Howard Kurtz: You're All Racist Because No One Ever Attempted to Delegitimize a President Before
Is it racial? Are the protesters, tea-partiers, birthers, deathers, doomsayers and hecklers motivated, at least in part, by a distinct discomfort with the country's first black president? There is no definitive answer, of course, since we are talking about millions of people, from Joe Wilson, the disrespectful congressman who's now raised $700,000 for his "you lie" outburst, to the woman who told Arlen Specter that Obama is trying to transform the US of A "into Russia, into a socialist country." But I began to suspect that race was a factor for at least some critics when I heard them shouting about "the Constitution" and "taking our country back."Um, yeah, because conservatives never cite the Constitution as our guiding document and we never speak of taking our country back. Unless there's a black guy in office. First time "the Constitution" has really come up in presidential politics, really.
Maybe Obama's health-care plan is an awful idea and his budget is way too big...Maybe.
...but how exactly is any of this unconstitutional? Clearly, for some folks, there's a deeper rage at the man occupying the White House.How's this for a deeper rage: It was obvious Obama was a man of the left who always intended to take the country in an unprecedented veer to the left, but for two years he ran as a "moderate" and the supposedly nonpartisan media covered for his constant transparent lies. Maybe that accounts for the "deeper rage."
I do think we all need to be careful about tarring the critics with a broad brush....And so I will now tar his critics with that broad brush. But carefully.
Dissent is an essential element of America's DNA. Civil rights protesters transformed the country. Protesters helped turn the country against the wars in Vietnam and Iraq. The majority of those digging in against Obama's policies sincerely believe that he is moving the country in the wrong direction. Still, there is an ugly undercurrent out there. Yes, some on the right tried to delegitimize Bill Clinton as well -- remember the garbage linking him to drug trafficking and murder? -- but this is dark and personal in a much more unsettling way.Dark and personal in much more unsettling way? What? More unsettling than accusing Bill Clinton of multiple murders? More personal than accusing Bill and/or Hillary Clinton of murdering their friend and confidant Vince Foster? Darker, more personal, and more unsettling than that? Are you sure, Howie? Or are you so protective of Captain Wonderful you cry like a bitch when someone doesn't cover his mouth quickly enough when sneezing in the presence of His Worshipfulness?
What other president -- with a Hawaii birth certificate, no less -- would be subjected to conspiratorial doubts about whether he was born in this country?He focuses on the particulars of delegitimization there. Obviously, the Birth Certificate thing is new, and, by definition, a new thing is new and hasn't been tried/theorized before. But what he's really saying -- minus the particulars he carefully adds in to claim an unprecedented reaction -- is that no other president has been subject to such a brutal campaign of delegitimization before. He mentions Bill Clinton. Is there someone he maybe forgot? Maybe someone a bit more recent? Someone, maybe, of whom it was claimed he had "stolen" not one but two elections, the first time through some kind of covert Republican operation in Florida to strike black voters from the polls and befuddle Jewish voters into voting for Pat Buchanan, the second time through rigging the voting machines in Ohio? Really, Howie? No previous sustained efforts at delegitimization you can recall off-handedly?
Ah, well. If you can't recall previous efforts, then these efforts are unprecedented and it must all be about, as Jeneane Garafalo says, "hatin' on a black man as president." "Racism straight-up." Just like with that schvatze George Bush and his "uppity" Vice President Dick-Jamaal Cheney. It was entirely predictable we'd come to this pass, because the media has played the race card on Obama's behalf at every previous moment he was in political trouble. This is the second stage of dealing with loss: Anger. First came denial, simply pretending that Obama was as beloved in the country as he was in the country's newsrooms, and of pretending the Tea Parties didn't exist. Now they at last begin to apprehend they can't just wish the Bad Men away, and they get predictably, and puerilely, angry about it, and out comes the race card, yet again. Speaking of delegitimization -- has anyone ever noticed that when someone challenges a liberal, the media immediately begins savagely delegitimizing that challenge? They don't rebut the opposition -- they claim the opposition is motivated by hateful motives or is crazy or ignorant/stupid and therefore their claims needn't be addressed. We go through this every year or two. The moment the left begins to worry about its position in the country, the media wakes up and goes into a flood-the-zone 24/7 camapaign of not responding to/answering/rebutting/reporting the claims of the conservative opposition, but of delegitimzaing them as based on hatred or insanity or some other corrupt motive. And, the motive having been fashioned from thin air and swiftly chased away (as phantasms are easily dispelled, being nonexistent), they then pretend the opposition's actual arguments and facts have been rebutted and rubbished. Every two years, every year, every six months... depending on how much trouble a liberal is in. The media savages the right constantly, impugning motives and claiming, essentially, they have no right to say these things or think this way. First, before you will be recognized as full-fledged citizens, the media insists, you must prove to us you do not suffer from unapproved thought patterns, and as our evidentiary bar for that is very high, you can never satisfy us and thus never enter the public arena as full citizens of the United States of America. To be sure, they always claim the right too has the right to dissent -- in a "to be sure" paragraph -- after which they straight away say, as they always say, "But not in this particular case. This particular case is a special case, and you have no right to dissent in this case." Of course, they always feel that whatever situation we're in constitutes one of those special situations where the right cannot dissent legitimately. In theory, we have political rights. Hypothetically, we have the right to dissent. In a perfect world, we're permitted to speak. But in actual practice, whenever we attempt to exercise these rights, these rotten leftist bastards claim that in this particular case, we actually don't have that right. I'm still waiting for a choad-toking bastard like Howard Kurtz to say, "Generally, of course, the right has the right to dissent, and this case is no exception." But he never says that. They never say that. Every time we're beating the liberals -- and even when we're not beating them, but just making futile cases for ourselves -- it constitutes a Special Exceptional Case where we have no legitimate right to do so. Pic from Ed Driscoll, who has a new Silicon Graffiti video out, on the topic Is Conservativism Dead? PS: Whenever the Past-Tense Media wants to make the case that the Tea Party movement is racist, they start citing the signs. As they can only find one or two signs that are even arguably of a racist nature, they never fail to start including Obama=Hitler signs as proof of "racism." Every time. You can check and everything. Now, Obama=Hitler violates Godwin's Law, and it can be said to be too strident, but... racist? Racist how, precisely? Hitler's white. (And Obama's half-white.) Is the claim being made that to compare Obama to a white man is racist? Gee, that's funny. Because when we link him unfavorably to a black man, too -- such as his 20-year best friend and preacher of hate, or with his Truther Czar -- we're told that's racist, too. Is there anyone of any race whatsoever we're allowed to link Obama to in a disparaging manner without being called racist? How about Lenny Fuckin' Kravitz? He too is "post-racial." Is that the one guy we can link Obama too, or is that racist too, as it's too "on the nose"?
