Obergruppenkommander Charles Speaks: Hot Air Racist, Fascist; Must Be Purged

Apparently CJ's moderator Kilgore Trout went over there last night and started posting racist stuff. To see, he said, if it would be cleaned up.

It wasn't. Because both Allah and Ed were asleep. It being the middle of the night.

Actually, it's only arguably racist if you yourself believe that wookies = black people, which Kilgore Trout does.

So he spammed the threads with this, and it wasn't cleaned up to until the AM.

Obergruppenkommander Charles' conclusion? They're racists.

UPDATE [DrewM.] Hot Air responds by moving LGF from "War on Terror" blog roll to "Left Channels". Well played Hot Air. Well played indeed.

(via Blazer)

Posted by: Ace at 02:06 PM



Comments

1 christ, he is despicable, what playing games? is he 12?

Posted by: Wilsons ..willow at September 18, 2009 02:07 PM (GkYyh)

2 He's part of that "reality" based community these days.

Posted by: lorien1973 at September 18, 2009 02:08 PM (IhQuA)

3 Didn't Charles used to make a big deal about how comments did not reflect the views of the blog host?

Didn't he get all pissed when lefties would make such claims about LGF?

Posted by: Jason at September 18, 2009 02:09 PM (Nljcu)

4 This is like breaking into someone's home and raping their wife, to test if the backdoor is unlocked.


Posted by: looking closely at September 18, 2009 02:09 PM (6Q9g2)

5 doesnt HA still have them on sidebars? wth is going on here!

Posted by: Wilsons ..willow at September 18, 2009 02:09 PM (GkYyh)

6 Do you have screencaps? I refuse to give CJ any traffic.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 18, 2009 02:09 PM (yn1QW)

7 Playing the race card. No better than Jimmah the anti-Semite, MoDowd the Angry Sexless One, the Left Stream Media and the 'Rat Party. Whatever blows your hair back CJ, I guess.

Posted by: Date and time stamped at September 18, 2009 02:09 PM (jKRue)

8 When will LGF finally be bought out by Daily Kos? I imagine Kos will poney up 30 pieces of silver and CJ will gladly take it.

Posted by: a dude who knows at September 18, 2009 02:10 PM (nF4Jh)

9
The interwebs should ban hotair. Who do I email about that?

Posted by: Charles Johnson at September 18, 2009 02:10 PM (+9Rf8)

10 In reality, he's just looking for a way to go full retard, though. Isn't he? Anything that disagrees with a premise of his - he deletes. And bans whomever posted it.

He's accepted the idea that soft trutherism (Van Jones) is a-okay. A few years ago, even the slightest hint of soft trutherism would have been outed. But now? Nope.

Posted by: lorien1973 at September 18, 2009 02:10 PM (IhQuA)

11 Is calling someone a "Wookiie" racist?

Oh. . .I get it, "Sasquatch" is the politically correct term.


Posted by: looking closely at September 18, 2009 02:11 PM (6Q9g2)

12 3 Didn't Charles used to make a big deal about how comments did not reflect the views of the blog host? Didn't he get all pissed when lefties would make such claims about LGF?
Posted by: Jason at September 18, 2009 02:09 PM (Nljcu)

Yep. On a fairly regular basis, as I recall.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 18, 2009 02:11 PM (yn1QW)

13 Hmm. So Killgore is either a CJ sockpuppet as previously proposed...or Janeane Garofalo.

Posted by: Fortunate Son at September 18, 2009 02:11 PM (FaLC9)

14 Wookies aren't racist. Some of my best friends are Ewoks.

Posted by: Chewbacca at September 18, 2009 02:11 PM (plsiE)

15 Oh, just blow me.

Posted by: Dan Rather at September 18, 2009 02:11 PM (t/GDA)

16 This lasted all but 30 seconds this morning...
<blockquote>I'm just about finished with the GOP for good.</blockquote>
Charles,I've hung on as long as I could. After KT's little "experiment" with your blessings I guess I'm about done here. That was classless. It proved nothing, you knew it would be remedied. Why? What has happened to this place? You repeatedly bash my religion, although it does no harm to you. You are still allowed to believe what you believe. I don't believe that most of school curriculum are "fair and balanced" on most subjects to steal a silly phrase for a moment.You continue to paint me as a racist, a thug, a kook, etc, over my objection to government control of things they have no authority over.I do not deny what you see, that there are indeed racists among us. That is being addressed among our groups. However what you don't see is, it is not one large group protesting together, but many groups, from the left, right and center protesting together. I personally am tired of your broad brush application of what is simply not true. If a racist protests is does not automatically make all protesters racist. I'm not, but you wouldn't know that.Thanks, I know I'm banned.

Posted by: IP at September 18, 2009 02:12 PM (4UiF5)

17 lol @ 4. Actually quite accurate.

Posted by: dan-O at September 18, 2009 02:12 PM (+9Rf8)

18 'obergruppenFÜHRER' , actually

Posted by: Dang Straights - Knight of the Status Quo at September 18, 2009 02:12 PM (Haq+B)

19 Didn't a lot of left wing blogs and MSM cronies used to call LGF a bunch of racists back in the day?

Posted by: Pechon at September 18, 2009 02:13 PM (kvVj2)

20 7 Do you have screencaps? I refuse to give CJ any traffic.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 18, 2009 02:09 PM (yn1QW)

Here's some PDFs I made last night for mockery purposes.
Bizarre.

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 02:13 PM (B5RxW)

21 Does this mean Kilgore Trout is racist?

Posted by: David in San Diego at September 18, 2009 02:13 PM (pzn9q)

22 They have lost it over at LGFs. CJ was one of the first blogs I started reading after 9/11 and I used to enjoy what was his level headed approach to the WoT. I happen to be an atheist, and while I appreciated some of the articles he would link to about evolution, his tone started getting a bit nasty regarding people who didn't share his view. You're not going to win any converts with that tone. And lately he's really gone off the deep end. If you like Obama, fine, I disagree, but give me rational reasons why you do and don't call me a racist if I disagree. Yikes...

Posted by: Ann NY at September 18, 2009 02:14 PM (n82VB)

23 I was forced to stop reading LGF about 6 months ago when my company's SonicWall firewall inexplicably started blocking it. I was disappointed at first, but not any more!

I read LGF religiously for 4 years, but I'll never go back.

Posted by: Pyrocles at September 18, 2009 02:14 PM (xzSvW)

24 They're not racists. It's worse.

Daywalkers.

Posted by: tachyonshuggy at September 18, 2009 02:14 PM (TXp3z)

25 Allah and Ed weren't asleep. They were riding with us!!!

Posted by: John at September 18, 2009 02:14 PM (vhLeK)

26 The whole Republican ideology now caters to white angst. It is racialized more than ever before. You're stupid if you don't see it.

Posted by: Ed Bernstein at September 18, 2009 02:14 PM (A/1+S)

27 Randomguy posted this last night, the whole thread I think:

http://minx.cc/?blog=86post=292489#c6143284

Posted by: Tokin42 at September 18, 2009 02:15 PM (ONkRu)

28 Boy, I wonder why CJ feels the need to start attacking other blogs? Is he feeling defensive about something? Or maybe maneuvering to be the number one conservative site approved by Daily Kos?

Posted by: Dreagon at September 18, 2009 02:15 PM (meJ2f)

29 11 In reality, he's just looking for a way to go full retard with an army of Corkeys, though. Isn't he?
FIFY

Posted by: Navin R Johnson says Listen To Iron Maiden at September 18, 2009 02:15 PM (J7/Ud)

30 Excellent that Killgore Trout's Bogus Journey made the top post, Ace.
What graduates this from a wall-pissing from some loser LGF commenter, into a window on LGF itself, is this from the site host:
947 Charles Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:20:04am replyquote
* 3* down* up* report
I just took a look at that Hot Air thread, and they’re still making comments about wookies. Some of the names are bloggers who run anti-Muslim blogs. The bigotry is completely out of control.
I can’t really applaud KT for doing this — I wouldn’t have done it, and didn’t advise him to do it, by the way, to head off the inevitable accusations that I was behind this — but his point is absolutely valid. They’re accepting a disgusting amount of racism and extremism at Hot Air.
(Also, that 3 people updinged this. The cultishness! It burns!)
I'm sympathetic to Circa and others who want a LGF moratorium. Really. I am. I'd been hoping that CJ would gently slide into irrelevance like John Cole.
But this was just a new low. CJ has become an excuser of sabotage; he's become oneof the moral-equivalence "but-heads" he used to mockevery four hours."LGF Hits Bottom, Digs."
Another factor here is that Killgore is attempting to poison the well against criticism of Michelle Obama's personal life, who profited mightily from healthcare because of her personal life: in the form of being a grievance-monger who happened to be married to a state senator and then a US senator.

Posted by: David Ross at September 18, 2009 02:16 PM (GwV+j)

31 "Thanks, I know I'm banned."

That's the core of it, right there.

Really sad to see that CJ has slipped into self-parody. Really sad, considering he was the O'Keefe and Giles of the '04 election.

Posted by: Filly at September 18, 2009 02:16 PM (lsiux)

32 CJis acting totally rational here.

Posted by: John Cole at September 18, 2009 02:17 PM (o5vMm)

33 Johnson has seriously lost his mind. He's imploding. Don't comment there. It's enabling.

Posted by: mare at September 18, 2009 02:17 PM (X1fsj)

34 Those of you not getting the purpose of the deployment of Michelle as the face of Obamacare, you're looking at it right here.
They can't "win," so this. A different kind of win.

Posted by: oblig. at September 18, 2009 02:17 PM (2wzYk)

35 We would vouch for them, but they hunted us and cooked us.Or was it you guys? That ValuRite you gave us packed a punch.

Posted by: hobo#3 from the grave at September 18, 2009 02:17 PM (t/GDA)

36 CJ decided in first comment about the meltdown to outright lie and distort the truth:
140 Charles9/17/2009 11:06:17 pm PDT 5downupreport
re: #129 Slumbering Behemoth
>I dig the point, but... the approach? KT, WTF dude?
Yikes. Of course they're all claiming that I sent him over there. Ouch, my head.
As you can see by my record of the comments, no-one did such a thing. Lying douchebag.

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 02:17 PM (B5RxW)

37 I've had many heated and insulting words with Toady #1. It is a remorseless POS. And is not worth space on a fine blog such as AoSHQ.

Posted by: maddogg at September 18, 2009 02:18 PM (OlN4e)

38 The whole Republican ideology now caters to white angst. It is
racialized more than ever before. You're stupid if you don't see it.

I'm stupid if I don't agree with you. That is a great argument. I'm totally convinced.

Posted by: kefka at September 18, 2009 02:18 PM (udoJ3)

39 I love how CJ isn't so much concerned about the moby tactics because of the dishonesty and wrongness of it, but because people might think that Emperor Johnson might be responsible. Otherwise, it's cool.
Then again, they did have threads portraying Glenn Beck in a positive light, so they had it comming. Next on LGF: Glenn Beck uses Crest toothpaste; Crest linked to racist extremists.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 18, 2009 02:18 PM (plsiE)

40 These comments need to be cleaned up post haste.

Posted by: Kilgore Pooter Aroma at September 18, 2009 02:18 PM (QUjKv)

41 CHARLES! I can address him directly because there's a 100 percent chance he'll read every last comment on this thread.
CHARLES!! You have lost your fucking mind! There's a difference between giving a nuanced critique of the "tone" of certain things. You're now like a Art Bell nuts looking for the shit, conflating, make a fool of yourself.
Please stop.

Posted by: Aaron at September 18, 2009 02:18 PM (5i9U+)

42 I wonder if AP and Ed will de-link now?

Posted by: rockhead at September 18, 2009 02:18 PM (RykTt)

43 "It is racialized more than ever before."

No, you're stupid and profoundly historically ignorant.

Let me guess: are the current tensions in Germany between Turkish immigrants and native Germans "racialized more than ever before"?

Posted by: Jason at September 18, 2009 02:19 PM (Nljcu)

44 Didn't a lot of left wing blogs and MSM cronies used to call LGF a bunch of racists back in the day?

I thought so. Didn't they? LGF got blasted constantly for being extreme. Not that I was paying attention all that carefully, but that was certainly the impression I had.

Perhaps because charges of racism are so ubiquitous I just assumed that LGF caught more than it's share.

Posted by: Synova at September 18, 2009 02:19 PM (NTu5Z)

45 What the hell is this,, blogger wars? Give me a break. Not defending them by any means but you can't find a better use for your time and space? I mean, we could talk about, for instance, how some folks gripe about others throwing "labels" around and yet need to "remove the log from their own eye". And if ya think I'm off base here, go back and read the blogs and posts here. Then tell me how many of ya aren't "labelers". How many here "trash" folks simply because it's a "safe" trashing on this site. And yet you've never really looked into why the folks you're trashing see things as they do. Hell, most of ya here evidently think it's a good thing to have a privately owned bank controlling your money supply and therefor your economy. Talk about uninformed.

Posted by: teej at September 18, 2009 02:20 PM (c459z)

46 ...and nighttime is the only time Nancy Pelosi's aides have to read conservative blogs.

Posted by: t-bird at September 18, 2009 02:21 PM (FcR7P)

47 I know Allah stole my strawberries. And Ed help him. I have it worked out with mathematical precision!


Posted by: Charles Johnson at September 18, 2009 02:21 PM (ur6Ar)

48 What Wilsons.. willow said. How friggin juvenile can one be?

Posted by: Dave in Texas at September 18, 2009 02:22 PM (WvXvd)

49 Oh dear, Herr Huffy has summoned the trolls.

Posted by: Filly at September 18, 2009 02:22 PM (lsiux)

50 BTW, ace, thanks for having the big hash out in that "second thought" thread yesterday. I formally apologize for being a pedantic dick at times, and needling you, but it was NOT in mean spiritedness. I was chiding you, in my feeble attempt to be jovial ... But I am not goign to kiss ass around here, and like being able to disagree in a snarky way W/O TEH GD BAN HAMMER.
I'll try to keep a bit more respectful, but I've found that your not a big pussy anyway, so what the hell.

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 02:22 PM (B5RxW)

51 Dead pool on the delinking at HotAir!
I'm betting LGF is off HotAir's "war on terror" link list by 7 PM EST tonight

Posted by: David Ross at September 18, 2009 02:22 PM (GwV+j)

52 If anyone can stand it, let us know when he's looking for new 'hatchlings'. I like the idea of him playing whack-a-mole withbanning new accounts that are posting comments he probably won't tolerate. Just to pi$$ him off.
-Hey, I'm usually bored @ work. Gotta kill time somehow...

Posted by: Navin R Johnson says Listen To Dead Kennedys at September 18, 2009 02:23 PM (J7/Ud)

53 Thanks, randomguy.Bizarre and derangedwould be understatement.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 18, 2009 02:23 PM (yn1QW)

54 teej, you're a genius. Keep up the crazy good work!!!!

Posted by: Dr. Spank at September 18, 2009 02:23 PM (QUjKv)

55 The whole rally-the-whites-take-back-America shtick won't work in the long run for your stupid party.

ACORN was always just a white angst thing about poor black votes. And then this whole health care opposition boils down to the tried-and-true rightwing bogeyman "welfare queen" troope in which whitey taxpayer doles out subsidies to overbreeding inner-city teen moms and shooting viuctims.

Same old shit.

Posted by: Ed Bernstein at September 18, 2009 02:23 PM (A/1+S)

56 Does anyone actually go to LGF anymore? I self-banned myself from there a long time ago.

Posted by: TxDan at September 18, 2009 02:23 PM (16z9+)

57 "Perhaps because charges of racism are so ubiquitous I just assumed that LGF caught more than it's share."

No there really were a fair amount of racist "nuke mecca" crazies that used to post at LGF back in the day. Charles tolerated them and even though I read his blog, I stayed out of the comments.

Posted by: Jason at September 18, 2009 02:23 PM (Nljcu)

58 #47

The standing leftwing smear of LGF was that it was "a racist hate site" because of its constant coverage of Arab world and Islamic dysfunction.

That smear probably doesn't hold anymore, because there are virtually never threads on those topics anymore.

Posted by: looking closely at September 18, 2009 02:23 PM (6Q9g2)

59 But without going to LGF, how will we get photos of bike parts and ocean liners? And jazz videos? And morning open threads? Mid day open threads? Evening open threads? Overnight open threads?

Where will we go to get content!?!?

Posted by: lorien1973 at September 18, 2009 02:24 PM (IhQuA)

60 Wow, between Andy Sullivan and Charles Johnson, we now have a pretty solid bar to measure when someone has gone completely batsh*t crazy.

Posted by: shibumi at September 18, 2009 02:24 PM (OKZrE)

61 So LGF has a lot of time on it's hands these days?

Posted by: GarandFan at September 18, 2009 02:24 PM (ZQBnQ)

62 5
doesnt HA still have them on sidebars? wth is going on here!

Yeah; I don't get it either (especially after last night). I just went over to Whittle's as he has had a link for as long as I can remember (I was going to ask him to reconsider) and it has disappeared; not sure when. HA definitely needs to follow suit here, along with any site that doesn't supply its readers with a good dose of thorazine.

I think I only posted over there a dozen times, and haven't logged in for over 2 years. I think the man has fallen off his bike without a helmet a few too many times, and his cultists are even worse.

Posted by: hindmost at September 18, 2009 02:24 PM (dXOSl)

63 of course it's wrong to call her a wookie, Michelle Obama is obviously a Klingon.

Posted by: todler at September 18, 2009 02:24 PM (fPOY0)

64 So hell, I'm racist. Michelle Obama looks like a depilated wookie. She's huge, and ugly. This of course implies that I think less of black people, in general.
What a stupid, pinheaded line of reasoning.

Posted by: HiHo at September 18, 2009 02:25 PM (5V/kc)

65 Man, but this is incredibly stupid. Allah and Ed can remove the racist leftard crap, and publish the IP addresses involved, proving the provenance. As if Trout can hide himself? Or is he so paranoid he hides behind a Tor network?

Posted by: George Orwell at September 18, 2009 02:25 PM (FzArf)

66 He's not merely anti-impropriety, he's on the other side.

I'm not sure why there's so much discussion of Little Green Echochamber here, but I guess it's comparable to the discussion of Excitable Andi. I guess it's just hard to ignore a train wreck, especially one that keeps trying to claim the mantle of conservatism or something. It just seems obliquely ironic (doncha think?) for this blog to trash that blog for trashing another blog. (I realize this blog isn't trashing that blog for leaving up something planted by this blog on that blog.)

I have no idea what the point of KT's actions was. Is LGF changing its focus to being anti-every-other-blog?

Posted by: Original Roy at September 18, 2009 02:25 PM (jV0wG)

67
Oh my. "Kilgore Trout" wasn't just posting about wookies. He was going full-out n-word, repeatedly, mixed between taunts of "is this what you want, Ed?" He'd also toss in "what does it take for you guys to take responsibility?"
Um, KT, you were the one posting that crap. It's YOUR responsibility.
Good God, some people are sick.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 18, 2009 02:25 PM (ZJ/un)

68 Why, it's almost as if the people who post inflammatory stuff on conservative websites may not be on our side and didn't read Ace's post yesterday.

Tea? (to steal a line)

Posted by: t-bird at September 18, 2009 02:25 PM (FcR7P)

69 Dude, I thought EdBernstein was a parody of a liberal. I was justabout to accuse the poster of anti-Semitism for choosing a Jewish last name...
Way to embarrass the tribe, and on Rosh Hoshana no less. Tool.

Posted by: David Ross at September 18, 2009 02:25 PM (GwV+j)

70 "The whole rally-the-whites-take-back-America shtick won't work in the long run for your stupid party."

Sure, but screaming "RACISM" at the top of your lungs until the work itself has all the force and meaning of the (now utterly meaningless) f-bomb...sure fire plan for a permanent majority Eddy.

Posted by: Jason at September 18, 2009 02:25 PM (Nljcu)

71 If anyone wants a good laugh go look at the Sex Offender registry and type in the name Charles Johnson. Several of the douchebags are spitting images of him. According to his logic that makes him a child rapist.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at September 18, 2009 02:25 PM (SqAkN)

72 #59 - Where does our penchant for riding around the countryside dressed in white robes fit in?

