Okay, Charles, I Hereby Demand that Jason Rink Resign from the Speech He Already Gave at the Cincinnati Tea Party

Let me guess, though: You're not going to make a similar call for Van Jones' resignation, eh?

F'n' weak, man.

It's amazing to me that this guy can sit here all day talking around the subject without actually addressing it squarely.

You got pwned, man. Gulled. Rooked.

And I don't mean by me. I mean by your ego.

You continue quoting Truthers as character witnesses for Van Jones despite the Charles Johnson Axiom "Truthers Lie."

This is like arguing with a woman of the more irrational sort.

1) The actual subject of the dispute cannot and must not be discussed; it can only be implied

2) Any time you start to hone in on a central flaw in the argument, poof, the topic of the conversation is strangely changed to something else entirely


3) Under no circumstances can error be admitted. At most, a series of strategic walkbacks and backpedals are permitted. Such as, I don't know, moving from the claim "he didn't sign the petition" to "okay, he signed a petition, but not the one actually published" to "okay maybe he was lied to about the contents of the petition and could not spare two minutes from his busy schedule to see what he was endorsing."

and

4) Take it all very personally.

So yes, I wholeheartedly call for the ouster of Jason Rink, whoever the hell that is, from his exalted position of giving a speech at a single Tea Party in Cincinnati. I further call for a Congressional investigation to find out why Nobody Number Two appointed Nobody Number One to this most-high posting.

And I guess I cop to the "hypocrisy" of not being upset that someone I never heard of five minutes ago (and neither did you, of course) spoke at an event I didn't even know was going on.

And I concede it's "hypocritical" of me to do that because Jason Rink, no-name no-account nobody from nowhere, occupies precisely the same stratum in the public policy pecking order as Truther Van Jones, green jobs "czar" to Obama, controlling $30 billion of the public fisc.

Wow, dude, you've pwn3d me. You've like totally teabagged us all, Halo-style. Take a victory lap, dude.

Allow me a blasphemy:

Jesus. Christ. All. Mighty.

Friggin' pathetic.

You have time to post this nonsense but not a moment to mention that Zinn and Lerner, the alibi witnesses in your absurd defense, turn out to be confirmed Truthers, eh?

Truthers lie.

And they ain't the only ones.

I Am Happy... that I used to post on political forums, where I would have to engage with opponents. This is something a blogger really doesn't have to do if he wishes to avoid it, as you can see in the current situation.

Anyway, what I'm grateful for about that is that I got beaten in arguments all the time. My facts were wrong or my thinking was wrong. Either way, I was wrong.

But the thing is -- I got used to it. It sucks to be wrong. It really does. And it sucks even more to be wrong publicly, or at least on the internet, where you're sure everyone is laughing at you for being so terribly wrong.

But again -- I got used to it.

And I got used to saying something that's kept me in good stead ever since.

I'm wrong.

Or sometimes:

I don't know if I'm wrong but I'm starting to feel like I'm on shaky ground here.

Do that five or six times and it doesn't really hurt so much anymore.

And doing that spares you the incredible embarrassment of forever backpedalling and recalibrating and changing the topic and deliberately ignoring the point and screaming YOU DO IT TOO and all the rest of the infantile 3rd-grade behavior the internet tends to encourage.

Posted by: Ace at 07:34 PM



Comments

1 If I had bet you $10,000 in 2004 that in 2009 a high-ranking adviser to
the president would be outed as a 9-11 Truther and Charles Johnson
would defend him, would you have taken that bet?

Posted by: V the K at September 05, 2009 07:37 PM (yxBaM)

2 Just a bit of cheap advice. Let Chuckie rage with his own personal demons. Don't let him drag you down.

Posted by: Techie at September 05, 2009 07:38 PM (cxW4X)

3 yeah... well.

What you also have to consider is that I've stirred up a beehive and that if I don't do CJ posts, there are going to be Off-topic CJ comments in other posts, which I've gotten complaints about.

In addition, this is just... spectacularly weak shit, man.

It's *not even* weak shit.

I know weak shit. I've worked with weak shit. And you, Mr. Johnson, are not even giving me weak shit.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2009 07:40 PM (TkYWo)

4 CHARLES JOHNSON VAN JONES-SHARMUTA THESE MEANIES HATE ME WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
SHARMUTA-WHATCHA WANT ME TO DO?
CHARLES JOHNSON-GO TO ACES HOUSE AND STRAIGHTEN HIM OUT
SHARMUTA-YES BOSS AND WHEN I GET BACK I WANT TO HAVE A THREESOME WITH YOU ANDMANDY MANNERS

Posted by: Yoshimitsu at September 05, 2009 07:41 PM (jN0xZ)

5 "Rooked"? Wow, that's a word you don't hear every day. +1 for SAT vocabulary.

Posted by: Ace's liver at September 05, 2009 07:41 PM (LtIsn)

6
Okay Ace, ease down Ripley, ease down. You've gone from totally pwning the ponytailed douchebag to picking the last shreds of flesh from his sun-bleached bones like a ravenous vulture.
As if ripping his head off and skullfucking him in your prior posts wasn't enough.

Posted by: Blazer at September 05, 2009 07:42 PM (AoS9J)

7 O/T but did you all see this amazing video John Stossel did on 20/20 in July about health care reform? Any of you morons who have people debate you and point to the Canadian system as the paragon we need to imitate, need to use this in your arsenal. Frickin' awesome. (I'm quite surprised he still has a job, actually). Here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/mozuy8

Posted by: runningrn at September 05, 2009 07:43 PM (D2il9)

8
Ouch.

The fact that Ace is including yootoob vids with his smackdowns shows Ace is having fun with this.

And. That. Must. Burn. Mr Johnson's. Arse.

Posted by: Tweet & The Cruisers at September 05, 2009 07:43 PM (tMSKg)

9 You've gone from totally pwning the ponytailed douchebag to picking the
last shreds of flesh from his sun-bleached bones like a ravenous
vulture.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: Amused Observer at September 05, 2009 07:44 PM (EbqoB)

10 This is like arguing with a woman of the more irrational sort.
You know, I hate to admit it, but that's an excellent analogy.

Posted by: alexthechick at September 05, 2009 07:44 PM (Q9bx2)

11 Speaking of weak shit, <a href="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/showc/303/7660700">this</a> is just laughable.

Posted by: jonz at September 05, 2009 07:45 PM (mvMLh)

12 Yet teh ghey peddler is oblivious to the fact that he is a liar and leftist communist. Good times, Good times!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 07:46 PM (V2AXY)

13 You're not going to make a similar call for Van Jones' resignation, eh?

Oh, he'll call for it if it looks like it's about to happen. Thought it will be for, to borrow AP's language, a more nuanced reason then um, anything Glenn or hate-blogs has uncovered.

Posted by: Amused Observer at September 05, 2009 07:46 PM (EbqoB)

14 Well that didn't work, try this -
http://tinyurl.com/ksxxtq

Posted by: jonz at September 05, 2009 07:47 PM (mvMLh)

15 Friggin' pathetic
says it all, seems cj has gone off the deep end, i quit going to his site around the election...

Posted by: trailortrash at September 05, 2009 07:47 PM (wiDZf)

16 Let the toolbag with his 400+ echo-chamber commenters per post go. He wants the Meghan McCain treatment by disowning his own, but doesn't have the daddy to make it happen, so he needs to work twice as hard. It's kinda like 'don't feed the trolls' but in reverse.

Posted by: da kine at September 05, 2009 07:48 PM (h0UGS)

17 Lies and damned lies, teh ghey cabelero is fucked now!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 07:49 PM (V2AXY)

18 Jason Rink? THE Jason Rink? This is huge!!!

Or not. Either way, CJ is about thisclose to relapse.

Posted by: bunny boy at September 05, 2009 07:50 PM (YsSn7)

19
Ace, I got the perfect clip for you!

How To Understand Charles Johnson, explained by Jack Nicholson.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y9BukEBI9c

Posted by: Tweet & The Cruisers at September 05, 2009 07:50 PM (tMSKg)

20 Great post until the blasphemy part.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at September 05, 2009 07:51 PM (cxGtL)

21 What the hell is wrong with Johnson?

Some guy in Cincinnati who's gotten involved in the tea party movement is not the same as an appointed "Czar" serving in the President's Administration.

BTW, CJ's "not going to link" to Ace no matter how much "ranting" he does, man!

This will surely cause traffic to shrivel up!

Posted by: forest at September 05, 2009 07:51 PM (RYaox)

22 WTF? is Johson trying to make a moral equivelence argument? I didn't knowan organizerfor the Cincinatti Tea Party had an $80 Billion Federal Budget?
Next Johnson will be interviewing McCain Voters to see what he can dig up.

Posted by: robtr at September 05, 2009 07:51 PM (H60q6)

23 Perhaps Ace it is time to remove the LGF link from your site. Charles is off the deep end, and I have heard strong rumors that he and Andi Sullivan are cruising for a MSNBC gig.

Time to let him and his link walk the plank. Yes Charles, you may ban me now. I never posted under that account anyway. It's under my name.

Posted by: Dick_Nixon at September 05, 2009 07:52 PM (3o4MH)

24 I'm pretty sure I met Jason Rink at the OHNK regional airport once. He was working the Avis counter. At least his nametag said "Jason".

Is that the guy?

Posted by: Dang Straights at September 05, 2009 07:52 PM (237hn)

25 Fuck you, Ace, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you!

Master will be banning you from the Internet soon.

Posted by: Manatee No-Manners at September 05, 2009 07:52 PM (otlXg)

26
How do you understand Charles Johnson so well?

I think of a man. Then I take away reason and accountability.

Posted by: Tweet & The Cruisers at September 05, 2009 07:53 PM (tMSKg)

27 "Next Johnson will be interviewing McCain Voters to see what he can dig up."

Don't give him any ideas.

Posted by: forest at September 05, 2009 07:53 PM (RYaox)

28 Ghey peddler is like an exploded claymore steel balls in all directions to save himself, not working cockholster you are DONE!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 07:55 PM (V2AXY)

29 How do you understand Charles Johnson so well? I think of a man. Then I take away reason and accountability.
Threadwinner !

Posted by: Blazer at September 05, 2009 07:56 PM (AoS9J)

30 Ace...your beatdown of Mr. Johnson is making the rounds of the conservative side of the blogosphere. Really, it hasn't even been a fair fight. Anyway, the man who cast aspersions on Atlas Shrugs, GoV, and Robert Spencer for associating with "fascists" has no problem defending this current asministration...cognitive dissonance says, "hi"!

