed to "extreme emotional distress"?

And, on top of it-- acorn fired them.

202 Recording a communication that you are a part of is technically intercepting it - because you are intercepting it with a recording device.

Posted by: Elizabeth at September 23, 2009 06:49 PM (hA5JK)

I know that's what Maryland claims but to claim that you have to change to meaning of the word intercept to the meaning of the word record  when the statute could have said intercept or record like Washingtons does.

I think that's a big deal, others don't because if you look in definitions in the statute intercept means record. To me that seams like saying in the definitions that jay walking means murder.

203 186 Couldn't ACORN sue O'Keefe and Giles for fraud and misrepresentation as well?

If that's the case, I'm going to sue you for misrepresenting your sexual fetish for women's anuses!  To my knowledge, you've only entered one anus and wasn't even the anus of a flesh-and-blood being!

Good thing for me though that plastic doesn't have nerve endings.

204 195

because Maryland requires two-party consent to create sound recordings.

Does it? The only Maryland law I've seen cited in defense of this idea is one which prohbits eavesdropping on other peoples conversations. If there is a Maryland law prohibiting"sound recordings" without two party consent, I have not see it.

http://zenlaw.net/reaper/?p=37
gives a list of the states that require 2 party consent and the listing of the statutes involved in each state

205

 Drew this is not a time to feel sorry for G+O'k it is a time to feel generous, we need to help fund their defense and use the power of discovery to devestate the little nuts who are the seeds for the Ogabe tree....

AoSHQ needs to use ots resources to see if there is a legal defense fund afoot yet.

206 Ace,

It wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.  But "intercept" is not the same as "record."  The statute is clearly designed to prohibit the clandestine interception of communications by a third party.  It isn't designed to criminalize the "kiss and tell" situation which arises when the recipient of a communication is offended by it and wishes to share it with others.  Otherwise, many criminal admissions would never see the light of the courthouse.

207 198 I felt bad for the acorn workers who were setup...they were trying to help giles out. They deserve to get fired but still they were also victims in this. Losing their jobs in this economy means they will probably now be on welfare.
Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 06:54

Seriously dude?!?!?
Why are you assuming they will be on welfare? Do you know for a fact that they have children? or a disability? or do you just ASSUME that they have kids because they are not white??? Do you just assume that they can't get another job because they are not white??? I thought you had black friends? I thought you weren't raaacist, because you say that you aren't all the time but I guess I thought wrong.

208

AoSHQ needs to use ots resources to see if there is a legal defense fund afoot yet.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 23, 2009 06:57 PM (2Ut0s)

General denial Answer: $150.00

First set of interrogatories and/or Admissions: 250.00

Request for Discovery: $100.00

Urine stained Dismissal With Prejudice: Priceless.

Breitbart can afford that wiothout much help.

209 by receiving gubbamint funds to operate the "tax and home mortgage" criminal enterprise office, and offering said services to pimps and hos the public, aren't they relieved of the two-party protection on taping? i.e.: haven't they become de facto gubbamint employees? just speculating

210 198 I felt bad for the acorn workers who were setup...they were trying to help giles out. They deserve to get fired but still they were also victims in this. Losing their jobs in this economy means they will probably now be on welfare.

Geez, I can feel you get progressively stupider as you lay your droppings all over here.  I don't feel sorry for these idiots, who counseled people on how to avoid paying taxes on their prostitution business and on how to smuggle little girls over the border, getting fired.  In fact, they should count their lucky stars if that's all that happens to them! 

In an ideal world, these people should at least be in jail for a long, long time.

211 I felt bad for the acorn workers who were setup...they were trying to help giles out break the law.

FIFY

212

Didn't something like this happen with Linda Tripp and Monica Lewinsky?

Nope, that was a very different situation. Tripp secretly taped conversations between Clinton and Lewinsky.

If O'Keefe had tapped into the ACORN phone lines and recorded them discussing criminal acts with, lets say, Barney Frank, that would be like the Tripp matter and would run afoul of the Maryland law.

 

213

I felt bad for the acorn workers who were setup...they were trying to help giles out. They deserve to get fired but still they were also victims in this. Losing their jobs in this economy means they will probably now be on welfare.

So you're accusing the black women in question of being "welfare queens"?  Nice racism you have going for ya there.  Maybe they should sue you for slander.

214 Damn.  Working for Mr. D'oh sucks.  I end up late to the party.

Sad thing is, regarding the dead census worker, there are folks in the hills of Kentucky who want to be left alone.  I would hope some poor census employee wouldn't ignore the order to "leave" and try to GPS the front and back door of the double wide.  Or "house".

215 I felt bad for the acorn workers who were setup...they were trying to help giles out. They deserve to get fired but still they were also victims in this. Losing their jobs in this economy means they will probably now be on welfare.
Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 06:54

You misnamed him, Ace.  "Dum-Dum" has an innocence to it.  How about "Intentional Fucktard"?

216 201 lawyers-- can they countersue ACORN itself regarding ACORN's contribution to the damages -- i.e., they caused this by mistraining the workers and failing to supervise them?

Ergo it's ACORN's fault they were xposed to "extreme emotional distress"?

And, on top of it-- acorn fired them.

Posted by: ace at September 23, 2009 06:56 PM (7N7hn)

Agreed! Employers are ultimately responsible for the actions of their employees.  The legal term "they knew, or should have known" is always used in sexual harassment and discrimination cases against employers.

217

From Elizabeth's link re. Maryland:

Violations of the law are felonies punishable by imprisonment for not more than five years and a fine of not more than $10,000. Civil liability for violations can include the greater of actual damages, $100 a day for each day of violation or $1,000, along with punitive damages, attorney fees and litigation costs. To recover civil damages, however, a plaintiff must prove that the defendant knew it was illegal to tape the communication without consent from all participants. MD. Code Ann., Cts. & Jud. Proc. § 10-410.

218 >>>Nope, that was a very different situation. Tripp secretly taped conversations between Clinton and Lewinsky.

I doubt that happened. even if it did, the main thing recorded was lewinsky's admissions to tripp.

219 I am certainly no legal beagle,but my reading of two party consent laws seems that they are intended to protect consumers and law biding citezens not people conspiring to commit felonies.

220 186 Couldn't ACORN sue O'Keefe and Giles for fraud and misrepresentation as well?

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 06:49 PM (VDj74)

I'd sue you for stupidity, but the downside is, you have never been worth shit.

221

Losing their jobs in this economy means they will probably now be on welfare.

Heh; my guess is that they already WERE collecting welfare and that ACORN showed them how to collect it and a paycheck.

222 @215

I'm assuming they'll be on welfare because

1) the economy is the shits
and
2) they were dumb and naive enough to be tricked by this charlatan into giving her advice

not because they're black. in fact, one of the women wasn't black iirc.

223 Ace, the flaming acorn is cool, but I've got squirrels sitting on a limb outside my window holding little baseball bats.  They look hungry.  Should I be worried?

224 I am shocked and appalled at these lawbreaking "gotcha" make believe journalists!  The nerve!  That they would try and besmirch ACORN's good name, after all that organization has done to help the homeless and underserved.  Even if ACORN was operating illegally in the State of MD, the positive contributions they have made to our state are priceless.  I happen to think the phrase "illegal activity" is not only judgmental but also racist. 

225 Dum dum.
Misrepresentation really dumbass? Like what direct damages can ACORN claim on misrepresentation? The time wasted by the employees giving "tax advice"? That would be the equivalent of admitting in open court that the employees were doing what they were supposed to do and weren't required in any way shape or form by ACORN kick two sex slavers to the curb and call the police.

Oh and FRAUD. Requires you to make a statement that could be used as courts evidence such as a verbal contract (most common, written contract would come in second, perhaps statements under penalty of perjury would be third). Casual conversation, misleading or not, is not fraud.

Keep bringing teh funny dum dum.

226

P.S. re. my #217 and Elizabeth's link: the main page issued a caveat about the write-ups on the states' pages that they were written by journalists and not by lawyers, and so may not be exact.

227 To recover civil damages, however, a plaintiff must prove that the defendant knew it was illegal to tape the communication without consent from all participants. MD. Code Ann., Cts. & Jud. Proc. § 10-410.

And THAT is probably what going to save the young "kids" (giles and o'keefe) from any civil damages. In this case, it seems as if ignorance of the law IS a valid defense.

228 @219

you tard, the only situation when that law would be triggered in the first place would be if such recording was used to present criminal actions.

229 I would hope some poor census employee wouldn't ignore the order to "leave" and try to GPS the front and back door of the double wide.  Or "house".

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at September 23, 2009 07:01 PM (UOM4

I live in a rural area of Southern Ohio.  Culturally similar to the hills of Kentucky.  When we say "get out of here", it's not a threat, it's a statement of what you WILL do.

Hanging the guy from a tree like it's hog killin' season is just wrong, though.  That's not for another month or so.

230

ACORN is suing for "emotional distress" damages suffered by two of its employees caused by what they claim was an illegal taping.

Acorn is a corporation or some other legal fiction.  It doesn't have emotions. 

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 23, 2009 06:36 PM (qWLc4)

ACORN also doesn't have arms or legs -- but it could, apparently, sue Hannah & Giles if their actions caused the the loss of said limbs to two of their employees.

Or could it?

231 not because they're black. in fact, one of the women wasn't black iirc.
Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:04

dum-dum, the women in the MARYLAND office (that's the one we are talking about here dum dum) are not white.

232 The lawsuit says the employees, Tonja Thompson and Shera Williams, suffered "extreme emotional distress."


Was that before or after ACORN fired them?

233 In this case, it seems as if ignorance of the law IS a valid defense.

Seems like Maryland's cornered the market on dumbass laws. 

234 @225

Giles and Keefe were basically pulling entrapment (which is illegal in many states). They created a fictional scenario with the sole goal of entraping their victims. This is different then if Giles were presenting an honest scenario and the acorn workers did what they did. Intention matters.

235

Couldn't ACORN sue O'Keefe and Giles for fraud and misrepresentation as well?

Can we sue you for fraudently misrepresenting yourself as a "non-partisan"?

236 @198 palin steele

I felt bad for the acorn workers who were setup...they were trying to help giles out. They deserve to get fired but still they were also victims in this. Losing their jobs in this economy means they will probably now be on welfare.

No.  You're wrong.  They're criminals.

You don't feel bad for criminals.  You do what you can to help them find their way into an unmarked grave somewhere.

237 230

ACORN also doesn't have arms or legs -- but it could, apparently, sue Hannah & Giles if their actions caused the the loss of said limbs to two of their employees.

Or could it?

I think only the people who personally lost the arms and legs could sue, not the company they worked for.

238

Can we sue you for fraudently misrepresenting yourself as a "non-partisan"?

Posted by: flenser at September 23, 2009 07:09 PM (O/V6T)

He'd plead "drool".  We'd lose on that.

239 @236

Has any morons here ever downloaded an mp3? If so, you are all criminals.

GET THE FUQ OFF YOUR SANCTIMONIOUS HIGH HORSE.

240 234 @225

Giles and Keefe were basically pulling entrapment (which is illegal in many states). They created a fictional scenario with the sole goal of entraping their victims. This is different then if Giles were presenting an honest scenario and the acorn workers did what they did. Intention matters.
Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:08 PM

dipshit, entrapment is something that a law enforcement official does, not a private citizen.

241 I felt bad for the acorn workers who were setup...they were trying to help giles out.

I wonder how many hitmen have been wrongly incarcerated for want of this legal nuance. 

242 ACORN must be pretty certain that their benefactors can buy a judge or a jury because emotional distress at having been caught conspiring to break the law is going to make a tissue thin argument.

243 Dum Dum, for the love of god, stop putting quarters in the Retard-O-Tron.

244

The lawsuit says the employees, Tonja Thompson and Shera Williams, suffered "extreme emotional distress."
_____________________________________

They are suffering from PTSD, Pimping and Tax-evasion Sting Distress.

245 You don't feel bad for criminals.  You do what you can to help them find their way into an unmarked grave somewhere.

Posted by: MikeO at September 23, 2009 07:09 PM (WvolZ)

I mark there graves by sharing a beer with them.  Filtered and everything.

246

Sorry, here's the linked page's caveat--I misremembered it:

(Note: This guide and summary is written for Journalists, and does not necessarily address issues such as recording family conversations or other non-journalistic uses of recording.)

And someone, above or on another ACORN thread, said the census worker ran across a meth lab that sounds more likely a motive than anti-government types whipped into a passion by Glenn Beck.

247 Hey dum dum you bigotted dimwit, have you taken up the challenge and written a post to get put up by DrewM?  Or is that just too much work for you?

248 @239 palin steele

Has any morons here ever downloaded an mp3? If so, you are all criminals.

Have you?  If so, then you know where you belong.

249 I felt bad for the acorn workers who were setup exposed...they were trying to help giles out smuggle underage sex slaves into the country. They deserve to get fired go to jail but still they were also victims in this will never see the punishment they deserve. Losing their jobs in this economy means they will probably now be on welfare. Where they can continue to use tax dollars funded by liberals for whatever immoral behavior they can get away with.



FIFY

250 fly free subpoenas duces tacum! fly like the wind!!!

251 Just when I think dishonest cloud is the stupidest troll we have, palin steele makes an impressive play for the title.

We really should have a Troll of the Year Award.

252 GET THE FUQ OFF YOUR SANCTIMONIOUS HIGH HORSE.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:11 PM (VDj74)

Actually, it's spelled "fuck".  This word "fuq".  I do not think it means what you think it means, which is apparently "blowing my girlfriend".

253 239 @236

Has any morons here ever downloaded an mp3? If so, you are all criminals.

GET THE FUQ OFF YOUR SANCTIMONIOUS HIGH HORSE.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:11 PM (VDj74

Illegally downloading music = Aiding child prostitution.

You really are a dum-dum, you bigot.

