1 The devil's advocate rather likes that they were loaded and ready for bear on site.

2 No one in their right mind does that...but who in the Obama Administration has a right mind anyway?

Van Jones will tell us..."this is no training exercise!"

3
What a bunch of assholes we have in government.

Our bureaucracies are filled with nincompoops and hacks.

This country needs an enema.

4 Well except in time of War the Coast Guard falls under the Office of Homeland Security so don't blame the Navy.

5 I don't blame the Navy...I blame Bush!  I know he knew.

6 the "adults" are in charge now, i feel safer.

7

>>This country needs an enema.

Where should the tube go? I vote: Gary, Indiana

8 I expect training exercises are scheduled at a somewhat lower level than Washington. So I can't blame this on the Zero Administration, much as I'd like to.

9 Maybe Lt. Dangle went back to the CG after Reno 911 was cancelled.

10 Sorry to sound like Van Jones, but I don't know that indeed this is a training exercise. I know that Obama is stupid, but not sure if he's this stupid.

I say it's a terrorism event, but indeed, they cannot use the words "terrorism" and "9/11" so indeed they called it a "training exercise."

That's my take.

11 >>This country needs an enema.

>>>Where should the tube go? I vote: Gary, Indiana

I vote the state of Massachussets

12 Unfortunately, unlike the Air Force One fiasco, I don't think this can be blamed on the vanity and incompetence of the White House.  This is just general governmental stupidity, which happens in every administration.  The difference will be in the reaction.  Bush would have fired the idiots responsible.  Obama will likely invite them to the Oval for cookies and a heart-to-heart.

13
Drew, ergie is stinking up the 9/11 thread.

14

To the conspiracy nuts on the Left this will look like a "dry run" by rouges in the government setting up President Obama. What an idiotic thing for the Coast Guard to do!

Sign the petition for the 9/11CoastTruth.org

Did the government just conduct a dry run??

Is the coast guard up to something?

We need an investigation to get to the bottom of this. Sign the petitition!

15 What is truly unbelievable to me is that 8 years later we have a half muslim commie president named hussein.

16 What's the big deal? Today is a day of service. The Coast Guard was serving. You pretend like 9/11 is some significant day...

< /smartass >

17 7

>>This country needs an enema.

Where should the tube go? I vote: Gary, Indiana

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at September 11, 2009 10:45 AM (lDdA/)

How about the epicenter which is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?

 

18 What is truly unbelievable to me is that 8 years later we have a half muslim commie president named hussein.
Posted by: the real joe at September 11, 2009 10:48 AM (gue3j)

And he is my boss? G-D help us all.

19 A training exercise? Who would be that stupid and tone deaf? Shots were fired, but they say no. Who to believe? Unfortunately The"O" has told so many lies no one can say for sure.

20 As if we needed any other evidence of how utterly divorced our government is from reality...

21 Lots of assumptions at this point, but if they did fire shots (again big assumption), this was probably something done at a very low level.  Someone screwed the pooch.  Nothing you could blame on Barry (as much as I would like to). 

That said and if it is a low-level screw-up, these guys - the Coasties - are out there doing their best to keep us safe and making very little money and getting even less credit for doing so. So maybe we should try to cut them some slack.

I mean who among us hasn't fucked-up before?

22

Hmmmm...

 

Buzzed the citizens of NYC with Air Force One and Fighter pilots.

Check.

 

Coast Guard firing on a small boat near the Pentagon on the 8th anninversary of 9-11.

Check.

 

If I was someone living in PA, I'd have my head on a swivel.

23 Perfect.  Dad has to go to CG Headquarters this morning.

24 I say it's a terrorism event, but indeed, they cannot use the words "terrorism" and "9/11" so indeed they called it a "training exercise."

Me too.  There's no way this admin will ever acknowledge muslims terrorism.  Especially against The Won.  Hopefully one of them coasties will talk.

25 No one thinks any more.

They just robotically follow the process, no matter how stupid the result.

I'm sure the bureaucracy inside the Coast guard all marched in lockstep and chose this date for the exercise to meet thier current schedules ... and no one stopped to think why this day was open on everyone's planner.

26 Obviously, that administration houses some the dumbest bastards on the face of the earth.

27 So the Coast Guard is conducting live fire exercises at the same time and location where Obama's motorcade is scheduled to pass by. Is there a potential downside?

