Natural 20: Town Hall Protester Scores a Critical Hit on Norm Dicks

As someone who has fretted about people doing bad YouTube-friendly confrontations, I've urged people to properly categorize themselves as either effective or ineffective spokesmen.

Her? Effective. I just popped a rhetoric-boner clean through my pants. Every bit of her rhetoric was good -- but then she threw the cherry on top with that genius dramatic flourish at the end?

Showmanship, baby. Tonight's dinner? Steak with a heaping side-order of sizzle.

Stolen from Hot Air, but I needed this chick on my site.

Allah notes that her "come and take it" isn't meant in the Molon Labe-ish way, but no matter, it's close enough and will be used in that manner.

Witness the birth of 10,000 tee shirts and posters.

Email of the Day: Charles Johnson just emailed me:

That guy sitting three seats down from her with the squirrely haircut? I have it on good authority, nearly as good as Van Jones signing his name to a Truther petition, that he once read some Truther literature on a Peter Pan bus to Poughkeepsie, but I notice you don't want to mention that. Sigh. The hypocrisy never ends.

Her Blog: ...is here. I think.

Now, I was just debating with Drew (who found this) whether she is "partly outed" or "all the way outed" and if it was fair to push her further out. But the fact is the information is right there on the YouTube clip, and she's about to become at least a cable-news celebrity, so I figure: She's all the way outed.

I normally would have waited to ask her, but this clip is going to be on every cable channel.

Except MSNBC.

Here's an interview with her... I think.

That's Not Her? A protester says he knows that blogger, "Liberty Belle," and the Twenty-Dollar Terrorist isn't her.

So maybe mistaken identity or similar names.

...

History Lesson: Several commenters tell me "come and take it" was a war-cry of the Texas Revolution in 1835."

I don't see how that changes things, though. That, presumably, was also a Molon Labe taunt. Her taunt is different -- "If you want my money, don't take it sneaky-like by rationing my care and adding in exciting new taxation items to my FICA; be a man and take it from my hand."

Again, though, it doesn't matter how it was used; the Molon Labe and Alamo war-cry resonance is right there.

It's all good.

...

Bonus Cowbell: I'm going to use my powers as blogger to just declare this a cowbell-worthy moment, and link my favorite Pink Floyd cowbell song.

Gluttons, man. Always feeding at our trough. Gettin' fat off the sustenance we provide but always hungry for more.

Posted by: Ace at 08:16 PM

Comments

1 please no one say IHI

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 05, 2009 08:17 PM (Q9JwA)

2 and the sooners blow

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 05, 2009 08:18 PM (Q9JwA)

3 THREE!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 05, 2009 08:18 PM (Q9JwA)

everyone is gone?

so ace, hows your day going?

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 05, 2009 08:19 PM (Q9JwA)

today i threw away a pound of bacon, i laughed

spam baby, its so much better

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 05, 2009 08:21 PM (Q9JwA)

6 awesome!

Posted by: trailortrash at September 05, 2009 08:21 PM (wiDZf)

7 It's a shame she's wearing what looks like a ladies' prison jumpsuit. On the other hand, some AOSHQ commenters may consider that a plus.

Oh, content I give a 100 out of 100, nad I'm no stranger to good and bad YouTube interactions.

Posted by: See-Dubya at September 05, 2009 08:21 PM (SyghG)

8 Sounded like there were some Union plants there to back the good Congressman.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at September 05, 2009 08:23 PM (cxGtL)

9 5

today i threw away a pound of bacon, i laughed

spam baby, its so much better

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 05, 2009 08:21 PM (Q9JwA)

HERETIC! BURN HIM!

Posted by: UncleFacts Summoner of Meteors, Overseer of Burghers at September 05, 2009 08:24 PM (vZVv7)

10 Would hit it.

Posted by: EC at September 05, 2009 08:25 PM (iWj1i)

11 I can't accept a contribution like that....

Dude, I'm pretty sure she wasn't ponying up for your reelection....

Posted by: XBradTC at September 05, 2009 08:26 PM (NimeM)

9 it got people out though

you note though i am too scared to ever do that on a ont

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 05, 2009 08:26 PM (Q9JwA)

13 And where the hell is Tri Corner Hat babe these days? She should be at one of these town halls so we can marvel at her glory again.

Posted by: EC at September 05, 2009 08:27 PM (iWj1i)

10 dude, please see #1

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 05, 2009 08:27 PM (Q9JwA)

15 Posted by: navycopjoe at September 05, 2009 08:27 PM (Q9JwA)

In 10's defense, I've never heard it made into an acronym.

Posted by: Last Minute Moron at September 05, 2009 08:29 PM (a4o2p)

16 I realized something; many people think that the Tea Party protesters are 'wasting their time' with other pursuits, but to be honest, these people are of the same group. I heard cries similar to these (not delivered in the same way, this was nothing short of pure brilliance) when I was at the Hartford and Norwich CT protests on 4/15. These Town Hall protesters are of the same flock, just under a slightly different name.

