CNN: Obama lied - your taxes ARE going to go up

CNN: Obama lied - your taxes ARE going to go up - a lot

When CNN won't carry water for the one anymore, the charade is pretty much over.

...Shy of finding a fairy willing to leave trillions under Uncle Sam's pillow, lawmakers will have to raise taxes and cut spending...
...President Obama is pledging to keep taxes low for most people...
...Experts say that's not going to cut it.
"Taxes are going up and they're going up for a lot more people than those making more than $250,000. Why? Math. The numbers don't come close to working,"...

I've been told math is hard, particularly when lots of zeros and numbers Steven Hawking would be more familiar with are involved. ~~Messiahs~~ Presidents aren't expected to understand such things. A bucket full of zeros are beyond their pay grade.

Get ready for Swedish tax levels and Haiti level services.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at 07:26 PM

Comments

1 I'm shocked. SHOCKED I tell you Jughead has not kept his promise.

That's it, my unicorn and its Skittles shit goes in the trash!

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at August 28, 2009 07:28 PM (MCHyX)

2 Anyone who didn't think taxes would be going through the roof when Obama got elected is brain dead.

Posted by: kefka at August 28, 2009 07:29 PM (udoJ3)

3 Tax the deficit! Tax the zeros! Problem solved!

Posted by: Thumb Tax at August 28, 2009 07:29 PM (nTM50)

4 Wait for it.... "As I have always said, it's going to take sacrifice from us all."

Posted by: rockhead at August 28, 2009 07:30 PM (RykTt)

5 Off the grid, people, while there's still time!

Posted by: John Brown's Baby at August 28, 2009 07:31 PM (D4W5g)

6 The biggest non-surprise of the year!

Posted by: EC at August 28, 2009 07:31 PM (iWj1i)

7 Just when I got my stable all decked out for my new unicorn..

Posted by: Dave C at August 28, 2009 07:31 PM (La0Tt)

What gets us Haiti tax levels and Swedish level services? Specifically, the Swedish bikini team and happy endings?

Hey, somebody had to ask.

Posted by: KingShamus at August 28, 2009 07:33 PM (8n1j5)

9 I think he should just sell space to The Economist, but that's just me.

Posted by: Editor at August 28, 2009 07:34 PM (pUfK9)

10 Taxes are too high ... he wants to raise them. His tax increases are the fine print in his economic plan, and let me be specific.

The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes ... raise payroll taxes ... raise investment income taxes ... raise the death tax ... raise business taxes ... and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars.

- Sarah Palin one year ago tomorrow

Posted by: Trish at August 28, 2009 07:34 PM (0U5Kd)

11 Obvious first major step -- "means tested" social security which WOULD FLY as a "soak the rich" populist deal. What do millionaires need with a few thousand extra bucks a month anyway?

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 28, 2009 07:35 PM (jPJan)

12 OT Glad ace is getting ad revenue and all but do we have to have a picture of Zero on every post!!!!

Posted by: steevy at August 28, 2009 07:36 PM (RFgwj)

13 Man I for one am so glad we dodged having Palin as our VP.

Posted by: UncleFacts Summoner of the Meteors at August 28, 2009 07:36 PM (vZVv7)

14 CNN... delivering last year's news today.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 28, 2009 07:36 PM (AZGON)

15 @10 Ah, that was a great speech. So true, don't say you weren't warned America.

Posted by: kefka at August 28, 2009 07:37 PM (udoJ3)

16 Why? Math.

I was told there would be not math.

Posted by: Douglas at August 28, 2009 07:38 PM (uU+Ss)

17 Thank you for watching CNN. Some of us don't have the stomach for it.

Posted by: arhooley at August 28, 2009 07:39 PM (47oGK)

18 They - The Economist - once tried sending me unsolicitated issues then billing me for them. I just refused delivery. Good to see they are seeking to improve their image. Cheers!

Posted by: meleager at August 28, 2009 07:39 PM (3KxZn)

19
And get ready for Nancy Our Lady of Perpetual Shocked Expression Pelosi to be out of the Speaker's office.

Posted by: His Holiness Tweet Paul II at August 28, 2009 07:39 PM (9Pqb0)

20 @10.

She was off by a factor of 1000... not billions, thousands of billions.

I dunno. Trillion has a lot of zeros, I might have missed a few.

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at August 28, 2009 07:40 PM (MCHyX)

21 The zeros won't matter anymore. You'll just pay with money by the pound. ex. two pounds of bills gets you a loaf of bread.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 28, 2009 07:42 PM (jPJan)

22 Hey, Purple Avenger, a certain other President decided to send 1 trillion dollars to Iraq, pass a hugely bloated senior medicine bill, all the while US suffered huge trade deficits with China.

Do you think he raised taxes? If not, how did he pay for everything? It's not like he can do tricks for money like I do.

Posted by: Dum Dum (blah blah Booosh!) at August 28, 2009 07:44 PM (VDj74)

23 Glad I stocked up on Zimbabwe dollars. Might be worth more than US dollars soon.

Posted by: hutch1200 at August 28, 2009 07:45 PM (hOZ6V)

24 California has decided to bump people into higher tax brackets to get more money. Because raising taxes on a broke populace is always a good idea.

I'm so glad I'm getting out of this state.

Posted by: wherestherum at August 28, 2009 07:47 PM (gofDd)

25 Dum Dum. Ok, go back to hanging Bush, in effigy. That will really unfuck us now! Any more bright ideas besides the "way back machine? Asshole.

Posted by: hutch1200 at August 28, 2009 07:47 PM (hOZ6V)

26 two pounds of bills gets you a loaf of bread.

I don't think people are grasping that we've become a 3rd world country yet. The Chinese already quit buying our debt because they know under the marxists it isn't any good (they bought plenty from Bush, no matter how squishy). When the ChiComs see the writing on the wall more clearly than the populace, we're f*cked.

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 28, 2009 07:47 PM (doeSo)

27 And no, you can't have my unicorn.

Posted by: wherestherum at August 28, 2009 07:48 PM (gofDd)

28 I happen to think john cougar mellancamp is an excellent performer.

But I thought,

You Know John? If you spent more time on the EFFING FARM RATHER THAN TRYING TO BE A ROCK STAR! Your Daddy and Grandaddy, and kids could still have that effing farm.

How'd that owrk out for you?

Good?
What? the free market HELPED YOU!? GTFOOH!!!