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 18, 2009 02:26 PM (SenrC)

73 How ridiculous, but I can see where this could cause trouble. Is this even ethical? (I know, probably a dumb question again; bear with me, I'm rather new to the political blogosphere).

Posted by: unknown jane at September 18, 2009 02:26 PM (5/yRG)

74 I've tried, I just can't give a shit about any of this.Soft-core pronholds more interest than this pony tailed loser and his punk-ass blog.

Posted by: Mons Pubis at September 18, 2009 02:27 PM (o5vMm)

75 This silly assed bullshit is LGF's reason for being. They have no other reason.
Lizards! Behold! Your comet approaches...

Posted by: maddogg at September 18, 2009 02:27 PM (OlN4e)

76 Is it really that hard to just ignore the pony-tailed Nancy and his little green furballs?

Posted by: Angry Mob Member #76576051 at September 18, 2009 02:27 PM (fkgyi)

77 I guess when Killgore Trout rides through other threads burning crosses, I'm feeling a little distrustful of other commenters today.

Posted by: David Ross at September 18, 2009 02:28 PM (GwV+j)

78 32 "Thanks, I know I'm banned."That's the core of it, right there.Really sad to see that CJ has slipped into self-parody. Really sad, considering he was the O'Keefe and Giles of the '04 election.
yes, but he did serve our dark purpose, bawhahahaha

Posted by: Karl Rove at September 18, 2009 02:28 PM (8g9qq)

79
59
The whole rally-the-whites-take-back-America shtick won't work in the long run for your stupid party.

Ed, do you have any idea what you're doing? Are you just pasting your talking points apropos of nothing in any convenient thread?

Posted by: Original Roy at September 18, 2009 02:28 PM (jV0wG)

80 Ace, why do you continue to attack me personally by linking my name to titles used by Nazi officers? Why must you also libel me by suggesting that my various banningsis somehow shutting down dissent? Manatee No-Manners, CJ's Tame Scottish Titan Arum, Crapo (the whiny) theEldar, Kill(major)bore Bass, and Sham-Wow-tra did all the research, and I can tell you without a doubt that everyone I've banned was either a Birther, Creationist, or Fascist (or all three). I can also tellwho is any other above,without my wonderful cadre, because who else would down-ding my posts other than a Birther, Creationist, or Fascist?
I will find a way to ban you from my Internets, Ace, for your libel. I don't give idle warnings.
And to all those morons who wish to sock-puppet at my wonderful site? Know that I'm already onto you and that you're already BANNED! I bid you all adieu.

Posted by: Cahrles Jhonson (now with 100% more liberalism!) at September 18, 2009 02:29 PM (9hSKh)

81 "Hell, most of ya here evidently think it's a good thing to have a privately owned bank controlling your money supply and therefor your economy. Talk about uninformed."

Wow. I guess nationalized banks is the way to go, right? Too bad we don't have a federal bank to control money supply, the country would be out of this mess, for sure... Thanks for being so informative!

Posted by: Ann NY at September 18, 2009 02:30 PM (n82VB)

82 Same old shit.

Unlike yelling "racist" at someone who has the temerity to oppose one of your Dipshit-In-Chief's dumbass policy ideas, I guess.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 18, 2009 02:30 PM (SenrC)

83 Ace, please add randomguy's pdf's to the top of your blog post for the whole world to see.. They should be hung around Johnsons neck like an anchor. Kilgore Trout is a renowned racist and CJ condoning this activity by his chief lackey makes him one too by association.

Charles Johnson Is A Racist !!!!

Keep repeating, it will drive Chuckles insane.

Posted by: Blazer at September 18, 2009 02:31 PM (+FzLa)

84 Let me get this straight, CJ has railed against AP and other news outlets attributing comments made on his site to him and then he sends his minion over to other sites to seed bad comments then uses against the site?

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 18, 2009 02:31 PM (MbyMv)

85 I was given a piece of advice many years ago that has proved useful, and accurate.
Everyone is entitled to meet one asshole everyday. If you meet two, YOU are the asshole.
Those people are surrounded by assholes, in their own minds, or what's left of them.

Posted by: maddogg at September 18, 2009 02:31 PM (OlN4e)

86 Again, Chas at his Capt. Queeg-iest is best shown on the recent thread re: TEA Party's theft of a Commie raised-fist logo. Nuckin' Futs!!!

Posted by: Rewrite! at September 18, 2009 02:31 PM (UaSIe)

87 Charles is a smart guy. His embracing the narrative of the anecdotal "racism" conflated to slime almost half of America (especially the South) isn't a quest for intellectual honesty on his part. He's using this canard, like MSNBC is, as a political cudgel.Which makes him a fucking scumbag like they are. Using "Race" to impugn millions of people is vile.

Posted by: Aaron at September 18, 2009 02:31 PM (5i9U+)

88 Next on LGF: Glenn Beck uses Crest toothpaste; Crest linked to racist extremists.

Don't tell me the Cavity Creeps weren't thinly-veiled American blacks. And all the Crest guys were lily-white.

Posted by: Cahlres Jonesin at September 18, 2009 02:32 PM (TXp3z)

89 The whole rally-the-whites-take-back-America shtick won't work in the long run for your stupid party.ACORN was always just a white angst thing about poor black votes. And then this whole health care opposition boils down to the tried-and-true rightwing bogeyman "welfare queen" troope in which whitey taxpayer doles out subsidies to overbreeding inner-city teen moms and shooting viuctims.Same old shit.
I hate when I can't tell if a comment is a sarcatic parody, or if the poster is delusional enough that they'reserious.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 18, 2009 02:32 PM (rf03a)

90 This is very confusing. Wasn't the guy who played Chewbacca white? So now the society of perpetual grievance mongers is ginning up horseshit like this to hide the fact of how wrong they were about ACORN? The logic trees are truly barren in Mr. Johnson's neighborhood.

Posted by: U.S.S. Yorktown at September 18, 2009 02:32 PM (5RlWq)

91 Where aw the leezard go? I'm so rone-ry!

Posted by: Chuck Jong Il at September 18, 2009 02:33 PM (J7/Ud)

92 But is pointing out Meanshells' booty racist as well?

Posted by: eddiebear at September 18, 2009 02:33 PM (wnU1W)

93 He said WHAT?!?

Posted by: Ernie Anastos at September 18, 2009 02:33 PM (yP5sH)

94 Like I think anyone on these goofy tubes is real.
Please.

Posted by: me at September 18, 2009 02:34 PM (t/GDA)

95 The logic trees are truly barren in Mr. Johnson's neighborhood.

INSENSITIVE AGAINST PEOPLE OF COLOR WHO ARE INFERTILE, you sexist raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacist.

Posted by: Filly at September 18, 2009 02:34 PM (lsiux)

96 This Charles bastard is a worthless f***ing traitor, as is proved by this Leftist-stylefalse-flag hit job. Can't we just declare him the Leftist scum that he is, excommunicate him once and for all, and be done? I am sick to death of hearing about the ravings of that psycho. He, and all those who still follow him, should be deemed Liberal and cut off from us - shunned and cast into the outer darkness where they belong. And good riddance to bad rubbish.

Posted by: Reactionary at September 18, 2009 02:34 PM (P+HSn)

97 Kilgore got his pat on the head from Chuckles and that's all he wanted, he lives for his approval. C'mon over here and pull that shit Kilgore, you fucking coward.

And i agree with an earlier commentor, if Chuckles wants to play these kinds of games, everyone should keep an eye open for when the Little Green Dipshit opens registration and do the same to him and his cult.

Posted by: koopy at September 18, 2009 02:35 PM (OiqCK)

98 Ace,

I've been reading the blog for about six months now. I was a defector from LGF when I got sick of CJ's many idiosyncracies and his tendency to flip out at any segment of conservatism that he didn't agree with. Plus, I felt like there were stories I was missing simply because of his often single-minded focus.

With that said, I think you need to stop the CJ attacks. This action by Kilgore Trout was silly and doesn't prove anything. (Obviously, if there were clear evidence of racism, that should be condemned.) But by responding to it, you're perpetuating the infighting.

I am a "big tent" conservative. Please don't misunderstand...I don't mean that as cover for my liberalism like Specter or cover for big spending like many Congresscritters. (In fact, that absolutely infuriates me, because I think the elites in Congress occupy - for the most part - the leftmost fringe of the Republican party, and they use the "big tent" argument to ignore the will of the vast majority of the American people.) I mean it in the sense that at the rank-and-file level, we benefit from having many voices, even if some of them are often wrong.

I'll admit that given my defection from LGF, there was a certain "look how right I was" satisfaction at the string of posts exposing CJ's tepidness on Van Jones, etc. But we need to stop fighting amongst ourselves. It just gives our enemies ammunition.

Posted by: MikeJ at September 18, 2009 02:36 PM (oN8K4)

99 I mean, we could talk about, for instance, how some folks gripe about others throwing "labels" around
Homosaywhat?
I suppose you're right, we could talk about that, but since no one but you is and it's kind of unintelligble even if you insert paragraph breaks, I'm just going to have to label you a tard.

Posted by: Entropy at September 18, 2009 02:36 PM (IsLT6)

100 Original Roy: At some point in the beginning of every cult movement, they start implementing loyalty tests. It's a good way to separate the chosen from the rabble.

Posted by: mr.frakypants at September 18, 2009 02:36 PM (PonvG)

101 Ah, I just love the smell of racism in the morning. Or is it my wookie armpits?

Posted by: John at September 18, 2009 02:36 PM (vhLeK)

102 A NOTE of CAUTION:
Old Lizards are very subject to virus and malware uploads when viewing LGF. His latest seems to be attacking Adobe Flash on this site. errors 1010 and 2122 out the wazoo!

Posted by: Rewrite! at September 18, 2009 02:36 PM (UaSIe)

103 Charles who, now?

Posted by: Farmer Joe at September 18, 2009 02:37 PM (z4es9)

104 Sorry, it should have been :
Where aw the reezard go? I'm so rone-ry!

There, much better now!

Posted by: Chuck Jong Il at September 18, 2009 02:37 PM (J7/Ud)

105 Charles!
Welcome to theNuminous Party!
Hearts and Kisses,
Chris Buckley

Posted by: TakeFive at September 18, 2009 02:37 PM (/3pxq)

106 64
Wow, between Andy Sullivan and Charles Johnson, we now have a pretty
solid bar to measure when someone has gone completely batsh*t crazy.


Posted by: shibumi at September 18, 2009 02:24 PM (OKZrE)

True.Killgore Trout used the N word in the comments several times at HotAir,something Johnson has refused to condemn.

Posted by: Chris Crocker at September 18, 2009 02:37 PM (qTCkm)

107 Wow. I guess nationalized banks is the way to go, right? Too bad we don't have a federal bank to control money supply, the country would be out of this mess, for sure... Thanks for being so informative!
Posted by: Ann NY at September 18, 2009 02:30 PM (n82VB) - If you're saying you think we do have a federal bank controlling our money supply, you are proving my point. I'm talking about control of our money being under the control of congress (the people, at least when the people are paying attention) overseen by the treasury and backed by gold and silver.

Posted by: teej at September 18, 2009 02:37 PM (QdUKm)

108 Reactionary: How exactly did you choose your nick?

Posted by: mr.frakypants at September 18, 2009 02:37 PM (PonvG)

109 Last time I went to LGF I got really bad diarrhea. Almost cost me my life.
Don't go to LGF. Just don't do it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 18, 2009 02:37 PM (P33XN)

110 MikeJ:
This action by Kilgore Trout was silly and doesn't prove anything.

Sure it does. It proves "Kilgore Trout" is a racist, lying POS.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 18, 2009 02:38 PM (ZJ/un)

111 #102 And i agree with an earlier commentor, if Chuckles wants to play these kinds of games, everyone should keep an eye open for when the Little Green Dipshit opens registration and do the same to him and his cult.
Wouldn't work, because either CJ is at his site, except when he's sleeping, or he has one of his sycophant lizard buddies patrolling the threads marking and BANNING anybody not conforming to the party line.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at September 18, 2009 02:38 PM (9hSKh)

112 I hope "Surrogate" with Willis is good.
Sounds like real life caught up to it already.

Posted by: me at September 18, 2009 02:38 PM (t/GDA)

113 Charles Johnson has jumped the shark. Why give him attention?

Posted by: David C at September 18, 2009 02:38 PM (Ckb6d)

114 Back when I posted used to post at LGF Charles railed against this stuff all the time. Imagine his hysteria if hotair tried this garbage with him.

Posted by: zmdavid at September 18, 2009 02:39 PM (rjZtY)

115 "But we need to stop fighting amongst ourselves."

MikeJ, who is this group that you think both Charles and I belong to?

The issue isn't that Charles or Andrew Sullivan "went liberal," it's that they went batshit crazy. You don't invite a lunatic into your tent anymore than a rabid animal.

Posted by: Jason at September 18, 2009 02:39 PM (Nljcu)

116 I see racists.

Posted by: Charles Johnson at September 18, 2009 02:39 PM (ur6Ar)

117 WHAT The F#ck?!

So his minion goes over there..starts spamming threads and making trouble.
It doesn't get cleaned up fast enough for Chuckles and he concludes RAAAAAACIST!11ty!!!

jeez what a joke.

Posted by: vai2112 at September 18, 2009 02:40 PM (pkOAj)

118 If anyone can stand it, let us know when he's looking for new 'hatchlings'. I like the idea of him playing whack-a-mole withbanning new accounts that are posting comments he probably won't tolerate. Just to pi$$ him off.
I've heard it said he actually bans IP's from any connection. Like you can't even load and read the page anymore if you're banned.
That is kind of like shooting flies with buckshot. Just keep spoofing dynamic ISP numbers and thedumbass will ban half the eastern seaboard.

Posted by: Entropy at September 18, 2009 02:40 PM (IsLT6)

119 Kilgore Trout, I served with a Wookie, I knew Chewbacca the Wookie, Chewbacca was a friend of mine. Kilgore, you don't know jack about Wookies.

Punk.

Posted by: Han Solo at September 18, 2009 02:40 PM (v3ALL)

120 The N-word... do you mean Numinous?

Posted by: John at September 18, 2009 02:40 PM (vhLeK)

121 Feh. Add me to the list of selfbanned from LGF.
Not going to bad-mouth the man, there were too many good times reading the site,up til a few months ago. I only commented occasionally,but the reads were always interesting.
Too sharp a left-ward swing for me, recently. Inadvertantly or not, it'll be an echo-chamber at the rate things are going.
So do hobos come in grades,or are they indiscriminate?

Posted by: irongrampa at September 18, 2009 02:40 PM (ud5dN)

122 He's just pissed that HotAir hasn't delinked him yet

Posted by: Amused Observer at September 18, 2009 02:41 PM (EbqoB)

123 That is kind of like shooting flies with buckshot. Just keep spoofing dynamic ISP numbers and thedumbass will ban half the eastern seaboard.
By which I mean the other half of the eastern seaboard. The ones not currently banned already.

Posted by: Entropy at September 18, 2009 02:41 PM (IsLT6)

124 This is my <a
href="http://tinyurl.com/msmosj">favorite</a>
take on Charles.

Posted by: chuck at September 18, 2009 02:42 PM (miHhn)

125 I can't believe all those racists would debase themselves by rubbing shoulders with Michelle Malkin, who is of Filipinoheritage.
Malkin is a real conservative,unlike so many in the media, and she is so cute.

Posted by: maddogg at September 18, 2009 02:42 PM (OlN4e)

126 CJ is a dick, Kilgore Trout has a name that is majorly ghey, and LGF is run by anit-Wookie bigots. The First Klingon, M'Chelle, never comments there due to its obviously anti-Wookie Bias.

Posted by: enter clarence bodicker, sandman at September 18, 2009 02:42 PM (zxaA2)

127 103
I couldn't agree with you more.

I'm personally strongly disappointed with what's happened over there in the last year or so, but there are far better targets to aim at than LGF.

Posted by: looking closely at September 18, 2009 02:42 PM (6Q9g2)

128 Those of you not getting the purpose of the deployment of Michelle as the face of Obamacare, you're looking at it right here.


Wow, that's low, isn't it? (The liberals using Madam Use-Yer-Food-Stamps-For-$20-Weeds in this fashion, not this comment.)

Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 18, 2009 02:42 PM (NtiET)

129 @ 90

My grandfather always said - if you kick shit, your foot starts to stink. Sort of in the same vein....

Posted by: fishy comments at September 18, 2009 02:43 PM (72vLY)

130 Too bad decorum precludes a flaming skull-f*%ing pic. Perfect thread for it.
Hmmm Ace, how about a flaming pic of the ponytailed, comic book store owner character from the Simpsons?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 18, 2009 02:43 PM (cniXs)

131 But we need to stop fighting amongst ourselves.

That assumes that C "Truther" J is one of us. I don't think he is, any more than I think Andi "Trigger" Sullivan is. They have put themselves squarely in the opposing camp.

Posted by: Original Roy at September 18, 2009 02:43 PM (jV0wG)

132 anytime i try to open the link from randomguy, firefox crashes. happening to anyone else?

Posted by: sow'nreap at September 18, 2009 02:43 PM (nYF3I)

133 118 Charles Johnson has jumped the shark. Why give him attention?Posted by: David C at September 18, 2009 02:38 PM (Ckb6d)
You have a valid point of course. A friend of mine once said to me about Michael Moore, who I was baiting him with because said friend is a bit of a lefty...
"MM is not an artist... he is a banker and you all are buying from him by giving the c*nt your attention"
Which is true of course, and shut me up! However, MM never represented himself as any part of the conservative ideology. CJ deserves to be booted out of any "big conservative tent", and soundly. On his ass.

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 02:44 PM (B5RxW)

134 Posted by: MikeJ at September 18, 2009 02:36 PM (oN8K4)


Oh great, now we have Concerned Ex-Lizard to add to the list.

Posted by: Blazer at September 18, 2009 02:44 PM (+FzLa)

135 The leftist Race Pimps aren't helping Obama, they are hurting Obama. Independents, Republicans and a growing number of Democrats disagree with Obama and the Race Pimps call them racist because all thevoices inthe Race Pimps heads are Racist.
You don't make any friends when you callsomeone racist, in factit pretty much seals the deal on permanent animosity.

Posted by: robtr at September 18, 2009 02:44 PM (H60q6)

136 Enough. As recently as a day or two ago, I defended Charles Johnson. No more. (NB: I just visited and got the "error with this website" when I came back here.)
LGF is kind of like McCain, I guess. I salute them for their service in the past, but want nothing to do with them henceforth.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 18, 2009 02:44 PM (eNxMU)

137 just getting around to politics today.
on my fb page someone said that Beck was having Obama on his show on Monday. Being a skeptic I of course figured that was bs-there's no link on his page. He said he said it on the radio show yesterday.
this has to be a joke, right??
O won't even go on Wallace's Sunday show

Posted by: laceyunderalls at September 18, 2009 02:45 PM (pLTLS)

138 "Posted by: teej at September 18, 2009 02:37 PM (QdUKm)"

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. By what definition is the Federal Reserve a private bank?

Posted by: Ann NY at September 18, 2009 02:45 PM (n82VB)

139 anyone who would do that would also do stuff like show up at the tea parties trying to incite trouble with provocative signs.
this is really reprehensible. such dishonesty.

Posted by: nyc redneck at September 18, 2009 02:45 PM (LbUES)

140 Seriously, this is frikken insane.

INSANE!

Who are we, kindergartners? KT just HAD to go to HA in an attempt to smear them for WHAT? To make himself FEEL better?

Posted by: Mortis at September 18, 2009 02:45 PM (hA5JK)

141 My point has been proven. You all enjoy your little circle. Nam Grunt, shibumi, momma, runningrn, you all take care. I'll miss ya.

Posted by: teej at September 18, 2009 02:46 PM (QdUKm)

142 Kilgore Trout is a little prick. I got banned from LGF for saying Kilgore Trout was a little prick. And if I have not been clear enough...Kilgore Trout is a little prick. Oh being a little prick is one of his better qualities.

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 18, 2009 02:47 PM (tnGYI)

143 Who cares what Chuck thinks? He is a goomba and he sends his myrmidons over to a classy site like Hot Air to do his evil bidding. Charlie is an evil prick. Can we call him a facist? Because you know with that ban stick and his inability to face differeing viewpoints it seems like a natural identification.