1 Yet more hope and change for your hopey changey enjoyment:
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2009 12:58 PM (RkRxq)
2 All Americans are racist. It's good to see the Democrats learning from their mistakes.
Posted by: Methos at September 15, 2009 12:59 PM (EMHaT)
3 And the race card gets dropped in 3, 2, 1........
Posted by: Mallamutt at September 15, 2009 12:59 PM (V9SYy)
4 You mean Cindy Sheehan doesn't have absolute moral authority? Doesn't absolute mean forever. I must be confused, or was that yesterday's excuse?
Posted by: 141Driver at September 15, 2009 01:02 PM (m+DLE)
5 Rush and Ace are on the same page this morning. He just played a montage of all the idiots in the MSM touting their Woe Is Me, conservatives are racists garbage.
On a brighter note, Obama's down to pre-speech levels on Gallup's approval poll just released: 52-41.
Posted by: Shooter McGavin at September 15, 2009 01:03 PM (cxGtL)
6 This kind of nonsense will only end when a major media outlet goes under. The Post, the NYT, the LAT, one of them has to leave existence before the media will change.
Posted by: chaos at September 15, 2009 01:04 PM (mFUln)
7 Kurtz used the word "dark."
Posted by: filbert at September 15, 2009 01:05 PM (oVl3l)
8 Some moron blogger should write about the mainstream media trying to foment a race war, and cite all these examples of kurtz and the like that have been stinking up the internet the last couple days.
Posted by: andreaSF at September 15, 2009 01:05 PM (QGr07)
9 So, if I dispise Howard Kurtz as much as I despise Teh Won, does it mean I'm a racist?
Posted by: The Butcher at September 15, 2009 01:06 PM (8g9qq)
10 Howard who?
Posted by: Dang Straights at September 15, 2009 01:06 PM (Haq+B)
11 Kurtz, meet Shark. Now jump, white boy.
Posted by: George Orwell at September 15, 2009 01:06 PM (AZGON)
12 What does he really mean by "Tarring"?
I think Kurtz is racist.
Posted by: Potosi Joel at September 15, 2009 01:07 PM (xyuma)
13 All-out race baiting and he has been in office less than 8 months. What's left for them? Really.
You can't reset a naked emperor.
Posted by: wHodat at September 15, 2009 01:07 PM (+sBB4)
14 I'm sure this cartoon about ACORN must be racist for the same reasons:
Posted by: CTR at September 15, 2009 01:08 PM (UfKln)
15 Kurtz is a tool - complete with batteries - for Obama in specific, and Lefty scum in general
There are three boxes for the people to use in addressing his lunacy and the campaign waged by the left against America for 40+ years ...
Ballot box ( hmmm, can you say ACORNfraud ?)
Soap box ( hmmm, can you say LeftMedia bias ? )
Cartridge box .... your move Pinkies. Consider carefully, gavnoyeds
Posted by: OhioDude at September 15, 2009 01:09 PM (XtjBe)
16 It's not just when conservatives challenge liberals; it's when conservatives are leading (like Reagan) and liberals challenge THEM. There's still no effort to address the conservatives' positions. The media are just interested in the personal attacks.
Posted by: Attila (Pillage Idiot) at September 15, 2009 01:09 PM (AhKHf)
17 can I start calling them mansonites yet?
they;re not going to let up until they create a race war in this country
the leftists want helter skelter comin down fast yeah
makes me feel like puking
Posted by: merkin at September 15, 2009 01:09 PM (z+72b)
18 Obviously, the Birth Certificate thing is new, and, by definition, a new thing is new and hasn't been tried/theorized before.
Wasn't their a kerfuffle over whether McCain was "native born" being born in the Panama Canal Zone? I thought it saw the Hill pass a law related to the issue. So that seems like a pot calling the kettle black grimy arse double standard for Howie on that line, too.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 15, 2009 01:09 PM (IRbsq)
19 So, Howie, let's get this straight: the fact that someone wants to see Obama's proof of citizenship is so outlandish, so transparently racist, that it could only happen to a black president?