Posted by: SOCR at September 05, 2009 08:29 PM (0MVJd)

17 This lady and the small business owner lady from Novato CA whose video is posted at Hot Air did a great job.

Posted by: Cheri at September 05, 2009 08:31 PM (llSaz)

18 I don't want to be disrespectful, but I would have already have hit it before she even started up with the boner-talk.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2009 08:31 PM (TkYWo)

19 I already hit that. She got that 20 from me.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at September 05, 2009 08:31 PM (cxGtL)

20 12

9 it got people out though

you note though i am too scared to ever do that on a ont

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 05, 2009 08:26 PM (Q9JwA)

Living dangerous aren't ya?

Posted by: UncleFacts Summoner of Meteors, Overseer of Burghers at September 05, 2009 08:32 PM (vZVv7)

21 17

Yeah, I meant to link her too. She was great.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2009 08:32 PM (TkYWo)

22 Greatness.

Posted by: Amused Observer at September 05, 2009 08:32 PM (EbqoB)

I�m waiting for someone at one of these live Townhalls to stand up and say :

"Mr. Congressman, I�d like to continue voting for you, but if these reckless, irresponsible and destructive Health and Cap & Tax bills are passed, I will run against you in 2010."

Posted by: Arbalest at September 05, 2009 08:33 PM (bwK3Q)

24 I'd bite it.

Posted by: Mike Tyson at September 05, 2009 08:33 PM (MFbfZ)

25 Good theater, like when D'Amato used to bring the inflatable pigs onto the senate floor.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 05, 2009 08:34 PM (k1urC)

26 Does anyone know she's talking to in this clip?

Posted by: EC at September 05, 2009 08:34 PM (iWj1i)

No one bit her finger off, and that's a plus.

Hey, Ace, you have lots of chicks on your site like her. Every last one of us.

Posted by: Who Knows at September 05, 2009 08:34 PM (7FgWm)

I posted this on Hot Air in response to AllahPundit and will re-post it here. Don't they teach American history in American classrooms? Or do they just pledge allegiance to Obama?

"I don�t think she means this in the molon labe/'pry 't from my cold dead hands, sucka' sense but rather the �be man enough to act like the thief that you are' sense."

This Texas historian just shakes his head. The "Come and take it" banner was an important part of the Texas fight for independence. The Mexican army demanded their cannon be returned, but the Texians...

WIKIPEDIA: BATTLE OF GONZALES
As Moore returned, the Texians raised a homemade white banner, with an image of the cannon painted in black in the center and the words "Come & Take It". They then fired their cannon at the Mexican camp. Realizing that he was outnumbered and outgunned, Casta�eda led his troops back to Bexar. The troops were gone before the Texians could reload and fire the cannon a second time. In his report to Ugartechea, Casta�eda wrote "since the orders from your Lordship were for me to withdraw without compromising the honor of Mexican arms, I did so".

Posted by: Barry Popik at September 05, 2009 08:34 PM (IAfOx)

29 Who she's talking to?

Posted by: EC at September 05, 2009 08:35 PM (iWj1i)

30
The most shameful and self-serving comment yet from a tea party 3-bagger who got the $20 from turning a trick with Poon. Yep, she dorked him!

Posted by: Maxipad Waters, D, Cali at September 05, 2009 08:37 PM (FnA4R)

31 �be man enough to act like the thief that you are'

love it -

Posted by: Cheri at September 05, 2009 08:37 PM (llSaz)

32 Ace, I think you would love this youtube video posted by instapundit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4r6YCUtxfs

Posted by: cu at September 05, 2009 08:38 PM (I2+Bh)

33 And where the hell is Tri Corner Hat babe these days? She should be at one of these town halls so we can marvel at her glory again.

Posted by: EC at September 05, 2009 08:27 PM

Classes at Purdue started up this week. She's back on campus. Was at the Purdue game today.

I'll have to let her know she's missed. heh (I'm 'Facebook friends' with her and a fellow Boilermaker (alum)).

Posted by: Michael in MI at September 05, 2009 08:38 PM (ObTcs)

34 She's gave a Glenn Beck'ish performance... without all the tears...

Posted by: phreshone at September 05, 2009 08:39 PM (wQx2m)

35 Does anyone know who this woman is? How she feels about Trutherism, is she a Birther, has she ever read any Ron Paul literature, how about her friends?

Posted by: Charles Johnson at September 05, 2009 08:39 PM (H60q6)

36 CJ just let me know that the $20 bill was touched by 13 truthers.

Posted by: CDR M at September 05, 2009 08:40 PM (cvmTR)

37 Posted by: Barry Popik at September 05, 2009 08:34 PM (IAfOx)

Thank you for that. I was thinking the same thing. Not toooooooo surprised Allah didn't know where "Come and Take it" came from. Love this woman.

Posted by: hmfearny at September 05, 2009 08:41 PM (Bh9rd)

38 28
Barry, as a Social Studies teacher and history major in college I can tell you, history lessons are good and are often appreciated, as long as they aren't done in a pompous or derisive manner. Nobody wants to be talked down to.

Thank you for the historical perspective. Just tweak the tone a little.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at September 05, 2009 08:41 PM (cxGtL)

39 How long are the congress shits going to insist on pandering to the minority? Things are going to get really ugly for them if they continue down this path. Not that I mind, I'm just astounded that their instinct for self-preservation isn't kicking in as yet.