Posted by: Douglas at August 28, 2009 07:48 PM (uU+Ss)

29 pass a hugely bloated senior medicine bill

Did you happen to catch the name of one of the co-authors of that bill?

Posted by: EC at August 28, 2009 07:48 PM (iWj1i)

30 Well, folks, you heard it here: Bush wasn't a fiscal conservative -- therefore Ovomit, who's even LESS of a fiscal conservative, is A-Okay.

Does your head hurt yet?

Posted by: Beverly at August 28, 2009 07:49 PM (Y3H2z)

31
well, Dummy, your assignment tonight is to look up the word 'revenues', as in tax receipts. Then study how revenues are directly tied into economic growth, tax cuts, investment, commerce, and employment.

Posted by: His Holiness Tweet Paul II at August 28, 2009 07:49 PM (iD12c)

32 @25

my point is that US can be heavily in debt without the President having to raise taxes. I don't recall conservatives saying Bush left no choice but to raise taxes when Bush was spending money out the wazoo. Maybe he did say it, but Oprah was on and well, you know...it's Oprah.

Posted by: Dum Dum (now with 50% more dumbness) at August 28, 2009 07:49 PM (VDj74)

33
$12,obama (1 obama = 000,000,000,000) after just six months. Wait 'til he gets some experience at this!

Posted by: t-bird at August 28, 2009 07:49 PM (FcR7P)

34 ace has ads!

Still awaiting the hot babe singes site ads and the busty t-shirt model ads

Posted by: kbdabear at August 28, 2009 07:50 PM (0Lv+U)

35 Duhhhh!

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at August 28, 2009 07:51 PM (Eom7x)

36 I don't recall conservatives like PA saying Bush left no choice but to raise taxes when Bush was spending money out the wazoo

Good thing conservatives like PA aren't saying that. People quoted by CNN are, though.

Posted by: Slublog at August 28, 2009 07:51 PM (/+NpN)

37 Still awaiting the hot babe singes site ads and the busty t-shirt model ads

Turn off your ad-block.

Posted by: EC at August 28, 2009 07:51 PM (iWj1i)

38 I truly think he had a 3-pronged approach and all had to be implemented for it to work: (1) porkulus, (2) cap and trade and (3) health care.

Cap and trade was supposed to pay for it all. No direct taxes on the little people, all indirect.

I also think he not only is willing to be a 1-termer, he fully intended it. A second term means being held responsible for his actions. He wanted to shove "social justice" down our throats, whether we like it or not.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 28, 2009 07:51 PM (T0NGe)

39 Oddly, the left still wants to blame Bush.

No he shouldn't have spent so much (or should I say, Congress shouldn't have spent so much, specifically the 2007 on variety led by libtards).

But that's no reason for Jughead to increase it to more debt than all the presidents from Geo. Washington to W COMBINED.

Like pappy used to say, when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.

And NOTHING Bush may or may not have done is nearly as crippling to US industry as His Redness' policies.

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at August 28, 2009 07:51 PM (MCHyX)

40 >>>my point is that US can be heavily in debt without the President having to raise taxes.

really, Dummathon? You don't think there's, you know, a limit to where that is no longer true?

Posted by: His Holiness Tweet Paul II at August 28, 2009 07:52 PM (iD12c)

41 Higher taxes so we can buy every dead beat asshole a new car. This shit is really pissing me off. They're gunna push us until one day around April 15th millions of taxpayers are going to collectivly tell the feds to shag off.

Posted by: Sparky at August 28, 2009 07:52 PM (J1f2W)

42 I KNEW my taxes were going up. No question about it.

What I did NOT know is how awesomely the Sex Pistols rocked that song OUT.

I am supposed to be too old to enjoy that kinda music.

Guess not.

Posted by: TXMarko at August 28, 2009 07:52 PM (vGYqw)

43 @36

well, Purple Avenger took extreme liberty with the title of this post...which also misconstrues the CNN post. But then again, sometimes people make mistakes. Like the time there was this hot chick I wanted to fuq and...well...wow. Girl parts are scary.

Posted by: Dum Dum (the only unemployed racist who lives with mommy on AoS) at August 28, 2009 07:53 PM (VDj74)

Dum Dum..How'd the market do today? Even with Chappicare on the rocks (hee hee) it is still not enough to help the markets. BTW down today..again.

My 401k was doing better under booshitlercheney. Dickweed

Posted by: hutch1200 at August 28, 2009 07:53 PM (hOZ6V)

45 Socialist all like money. As to liberal demorats..........yours!

(what? you want them to earn a living? are you nucking futs?!?!?!)

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at August 28, 2009 07:54 PM (Eom7x)

46 @42

I KNEW my taxes were going up.

Your taxes haven't gone up a cent. Stop being a melodramatic whiner. Be a lying douchebag whiner like me, instead.

Posted by: Dum Dum (i don't care about taxes because i don't pay them) at August 28, 2009 07:54 PM (VDj74)

47 This can't last; even if the American people are too lazy to revolt, this kind of system is utterly unsustainable. Plus our credit card is just about broken. Maybe we can get this trainwreck over with before I get out of college.

Posted by: Fortunate Son at August 28, 2009 07:54 PM (FaLC9)

48 well, Purple Avenger took extreme liberty with the title of this post...which also misconstrues the CNN post

Extreme liberty?

Huh. I guess we can add 'reading comprehension' to the long, long list of things you're not good at:

"Taxes are going up and they're going up for a lot more people than those making more than $250,000. Why? Math. The numbers don't come close to working," Walker said.

Posted by: Slublog at August 28, 2009 07:55 PM (/+NpN)

49 Like I've been saying for years, wheelbarrows baby! Invest in wheelbarrows and wheelbarrow futures!

Posted by: Cliff Clavin at August 28, 2009 07:55 PM (D2il9)

50 @39

What Obama is doing is called creating a debt-backed recovery. He has to spend to stimulate the economy into recovery. Like Keynes used to say. By the way, did you know Keynes was gay? That's so fuqqing hot.

Also, it's not Obama's idea. It's chairman Bernankes', you know, the guy your favorite President picked. So stop blaming it on Obama, Bush would've followed Bernanke's exactly the same path as Obama.
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Posted by: Dum Dum (the only unemployed racist who lives with mommy on AoS) at August 28, 2009 07:56 PM (VDj74)

51 Heart-Ache:
I voted for the chocolate prince, so it pains me to admit that he is a liar. But let's not be so fast to slam him. He is from Kenya and Kansas, so there's the chance that he's doing some Kenyan math that we as Americans aren't familiar with.

