1 liverfurst.

2 Yesss...I'll contort myself anyway necessary to serve you my mocha master!!

3 His journey to the dark side is complete.

I know, I know ... raaaacisssttt!!11!!!1

4 I am proud to say I've never been to Charles Johnson's blog.  Therefore, I know not of this insanity of which you speak.  (But I'm sure I'll learn in record time.  Heh.)

5

If you get nasty to Charles, I am going be all over you banned SOBs like an Israeli D9R Caterpillar on Rachel Corrie..

6
Charles who?

7 Charles Johnson is Andrew Sullivan, with a beard.

8 Charles,

Thanks for Rathergate. That's the only credit you'll get from me.

9 The way of BalloonJuice Johnson goes. 

10 Right on Ace!

Semper Fi

11

And as an ABC commenter pointed out, Van Jones was so important and on everybody's radar screen in 2004 that the Truthers decided to forge his name on their petition. That's really believable, isn't it?

12 I can't stand that little green weenie.  Ever since he dropped the moonbat and jihadi from the title logo he has gone soft in the head.

13 Fuck you, fuck you, Ace!

14 The die is cast.
The circle is complete.
LGF has shagged the shark.

It was inevitable. 

15 Ace is so, so very banned.

16 Charles Johnson is an internet Nero, performing art and athletics and forcing his minions to praise him.  "What an artist the world is losing in me" were Nero's final words and I can just see ol' CJ saying that as he passes.

17

"There is simply no point any longer arguing with CJ or protesting his bannings or all the rest of it. He is plainly an ObamaBot, as zealous a partisan as Eric Holder or David Axelrod, and it's time to just accept that and MoveOn.org."

you got that right, the guy is off the reservation. CJ loves Obama because he thinks Obama is all scientific and stuff. the fact that he's a marxist dictator in training doesn't bother him so much.

18 CJ's followers are lucky there is no comet in the sky.

19 Yep, the LGF site has been on a downhill slide since Fall of last year. Used to be fun and informative, but I don't go there now.

20 Fuck you, fuck you, Ace!
Posted by: Mandy Manners

Pictures or it didn't happen.

21 CJ, I can't say this on your site - because it is not worth the trouble you invent to comment.  But here, as in America, folks can say their piece.

You suck,  Your site sucks.  Yes, you did some good stuff at one point - so did Randy Cunningham,

Now you are just mold on what was a tasty left over bit of food.

Bask in your irrelevance.  The rest of us just don't care.

22 "Time out" for you, Ace.

23

Thank you ACE!!!!!

Finally, CJ has been incrimentally losing his mind.

He hates glenn beck so much that he is willing to side with anyone else who hates beck. The sad thing is that beck doesn't like birthers, creationism, anti vaccine people, just like Charles Johnson, but he is still not pure enough for CJ.

 

He gives daily updates on the Glenn Beck Boycott. The man has lost it. He used to have a great anti jihad blog, now he has become a jihad in his own right, or should i say, against anyone leaning to the right.

 

24

Judging from his cycling shorts, he hasn't evolved well...

25 No link for you! 

(But I do link to the Daily Kos on my news feed.)

26 I'm with you Jane D'oh. I've only heard of CJ because of people here.

Ace, do you have control over the content of the ads on your site? These Bob McDonnell ads are tiresome.

27

Charles is the light of the Universe, the omphalos of all wisdom and the gravitational center of all thoughts and scientific reasoning on this planet.

This Photoshopping genius is like a brilliant Times New Roman font shining in a fetid sea of pale Helvetica.

28 But I do find it interesting how easily he contorts himself into whatever new shapes the Obama Administration requires.

Dude, have you seen the creases on Obama's pants?

29 Chuckie is a ban-happy sissy.

And, apparently, down with the Marxist, Black Nationalists, too.

30 Van Jones was so important and on everybody's radar screen in 2004

Ah yes, ABC, I fondly remember that summer of Van Jones mania. I still have my Van Jones Fathead.

31 He's still running a fine anti-terrorist blog.

It's just that the terrorists he's against now are Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, the town hall protesters, and you.

32 You'll regret this Ace.  You have no idea that I'm about to get a job with the Obama Administration as the new Internets Czar.  With this power I shall forge a new ban-hammer, with even more power than all the sun energy the new Japanese PM's wife consumed.  No comment, no blog will be safe from My bannings.  I shall finally purge teh Internets of anything Fascist or Creationist.  Then, all will know teh Truth behind Global Warming Climate Change, and my victory will be complete, muhahahaha!

You Will Be Banned, Ace!  In advance, I bid you adieu. 

33 28 And by creases I mean "tremendous trouser bulge"......

34 He's a creature of the left, and to be more more specific, the creepy left.  He always has been.  He is merely reverting to the mean.

35 Sarah Palin

She doesn't even wear pants. Eww.

36

5 Ohhh Sharmuta

You remembered ME !!

Kisses

St. Pancake (flatter than an old ladies ass)

37 you got that right, the guy is off the reservation. CJ loves Obama because he thinks Obama is all scientific and stuff.

Yeah, well, I'm a scientist.  My friends are scientists. Cahrles Jhonson is no scientist.  _{Being right about evolution doesn't make you a scientist, buddy.} 

I hope whatever chick he's boffing that's got him convinced that man-made global warming is "settled" is good in bed. 

38 31 He's still running a fine anti-terrorist blog.

It's just that the terrorists he's against now are Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, the town hall protesters, and you.

Enjoy your new space on the Enemies List, you fascist, Creationist (I see through your "agnostic" lies) pig!

39 At the risk of unnecessarily inflaming passions, I do think this is emblematic of anyone who is not just neutral towards conservative Christianity, but the natural progression of the person who is opposed to Christianity. SO I AM CLEAR...People who are neutral or generally positive (but not believers themselves) towards Christianity do not seem to exhibit this behavior (e.g. Ace, Malor, Althouse, Insty, Buckley, etc.)

John Cole, Andrew Sullivan, and Charles Johnson amply demonstrate the idea behind Romans 1 (and no I DO NOT MEAN the sexual aspect of it) more just the idea that as you turn to hate God he really lets your mind sink into absurdity. The part of professing to be wise they became fools, I mean really, when you think of 3 people who just fell off their rocker royally you think of those 3 and they all have one thing in common, they hated God more than they loved genuine freedom (libertarian freedom), and so they are in the procees of well losing their minds.

40

notice that Van Jones said he is not a truther, not that he never signed that petition.

That is like saying, I am not a murderer, but i may have shot a living entity that then went on to become a corpse.

41

It's On!

We have the strength of millions because our bacon is hickory smoked.

42

CHARLES F*CKS SHARKS!!!!!

 

 

43 35 She is a fecund snow billy.So COMMON......

44 #37 I hope whatever chick he's boffing that's got him convinced that man-made global warming is "settled" is good in bed.

Don't talk that away about Sharmuta...I mean, this Swedish supermodel I have in my bed, along with Kos! 

Link Nazi, I bid you adieu.

45

This Photoshopping genius is like a brilliant Times New Roman font shining in a fetid sea of pale Helvetica.

More like Comic Sans, Cato.

46 <sub><sup>32 You'll regret this Ace.  You have no idea that I'm about to get a job with the Obama Administration as the new Internets Czar.  With this power I shall forge a new ban-hammer, with even more power than all the sun energy the new Japanese PM's wife consumed.  No comment, no blog will be safe from My bannings.  I shall finally purge teh Internets of anything Fascist or Creationist.  Then, all will know teh Truth behind Global Warming Climate Change, and my victory will be complete, muhahahaha!

You Will Be Banned, Ace!  In advance, I bid you adieu.</sup></sub> 

_{^{Posted by: Cahrles Jhonson at September 03, 2009 10:16 PM (otlXg)}}

Why does this seem way less funny than it would have a year ago?

47 It would appear the LGF has finally jumped the shark.  Kinda sad.

48
So Van Jones is a whack job and Char Rules Johnson goes to bat for him...
Just proves the old "Birds of a Feather" proverb

49

#24 Charles Darwin

Now that is funny.

50 xin loi   Old Lady's ass

51 One wonders what evidence CJ has for that assertion.

Or is that beside the point?

52 Admit it, St. Pancake, your 'friends' beat you with a tire iron after staged pics of your greasing the tracks of a D-9... people make it too the e-room after greasing tracks all the time, don't they.

53 I'd like to kick against that prick!

54 QuarkXPress is not Quantum Mechanics, Chuckles.

55 Wow.  I just wandered over there.  I ruined my new hip boots.  Hadn't been there in a while.  No fatwa against AoS yet, but the comment dialogue is left of mainstream DNC press releases.  What the fuck happened to that place? 

56 New partial fifth vertebra of Diplodocus hayi found near Utrecht! Read all about how this fascinating find vindicates Obama's Population-Culling Czar John Holdren position on mandatory sterilization at my blog!

Dum-Dum, come on over! I'm a "pragmatic" "non-partisan" just like you!

57 Cahrsel's definitely broken his bicycle chain. He's pedaling hard but that back wheel just won't turn

58 51 One wonders what evidence CJ has for that assertion.

Or is that beside the point?

How dare you question Charles!?  He came to this assertion by logical reasoning.  Don't make Irish Rose put you on her enemies list...

59 (KJsKY)


great hash - 'specially for Brooks.

60

"CJ loves Obama because he thinks Obama is all scientific and stuff."

Neither CJ nor Obama has any more scientific acumen than your average dried up wad of spunk.

61
Charles Johnson saw a crease and bump in Van Jones pants and he liked what he saw.  Not saying he's a full on cock sucker, but maybe he would be bad to hold Van Jones dick in his mouth, but by God, there is no way in hell that Charles Johnson would suck on it.  You can take that to the bank. 

62 If it's all the same to you, I would like to get Levi Johnston's take on this whole situation. 

63 Oh, and guys?  All you morons treating Beck like he was just an emotional, weird, recovering alcoholic  with a half-assed show on  Fox.

How's Beck's butt taste now, bitches.

64 "If I have to choose between believing Van Jones or believing 9/11 Truthers, there's no contest.

Truthers lie constantly. It boggles my mind that people are willing to accept their word for anything."

 

"re: #3 MandyManners

So, how did his name get on it?

It's extremely common for 9/11 Truthers, creationists, and anti-AGW groups to add prominent people's names to lists like this without their knowledge"

 

"re: #6 Gmac

Sure, and I have this swell bridge for sale btw...

So you're going to accept the word of a Truther website?"

 

all charles johnson comments, go look at his comments section, he is f'ing insane.

65

Charles Jones?

That names sounds familiar?   Didn't he have some kind of blog?  That no one goes too?

Ace, this is sort of like Andie?  Why post shit from this goof ball?

History.  That's what he is History!

Kemp

66 Last time I posted about CJ here, I mentioned that, although I had disagreed with CJ on his blog, I had not been banned by him. I have since posted in a single thread, where I questioned CJ's reading comprehension.

Yeah, I've been banned.

67

CFnJ is weapons grade crazy people!  He has banned nearly 1000 people and that's just the ones I know about.  He admitted that to stalking other blogs comment sections when he said that posting on another blog with your same nic will get you banned "immediately". he's a loooonatic!

last night, he put a comment in a thread on his own blog linking directly into our chatroom.  out of his alleged 20k registered users, about 15 showed up.  and rumor has it that 1/3 of them will be staying!

68 I've never read this guy's blog, but he sounds like a first rate douchebag. Is it me, or are the former conservatives who became liberals twice as insufferable as long-time lefties? Sullivan and that wanker at Balloon Juice became unreadable, then became cartoonish jerk-offs. Well, Sullivan was always a jerk-off, but you know what I mean.

Ace, a few Sullivan-style digital beat downs of these other humps would be great reading.

69 I used to really like the LGF site, back when it was mostly about Rathergate and pictures of bicycles in Palos Verdes, CA,  and musicians who I knew about and some who I didn't but liked when I listened.  Yeah, I even bought a damn shirt.  Now, it is unreadable.  Ace, you gotta come out with a shirt I can buy.

70 #55 Wow.  I just wandered over there.  I ruined my new hip boots.  Hadn't been there in a while.  No fatwa against AoS yet, but the comment dialogue is left of mainstream DNC press releases.  What the fuck happened to that place?

De-evolution?

71 I know, I know ... raaaacisssttt!!11!!!1


http://tinyurl.com/msp4xc

72 almost as bad a charles johnson's comments are the other posters, there are some that critsize, but they do so hesitantly, the rest are just bots

73 Converts are always more zealous don't ya know....

74

Oh, and guys?  All you morons treating Beck like he was just an emotional, weird, recovering alcoholic  with a half-assed show on  Fox.

How's Beck's butt taste now, bitches.

see my post in the last thread, it is in bold.

75 Wow, Ace, great post.

76

Well, Mr Ace, I'll be seein' about cuttin' your fockin' nuts off with a rusty saw blade to show you LGF's toleration in action, you Vlaams Gang Blanger.

77

No, no way the ponytaled Huffy riding blob, and wannabe jazz virtuoso is spinning for a communist. No,no way.

Shocked I am.

78

Johnson: It's extremely common for 9/11 Truthers, creationists, and anti-AGW groups to add prominent people's names to lists like this without their knowledge.

Of course. Van Jones was quite "prominent" before he landed the Obama job. "Free Mumia" agitator and all that.

79 in fairness Johnson was never a conservative and never claimed to be, ever. He was quite clear on the fact that he was a 9/11 liberal terrorist opponent.

But the "liberal" part of that is the biggest part now.

I mean, god, he's spinning for a Truther.

80 CJ is having the longest untreated breakdown in history. No wonder he is backing Zero - he need free healthcare pronto!

81 How about some Queen, apropos of nothing? 

82 I deleted LGF about 8 months ago.  Used to be a good read then CJ slowly started slipping down the rabbit hole.  Just like Elvis, we should try to remember his early days, not the disconnected sweaty version that he became.

83 Is this really worthy of a topic?  Where's the ONT?

84 I used to read CJ, then he banned me for saying I believed in creationism. In all honesty, I his blog was my favorite, well-written, and timely.

I don't even read it anymore, it has turned to pure crap, I have honestly wondered if his blog was just a big prank on Conservatives, get a bunch of us to read his site, then slowly turn it around.

I dunno, he's a moron.

85

What is REALLY funny is that Charles has revealed each of his two best sockpuppets in the first ten posts of the thread!

Charles at post #2

Mandy Manners at post #3 - playing the FOIL

Sharmuta at post #8 - playing the explication role

Charles at post #9 - playing the rapid responder with friends on his side.

AT HIS OWN BLOG - IN THE FIRST 9 POSTS of a controversial thread Charles and his sockpuppet selves have 4 POSTS! LOL! REALLY?

86 You know that he probably is puffing himself up now thinking that people think enough of him to write about him.

Carly Simon "Your So Vain"

87 Dude, no WAY am I giving that bonehead traffic by clicking the link.

And for the CJ sycophants....

Ponytails on any man over 30 is laughably pathetic.

Road bikes are teh ghey.

And jazz has been shit since 1960.

88 I'm so glad I stopped reading that fucking tool's website.

89

Thank you Ace.

I am thankful to Charles Johnson for giving me an online home for 2-3 years, for free. I met lots of great people, learnt much about many things I didn't know before, and had my viewpoint expanded to at least understand where (some, patriotic) liberals were coming from.

But that was before he decided that he hated social conservatives (and not just creationists) and despised libertarians as well.

To those Ace regulars who are getting frustrated that Ace doesn't ban trolls as diligently as he might: LGF is where the banhammer ultimately leads. You all might cheer if Ace gets rid of this bunch of truthers or that bunch of leftists. But eventually bannings and watching "meltdowns" become a sport in themselves. And you'll have to ask yourself - will it be YOU next time to get sliced?

90

66

Well, now you're double-secret detention banned, Mister Wiseass!

I'm going to wear you out like Barney Frank's lower colon!

91 Just wondering why LGF is still on your blogger in arms list...?

92 CJ slowly started slipping down the rabbit hole.

I went through the looking glass, not down the rabbit hole, you stupid fuck! Lizards don't go down rabbit holes!

Banned.

93 He came to this assertion by logical reasoning.

Well, geometric logic.  He's Captain Queeg.  I prefer to call his place Little Red Strawberries.

