1 Rand called them looters. They are literally looting the Treasury.

2

The still @ 0:28...

 

Awesome.

3 Yeah, the MSM originally said ' a couple thousand' which later morphed to "tens of thousands"....they just can't say the word MILLION.

4 Someone really needs to make one of those Hitler Downfall youtube videos for this.

5 Uncle Jimbo, I think I'm in loooooove!

6

great vid, MKH rox!

 

7 Parliment of whores. Love it.

8

Wow, that is awesome.  I heard the "official estimate" was like 600,000 on
Beck.  That looked like more than a million to me.  If the Democrats ignore this and try to cram nationalized healthcare down our throats, they do so at their own peril.  I went to my little local tea party out in Redmond, WA.  We got there late as it was winding down cause my husband and I had to run a 20 miler first.  There was a 90 year old man there holding up a sign.  On one side it said "I am not a clunker" and the other side said "I'm 90 years old, let me live!"  We got a lot of positive honking and thumbs up, but there were also people who were pissed off and giving us the finger (driving very nice cars, I might add!)   Anyways, I am so proud of America!  OK, gotta run and go to church--D'nesh D'Souza is speaking this a.m.

9 Good job Jimbo.

O/T, a bunch of prominent politicos (including Sarah Palin, Bill Kristol, Ryan Crocker, and even David Frum) are taking your side on Afghanistan:

The Honorable Barack Obama
President of the United States
The White House
Washington, DC

Dear Mr. President:

The situation in Afghanistan is grave and deteriorating. This is in part the legacy of an under resourced war effort that has cost us and the Afghans dearly. The Taliban has retaken important parts of the country, while a flawed U.S. strategy has led American forces into secondary efforts far away from critical areas. However, we remain convinced that the fight against the Taliban is winnable, and it is in the vital national security interest of the United States to win it.

You’ve called Afghanistan an "international security challenge of the highest order, " and stated that "the safety of people around the world is at stake." Last month you told a convention of veterans, “Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again. If left unchecked, the Taliban insurgency will mean an even larger safe haven from which al Qaeda would plot to kill more Americans. So this is not only a war worth fighting. This is fundamental to the defense of our people.”

We fully agree with those sentiments. We congratulate you on the leadership you demonstrated earlier this year when you decided to deploy approximately 21,000 additional troops and several thousand civilian experts as a part of a serious counterinsurgency campaign. Your appointments of General Stanley McChrystal as top commander and David Rodriguez as second in command in Afghanistan exemplified the seriousness of purpose you spoke about during the campaign. We are heartened to see that the much needed overhaul of our military operations has begun.

Since the announcement of your administration’s new strategy, we have been troubled by calls for a drawdown of American forces in Afghanistan and a growing sense of defeatism about the war. With General McChrystal expected to request additional troops later this month, we urge you to continue on the path you have taken thus far and give our commanders on the ground the forces they need to implement a successful counterinsurgency strategy. There is no middle course. Incrementally committing fewer troops than required would be a grave mistake and may well lead to American defeat. We will not support half-measures that repeat the errors of the past.

This is, as you have said, a war that we cannot afford to lose. Failure to defeat the Taliban would likely lead to a return of al Qaeda to Afghanistan and could result in terrorist attacks on the United States or our allies. An abandonment of Afghanistan would further destabilize the region, and put neighboring Pakistan and its nuclear arsenal at risk. All our efforts to support Islamabad’s fight against the Taliban in Pakistan’s tribal regions will founder if we do not match those achievements on the other side of that country’s porous northwestern border.

As you observed during the 2008 U.S. presidential campaign, “You don't muddle through the central front on terror and you don't muddle through going after bin Laden. You don't muddle through stamping out the Taliban.” We completely agree. Having “muddled through” in Afghanistan for years, this is no longer a politically, strategically, or morally sustainable approach.

Mr. President, you have put in place the military leadership and sent the initial resources required to begin bringing this war to a successful conclusion. The military leadership has devised a strategy that will reverse the errors of previous years, free Afghans from the chains of tyranny, and keep America safe. We call on you to fully resource this effort, do everything possible to minimize the risk of failure, and to devote the necessary time to explain, soberly and comprehensively, to the American people the stakes in Afghanistan, the route to success, and the cost of defeat.