Exit Question:
Is it time to lower the flags to half mast on behalf of his presidency or should we give him some time and hope that the voodoo his mother in law is practicing can pull a rabbit out of the hat?

Posted by: Allah Pundit at August 28, 2009 07:56 PM (3iLsu)

52 .....as we were trained to say, so long, long, ago.

YUCK FOU, and the edited you rode in on!

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at August 28, 2009 07:56 PM (Eom7x)

53 Bush's deficits were nonexistant by comparison. Remember that Obama's -- even in his own rosy scenario -- exceed the sum total of those during Bush's.

In addition, the spending was in large part extorted by Democrats who held up Bush's international policies, not on principle, but to get pork. This was particularly true starting in 2007.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 28, 2009 07:56 PM (T0NGe)

54 PS, maka (more aptly known as) D-D, glad to see you've apparently overcome one out of very numerous aspects of your general self-delusion and removed the laughable "(the only non-partisan at AoS)" - bwahahahahahahahah!!!! - from your moniker.

Back to the topic at hand: Bush spent >$1 trillion on Iraq, which was bad, so it's okay if Obama gives us a >=$9 trillion deficit. Yes, that really makes a lot of sense.

You really need to just give up and pack it in. You're not convincing anyone of anything except that there do indeed exist levels of stupidity, ignorance, and shamelessness we would never before have thought possible.

Posted by: african chick at August 28, 2009 07:57 PM (2h2KZ)

55 What Obama is doing is called creating a debt-backed recovery. He has to spend to stimulate the economy into recovery.

How's that workin' out for ya?

Posted by: AmishDude at August 28, 2009 07:57 PM (T0NGe)

56 @48

did the math dictate that taxes needed to go up during bush's reign? yeah it did....unless there were massive cuts in spending, which did not occur. You know what else didn't occur? My fuqqing erection.

Posted by: Dum Dum (even dumber than Lamont) at August 28, 2009 07:57 PM (VDj74)

57 NOBODY is going to touch our debt because they know we will have no choice but to default with a socialist, contracting economy.

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 28, 2009 07:57 PM (doeSo)

58 I repeat, if you make more than $250,000 per year, your taxes will not increase one single dime!!! That is of course unless the horse is the famous Mr. Ed.

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 28, 2009 07:58 PM (wAQA5)

59 @54

It's all projected. You know, like how you conservatives always dismissed the Clintonian surplus as imaginary...the same standard would hold Obama's 9 trillion projection imaginary as well until it actually materializes.

Yeah, this is too stupid to change. Revel in its ignorance and thank whatever deity you worship that you're not this frakking stupid.

Posted by: Dum Dum (i sponge off my parents) at August 28, 2009 07:59 PM (VDj74)

60 What Obama is doing is called creating a debt-backed recovery. He has to spend to stimulate the economy into recovery.

How's that workin' out for ya?

Not so well, had to get us into WW2 to fix things with manufacturing.

Posted by: Franklin Delano Roosevelt at August 28, 2009 07:59 PM (doeSo)

61
>>>What Obama is doing is called creating a debt-backed recovery.

Do these words make sense to anyone? Maybe this makes sense in an alternative universe?

Posted by: His Holiness Tweet Paul II at August 28, 2009 08:00 PM (9Pqb0)

62 I've once again lost the argument, so I'm going to slink off in shame like the little shit I am.

Posted by: honest palin steel (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at August 28, 2009 08:00 PM (VDj74)

63 The numbers don't come close to working

No shit.

Obama's original economic plan might as well have been called the "Put it on the Underhills' tab" plan.

Posted by: Andy at August 28, 2009 08:00 PM (FQM9+)

64 Dum Dum likes history? Fine, let's blame FDR and every donk Congress since then.

Posted by: hutch1200 at August 28, 2009 08:00 PM (hOZ6V)

65 Who knew unicorn farts and rainbow skittles weren't accepted as currency?

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 28, 2009 08:02 PM (doeSo)

66 the ClintonianNewtonian surplus

FIFY, you don't remember the Limbaugh montages of Clinton talking about when he would eliminate the deficit -- 10 years, 5 years, 7 years, 5 years, etc., etc.

When did it happen? Speaker Newt. That's when.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 28, 2009 08:02 PM (T0NGe)

67 Off the grid, people, while there's still time!

Posted by: John Brown's Baby at August 28, 2009 07:31 PM (D4W5g)

My husband is overseas working on this right now.

Posted by: Tami at August 28, 2009 08:03 PM (VuLos)

68
These moonbats are funny. It's like if Obama went out and invaded six countries and started six wars. Then the moonbats would say, "I didn't hear you conservatives complaining when Bush started two wars."

It's the same with the deficit. Bush spent too much, and then Obama comes along and spends 3 times as much. And the leftwing justifies it by saying Bush Did It Too.

Posted by: His Holiness Tweet Paul II at August 28, 2009 08:03 PM (9Pqb0)

69 When the president lets the Bush tax cuts expire and the market goes to 7000 lets see how brave the Congressional democrats stay. They know this president is just passing through.
#60- yep, a proven failure barring an outside event that renders it moot

Posted by: jjshaka at August 28, 2009 08:04 PM (+gptx)

70 >>>What Obama is doing is called creating a debt-backed recovery.

Do these words make sense to anyone? Maybe this makes sense in an alternative universe?

Oh, this is old-fashioned Keynes. Basically: You run deficits in bad times and pay for them in good times with surpluses.

Yes. Economists actually believe that this is possible. Ignore the economics, the politics of this policy is...bollocks.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 28, 2009 08:04 PM (T0NGe)

71 did the math dictate that taxes needed to go up during bush's reign? yeah it did....unless there were massive cuts in spending, which did not occur.

You know what else didn't occur? Unprecedented spending on a scale not seen since the last world war. You really aren't that good at this, are you?

Posted by: Slublog at August 28, 2009 08:04 PM (/+NpN)

72 I love Dum Dum's dramatic exits. They always put us all in our place.

Posted by: kefka at August 28, 2009 08:04 PM (udoJ3)

73 I'm not a conservative. I don't know how many times I need to tell you fucking imbecilic trolls that. I wish the fuck you'd learn.