Posted by: Dang Straights at September 05, 2009 08:42 PM (237hn)

40 Where was this video taken? Who was the douche bag she was talking to you?

Posted by: CDR M at September 05, 2009 08:43 PM (cvmTR)

41 Posted by: Barry Popik at September 05, 2009 08:34 PM (IAfOx)

Wow. Let me guess, you're new here, ain't ya? Nothing sells like patronizing.

Posted by: Dang Straights at September 05, 2009 08:43 PM (237hn)

42 Who she's talking to?

Posted by: EC at September 05, 2009 08:35 PM

From the YouTube video:

Bremerton resident and blogger Keli Carender challenges Norm Dicks to come and take the first $20 for healthcare from her. He refuses. Shot at his August 31st, 2009 town hall meeting in Bremerton, WA.

Posted by: Michael in MI at September 05, 2009 08:44 PM (ObTcs)

43 "You do it every day." Totally awesome! So simple, so effective.

Posted by: Girl Thursday at September 05, 2009 08:44 PM (YHtrf)

44 29 Who she's talking to?

The youtube description says: "Bremerton resident and blogger Keli Carender challenges Norm Dicks to come and take the first $20 for healthcare from her. He refuses. Shot at his August 31st, 2009 town hall meeting in Bremerton, WA. "

Amazing!

Posted by: reginaldL at September 05, 2009 08:44 PM (djYem)

45 blogger Keli Carender

Damn Ace, see if she'll work for bacon and valu-rite. At least link to her.

heh heh - 'dicks' heh

Posted by: Dang Straights at September 05, 2009 08:45 PM (237hn)

46 today i threw away a pound of bacon, i laughed

spam baby, its so much better

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 05, 2009 08:21 PM (Q9JwA)

And on International Bacon Day of all days. For shame!

Posted by: M�tenloch at September 05, 2009 08:47 PM (+bl0R)

47 Excellent.

Posted by: Shannon at September 05, 2009 08:47 PM (E7VVH)

48 I'm just astounded that their instinct for self-preservation isn't kicking in as yet.

The dimmer ones undoubtedly view this as a "blip" and are still under the (false) impression that Obama was elected for the reasons the left likes to claim and there there still exists a "mandate" (which never existed).

Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 05, 2009 08:48 PM (k1urC)

49 What an utter coward that congressman is. He should have taken it and turned the stunt back upon her... claiming he would donate it to Quadraplegics Without Wheelchairs or something. But these elitist clowns acting like landed nobles can't even stand up to... a girl. She has four times the testicles of this elected pettifogging congresscreep.

He "can't accept a donation like that?" Why the farking fark not? I'm sure he can accept thousands from union bosses, and has. One lousy double sawbuck from some gap-toothed neanderthal? A peon? A teabagger?

That's how they think of someone as gutsy as her. But this wankspittle of a congressman just can't make the grade.

Putz.

Posted by: George Orwell at September 05, 2009 08:48 PM (AZGON)

50 She is AWESOME! I have a feeling that there are going to be a lot of $20's out in the air on the 12th of September. Pelosi will probably take 'em anyway.

Posted by: CDR M at September 05, 2009 08:49 PM (cvmTR)

51 My proctologist would agree that this congressman is an asshole.

Posted by: Bulldada at September 05, 2009 08:51 PM (Jt0Jh)

52 Norm Dicks.

Thought it looked like Rangel.

Good on her!

"plunder"

Nice.

Posted by: eman at September 05, 2009 08:51 PM (AKepb)

53 No Bulldada, he is a Dick!

Posted by: CDR M at September 05, 2009 08:52 PM (cvmTR)

54 That's funny you say that eman, I thought Rangel too but then I thought if it was Rangel, he would've taken it to offset his tax burden.

Posted by: CDR M at September 05, 2009 08:52 PM (cvmTR)

That eleven minute, self-imposed time out was worth it!

Hey,you , White house; HAHAAA UR SHERUAHHAA..

Posted by: rblancard at September 05, 2009 08:53 PM (oqwg1)

56 So, so off-topic: HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA! We're DOOMED! DOOMED, I say!

Posted by: Dang Straights at September 05, 2009 08:54 PM (237hn)

Mr. Congressman, go ahead. Skin it. Skin that smokewagon. Throw down, boy, get to work. (I use "skin that smokewagon" a lot at my office and I work in a law firm.)

BTW I see there's an interesting entry in the Urban Dictionary for "Chuck Johnson."

http://tinyurl.com/awrvl9

Posted by: Crusty at September 05, 2009 08:54 PM (qzgbP)

this looks like it might be her site: redistributingknowledge blogspot com Put periods in where the spaces are.

also found this at a Seattle site http://tinyurl.com/nyqbes that talks about her

Posted by: Cyn at September 05, 2009 08:55 PM (cxzu3)

59 I hate to be Johnny McObvious, but since it *seems* you don't know what he's saying, it's "ha-ha, charade ya are."

Which is always fun to say to Obama.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2009 08:55 PM (TkYWo)

60 i linked her blog and that interview in the post.