With the continued bravery of our troops, and your continued full support for them and their command team, America and our allies can and will prevail in Afghanistan.

Sincerely,

Steve Biegun
Gary Bauer
Max Boot
Ellen Bork
Paul Bremer
Christian Brose
Debra Burlingame
Eliot A. Cohen
Ryan C. Crocker
Thomas Donnelly
Eric Edelman
William S. Edgerly
Jamie M. Fly
David Frum
Abe Greenwald
John Hannah
Pete Hegseth
Margaret Hoover
Thomas Joscelyn
Frederick W. Kagan
Robert Kagan
William Kristol
Tod Lindberg
Herbert London
Clifford May
Robert C. McFarlane
Joshua Muravchik
Andrew Natsios
Sarah Palin
Keith Pavlischek
Beverly Perlson
Danielle Pletka
John Podhoretz
Stephen Rademaker
Mitchell B. Reiss
Karl Rove
Jennifer Rubin
Randy Scheunemann
Gary Schmitt
Dan Senor
Ashley Tellis
Marc Thiessen
Daniel Twining
Peter Wehner
Kenneth Weinstein
Christian Whiton
Rich Williamson

10 One thing I find interesting about yesterday, and recent events is that they may be signaling the end of political parties as we know/knew them; the opposition to Obama is not being driven by the Republican Party; the GOP is, at best, an adjunct to the opposition; this is what the Internet, talk radio, and Twitter have wrought,

And this is a good thing.  It means that certain clueless politicians are about to be run over by a truck they barely saw coming.

11 Mr Waturi tells you all you need to understand the Obama interregnum.

12

I can hear Inigo Montoya saying to the MSM: "I do not think this word 'thousands' means what you think it means."

Another O/T: for all you haters out there, Obama is keeping another campaign promise.

Barack Obama starts US talks with 'axis of evil': North Korea and Iran

President Barack Obama has approved plans for the US to start direct talks with both North Korea and Iran, in a significant shift in policy.

The State Department said it would meet one-to-one with Pyongyang negotiators in an effort to persuade the reclusive Stalinist state to return to multilateral talks on dismantling its nuclear weapons programme.

Washington has also accepted a vague Iranian offer of talks on broad national security issues, even though Tehran refused to discuss its illicit atomic operations.

The US insisted it would raise Iranian’s nuclear activities in the meeting. "This may not have been a topic that they wanted to be brought up but I can assure that it's a topic that we'll bring up," said White House spokesman Robert Gibbs.

13 Needs more Mkat.

Also, the music at the end was perfect.

14 Ooh. Iran bukakkes Obama and we rush to the negotiating table, vowing to bring up a subject that they don't want brought up. They must be quaking in their boots. (Bukakke can be a transitive verb, can't it? Webster's New World is strangely silent.)

15 Ironic is a good word

16 Nice vid.

17 And the Stalinists in DC still don't give a rat's arse.  They as much said on the Sunday talk shows that they're "goin' it alone" on the vote.  I'm convinced they don't think there are going to be any more elections.

18 I like the Chaucer/Yiddish amalgam: "Parliament of Hoors"

19

1

Yep simply put they are looting the treasury. That is as plain as the nose on your face.

20 haha, Shuster has reported 30,000, which park officials responded was "generous". Wow, conservatives are even bigger exagerrators than the left. a lie like that would shame a decent person.

21 Good stuff, Uncle J! I wish I could have been there. I'm spending the rest of the day watching videos like yours.

22 First...just noticing how the music in the video is from Rage Against the Machine (no longer a band), a very radical left wing band who disagreed with anything that had to do with the right, even though they basically espoused being anti government just like the Tea Parties. The irony.