254 Peaches: Well, yeah, how the fuck are they suing when they were operating illegally in Maryland in the first place?

Good question, Peaches.  Generally, you have to be a legally recognized entity to be able to sue in any court.  If the documentation posted at BigGovernment.com is to be believed, ACORN is not an entity in good standing in MD, and has not been since 2006, IIRC - and ACORN Housing has not been an entity in good standing in MD since 2008, again IIRC.  Since neither was a viable entity at the time of the "offense," I would think that this would be an issue easily resolved on a motion for summary disposition:  ACORN has no standing and has suffered no injury, because it wasn't even in existence in MD at the time the "injury" occurred.

255 We really should have a Troll of the Year Award.

The Axel Rod of Excellence.

256

The ACORN employees were acting as representatives of the state.  State funded employees, providing advice on Public Funding issues.

 This would make their advice a Public Service and hence not under the purvey of privacy statutes designed to protect the (an) individual.

The defense merely has to establish that the services (Public) rendered by this office (Public Funded) and disseminated by these specific employees (Public Employed) was in fact a Public Service (which it claims to be). This would force the case out on merit.

   

 

257 I agree with Dum Dum.  These African American women were so inclusive and welcoming to the white "pimp" and "prostitute".  Now they are being penalized for welcoming diversity and trying to build a rainbow colored bridge.  Women of color, extending the hand of friendship and assistance to the white oppresors only to be beaten down.  It's just like Uncle Tom's Cabin all over again. These brave ACORN workers deserve support for the brave stance they took against racism, instead  they are being beaten down and mocked.  You all should be ashamed of yourselves.  Dum Dum, I would like to make you an honorary member of Teh Rainbow Coalition.  Next time you are in Baltimore, I'd like you to stop by.  I've got some complimentary Best Buy gift cards for you.

258 Has any morons here ever downloaded an mp3? If so, you are all criminals.

GET THE FUQ OFF YOUR SANCTIMONIOUS HIGH HORSE.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:11 PM (VDj74

dum-dum, have you ever crossed the street where there wasn't a crosswalk? If so, you are a criminal and you should go directly to hell.

259 The kids will lose and will be assessed $1 in fines.  And will become famous and even more important in the future.  I hope Acorn didn't have any cameras installed in any office!  And what about all the cameras used in banks and casinos?  I am filing suit tomorrow!

260 Giles and Keefe were basically pulling entrapment (which is illegal in many states). They created a fictional scenario with the sole goal of entraping their victims. This is different then if Giles were presenting an honest scenario and the acorn workers did what they did. Intention matters.

As far as I can remember entrapment is perfectly legal when not used for evidence of criminal behavior in a criminal court. I could be wrong but using entrapment for defamatory or journalistic purpose is a long standing journalistic practice. 

261 palin steele probably doesn't realize that there is a famous movie line written specifically about him: Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Bullshit. It looks to me like the best part of you ran down the crack of your mama's ass and ended up as a brown stain on the mattress.

262 257  lol!!

263 Has any morons here ever downloaded an mp3?

Actually, no, as my tastes run more toward specific performances by specific orchestras of specific pieces, and less towards Hannah Montana.

264 If entrapment applied to private citizens then Chris Hansen would be totally screwed. But it only applies to law enforcement.

265 The funny thing about palin steele's little dipshit remark earlier about how assassination fantasies are cool for the left because they don't carry guns is this:

In this country, the left has the will to destroy the right but lack the means.  The right has the means but not the will.

John ryan, palin steele, honest cloud, and their pen Kenyan are radicalizing me, and I have given me the will.

The left had better pray that I don't reach the point where my personal cost/benefit analysis tells me that playing-along with this civilization bullshit is worthwhile because there will be millions who conclude that it's not before I do.

266 ACORN is a group that specializes in voter fraud, tax fraud, and they used to sue banks into throwing away money on people who couldn't pay back their home loans.  This isn't some grand strategy, it's just some legal thuggery to intimidate Breitbart and O'Keefe.

Many suits of this sort get settled quietly because neither party wants to risk a trial.  Breitbart and O'Keefe have been talking about the possibility of being sued, so it's unlikely they haven't thought out there next steps.  This is going to be an absolute circus, and nothing the democrats can do is going to make the story go away now.

267 Illegally downloading music = Aiding child prostitution.

I'll bet that the acorn workers thought they were doing a good thing by helping the imaginary 13 girls escape the poverty of ecuador or whereever they were supposed to be from. The acorn workers should've prob reported giles to the cops rather than give her advice, but it was their naivety and good intention that got them in this shit. It wasn't like they were asking Giles for a piece of the action by helping her...they were clearly trying to help the girls. You guys are twisting their intent.

268 Palin Steele: Has any morons here ever downloaded an mp3? If so, you are all criminals.

And you fail at moral equivocation. Theft of intellectual property is not even close to being on par with facilitation of child sex slavery.  Theft vs. human trafficking and facilitation of RAPE? What the fuck is wrong with your moral compass, you asshole?

269

We really should have a Troll of the Year Award.

The Axel Rod of Excellence.

Ooh, we could have a big awards show where all teh morons show up in their best finery (hobo "mink" coats, top hats, evening gowns constructed from bacon).  It would be a real red carpet affair, people driving up in their great gas guzzlers.  The awards would be big gold Acorn statues.  I think it would be a lot of fun!  The amount of Value Rite flowing would only be topped by the amount of moronette cleavage showing. 

270


I think only the people who personally lost the arms and legs could sue, not the company they worked for.

Posted by: Elizabeth at September 23, 2009 07:09 PM (hA5JK)

That's what I was thinking. Right now all we have is some sketchy, poorly written three paragraph (one sentence each) stories. More info is needed.

271 woops, sock puppet!

272 In this country, the left has the will to destroy the right but lack the means.  The right has the means but not the will. utter lack of moral compass.

273 Remember this post: 
"What Super-Sensitive Document Was Destroyed In This Truck Fire?"
"What's interesting is that it's a shredded-documents company truck. That obviously means there was some super-sensitive document in there whose owner was so concerned that they didn't even feel shredding was enough. They wanted it blown up!"

274 @267 palin steele

You guys are twisting their intent.

Is intent all that matters?

275 The left had better pray that I don't reach the point where my personal cost/benefit analysis tells me that playing-along with this civilization bullshit is worthwhile because there will be millions who conclude that it's not before I do.

Is that a threat?

Ace, IP trace this loon and report him to the proper authorities.

276

267 Illegally downloading music = Aiding child prostitution.

I'll bet that the acorn workers thought they were doing a good thing by helping the imaginary 13 girls escape the poverty of ecuador or whereever they were supposed to be from. The acorn workers should've prob reported giles to the cops rather than give her advice, but it was their naivety and good intention that got them in this shit. It wasn't like they were asking Giles for a piece of the action by helping her...they were clearly trying to help the girls. You guys are twisting their intent.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:19 PM (VDj74)

I'll take you away from the home you've known all your life so you can be used and abused sexually by old men in an illegal sex act.   Its ok, Palin Steele thinks its a good idea.

And some of them were looking for a piece of the action you ignorant dumbass.

277 OK, everyone ignore Impacted Stool!  I can't take it any more--he's a complete and utter idiot!  No sense wasting your time or precious words on someone who is gotta be anacephalic!

278 The videos were "clear violations of Maryland law that were intended to inflict maximum damage to the reputation of ACORN, the nation's largest grassroots organizer of low-income and minority Americans," said ACORN attorney Arthur Schwartz. "Unfortunately they succeeded."

From - http://tinyurl.com/mnjo9u

279
I'll bet that the acorn workers thought they were doing a good thing by helping the imaginary 13 girls escape the poverty of ecuador or whereever they were supposed to be from

Escape from poverty>violent sexual encounters for $$$

That's not moral equivalence.  That's vapid bullshit.

280 I'll bet that the acorn workers thought they were doing a good thing by helping the imaginary 13 girls escape the poverty of ecuador or whereever they were supposed to be from.


Yes, because being moved from there, to being an underaged, illegal alien prostitute, is a good thing. Just when I think you can't possible lower the bar, you hit bottom, and keep digging.

281

you tard, the only situation when that law would be triggered in the first place would be if such recording was used to present criminal actions.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:05 PM (VDj74)

-------------------------------------

Absolutely delicious!  Dum Dum calling someone else a tard?  Ace of Spades has morphed into Comedy Central?  Oh Dum Dum, tell another funny, and this time make it one of those cute little Johnny-Fuck-Her-Faster jokes.  You are the funny Dummy.

282 Is that a threat?

Sounded more like a promise.

283 @275 palin steele

That isn't a threat, you dipshit.  It's not unconditional.

So get on your sore knees and pray.

284 @268

You ignorant dipshit...if the Acorn workers didn't give Giles advice, then the supposed child prostitutes would still be getting fuqed over as hookers, only in a dangerous and shitty country.

The Acorn workers wanted to help the girls by bringing them over to the US, where they at least have the hope of one day having a normal life.

Acorn workers deal with the real world, where life is harsh...unlike where you live, where your dogs shit skittles.

285
curious @ 273

Bwhahahahahah - the tinder truck!  How the hell can anyone be surprised when the truck full of combustibles erupts in flames?

286 Yes, Dummy, undermining the democratic process, stealing from actual taxpayers, and aiding child prostitution are no more serious than downloading an mp3.  Which I haven't done, by the way.

And I think 'fuq' is what bin Laden does to his inflatable camel.

287 267 Illegally downloading music = Aiding child prostitution.

I'll bet that the acorn workers thought they were doing a good thing by helping the imaginary 13 girls escape the poverty of ecuador or whereever they were supposed to be from. The acorn workers should've prob reported giles to the cops rather than give her advice, but it was their naivety and good intention that got them in this shit. It wasn't like they were asking Giles for a piece of the action by helping her...they were clearly trying to help the girls. You guys are twisting their intent.

Seriously?!?! You think being a child prostitute in the US is better than being with your family in your home country?
Please explain to me how you think being a child prostitute and being raped would have "helped the girls"

288 The Acorn workers wanted to help the girls by bringing them over to the US, where they at least have the hope of one day having a normal life.

Is that what they were aiming for when they told the pimp to claim them as dependents for tax purposes?  You really know how to bring the nuance, dum-dum.

289

I felt bad for the acorn workers who were setup...they were trying to help giles out. They deserve to get fired but still they were also victims in this. Losing their jobs in this economy means they will probably now be on welfare.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 06:54 PM (VDj74)

 

 

They're probably already on welfare dumbass it's most likely a prerequisite to getting hired there in the first place or a company benefit. The average pay of a full time Commie-Corn worker is 12-18,000 k a year +bonuses. We all know what those bonuses require you to do.  Fraud.

Anyway, since when does a raging anti-emite and racist like yourself feel sorry for people of color anyway ?

290 Ace, IP trace this loon and report him to the proper authorities.

What for jackass? It's not as if they don't monitor every post, and every poster on this site anyway. I'm sure they can pick out the hash on their own accord.

291 #267

You're a sick bastard, Dummy, if you think an illegal sex slave, who'll be used, abused, and worn-out decadent scumbags here in the US, is a whole-lot better than being with their family back in their own country.

292

Either the ACORN people are suffering from severe mental retardation, or they believe their organization is kaput.....basically walking death.....and they are on a kamikaze mission of revenge.

In any case, I'll donate to the legal fund, which promises to be GARGANTUAN.

 

293 @284 palin steele, likely future landfill occupant

Acorn workers deal with the real world, where life is harsh...unlike where you live, where your dogs shit skittles.

And why is the "real world" in which ACORNistas live so harsh?  Who or what made it that way?

I'll give you a hint:  It's pieces of shit like you.

294 I was under the impression that Giles presented the girls as already being prostitutes in their home countries and looking to get to the US...hence the Acorn workers were trying to help them facilitate the move.

295 #291

*by decadent scumbags*

296 The Acorn workers wanted to help the girls by bringing them over to the US, where they at least have the hope of one day having a normal life.

Because being ass fucked by a 60 year old in a diaper is a normal life.  As are the beatings. But at least ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform NOW!!!!!  gets a cut out of her sore, pre-pubescent ass.  Fucking beautiful.  Your not a libtard, you're a fucking animal.  You're actually defending this.  I rescind my former offer.  My pigshit is too good for you to touch with a shovel, and my nutsack is too good to contact your hairless chin.  Fucking dipshit.

297

Palin Steele is now attempting to excuse actions of people attempting to assist in the illegal underage sex trade business.

Any shall we start running predictions on what the next despicable illegal act he will attempt to defend will be next?

Don't disappoint us you bigotted moron.

298 The Acorn workers wanted to help the girls by bringing them over to the US, where they at least have the hope of one day having a normal life.

Acorn workers deal with the real world, where life is harsh...unlike where you live, where your dogs shit skittles.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:23 PM (VDj74)

How does anyone who has been repeatedly raped as a child supposed to ever have a normal life????

299 @294 palin steele

Keep praying, dipshit.

300

The Maryland law very clearly prohibits "interception" of communications. O'Keefe and Giles did not "intercept" anything.

What a liberal court will interpet the law to say is an open question, but it does not ban one party to a two party conversation making a recording. It just doesn't.

301 Sweet merciful crap, now the "non-partisan" is trying to defend ACORN aiding child prostitution rings?

And then out comes the 'harsh real world' talk, from a lazy mooching ignorant mush-brained fuck who thinks he's too awesome to actually work for money.

302 I was under the impression that Giles presented the girls as already being prostitutes

Once again, dumbass, it would be so helpful if you took a little time out from fellating your inflatable girlfriend and acquainted yourself with the source documentation before you start spewing your nonsense.

303 they were clearly trying to help the girls. You guys are twisting their intent.

[Soda squirting out of my nose, lethal fits of laughter.] GOD That's funny!! Really? Really? Really? Next you'll be telling us their fictional pedophile customers would be doing a good deed by funding a future college degree.

304 Because being ass fucked by a 60 year old in a diaper is a normal life.  As are the beatings.

Yes, what program taught you that huh? sounds like someone watched too much A&E specials. Most prostitutes lead mundane lives, and their clients are mundane not freaks.