Posted by: Steve In Tulsa at September 18, 2009 02:47 PM (oHufc)

144 137 anytime i try to open the link from randomguy, firefox crashes. happening to anyone else?
Posted by: sow'nreap at September 18, 2009 02:43 PM (nYF3I)
Could be your PDF reader. The document was generated from the great freeware PDFCreator print driver, and just printed from the browser. Nothing fancy.
I use foxit reader, and it doesn't crash. Try googling the Sumatra PDf viewer for windows, it's free. and for mac, too.

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 02:47 PM (B5RxW)

145 Was this the "Seixton" guy who seemed to have a very inflated notion of himself?

Posted by: Rodney at September 18, 2009 02:47 PM (h+oUx)

146 So, using his own terminology, CJ was trying to "flounce" himself from HA? I figure that he has 100 people/day doing it to him, he may as well try it on someone else's site. Now, will he make fun of himself for flouncing himself while...God, my head hurts!

And #123, how would one spoof an IP? Got a link? Any suggestions?

Posted by: Nsvin R Johnson says listen to Me First and the Gimme Gimmes at September 18, 2009 02:48 PM (J7/Ud)

147 Charles thinks we should call out unsavory elements on the right. He is #1 on the list. Watch Bill Whittle's Afterburner about the American vs. French Revolutions. Which one describes LGF better? He'd be power mad Guillotining everyone in a heartbeat if he could.

Posted by: zmdavid at September 18, 2009 02:48 PM (rjZtY)

148 What's funny is Charles will never get the love he craves. Rightly or wrongly, LGF is too well established as an anti-Muslimconservative hatesite after years of attacks by the Left.
I'm waiting for something really dramatic as he appeals for acceptance into the HuffPo set.

Posted by: TakeFive at September 18, 2009 02:49 PM (/3pxq)

149 My considered opinion is that Charles Johnson has been psychologically traumatized ever since learning that canned Potted Meat Product contains bull's penis.

It took him weeks to clear out the giant pile of rusty empty Potted Meat Product cans in his backyard.

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 18, 2009 02:49 PM (QECjC)

150 94 -- I think he/she/it was serious. Really? Really? Because I'm not exactly 100% white, and I don't see it this way. In fact, from what my experience has told me a lot of "liberals" are the biggest, racist crackers around -- the hooded guys have nothing on them.

But please, enlighten me on how the Republican party is the only one following a racist agenda.

Posted by: unknown jane at September 18, 2009 02:49 PM (5/yRG)

151 I did ask Ed on twitter if he was going to remove LGF from HA's blogroll..

It's under discussion was my reply.

Posted by: Dave C at September 18, 2009 02:49 PM (La0Tt)

152 148, yup I would call him a "facist" he obviously discriminates based on how you face looks :-P
It's spelled Fascist

Posted by: Arthur king of the Britons at September 18, 2009 02:50 PM (gTZyc)

153 WAsn't there an incident a couple of years ago where someone used a comment from a poster to "prove" that Charles was a racist? If I remember correctly, Charles railed against those types of tactics.

Posted by: Ann NY at September 18, 2009 02:50 PM (n82VB)

154 113 Reactionary: How exactly did you choose your nick?
Well, the definition is "opposed to progressive social or political change." That's me. And regardless ofthetrue definition,the common context I have heard it used in is to describe a person who wants to turn back the clock, especially in terms of reversing social justice/socialist bullshit. It's usually thrown at anti-social curmudgeonly types who would love to see hippies lined up against a wall and, well, you know, andespecially anti-communists. Again - I sympathize.
Frankly I goodole fashioned, 19th centuryprotestant monarch with a limited legislature to deal with legalminuteawould suit me fine.

Posted by: Reactionary at September 18, 2009 02:50 PM (P+HSn)

155 Um, Teej,
The last thing you want is the money supply to become something political, which is exactly what would happen if it were done under the auspices of Congress and the Treasury. You want Maxine freaking Waters or Pete Stark voting on interest rates? Seriously?

You talk about getting educated on this issue but it's clear you don't know the first thing about macro economics.

Posted by: I have a Jalen Rose jersey at September 18, 2009 02:50 PM (4jZ56)

156 This is fuckin hilarious.
I have not laughed this hard in a while.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at September 18, 2009 02:50 PM (3L9po)

157 I'm waiting for something really dramatic as he appeals for acceptance into the HuffPo set.

Posted by: TakeFive at September 18, 2009 02:49 PM (/3pxq)

He is already sucking up to the Kos crowd

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 18, 2009 02:50 PM (tnGYI)

158 He's just pissed that HotAir hasn't delinked him yet



He knows it's coming, thats why he chose to fire the first shot across the bow. To all those who say we shouldn't give Chuckles the satisfaction I disagree. He should finally be kicked once and for all the conservative radar and every right leaning blog should de-link him. His condoning of this activity makes him a flaming bigot and a racist by default.

Posted by: Blazer at September 18, 2009 02:51 PM (+FzLa)

159 I'll have you know that I've been at the forefront of the battle for equal rights for Wookies. Have you seen those neck shackles they are forced to wear. They're not even fashionable for crying out loud. And haircuts? Has anyone ever thought to give Wookies haircuts. They look like fictional creatures for craps sake.

I have a dream! I dream that all Wookies will one day be able to co-pilot starships and be able to kill Imperial Storm Troopers. (No light sabers though. I draw the line at light sabers.) But everything else! Full equality. Now.

And reparations. Mustn't forget the reparations.

Free the Wookies!

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 18, 2009 02:51 PM (/+GDy)

160 123 Entropy
It would be sweet justice for someone (savvy enough) to get proof of Chas uploading malware. There are even laws against it...

Posted by: Rewrite! at September 18, 2009 02:51 PM (UaSIe)

161 Dennis the Peasant has had CJ's number for a long time:
I've never spent much time reading Little Green Footballs,
soover the past several years Charles has evidently morphed from
wild-eyed anti-Muslim bigot to fearless defender of Islam. As far as I
know, Charles has never explained this ratherstrange transformation.
Of course, it could begenuine. It could also simply be another way to
pick fights and draw attention to himself. It is, after all, worth
noting that Johnson can't write his post without attempting to engage
at least some of his enemies (in this case Geller and Spencer).
Charles Johnson didn't lose his influence when he joined PJM, as
some have suggested. He lost his influence when normal, rational people
started reading his blog. They saw what he was, what he was about, and
they left forever... Leaving Charles with a large, unsavory crew
ofhaters and a few recurring paranoid fantasies.Once it dawned on
Charles that (a) PJM wasn't going to make money,and (b) anti-Muslim
hysteria wasn't going to last forever, he starting casting about for a
new way to recapture his influence.It appears he's settled on the
Andrew Sullivan grovelling former apostate model.
It won't work.
Of course, DtP has some lingering animosity towards CJ along with Roger Simon for how they screwed him when they were putting together PJM, but that doesn't make his observations any less spot-on.

Posted by: Alex at September 18, 2009 02:52 PM (nqknn)

162 I posted there some time ago(under another handle)for maybe 5 months, but drifted away because the place seemed to begrowing increasingly cliquish and strange. From what I've been reading all over the net the last couple of weeks, LGF has turned into an environment that only a Dante could contemplate with equanimity (to steal from P.G. Wodehouse).
Now we have one of the Inner Circle (or Ninth Circle, perhaps) , the inevitable Mr. Trout ,"seagulling" Hot Air. (A seagull, of course, is someone who flies in, craps all overa blog, and then flies home.)
From what I've been reading on other blogs, this sort of thing is becoming routine, as the Blog Master and his flying monkeys become increasingly aggressive toward conservative blogs. One blog was reported to its web Host as a Hate Site by a Johnson handmaidenfor daring to criticize Mr. Johnson.

Posted by: Minnie Rodent at September 18, 2009 02:52 PM (2Y+xz)

163 And yet Hot Air still links to LGF!

Posted by: JohnJ at September 18, 2009 02:52 PM (ls6NY)

164 This isn't the first time that LGF trolls have pulled this crap. HoosierHoops did the same thing in April, when he posted the "n" word here, using Afrocity as a sockpuppet to make it look like she did it. And you know what the crazy bicyclist said? He asked what it was about this blog that would attract such trolls. He didn't ask why LGF was exporting them.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at September 18, 2009 02:52 PM (NLX11)

165 He's just pissed that HotAir hasn't delinked him yet

I'll LOL if HotAir just moves him over to "Left Channels"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 18, 2009 02:52 PM (btril)

166 #27 The whole Republican ideology now caters to white angst. It is
racialized more than ever before. You're stupid if you don't see it.

Taking this statement seriously... to some extent it is an observation of what is happening. It embeds some implicit assumptions that are not true, but on the whole recognizes that something has changed.

What has changed regarding race and racism in this country?

The habit of calling anyone who disagrees with a liberal-left agenda a racist is old. It's sort of on steroids at the moment so that any political disagreement with the wonderful and obviously, clearly, important and fool proof and morally necessary health care changes are dismissed with charges of racism.

Granted, Obama set the stage for this himself all of those times that he warned about how his opponents would oppose him because of his race. It would be stupid not to see that the tenor of discussions about race in this country has changed, but it is also stupid not to see the ways that Obama contributed by heading off criticism at the pass... way way back during the campaign when he assured people that he'd be opposed by racists... by people uncomfortable with the color of his skin or worried that he didn't look like the guys on the money.

Those who supported him and do now, should at least remember the "money" remark. It was followed by anger that Obama's opponents were being called racist for things they hadn't even done. Obama's pre-emptive strike doctrine. And the anger was portrayed as proof... not that people don't like being lied about, but of guilty consciences.

Obama seemed to promise the end of racial strife, the end of distrust, and the end of the claim that everyone was a racist. We'd proved otherwise when we elected him. And then we found out it wasn't true. Electing Obama meant nothing at all.

Something else happened somewhat recently as well. The definition of racism got changed from describing ideas and feelings and expressions of superiority on the basis of race, racial stereotypes and prejudices and racial discrimination to a new *improved* definition of oppressed and oppressor class and inherent privilege that had nothing to do with attitudes or actions but relied on one single metric only... What color are you? Any member of an oppressor *class*, of an Historic oppressor *race*, was a racist. A member of an Historic oppressed class or race, by definition, could not be racist. Period. It mattered not at all if the member of that oppressed class hated everyone in every other class of people, if he or she was prejudiced or discriminated against people unlike him or herself. By definition... not a racist.

Object to this new definition and get accused of not caring about what black people have been through. Get accused of being hateful.

A constant serving of this most certainly *is* going to radicalize people.

The guy who posted in #27 pointed out something real. He just seemed to utterly miss what is driving it.

People are angry at not being allowed to put racism behind us. They are angry about getting called a racist for protesting obscene government growth and spending. And a whole lot of people have decided that, since they can't avoid it... they don't care. And they're willing to rub liberals noses in it.

It's reactive. We could talk about whether or not it's useful. But the basis, the *active* that is prompting the *reactive* is coming from the left, from liberals, from Obama himself, and from departments of Black or Women's Studies.

Posted by: Synova at September 18, 2009 02:54 PM (NTu5Z)

167 Michelle is not a wookie or a klingon. She's my private dancer.

Posted by: President Barack Obama at September 18, 2009 02:54 PM (zzs8x)

168 there is something so wrong with going around planting fake false information trying to get someone in trouble.
think of how low down and devious a person like that is.

Posted by: nyc redneck at September 18, 2009 02:56 PM (LbUES)

169 I think CJ has taken kilgore's trout one too many times.

Posted by: blwrk at September 18, 2009 02:56 PM (HSJkR)

170 Sorta on the topic of HotAir, crazies, shifting alliances, and people who have crossed Ace's radar in the past...
The Norwegian blogger Seixon (with topsecretk9) first brought Larry Johnson to our attention, and not in a good way. But now Seixon is now spinning for Van Jones on the HotAir comments mentioned here.
Interesting how alliances shift.
THEN: Seixon doesn't put up with Rove-indictment false stories; Larry Johnson nuts
NOW: Larry Johnson (mostly) a voice of loyal opposition; Seixon sides with nuts

Posted by: David Ross at September 18, 2009 02:57 PM (GwV+j)

171 I'm beginning to think these sorts of puerile stunts areinitation rites. Prerequisites forCharles to be ableto cross over to the dark side / nutroots.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at September 18, 2009 02:57 PM (b68Df)

172 MikeJ, only BOLD-TYPE WEATHER REPORTS CAN HEAL US
IT'S RAINING SOMEWHERE IN THE FOUR CORNERS, ...REMINDS ME OF A DRUNKEN BINGE IN THE LIZARD LOUNGE ON THE USS FRIG'ATE KENNEDY

Posted by: Rewrite! at September 18, 2009 02:57 PM (UaSIe)

173 I see fascists!

Posted by: Charles Johnson at September 18, 2009 02:57 PM (ur6Ar)

174 I'll admit that given my defection from LGF, there was a certain "look how right I was" satisfaction at the string of posts exposing CJ's tepidness on Van Jones, etc. But we need to stop fighting amongst ourselves. It just gives our enemies ammunition.
LGF is no longeron "our side"; it's not fighting amongst ourselves.
That said, I agree that going after LGF and CJ just to be vindictive isn't terribly useful or interesting. However, when they (or anyone else)pull reprehensible, dishonest tactics like this it should be called out.
Note that CJ isn't condemning the tactic pulled by the racist sychophant Kilgore Trout; only washing his hands of it by insisting that he didn't order his cult minion to do it.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 18, 2009 02:57 PM (rf03a)

175 Wasn't there a movie about this? Oh, yeah. The Boys In The Banned.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 18, 2009 02:57 PM (IRbsq)

176 I was on HotAir last night when KT dropped in. Every post of his was peppered withthe N word. Get it? That's how he proves HotAir posters are racist. He comes over at 1:30 a.m. andspews racism, then accuses others of racism because the moderators (who presumably are sleeping) don't act quickly enough to delete his comments.
Something really, really foul has happened to the losers over at the LGF insane asylum, and now its not even staying contained toits own site.

Posted by: Cicero at September 18, 2009 02:58 PM (QKKT0)

177 He's just pissed that HotAir hasn't delinked him yetI'll LOL if HotAir just moves him over to "Left Channels"

Ha. That would be awesome.

Posted by: Amused Observer at September 18, 2009 02:58 PM (EbqoB)

178 Funny but I seem to remember Bush portrayed as a chimp and a dumb ape by the left and nobody having any problem with it. When I called her a Wookie or a Klingon in the past it's because I saw her as very large and angry. Didn't see the racial aspect of it.

Posted by: Blazer at September 18, 2009 02:58 PM (+FzLa)

179 Note that CJ isn't condemning the tactic pulled by the racist sychophant Kilgore Trout; only washing his hands of it by insisting that he didn't order his cult minion to do it.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 18, 2009 02:57 PM (rf03a)
Hand wringers take note: This is the take away, here folks.

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 02:59 PM (B5RxW)

180 When I remember how much Charles would piss and moan about Mobys, and everybody at LGF would say how much it shows about the weakness of the people doing the Moby-ing.....
Good heavens, the man is not only silly, he has no testicles. One of his locals admits to being a Moby, and Charles doesn't ban him, but does ban many others for disagreeing with him? What an effetefreak.
Hi, Charles!

Posted by: HiHo at September 18, 2009 02:59 PM (5V/kc)

181 As my new BFF Andrew Sullivan says, I'm gobsmacked by how vile you all are.

Posted by: Charles Johnson at September 18, 2009 02:59 PM (ur6Ar)

182 I'll have to super-size my next shark order. This guy is jumping them like he was Evil Knevil.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 18, 2009 03:00 PM (64AED)

183 Slow Friday?

I think he does this so he can get Ace and everyone on here to talk about him. He has always struck me as the type that needs a lot of attention. Maybe he didn't get any hugs as a child.

Come here CJ (cuz I know you are reading this) I'll give you a hug.

Posted by: Tinkerbella at September 18, 2009 03:00 PM (gVMEW)

184 Crusty @ 174
Thats pretty damn funny.

Posted by: maddogg at September 18, 2009 03:00 PM (OlN4e)

185 Expected. Hotair is starting to gain influence, and it must be stopped, by means good and bad. Standard.
You know, let me lay a marker right now. If tricks like this cause the conservative/classic liberalcause tosuffer some great defeat--basically by creating a "Reichstag incident"--don't think that folks are just going to roll over and say "oh well, guess we have got to give up now." It's not going to happen, nor will the methods usedbe forgot. Fair warning.

Posted by: Horatius at September 18, 2009 03:00 PM (z/+Gw)

186 He has to send mobys about. There's no one left at his blog.

Posted by: wHodat at September 18, 2009 03:01 PM (+sBB4)

187 Charles, we are bringing Hale-Bopp in for an unscheduled pass.

We are ready to pick you and Sharmuta up now.

Posted by: Do and Ti at September 18, 2009 03:03 PM (0aQsc)

188 I'll have to super-size my next shark order. This guy is jumping them like he was Evil Knevil.


Perhaps Slu can put his photoshop-fu to great use here. Charles Johnson on a ten-speed jumping a shark with his pony-tail flapping in the wind would be awesome.

Posted by: Blazer at September 18, 2009 03:03 PM (+FzLa)

189 193 BTW, Ace? Can you screenshot or cut--paste this stuff for us please? I'd rather shave my ass with a lawnmower than feed that ponytailed asshole even two clicks worth of traffic. Wouldn't want to boost his ego. Thank you.
Posted by: Crusty at September 18, 2009 03:01 PM (qzgbP)
Crusty, see randomguy's post at #21.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 18, 2009 03:05 PM (yn1QW)

190 Let me be clear, I also have nothing to do with palin steel, poon, honest cloud, john ryan, etc.

Posted by: Charles Johnson at September 18, 2009 03:07 PM (VmtE9)

191 Why do people care about this?

Because it's a betrayal. The right blogosphere covered for LGF many times. They supported him, complimented him, were friends to him.

Now, LGF is accusing everyone it disagrees with of being racist, and banning anyone who questions their ways. they are 100% nonstop Obama defense, and used to be very critical of Obama's corruption.

it's a betrayal from an old friend, and that hurts in a way it doesn't if it comes from KOS. We know Charles is a very smart guy who knows how to rely on evidence, not plant it. We know he knows exactly how stupid and wrong he's being. No arguments, just hatred, comes from LGF. Sarcastic mockery, ridiculous exaggerations, rude and hateful dismissals, posting ACORN releases without scrunity. LGF knows it was relied on by friends to be fair. We didn't mind, hell, we appreciated that LGF was socially more liberal, argued compellingly well for evolution, and exposed racists. Now, it's so unserious about these issues. Why?

I think financially, it's become much harder to be a blogger since the election, and that the pattern of democrats supporting big name blogs has extended to LGF. There's a reason LGF NEVER criticizes Obama. We all know that's very contrary to their classic tendency.

They were bought and it stings.

Posted by: Tamale Ranger at September 18, 2009 03:07 PM (HlHsw)

192 Michelle is not a wookie or a klingon. She's my private dancer.

Only if you want a private dancer who looks like Evander Holyfield without the mustache. If that's your thing, PBO, thank God! you're keeping it private...

Posted by: enter clarence bodicker at September 18, 2009 03:08 PM (zxaA2)

193 I think this is all the proof we need that wearing nut crushing butt hugging spandex bike shorts cuts off blood flow and causes permanent brain damage.

Posted by: bulwrk at September 18, 2009 03:08 PM (HSJkR)

194 xmdavid 153, Sharmuta and others - I think Syrah (who may be banned by now)andJimmah -used to talk about Thomas Sowell's Conflict of Visions a lot. They thought that Obama was bad because his vision is "unconstrained". They applied this to certain aspects of the early Tea Party movement as well.
Charles's ever-twitchier ban finger is showing us that, were it up to him, he wouldn't want these people where he can see them. When he bans people for what they do elsewhere, and (now) excuses his minions going abroad to sabotage other site - he's showing us that he doesn't want these people anywhere.
Charles's vision is unconstrained.

Posted by: David Ross at September 18, 2009 03:09 PM (GwV+j)

195 The claim by CJ stating "I can’t really applaud KT for doing this — I wouldn’t have done it,
and didn’t advise him to do it, by the way, to head off the inevitable
accusations that I was behind this — but his point is absolutely valid." rings hollow.

None of his inner circle over there take a shit without Charles counting the peanuts in it. He's full of it, and he knows it.