Posted by: jas at September 05, 2009 07:57 PM (sJaoP)

31 Has CJ be going to John Cole for pointers on Face Heel Turning?

Posted by: Techie at September 05, 2009 07:58 PM (cxW4X)

32 That's right......go to any "tea party" of 10,000..... find ONE guy with a 9-11 sign, and shazzam!........it's like it never even happened!!!

Posted by: Ad rem at September 05, 2009 07:59 PM (yPHLS)

33 Teh ghey cycle rider will be banned from conservative blogs toot sweet, he's a liar why not!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 08:00 PM (V2AXY)

34

And I got used to saying something that's kept me in good stead ever since.
I'm wrong.


As I've said at HotAir. That is what makes you the best commentator on the web, imo.

Posted by: Amused Observer at September 05, 2009 08:00 PM (EbqoB)

35
Or not. Either way, CJ is about thisclose to relapse.
With the relentless rogering he's beenrecieving up his backside today from Ace, I'd say Chuckie is closer to a prolapse.

Posted by: Blazer at September 05, 2009 08:00 PM (AoS9J)

36 Ace is delivering the smackdown of a century. Hey Ace, do you think you could tie one hand behind your back while you type to make things a little more fair?

Posted by: Andi Sullivan at September 05, 2009 08:01 PM (D2il9)

37 Please excuse me ppl from The Economist and other advertisers here, but who the fcuk is Jason Rink, or is that the whole point? What crawled up the ponytailed one'sa$$ and died? No one was bothering him and his little clique of sycophants and now he goes postal.This s#it has turned whack.Weapon's grade stupid whack. Maybe Charles needs to take a long bike ride off of a short pier or sumtin'. Geez.

Posted by: di butler at September 05, 2009 08:01 PM (bP+aw)

38 Please, please Ace don't hit that asshole with a bottle of val-u-rite next, that would hurt my feelings.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 08:02 PM (V2AXY)

39 I'd say Chuckie is closer to a prolapse.
Yes, with his uterus hanging out there on the floor, his only option is an hysterectomy. (Gleefully rubbing hands).

Posted by: Greedy Evil Uterus Stealing Doctor at September 05, 2009 08:03 PM (D2il9)

40 OT: A slogan for 2012 - Get rid of Obama to get rid of the Czars.

Posted by: Godzilla at September 05, 2009 08:03 PM (q3vJN)

41 Or not. Either way, CJ is about thisclose to relapse.
With the relentless rogering he's beenrecieving up his backside today from Ace, I'd say Chuckie is closer to a prolapse.
Posted by: Blazer at September 05, 2009 08:00 PM (AoS9J)
Freakin brilliant Blazer!

Posted by: Cyn at September 05, 2009 08:04 PM (cxzu3)

42
So......how long do you think it will be until Charles Johnson resorts to the ol' "I've been receiving death threats" deflection?

People on the defensive and who have been humiliated usually use that line when they get desperate and want their critics silenced.

Posted by: Tweet & The Cruisers at September 05, 2009 08:05 PM (tMSKg)

43 Seriously, who is hell is Jason Rink and why should I give a damn?

I'm too lazy to Google It!

Posted by: Techie at September 05, 2009 08:05 PM (cxW4X)

44 Allow me a blasphemy:
Jesus. Christ. All. Mighty.

Creationist !!

Posted by: Herr Huffy at September 05, 2009 08:05 PM (AoS9J)

45 41 Get rid of Obama to get rid of the Czars.
Oh the irony. An anti-czarist revolution to rid us of the Communists.

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 05, 2009 08:06 PM (cxGtL)

46 'Nam...

Everytime I see your name I'm thinkin' of a big plateful of "ribs"......;-) Why is that?

Posted by: Ad rem at September 05, 2009 08:07 PM (yPHLS)

47 In honor of CJ's weekend.Circle Jerks-Back Against The Wall
http://tinyurl.com/kqrvla

Posted by: Circling the drain at September 05, 2009 08:07 PM (dQdrY)

48
>>>Yes, with his uterus hanging out there on the floor...

Remember RICHARD HARRIS in ORCA?

Posted by: Tweetwing Plover at September 05, 2009 08:08 PM (tMSKg)

49
Freakin brilliant Blazer!

Thanks Cyn, I'll be here all week, and please try the fish.

Posted by: Blazer at September 05, 2009 08:08 PM (AoS9J)

50 47,

You are at one with universe grasshopper, never give up.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 08:09 PM (V2AXY)

51 I'll be here all week, and please try the fish.
Not veal??!!??

Posted by: The Shrek Restaurant Kitchen Crew at September 05, 2009 08:10 PM (cxzu3)

52 Using his logic if I go to a Michigan football game organized by Michigan that makes me a defacto Michigan fan? That is just ( lost for words)

Posted by: Patrick at September 05, 2009 08:10 PM (OpnaT)

53 Teh ghey peddler is a funny mofo huh!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 08:12 PM (V2AXY)

54 Keep talking about Jason Rink, his rookie card is increasing in value with each thread.

Posted by: Ben at September 05, 2009 08:12 PM (f0I0I)

55
Ahhh, a plate of ribs and a cold one 'neath the Texas stars with 'Nam Grunt. Heaven should be so kind.

Posted by: Blazer at September 05, 2009 08:12 PM (AoS9J)

56 i agree ace, it is time to take LGF's link off your sight, along with like 20 others that are now defunct sites.

Posted by: Ben at September 05, 2009 08:13 PM (f0I0I)

57 55 Ben,

Hahahahaha.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 08:13 PM (V2AXY)

58 Ace is beating on Chuckie like;

A: Chuckie owes hime money

B: Like a stepchild

C: All of the above

Posted by: kbdabear at September 05, 2009 08:13 PM (0Lv+U)

59 CJ has always been a moonbat and its blatantly obvious now.

Posted by: Sal at September 05, 2009 08:13 PM (lMKBV)

60 I Am Happy... that I used to post on political forums, where I
would have to engage with opponents. This is something a blogger really
doesn't have to do if he wishes to avoid it, as you can see in the
current situation.

And Charlie has clearly decided to avoid it. LGF is nothing but a creepy cult at this point. The ridiculous attempts by Charlie's boot lickers to rationalize anything he says and the demonizing and ultimate banishment of anyone who won't bow to Charlie is one of the more disturbing spectacles in the blogosphere today. Even Zombie is being looked at suspiciously there now, take a moment to think about that, Zombie is being looked upon as not of the body at LGF. That's just how mentally disturbed Charlie and his sycophants have become. It's not even a matter of LGF tilting right or left, Charlie and his followers have become an insane cult regardless of their politics.

Posted by: jonz at September 05, 2009 08:14 PM (KDLa5)

61 56,

Ok queery don't forget the bluebonnets. Heh.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 08:14 PM (V2AXY)

62 57
i agree ace, it is time to take LGF's link off your sight, along with like 20 others that are now defunct sites.

Yeh, Jenna Jameson is past 30 now and she's had kids

Posted by: kbdabear at September 05, 2009 08:14 PM (0Lv+U)

63 Ace is beating on Chuckie like;A: Chuckie owes hime moneyB: Like a stepchildC: All of the above

He's beating Chuckles like the brakes off a Dodge pickup.

Posted by: Blazer at September 05, 2009 08:16 PM (AoS9J)

64 59
Ace is beating on Chuckie like;A: Chuckie owes hime moneyB: Like a redheaded mixed-race stepchildC: All of the above

FIFY

Posted by: Mوtenloch at September 05, 2009 08:16 PM (+bl0R)

65 >>This is like arguing with a woman of the more irrational sort.
"Who throws a shoe?"

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at September 05, 2009 08:16 PM (LYTPf)

66 Truthers, Birthers, and now LGFers

Posted by: Ben at September 05, 2009 08:16 PM (f0I0I)

67 Ace beat charlie like he's on a stool with a burka at abu graib.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 08:17 PM (V2AXY)

68 "Who throws a shoe?"

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at September 05, 2009 08:16 PM (LYTPf)
Oh good...we're talkin' shoes!! Call all the moronettes!

Posted by: Tami at September 05, 2009 08:18 PM (VuLos)

69 He's not here so I'll do it for him "En Fuego"!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 08:18 PM (V2AXY)

70 Ace:

Save the LGF link, but redirect it to Ghey Donkey Pr0n

Posted by: eddiebear at September 05, 2009 08:19 PM (9pcf2)

71 @ 61

It was disgusting the way they treated Zombie.

Posted by: Sal at September 05, 2009 08:19 PM (lMKBV)

72 I just read the Cincinatti Tea Party Website. Jason Rink was a speaker there, not an organizer, not a headliner. He has something to do with another group and gave a speech at a Tea Party he didn't organize.
They also had a couple of bands there. God only knows what kind of kinky stuff those guys are into.

Posted by: robtr at September 05, 2009 08:21 PM (H60q6)

73 Anything teh ghey peddler does at lgf is disgusting lying sissy!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 08:21 PM (V2AXY)

74 Ace is beating Charles like a double fisted chimpanzee chucker!

Posted by: runningrn at September 05, 2009 08:22 PM (D2il9)

75 It was disgusting the way they treated Zombie.
people keep saying that. how about elaborating? I stopped visiting LGF about 8 months ago. I used to check him daily, the way i now check out Ace. I left about the time he was searching for oden's crosses everywhere, and everyone is apparently euro facists, even jews.I don't know it didn't make much sense.

Posted by: Ben at September 05, 2009 08:22 PM (f0I0I)

76 Darling Ace. Nicely done with the draw, quarter and fillet of CJ. Perhaps not necessary to use the nine inch boning knifeon a 1.25 ounce goldfish, but still, flawless on style points.
It would be intellectually gratifying to understand why a formerly valuable member of the team seems to have lost his place in the nexus of reality. However, with or without that information, damage control and detachment from the fiasco are our duties.
Well done, I say. Carry on.

Posted by: AskMom at September 05, 2009 08:23 PM (9NGSN)

77 I just read the Cincinatti Tea Party Website. Jason Rink was a speaker there, not an organizer, not a headliner. He has something to do with another group and gave a speech at a Tea Party he didn't organize.
They also had a couple of bands there. God only knows what kind of kinky stuff those guys are into.

I read that other speakers there said they were not told what the rally was going to be about before they spoke at the rally. And that if they offended anyone by speaking at that rally then they are sorry. They said they are not and never were tea partiers

Posted by: Ben at September 05, 2009 08:24 PM (f0I0I)

78 I wouldn't call it a beating. More like a sound thrashing.
Chuckie don't care, though, as long as he's getting attention. It's like a small child; as long as Momma is paying attention (even if she's screaming), all's right with the world.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 05, 2009 08:24 PM (P33XN)

79 Charles Johnson?

Oh jeez. Yes, I remember HIM.

I had a hell of a time getting rid of him once his time was up.