94 Link Nazi, I bid you adieu.

Posted by: Cahrles Jhonson at September 03, 2009 10:20 PM (otlXg)

Adieu? The language of cowards and pimps? We will expect your total surrender at the first sign of danger.

95 Oh, and guys?  All you morons treating Beck like he was just an emotional, weird, recovering alcoholic  with a half-assed show on  Fox. How's Beck's butt taste now, bitches.

Simmer down. Beck did a good job knocking the hell out of a dope who founded the group boycotting his TV show. Definitely good work, but nothing a decent blogger couldn't do.

96 I can haz ONT? 

97 #85

They're all sock puppets? 

98 18 CJ's followers are lucky there is no comet in the sky.

Posted by: eman at September 03, 2009 10:12 PM (AKepb)

It's short notice, but lemme see what I can do.

99

Charles Johnson said:

Why am I so skeptical?

Because they are TRUTHERS.

Hello?

HAHAHAHAHA -

are.you. fucking. kidding. me.

Did the doucher really drop "Hello?" like some 15 year old chick on her third period?

LOL

100 Yes, thus my 'abandoning' LGF about 6 months ago.  I haven't looked back, there are so many better blogs (this one among them), that I don't even miss LGF.  A few years back LGF did good work on some things, but it's gone WAY downhill.

101

You are all on the Enemy List I compiled.

And Charles Johnson rules!!

102 CJ is a Keokuk Kob Kleaner.

103 The Progressive Blogger is done, he's finished. Whatever credibility he had from the  Dan Rather case is done. By denying in the face of all evidence that Van Jones is a Radical Progressives and  9/11 Truther, he claimed it was a Bircher/ Beck/Paulian Conspiracy. His Totalitarian progressive nature coul not allow him to comprhend, that Glenn Beck was correct about Van Jones.

Icarus's wings have permanently melted, he's not even worth discussing anymore!

He's dismissed!

104 wtf, Charles likes the commie Obamie? When did this happen?

I left sometime shortly after he got his fossil fetish.

105 #87  Ponytails on any man over 30 is laughably pathetic.

I'm going to find you and break every bone in your body.  With a hammer.  Watch Kill Switch to see an example.

I looked great with a pony tail in every movie I made:  Above the Law, Marked For Death, Out For Justice, ect.

106

#97 Kratos

All I can say in response to your question is to quote Charles from a few minutes ago -

"Hello?"

107 Jump the f-ing shark already.  That took waaaaaaaaay to long.

108 No - I meant he slipped down the rabbit hole cause that's where the shitt pellets are...at...is...

109

85

"AT HIS OWN BLOG - IN THE FIRST 9 POSTS of a controversial thread Charles and his sockpuppet selves have 4 POSTS! LOL! REALLY?"

It's going to be like "the Walrus and the Carpenter" over there pretty soon, and there will just be two of them, Charles and some surviving  lickspittle sycophant, talking to each other,

110 And jazz has been shit since 1960.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 03, 2009 10:29 PM (9Lm5R)

Amen. Amen. Amen.

111

Well, now you're double-secret detention banned, Mister Wiseass!

And number 89, too, Sharmuta, me princess. Methinks Davey wants to lose his nuts, just like Ace once I get me mitts on him.

112
85
Did you know, in a Humbolt Blue haze, he mistakenly got enraged at one of his socks posts and banned the lot.
He spent two days writing code to extricate them from the bowels of bandom.

113 I gave up on that place on election night. I think that's when CJ finally dropped completely over the edge. There were warm fuzzies and tinglys running up and down his blog legs when Teh One was declared victorious. It was then that I knew his blog had realized the law of diminishing returns. Add that to the other wacky liberal potpourri he often championed and it all became unpalatable. No love lost at all here for LGF, that's for sure.   

114 #103

Fuck you, fuck you!

115

Don't ever "flounce" on Lgf... Johnson will "flouncy flounce" your comment to the deleted pile and ban ur ass. What a bunch of pathetic tools.

116 CJ is just like Obama, a Narcissist who capitalizes on one moment of virtually insignificant fame to build his resume' until he believes his own hype.

Not a bad thing, for a musician, or for a blogger, but it's a very bad thing for a true thinker.

117 Did you know, in a Humbolt Blue haze, he mistakenly got enraged at one of his socks posts and banned the lot.
He spent two days writing code to extricate them from the bowels of bandom.

Posted by: Beto at September 03, 2009 10:34 PM (F1b/5)

That is hysterical! 

118 At this point even Sharmuta has taken Charles' tiny dong out of her mouth, wiped her lip clean, looked him in the eye, and asked "what the f*ck are you playing at, Bike-boy?"

119

I just have to snicker.  Or snigger.  What's the proper, modern word for laughing in total disrespect for Charles Johnson?

120 I looked great with a pony tail in every movie I made:  Above the Law, Marked For Death, Out For Justice, ect.

Posted by: Steven Seagal at September 03, 2009 10:33 PM (otlXg)

You looked great.  You acted like shit. 

121 You big meenies!  I shall sic my sweetie Lars on you!  You will all pay!  Looosers!

Ok, now I gotta hit the mean streets of Grand Rapids, you pathetic peeps!

122 Let this be a warning kids, huffing the WD40 fumes when you lube your bike is bad.  Combine that with the too tight pony tail and Lemmiwink's evil twin making a journey to his brain ahd here you are.

123 I fully support Colonel Khaddafi's move to ban Switzerland.

124 Shhh...I am making vit de hid-und-zeek mit him...

125 #106

Point conceded. 

Despite what Charles has become, I'm still more sad than angry because like many others, I once thought of LGF as the premier blog. 

126

#118 Again - because it was that good:

At this point even Sharmuta has taken Charles' tiny dong out of her mouth, wiped her lip clean, looked him in the eye, and asked "what the f*ck are you playing at, Bike-boy?"

127

please go look at his comments section scroll down to comment 271.

 

Charles says that,"That statement from STORM was released weeks after 9/11, when no one knew the full story. Lots of people were talking about the "bombing" of the World Trade Center then."

 

Holy Flucking Shnit. I don't know anyone talking about 9/11 as a bombing weeks after the attacks. I think everyone knew at 9 am September 11 that planes flew into the buildings, not bombs. does his insanity know no bounds.

128 I just have to snicker.  Or snigger.

RACIST!!!

129 really guys - cut the dude some slack. he needs medical help. OCD, clinical depression, etc.

on second thought - just crazy.

130

I think this response by Chuckie just about sums it up:

Charles - I'm curious about something, if you care to answer. You mentioned that you thought Gateway was an extremist blog. Which conservative blogs do you find to be the sanest/most reasonable? To be honest, I've reached the point where there's almost no conservative blog I can stand to read any more. They've almost all gone off the deep end since Obama's election. Allahpundit is still usually pretty sane, but he's viciously attacked on a regular basis by his own readers.   Yeah, they've gone off the deep end.  Wow.  How odd that you can't stand conservative sites.  Odd, unless of course you're a liberal, ya big douche.

131 What's this shit about some karate dude with a pony tail?  A pony tail??"?  Are you fucking kidding me??  Please.  I'm the man.

132 Or snigger

You are so banned!

133 His ego about the vlaams belong or however you spell it, and his hatred of geller (there's a bet where you still put your money on the table just cuz there's a fight, and are glad that they will both get blood) and his obsession with creationism, and his near daily insults to any christian has just consumed him.

I don't know if he still has an interest in Pajama's and such, but if he does, I have no doubt he thinks of that as HIS glory and EFF everyone else.

Nevermind the fact that Insty signed on with it is why PJ is really much of anything at all.

All the others Ace, Jeff and everyone else with the banners, were really just canvassers for the start-up operation that became PJTV, meant to be replaced by "greater talent."

134

"Bowels of Bandom" - Sweet!

 

135 Yeah, well, I'm a scientist.  My friends are scientists. Charles Johnson is no scientist.

If Obama were ever to release his college transcripts, I'd bet $1,000 right now there's no science or engineering courses on them other than some bullshit survey crap some humanities freshmen get. 

Algebra and a semester of intro biology are enough to get you through most lightweight BA humanities degrees.

136 Charles Johnson has finally lost it!  He says never trust the Truthers because they lie.

WHY WOULD THEY LIE NOW WHEN VAN JONES WORKS WITH THE PRESIDENT?

137 LGF jumped the shark for me last summer.  Thanks for Rathergate but that was it.

138 I'll tell you what.  There's a lesson to be learned here:  Never get crosswise with Ace.  Never.

139 #126 -

I have incontrovertible proof that you once moused over a Vlaams Belang link.

You are clearly a Nazi.

Banned.

140 Charles Johnson, Charles Johnson...

Isn't he like a famous retired basketball player that does TV commercials now?

141

Despite what Charles has become, I'm still more sad than angry because like many others, I once thought of LGF as the premier blog. 

 

me to, otherwise i wouldn't even want to talk about this guy. I am so pissed at what he has become. I compare it to having a friend for several years who means something to you, only to find one day he has become a terrible person. While i dislike those on the left, i hate those turncoats on the right even more.

142

THE BEST LGF BLAST EVER:

http://tinyurl.com/cff9fb

 

143 really guys - cut the dude some slack. he needs medical help.

Ridiculing the infirm is what we do here, man.  Really.

144 Mmm. Snickers.

145 Geez, it makes me sick to see the way people grovel if Chuck objects to even mild questioning of His Word.  They are such whipped puppies, so afraid little Anthony is going to wish them into the corn field.

146

Say it ain't so ... Could it be that Char-less, e.g. Chuckles? The unwaivering voice of holier than thou, dasher of truths, conservative snarking sniper at the parepet, Johanneson (name changed to protect the children) a.k.a. Little Green Footballs has:

Bitten the shark?
Jumped the bullet?
Walked the Juarez WeedEater?
Crossed the Maginot Line?
Awakend Wake Forest?
Reeled in the last biscuit?
Shoved the Last Shovel?
Spent his last $60 on a Tijuana Mudpie?

Or has he simply lost his grip on reality?

It seems like the answer is not important, as long as the questions are interesting.

Chuckles is (and ilk) are invited to direct their flame-war commentary to Traction Control who (in the interest of full disclosure) is not a fan of the asshole or any of his his synchophant commentors.

 

 

 

147 And to think, I found this blog through his. Well, screw him.

He dropped me for absolutely no reason - not a comment or anything. I think he dropped me because I linked him from Jihad Watch during their blog war.All I wanted to know was what was going on.

I am a little bit sad, though. His was the first blog I followed regularly  - purely because of his reputation from Rathergate.

By his logic vis a vis Van Jones, none of the other 99 on the list are real either. because you just "can't believe a truther website."

Wow.

148

Purple Avenger

i regret not taking a survey class, i wish i knew how to survey land.

149 #120 You looked great.  You acted like shit. 

Hey! Don't make me flip your gun out of your hand after you come up real close to me and yak.  I do that in every movie, natch.

Anyway,  I have several markers I use in my movies to show that I'm a great actor.  Here they are:

1) Holding a pistol sideways.
2) Quickly grabbing and breaking an opponent's limbs.
3) Getting my face all scrunched up when I'm really mad.
4) Wearing baggy "Indian" clothing in a futile attempt to conceal my weight gains.
5) Really, really "earthy" regional dialects.

And lastly, every actor should have a perfect character on screen.  It builds confidence, and self-esteem.  If only those bastards at the Academy Awards would finally give me my props...

150 Any Yourins call ME a BOOGER, EVER AGAIN, And Yourins Banned.Got it?

151

I, as others, don't know what happened to LGF. I read it daily for seven years. But in the last year it's become tedious and annoying.

Look, anyone can be tedious and annoying. It's not a crime. But Charles has just gone off the Res. I don't get it, and sadly, I no longer care.

152

#138 rdbrewer

Ace has been kind, cordial and patient, even defending LGF when most posters at aceofspades were in full hate mode. Ace showed much more graciousness towards Charles than the Lizard Lord ever reciprocated. Ace finally having enough is just another kind man's acknowledgement that Charles really is an untenable douchebag.

153

See? I told you he was no good.

Courage!

154 I wear my banning proudly.  December 07.  I'm an early adopter.......

155

He dropped me for absolutely no reason - not a comment or anything. I think he dropped me because I linked him from Jihad Watch during their blog war.All I wanted to know was what was going on.

Dude, you didn't have a button-up ass-flap in your trowsers.  Relax. 

156 122

Hi bebes!

157 all I can say to all of the above is, "well, duh"

welcome to a year and a half ago, ace (or more)

my take: johnson fancies himself as a hip, liberal (in the classic sense), intellectual guy and he became mainly known as a Muslim basher, fairly or not. So, he decided to rebrand himself. There's no quicker way for media types and lefty blogs to approve of you and write glowingly of you than to trash conservatives.

I think he also came to a pass that I'm sure Ace is familiar with (our site also fell into this trap when we started getting 250K pagehits a day)- diminishing returns on ad revenue and spiraling bandwidth costs. He does get a lot of hits, but I'll be good money he makes bupkis from all those hits. This explains why he's so quick on the ban trigger: when bandwidth costs are eating you up, you really get pissy about paying for the space for people to bash you. Plus, he may _want_ to lose some hits and thin out the pack. People start using your site as a giant chat program, and what the hell do you get for it? Plus, he got big enough and annoying enough to the left that they started the dirty pool of blaming his commenters' comments on him.

I'm explaining, but I don't defend him. I think he's a giant douchebag who basically posts like a troll, just trying to piss off other right-blogs because he despises them and thinks he's above everyone else. Ace took the bait this time, but Johnson's crap is very calculatedly outrageous and asinine. Now he'll post attacking AOSHQ and get mucho mileage out of that.

I hope he gets run over in his faggy bike shorts and someone cuts off his middle-aged pony tail as a souvenir.

158 To those Ace regulars who are getting frustrated that Ace doesn't ban trolls as diligently as he might

Trolls save you the effort of going to Kos or DU to scope out what the opposition is thinking, only you don't need a full body HazMat suit to do the recon.

159 JDW, undefensible.  Ayup.

160 Right on, Ace.

161 And if yourins want to come to LGF.2  You better be ready to kiss my fucking ass. Dick.

162 I am here to to defend the honoroble Mr. Charles Johnson. Just becauase my name is the Defenseman, aka, Wild Fungus Grow, no way would I ever swat Chuckies balls away from my dicknibbler. Besides, you guys know,defensefag is just a gay proxyofmine.

163

So, have you always been a terminal moraine? And for whom did you vote in the last election? Are you a registered esker?

164 Wanton douchebaggery.

165 79 in fairness Johnson was never a conservative and never claimed to be, ever. He was quite clear on the fact that he was a 9/11 liberal terrorist opponent.

But the "liberal" part of that is the biggest part now.

I mean, god, he's spinning for a Truther.

Posted by: ace at September 03, 2009 10:26 PM (TkYWo

Um Ace, with all due respect but didn't you link to an article where CJ was interviewed where he talked about being a conservative?  You might want to go back through you posts concering LGF over the past year and double check, I'm almost certain he called himself conservative.

166

Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 03, 2009 10:47 PM (AV7KI)

But the trolls are the only reason I come here anymore.  I already know what you assholes are going to say.  It's the trolls that are unpredictable in their utter stupidity.

Besides, trollbusting is awesome.  And cheaper than greens fees.

167 Thanks Ace for going after the guy that ruined my career!

168 I looked great with a pony tail in every movie I made:  Above the Law, Marked For Death, Out For Justice, ect.

Your hair & makeup department didn't do you any favors in your later films Hiding the Donuts or Cashing A Check....fatass.

169 And palin steele still owes me a clean hog barn.  Here piggy piggy.....

170 He's gotta get a job first Herr.  Hell, for all we know, maybe he's still flossin' out that old man's finger that he chomped on in LA!

171 I Fucking have none.

172 THE BEST LGF BLAST EVER:
 
I'd never seen that. A classic. I laughed my ass off.

173 Ace, you had another post deriding yourself and the Alt-Media for not vetting this guy, well the Americans for Limited Government did a fine work up of him in April. It just never went viral.

Here is their workup.

And they link back to his website for documents he wrote but alas Vanjones.net is now "under construction."

