1 This is the same fool, notably at the Atlantic, that has tried to defend cap n trade, who has attacked every aspect of equitable tax policy that the Governor attempted, so unless we discover dilithium any day now, we're out of luck

2
This is the scary type of ignorant thinking in the Obama admin. Their main goal is social justice. And they think they're so clever they can sustain their radical policies with a new "green" economy.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

3 I see the basic problem right now, with Socialists rising, is that we need to establish space colonies, FAST, before we have another dark age.

If we don't have a moon colony in ten years, we won't have one for two thousand years.

4 Sure, but what if the Chinese want to get paid in cash for this new technology?

5
Funny how these armchair economists never take into account the mammoth lawsuits that hamper research & development.

Pfizer just got burned by the govt for $2.3B! There will come a time when these corporations and industries throw their hands up and say 'fuck it.'

6 No, I can't pay my credit card debt now but in 20 years my inventions will be complete and then...hello? Hello?

7 OT:

Tapper: Does Van Jones continue to enjoy the confidence of President Obama?

Gibbsy: "He continues to work in this administration."

8

This writer does not "get it" at all - the real threat of the debt has *nothing* to do with technology in the future.  The threat is much simpler and more direct - with the debt skyrocketing, we are quickly going to lose our ability to keep financing it with other people's money.  (especially the Chinese)  When they quit buying our debt, interest rates will skyrocket as the dollar collapses against other currencies and this country's economy will be destroyed for a generation, if not two. Unemployment will not recover for a decade, at least, because under high interest rates new job creation will be anemic, at best.

Ask Argentina how this worked out when they tried it. 

Of course, we could always simply try to "monetize the debt". (ie, print our way out of the jam)

Weimar Germany and Zimbabwe have tried that one.

He writes that "The fundamental problem here of course is one of timing."  Well, yes, he's right with that one.  And our time runs out LONG before any possible techno-fix can come to our rescue. 

9

...There is a good, simple reason for taking a more selfish view of the cost our present debt imposes on future Americans: All else being equal, those future Americans will be leading better, easier, richer lives...

Substitute "Roman" or "British" or "Sumerian" in there and see if the message is still the same.

 

10 Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Defense spending responsible for most of these government-generated technological leaps?  I'm thinking of the internet, GPS, and so forth?

I'm pretty sure this fuckstick doesn't support Defense spending  .  .  .

11 2
This is the scary type of ignorant thinking in the Obama admin. Their main goal is social justice.

I got into this with someone last night.. he admitted to owning 401K's and IRA's.. but feels 'guilty' about it because they have been bought with 'blood'.

I told him to sell them. His reply, "I will if you will."

12 Somewhat related to this thread:

Good column by Peggy Noonan today.

You heard me. Peggy Noonan.

She's beginning to come around. Like the battered wife who finally wakes up to the fact that her husband really is a bad guy and that he's not going to stop being a bad guy.

She's just about ready to head off to the female pundit's equivalent of a battered woman's shelter.

13 He writes that "The fundamental problem here of course is one of timing."

FYI - I wrote that, not the Slate writer.

14 How much money do we have to borrow to keep the printing presses going?

15 I've shamelessly exploited my grandaughter, Ally, for some Anti-Obama Posters re debt etc. They're cute. My name has the link. Don't tell my son-in-law, an Obama supporter.

16

I got into this with someone last night.. he admitted to owning 401K's and IRA's.. but feels 'guilty' about it because they have been bought with 'blood'.

I don't even know how to respond to idiots like that.  Seriously.  All they get from me is a blank stare and a turn away.

17 "Technology"/"Smarter"/"Green". . .these are all just bullshit that people tell themselves when they don't want to make hard choices.

You can't do reasonable scenario planning with these kinds of assumptions. =It's the same reason the CBO doesn't do projections based on law that isn't on the books yet: you're making shit up. Even worse, you're forgetting about conservatism (the economic/accounting kind) and making the best-case your only case.

I have a friend that was all tied up in knots about the WoT. He'd ask why we needed a conventional army in Afghanistan when "special forces" should be used. I countered with "why use special forces when you could use sorcery or a time machine?"

These assholes know just enough to be dangerous. Which means they don't know shit.

18 Tell that guy to sign all his assets over to me.  I know it'll be rough on me, but I'm pretty "tough" emotionally and will be able to handle "the guilt" for him.