I AM NOT A CONSERVATIVE

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 28, 2009 08:05 PM (jPJan)

74 I don't really get why the quality of trolls (both here and on Hot Air and other conservative sites) has decreases so precipitously if Obama is doing such a great job. They used to be more subtle; now I'm pretty sure moveon.org has resorted to hiring 14 year old 4chan regulars.

If my theory is correct, most of them will vanish once school gets back in, at least between 8:00 and 3:30.

Posted by: Fortunate Son at August 28, 2009 08:06 PM (FaLC9)

Redskins and Pats game is now on just in case any of you morons wanted to see Brady get planted a few feet beneath Fed Ex Field.

Posted by: Blazer at August 28, 2009 08:06 PM (AoS9J)

Taxes? Quit yappin'. You got money. Why lookit dat fine car you drivin'. Whatchoo all uptight about Whitey?

Posted by: crack whore with a credit card at August 28, 2009 08:07 PM (wAQA5)

77 "What Obama is doing is called creating a debt-backed recovery. He has to spend to stimulate the economy into recovery."

I feel a facepalm coming on.

That's how I pay on my credit cards too. Works great. I tell people when they get $1000s in debt, to just back it up with...more debt. Recovery from credit card woes has never been so easy.

Posted by: Twinks at August 28, 2009 08:10 PM (wjosM)

78
From what little I know of Keynes, I don't believe he'd sign off on what Obama is doing today.

Keynes wasn't reckless, from what I gathered. I read he was always concerned with keeping inflation in check. So, to me, that means he knew his limits. Obama, however, is reckless and knows no bounds when it comes to our nation's treasury.

Posted by: His Holiness Tweet Paul II at August 28, 2009 08:10 PM (9Pqb0)

79 Ah, Dum-Dum has decided to clutch his dogeared copy of Keynes and ignore the simple economic concept of ceteris paribus. Yes, spending large amounts of money has the potential to create a multiplier effect, unless...you also engage in large-scale reform, disrupting equality and creating uncertainty.

Which is pretty much what Keynes himself warned FDR not to do.

Posted by: Slublog at August 28, 2009 08:10 PM (/+NpN)

80 Obama just LOVEVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVES him some Zeroes!

Posted by: billygoat at August 28, 2009 08:10 PM (DrB2V)

81 why the quality of trolls (both here and on Hot Air and other conservative sites) has decreases so precipitously

The quality of bullshit coming out of the Obama administration has also declined in lockstep. Coincidence? I think not./

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 28, 2009 08:10 PM (jPJan)

82 I love teh funnies as much as the rest of you, but shit, guys. Let's stop with the humor, and think about what the most Marxist Administration Evah is going to do. To us all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at August 28, 2009 08:12 PM (UOM48)

Redskins and Pats game is now on just in case any of you morons wanted to see Brady get planted a few feet beneath Fed Ex Field. Posted by: Blazer

Ooo! OOoo! Wanna see! Wanna see!

Posted by: TXMarko at August 28, 2009 08:13 PM (vGYqw)

ace has ads!

Looking at ads is just like paying taxes.

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 28, 2009 08:13 PM (X6Zdh)

85 Thought you were taking the night off, Jane.

Posted by: Winston Smith at August 28, 2009 08:13 PM (MFbfZ)

86 Dummy the unemployed, living with mommy, has no money loser thinking he's going to educate people on economics. That's just too funny.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 28, 2009 08:14 PM (ovPiF)

87 The quality of bullshit coming out of the Obama administration has also declined in lockstep. Coincidence? I think not./

I'd like to say they're getting desperate. I wish there was some way to quantify the shittiness of trolls and plot it against Obama's poll numbers and the support for his programs. It might make a good polisci thesis topic, and it'd be hilarious to watch the professors at my university get steamed.

Posted by: Fortunate Son at August 28, 2009 08:16 PM (FaLC9)

88 unemployed, living with mommy, has no money loser thinking he's going to educate people on economics.

AKA, every hussein supporter under 30. Wonder how that hopenchange is gonna taste when that's all they have to eat.

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 28, 2009 08:16 PM (doeSo)

89 Okay. I'm going to get into the mindset. My kid has been given a one week delay into the Marines (his "buddy" didn't make the physical cut). I'm doing the Happy Dance, my kid is depressed. So I'm depressed.

In the meantime, I for one, look forward to our taxing overlords. I bow to thee, Lord Obama. I await, with great anticipation, my special place in the camps.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at August 28, 2009 08:17 PM (UOM48)

The quality of bullshit coming out of the Obama administration has also declined in lockstep. Coincidence? I think not./

The quality may have declined, but the bullshit getting dumped daily rivals that of any Kansas City stockade.

Quality isn't so much an attribute of Communism as much as quantity.

Posted by: Blazer at August 28, 2009 08:17 PM (AoS9J)

91 The thing is, if you're just going to borrow money to spend stimulating the economy, it is much more efficient just to cut tax rates and run a deficit. The invisible hand know how best to allocate the resources.

Posted by: toby928 at August 28, 2009 08:18 PM (PD1tk)

92 Damn!

Posted by: Ron Simmons, AKA Farooq at August 28, 2009 08:19 PM (HF2US)

93 Who can enlighten me on this?

If Republicans take back the House in 2010, how much of the debt pile-up can be avoided?

Posted by: Winston Smith at August 28, 2009 08:19 PM (MFbfZ)

94 it is much more efficient just to cut tax rates and run a deficit. The invisible hand know how best to allocate the resources.

Posted by: toby928 at August 28, 2009 08:18 PM (PD1tk)

This assumes you CARE about the economy. When all you care about is REDISTRIBUTION, it screws up your plan.

Posted by: Tami at August 28, 2009 08:20 PM (VuLos)

95 But..but...but....Obamanomics says we can have GREAT service at LOW tax levels. BARRY PROMISED!

Posted by: GarandFan at August 28, 2009 08:20 PM (qKTIT)

96
Tax and spend.

Shit, were have I heard that before? It sounds familiar...

Posted by: Dang at August 28, 2009 08:21 PM (0kuJD)

97 I know Ace disagrees with this precept, but don't forget that hussein isn't planning on any kind of 'recovery'. This is his fundamental change in the U.S. economy - he plans on destroying it. Don't underestimate the malevolence and hatred this mutt feels for western civilization in general and the U.S. in particular. In his reality, we are responsible for everything that is evil in this world.