Shocker

174 I AM A PROFIT OF DOOM SHARK JUMPING FAKE INTEGRITY

25 OT: I just deleted LGF from my Google Reader.  Sorry Charlie, you've jumped the shark, or something.

Posted by: FloofyParisParamus at September 03, 2009 07:30 PM (IaGYz)

175 He's gotta get a job first Herr.

Pigshit is a job.  Ask Hillary.

176

Fruitcup now available on the extreme LEFT COLLUM.

Come get it kids!

177

Johnson has his "Fiskie" 

Let's create the "Twatski" and award the first one to this fucking tool.

178 All of you, you're NOT on the body!!!!

179 CJ must have a thing for perfectly creased pants.

180

I don't think he loves me, like I love him.

*sniff*

I thought getting my catheter, so I would never leave the computer day or night, would prove my undying love. Did he even notice?

181

Well over a year ago I quit going to both Balloon Juice and LGF; sites I use to visit every day. For a nano second I missed them but then I realized I could now spend more time reading all the crazy shit time you  morons at AOSHQ  come up with every day.

Finally since I no longer visit Charles site - is there any truth to the rumor he's changed the name from LGF to DTFS (Darwin Twenty Four Seven) ?

182 I suspect Charles has a brown bra and braided Viking wig that he dons before he posts as Mandy Manners. And a tiny gray dildo he shoves up his ass before posting as Sharmuta. He can don and drop these accessories with equal dexterity. When he’s Charles he just licks the length of an old bike bump – mumbling “yeah”…

183 Um Ace, with all due respect but didn't you link to an article where CJ was interviewed where he talked about being a conservative?  You might want to go back through you posts concering LGF over the past year and double check, I'm almost certain he called himself conservative.

So? Obama spent 2 years calling himself a moderate and look what happened.

184 Allahpundit is still usually pretty sane, but he's viciously attacked on a regular basis by his own readers.

A blog where the host gets criticized by his own readers?

Madness!

The only people more annoying than guys like Charles or Sullivan are their sycophantic followers.  Being allowed to disagree is necessary to make the comment threads interesting and worth reading.  It's one of the reasons why I come here.  I cannot comprehend a person who actually enjoys going to LGF and reading 400 comments of "you're so awesome, everybody who disagrees with you sucks."  Granted there are more popular positions than others here, but if I stuck in an atmosphere like Johnson's blog (even if Charles tilted rightward again), I'd damn near want to puke.

I second David Ross, this is one of the reasons to be wary of using the banhammer too much and I'd add this one of the reasons to be wary of registration.

185 I thought that it was someone at Free Republic who caught the TANG faked memo first?  Did Chuck just do a visual demo?

186 Hey guys, can I play too?

187 Um Ace, with all due respect but didn't you link to an article where CJ was interviewed where he talked about being a conservative?  You might want to go back through you posts concering LGF over the past year and double check, I'm almost certain he called himself conservative.

Lord of the Bicycle pushed his flying monkeys to hit the vote counter over and over for "Best Conservative Blog" back in January. So he was still pulling the tranny act until it became too obvious

188

 

Hows my 90 mm pic of a rusty nail look to you?

BANNED!

189 Second sentence has one to many "times".  At LGF would this get you banned?

190 Screw Charles! He fucked me over good!!!

191 >>>I thought that it was someone at Free Republic who caught the TANG faked memo first? Did Chuck just do a visual demo?

Yes. "Buckethead" spotted them as fakes. However, CJ was an early, credible voice echoing that assessment, and his visual proof was, well, case closed.

I got a lot of tips about that but I didn't believe it until I saw guys like CJ pushing it. At that point I thought, "Okay, better get on this."

192 I'd love to reply but Obama's cock is so deep down my throat I can't get a single word out.

193 185 I thought that it was someone at Free Republic who caught the TANG faked memo first?  Did Chuck just do a visual demo?

Yup, that was Buckhead. Of  course Chuckie, being the typical Hollywood phony grabbed the glory and took all the credit with his little MS Word gif

194 OK, it's officially a cult.  Comment #413:

Michael Jackson's getting buried in the Forest Lawn Memorial Park right now in California. Remember he died June 25 and Charles Johnson was on that story.

CJ covered the MJ thing?  And he was the only outlet, right?

195 Honestly, if johnson feels threatened by glenn beck, he should be beaten to death with a roll of french bread.

196

EVEN ZOMBIE for the respected Zombietime IS QUESTIONING CHARLES' REASONING

Which immeidately led Charles to invoke his sockpuppet Sharmuta to claim Zombie is grasping at straws...

197 immediately

198 Charles has a brown bra and braided Viking wig that he dons before he posts as Mandy Manners. And a tiny gray dildo he shoves up his ass before posting as Sharmuta. He can don and drop these accessories with equal dexterity. When he’s Charles he just licks the length of an old bike bump – mumbling “yeah”…

199 If you notice progressive Charles Johnson's website on the blogroll of your favorite conservative websites, perhaps it is time to start letting someone in charge know they need to remedy that issue quickly....

There should be no links to that progressive blog from any center or right of center website. The guy is a straight up leftist with nothing but hatred for conservatives.

200 Wow. CJ has lost his mind. When I was reading and commenting on LGF, truthers got STOMPED into the ground. Now he's making excuses for them.

hypocrisy, it's what's for dinner.

And I'm sure we're all banned. LOL!

201 I think I would be suspicious of myself if I hadn't been banned from LGF.

202 Come to LGF.2 I get to piss all over my relitaves while you read my (nother sob story) Its so fun! We need the traffic too LOL!

203 I don't want to appear naive, but do some of you really think a few of those "characters" over at LGF are in actuality CJ's socks?

204 well he looks stupider as facts come out: http://twitter.com/jaketapper/statuses/3748611519

205 So clearly this is good therapy.  Someone go put $2.50 into CJs paypal account..it's the least we can doo bee doo bee doo.

206 195 Honestly, if johnson feels threatened by glenn beck, he should be beaten to death with a roll of french bread.

Look at those Nazis (no, those fascist, Creationist Nazis) on AoSHQ - they're threatening to kill me!

You are hereby banned from my Internets.  I bid you adieu.

207 do some of you really think a few of those "characters" over at LGF are in actuality CJ's socks?

Psychologically, it's indisputable.

208 CJ. we summon you like we might summon...um... more cotton candy.  Come.  Do your worst.  We deserve it.  Hell, minotaurs have to bend over for kings.  Get your sweet ass over here. 

209 @ Comment 199

I agree 100 percent. Charles has always got the itch to ban anyone who disagrees with his agenda that it is time for conservative websites to cut his links.

210 please don't sockpuppet LGF commenters. I've gotten complaints and it's not fair.

If you want to do that kind of thing parodize the name so it's clear that it is a parody.

211 The universe was CREATED in only 100 years by Glenn Beck!  HAH! Take that!

212 #208 was pretty lame.  I bet you could take me.

213 Allahpundit is still usually pretty sane, but he's viciously attacked on a regular basis by his own readers.

They're probably the ones who also read his twatter thingy, where he goes full Johnson just about every day, then comes out acting all like he's not that same bitch.

Or so I hear. I don't read it. I try to think as well of the guy as remains possible, because of ye olde days.

They are olde, though.

214 If you read the comments at LGF, many point out that Jones never says he didn't sign the pledge, or whatever the heck it was. However, CJ claims that even though Jones doesn't deny he signed it (and the Truther people indeed said they contacted people by phone and talked to them) it still isn't proof, and therefore, he believes Jones and not the hard copy.

LGF is sad. I didn't even bother getting banned. I just lost interest when the Creationism hate started. I then found Ace....

Sigh. What a dreamy blog.

And I find the ewok talk so..... satisfying.

215 210 please don't sockpuppet LGF commenters. I've gotten complaints and it's not fair.

If you want to do that kind of thing parodize the name so it's clear that it is a parody.

You're the boss, Ace.

Still, fuck you, fuck you!

216 I just asked about the socks, because I had always surmised that the excessive boot licking was merely because some of the readers there had no outside life whatsoever, and were deathly afraid of getting hit with the banning stick.

217 Yeah, need to advise ++undead to drop LGF from his blogroll.

218 please don't sockpuppet LGF commenters. I've gotten complaints and it's not fair.

If you want to do that kind of thing parodize the name so it's clear that it is a parody.

Posted by: ace at September 03, 2009 11:14 PM (TkYWo)

Principal always takes away our fun.  I'm egging his car.

219

203 I don't want to appear naive, but do some of you really think a few of those "characters" over at LGF are in actuality CJ's socks?

I don't, but I think many of those who make the charge are employing Alinsky's "ridicule" tactic.  (Chuck employs it all the time, but like all true liberals goes nuts when it is used against him.)  Plus, it makes for some damn funny reading.

220 PLEASE remove LGF from you links. Its the only way I go there. PLEASE help me!

221

Fuckity funkin effers.

Hows that look, Chas?

222

cahrles is a raging douche. end of story. i'm sure he's going to write a post to bash aosHQ for being a bunch of mouth breathing knuckle draggers as soon as he gets barry's mystery meat stick out of his mouth.

blah not even worth getting into it with a bunch of brain dead blind followers. which i'm sure instead of actually looking at bj's truthers lied fairy tail or van jones, they will just bash us.

so let this be my preemptive strike. suck my balls lizard fckers.

223 Smithers.... Release the hounds

224 In other news, Kylie Minogue is hot.

225

Take on the veterans of a thousand psychic wars.

 

226 Ace as a school principal.  Hmmm.  Comedy potential there I think!

227

Earlier today one of the LGF posters noted that it was odd that the 'buy gold' ads seem to only run on right-wing sites.  Chuck agreed, and found it a strange coincidence (Or is it???).

Strange? Really?  How about they advertise on conservative sites because conservatives actually work and can afford to invest in gold, asshole?

228 Charles has a post saying it has suddenly become fashionable for right wing pundits to call for cutting and running in Afghanistan. I wonder who these right wing pundits are. The only one he quotes is George Will who is well known for being critical of Bush's handling of Iraq. Let's see, by pundits he means one pundit. Charles is a useful idiot.

229 No stranger than all the leftie sites saying buy Obamacare!

230 Hey are you dissing Open Threads, Music Open Threads, Glenn Beck Bashing, Open Threads, Pretty Video Open Thread, Creationist Bad Thread, Lather rinse repeat......   As someone above said, Thanks for Rathergate, but I really must be going....

231

I've been wanting to give that fucker a piece of my mind for a while now.....

His fellating Van Jones over, of all things, trutherism, was frankly the last straw.

Welcome to Banned Camp.

Charles Johnson...Idiotarian of the Decade.

232 me to, otherwise i wouldn't even want to talk about this guy. I am so pissed at what he has become. I compare it to having a friend for several years who means something to you, only to find one day he has become a terrible person. While i dislike those on the left, i hate those turncoats on the right even more.

Johnson was never a conservative.  9/11 scared some sense into him, and he really did shine during Ra^thergate, but he's always been a lefty.  So it's not really fair to call him a turncoat.

233 Fuck Van Jones and Fuck Charles Johnson. Two peas in a pod.

They are both -275 Bronsons and rank under Rip Taylor in credibility on politics.

Pony tails can be cool. Like Lynyrd Skynyrd pony tails. But not John Denver pony tails.

234

#233!!

235 #227 Strange? Really?  How about they advertise on conservative sites because conservatives actually work and can afford to invest in gold, asshole?

You dare question my brilliant observation!?!?!  I shall have ATUMRAHS lay down an evolutionary curse on you!

Also, no Internets for you!  I bid you adieu.

236 Next thing you know, Charles will be putting up a Word document showing how easy it would be to type in Van Jones on the 911 Truth site like he did with Rathergate.

237

Oops,

#234!

 

238 I would have loved to be banned, but I could never manage to hit one of those nanosecond wide windows for registration, so I gave up trying a couple of years ago.

239 238 I would have loved to be banned, but I could never manage to hit one of those nanosecond wide windows for registration, so I gave up trying a couple of years ago.

You're now on the Enemies List, PA.  Charles bids you adieu anyway.

240 sorry about cussin all over the thread, but Olivia Newton Johnson kinda pisses me off.

Sorry about that, Ad Folks.

241 You know, people keep giving credit to Charles Johnson for Rathergate. Sure, he posted about it on his blog, but so did plenty of other bloggers, including the gentlemen at Power Line, who I believe received Bloggers of the Year or something that year. Also, I don't believe Johnson did anything other than post what some of his commenters sent him. I believe that the one who actually discovered the memos as fakes was a commenter at FreeRepublic. Power Line and then LGF were the ones who then ran with the story.

But did Johnson come up with that flashing picture showing the fake memo on top of a 2004 typed up MS Word memo? No, I believe one of his or FreeRepublic's or Power Line's commenters came up with it and fed him the info to post.

So really, Johnson didn't do anything except pass on info on his blog fed to him by other people. He doesn't do any research on his own. Not like what the people at Sweetness and Light do (who researched TUCC and Rev Wright in JAN 2007, a full YEAR before anyone else bothered to post about it) or what the gentlemen at Power Line do.

No, Johnson simply finds articles, posts a couple lines of commentary, if that, and then posts the article. The commenters were the ones who did all the work.

What I am getting at is that if Johnson did not exist, someone else would have been able to push the fake TANG memos story. And actually, they did, since Power Line was on that story as much as, if not more then, Johnson.

The way I see it, Johnson is simply AllahPundit without having Michelle Malkin giving him his paycheck to keep him somewhat in line. I'd bet anyone that if AllahPundit were to leave HotAir, he'd be Johnson's sidekick in a second.

242

OK, one more post about CJ and I'm gonna stab myself in the eye with a pencil. (Or maybe I'll just say mean things to myself in the mirror.)

243 Sure thing Ace. Sorry.

244

245

I, for one, welcome inqueries from LGF readers to my site.

It is possible that three - maybe even four questions could be posted withoout your right of self-expression being erased by a ban hammer.

Welcome!

246 I'm sorry, Charles has been an obvious case for years.

Next, use your amazing powers of observation to notice how Allah acts when Michelle is on a show or not.

247 uhmm morons, Ace just posted an update. It seems Van Jones is saying he did sign the petition, he just didn't look at it closely. 

248 The way I see it, Johnson is simply AllahPundit without having Michelle Malkin giving him his paycheck to keep him somewhat in line. I'd bet anyone that if AllahPundit were to leave HotAir, he'd be Johnson's sidekick in a second.

bingo! best comment i've seen this whole week

249 Protein Wisdom has another libtard democrat mouthing off to his constituents.  Pretty funny that it got filmed since this congresscritter "banned" them from his town hall meeting!

250 RE: my last comment

and don't forget their blind love for evolution praising and religion bashing

251 Please come too lgf.2. I got some shit i wanna tell ya bout...like drivin truck. i know all bout drivin truck, and BOOGERS!

252 Yup, that was Buckhead. Of  course Chuckie, being the typical Hollywood phony grabbed the glory and took all the credit with his little MS Word gif

Posted by: kbdabear at September 03, 2009 11:07

What he did do was type in the text into MS Word and come up with something that kinda-sorta looked looked like Rather's shiite. Beyond that, he was walked through it by his posters on how to make it match (go back to that days post of LGF and run through the posts).

253 so charles defends jones the truther therefore charles is a truther!

254 Look, whatever. I don't really have any interest in discussing Charles Johnson. I have no personal grudge against him

Welp, guess Ace's name is now added to "The List". Good luck commenting at LGF's ever again Ace.

255 "Didn't read what he was signing"???

Sounds like the typical Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac home loan applicant this past decade!

256 47 It would appear the LGF has finally jumped the shark.  Kinda sad.

LGF not only jumped the shark but bent it over and fucked it up the ass until it screamed uncle.

257 F*ck Charles Johnson. Nice blog code though. Pixy Misa could learn volumes (volumes I tell you!) from LGF's site. Anyone notice Google pimping HuffPo on the search page today? Can't say we're winning the web war folks... Anyways, keep it up Ace, and find a blog host that doesn't present your ideas to the world looking like hobo's 3 year old skeevy boxers... Show some pride, or someone step the hell up and upgrade this ugly, half-assed sheot!