Let's ask Sen. McCain about having to prove his eligibility to hold the office, then, shall we?
Posted by: Greg at September 15, 2009 01:10 PM (PgC12)
20 If shit were explosive, you could drop the contents of Howard Kurtz's head on Afghanistan and win the war.
Also, schvatze made me laugh. Nicely done, Ace.
Posted by: ATaLien at September 15, 2009 01:10 PM (SkRi5)
21 Kurtz is right, of course health care reform is constitutional. I mean just read the thing it says right there in Section...um, which section was that again? I could have sworn it said something about health care reform and individual mandates right where it mentions abortion.
Sorry, I can't find it. It's here somewhere. I'll get back to you in a minute.
Posted by: DrewM. at September 15, 2009 01:11 PM (ur6Ar)
22 But in actual practice, whenever we attempt to exercise these rights, these rotten leftist bastards claim that in this particular case, we actually don't have that right.
Which brings us to a point the liberals are never going to understand. Americans do not have rights because they are listed in the Constitution, though having them written down for everyone to see is very important. We do not have rights because God gave them to us and they are somehow magically impossible to take away-try to proselytize Christianity in Saudi Arabia or China (or within sight of the ACLU) and see how far 'I am an American citizen' gets you.
Americans have rights because we assert them against all who would take them from us, whenever they try to take them from us.
Posted by: Methos at September 15, 2009 01:11 PM (EMHaT)
23 Brilliant. It should be e-mailed to the Clymer.
Posted by: Date and timestamped at September 15, 2009 01:11 PM (1VDhP)
24 Racist = Critical Thinking. I'm fine with that, the stigma is off and people no longer cower in fear when that word is thrown around. Keep these coming from the media.
Posted by: Just Another Poster at September 15, 2009 01:12 PM (HAdov)
25 Don't forget chauvinist to Ace. You see not only do we only want a full on gov. take over of health care to be done by a whitepersonof European descent they have to be a man as well. I mean Hillary is lilly white but there is no way that I am going to accept my pure communism from a woman.
It's gotta be a white guy or I just can't get in line for it.
Posted by: Roadking at September 15, 2009 01:12 PM (im+nz)
26 Ahh shoot, I forgot to make it a clickable link. Sorry about that.
Posted by: CTR at September 15, 2009 01:12 PM (UfKln)
27 "but this is dark"
but this is DARK
but this is dark ?
Dark is a code-word for "black person."
RACISM! RACISM! RACISM! RACISM!
Howard Kurtz is a RACIST!
Posted by: Howard Kurtz = RACIST at September 15, 2009 01:13 PM (AQj/2)
28 We are travelling down a dangerous road. I do believe the msm/O administration is purposefully fomenting a race war. This cannot end well, and someone better grow up real fast and unite this country or it will be lost. It may well be too late.
Posted by: Derak at September 15, 2009 01:13 PM (zyVlH)
29 What a lame-assed argument. Is this really the best the left can do? Oh no, they can't have a reasonable debate about issues or details, they have to act like spoiled six-year-olds and resort to name calling as their first and bestest defense.
I hope they can keep it up. The rest of America will start to see that everything in their reality-challenged universe revolves around race and nothing else.
Taxes too high = racist.
Government corruption = racist
Appeasement of our enemies = racist
Global warming's a hoax = racist
Sun rising in eastern sky = racist
Can the left get any more pathetic? Sadly, yes. Will they start sounding like the little boy who cried "wolf" and be ignored? Soon, very soon.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 15, 2009 01:13 PM (ZGhSv)
30 Well if they're going to call us racist for dissenting, then by Mohammed we'll just call them something back. Like socialist. Oh crap, I forgot. They said we can't say that because...it's racist.
Hey Ace, howzabout a contest? We need a non-racial invective. I suggest "Pussies". Nothing racial there, what could they object to.
Posted by: chuck at September 15, 2009 01:14 PM (+2gfc)
31 Shark. Jumped. What the hell? Birth issues unprecedented? Race? What else is left in the rhetorical quiver?
New category, stupidly stupid.
Time for a little feedback to Mr. Kurtz.
Posted by: joeindc44 at September 15, 2009 01:15 PM (QxSug)
32 Howard Kurtz like most of the Lefts sychophants are in unision, The New but not new thing is to call everyone that disagrees a hater and racist, this has been happening since Dems elections with Hillarys constituents, Let's refuse to be played.
Posted by: willow at September 15, 2009 01:15 PM (1kwr2)
33 I think you're definitely right about the anger being generated from the media's refusal to cover Obama's actual history, platform, stances, associates, etc. The only chant, the protest in D.C on Saturday was able to sustain for any length of time (unlike the leftists, conservatives/tea partyers aren't apparently big on chanting slogans) was as we marched past the Newseum, saying, "Where is the Media?"
Posted by: DKShideler at September 15, 2009 01:15 PM (kb2q5)
34 DrewM: Get with the times. It's not in one of the written sections. It's in one of the several video and interactive addenda to the Constitution, and is copiously footnoted and cross references with Things Jefferson Said: The Wholly Complete Volume from Beyond the Grave.
Posted by: mr.frakypants at September 15, 2009 01:16 PM (PonvG)
35 I will give them that part of the animosity (more like frustration) for me is racial.
A very cynical marxist was put into power by people who wanted to do the "right" thing and participate in a "historical" election.