305 Drew:
AP says it is ACORN, the group and the employees suing. So the defense will be able to get discovery IIRC....

ACORN and two former employees of its Baltimore office filed a multimillion-dollar lawsuit Wednesday against the makers of a hidden-camera video that showed the employees giving tax advice to a man posing as a pimp and a woman posing as a prostitute.

to establish an affirmative defense they are entitled to subpeona the hexx out of ACORN aren't they?

306 The Acorn workers wanted to help the girls by bringing them over to the US, where they at least have the hope of one day having a normal life.

Acorn workers deal with the real world, where life is harsh...unlike where you live, where your dogs shit skittles.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:23 PM (VDj74)

If they are so wonderful why don't you get off your lazy ass and get a job with them?

307

Hey FUCK YOU palin, w.t.f. do you know about the real world?

ZERO! Go get yer shine box idiot

 

 

308
You ignorant dipshit...

Wow.  Two syllable words.  Very good.

if the Acorn workers didn't give Giles advice, then the supposed child prostitutes would still be getting fuqed over as hookers, only in a dangerous and shitty country.

And you know this how?  They weren't abducted?  They weren't farmers' children, daughters of government workers in private school taken by force?  You know this about imaginary child prostitutes?  You heard their life stories in the videos, about how foul their South American existences were?  Stories about what a great life prostitution in the US was going to be for them as opposed to quiet lives with their families in South America?

The Acorn workers wanted to help the girls by bringing them over to the US, where they at least have the hope of one day having a normal life.

Again, you know this how?  And this mitigates the criminality of their actions how?  Or, more likely, did the ACORN worker JUST NOT GIVE A SHIT, which is more likely, given that they didn't ask a goddam thing about the girls or their welfare?

Acorn workers deal with the real world, where life is harsh...unlike where you live, where your dogs shit skittles..

Dude, you have no fucking idea of how harsh my life has been.  You don't know me.

309 God, people.  Don't wear yourselves out with the stupid trolls.  You must stay strong for the night.  There is popcorn and cocktails to be consumed tonight.

Pace yourselves, morons!

310 #294  I was under the impression that Giles presented the girls as already being prostitutes in their home countries and looking to get to the US

Because all prostitutes in poorer countries are prostitutes because they just want to get money for college, right, Dummy?  Those poorer countries would never have women forced into slavery, right?

Idiot. 

311 @304 palin steele

Most prostitutes lead mundane lives, and their clients are mundane not freaks.

Sorry to tell you this, but your whore mother *is* a freak.

312 Most prostitutes lead mundane lives, and their clients are mundane not freaks.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:30 PM (VDj74)

So, you're going with personal experience on this one, dum-dum?

313 palin steele, you are a comedy genius.  I mean that seriously.

314 Most prostitutes lead mundane lives, and their clients are mundane not freaks.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:30 PM (VDj74)

Sounds like you're speaking from experience, rent boy.

315 Ace, IP trace this loon and report him to the proper authorities.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:21 PM (VDj74)

Yep, I'm sure ace is interested in the requests of a poster defending those willing to aid & abet child rape/slavery. Idiot.

316 @ palin steele at September 23, 2009 07:19 PM

And you would have given those underage Salvadorian girls that better life, one 20-dollar bill at a time, mirite?

Leftist = Sexual Deviant

317 Is that a threat?

It's obviously nothing more than idle speculation.  It's not like America has ever had a civil war, or it's citizens rise up in arms to defy a foreign government that taxed us without serving our interests.  And it's not like your president has done everything in his power to alienate the military, its veterans, and the nation's hunters.  So there's nothing to worry about.

Besides, you have lawyers and those dudes that show up in masks to protest the G8 on your side.

But about the topic at hand-Dummy, you're awfully sympathetic to the criminals of ACORN.  You wouldn't happen to be lying to us about your unemployment, would you?

318 Drew

here is the PDF of the suit courtesy of WSJ

319

I don't see how the kids could be charged with entrapment when to my knowledge no charges were filed by them or at their behest (or at all).  Yes, this was for the fool.

As for the census worker -- that was pretty harsh, but not an uncommon hazard when working in that sort of environment.  The tradition of moonshine, marijuana plantations, and meth labs is pretty hardcore in those areas (as in mine) and the folks don't like "feds".  It's been that way for generations now, and isn't going to change anytime soon -- I don't see a connection with the present political climate as much as with the past traditions of the area involved. 

We had a case of a census taker some years back getting attacked, killed, and eaten by some hillbilly family's pack of semi-feral dogs a few years ago.  All they ever found were her glasses and her clipboard.  Had nothing to do with anything other than census taker not taking situational awareness into consideration (folks around here thought it was a horrible thing and just awful, but she'd been damn foolish going up there alone and unarmed).

320 @311

You fuqing coward. You think you're an internet tough guy, if you said that to my face, I would break your nose on the spot.

321

The Acorn workers wanted to help the girls by bringing them over to the US, where they at least have the hope of one day having a normal life.

The slave traders just wanted to help Africans by bringing them over to the US, where their descendents would have at least the hope of one day having a normal life. They should be commended, really.

Is there anything thing you won't say in the defense of the left? Is there anything you won't defend?

322

You know just to get back to the main point and away from slapping around the partisan liberal troll, their main contention here seems pretty easy to defeat.

The liberal group contends that the audio portion of the video was obtained illegally because Maryland requires two-party consent to create sound recordings

Does this mean that no reporters in Maryland have ever engaged is undercover reporting where the other party is unaware of the video and audio before the report comes out?  Seems pretty easy to demonstrate that they did nothing wrong otherwise there will potentially be many journalists getting hit with this too.

323 @316 TMK

Leftist = Sexual Deviant

Yep.  I've heard it said that the only freedoms lefties care about is the freedom to stick stuff into their and other people's bodies.

How true is that?

324 I was under the impression that Giles presented the girls as already being prostitutes in their home countries and looking to get to the US...hence the Acorn workers were trying to help them facilitate the move.

Somebody please explain the Mann Act to this boy.

325

You'll have to excuse Dum-Dums angst. ACORN was probably his only real shot at getting a job. Plus they promised to fund his blow-up doll emporium and gay bath house. Now he'll have to find honest gainfull employment which doesn't defraud the American tax payer.

Moms basements hardest hit.

326 I was under the impression that Giles presented the girls as already being prostitutes

Really?
Is that what you are hanging your hat on?
The "Well the pimp and prostitute said they were already doing it so I guess it's okay" argument?
Like that even makes it sort of okay, and not the depraved, inhuman, immoral, act that it is?
I have to leave guys. People are looking at me funny as I'm laughing [ass pops off] and want to know whats going on.

327 @320 palin steele

I'll say it to your face.  Pick a place and a time for us to meet.

Even if you get the better of me and break my nose, your mother is still a whore freak.

328 You fuqing coward. You think you're an internet tough guy, if you said that to my face, I would break your nose on the spot.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:33 PM (VDj74)

You call him an internet tough guy while threatening to break his nose over the internet. And a couple of months ago you threatened to put someone in the hospital. Again over the internet. Internet tough guy.

329 I hate the subtle media bias, how they throw in the adjective "conservative"  before the names of Okeefe, Giles, and Breitbart.  Not that I'm ashamed of it, I'm proad to be a conservative.  But the media uses "conservative" like a subtle pejorative.  You;d never hear them refer to him as the liberal Chris Matthews

330 Acorn workers deal with the real world, where life is harsh...unlike where you live, where your dogs unicorns shit skittles.

Get your memes right, jackass. Skittles-shitting unicorns are de rugueur at AoS.

By the way, does anyone else have problems with their government-issued unicorn trying to hump the charcoal grill in the backyard? You should see the dents in the side of mine.

331 You ignorant dipshit...if the Acorn workers didn't give Giles advice, then the supposed child prostitutes would still be getting fuqed over as hookers, only in a dangerous and shitty country.

Or you know dum dum, they might have gotten Giles' contact information and passed it on to, I don't know, say the police. That might have saved these 'kids'  from becoming sex slaves.

But the ACORN people didn't do that, did they? No, they thought they were helping these two sell children into slavery and were cool with it.

And you felt bad for them.

Says a lot about you and none of it good.

332 I want to know where this Palid Stool is posting from.  Which institution of higher education is it at?  Or is St. Elizabeth's using internet therapy?

333

300 Flenser,

 

correct recall Liberals intercepted "for real" Newt and walked....if the Jokers in Black at SCotsoM decide that capturing sound and color waves from the ether with a recording device is "intercepting" then we're in a brave new world...until the next time a moonbat plays games.

I almost wish the donks would drop the charade and start passing laws that clearly state "the law is a) for donks and b) for GOPers...."

334 Yes, what program taught you that huh? sounds like someone watched too much A&E specials. Most prostitutes lead mundane lives, and their clients are mundane not freaks.

Or maybe I'm on the wrong track about those sympathies.  Who's the hooker in your life, Dummy?  Your girlfriend?  Sister?  Mom?

335 I felt bad for the acorn workers who were setup...they were trying to help giles out. They deserve to get fired but still they were also victims in this. Losing their jobs in this economy means they will probably now be on welfare.
Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 06:54  Ehh they'll get immediately hired by Charlie Rangels office for their tax expertise.

336

320,

Hey cutie pie I love tough libs.

337 I notice palin steele didn't refute the statement that his mother is a whore,he is just angry somebody pointed it out.

338

 

I'll give you my address. What hospital you want to go to? Bring a lunch,bitch.

339 You fuqing coward. You think you're an internet tough guy, if you said that to my face, I would break your nose on the spot.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:33 PM (VDj74)

palin steele you'd piss yourself if someone approached you with a menacing look on their face.  You're a limp wristed pussy hiding behind your keyboard trying to gain self esteem by typing big words that you don't even know the meaning of.

340 @331

DrewM, are you serious?

Let's go with your hypothetical.

Giles goes to Acorn and asks for advice for importing child sex workers.

Acorn reports Giles to police.

Police files some meaningless slap on the wrist on Giles.

The child sex workers are now stuck in some shitty 3rd world country still being child sex workers...only now they have even less hope of getting out of that life.

---

Basically, my take is that the Acorn workers thought that the children would have a better chance (albeit pretty slim) at a better life in the US than in their native country, where they would still be sex workers.

341 #327

You'd better watch out, Dummy might hit you with his purse.

342

Drew,

It seems odd that a place of business could win on this, since Giles and O'Keefe were there asking about their main business.

Could McDonald's sue me for secretly filming a Big Mac order, even if I only really wanted a Quarter Pounder w/ cheese?

If they had gone to an ACORN workers home...maybe.  But this seems frivolous.

 

343 @ MikeO at September 23, 2009 07:33 PM

Benjamin Franklin: "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."

Leftist: "Me not getting to put my penis in something wherever and whenever I want is like slavery! Now hold this chicken for me."

344 @338 fireman1

I think I'm first in line.

345 de rigueur...... oopsie.

346 Dow 9,748.55 -81.32 (-0.83%)   NASDAQ 2,131.42 -14.88 (-0.69%)   S&P 1,060.87 -10.79 (-1.01%)

 

 

YEEHAW when I left to get spouse at 1620 the market was +44....

 

I think the market is about to start factoring in the decline of the dollar for q4 and q1 '10....

 

hey Palin Steele Chicago Je$u$ better hit the TV again!

347 Isn't this the time of night the trolls' moms call them up from the basement for a heaping plate of Hamburger Helper?

348

I'll give you my address. What hospital you want to go to? Bring a lunch,bitch.

From the looks of it, he's going to need a blender for that lunch.

349 And once again, dum dum digs that hole just a bit deeper.

and by a bit deeper, I mean he's now hangin out with the devil, and saddam.

350 Video surveillance of suspected criminal activity is not proscribed or regulated by the Maryland Wiretap and Electronic Surveillance Act.

351 @338 fireman1

& @344 self

But I'll give you first dibs on his mom.

352
You fuqing coward. You think you're an internet tough guy, if you said that to my face, I would break your nose on the spot.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:33 PM (VDj74)

Dum Dum, you must stop making threats or your license to practice law can be revoked, and then you would only have memories and the JD attestation from Harvard, and that would be wrong. 

353 I would break your nose on the spot.

Ace, I think you need to trace Dummy's IP address and turn him into the authorities.

354

350,

 

sorta...the MD legislature passed it in a fit of picque with willfully ambiguous language because both sides were tired of being caught being "N'walins Nawth"

355 351 @338 fireman1

& @344 self

But I'll give you first dibs on his mom.

Posted by: MikeO at September 23, 2009 07:41 PM (WvolZ)

pretty sure the days of his mom having anything to do with "first dibs", are long since passed.

356 @343 TMK

Leftist: "Me not getting to put my penis in something wherever and whenever I want is like slavery! Now hold this chicken for me."

LOL.  Very elegant restatement.

357 #340 

The child sex workers are now stuck in some shitty 3rd world country still being child sex workers...only now they have even less hope of getting out of that life.

Dude, life isn't like the movie "Pretty Woman".  Those child sex slaves (FIFY) aren't going to meet a gerbil-free Richard Gere who is going to shower them with gifts and give them the respect they deserve. 

Basically, my take is that the Acorn workers thought that the children would have a better chance (albeit pretty slim) at a better life in the US than in their native country, where they would still be sex workers.

Yeah, you mind reader, you know their intent...  You're a cowardly, selfish fool, Dummy. 

358 dum dum,

You are a silly, silly person.

I only hope this is some sort of elaborate performance art you are working on here. If you really believe what you wrote in your #340, you are heartless and dangerously stupid.

359 344 @338 fireman1

I think I'm first in line.

Ok, then I'm 3rd in line to kick the fucktards ass.

360

Hey palin steele - here's another one for you

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Were you born a fat, slimy, scumbag puke piece o' shit, Private Pyle Steele, or did you have to work on it?

361 Basically, my take is that the Acorn workers thought that the children would have a better chance (albeit pretty slim) at a better life in the US than in their native country, where they would still be sex workers.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:39 PM (VDj74)

So is that why the saints working at ACORN also gave them advice on how to hid income and not pay taxes? Seriously, get off your lazy ass and get a job with ACORN so you can help out the poor in the world too.