19 Relax, borrowing money makes us richer!

20 All the new technology in the world is meaningless if all you've got to finance it is a wad of paper that's been devalued to the point you can get more in exchange for a roll of toilet paper.

21 Hey it's Friday, how many bank closures this weekend?

22 #12 - I read that piece by Peggy Noonan and had a hard time believing that she actually wrote that...poor old Peggy..bet she is drowning her sorrows in scotch.

23
What happened to Obama's so-called Smart Grid?

And remember that thing about thermostats and how the govt will be able to track you thermostat settings?

24

Let's base everything on having fusion-powered everything a week from next Wednesday.

Problem solved.

 

25 poor old Peggy..bet she is drowning her sorrows in scotch.

I hope Zombie Ronald Reagan shows up and gives her a c**t punt.

26

What will fill that gap before we get Civilization v2.0 online and producing?

With all the stuff going on between now and then?  I think this gap will consist of..

only chaos. 

27 The other problem is that if you hit the bottom now, all those pretty developments will be further off, since you can't R&D without $.

28 And how are we going to finance all of these improvements with technology Mr. Slate writer?  Money is not an infinite commodity, unless you do not mind needing a wheelbarrow full of it to buy a loaf of bread (oh, my bad, you write for Slate, you will need a wheelbarrow full of it to buy a latte - and no tip for barista).  See, every dollar the government borrows takes that same dollar out of the funds available to lend to private companies to develop, market and exploit the new technology that you are counting on.  Every dollar I spend on welfare and government waste is one less dollar I can spend on innovation and research.  Does anyone understand basic economics anymore - or are we really peering through the lookingglass?

29

...The main reason that the future should be better off is staring at you from the light-emitting diodes in the back of your screen: improvements in technology...

Powered, no doubt, with unicorn farts, 'cause America isn't going to have the energy from carbon sources.

30
We are racing headlong into an Eloi/Morlock split.

Technology advances leading to wider availability of the goods that make "the good life" possible will accelerate this split.

Either the Eloi assclown in the White House is retarded enough to think that the machinery that makes ours nation great runs itself and can absorb his gefingerpoken, or he is intent on destroying it.

The only way we survive is to disenfranchise the cattle.

31 What will fill that gap before we get Civilization v2.0 online and producing?

2 men enter, 1 man leaves?

32

Tech without power is pretty useless.

And given that the sworn enemies of the US can exploit tech while we shoot ourselves in the limbs means that we may contributing very little to Civ v2.0, or worse yet, not at all.

33

30 We are racing headlong into an Eloi/Morlock split.

Interesting analogy.

34
>>>And how are we going to finance all of these improvements with technology Mr. Slate writer?

Simple: with the savings and prosperity we gain from green technology!

35

What will fill that gap before we get Civilization v2.0 online and producing?

 

Hey PA, get with the times. We are currently on Civilization ver 4.0 now. Complete with phony African folk songs to go with our phony African president.

36 If the Won succeeds in establishing the socialist paradise he envisions, innovation and technological progress will be stifled and life will not be better for the grandchildren. We can see it already with the nature worshipping Luddites in power. They want us living in caves.

37 BTW, I was first, in recent memory

38

#35  Hey PA, get with the times. We are currently on Civilization ver 4.0 now. Complete with phony African folk songs to go with our phony African president.

Yes, but it's being destroyed by global warming!  We must build lots of solar plants so that the oceans don't rise and flood everything!

Playing civ2 and dealing with the global warming nonsense at the upper time tiers pretty much turned me off to that series.  I rather just play the ancient campaigns or, better still, stick to GoW.

39 OT, but this is outrageous.  The AP has decided to publish a photo of Marine Lance Cpl. Joshua Bernard as he is dying of his battle injuries, over the strenuous objections of his family and Sec Def Robert Gates.

Objections can be directed to:  info@ap.org

40 Inform the Architect we might need to re-boot the system.

41 isn't Defense spending responsible for most of these government-generated technological leaps?

Through recorded history, the major "technological leaps" have happened as a matter of necessity rather than government funding.

By "necessity", I mean ideas "who's time has come", and the technology of the day was capable of manufacturing devices to implement them. 

This "implementability window" for the "big ideas" might vary 50, 100, or even more years one way or another, but once it opens up, and there is a pressing need, someone somewhere working in a lab or their garage will stumble across it and it becomes reality.