I would also like to tell everyone that we need to stop talking about the "main stream" media, the "elite" media, the "legacy" media and whatever else we call them. Why do we continue to give them voice? They do not get the ratings in any media form so obviously they don't have the viewership/readers so who gives a flying eff what they say or do? IGNORE them and they will go away. The more we give them voice by disagreeing and getting pissed off that they don't cover these events the more they will do it, the more they will feel empowered to do it, and the more they will feel like they have control.They don't. Blogs and online 24 second news sites (as opposed to 24 hour) are the new "elite." I know the blogs must have an enemy to gauge themselves against but still when we acknowledge their stories or arguments as legitimate they win. The best thing we have against these "elite" media and left wing blogs is the fact that most right/indy blogs out argue them. Which is why they love to do emotional appeal/ad hominem type arguments, they simply cant out argue. So ignore them, we know the truth, we know the true numbers, spread the truth.

We fell for this with the 2008 election. The news didn't cover Palin's huge gatherings of 10 to 20 thousand people, they reported low crowds, how she wasnt pulling the people or the votes...and people fell for it and I believe they eventually thought that she and McCain were not going to win and maybe decided that it was futile to vote. But if they had known the truth they would have felt emboldened to go out and vote and maybe we wouldn't be here trying to march on Washington.The "main stream" are now doing it again, downplaying the truth...I hope we are now smarter to know that we shouldn't take them seriously. This will happen in 2010 also, don't believe it. Ignore them. They will go away. I mean who watches CNN anyways?

23

I'm pasting this from C4P:

This is on Race42012:
http://tinyurl.com/lwpupz


Sarah Palin was without a doubt the unsaid queen of the 9/12 March. Of the many people I interviewed, about a dozen expressed solid support for a Palin candidacy, with all of the others at least open to supporting her.

Many were caught up in the fervor of Joe Wilson’s recent outburst. At moments, it seemed as if every other person was holding a “You Lie” sign. Joe Wilson, indeed, was a name I heard with much greater frequency than Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee (whose name crossed no one’s lips), and Tim Pawlenty. Floated names did include, however, Michele Bachmann, Mitt Romney, Sean Hannity, and Glenn Beck. But these were not serious propositions.

“All eyes are on Sarah Palin,” a man said. “Without her, McCain would have lost in a landslide.”

“Palin is from outside the Beltway. They hate her down here in D.C., and that’s why we need her,” one woman said to me.

“Quitting as governor was so smart,” another man said. “She got her leg out of a political beartrap. They were trying to sink her up in Alaska.”

Palin for President pins, shirts, and even signs were constant. Truly, she is their woman. And it’s hard to see that changing. Among those with whom I spoke who were committed to a candidate, she was the only name.who came up. Her anti-Washington credibility overwhelmed them.

“She has ethics and moral values, she’s pro-life, she knows what she stands for and she speaks with integrity.” She’s one of them.

24 They sort of had no clue, they thought the growing numbers of independents was a good thing, thinking we could be promised anything and tow the line.  What they did not mean is that independents are just that, independent and, as such, we vote not based on party loyalty or affiliation.  Sure, do we miss the perks that come with being a party insider, yeah but we keep our dignity in tact.  Heard from a few libs that "it was a bunch of old people who can't get used to an African American prez and went down to DC to whine about it, en masse.  No biggie, the prez told the folks at Target center, the true Americans, the bill is going through no matter what those folks in DC think they can do.  it's all good".   Can't tell you how many times I heard that yesterday.  It seems to have made no impression on them.  They say the bill will pass this week without any republican input.

25

WOW! JUST WOW!

 

26

Posted by: Mars at September 13, 2009 02:17 PM (jcIYN)

Shuster is a fucking liar and a propagandist leftard hack.  Go choke on a cock.

27 Yeah, Mars, the DC police said (as heard on a blotter) 1.2 million.  I'm sure they were totally making that up for our benefit.

28 #10

Yes, I've been saying something similar for months -- the paradigm is changing.

As of today, I'm not particularly worried about the Democrats "going it alone" on healthcare; if it isn't bluster, which I suspect it is, it's an act of self-immolation as it is bound to have long-term consequences which ripple out for decades.

We are not in the Obama Era -- that was a silly MSM meme, as was "we are all socialists."

We are in the Army of Davids era, and if the MSM and the major political parties do not recognize it, their demise will be even quicker than it would have been otherwise.  We are inside their OODA loop.