I eventually had to tell the snot to go fetch me a juice box & immediately locked the door behind him.

Every once in a while I still catch him sneaking around and peeking in the windows.

What a twat.

Posted by: Everybody's 15 Minutes of Fame at September 05, 2009 08:26 PM (4iIhs)

80 79,

Given, but it's all negative attention, and his wife perez might rip off his member because he knows he's going down. Oh wait!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 08:27 PM (V2AXY)

81
O.k. Ace, you have pwned me once again. But can you ride a tenspeed backwards with the seat removed while singing Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious ?
I didn't think so.

Posted by: Chuckles The Clown at September 05, 2009 08:27 PM (AoS9J)

82 Jason Rink?! Who in the everloving hell is Jason Rink and more importantly, who gives a flying fig? Why can't you guys disown me again???

*sniff*

Posted by: The Nech at September 05, 2009 08:27 PM (c/VUH)

83 Ace is beating Charles like a purple pepper pecker popper!
(I have no idea what that is, but it sounds fierce, plus I have a weakness for alliteration!)

Posted by: runningrn at September 05, 2009 08:27 PM (D2il9)

84 Hey cycle shithead, go get your fucking shine box!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 08:28 PM (V2AXY)

85 Yo, Ace. Just ignore him. Someone's gotta stop the school yard antics and raise the level of the discussion, here.

He slams you, you slam him and both of ya look to yer echo chamber/ high school cliques fer personal affirmation??? Tomorrow, next week, next month, you do it all over again...and then both of ya wonder why the Republican/conservatives can't get their shit together???

wtf, over?

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at September 05, 2009 08:28 PM (RYCXb)

86 Bonehead,

Hows about we ignore you dufus!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 08:30 PM (V2AXY)

87 Whoops! Charles just pointed out that Ty Cobb was a racist asshole who spiked people when sliding into second. Baseball is a fuckin' racist pasttime anyway, so fuck it. I guess Albert can lick my pujols.

Posted by: JDW at September 05, 2009 08:30 PM (L+u9U)

88 CJ just lost a game of ookie cookie with Ace. Eat up CJ, eat up.

Posted by: Ben at September 05, 2009 08:31 PM (f0I0I)

89 warren @ 86, this is the most fun I've seen Ace have in months. Let him roll.

Posted by: XBradTC at September 05, 2009 08:32 PM (NimeM)

90 Oh, and Chuckie is now carrying on that a dude had a Rebel Flag T-Shirt.

What's next?

Oh, and Warren:

One correction:
we allow discussion and differences here. You should have seen the "Rush's 4 Words" threads. Hardly an echo chamber.

Posted by: eddiebear at September 05, 2009 08:32 PM (9pcf2)

91 Gotta love this...."Killgore Trout"....(wtf name is that)......just said, "Google Tea Party 9-11 Truth. It was their movement to begin with. Conservatives joined up."

So, I googled it.....seems that a group of truthers in Boston, decided to celebrate their protest with the 234th. anniversary of the Boston Tea Party.... since they were occurring on the same dates. It happened ONE time.......so this means that forever and anon anybody using the name "tea party" is a truther?

Posted by: Ad rem at September 05, 2009 08:33 PM (yPHLS)

92
Acehas taken towearing Chuckies ponytailed scalp like a coonskin cap.
Our lovable fuzzy little Ewok is ruthless.

Posted by: Blazer at September 05, 2009 08:33 PM (AoS9J)

93 The worst part of this all is that he will easily condemn his "enemies" with the slightest evidence. But won't acknowledge people like Jones and Ayers, with actual evidence behind them, are potential douchebags. He so casually calls people facists - what a charge. But will defend others whoproclaim philosophies that prove them to be so. That shit head at jihadwatch can't link to douchebags for 30 minutes without earning Charles' endless ire. But Van Jones can sign a document on the anniversary of 9/11 and Charles will defend it to the death.

Posted by: JDW at September 05, 2009 08:33 PM (L+u9U)

94 88:

and Ty Cobb invested heavily in Coca Cola. So, according to CJ, Coke must be racist.

Posted by: eddiebear at September 05, 2009 08:34 PM (9pcf2)

95

Charles Johnson is a lying sack of shit.

In the post Ace is repsonding to, Johnson refers to Jason Rink as -

"One of the main organizers, and a featured speaker" of the Cinncinati Tea Party.

However, I went to the Cinncinati Tea Party site, and he's merely listed as one of about 20 speakers at the event. I perused the rest of the Tea Party website, and nowhere is he listed as an organizer of the event and neither is there any evidence of his affiliation with the Cinncinati Tea Party organization.

Yet Charles refers to him as "one of the main organizers." Why?

Simply because it sounds more damning to name him as an organizer of the event rather than just one of many speakers appearing at it. He's been trying to tie the Tea Party movement to some radical fringe on the right, and he found one speaker at one event with fringe beliefs and Charles decided it would bolster his case to name him as an organizer rather than simply a speaker. And he makes the claim thinking that its too incidental to be researched and refuted.

Nice try Chawlz!


Posted by: sartana at September 05, 2009 08:34 PM (xYACx)

96 Up to 976 at theBanned of Brothers with a hat tip to Kirly.
Yours truly is proudly included on the list!

Posted by: USCtizen at September 05, 2009 08:35 PM (x0kcN)

97 Ace - count me as another ex LGF 1.0'r that is glad he found AoS

I could kick myself for spending hours a day on the that pony-tailed douchebag's site from 2002-2008. At least I can admit my mistake.

STEELERS RULE

Posted by: Big Star at September 05, 2009 08:35 PM (Hq4jN)

98 Wow. Looks like ace is really giving Cahrsel Jhnonso a Bakersfield pancake, IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 05, 2009 08:35 PM (TnUnj)

99 Palomino! Palomino!!!!!!!

Posted by: Charles Johnson at September 05, 2009 08:35 PM (ty+x2)

100 Game, Set, Match to Ace! Nice job but it's like watching a fight between say Tyson and a paralyzed midget.

Posted by: CDR M at September 05, 2009 08:36 PM (cvmTR)

101 Ace - count me as another ex LGF 1.0'r that is glad he found AoSI could kick myself for spending hours a day on the that pony-tailed douchebag's site from 2002-2008. At least I can admit my mistake.STEELERS RULE

Could it be? Another AoS Pittsburgher?

Posted by: Ben at September 05, 2009 08:36 PM (f0I0I)

102 More Cowbell!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 08:36 PM (V2AXY)

103
I have a sneaking suspicion that the Steel Bone up Warren's ass belongs to Chuckie.

Posted by: Blazer at September 05, 2009 08:37 PM (AoS9J)

104 Hmmm... in October 2001, was CHARLES JOHNSON a Truther?

271 Charles Thu, Sep 3, 2009 7:21:02pm

re: #236 zombie


But what about this document released by the Ella Baker Center when Jones was the head honcho there and giving quotes from Jones' group STORM, calling 9/11 a "bombing" with the statement
"No matter who ultimately is to blame for these bombings..."
...right below a quote from Jones.
It certainly pouts his in the Truther-Zone -- flirting with Truthism.
(And the was released nearly two months after 9/11, when it was well-known who did it - -at the very beginning of the truther movement.)
That statement from STORM was released weeks after 9/11, when no one knew the full story. Lots of people were talking about the "bombing" of the World Trade Center then. That is not any kind of support for the contention that Van Jones is a Truther -- in fact, if that's all you can come up with, it reinforces my point that there is no evidence.

I wonder what finally convinced Charles that al-Qaeda terrorists piloted hijacked airliners into the World Trade Center and Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania, and that it wasn't Bush Administration operatives who blew up the buildings with planted explosives in a false-flag op?

Posted by: stuiec at September 05, 2009 08:37 PM (f0O9k)

105 What can we say about Chuck Johnson that we haven't already said?
That he always kind to animals, even after that time a squirrel ripped off one of his testicles?
That Charles Johnson is to blogging what Adolf Hitler is to the concentration camp.
That he threads his bass guitar with pubic hair?
He can ride a bike without a seat.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 05, 2009 08:37 PM (P33XN)

106 Looks like ace is really giving Cahrsel Jhnonso a Bakersfield pancake
THAT'S gonna leave a mark.

Posted by: The Shrek Restaurant Kitchen Crew at September 05, 2009 08:37 PM (cxzu3)

107 begone, puppet.

Posted by: Cyn at September 05, 2009 08:38 PM (cxzu3)

108 Johnson is ridiculous.

Posted by: ARC at September 05, 2009 08:39 PM (lmv5d)

109 Ty Cobb played for the Detroit Tigers.

Therefore, the Detroit Tigers are RACIST.

My co-workers are Tigers fans.

THEREFORE, THEY ARE RACISTS!!!!

(Hey, this is fun)

Posted by: Techie at September 05, 2009 08:39 PM (cxW4X)

110 2nd in a series...collect them all.

Posted by: JavaJoe at September 05, 2009 08:39 PM (Am6n/)

111 It was disgusting the way they treated Zombie.


people keep saying that. how about elaborating?





Zombie pointed out the inanity of Charlies argument and went on to say
that she had personal knowledge of Van Jones at 9-11 truther events around Oakland, but
couldn't be more specific because she was afraid it might reveal her
identity. Charlie and his boot lickers spent the rest of the night
essentially calling her a liar. If you're familiar with LGF, you'll know that Zombie is a long time commentor and has contributed quite a bit to LGF with her photo documentation, but all it took was not bowing down to Charlie one time and he and his insane followers threw her under the bus. It really was disgusting, but par for the course for LGF these days.

Posted by: jonz at September 05, 2009 08:40 PM (mvMLh)

112 It's fun to gloat, and I applaud Ace's brutal take down. But...what happend to Chuck? He used to be kind of cool, in a nerdy sort of way. All this has become personal for him. Some kind of Mantica Circular Side Arm.

Posted by: Max Power at September 05, 2009 08:41 PM (+wxCD)

113 Ty Cobb played baseball.
Baseballs are balls
footballs are ballls
Therefore Little Green Footballs is a racist website

Posted by: Ben at September 05, 2009 08:41 PM (f0I0I)

114 Wow. Looks like ace is really giving Cahrsel Jhnonso a Bakersfield pancake, IYKWIMAITYD.
As if the Cleveland Steamer and Jersey Turnpike Ace gave him earlier wasn't enough. CJ sure is a glutton for punishment.