This is where our turbo-boost is going to come from.  The ability to manufacture some very strange shit that would have been impossible even 10 years ago is fast becoming reality.  We can manufacture exotic materials today with a laser that would have been flat out impossible to manufacture or even conceive of 10 years ago. 

42

Fuckin Idiot Slate metro-soysuckin' asshole

I'll talk extra slow for all Progressives .... there are only Primary Assets and Secondary Assets that make the world work.

Derivatives, tertiary, paper-mache fiat currency ?    DOESN'T FUCKIN COUNT asshole. Slatefuck eejot. Metro future meat-sack parasite

Soil, water, mineral deposits ?  PRIMARY

Crops, metropolitan water system, steel or gold ?  SECONDARY.

Both of those are tangible, and valuable. Desirable even !  People will even pay, or seek to exchange other valuable, TANGIBLE goods for them. Lemme go slow for ya there, Sparky ... I make a bitchin cuppa coffee, from coffee beans I grow and harvest. You give me some of your YuppieFoodstamps for it ... as long as your YFS are grounded in a REAL TANGIBLE ECONOMY. But the fucking left has systematically emasculayed American Culture for the last 40 years, literally and figuratively. Real economy ? ... we simply can't have that ! ... we must protect fish ! ( see current CA fires Slatefucks ) ... and judge that billions of gallons of water shall seek the sea, rather than arable cropland. Nuke energy ?  Coal ?  Oil development ?  Nyet, comrades. We will proceed to a Glorious Future under the leadership of Dear Leader Mau-Mau Man. And yea ! ... see if your research department can grok that reference. Daddy and grandad we're members of that little anticapitalist "youth-group" back in the day.

Thank you for demonstrating the fundamental, elemental, indivisible Idiocy that is longer an impediment to the Left, but an absolute fucking requirement for inclusion in your deluded - and thankfully soon to be eliminated - brotherhood.

Excuse me ! ... non gender-designated Affiliation-hood.  Assholes

43 Will the nanobots be powered by nanowindmills?

44 Primary Assets are about to become a lot more valuable, I'm afraid.

45 Peggy Noonan drank the Kool-aid and asked for seconds. She has nothing to say I am interested in hearing. I was way ahead of her on this guy, and I don't seek advice or opinion from people I don't think are smarter than me.

46 ditto #28

crushing tax burden of corporations and individuals as well as interest payments on the govt. debt will limit the development of technology.  the administration has already killed a number of high-profile defense programs, which consistently reap technological benefits for the consumer.  whether or not it's the best way to advance our understanding of aeronautics and space, nasa is broke and will cease to provide much innovation.  consumers will be hard-pressed to shell out for the latest technology simply because they have less money to spend.

you simply can't get new technology from income redistribution, increased taxes, and single-payer healthcare.

47 Will the nanobots be powered by nanowindmills?

Probably by harvesting the background radiation of the universe.  We already have a material that has shown it can do that ;->

48 All I know is that when the oblivious dolts I go to school with realize what is being done to their future, they will not be happy. 

As they struggle to pay off their massive college debts, spend  hours looking for a non-government sector job, and weep over the fact that their food stamps aren't accepted at Whole Foods...they'll curse that Evil Boosh, who set poor old Obama up to fail and forced him to squander their future. 

49

Thank you for demonstrating the fundamental, elemental, indivisible Idiocy that is longer an impediment to the Left, but an absolute fucking requirement for inclusion in your deluded - and thankfully soon to be eliminated - brotherhood.

I'll bet OhioDude and Fortney Stark don't share the same alma mater.

50

Playing civ2 and dealing with the global warming nonsense at the upper time tiers pretty much turned me off to that series. 

 

I edited that shit out.  

51 Vic@35
lol
Rise of Mankind ftw

52

What will fill that gap before we get Civilization v2.0 online and producing?

The Visigoths.

53 Monetize it baby!

54

Don't worry. I'll save you boys. But I don't do windows.

55

The Visigoths.

SPLITTERS!!!

56 As far as Peggy Noonan's concerned, a major Bleh to her.  Gosh, it took Ted Kennedy's funeral for her to figure out that Obama is cold and not in a "cool way" (she was so in the tank for how "cool" and unruffled he was).  And to just figure out now that we have an amateur running the country who has staffed his administration with young, callow, arrogant, amateurs--doesn't say much for Peggy's intellect (and she, a card carrying member of "the smart set").  Whatever!