I mean, assuming its hers.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2009 08:56 PM (TkYWo)

Hi Barry! Thanks for the history lesson. We can always use smart people around here, but you came in the door kinda puffed up. Hope that was just a one-off. This chick is cool. I agree her prison orange top was a little off-putting, but she had a big ole bruise on her bicep that tells me she probably would be willing to scrap. Honorary moronette?

Posted by: di butler at September 05, 2009 08:57 PM (bP+aw)

Is this a blog war?

Because it sure as hell smells like one.

Rock on!

Posted by: Who Knows at September 05, 2009 08:57 PM (7FgWm)

63 Actually it's: Ha Ha. Allah Akhbar.

Posted by: Johnny McObvious at September 05, 2009 08:58 PM (cxGtL)

i linked her blog and that interview in the post.

I mean, assuming its hers.

I should know by now not to just scroll down when I hit F5 and look to see if you've posted anything new. Doh!

Posted by: Cyn at September 05, 2009 08:58 PM (cxzu3)

65 She has four times the testicles of this elected pettifogging congresscreep.

and she does this organizing and speaking in the liberal state of Washington no less. She organized the Seattle protest against the porkulus bill as well. Yea, she has balls.

Posted by: Cheri at September 05, 2009 08:59 PM (llSaz)

66 I should know by now not to just scroll down when I hit F5 and look to see if you've posted anything new. Doh!

Seconded. doh!

Posted by: Dang Straights at September 05, 2009 09:01 PM (237hn)

67 Keli for Kongress!

Posted by: Cyn at September 05, 2009 09:01 PM (cxzu3)

68 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_take_it

""Come and take it" was a slogan used in the Texas Revolution in 1835."

Posted by: I sea kittens at September 05, 2009 09:02 PM (bAL0J)

69 we had a guy stand up in our townhall in kenbridge va & say he might run against the congressman (Dem Perriello, 5th CD Va). the citizen is neither a Republican nor Democrat.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at September 05, 2009 09:03 PM (TEIZr)

Yes,you are correct,once again,Johnny McObvious.

It's all good .

Your stuff is really firing on all cylinders.

Keep up the Hy-test brother,cause she's real fast.

Posted by: rblancard at September 05, 2009 09:04 PM (oqwg1)

71 Ace, for future reference it's spelled Poughkeepsie. Don't disrespect my town with an incorrect spelling. Better yet, don't disrespect it by having fake-CJ mention it. It makes me sad to think that I used to read his site every day.

Posted by: Shivv at September 05, 2009 09:04 PM (00mcl)

72 The path of the low carb has been good for Ace's gung fu.

Posted by: Dang Straights at September 05, 2009 09:05 PM (237hn)

73 Cyn & Ace-

Not sure that's Liberty Belle; doesn't look like her; and the voice doesn't sound right either. Perhaps I'm wrong; last time I saw her she was dressed as Alice in Wonderland at the April 15th Tea Party.

Posted by: Linlithgow at September 05, 2009 09:07 PM (xpBkP)

It makes me sad to think that I used to read his site every day.

It's true. He's a big loss in terms of technical expertise, as well as in other manners.

Posted by: jdub at September 05, 2009 09:11 PM (+lGN/)

75 Completely off-topic, but it'll have to do:

http://tinyurl.com/kwlvfg

Anyone surprised?

http://tinyurl.com/m4legq

Don't need helicopters if you've got no troops, I guess.

Damn, it's a shame this software doesn't handle links better.

Posted by: JEM at September 05, 2009 09:11 PM (G8Eo0)

76 We can certainly do better than this unsophisticated and Palinistic behavior.

Posted by: Peggy Noonan at September 05, 2009 09:11 PM (AKepb)

77 You all know she's a creationist, right?

Posted by: charles johnson at September 05, 2009 09:12 PM (HWySf)

and also, i agree. it's nice to have ace fighting the good fight on a sat. night.

Posted by: jdub at September 05, 2009 09:13 PM (+lGN/)

79 About this Texas war cry "Come and take it" subtopic, I'm not at all sure she isn't just using a common phrase. It doesn't have to be a reference to mid-19th c. Texas history. If she was from Texas, it would be more convincing, but she's not. She's from Washington. Having taught Social Studies in Washington, I can tell you they don't learn much about Texas history there. It's all Lewis and Clark and the Oregon Trail.

Posted by: Johnny McObvious at September 05, 2009 09:14 PM (cxGtL)

80 You know Dum Dum would've taken the $20.

Posted by: CDR M at September 05, 2009 09:15 PM (cvmTR)

81 In the five minutes I spent trying to link her blog to this, you all had updated and done it. She's great, isn't she? Maybe that's why she's away from blogging for the weekend. Beck's calling.
It's not that expensive to file for a place on the ballot, if I'm right. Let everyone who can file in his/her district, for any office where the rep cannot or will not respond to constituents. "Write in my name on the ballot, and together we will choose our rep, not a party machine."

Posted by: maureen at September 05, 2009 09:15 PM (H1OS+)

82 Well done, young lady!

Posted by: rawmuse at September 05, 2009 09:15 PM (RlGo3)

83 But these elitist clowns acting like landed nobles can't even stand up to... a girl. She has four times the testicles of this elected pettifogging congresscreep.