Posted by: Blazer at September 05, 2009 08:42 PM (AoS9J)

115 Charles Johnson: My wife bent over and grabbing a chair in the basement.
Ace: Me giving her the Duluth Dumptruck

Posted by: eddiebear at September 05, 2009 08:42 PM (9pcf2)

116 thanks jonz, that's a shame. Hopefully Ace doesn't turn on his posters., Gabe might one day, but not ace

Posted by: Ben at September 05, 2009 08:42 PM (f0I0I)

117 Just what the hell...I mean...nuts to all of you!

Posted by: Jason Rink at September 05, 2009 08:44 PM (+WuMm)

118 He wants to discuss speakers at events? Ok, here Charles...I got yer speaker right here.

http://tinyurl.com/ko5a39

Sept. 13, 2001

Hundreds of people gathered at Snow Park in Oakland tonight to mourn,
provide support for each other, and speak out against violent United
States policies at home and abroad, which they say are the underlying
reasons for unprecedented terrorist attacks in New York City and
Washington DC. Organizing against a growing climate of racism,
nationalism and anti-Arab bigotry was a focus of the rally.

snip~

A recurring theme of the speakers was the brutal violence committed by
or supported by the United States government on a daily basis. "The
bombs the government drops in Iraq are the bombs that blew up in New
York City," said Van Jones, director of the Ella Baker Center for Human
Rights, who also warned against forthcoming violence by the Bush
Administration. "The US cannot bomb its way out of this one. Safety at
home requires justice abroad."

This must have been before he thought it was an inside job.

Posted by: Tami at September 05, 2009 08:44 PM (VuLos)

119 Ban him from your blogroll Rush and identify his site as a switch to a communist radical leftist site on air, my email to the great one just now.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 08:44 PM (V2AXY)

120 Zombies site...
http://www.zombietime.com/

Posted by: Sal at September 05, 2009 08:46 PM (lMKBV)

121 I'm proud to have been banned by CJ for saying the obvious, "LGF has jumped the shark", except for he forgot to hit the "ban" button. Almost 300 hundred posts later about who is a suitable spokesperson for the conservative message, there was only one response from his echo chamber, "Charles".

Charles has become Colonel Kurtz from Apocalypse Now, with his lizard brained followers sacrificing people daily. Too bad, he used to be sane and effective. His STD has crossed the blood brain barrier.

Posted by: LA Conservative at September 05, 2009 08:46 PM (naFed)

122 The funniest thing is that if you took Charles' posts in his own thread and attributed them to a naive 14 year old female highschool freshman, no one would challenge that. They might say, hmmm, she's a bit of a precocious kid. But they would never assume his words are those of an adult man. Seriously. He's a big fuckin' kid. Read his own shit. Read his "gotchas". They're absurd. His ban stick. His predictible sycophants. Even the way those who would like to challenge him but fear being banned will beat around the bush ALMOST disagreeing with him before saying "but I loved your point, Charles. I see what you are saying".
Charles wonders why people despise him. He thinks it's for the cogent points he makes. It's not.
1) he's an insincere mental midget. 2) he's a pussy who won't cotton to oppossing view points. 3) he pretended to be one of our guys, wasn't, and can't understand the sense of betrayal some might feel. 4) he's a grown man with a fuckin' ponytail. 5) he's actually proud of his banstick. 6) he'll accept the dumb whimsy of a two week old lizard to the point of banning someone with 17,000 posts at his own blog. 7) he's really just a bitter fuck because hotair won't send him traffic anymore. failed musicians are notorious pricks. 9) might be gay and unable to marry. I could care less if he is. But not being able to marry a man you love in California would piss off any pooh-stabber. In this I can sympathize. 10) no more radio gigs.

Posted by: JDW at September 05, 2009 08:47 PM (L+u9U)

123 Well, you ladies kinda proved my point for me, there.

Fight in the parking lot. School yard crap.

Robert Kegan. Kinda liberal, but he has a clue. It's called, "social immaturity."

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at September 05, 2009 08:47 PM (RYCXb)

124 Ace should replace the LGF link with a LGF-2 link. That would push Charles further over the edge.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at September 05, 2009 08:48 PM (muUqs)

125 "91
Oh, and Chuckie is now carrying on that a dude had a Rebel Flag T-Shirt.

What's next?"

It was a Lynard Skynard shirt, and according to CJ, it obviously wasn't anything to do about Lynard Skynard.

Posted by: TTC at September 05, 2009 08:49 PM (oNUYQ)

126 102, I'm originally from PA, but I moved to the heart of moonbattery in the SF Bay area - been a fan since 1969

Posted by: Big Star at September 05, 2009 08:50 PM (Hq4jN)

127 What can we say about Chuck Johnson that we haven't already said?

He emits a foul and unpleasant odor.

Posted by: V the K at September 05, 2009 08:50 PM (yxBaM)

128 Well, you ladies kinda proved my point for me, there. Fight in the parking lot. School yard crap. Robert Kegan. Kinda liberal, but he has a clue. It's called, "social immaturity."

If we wanted your fuckin'opinion we would have given it to you. Shinebox,.... go home an fucking get it.

Posted by: Blazer at September 05, 2009 08:51 PM (AoS9J)

129 Anyone that thinks he's smart and ruins a perfectly good blog because he has communist leanings, is really stupid! Huh ghey peddler? Ya' big sissy!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 08:52 PM (V2AXY)

130 Warren:

You a Lizard

Posted by: eddiebear at September 05, 2009 08:52 PM (9pcf2)

131 I meant 131 as a question

Posted by: eddiebear at September 05, 2009 08:54 PM (9pcf2)

132 JDW at 94
The worst part of this all is that he will easily condemn his "enemies" with the slightest evidence. But won't acknowledge people like Jones and Ayers, with actual evidence behind them, are potential douchebags. He so casually calls people facists - what a charge. But will defend others whoproclaim philosophies that prove them to be so. That shit head at jihadwatch can't link to douchebags for 30 minutes without earning Charles' endless ire. But Van Jones can sign a document on the anniversary of 9/11 and Charles will defend it to the death.
******************************************
I couldn't give a shit what LGF says. What I don't like is that the asshole is still wearing a 'conservative' hat...and that's just plain bullshit. The fucking guy is a tumorousdinkleberry that needs to beflushed from conservatism's collective asshole. That's not a slight againstconservatives...weall have assholes, and CJ has somehow and for some reason worked himself into the anal channel.LGF is a fucking goosestepping sewer now. I wouldn't even grace that place by going there to get banned.

Posted by: Godzilla at September 05, 2009 08:54 PM (q3vJN)

133 131,

No warren is Andy's deputy in Mayberry, a dumbass!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 08:55 PM (V2AXY)

134 I meant 131 as a question

Understandable, however it's pretty evident he hearts Chuckles.

Posted by: Blazer at September 05, 2009 08:56 PM (AoS9J)

135 Does CJ have a GodObamaComplex?

Posted by: Che Pizza at September 05, 2009 08:58 PM (4iIhs)

136 Ace that is freakin hilarious man. good stuff there.

Posted by: exceller at September 05, 2009 08:59 PM (6beBT)

137 This comment from the Chuckster (Jonz posted the link above) says it all. It's his wacked-out-of-control ego that refuses to admit Ace PWNED his ass and reduced him to a heap of moonbat shit. BTW: Ace's blog stats dwarf LGF. So if anyone needs a link, it's Chuckles.

I see Ace is still ranting away.
Sorry man - I'm not going to link to you no matter how many ugly names you call me.

Posted by: ZIP at September 05, 2009 08:59 PM (Vr8Bg)

138 LGF IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE SITE! CHARLES JOHNSON IS NOT NOT EVER HAS BEEN A CONSERVATIVE!

That little tidbit of info is for one Mr. Warren Bonesteel. This is not an intraparty or conservatives feeding on their own. This is CJ defending the indefensible and Ace calling him own it, using his (CJ's) own convoluted logic to form the noose and letting CJ kick his own chair away.

Posted by: rls at September 05, 2009 08:59 PM (gpGpT)

139 Charles Johnson you remind me of Dan Rather and Ms Mapes, in denial that you can be wrong.



The guy has to have THE most fragile ego. I was a member of his site
and if you disagree with you he bans your account. If you're no longer
a member and go to his web site and contact him about a legit point and
he is hurt by the contents, what does he do? He bans my IP address and
removes the ability for anyone to contact him. Way to go
Charles...wrap yourself up in your cocoon of Yesmen...I mean yesboys.
Just go ahead and remove anyone questioning your opinions. How could
the great Charles Johnson be wwwrrroonggg (a la The Fonz)



Didn't dig very hard for corroborating evidence did you? http://tinyurl.com/lc5d8c



QQ Charles

Posted by: guy at September 05, 2009 09:00 PM (G+GPc)

140
And I got used to saying something that's kept me in good stead ever since.


I'm wrong.


Or sometimes:

I don't know if I'm wrong but I'm starting to feel like I'm on shaky ground here-----
You do say your wrong Ace and that is why I have been such a long time Moron. I respect the hell out of you.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 05, 2009 09:01 PM (8x3SC)

141 Hey! I got banned at LGF and didn't even know it until just now!

Posted by: MCPO Airdale at September 05, 2009 09:01 PM (l51zO)

142 142,

Imagine that.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 09:02 PM (V2AXY)

143 A guy on another blog was trying to make the case that Van Jones is merely the the left wing equivalent of Dick Cheney or Don Rumsfeld. Jones being hard core left wing, the others far far to the right. i laughed so hard I almost wet my pants.

Posted by: exceller at September 05, 2009 09:03 PM (6beBT)

144 Sweet Bajeezus. If I get any more red meat today I'm gonna have a coronary.

Posted by: George Orwell at September 05, 2009 09:03 PM (AZGON)

145 145,

You should see the t-bone I just tossed on the grill.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 09:04 PM (V2AXY)

146 Jake Tapper needs to be spanked, moderately. His blog post about Van Astronaut that started all this lied flat out when he called LGF a conservative blog. I'd love to see him back that up.

Posted by: George Orwell at September 05, 2009 09:05 PM (AZGON)

147 76
It was disgusting the way they treated Zombie.

people keep saying that. how about elaborating?

Not "they." Charles.

293 zombie Thu, Sep 3, 2009 7:25:21pm

I never imagined this issue would grow so huge. I have personal
knowledge about Jones that I'm loathe to reveal in public which puts
him all over the truther scene and other bizarre conspiracy scenes. I
don't know about this petition specifically, but I have with my own
eyes seen Jones at Truther events. Problem is, I can't prove it - at
least without exposing myself. So I will remain mute on the subject.

991 Charles Thu, Sep 3, 2009 9:22:32pm

OK. And if I said I saw Van Jones at George W. Bush rallies, cheering
wildly, but I couldn't prove it because my life would be in danger,
you'd believe that too?