362 The Canadians have more nuts than our government.  They're walking out on I'madinnerjacket.  Will any of our people walk out?

363 Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:39 PM (VDj74)

Repulsive.  Truly repulsive.  You've outdone yourself.

364 @353 Methos

Ace, I think you need to trace Dummy's IP address and turn him into the authorities.

He will tell me where and when we are supposed to meet so he can break my nose.

I tried to get some info out of this freak whore mother, but she gets sneezing fits when I give her a dirty sanchez.  I can't pass on that because it costs only an extra nickel (doubling the price).

365

Sorry, I was out having a cigar, so I hope this isn't too late:

 

186 Couldn't ACORN sue O'Keefe and Giles for fraud and misrepresentation as well?

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 06:49 PM (VDj74)

Can I sue McDonalds? I'm pretty sure that guy in the parking lot wasn't really Mayor McCheese.

366 Palin Steele:  Basically, my take is that the Acorn workers thought that the children would have a better chance (albeit pretty slim) at a better life in the US than in their native country, where they would still be sex workers.

You know this how? What gave it away?  Seriously - tell me, what gave away the ACORN workers' concern for the child prostitutes?  What was it SPECIFICALLY?

367 Anyone who excuses the child sex trade as somehow good for children because by gosh they are in America now should be summarily shot on sight.

368 Basically, my take is that the Acorn workers thought that the children would have a better chance (albeit pretty slim) at a better life in the US than in their native country, where they would still be sex workers.
Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:39 PM (VDj74)

If it was truly about giving the children a better life, then why didn't the Acorn workers call the porper authorities that could get the kids out of slavery/prostitution completely and give them a safe place to live?? You really are a retard dum dum. A true retard.

369 367 Anyone who excuses the child sex trade as somehow good for children because by gosh they are in America now should be summarily shot on sight.

Posted by: mama winger at September 23, 2009 07:47 PM (Ue9UN)

And mama aj sums up the thread nicely. Well played mama, well played indeed.

370

Let's go with your hypothetical.

Giles goes to Acorn and asks for advice for importing child sex workers.

Acorn reports Giles to police.

Police files some meaningless slap on the wrist on Giles.

The child sex workers are now stuck in some shitty 3rd world country still being child sex workers...only now they have even less hope of getting out of that life.

---

Basically, my take is that the Acorn workers thought that the children would have a better chance (albeit pretty slim) at a better life in the US than in their native country, where they would still be sex workers.

Let's do the real hypothetical you moron.

Acorn reports to the police.  They bust Giles.  Federal agencies probably get involved and he gives up everyone he's in contact with, and the potentially break up a pedophilia ring, like they tend to want to do.

But instead you are attempting to excuse criminal acts involving the sexualization of children.  Wow aren't you just the big man.

371 sorry should be mama winger. all you mamas look the same to me!

372

Maybe Palin Steele really is posing as stupid to divert attention from the issues.

But then the question would be, what's in it for him? Actually, that's also the question if he really is as stupid as he looks.

 

 

373 @368

You IDIOTA! Reporting to the authorities that some illegal females were in the US working as sex workers would only result in them getting potentially deported, where they'll be blacklisted or worse.

374 Emotional distress? See, this is one of the top ten things wrong with this country. People used to fu©k up and get a rope out and hang their sorry ass in the garage because they were ashamed. Now? Feeling crappy cause you fu©k up is grounds for a lawsuit and maybe a big payoff.

375 You're descending into DSM IV territory, Dum Dum. I think it's time for a tranquilizer dart.

376
Basically, my take is that the Acorn workers thought that the children would have a better chance (albeit pretty slim) at a better life in the US than in their native country, where they would still be sex workers.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:39 PM (VDj74)

They will know barely two words of english and would have even a worse time in trying to escape. Their foreign clients and madam will take advantage of their non-english speakings skills. Yeah, I am sure they would be praising ACORN for their thoughtfullness.

377

RAT PACK!!! SMEAR THE QUEER

378

I meant to put this comment here:

Notice Breitbart is now emphasizing the journalistic background of O'Keefe and Giles and the journalistic merits of their work?  Cover.  And truth, for that matter.

379
Dum Dum was the effete small kid who was a member of the chess, math, and camera club's.  He never had any female friends, and was always envious of the boys who seemed to speak with ease around girls.

His present day life is not much different.  He has no friends, either boy or girl, and has found the Internet a great place to receive attention.  It matters not whether the attention is positive or negative, but just the recognition from another human is sufficient to satisfy his ego. 

Life gets no better for Dum Dum, and the interpersonal relationships he so desires will never come to pass.  Dum Dum will eventually end his life's journey of misery by plunging from the Empire State Building, or taking the chick's way out by eating a few bottles of Valium. 

380 Dum dum has outdone himself in stupidity on this thread!!Ball dippingly good.....

381 @373 palin steele

You IDIOTA! Reporting to the authorities that some illegal females were in the US working as sex workers would only result in them getting potentially deported, where they'll be blacklisted or worse.

Which is worse, getting passed-around among day laborers, or sitting in limbo in a CIS facility?

Which?

Why don't you ask your freaky whore mom?

382

/OT

Attention Fellow morons,

are any of you on Xbox Live I think it'd be aces to get a Battlestations Pacific gang going.

383 dum dum,

I hate to burst your bubble but there's actually a whole unit at the DoJ dedicated to dealing with this stuff.

Also, ask a cop if they'd like to break up a child sex ring. Most I know would give their left arm or more to save kids from that kind of hell.

Are you defending the protection of child sex workers because you know, that's your thing?

384 You IDIOTA! Reporting to the authorities that some illegal females were in the US working as sex workers would only result in them getting potentially deported, where they'll be blacklisted or worse.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:50 PM (VDj74)

Blacklisted from what? The underaged hookers guild? You mean they would be sent back and not be able to be illegally transported back to the States? Is it possible for someone to be this stupid? Well Barry got elected so it must be.

385

Basically, my take is that the Acorn workers thought that the children would have a better chance (albeit pretty slim) at a better life in the US than in their native country, where they would still be sex workers.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:39 PM (VDj74)

 

 

 

Seriously Dum-Dum, take a picture and post it. I want to see what kind of a wicked sick pretzel you had to twist yourself into to arrive at that conclusion.

386 Palin Steele, still waiting for an answer to my question at 366.  You made the assertion.  Substantiate it.

387

ACORN's best route would have been to let this thing die as quickly as possible.  They just gave the story even longer legs.

388 Smells like the "Borat" lawsuit.

'You caught me on tape humiliating myself, and now I'm suing you because I want a piece of the pie.'

This is just a suit to deflect criticism.   Not only do these employees not have a case, I'll bet O'Keefe and Giles have no assets (well, except for the fur coat).

389

You IDIOTA! Reporting to the authorities that some illegal females were in the US working as sex workers would only result in them getting potentially deported, where they'll be blacklisted or worse.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:50 PM (VDj74)

Yes god forbid that the authorities, rescue the women involved in sex slavery and return them to their homes they were probably taken from against their will.

390

391 373 @368

You IDIOTA! Reporting to the authorities that some illegal females were in the US working as sex workers would only result in them getting potentially deported, where they'll be blacklisted or worse.

They were not females you idiot - they were CHILDREN. The US does not deport children (except to send them back to their loving caring parents - and yes, they check to make sure the parents are loving and caring and did not sell their child into the slavery to begin with). Child sex slaves that can not be sent back to loving parents are put into loving american foster homes. I just want to hit you until you aren't stupid anymore.

392 the Acorn workers thought that the children would have a better chance (albeit pretty slim) at a better life in the US than in their native country, where they would still be sex workers.

-------------------

What the royal FUCK? What is Shred One of evidence for this? The ACORN workers are on tape advising O'Keefe and Giles to make the girls "keep their mouths shut." That bitch in San Bernardino is saying "You can set it up however you want" when O'Keefe says he can get more money if he lets his johns get violent.

In addition, how do you know those girls are sex workers in their country? They might be schoolgirls who would have been kidnaped, lured, or bought from heartless guardians.

You fucking heartless, soulless ass. Now I'm mad.

393  Maryland does have a press shield law. Oldest in the country actually. Passed in 1896 or 1898. Can't get the exact wording here at work (sites are blocked). So they may be covered or they may not. Most shield laws cover sources but you would have to check the law and court cases to see if it was expanded.

394 As far as discovery goes, no one has mentioned the countersuit.  If they countersue, especially ACORN, for monetary damages then they have the right to discovery of income and assets.  I sued a company that broke a commercial lease, they countersued  -  discovery was a bitch; tax returns for three years, 1099's and W-2's, check stubs for the current year, bank records, maintenance, insurance, utility records for properties, etc.  It was just like working a second job for about 90 days getting this shit together.

If they do countersue for damages, they get to look at all the financial records.

395

Are you defending the protection of child sex workers because you know, that's your thing?

Posted by: DrewM. at September 23, 2009 07:53 PM (ur6Ar)

 

 

I'd say your onto something Drew. New Yorkers don't get this upset when you talk shit about the Yankees.

396

New Question

How long will dum dum the bigot go into hiding after this smackdown?

I say 4 days.

397 @366 You know this how? What gave it away?  Seriously - tell me, what gave away the ACORN workers' concern for the child prostitutes?  What was it SPECIFICALLY?

If the acorn workers didn't give a shit about the welfare of the girls...why even bother wasting their time giving advice to Giles? Why not just tell her to fuq off and take a hike? It's not like they're getting anything out of helping Giles.

398 Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:50 PM (VDj74)

Oh, shut up.  Just shut up.  Really.  I've read a lot of rationalizations for ACORN's behavior but you are the only person I've seen who is willing to condone child sex slavery to defend that organization.  How does being raped by a sick American count as a "better life" than being raped by a sick individual from a third world country?

You're a repulsive little creature who has yet to learn that disagreeing with your political opponents does not mean condoning abhorrent behavior.  I almost...almost feel sorry for you.  I cannot imagine being so bitter that you would allow your political views to overwhelm your sense of moral decency.  You really are nothing more than a contemptible talking-points spewing automaton.

399 Blacklisted? What are they, Red Hollywood screenwriters?

400 Isn't this the time of night the trolls' moms call them up from the basement for a heaping plate of Hamburger Helper?

Hey, Jane, some of us morons like Hamburger Helper!

401 I'm done with this thread.

402

It's not like they're getting anything out of helping Giles.

Dum Dum, it's all about the mortgage application and approval.  It has nothing to do with prostitution from an ACORN standpoint.  It's about $$$$ for ACORN.

403 I just want to hit you until you aren't stupid anymore.

Posted by: Elizabeth at September 23, 2009 07:55 PM (hA5JK)

I figure it would take at least a decade to do that.

404 O/T:   Savage asking "Where is the Churchill of our time?"

405 Goddammit, Palin Steele, answer the fucking question. You shoot off your mouth and then can't back it up?  Is that your game (as if I don't know by now)?

406

@373

Actually there is a federal law that protects illegals of some crimes from being deported. So no they wouldn't be deported.

407 Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:00 PM (VDj74)

Actually, if it were up to me, you'd be done with this blog, sicko.

408 And by done he's hitting F5 waiting for the next comment to show up.

409 397 @366 You know this how? What gave it away?  Seriously - tell me, what gave away the ACORN workers' concern for the child prostitutes?  What was it SPECIFICALLY?

If the acorn workers didn't give a shit about the welfare of the girls...why even bother wasting their time giving advice to Giles? Why not just tell her to fuq off and take a hike? It's not like they're getting anything out of helping Giles.Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:58 PM (VDj74)

Why "waste their time giving advice"? Because they were giving advice on how to screw the government out of tax dollars. Those acorn workers did not give one shit about giles or the child sex slaves.

410 I'm done with this thread.

Yeah, you've done enough damage to whatever shreds remained of your rep as an actual human, you filthy monumentally-ignorant pedophilia advocate.

411 I'm done with this thread.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:00 PM (VDj74)

His mommy must be calling him for dinner.

412 Okay, I've decided leftards like Dum Dum are really and truly mentally ill.  Unfortunately for the rest of us, The Won will find useful work for them in his administration.

413 If they do countersue for damages, they get to look at all the financial records.

Posted by: rls at September 23, 2009 07:57 PM (gpGpT)

I think you are wrong about that. In Washington anyway you have to win damages before you can start discovery of assetts.

414

If the acorn workers didn't give a shit about the welfare of the girls...why even bother wasting their time giving advice to Giles? Why not just tell her to fuq off and take a hike? It's not like they're getting anything out of helping Giles.

Wrong you idiot. If I recall correctly, O'Keefe specifically mentions that the funs are going to help his future political campaign. I don't remember if he claimed the Democratic party or not though.  Oh, and one more thing.  I despise enablers of child prostitution, as well as the clownfish who try to defend them. 

415 You guys are letting Dum-Dum inadvertently threadjack by using his innate stupidity.  I guess it's fun, though.

416 @401 palin steele

I'm done with this thread.

C'mon, you little bitch.

You still owe me a time and a place for you to break my nose.

If you won't provide, then maybe a few rabbit punches to your mom's kidneys will get it out of that freaky whore.  Plus, the vibrations through her colon will probably feel really niiiiiiiiice.

417 401 I'm done with this thread.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:00 PM (VDj74)

Yeah, that's what losers do - run away.

403 I just want to hit you until you aren't stupid anymore.

Posted by: Elizabeth at September 23, 2009 07:55 PM (hA5JK)

I figure it would take at least a decade to do that.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2009 08:00 PM (EYq1F)

I got time. It'd be totally worth it.

418 Posted by: Dale in San Antonio(Not Dave!) at September 23, 2009 08:02 PM (sXEVG)

didn't someone answer this question last week, something about knowing everything that is going on in the neighborhood so they can involve themselves in a future time?

419 401 I'm done with this thread.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:00 PM (VDj74)

Coward.  What's the matter have you realized excusing those helping out in child sex slavery is a bad thing?

420
The faggot Bwaney Fwany is on O'Reilly, lisping and mincing his way to the lie.  Well, there it is!

421 With a troll like this who needs pants?

2 days MAX and s/he will be back.