I really hope that this causes blacks to examine their own political identities. There is something truly wrong when 90%+ of a particular race/ethnic group votes for one party in a two party system.
Posted by: blackrockmarauder at September 15, 2009 01:17 PM (8Ipnv)
36 Some moron blogger should write about the mainstream media trying to foment a race war, and cite all these examples of kurtz and the like that have been stinking up the internet the last couple days.
Posted by: andreaSF at September 15, 2009 01:05 PM (QGr07)
The media already did that once. The Rodney King riots which ensued when the media played the edited tape 30 times a night for 6 freaking months. The riots killed over 50 people and were a direct result of the media's community agitating.......
Posted by: LGoPs at September 15, 2009 01:18 PM (v/rEn)
Kurtz? ... Is that Col. Kurtz somewhere in Southeast Asia?
'Cause right now I'm drawing a blank.
Posted by: memomachine at September 15, 2009 01:19 PM (HGQC4)
38 DKShideler at September 15, 2009 01:15 PM (kb2q5)
I would agree, the furor is coming alot from the Medias refusal toplay Honestly, and now many of us are realizing it where we hadn't until 9-11. when manyof us paid attention to news to news for the first time.
to see the reality of our media being used as propaganda was really devastating.
This becomes a part of it, when we are mislead, they didn't count on us waking up and aknowledging it, and being angry.
Posted by: willow at September 15, 2009 01:23 PM (1kwr2)
39 Whoa, man! These shrooms are good, man! Everything is all centered and italicized, man!
Posted by: runninrebel at September 15, 2009 01:23 PM (i3PJU)
40 When I look at Obama I don't see a black man, I see a fucking commie.
Posted by: dan in michigan at September 15, 2009 01:23 PM (88w67)
41 This post makes me feel slanted, yet oddly centered.
Posted by: joncelli at September 15, 2009 01:23 PM (RD7QR)
42 Alright class. Some of us seem to think that some on the left are trying to foment a race war. If that's the case, then there must be something that they hope to accomplish by doing so. My guess would be - martial law and suspension of the constitution. Your guess?
Posted by: teej at September 15, 2009 01:24 PM (c459z)
43 The media is the enemy. I would love to see someone dig up dirt on all the media personalities. In the same manner they specialize in on their opponents.
Enough dirt to shame them out of the human race.
Follow the advice of that sage, Harvey Logan - "There ain't no rules in a knifefight"
Posted by: LGoPs at September 15, 2009 01:24 PM (v/rEn)
44 Well, #10 and #37 beat me to it, but, who the hell is Kurtz anyway? You are frequenting unsavory media sources.
Posted by: iowavette at September 15, 2009 01:25 PM (0JTac)
45 If you decide not to have healthcare insurance or if you have private insurance that is not deemed “acceptable” to the “Health Choices Administrator” appointed by Obama there will be a tax imposed on you. It is called a “tax” instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment. However, that doesn’t work because since there is nothing in the law that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax, it is definitely depriving someone of property without the “due process of law.
Posted by: harleycowboy at September 15, 2009 01:25 PM (U8gb+)
46 Whoa, man! These shrooms are good, man! Everything is all centered and italicized, man!
Posted by: runninrebel at September 15, 2009 01:23 PM (i3PJU)
heh, I kept thinking it was me and wine.
Posted by: willow at September 15, 2009 01:25 PM (1kwr2)
47 Damn you Captain Italics
Posted by: wHodat at September 15, 2009 01:26 PM (+sBB4)
48 Ace.. Tag this posting.
You'll be able to save time and re-run it every 6 months or so.. As needed.
Even the Howard Kurtz quote's wont need to be changed.
Posted by: Barack Obama's Toolbag at September 15, 2009 01:26 PM (La0Tt)
49 But I began to suspect that race was a factor for at least some critics when I heard them shouting about "the Constitution" and "taking our country back."
Wasn't "Take It Back" the title of a James Carville book? "It" meaning "our country."
Posted by: Brewdog at September 15, 2009 01:27 PM (jg+Fr)
50 Damn italics made me forget my sockpuppet was still on.
Posted by: Dave C at September 15, 2009 01:27 PM (La0Tt)
51 Hey Pixie, hows about fixing this italics stuff so I don't have toput my glasses on to read the posts.
Posted by: teej at September 15, 2009 01:28 PM (c459z)
52 funny that asking for what our forfathers implemented as the founding for America, is now racist.
Posted by: willow at September 15, 2009 01:28 PM (1kwr2)
53 36 LGoPs Yes, you're right.
Posted by: andreaSF at September 15, 2009 01:29 PM (QGr07)
54 My neck hurts from leaning sideways. make it stop.
Posted by: wHodat at September 15, 2009 01:29 PM (+sBB4)
55 Ace is so right wing that he can't even left-justify his postings!
Posted by: Stirner at September 15, 2009 01:30 PM (P/sg0)
"Sorry, I can't find it. It's here somewhere. I'll get back to you in a minute."
Drew, the problem is that you're not looking at the Extended Edition of the Constitution - you know, the one with all of the emanations and penumbrae. Of course, you may have a problem finding a copy, since it's distributed only to liberals ...
Posted by: Brown Line at September 15, 2009 01:31 PM (VrNoa)
57 Hey Ace! Try fixing the last tag on your post, you've got the whole thing fucked up with italics. You need to put in one of these "<" right before the slash thingy.