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 28, 2009 08:22 PM (doeSo)

98 Why the malaise? There's no need to raise taxes. We can print money and inflate our troubles away.

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at August 28, 2009 08:22 PM (ejHeB)

99 I just stopped by to watch Jennifer Connelly ride the pony again... thanks... thanks...

http://minx.cc/?post=291385

Posted by: Bruce Kelly at August 28, 2009 08:22 PM (YEZCf)

100
yeah, as Slu says, there are different types of govt spending.

Obama's spending is the worst type: entitlement spending, for which there is zero return...so it's a shitty investment.

Other spending, on such as, say, infrastructure, can be 'good' spending because it creates jobs and helps the flow of commerce, both of which generate revenue for the government in the form of taxes. So there is a return on the govt's investment.

Posted by: His Holiness Tweet Paul II at August 28, 2009 08:23 PM (iD12c)

101 how much of the debt pile-up can be avoided?

Not much. All they can do in 2010 is stonewall subsequent spending. There won't be the juice to repeal anything and override a presidential veto of the repeal legislation.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 28, 2009 08:23 PM (jPJan)

102 Shit.

Posted by: Winston Smith at August 28, 2009 08:25 PM (MFbfZ)

103 O/T

Can we please bury that fucktard Kennedy already? Oh, I forgot. The Won must speak tomorrow. I'll be chewing an entire roll of aluminum foil, first.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at August 28, 2009 08:25 PM (UOM48)

104 Posted by: Jane D'oh! at August 28, 2009 08:25 PM (UOM4

Turn.the.TV.off...or switch to the Food Network. ;o)

Posted by: Tami at August 28, 2009 08:26 PM (VuLos)

105 Other spending, on such as, say, infrastructure, can be 'good' spending

People are starting to realize a lot of the supposed infrastructure spending isn't happening as planned. All those decaying bridges on the verge of collapse are being ignored in favor of "easy" repaving projects elsewhere.

It was probably a big mistake to just hand piles of cash to the states to spend as they please. They're treating it as most people treat free money - recklessly.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 28, 2009 08:27 PM (jPJan)

106 103 O/T

Can we please bury that fucktard Kennedy already? Oh, I forgot. The Won must speak tomorrow. I'll be chewing an entire roll of aluminum foil, first.

And my speech tomorrow will be, uhhhh - guaranteed to, uhhh...stimulate!

Posted by: Teh One at August 28, 2009 08:28 PM (DrB2V)

107 I gotcha Tami. It's just the first time in weeks I've had an entire large screen TV to myself, and I don't know what to do with it. Weird, not having the men around.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at August 28, 2009 08:29 PM (UOM48)

108 91

The argument they used against that was that tax cuts would "only go to pay off debt", rather than stimulating the economy through increasing spending.

Which is a stupid argument, primarily because if the debt costs 9%/year (which is about a good approximation of what consumer debt costs) and the only spending or investing opportunities available to the person getting the tax cut are not worth that much, i.e. you can't find any investments paying more than 9% and the value of any goods you could purchase immediately with your tax cut was not worth continued 9% payments on the debt you didn't pay down, paying off the debt IS the most efficient allocation of resources. For those with no debt, a tax cut may or may not have been spent, depending on their perception of future opportunities, i.e. it may have made more sense for someone in, say, the residential construction industry, to save any tax cuts due to the chance of being laid off.

The whole debate on the mix of tax cuts vs. spending was conducted at a completely superficial level by the political class. In other news, water is wet.

Posted by: BS, Inc. at August 28, 2009 08:29 PM (6inE/)

109 And the government would not be able to provide anything but the most basic public services. We would no longer be a great power (or even a mediocre one), and the social safety net would evaporate," tax policy expert and Syracuse University professor Len Burman wrote in a recent op-ed cheerfully titled "Catastrophic Budget Failure."

When they say basic services do they mean just what the federal government is supposed to provide and not cradle to grave welfare and social services? I mean if it can bankrupt the welfare state it might not be a bad thing. But knowing Barry he'd wipe out the DoD budget so Peggy Joseph can sit on her lazy ass and live off of tax payers.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 28, 2009 08:29 PM (ovPiF)

110 All they can do in 2010 is stonewall subsequent spending.

Exactly, except this time they'd have to avoid f-ing it up like Newt did in '95.

Posted by: rockhead at August 28, 2009 08:29 PM (RykTt)

111 The question isn't how much spending can be avoided, since the majority of it cannot be at this point. The real question is how to inspire or effect the sort of shift in understanding (on the part of the voting citizen as well as the leaders they elect) that discourages future spending, works to pay off what has already been heaped on, and-gasp-seeks to cut government spending and programs.

Speeding up the dawning of that understanding is even more important than making sure a bunch of R's get elected, at any cost, in 2010.

Posted by: Fortunate Son at August 28, 2009 08:29 PM (FaLC9)

112 You write this column like some omnipotent (god that gets easier to write as you get older) power is just going to steamroll 100 million trailer park-ites, plus some indignant car dealership owners and whateever's left of the middle class.

Posted by: pc at August 28, 2009 08:29 PM (crDIp)

113 All those decaying bridges on the verge of collapse are being ignored in favor of "easy" repaving projects handing out $$$ to cronies and constituencies elsewhere.

ftfy

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 28, 2009 08:29 PM (doeSo)

114

Yeah, this is too stupid to change. Revel in its ignorance and thank whatever deity you worship that you're not this fucking stupid.

now thats some funny shit right there

Posted by: joey biden at August 28, 2009 08:30 PM (RF20n)

115 Is Dum Dum really arguing that he doesn't know how to tell Obama apart from Bush?

Um, OK, Dum Dum, here's how: Obama overspends just like Bush did, but times ten, so you'll have to measure. Think of Obama, fiscally, as a giant George Bush. And it's good to see you're figuring that out.

Posted by: Thumb Tax at August 28, 2009 08:32 PM (nTM50)

116
yes, that's why I've been suggesting we target a new generation of Reagan Democrats. The ones who are noticing the shovel-ready projects were all bullshit by Obama are the tradesmen. The construction industry's unmeplyment rate is probably the worst (sector) in the nation.

Posted by: His Holiness Tweet Paul II at August 28, 2009 08:32 PM (9Pqb0)

117

Hats off to whomever is editing dum-dum's posts, you are on a roll.