422 I don't know much about this MD law that ACORN is suing under, but Judge Andrew Napolitano indicated on Fox that he thought any attorney worth his or her salt would be able to get O'Keefe and Giles out of this (at that time, the suit was still speculative). 

My thought is that this suit is meant more as a tool of intimidation to prevent the release of more escapades captured on video, rather than actually being founded on a belief that ACORN and the slave enablers will ever be able to prevail and recover anything.

423 DumDum.. you justified the sex slave aspect of it saying that the hypothetical kids from El Salvador would be happy to get out of their crap hole.

REALLY? They would be happy getting forcibly raped night after night? No concern for their protection against VD or HIV or AIDS. If they refuse one night, chances are they will be beat. And if, IF there is a chance they can run away, they will end up doing the same thing on the street until they are dead.

Are you Fuqing serious about that? Do you even think about what you type?

424 "Yeah, you've done enough damage to whatever shreds remained of your rep as an actual human, you filthy monumentally-ignorant pedophilia advocate.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 23, 2009 08:02 PM "

They're are mental cases. You can't reason with them.

425

Hey, Jane, some of us morons like Hamburger Helper!

Heh, I second that remark!

426 They are such a bunch of cowards.  Notice they didn't go after Fox news and their deep deep pockets.

427 I don't know jack about this, but it seem that the 'two-party consent' would not be applicable to recordings made in areas accessible to the general public.

428

It's getting harder to believe that the Palin Steele entity is for real. The stupidity is really starting to look calculated.

429 god O'Rielly is such a dick, he is arguing to the left of Barny Frank

430 I got time. It'd be totally worth it.

Posted by: Elizabeth at September 23, 2009 08:03 PM (hA5JK)


I'm sure you can find plenty of help too if you want a breather.

431 Ahhhhhh! Bring it, bitches! We're gonna whomp you with the pain! I have a gallon of Jager and enough popcorn to feed Meghan McCain AND the Wookie. Let's get this shit underway!

432 I can't watch O'Reilly.

Watching Ghost Hunters on SyFy (God, I miss "Sci Fi").  I love this stuff.  Ghosties are fun.

433 o' really is having fun with Bawney?   O'really get that "you are such a fool, aren't you" look on his face.

434 141Driver, So, what are you smokin?

435

Isn't this the time of night the trolls' moms call them up from the basement for a heaping plate of Hamburger Helper?

 

 

Hey, don't forget the after dinner foot rub ! Mom desreves having her bunions soothed after being on her feet all day waiting tables so I can live in the lap of luxury. Thursday night is my favorite though. Thats Chef Boyardee night !

436 382

I'm on live. mostly TWoods '10. We should get an AOS group for the ubernerds here.

Palin - See if your whore of a mother will let you play past 10PM.

437 ACE
Could this be the reason for Chrissy uping the rhetoric:  "The FBI is investigating the hanging death of a U.S. Census worker near a Kentucky cemetery, and a law enforcement official told The Associated Press the word 'fed" was scrawled on the dead man's chest."
This is horrific.

Posted by: ??????????????????? at September 23, 2009 05:49 PM

 

My Sharpie ran out of ink.......

438

curious--

my memory's not that great, so I wouldn't tell you that off hand.  I've been keeping up with what's going on, but the details get fuzzy quickly. .  (That shot of Hannah in the ultra short white shorts though...seared into my brain!)

439 Over/Under on when Dummy comes back to the thread for a second helping?

440 #425

Hey, fellow morons.  We D'ohs love our Hamburger Helper occasionally ourselves.  Notice I said "occasionally"--my family would kill me if it was a regular meal.

Yay!  Ghost Hunters lights out!  Popcorn time.

441 Does this mean the victims of Dateline, 20/20, and 60 Minutes undercover investigations can now sue for "emotional distress"?  Some lawyer looking to make trouble should dig these people up, file a lawsuit and FORCE the media to have to take a side on this issue.

442

You feel sorry for "them"??? O'Keefe and Giles... or ...ACORN.

Giggle, giggle, giggle!!!!!

Another ACORN bites the dust. This time the big daddy!!!

Should be funny!

443 Palin Steele: If the acorn workers didn't give a shit about the welfare of the girls...why even bother wasting their time giving advice to Giles? Why not just tell her to fuq off and take a hike? It's not like they're getting anything out of helping Giles.

So, because they didn't say or ask anything about the girls means that the ACORNers actually were concerned about the girls?  You are pathetic.  Your thinking process is grotesque and perverted.  YOU embody the cancer this country suffers.

444 The real question is, what is the worst penalty Giles and O'Keefe could receive?

Depending on that, it could be worth losing to drag a massive amount of ACORN dirty laundry into public.

445 @441 Tinkerbella

Does this mean the victims of Dateline, 20/20, and 60 Minutes undercover investigations can now sue for "emotional distress"?

Sounds like a pretty clear equal-protection issue to me.

446 "Posted by: Jazz at September 23, 2009 08:10 PM (hnq5i)"

Actually the thinking processes seem right in line with how those presently in government are thinking which is totally in opposition to how the citizenry is thinking but none the less, right on target for the Washington crowd.

447 Ok, you guys are taking this too far...accusing me of pedophilia and such.

We look at issues based on circumstances. Does Giles look like someone who would allow girls to be raped? No.

She doesn't look like some sick profit-motivated pervert pimp. She looks like someone who is trying to help get some girls to a better country and is admittedly using an unsavory means to pay for the operation.

But it wasn't like she was saying these girls will be raped or anything like that, which I def do not condone.

So stop the baseless accusations.

448 You fuqing coward. You think you're an internet tough guy, if you said that to my face, I would break your nose on the spot.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:33 PM (VDj74)

Again, you cute little thing you, the word is "fuck", not "fuq".  And if you are interested in breaking noses, that requires a meeting in meatspace.  Please post your address and, with the wonder that is google maps, the nearest moron will be along shortly so that you may do your best to break his or her nose.  Do it not?  Then you're the coward that we all think you are.

449 BTW, I guarantee some ACORN tool or DNC operative is quietly probing the possibility of bribing the judge and jury. It's the Chicago way.

It's the Baltimore way, too.

450 Think  JURY. NULLIFICATION.

451

Hi there, Palin Steele.

Why don't you have a seat right over here.

What are you doing here?

Do you really think anyone is going to believe you were just coming over to tell the kid its wrong to solicit sex from people online?

452 This is about expectation of privacy.  With two...who knows, since one (the guy recording) gives consent...but with three (worker, fake prostitute, and pimp) the whole case is bogus.  Don't they know how to count?

453 420
The faggot Bwaney Fwany is on O'Reilly, lisping and mincing his way to the lie.  Well, there it is!

Posted by: Fish at September 23, 2009 08:04 PM (FnA4R)

Is that necessary?

Not cool, dude.

454 447 Ok, you guys are taking this too far...accusing me of pedophilia and such.

We look at issues based on circumstances. Does Giles look like someone who would allow girls to be raped? No.

She doesn't look like some sick profit-motivated pervert pimp. She looks like someone who is trying to help get some girls to a better country and is admittedly using an unsavory means to pay for the operation.

But it wasn't like she was saying these girls will be raped or anything like that, which I def do not condone.

So stop the baseless accusations.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:12 PM (VDj74)

Who is "we" in "we look at circumstances"?

What does a rapist look like?

All sex with an underage person is rape. So even if the children gave "consent" it's still rape because a CHILD CAN NOT GIVE CONSENT.

You are such a perverted, sick, pedophile asshole dum dum.

455 @447 palin steele

C'mon, bitch.  Time and place.

I will meet you and tell you what a freak whore your mother is so you can break my nose.

Or, don't tell me, and get down on your knees and pray, you little bitch.

456 Apparently John Conyers and Barney Fwank are calling for an investigation of both ACORN and the two who ran the sting.  O'Reilly just interviewed Barney and instead of asking him the obvious question of why they would investigate Giles and O'Keefe, he wasted the whole interview asking Barney over and over, "don't you agree with the spirit of what they're doing?"

457 So stop the baseless accusations.
Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:12 PM (VDj74)

Sure thing, short eyes.  We'll do that just as soon as you stop defending those who give advice on the best way to bring child sex slaves into the country.

458

@Posted by: s at September 23, 2009 08:07 PM (eA3tl)

Cheapies today, a Finck 1898 Robusto.

459 But it wasn't like she was saying these girls will be raped or anything like that, which I def do not condone.

Actually, she did.  With beatings.  And other violence.  And you are a fucking asshole.

460 Dum Dum.. Giles and O'Keefe said as much when talking to the ACORN people. That they will be smuggling them into the country and be working in the brothel.

I know 'Working in the brothel' might mean lots of things to you but when I visit your mom who is 'Working in the Brothel' means only one thing.

461

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:12 PM (VDj74)

In remembrance of Nicole Simpson's famous phone call, "he's back."

462 >>Basically, my take is that the Acorn workers thought that the children would have a better chance (albeit pretty slim) at a better life in the US than in their native country, where they would still be sex workers.

This is so ridiculous its hard to respond with a straight face, but OK, I'll play along.

If these ACORN stooges were doing such a wonderful thing to save the kids then why are they suing for emotional distress?

Why did they get fired?

463 How do you know that there wasn't a witness present in the room when this went down?   Would be very funny if there was.

464 Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:12 PM (VDj74)

Posted by: MikeO at September 23, 2009 08:14 PM (WvolZ)

Get a room you two.

465

We look at issues based on circumstances. Does Giles look like someone who would allow girls to be raped? No.

She doesn't look like some sick profit-motivated pervert pimp. She looks like someone who is trying to help get some girls to a better country and is admittedly using an unsavory means to pay for the operation.

But it wasn't like she was saying these girls will be raped or anything like that, which I def do not condone.

So stop the baseless accusations.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:12 PM (VDj74)

Um stupid.  Are you really going to apply the classic serial killer neighbor excuse?  Really?  "He was such a nice quiet man."

Underage sex is rape.  Period.  Are you really that stupid?  You don't condone it?  You know except for that one time you attempted to excuse it when a husband had another guy rape his wife.

466 #447  We look at issues based on circumstances. Does Giles look like someone who would allow girls to be raped? No.

She doesn't look like some sick profit-motivated pervert pimp. She looks like someone who is trying to help get some girls to a better country and is admittedly using an unsavory means to pay for the operation.

You're basing your "logic" solely on Giles' looks?  So, you're telling us all that if Giles looked like one of the women you'd see on ugly whores dot com, then it'd be alright to report her to the police because then obviously she wanted these child sex slaves for wanton means?  And not to mention the pimp routine O'Keefe was doing...

Seriously, Dummy, seek help. 

467 When they get a link up for donations for their legal defense fund please put it up and the money I have been saving to give to Rubio in Florida can go to those young brave Conservatives!

468

But it wasn't like she was saying these girls will be raped or anything like that, which I def do not condone.
So stop the baseless accusations.
Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:12 PM (VDj74)

Dumdum's last name is Phillips.

469
...but we shouldn't be celebrating the idea that we are going to get a look at ACORN's real books just yet.

fixed

470 Ok, you guys are taking this too far...accusing me of pedophilia and such.

But it wasn't like she was saying these girls will be raped or anything like that, which I def do not condone.

So stop the baseless accusations.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:12 PM (VDj74)

I thought you were leaving? First no one is accusing you of pedophilia just stupidity. Second so you're against it if there was rape but it was OK for the ACORN idiots to help them bring underaged girls into the country to be prostitutes. Brilliant.

471 Address, or you don't have hair on your ass.  You threatened violence to someone who called your mother, the whore, a whore.  Where is your dignity, your honor?  Address, or it didn't happen.

472 What does a rapist look like?


like one of our prez'es?

473 You know except for that one time you attempted to excuse it when a husband had another guy rape his wife.

That was totally unrelated to this. And the context of that event was what I was responding to at the time.

474


....and Dum Dum's education continues under the capable tutelage of the Ace of Spaces roster of nontenured professors. 

475 Do the police in Mayland use those dashcams like other police officers?  If so, how is that legal?

476 But it wasn't like she was saying these girls will be raped or anything like that, which I def do not condone.

So stop the baseless accusations.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:12 PM

 

Dum Dum, go ask your mom or aunt what hookers do...you  might have to give htem a five spot for the info....

A thirteen year old being sold into the sex slave biz is RAPED, dum dum. WTF?

 

477 What Is Yosi Sergant? Even his NEA colleagues don't know what his new job is. That's "transparency" for you!http://3.ly/ldg

478 Most prostitutes lead mundane lives, and their clients are mundane not freaks.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 07:30 PM (VDj74)

Most prostitutes aren't 13 and taken to a  foreign country where they don't speak the language.

Please, please kill yourself.

479 plain steele:

Kitteh says hi!

Now go take your meds.

480

Ok so let's make it clear.  Dum dum doesn't condone rape.

But he's a-ok with attractive women having young girls perform sex acts for money.

481 Ok, I'll admit I didn't watch the full content of the videos. So I'll recuse myself of my prior statements (not saying they were wrong, but I have not enough info to judge). That is all.

482 accusing me of pedophilia

I called you a pedophilia advocate.

Which you are. You supported and tried to rationalize the ACORN workers' actions in assisting the setup of a child prostitution ring. That's pedophilia. You were praising the ACORN workers. That's advocacy.

Don't like it? Think the stupid fucking words that come into that tiny pea brain of yours through before you type them, you partisan hack Obama cultist pedophilia advocate.

483 413

In may case there was never a judgement.  I sued....they countersued and then we both filed discovery motions.  Eventually there ended up a settlement, but not before all of the discovery.  I was in Missouri and sued in Iowa....and Iowa laws prevailed.

484 Ok, I'll admit I didn't watch the full content of the videos.

Shocking, you were talking out of your ass again, pontificating without knowing even the basics of the issue at hand. Making knee-jerk reactionary statements. Almost as if you're a partisan hack douchenozzle.