They aren't used to the people standing up to them. They are our leaders and damn it we plebes should know better.

For once it looks like we've told the State Media where to shove their narrative and no one on the Left is sure about how to respond.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 05, 2009 09:16 PM (N4HN8)

84 She's an Illuminati of Bavaria!! Look at the symbols on the counterfeit Federal Reserve scrip she uses to buy off the Jewish Banking Congressman, who is really one of the Greys in disguise!!!

Chemtrails! Chemtrails!

Posted by: A fan of LGF at September 05, 2009 09:16 PM (AZGON)

Let's use it anyway, Johnny McObvious. You don't like it.

I like it as a rallying cry. Short, and similar to "Pry it out of my cold, dead hands."

I like it a lot.

"Come and get it."

Posted by: Who Knows at September 05, 2009 09:18 PM (7FgWm)

86 Crusty

Skin it. Skin that smokewagon. Throw down, boy, get to work.

One of the best lines ever.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at September 05, 2009 09:19 PM (BocoR)

87 Let the flames burn..(from a previous thread)

Posted by: JavaJoe at September 05, 2009 09:21 PM (Am6n/)

88 You must be crying over CJ's expos� of your being a terrible person. Now he's going to go ride his bike 36.73 miles and blog about it and get 600 comments telling him how awesome he is and he'll be able to sleep tonight.

Posted by: chaos at September 05, 2009 09:22 PM (mFUln)

89 Notice that the congressman snidely stated at the end, "Sorry I can't accept contributions." What a sorry piece of...

Posted by: captainfish at September 05, 2009 09:22 PM (H+bUa)

90 Ok, let us guess some of the upcoming Lefty hits on her.

"crude, redneck stunt"

"mean-spirited and crass"

"racist"

"distracting"

"disruptive"

and worst of all,

"tea baggy"

Posted by: eman at September 05, 2009 09:22 PM (AKepb)

91 Not sure why it does that but...again

Posted by: JavaJoe at September 05, 2009 09:23 PM (Am6n/)

92 I spent a lot of time on Charles' site, myself. But he did lead lots of uninformed people like myself to other (daresay better) sites, such as this one. Once the Palin-bashing and "Christianist" comments started to multiply, that was it. I didn't wait to be dumped. Even the people who told me about LGF bailed a long time ago.

Posted by: maureen at September 05, 2009 09:23 PM (H1OS+)

93 I'd say, from listening to her for an entire two and a half minutes, she's probably aware of the usage of 'molon labe' in classical history, the more recent 'come n take it' Texas version, and the common usage of staunch 2nd amendmenters. I think she knowingly used the phrase because it would appeal to people who were 'listening' so to speak.

But then I've been throwing beers since halftime of the OSU/GA game, so what the hell do I know?

Posted by: Dang Straights at September 05, 2009 09:25 PM (a/20E)

johnny mcobvious: you realize that lewis & clark are virginians, right? and as much as we are proud of them here, i'm beginning to see the wisdom & use of Texas' "come & take it".

damn, aren't we proud Texas is one of us?

Posted by: kelley in virginia at September 05, 2009 09:26 PM (TEIZr)

95 "Even the people who told me about LGF bailed a long time ago."

Anyone who isn't a toolbag dumped CJ and his shrill ego a while back, good job.

Posted by: chaos at September 05, 2009 09:26 PM (mFUln)

96 The sad part is that they will take the money. Oh, yeah. Hell, they've got squads of guys with guns and badges that will come right up to your door, arriving by helicopter if necessary, and bash the door down. They will take the money, the liberty, maybe even your life.

Posted by: rawmuse at September 05, 2009 09:26 PM (RlGo3)

97 So, would the "effed-up old hag" at 3:15 in the Floyd tune refer to Pelosi?

Whodathunk Roger Waters was a prophet?

Posted by: red speck at September 05, 2009 09:28 PM (/vfpn)

98 79 About this Texas war cry "Come and take it" subtopic, I'm not at all sure she isn't just using a common phrase.

Posted by: Johnny McObvious

I have to agree, we may be overanalyzing it as if it were an exclusive phrase. Is it Texas Revolution, or Leonidas, or Charlton Heston? Or is it just some gutsy lady boiling this socialist healthcare plan down to what it really is--theft--and standing in defiance against that theft? As I myself used to say on the gun control debate forums, if you think my guns should be taken away from me, come get them yourselves, hippies, see what happens.

Posted by: Crusty at September 05, 2009 09:29 PM (qzgbP)

99 Damn morons, I am in the middle of a Texas turdfloater that's dumping about an inch of rain every other minute and throwing enough lightning to knock out the lights during the in betweens. Just thought you should know.

Posted by: Dang Straights at September 05, 2009 09:29 PM (a/20E)

100 #96
The truly pernicious part is they don't need guns or boots to do this. They can, sitting at a keyboard, simply take the money out of your bank or garnish your wages or put a lien on your property. Whatever form a revolution may take, it won't be one with guns. It may be one of building an whole underground economy, separate from officaldom.

