1

Biden's plan is a way to cut and run, while maintaining that you are doing neither.

You got it.

New York Times headline today:
OBAMA CONSIDERS STRATEGY SHIFT IN AFGHAN WAR

I would say that 'retreat' counts as a 'stategy shift.'

2 "Biden Plan".

3 You're right.  That is damn funny.

4

But the ninjas will still be based in Okinawa for a rapid response, won't they?

5

Sending in Jack Bauer and Jason Bourne is not an effective counter insurgency strategy.

6

Biden Plan, my butt. Who does a guy have to blow around here to get some credit?

And I wasn't talking to you, Frank, so get lost.

7 Wait, I thought the CIA wasn't supposed to have hit squads? Didn't Obama just have a shit fit because the CIA thought about a plan to have assassination squads? And now he is going to use them as the primary tool against Al Qaeda?


I smell WAR CRIMES! Time to get Holder to investigate this administration! Huh.

8

Reason 1,417 why Biden was kicked out of Scranton at the age of 3. We could tell then we wanted nothing to do with him. "Hey, maybe that stupid litttle state down there will take 'em?".

Hey, we know a future fuckin' idiot when we know one!

9 Wouldn't using Jedi be better Ninjas.  Just get them on the phone, and strangle them, with the Dark Lord outreach.

10

 

I thought that they deactivated Cheney's assassiniation squads.

 

11
I'm sure  agency operators and contractors are just lining up for the chance to be charged with war crimes by the administration.  I'd be putting my papers in if I was with the teams right now, if I hadn't already.  Run far away from these assclowns.

12

"I think the more we say Biden plan though, the more damage we do to it's viability" and the more likely someone is to find the Captain America issue fromwhere he plagiarized it.  At least this way we can read the whole plot and see whether the Red Skull had a good plan or not.

Remember, Joe's famously good at one thing. This is it. Look at how effective plagiarisn was at torpedoing his presidential campaign.

 

13 Peace with honor. Seriously this time.

14 how exactly does Obumbles plan to get intelligence [I guess i could end this sentence here] to make predator drone strikes if we have no boots on the ground making and building relationships?

15 I think you guys are confused.  Those majic ninjas don't have anything to do with Afghanistan...they're for eliminating opponents of President Obama domestic terrorists.

16

"I thought that they deactivated Cheney's assassiniation squads."

Cheneys Cock is it's own "death squad". 

 

17 "Biden Plan"

ow.

18 Maybe Joe could just flood the zone with out-of-work ACORN counselors. They seem to attract scumbags better than a Swiffer captures dust.

19

lol @16

 

20 Aspirin plants everywhere are quaking with fear at what is to come from the "Biden Plan."

21
'Biden Plan'

It hurts and yet it makes me giggle.  Like getting hairplugs and being tickled at the same time.

22

My prediction is that we will be out of ‘Stan before the end of next year. You will see the end coming when our allies get smart and start bailing out.

 

The senior military commanders when faced with a “no win” LBJ strategy need to scale back operations in order to protect assets and make preparations to leave.

23

for some reason, Biden, butt, and Frank shouldn't ever be in the same paragraph.

Especially since his nic is "plugs"

24 todler, what is wrong with "FrankenBiden butt plugs"? Is that weird?

25

An actual quote from Biden.

"Let's send them a check for $200 million, no strings attached"

I believe this was the day after 9/11?

I'm looking for the source. Anybody else remember this?

26 Blago, it's a bad mental image, but we might be able to market them in san fran and new england.

27 And as soon as I saw this this morning, i knew our retreat had begun.  it's only a matter of time before the "over the horizon redeployment" begins and our last casualty is gleefully memorialazed by the state media.  Sadly.

28

FOUND IT

http://tinyurl.com/kt7mc5

This guys plans are going to kill us!

29 I thought the Biden Plan entailed decentralizing the CIA into three districts: the Catholics, the Protestants, and the Atheists.

30 Didn't Clinton have the same idea for this sort of approach (the "black pajama-clad ninjas" jumping out of a plane and scaring the hell out of everyone?).

31

Hutch,

I remember that.

32 I'm groping here

33
At the Tuesday-morning meeting with committee staffers, Biden launches into a stream-of-consciousness monologue about what his committee should be doing, before he finally admits the obvious: “I’m groping here.” Then he hits on an idea: America needs to show the Arab world that we’re not bent on its destruction. “Seems to me this would be a good time to send, no strings attached, a check for $200 million to Iran,” Biden declares. He surveys the table with raised eyebrows, a How do ya like that? look on his face

And this guy is a heartbeat away from the Big Desk.  We're f*cked.