485 Okay, I've decided leftards like Dum Dum are really and truly mentally ill.
Posted by: Jane D'oh!

Heartily seconded.

486 So I'll recuse myself of my prior statements (not saying they were wrong, but I have not enough info to judge). That is all.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:22 PM (VDj74)

You threatened to break someone's nose for pointing out that you mother is a whore.  Now you want to call a time out?  What about your mother's honor?  What about your honor? Address, or it didn't happen.

487 481 Ok, I'll admit I didn't watch the full content of the videos. So I'll recuse myself of my prior statements (not saying they were wrong, but I have not enough info to judge). That is all.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:22 PM (VDj74)

So you didn't actually watch the things you have been adamantly defending all night long? You are a fucktard. Classic liberal fucktard to defend that which you are not even aware of.

488 Ok, I'll admit I didn't watch the full content of the videos. So I'll recuse myself of my prior statements (not saying they were wrong, but I have not enough info to judge). That is all.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:22 PM (VDj74)

So just like Barry you're shooting your mouth off about something you don't know the full story about. Can you begin to comprehend how stupid you are?

489 I would definitely counter sue for libel. Enough Acorn representatives have attacked Hannah and the other dude to warrant it. That would open up Acorn for discovery at least into the organization's structure to determine if any libelous statements had Acorn authority behind them. It would also open up Acorn for discovery regarding it's finances to see who has deep pockets, or who is really behind Acorn.

490

448-Herr..I will duel you to see who gets to kick it's(?) ass.

Either off us mortally wouned, should be able to do him in w/o further blood loss on our part.

491 We look at issues based on circumstances. Does Giles look like someone who would allow girls to be raped?

----------------

Ever hear of Karla Homolka, ass?

492 481 Ok, I'll admit I didn't watch the full content of the videos. So I'll recuse myself of my prior statements (not saying they were wrong, but I have not enough info to judge). That is all.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:22 PM (VDj74)

You show why I have nothing but contempt, and the hatred of a thousand burning suns, for liberal assholes like you. You are a contemptible fuck.

493 "Never go full Leftist. Never."

494 Where is your moral authority now, Dum Dum?

495

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:22 PM (VDj74)

You show why I have nothing but contempt, and the hatred of a thousand burning suns, for liberal assholes like you. You are a contemptible fuck.

Posted by: UncleFacts Summoner of Meteors, Overseer of Burghers at September 23, 2009 08:28 PM

 

Fuckin' A. I second that.

496 We need a post about Dinnerjacket or something.

Yawwwwwwwn.

497 Training Records -

AA EOE POSH OSHA MSDS for starters, then get into the individual employees job specific training records, then their supervisors...

498 Herr..I will duel you to see who gets to kick it's(?) ass.

Marshmallows at 50 paces, then a gentleman's agreement to pool our efforts?

499 She doesn't look like some sick profit-motivated pervert pimp.
----------------
Oh really? What's the clue? Her long legs? Her tacky earrings? The miniskirt? The wide-eyed, dewy innocence?

What did Bernie Madoff look like?

500 481 Ok, I'll admit I didn't watch the full content of the videos. So I'll recuse myself of my prior statements (not saying they were wrong, but I have not enough info to judge). That is all.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:22 PM (VDj74)

Gee what a surprise.

Dum  Dum, do you ever know anything at all about what is being talked about here?  What is this like the 500th time you have been exposed as not having one clue as to what is being discussed. 

Learn your lesson you stupid bigot.

501
Seriously.. palin steele, why do you come here? What do you get out of us Morons beating you all.the.time?

502 You know Dummy, you're too stupid to even work for ACORN.

503 I don't have the patience to wade through all the comments, especially Palin Steele's idiocy, bt I believe the Maryland law may just be specifically limited to phone conversations.

504 That picture and caption of drudge now is creepy, really creepy.

505 Heya SiM, I had me a chicken and bacon sammich for dinner.


and by chicken, I really mean more bacons.

506 @500

the only reason it seems like that is because I actually have the nuts to come to an arena where everyone disagrees with me...whereas you guys love to wallow in the safety of pure masturbatory echochamber.

507 so you can be used and abused sexually by old men in an illegal sex act

Or as PS calls it, Saturday night.

A question for the lawyers, though:  If I sue in civil court over my distress over an illegal act, doesn't the act have to have already been judged illegal in criminal court?

508 501
Seriously.. palin steele, why do you come here? What do you get out of us Morons beating you all.the.time?

Posted by: sickinmass at September 23, 2009 08:30 PM (/i4dU)

Are you effing serious?

509 I think these workers were taught to break laws, let the depositions begin.

510

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:12 PM (VDj74)

 

Dum-Dum you used to be kinda fun in a pick on your little snot-nosed libtard brother kind of way. You were kinda everyones favorite troll. However your actions in this thread are inexcusable and reprehensible  Your nothing but a disgusting reprobate and enabler.

Please go away and stay gone. Get professional help too, you really need it.

 

511 506 @500

the only reason it seems like that is because I actually have the nuts to come to an arena where everyone disagrees with me...whereas you guys love to wallow in the safety of pure masturbatory echochamber.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:32 PM (VDj74)



You have the nuts to post anonymously on an internet blog.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

512 the only reason it seems like that is because I actually have the nuts to come to an arena where everyone disagrees with me...whereas you guys love to wallow in the safety of pure masturbatory echochamber.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:32 PM

 

I think you're just too stupid to know better, dum dum. Go sit in the pink chair on uncle bambi's lap.

513 the only reason it seems like that is because I actually have the nuts to come to an arena where everyone disagrees with me

No, it "seems" like that because you know nothing. About anything.

But you defend Obama and all his associates like a good little cultist.

Which makes you a partisan hack.

And now a pedophilia advocate.

514 506 @500

the only reason it seems like that is because I actually have the nuts to come to an arena where everyone disagrees with me...whereas you guys love to wallow in the safety of pure masturbatory echochamber.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:32 PM (VDj74)

Not true. I have the balls to talk to my ultra-lib family every single day (and dinners on sundays).

And you having nuts?? that's like believing that the easter bunny really does exist.

515 it wasn't like she was saying these girls will be raped or anything like that,
--------------

Right. Thirteen-year-old girls willingly engage in sex with strangers for the profit of others all the time. Just drive by a local school and test out the theory, Palin Steele. (Please, do.)

516 You IDIOTA! Reporting to the authorities that some illegal females were in the US working as sex workers would only result in them getting potentially deported, where they'll be blacklisted or worse.

No, as minors, and witnesses for the prosecution, they'd be placed in foster care. And about 15,000 immigration lawyers would have their petitions for asylum ready long before they reached majority.

Ace, there's a point to allowing trolls and stupid people comment. But this guy is defending peodophilia, and child sex slavery. Please ban him.

517 Strobe light over at Redstate, Ace.  Seems like Max Baucus has some 'splainin to do. 

518 I guess from one sick, twisted, demented, retarded standpoint, coming here and actually defending child sex slavery is having nuts.

if you're sick, twisted, demented, and retarded.

519
505

So your sayin' you held the chicken?

520 The only thing to be concerned about is that this is Maryland, and the trial judge will be a Democrat who probably owes his election to some extent to ACORN's stuffing the ballot boxes.

521 the only reason it seems like that is because I actually have the nuts to come to an arena where everyone disagrees with me...whereas you guys love to wallow in the safety of pure masturbatory echochamber.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:32 PM (VDj74)

No stupid. The reason it IS that way is because you admitted that you don't know all of the facts. You don't have a clue about anything thing that you write about. Hell, you didn't even know what that job fair was about until the night before it happened. You are ignorant and uneducated but like all libtards you that you're superior to everyone else because you're a liberal. Isn't it time for you to perform fellatio on your "girlfriend" or is it "her" night to give you anal?

522 @323 Yep. I've heard it said that the only freedoms lefties care about is the freedom to stick stuff into their and other people's bodies.

Not so much -- they're more than happy to tell you not to stick a donut or a cigarette in your mouth, although they'd probably grant you a waiver if it joint...

523 Comprehension of things you read, hear, or see is something that only small-minded crypto-conservatives would bother with.  My feelings on fellating women are all that matters when all is said and done.

Well, and my hatred of Chinese, Indian, Jewish, Hispanic, and Russians.

And my love of child prostitutes.  Anyone have honest cloud's contact information?  I hear he has quite a variety available.

524

Can youse believe this guy?

525 519
505

So your sayin' you held the chicken?

Posted by: sickinmass at September 23, 2009 08:37 PM (/i4dU)

least I was BEHIND the chicken

526 506 @500

the only reason it seems like that is because I actually have the nuts to come to an arena where everyone disagrees with me...whereas you guys love to wallow in the safety of pure masturbatory echochamber.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:32 PM (VDj74)

Then why don't you go to the liberal echo chambers and go after them coward?

Remember dumbass you claim to be non-partisan (HAHAHAHAHAHA).  So you should be going there and attacking them on their echochamber. 

And its not the disagreement aspect dumbass.  Its the fact that you are repeatedly force to admit you don't know what is really being talked about, either because you've never heard about it, or haven't researched it.  You are coming to a fight with a boxer and thinking you are on equal footing just because you both have boxing gloves.

527

Sorry Herr-M, that was me challenging me to a duel. Forgot to change my my name back from when we were beating dum dums' ass on the thread about lefist killing democrats. Sirhan, lee harvey etc...

Terms accepted. East of the Mississipi I get him, west of, you get him. OK?

Or road trip while one of us strangles him while the other has to sodomize his loose ass mother!

deal?

528
Gen. Steele frequents this joint because it's the only place (s)he's paid attention to.

529
So your sayin' you held the chicken?

Posted by: sickinmass at September 23, 2009 08:37 PM (/i4dU)

least I was BEHIND the chicken

Posted by: UncleFacts Summoner of Meteors, Overseer of Burghers at September 23, 2009 08:39 PM

 

Bawney, put that fucking chicken down.

530 Not only should we post the legal defense fund link once it comes out, but let's "reach across" to the Democrat blogs and see how many of them want to contribute to that defense fund. I bet not one will - I'd love to see them tie themselves into knots explaining how they are defending tax evasion and child sex slave rings at taxpayer expense.

531 damn lack of typin skills, should be "at least I wasn't BEHIND the chicken"

I am so gonna get torn up on that one...

532

Ok, you guys are taking this too far...accusing me of pedophilia and such.

You mean that's not a compliment?

533 Oh señor dum dum, you are back.

Are we going to play the game you like so much again?

534 527 Sorry Herr-M, that was me challenging me to a duel. Forgot to change my my name back from when we were beating dum dums' ass on the thread about lefist killing democrats. Sirhan, lee harvey etc... Terms accepted. East of the Mississipi I get him, west of, you get him. OK? Or road trip while one of us strangles him while the other has to sodomize his loose ass mother! deal?

If he is east of the mississippi AND north of the mason-dixon he is MINE.

535 533 Oh señor dum dum, you are back.

Are we going to play the game you like so much again?

Posted by: 12 Year Old Sex Slave at September 23, 2009 08:45 PM (ur6Ar)

is that the one where he asks mommy to tuck him into his couch in the basement for bedtime?

536 the only reason it seems like that is because I actually have the nuts to come to an arena where everyone disagrees with me...whereas you guys love to wallow in the safety of pure masturbatory echochamber.
Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:32 PM (VDj74)

We don't disagree with you.  In order for us to disagree with you, you would actually have to consistently communicate a coherent political philosophy with which we had differing opinions.  Needless to say, that's not what you do.  You're simply a lazy thinker who fancies himself a contrarian.  To you, whatever conservatives like must be bad.  Unfortunately, as proven in this thread, sometimes that juvenile reflex forces you to defend the indefensible.

We don't mock you because of what you believe.  You're mocked because it's clear you don't believe anything other than conservatives = bad and often contort yourself into untenable positions just so you can play the big, bad rebel who inevitably declares yourself a martyr once you start losing the argument to those who have actually spent time developing their personal political selves.

In short, I don't believe you're stupid.  Simply immature.

537
UncleFacts.. Here, hold this.
Hamburger with 60 slices of Bacons. Just for you!
SiM

538

I sdum dum a NAMBLA member?

"Hi I'm PS, I'm not just a member...I'm the president of NAMBLA.

Couldn't Acorn suggest kids for rape from a local crack whore?

"I know a hoe dat sell you tree girl fo 8,   $50 rocks".

539 My best customers are pedophiles.  Hell, my only customers are pedophiles.  Who else would patronize my child sex slavery ring?

540 I'll admit I didn't watch the full content of the videos.

Then you're just an ass with a big mouth and empty head, who leaps to conclusions based on political bias and perceived threat to their turf.

541 Ok, I'll admit I didn't watch the full content of the videos. So I'll recuse myself of my prior statements (not saying they were wrong, but I have not enough info to judge). That is all.
Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:22 PM (VDj74)

Does that mean all this time we were talking about child prostitution you thought we were making that up?

That we are so gullible that someone said it once and it stuck so we all went along with it?
That's tantamount to what you are saying. The meme of having 13 year old illegals work as sex slaves were present in every video so far. Every.one.of.them.

That ACORN was willing to help set up a brothel with 13 year old sex slaves is a fact.

Your feeble mind didn't bother looking into that FACT because you are too stupid.
I thought there was some hope for you at one time.

You carry less worth than a sack of shit. I can at least spread the shit around and fertilize a garden.

542 Even *I'm* kind of sickened by the vileness of this beclowning.

543 Ok, you guys are taking this too far...accusing me of pedophilia and such.

Just move to Europe, like me!

544 If he is east of the mississippi AND north of the mason-dixon he is MINE.

Posted by: Elizabeth at September 23, 2009 08:45 PM (hA5JK)

Agreed.  I'm E of the Mississippi and N of the Mason-Dixon.  I'm all yours.

Wait.  That's not what you meant?

545 Palin Steele,

Maybe your problem is that you're just sorta... automatically taking the liberal position in every single debate without principle and then working out whatever spurious reasoning might support such a position?

Maybe if you sort of began with reasoning first and THEN proceeded to conclusion you wouldn't keep looking like such a total f*cking moron.