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at September 15, 2009 01:32 PM (6ZPfw)
58 The media is the enemy. I would love to see someone dig up dirt on all the media personalities. In the same manner they specialize in on their opponents.
Enough dirt to shame them out of the human race.
Follow the advice of that sage, Harvey Logan - "There ain't no rules in a knifefight"
Posted by: LGoPs at September 15, 2009 01:24 PM (v/rEn)
I don't know that this is a bad idea.
Posted by: willow at September 15, 2009 01:32 PM (1kwr2)
59 Obama calling West a jackass for his antics at the VMA's, using present standards of deliniation and definition, pretty much has to be racist.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2009 01:32 PM (RkRxq)
60 Your guess?
They think they'll win.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 15, 2009 01:33 PM (IRbsq)
61 The heat in the kitchen recognizes no race, creed, religion, age or sex.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 15, 2009 01:34 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at September 15, 2009 01:35 PM (oMgAh)
63 When Obama called Kanye West a jackass he was just referring to the fact that he's a Democrat......
Posted by: LGoPs at September 15, 2009 01:35 PM (v/rEn)
64 Yes! Yes! Keep draining the word of meaning. More editorials like this!
Posted by: Farmer Joe at September 15, 2009 01:35 PM (z4es9)
65 As is nearly always true, you are spot on Ace. Now take a break from the hard (hee hee) stuff and let's abuse Andy some more! His hypocrisy is at an all-time high and "if you can't kick a man when he's down, you don't deserve to kick him".
Posted by: dfbaskwill at September 15, 2009 01:35 PM (7Gs5S)
66 This is one of the best takedowns I've ever read. Thank you Ace. Posts like this renew my faith in common sense.
Posted by: Paradigm Shift at September 15, 2009 01:37 PM (D7UaL)
67 Now take a break from the hard (hee hee) stuff and let's abuse Andy some more!
I don't know. It can be dangerous to attack a pothead.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 15, 2009 01:38 PM (IRbsq)
68 I'm pretty sure that broken HTML is racist.
Posted by: reason at September 15, 2009 01:39 PM (V40IZ)
69 Sometimes Kurtz puts up an interesting column. Using the Way Back Machine, the following linked column (April, 2009) gives an idea of how insidious the current MSM-Administration arrangement really is. LINK
I wonder, do the Atlantic's dinner parties still continue?
On a related note, considering the ease with which the Obama Administration has suborned large corporations (auto, tire, financial, pharmaceutical) with stacked board of directors, czar-oversight, etc., etc. , should conservatives reconsider opposing some portions of McCain-Feingold? At least for the short term?
Posted by: mrp at September 15, 2009 01:40 PM (HjPtV)
70 YSM (Yellow Stream Media) gives credance to totally unpredictable (no really) UN report branding Israel's self defense a
WAR CRIME! DA DA DA DAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2009 01:40 PM (RkRxq)
71 Yes, and we all oppose Marx because he is Russian.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at September 15, 2009 01:41 PM (W44cZ)
72 71 Or German. But whatever!
Posted by: runninrebel at September 15, 2009 01:42 PM (i3PJU)
73 @ #60
They think they'll win.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 15, 2009 01:33 PM (IRbsq) -
No way. They can't be that stupid!
Posted by: teej at September 15, 2009 01:43 PM (c459z)
74 Psst. Or a Joo.
Posted by: Fritz at September 15, 2009 01:45 PM (GwPRU)
75 Racist is now an emoticon. It's the literal equivalent of sticking out one's tongue.
Have a nice day.
Posted by: MarkD at September 15, 2009 01:45 PM (MMy4A)
76 From 2001-2009 every single thing President Bush did was questioned and criticized by the liberal democrats in this country. Every single thing. The results of BOTH of Bush's elections were called into question by the very same people. They politicized a war to delegitimize the President.
I've said it before: The libs made this world where the President's actions are scrutinized to the microscopic level and literally everything the President does is questioned and critisized. They can now live in it. And I will smile because "Racists!!" is all they have t fall back on.
Posted by: kefka at September 15, 2009 01:47 PM (udoJ3)
77 Stupid, dishonest, monumentally suggestible, paranoid, bat-shit crazy...
You're 52% right.
Posted by: VJay at September 15, 2009 01:48 PM (gQ+XA)
78 Racist is now an emoticon. It's the literal equivalent of sticking out one's tongue.
This is what I'm saying. Pretty soon, it's going to be like this:
A: Have a good one.
B: you too.
And personally, I can't wait to see that day.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at September 15, 2009 01:49 PM (z4es9)
79 They don't appear to understand that folks aren't buying their racial guilt nonsense to the degree they previously might have. The ones who voted for Obama because of it are beginning to understand that the media wasn't square with them on Obama's past and his goals. The ones who knew the truth already doesn't listen to the media. Flogging the same old same old that it's racism to oppose him (I heard Campbell Brown tossing this out last night while ignoring the argument made by an organizer about the Bush hatred-why that is much less sinister than criticizing an AA)
Posted by: ed at September 15, 2009 01:52 PM (Urhve)
80 In theory, we have political rights. Hypothetically, we have the right to dissent. In a perfect world, we're permitted to speak.