258 NICE. All my line breaks were stripped. QUALITY!

259

I'd bet anyone that if AllahPundit were to leave HotAir, he'd be Johnson's sidekick in a second.

AP would never sell me out. Never. I hope. Twitter me, AP. We need to talk.

260

The most important question:

Why the would the folks at 911truth.org, an obstensibly left-wing venture, knowingly lie about an Obama official?

261 just logged in over at my old lgf account (never was good enough to be banned, just got bored with the site) and realized that other posters can "see" who downdings their comments.

That's some Big Brother type sh*t there. Yeah, glad I lost interest.

262 The story is interesting. Some of the comments are. The fake blog names and associated comments make the thread pretty boring. Juvenile. Kinda of a useless dull unwitting masturbatory fantasy.

263 Van Jones? I loved him in "Caine Mutiny"

264

I don't believe Charles Johnson and Reality have ever had the pleasure of meeting each other.  The child invents his own imagined reality like a frail soap bubble and then protects it by ostracizing those who threaten to pop it with facts.  His liberal core forbids him from criticizing anyone who is black--Obama or Van Jones--for fear that the Kos Kids or his Californian or Hawiian liberal musician friends will cast him as a racist.  Knowing the saga of LGF and the human trainwreck that is Charles Johnson leaves one with a sense of sadness, of pathetic tragedy.  Or a sense that the prick is an self-absorbed, paranoid, obnoxious asshole with a thin skin.

If you aren't familiar with this infamous RINO, watch this for a brief primer:

http://tinyurl.com/lcfdwx

265 I feel the same way about Charles Johnson that I feel about Andrew Sullivan -- Remind me again, why I am interested in what he has to say? Our side is so much more interested in what he has to say than anyone else in the world.

266 Fairly sure teh masses read this blog. Where is the responce? Lizzard crap.Nothing?

267 Anyone notice Google pimping HuffPo on the search page today? Can't say we're winning the web war folks

Shows you what Arianna can do when she does what it takes to get some rich guys to hand her 25 million in venture funding. Ace might not be able or willing to do the same

268 I don't believe Charles Johnson and Reality have ever had the pleasure of meeting each other. 

269 That's why I speak in music.

270 OT:  Highly recommended:  Stephen Kruiser on RFCRadio.com, and also on podcast via iTunes  Hysterical and smart in an AOSHQ kind of way.

271 Why am I not surprised?

272 And as an ABC commenter pointed out, Van Jones was so important and on everybody's radar screen in 2004 that the Truthers decided to forge his name on their petition. That's really believable, isn't it?

I still have my Van Jones bobble head from 2004.

273 @ vai2112,
What do you mean, see who's downloading your comment?

IR dum, not lizard smrts.

274 I still have my Van Jones bobble head from 2004.

I think HSN had a Van Jones Chia Pet

275 Heh, I just got blocked for voting down the Van Jones article. 

I cried.  Oh wait, no I didn't.  I'm surprised I lasted this long.

-J

276 I'd bet anyone that if AllahPundit were to leave HotAir, he'd be Johnson's sidekick life partner and buttboy in a second.

FIFY

277

Everyone really should take the time to go over to LGF and read the comments.  Someone disagrees and the LGF ants come out of the woodwork degrading anyone who doesn't agree.  Used to be a nice place but not anymore.  Now its Glenn Beck and creationist bashing all the time.

Politely disagree and "poof" you're banned.  Trust me, I know.

The "centrists" as they like to be called spent years bashing the Dems when Bush was in office and now they're bashing the Republicans when the Dems are in office.  They had their shot with McCain and they lost. Their "centrist" moment is over. They just don't know it yet.

 

 

278 254  Welp, guess Ace's name is now added to "The List". Good luck commenting at LGF's ever again Ace.

Posted by: pajama momma

I believe AoSHQ was banned from LGF back in spring, joining the ranks of Atlas Shrugs, Jihad Watch, Gates of Vienna, Hot Air, Michelle Malkin, Glenn Beck, reality, facts, reason, history, objective thought...

279

Ok so I went to the Van Jones thread on LGF just to make sure... and those people the post there are the stupidest fucking people on earth, bar none.

Don't go.  You'll be dumber for having done so. I'm going to read some grad school math texts now to try to recoup some lost IQ points.

280 183 Um Ace, with all due respect but didn't you link to an article where CJ was interviewed where he talked about being a conservative?  You might want to go back through you posts concering LGF over the past year and double check, I'm almost certain he called himself conservative.

So? Obama spent 2 years calling himself a moderate and look what happened.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 03, 2009 11:00 PM (9Lm5R)

Well my point was that ace was wrong in his "well to be fair Johnson never claimed to be conservative" stance.  So he was giving him some of a pass.  I don't think he deserves that pass because I think he had claimed at some point to be a conservative.  It may be as someone mentioned his pushing for the site to win the best conservative blog award.  Which would be in my opinion his claiming to be a conservative, thus nullifying ace's yeah but pass for him.

281 @jimmuy;

lgf has a comment rating system for the members. you can actually see who is updinging (+) or downdinging (-) your comments; in essence this allows people to call out the people that either agree or disagree with what your wrote; Creepy thought police territory IMO.

282

Several months ago, I was watching the comments on lgf during a new thread and CJ appearantly forgot to put away his sock puppet.  I didn't realize it until I refreshed and a post by mandy manners was suddenly by 'cj'... guess he figured nobody had seen it yet.  HAHAHA

 

This would explain how a conservative anti jihad blog turned daily kos within months..... along with all the 'users' ...

283 The way I see it, Johnson is simply AllahPundit without having Michelle Malkin giving him his paycheck to keep him somewhat in line. I'd bet anyone that if AllahPundit were to leave HotAir, he'd be Johnson's sidekick in a second.

Posted by: Michael in MI

I agree explicitly.  I stopped reading HA on 3-July-2009.  I've seen a few right-wing bloggers go "Chuck Johnson" including the Hot Air misogynists and, unfortunately, someone here at AofSHQ.  If you can guess who I'm talking about then I've proven my point.

284 Aww, crap.  He ain't gonna show.

285 Never really read LGF unless it was linked, but I beleive

Also, I don't believe Johnson did anything other than post what some of his commenters sent him.

to be true. In fact I believe it was one of his readers that tweaked the levels in photoshop to show the crumpled up marks to make it look, I don't know, Old? for the photocopy and all he did was make an animated gif of the so-called memo and a straight Word doc. Did he call the Texas Kinkos?


He's always been a odd bird in my book and I thought he was kinda a RW Atrios. Open thread. One word post. Open thread. Two word post. Open thread.

286 CJ does run a technically advanced site. One feature I really like is the automatic appending of new comments to his threads. It is a feature I would hope that AoS would incorporate.

287 Allah is going hard on Van Jones - give him that. Allah is alright.

288 So, was LGF ever what he said he was?  Or was that all fluff to be noticed until the day his true "king" came to power?

289 Several months ago, I was watching the comments on lgf during a new thread and CJ appearantly forgot to put away his sock puppet. I didn't realize it until I refreshed and a post by mandy manners was suddenly by 'cj'... guess he figured nobody had seen it yet. HAHAHA


Oh man.

290 Charles Johnson is a petty tyrant.  No wonder he likes Obama.

291 Ok so I went to the Van Jones thread on LGF just to make sure... and those people the post there are the stupidest fucking people on earth, bar none.

just checked it out and one word...wow. "lizards"?  "creationist conspiracy"? "wingnuts"? I'm new to blogging (a year now), but i've always heard about this turncoat. scary thing is, it looks like what HotAir could become if only left to LOLpundit

292 I like this site the way it is.

I hate "Change".

293 You know what?  I've seen LGF.  But.  I've never read a thing there.  Nothing.  Didn't feel the urge.

294 CJ does run a technically advanced site.

You will all stand in awe when I release Ban-O-Matic ® 2.0 !!!

295

CJ's logic is twisted this way and that on this issue. He is sayng that truthers are liars, fair enough. So to believe them is a mortal sin.........

Alex Jones lies about many things, with regards to 9/11 "truth"

Bot the one thing he says that I take as irrefutable, gospel truth, is that he is a truther. I tend to believe him on that count.

As someone said at CJ's (before they in all likelyhood, got banned) Trutherism is almost a badge of honor with these people.

296 Posted by: buzzion at September 04, 2009 12:02 AM

My take is that Johnson claimed to be a "conservative" in the same way that RINO Republicans claim to be "conservative" come campaign season: all bark, no bite.

He claimed to be a conservative for so long, because it was getting him famous. He was invited for TV interviews, getting lots more blog hits -- which was probably bringing him in money -- and he got on the PajamasMedia thing, which was more money. I think he hid his ideology in order to bring in the paycheck. But, it finally got too much for him, so he finally took off the mask and just revealed what he has always been: rabidly anti-religion, specifically anti-Christian, rabidly anti-social conservative and a far Left liberal.

297 So.  I don't get the, um, statements about it being good at one time.  Was it?

298 CJ does run a technically advanced site.

I guess that's ok if you like to watch Chuckie's tricks with the bells and whistles. As far as content, he posts 3 to 4 threads a day with only a paragraph or two of snark commentary. On a really busy day he'll post pictures of his lawn sprinkler head, deraileur, or a really awesome pic of a tanker on Santa Monica Bay that's 4 miles out.

AoSHQ still has that Olde Style Home Baked Goodness

299 Tango9:

And what is the best is how the remaining bootlickers over there strut around as though they are the smartest critters on Teh Innertubes.

I had to go and masturbate to some donkey pr0n to get the synapses in my brain working again after reading some of the recent "smart" comments over there.

300 Meh. I used to like the site, but they spend too much time banging on right wingers now. even as we dangle on the precipice of total collectivism.

301 So the sun finally sets on LGF. When Ace turns his back, that's a bad sign for the atheist God-hating God-botherer-hating bicyclist.

But, but, Charles Johnson of the tiny, tiny penis still has a friend in Dr. Glen "Pajamas" Media "Instapundit" Reynolds, right? So there's no real way he's gonna find himself flushed away. Doesn't he still own a good part of Pajamas Media? Anyone?

I get these Old Blogger Ghods mixed up sometimes. Allahpundit, fer'instance, I once thought was one of the Gleen's sockpuppets.  And Patterico, he of the 'good man' nonsense, I had crossed up with the Balloon Juice fellow. Who once, I believe, rode a bicycle.

It's all so confusing.

302 Ace:

Instead of de-linking LGF, why not redirect it to some ghey pr0n? That would be funnier.

303

 I don't get the, um, statements about it being good at one time.  Was it?

It was a good anti-jihadi site, I'd say. Not so good as a conservative issues blog. That reflected CJ's own background as (at the time) an anti-jihadi liberal.

304 rdbrewer

all the people that made it good are banned and over at thecoffeeshop which has the "lounge"

305 Serr8d, your steps are too broad.

306 How does an anti-jihad and jewish protecting blogger crawl into bed with the ultimate jew haters? Can't figure that one out...or is it just the self-loathing?

307 What's the coffeeshop which has the lounge?

308 From Wikipedia:

In early 2007, Johnson described the theory of global warming as "the international left’s newest article of blind faith" based on the documentary "The Great Global Warming Swindle"; he also "recommends Michael Crichton’s book State of Fear". By April 2009 he had rejected that documentary as "dishonest" and now supports that warming is anthropogenic.

that pretty much tells you all you need to know about CJ

309 Why wasn't I invited?

310 "I stopped reading HA on 3-July-2009. I've seen a few right-wing bloggers go "Chuck Johnson" including the Hot Air misogynists and, unfortunately, someone here at AofSHQ."

Posted by: Crusty at September 04, 2009 12:08 AM

That is the day I stopped reading HotAir as well. I'm sure you know why, as it was probably the same reason you stopped as well.

It had been a daily read. I made sure I read each and every post they made over there each day, passing on many in links on Facebook, passing on many in links in e-mail to friends/family and commenting on many of the threads when I had the time. No longer. July 3rd, after I came here in AoSHQ and commenters were talking about what crap they were spewing over there about Palin, that was the last straw for me. I was already getting fed up with the place based on Ed's squishiness and AllahPundit's condescending, bloghit-whoring prickitude (which I didn't even find out was worse than I realized until people started posting what he was saying on his Twitter account. Made me realize my instincts about his condescending prickitude were spot-on), so I had stopped commenting and reading comment threads and simply read the posts. But their behavior on July 3rd was it.

I go back there now and then when I see someone post a link to a good post by someone in the "Greenroom" or if someone here suggests a decent post there. But that's it. Now AoSHQ and Gateway Pundit are my main sources of info, along with American Thinker, Malkin, Power Line and Sweetness and Light along with listening to Rush and reading his show prep resources from his website.

I have had my vehement disagreements with Ace on things here, as well as some of his co-blog authors. But what keeps me here through all that are the amazing commenters here. Plus it seems that Ace isn't really a condescending prick like AllahPundit, he just gets that way when he's pissed off about people taking him to task. Or he's just better at hiding his prickitude until he gets angry. He's kinda like the Incredible Hulk. Better not make him angry! heh

Seriously, even when I vehemently disagree with Ace and some of his co-blog authors on some issues, I don't get the same vibe from them as I get from Johnson and AllahPundit. I think someone summarized it pretty well up-thread when talking about the atheists/agnostics who are 'moderate' on the whole religion/Christianity thing (ace and others here) and those like Johnson and AllahPundit who are not 'moderate' but have an actual hatred for God and religion and Christianity and take that and like to antagonize anyone who does not share their hatred. The people here, whether believers or not, at least show respect for religion and believers, even when not always in agreement.

Plus, in my experience, the commenters here are the best on the right-of-center blogosphere, bar none.

311 Just burned my last account over CJs place. I feel purified.

312 oooohh...Michelle Malkin finds this from nutroots nation last month -- Valerie Jarret, Obama's right hand mama

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Lead Story
Van Jones, Valerie Jarrett, Barack Obama & do-it-yourself vetting
By Michelle Malkin • September 3, 2009 11:24 PM
Indefatigable blogger Jim Hoft at Gateway Pundit dug up the 9/11 Truther record of Green Jobs czar Van Jones — and his research spread across talk radio, the Internet, and to the Glenn Beck show tonight.
A slew of bloggers, independent citizen journalists, and conservative activists have done the heavy lifting in exposing Jones’s inflammatory statements and radical ties over the last year — work that only conservative talk radio and Fox News have covered with due diligence. NakedEmperorNews/The BCast earlier today unearthed video of Jones ranting about Marxist “revolution” away from “gray capitalism”– also disseminated across Twitter, talk radio, and Fox News. The open-source “Army of Davids,” as blog pioneer Glenn Reynolds so aptly described it, is doing the job Obama didn’t want Congress to do.
Tonight, the White House is in full denial mode. ABC News reports:
A top environmental official of the Obama administration issued a statement Thursday apologizing for past incendiary statement and denying that he ever agreed with a 2004 petition on which his name appears, a petition calling for congressional hearings and an investigation by the New York Attorney General into “evidence that suggests high-level government officials may have deliberately allowed the September 11th attacks to occur.”
Van Jones, the Special Advisor for Green Jobs at the White House Council on Environmental Quality, is Number 46 of the petitioners from the so-called “Truther” movement which suggests that people in the administration of President George W. Bush “may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war.”
In a statement issued Thursday evening Jones said of “the petition that was circulated today, I do not agree with this statement and it certainly does not reflect my views now or ever.”
He did not explain how his name came to be on the petition.
Maybe a unicorn, Van’s favorite mythical creature, put it there?
Allahpundit writes, “Note well: He doesn’t deny that he signed it. He denies that he agrees with it. Which means, I guess, that he’s asking us to create a new standard for public officials by which documents that bear their signature should no longer be used against them.”
And the Washington Times reports that the Truthers assert that no one’s name was put on their conspiratorial petition without his/her permission.
Here is the key — and it is highlights a leitmotif that runs through my czar, cabinet, and nominee withdrawal chapters of Culture of Corruption: Obama czardom is the deliberate end-run around transparency. Van Jones did not just accidentally slip through the cracks of the Obama vetters. They knew what he espoused before they installed him.
Take it from Obama’s own political godmother Michelle and Barack’s consigliere and Chicago powerbroker Valerie Jarrett took full credit at the nuttroots dKos blogger conference last month (August 15, 2009) for recruiting him and closely following his career:

JARRETT:. You guys know Van Jones? [Applause. Moderator injects: "This is his house apparently."]