Anyone who is familiar with zombie knows that he or she won't divulge anything that might expose his or her identity, because that would destroy his or her ability to attend Leftist events and conduct photojournalism from the inside. For Charles to turn that against zombie is below contempt: it's an outright betrayal of a loyal friend and supporter. It proves that Charles is way more interested in preserving his self___ as always right than he is in reciprocating loyalty to a longtime friend. (But that, I guess, is no surprise, given how he's behaved toward all of the other bloggers on the Right with whom he's parted ways.)

Posted by: stuiec at September 05, 2009 09:06 PM (f0O9k)

148 Does Charles realize that by employing such flimsy, twisted, inconsistent logic to defend Van Jones he actually invites people who would defend Mapes and Rather to question his techniques and veracity?

Posted by: JDW at September 05, 2009 09:07 PM (L+u9U)

149 142
Hey! I got banned at LGF and didn't even know it until just now!

Hmm. My account still works.

Now I feel not-so-special.

Posted by: Mوtenloch at September 05, 2009 09:07 PM (+bl0R)

150 I originally got on LGF because Limbaugh mentioned it. After the past two days, I'm done. Final post:

"A recurring theme of the speakers was the brutal violence committed by or supported by the United States government on a daily basis. "The bombs the government drops in Iraq are the bombs that blew up in New York City," said Van Jones, director of the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights, who also warned against forthcoming violence by the Bush Administration. "The US cannot bomb its way out of this one. Safety at home requires justice abroad."

The link is here: http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2001/09/13/1040351.php

Note the date 09/13/01. Funny, I remember a fairly big event around that time. Obviously, this is prima facia evidence that Van Jones could be easily mislead by Truthers.

Thanks for all the hard work exposing Jones radicalism outside of the Truther issue and standing so firmly against it. Oh, wait a minute, it's been the nutcase Glenn Beck and Michelle Malkin actually DOING THAT.

And with that, I bid you adieu. Cancel my account.

Posted by: tgibson1962 at September 05, 2009 09:07 PM (PlW58)

151 You guys need to get the word out to these conservative blogs about the leftist lgf and the ghey rider, I'm doing my best!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 05, 2009 09:07 PM (V2AXY)

152 Sweet Bajeezus. If I get any more red meat today I'm gonna have a coronary.

Tell me about it. I haven't seen epic pwnage on this scale since the CT's stormed the bombsite with headshots and flashbombs.

Posted by: Blazer at September 05, 2009 09:08 PM (AoS9J)

153 Anyone remember how coy little Charles was about the origin of the name "Little Green Footballs"?

I'll bet the origin is pretty ghey, at best. Too bad no one cares.

Posted by: George Orwell at September 05, 2009 09:09 PM (AZGON)

154 Posted by: stuiec at September 05, 2009 09:06 PM (f0O9k)
it proves he's an asshole

Posted by: exceller at September 05, 2009 09:10 PM (6beBT)

155 Does Charles realize that
by employing such flimsy, twisted, inconsistent logic to defend Van
Jones he actually invites people who would defend Mapes and Rather to
question his techniques and veracity?
-------------------------------------------

Quoted for truth.

Posted by: Sal at September 05, 2009 09:11 PM (lMKBV)

156 142
Hey! I got banned at LGF and didn't even know it until just now!

Great how they don't even have the balls there to do it to your face, huh? It was probably one of Charles's deputy ban-stickmen, defending the honor of his Dear Leader against the poison of disagreement.

Time to update the old Soviet joke: There is same freedom of speech at AoSHQ LGF. On AoSHQ one is free to call Ace a jerk, and on LGF one is also free... to call Ace a jerk.

Posted by: stuiec at September 05, 2009 09:11 PM (f0O9k)

157 Anyone remember how coy little Charles was about the origin of the name "Little Green Footballs"?


I'll bet the origin is pretty ghey, at best. Too bad no one cares.

Posted by: George Orwell at September 05, 2009 09:09 PM (AZGON)
Given his mental age, it's probably what he and his bestest friend in 7th grade called boogers...that they would flick at the girls.

Posted by: Tami at September 05, 2009 09:11 PM (VuLos)

158 154 I'll bet the origin is pretty ghey, at best.

No, it's snot.

Posted by: stuiec at September 05, 2009 09:12 PM (f0O9k)

159
You know how I know CJ is gay ?
He wears Hawaiian shirts and rides a ten-speed.

Posted by: Blazer at September 05, 2009 09:16 PM (AoS9J)

160 Once upon a Football Greenish, Charles Johnson did get squeamish
When a massive Truther penis made Obama's ass its whore.
Ace of Spades soon raised a stink, so Charlie dug up Jason Rink,
A dinky little Cincinnati stinker never seen before. 
"Hypocrisy!" the pontailed jazz musician whined and wailed,
His blog so mad it somehow failed to make note of Van Jones the Czar.
Quoth the Johnson, "Just ignore!"        

Posted by: Edgar Allen Ponytail at September 05, 2009 09:17 PM (acQq7)

161 You know how I know CJ is gay?

Three guesses and the first two don't count.

Posted by: Charles Johnson's Bicycle Seat at September 05, 2009 09:17 PM (AZGON)

162 AoS?

Worst blog EVAH!!1!!!!

Posted by: Charles Johnson at September 05, 2009 09:18 PM (4iIhs)

163 #161

LOL!

Posted by: George Orwell at September 05, 2009 09:18 PM (AZGON)

164 @ 105.
WOW

@ 112
thanks for the update and WOW

@ 119
holy cow WOW

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 05, 2009 09:22 PM (8x3SC)

165 Re #112 "It was disgusting the way they treated Zombie."

Thanks for elaborating, jonz.
I've been reading LGF since 9/11 but started tuning him out when he went on his anti-creationist jihad so I wasn't aware of this.
I've been on the fence until now.
Screw Charles and his Lizard ass kissers.

Ace, if you really want tweak this asshole and improve the quality of your site, start linking Zombie.

Posted by: RayJ at September 05, 2009 09:23 PM (bpbzk)

166
You know how I know CJ is gay?
He got totally owned by the Flood at the end of Halo.

Posted by: Blazer at September 05, 2009 09:24 PM (AoS9J)

167 THE ENTIRE GREEN PARTY DECLARED ITS TRUTHERISM ON SEPT. 10, 2002 in this document.

(2) ESTABLISH AN INDEPENDENT SEPTEMBER 11 TRUTH
COMMISSION.

"Greens are disappointed that Congress has failed to
establish a public and independent truth commission to investigate the
origins and consequences of the September 11 attacks," said Ben
Manski, Wisconsin Green and member of the party's national steering
committee.
"Greens, along with other members of the 9/11
Emergency National Network and many other Americans, have proposed the
immediate establishment of such a commission, charged with calm,
determined, and open investigation of the facts related to the historic
events which form the basis of U.S. foreign and domestic policy
today."

Posted by: stuiec at September 05, 2009 09:28 PM (f0O9k)

168 Let's not be too hard on Chuckles, he probably has Directv, and Directv just dropped Versus, so now Chuckie can't watch bike racing anymore.

That or he just found out that being a jazz bassist guitarist is kinda ghey.

Posted by: mrcaniac at September 05, 2009 09:28 PM (6i55m)

169 I think CJ's cheese slid off his cracker. Oh yeah. Truthers lie but maybe not this one......he is cool with me? Geez

Posted by: Double with cheese at September 05, 2009 09:29 PM (ngX4W)

170 161Edgar Allen Ponytail

Oh, great. Are YOU gonna pay for my hernia repair now?

Posted by: stuiec at September 05, 2009 09:29 PM (f0O9k)

171 I just realized something while following a couple of interesting links about events in the first year after 9/11. A whole lot of the material that was on the Web at that time is now gone or at least inaccessible.

Which makes Charles Johnson's assertion that the evidence doesn't exist because he hasn't been able to Google it seem pretty frakkin' lazy and ignorant.

Posted by: stuiec at September 05, 2009 09:31 PM (f0O9k)

172 Okay - REAL SIMPLE. Someone with an unbanned account simply go to LGF and ask:
"Charles, regardless of whether Van Jones is or is not a truther, do you think he should be or remain President Obama's "green czar"? Yes or no?

Posted by: JDW at September 05, 2009 09:32 PM (L+u9U)

173 168

Was Van Jones a member of the Green party in 2002?

Posted by: Sal at September 05, 2009 09:33 PM (lMKBV)

174 I believe that the 9/11 Commission Report contains some serious omissions and inaccuracies.
Hell, I believe that. Any 911 commission with Jamie Gorelick sitting on it is highly compromised.

Posted by: flenser at September 05, 2009 09:33 PM (zdc+/)

175 Ace, ILOVE YOUMAN!
I quit going to LGF back when the denunciations of imagined Nazis and White Supremacists first started happening. At first I figured that Chas knew what he was talking about and for whatever reason, just could go into details right then and there. Then he started picking fights with Pam Geller and others and I started to publicly question him on LGF as on what was going on. Way back then, you could get away with that.
After a while I quit going, and a few months later I checked back in and Charles is having a hissy fit and saying that Pam Geller was publiclyinciting her readers to do violence to him. I looked it up and she said CJ should be publicly flogged for some reason. I said he was acting like a sissy. I was banned.
Personally I don't care about LGF and now I only go there when he is called out by another blogger for acting like a douche.
Charles Johnson justneeds to be called out on all of his bullsh*t as he says it and be exposed for the fraud he is; that won't happen by being nice. He's not an honorable good faith opponent, and shouldn't ever be treated as such.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at September 05, 2009 09:34 PM (H7Rlw)

176
You know how I know CJ is gay ?
He wacks off to Scolar Visari.

Posted by: Blazer at September 05, 2009 09:36 PM (AoS9J)

177 And Rink is also ... you guessed it ... a Truther.
No, no, no. True, I put my name to that stuff, but I never read it. Honest injun!

Posted by: Rink at September 05, 2009 09:39 PM (zdc+/)

178 For Charles to turn that against zombie is below contempt: it's an
outright betrayal of a loyal friend and supporter. It proves that
Charles is way more interested in preserving his self___ as always
right than he is in reciprocating loyalty to a longtime friend.

That is unforgivable. I wonder how many times in the past has CJ linked to Zombie when it benefited him.

What a lowlife.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 05, 2009 09:39 PM (8x3SC)

179 I quit going to LGF when it became clear that Ron Paul as so right about all things economic, yet Charles refused to acknowledge that he was right even though the evidence was clear. He just had to keep lumping him in with the truther crowd and calling him a nutcase daily, and of course there's all his anti Christian and anti creation nonsense as well.
It got to be too much to swallow. Johnson is simply in denial of a few too many things for me. He has zero credibility.

Posted by: JCD at September 05, 2009 09:42 PM (d3mi7)

180 Looks like ace is really giving Cahrsel Jhnonso a Bakersfield pancake, IYKWIMAITYD.

Don't forget the "Dreaded Rear Admiral".