Besides, he says he "can't really" applaud Kilgore for being a moby idiot - but then clearly states "the point is absolutely valid", CJ most definitely is standing behind KT's childish escapades.

He's the Little Green Dr. of Douchebaggery, and there's his hypocritical oath.

Posted by: Han Salami at September 18, 2009 03:10 PM (v3ALL)

196 This is a way late reply to Ed Bernstein's claim that the ACORN blowup was about black votes so sorry....

Follow the Bernstein logic to find the real racism: Conservatives attacking ACORN is about suppressing black votes. That means that without ACORN there to help them, these poor black folk couldn't figure out how to register on their own. They needed the white man to come in and teach them how to register and vote? The noble savages of the inner city? Ed sounds like the old imperialists that colonized Africa for the betterment of the black man. Good to see where you stand, friend.

After all registering to vote isn't like taking the bar exam, for g-d sakes, I think people can figure it out on their own. Unless of course they need loans to smuggle underage sex slaves. Then ACORN is irreplaceable.

Posted by: Alex at September 18, 2009 03:10 PM (ETB5s)

197 He's notworth the trouble. He's just trying to provide a birther-like distraction from the APORN scandal.

Posted by: Starboardhelm at September 18, 2009 03:11 PM (SgSfB)

198 Remember that old show "Charles In Charge"?
Well, that's what it is over in Lizardville and if you don't like it, fuck off!

Posted by: Charles' Johnson at September 18, 2009 03:11 PM (lLkKz)

199 CHARLES
It is a badge of honor to be banned from LGF for pointing out the truth.
You sir have become unhinged.

Posted by: gdonovan at September 18, 2009 03:11 PM (pI5I5)

200 It would be sweet justice for someone (savvy enough) to get proof of Chas uploading malware. There are even laws against it...
If he's actually doing that, yes.
You could even possibly get ISP's and AVto blacklist his site. And be well deserved if the man is distributing malware.

Posted by: Entropy at September 18, 2009 03:12 PM (IsLT6)

201 What I find ironic is that every racist I've ever encountered had an evolutionary premise for their ugly thoughts which butts against Jazz boy's other peculiar obsession with right wingers' denial of evolution. How does he juggle all these narratives in his head?

Posted by: Angry Mob Member #76576051 at September 18, 2009 03:12 PM (fkgyi)

202 Tamale Ranger at September 18, 2009 03:07 PM (HlHsw)

That pretty much sums it up.

Posted by: lorien1973 at September 18, 2009 03:15 PM (IhQuA)

203 Here's my opinion:

This drift, or crack-up, or whatever you want to call it, has been going on since whenever the Pajamas Media consortium started up. I heard that CJ was invited to the initial meeting to sign on, but he blew it all off and spent the weekend riding around on his bike.

I think I know what happened. I think he met some real conservatives, probably for the first time in his life, and he thought, "these aren't my people." Being a liberal at heart, he took an immediate dislike to them and the dislike eventually worked his way to the surface, and he feels the need to wash his hands of them.

Good-bye Charles.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 18, 2009 03:16 PM (TnUnj)

204 Wookies? Wookies? Wookies = black people? Huh? I look at Wookies, and I don't think black people. I don't think white people. I think, "Hey, clever special effects!" I guess a racist like Killgore sees untermenschen all over the place. Poor Killgore, his mother dropped him on the head as a child, they say.

He's not prejudiced, though. He hates everybody. Except, maybe, Charles.

Killgore Trout a racist, hate-filled bit of scum. I'm also beginning to think he is a sock-puppet for somebody over at LGF.


Posted by: Rhinestone Suderman at September 18, 2009 03:17 PM (TafJB)

205 He pulled this meaningless prank at the expense of the feelings of black people who read Hot Air.


Evidently his much documented foray into Stormfront washed off on him. "When you stare into the abyss, sometimes the abyss stares back into you.

Hoosier Hoops tried the same shit here awhile back.

Oh yea, did I mention that Charles fucking Johnson is a racist ? Lets Googlebomb that shit.

Posted by: Blazer at September 18, 2009 03:18 PM (+FzLa)

206 67
of course it's wrong to call her a wookie, Michelle Obama is obviously a Klingon.

Posted by: todler at September 18, 2009 02:24 PM (fPOY0)
Thank you! I now must clean the combination of sweet tea and snot off my keyboard.


Posted by: Mandy P. at September 18, 2009 03:19 PM (MK6Kx)

207 @198

That explains: Posted by: Christoph (56Gag)

Posted by: somejoe at September 18, 2009 03:19 PM (yP5sH)

208 This is the space creature that resembles Michelle O

Posted by: Ed Mahmoud at September 18, 2009 03:19 PM (NVdGX)

209 Do it yourself Wookie suit.


Posted by: looking closely at September 18, 2009 03:19 PM (PwGfd)

210 Charles Johnson is a despicable little ass hole who is on the verge of a nervous breakdown.

Posted by: Hugh G. Rection at September 18, 2009 03:19 PM (SINWF)

211 Seriously, can't some of Charles Johnson's friends (if he has any left at this point) do an intervention and cart him off to some nice cozy rest home?Before something really "out there" happens? Before somebodyloses patience andsues his ass off? MaybeI'm too stuffy, but this is gettingway weird.

Posted by: Minnie Rodent at September 18, 2009 03:20 PM (2Y+xz)

212 I'll LOL if HotAir just moves him over to "Left Channels"
Refresh HA.

Posted by: ask, and ye shall- at September 18, 2009 03:21 PM (HJhnj)

213 LOL

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at September 18, 2009 03:23 PM (3L9po)

214 ask, and ye shall- at September 18, 2009 03:21 PM (HJhnj)

Hilarious.

Posted by: lorien1973 at September 18, 2009 03:24 PM (IhQuA)

215 221
Hhahahahahahahhahahahahhahaha

Posted by: Mr. Pink at September 18, 2009 03:24 PM (SqAkN)

216 ROFL

Posted by: Sal at September 18, 2009 03:25 PM (Z73P3)

217 Details on 25 knot Tropical Disturbance "Fred" ( #07L) possibly menacing Florida to South Carolina next week as a 50 mph HELL STORM with occasional heavy rain showers here

Posted by: Ed Mahmoud at September 18, 2009 03:25 PM (NVdGX)

218 Left Channels
BloggingHeads TVEvil Google CurrentLittle Green Footballs

Posted by: Tami at September 18, 2009 03:25 PM (VuLos)

219 Ed Mahmoud at September 18, 2009 03:19 PM (NVdGX)

Remove the teeth and that's my dream woman.

Posted by: lorien1973 at September 18, 2009 03:25 PM (IhQuA)

220 221 I'll LOL if HotAir just moves him over to "Left Channels"
Refresh HA.
ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 03:27 PM (B5RxW)

221 He's also just plain dishonest. I've been a member since 2004, and over the last couple of years I've really cut down on my visits there, and more so with my comments. Yesterday and today, I tested the waters, pointing out how the focus over there now appears to be hyper-criticism of the right wing. I got some snide ridicule from Charles and his sycophants — fair enough. I actually just asked him to delete my account today, because... shoot, I don't know — because I just wanted to kill my association with what his blog has become. I did so, respectfully, though:

"Well, I was kinda trying to terminate my account without being a complete ass about it. Please delete me from the site, Charles. I respect your musicianship, your remarkable facility with our wonderful language, and your previous dedication to promoting — whether you like to acknowledge them as such — conservative principles and impugning radical ones. But, when you garner a paean from the loons at the Daily Kos, it appears to me that you've come full circle back to liberalism. Thanks for all you've done in the past on behalf of our great nation and our friend Israel.

All the best to everyone — see ya on the other side of the Obama administration! :-)" (Yeah, I used the dopey smiley-face.)

After deleting my account and my post, Johnson promptly lied to the minions:

"Again and again, the long flounce-off comment full of insults." (I'm not quite sure what this "flounce-off" crap is — apparently some silly code word about being banned.)

It wouldn't do to admit that some folks disagree with him in a reasonable and civil way, actually showing him respect. That kind of clashes with the "right wing as raving lunatics" paradigm he's constructed in his head and fed to his cult.

BTW, I've been reading your blog on off for years, Ace. Thanks.

Posted by: textus at September 18, 2009 03:27 PM (Czfmc)

222 ACORN was always just a white angst thing about poor black votes. And then this whole health care opposition boils down to the tried-and-true rightwing bogeyman "welfare queen" troope in which whitey taxpayer doles out subsidies to overbreeding inner-city teen moms and shooting viuctims.
Based on a preponderance of evidence, it appears to be true. You know why the military won't allow someone to appear at any type of partisan gathering in uniform? Because people see that and think that person is representative of the whole military. The same thing is true of any organization. Here we have an organization that is corrupt fromtop to bottom and we are not supposed to form an opinion of it? They openly recruit voters for dems in direct defiance of the law. One of the founders embezzled a million dollars from it and was not prosecuted. Now we have numerous offices openly attempting to help people cover up child sex slavery and human trafficking, and not all of them were black, with a media doing what it can to keep the story quiet. What the hell is anyone, black or white, supposed to think? Anyone with even a shred of decency should be appalled.
I fear we have barely brushed the surface of this organization.

Posted by: Bill R. at September 18, 2009 03:28 PM (EhlQq)

223 Hey now, #217, that's just mean.

The Klingon stuff is funny rather than mean because Klingon women are sort of hyper-sexualized Amazons. Which is *silly* but so is fainting over how gorgeous Michelle is. She's not. But she's not ugly either. She's pretty ordinary looking if rather Amazonishly tall.

But hey, I'm a girl. I have to stick up even just a *little* bit for the sisterhood of not-supermodels.

(Granted, every time someone got all misty eyed during the campaign for how handsome and attractive Barack was I sort of threw up a little in my mouth.)

Posted by: Synova at September 18, 2009 03:28 PM (NTu5Z)

224 221
I'll LOL if HotAir just moves him over to "Left Channels"
Refresh HA.

Awesome!

Posted by: baldilocks at September 18, 2009 03:28 PM (fzp/B)

225 Damn you AP and Ed, how dare you move my link to left channels!
I'm telling Michelle about this!

Posted by: Charles' Johnson at September 18, 2009 03:28 PM (lLkKz)

226 "229
221
I'll LOL if HotAir just moves him over to "Left Channels"

Refresh HA.

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US"

LOL Wow, that's a comedy jackpot there.

Posted by: textus at September 18, 2009 03:29 PM (Czfmc)

227 Come here CJ (cuz I know you are reading this) I'll give you a hug.

Posted by: Tinkerbella at September 18, 2009 03:00 PM (gVMEW)
I'm sure Ace's posts have been driving that cocksucker further over the edge than he already is, assuming that's possible.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 18, 2009 03:30 PM (U1nHn)

228 So, let me get this straight: Killgore Trout spams another blog with racist epithets, to prove they're racists---although he's the one posting racist comments!

And Charles doesn't really approve, but he kinda, sorta, goes along with it; he can't really applaud it, but it's "valid"? What? The racism? Spamming another blog?

What a swell buncha lizards, dar!

Posted by: Rhinestone Suderman at September 18, 2009 03:32 PM (TafJB)

229 Heh.

LGF is under "Left Channels" at HA now.

Posted by: Al at September 18, 2009 03:33 PM (VtygY)

230 Ed just posted--rather obliquely--about the n-bomb Mobying perpetrated on Hot Air.

Posted by: baldilocks at September 18, 2009 03:33 PM (fzp/B)

231 LGF is gone from Michelle Malkin's links as well.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at September 18, 2009 03:34 PM (NLX11)

232 Losers Groupthink Funhouse

Posted by: Cicero at September 18, 2009 03:34 PM (QKKT0)

233 #236 I'm sure he's reading it. I think he likes it - there's nothing worse than unrequited hate. He hates. He likes to be hated back. In a pinch, criticism, pity, or any recognition at all will do. That's why I generally think he should be ignored. This moby garbage needs to be called out, however.

Posted by: zmdavid at September 18, 2009 03:35 PM (rjZtY)

234 Kilgore Trout is either a sockpuppet, or one of the most self abasing ass lickers in human history.
Charlescan't ban otherpeople from the internetfor disagreeing with him, so he does this instead.
He "doesn't approve" of this moby activity BUT... Sure buddy. We know.
It's a logical extension of his defamation of other bloggers with white supremacist smears. Wonder what he'll do next.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at September 18, 2009 03:35 PM (w41GQ)

235 did the LFG trolls use the N word?

Posted by: Sal at September 18, 2009 03:35 PM (Z73P3)

236 Actually, it's only arguably racist if you yourself believe that wookies = black people
Well, this is hysterically funny. If Charles Johnson, Ph.D., defender of Science and Evolution, can show me a phylogenetic tree analysis that places "wookiees" next to "African Americans," I'll take this argument seriously. Funny that I never learned about wookiees when I was studying for my Ph.D. (at the University of Chicago, adopted institution of CJ's hero Captain America). Dr. Johnson must've studied at an elite institution.

Posted by: Y-not at September 18, 2009 03:35 PM (sey23)

237 I think financially, it's become much harder to be a blogger since the
election, and that the pattern of democrats supporting big name blogs
has extended to LGF.

That's an interesting and not-implausible premise. It sounds pretty Axelrodian. Pay somebody to support your cause and to strong-arm anyone who opposes it.

Posted by: Original Roy at September 18, 2009 03:36 PM (ejHeB)

238 @221

More sweet tea and snot to clean off my keyboard. That is comedy gold! Good for them.

Posted by: Mandy P. at September 18, 2009 03:38 PM (MK6Kx)

239 But, hey, look at all those swell jeans Charles sells from Amazon.com? And those kindles, aren't they swell? And, really, what would be do without all those uninspired pics of the beach, or bicycle wheel spokes?

If you don't like Charles, if you badmouth LGF, you must be racist! And Killgore Trout will call you a Wookie, which Charles won't applaud, but it will still be valid!

And Charles has some nice lace wigs he wants to sell you.

Posted by: Rhinestone Suderman at September 18, 2009 03:39 PM (TafJB)

240 wtf. LGF has circled the drain faster than any website I've ever read, but goddamn thsi is insane. He's bitched for years about lefties coming to his site and doing this exact same thing.

CJ has clearly lost it. Perhaps he caught dementia from sullivan?

Posted by: cameo at September 18, 2009 03:40 PM (FJiM0)

241 I wonder if Mr. Trout really wants to KillgGore. I don't have much use for the ManBearPig but I sure don't mean him any harm.

Posted by: Javems at September 18, 2009 03:42 PM (hq71Y)

242 But, hey, just because Killgore threw around the N-word doesn't mean he's a bad old racist! And Charles didn't applaud it! He says so, so it must be true! He did not applaud, though he finds it valid. Because nothing's so sincere as some blockhead moby, throwing around bigoted insults.

Posted by: Rhinestone Suderman at September 18, 2009 03:42 PM (TafJB)

243 woah they really did it.
235 "229 221 I'll LOL if HotAir just moves him over to "Left Channels" Refresh HA. ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US" LOL Wow, that's a comedy jackpot there.
Posted by: textus at September 18, 2009 03:29 PM (Czfmc)
And to another point upstairs, right can you imagine how our blacks sisters and brothers felt, I'm sick of the lefts abuse of our humanity, and trying to drive a wedge between us
really sick of it. and i don't know the answer to help repair it.

Posted by: Wilsons ..willow at September 18, 2009 03:45 PM (GkYyh)

244 Wow...what a coincidence....

Charles blasted Dan Riehl last night for racist comments on a controversial post he had written.

Riehl closed the thread and pointed out that most of the NEW traffic and posts were from LGF and other liberal blogs.

Later that night, Kilgore Trout goes over to HA and starts posting racist comments over there to see how they'd respond.

No wonder Charles is trying to cover his ass by saying he didn't push KT to do it.

But it sure says something that he understands why it must be done.

.


Posted by: LurkingPoet at September 18, 2009 03:45 PM (RDr2K)

245 Charles Johnson and LGF have sunk to a new low with Killgore Trout's Racist Adventure. Shame on them. They should be cast out of the intertubes.

Posted by: HarryV at September 18, 2009 03:46 PM (0Qs+O)

246 Hah, Blazer, you've been reading my comments at LGF2.

Posted by: Zimriel at September 18, 2009 03:47 PM (GwV+j)

247 What the hell happened to Charles Johnson? His LGF site went from a place were common sense lived and a real resource for conservatives to a little North Korea where anyone who disagrees with Charles John-Il, The Dear Leader, gets deleted and banned? Now he echos leftist talking points, defends Obama and Acorn and calls any criticism of Obama administration racist. Maybe he should rename it The Daily Little Green Koz.
It's amazing to watch how horribly thin skinned this guy has become, as he conducts inane witch hunts for imaginary Nazis, racists and fascists. Pretty ironic, given his fascist ways towards anyone who questions his dwindling wisdom. Yeah, it's his website, but jeez, man!
By the way, I never got to catch LGF with registration open so I've never registered, and thus can't be one of the honorable people now banned there. I only now drop in every now and then for a laugh and watch the lizardrones lick their master's huge ego and ass. What a joke!

Proud Infidel

Posted by: Proud Infidel at September 18, 2009 03:47 PM (tDLmq)

248 LMAO, hotair takes action!
Still sucks that they kept a link there. I don't object to LGF being an anti-conservative blog (although banning me for pointing it out does suck, a little) but LGF isn't even a good leftist site anymore.

Posted by: Zimriel at September 18, 2009 03:49 PM (GwV+j)

249 204 ...They needed the white man to come in and teach them how to register and vote? The noble savages of the inner city? Ed sounds like the old imperialists that colonized Africa for the betterment of the black man. Good to see where you stand, friend.
I like the sentiment - this Ed character is another Leftist blowhard. B I suggest that the comparison is not entirely apt. Actually, most of the old Imperialists DID do a helluva lot more for the average black African than any Leftists in this country. Not the Belgians, of course, but the rest.

Posted by: Reactionary at September 18, 2009 03:50 PM (P+HSn)

250 Did the LGF the n word?

yes they did but the tea partiers are racist or something right charles KKK Johnson?

Posted by: LordGeoDampierre at September 18, 2009 03:51 PM (3M0Eu)

251 I have the original deleted posts from Kilgore.


I'm replacing the "g"s in the "n" word with "*", but Kilgore spelled out the word.


Ni**er’s n’ wookies iz socialism!Killgore Trout on September 18, 2009 at 1:25 AM

Posted by: Ed Mahmoud at September 18, 2009 03:51 PM (NVdGX)

252 I won't even follow a link to LGF anymore. In fact, after I was banned for my very civil disagreement with dick-in-the-mouth Johnson last night, I removed the blogroll link to LGF from Tizona as well.

Charles is happy, I presume. He gets to be a megalomaniac and have his ass kissed by an army of sycophant lizards. More power to him. His guilt-by-association and innuendo schtick has gotten very old, however, and his circle of friends in the blogosphere grows thinner and thinner, as does his traffic.

Let him rot and enjoy his masturbatory Ejacs programming.

Posted by: Angus Dei at September 18, 2009 03:51 PM (q+Jbb)

253 221,

Van Jones, ACORN, and LGF all in one week.


Posted by: wHodat at September 18, 2009 03:51 PM (+sBB4)

254 CJ has clearly lost it. Perhaps he caught dementia from sullivan?

No, think of him like the character Charly from the book "Flowers for Algernon". Both he and Sullivan had brief periods of lucidity followed by a slide back into their natural leftard states.

Posted by: Nahanni at September 18, 2009 03:51 PM (S4wMM)

255 shouldn't kill the whore'ssnout be wearing his KKK Hood?

Posted by: LordGeoDampierre at September 18, 2009 03:53 PM (3M0Eu)

256 But we need to stop fighting amongst ourselves. It just gives our enemies ammunition.

Posted by: MikeJ at September 18, 2009 02:36 PM (oN8K4)
First off, Charles Johnson isn't one of "us." From what I can glean, he really was a single-issue "conservative." I see no evidence that he's thought things through to the extent of someone like neo-neocon and really ever left his core left-wing political beliefs.

Second, there is no "us." That's a trap. Mark Sanford dipping his wick South of the Border says nothing about Republicans' view of marriage. Some "right wing" blog linking to questionable material or failing to "clean up" their commenters' inappropriate posts says nothing about the conservative movement generally.