34 God, its going to be a long 4 years. . . .

35 Durka Durka Mohammed Jihad!

36 It's not much different from the George Will plan, or the Ralph Peters plan, or the John Derbyshire plan.   So, eight isn't enough?

37

Obama will cut and run.  That much is clear, now.  So, the Taliban and al-qaida will be back in power within a year.  Probably within the same time frame, we will have the next 9/11 style attack.  Thanks for nothing, 52%. 

As for Biden, the man is a clown, nothing more.  Does he really think, after having demonized and demoraized the men who would carry out his plan, that there is any chance this could work?  Biden gives fools a bad name.

38 God help the troops, the idiots are in charge.

39 I thought the Biden plan was to carve up the whole world into city blocks which are self governing? He callS it the MS-13 plan I think.

40 The Massengill Presidency.

41 So is Michael Dudikoff gonna play Joe Plugs in the inevitable "based on a true story" movie?

42

I agree with Derbyshire. Eight years. And back to Square One? Eff that.

If we cannot stomach fierce, scorched earth tactics, and the collateral casualties that will result, then get the hell out. Win it, or walk.

43 Relocate troops to bunkers.

Activate Ripley Plan.

Game Over for the Taliban.

44 If I thought for a minute that they were serious about actually resourcing this and providing the networks of spies, warlords, assassins, and shady characters with satchels of cash it would take to make it work, I might could get behind it.

Well, I don't see them resourcing a COIN strategy either.

Personally, I'd like to see a smaller footprint, make deals with the warlords to keep AQ out and have enough firepower on scene to blow up any building where 3 or more AQ guys gather.

Yes, it's an intel challenge but that's a challenge we are likely to have more success with than the challenge of getting the Afghan National Army up to snuff or the Afghan people on board with our COIN plans.

At this point all the options are bad and with a dick as POTUS they all look even worse.

45 The inmates are running the asylum! Literally! Run for your lives.

Seriously, 'ol Barry makes flip-flop Kerry look better every day. Since he isn't serious about winning this fight, call a truce, pull out our troops (no more losses), thank all our great allies, and go home to fight another day after Barry has been retired.

No sense dragging this shit out, let the libs/dems take the loss on their books and save a lot of young lives in the process. Unfortunately, the chips will have to fall where they may regarding consequences, but that too will rest on the libs/dems.

46

My advice is to stay out of tall buildings in and around big cities.

You really ought to listen to me. I once considered declaring my major as pre-med. Or pre-law. Doesn't matter.......it's all the same.

Maybe some day we'll let a y-chromosone back into the oval office. Or maybe we'll perish from the face of the earth. I don't really have a feel for the pulse of the nation right now.

47 If I thought for a minute that they were serious about actually resourcing this and providing the networks of spies, warlords, [character] assassins, and shady characters with satchels of cash it would take to make it work, I might could get behind it. But does anyone see the Obama administration, which right now is thinking about prosecuting the CIA for being mean to terrorists, doing any of that?

Just domestically.

48

 how exactly does Obumbles plan to get intelligence [I guess i could end this sentence here] to make predator drone strikes if we have no boots on the ground making and building relationships?

 

I think the plan was to air drop a bunch of cell phones and the locals can call in an air strike and a pizza.

49 I think the plan was to air drop a bunch of cell phones and the locals can call in an air strike and a pizza.

Thanks for the IED detonators, infidel swine!

50 I thought he COMPLETED a strategy review way back in March? Now he's back to the drawing board? WTF?

51

Majic Ninjas and a Biden Plan

Doo Dah Doo Dah

52 That was a joke son. That was a Joke !

53 Boy, you actually read the speech and it's dumbfounding. The sentimentality and naivete seems like stuff I wrote in high school. The quality is better, though. Whoever feeds TOTUS either got into a better school or has been accepted into one.

54 oops, wrong thread.

55

If I thought for a minute that they were serious about actually resourcing this and providing the networks of spies, warlords, assassins, and shady characters with satchels of cash it would take to make it work, I might could get behind it.

Jimbo, ACORN is a domestic organization only.

56 Why is everyone so down on Squir-INT and ninjas?

57 Somecody did feed POTUS ether!

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59 Sending in Jack Bauer and Jason Bourne is not an effective counter insurgency strategy.


Well...... I actually had Jack Ryan and Snake in mind..........

60

My 5 year old wants to send Osama a cake with a bomb in it. Sounds like it would work as well.