28 I'll believe that this was a training exercise as much as I would believe the headline "Obama impeached for being a gut-less traitor".

29 Yeah, Biden is the downside.

30 obama is a traitor -

Three Words:

President Joe Biden.

I wish Obama the VERY BEST of health until the next election when he gets tossed out.

31 If you like your small boat, you can keep your small boat.

32 26  & 27  + a google

33 13
Drew, ergie is stinking up the 9/11 thread.

Posted by: Tweet Phillip Sousa at September 11, 2009 10:47 AM (jVldi)

that, should be grounds for a permanent banning.

34

I just posted in the headlines thread that I find this suspicious. Either it is abject stupidity on the part of someone in Coast Guard command, or a cover story.

Why the heck would they do this? At the EXACT time the motorcade is passing by? Are there really such obvious coincidences? Especially on 9/11?

Reality is unreal these days.

35 This exercise was scheduled by the previous administration and we just inherited it.

36

The federal government at work keeping you safe.  Just think how well we will be when they take over medical care.

 

37 Slow Joe is a patriot.

38 It just goes to show you how much many have forgotten this event 8 years ago.

39 The problem here is CNN who was eavesdropping on the police scanner where the cost guard made the call about a suspicious boat and shots fired, as part of the exercise.

40 On the one hand there appears to be an active effort by the administration to play down 9/11 and encourage complacency, while on the other hand there appear to be a remarkable number of people who should know better but feel nothing when they see that date on the calendar.

Which are worse?

41 OT: Second ACORN hooker video, the DC office this time.

42 Dictator behavior!

43 President Joe Biden.

I wish Obama the VERY BEST of health until the next election when he gets tossed out.

Posted by: Ryan Frank at September 11, 2009 11:03 AM (XwktS)

I've said it before I'd take Biden over Barry. Biden is a dimwit but he doesn't have Barry's deepseated hatred for this country. Plus the media wouldn't be on their knees in front of Biden all day and night.

44 "Slow Joe is a patriot."

Yes.  He's an imbecile, but he's not a radical leftist surrounded by a cult of personality.  He'd be a terrible president but he'd be better than this.

45 that, should be grounds for a permanent banning.

Hell yes. Tomorrow.

We should leave today's trollposts up, on permanent display. We should never sugar-coat the fact that the left is comprised of degenerate scum that think nothing of desecrating the fallen.

The trolls want anger. Fine, we should give it to them....good and hard. And leaving the trollposts up for all to see stokes that anger, which will be all the sweeter when we crush their dreams of destroying this country and our way of life.

46 Dear Sports Fans,

You ready for some football? I know I am. As you know I am a huge Bears fan. Hell, I've been a Bears fan since Sale Gayers was quarterbacking the Bears to numerous Super Bowl victories back in the storied Wrigley Stadium. I encourage you to watch as much football as possible this weekend and squeeze in a baseball game or two. Have a few beers and relax. Consider this your patriotic duty. Lots of boob tube and alcohol will dull your senses, and make you more compliant and sheep-like. This will help your betters in Washington sneak through legislation that will decrease your liberty and increase our power. Don't worry though, we know what is best for you. Did I mention that we are your betters? Anyway, nice talking to you, and go Bears!

Sincerely,

Presnit Baraq 0bama

47

So, CNN didn't just fall for it hook, line and sinker--they were the ones who promoted the false story. Thank heavens we don't have Faux News here on regular cable!

48 This just makes no sense. There is about ZERO possibility that the White House/Secret Service/ Homeland Security, etc. should/would deliberately be left unaware of a TE like this by the Coast Guard.

What are the possibilities?
1-
The CG is absolutely incompetent and didn't know the significance of the date, the President's proximity, or the inevitable reaction from people near the scene. Is that even a possibility?
2-
Everyone knew about it, ( including POTUS, Sec Svc, etc.) and the media and passers-by overreacted or didn't understand what they were seeing. That's a real possibility. We should know when the denials/acknowledgements are all sorted out.
3-
There was a real problem at the site and nobody wants to acknowledge it yet. That's a little conspiracy-esque for me, but it is still early in the story. A variation of this one is that an individual in the CG totally effed up and fired "blanks" at the exact wrong moment in the exact wrong place.

I'm sure there are other possibilities/combinations, but I wanted to get my thoughts organized before I go look at the new updates. Anyone have a scenario that doesn't involve at least one person/agency totally screwing up?