546 the only reason it seems like that is because I actually have the nuts to come to an arena where everyone disagrees with me...whereas you guys love to wallow in the safety of pure masturbatory echochamber.

Um...No
I come here because the news is pertinent and up to date and the forum is open. Unlike HuffPo or Kos which is a closed forum.

BTW Child prostitution is a blight on humanity. In the real world we may not be able to stop it, yet, but unless you are one of the lowest forms of life on earth, you do not encourage it, you do not exploit it, you do not profit by it, you do not participate in it in any way, and certainly you don't help people who are trying to do the preceding. So if you want to defend the untenable with "they needed too" "good deed" "better life in the real world" bullshit, then you are defending slavery using the old "they will be better off" argument and are no better than any other slaver that has existed throughout history. Go beg the denizens beneath some slime covered swamp rock for your home, for even they have better morality then you.

547

the only reason it seems like that is because I actually have the nuts to come to an arena where everyone disagrees with me...whereas you guys love to wallow in the safety of pure masturbatory echochamber.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:32 PM (VDj74)

 

Dum-Dum I'll bet those nuts you have get pretty sore and rank being duct-taped behind your ass all day long. Let 'em out for a spell son, let 'em breathe a bit.

548

ACE...what about the guy that wants to off the Koala bears???

Koala Bacon....Mmmmm

549
Jeeze.
PS.. You brought out ALL the ban-hammers with keys to Shut You The Fuck Up.

550 Pandas,,,whatever

551

Agreed.  I'm E of the Mississippi and N of the Mason-Dixon.  I'm all yours.

Wait.  That's not what you meant?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 23, 2009 08:50 PM (UBQGM)

LOL!

Well maybe we can work together on dumdum. I call dibs on getting to be the first to kick him in his imaginary nuts. I got some nice big boots that are perfect for the job.,

552 f*cking moron.

Posted by: ace at September 23, 2009 08:51 PM (7N7hn)

All of my paradigms are shattered when the head moron uses an asterisk. 

553 I got some nice big boots that are perfect for the job.,

Posted by: Elizabeth at September 23, 2009 08:54 PM (hA5JK)

Please.  Continue.

554 What is wrong with you people, really?  Don't you understand that it would be better for these little girls to come here, get an education (school and street), and make something for themselves?

Sure, they won't speak the language, they might get beat up once in a while, and "raped" (as you morons would put it), but isn't that better than being in a country in Latin America?  Well, one that isn't socialist, of course.

I am willing to go so far as to possibly contribute to their college funds.  They'll have to work for it.  I know you good conservatives would be all for that.

555 Posted by: UncleFacts Seasoner of Lamonas, Roaster of Wyandottes

Stand behind your chicken, man!

556 Not only should we post the legal defense fund link once it comes out...

There will be plenty of lawyers looking to defend them pro bono.  It'll go down like this, since they did technically violate the law - prosecutor pleads them down to spitting on the sidewalk on any criminal charges and plaintiff's are awarded a token $1 in damages for their civil "suffering".

Alternatively, ACORN has some SEIU goons visit the plaintiffs to adjust their attitude and convince them to quietly drop the whole thing because they're not the least bit interested in coughing up any discovery related to the operations of that office.

557 Can we pretend to hire Kayne west for a concert..and charge $1.00 to puch him in the face. We can donate the proceeds to salvadorian sex slaves or Giles defense fund.

558 The boots are black, above the knee, big tall heel, hidden zipper, nice big buckles from ankle to knee. They are my ass kicking boots (when they aren't busy being my "getting laid" boots).

559 553 I got some nice big boots that are perfect for the job.,
Posted by: Elizabeth at September 23, 2009 08:54 PM (hA5JK)


I'm expecting a mass exodus to the bunks.....commencing in 3...2...1.....

560 >> you wouldn't keep looking like such a total f*cking moron.

Ace,
Could you use 'douchebag' instead of moron?

Kinda/sorta hurts.

561 537
UncleFacts.. Here, hold this.
Hamburger with 60 slices of Bacons. Just for you!
SiM

Posted by: sickinmass at September 23, 2009 08:46 PM (/i4dU)

BUNK

562 The boots are black, above the knee, big tall heel, hidden zipper, nice big buckles from ankle to knee. They are my ass kicking boots (when they aren't busy being my "getting laid" boots).

Posted by: Elizabeth at September 23, 2009 08:57 PM (hA5JK)

I'll be back in a bit.

563

As President of the   "Skull Fuckers M.C"....we will do security.

Chuck Norris taught us ALMOST all!

564 Surely there would be some pressure from above to drop this quickly, to keep it keep it from being in the news cycle for the next 6 months.

Of course they may have some judges, and they are professional race baiters ... always playing the victim.

565

The boots are black, above the knee, big tall heel, hidden zipper, nice big buckles from ankle to knee. They are my ass kicking boots (when they aren't busy being my "getting laid" boots).

Posted by: Elizabeth at September 23, 2009 08:57 PM (hA5JK)

 

 

We're listening. Go on.

566 OK.  I'm back.

567 566 OK.  I'm back.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 23, 2009 09:04 PM (UBQGM)

Wash your hands please.

568

Wash your hands please.

Posted by: UncleFacts Summoner of Meteors, Overseer of Burghers at September 23, 2009 09:04 PM (vZVv7)

I didn't use my hands.

569 Ruh Roh. Dum Dum showed up. You all know what that means. One more time...with FEELIN'...

Dum Dum, You're a Fine Bitch (sung to the tune of Brandy by Looking Glass)

On the Jersey Shore in a bathroom stall
In the midst of graffiti scrawled
There's a hole in the piss-stained wall
That's where you put your dick

And there's a loser behind this glory hole
And he really loves to smoke some pole
When you're done on the toilet bowl
He's there to suck you off

The hobos say "Dum Dum you give great head
You're our favorite little bitch
You could probably suck the chrome
Off a ball hitch"

Dum Dum's shift goes all night long
Ten straight hours of sucking dongs
At three AM he's still going strong
And he swallows every time

A man came in from off the street
with fourteen inches of swingin' meat
Like a puppy on its mother's teat
Dum Dum started to suck

With eleven inches down his throat
Dum Dum gave it a backhand stroke
At thirteen inches he started to choke
So he finished with his hand

The hobos say "Dum Dum you give great head
You're our favorite little bitch
You could probably suck the chrome
Off a ball hitch"

Dum Dum really loves his job and he's saving up his cash
He's hoping someday he won't have to eat out of the trash
And Dum Dum got a second job besides the glory hole
By day he works for Axlerod as a troll

In the morning when his shift is through
Dum Dum goes home and sniffs some glue
And thinks of all the men he blew
while he's beating off

The hobos say "Dum Dum you give great head
You're our favorite little bitch
You could probably suck the chrome
Off a ball hitch"

The hobos say "Dum Dum you give great head
You're our favorite little bitch
You could probably suck the chrome
Off a ball hitch"

570 Does PS/HC realize that each of  their bullshit (OK, ACE etc has a better term for it) posts causes a hippy a punch in the face.

571

We're listening. Go on.

Posted by: Blazer

ok...
so I'll be wearing the boots this weekend with my new dress. It's spaghetti strap, v-neck, short (about 2 inches of leg will show between the top of the boots and the bottom of the dress). It's so deep purple it almost looks black, tight, and it ties in the back like a corset.

572 Bottom line...is this going to interfere with my supply of, um, little friends or not?

573

Wash your hands please.

Posted by: UncleFacts Summoner of Meteors, Overseer of Burghers at September 23, 2009 09:04 PM (vZVv7)

I didn't use my hands.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 23, 2009 09:06 PM

 

Wash your sheep, then.

574 so I'll be wearing the boots this weekend with my new dress. It's spaghetti strap, v-neck, short (about 2 inches of leg will show between the top of the boots and the bottom of the dress). It's so deep purple it almost looks black, tight, and it ties in the back like a corset.

Posted by: Elizabeth at September 23, 2009 09:07 PM (hA5JK)

I'll be back.  Don't know where I'm gonna find another chicken this time of night, though.

575

Wash your sheep, then.

Posted by: BrassMonkey at September 23, 2009 09:08 PM (Cxa79)

Bastard beat me to my own bestiality joke.  Asshole.

576

Wash your sheep, then.

Posted by: BrassMonkey at September 23, 2009 09:08 PM (Cxa79)

Bastard beat me to my own bestiality joke.  Asshole.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 23, 2009 09:09 PM

 

Sorry.

577 well, i'm off to my bunk to sleep off the migraine that is forming behind my eyes.
Have a good night all, and thanks for the laughs! after headbutting with the idiot all night long I needed those laughs

578

Sorry.

Posted by: BrassMonkey at September 23, 2009 09:11 PM (Cxa79)

No you're not.  You revel in destroying other people's obvious gags.  Fucking monkeys.  I hate you all.  Was that racist?

579 well, i'm off to my bunk blah blah blah blah blah....

That's what I heard, anyway.

580 @571 Elizabeth

so I'll be wearing the boots this weekend with my new dress. It's spaghetti strap, v-neck, short (about 2 inches of leg will show between the top of the boots and the bottom of the dress). It's so deep purple it almost looks black, tight, and it ties in the back like a corset.

Holy smokes!  I'm a ribeye guy, but I just returned from making and eathing porterhouse with my wife.

I'll be in my bunk for the next few days.  Poor palin steele's mom, that freaky whore, is going to miss a few paydays.


Oh, and all you morons out there:  It's a threat (criminally) only if its unconditional. 

581 Herr, as long as you didn't use monkeys, and wookies in the same sentence it isn't.

582 578

Sorry.

Posted by: BrassMonkey at September 23, 2009 09:11 PM (Cxa79)

No you're not.  You revel in destroying other people's obvious gags.  Fucking monkeys.  I hate you all.  Was that racist?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 23, 2009 09:12 PM

 

Not if you give me a banana, sheep shagger.

583 Play the chicken where the monkey drops it.

584 579 well, i'm off to my bunk blah blah blah blah blah....

That's what I heard, anyway.

you probably would have had better hearing if I said I was off to my broken bunk that we busted the day we bought it.

585

Not if you give me a banana, sheep shagger.

Posted by: BrassMonkey at September 23, 2009 09:13 PM (Cxa79)

Well, OK, but the banana may taste a little like lanolin.

586 you probably would have had better hearing if I said I was off to my broken bunk that we busted the day we bought it.

Posted by: Elizabeth at September 23, 2009 09:14 PM (hA5JK)

You live for the unrequited erection, don't you?

587 @578 Herr Morgenholz

No you're not.  You revel in destroying other people's obvious gags.  Fucking monkeys.  I hate you all.  Was that racist?

It depends.  Was "Fucking" a verb or a present participle?  One answer makes you a "racist."  The other reinforces that bestiality is truly your schtick.

588

Not if you give me a banana, sheep shagger.

Posted by: BrassMonkey at September 23, 2009 09:13 PM (Cxa79)

Well, OK, but the banana may taste a little like lanolin.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 23, 2009 09:15 PM

 

I throw feces. What the fuck I care?

589 You live for the unrequited erection, don't you?

Well yeah, I'm a woman. Men live for the sex, women live for the turn on (and the sex of course). It works out well that way.

g'night for now... might see y'all on the ONT later.

590

ok...
so I'll be wearing the boots this weekend with my new dress. It's spaghetti strap, v-neck, short (about 2 inches of leg will show between the top of the boots and the bottom of the dress). It's so deep purple it almost looks black, tight, and it ties in the back like a corset.

Posted by: Elizabeth at September 23, 2009 09:07 PM (hA5JK)

 

Fast forward to the part where the dress is off and the boots are up in the air. We morons aren't known for our patience.

591 It depends.  Was "Fucking" a verb or a present participle?  One answer makes you a "racist."  The other reinforces that bestiality is truly your schtick.

Posted by: MikeO at September 23, 2009 09:16 PM (WvolZ)

It depends on how much I've had to drink, the availability of monkeys, and the phase of the moon.  But mostly how much I've had to drink and the availability of monkeys.

592
This has been a very painful evening on AoS.  I have been taking dick from both men and women, and it's both physically and psychologically hurtful.  You meanies need to stop abusing my cute ass. 

If you agree to stop, I will fellate the women and do the reach around thingy, which I learned at AoS, to all the men who aren't liberal faggots. 

593 xxx

594 'Night Boots...er, uh, Elizabeth.

595 Posted by: Dum Dum's Worthless Unemployed Butt at September 23, 2009 09:18 PM (FnA4R)

596
I'm headbutting Herr's spent chicken.  BrassMonkey can have it next.

597

It depends on how much I've had to drink, the availability of monkeys, and the phase of the moon.  But mostly how much I've had to drink and the availability of monkeys.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 23, 2009 09:18 PM

 

My fur positively glistens in the moonlight, fucker. I could be talked into wearing Elizabeth's boots if that does it for you. Just don'e forget the banana.  

598 I got dibs on the deep south for any serving of knuckle sammiches alloted for dummy. And that is one fine baconburger, Uncle

599

My fur positively glistens in the moonlight, fucker. I could be talked into wearing Elizabeth's boots if that does it for you. Just don'e forget the banana.  

Posted by: BrassMonkey at September 23, 2009 09:20 PM (Cxa79)

OK.  I've finally gotten disturbed by this whole turn of events.  And that takes a lot.

600 so I'll be wearing the boots this weekend with my new dress. It's spaghetti strap, v-neck, short (about 2 inches of leg will show between the top of the boots and the bottom of the dress). It's so deep purple it almost looks black, tight, and it ties in the back like a corset.

Posted by: Elizabeth at September 23, 2009 09:07 PM (hA5JK)

Would you be interested in coming to Chicago this weekend? We could do a sting operation on ACORN or something.

601

OK.  I've finally gotten disturbed by this whole turn of events.  And that takes a lot.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 23, 2009 09:22 PM

Good, I haven't lost my touch. Would it help if I told you I'm a female monkey?

602 Would you be interested in coming to Chicago this weekend? We could do a sting operation on ACORN or something.

I'll bring cash!!