I don't like blog wars either (for instance, the Jeff Goldstein/Protein Wisdom versus Pajamas Media thing earlier this year was very irritating, imho, and reflected badly on Jeff to some extent), but I support all of the conservative bloggers who are currently exposing Charles Johnson's wacky behavior. Why? Because he's being elevated... and will continue to be elevated... to some kind of conservative pundit/thought-leader status so he can be a useful tool of the Left. The volume of bloggers who have spoken up recently about CJ and LGF jumping the shark speaks volumes about just how untrue that label is.

Posted by: Y-not at September 18, 2009 03:53 PM (sey23)

257 Chuckles may have a gay crush on Obama, that would explain a lot.


But the whole paranoia thing, I'm more prone to suspect The Fudge Compacted Clown has been tweaking.


I bet his teeth are starting to look really bad.

Posted by: Ed Mahmoud at September 18, 2009 03:54 PM (NVdGX)

258 Posted by: Ed Mahmoud at September 18, 2009 03:51 PM (NVdGX)
See comment #21, for full PDFs of the whole thing.

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 03:54 PM (B5RxW)

259 MY account was locked/closed/ban, just today for the comment:

Wow. Just Wow.
Will the last one out turn the lights off.

Posted by: Digger12291970 at September 18, 2009 03:54 PM (gCaxJ)

260 I don't get it. Wasn't Chewbacca a ginger?

Posted by: S. Weasel at September 18, 2009 03:54 PM (1U1V1)

261 So people suffer from Obama "love/adoration/he can do no wrong symdrome". Peggy Noonan had a mild case but seems to be coming out of it. Most of the decaying liberal media still have it.
Charles Johnson has a bad case and is not reacting well, but is entitled to his opinion. I used to enjoy Andrew Sullivan site (many years ago) until he went crazy on Bush and after 4 years is terribly irrational. I stopped reading his site years ago. LGF may suffer the same fate. It is very hard to police a site and when a wave of trolls come in..takes a wile to get rid on them....so you to judge a site by how quickly they delete and innappropriate comment overnight
is a bogus as an acorn sourced voter registration form.

Posted by: John at September 18, 2009 03:56 PM (6FYZ6)

262 Did anyone on LGF apologise to the AAs that might have read that crap?

Posted by: Wilsons ..willow at September 18, 2009 03:56 PM (GkYyh)

263 256
Hah, Blazer, you've been reading my comments at LGF2.

Posted by: Zimriel at September 18, 2009 03:47 PM (GwV+j)




Yep. I lurk there often. You guys have a wonderful blog. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: Blazer at September 18, 2009 03:56 PM (+FzLa)

264 Remember the LEFT will do ANYTHING to shut you up. Do any of you recognize, "A thousand flowers bloom" ?

Posted by: Dagny at September 18, 2009 03:56 PM (sVBdU)

265 Wait a minute - Kilgore Trout thinks that wookies are monkys?
I''ll rip his legs off and beat him about the head with them!!! That racist turd!!!

Posted by: Chewbacca at September 18, 2009 03:56 PM (hKCYt)

266 Looks like Hot Air moved LGF under their Left Channels column. Funny.

Posted by: Terry at September 18, 2009 03:58 PM (Vui52)

267 188 As my new BFF Andrew Sullivan says, I'm gobsmacked by how vile you all are.
Andy's gobs have smacked your forehead one too many times. You're "gobdrunk".

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 18, 2009 03:58 PM (cniXs)

268 Sad news. Charles Johnson, while enjoying his reflection in a tropical Panamanian lake, waskilled by a wildmob of right wing, fascist, truther, birther, racist, Paulian childen. http://tiny.cc/CsH9h Glenn Beck ordered the hit.

We can only pray (so to speak) that he managed to spawn with his mate Sharmutta before the end, because the loss of genetic material would be too great to bear.

Posted by: Joe at September 18, 2009 03:59 PM (P/q7X)

269 On cue, here is Seixon again at HotAir:
LGF has been added to “Left” channels? What a joke. He’s atheist like AllahPundit, and calls both sides on their BS. It’s sad to see the conservative blogosphere demanding lock-step allegiance, just like the lefty blogs have been doing for years. Taking a page from Obama and throwing him under the bus. Sad.
Seixon on September 18, 2009 at 3:52 PM
What happened to the guy?

Posted by: Zimriel at September 18, 2009 03:59 PM (GwV+j)

270 For myself LGF hit rock bottom when he drew no distinction between a group that believes the president might have been born in a foreign country and one that believes the president and countless others in government arranged the murder of 3,000 Americans as a pretext for war in the Middle East.Prior to that he had just become an insufferable bore with his incessant evolution and Tour de France threads.

Posted by: bulwrk at September 18, 2009 03:59 PM (HSJkR)

271 Oh yeah, the mob were Creationists too. And Pam Geller watched. And R.S. McCain took pictures. Bastards.

Posted by: Joe at September 18, 2009 04:00 PM (P/q7X)

272

Ace I see you have a new play toy to kick around and it's name is Charles.


Posted by: Blazer at September 18, 2009 04:02 PM (+FzLa)

273 The decaying liberal media strategy to make conservative look bad is the following:
1. Find fringe talk radio personalities who say very edgy things... that can be edited to look stupid/racist.
and
2. Find so called conservative bloggers, pundits who still think Obama is wonderful and are unhappy will all their "conservative friends".

Posted by: John at September 18, 2009 04:02 PM (6FYZ6)

274 At least Killgore leaves me alone

Posted by: Some Random Sand Critter at September 18, 2009 04:05 PM (wnU1W)

275 Big Purple Baseballs should be in the "left without brains" category

Posted by: Gerry at September 18, 2009 04:06 PM (vcGVK)

276 "93 Next on LGF: Glenn Beck uses Crest toothpaste; Crest linked to racist extremists.

Don't tell me the Cavity Creeps weren't thinly-veiled American blacks. And all the Crest guys were lily-white."

It's worse than that. Much worse. Think about it: The "cavity creeps" had to be... gay!

Crest is therefore a homophobic brand of toothpaste. A toothpaste for homophobes, in other words. To put a finer point on it, anyone who uses Crest is a homophobe!

/Charred Johnson

Posted by: Angus Dei at September 18, 2009 04:07 PM (q+Jbb)

277 How long before Charles puts "whites only" at the top of his blog and starts riding his ten-speed around with a white hood on taking pictures of the crosses he's burned on peoples lawns ? So sad to see his descent into racism.

Posted by: Blazer at September 18, 2009 04:09 PM (+FzLa)

278
269

MY account was locked/closed/ban, just today for the comment:



Wow. Just Wow.
You have to be kidding. I read that comment, has it been deleted?

Posted by: Tokin42 at September 18, 2009 04:10 PM (ONkRu)

279 LGF: Self-mutilation case study

Posted by: wHodat at September 18, 2009 04:10 PM (+sBB4)

280 Ace,

You misspelled Einzatsgruppen

Posted by: Ranba Ral at September 18, 2009 04:11 PM (atxR0)

281 i wonder how many times cj has given himself a rimjob

Posted by: Luke thighwalker at September 18, 2009 04:11 PM (T855V)

282 Heh.
Nobody with half a brain would consider the "Leaky Green Fungus" of today anything but hard Left.
I know that there are LGF posters who have constructive, entertaining and
thought provoking discussions. But the focus is always on pleasing CJ (a moonbat by any definition) even when he's not there.
In fact, LGF is the poster child for the 9-10-01 mentality that the Libs are desperate for the rest of us to revert to.
As for the decent people who still post there, what can ya' say? They know it's a BS site, but they stick in there and try to educate. Good for them.

I especially miss TFK and Buzzsaw. You're not gonna find dudes like that on every blog..

Posted by: lincolntf at September 18, 2009 04:11 PM (R7wy8)

283
Let’s talk about ME for a while.
Finally, after a few weeks of anticipation, I, Arbalest, the Occasionally Read and Usually Ignored (as proven by a comment here on Ace) was banned from LGF.
Check the Wednesday thread about the Tea Party signs
My post #63 was not appreciated, as per #68 (and the first ding), so I clarified with my post #98. Essentially, I suggested assigning a value / word to the example signs at the 9/12 Tea Party, then do the same to the anti-Bush signs displayed by the Left, as recorded by Zombie, Ringo, and others. Then compare.
At this point I note that, as of a check yesterday, no one had taken me up on this request. Charles (CJ) very likely did not have time, and I understand, but Jimmah, and a few others did have the time, and presumably the inclination. Strangely, I think Sharmuta declined to play. I even suggested, by post, to Jimmah, . . . . . . but no, . . . . . .
1000 posts, 24 hours, no takers. No one touched it. Not a good sign. There are a few more posts of mine like this on recent threads, and they have a common negative ding profile. Log-in and click.
The fun starts up again with my post #273 and ends with #381. Interestingly, my post #311 is deleted. I think it is the first and only one of my posts ever deleted.
Why? No, wait, check Post #324; I’m quoted. Now ask "Why?"
I still think favorably of CJ, though obviously not as much as in 2007-2008. Apparently things really have changed, and the Universe is right: the changes are at LGF.
This banning may have been automated: poster already on The List, too many down-dings, late at night (but the thread started late, and the secondary responses kept coming), . . . a flag appears. Next morning, no time to investigate . . . . this is a strong indicator that a crew, or a larger crew is needed at LGF.
However, I see, and others may read, resistance to answering inconvenient questions, explaining gaping holes in one’s logic, tolerating rational, reasoned counter-arguments. No point in returning to that sort of thing; it serves no purpose, and is destructive to a once-fine, and potentially-fine-in-the-future, blog.
P.S.
Fenway_Nation: I took your question as an attempt at moderation. Thank you. But as you notice from reading the words of the others, they could not be moderated, nor could they even form a competent comment on my posts 63 and 98. This is not the LGF (of 2007-200 I knew.
Spare O’Lake. Thanks for your indirect comments. I considered replying then and there, but I think things would have only been worse. I hope you are ok.
P.P.S
Apologies; I fear I’ve turned a potentially fine flounce into something mundane and boring, Or, was it over the top? I can never tell. Alas, another poster here at Ace was right.
And now, back to your regularly-scheduled thread.

Posted by: Arbalest at September 18, 2009 04:11 PM (niQGf)

284 Amazing how a little problem with sexual identity issues and methamphetamine use can take what was once perhaps the gold standard of anti-idiotarian blogs and drive it completely into the ground, a freak show for the rest of the so called blogosphere to laugh at, all in 5 years.

Posted by: Ed Mahmoud at September 18, 2009 04:14 PM (NVdGX)

285 121
I see racists.


Posted by: Charles Johnson at September 18, 2009 02:39 PM (ur6Ar)
....posting like normal people........they only see blacks and wookies...
....they don't even know they've been banned.

Posted by: TTC at September 18, 2009 04:17 PM (oNUYQ)

286 CJ is nothing more than a narcissistic sadist who entraps and tortures his dwindling followers for his own personal gratification and sense of self worth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q...h?v=qkDc7ddZ-
F0

Posted by: ray at September 18, 2009 04:22 PM (ve72s)

287 Leave my Chuckie alone racists!

Posted by: Kilgore Trouser Trout at September 18, 2009 04:23 PM (Vui52)

288 Gawd I miss Jeff Goldstein. There's nothing I'd love more than to see Chuckie decide to start picking on him.

Posted by: Vari at September 18, 2009 04:23 PM (KWarw)

289 Kilgore Trout. Is that like Fillmore Chicken?

Posted by: andycanuck at September 18, 2009 04:25 PM (IRbsq)

290 They are now promoting mobying the tea-party's in an attempt to smear them by carrying signs with racial epitaphs on them:

PianobuffFri, Sep 18, 2009 1:17:19pm replyquote0downupreport
I
haven't seen KT's comment as it's probably been cleaned up. However, I
do remember a poster in the last few days promoting an experiment to
carry around a pretty ugly sign with the 'n' word at a tea party.
Is this sort of what happened over at HA?




What a disgusting cesspool that place has become.

Posted by: Blazer at September 18, 2009 04:26 PM (+FzLa)

291 Chuckles, that bicycle seat post has rammed itself into your brain. You have zero cred. Come over here and ban me. ooh ooh, it feels so good.

Posted by: RubyTuesday at September 18, 2009 04:26 PM (P3YA1)

292 flounce |flouns| verb [intrans.]

go or move in an exaggeratedly impatient or angry manner.

Charred Johnson evidently has a very low threshold for what he considers exaggerated impatience. Either that, or the word doesn't mean what he thinks it means.

Posted by: Angus Dei at September 18, 2009 04:32 PM (q+Jbb)

293 Chuckie is a suppurating fissure on the wart-raddled 'taint of humanity.

Posted by: CJ's Proctologist at September 18, 2009 04:34 PM (rE2yz)

294 If you're looking to explode the irony meter, consider the fact that racist Killgore Trout is one of the people who gets to delete "offending" comments over there.

Posted by: Killgore Trout's Sock Puppet at September 18, 2009 04:36 PM (1l37M)

295 The Fuhrer speaks:


CharlesFri, Sep 18, 2009 1:23:55pm replyquote
6downupreport



Lots of hatred and vile comments being directed at me in that thread at Hot Air, by the way.

And they've put LGF in their 'Left Channels' section now.

Time to remove the link to Hot Air from LGF.




Aaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha. That'll hurt you more than them Chuckles.

Posted by: Blazer at September 18, 2009 04:39 PM (+FzLa)

296 I haven't logged onto LGF for months, but decided to see what sort of delusional ramblings were going on there followingAce andRSM'srecent eviscerations of CJ. What I found upon opening the page was too damn funny!
His prime skyscraper advertising real estate at page right had 2 identical ad instances for http://www.angerclassonline.com. I guess they are trolling for business in a very appropriate place! :-)

Posted by: Eric at September 18, 2009 04:39 PM (YVkp6)

297 Heh...

65CharlesFri, Sep 18, 2009 1:23:55pm replyquote2downupreport
Lots of hatred and vile comments being directed at me in that thread at Hot Air, by the way.
And they've put LGF in their 'Left Channels' section now.
Time to remove the link to Hot Air from LGF.

Posted by: TeamDub at September 18, 2009 04:40 PM (qwG4I)

298 yeah, I too signed up an account at littlegreenfootballs because I thought it would be a place on the internet for me to vent my ignorant hatred of evil Muslims and people who were different than me. Gosh was I wrong. Good thing I have ace of spades and hot air though.

Posted by: spacejesus at September 18, 2009 04:42 PM (ubqO/)

299 CJ admiited on a thread recently that he's been afan of the SPLC for years. Most of the nutty "fascist" and "neo-Nazi" crap he's been going off on these days is derived directly from the SPLC.

For instance, the anti Robert Stacy McCain stuff on LGF is lifted in its entirety from the SPLC.

Posted by: flenser at September 18, 2009 04:42 PM (Cc7/L)

300
He should change the name of the blog to Liberal Green Fascists.


Oh, did I mention that Charles Johnson is a racist ?

Posted by: Blazer at September 18, 2009 04:45 PM (+FzLa)

301 Cahrsel Jhnonso == Ward Churchill

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 18, 2009 04:46 PM (U1nHn)

302 306
I haven't logged onto LGF for months, but decided to see what sort
of delusional ramblings were going on there followingAce
andRSM'srecent eviscerations of CJ.

I was never registered at LGF so I can't check, but could one of the recently banned or currently registered folks explain what goes on in the "private" threads. What's the point of them? Also, how's that "time out" thing working?

Posted by: Y-not at September 18, 2009 04:46 PM (sey23)

303 Taking down Dan Rather is not a lifetime pass to be as crazy as you want to be.

Posted by: Jim Treacher at September 18, 2009 04:46 PM (cvmgB)

304 308
Are you the same "spacejesus" from Chuckie's site?

Posted by: eddiebear at September 18, 2009 04:49 PM (wnU1W)

305 What the frak is going on over there? CJ is officially off his nut, and his demonic followers are all drinking the Kool-Aid.
LGF officially gets no play.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 18, 2009 04:49 PM (zgZzy)

306 Taking down Dan Rather is not a lifetime pass to be as crazy as you want to be.

Posted by: Jim Treacher at September 18, 2009 04:46 PM (cvmgB)





He should bottle his weapons grade crazy and sell it to the Iranians. Beats selling jeans and dildos on Amazon.

Posted by: Blazer at September 18, 2009 04:50 PM (+FzLa)

307 I still say Charles Johnson looks like Ward Churchill knocked up Janet Reno and Charles is what she shit out 40 weeks later, fully formed, like Jonathan Winters on Mork and Mindy.
WE RIDE!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, atop his Racist Steed, white robes and hood a-flappin' at September 18, 2009 04:50 PM (hgMe7)

308 300
They are now promoting mobying the tea-party's in an attempt to smear them by carrying signs with racial epitaphs on them:

"Epithets".

And I do have to wonder if this is true (that there is infiltration by leftists trying to discredit the Tea-parties by tarring them with racism).


Posted by: looking closely at September 18, 2009 04:51 PM (6Q9g2)

309 I have to ask:

The commenter over on lgf by the moniker realwest says his 79 year old father was walking pass the WTC and ran in to try to save people and never was heard from again. Is that true?

Posted by: DingDingDing! at September 18, 2009 04:51 PM (OOn1v)

310

@306

I just went over there and two things in the comment sections really jumped out.First long timers are all but gone and the ones still there are in full blown ass kissing overdrive,and the crop of new "hatchlings" is comprised of juvenile delinquents with a daddy complex all competing for the grand lizards attention.

Posted by: bulwrk at September 18, 2009 04:53 PM (HSJkR)

311 I am not clicking on Lil' Grotesque Fools for any reason.
Besides, CJ blocks some IPs from even loading his page. I may be on that list too, but I'll never find out, because I'll never go there to check.

Posted by: theCork at September 18, 2009 04:55 PM (zL5Q1)

312 I have an LGF account from a year or so ago; I had never posted but generally agree that it's gone way downhill. Anyway, reading an AOS thread on this the other day, I went and checked out a thread on Rifqa Berry (where CJ was ranting about how great it was that the courts had decided to keep her with her parents, and that the anti-Muslim bigots wanted to grant her wish for emancipation). I found one comment that was mildly critical of CJ's position. I made no comments of my own; I merely logged in and clicked the "recommend" button on that comment. I was banned within 15 minutes. Good times.

Posted by: Bill Walters at September 18, 2009 04:55 PM (/zawP)

313 Bulwrk - That's because everyone over there is afraid of getting banned. Walking on eggshells, my friend.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 18, 2009 04:55 PM (zgZzy)

314 319: I think so. Realwest was/is one of the good guys over there

Posted by: eddiebear at September 18, 2009 04:56 PM (wnU1W)

315 I merely logged in and clicked the "recommend" button on that comment. I was banned within 15 minutes. Good times.
Posted by: Bill Walters at September 18, 2009 04:55 PM (/zawP)
That's about the speed over there.

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 04:56 PM (B5RxW)

316 27
The whole Republican ideology now caters to white angst. It is
racialized more than ever before. You're stupid if you don't see it.


Posted by: Ed Bernstein at September 18, 2009 02:14 PM (A/1+S)
Blah blah, and the whole Democrat ideology is a mix of being red and seeing red.
You'd think the little socialists would have least calmed down with Obama's "reign" as his spokepeon called it.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at September 18, 2009 04:57 PM (7BU4a)

317 LGF is quickly becoming the most annoying blog online.

Posted by: CattusMagnus at September 18, 2009 04:57 PM (1RgQ+)

318 Charles Johnson is a far left kook.

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at September 18, 2009 04:57 PM (qTCkm)

319 HotAir should have moved LFg to the Parody/Cartoon category.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 18, 2009 04:58 PM (MbyMv)

320 Anyone left at LGF is no "good guy"

Posted by: wHodat at September 18, 2009 04:58 PM (+sBB4)

321 Realwest was lying through his teeth and was caught.

FYI.