Too bad the little boy stormed off yet again, though I'm sure he'll be back tomorrow to remind all of us to stay classy about Ted Kennedy.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at August 28, 2009 08:32 PM (RZ8pf)

118
And you're right about it being stupid just to hand over $$ to states. The states used it stupidly -- extended unemployment benefits and other stupid shit, for example.

And don't even get me started on how they spent the money in New York state!

Posted by: His Holiness Tweet Paul II at August 28, 2009 08:34 PM (iD12c)

119 OT: listening to the radio and there's a segment about some CBS reporter getting blowed up by in IED in Afghanistan. Now why is this commie shitball more or less important than any of the troops serving over there that kid wounded by roadside bombs?

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 28, 2009 08:34 PM (doeSo)

120 Well, fuck me running, I was really hoping there would at least be a little bit of a tropical storm over the Vineyard this weekend. Not that I would hope it would mess up Duh Won and Meanchelle's weekend. Or anything. And bonus points for screwing up the drunk, drugged out Kennedy Kids hanging out and partaaying hard at Teh Compound. Yeah, that crew is "grieving" all right. Uncle Ted taught them well.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at August 28, 2009 08:36 PM (UOM48)

121 But... but... Susan Roesgen,/b> said we're ALL going to get tax cuts and only anti-CNN people have anything to be angry about!

You don't mean... the little scrunt lied, do you??

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 28, 2009 08:39 PM (kzhuA)

122 Damn - sorry about messing up the tags...

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 28, 2009 08:39 PM (kzhuA)

123 Why it's almost like the president had no experience or qualifications for the job.

Posted by: RicardoVerde at August 28, 2009 08:40 PM (PBTsv)

124 The nice thing about Hawking is that he already has quite a lot of experience with blackholes. (The deficit, Obama not so much.)

And yes, I know...racist.

Posted by: ECM at August 28, 2009 08:41 PM (q3V+C)

125 123 Why it's almost like the president had no experience or qualifications for the job.

Sheet, mang -- I could've done better.

Posted by: Tony Montana at August 28, 2009 08:43 PM (DrB2V)

126 And bonus points for screwing up the drunk, drugged out Kennedy Kids hanging out and partaaying hard at Teh Compound. Yeah, that crew is "grieving" all right. Uncle Ted taught them well.

I have no doubt that they have already convinced themselves that "He would have wanted it that way..."

Posted by: TXMarko at August 28, 2009 08:43 PM (vGYqw)

127 12 OT Glad ace is getting ad revenue and all but do we have to have a picture of Zero on every post!!!!

I got a pageful of SallieMae free college money ads. Blech.

Posted by: ProudinNC at August 28, 2009 08:44 PM (Edv29)

128 Things like repaving are really just routine maintenance too -- i.e. something that should be part of a state's normal budgeting process every year.

In effect, what the states have done is offset their general fund shortfalls and simply keep doing whatever maintenance they would have had to do otherwise, only this time using fed money. The whole "shovel ready" thing is largely a scam.

Prudent state legislatures (ha, ha, ha) would have been budgeting all along for things like bridge replacements rather than treating them as some sort of exceptional expenses, because even the best built bridges don't last forever unless it was the Romans who built them to begin with ;-> The Romans put in some seriously sturdy shit that's lasted 2000 years.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 28, 2009 08:45 PM (jPJan)

129 In effect, what the states have done is offset their general fund shortfalls and simply keep doing whatever maintenance they would have had to do otherwise, only this time using fed money.

Exactly so. This isn't even a true stimulus, its a payoff to Democratic states who've overspent their own revenues.

Posted by: toby928 at August 28, 2009 08:48 PM (PD1tk)

130 Erah, erah, ERAH -- I'm ah, not evan gone for a day and you morans ah trahshing me eah -- thaht's ENAUGH I SAY!

Posted by: Right Dead Ted at August 28, 2009 08:49 PM (DrB2V)

131 128 Fitting you say that since the US is going the way of Rome...

Posted by: steevy at August 28, 2009 08:50 PM (RFgwj)

132
Son of a Bitch! I haven't even read anything yet, and I'm F'n Pissed. I don't even WANT to know how many more worthless Scumbag's I'm going to end up carrying on my back after this.

[hands tremble, forehead sweats, a tear rolls down face]

But, I gonna read it, and I'm sure I'll respond. Everyone prepare for an extreme rant coming in 10......9.........7.........I meant 8

[head is thrown back, bottle of Scotch goes dry, and eyes begin to focus]
I

Posted by: Jimi at August 28, 2009 08:51 PM (JxCkV)

133

Next position will be consulting set up as an LLC (with a lot more opportunity for expense and writeoffs) instead of salary + bonuses + options (all ordinary income). Hourly and salaried folks will be totally screwed.

Posted by: Huckleberry at August 28, 2009 08:52 PM (F71c5)

134

#73 Purple Avenger:

I took the politics test. Apparently I'm 43% social moderate and 73% fiscal conservative. It says I have a highly developed sense of right and wrong and believe in economic fairness, i.e. a Capitalist.

Wow. I'm on the left side of the top of the chart and you're on the right side of the top of the chart.

What does that mean? Do I have to kill myself.

Posted by: Jaimo at August 28, 2009 08:52 PM (sNXj2)

135

I also think he not only is willing to be a 1-termer, he fully intended it.

What he didn't tell us is how long that term will be. I'm thinking the over/under is about 45 years.

Posted by: Truman North at August 28, 2009 08:54 PM (XH/G8)

136 The MSM knew full well that Obambi's no-middle-class-tax-increase promises were BS, especially as the economy tanked before the election. They also knew they were the lies that were necessary to get him elected, so they went along with it. Now that the election is safely won they can play "fearless truthtellers."

Posted by: JPS at August 28, 2009 08:57 PM (V5inu)

137 I guess on the bright side, since I don't have a job, I won't be paying any of these taxes.

Better get working on my cardboard sign and staking a claim under an overpass.

Posted by: Sgt. Rock at August 28, 2009 09:00 PM (RmFRH)

138
Do you realize you are eligible for a $400 credit?

Did you know that the State of Lincoln gets $50 billion out of the stimulus?

Posted by: Susan Roesgen at August 28, 2009 09:02 PM (kzhuA)

139
Thank God!

I thought I was going to end up reading that Obama Lied and our Taxes were gonna go up...........Wait!.................Waaaah?............

[eye roll back in head, blood trickles from forehead]

Posted by: Jimi at August 28, 2009 09:02 PM (JxCkV)

140

Redskins and Pats game is now on just in case any of you morons wanted to see Brady get planted a few feet beneath Fed Ex Field. Posted by: Blazer

Ooo! OOoo! Wanna see! Wanna see!