Posted by: George Orwell at September 05, 2009 09:29 PM (AZGON)

101

FYI...9/11 Conspiracy Special on National Geographic Channel tonight (now) 9-11p.

"9/11: Science and Conspiracy"

Posted by: CJ at September 05, 2009 09:31 PM (JQtNT)

102 >>>o, would the "effed-up old hag" at 3:15 in the Floyd tune refer to Pelosi?

Thatcher, alas.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2009 09:31 PM (TkYWo)

103 whole underground economy, separate from officaldom.

It's coming. If/when healthcare gets rationed, doctors, PAs, and nurses will be opening up underground clinics. Individuals are already selling reloaded ammo in bulk, not to mention firearms.

Posted by: Dang Straights at September 05, 2009 09:32 PM (a/20E)

104

Okay - REAL SIMPLE. Someone with an unbanned account simply go to LGF and ask:

"Charles, regardless of whether Van Jones is or is not a truther, do you think he should be or remain President Obama's "green czar"? Yes or no?

Posted by: JDW at September 05, 2009 09:33 PM (L+u9U)

105 The Left will be calling her a c__t by tomorrow.

Posted by: Kensington at September 05, 2009 09:33 PM (euXQ0)

106 Here is a reenactment of what Ace did to Chucky today.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at September 05, 2009 09:33 PM (BocoR)

107 I love this new comment format.

Posted by: I Love Bold at September 05, 2009 09:33 PM (5I0Yr)

108 Origin of "Come and Take it" (in Texas).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gonzales

Posted by: SouthTexas at September 05, 2009 09:38 PM (fgIe5)

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He might say he should be booted. He mentions other bad stuff about Van Jones but on this particular point he's being egotistically stubborn.

He was right of the gate asserting that Jones never signed nothin'. When Jones confirmed he had signed it, he felt trapped (can't admit error) and slid into a new defense, "He was deceived."

Note that Jones has made NEITHER claim himself. He never said he didn't sign it, and never said he was deceived. He said he didn't "review the petition carefully," which faults only himself, and hints not of outside deception.

But Johnson is now emotionally and egotistically invested in salvaging part of his original contention and so feels free to assert defenses that Van Jones himself won't assert.

Because Jones knows they're untrue.

How Johnson doesn't fail to realize that -- that if the defenses CJ suggests were available to Jones, he'd, um, avail himself of them -- is beyond me.

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Posted by: Z as in Jersy at September 05, 2009 09:40 PM (ftVJU)

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No, I'm not new here at all. Sorry about the tone.

"Come and Take It" is on Hot Air and Ace of Spades. I see the original posts on two conservative blog websites, I see all the comments on both sites, and geez, no one's from Texas? No one remembers these words?

That's all.

If you want to know more about who I am and what I've done and where I'm coming from, it's a long, long story.

I'm a contributor to the Yale Book of Quotations, and I was more than a little disappointed (but not surprised) that "Come and Take It" is not there.

Posted by: Barry Popik at September 05, 2009 09:41 PM (IAfOx)

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Posted by: Dang Straights at September 05, 2009 09:49 PM (OZ80j)

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Posted by: Cheri at September 05, 2009 09:50 PM (llSaz)

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Posted by: bob_hussein_dole at September 05, 2009 09:51 PM (DLaJY)

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Posted by: Corona at September 05, 2009 09:52 PM (+xghX)

116 I knew someone was going to say it was woodblock.

Sounds like cowbell to me though, though I guess I couldn't tell them apart.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2009 09:53 PM (TkYWo)

117 Seems MarshmallahPundit called this one right-ish.

Posted by: Johnathan E. at September 05, 2009 09:55 PM (dQdrY)

118 As a native Texan who is currently in the communist territory of Illinois, I went on to the intertubes and purchased a 'Gonzales Flag' not long after BO was immaculated.

I flew it one morning on my way to work. My wife called me first thing and said, 'What the hell is this thing flying from our flagpole?'

I often forget that denizens of the lesser 49 aren't as educated in Texas history as they should be. If i remember correctly from my school days, we were the only state that joined the union via a treaty. Dave-in-Texas should correct me on this.

'Come and Take It' is a great motto that we should adopt for all resistance against gov't intrusions into our lives. Not only is it historically grounded, it serves as a not-so-gentle reminder to liberals that we're the ones with the guns.

I love emphasizing that fact whenever I talk to a lib.

Posted by: phat at September 05, 2009 09:56 PM (pcdb+)

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What is laughable is that all of these left wing intellectuals went to a web-site called 911/Truth.org a site soley attributed to the fantasy that the Federal Government was responsible for 9/11 are now claiming that they were either misled or didn't understand that a petition they were signing claimed the Federal Government caused 9/11.

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This storm just parked over Ft. Bend county for an hour, it was pretty impressive. And we absolutely need the rain, the skeeters aren't any bigger than hummingbirds this season from the drought. Poor things.

Posted by: Dang Straights at September 05, 2009 09:58 PM (OZ80j)

122 I have a question? I just went to the 24 hr. mart to pick up some things and there was another customer there with a 9/11 inside job t shirt on. Do I denounce the 24 hr mart, the customer or both?