Posted by: TeamDub at September 18, 2009 04:59 PM (qwG4I)

322 Fair or not, what I heard was an unspoken word in the air: My tactics were certainly questionable, boy!


Posted by: Maureen Dowd at September 18, 2009 04:59 PM (xVKXy)

323 http://tinyurl.com/m28qun

Here is my post at LGF. I assume it won't last long

Posted by: Mortis at September 18, 2009 05:00 PM (hA5JK)

324 Are you the same "spacejesus" from Chuckie's site?
Yes, it's that idiot spacejizz again. He's trolled here before.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at September 18, 2009 05:00 PM (NLX11)

325 308 yeah, I too signed up an account at littlegreenfootballs because I thought it would be a place on the internet for me to vent my ignorant hatred of evil Muslims and people who were different than me. Gosh was I wrong. Good thing I have ace of spades and hot air though.
Posted by: spacejesus at September 18, 2009 04:42 PM (ubqO/)
DidCharles Johnsons sent you here? I notice you post a lot over there.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at September 18, 2009 05:00 PM (H7Rlw)

326 287
How long before Charles puts "whites only" at the top of his blog and
starts riding his ten-speed around with a white hood on taking pictures
of the crosses he's burned on peoples lawns ? So sad to see his descent
into racism.


Posted by: Blazer at September 18, 2009 04:09 PM (+FzLa)

What, you see something wrong with that?

Posted by: Robert Byrd at September 18, 2009 05:00 PM (7BU4a)

327
Ace if you happen to read this, why not place LGF2 on your blogroll to replace the crazier than a shithouse rat Johnsons blog? They are really talented and somehow I feel a kinship with them. They really look up to you.

Posted by: Blazer at September 18, 2009 05:00 PM (+FzLa)

328 If anyone wants a good laugh go look at the Sex
Offender registry and type in the name Charles Johnson. Several of the
douchebags are spitting images of him. According to his logic that
makes him a child rapist.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at September 18, 2009 02:25 PM (SqAkN)
Is he a sex offender?

Posted by: Tinkerbella at September 18, 2009 05:02 PM (gVMEW)

329

The comment at #308 is by one of the new most favored posters over at lgf,who by the way used to get soundly thrashed whenever he would post his drivel there back in the old days

Posted by: bulwrk at September 18, 2009 05:02 PM (HSJkR)

330 319: I think so. Realwest was/is one of the good guys over there
Posted by: eddiebear at September 18, 2009 04:56 PM (wnU1W)

Sorry, but that is a matter of your own personal opinion and does not answer my question. My one contact with him, he attacked me over something bizarre. Then he continued to be an ahole. I gave him a pass because I got the impression he was ill. However, I don't think everyone shares your high opinion of him.

Posted by: DingDingDing! at September 18, 2009 05:02 PM (OOn1v)

331 331: Ok. My bad.

Posted by: eddiebear at September 18, 2009 05:03 PM (wnU1W)

332 Absolutely amazing.
I began reading Little Green Footballs shortly after 9/11. It was, at the time, one of the most sensible blogs concerning Islamic terrorism and anything but a friend of the left.
He was often accused of being a right-wing "hate" blog by the Left. He was hatefully derided by the Left. Which, of course, makes it so confusing to see what he has turned his website into.
He would constantly highlight the horrible protests being waged by the Kos Kids and ANSWER. He would bash the Democrats over their blatant hypocrisy regarding the War on Terror and Iraq.
Looks like now he has turned his attention to the Teaparties. He found some fairly racist signs and is now passing it off as being the norm (somehow, I wouldn't be surprised if they were plants from the Democrats).
I stopped reading it a couple of years ago... it was just too depressing with all the anti-Islamic posts and he rarely, if ever, provided much editorial content/analysis...so, turned my attention to other blogs.
Just visited the website. Wow. Don't really recognize it. Funny, his website reminds me of Kos now.
Charles Johnson was never a Republican, but he seemed to really have little use for the Left and they definitely didn't like him. He did, for the most part, get his traffic from the Right....so, I guess he is working on building up a liberal audience.
I won't be going back, and it is a shame.
Maybe Chaz just likes to support whoever happens to be in power at any given moment...real intellectual bravery, isn't it.

Posted by: Mark Green at September 18, 2009 05:03 PM (xeTBZ)

333 Is he a sex offender?



Probably not, but if you Google it enough times he will be.

Posted by: Blazer at September 18, 2009 05:04 PM (+FzLa)

334 Peter Mayhew, who played everyone's favorite wookiee, is white. Just for the record.
The wookiee idea in general was based on Lucas' dog. I have no idea if the dog was white or blackCaucasian or African-American.

Posted by: Silhouette at September 18, 2009 05:04 PM (+ZT5h)

335 I hope Zombie will get out of that place now. It diminishes her if she stays. It would diminish any decent person.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at September 18, 2009 05:04 PM (NLX11)

336 Heh.
You gotta love CJ and his dimwitted trolls claiming that he's the victim of "hate" at Hot Air. Because Hot Air is allowing former members to expose the words and methods that CJ uses to keep his buttboys in the butt-line?
What a hypocrite. I don't think the dumb f*#k has ever read his own blog.

Posted by: lincolntf at September 18, 2009 05:05 PM (R7wy8)

337 331 Realwest was lying through his teeth and was caught. FYI.

Thanks. On it's face, it was a bizarre story. But I hate to think that someone would make up such a lie with out more proof.

Posted by: DingDingDing! at September 18, 2009 05:05 PM (OOn1v)

338 Agreed, Blazer.



Not only would that drive Herr Johnson batshit, it's deserved.



I love the Blogmocracy!

Posted by: TeamDub at September 18, 2009 05:05 PM (qwG4I)

339 DingDingDing! - Realwest is battling cancer. I think he's a good guy, as we have e-mailed back and forth for a while. I also think he is probably disturbed at the downward spiral that is LGF.
As far as the WTC story? I honestly don't know.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 18, 2009 05:05 PM (zgZzy)

340 298 >>> seconded. Jeff would tear him a new one!

Posted by: vai2112 at September 18, 2009 05:06 PM (pkOAj)

341 340: fair enough.

Posted by: eddiebear at September 18, 2009 05:06 PM (wnU1W)

342 345 I hope Zombie will get out of that place now. It diminishes her if she stays. It would diminish any decent person.
zombietime is a gem. hopefully she takes after rusty, and just stands on her own the future. her contributions were some of the best photos there since rathergate

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 05:07 PM (B5RxW)

343 I don't know Realwest. People who do know him say he's a good guy. Why he would tell a lie like that, I don't know.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at September 18, 2009 05:07 PM (NLX11)

344 Jim in San Diego,


yes, you caught me on my secret mission. you sir are a true super sleuth.

my mission to spread liberal, evolutionist, anti-christian malaware to ace of spades readers has been uncovered. nein!

*bites cyanide capsule*

Posted by: spacejesus at September 18, 2009 05:07 PM (ubqO/)

345 images, rather

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 05:08 PM (B5RxW)

346 OK, so it seems Hot Air has ruffled some feathers, because Media Matters singled the blog out as being responsible for "smearing" Van Jones. Now LGF is leveling accusations of racism. This doesn't seem coincidental.

CJ supposedly banned a lot of people, and I'm sure that his readership has dropped off anyway. Like any other echo chamber, he is trying to make ends meet. I'm sure he gets a check from someone.

Not that I care. I've never read LGF, I don't consult the opinions of grown men with ponytails wearing bike shorts, and the name Kilgore Trout sounds like a euphemism for dropping a big turd, like a Cleveland Steamer or something.

Posted by: Tattoo DePlane at September 18, 2009 05:09 PM (b+cwQ)

347 DingDingDing! - Realwest is battling cancer. I think he's a good guy,
as we have e-mailed back and forth for a while. I also think he is
probably disturbed at the downward spiral that is LGF.


So sad to hear. I remember him from LGF although he probably doesn't remember me. I thought he was one of the best commenters over there. I hope he gets through it.

My heart and my prayers go out to him.

Posted by: Blazer at September 18, 2009 05:09 PM (+FzLa)

348 Back to Lunatic Guitarist Follies with you, spacejizz.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at September 18, 2009 05:09 PM (NLX11)

349 Anybody want to point out that Peter Mayhew, the dude who plays Chewbacca, is white?

Would anybody call Halle Berry a wookie? Beyonce? Even Oprah?

No, because they aren't hulking, broad-shouldered lumbering oxes.

And one of the funniest things Laura Ingraham used to do was play Chewbacca noises when talking about Janet Reno.

See? Wookie is not about race.

And Charles Johnson is a scrunt.

Posted by: nickless at September 18, 2009 05:09 PM (MMC8r)

350 As much as I disike Obama, I've never been a fan of calling his wife names. I am of the mindset that as long as Obama thinks she is beautiful, who am I to call her names. It does make me sick to see her all over the "most beautiful" lists, tho. If you dont want me to tell you your '75 pinto is a piece of shit, dont keep telling me what a pussy magnet it is. See what i'm getting at? If I am rambling, I just came from my surgeons office, and I am full of morphine. I feel like I made sense though. Look, a pony!

Posted by: The Drizzle at September 18, 2009 05:10 PM (fWnCD)

351 What is tragically ironic is how frequently Charles has defended himself from attacks by Lefty blogs criticizing the comments made by his own commenters as non-representative of LGF.

He's lost it...

Posted by: DANEgerus at September 18, 2009 05:11 PM (gCp6j)

352 I saw a few times where Realwest would say test for his first post, perhaps not knowing if he had been banned. I feel so sad for him. He seemed like a nice fellow, so hopeful.

Posted by: madamex at September 18, 2009 05:13 PM (usk+Q)

353 Banned at lgf.

Fuck them. Totally. I'm re-reading the fucking pdfs right the fuck now.

If 'I' owned lgf KT'd be so fucking gone the moon would slow in it's rotation.

Posted by: Mortis at September 18, 2009 05:13 PM (hA5JK)

354 I wonder if spacejesus has actually read what killgore posted at hotair....

Posted by: Tokin42 at September 18, 2009 05:14 PM (mBjK6)

355 The wookiee idea in general was based on Lucas' dog. I have no idea if the dog was white or black Caucasian or African-American.

Posted by: Silhouette at September 18, 2009 05:04 PM (+ZT5h)

Which means I was right when I thought this was more along the lines of the "Chelsea Clinton is a dog" joke than racism. The left is just angry, because it's funny. They knew Chelsea was butt ugly, but she was a kid. A spoiled, rich kid who's family made their money ass-raping the American public, but still, it's mean. I have no such qualms about Michelle Obama.

Posted by: Tattoo DePlane at September 18, 2009 05:15 PM (b+cwQ)

356 Hotair also went BAN crazy, I got banned at HA in this whole shoot 'em up.. not sure why ?? Friggin Allah is not that much better, give the bastard time .. hammer be swingin.

Posted by: puss at September 18, 2009 05:17 PM (VSWPU)

357 Honestly, though: What does everyone think happened to LGF? I feel like it is all a money thing. Am I wrong to think that all this started around the same time as the Amazon worship? He seems to really be their whore. I wonder if that's why he's acting this way? Anyone?

Posted by: The Drizzle at September 18, 2009 05:18 PM (fWnCD)

358 Practically any body on the internet knows if you log into most blogs or internet forums at 3:00 AM in the morning, even if that forum is supposedly moderated, you'll pretty much have a free hand to put up what ever you want.

Until I got banned for posting conservative stuff at the General Discussion and Off Topic forums at Rotten Tomatoes, I was a regular there for about a year.

Usually between 3:00 AM and 6:00 AM was the time the trolls and banned members coming back with new accounts would spam-bomb the boards with porn and hate speech.

They knew the moderators wouldn't show up until around 6:30 AM, and so if they got their stuff up early it could fill the board up for over 3 hours.

KT obviously knew how this works. He's totally safe posting crap like this on HA at 3:00 am and his rhetorical demands to know why his posts aren't being removed at 4:00 am are laughable.

Even CJ doesn't moderate his board 24 hours a day - you can tell when he logs in and starts checking the comments because he will start deleting stuff.

Total assclownery now on display for the entire intraweb to see.

Nice going, CJ and KT.

Posted by: manofaiki at September 18, 2009 05:21 PM (uSh7j)

359 Realwest always struck me as a good guy. Bright, principled, lots of life experience, always pleasant.
I think he just ignores the Leftist horror-show that LGF has become in order to keep the peace. He's far too intelligent (just guessing by his posts) to be duped by the likes of CJ, KT, Shamu, etc.
Poor guy just wanted a place to chat and he ran in to a bunch of nutjobs. Not his fault.

Posted by: lincolntf at September 18, 2009 05:21 PM (R7wy8)

360 I'll bet SpaceJesus here can tell us exactly what ole' Charles butthole stastes like. My money's on raisin bran.

Posted by: The Drizzle at September 18, 2009 05:27 PM (fWnCD)

361 Crusty wrote: I would have agreed with that up until I found out that his wife worked very hard to keep partial-birth abortion legal in Illinois. She personally sent out fundraising letters on behalf of Barack's campaign. From that point forward, I considered Michelle open game for almost any kind personal attack. Look at footage of a baby's head sticking out of his mother's womb, a doctor jamming scissors into the baby's skull and scrambling his brains, then tell me I'm out of line for comparing that filthy woman to a movie character.
My God. Disgusting.
Had never seen this. Thanks, I think?

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 05:29 PM (B5RxW)

362 #371
I'm just kinda weird about that. I constantly hear people talk about other guy's wives, and I always say "He loves her, why the fuck are you worried about how she looks". Just a thing with me, I guess.

Posted by: The Drizzle at September 18, 2009 05:30 PM (fWnCD)

363 What does everyone think happened to LGF?

CJ was always a lefty. The last few years he's been living a lie. Now he'sletting us know what he really thinks.

Posted by: flenser at September 18, 2009 05:30 PM (dsc5D)

364 Also. I never said anyone was "out of line " for calling her names, I just said it always made me feel weird to talk about the way another guy's wife looks. Do I think M. Obama is attractive? Not really. Do I think she's the ugliest woman alive? Nope. Do I think she's one of the "sexiest women alive"? Not on this planet.

Posted by: The Drizzle at September 18, 2009 05:33 PM (fWnCD)

365 I wonder if spacejesus has actually read what killgore posted at hotair....
Oh, he knows all right. He doesn't care.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at September 18, 2009 05:34 PM (NLX11)

366 I used a sock puppet to leave this comment there last night in his 10,000th post claiming 9/12 tea party numbers weren't what they were.

'A lot more people there than will ever visit this shark-jumping shitty website on any given day.

LGF: The laughingstock of the blogosphere.

Enjoy your irrelevance.

Haven't been here in awhile. What a sad, pathetic bunch.'

CJ later moaned that I "spewed insults" at him after it took him 30 seconds to remove the comment. Poor baby.

Posted by: JWF at September 18, 2009 05:35 PM (29kbu)

367 288

269

MY account was locked/closed/ban, just today for the comment:



Wow. Just Wow.
You have to be kidding. I read that comment, has it been deleted?


Posted by: Tokin42 at September 18, 2009 04:10 PM (ONkRu)
Nope, it's still there.

Posted by: digger at September 18, 2009 05:38 PM (sqi+F)

368 lot of folks here seem obsessed with charle's ass for some reason. hmmm...

I always had a hankering paleo-conservatives were closet homosexuals. Why else would you all be so fascinated with his pony tail and butt?

It's ok, you guys can come out of that big dark closet. There's nothing to be ashamed of in finding another man attractive, don't repress it with fake anger. Remember SpaceJesus will love you no matter what.

Posted by: spacejesus at September 18, 2009 05:39 PM (ubqO/)

369 This commenter makes a good point, that I too witnesssed last night when the word got around about KT.
Time to close the book on these people.

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 05:39 PM (B5RxW)

370 I guess my WASP codebook is out of date, because I didn't know and wouldn't haveguessed that "wookie" was code for a black person. So it doesn't strike me as the most telling of sting operations, but I haven't seen any of the comments or replies, so maybe I'm wrong.
Apropos of nothing, probably, I have heard the term "wookie-suiter" used to refer to libertarians. I thought that was a slight stretch the first time I heard it, but its been growing on me since.
http://tinyurl.com/nemo79

Posted by: Dave R. at September 18, 2009 05:41 PM (1YG6F)

371 378
Yeah, pointing out the stupidity and narrow-mindedness of LGF is "spewing insults".
Charlie Waffles wouldn't even have a website if it wasn't for "spewing insults" about idiots who lie in the media.
He's a lightweight version of Dan Rather, except that Dan once actually had a career. Ickey Johnson never did.

Posted by: lincolntf at September 18, 2009 05:42 PM (R7wy8)

372

@381
Seriously dude break time is over time to get back to work polishing chucks knob

Posted by: bulwrk at September 18, 2009 05:43 PM (HSJkR)

373 I thought it was the dementia I infected Charles with the other night.....

Posted by: Andi "The Pitcher" Sullivan at September 18, 2009 05:43 PM (61BD9)

374 204 -- That's exactly what it is. In so doing, they don't allow anyone of the "oppressed races" to stand on their own and have some FREEDOM of thought and action. Everything has to be done for the oppressed....so they can do nothing for themselves.
How can you be truly human if not allowed just a shred, a bit of freedom? How racist and oppressive is that, to not allow people the one thing that gives you humanity? How freaking awful is that, to not look at somebody as another person, with freedom of will and some measure of self-determination (whether you like what they are or don't), but as the member of a "race" a "group" (and an inferior group at that). Gah! Basta! It makes me sick!
(and foranother thing -- bs, people are not "pure raced" whatever "race" is supposed to mean -- it certainly can't be taken much further than distinctions between breeds of dogs, and not purebred dogs at that -- we're all more like the mutts at the pound, it's a ridiculous notion, and besides, who couldn't love a mongrel? insecure elitist assholes, that's who!).

Posted by: unknown jane at September 18, 2009 05:44 PM (5/yRG)

375 Has anyone seen spacejesus over here I'm horny and if he wants that moderators position over at lgf he'd better quit screwing around and get busy.

Posted by: Charles Johnson at September 18, 2009 05:46 PM (HSJkR)

376 Well, ole Chuckie can shove that favorite bicycle seat up his ass for all I care.....
Call him Charles "Chickenshit" Johnson now.....

Posted by: Crowsting at September 18, 2009 05:47 PM (61BD9)

377 381

Spacejesus, shouldn't you get back to LGF where you can suckle at the breast of Shamu while fondling yourself to the dulcet tones of CJ's jazz?

(Be mindful that if you miss two consecutive ball-washing sessions you will be BANNED!)

Posted by: SpaceAllah at September 18, 2009 05:48 PM (R7wy8)

378 My LGF account went back to 2004 or 2005, so it was four or five years that I was a lizard. In the beginning, there were spirited discussions, hardly anybody got banned, and Charred Johnson almost never commented in the threads. His devolution from anti-idiotarian to Lord of the Flies of all idiotarians has been directly proportional to his bannings and participation in the comments. Not saying there is a causal link, rather a symptom of something else, and I'm pretty sure that something else is money.

Charred has been trying to figure out how to cash in on LGF since Rathergate, I think (He loves to rerun the pulsating memo, but he never credits Buckhead, who was first on the internet to notice the proportional font default setting from MS Word). Pajamas Media didn't work, so now he's trying Amazon. I'm betting his new masters are "helping" him with the "direction" of his weblog.

Just a theory, but it's hard to see any other reason for going from anti-idiot to idiot in two years flat, leaving a trail of over 1,500 banned accounts in your wake other than cold, hard, cash.

Posted by: Angus Dei at September 18, 2009 05:49 PM (q+Jbb)

379 I was thankfully banned from LGF a little while ago, but a friend of mine is still a member and he happens to be black. He also happens to dislike Obama and his policies, like any intelligent person would do.

Charles and his psycho minions are now attacking this black friend of mine who posts at LGF for daring to take exception to Killgore Trout's ignorant racist trolling. LGF has become nothing more than pure garbage for allowing this crap.





Posted by: liberals suck at September 18, 2009 05:51 PM (9/OVq)

380 Keep in mind CJ knew way beforehand what KT was going to do. KT posted his intentions way beforehand on LGF and noone called him out on it, not even CJ.

LGF is a hatesite comparable to Stormfront. Charles Johnson should call up Don Black and invite him over for cocktails.

Posted by: Blazer at September 18, 2009 05:51 PM (+FzLa)

381 Killgore's chicken fucking last night was the direct result of his incitement by the cult leader. Charles has created an environment of total control, and his lackeys have been taken under that spell. This is not the fault of Killgore Trout, whoever that weak minded chicken fucker may be. It can be laid squarely at the feet of Charles Johnson, cult leader. Blogospherians, it is well past intervention time. I'm afraid he will end up the most famous webcam .357 eater of all time at his present pace. Somebody fucking do something.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 18, 2009 05:52 PM (nW046)

382 Morrisey
if you use racial, ethnic, and/or animal terms to describe politicians and their families (I’m certain I don’t need to explain further), your comments will get deleted and your account closed.
So he basically agreed with Trout. Even though wookies are not "animals".