29

got a good laugh at think progress trying to call this racist they had a pic of a rebel flag and obama telling a bunch of middle eastern looking gents that he had cleared the way for them. 

sorry... not buying it.

30 Axe sez fine and dandy so many came to DC, won't make any difference, though, because those proles didn't represent most Americans.  I'd love to see 2010 be a real blood bath for the dems and not-my-president (figuratively, of course) and make Axe shove those words up his anus. 

31 Awesome.  Thanks Jimbo & MK for putting this together.  The grim reaper with the Obama's Healthcare Czar sign was my favorite sight on Constitution Avenue yesterday during the march.  I look forward to more of this coming out from the 9/12 March.

32 For the 1,000,000th time in my life, I'm proud of my country.

33 They say the bill will pass this week without any republican input.

Posted by: curious at September 13, 2009 02:22 PM (p302b)

What bill? H.R. 3200 doesn't have the votes and the won, for all his lies on the tube the other night,  hasn't even written one.

34 With all due respect, Mr Obama, go fuck yourself.

35

Where to get a reliable and honest "official" estimate of the crowd?  This "no crowd estimate was made" meme morphed into "D.C. Fire Department (!) estimates 60-70,000. I know that's B.S.  I used to live in the D.C. area and (1) the govt. routinely estimated the size of crowds downtown and (2) the overhead pictures indicate, I would say from experience, half a million as a bare minimum.

Fire department estimates? WTF? A buch of nice union jobs in a notoriously corrupt city that's a Democrat plantation. Oh yeah, I'm going to believe them.

Leftist boneheads are seizing on the erroneous attributing of a 2 million estimate to ABC.

No newspaper has said more than tens of thousands - that's what we've heard from the Washington Post, for example. Any D.C.-based reporter would know this is pure, bogus spin. Why can't these people do something creative and different for once, like do their jobs, for example.

36 14 Ooh. Iran bukakkes Obama and we rush to the negotiating table, vowing to bring up a subject that they don't want brought up. They must be quaking in their boots. (Bukakke can be a transitive verb, can't it? Webster's New World is strangely silent.)

Now we know how Obama maintains that youthful complexion - frequent facials from the Islamic Republic.

37

Since Newsweek is currently stating that babies are racist, imagine if there were a march of 1.2 million babies.

Newsweek just wants to abort all of them, I think.

38

Great video MKH & Uncle J!  Glad that you had a good time.  (Uncle Jimbo rendered speechless?  That's saying a whole lot. LOL)

 It was amazing to watch this unfold yesterday.  I'm tickled pink that the American people have woken up and want to take their Country back.  This movement is so awesome.  I wasn't able to attend yesterday although I did attend two Tea Parties in Austin and San Antonio last week.  The energy  and Patriotism was electrifying!  At each event so many people were talking about going to Washington for 9/12, that's when I knew the March on Washington Rally was going to be huge.

CSPAN has the video from the March in DC : http://ow.ly/p8Jl

 

39 haha, Shuster has reported 30,000, which park officials responded was "generous".

Go tell that lie to your innumerate buddies. No one here is going to buy it.

40 Someone connected with the tea party movement thinks there is nothing wrong with a photoshop depicting Obama as a witch doctor.  Therefore, anyone who is against further looting of the Treasury is a racist.

41

I'm bigger than Jesus.

 

There is no God but Charles Johnson.

42

haha, Shuster has reported 30,000, which park officials responded was "generous". Wow, conservatives are even bigger exagerrators than the left. a lie like that would shame a decent person.

No source, no cite and no one else is telling that lie. Damn, the weekend trolls are even more pathetic than the regular trolls.  Mars, have you one functioning brain cell working today.  And Mars...is the name in honor of  where the voices in your head tell you what to troll.

43

Where to get a reliable and honest "official" estimate of the crowd?

Posted by: Admiral Charles at September 13, 2009 03:04 PM (PB0gV)

Michele Malkin has some good info.

Based on the USA Today graphic and the pictures I've seen of the 9/12 crowd, I'd say 1.2 million is a fair estimate.