57 Kratos, I think they've revamped how global warming works.  I never see it happen now unless I get nuke happy (which doesn't make a lot of sense).  Of course I always build the big Dam (whose name changes from one version to the next) rather than coal plants and own a third to half of the world at that point.

58

There are many things public officials probably shouldn't do during a severe recession, but no one seems to have told the leaders in Florida about them. One thing, for instance, would be giving a dozen top aides hefty raises while urging a rise in property taxes, as the mayor of Miami-Dade County recently did. Or jacking up already exorbitant hurricane-insurance premiums, as Florida's government-run property insurer just did. Or sending an army of highly paid lobbyists to push for a steep hike in electricity rates, as South Florida's public utility is doing.

And you wonder why the Sunshine State is experiencing its first net emigration of people since World War II.

Imagine that.

59 What will fill that gap before we get Civilization v2.0 online and producing?

Hope.

60

If the Won succeeds in establishing the socialist paradise he envisions, innovation and technological progress will be stifled and life will not be better for the grandchildren. We can see it already with the nature worshipping Luddites in power. They want us living in caves.

Well, in The Won's defense, a recent study showed that the desired carbon emissions level would take us back to 1875.  So it would be a little bit better than living in a cave, but not much!

61 the administration has already killed a number of high-profile defense programs, which consistently reap technological benefits for the consumer.

Not to mention well-compensated "tech jobs" (buzzword I loathe).  Thousands of jobs destroyed by the administration itself, even as it yaps about "creating or saving".

62

This is the scary type of ignorant thinking in the Obama admin. Their main goal is social justice.

No Justice, No peace!

63

The Visigoths.

SPLITTERS

 

The Truthers

64

screw the kids' future

That's funny. That's what I'm programed to do. BTW, keep that Allahpundit guy away from me. I've heard some bad stories about him from the prototype models.

65 Vic@50
If only there were a Rules.ini file for real life.

66 "Nothing brings out the Republican Party's concern for children like the national debt."

Am I wrong on this or do I not remember that one of the myriad of reasons that Bush was such an asshole to the left was that he was spending too much fucking money?!

Shit if these people are not myopic.

67

Peaches, thanks for the link.  Here's what the AP said in defense of running said photo:

“The image shows fellow Marines helping Bernard after he suffered severe leg injuries. He was evacuated to a field hospital where he died on the operating table,” AP said. “The picture was taken by Associated Press photographer Julie Jacobson, who accompanied Marines on the patrol and was in the midst of the ambush during which Bernard was wounded. … ‘AP journalists document world events every day. Afghanistan is no exception. We feel it is our journalistic duty to show the reality of the war there, however unpleasant and brutal that sometimes is,’ said Santiago Lyon, the director of photography for AP.

Psst AP, George Bush isn't CinC any more.  You might want to, you know, tone it down.

68

I have never read such an imbecilic, airheaded, ignorant, juvenile and immature article as the one linked. How did this idiot manage to get a job spouting such useless bullshit? Does the author not realize that our own government is doing everything is its considerable power to make sure that our economy can never recover? That our court system is populated with liberal judges who allow any kind of lawsuit against anyone or anything for any reason and actually consider our Constitution irrelevant and place some insignificant animals' "needs" ahead of the real needs of people? Sheesh!

I know my doctors would have a cow if they heard me say this, but I need a drink and I could care less what time it is.

69 OhioDude at 42

"Mau-Mau Man" wow

Is ammunition a primary or secondary asset?

70 OT: Johnson finally woke up and his first post of the day addresses Van Jones. Surprise, surprise, he is sticking to his story, declaring that Rense.com simply isn't a credible source. Pathetic.

*****

"As people dig around for incriminating evidence on Van Jones at 9/11 Truther sites and crazy conspiracy sites like the antisemitic, Holocaust-denying rense.com (which, by the way, is not a credible source of information about anything), here are a couple of tidbits that tend to back up Jones’ claim that he is not a Truther and signed that infamous document under false pretenses.

First, Ben Smith contacted two of the other “signatories” of that document, and learned that they had indeed been misled by the Truthers, and thought they were signing a legitimate document calling for further investigations.

In other words, the Truthers lied about the real intent of their document in order to get people to sign it.

Imagine my surprise.