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Posted by: Johnathan E. at September 05, 2009 10:01 PM (dQdrY)

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Did you bring back enough beer for all of us? If not, you need to denounce yourself.

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Posted by: robtr at September 05, 2009 10:00 PM (H60q6)

Was it a chain store? You might get to denounce even the investors in the company. Score.

Posted by: Johnathan E. at September 05, 2009 10:03 PM (dQdrY)

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Posted by: John Galt at September 05, 2009 10:03 PM (Ylv1H)

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Posted by: navycopjoe at September 05, 2009 10:07 PM (dPpSr)

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Nawww, thats much too mundane, do something more fun. Put on some sunglasses (especially at night) and wait outside by the truthers car, maybe taking down their license plate or something. When they get in, be as conspicuous as possible while trying to act invisible. As they drive away, whip out the cell and stand in the street eyeballing them so they can see you in the rearview.

Posted by: Dang Straights at September 05, 2009 10:07 PM (OZ80j)

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The youtube description says: "Bremerton resident and blogger Keli Carender challenges Norm Dicks to come and take the first $20 for healthcare from her. He refuses. Shot at his August 31st, 2009 town hall meeting in Bremerton, WA. "

wow, when I watched that on Hotair, I had no idea she was from the Puget Sound. I'm going to have to watch that again! Sniff! For the second time in my adult life I am proud to be a Washingtonian!

Posted by: runningrn at September 05, 2009 10:10 PM (D2il9)

131 I just thought of something, my picture is right next to the Truther on the store security cam. I'd better go get the tape before Charles finds it.

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Posted by: runningrn at September 05, 2009 10:13 PM (D2il9)

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Posted by: Y-not at September 05, 2009 10:19 PM (sey23)

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We learned about "Come and take it" in our junior high Texas History class.

I like the cut of this girl's jib.

Posted by: Countrysquire at September 05, 2009 10:19 PM (YFLrb)

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Posted by: Shannon at September 05, 2009 10:18 PM (E7VVH)

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Posted by: runningrn at September 05, 2009 10:21 PM (D2il9)

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Posted by: The Commissar of Love at September 05, 2009 10:23 PM (oEAm5)

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Bradford got knocked out of the game at the end of the first half with a shoulder injury.

Posted by: Y-not at September 05, 2009 10:24 PM (sey23)

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Posted by: Shannon at September 05, 2009 10:25 PM (E7VVH)

142 Virginia Tech ahead of Bama 17-16 at halftime.

Posted by: joncelli at September 05, 2009 10:28 PM (vPMF5)

143 This is good stuff.

Why hide behind the IRS, Congressman? Own up and do it yourself, bitch.

Posted by: MlR at September 05, 2009 10:29 PM (op9m5)

144 Does anyone have Charles Johnson's email?

Posted by: jason at September 05, 2009 10:31 PM (8hqJt)

145

Can somebody tell me why nobody at these townhalls mentions Michelle Obama?

My Congressman is an R and good on this, but I'd love to stand up and start railing about overpaid executives.

If you tell the story of Michelle -- paid 6 digits at a hospital for a non-job because she's married to an obscure state senator then has her salary tripled because he gets elected to the US Senate, you'd have the libs on your side until the coup de grace, when you reveal who you're talking about.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 05, 2009 10:34 PM (FWbHu)

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Posted by: phat at September 05, 2009 10:36 PM (pcdb+)

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Shannon, I live in beautiful Kirkland, right across the lake from you. Wow, I am shocked, absolutely shocked how many morons there are in Seattle--you, PGIS, Joan, Andrewsdad, Editor, Ghengis and assorted others. Trish use to live down in the South end too until Boeing moved her husband's job over to D.C. Do you live downtown or are you on Capital Hill? I work at Swedish.

Posted by: runningrn at September 05, 2009 10:36 PM (D2il9)

148 runningrn - I'm downtown a short walk to the waterfront, Market and the stadiums but work in Queen Anne. There are a fair number of us here - I wonder how many more there are that don't comment!

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Wow...old CJ got what he deserved.

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Posted by: Tim Spear at September 05, 2009 10:57 PM (63mnp)

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Posted by: stuiec at September 05, 2009 11:05 PM (f0O9k)

155 As a former band geek, I can attest that Ace has it right. Pigs uses a cowbell, it is just cupped in the hand to make that unique sound.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 05, 2009 11:06 PM (Poe30)

156

140 It was awfully close with Bradford in there...

Posted by: susanita at September 05, 2009 11:07 PM (1/dSV)

157 144 Does anyone have Charles Johnson's email?

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Posted by: Crusty at September 05, 2009 11:38 PM (qzgbP)

159 About this Texas war cry "Come and take it" subtopic, I'm not at all sure she isn't just using a common phrase.

I thought this was an LOTR reference, didn't Arwen say this when she was facing down all 9 Nazgul on the border of Rivendell?