The Park Service stopped estimating crowds after the Million Man March but resumed it for Jug Ear's inauguration. I don't know if they made an estimate for yesterday's rally.

44 I wonder if the DC police would tell the truth.  They probably had no idea the 9/12 tsunami was coming to their city.

45 Proud to be a American

46 They say the bill will pass this week without any republican input.

Curious, if they do that, there could be a revolution, for real.

47 Wow.  I guess Dylan was right.  The Times They Are A'Changin'

48 the DC fire department is reporting 60,000 to 70,000.

49 you can find the link on abc news. I didn't feel like tiny url-ing it.

50 46 They say the bill will pass this week without any republican input.

Curious, if they do that, there could be a revolution, for real.   Posted by: obama is a traitor at September 13, 2009 03:57 PM (Qt4Y7)   ------------------------------- For the Democrats, it's a lose/lose situation. Fail to pass a bill, and they've started down to road to emasculation. Pass a bill, and get voted out.   They'll water it down, pass it, and declare victory.
 

51 Mars did you not read the comments where we discussed the reliability of the DC fire Department's estimate?  They were pretty much directed at you.

52

Who cares what ABC News reports? They're a bunch of liars.

53 Jenny Beth Martin, the organizer for the tea party yesterday, stated that there were over 450 buses that had arrived. That alone, not counting anyone else is more that 60-70,000 people. If every bus carried 40 people, times 450 is 180,000 people. Most buses carry at least 50 people. That's not counting all who drove, flew, or took the rails. The MSM is seriously lowballing this, they know it and are still doing nothing. Yellow journalism at its worst.

54 Posted by: Mars at September 13, 2009 04:06 PM (jcIYN)

Here's a timelapse you dumbfuck. You'll notice the National Mall is full. The National Park Service says that the National Mall holds 946,000 and the area directly in front of the Capitol holds 240,000. That's 1,186,00 people.
LOL, you're so pwn3d.

Go get your fuckin' shinebox bitch.

55 I would play Rage Against the Machine for the entire event just to piss off them off.  Tom Morello rages for the benefit of the machine.

56 48 the DC fire department is reporting 60,000 to 70,000.

Posted by: Mars at September 13, 2009 04:06 PM (jcIYN)

------

 So what? I used to live in the D.C. area. I've been to events downtown where the official crowd estimates didn't have a political angle.  I can tell from the overhead views it's got to be around half a million, bare minimum.

The fire department, for crying out loud. Washington D.C. is a corrupt Democrat plantation. A spokestool for an organization of unionized public employees there is not credible.

57 53 Bill R.: your math is off.  450 x 40 = 18,000 (another way to look at it is about half a thousand buses times 40 means about 20 thousand total people).

58

They'll water it down, pass it, and declare victory. 

And be the laughing stock of the entire planet.

We're witnessing what's described in Proverbs: "Pride comes before the fall."

Their arrogance is so blinding they don't even realize that they are destroying themselves.

It's extra butter popcorn time!

 

59 har, yes I did methos, it was dismissed out of hand with no factual basis.

If the Fire department reported 1.2 million, would it have been dismissed as well i wonder?

60 48 the DC fire department is reporting 60,000 to 70,000.

The Washington Post calls B.S. on that claim:

"Authorities in the District do not give official crowd estimates, but Saturday's throng appeared to number in the many tens of thousands. A sea of people surrounded the Capitol reflecting pool, spilling across Third Street and along the Mall. The sound system did not reach far enough for people at the edges of the rally to hear the speakers onstage."

61 "50 ;">46 ;">; font-style: italic;">They say the bill will pass this week without any republican input.

Curious, if they do that, there could be a revolution, for real. ;">  ;">Posted by: obama is a traitor at September 13, 2009 03:57 PM (Qt4Y7) ;">  ------------------------------- For the Democrats, it's a lose/lose situation. Fail to pass a bill, and they've started down to road to emasculation. Pass a bill, and get voted out.   They'll water it down, pass it, and declare victory.
 