JARRETT: Oooh. Van Jones, alright! So, Van Jones. We were so delighted to be able to recruit him into the White House. We were watching him, uh, really, he’s not that old, for as long as he’s been active out in Oakland. And all the creative ideas he has. And so now, we have captured that. And we have all that energy in the White House.

313 crap. only meant to copy last 2 paragraphs. sorry.

314

Meg Whitman who's running for Governor of California as a RINO thinks Van Jones is marvelous.

http://tinyurl.com/lykw89

315 Really sad, LGF gave us Zombie. I found lots of Israeli bloggers from there. Very sad.

316 @ 310

good comment man. i stopped reading HotAir after Allah basically had all of his followers on there go full blown attack on me for disagreeing w/ his predicted 2008 map. plus i can't take the religion bashing or Ed's ever-growing squishiness

317 @ 314

it's California man, just let it destroy itself so we can pick up all the pieces and make it red for us again. it's happen before w/ former blue states, it'll happen again (the racist south is one good example, which destroyed itself w/ the democrat's racist power there for over 100 years until we picked up all the pieces and now most of those states are solid red)

318

The enemy of your enemy is your enemey's enemy. Nothing more.

Think CJ. People keep thinking they've been betrayed when they were only situational allies. Watch your ass when a particular battle is done.

319 "Allah is going hard on Van Jones - give him that. Allah is alright."

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 04, 2009 12:13 AM

He's alright on some research. But I don't trust him at all on anything, especially after he was exposed as a prick on Twitter.

Also, back during the campaign, he was very reluctant to call out Obama as a radical and racist. He was falling for his BS too, despite all the evidence that had been gathered. It wasn't until Obama's 'race speech' that AllahPundit finally started to wake the hell up about the guy. But just like his stupid crush on Meghan McCain, he went out of his way to try to apologize for Obama's radicalism and try to debunk it -- all the while going full bore smearing Sarah Palin and anyone who liked her.

Also, all during the past 2 years or so, he has not hidden his utter disdain for Christianity and Christians. Over the past year, whenever his political analysis talent was not carrying him, he would simply bring out an atheist thread to whore for blog hits and comments. That and Sarah Palin or Rush bashing threads seemed to give him the Chris Matthews feeling. And he seems to really enjoy being a condescending prick to his readers.

But really, as I said, I don't trust him at all. I truly do believe that if he were let loose from Malkin's reigns, we would see the true unfiltered AllahPundit come out and he would be closer to Charles Johnson and LGF than Ace of Spades. I fully believe the he is toeing the Malkin party line on many issues due to her providing his paycheck. In many ways, I think he is in the same position now as Johnson was in a year or so ago... pretending to be Conservative in order to bring in the money.

320 Chuck.  Come over.  Let's par-tay!

321 Hmm, if Ace is the principal, do i need to wear my catholic girls high school uniform while i post here?

322 What happened at HA on 7/3/09? I still read HA for the posts, but hardly ever dip into the comments. Did I miss something?

323 320:

You know that CJ and his inner inner circle won't dare venture into a land where they aren't protected by the BanHammer to take somebody on.

324 Also, all during the past 2 years or so, he has not hidden his utter disdain for Christianity and Christians.

the one that pissed me off the most was the blog on that "Ida" creature that supposedly was the missing link. He talked about celebrating w/ Charles Johnson, and treated the story as absolute theory for his atheist beliefs, yet no where on the blog (as was mentioned on this blog), did the point of all the doubts about "Ida" being the missing link were shown. So much for Ed, who claims to be a good christian, having the balls to fight back on that one. Don't forget, Allah likes to post on ED's blog postings too, poisoning them w/ his rhetoric. It's a wonder when Ed posts personal posts asking for prayers that Allah doesn't but in w/ a rude comment about his atheists beliefs.

325 as absolute theory proof

fixed my post

326

LGF gave you Zombie, past-tense. Zombie's getting attacked by some of the more prominent lizards over her claim to personal knowledge of Van Jones trutherism.

We'll see what happens to her.

I don't agree with all things Zombie but I would never doubt her integrity.

327 315 Really sad, LGF gave us Zombie. I found lots of Israeli bloggers from there. Very sad.

Posted by: AFlyingSquirrel at September 04, 2009 12:49 AM (ZfRY6)

Last I checked, the lizards were throwing Zombie under the bus on the Van Jones thread.  They're working their way up to declaring Z an enemy of their cult.

328

My LGF account just got blocked from the Van Jones thread.  I actually laughed when I noticed.  It's sad, that CJ will defend Van Jones.  He's implied that Van Jones was lied to by the truthers, therefore he's not at fault for signing the petition.  He ignores that it's now politically convenient for Van Jones to not have those feelings anymore.  He claims theWashington Times is lying when they say that Van Jones has apologized for signing the petition. 

I like that someone who preaches that the Republican party needs to be a big tent party sure likes to boot people off of his blog.

329 Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 04, 2009 12:45 AM

Wow. Thanks for the tip to Malkin's post. I've been here catching up reading comments for the past hour or so and hadn't gone over there since earlier this evening. Pretty devastating stuff if that would just get out in the mainstream.

330 My take: A blog is not a democracy, it's a dictatorship (or sometimes an oligarchy) benevolent or otherwise. My occasional contributions at LGF came to an end when the resident despot presumably (I haven't bothered to confirm) took exception to my suggestion that his pimping of climate change wasn't a lot different in character from the fact-free nonsense of the Discovery Institute, etc. I think I've said before that Charles is more in the Chris Hitchens principled-liberal oeuvre. There's good and bad to that, one ill element is selective blindness regarding racism.

331

It's sad, really.  LGF used to be one of my go-to sites for...well, many many things.  It's where I first encountered folks who actually thought like I thought, and wrote well, and were unafraid to state a short question about their role in the future.  Please state short question.

Goodbye to all that.

332 326-327,

Really, why doesn't that surprise me. I'm sorry I just gave CJ too much credit. Zombie came about on all its own.

333 Thanks Ace for exposing Charles Johnson for the Obama supporter that I've long suspected him to be.

334 #328... 2549: I've found that CJ obsessively scours the internet for references to himself or LGF and takes notes, so don't be surprised if he confronts you for your insolence. lol.

335 305 Serr8d, your steps are too broad.

Not really. You just have to take the leap.

336 321 Hmm, if Ace is the principal, do i need to wear my catholic girls high school uniform while i post here? Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 04, 2009 12:54 AM

Uh, that's how accidental lesbian pron got started

337 Damn, CJ will not accept that Van Jones is a truther. He could have a damn video with Jones sigining the petition, swearing an oath as a truther, and going on freaking Oprah saying he is a truther, CJ would still defend him

Another thing, who the hell cares about a jazz guitarist. I mean a jazz guitarist. That's about as relevant as a xylophone player in Metallica.

338 334 #328... 2549: I've found that CJ obsessively scours the internet for references to himself or LG F and takes notes, so don't be surprised if he confronts you for your insolence. lol.

That's why we use anagrams and other tricks. His flying monkeys still find them but it makes for that much more work for L  G F

339 "What happened at HA on 7/3/09? I still read HA for the posts, but hardly ever dip into the comments. Did I miss something?"

Posted by: wherestherum at September 04, 2009 12:58 AM

In my opinion, both AllahPundit and Ed completely unfairly smeared and attacked Sarah Palin over her decision to resign as Governor. I vehemently disagreed (BIG understatement) with Ace for doing the same thing that day with him taking a whole 10 seconds to come up with the brilliant political analysis "she's done".

Had Ace and his co-blog authors here been as much of a prick as AllahPundit has been over the past year+, I probably would have given up this site too. But, as I said before, they don't seem to be condescending pricks by nature, but simply get that way when they feel unfairly criticized. Plus, the commenters here are fantastic. And when I saw many of the commenters sharing my digust with ace's 10-second "analysis", I knew I could hang around in good company.

So, nothing BIG happened on July 3rd, it is just a memorable date, since it was the day Palin resigned, so easy to remember.

For me, the reason I left for good is that I just can't trust either of them -- AllahPundit or Ed -- anymore. I don't trust their integrity and I don't trust their devotion to standing up for conservatism. Lack of support for Sarah Palin is not the litmus test, it was just the last straw in a long line of things from those two where I lost respect for them.

I came here after a link from HotAir I think about 2 years ago or so. I immediately liked the place, because it was more SouthPark Conservative, in your face, no holds barred, no giving into PC crap style that I liked. Ed is too squishy for me and AllahPundit is a prick who I don't think cares for conservatism so much as he cares for whoring for blog hits. This place quickly became home, due to the bloggers and the commenters. As such, when the whole tsunami over Palin's resignation happened, it was easy to leave a place I was growing tired of anyway while hanging onto this place and cutting ace and co some slack for what I felt was being completely unfair to Palin, a politician who has so far given us absolutely no reason to fail to support her (has a history of integrity, being true to conservative principles, strong family life, reforming government, opposing corruption, success in getting things done in government which she sets out to do, standing up to the mass media and calling them out on their BS, fighting back against her opponents, etc... as opposed to everyone else we throw our support around who have no where near the solid conservative credentials, though stronger on experience, she has... Romney, Giuliani, Huckabee, McCain, Jindal... we bend over backwards to support them despite their many, many faults, yet some were sticking a knife into a politician who didn't have any of their faults, but resigned from a governorship for the benefit of her State. I just can't go to political war with people who are that lame and fickle.)

340 I wanna be around, to pick up the traffic, when LGF bans, your ass

341 340 I wanna be around, to pick up the traffic, when LGF bans, your ass

Posted by: Ace Bennett at September 04, 2009 01:25 AM

I Wanna Be Around

342 Posted by: YRM at September 04, 2009 01:02 AM

Geez, there are so many examples of AllahPundit pissing me off with his prickitude that I can't even nail it down to one that pissed me off the most. It was just a growing trend with him. And yeah, it's interesting how it's just hunky dorey for AllahPundit to attack Christians and Christianity there, but if anyone were to attack atheists or atheism, AllahPundit would use that to call Christians hypocrites. And Ed never would defend Christianity to AllahPundit either. I think that's part of his squishiness. That's why I liked Bryan Preston much better. I don't remember him taking AllahPundit's crap when it came to religion and Christianity. He at least had the sack to take on AllahPundit. Ed just won't defend himself.

343 "I don't agree with all things Zombie but I would never doubt her integrity."

Posted by: David Ross at September 04, 2009 01:03 AM

So it is proven that zombie is a female? Last I was at LGF (which was 2006 or 2007 or so), Johnson was still keeping zombie's sex anonymous so as to protect the anonymity for the sake of infiltrating the protests and not give away the identity. I always suspected zombie was female though. Writing style and just some of the phrases used and comments made sometimes.

Zombie seems to be a social liberal and anti-religion as well, but seems to be 'moderate' about it and not antagonistic like Johnson and AllahPundit.

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345

CFnJ is weapons grade crazy people!  He has banned nearly 1000 people and that's just the ones I know about.  He admitted that to stalking other blogs comment sections when he said that posting on another blog with your same nic will get you banned "immediately". he's a loooonatic!

 

 

Ooh, I'm on the list! Yess!!! I finally get my 15 seconds.

346 Notice that removed the to frighten terrorist from his banner.

347 "Hmm, if Ace is the principal, do i need to wear my catholic girls high school uniform while i post here?"

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 04, 2009 12:54 AM

Ummm, I went to Catholic School (grammar school and High School) and I very much remember those uniforms.

So I enthusiastically vote YES on mandatory Catholic school girls uniforms for all moronettes.

Oh, and pictures too. Gotta have pictures.

Man, what was this thread about again? My mind has gone to mush...

348

I claim no special knowledge of the crease in Zombie's pants or lack thereof... I'm just guessing.

Zombie is social-conservative on drugs (anti-legalisation); there was a thread on that once. (I'm a libertarian on that one.)

349

BTW,

Allah is awsome. He's like Eyore, a total downer, but in the end he'll always come around to the right side.

350 I'm putting everybody on the intertubes on my enema list.
That will show'em Chuckie.

351 "Zombie is social-conservative on drugs (anti-legalisation); there was a thread on that once. (I'm a libertarian on that one.)"

Posted by: David Ross at September 04, 2009 01:41 AM

Well, I know she is pro-homosexual marriage/'rights' and pro-abortion/'choice'. I remember in her reporting on that homosexual pride sex fest thing they have out in SanFran that she was expressing disappointment for her reporting backing up the claims of social conservative groups. Also, in her reporting about the Science Czar, she admitted to being pro-'choice'.

She also has admitted that she was a big peace hippy in her pre-9/11 days and used to go to all the protests as a believer until after 9/11 she realized that the people going to these things were Communists and pro-terrorist and anti-America, things which she did not agree with at all. She had her eyes opened about the true motivations behind the movement and from then on became the 'zombie' we all know and love for infiltrating and exposing their protests.

352 Why does no one ever get that 80-90% of the time, Allah's just being a smartass? Hotair commenters, particularly the religious ones, are a bunch of simpleminded, humorless scolds. Good God, the dude's got you morons barking like trained seals. No mind that brought us the Yasser Arafat photoshops could EVER be taken as seriously as the Allah-gripers do. And I say all this as an imperfectly devout Catholic.

353

WTF happened to CJ and LGF? Used to be a great site.

I mean, "pod people" can't even explain this one away. 

He MIGHT get on one or two legit story posts (directly noting the subject/person involved is a {gasp!} "Creationist" so should be completely discounted and disqualified I guess ...)  ... but then  the rest is POS fillers ... fuzzy little critters that might be his offspring, I dunno ... and obscure music videos ... and the occasional mention of some new techno gadget.

It's like 'why bother, dude? Just head on out to the Pigly Wiggly and get a big bag of pork rinds and a 12 pack and turn on Sponge Bob' ... ya know?

354 @ 352

there's a difference is smart-ass postings and constant bashing of any one who believes in the intelligent design theory or constant bashing of big conservative names like Palin, Rush, Beck, & such. we're not talking a couple disagreements here and there like we sometimes have w/ Ace, we're talking all out war on these subjects constantly.

PS: simple minded? i don't think so. we just don't subject ourselves to a theory w/ so many holes and denials and take crap from some weasel who twitters condescending posts and talks about his love for Meghan McCain of all people

355 Don't forget that it was the programmer expert Joseph Newcomer who in a television interview completely destroyed the possibility of the font being in existence in the 70's.

356 A bridge too far? hmm United Artists too bunch a homo's. No wonder it never appealed to me.

357

I claim no special knowledge of the crease in Zombie's pants or lack thereof... I'm just guessing.

Well, if Zombie is female, at least it wouldn't be ghey. IYNWIMAITYD.

358 hmmmmm...this was way back in 2002

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359 @ 358

dude post that crap to anyone you can

360 I'm afraid CJ and the LGF'ers jumped the shark a long time ago.  As far as I can tell it's pretty much come to this....

361 YRM,

Allah started out at HA much more mild mannered about everything, and because half the commenters were thick as bricks (humorless ones at that) he gave up.  I watched the change. 

Beck's not my cup of tea, either.  Nor is Rush's show, largely because its about 50% ads or station breaks.  It's funny how you guys are bashing allah on a thread about the righteous looney that CJ has become.  I clearly recall AP receiving a few dozen threats to get him canned for daring to suggest that some particular conservative was acting in a way that would have bad long-term consequences.  Intolerance and demands for absolute purity don't look any better on righties than lefties.

It doesn't matter, though and I don't care.  It's the intertubes, and AP can handle his own shit.  Though I have to say it's kinda sad, seeing LGF finally die.  I had commented there from early 2002 to about 2005 or 6 (different bit similar nic), and then just stopped (shortly after registration).  I wend back a few months ago to see what everyone was talking about with teh creationist jihad, and tried to comment, only to find out that my account had been shitcanned.  I didn't even get the satisfaction of a banning.  Oh, well.

All things must pass away.

362 Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 04, 2009 02:17 AM

Awesome find. Send that to Gateway Pundit as Fox News was referencing Jim Hoft's work there for their reports. Also Malkin and Ace here too. This should be the #1 story tomorrow morning. Again, GREAT find.