Posted by: flenser at September 18, 2009 05:53 PM (dsc5D)

383 Pajamas Media didn't work, so now he's trying
Amazon. I'm betting his new masters are "helping" him with the
"direction" of his weblog.



Posted by: Angus Dei at September 18, 2009 05:49 PM (q+Jbb)

I think it's unfair to blame Amazon for the fact that Charles Johnson likes to ride his bike with the seat taken off. Other conservative sites use them without problems.

Posted by: Maureen Dowd at September 18, 2009 05:55 PM (xVKXy)

384 Seee seeee seeeee! I'm not wascist!
Good times. *barf*

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 05:55 PM (B5RxW)

385 The assumption by KT/CJ (and dimwitted Leftists everywhere) that every conservative is white reveals both their ignorance and their bias.
We all know that 95+ percent of African Americans voted for Obama. Did it never occur to the LGF scuzzballs that the other 5% might be reading their site? Or reading Hot Air?
Clowns.


Posted by: Lincolntf at September 18, 2009 05:57 PM (R7wy8)

386 spacejesus
You know what's great about AoS? I can debate Ace, even tell him he sucks, and not have to worry about being banned. Why? Because we both know that in debate, the free flow of thought and information, we may both learn something, or come up with some thought or idea that just might move the conservative agenda and candidates forward and stop this march toward statism/socialism.

Try doing that at lgf and get back to me.

Posted by: ex-lgfer at September 18, 2009 05:58 PM (8XI4A)

387 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmVXJ3hQrPo

Posted by: Michelle Chewbamma at September 18, 2009 05:58 PM (xVKXy)

388 "What does everyone think happened to LGF?CJ was always a lefty. The last few years he's been living a lie. Now he'sletting us know what he really thinks."
It's really weird. It's more than just repressedleftism, isn't it? Strange stuff like (a) CJ's recent regression to curt, passive-aggressive mode of argument; (b) CJ's tolerance/need for the blatant toadyism of Sharmuta, et al; (c) The spike in bannings and deletions. I got banned on Van Jones night, when this thing seemed to crack wide open. I gotta think CJ and VJ were personal friends or something.
I just finished reading randomguy's PDFs of KT's posts. I'm guessing KT was drunk, just from the stacattorepetitive, unimaginative nature of the posts. If CJ has any dignity, he should ban KT now. He's banned plenty of people for doing far less.

Posted by: gp at September 18, 2009 05:59 PM (Po2v+)

389 Charles Johnson is a fucking douche-nozzle. But I repeat myself.

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at September 18, 2009 06:00 PM (QxGmu)

390 It would be a shame if Amazonknew the controversial tripe their affliate is peddling...
/ducks

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 06:00 PM (B5RxW)

391 Posted by: liberals suck at September 18, 2009 05:51 PM (9/OVq)
I have a paddle I will loan Him,ask Him to spank them hard ! This is just wrong on so many levels.

Posted by: Wilsons ..willow at September 18, 2009 06:01 PM (GkYyh)

392 They're claiming victory over at LGF, and they might as well, since HA just caved to their argument that "wookie" is racist. I'm disappointed, but not surprised.

Posted by: flenser at September 18, 2009 06:05 PM (dsc5D)

393 @flenser
Links?

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 06:06 PM (B5RxW)

394
I am uncertain about "realwest".
Back in 2007 when the Fjordmann/GOV/VB brouhaha happened, realwest posted this, post #116.
Maybe it's just me, but I've always felt that countries should be allowed to control their borders, their people should have self-determination, etc.
Admittedly, this is a modern viewpoint; roll the clock back far enough (maybe 150 years) and not everyone felt this way. Roll it farther back ,and almost no one felt this way.
At some point, during this brouhaha, CJ admitted / was backed into a corner and forced to admit, that he believed that people have the right to control their borders, have self-determination, etc. From his words, he seemed rather severely pissed. The exact context wording and link are somewhere out there.
I've seen the nic "SpaceJesus" at LGF recently. I am uncertain about it; you will have to decide for yourselves.

Posted by: Arbalest at September 18, 2009 06:07 PM (niQGf)

395 They're claiming victory over at LGF, and they
might as well, since HA just caved to their argument that "wookie" is
racist. I'm disappointed, but not surprised.

Posted by: flenser at September 18, 2009 06:05 PM (dsc5D)
They didn't cave in to anything. I visit hotair daily and they told us not to call Michelle a wookie ages ago. Charles "Penis Humidor" Johnson and his army of ball sacks had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Johnny at September 18, 2009 06:09 PM (xVKXy)

396 Well, if you want to call Michelle a Wookie or a Klingon, come on over to Tizona. We have no issues whatsoever with that, because we're racists. LOL!

Posted by: Angus Dei at September 18, 2009 06:09 PM (q+Jbb)

397 Chucky claims to be such a fan of the truth, and "fact check your ass" but doesn't publicly rebuke Killgore the tuna? Chucky, you have zero fucking credibility.

Posted by: passionate conservative at September 18, 2009 06:10 PM (PU/sc)

398 I thought wookies were supposed to be trannies, the way Chewbacca always accessorized with that handbag.

Posted by: King Friday at September 18, 2009 06:14 PM (h9khy)

399 Why, oh why, are we still talking about that idiot? He is far and away the biggest loser on the internet.

Posted by: Jack Burton at September 18, 2009 06:17 PM (YxJoH)

400 410
Good point. Let's fact-check LGF's ass.

Does LGF consider KT (the guy who's been spewing Stormfront talking points and throwing the N-word at the President''s wife) a valued contributor? Yes. That's a fact.
Does LGF believe that "9/11 Troofers" like Van Jones should be a part of the current Administration? Hell yes. There's another fact.
Does LGF promote the views of anti-Semitic nutjob outfits like DailyKos and HuffPo? Damn right they do.
Does LGF ban everyone who doesn't prostrate themselves before the Holy Ponytail? You better believe it.


Posted by: Lincolntf at September 18, 2009 06:20 PM (R7wy8)

401 I bent my wookie.. does that make me a raaaaacist?

Posted by: Ralph Wiggum at September 18, 2009 06:23 PM (ytY45)

402 QED
What a waste of time.

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 06:23 PM (B5RxW)

403 No, Hot Air isn't a racist site.

But I'm beginning to think LGF is.

Spacejesus? Is that youuuuuuuuuuu, Killgore?

Posted by: Rhinestone Suderman at September 18, 2009 06:26 PM (TafJB)

404 I think somebody once compared Obama to Spock. Does this mean talking about Star Trek is racist now, and that we should avoid talking about it, because it's yet another code word for racism? Hey, here's one! Two Vulcans walk into a bar. . .

Posted by: Rhinestone Suderman at September 18, 2009 06:29 PM (TafJB)

405 WAS THAT A STAR TREK JOKE, YOU RACISTS?

Posted by: Rhinestone Suderman at September 18, 2009 06:30 PM (TafJB)

406 Well, my black friend who spoke out against Killgore has just been banned from LGF after making their last post was which deleted. And the racist troll Killgore is still there of course.

He sent me a screenshot of his last post before it quickly got deleted and he got banned.

So LGF bans black people for taking exception to racist troll bastards like Killgore Trout making extreme racist comments! And LGF is fine with racist troll bastards like Killgore Trout on their site!

http://___89.imageshack.us/___89/5526/lgfp1.png

Posted by: liberals suck at September 18, 2009 06:30 PM (9/OVq)

407 @416 I don't think anyone but LGFs and KosKids think so.
But, I suspect the word "wookie" was just permabanned in the links at #415.
Nobody but the most warped over sensitive asswould ever construe "wookie" as some racism term. It's like wearing race colored goggles or something. No offense Ed, I'm sure you don't have time for this shit, and I would have considered people to STFU about it too, possibly for expediency or whatever.
Slippery slope, blah, yawn.
Is GWB as Chimpy McHitler racist?
"Screw Them"
Out.

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 06:34 PM (B5RxW)

408 ANy body have any Obama/Kirk pon farr fic?

Posted by: King Friday at September 18, 2009 06:35 PM (h9khy)

409 Johnson blames the abortion murder on the atmosphere created by O'reilly, yet hewill not accept responsibility for his atmosphere inciting KT to maliciously deface/vandalize a competitor's web site.

Posted by: dept. of double standards at September 18, 2009 06:37 PM (FIkYQ)

410 If you're a racist, like Killgore, or an Albanian Nazi, LGF will love you, and press you to collective scaley lizard bosom.

But don't you dare support creationism!

Don't make Vulcan jokes, either!

Posted by: Rhinestone Suderman at September 18, 2009 06:44 PM (TafJB)

411 412 Why, oh why, are we still talking about that idiot? He is far and away the biggest loser on the internet.

Posted by: Jack Burton at September 18, 2009 06:17 PM (YxJoH)

Because we don't need another Andrew "Rawmuscleglutes" Sullivan to be the media's new token "conservative" for consultation when it requires an opinion that conflicts with conservatism/libertarianism.

Posted by: Herr Blücher at September 18, 2009 06:44 PM (sz37A)

412 Someone on the CJ thread a few days ago wondered whenSilky Ponytail would give a shout ot to Kos. I think he did earlier this week, but you'll have to go look for it yourself. I'm pretty sureI saw it though.
In light of his recent co-opting of leftist ridicule such as the more frequest use of terms such as "Murican" and "furriner" How long before the term "reich-wing" (sans scare quotes) makes it up on one of CJ's stupid posts?
Place your bets!

Posted by: restitutor orbis at September 18, 2009 06:45 PM (HWySf)

413 It's only racist when somebody else does it. When Killgore throws around the N-word, and posts racist remarks, he's doing something valid, and wonderful, and truly swell. But not racist! Ya see, it was necessary for Killgore to post those racist remarks there, to show that Hot Air is racist, although it was Killgore, himself, who posted all the racist stuff, to show he's not a racist, even though he's posting racial insults, because he's not racist, Hot Air is! Ya see? Makes sense, yes?

Killgore is really a Vulcan. He hides his pointy devil ears under a green plush Santa Clause's elf cap! Charles gets to wear the big red Santa hat. But neither one of them are racist. If you say they're racist, you'll get the ban stick, and nothing for Christmas! Christmas is racist, anyway. As Killgore would tell you, all Christians are facists.

Posted by: Rhinestone Suderman at September 18, 2009 06:50 PM (TafJB)

414 paleo-conservatives
If you believe that there are any paleo-cons posting or commenting at Ace's, you are one dumb fuck.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 18, 2009 07:02 PM (IRbsq)

415 What I find interesting is how being a " racist " is now the worst thing a person can be. If you for whatever crazy reason hate black people because of their skin color, you are now banned from society.
Where in the Constitution does it say you can't hate people because of how they look? What if you hate people because they smell bad or they talk to loud or they don't make eye contact when you talk to them?
Somehow, being labled a " racist " is worse than anything... I find that pretty funny. For the record, the only people I EVER see who hate people for their skin color are black people. I don't know a single white dude who hates anyone based on race. My buddies like people who are interesting, fun, motivated and nice. Race means nothing.

Posted by: beaumandy at September 18, 2009 07:11 PM (amSe4)

416 If everyone is a racist, then no one is a racist.

Posted by: rawmuse at September 18, 2009 07:16 PM (0ubGS)

417 It's like a Manson-family mentality thing goin on over at LGF.

Posted by: d at September 18, 2009 07:17 PM (DWWyX)

418 Good Gawd. Charles Johnson is now a paranoid jackoff blogging in a bunker while he sends his flying monkeys out to moby all the conservative sites, so he can scream "gotcha". The man is four cans short of a fucking six pack.

Posted by: SFC MAC at September 18, 2009 07:19 PM (cuNX0)

419 429

Rawmuse, (Hello and nice to see you, by the way) your post is a good lead into the real damage that apologists and enablers like CJ do.
By debasing words like "racist" and "Nazi", they nullify decades of good works by people who want to eradicate both mindsets.
CJ has obviously decided that his site can't survive without racists to rail against, so he invents racists.
The cynicisnm and contempt for minorities that he and his followers are taking adavantage of is disgusting. He (and they) should be ashamed of themselves.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 18, 2009 07:25 PM (R7wy8)

420 Stirring the pot.

*whistles*

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 07:28 PM (B5RxW)

421 Thank you lincoltf, and all the other LGF expats.
I have enjoyed posting here for the most part, and seeing some familiar nics.

Posted by: rawmuse at September 18, 2009 07:30 PM (0ubGS)

422 Does supporting Killgore's racist comments make Chucky a closet white supremacist and the owner of a white power crypto fascist blog ?

You Betchya !

Posted by: Sarah Palin at September 18, 2009 07:35 PM (bs65l)

423 The irony is that Wookies aren't ape like. They are bear like. Does this mean that Kilgore is implying that MO is a gay man?

BTW, I would like to thank Charles for turning me on to Beck. I had never watched the guy but I could tell by what CJ was saying that I needed to see for myself. Beck is a bit schlocky sometimes but it IS possible to watch something and NOT agree with everything you see. Some people can even overlook the presentation and concentrate on the facts. Shocking I know but most people attain this magical ability once they become adults.

Posted by: Voluble at September 18, 2009 07:50 PM (nZNTl)

424 I just got my account blocked for linking Hot Air -- and for suggesting that they needed to move on to things like creationism and creationism.LGF is done as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: ukuleledave at September 18, 2009 07:54 PM (netQx)

425 It's official: Charles allows a racist smear-merchant to post on his blog. He is as bad as Vlaams Belang and David Duke.

We can call him the Grand Lizard of the KKK.

I never thought those claims that Killgore Trout = Charles had much merit. I'm seriously reconsidering.

Posted by: Mike Z. at September 18, 2009 08:03 PM (xTzeW)

426 SUMMON THE METEORS

Posted by: UncleFacts Summoner of Meteors, Overseer of Burghers at September 18, 2009 08:04 PM (vZVv7)

427 Charles Johnson is the Norma Desmond of the blogosphere.

Posted by: nunia at September 18, 2009 08:05 PM (mIR1F)

428 I would suggest to HA the same that I suggested to CJ (before he went totally batshiite insane) that they do - Put the offensive comments into "the dumpster" that can be jumped to from the [deleted] tag, with a brief statement why it was dumped.

In this case the brief statement could be,
"Moby from LGF dick-danced all over HA to 'prove' we were racist, Charles Johnson approves and concurs. LGF is a haven for race-Mobies"

CJ did not do this, nor will HA, and like LGF HA will start deleting accounts and claim that it was for some alleged heinious reason... it's easy to be a tyrant.

Posted by: Druid at September 18, 2009 08:20 PM (Gct7d)

429 Well aren't those LGF Kidz special.

They have taken it upon themselves to do racist policing in the dead of the night by being racists.
Who woulda thunk.

Posted by: Drider at September 18, 2009 08:26 PM (aZn+0)

430 I can't help but think there is something seriously wrong with Charles. His recent hissy fits seem so out of character that I sometimes believe I'm reading fiction.

Posted by: AC at September 18, 2009 08:28 PM (A51gv)

431 Belated response: having been on LGF regularly in the day (and not been there at all in the past several months), I can confirm that:

* moby trolls would regularly try to post racist or inflammatory shit in the comments section
* various lefty blogs would sometimes use this to try and claim that Charles Johnson was himself racist and/or inflammatory
* CJ would defend himself on the basis that a moderator can only remove comment posts as they come to his attention, not 100% as instantly as they go up, and that what a random commenter shoots off his mouth about is not necessarily the same thing as what the site owner endorses.

In other words, the exact opposite of his position now that his shoe's on the other foot.

Hypocrite much, CJ? Yes, yes you are.

Posted by: Chuckg at September 18, 2009 08:44 PM (xanN9)

432 One of the few reasons Iwent to that site was to read Tilly's story. Tilly was a young lady who wasin the South (?) tower of WTC and actually made it out. She describes indetail how she got down from the 50-something floor, got herself into a space between two columns and managed to survive the actual collapse.. VERY harrowing. I have not been on the site in about 3 years, and so don't know if it's still there.
He used to have several items like that. Zombietime was another.



Posted by: grasshopper at September 18, 2009 08:46 PM (CYML/)

433 BikeBoy has his inner hypocrit on.

HA looks as though it is agreeing to be Alinsky'd.

Sad really.

Posted by: harlekwin at September 18, 2009 08:46 PM (Du6io)

434 Re 391:
I suppose money could explain the change in atmosphere at LGF. If that is the case then it's too bad. LGF used to be the premiere ani-idiotarian site on the net. I guess I assumed wrongly that CJ had a good bit of integrity. Geez..this turn of events is really sad.

Posted by: AC at September 18, 2009 08:50 PM (A51gv)

435 I suppose money could explain the change in atmosphere at LGF. If that is the case then it's too bad. LGF used to be the premiere ani-idiotarian site on the net. I guess I assumed wrongly that CJ had a good bit of integrity. Geez..this turn of events is really sad.
You know what they say about assholes... Everyone has one, and at some point or another you're going to smell it.
I think that's how it goes, anyway.

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 08:56 PM (B5RxW)

436 Moving LGF to Left Channels wasn't so much a stroke of genius as overdue website housekeeping.

Posted by: Christoph at September 18, 2009 08:59 PM (56Gag)

437 I hear this is the place for all us ex-lizards!

Posted by: stevieray at September 18, 2009 09:07 PM (2rqGD)

438 Remember the LGF dictionary?

moby
- An insidious and specialized type of left-wing troll who visits blogs
and impersonates a conservative for the purpose of either spreading
false rumors intended to sow dissension among conservative voters, or
who purposely posts inflammatory and offensive comments for the purpose
of discrediting the blog in question. The term is derived from the name
of the liberal musician Moby, who famously suggested in February of 2004
that left-wing activists engage in this type of subterfuge: "For
example, you can go on all the pro-life chat rooms and say you're an
outraged right-wing voter and that you know that George Bush drove an
ex-girlfriend to an abortion clinic and paid for her to get an
abortion. Then you go to an anti-immigration Web site chat room and
ask, 'What's all this about George Bush proposing amnesty for illegal
aliens?'" The strategy has been frequently attempted on LGF and
elsewhere, but has not been nearly as effective as Moby envisioned,
since false rumors are easily debunked by fact-checking minions, and
cartoonishly extreme commenters often get immediately identified as
mobys and banned from LGF.

Before Charles Johnson's dissent into leftwing madness, such behavior was frowned upon.

Posted by: Nice Deb at September 18, 2009 09:09 PM (dzluf)

439 Truthfully, I think we should stop with the speculating and just ignore him. The more we talk about "The Great Unexplainable Change" ,or the TGUC as I like to call it, the more it feeds his sense of persecution. LGF was good for a while, now it ain't. Them's the breaks.

Posted by: AC at September 18, 2009 09:09 PM (A51gv)

440


#407At some point,
during this brouhaha, CJ admitted / was backed into a corner and
forced to admit, that he believed that people have the right to control
their borders, have self-determination, etc. From his words, he seemed
rather severely pissed. The exact context wording and link are
somewhere out there.


Posted by: Arbalest

Heh, I resemble that comment (diff nic there) - was banned shortly thereafter and CJ also [deleted] all my comments for about two years before the ban-stick came out.Memory-hole for you!

Posted by: Druid at September 18, 2009 09:22 PM (Gct7d)

441 Uhh, if wookie is out, is President Oreo out too?

Posted by: Druid at September 18, 2009 09:24 PM (Gct7d)

442 I hear this is the place for all us ex-lizards!
That it is! It's comforting to see so many familiar nics. I was never fond of the nic I chose for LGF so I came up with a new one. I'm saving my old identity for one final blow out and the inevitable banning that will result.