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at September 13, 2009 04:10 PM (PB0gV)"

Watch the speech from yesterday.  He knew there were over a million people in DC who are not in favor of any of this and he still spoke the way he did with the tone he had.  The MSM has couched this as "a defining moment in his presidency".  He is going to pass a bill and he is going to leave a lot of leeway so that he gets his death panels and his public option and perhaps control by the government of the entire health care industry.  Ask yourself "did you think GM would end up like this?  Fannie?  freddie?  medicare?  medicade?  social security?  Yesterday was a real "let them eat cake" moment and the people who came out don't even realize it.  They don't see the steamroller coming.  If you go by passed behavior, it doesn't matter what the American people think as the congress and the prez think they know better and they are out to prove it.  Look how Gibsey set the tone yesterday.  What?  something going on here?  no, the prez is going to MN to give a speech at the Target center to paid participants, that is what is important.  Libs have actually said "once all those old people are dead and gone, we can really change this country".  That is scary if you ask me.

62 59 har, yes I did methos, it was dismissed out of hand with no factual basis.

If the Fire department reported 1.2 million, would it have been dismissed as well i wonder?

Mars, The Washington Post says the D.C. Fire Department doesn't report crowd estimates (see 60).  So your claim that it did is bogus, unless and until you can point to the name of the DCFD official who made the announcement.

63 54 Posted by: Mars at September 13, 2009 04:06 PM (jcIYN)

Here's a timelapse you dumbfuck. You'll notice the National Mall is full. The National Park Service says that the National Mall holds 946,000 and the area directly in front of the Capitol holds 240,000. That's 1,186,00 people.
LOL, you're so pwn3d.

Go get your fuckin' shinebox bitch

That time lapse is actually of Pennsylvania Ave right?

I would calculate it by noting that the sidewalk capacity alone is 300,000 per security experts quoted by the Washington Post for Obama's inauguration. The street is much wider and though people were moving, rather than stationary and therefore more densely packed, that movement seems to have continued long enough to compensate for the difference in density. Therefore, IMO at least 1 million is reasonable.

64 The obamabots are out in force in comments across the interwebs!

65 Googled 9/12 crowd estimate and this blog came up.

66 har, yes I did methos, it was dismissed out of hand with no factual basis.

It's not a fact that DC firemen are unionized?

Why exactly would the fire departments be counting crowds, anyway.  Police have to keep the peace, so they have to have their heads wrapped around the situation, so they'd be expected to count.  Whoever supplied the port-a-potties (who is responsible for keeping the pee) should also be aware what the plans were for and how much they were off by.  I'm sure there are other "agencies" in DC who'd want to know the size of a crowd sitting on the capital.

But the fire department?

67 Bill R.: your math is off.  450 x 40 = 18,000 (another way to look at it is about half a thousand buses times 40 means about 20 thousand total people).

Posted by: stuiec at September 13, 2009 04:23 PM (f0O9k)

I stand corrected. Stupid calculator!

68

O/T: the birth of the Charles Johnson doctrine for killing protestors: if the protestor carries a sign you think is "kooky" and "disgusting," that's a reason to kill him.

Michigan man accused of murder in shootings of abortion foe, businessman

"The indication is that he had ill will ... a grudge against these three individuals," said Shiawassee County Prosecutor Randy Colbry. "The defendant was offended by the manner of Mr. Pouillon's message."

69

Fire departments in general don't give a damn about crowd size unless it's in a building or enclosed space.

D.C. Fire wouldn't waste time and resources trying to figure out crowd numbers.

Trust me, they have other things to worry about.

70 Scott Rasmussen on Fox, saying the president's speech worked to rally the base and maybe all the campaign style emails with pre written emails to their representatives) so now, among likely voters it is 48% opposed and 48% in favor.  So Americans are now evenly split.   He knew this from his private polls and he is going to ram a bill through with plenty of loopholes that will allow more and greater government power over our health care.

71 67 Bill R.

No worries.  I think Mark at 63 has a good rule-of-thumb estimate.

72 Ham-sters rock!!!!!!!!

73 They'll water it down, pass it, and declare victory.

Yeah, I see why people keep worrying about that.  It's obviously necessary to keep the pressure on.  But bear in mind that this is the Democrat party we're talking about here.  They aren't exactly bastions of courage.  I think for all the talk there will be no bill of any kind.  My only question is whether Pelosi takes the extra step of holding a vote, under some delusion she has the votes-or playing chicken with her caucus-or whether it just all fizzles out under its own weight.