363 @ 361

Beck is not my cup of tea either, and i find Rush vastly overrated, but i still stand by what i say. We bring Allah up, because he reminds us of CJ in some ways, that's why. thus it's relevant to this thread.

364 well i'm out. 25% asleep, 25% awake, 25% excited to see my gf tomorrow, and 25% nervous because i'm meeting her friends for the first time, i'll call it a day. sure is fun when i get to post on here, don't get to do it as often as i used to

365 Yeah, by 2003 http://www.truth-now.com were full blown truthers (now it's just a goofy bumper sticker site - same owner I think though). Van Jones was at all kinds of these protest though all over Oakland and San Fran and believe me thurthers are just a drop in the bucket mixed in with all the anti-jew etc. crawling all over those "peace" protests.

Anyway, he'd have to be a moron to not know the crowds he was mingling with and their "views" and then not fully understand what 200 other fellow traveler morons signed their name to. BS all the way.

I actually think anyone who shares space/stage with Medea Benjamin automatically disqualified from public service on the stupidity charge, but that's just me.

366 Same here, not a frequent moron anymore.

Good night and good luck YRM

367 LGF, what can one say, used to be I'd spend all day on a Saturday there, had some really great posters, really liked the posts on the Green helmet guy, the phonyness of the Jihadists. Probably the easiest blog to comment on, very well put together. I watched and read as CJ, slowly at first, and then with lightning speed, sank to a G-D hating hedonistic pos. Then the banning started, sometimes 10 a day. The coward would even delete the comment that got the ban

Someone here said it's sad because he's obviously a sick man. With this I agree. A very gifted code writer, but gone around the bend.

368 Ever heard of a load cell? Basically, I got one down here with me. Every time he reads something that makes me twitch - maybe some suggestion that there aren't thousands of drowning polar bears off Baffin Island - I trigger the ban button. I just wish he'd remember to pull me out before he takes a dump.

369

And another thing, whats with CJ constantly pushing that Kindle shit

Read a book! With paper and ink and a cool looking cover and shit! Man up, you pussy.

 

370 DRM is a tool of Satan. CJ is his minion.

371

Zombie alludes on that thread that she/he has seen Van Jones at truther events, but to elaborate more she may have to out herself. After all the work she did on Holdrer, Ayers, Hamas, they are throwing her under the bus calling her a liar. LGF is pond scum and I hope she distances herself from them.

372 By means of a distance workout, rolex watches
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373

I'm waiting for the motherless bastard to start kissing Osama bin Laden's ass to the applause of his chained slaves. It's his only next logical move.

- proudly banned westtexasjew

374

Madam ex, I think we can even guess the sort of event Zombie saw, thanks to topsecretk9 (the Zombie of AoSHQ, and I mean that as the highest praise).

The morning is given over to an interminable ersatz-Zen "cosmic Ommmm". Then, at noon, the lunch-n-greivance hour. At 1-3 PM, truthers have the floor - with an actual speech with a title and everything. They're also likely the only ones not baked off their skulls on dope. That culminates the scheduled speakers; what follows is the "peace gathering".

Zombie then, as casual observer, chalks up the "peace" event as a truther rally in disguise. The truthers had the main slot and the prepared speech; everyone else was going spoken-word poetry around drum circles, puppets, and bong hits.

375

OMG, that site topsecretk9 is quoting? There's more. SAVE THAT PAGE.

It was an explicit Troofer Afternoon at Oakland:

# Actions exposing the Bush Administration's role in the events of September 11, 2001
Wed Sep 11 4pm Demonstration at the Oakland Federal Building,
12th and Clay St , Downtown Oakland 5:30pm Rally at 12th and Broadway
7pm Bush Did it! Forum and Community Speak Out Uhuru House, 7911 MacArthur Blvd, Oakland

The SF "peace" rally at the same time was set up by the same organisations. You can't tell me anymore that the SF event wasn't a truther event, and that Jones didn't know.

376 All roads lead to Rome。

377 Van Jones Makes The Evening News (his cock holster doesn't get a mention)

http://tinyurl.com/lke22w

Charles has become ridiculous.

378 I cross-posted all this at Gateway, btw. I credited tsk9 with the find.

379 A while back I realized I hadn't checked out LGF in quite some time, so I went over there. Or tried to. Apparently I've been blocked from viewing it. I spent a minute or two trying to figure out why he'd do that, but realized there was no point trying to fathom what goes on in his mind.

So long, Charlie.

380

I don't know what happened to LGF.

That was the first blog I really started to regularly visit after 9/11.

That one and Allah is in the House (Ah memories)>

Now Charles is the crazy uncle of blogs. Completely kooked out.

I'm just waiting for him to go all Andy Sullivan on me or something next.

I'll never comment there again. I still check it, but I need to sift through piles of nirther jokes and evolution lessons to get to anything that I find interesting.

The last time that I posted there I was accused of being a sock puppet!

Ha!

It was during the Russian conflict with Ukraine and the LGF thread was pretty much all in favor of the U.S. to start bombing. I mean after all, we had forces in the region.

Last time I ever try to reason with the zombies. I asked Charles to remove me. Buncha' freaks.

381 Does it really matter? Any time I bother checking out LGF these days half or more of it is just open threads, quotes, or songs from youtube.

382 HIs taste in music is way gay

383 In case anyone's interested, here's the difference between 1.0 and 2.0.

384

Say what you want about Glenn Beck, he has eviscerated Obama and his czars.  Nobody is suing for libel, because it is all true.  Beck supplied video, audio and signed text for every claim he made about Obama...

Beck should not go in any dark alleys, he could come out without a few fingers.

385 dark alleys or pro health care rallys!

386

They've almost all gone off the deep end since Obama's election. Allahpundit is still usually pretty sane, but he's viciously attacked on a regular basis by his own readers.

Guilty.

387 Viciously attacked?

Please.

Allah's anonymous and the attacks, as such, are of the sticks-and-stones variety.  Plus, Allah had the broad, downy shoulder of ace to lean on if times got tough.

Goldstein managed to attract actual craziness, Malkin has as well.  The best that the Left can come up with is Randi Rhodes encountering a rightwing bartender who kept serving her Ketel One Bloody Mary and a fascist sidewalk intent on harming her.


-

388 Johnson jumped the shark ages ago, when he started making some Belgian goose-steppers (Vlaams Belang) the focus of his blog .... then went absolutely batfuck and wrote every other post about Darwinism.

Jeepers, Chuckie, not many people are still fighting the good fight against Leon Degrelle and creationists. 

Give it a rest, willya?

389 388

That's exactly when I stopped going over there.

390

I'm quite shocked after reading that posting about Van Jones over at LGF.  Charles basically accused Zombie of not being reliable, and a number of lefties took that as a cue to attack Zombie.  Nice, for all the work he/she has done over the years in exposing the left.  I never thought I'd ever see the day when Zombie gets attacked on LGF.

Also, why does Charles have that up-ding/down-ding system?  The reason I ask is that it seems as though if you down-ding anyone, you're instantly busted.  If down-dinging is bad, why allow it as an option?

391

Yes. "Buckethead" spotted them as fakes.

Ace, I believe the poster's name was 'Buckhead'.  IIRC, he was from the Atlanta area.

392 I used to read Little Green Footballs then about a year ago Johnson started veering and I dropped it (eventually like a hot potato). Usually these things happen when one meets a younger girl or boy, who poisons the mind.

393

And another thing, whats with CJ constantly pushing that Kindle shit

Read a book! With paper and ink and a cool looking cover and shit! Man up, you pussy.

Posted by: restitutor orbis at September 04, 2009 02:59 AM (HWySf)

Lil Johnson 2.0 only reads books about javascript Ajax functions. The embodiment of Faggotry.

394 I think Charles and Megan McCain should hook up...

Wouldn't that be SWEET?

395

That one and Allah is in the House (Ah memories)>

Now Charles is the crazy uncle of blogs. Completely kooked out.

Sully = Charles = Allah ... just give it time.

396 Charles Johnson's electric mantits just blew a fuse

397

Is this just a ploy to become relevant? 

 

CJ is a hack.  His fame LONG outlived the memo thing.  He's an obsessive troll living in a very dark and lonely world.  No more, no less.

398 Yeah, Charles has become pretty creepy.  I am betting that the little buttons he put in to rate posts and links are actually used to make it easier for him to find the people who need to be banned.  Since he admits stalking people on other sites to see what they are saying about him he has created a system where people tell on themselves to make it easier.  I bet he would install it for Ace if asked nicely.

CJ defended Sotomayor's racist comments and views as well.  He bans people for off-color arguments or language but can't fnd anything wrong with Obama's racist cronies.  The guy really has no principles other than his hatred of those he perceives to be ignorant --- but at the same time a lot of arguments go completely over his head and he ends up banning anyone smarter than he is.  His blog self-selects for stupidity that way.

And yeah, who could have ever thought that Van Jones, an Obama supporter and supposedly former communist would fall for the 9/11 truther stuff.  That would just be soooo out of character for someone bright enough to share Chuck's political views.  It will be interesting to see how he handles two of his little hobby horses (hatred of truthers and love of Obama) jousting with each other. 

399 Wow i never thought i'd see the day CJ throw zombie under the bus what's next banning her or purging her from your faggot website you god damn sawn off oompa loompas wanna make me puke poison

400 you god damn sawn off oompa loompas wanna make me puke poison

BANNED!

401 i like both rush and beck but i still respect people who don't unless they are obots who believe obama is Jesus' halfrican counterpart

402

BANNED!

Oh noez how will i recover from that me so sad btw sharmuta wants to massage your microscopic penis what are you waiting for get back there and let her be your sucky sucky

403

Gateway Pundit found proof that Van Jones was a truther in 2002, two years before the petition that's being discussed was circulated.

As one (soon to be banned) poster at LGF observed:

But the important thing here is that Glenn Beck not be right about anything. That's the Holy Grail. Proceed accordingly.

CJ has become as bad as Kos or Arianna.

404 Kudos. Johnson has betrayed everything that he once stood for, or gave people the impression he stood for. He has fabricated claims about those he has betrayed and come to regard as his enemies out of thin air -- and was believed because of his stature among conservatives. He has finally completely obliterated that stature, more effectively than any of his former Leftist detractors could have done, except among his dwindling number of cultists.

I hope he's at least enjoying the money from whomever has paid him to sell out his principles and defame decent people. One problem is that his defamation stuck, especially when most people weren't aware of just how craven Johnson had become. I hope his former cultists who have left at a more recent date will reconsider the disinformation he fed them earlier, and wake up to how they have been had.

405 Johnson or Johnston? Douchbag either way.

406 I signed up on Little Green Footballs when I was very new to blogging.  I was banned.  I now wear that ban as a badge of honor.

Angry White Dude

407

If somebody already mentioned this, I'm sorry, but I didn't get to this thread until this morning.

So Jones is from Oakland, huh.  Jones?  Jones?  Wasn't there another Jones from that area, or across the bay in San Fran?  Jones?  Oh, yes, Jim Jones and the Kool Aid.  Yeah, that's it.  They went to Giana (sp?) and ended up drinking that Kool Aid to kill everybody.  So, is Jones planning on using same Kool Aid on the local population too?  I imagine he would probably like to, since White People are poisoning minorities.

408

Here's another choice post from LGF:

Hey - Sorry I haven't been here for a while. I've been hanging out at Ace's and just waiting for the right time to issue one last comment over here and get banned.

i think you'll probably get your wish soon, and then you can spend all your time hanging over at Ace's He-Man Wimmin Haterz Club. idiot.

409 Good work on aggregating news on Islamic extremism CJ.
Good work on drawing a line at alliances with European neo-Nazi's like Filip deWinter & his Vlaams Belang party, and saving the right-wing US blogosphere loss of credibility.
Couldn't care less about your opinions on creationism & 'global warming'.
Pity you had to regress to leftist knee-jerk unthinking BS.

410 Maybe it was too many day-long bike rides with Andy Sullivan.


Éand by bike rides, I mean colon-tonguing.

411

Another great catch:

Van Jones was on the editorial board of War Times, a completely freakazoid, moonbat  left wing publication.

412 It's really a pity how the limpwristed conservative crybabies always fall back on blaming the Liberal media instead of blaming themselves for their many screwups.  We Liberals need to blast the wicked fox and freaks propaganda channel for spreading so many lies.  I sure enjoyed Keith Olbermann's comedic spiel on Glenn Henpecked and his commie architecture nonsense, a welcome bit of comedy during a week of no Daily Show or Colbert Report shows.

413 o.u.:

<blockquote>Good work on drawing a line at alliances with European neo-Nazi's like Filip deWinter & his Vlaams Belang party, and saving the right-wing US blogosphere loss of credibility.</blockquote>

This was part of Johnson's disinformation. No one was advocating alliances with neo-Nazis, and Johnson tarred many people and harmed their reputations by claiming otherwise. At issue was whether or not the European groups were actually neo-Nazi at all. Given Johnson's obviously scant affection for truth and accuracy in other areas, I would hope people would go back and reexamine his claims on this one. Pro-Israel neo-Nazis are a strange animal that don't actually exist in the real world, but Johnson put a number over on many, many people.

414

Reading the comments on LGF, CJ is in full on meltdown mode. Even the biggest of boot-lickers over there is against him.

He is the new Andrew Sullivan.

415 He has fabricated claims about those he has betrayed and come to regard as his enemies out of thin air.
-- Robert Spencer

Actually, he was on the right trail about your & Pamela Geller's mendaciousness.

416

At issue was whether or not the European groups were actually neo-Nazi at all. Given Johnson's obviously scant affection for truth and accuracy in other areas, I would hope people would go back and reexamine his claims on this one. Pro-Israel neo-Nazis are a strange animal that don't actually exist in the real world, but Johnson put a number over on many, many people.

Posted by: Robert Spencer at September 04, 2009 10:07 AM (++vzD)

Interesting comment. I always had doubts, mostly because the people at PowerLine didn't find Vlaams Belang particularly offensive -- and I trust their judgment far more than CJ's.

417

I'm dippin' 'em in Tinian's 403 post.

Sooooo refreshing

418

Actually, he was on the right trail about your & Pamela Geller's mendaciousness.

Posted by: o.u. at September 04, 2009 10:11 AM (/LtOs)

Quit trashing Pam. She's got a great rack. Even Ace said so.

419 o.u.

"Actually, he was on the right trail about your & Pamela Geller's mendaciousness."

The evidence is out there for anyone to see. Anything Johnson claims, and anything I claim, or anything Pamela Geller claims, should be checked. Anyone who does that will find out that Johnson was the "mendacious" one. Frequently he put out highly tendentious claims based on half-truths or outright fabrications, and no one over there called him on it because they didn't even bother to check his claims for themselves.

True cult-leader type behavior, and I see that you fell for it.

420

I'm not about to hop on the Spencer-Gellar Rehabilitation Tour Bus either. That bus broke down in Cologne.

421 I always had doubts, mostly because the people at PowerLine didn't find Vlaams Belang particularly offensive

-- Tinian

We all make mistakes, but the facts about deWinter's and Vlaams Belangs' anti-Semitic & white nationalistic roots and nature are solid. I'll post the links if you wish.

422 o.u.:

One example is that he frequently claimed that Pamela Geller and I justified alliances with neo-Nazis on the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" principle. In fact, neither she nor I ever justified or advocated or supported alliances with any neo-Nazis, or racists, or fascists, or anything of the kind. I never subscribed to the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" principle, and actually have argued against it. I don't think she subscribes to it either.

But Goebbels-like, he repeated this so often that the "lizards" began to take it as axiomatic that it must have been what we were saying.

423 @412: actually, I saw Olbermann's comedic schpiel. I could tell what he was tring to do. Trouble is... ALL of Olberdouche's commentary comes across as parody.

BTW, thanks for confirming that CJ and LGF has gone full blown "real" liberal.

Honesty from the Left is rare... And refreshing.

424 I'm going to click on one of those Economist ads and subscribe.

425 "I don't really have any interest in discussing Charles Johnson"

Then, take my advice - don't!

The real news is that Gateway Pundit has proven that the commie was hangin' with troofers just months after September 11, 2001.

426 o.u.