Sorry that we couldn't accommodate your request.

Posted by: The Patriots' O-Line at August 28, 2009 09:03 PM (XH/G8)

141 Buckle up kiddies, it's gonna be a bumpy ride.

Posted by: Bette Davis Stalin at August 28, 2009 09:05 PM (AoS9J)

142 #112 Posted by: pc

Do you offer a decoder ring for that post?

Posted by: DR. Carlo Lombardi at August 28, 2009 09:07 PM (tFnsY)

143

I hear someone on almost every thread cough up that old hoary chestnut that this guy is fully prepared, and committed to, being a one-term president.

What in history, or this man's personal background, makes you think he's ever going to give up power?

Posted by: Truman North at August 28, 2009 09:08 PM (XH/G8)

144 140 I hate the Pats myself but I've heard that Brady is a conservative who may run for office in the future.....

Posted by: steevy at August 28, 2009 09:08 PM (RFgwj)

145 Stimulus spending is like owning a car repair shop, and buying everyone in your neighborhood a new vehicle in the hopes that they bring it to you when they need it fixed.

Posted by: Racism Train! at August 28, 2009 09:09 PM (ZxeUE)

146

Hey guys, I'm sure it's there somewhere, but I couldn't find it in the thread. Has PA told us what he is with regards to his political outlook?

Purple Avenger, have you told us?

Posted by: Truman North at August 28, 2009 09:09 PM (XH/G8)

147 143 The next step up would be King of the World??

Posted by: steevy at August 28, 2009 09:09 PM (RFgwj)

148 138
Do you realize you are eligible for a $400 credit?
Did you know that the State of Lincoln gets $50 billion out of the stimulus?
Posted by: Susan Roesgen at August 28, 2009 09:02 PM Susan, did you realize you blew me without a condom?

Posted by: TexasJew at August 28, 2009 09:10 PM (aUsM0)

149 It's cute how Dum-Dum is still trying to convince himself, all evidence, projections, and common sense to the contrary, that dreamy Odipshit will balance the budget by 2012.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 28, 2009 09:10 PM (MPTgc)

150

Your true political self:

You are a
Social Conservative
(35% permissive)

and an...
Economic Conservative
(65% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Republican

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at August 28, 2009 09:11 PM (H7Rlw)

151 >>The MSM knew full well that Obambi's no-middle-class-tax-increase promises were BS, especially as the economy tanked before the election. They also knew they were the lies that were necessary to get him elected, so they went along with it. <<

And how would the MSM know that? Most media people are as clueless and as bad at math as President Toonces and his Toonces Posse. If they understood anything about economics or even fundamental mathematics, they wouldn't be journalists. The MSM simply believes what it wants to believe as long as it fits their Pretend World View.

Posted by: SlaveDog at August 28, 2009 09:11 PM (LDTnn)

152 73 - nonsense. I've seen how you were categorized in Dum-Dum's Official Field Guide to AoS.

And we all know how keenly perceptive Dum-Dum is.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 28, 2009 09:12 PM (MPTgc)

153 148 138
"Do you realize you are eligible for a $400 credit?
Did you know that the State of Lincoln gets $50 billion out of the stimulus?"
Posted by: Susan Roesgen at August 28, 2009 09:02 PM

Susan, did you realize you blew me without a condom?
Posted by: TexasJew at August 28, 2009 09:10 PM (aUsM0)

That's really tough to swallow.

Posted by: Susan Roesgen at August 28, 2009 09:12 PM (kzhuA)

154 link, Jim?

Posted by: Truman North at August 28, 2009 09:13 PM (XH/G8)

155

131 128 Fitting you say that since the US is going the way of Rome...

At least the Roman money was worth something...

Posted by: TexasJew at August 28, 2009 09:13 PM (aUsM0)

156

Did I tell you about the new, fresh lilac scented, Zyclon B?

Posted by: Ezekiel Emanuel at August 28, 2009 09:14 PM (7+pP9)

157

I hate the Pats myself but I've heard that Brady is a conservative who may run for office in the future.....

Yep, most guys who marry uber-liberal models would certainly run on an ultra conservative platform.

Posted by: Blazer at August 28, 2009 09:15 PM (AoS9J)

158 155 Towards the end they were making coinage out of lead......

Posted by: steevy at August 28, 2009 09:15 PM (RFgwj)

159

That's really tough to swallow.

Posted by: Susan Roesgen at August 28, 2009 09:12 PM

Obama said it was OK, 'cause I'm circumsized.

Posted by: TexasJew at August 28, 2009 09:15 PM (aUsM0)

160 You are a

Social Moderate
(56% permissive)

and an...

Economic Conservative
(71% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Capitalist

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

This is me & I'm a bit surprised by the social moderate business. I wonder if those who took this a year ago would have the same results if they took it again today?

Posted by: Trish at August 28, 2009 09:16 PM (0U5Kd)

161 159
"That's really tough to swallow."

Posted by: Susan Roesgen at August 28, 2009 09:12 PM

Obama said it was OK, 'cause I'm circumsized.

Posted by: TexasJew at August 28, 2009 09:15 PM (aUsM0)

Well, that sure gives me something to chew on...

Posted by: Susan Roesgen at August 28, 2009 09:18 PM (kzhuA)

162

I hate the Pats myself but I've heard that Brady is a conservative who may run for office in the future.....

Yep, most guys who marry uber-liberal models would certainly run on an ultra conservative platform.

I am perhaps Tom Brady's #1 fan. I'm not gay, but I'd totally marry him. I mean, I'd switch and marry him and be his friggin wife.

If he runs for office, he'll be a California congressman of little importance. A squishy RINO who's more interested in making and keeping friends than advancing any sort of agenda. He's very smart, very charismatic, a good study, a great publioc speaker, he looks handsome... all the things that seem to qualify someone for higher office.

But... politically, he's about the same as McCain.

Here's to hoping he decides to be a sportscaster or college coach arfter he retired with nine or ten Super Bowl championships and every passing record in existence.

Posted by: Truman North at August 28, 2009 09:18 PM (XH/G8)

163 @ 144 I hate the Pats myself but I've heard that Brady is a conservative who may run for office in the future.....

I hadn't heard that -- I thought Brady was on the mushy left side of things. But then, I'm going on heresay.