Which reminds me of an interview in the early 90s during the breakup of the former Yugoslavia when Serbs were attacking each of the other republics in succession who askedthe US for help. The response was 'what's in it for us?' (remember this was during the Clinton administration). After the Europeans proved to be completely inadequate the US eventually had to do something regardless of the cost.
And that is the nub of the people's reponsein this case as well 'what's in it for us?' Obviously nothing. American people are very practical, they want to know if their hard earned are being put to a good use. Obama is like the Europeans in 1990s - inadequate - which means that the American people will eventually have to pony up and at this juncture they are simply making sure that the cost is contained in some way that Kurtz cannot fathom. Now, who is the idiot?
Posted by: Decaf at September 15, 2009 01:55 PM (0Vl/B)
81 I'm basically a one trick pony. That's because I'm simple minded. A none-too-bright sheep that regurgitates brain-dead, leftist propaganda.
A useful idiot, if you will. And not terribly useful at that.
Posted by: gharbzadegi, erg, whatever at September 15, 2009 01:56 PM (A/1+S)
82 And gharbzadegi weighs in with brilliant and witty comment.
Great post, again, Ace.
Posted by: nikkolai at September 15, 2009 01:59 PM (+Y6We)
83 Isn't it going to be harder to make the case for the racism of the tea parties when you have the sterling examples of Kanye West, Serena Williams and the Belleville bus beating in the news? They aren't related in any way, shape or form to Obama but it's hard to gin up much racial guilt with them in the news.
Posted by: ed at September 15, 2009 01:59 PM (Urhve)
84 Compliments on the fisking, Ace. It's a beautful thing.
Posted by: the real joe at September 15, 2009 02:03 PM (gue3j)
85 How about Lenny Fuckin' Kravitz? He too is "post-racial." Is that the
one guy we can link Obama too, or is that racist too, as it's too "on
Can we please NOT link Lenny Kravitz to Mr. Obama? Lenny Kravitz is smmmmmmmokin' hot, and the president . . . not so much.
Posted by: VKI at September 15, 2009 02:04 PM (LZK9H)
86 Good Great post.
...not enough profanity laced phrasing though.
Posted by: davis,br at September 15, 2009 02:07 PM (uCShA)
87 The big secret is, the Demonrats are products of a long line of Racist Idiology. But don't tell them that, this is too much fun.
Once had a friend of mine, who got his PhD in Psycology, tell me that it is not possible for a Minorty population to be Racist. The thinking here is, that the Minority population has legitmate reasons for being angry, and the Majority population holds down the Minority, simply because of fear. In other words, if you are part of the Majority population than youhave to be a Racist. Since, Racism is learned, it explains (at least in the mind of Insane Leftists) that the Minority population is the Minority population because they have been purposely held down.The only solution is that the Majority population hand over complete control to the Minority popluation. All other solutions are void.
Isn't everyone just giddy how our tax dollars get spent in the Public and University Education Systems?
Posted by: Jimi at September 15, 2009 02:07 PM (fqxV7)
88 #71 Yes, and we all oppose Marx because he is Russian.
No, he was a German living in London when he wrote the Communist Manifesto.
Posted by: Decaf at September 15, 2009 02:10 PM (0Vl/B)
89 71 Or German. But whatever!
I thought we hated Karl because he lived in London?
Posted by: andycanuck at September 15, 2009 02:13 PM (IRbsq)
90 A guy ask me one time why I didn't like college towns.
"Too many educated idiots."
Posted by: harleycowboy at September 15, 2009 02:16 PM (JKGfQ)
91 Very busy here, about to fly to Paris on the Concorde for business; just taking time to type on my solid-platinum laptop that you're a bunch of stupid wingers not grateful for your tax credit. Stupid. Wingers.
Now go back to your pathetic stupid wingery. Stupid.
Posted by: Honest Clone at September 15, 2009 02:16 PM (ERJIu)
92 Let's have a vote on a new rule:
Those that first mention, and continue to raise, race as a discussion point, threat, and characterization, are the racists.
Can I have a show of hands?
Posted by: steve at September 15, 2009 02:23 PM (UPLmD)
93 Q: What do you call an African-American baseball player in Cincinnati?
A: A Red. (None of the rest matters.)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 15, 2009 02:27 PM (Vl5GH)
94 Those tea partiers are so racist that they vote, like, 95% for white people.
No, that was black folks.
Well, anyway ... it just proves that white tea partiers are racist.
Posted by: Warden at September 15, 2009 02:28 PM (KXbGD)
95 A guy ask me one time why I didn't like college towns.
"Too many educated idiots."
Tell me about it. The University of Oregon is in my town. Talk about your nincompoops.
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 15, 2009 02:32 PM (TnUnj)
96 A bit more amateur psychology: this is projection. Kurtz supports Obama so strongly because of Obama's race. He's protecting Obama because he, Kurtz, is the racist. He "reasons" that opponents of Obama must be racially-motivated too.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 15, 2009 02:32 PM (UjGCP)
97 Effin En Fuego!, just effin En Fuego.
Take no damn prisoners.
Posted by: that guy that shouts enfuego, posting from Dallas at September 15, 2009 02:32 PM (OQLwJ)
98 So, because Maureen Down (and Bill Maher) react to things through the racist prism through which they see life, I, by extension, am racist too? Hogwash!
From the article:
"Fair or not, what I heard was an unspoken word in the air: You lie, boy!"