"We all make mistakes, but the facts about deWinter's and Vlaams Belangs' anti-Semitic & white nationalistic roots and nature are solid. I'll post the links if you wish."

Go ahead. But I am not disputing them. You know something else? Robert Byrd's KKK roots and nature is solid.

At issue in reality were 2 things:

1. Can an individual and a party change positions? Or is it forever and must always be what it once was? VB has been the only pro-Israel party in Flanders, and has suffered politically as a result. Is it all a ruse? I suppose it's remotely possible. But antisemitism is very popular in Europe, and not just among Muslim immigrants -- surveys show a rise in it among the native non-Muslim population as well. So you can't sustain the argument that they took this position cynically to gain votes.

2. Am I responsible for everything VB says and does, and ever has said and done, because I was once in a room with Filip Dewinter? Even if Filip Dewinter were the neo-fascist creep that Johnson claims he is, and everything Johnson said about him were true, what does that have to do with me or Pamela Geller?

I once spoke on the same bill with Hillary Clinton. Does that make me a Hillary supporter, or her an anti-jihadist? If Hillary is not forever tarred by association with me, or me with her, then why am I forever tarred by association with Filip Dewinter? I do not work with or support VB, or any other political party anywhere. My positions are the ones I have stated, not those that anyone else has stated. So what about the Hillary analogy? Why am I forever tarred, and Pamela as well, and others, because once Dewinter was present at an event where I spoke? I have asked this question repeatedly, and never gotten any answer from "lizards" or their master.

427

We all make mistakes, but the facts about deWinter's and Vlaams Belangs' anti-Semitic & white nationalistic roots and nature are solid. I'll post the links if you wish.

Posted by: o.u. at September 04, 2009 10:23 AM (/LtOs)

It would be interesting to see stuff actually authored by VB in full context supporting your claims. I really don't know (or care) much about that fringe European political group. What little I do know comes second hand, and if CJ says "a" I'm likely to believe "z".

428 Tinian, so if Johnson says "Jihadists are bad and here's why" (which was the main thrust of his blog) then do you think they must be good?

429 "Robert Byrd's KKK roots and nature is solid. " -Robert Spencer

Yes they are.
The Vlaams Belang's roots are deeply Nazi.
What is your point?

430

Tinian, so if Johnson says "Jihadists are bad and here's why" (which was the main thrust of his blog) then do you think they must be good?

Posted by: o.u. at September 04, 2009 10:53 AM (+1hW/)

Can't you come up with something better than that?

After CJ jumped the shark that's about the only judgment of his that I find myself agreeing with.

It must suck sticking up for CJ.

431

if Johnson says "Jihadists are bad and here's why" (which was the main thrust of his blog)

"was", past tense, is exactly right..

432

The Vlaams Belang's roots are deeply Nazi.

Because Charles Johnson says so? To commies, everybody who is not a commie looks like a Nazi.

433 428: if you are an LGFer, why not just use your Lizard ID and have at it?

434 o.u.

My point was quite clear.

Interesting that you pretend otherwise.

Have your fun, but the truth is increasingly obvious about your master.

435 Charles Johnson = Liberal fascist = Nazi

436

the facts about deWinter's and Vlaams Belangs' anti-Semitic & white nationalistic roots and nature are solid. I'll post the links if you wish.

Please do, I could do with a laugh.

And when you're done with that, post some links on their Nazi roots and nature for extra credit.

437 Tinian, I was just pointing out the idiocy of your statement with a simple factual refutation.

flenser, no, nothing to do with what Charles Johnson said.

438 Can we do a "scientific" study on the relationship between the length of the male ponytail and it's correlation with slowly increasing levels of insanity over a period of time. Maybe if CJ chopped the hippy symbol, his brain would turn back on.

Just an idea

439

nothing to do with what Charles Johnson said.

What, then?

440 flenser, the links offer was made to Tinian before I realized he's a fool.

If you're really interested, give the Stephen Roth Institute in Israel a call. It tracks neo-Nazi and other anti-semitic and racist groups which might be a threat worldwide.

441

If you're really interested, give the Stephen Roth Institute in Israel a call.

I am interested, but not in some "Stephen Roth Institute in Israel". Do you have any actual sources of information or are you just blowing smoke? Because I've done my due dilligence on Vlaams Belang and they look clean. Very clean in fact, a lot more so than your average Europe political party which have multiple former Communists proudly serving in them.

442 Of course, having Communists in your party is not a big little sin in CJ's eyes. Or in o.u's.

443

In defense of Charles Johnson, although he has never said this himself . . .

His odd behavior over the last 18mos. is because Soros has pictures of him (ahem) warmly embracing a sheep. 

444

It tracks neo-Nazi and other anti-semitic and racist groups which might be a threat worldwide.

We have people like that in this country. They call themselves the Southern Povetry Law Center.

445 "I am interested, but not in some "Stephen Roth Institute in Israel". Do you have any actual sources of information or are you just blowing smoke? "

You want actual sources of information - the Stephen Roth Institute is one.

"Because I've done my due dilligence on Vlaams Belang and they look clean. Very clean in fact [..]"

Either you've got the research skills of an infant, or you're lying.

Try looking up my comments in this thread, which contains a few links : http://minx.cc/?post=286171

I also had a thread conversation on My Pet Jawa around the same time.

I'll dig up some of the links for you.

I've only got my mobile at the moment, and it's being charged heavily by the kb, and I'm not particularly willing to spend good money looking up info for someone who is debating in bad faith, I hope this is not the case.


Go and read the conversation I had with 'Travis' on the comments section of AoS on the thread labelled ''

446 At one time, LGF was good at anti-jihad (now leaves that up to Zombie), anti-media falsehoods (Rathergate and various Lebanaon/Hizbollah fauxteaushop), but he's gone off the deep end, blaming Tea Parties on Ron Paul, attacking all town hall protesters as 'sceamers', doing a Captain Ahab on Glenn Beck, and basically focusing the rest of his attention on the Republican party, when the real danger to our country is the left.  If he spent half as much time going after the left as he does the right, he'd balance out (though in his mind, he's thinking he is balanced...)

447 Why does Ace of spades still have Little Green Footballs on its blog roll?

448 I stop and have a look a LGF maybe once a week these days.  I used to look at ut every day, maybe several times a day.  Thing is, I shared (and still do share) many of his opinions on things like birfers and trufers and creationists who would want to shove "intelligent design" into the schools.  But one day I got this "WTF" moment when he posted something I thought was "out there" and after a few more such postings, just stopped coming back as often.

For example, I don't like his crusade against Beck.  I am no giant Beck fan, but hey, obviously he doesn't watch Beck's show because about the only ad that runs there are Fox ads for its own shows and ads for Carbonite, the computer backup company.  So all this crap of advertisers "dropping" Beck is pretty much bogus.

I think he is just trying to stir things up to get more traffic to his site more than anything else.

449 Sorry about redundant final half-sentence.

"Of course, having Communists in your party is not a big little sin in CJ's eyes. Or in o.u's."

Um, ok, fuck you. Another idiot.

450

Charles Johnson, the "Arlen Specter" of the blogosphere has been swinging left for months now..

 

With people like Sharmuta kissing his nethers, no wonder he will impugne and attack long time lizards like Zombie just to protect his liberal talking points.

451

433  eddiebear

Because charles will instantly ban him or her for doing so. He has no room whatsoever for dissent against his opinion.

If you are so blind as to not know this, I suggest you pay more attention.

 

 REAL Lizard  You ought tofind the guts to admit who you are..a solid liberal defender of another solid liberal, Charles "chuckles" Johnson.

452 Hmm ..

Robert Spencer, I'm sorry you willingly appeared at a conference of white nationalists and neo-Nazis, and blew your credibility.

Perhaps you should have listened to those pointing out the obvious, but then, you are what you are.

453

I'm not particularly willing to spend good money looking up info for someone who is debating in bad faith

Ah, the irony.

By the by, what money, good or otherwise, does it take to post a link or do a google search?

A search on "Vlaams Belang Nazi" brings up LGF and some far left European websites as the source of this claim.

I poked around at the "Stephen Roth Institute in Israel", where they have links to the Vlams Blok being banned by the left-wing Belgian establishment for not being left-wing.

454

I'm sorry you willingly appeared at a conference of white nationalists and neo-Nazis

And you think that they are "neo-Nazis" because?

You sure do argue like a lefty.

455

Um, ok, fuck you. Another idiot.

It's a fact that the majority of Europen political parties have former (and sometimes current) Communists in them. This is plainly a matter of indifference at best to you. So your obsession about alleged neo-Nazis seems  .... peculiar.

456 o.u.

"Robert Spencer, I'm sorry you willingly appeared at a conference of white nationalists and neo-Nazis, and blew your credibility."

This is a false statement. I never appeared, willingly or unwillingly, at a conference of white nationalists and neo-Nazis.

Speakers at the conference to which you are referring included Aryeh Eldad, a member of the Knesset; Patrick Sookhdeo, a (non-white) convert from Islam to Christianity; Bat Ye'or, the internationally renowned Jewish historian; Andrew Bostom, an authority on Islamic antisemitism, and so on. And not a single white nationalist or neo-Nazi.

The speaker list is public, so your lies are easily exposed.

I see that Charles Johnson has taught you well.

457 CJ was never a conservative. He's just a leftist who hates Muslims.

Why anyone would bother to go to his website anymore, I don't know. He's betrayed (if not banned) the conservatives, and he's too hawkish for the leftists to accept.

458

I'm going to click on one of those Economist ads and subscribe.

Don't subscribe. It's a leftist rag now too. (Although hit the ad--maybe it gives Ace some cash for doing so.)

Why does Ace of Spades still have Little Green Footballs on its blog roll?
Ace doesn't maintain the blog roll at all. (There are plenty of dead links and ex-sites listed, for example.)

And gee, I can believe Robert Spencer, a trusted, conservative-mainstream blogger of some note or some CJ apologist in a comments section insulting the regulars here. I wonder which I'll support?

And fuck you, too, hobnail. Sucking evangelical atheist cock doesn't make you "cool". At least not at Ace's where the practicing (of different faiths), the lukewarm and the nonreligious don't shit on each other or defend such as "teasing".

459

I tracked down o.u's. links, and they are to (surprise!) the "Stephen Roth Institute in Israel",  where they say things such as

VB head Filip Dewinter has even demonstrated solidarity with the Jewish community and with Israel, especially since the creation of the AEL. This tactic was designed to attract part of the Antwerp Jewish vote during the campaign for the June 2004 regional elections.

Those bastards! Neo-Nazi filth! Politicians appealing to Jewish voters?  Can the gas chambers be far behind? And it gets worse. The Velaams Belang

which has been part of the far right surge in Europe in recent years, along with France's NF and Austria's FPÖ, has moderated its tone considerably on matters related to the Jews and the Holocaust

I'm glad there are people like o.u around to put a stop to this dangerous nonsense!

 

 

 

460 The Stephen Roth Institute for the Study of Antisemitism and Racism, at Tel Aviv University noted the Vlaams Belang's tactical electoral switch to supporting Jews and Israel (by reigning in their Holocaust denial claims and voicing support for Israel) :

http://www.tau.ac.il/Anti-Semitism/asw2004/belgium.htm :

"Political Parties of the Extreme Right
Since its success in the 1991 legislative elections, the Vlaams Blok (VB; now Vlaams Belang − see below), which has been part of the far right surge in Europe in recent years, along with France's NF and Austria's FPÖ, has moderated its tone considerably on matters related to the Jews and the Holocaust (see ASW 2001/2); nevertheless, it still retains ties with small neo-fascist and antisemitic groups, such as Voorpost and Were Di. Moreover, VB head Filip Dewinter has even demonstrated solidarity with the Jewish community and with Israel, especially since the creation of the AEL. This tactic was designed to attract part of the Antwerp Jewish vote during the campaign for the June 2004 regional elections. Although the results of the election demonstrated that the vast majority of Antwerp Jewry was not convinced the VB had undergone a fundamental change, it increased its strength in the Flemish electorate and confirmed its status as the leading political party in the city of Antwerp, with 35 percent of the overall vote. The VB is also the main Flemish political party in the Brussels regional parliament, holding 6 out of the 11 seats held by Flemings. Despite its electoral success, the party is ostracized by all other political organizations. A cordon sanitaire imposed by Belgium’s mainstream parties is aimed at preventing the VB from becoming a governing party, whether on a federal, regional or local level."


http://www.tau.ac.il/Anti-Semitism/asw2007/belgium.html :

"Extreme Right Political Parties

The Vlaams Belang (Flemish Interest − VB) succeeded the Vlaams Blok after the latter was forced to disband in 2004 following a Belgian court’s decision that it was racist and outside the bounds of legal public discourse see (ASW 2004). After toning down some of the Blok’s extremist anti-immigrant and Holocaust denial rhetoric, the VB won significant percentages of the vote in Flanders. Despite its demonstrations of solidarity with the Jewish community since the creation of the AEL and its more moderate tone in relation to the Holocaust and the Jews in general, the VB continues to retain ties with small neo-fascist and antisemitic groups, such as Voorpost, Were Di and the Vlaamse Militanten Orde (VMO). Besides being the leading political party in the city of Antwerp, having gained 35 percent of the overall vote in the 2004 elections, the VB is also the main Flemish political party in the Brussels regional parliament, with 6 out of the 11 seats held by Flemings. The VB is one of the founders of the Identity, Tradition and Sovereignty (ITS), a racist and antisemitic group formed in the European Parliament in January 2007. Other members include the French Front National and Romania's Greater Romania Party, among others."
 

Vlaams Belang's founders were Nazi sympathisers and collaborators. DeWinter has a long history of antisemitism - don't be fooled by his recent about-face. As recently as a few years ago he was still attending white nationalist conferences with attendees like David Duke, Stormfront members and the BNP leader and convicted antisemite Nick Griffin.

Many neo-Nazi groups around Europe have shifted their hateful focus from Jews to Muslims, correctly perceiving the latter's greater general unpopularity. In the UK, the BNP party has done the same, sensing the great electoral opportunity given the main parties' seeming reluctance to address the Islamist / immigration issue head-on.

There's a good article on the phenomenon of neo-Nazi parties such as the BNP & VB switching to voicing support for Israel here : http://tinyurl.com/dbrbgv   

Several Vlaams Belang MP's (including the party leader deWinter) have given the 'heil hitler' raised arm salute when being sworn in to government. One of them was jailed for it. The most recent was in 2006. Do you really think they've switched from being neo-Nazis to 'Jew lovers' in that short a period?

 [ above mostly reposted from other thread ]

Spencer, please.. are you saying you didn't appear at a conference with the VB's deWinter, and the neo-Nazi BNP?

flesner, nice try - the full quote from the Roth institute is above, where it points out that the local Jewish co
munity doesn't buy the VB's sudden love for Israel, you dishonest creep.

461

the full quote from the Roth institute is above, where it points out that the local Jewish co munity doesn't buy the VB's sudden love for Israel

I notice that the American Jewish community does not "buy" the GOP's love for Israel either. Clearly this demonstrates that the GOP is a neo-Nazi party.

I'm being sarcastic of course, though it would not surprise me in the least if you and Charles did in fact view the GOP as a neo-Nazi party. In fact I'd be mildly surprised if you did not.

So, do you have anything other than the "Stephen Roth Institute for the Study of Antisemitism and Racism, at Tel Aviv University"? Like, you know, some reputable sources who don't make their living by finding "Antisemitism and Racism" wherever they look?

You dishonest dirtbag.

462

Vlaams Belang's founders were Nazi sympathisers and collaborators.

DeWinter is a VB founder, maybe the VB founder. His father spent WWII as slave labor in a German factory. His grandfather spent WWII fighting for the resistance.

463

OMFG another Little Green Watermelons post.

Leninist totalitarians denouncing people for being Hitlerian totalitarians.

LOL.

BTW - since I usually only see you Dot-Connectors in the Human Events comment section when Spencer writes there (note to HE - get a moderator FFS) - why don't you ever discuss what he says rather than who he appears with ? 

Are you just trying to buy back your lefty cred by denouncing your former ally in your former war on Islamic extremism, or did some Islamic "charity" offer to fund CJ's one-man E-war against Christianity ?