74 the entire country could have been there but if the episode is ignored as though it didn't happen, didn't matter then in essence it failed and that brings forth the question of "how could such a demonstration fail to get the attention of congress and the prez?"  and "why do they feel they can ignore it?"

75 Posted by: joe at September 13, 2009 04:42 PM (p302b)

I guess next time more people will have to go and shut DC down completely.

76 Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at September 13, 2009 04:47 PM (4wuHS)

Not being negative, but just astonished that people like Gibsey can just wish the rally out of existence and it happens.

77

46 They say the bill will pass this week without any republican input.

Curious, if they do that, there could be a revolution, for real.

Just a few snippets to consider.

Shannon Breem was interviewing some Ky. Dem this afternoon and was asked about the "going it alone" option.  He admitted there was at most one or two Repubs who might vote for it, but that they would go it alone --  because "we have to vote for what's best for the country."  Funny, I thought being a "representative" meant you represented your constituents.

I've heard Boehner (I think) say that if the Dems try to go nuclear with the "51" vote, that Repubs can make life a living hell for the House, in that every bill will be read word for word on the floor from hereon out.  Is that true?

Even though the thought is "let 'em pass it and get voted out," and ""we'll have plenty of time to roll it back since it doesn't go into effect till 2013," Rush and others pundits have said once this thing is law, everything is set in motion to totally revamp, i.e., destroy our healthcare system.

78

Posted by Charles Johnson:

"By the way, please post links here of Nazi imagery at the protest. I've already found lots of them, but I intend to rub Powerline's stupid denial post (they're claiming Nazi imagery was not popular at the demo) in their faces, and as many as possible would be good."

He's busy seeing hate, racism, birchers, thruthers, nazi's, and treats of violence and promoting it in every comment and post.  And he believes the claim that there were only 60-70,000 people there.

79 yes, rush babe, they are all saying the same thing that it has to pass "for the good of the country".  And, they seem oblivious to the rally, totally oblivious..  why are they waiting to implement this for four years if it is just a simple little bill?

80

Posted by: joe at September 13, 2009 04:42 PM (p302b)

I think the thing that bothers me most about all this is the fact that they keep telling the same lies over and over. If the left is so convinced that their cause is righteous, then convince me I am wrong. Show me where I am mistaken. If they can point out the errors in my thinking, I will change my mind and argue for this.

 

 

81

They're willing to ram this bill down everyone's throat because it has nothing to do with healthcare reform or what the people "need."  It's all about creating dependency to insure power.  The quicker the better.  I'm still waiting for the day that the dependents wake up and ask: 

With everything the government has given me why am I still poor?

82 The US insisted it would raise Iranian’s nuclear activities in the meeting. "This may not have been a topic that they wanted to be brought up but I can assure that it's a topic that we'll bring up," said White House spokesman Robert Gibbs.

Obama: About those nukes....
Achmedajihad: Let's not go there...
Obama: OK, whatever. How about some lunch?

83 Everyone who doesn't worship me and Obama is a racist. Believe me, I know how black people think from my lilly white gated exclusive community in Georgetown.

84

I just looked up "Reconciliation" on Wikipedia and now I want to track down my nearest Democrat Representative and choke him/her to death with my bare hands.

85 In a figurative way!

86 Aliens (Not The Good Kind) Descend Upon Washington DC, 
Their Language and Concepts Were So Foreign to Our Way of Thinking We Dare Not Attempt to Translate.


That is what the headline should have read for the Washington Post's coverage.

87 #17 Rush Babe

Of course they don't. The ball will be in our court at that time.

#75 Word, although it is not numbers that will count, but intent. I am sure that more than a few government types felt relief that 1.2-2 million citizens did not storm a lot of government buildings and start decorating lamp posts and trees.

This was the equivalent of calling, "halt". The elections will be the warning shot. If they are cancelled or blatantly rigged ......