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 05, 2009 11:44 PM (TnUnj)

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Posted by: OregonMuse at September 05, 2009 11:48 PM (TnUnj)

161 One sure way to know that the Republican Party isn't behind the town hallers is that the more the DemSM attacks our side, the more we hit back. The GOP no-brain trust would back down the first time the DemSM calls them meanies

Posted by: kbdabear at September 05, 2009 11:51 PM (0Lv+U)

162 Come and take it?

I forthwith dub the gal in the video: Gen. Patten Leather

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Posted by: 13times at September 05, 2009 11:52 PM (1xzc3)

163 What I can't get over is many congressman like confessed athiest Pete Stark from California, who has five kids, would be willing to sell out their children to advance their careers and personal agenda's. Note of interest; The leading contributor to Pete stark's re-election campaign were health care professionals. These people are rotten to the fucking core.

Posted by: Mot at September 05, 2009 11:56 PM (R5Upi)

164 she did do a more effective job rhetorically than John McCain ever did and certainly a better takedown of socialism.

Posted by: ed at September 05, 2009 11:58 PM (wCOXd)

165 Yes to the Rivendell "come and take it" and Gandalf "you shall not pass" is from another historic battle "they shall not pass".

Posted by: 13times at September 06, 2009 12:00 AM (1xzc3)

166 She said "Plunder"! I'm not spinning in my grave, I'm rising. Part of me, anyway.

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Posted by: Comrade Bastiat at September 06, 2009 12:03 AM (zPQon)

Posted by: sdf at September 06, 2009 12:09 AM (gk9pP)

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Posted by: sandbagger at September 06, 2009 12:22 AM (rSiKU)

169 I just felt bad that she lost her composure a bit when the union creeps interrupted her, though she met them head on and gracefully.

Posted by: Tattoo DePlane at September 06, 2009 12:24 AM (b+cwQ)

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Posted by: Tattoo DePlane at September 06, 2009 12:25 AM (b+cwQ)

171 US APNewsAlert

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I remember when I craved an account at LGF, but then he went all anti-Christian and pro Muslim and I never used it. Until tonight......

Just curious...one sign at a tea party makes us all Truthers? It is an open debate and all are welcome to join. The only thing that Beck has spoken to has been the truth. Something that is quite lacking on your site for the past year.

A question for you Charles...irregardless of the accusations of trutherism. Do you or do you not, given his past history from everything to communism to eco-terrorism, feel that there is or is not a bounty of evidence to support his resignation? I challenge you to answer this question.

And oh by the way, commenting here sucks. I thought you were the computer "guru". It took me five minutes to post something that could be done in 30 seconds elsewhere.

Let's see how long it takes me get banned.

By the way, is anyone but me troubled by the way that everyone is taking credit for the Van Jones info. Beck did the heavy lifting (Jones has been a topic for at least 4 weeks), no one is giving him credit for it and now all the conservatives are jumping on the bandwagon and not giving Beck credit for it?

Posted by: redwhiteandblue at September 06, 2009 12:42 AM (rXEkY)

173 When the right finally masters political theater. the left will be well and truly screwed.

We've always had the better arguments, they've had the better theater.

Soon, thanks to people like this young woman, we'll have a cadre of people who can present the superior argument in a way that captures the publi's attention.

Posted by: DelD at September 06, 2009 01:59 AM (Squ5M)

174 If I wasn't already married I would want to go courtin' that fine young Lady.

That is some damn fine ass-whuppin.

Posted by: sifty at September 06, 2009 02:21 AM (BtN0s)

175 Damn. So this is how Squeaky Fromme is spending her time out on parole. Damn.

Posted by: vafainculo at September 06, 2009 03:47 AM (Qc93O)

176 "popped a boner". Awesome. That's so 8th grade. We used to say some funny shit.

Posted by: LtE113(Mike in Chicago) at September 06, 2009 07:22 AM (3NFq/)

177

I'm always way late to the party. I just had to say how awesome this young woman was. When I see someone like her who gets it and can articulate it in public, I feel a little bit better about our country's future.

God Bless you, whoever you are!

Posted by: Jade Sea at September 06, 2009 10:27 AM (OnHM3)

178

Outstanding. Nice to see someone of her age and local speaking out so eloquently and telling that sanctimonious sack of shit to COME AND TAKE IT. That is going to be my signage for the next rally here in Portland East, Asheville, NC. YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!

Posted by: Theresa, MSgt (ret), USAF at September 06, 2009 10:59 AM (TpdcL)

179 "79 About this Texas war cry "Come and take it" subtopic, I'm not at all sure she isn't just using a common phrase. It doesn't have to be a reference to mid-19th c. Texas history. If she was from Texas, it would be more convincing, but she's not. She's from Washington. Having taught Social Studies in Washington, I can tell you they don't learn much about Texas history there. It's all Lewis and Clark and the Oregon Trail.

Posted by: Johnny McObvious at September 05, 2009 09:14 PM (cxGtL)"

I found that she was born in El Paso, Tx...does that make her from Texas?

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"Come and take them" is what the 300 Spartans said when the million-strong Persian army told them to turn over their weapons during the Battle of Thermopylae. You know, they made a movie about it called "300."

The quote, circa 480 BC, has been used in varying forms many, many times since. My brother-in-law, former Delta Force, has it tattooed in Greek on his arm.

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