But that’s not all. The document currently posted at the Truther website was altered to remove a name: Rachel Ehrenfeld, author of “Funding Evil; How Terrorism is Financed and How to Stop It.” ...

Please note: if Van Jones is forced to step down over the issue, I’m not going to be unhappy. He’s clearly much farther to the left than a presidential aide should be.

But it’s a little pathetic that people would eagerly accept the word of Truthers and rense.com, without any other evidence."

*****

So there you have it. He says the sources are not credible, but Van Jones is credible. End of story for Lizardoid Fah King Johnson.

71 Am I wrong on this or do I not remember that one of the myriad of reasons that Bush was such an asshole to the left was that he was spending too much fucking money?!

Some of them said that as a justification for their hate, but it was probably just to win over reasonable people.  Plus, Bush spent it on evil things like keeping us safe from a second terrorist strike, not good things like welfare and reparations.

72 I'm scared of the coming Cambrian Explosion.  Someone hold me. 

73

"What will fill that gap before we get Civilization v2.0 online and producing?"

I'm betting that what fills it is a collapse of our government, massive die-offs after the grid collapses, and post-apocalyptic biker gangs roving the wasteland. 

And about a 200 year dark age.

 

74 Peaches - Indeed.  Thanks for the link.

This is the change we are getting.  Motherf--kers feel enabled now.  I have absolutely no qualms about wishing terrible outcomes on them and their correspondents.

We are sinking fast.

75 "Some of them said that as a justification for their hate, but it was probably just to win over reasonable people. Plus, Bush spent it on evil things like keeping us safe from a second terrorist strike, not good things like welfare and reparations."

Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 04, 2009 01:31 PM

Yep, one of my former lefty Obama-lover friends told me she had no problem with Obama's projected massive spending (when I informed her Obama was lying about being a tax-cutter and was going to spend and tax like the Leftist he is), just so long as we stop spending the money on foreign wars and spend it here at home.

So my guess is that there are plenty of Obama-lovers like that: those who are in favor of massive spending, so long as it is spent on the correct things. And they were just lying about being upset about the deficits during the Dubya years.

76

#69 ... Jean  .... your Q? : ammo ?  Primary or Secondary ?

hehehehe ... technically speaking, it's a secondary good, as would be constituent primers, powder, cases and bullets, and requiste presses and dies

But, if we are to follow the Guiding Light of the Alpha Strategy, they'd be real Assets, easily stocked, invaluable in a future, and used for the General Welfare in debriding the useless, gangrenous residue of all that stinks of LibProgressiveGlobowarmthinkEnvirotwinkFauxfeministCryptocommieism

You already knew the answer ... but I haven't yet calmed down from the article. Wait ! .... thorazine autoject ... kicking in ..... nowww. Better 

77 The real problem right now is demographics. And a global "water empire". Because science is not compatible with Islamic fundamentalism (don't believe a damn thing most historians have written about Arabic nourishment of science and mathematics during the so-called Euro Dark and Middle Ages: they stole their sh*t from the Hindus and Chinese): Islam is intolerant of the scientific method. Those [demographic] numbers are not good at all. Steyn is the only one carrying this water; he's right.

78

#72 I'm scared of the coming Cambrian Explosion.  Someone hold me. 

Hey, you have Kevlar while I go around fighting creatures of myth basically half-naked in a leather skirt (the Golden Fleece is awesome though).  You hold me.

79

To sum up Slate's position-

1:  Massive Inflation

2:  ?

3:  PROFITS!!!

80 "This is MY town hall meeting and I set the rules" -- video.

"Usually the films end up on youtube in a compromising position."

Ya think?

81

MMMM... Pizza Hut & Russian brides.... 

 

82

I'm betting that what fills it is a collapse of our government, massive die-offs after the grid collapses, and post-apocalyptic biker gangs roving the wasteland. 

Excellent.

83 And about a 200 year dark age.

RACIST! 

Oh, and 200 years if we're very, very lucky.

84 for maddogg - http://tinyurl.com/kteo9a

85 I go around fighting creatures of myth basically half-naked in a leather skirt

We're gonna need some pics, Kratos.

86

I know this is O/T

but CJ at LGF is doubling down on crazy, and won't even admit there is new evidence from gateway pundit of Van Jones working a  9/11 truther board.

man he is totally gone

87 We're gonna need some pics, Kratos.

Not so much, thanks.

88

#85  We're gonna need some pics, Kratos.