Posted by: Che Pizza at September 05, 2009 09:43 PM (4iIhs)

181 Charles hanging Zombie out to dry was just wrong. Then again, it was no different than him going through his PayPal tip jar and outing individual members that had fallen out of favor.
Somebody like Charles has no limits as to what he will do to protect his own ego.
Like I said earlier, he's not a good faith opponent.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at September 05, 2009 09:45 PM (H7Rlw)

182 Is "United for Peace Justice" a Truther organization?

It includes as members Northern California 9-11 Truth Alliance of Palo Alto, CA (Carol Brouillet), Santa Cruz 9-11 Truth Network (Gabriel Day), and a host of other organizations that are Truther or Truther-friendly (as in, promoting links to Truther organizations).

Oh, and Van Jones's Ella Baker Center for Human Rights.

Posted by: stuiec at September 05, 2009 09:45 PM (f0O9k)

183 Well, you ladies kinda proved my point for me, there.
...
It's called, "social immaturity."

You mean like "name calling"?

Posted by: Che Pizza at September 05, 2009 09:52 PM (4iIhs)

184
Ace is starting to glow like the metal on the edge of a knife. Makes me wonder however, if when he was barely seventeen if he was barely dressed ?

Posted by: Blazer at September 05, 2009 09:55 PM (bAc7l)

185 Ace:

You're missing the tree for the forest. All this is not about the finer points of any argument or debate. Charles Johnson makes a point to gain-say any meme the rightblogs pick up. He's the first to call them hysterical, hypocritical and deranged, no matter what the beef is. Van Jones, the school speech, if you have the stomach, scroll back on the last few weeks of his posts. He spends all his time talking about what morons, hysterical fools and vicious assholes conservatives are.


The only reason he is taking a side at all in this is he's taking the side that all the rightblogs were wrong in the _exact manner_ in which they went after Jones. He agrees the guy has to go. He agrees there are egregious things the guy has said. But on the one thing that broke the story, which started the memorandum, he must quibble because he must be above all the lowly rightblogs, of which he thought he was once king, but whom now he repudiates and disdains and heaps derision on daily.


It's futile to argue the finer points: his only point is that, whatever you, Powerline, Atlas, any prominent rightblog does is wrong and stupid and hysterical and hypocritical. He doesn't care about the underlying story. The only story he will stick to is that you were all wrong and stupid. The actual facts about Van Jones don't matter a whit.


Why does he do this? Because he became primarily known, after all his erudition and intellectual brilliance, as a Muslim Basher, first and foremost. That may or may not be fair, but I personally believe Charles took it to heart and consciously made a decision to muddy the waters by lashing out at every prominent rightblog, putting them down, insulting them, going after easy "high-intellectual" crap like lording his scientific mind on creationalism and glowball warmage and and anything else he can use to act superior to "stupid" religious people.


Once you get to the heart of what he's doing, it's more understandable. He basically runs LGF as a troll-site to bait conservatives. He loves nothing more than the fact you called him out. It completes him.

Posted by: ms. docweasel at September 05, 2009 10:02 PM (kgwdA)

186 consider this......LGF is a psychology experiment to see how far a deranged leader of a cult can drive his inner circle into absurdity before they turn on him. Think "Stockholm Syndrome" blog. ..........er......maybe not.........

Posted by: IslandLibertarian at September 05, 2009 10:06 PM (BWGwz)

187 Then again, it was no different than him going through his PayPal tip
jar and outing individual members that had fallen out of favor.

What?? What did he do?

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 05, 2009 10:11 PM (8x3SC)

188 Here's one senator that has questions about Van Jones:
http://tinyurl.com/mp948n

Posted by: Godzilla at September 05, 2009 10:16 PM (q3vJN)

189 Whether or not your account is cancelled you have been added to the Banned of Brothers list.
Welcome Mr. tgibson1962. Well played, Sir,

Posted by: USCtizen at September 05, 2009 10:26 PM (x0kcN)

190 188 Then again, it was no different than him going through his PayPal tip jar and outing individual members that had fallen out of favor.

What?? What did he do?

Pretty much exactly that. He was angry at one of the posters at lgf2 and dug out his personal info from Paypal and posted it.

Posted by: Mوtenloch at September 05, 2009 10:26 PM (+bl0R)

191 MCPO Airdale - is likewise welcomed.

Posted by: USCtizen at September 05, 2009 10:31 PM (x0kcN)

192 Mوtenloch

Wow. That's crazy.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 05, 2009 10:32 PM (8x3SC)

193 CJ may be under the impression that he knows how to argue this case. He had the relatively easy task of disproving the Rather and Mapes claim that the National Guard documents were real. All he had to do was poke a hole in their argument (ie, the font). The burden of proof was on Rather and Mapes. Here CJ is trying to use the same approach to prove a negative, namely that Van Jones did not know what he was signing. But unlike disproving a theory, Van Jones’ claim has to be backed up with evidence. There is no direct evidence to support his claim, so CJ needs to interview all the petition signees, determine their credibility and whether they may have signed unknowingly. Even then all he has is indirect evidence that Van Jones may have signed unknowingly. If two signees were duped but the other N-2 were not, then Van Jones’ claim cannot be substantiated. If CJ is wondering why his approach doesn’t work this time, this is the reason.

Posted by: Steve at September 05, 2009 10:36 PM (9fKYT)

194 Jim in San Diego:you have also been added to the Banned of Brothers list.
Welcome sir. Well done.

Posted by: USCtizen at September 05, 2009 10:39 PM (x0kcN)

195 This is like arguing with a woman of the more irrational sort.

As opposed to what other sort?

Posted by: 29Victor at September 05, 2009 10:47 PM (AfPnb)

196 dibutler at #38 said "weapons grade stupid".
I always say Weapons Grade Crazy and refer to him as CFnJ.
Those are his real initials so it fits.

Posted by: Kirly at September 05, 2009 10:48 PM (Uojav)

197 hi guys i know this is off topic but i was reading the posts at lgf and charlie sayd hr could not find anything that van jones had said that proved he was a troofer took me five minutes and i found this http://powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/09/024446.php this the quote "A recurring theme of the speakers was the brutal violence committed by or supported
by the United States government on a daily basis. "The bombs the government
drops in Iraq are the bombs that blew up in New York City," said Van Jones,
director of the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights, who also warned against forthcoming
violence by the Bush Administration. "The US cannot bomb its way out of this
one. Safety at home requires justice abroad." can't post at lgf i'm not regitered maybe you could.

Posted by: jp at September 05, 2009 10:51 PM (h50gK)

198 sorry the link was ay powerline this is the actual page http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2001/09/13/1040351.php

Posted by: jp at September 05, 2009 10:55 PM (h50gK)

199 par for the course for asshole cj of lgf.

ever since he went after the euro-anti-islamification crowd and geller and gates of vienna.

he has been on this rampage in order to get creds back with music pros and juice up his music biz.

Posted by: reliapundit at September 05, 2009 10:55 PM (NY6+Q)

200 Charles you have pissed me off tonight with the teabagger who you claim is a Paulian.

WTF dude, when does it stop? Paranoia will destroy ya and I think it's time for me get the hell out there.
Cancel my account Chuckie.

Posted by: sattv4u2 at September 05, 2009 11:14 PM (7sg26)

201 Chuck's removed the Contact option at his Ajax powered paranoia portal. Guess the bitch got tired of "hate mail". Prepare to be exposed to the full wrath of extreme rightwing creationalist fascists, whiny bitch.

Posted by: Kilgore Al Sharmuta at September 05, 2009 11:25 PM (0DzYN)

202 Fuck all ya'all right wing extremists. Truthers lie, and I'm going back to posting bicycle and sunset pictures.

Posted by: Charles Johnson at September 05, 2009 11:29 PM (hyW6d)

203 He was angry at one of the posters at lgf2 and dug out his personal info from Paypal and posted it.

Wow.

Posted by: Che Pizza at September 05, 2009 11:33 PM (4iIhs)

204 Charles' treatment of Zombie is beneath contemptible. Looks like iceweasel is the new favored poster, for the moment, at least until she becomes "Not of the body."

And, good Lord! Now Charles is shilling for jeans, from amazon.com. Hey, buy some now, and they'll throw in a kindle, 50% off, and a copy of the collected wit and wisdom of LGF! Also, one of Charles' charming photos of some bicycle spokes! Remember to boycott Glen Beck!

Jaysus.

Posted by: Rhinestone Suderman at September 05, 2009 11:37 PM (NihhD)

205 @ 204


CJ really did that?

Posted by: Sal at September 05, 2009 11:38 PM (lMKBV)

206 Ahhh.... poor kids.

Here! Have some of this: 'Extreme Echo Chamber: Modern Politics and Economy.' @ alfin2100.blogspot.com/

That'll make ya feel better.

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at September 05, 2009 11:40 PM (RYCXb)

207 206:

Yup. It actually was one of the female admins at LGF2.

Posted by: eddiebear at September 05, 2009 11:44 PM (4zdCB)

208

Charles Johnson is a Lying Sack of Shit Part Two



On the front page of LGF, directly below the post on the
Cinncinati Tea Party is another post entitled: Glenn Beck, Ron Paul and
the Truthers



Charles writes a post falsely asserting that the San Antonio Tea Party from which Glenn Beck did a live broadcast was organized by a truther group called We
Are Change San Antonio 911 Truth.


Charles writes:



"LGF reader Killgore Trout has discovered a truly shocking piece of evidence, at the meetup website for the April 15th Tea Party in San Antonio, Texas: Glenn Beck @ San Antonio Tea Party @ the ALAMO - We Are Change San Antonio 911 Truth (San Antonio, TX).



...Glenn Beck broadcast his show live from the event."



Charles provides a link which he refers to as "the meetup website
for the April 15 tea party". It's obvious that the website he links to has nothing to do with the organizers of the Tea Party that Beck broadcast from. If you click on the link, it
doesn't take you to the website of the group that organized the tea
party. It takes you to the website for a Truther group called We Are
Change San Antonio that is announcing that Beck will be appearing at
the San Antonio tea party. Apparently, the We Are Change people are
organizing a meetup of their own members at the Tea Party and this is
the page that Johnson refers to as the meetup website for the San
Antonio Tea Party.



The official website for the San Antonio Tea Party which Beck broadcast from is here:



http://tinyurl.com/lxbt64



and an account with pictures of the same Tea Party is here on Townhall.com:


http://tinyurl.com/mtopcn

If you go to the San Antonio Tea Party website you will find no mention of any affiliation with the "We Are Change" Truthers. If you read the first-hand account on Townhall, and look at the pictures, you will see that there is absolutely no connection between the San Antonio Tea Party organization and the We Are Change people. And if you look over the webpage for We Are Change that Charles refers to as the main site for the Tea Party, you can read first-hand accounts by the We Are Change truthers who attended the rally and it becomes obvious that the Truthers attended the rally as anonymous guests just like all the other attendees and had no affiliaton with and played no part in the organization of the San Antonio Tea Party.