Posted by: AC at September 18, 2009 09:27 PM (A51gv)

443 A hilarious Downfall/Hitler rant mashup video about Charles and his minions. (I'm not even going to try the link thingy here. It never works.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFgKXAphIlc

Posted by: Flubber at September 18, 2009 09:28 PM (0LOh+)

444 Shark Jumped: LGF Blog Wars
It's sort of long, so I'm posting as a link about this.
- Traction Control

Posted by: USCitizen at September 18, 2009 09:33 PM (x0kcN)

445 How fucking stupid is this? Chewbacca was awesome. He was smart too. It would never be an insult to call a man Chewbacca if he happened to look like him. It would be funny. It's funny for Michelle because she is big and *happens* to resemble a wookie! It's funny to make fun of domineering women like that. I have never heard another black woman called a wookie before, so how can it be some racist codeword?

Posted by: bandit at September 18, 2009 10:08 PM (TDLoT)

446 I remain convinced that most, if not all, of the most vociferous defenders of Charles Johnson on his site are his own sockpuppets. I firmly believe he uses those screennames to post on other sites so he can deny he ever posts on any comments thread. He's just way too opinionated and obsessed to NOT comment- he just wants to act like he has this army of defenders. They ape his language and points too perfectly. Even if a sycophant is trying to kiss ass, they hit the wrong note now and then as they misjudge the boss's intent- CJ's sycophants never do this, they are always note-perfect.


I think it was CJ who posted, as "kilgore trout". I think he posts as KT and other names (I _know_ he is Mandy Manners, at least some of the time, it's a fact, he's fucked up and posted as the owner of the site but forgotten to log off MM when he's done it, then changed the sig of the post quickly, but too late) I think he has a stable of sockpuppets that make up the majority of his ass-kissing brigade over there. I think he's a fucking psycho and so paranoid and obsessed that he is very near a psychotic episode and a complete mental breakdown. I wouldn't be surprised if LGF is gone by next year.


His ego would never let him get rid of it voluntarily, but it may be taken from him.

Posted by: ms. docweasel at September 18, 2009 10:11 PM (kgwdA)

447 Posted by: ms. docweasel at September 18, 2009 10:11 PM (kgwdA)
Hmm. Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
You see, the thing about conspiracy theories, and why they are always false, is that no-one can keep their mouth shut. People love to talk (look at me).
So, for for what your saying to be to true, no more than one person could know about it... HEY! Wait a minute..............

Posted by: randomguy at September 18, 2009 10:25 PM (B5RxW)

448 I don't know if this is him, but it would seem to fit

Killgore Trout's Myspace page

Posted by: kbdabear at September 18, 2009 10:25 PM (0Lv+U)

449 461 - I don't think that's him, I think Chuckie's butt boy lives in OR. At any rate don't harass the guy

Posted by: kbdabear at September 18, 2009 10:29 PM (0Lv+U)

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Posted by: jason at September 18, 2009 10:43 PM (rAEHB)

451 I don't know if this is him, but it would seem to fitKillgore Trout's Myspace page


No, Kilgore Trout is spells his name with one 'l' as in the original Vonnegut character. I'm sure there is more than one KT running around the web.

Posted by: Mike Z. at September 18, 2009 10:47 PM (xTzeW)

452 His ego would never let him get rid of it voluntarily...


That's right. The blog, and not that picture of Obama, is "his precious" contrary to popular rumor.

Posted by: Mike Z. at September 18, 2009 10:51 PM (xTzeW)

453 to Charles Johnson,
thank me for your call and get off my phone ya big dope!

Posted by: Jesus at September 18, 2009 10:57 PM (RxUMK)

454 On second thought, maybe Kilgore is just trying out to get on the Canadian Human Rights Council.

Posted by: Voluble at September 18, 2009 11:50 PM (nZNTl)

455 Geezus. Can CJ's terminal velocity descent intoworthlessness be more lame? What a tool.

Posted by: Tangonine at September 18, 2009 11:54 PM (C8Pcc)

456 Charles has now decided that Ed Morrissey and his friend Allahpundit are racists.

How long before Charles comes out against Israel?

Posted by: Pastorius at September 19, 2009 12:03 AM (B7BtC)

457
It's just a matter of time before he shows himself to be a joo hating piece of shit that he really is.

Posted by: bigel (but not the real one) at September 19, 2009 12:37 AM (tFrIQ)

458 Huffington and Markos are never going to pal around with Charles. I doubt they would regard him as a potential drain on their following. They just would consider him beneath their interest now he's not allowing freedom of expression over there. The blithering imbecile has taken himself off the map entirely. People never went there to converse with him, as he will shortly realize if he has any brain matter left. And they have no reason to go there in any number now that his whole political rationale has exploded into a blinding fiery ball of FAIL in the last nine months. They used to joke over there that everyone Kos supports is doomed to defeat. That seems to be the case with Charles, now. He's made a jinx of himself. Or maybe he always was, come to think of it.

Posted by: Salem at September 19, 2009 12:59 AM (sTYE1)

459 89 Charles Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:52:27pm
re: #85 Dark_Falcon
> I thought it was just a gag, too. But Charles >keeps better track of people's comments than I do. >He may rememeber the guy as someone who trolled before.
Checked previous comments -- apologist for the tea partiers.
I'm really trying to resist using the term "teabaggers," but it's getting difficult.
---
He wonders why he's getting delinked. Hopefully Amazon takes notice and pulls his ads. Fuckwad.

Posted by: socketpup at September 19, 2009 01:01 AM (B5RxW)

460 i remember following a link at israel matzav that led to a comment from charles detailing why he didnt cover the global jihad or israel anymore. I wish i could figure out how to link it here

Posted by: Luke thighwalker at September 19, 2009 01:02 AM (T855V)

461 Charles Johnson would take a shit in the middle of your living room and then run into the street, screaming about how your house smells.
Fuck Charles Johnson, and all the other pole-gargling communists at Little Gonad Felchers.

Posted by: Sam Adams at September 19, 2009 01:02 AM (1kwr2)

462 I don't know but I always thought that Killgore Trout WAS Charles Johnson.

Posted by: jainphx at September 19, 2009 01:03 AM (ebos5)

463 Remember the last time Charles sent his Little Gay Footsoldiers over here to defend his creepy little religious cult?
(It's all recounted right there in the LGF Bible. Quoting from the First Book of Chuckie, Chapter 3, v. 7-
7 - And lo, thedisciples of Charles did descend upon the Ace of Spades, and sought to engage the Moron Horde in battle.
8 - And the Little Green Fascistswere met on the field, yea and verily, and they were roundly mocked, and insulted with great gusto, and wit, andbeaten about the head with superior facts and reason.
9 - And they didst flee fromthe moron midst, bloodied andshrieking, arguments thoroughly discredited, and did rend their soiled undergarments above their heads, and gnash their teeth, and cry out unto their Lord God Charles, "Oh, Chuckie! Why hast thou forsaken us?"
10 - And the Lord God Charles didst hear the lamentations of theLittle Green Fascists, and said unto them, "Behold, I go to prepare a tightly-knit online utopiafor you, where reality is whatever we say it is, so long as everyone agrees to agree with and worship Me."
11 - "For he that agrees with Me shallknow eternal bliss, and shall dwell inmy fact-free community forever and ever, Amen."
12 - And the Little Green Fascists did retreat into theircollective delusion,praising Chuckles, and saying, "Glory to Chuckie's Johnson!Fill your mouths with His testes!"
And then they went back to mocking Christians.

Posted by: Sam Adams at September 19, 2009 01:11 AM (1kwr2)

464 Hi, Chuckie!
(waving with one finger)

Posted by: Sam Adams at September 19, 2009 01:35 AM (1kwr2)

465 Yeah, peeked in at the current CJ ego stroke thread (ohhh, what good books you pick Charles, how thoughtful and interesting Charles, do you get money if we buy this shit Charles?) .....

They are going through Flickr accounts uploaded by leftists (c'mon, OhioProgressive? eat me) of the DC teaparty. CJ posts a dozen comments with photos of signs he disagrees with, albeit almost all are either dumb or objectionable on some level depending how much of an uptight asshole you are... and they all circlejerk around how bad these people are, who get out an express themselves for their country!

Charles, take a month off from your computer, and go to one of those muslim countries you were mocking that soldier for having an opinion on.

Then starts whining like a wee baby over some uncouth (the horror!) comments at Hot Air. (Ooooh, talking about Michelle Obama and poop! Hate speech! Stop the motherfucking presses everyone!)

So, you didn't like the way the guy you quoted called out the democratic women for not actually FIGHTING FOR WOMENS RIGHTS?

You elitist ass. I would like to see you shipped to Liberia or Sierra Leone for 3 months, you soft ass whiny prick.

You're no Victor Davis Hanson, you're basically a two bit, has-been internet fuckwad, that managed to crap all over the right wing blogosphere with your buggy blog.

Lastly, Mr. Bates, your traffic stats are looking sexy. Keep that trend going, bub.

Hug the Trout for us, and make sure he gives you that reacharound.

Posted by: lordylordyimturningfordy at September 19, 2009 01:39 AM (JLK25)

466 I'll give you this, Chuck. At least your blog handles line breaks. Now kindly go fuck yourself.

Posted by: lordylordyimturningfordy at September 19, 2009 01:42 AM (tTdaQ)

467 I went over to LGF for the first time in years and logged in for what I believe is the very first time ever, planning to write a comment that would be sure to get me banned.

In fact, I had it all written, and just before I hit the submit button, thought better of it. Because I give a fat rat's ass about the feelings of any of the folks there? Quite the contrary. Charles is a sad fucker, a transparent and lonely loser, just like his hero, Arianna.

I must just be getting old - I don't care what they do, I don't care what they think, and I won't waste time reading their dreck, so why give the impression that I would, by even bothering to post a comment?

Posted by: Patton at September 19, 2009 02:28 AM (xvN1A)

468 I checked out LGF. They are going batshit crazy about how only 70,000 people shoed up to the TEA protests instead of 2 million.

They go on and on and on about how 2 million didn't show up and how ridiculous people are to think that many did. They don't mention that this bar was set by democrats to set up this standard. They use really idiotic reasoning to determine how many showed, and whenever anyone points out a serious point, charles responds very sarcastically or just bans the commenter.

Charles shows that only 70,000 more Metrorail riders on this 9/12 than last one, neglecting to mention that last one was a work day and this a Saturday, so he's comparing apples to oranges., and it's more like 150,000 over the the prior week, which he ignores when it's pointed out. They go on and on about how no one could park (lie) or very few could be bussed in (lie). It's actually not that hard to walk a mile or two and park or take a charter bus. Obviously less than a tenth would take the train, which is historically normal for other massive events.

Charles relies on an estimate of the crowd at 9:45 am, and ignores the ones from the actual day.

Why? Why mock people for making realistic guesses because they don't have proof, and then make unrealistic guesses with worse than no-proof, but wild distortions? Why does Charles need to show that few showed up to the TEA protests? Why does he call those supporting the protests Tea Party Apologists? What's to apologize for?

Anyway, it's a huge echo chamber now. You disagree and you get banned, which Charles and his crowd know in their hearts is a sign of deep intellectual weakness. I cannot wait until the GOP rises from the ashes. Charles has an agenda, and it's not to cover interesting events.

Posted by: Tamale Ranger at September 19, 2009 04:25 AM (HlHsw)

469 I was one of those who made a Wookie comment, because look frankly she is tall big and gangly and looks like chewbacca next to everybody else in a picture with her.

I never associated wookie with black. I associated wookie with big and hairy.

I also said her face could curdle milk and that she had cankles.


For this i was apparently banned.

Too bad. I enjoyed spewing my non racists but now considered racist commentary there.

Its a shame but meh. In all honesty, you republicans are just as complicite and dirty as the democrats and all you all should be removed from office.


Posted by: BillaryMcBush at September 19, 2009 04:44 AM (KQ2r0)

470 I usually lurk here on AoS; about the only blog I comment on regularly these days is HA. But when I saw this posting, I had to put my two cents in.

First of all, I wish Ace would show a comment counter on posts. I had no idea this comment thread was so long until I clicked the "new comments thingy" link.

Secondly, kudos to AoS for making his blog bandwidth-friendly. I download the page every morning onto my PDA for the train in to work, to catch up on things.

Now, the CJ thing. I used to go to LGF several times a day, back when it was big. To Charles' credit, he focused the right blogosphere on the GWoT and general Dem hypocrisy better than anyone, IMHO, for several years. And he did yeoman's work on the Rathergate thing. The "throbbing memo" was perhaps Charles' finest moment, along with his founding of Pajamas Media.

But I noticed that it didn't take long for CJ to find himself on the outs with PJM. At the time, I figured it had more to do with creative differences than anything, but I noted it just the same. And then there was the way he began to mirror Maverick about the fear of attacking Obambi because it *might* appear to be racist. To which I say, bullsh!t.

Then after the election, Charles decided to go on a creationism harangue, which turned into the first Purge of LGF. When LGF became "all anti-creationism, all the time", I stopped going there. That's when he began the practice of banning people with whom he disagreed. While yes, LGF is Charles' blog, I think the practice of banning someone over philosophical differences is just plain poor taste. It may be Charles' blog, fine. It just won't be anyone else's.

I suppose the final straw was the other day when Excitable Andy linked to LGF on the Van Jones thing. And now this incident with Kilgore Trout.

Next thing you know, LGF will be joining up with the KosTards, as CJ has a Sullivan moment regarding the Republican Party. Wait for it. It's coming.

Posted by: Wanderlust at September 19, 2009 06:00 AM (JNBoE)

471 Just made my final departure from Chuckie's site (it was a long time coming).....

216 sloggin420 Sat, Sep 19, 2009 5:19:23am replyquote

Thanks for the fish, saved my saved links (which is the only reason I kept my account here given the negative changes to this site) and I bid you all adios. Charles Johnson and LGF have sunk to a new low with Killgore Trout's Racist Adventure on Hot Air. Shame on you both. Oh, and welcome to Hot Air's "Left Channels". At least have the intellectual honesty to embrace your political leanings fully. BTW, I still think Aliens have eaten CJ's brain and crapped it out back into his head... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... FLUSH ME PLEASE BOYZ N GIRLZ... SEE YOU ALL SOON AT LGF2!!! MUAH!!! OH AND KISS KISS CHUCKIE BOY!!!

Posted by: sloggin420 at September 19, 2009 08:22 AM (pEDfM)

472 482- I'm trying to stay away from that place, but I just had to see your post over there. Must be really slow - you've only got 4 down dings so far.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
yah

Posted by: lan sing at September 19, 2009 08:44 AM (cEOZd)

473 The crabs remain in the bucket at LGF. That is all.

Posted by: twolaneflash at September 19, 2009 09:38 AM (svkhS)

474 Must be really slow - you've only got 4 down dings so far.

Apparently CJ lost his monitors. He was recently bitchin' cause JammieWearingFool was one of the monitors and quit - and dropped LGF from his blogroll. IrishRose must be out to lunch or sleeping off another bender.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

Posted by: ex-lgfer at September 19, 2009 10:43 AM (8XI4A)

475 I posted on LGF that anyone who defends ACORN has no business bitching about extremists at the Tea Party Rally in DC. Banned of course. CJ is as petty as they come. His bootlicking followers are even more pathetic.

Posted by: SGT Ted at September 19, 2009 10:43 AM (PdOj3)

476 I wish spacejesus would take Chas' cock out of his mouth. I can't understand what he is saying.

Posted by: SGT Ted at September 19, 2009 11:40 AM (PdOj3)

477 I haven't posted for many months at LGF as Charles and his more ardent syncophants began their descent into increasingly inflammatory attacks against anyone with religious beliefs - and those who have the audacity to point out the problems with Darwin's theory(ie the lack of any evidence supporting macroevolution versus the clearly observed process of microevolution). I was saddened to see him start spouting support for the misleading theories of so-called man-made climate change, but I would occassionaly go to the weblinks section to catch stories I would otherwise miss. Now, given the vile acts of the despicable Kilgore Trout - who I learned early on was nothing more than Charles most rabid attackguppy - I will no longer give LGF any traffic at all.
It issad to see someone once respected lose his mind. It is even more tragic to see someone throw away his integrity.

Posted by: Babydoc at September 19, 2009 11:58 AM (goP3P)

478 464:

also, K-t lives in Portland, OR.

BTW, they have their own facebook page. Roo bad most of the people who are listed there are now banned.

Just put little green footballs in the search tool over at F-B, and click the very top link that comes up.

Funny.

Posted by: eddiebear at September 19, 2009 12:37 PM (YhmZf)

479 Trout? I thought his monitor was Philboyd Sturge?

Posted by: Hucklebuck at September 19, 2009 01:06 PM (dWyPi)

480 BTW, I joined just so I could annoy them.

Posted by: eddiebear at September 19, 2009 01:18 PM (YhmZf)

481 hey Eddiebear--I updinged your comments over at the blog that shall not be named!

Posted by: AndyPandy at September 19, 2009 05:27 PM (HqGZw)

482 THREAD CAPPER:CHAS ANNOUNCES HE IS DONE WITH "THE RIGHT"http://tinyurl.com/lcpx32"In case it wasn't obvious yet -- the right wing has lost me completely, if they ever had me, which they didn't. There's a serious bad craziness on the right. I want no part of it."

-CHAS, OBERGRUPPENKOMMANDER, LGF

Posted by: randomguy at September 19, 2009 10:17 PM (B5RxW)

483 @491. Pretty much says it all.

That place turned Fascist, Leftist, and Homosexual obsession in an eye blink.

But mainly, yea I think the dude has lost his mind.

@496 - Well, I won't criticize someone for falling out with the right, but if they are embracing the left instead, then that is proof positive of mental disease.

The left does nothing righteous. It is a pathological liar, extreme hypocritical, and communist. There are no complimentary adjectives I could apply to the left. IN the best light, the left are ignorant (without knowledge).



Posted by: The Kid at September 19, 2009 10:45 PM (5uH2c)

484
No there really were a fair amount of racist "nuke mecca" crazies that used to post at LGF back in the day.

My favorite was the "mushroom soup" guy. Uh? That was me?

Never mind.

Posted by: M. Simon at September 20, 2009 01:02 AM (mMfHt)

485 #491,

Uh. Microevolution is proof of macro evolution.

You isolate a population. Change its environment. And voila evolution.

Just like Darwin says.

Posted by: M. Simon at September 20, 2009 01:07 AM (mMfHt)

486 Charles Johnson is an emotional six-year-old with extraordinary powers
to control the blog where he rules by simply wishing away people and
things that anger or confound him. Charles has the mind and imagination
of a typical lunatic. The people at LGF have to look like lizards all
the time, think lizard thoughts, and say lizard things, because that’s
what Charles commands and, if they disobey, he can wish them into a
cornfield from whence they are never to be seen or heard from again.
What few adults remain try nervously to think like lizards and tell
Charles that he’s a good boy, hoping that Charles’s terrible power
won’t be turned upon themselves.

Posted by: MB4 at September 20, 2009 01:37 AM (/Fofd)

487 Killgore always was a relentless moron.
/heh

Posted by: rayra at September 20, 2009 02:59 AM (nLCT8)

488 wanderlust 484, the first 'Purge' was just over three years ago, when Johnson started eliminating his fact-checkers.
We wound up at GCP, which is now grouchy conservative pundits. Folks who visited LGF in the 2003-2006 timeframe should recognize many of our members.
If you're a libtard or trollish, don't bother signing up. You're not welcome.

Posted by: rayra at September 20, 2009 03:31 AM (nLCT8)

489 Hey, isn't Stacy McCain a new addition to the Hot Air blogroll? And doesn't that put CJ just one degree of separation from that angry white supremacist redneck hater? He's going to have to ban himself.

Posted by: Pablo at September 20, 2009 07:33 AM (yTndK)

490 Its been a few months, if not longer, since I went over to LGF, I was kinda suprised to see its become LGDB. It really doesn't seem any different then Kos or Olberman's personal diary,

Posted by: Rbasid at September 20, 2009 08:43 AM (NuBUM)

491 Let me add the following:

The LGF Sturmbannführer Charles Johnson and his Johnson Youth minions are apparently too stupid to spell WOOKIEE correctly. It's a Wookiee, with two of those letter E.

Posted by: Badger at September 20, 2009 01:40 PM (bCUwS)

492 Hey HorneyJaysus i think Charles Johnson wants you to go stroke his penis but be careful or you might kill him softly with your words or lack thereof and btw hot air has ben telling us not to call michelle obama wookies ever since 2007 little gonad fondlers had nothing to do wth it

Posted by: LordGeoDampierre at September 20, 2009 01:46 PM (bc6HD)

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