You don't wanna see such things.  I don't have the physique of my namesake. 

Or you can just google "Kratos" or even "Kratos Destroys Helios" if you want the idealized version.

89 Is ammunition a primary or secondary asset?

Posted by: Jean at September 04, 2009 01:30 PM (L64A6) -

Primary of course. Think Legolas without his arrows. Besides, with ammo, you can go out and get some food (by hunting). Without ammo, someone might just come and take away your food.

90 Come the apocalypse, a .22lr and 10k rounds of ammo is gonna be pretty damn valuable.  I'm rethinking moving back into metro Houston, staying 40mi out of town might not be a bad idea.

91 Future generations will find a way to make this generation pay.

No social security or Medicare for Democrats sounds like a good start. Not sure what their organs would be worth ... the glue factory might be more cost effective.

92

Along with the firster ninnies who jump on every post like a 12-year-old, can those of you who give a shit go start a blog called "CharlesJohnsonWatchers.com"?  Or perhaps "JohnsonWatchers.com"?

Thanks.

93

Jean @ 84

Thanks, but I already posted that on the Headline thread, # 5 IIRC.

94

Without ammo, someone might just come and take away your food.

Are you going to eat that?

95 I had read that the Chinese are/were banking on the U.S. inventing some magic panacea, and that is why they were willing to go to the wall buying our debt.  Now if the ChiComs can figure out that capitalism is the best prescription for innovation, well then......

96 Jeez, I hope I don't get scolded for going OT again, but the Pentagon is going to deploy unmanned Reaper drones against the pirates!  Can I get a "hell, yeah?"

97

Just get Colonial Insurance for the eventuality of Killer Robots, because Robots are the number 1 cause of death in the elderly.

98 If I were as ignorant as the author, I would hope my comrades would shoot me and put me out of my misery.  OTOH, ignorance is bliss, so maybe it's okay.

Naturally, government deficits (and high levels of spending generally, even if "paid for" with current taxes) actually sap the capital which is necessary now and in the future to FUND the innovations the writer envisions.  This stuff doesn't just happen on its own. 

Leftists, however, seem to believe in magic unicorns which can crap Skittles on demand.  Morons.

99 Peaches:

Hell Yeah!

100 My understanding is that we have a prototype transporter beam for moving money and property. Put stuff in the chamber and it disappears. They have not worked out how to make it reappear somewhere else, but hey, half the job is already finished. Let's fund the bastard.

101

O/T Georgia is moving to block ObamaCare via the 10th Amendment. It's in the blogs at AJC.com

 

102 Personally, I think it inconsiderate of the Pentagon to deprive a SEAL of the pleasure of offing a Somali pirate. There seen to be plenty to go around. Share the joy, I say.

103

What will fill that gap before we get Civilization v2.0 online and producing?

Greener, smarter printing presses?

104 O/T Georgia is moving to block ObamaCare via the 10th Amendment.

That's worth a "hell, yeah," too!  I think Texas has made similar noises.  Power to the people, baby!

105 I had read that the Chinese are/were banking on the U.S. inventing some magic panacea, and that is why they were willing to go to the wall buying our debt

That's pretty much the way it is.

The Chinese have made a huge bet on future American innovation...because they'll be the ones mass producing the stuff Americans dream up and develop.  They understand the strength's and weaknesses of both our cultures, and see the two nations as being complementary in the long run.

Based on historical data, the Chinese made a sound bet.  The only thing working against them is the stupidity and general incompetence of the US Congress...which they may have underestimated.

106

Posted by: Peaches at September 04, 2009 01:58 PM (9Wv2j)

Ruh Roh, that sounds like a DOJ lawsuit or investigation waiting to happen.  Poor innocent overseas wealth redistributors, flying no country's flag, being attacked by an American machine of war.  I'm sure Eric Holder will be very busy pursuing the perpetrators of this decision.

107 98 - Unfortunately, liberals (and others) have come to believe that if there is a problem, economic or otherwise, it can be resolved through legislation and there is no limit to the number of problems or the number of times the problems can be legislated away.  There are also no consequences to this tactic.  And this is reinforced by what else - legislation. 
How many times has medicare or social security been "fixed" through legislation.  What did the legislation accomplish?  It magically created a bigger hole.  And what were the consequences?  There haven't been any.  And that's all they see.  They cannot grasp that one day the piper will show up expecting to be paid. 
Legislation - magic to morons.  (not you -  the real morons... the stupid ones... no really... I was talking about them...  I think I'll just shut up now.)