The San Antonio Tea Party that Beck broadcast from had an attendance of about 16,000 and also featured Ted Nugent. Apparently the organization that set up the Tea Party in San Antonio was part of the Nationwide Tea Party Coalition which also organized Tea Parties on the same day in Sacramento-at which Neil Cavuto broadcast his show, Atlanta-at which Sean Hannity broadcast his show and New York which featured Newt Gingrich. Pajamas TV coordinated with the organzation which set up the San Antonio event for their live coverage, as can be seen here:

http://tinyurl.com/dg8l6h

Is Charles Johnson indirectly defaming an operation of which he is a founding member?



At best this is simply sloppy "reporting" by Charles. However, I believe Charels knowingly engaged in deceit by giving his readers the impression that
the Truther site he linked to was the official meetup page for the San
Antonio Tea Party when he knew full well that it wasn't.

In reality, Beck broadcast from a Tea Party that was set up by a perfectly respectable group which planned Tea Parties around the nation that were attended by hundreds of thousands of supporters and featured appearances by major broadcasters and celebrities. A few Truthers showed up with cameras at the same one attended by Beck, and that's all Charles needed to go to work with his sinister sleight of hand in order to defame not only Beck, but the Tea Party Movement as a whole.

Anyone who followed researched his attacks on Robert Spencer, Pam Geller, Gates of Vienna and others knows that this is the method of Charles Johnson.

Charles Johnson is a liar and a slanderer. He does not work in good faith and he should be exposed and completely marginalized before he goes on to do great damage to a just cause.

Posted by: sartana at September 05, 2009 11:45 PM (xYACx)

209 Ahhh.... poor kids. Here! Have some of this: 'Extreme Echo Chamber: Modern Politics and Economy.' @ alfin2100.blogspot.com/ That'll make ya feel better.
Posted by: Warren Bonesteel

Seriously, do you have point to this caterwalling or are you just trolling now?

Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at September 05, 2009 11:49 PM (nquxR)

210 So, did Van Jones's signature also end up on the petition letter sent to 89 members of Congress?

Dear Representative {name}:



Thank you for your letter, co-signed with 89 other Congress

people, calling on George Bush to answer questions about the

secret U.S.-UK agreement to attack Iraq.



By way of background, we are a group of ex-military officials,

scientists, lawyers, historians, publishers, and researchers.

We are not wild-eyed conspiracy theorists, but sober, level-headed analysts....



We possess substantial, credible, and specific information which

I can provide to you about this subject.



A very brief sampling of our

evidence includes the following:


["evidence" consisting of much craziness]

... We can provide you with more detailed information in the form of

a 2- page, 10-page, or more detailed report of our evidence.



Please feel free to contact us at any time.



Supporter of 9/11 Truth Action

Supporter of 9/11 Truth Movement



Posted by: stuiec at September 05, 2009 11:53 PM (f0O9k)

211 As for more insight into Van Jones's Ella Baker Center for Human Rights:

"From
Attica to AbuGhraib"

About IHRI


The International Human Rights Initiative (IHRI) is a broad based human rights coalition that is building an
international campaign to hold the United States government and its surrogates accountable for their
human rights abuses, violations, and crimes including torture, secret detention, and assassination.

The IHRI
was initiated in early 2004 by a wide range of human rights activists, academics and lawyers from the Bay
Area, Boston and New York City. The coalition seeks to develop links with grassroots activists, academics,
research groups, legal groups, unions, and human rights organizations throughout the United States and
the world to pursue three fundamental goals:

To initiate an international campaign to stop the US governments systematic use of torture, illegal
detentions, grand juries, immigration raids and registrations, and other human rights violations that
support its subjugation of people of color within and outside the U.S. and repress opposition to the same. To support and defend the civil and human rights of Political Detainees, Political Prisoners, and
Prisoners of War – those detained both before and after 9/11/01.
To indict the United States government for its systematic human rights
abuses domestically and internationally. To develop documentation that
will enable us to question the US government before the international
community to hold it accountable for its human rights record and
policies.

The IHRI is presently composed of the following organizations:
American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee

Black Radical Congress

Critical Resistance

Ella Baker Center for Human Rights

GABRIELA Network

Global Exchange

Haiti Action Committee

Jericho Movement

Malcolm X Grassroots Movement

Prison Activist Resource Center

SUSTAIN Bay Area

To
launch the campaign work of the coalition, the IHRI is hosting a
working human rights conference entitled: "Attica to Abu Ghraib: Human
Rights, Torture, and Resistance".

This working conference is being held on
Friday, April 22nd Saturday, April 23rd, 2005 in Berkeley, CA

To join the IHRI organizations and individuals must agree to:

a) Support the fundamental goals and principles of the coalition.

b) Support the activities and campaigns of the coalition.

Posted by: stuiec at September 05, 2009 11:55 PM (f0O9k)

212 Not to ignore Ace's colossal, nay epic, pwnage of CJ but this bit with Van Jones was entirely predicable after the whole Obama bowing bit. The guy is wandering the Twilight Zone and thinks he's found reality.

The most hilarious thing coming out of this has to be this exchange:

Charles Sat, Sep 5, 2009 5:06:57pm A guy wearing a confederate flag t-shirt.sattv4u2 Sat, Sep 5, 2009 5:08:28pm It;s Lynyrd Skynyrd one, actuallyCharles Sat, Sep 5, 2009 5:09:48pm
I seriously doubt the point of the shirt is to express his support for Lynyrd Skynyrd.
20 seconds later he posts a response? Well at least he seriously doubts it. I suspect he's seriously idiotic. Charles, they post the no diving signs at the shallow end of the pool for a reason. Repeatedly jumping is not going to change how stupid you were to have jumped the first time.


Posted by: Rocks at September 06, 2009 12:08 AM (3RHzM)

213 Jason who?!

Oh wait, is he the new Jeff Gannon?

My personal theory about the Lizard King, after hearing what he's been up to for the past six years or so, is that drugs have scrambled his brains like eggs in a Denny's Grand Slam.

I mean, put it together... ponytail, musician, prefers biking to driving (potheads told me car interiors freaked them out when they drove high), prone to sudden inexplicable obsessions/compulsions (Odin crosses/Creationism), narcissism, persecution complex... I bet the guy's a pharmaceutical nightmare.

Posted by: angryoldfatman at September 06, 2009 12:09 AM (ZZg4j)

214 Someone just told Charles that, yes, being a national bestselling author and a TV host with 3.5 million viewers beats being a jazz bassist.

Good Day, Sir.

Posted by: Techie at September 06, 2009 12:12 AM (cxW4X)

215 rofl

Posted by: Sal at September 06, 2009 12:14 AM (lMKBV)

216
204
He was angry at one of the posters at lgf2 and dug out his personal info from Paypal and posted it.





Wow.




Posted by: Che Pizza at September 05, 2009 11:33 PM (4iIhs)
Suits her well for donating to the douche for the first place. It was clear he hates everything decent from day one, and was just playing on the post 9.11 patriotic mood to grab his bolding, aging, failed jazz musician ass some $$$. Whiny bitch Johnson never uttered a coherent sentense or formulated a picture-less and link-less opinion in 10 fucking years of blogging. Seriously. Donating to him just cause he didn't like Muslims? Hell, even Muslims don't like Muslims - and you won't see me donating cash to Muslims.

Posted by: Kilgore Al Sharmuta at September 06, 2009 12:21 AM (0DzYN)

217 There's no deep psychological reason for CJ's defense of Van Jones, Charles' hand was forced by his very own actions.

One of the main methods he used to delegitimize the Tea Party movement was their supposed close alignment with 911 Truthers. According to him, if you have anything to do with a truther, you are a nutjob too.

He was so desperate to undermine support for the Tea Parties, he used a wildly expansive version of guilt by association (his favorite tool)... never realizing it could come back to bite his supposedly rational and judicious president. He can afford to have his lizards see Van Jones as a communist, because then Obama is merely mistaken. He made an error. But if Van Jones is a known truther, then Obama has to be a nutjob by Charles' own standards.

Charles has been put in a box by his own lack of foresight. He never saw this possibility coming.

Live by guilt by association, die by guilt by association.

Posted by: stevieray at September 06, 2009 12:22 AM (2rqGD)

218 I seriously doubt the point of the shirt is to express his support for Lynyrd Skynyrd.
He seriously doubts that the point of wearing a Lynyrd Skynyrd tee shirt is to express support for Lynyrd Skynyrd.
O kay!

Posted by: flenser at September 06, 2009 12:23 AM (xPSvz)

219 I'm a Charles Johnson-style moderate (anti-creationist, don't hate Obama etc.). "Boo! Liberal RINO!" Guilty as charged.

But CJ is clearly in the wrong here. What the hell? Isn't it obvious what Van Jones is all about? Of course he was a Truther. In 2002! And a Mumia fan etc. Or at least a Truther fellow traveler, if we want to parse this to ridiculous extremes. But now every left wing blog is citing Little Green Footballs as the final authority on this matter. Thanks, CJ.

And what happened to LGF's posts on radical Islamism? Look, I understand being turned off by Geert Wilders and his anti-Muslim (NOT the same thing as anti-jihadist) fans. I am too. But CJ hardly seems interested in reporting on jihadism anymore.

Posted by: Percy Gorgon at September 06, 2009 12:29 AM (h7nfg)

220 I'm a Charles Johnson-style moderate (anti-creationist, don't hate Obama etc.). "Boo! Liberal RINO!" Guilty as charged.
Just call yourself a liberal and be done with it. LGF is about as moderate as Daily Kos.

Posted by: flenser at September 06, 2009 12:31 AM (xPSvz)

221 I'm a Charles Johnson-style moderate (anti-creationist...

Posted by: Percy Gorgon at September 06, 2009 12:29 AM (h7nfg)

Percy are you really familiar with CJ's take? Are you really "anti-creationist" or simply think it's dumb and shouldn't be taught in schools as science? Do you check to see what they are doing each day at the Creationist Museum ( as if anybody gives a damn or even knows about it)? In other words is it mostly a non-issue for you or THE issue as with CJ?Somehow I tihnk it's mostly the former. Regardless of what side of the spectrum CJ is on with any issue it's very rarely moderate or reasonable for that matter. At least not in awhile.

Posted by: Rocks at September 06, 2009 12:39 AM (3RHzM)

222 Do these mom jeans make my fat ass look like a fat ass? I bought them on amazon, along with DVD of "We are the World."