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88 74  the entire country could have been there but if the episode is ignored as though it didn't happen, didn't matter then in essence it failed and that brings forth the question of "how could such a demonstration fail to get the attention of congress and the prez?"  and "why do they feel they can ignore it?"

Posted by: joe at September 13, 2009 04:42 PM (p302b)

 

Congress knows. The White House knows. The MSM know. Tens of millions of Americans also know. It didn't fail. This is a warning shot across the bow and they damn well noticed it.

 

_{C.J.: Warning shot! A threat of violence! Eeeeek!}

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The wife and I just got back home to Ohio from the 9/12 DC Tea-Party.  Rather than try to find a parking space in DC, we rode the Metro subway in from New Carrollton.  The subway was so crowded when we got off, the Transit cops just opened the turn-stile and told the crowd to just forget about using their tickets.  I talked to a Transit cop and he told me that it was a mandatory work day and they were all on duty!

We got in to DC at about 10:30AM.  We were at Pennsylvania & 13th and it was a sea of humanity as far as the eye could see!  One of the volunteers told me that Pennsylania Ave had already been closed for about two hours and the crowd was so huge that the march on the Capitol started early.  Pennsylvania Ave was shut down for about four hours total.

The DC cops were present but bored.  The crowd was very orderly and well-behaved.  The wife and I got to the Capitol by about 12 Noon.  The entire area was packed and people kept streaming in for hours. 

I spoke to some of the volunteer staff and they were stunned by the turn-out.  They were hoping in their wildest dreams to get about 500,000.  The crowd was way larger than they planned for.

90 What's really amazing is that the lefty press can take some liberal protest of 5 aging hippies and turn it into thousands of people and take yesterday's event and reduce hundreds of thousands to tens of thousands. Great job to everyone who attended regardless of what the asswipe media reports.

91 quietman, you must be joking. the protests in opposition to the war in iraq set the guiness record. Rome alone had 3 million protesters. The event was worldwide Many people attending were young, not "aging hippies". Kind of an ironic comment I might add, considering the average age of the "tea party" set. Certainly there have been many smaller protests, but none of them covered as well as Terri Shiavo, and that had a little over 100 at best.

I think you guys should honestly feel good about the turnout even if it isn't 2 million, as Malkin reported. Conservatives appear to be really taking their shot at protesting. welcome to particapatory democracy. I think its good for the country.

Imagine so many delusional people getting organized to block of all things, expanding health care in this country. The insurance companies that bilk us all must love you guys. Imagine actually believing that obama is some kind of nazi/communist for offering pretty watered down industry-centric policy changes. its truly baffling to sane people everywhere.

92 I might add, that almost none of the opposition message made it to the msm, who virtually never airs ant-war protesters, politicians, or spokespeople. Left and right, war supporters dominated coverage leading up to the war. it wasn't even close. except for donahue (who naturally, was canned even with high ratings) I can't think of a single pundit who received decent air time. Possibly Cindy Sheehan, but she was roundly derided, and rightly so. You guys should be in love with the msm, they have covered the "Tea party" events considerably.

93 Posted by: Mars at September 13, 2009 07:45 PM (jcIYN)

I would tell you to shove it up your ass but I see that you have your head jammed up there already.

94  One thing I find interesting about yesterday, and recent events is that they may be signaling the end of political parties as we know/knew them; the opposition to Obama is not being driven by the Republican Party; the GOP is, at best, an adjunct to the opposition; this is what the Internet, talk radio, and Twitter have wrought,

See--Barak's a Uniter!

95 I got chills watching that... Change may finally be coming. We might actually waking up and taking our country back from the pantywaist whiners and mooches who've been setting policy.

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98 "The insurance companies that bilk us all must love you guys."

You fool.

Obama and the insurance companies are in this TOGETHER. Haven't you been paying attention? He's promised them and Big Pharma that he'll cut a sweet deal with them, AND start up the conveyor belt of captive "customers" into their maw.

You idiot. You fell for this.

99 You know, if you put your fingers in your ears (I like the thumb)and slap the rest of your hand over your eyes and chant nyah, nyah, nyah, you don't have to deal with reality.  Seems to be the pose obama and friends are taking.

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