108

Just get Colonial Insurance for the eventuality of Killer Robots, because Robots are the number 1 cause of death in the elderly.

But they die with smiles on their faces, Ben.

109 #104  Are you kidding me?  Hell yeah!  I had no idea.  Go Georgia.  Secession anyone?

110
Re the comments on Peggy Noonan:

We who read this blog already know that Noonan is a fool. And we already know what she's only beginning to realize and articulate about Obama and his administration. We don't need her instruction. The point here is that Noonan is a card-carrying member, as it were, of the Beltway elite. And Obama is clearly losing her. That's important. When our powerful enemies begin to declare against our main enemy, that's something worth noting, paying attention to ... and using.

111

O/T Georgia is moving to block ObamaCare via the 10th Amendment

Thems some nice peaches, Georgia.  I sure would hate for anything to happen to them. 

112 Runningrn, speaking of Eric Holder, how soon can we uncover more dirt on him and have him join the crowd under the bus?   A crazy conspiracy theorist might think this administration wants another 9/11.  Then they'd have reason to shut down the internet, and roll out Dear Leader's civilian militia.  (No, I'm not a conspiracy nut.  Just sayin'.)

113 OT: the guy filling in for Rush today is brutal.  He's just putting me to sleep with this lecture, what happened to Steyn?

114 The guy on Rush is Walter Williams, an African-American economist who's quite brilliant, but a bit dry.  He also had Thomas Sowell on via telephone, someone I think the world of.  But, yeah, it's kinda snoozy.  Rush is back on Tuesday.

115 start a blog called "CharlesJohnsonWatchers.com"?  Or perhaps "JohnsonWatchers.com

There are several already. Start here.
http://www.littlegreenfootballs2.com/

116

She's beginning to come around. Like the battered wife who finally wakes up to the fact that her husband really is a bad guy and that he's not going to stop being a bad guy.

I'd liked to punch her right in the ovary.

117

Walter Williams may be a bit dry today, but he is often delightfully droll. 

For years he has regaled Rush listeners with descriptions of the "thoughtful" Christmas and birthday presents he gives "Mrs. Williams".

My favorite is the ice grippers for her boots, to keep her from slipping when she's shoveling out their 100 ft driveway.

 

 

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If only there were a Rules.ini file for real life.

 

LOL, set Obama = 0

119 93 maddogg, from your link I can't find my to my link of the same article - in an archive with all of their other predictive articles.  It like they are druids or Mayans waiting for  SC24 to appear, so they can sacrifice some virgins (or our economy) for AGW again.

120

btw, the Slate guy is doing nothing more than restating an old bit of cynicism:

"What's posterity ever done for us?"

121 Walter Williams is usually great.  And make that a Tony the Tiger GREAT!

122 113 OT: the guy filling in for Rush today is brutal.  He's just putting me to sleep with this lecture, what happened to Steyn?

You know, Steyn could do a kick-ass weekly show.  Daily is fine, but he's so good at tying things together and his schtick is fresher that way.

If Rush ever decides to do the Carson thing and take a day off every week, Steyn should be his Leno.

123 119 Jean. Sorry, I saw the same graph as in my link and thought it was the same. I shall review further. Thanks again.

124 "What will fill that gap before we get Civilization v2.0 online and producing?"

Bingo!

Even with Kurzweil's 'Law of Accelerating Returns,' you've still got ten to fifteen years before the bleeding edge tech has a real impact on the economy. In the meantime, the Fed is floating checks to cover the Treasury ...and the Chinese have cut off our line of credit...and the Japanese have elected an administration that isn't real friendly towards the United States. ...and the interest on the debt keeps accruing and compounding. ...and the US keeps spending money it doesn't have on things it doesn't need and can't afford.

125 119 Jean. A solar physics blog. Now in favorites. Thanks again. Note there are no comments for that latest post.