Posted by: Charles "Nancy" Johnson at September 06, 2009 12:47 AM (Be0EK)

223 202: "Chuck's removed the Contact option at his Ajax powered paranoia portal. "

... and he continues to shrink his world tighter and closer. Kind of the blogger equivalent to the agoraphobic who stays closeted in their home with shades drawn, afraid to let the light in.

Enjoy your little cocoon there Chuckles.

/or the equivalent to putting one's fingers in one's ears and yelling "la la la I can't hear you" when confronted with something with which they disagree. One of the two.

Posted by: AZfederalist at September 06, 2009 12:49 AM (TNhjg)

224 195
Jim in San Diego:you have also been added to the Banned of Brothers list.
Welcome sir. Well done.
Posted by: USCtizen at September 05, 2009 10:39 PM (x0kcN)
Thank you! I'll be here all week!
I also notice my old LGF nick there too.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at September 06, 2009 12:50 AM (H7Rlw)

225 Rocks, I just don't want creationism/ID taught in the public schools. I don't obsess about it.

It's interesting what happened to many old school warbloggers. Sullivan (remember the Four Horsemen?), Ken Layne (of Wonkette - used to be a huge hawk), Balloon Juice, Belgravia Dispatch, Politburo Diktat, Obsidian Wings. Once they became disenchanted about some aspect of the GOP, Bush, Iraq War or whatever they tended to keep on tipping until they reached the other side.

LGF was really in its own league, spawned many other blogs, and did some important reporting. In the early days and years after 9/11 it was a critical voice. That means something.

Posted by: Percy Gorgon at September 06, 2009 12:57 AM (h7nfg)

226 226 "LGF was really in its own league, spawned many other blogs, and did
some important reporting. In the early days and years after 9/11 it
was a critical voice. That means meant something. "

Fixed it for you. Yeah, CJ did some reasonable things back then. He's now fully turned and I suspect would be arguing on the genuine nature of such a memo were it to appear today.

Posted by: AZfederalist at September 06, 2009 01:08 AM (TNhjg)

227 @ # 211 Great Satan's Ghost.

Well, that is my point. A lot of you folks don't see the point. Neuroplasticity. Brain Entrainment. Availability Heuristics, Choice Blindness. Milgram, Asch(sp)... Authoritarian Thinking, Groupthink, Organizational culture, Availability cascades... Rational ignorance...

Quite a long list, really. Parts of all of them apply, here.

Throw in logical fallacies and a huge dash of sorry sophistry...

Nope. Not trolling at all. Just learning more about The Cassandra Effect...

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at September 06, 2009 01:22 AM (RYCXb)

228 It's like many of us have been saying for months now. LGF has lost whatever credibility it earned back in 2004 with the Rather Gate memo fiasco. The same conservative bashing that I regularly see on KOS and other lefty blogs have become a regular at LGF. CJ's rabbid hatred of Glenn Beck and the Religious Right has turned him into what he used to rail against regularly. He is using anti-Glenn Beck sources as sources for his anti-Glenn Beck rants. It is sad.

Posted by: ZeroDmage at September 06, 2009 01:34 AM (c6qSB)

229 Van Jones resigned. HA has it.

Posted by: Godzilla at September 06, 2009 01:35 AM (q3vJN)

230 Charles completely ignored this comment from Zombie. I honestly have no idea why Zombie posts there. http://littlegreenfootballs.com/showc/293/7652914

Posted by: ZeroDmage at September 06, 2009 01:51 AM (c6qSB)

231 Me too guys ,i've been banned from LGF.

@231
hell yeah, he ignored not only the comments from Zombie but from some other users too. He avoid to face the very simple facts!

@Ace
thank you for your great work !! May God Bless You !

Posted by: Pete-billy at September 06, 2009 05:25 AM (OHx3i)

232
Maybe Charles can find another queer XTC video, or some guitar noodling douche,to make us forget all this other shit.

Posted by: The Drizzle at September 06, 2009 05:52 AM (fWnCD)

233 Good morning Ace, what a beautiful epitaph for the POS Charles Johnson, may he and his trolls rest in peace! I wish I was a member @LGF just so I could write a FU and resign.

Posted by: WestWright at September 06, 2009 06:05 AM (3PB4v)

234 "F'n'"

It's spelled "fuckin'," pussy.

Posted by: railwriter at September 06, 2009 08:11 AM (XcsD4)

235 This is my opinion. I think Charles is concerned his LGF site will be placed on a Net Nanny Internet filtering BAN list. So in order to get in the good graces of Liberals he goes after Robert Spencer and Pam Gellar and other Conservative sites and says...hey these are the hate sites...not me. I'm a moderate....don't ban me...I need to sell Jeans for Amazon.com.


Posted by: guy at September 06, 2009 08:20 AM (G+GPc)

236 "It would be intellectually gratifying to understand why a formerly
valuable member of the team seems to have lost his place in the nexus
of reality. However, with or without that information, damage control
and detachment from the fiasco are our duties."

It's because he was a left-wingnut who got temporarily b-slapped by 9/11, then slowly reverted to type. Now that Obama the Marxist is president, he thinks that he can go "sleepy boo" again and finally devolve back into the infantile state of vomit-brained moral and intellectual self-castration that is the hallmark of the left.

Posted by: Ernest Brown at September 06, 2009 09:59 AM (9tuW5)

237 Ace: Your pwnage of this issue is complete. Charles has been rhetorically stripped, tarred and feathered... shown to be a faux moderate. The bat-shit-crazy radical Van Jones has been forced to resign and ONLY blogs are to credit for that. Hats off to you and to all at AoSHQ.

Posted by: theCork at September 06, 2009 01:57 PM (za8iP)

238 I don't know.. But I'm sensing some frustration over theweirdness going on at LGF these past few months. I do have finely honed skills and intuition though, so don't thank me for tipping you off when this blows up and gets big. OK, so my watch is running a little slow. Kill me.
btw, I'm a huge fan of CGI guys in jump boots teabagging dead red dudes. So I'm probably going to have a chubby for the rest of the day!

Posted by: saus at September 06, 2009 02:10 PM (XRA+k)

239 Last night I made a comment at LGF about how I miss the old blog it used to be. The fact that Charles has a post for Amazon, and the new infolinks (in-text advertising), is absolutely ridiculous. Who likes it when you scroll over a word and an advertisement pops up? Not me. Well, I tried to log into my LGF account this morning, and guess what, it has been blocked. I guess Charles doesn't like views that differ from his on LGF. LGF used to be a great anti-Jihad, pro-Israel, pro-America blog....What the hell happened to Charles....I should have known when I first started reading over at LGF, he is a Mac Fanboy, and my views dont mesh with people who use Macs. I'm a PC. Sorry for the rant.

Posted by: dmdusn at September 06, 2009 02:19 PM (evM/d)

240 Charles Johnson is a first class dickhead real life, so why wouldn't his online persona even be worse?

He was 100% wrong on Van Jones and stepped up to defend him. In the words of the Holy Grail Knight: He chose poorly.

His only acknowledgment of his screw up is a threat on his website to ban anyone who gloats about him being wrong.

If you know Charles Johnson's address, I suggest you send him some tampons and some Midol. He needs both.

Posted by: Herbert at September 06, 2009 03:11 PM (zBaMP)

241 He's obviously having a hard time financially with the site. The Amazon links as articles and the Paypal donations links on the page. They used to not be there.

Posted by: ZeroDmage at September 06, 2009 03:16 PM (sxJRy)

242 The bat-shit-crazy radical Van Jones has been forced to resign and ONLY blogs are to credit for that.

Sorry, but Glenn Beck owns a huge chunk of Jones' pelt, a fact that drives CJ even more batshit nuts.

Posted by: God at September 06, 2009 03:20 PM (yTndK)

243 There is another Stalinistic purge going on at LGF over the Van Jones issue.

Chuckie "the Assclown" Johnson is the Saddam Hussein of the blogosphere. He always is having to look over his shoulder and dispatch anyone who doesn't give 100% admiration and respect to each and every one of his blatherings.

He looked like a real ass on this issue and it is going to be hard to cover up.

"We are winning against our foes." Baghdad Bob Kilgore Trout

Posted by: Herbert at September 06, 2009 03:21 PM (zBaMP)

244 I used to be a reader of LGF up until a few years ago, went back last year just to see what they were talking about, and walked into a shitstorm of anti-creationism. It was epic. I've never replied to anything there, but now I want to just to get banninated.

Anyway, what's the deal with Pajamas Media? There are two tools that I know of listed on their 'about us' page, but Johnson takes the cake. Am contemplating not going to any site affiliated with PJ simply because they won't oust Johnson, but damn there's people there that I actually like.

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because they won't oust Johnson, but damn there's people there that I
actually like."

I encourage you to patronize PJ TV because they have a great thing going. I think Charles was a founder with Roger Simon. Just because Charlie went Colonel Kurtz on us doesn't mean we should throw PJTV under the bus. That is EXACTLY what Johnson does and why it drove me bat-shit crazy that he would "sacrifice" a messenger without hearing the message (Beck).

By the way, I understand Charlie's nickname for his "delete post" command is "Winston Smith". Down the memory hole.

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"This is like arguing with a woman of the more irrational sort."
That was out of line, and you know it. And now someone's going to come along and say, "well, as with all stereotypes, there's a kernel of truth in it."

Which of course means we're free to talk about uneducated black people as the norm--and manipulative, grasping Jews. Why not? Some of "those people" are like that, after all . . . so it must be okay.
Sometimes, coming around here is like dealing with a male writer of the more blindly arrogant type . . . Sheesh.

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249 Which of course means we're free to talk about uneducated black people as the norm--and manipulative, grasping Jews. Why not? Some of "those people" are like that, after all . . . so it must be okay.
Sometimes, coming around here is like dealing with a male writer of the more blindly arrogant type . . . Sheesh.
What the hell are you talking about?

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"People are jumping to the conclusion that Van Jones is a hard core truther based on his apparent signature to an uncorroborated online petition which other people have apparently been added to under sketchy circumstances."

It's not a complicated point, and not a defense of Van Jones. It's a critique of the strength of the evidence for the "Van Jones IS A 9/11 TRUTHER!@!" accusation. Surely if he *is* a 9/11 truther, there must be more evidence than his name on this petition, given his proclivity for running his mouth in public, right?

Ace's douchey over-reaction has the stench of triumphalist overconfidence, and by ignoring the simple point he does himself and his readers a disservice. I think Ace comes out of this looking bad, which is sad because it's the first time I've seen him do so. Considering how disappointed I've been with Johnson's behavior over the years, looking bad compared to him should give a sane person pause.

FWIW, YMMV.

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