News outlets abbreviate headlines so that that can print them in the same space using larger fonts all the time. Has Ms. Dowd not been apprised of this innovation? The fact that she chooses to impute some racist motive to others as well as the fact that this is the first thing that occurs to her reveal only the darkness in her heart, not mine. Liberal whites who must be the first to cry racist in order to prove their bona fides to the minority community are the most despicable people of all.
Oh shit, was I subliminally insulting Hispanics there as well? Bugger off Howie, Maureen and the lot of you.
Posted by: SeattleSE at September 15, 2009 02:34 PM (Lx8lc)
99 Can I have a show of hands?
Posted by: harleycowboy at September 15, 2009 02:35 PM (JKGfQ)
Why yes, I suppose I must be. I'm so racist that in 2004, I voted for the other guy rather than The One.
Oh no! I just realized: I voted for a guy who is blacker than Obama! Whatever will I tell the Grand Wizard at the next Klavern?
(and merely for those who need it)
Posted by: Gen. Sir Harry Flashman, VC at September 15, 2009 02:38 PM (CT9Pi)
101 Ace, there is a new birther controversy; this time the birthers may have hit pay dirt.
Check out this article: :http://www.canadafreepress.com/2009/williams091209.htm
This Canada Free Press article alleges that the DNC produced two Presidential Candidate certification letters to be sent to the State Election Commissions. One, which was sent apparently only to Hawaii, has language that states that Obama meets the qualifications in the constitution to be President. The other letter which appears to have gone out to all the other states does not have any language that states that Obama meets the constitutional qualifications. The letters are exactly the same, except that one omits the qualification language. Each was signed and notarized by DNC officials including Nancy Pelosi.
If true, this amounts to a conspiracy to deceive the American Public, and while it may not take down our anointed Savior, it will definitely slam the Democrats.
Posted by: Paul at September 15, 2009 02:40 PM (+AHX2)
102 What other president -- with a Hawaii birth certificate, no less --
would be subjected to conspiratorial doubts about whether he was born
in this country?
Umm... Chester A. Arthur?
Do I get a prize for remembering history?
Posted by: cinyc at September 15, 2009 02:52 PM (036gn)
103 My non-white Dick Kurtz reading this.
Posted by: TexasJew at September 15, 2009 02:54 PM (aUsM0)
I didn't know that Chester A. Arthur was born in Hawaii!
I thought he was Canadian.
Posted by: TexasJew at September 15, 2009 02:57 PM (aUsM0)
105 How about Lenny Fuckin' Kravitz? He too is "post-racial." Is that the
one guy we can link Obama too, or is that racist too, as it's too "on
No, you can not. Mr. Kravitz is half Jooooo and Obama is not. Ergo, racist.
Posted by: MSM at September 15, 2009 03:02 PM (2NQoP)
106 Canadian or Scottish or whatever - the theory evolved over time... but not born in the United States, or so opponents claimed. Someone even wrote a book about it back in the day.
But conspiracy theories are new things that just started magically appearing in the Age of Obama. Must be because he's an African-American.
I hear fire can't melt steel, by the way - so 9/11 must have been an inside job perpetrated by Obama... no wait... he wasn't President then? Oh!
Posted by: cinyc at September 15, 2009 03:05 PM (036gn)
107 94 Let's have a vote on a new rule:Those that first mention, and continue to raise, race as a discussion point, threat, and characterization, are the racists.Can I have a show of hands?
Discrimination against people with no hands!!!!
Posted by: harleycowboy at September 15, 2009 03:08 PM (JKGfQ)
108 Ace lets go a 450' shot to straight away center field. A thing of beauty.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 15, 2009 03:09 PM (1hM1d)
109 Excellent post Ace! Cheers!
Which brings us to a point the liberals are never going to understand.
Americans do not have rights because they are listed in the
Constitution, though having them written down for everyone to see is
very important. We do not have rights because God gave them to us and
they are somehow magically impossible to take away-try to proselytize
Christianity in Saudi Arabia or China (or within sight of the ACLU) and
see how far 'I am an American citizen' gets you.Americans have rights because we assert them against all who would take them from us, whenever they try to take them from us.Posted by: Methos at September 15, 2009 01:11 PM (EMHaT)
Excellent synopsis Methos! Cheers also!
Posted by: The Drunken Conservative at September 15, 2009 03:20 PM (iaWNX)
110 "Liberal whites who must be the first to cry racist in order to prove their bona fides to the minority community are the most despicable people of all. "Thanks, Howard. You'll find no hypocricy in WP's distribution area. You make me feel so much better about residing inside the Beltway, butfar away from the District line and the outer reaches of PG County, MD. Those rural plebes, what biggots!
Posted by: WaPo Reader at September 15, 2009 03:26 PM (V8pGW)
111 Why can't we all get along and support Barack Obama?
Posted by: King Rodney at September 15, 2009 03:28 PM (ocHBO)
112 Speaking of delegitimization -- has anyone ever noticed that when
someone challenges a liberal, the media immediately begins savagely
delegitimizing that challenge? They don't rebut the opposition -- they
claim the opposition is motivated by hateful motives or is crazy or
ignorant/stupid and therefore their claims needn't be addressed.