49 My wife called and told me to get the f*** out of the building. See my office overlooks the potomac. These people need to get their head examined by a wood chipper. If something really does blow up, I will let you know.

50 I am sure the Coastie AT training schedule has been set for months.  They don't know anything about the President's route and schedule.

The screw-up was from the USSS, not considering riverine operations or security in their route planning.  They have access to the Coasties schedules -- if they ask. I am sure it was coordinated and available to everyone else. Sometime the USSS plays things a little to independently.  In all a minor incident.

Another issue is the CNN dork with a scanner; I would have thought all of the agencies around DC would be on new digital, trunked radios by now.  That to me is most important issue this incident highlights.

As far as conducting AT training on 9/11 -- one of the better things to do today.  I'm sure everyone mentioned  (with the obvious exception of the CNN dork and the USSS package) knows what today means.

51 #49.. or maybe not?
depends on if you get the frak out of the building like your wife strongly suggested

52 Ever see the movie Moon over Parador?

53 Unbelievable?

Drew, with this Administration it is quite believable.  Look at their viewpoint (no, I'm not advocating some sort of multicultural crap).  To them it's just another day in the year.  And the only solution to something like this is full-court ridicule; they won't get it, but if they catch enough heat they won't repeat it.

54 The Kenyan coast guard commander ordered the exercise, maybe?

55

Well, this is now a day of service. Saw the Mayor of NYC. announce that a couple of hrs ago. Somehow linking the tragedy of 9/11, and all the people who tried to help out in the disaster of that day.

Problem with me. Whenever a disaster of any sort happens, people rise to the occasion. Be it 9/11, Tornado, Earthquake, doesn't matter. Americans turn out in droves to help the injured and sick. We're known for it.

So why try to change the Anniversery of 9/11 to such a thing? Wouldn't that sort of be like changing Pearl Harbor to Water Rescue day?

The whole point is why and what happened. And how to prevent it from happening again.

Not the response, as magnifcent as it was.

Plus don't forget how many firefighters and police were killed because they HAD in fact responded, then the first Tower went down.

This just makes me ill.

56

This country needs an enema.

When I was in nursing school, we learned the 3H enema.  High, Hot, and Hell of a lot!

57

So why try to change the Anniversery of 9/11 to such a thing? Wouldn't that sort of be like changing Pearl Harbor to Water Rescue day?

Awesome observation, HH (clapping)!

58 29 Yeah, Biden is the downside.

Well, for one thing, he's not a commie Muslim who hates America.

And he is entertaining.

So really, in a pinch, I'd choose Sheriff Joe.

59 ALL IS WELL!  REMAIN CALM!

60 Plus don't forget how many firefighters and police were killed because they HAD in fact responded, then the first Tower went down.

And we should remember that those brave souls were still able to rescue about 95% of the 40-50k people in the towers. Not just courageous, but effective.

61 Why did these screw-ups not happen when Bush was president? 

62 Sue@61, they did - they happen all of the time - that is why we have to train continuously.  The actions will be reviewed and with the level of attention this got, swiftly corrected. 

63 "A variation of this one is that an individual in the CG totally effed up and fired "blanks" at the exact wrong moment in the exact wrong place."

This is not only possible but probable.

64

Problem with me. Whenever a disaster of any sort happens, people rise to the occasion. Be it 9/11, Tornado, Earthquake, doesn't matter. Americans turn out in droves to help the injured and sick. We're known for it.

 

Actually this is not true for some places in America. Look at New Orleans and Katrina.  The police abandoned their posts, the ones who did not leave town actually participated in looting. The mayor of the town left for Houston Texas and failed to carry out their own emergency plan.  The list of local screw-ups is legion.

 

And after all of that they blamed it on Bush. What’s more they still  blame everything on Bush. It is easy to see why the Obominites don’t give a shit for remembering 9-11 and believe the truthers. They have a well formed mindset for stupid.

65 Whew, I was sweating bullets for a few minutes there. I was getting ready for the flash and then the mushroom cloud.

66

Actually this is not true for some places in America. Look at New Orleans and Katrina.  The police abandoned their posts, the ones who did not leave town actually participated in looting. The mayor of the town left for Houston Texas and failed to carry out their own emergency plan.  The list of local screw-ups is legion.

Actually, I think the desertion of officers is overstated...  I'm guessing that sure that NOLA had a LOT of officers listed who either didn't really exist or had retired and were still listed as active on the manpower sheets because they wanted to puff their numbers. 