603 @598 Tommy Gunn

I got dibs on the deep south for any serving of knuckle sammiches alloted for dummy. And that is one fine baconburger, Uncle

Fuck! Dudes!  He promised to break *my* nose for calling his freaky whore mother a freaky whore.

*I* get dibs.  *I* get dibs.

_{Except, I'll let Elizabeth get first crack with her stompy boots if she lets me watch.}

604

Good, I haven't lost my touch. Would it help if I told you I'm a female monkey?

Posted by: BrassMonkey at September 23, 2009 09:24 PM (Cxa79)

Well, it did settle my stomach.

605 @604 Herr Morgenholz

It's the bloodlust, man.  Don't let it turn your stomach.

They don't call it long pork for nothing.  So long as you don't cook it too fast, it's all good.

Somebody needs to tell FUCKING Famous Dave's that  secret.  Don't ever eat there when they're busy.

606 Ok, Mike, lets split this thing up into a regional first come - first serve. Florida be me .....

607

Palin Stele

You really are an uninformed mongrel (dog) with little if any knowledge concerning prostitution. One of my jobs was to get those girls off the streets and help them get real jobs. Most couldn't read or write. ALL of them, except one, are now dead. Two were set on fire, one shot in the back (shotgun), five died of AIDS related health issues. Nothing mundane about their lives. They get the hell kicked out of them by their men as a rule. You're such a marginal shithead.

608 @606 Tommy Gunn

I'm good with that unless it's between 28 Oct and 5 Nov when I want to reserve southwest Fla.  All other times, I call the eastern seaboard from NJ to the Va/NC border (can't drive in NC because of an oustanding bullshit ticket).

609

@607

Sorry, what a tough job that must be.

610 One of my jobs was to get those girls off the streets and help them get real jobs. Most couldn't read or write. ALL of them, except one, are now dead. Two were set on fire, one shot in the back (shotgun), five died of AIDS related health issues. Nothing mundane about their lives. They get the hell kicked out of them by their men as a rule.

Wow.  I knew it was rough.  I didn't know it was that rough.  God bless your efforts.

611 Ok, I'll admit I didn't watch the full content of the videos. So I'll recuse myself of my prior statements (not saying they were wrong, but I have not enough info to judge). That is all.
Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:22 PM (VDj74)

Bullshit.  You quoted too much from the videos to now claim you didn't watch them fully.  You were getting your ass kicked six ways from Sunday for the reprehensible position you took and this is the out you're trying to take.  Coward...sick, twisted, coward. 

612 @607 elclynn

Very sobering.  Thank you for what you do for those girls and for all of us. 

I must apologize for the horrific nastiness of my comments.  It's no excuse, but I was trying to provoke him into scheduling a time and place for him to break my nose as he promised upthread.

613 Good reason to stay out of NC, far as I'm concerned. Got lots of friends in SW Florida....I'll pass the word. I'll take Elizabeth City to Jacksonville.

614 Dum Dum uses the name of a woman and a black man as his screen name ironically, in order to mock them.  Therefore, he is a misogynist and a racist.  So it doesn't surprise me in the least that he thinks brown-skinned girls should be made into sex-slaves.

615

palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) (VDj74)

Ace came into the pen and it's gone. I wonder if we'll see "VDj74" ever again...! With this thread, it's time.

616 Let me see if I can help you, Dum Dum:

Let us start with the proposition:

1. Child sex slavery is *wrong.*

Now that I have you started off at premise one, see if you can fashion other premises and link them into a valid conclusion.

Don't just start out with the conclusion that ACORN is pretty nifty. Start from the start.

617 @615 Cyn

Ace came into the pen and it's gone. I wonder if we'll see "VDj74" ever again...! With this thread, it's time.

I admit fully that I was a total dick on this thread.  I skirted boundaries knowing full well that I was staying within the law, and I apologize to Ace for that skirting.

That said, palin steele disgusts me.  His endorsements of rape and child-sex slavery are incomprehensibly depraved, and I am personally at odds with the fetishism that we, as a society, have swallowed--the fetishism that says that we would be harmed if any of us put him away, deep in the cornfield, where he belongs.

618

Posted by: MikeO at September 23, 2009 09:47 PM

 

P/S disgusts me too....and I throw feces...pretty low.

619 #234

Sigh, idiot.

Giles and O'Keefe are not law enforcement personnel nor were they working in collaboration with any law enforcement agency. Entrapment doesn't apply to them any more than it did to Allen Funt. Are you trying to claim 'Candid Camera' was a criminal enterprise?

620 617/18, don't feel bad guys.  little peckerhead dragged me out of lurking myself, and that's hard to do if I'm not screwing around. :p

621

Yeah but one of the main elements of "admissible" is "relevant."

(Among other things.)

If it's not relevant it's not admissible.

I hate to argue with the host, but you are taking a too literal approach to discovery rules.  Specifically (and again, I can only speak as to Illinois and Missouir, I have not practiced elsewhere) you are allowed, by case law, to request non-admissible discovery information.  Best example: auto insurance. In your typical fender bender, the fact that the defendant had insurance is irrelevant. Not even allowed to even mention it in front of a jury. But you are allowed to obtain auuto insurance information during discovery - why, because the information of who the insurance company is may lead to the discovery of who investigated the claim, ect., which may lead to the discovery of non-priviledged statements. The calculus is it possible  some type of admissible evidence be discovered if the discovery request is permitted. A very low standard.

Additionally, the defendants would be permitted to assert various affirmative defenses in the case. In that situation, discovery is permitted not only to the claims of the Plaintiffs, but also as to the nature of the defenses that are asserted. Again, I have not seen the Maryland statutets, so anything more is, on my part, mere conjecture.

622

I hate to argue with the host, but -- Malamutt

BANNED!

623 BANNED!


Heh.. that joke isn't going anywhere for a while.

624 Where do we send the money to the defense fund? I'm in.

625 I felt bad for the acorn workers who were setup...they were trying to help giles out. They deserve to get fired but still they were also victims in this. Losing their jobs in this economy means they will probably now be on welfare.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 06:54 PM (VDj74)

Are you for real? They're called ETHICS, dumbass! They can go straight to hell for all I care.

626 620 617/18, don't feel bad guys.  little peckerhead dragged me out of lurking myself, and that's hard to do if I'm not screwing around. :p

Posted by: Dale in San Antonio(Not Dave!) at September 23, 2009 09:59 PM

You make me homesick every time I see your name....I'm from SA, went to Smithson Valley HS.

627 625 I felt bad for the acorn workers who were setup...they were trying to help giles out. They deserve to get fired but still they were also victims in this. Losing their jobs in this economy means they will probably now be on welfare.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 06:54 PM

 

Damn, dum dum...pay attention. Those shitbags were probably already on welfare. You make a box of rocks look brilliant.

 

628 I have coined a new term for the game Andrew's lawyers will be playing with ACORN during the discovery process: "Soap-on-a-Rope-a-Dope."

629 the only reason it seems like that is because I actually have the nuts to come to an arena where everyone disagrees with me...whereas you guys love to wallow in the safety of pure masturbatory echochamber.
Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:32

Hey dum-dum, you don't remember much do you, like the fights we have regarding Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, Afghanistan, and other threads where Ace has gotten into food fights with us.

That fuckin' shine box ain't gonna come to you, now go home and get it

630 401 I'm done with this thread.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:00 PM (VDj74)

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:12 PM (VDj74)

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:20 PM (VDj74) 

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:22 PM (VDj74) 

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:32 PM (VDj74)

Only 4 posts and half hour more. dum-dum is good to his word, as usual

631 Steele: If I catch your pasty white ass in New York City I'll break your nose in three places, you booger eating pussy. You'll have to explain to the other jerkoffs in Jonas Brothers Fan Club that a 108-pound girl kicked your ass, you festering bedsore.

632

New! Kids singing to Dear Leader Video: http://tinyurl.com/msjzhn

Can someone please follow me from AoS on Twitter? I put up about 30 articles everyday, some that get here, some that don't, but it would be nice to be considered.........

Posted by: di butler at September 23, 2009 06:08 PM (bP+aw)

For what it's worth,Di, I am now following you as 'newz2me28792' on twitter.I hate twitter: it is said: one who twitters is a twit,one who has already twittered is a twat. just a random thought.

633 And for what it's worth for Dum Dum. You are basically an empty shell: a chimera of useless intent,a shill willing to condone child rape, child prostitution, possibly any other crime if it advances the empty goals of the left. You are bereft of social anchors,floating along uselessly in life except to make excuses for your self chosen role models:
Obama, who used the courts to get housing for people who did not qualify and sued for the right to be legal squatters until they either ruined the property or were finally forced to move out.(Fraud).
 Barney Frank, the lowest form of sludge in the House. Owner of a house used for a sodomite whore ring.Shacked up with a VP of Fannie Mae who was tearing up Barney's fannie. (Fraud, defending sodomites.)
Chris Dodd, illegal loan gainer, outright fraud,liar and political whore. Surborner of perjury by his staff and himself over his sweetheart home loan and his "lack of knowledge" of getting a deal from Lending Tree or whoever,which escapes me.(fraud, perjury, conspiracy to commit fraud and suborning perjury).used her position to get union breaks and deals but who forbids her own $50 million plus hotelsand such from unionizing. If someone tries it, she fires that entire shift.(Fraud, lying bitch and withered zombie. not a crime technically but it ought to be.)
Al Fuckstick Franken: stole a losing election with ACORN fraudulent help. A box with exactly 100 votes was found  TWICE to close a 200 vote gap and put that CUNTFACE Franken into orifice.(Fraud, conspiracy,etc.)
Acorn: pandering child prostitution advocates, tax cheats, tax fraud advisors, advocates of child rape and molestation. Too many charges to name.
Pedophiles. Rape facilitators. Liars. Frauds. You name it. Walking pieces of shit.
Ted "Cutty Sark" or "Cap'n Morgan" Kennedy. The Terror of Chappaquiddick.
The Chappa duid Dick himself. The drunk, cheater, adulterer, liar of the Senate, friend to totalitarians everywhere, and general abuser of women, children and the public trust.Unworthy of the title shit as shit can be used to grow something of value. This human compost heap was without value. And, he killed a girl in the beginning of her life. He was less than a pile of dog shit. Much less. I hope his plot in Arlington grows only crabgrass and bare dirt. His eternal flame should be a can of sterno that goes off every half hour and only sputters if it lights at all.
(Fraud in every sense of the word,drunk,Liar, cheat, woman killer, POS.)
M"chelle Ogabe, Klingon disbarred former lawyer defrocked for fraud. Piece of shit who advocated hospitals patient shifting indigent and non -paying patients to other facilities. Hypocrit., socialist. America Hater. Self hater. Friend to dictators the world over.(Absolute fraud in every sense.) James Brown in drag. Or Patrick Ewing after sex reassignment. Take your pick, either seems to work.

Dum Dum, you advocate for liars, cheats, frauds, child molesters, child prostitution advocates, socialists, tax cheats, whoremongers, dictators and their sympathizers and sodomists and their depraved lifelstyle.

To name you feces, worthless, valueless, empty, simply demeans and devalues the words. You are a speck of fly shit. Nothing more.An empty sack of child molester facilitating, child prostitution advocating, lying,cheating, totalitarian-state- worshiping  skin. An utter waste of the hemoglobin and albumin that compose you. A waste of the air you breathe and the oxygen you waste. You merit no more consideration than the stool I flush after a good BM. So from now on, I'll address you as BM, meaning Bowel Movement. That's what you are, somewhat less substantial than, but as far down as I care to go to address you. Same for PoonFace, now BM2 and Toxic Shock Cloud,now Tampon Clot.

I will try not to frequent threads you're on as I prefer not to see my shit after it goes into the bowl. I propose Ace not ban you but usher you out of every thread with a loud flushing sound. And this announcement:

Getting rid of the shit.

 Hope I have hurt your feelings, hope you sleep poorly at night having seen in print just a few of the things you advocate for and condone on a regular basis.

You  rationalized Michael Jackson giving wine to minors sleeping at his house,did in fact. Defended that POS. So facilitating and condoning child molestation are right up your alley. Bet you wish you were a Kennedy like William Kennedy Smith, freelance rapist.

You are beneath contempt. I am finished with you. You are truly beneath contempt.

634 OOPsie:
That was Frau Botox Pelosi , who used her position to get union breaks and deals but who forbids her own $50 million plus of  hotels and such from unionizing. If someone tries it, she fires that entire shift.(Fraud, lying bitch and withered zombie. not a crime technically but it ought to be.)

CORRECTION there.

635 now,was that too much?
I could say, alleged or something.

636 the only reason it seems like that is because I actually have the nuts to come to an arena where everyone disagrees with me
Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at September 23, 2009 08:32

you're an inspiration...maybe someday I'll muster a nerve to anonymously post a message on a hostile internet message board and achieve your greatness. 

637 I think it's just a method of intimidation, to scare off anyone else who is thinking of doing any "investigating". Doubt it will go anywhere.

638

What else does ACORN have?  they got caught and you can bet that Holder has his filthy hand in this....let's see extreme emotional distress? I didn't see any of that when they offering ways to get around paying taxes, bring in underage girls for prostitution. Only emotional distress I see is they got caught this time. God only knows how many other scams they set up. And God only knows how deep the corruption goes in that organization.

As far as the lawsuit goes...well if the law requires that at lest two people know about it what is the problem. Mr. O'Keefe knew that he would be taping Ms. Giles and she was aware of the taping,, so what's the problem?  That is a stupid law.. how the hell would these employees have been caught otherwise...and thank God they were exposed!  To hell with their emotional distress defense. They were breaking the law, conspiring to set up a house of prostituiton with underage illegal immigrants and cheating on taxes...how about our emotional distress? We work and pay our taxes to organizations like this and all of the organizations that are feeding off of this filthy organization? It is a corrupt organization which has been pointed out to Senators, congressional  leaders & no one listened. Someone had to have the courage to expose them. Where's the defense fund for these two. I'll contribute in a heartbeat! Take that Barney!

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