Christopher Hitchens, on Orwell, in the Atlantic Monthly (before it went completely down the tubes):
"I think Hannah Arendt said that one of the great achievements of Stalinism was to replace all discussion involving arguments and evidence with the question of motive. If someone were to say, for example, that there are many people in the Soviet Union who don't have enough to eat, it might make sense for them to respond, 'It's not our fault, it was the weather, a bad harvest or something.' Instead it's always, 'Why is this person saying this, and why are they saying it in such and such a magazine? It must be that this is part of a plan.' [...]"
Posted by: Alex at September 15, 2009 03:30 PM (1z+BO)
113 OK, so I finally got around to reading this ... Every sentence of every page is offensive. I can't even begin to dissect it like Ace is able to. I will say this, though: I noticed in this piece, and in many others this year, that it is en vogue again to denigrate Southerners and The South as if we were still in Reconstruction.
Posted by: Girl Thursday at September 15, 2009 03:39 PM (I/RcZ)
114 I'm not racist, I only hate obama's white half.
Posted by: Douglas at September 15, 2009 04:00 PM (uU+Ss)
115 "Schvarze" you meshugha shiksa moron.
Posted by: Hucklebuck at September 15, 2009 04:15 PM (oQLnX)
116 I sent Kurtz the following e-mail:
I was very disappointed in some of the conclusions you seem to reach in your most recent column entitled "A Black or White Question".
Please note that I am an avid reader of your column, I enjoy watching "Reliable Sources" when I can and I even follow you on Twitter. I sincerely respect your ability to honestly look at both sides of an issue and, if necessary, criticizethe media when it is deserved. So, I would hope that you do not simply shrug this e-mail off as coming from some one with an agenda.
I like to consider myself a political independent. I vote for both Democrats and Republicans that I believe are deserving of my vote.I did not attend the recent Washington D.C. protests. However, I too am deeply concerned with President Obama's agenda (both foreign and domestic) and can certainly sympathize with many that were involved with such protests.
However, your column really struck a nerve. What you are, essentially, saying (or implying)is that there are racists in America(of course)and that racism is fuelingthese protests.
I am really, really tired of hearing people complain that all or, as you imply, "some" of the people that are opposed to President Obama are racists or, at the very least, driven by some subconscious racism. Certainly, I am sure that there are skinheads/neo-nazis and members of the Aryan Nation that may be motivated by a deep racism (did you see any of them at the D.C. protest or any of the tea parties? No? last time I checked, they tended to not be too shy about their white pride).
However, don't you understand how horrible it is to place Obama's political opponents in the same group? Don't you understand how this association deligitimizes or discourages legitimate dissent?
In your article you indicate that you"began to suspect that race was a factor for at least some critics when I heard them shouting about 'the Constitution' and 'taking our country back'".That is funny. I would have never, in a million years, attributed racial meanings to such words...I was surprised that you came to such a conclusion. Those words, in my opinion, could more easily be interpreted to refer to a person's uneasiness with a totally Democratic controlled govenrment or the rapid expansion of goverment power. Such comments are certainly not new to political speech. In fact, I remember - for the past 8 years - hearing Democrats complain about Bush/Cheney and their supposed apathy for (if not wanton disregard of)the Constitution.
Yes, you pay homage to dissent being "an essential element of America's DNA", but then you persist in your argument that there is some undercurrent of rage due to racism that is fueling this opposition.
You may disagree and believe that Obama's policies are not infringements of the Constitution, but does that mean " Clearly, for some folks, there's a deeper rage at the man occupying the White House." Imean, seriously... are we now saying that the Constitution is off-limits in political discussion? Maybe - just maybe - the "rage" comes from opposition to his policies (or anger that we, as voters, are not getting the moderate Democrat we were told that he was throughout the campaign and, instead, are getting a very liberal Democrat) and not from some secret desire to join the Klu Klux Klan.
You, of course, pay lipservice tosome of the deligitimization that Clintonfaced, but somehow you believe that theopposition to Obamais much more "dark and personal" and unsettling. Sorry, but that is ridiculous. If anything, Clinton and Bush faced much more dark, personal and "unsettling" attacks.
Obama being called a "socialist" pales in comparison to the attacks faced by both Clinton and Bush. Clinton was accused of murdering his friend, Vince Foster, and other political opponents by nutjobs on the right. Deligitimization? Clinton was impeached!!! Democrats contested the 2000 election andhave been claiming for 8 years that Bush had, in fact, stolen two (2) elections!!! Democrats claimed that Bush was elected due to Republican voter fraud and thug-like tactics to prevent minority voting. Remember "selected, not elected". "not my president" and such other slogans from the Democrats? Democrats accused Bush of lying and misleading the Congress and the country with respect to Iraq. Bush was accused of war crimes. Harry Reid called Bush a "loser" and a "liar" - which is nothing compared to the way Bush was regarded by the left (warmonger, war criminal, liar, Hitler etc.).
Of course, who can forget those conspiracy theorists (the "truthers") who believe Bush and Cheney orchestrated 9/11? Saying that the President, in cold blood, murdered 3,000 Americans...isn't that a bit unsettling?
If you think what Obama has faced is bad, then you clearly have a selective memory for what Clinton and Bush both had to face. Perhaps, because it supports the "story" that the media seems to be looking for (and, of course, Democrats are only too willing to push).
President Obama and his supporters should be wary of constantly pulling the race card to discredit or delegitimize legitimate political dissent. If anything, constantly crying wolf with respect to racism will render the public apathetic when real instances of racism emerge.
Posted by: Mark Green at September 15, 2009 04:37 PM (xeTBZ)
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