126 Any scientific advances that far out are not sure. Far too much can and will happen between now and then. Haven't you ever read Popular Science? Even if you are playing a role in it, stop and think. Even if the science does come to fruition; will it actually be affordable?; can it be maintained by the mal-educated and enlarging illiterate populace?; is what takes to build these items sustainable?; and a dozen other such questions. It never works out as promised, as it seems now. As with future super medicine, on the drawing board does not make it so, number one. Cynical? A bit, but more... practiced. I have seen the promises since I was a child and I have yet to see technology truly be life changing, unless you call addiction to computers, games, online gambling and porn (for many), an improvement. Beyond, what I see with computers is though they have helped, they have also created a generation (or three) who cannot seem to do simple tasks required to do the heavy work without the use of machines. With every sword, a war. With every advance, a step back. With every promise, a doubt and a cost. But with all things too, hope. If one has lost hope, nothing matters. So, good luck with your part of these ventures, in any case.

127 Where's my jetpack?

SF was predicting that decades ago.  So we ought to have it by now.

128 What will fill that gap before we get Civilization v2.0 online and producing?

Soylent green.

129 maddogg@125  ... as despair sets in ...

I wonder what that scandi diplomat or scientist who broke down crying is going to do if SC24 comes in really low.  He should be on suicide watch.

130 As the owner of a tech company with groundbreaking new technology, I can attest to the fact that it is much harder to get the investment needed to get the technology out in the world in this current environment. Ever since congress passed Sarbannes/Oxely and took the golden goose of IPOs off the table it has been harder and harder to get investment. The events since Sept 08 have made it even worse. We are getting investors and even major companies to invest, but it is trickling in instead of pouring in. Forget about VCs, all they want to invest in is software technology, no matter what a game changing piece of technology you have. Oh and by the way, our technology could absolutely qualify as a green technology and it's still hard (so much for green jobs).
Through the persistence of the business development team and family loans, we have been able to wait this out; and yes things are turning around. If we had not had those resources, our technology would be dead in the water while we were working other jobs. How many other great ideas are suffering that fate? You need a free economy for people to have the resources to create the technologies to improve life. The person who wrote that article at Slate should join the real world - technologies don't get invented out of thin air or by magic. Debt consumes savings that would be the investment capital for new technology. Government projects, while sometimes yielding results is the most inefficient way and not based productivity, innovation, and profitability but mostly on politics and pull.

131 What will fill that gap before we get Civilization v2.0 online and producing?

I claim Rome as my capitol.

132

nice

133 Even if the science does come to fruition; will it actually be affordable?; can it be maintained by the mal-educated and enlarging illiterate populace?; is what takes to build these items sustainable?

Yes, yes, and yes. 

The idiot leftists WILL get their so called "green economy", but it will be as a side effect of the compelling economics of these new technologies, rather than as a driving force for their creation. 

134 Methos:

Play online with real humans ... when your neighbor is a human, and not an AI, Stacks 'o Doom and nuclear weapons start to become necessities.

Go to Apolyton, get involved in the friday night Australian multiplayer game, and they will tech you how fast a "builder" player can die in a real Civ 4 game.

"Nice Pyramids you got there. My huge f*cking army of cavemen with clubs is going to take it from you now."

135

Not to be nit-picky, but my monitor is color LCD. I sincerely doubt that anyone has ever owned an LED monitor. Other than the props from the Six Million Dollar Man or Buck Rogers back in the seventies.

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122 113 OT: the guy filling in for Rush today is brutal.  He's just putting me to sleep with this lecture, what happened to Steyn?

113, you know that phrase "coarsening of the culture " Alan Bloom talked about ?

YOU are a product of that coarsening.

Williams had Thomas Sowell as a guest.  Both are black, both are brilliant, both are conservative.

Apparently they sailed over your ancephalic buddings.  

You should go listen to Anthony and whateverhisname is, or maybe contact the guys who fucked up Boston with their electronic "prank".

Giggle giggle.

 

 

 

 

137 We are racing headlong into an Eloi/Morlock split.

Jeez, Morlocks I guess. I'm pretty hairy anyway, and the Eloi were like commie-hobbits (no hot chicks like in the movies).

I'll start work on our underground lair, with a note for future generations to immediately kill any Englishmen they run across.

138 #135

To be fair, I believe he was referring to the backlight of the monitor, a role increasingly filled by LEDs.


But other than that, the guy is insane.

Lets look at the last time the economy was so screwed up, largely thanks to government meddling. (See Amity Schlaes 'The Forgotten Man' ) The period of the Great Depression saw immense technological advancement. A huge list of things existed in 1941 that were only dreams in 1929.

But did anyone at the time think they were living in a tech golden age? Or were they more concern with keeping a roof over their heads and food on the table?

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