61

Obama has repeatedly signalled this change with the "It is not our place to dictate how a country should be run"

The US will cut and run from Afghanistan. God help the special forces and CIA who have to operate by themselves.

62 Majic ninjas are racist.

63

... 60 / Dagny:

Great Idea!

Doo Dah Doo Dah

64 #62

You're so right.
I prefer numinous ninjas.

65

I mentioned the super-commando-assassin-squad plan in a post the other day without realizing Sheriff Joe had resurrected it as a policy idea.  This strategy is just the more muscular-sounding, even less realistic version of George Will's "long-range war" strategy, which was the one I was snarking on.

Heading over to Blackfive now...

66

Biden knows GI Joe is a movie, right? I love how people who have never spent a day in uniform think we can rely only on special forces to "root out Al-Qaeda", as if SF soldiers are adamantium laced killing machines that do not need things like logistical support, reliable intelligence, or air support to operate behind enemy lines. They are very good at killing people, but they have to be given help to do all the killing.

I don't pretend to know the best method of dealing with Afghanistan right now, but I tend to trust McChrystal's judgement over some liberal DC think tank stocked full of Ivy League lawyers and history professors. Covert action is an important part of any war, but conventional combat troops are also needed when fighting a counterinsurgency campaign.

67

55 Fritz:

ACORN is in fact the only government-resourced organization with the guts to risk federal prosecution to accomplish their mission.

(A)fghan (C)rusade (O)rganizers (R)eady (N)ow.

If they can deploy within 2 weeks, I'd say give them pardons.  It'd be like deploying 10,000 Dirty Dozens at once.

"Brad Pitt ain't got nothin' on me!!!!"

And if the pardons aren't tempting enough, just mention the heroin.

 

68

59 Biden

I'm sorry, Mr. Vice President, but I think Snake Pliskin's dead.

- somebody had to say it -

 

69 68

Gotta luv him by God......

Escape from New York is a movie... you silly winger.  Movies arent real.


Tom Clancy books are REAL

John Terrance Kelly..... aka..... Snake......... LIVES!!!!

And Jack Ryan is POTUS...... remember the plane crash.  That shit REALLY hapened.

How's it fell to get pwned by Sherrif Joe..........?????

70

But of course, we send in ninjas with attack trained, genetically enhanced squirrels, rats, snakes, and pigs -- hey, it worked for the Israelis!

Joe Biden will don a Rambo outfit (complete with headband and long, flowing raven locks -- he already has the ripped bod, just keeps it hidden so as to not cause the chicks to go crazy) and will lead the ninjas and their attack trained, genetically enhanced squirrels, rats, snakes, and pigs (and dolphins!  forgot them; gotta have those dolphins!) into the mountain redoubts of the Taliban and al-Quaeda; using the skills he taught both Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris (plus his special ability to converse telepathically with the animals) Joe will lure them into his cunning trap and then kill or capture all of them, including Osama, and using his mind control skills which he taught to Qui Gon Jin he will turn the former hordes of violent jihadists into reformed men who now desire only to be candy stripers and to knit afghans for poor, little old ladies and cute puppies.  Game over!  We win!  Case closed punks!

This would all be farcically hilarious and pure comedy gold...if it weren't for the sneaking hunch that our VP actually thinks this way.

71

69 Biden

I salute you, Mr. Vice President.

As for how it feels, ask Hillary !!! - You're sitting in her chair.

Then again, so is Obama.

72 49 I think the plan was to air drop a bunch of cell phones and the locals can call in an air strike and a pizza.

Thanks for the IED detonators, infidel swine!
Try calling out on our new SploDy 500NG. Sorry about the ringing in the ears. Seems to be a side effect.

73 While the CIA may be gutted, I do not support sending in tens of thousands of troops under Obama's command.

YOU ARE ADVOCATING NEEDLESS DEATH FOR NO STRATEGIC PURPOSE WITH NO VICTORY.

THE ADMINISTRATION WILL FUCK IT UP, PERIOD.

Now, Jimbo, stuiec, et all. If you are so pro sending in the calvary, PLEASE EXPLAIN how it will in fact succeed under Obungo's leadership an WHY AFGHANISTAN ISN'T VIETNAM 2.0.

Everyone is avoiding this, just posting, rah, rah, send in the troops! Obama must be wrong because he hasn't made a decision!!! Obama is a fucking idiot, why in the HELL do you think he will win Afghanistan.

Fuck that place, bomb the living shit out of it like we did in 2001, when the Taliban gets too comfortable.

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