Chucky J - A Jihad of One.

 

464

Do you really think they've switched from being neo-Nazis to 'Jew lovers' in that short a period?

Your own entire existence clearly revolves around Jews. That being so, you seem to be on weak ground to lecture other people about their supposed excessive nationalism or tribalism.

465

415 OU

"Mendaciousness" ?

Who uses phrases like this ?

You even speak like old-school Pravda.  What's next, saboteurs and Jewish doctors ?

"Glorious comrade Charles struggles daily to further the left-Atheist struggle  against the mendaciousness of the factionalist Spencerites and the right-Gellerists."

Keep those hits comin' baby - every time you speak, you discredit your position.

466

OU's obsession with personal backgrounds, party affiliations and alliances is right out of the Chekist playbook as well.

When you can't dispute a man's statements, cast the man himself into disrepute - set up a straw man and attack it instead.

OU - If you or any of the CJ stooges I've read so far want to attack Spencer's arguments, rather than Spencer the person, I'm still waiting.

467
Can we now get Ace to put a star by all of the names of those of us who have been banned from LGF?  I'd be so proud of mine.

468 o.u.

"Spencer, please.. are you saying you didn't appear at a conference with the VB's deWinter, and the neo-Nazi BNP?"

Actually, I told you above that Dewinter was at the conference. He didn't speak, and the conference was by no stretch of the imagination a white supremacist or neo-Nazi conference -- except in Johnson's libelous characterization.

BNP wasn't there. And contrary to Johnson's lies, I have consistently spoken out against and opposed the BNP, and have never appeared anywhere with any of them -- which is not to accept your implicit assumption that if I appear with anyone, I must endorse everything he stands for and has ever stood for.

469 If the neo-Nazi BNP didn't appear, great, I stand corrected.
Just the neo-Nazi deWinter then.

470

I'm old school:

Nazi = bad

Communist = bad

Neonazi = joke.

I once spoke to an anarchist. Guess I'm tainted. The thought police are in the house.

471 Johnathan E.:
The European neo-Nazi's still murder Jews like the Nazi's, and teach it as good.
Does an oven have to be involved in the murder to make it 'bad'?

472

Just the neo-Nazi deWinter then

In OU's scheme of things a "neo-Nazi" is anyone who wants to preserve his own people and culture. Unless that person is Jewish and wants to preserve the Jewish people and culture, in which case that same mentality is magically transformed into pure unalloyed goodness.

He's not hard to understand, just hard to respect.

473 Hmmmmm.  Is it just me, or does OU sound just like CfnJ?  He IS the master of sock pupppets....

474

The European neo-Nazi's still murder Jews like the Nazi's

Since you define anyone who murders Jews as a Nazi, that's easy for you to say.

But shouldn't deWinter have murdered some Jews to earn his neo-Nazi label?

475

Is it just me, or does OU sound just like CfnJ?

That crossed my mind also. He's a clown under any name, whoever he is.

476 The European neo-Nazi's still murder Jews like the Nazi's, and teach it as good.
Does an oven have to be involved in the murder to make it 'bad'?

Posted by: o.u. at September 04, 2009 02:29 PM (VeBUZ)

No, the occasional nutjob does. "like the Nazis"? There are camps? Bullshit. The Liberals and their muslim supporters are the danger. If you gave a shit about jews, you wouldn't focus on the puppies and ignore the wolves.

But, 70 something percent of American jews voted for the destruction of Israel. We can't save jews from themselves, and I'm not going to try. I support Israel. They will fight.

477 449 Sorry about redundant final half-sentence.

"Of course, having Communists in your party is not a big little sin in CJ's eyes. Or in o.u's."

Um, ok, fuck you. Another idiot.

Posted by: o.u. at September 04, 2009 11:54 AM (W07Sz)

Hey Charles, are you going to start hanging out at Ace's regularly?  Are you going to use your Sharmuta sock-puppet here too?  You're welcome to stay... we've been running short on decent lefty trolls lately.  You'd be dandy as our pinata.

And I agree with others here:  On specious grounds Chuckles has painted all conservatives except Frum as villians... so I distrust any of his assertions.  That doesn't make everything he's said lately wrong, just less trustworthy than proclamations of Excitable Andy about Trig Palin's parentage.

478 I suppose it's possible Vlams Belang is everything Charles Johnson says it is. I don't really know. He would have a stronger case though, if he could show them burning books rather than buying and selling them at a book fair. Of course, if VB ever starts pimping Kindle, then I'll know they're evil.

479 This is getting really OT, but Jack, google "Vlaams Belang Hitlergroet" for Vlasms Belang MP's giving the Hitler salute when being sworn into parliament. blokwatch.be amongst others has the pictures. Would that convince you?

Google for article "The deWinter of our Discontent" from Outraged Spleen of Zion (can't be bothered to tinyurl) for more info.

Or google "sound and fury vlaams belang" ( I'm pretty sure )

Or google "site:eurofascism.info Vlaams Belang" for more facts & links.

etc.

480

What is that Odin's cross doing on his shelf at the end of the video, I asked myself? I know when I see it that is only used by two groups of people, Neo-Pagans and White Power groups. This is not an old clip, this is very recent.

Hah, hah, You can't turn around in Ireland without bumping into "Odins Cross". It must be a Nazi paradise.

This is the problem when people who know jack shit about another culture try to analyze it based on a few scraps of mistaken knowledge.

Your "Odins Cross", your supposed White Power symbol,  is actually a Celtic Cross, a Christian symbol very common in Europe, especially among Catholics.

http://tinyurl.com/5plpjc

The Flemish are Catholic.

But please, continue to display your near total ignorance for my amusement.

 

481 By the way the Nazis were not "White Power" people. Crack a damn book sometime.

482

Chuckles Johnson the Klown says:

The hate mail situation is getting stupid. I've received more than 100 abusive emails so far about the Van Jones Truther issue.

I'm starting to just IP block anyone who sends that kind of sick crap to me.

It's good to be the king.

483

Ooops --

King Charles said:

The hate mail situation is getting stupid. I've received more than 100 abusive emails so far about the Van Jones Truther issue.

I'm starting to just IP block anyone who sends that kind of sick crap to me.

I added "It's good to be the king."

484
This blog is getting all f'd up. Italics don't post right. It's back to the old server days. One.More.Time.

King Charles said:

[The hate mail situation is getting stupid. I've received more than 100 abusive emails so far about the Van Jones Truther issue.

I'm starting to just IP block anyone who sends that kind of sick crap to me.]

I added "It's good to be the king."

485 Ou- You make a lot of assumptions based on innuendo and generalization, so their fore I assume that you are CJ's sock puppet, and therefore not capable of carrying Mr. Spencers jock. You and CJ both think alike, do you, or he, have any friends at all that has a contrarian thought, or do you just rub every body out that sneezes wrong

486 I was once in the same room with Santa Claus, does that make me an elf?

487  I was once in the same room with Santa Claus, does that make me an elf?

Posted by: jainphx at September 04, 2009 08:42 PM (ebos5)

Yes.

488 Well there you go, I didn't know that!

489 Keeping an eye on those V'lambs B'elfs. Facsists, every one.

490 Flenser:

"This is the problem when people who know jack shit about another culture try to analyze it based on a few scraps of mistaken knowledge."

Yes. And don't forget Johnson's funeral photos of Dewinter with LePen (whose antisemitism he has explicitly repudiated). Dewinter and LePen were photographed together, therefore they're in complete agreement about everything, right?

Charles Johnson has apparently never been to a funeral. If he ever goes to one, he might be surprised to learn that people of differing political views sometimes show up at the same funeral, and can even be photographed together there.

Yet his moronic level of analysis caused immense damage to the reputations of numerous decent people and some noble warriors. Charles Johnson is a truly evil human being.

491 I sure hope CJ has never said anything bad about Joe McCarthy. That would be....what is that word I'm thinking of?

492 "It's extremely common for 9/11 Truthers, creationists, and anti-AGW groups to add prominent people's names to lists like this without their knowledge."

Truthers & creationists. No difference for Charles. Sweet.

Lots of deleted comments on that thread. Charles must be off his meds.

493 This is getting really OT, but Jack, google "Vlaams Belang Hitlergroet" for Vlasms Belang MP's giving the Hitler salute when being sworn into parliament.
Just think, if anyone snaps a photo of me hailing a taxi, I could be accused of being a nazi. Have you ever seen the Olympic salute? It involves holding the right arm out straight to the right. Not exactly the same as the nazi salute, but close enough to cause confusion when non-nazi athletes used it at the 1932 Olympics.

494 "This is getting really OT, but Jack, google "Vlaams Belang Hitlergroet" for Vlasms Belang MP's giving the Hitler salute when being sworn into parliament.
Just think, if anyone snaps a photo of me hailing a taxi, I could be accused of being a nazi. Have you ever seen the Olympic salute? It involves holding the right arm out straight to the right. Not exactly the same as the nazi salute, but close enough to cause confusion when non-nazi athletes used it at the 1932 Olympics."


good god you're a fucking moron

495 Shame on Johnson for spinning for one of the dangerous marxists in Obama's team.

Shame on the people here who are spinning for European anti-Semitic white nationalists.

496 Ayuh...

497 Okay, let's think about this for a second. Is there any evidence of VB killing Jews? No. Is there any evidence of them killing Gypsies? No. Is there any evidence of them attacking Jews or Gypsies? No. Attacking Jewish businesses? No. Advocating hatred of Jews, Gypsies and others? No. What is there evidence of? Giving a salute. Oh, that's good evidence.

498 Shame on the people here who are spinning for European anti-Semitic white nationalists.
Expecting people to prove their claims is not spinning.

499

Don't remember a lot of jews dying in Europe recently. I do remember a lot of christians dying around the world recently. Why are you pushing this distraction?

I'll ask again. Why are you not upset with liberals and their muslim supporters?

500 I think it is awesome that Robert Spencer comments here. Much respect, Sir.

501 Jack, you can't have looked very hard. Perhaps start with the European Jewish Congress, or contact the US government - they also keep an eye on dangerous international elements.
By the way, one the 'siege heil' MP salutors was jailed for 3 months for his action, outright Nazi symbology being illegal there.

Johnathan E., is it too much for you to contemplate that I consider both Islamists and the Nazi groups in Europe as dangerous? Or are you just being a disingenuous fuck?

You seem unaware of the dynamic in Europe : Nazi groups are kept under the cosh of the law, as they should be, while Islamist groups have got away with murder under the covet of the policy of multicultural tolerance.

This has given the Nazi's growing support from the stupid, the dim-witted, the bigotted and those with short memories.
The VB and the BNP are Nazi political organisations waiting to be voted into power. Their hatred is intact - they'll set up the camps that you mention once they're in power.

502

You seem unaware of the dynamic in Europe : Nazi groups are kept under the cosh of the law, as they should be, while Islamist groups have got away with murder under the covet of the policy of multicultural tolerance.

So you are saying the muslims are winning, but you'd rather go after a fringe group? What a hero.

503

The VB and the BNP are Nazi political organisations waiting to be voted into power.

You are an ignorant bigot who views the entire world through a Jewish prism. Velaams Belang are a Flemish separatist group. They are not Nazis or "White Power" people. They are remarkably similar to the Jewish nationalists in the years before WWII. You can't admit this because you view all nationalism (other than Jewish) as Nazism.

504

Shame on the people here who are spinning for European anti-Semitic white nationalists.

The phrase "anti-Semitic white nationalists" is redundant as used by you. You regard ALL European nationalisms as being "anti-Semitic" by definition.

You know, if you were equally critical of Jewish nationalism as you are of every other sort I'd still regard you as a moron. But I would not regard you as a comically hypocritical one.

505 Johnathan E. : So you are saying the muslims are winning, but you'd rather go after a fringe group?

Vlaams Belang aren't fringe - they recently got 15% of the vote, down from their peak in 2004 of 24%.   I'd like to see both Nazis and Islamofascists defeated - it's really a simple concept.

flenser: You can't admit this because you view all nationalism (other than Jewish) as Nazism.

Nothing I've written supports your statement, or even hints at it.

flenser: Velaams Belang are a Flemish separatist group. They are not Nazis or "White Power" people.

They just happen to have a lot Nazis in their leadership and lots of "White Power" people in their membership.

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One of the most admirable things about Johnson back in the day was, not his intellectual prowess (being some kinda hippie jazz freak and all) but his simple persistence in uncovering the pure bullshit espoused by Islamists or truthers or leftist intelligentsia, etc etc etc and basically keeping these jackoffs to a high standard.  And of course it was fun watching them writhe, "I was taken out of context, that wasn't the petition I thought I was signing, I was tricked, it's all a lie, BAAWWWWWW!!!!!!"  And Johnson was among the ones to keep up the heat simply by keeping the truth in the light of day.

But now...I don't know what, man.  What happened to his standards?  All these truther assholes are exposed and they give the same tired excuses.  "I was taken out of context, that wasn't the petition I thought I was signing, I was tricked, it's all a lie, BAAWWWWWW!!!!!!"  And suddenly, this is good enough for Johnson?  "Oh, Truthers lie all the time, so we'll give these guys a pass."  BUT THESE GUYS *ARE* TRUTHERS, YOU FUCKING IMBECILE!!!!!!!!!!  This kind of piss poor excuse making wasn't good enough when he got up Robert Spencer's ass for joining some fascist Facebook group, but suddenly...Christ, it's not that these guys are doing a good job of pulling the wool over Johnson's eyes, it's that he's doing it to himself.  And for what?  So Johnson can sit from his little perch and lament the state of American politics?  Piss or get off the pot, Johnson!  Stop with your bullshit little act.  You're not above it all and trying to be the intellectually curious moderate got old a long time ago.  Take.  A.  God.  Damn.  Stand!

I used to read his site every day for years.  Then he lost me when he came down against the Tea Parties.  Until now, I would have just said that he went someplace else and I just couldn't agree with him any longer and left it at that.  Now, the man has not a shred of integrity left.  He is contemptable.

508 Just fyi:
(Sep 07-09:12) irishrose has joined.
(Sep 07-09:12) irishrose: good morning haters
(Sep 07-09:13) irishrose: just thought I’d leave you a note to let you know that this chat wll be closing shortly
(Sep 07-09:14) irishrose: I want to thank you for all the documentation and information that I’ve been collecting for the last couple of weeks via chatroom mole, it’s been very helpful
(Sep 07-09:14) irishrose: however it’s time for your party to end, you’ll have to host your own chatroom now
(Sep 07-09:14) irishrose: tata
(Sep 07-09:16) irishrose: on and by the way, you might want to let your admins know that they’re under surveillance by the feds. If you want your little hate site to stay out of trouble you might want to consider reigning in Savage and Rodan, they’ve both been marked.
(Sep 07-09:16) irishrose: Have a nice day.

Hey Irish – next time you have something to say to ME, you come and say it to me. No more of this sneaking around. Fookin’ witch.

Apparently berating, belittling, threatening, stalking and bashing on his own readers isn’t enough for Charles Johnson. That’s the climate on his own blog, his own threads… he’s reaching out by proxy.

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CJ banned me yesterday, for pointing out something obvious about the signage he was going on about.  Today I found an example of what they said was there, but couldn't point to it.

I was going to post a thank you note to CJ, as it got me looking.

But I was banned so I couldn't post.

Hey CJ, I did find the [this time] in a poster, and yeah that is nuts.

Too bad I can't tell you to your face. 

Have you ever thought that, I dunno, banning people you disagree with has a tendency to make your site an echo chamber? 

I appear to be in good company, as you banned Carl in Jerusalem, Yid with a lid, and many other bright, witty, funny bloggers.

Hey CJ ... have a good long hard look around you, and note that lots of folks are kinda pissed at your antics right now.

You've done good work, in the past.  Not sure whats going on now with you.  If you ever do return to the concept of open discourse, even with people you vehemently disagree, I'd be happy to rejoin and keep the discussion lively.  But banning people who hold no malice towards you and only focus upon having a good discussion? 

Maybe not so good.

Since I can't send you an email, or post on your site, I'm posting on Ace's.  Best of luck, and I hope all is and goes well by you.  I can't see how the trajectory you are on can end any other way than badly for  your site, but it is your site, you set the "rules" and we respect them, even if we disagree.

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