It could have also been a payroll fraud situation like the public school system in Detroit, where a fraud-prevention tactic forcing everyone to claim their checks in person uncovered about 257 "ghost employees" who were receiving checks.

67

I scrolled down quickly so if someone else brought it up, dittos.

How about this: the Coast Guard did fire on a "terrorist" attacking Obambi and they just came up with the "fireing exercise" as a "quick cover so as not to worry the American Public no this day."

Anyone else cynical enought to think this lying motherbuggerer*  would do something like this?

*(trying to keep it clean for the ADs)

68 It appears that the Coast Guard was indeed conducting a security exercise today and that one of the Coasties may have said, "bang, bang, bang" over the radio to simulate gunfire. 

Big WOW.

If true, the problem here was not the Coast Guard conducting an exercise on 9/11. Seriously who cares?  They are probably doing it nation-wide maybe for training but also maybe as a little show of force to anyone who might be thinking of doing something bad.  

I'm all for that.

The problem was CNN hearing this and overreacting like the the dickwads they are and thus getting everyone all spun up.

That's my opinion anyway.

69

True Vic, but I suggest that that is at least One in Ten out of a number of disasters. One being poor response.

Question... was New Orleans promently Republican or Democrat?

70 After a quick perusal of the stories online, I'm going to give CNN the lion's share of the blame for their declarative reporting about shots fired, suspicious vessel, etc. The CG may be partly responsible for not informing the media ahead of time (how hard would it be to call the AP/WaPo and tell them that there's going to be a TE? There are notificatiions of stuff like that all the time in the DC area, and the local media also provides the President's daily schedule), but at least they were doing something worthwhile.
CNN was way too eager to cause a panic, and will now be way too eager to shift the blame.

71 I think that it's fitting that our troops are conducting exercises on this day.

72

Question... was New Orleans promently Republican or Democrat?

 

Actually you can see the answer to that in my last paragraph when I said “Obamanite voters”.

 

Orleans parish voted 79% for the Bambi.

 

73 72

Question... was New Orleans promently Republican or Democrat?

 

Actually you can see the answer to that in my last paragraph when I said �Obamanite voters�.

 

Orleans parish voted 79% for the Bambi.

Here's another answer to that question... ACORN's national headquarters is based in NOLA.

74

#68 - I agree.

Moronette Cheri is a CG Vet-  these excercises go on continually. My opinion is the exercise radio chatter was intercepted by media/boaters and the  call 'shots fired' went out.  This should have been on a secure frequency buy not too hard for others to intercept.

 

 

 

75

Here's another answer to that question... ACORN's national headquarters is based in NOLA.

 

LOL, I hadn’t thought of that. What better place to locate a vast criminal enterprise than in a city renowned for corruption.

 

76 Is there any city in the USA now that isn't renowned for corrupiton?

77 Missed the story when it was reported, but let me guess:  within 10 minutes of it hitting the airwaves, the Potomac was wall-to-wall, or rather, bank-to-bank with looky-loos in kayaks and zodiacs etc., eagerly scouting for  the blood and guts. 

78 "I think that it's fitting that our troops are conducting exercises on this day."

Me too. Still, if they messed up the coordination that should be a nice little item in the After Action report.

79 Waiting for the president to comment that CNN acted stupidly...

80 How much of this has been verifiied? Potomac is a big river. I'd heard the president was long gone by the time of the training exercise...

From a noon report I heard on radio from reporter Jamie Dupree, he said the exercise was on the Potomic and that someone at CNN was listening to a police scanner and heard the 'exercise' going down. There were no gunshots, just a person (USCG?) saying over the air 'bang bang bang'. This was a training exercise and as a result communications were going over unencrypted channels. Normal operations are, as standard operations procedures require, done over encrypted channels.

CNN employee writes it up and hands it over for broadcast and noone had called the USCG to verify 'recent events'.

Mr. Dupree stated one of the old jouranlism rules he lives by, and most of the press used to, is to never report what you hear over a scanner w/o confirmation.

81 If true, the problem here was not the Coast Guard conducting an exercise on 9/11. Seriously who cares?

Sorry, that doesn't fly. The possibility of misinterpreting a training exercise on 9.11 is not small, it's obviously higher than normal.

Whoever ordered the exercise needs to have their card punched.

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