I do know that, as long as we're talking politics and football, thanks to the fuckheadedness of Pat Bowlen, my Broncos now have a sub-par quarterback in Kyle Orton who IS a mushy lefty. This after giving the heave-ho to Shanahan who is a full-blown conservative (I've heard him on local talk shows). Oh well.

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at August 28, 2009 09:21 PM (voIlD)

164 I'd totally marry him. I mean, I'd switch and marry him and be his friggin wife.

Hey Truman, you know how I know you're gay?

Anyway, Brady's going to be a bald representative, whatever happens.

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 28, 2009 09:21 PM (doeSo)

165

Yea, Trish I'm 43% Social 71% Economic Capitalist.

The link is

www.okcupid.com/politics

Posted by: Jaimo at August 28, 2009 09:22 PM (sNXj2)

166

ok, I suck at this - my link isn't working. I've never done this before.

Sounds like the first date with the Mr.

Let's try again.

http://www.okcupid.com/politics

Posted by: Jaimo at August 28, 2009 09:24 PM (sNXj2)

167 154 link, Jim?

Posted by: Truman North at August 28, 2009 09:13 PM (XH/G8

http://www.okcupid.com/politics

Here ya go!

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at August 28, 2009 09:24 PM (H7Rlw)

168 Thanks Jim. At least I know how to do it for next time.

Posted by: Jaimo at August 28, 2009 09:25 PM (sNXj2)

169 If Republicans take back the House in 2010, how much of the debt pile-up can be avoided?
Posted by: Winston Smith

Damned near all of it if they have the balls and a clear majority.

If they can retroactively tax people ( which they have done before ), they can abrogate contracts to spend another dime, and start clawing back money out of ACORN and Chicago-goon bank accounts.

Even if they only get a bare majority, and can't beat a filibuster, the dems can't make them authorize any more spending. Just laugh and arrange a federal shutdown.

Posted by: Kristopher at August 28, 2009 09:26 PM (Jjzb5)

170

What in history, or this man's personal background, makes you think he's ever going to give up power?

Posted by: Truman North at August 28, 2009 09:08 PM (XH/G

He's never finished anything he's started. He doesn't stick around to take the blame.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 28, 2009 09:27 PM (FWbHu)

171 Hi Jaimo! I found a reserved a place for all of us moron DC protestors on 9/12. I'll send info later.

Posted by: Trish at August 28, 2009 09:27 PM (0U5Kd)

172 George Orwell: "CNN... delivering last year's news today."

As a CNN ad executive, you're fired!

As an AoSHQ moron, yeah baby!

Posted by: Anonymous'Powers'Drivel at August 28, 2009 09:28 PM (JamGx)

173

ty Jaimo dear

Your true political self:

You are a
Social Conservative
(33% permissive)

and an...
Economic Conservative
(90% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Strong Republican

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

I really hate how they conflate "republican" with "conservative"... other than that, I agree with their assessment. I've become more extreme in my views (by the reckoning of conventional wisdom- I think I've become more of an Originalist) since I last took that test, two years ago next month.

Posted by: Truman North at August 28, 2009 09:28 PM (XH/G8)

174

John McCain is on TV telling everyone what a great guy Ted Kennedy was.

Is there any leftwing Democrat ass he won't suck?

I would love to find the genius in the RNC who thought McCains's nomination was a great idea and geld the SOB.

Shul was awesone, by the way...

Posted by: TexasJew at August 28, 2009 09:28 PM (aUsM0)

175

Tom Gaydy had his shoulder injured on the last play.

Sweet.

Posted by: Blazer at August 28, 2009 09:30 PM (AoS9J)

176

Thanks Trish, I'll have to meet up with you guys at some point during the day. I joined a Patriot Alliance group this past week and they are meeting together at Freedom Plaza. I was going to go straight to the Capitol but oh well.

I just happened to run across an acquaintance of mine and found out he's a Constitutionalist and belonged to this group, so I'm included in their activities in DC.

Still want to have dinner and meet up with you guys though. We'll talk.

Thanks.

Posted by: Jaimo at August 28, 2009 09:30 PM (sNXj2)

177

171 Hi Jaimo! I found a reserved a place for all of us moron DC protestors on 9/12. I'll send info later.

please let me know how to subscribe to your newsletter- looks like I have a very good shot of being there, too. Cheap enough. Got a line on a flight, a room for 9.11 and a car for $225... figure I can make the day for $300 if I'm niggardly.

Posted by: Truman North at August 28, 2009 09:31 PM (XH/G8)

178 You are a
Social Liberal
;">(61% permissive)
and an...
Economic Conservative
;">(81% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Capitalist

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at August 28, 2009 09:31 PM (ZxeUE)

179 168 Thanks Jim. At least I know how to do it for next time.

Posted by: Jaimo at August 28, 2009 09:25 PM (sNXj2)

No problemo!

Besides, the comments section of this board absolutely suck, in that it's way more difficult than it should be; I'm talking right out of 1997. Maybe it's some kind of patience test to post here.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at August 28, 2009 09:32 PM (H7Rlw)

180 Maybe it's some kind of patience test to post here.

Builds character.

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 28, 2009 09:33 PM (doeSo)

181 Truman, I always thought I was more a moderate Republican, never thought I was a Capitalist though. I kind of thought I was moving more toward the libertarian, however maybe I was a Republican and Capitalist is the next step toward getting to the other side of the chart, so maybe I have changed, just a little slower than I thought.

Posted by: Jaimo at August 28, 2009 09:34 PM (sNXj2)

182 180 Maybe it's some kind of patience test to post here.

Builds character.

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 28, 2009 09:33 PM (doeSo)

Obviously a futile gesture in my case!

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at August 28, 2009 09:34 PM (H7Rlw)

183 @ 166 Test classified me as a libertarian, which is pretty close, but I don't consider myself a dogmatic, capital L Libertarian.

I did have problems with some of the questions being too vague and misleading. For instance, the question about being "Too patriotic" -- well, I'd need to know their definition of "patriotic" and what constitutes excess. That kinda thing.

Also, I didn't notice too many questions about foreign policy/military matters.

But oh well.

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at August 28, 2009 09:34 PM (voIlD)

184 Not much. All they can do in 2010 is stonewall subsequent spending. There won't be the juice to repeal anything and override a presidential veto of the repeal legislation.
Posted by: Purple Avenger

Disagree. There are all sorts of places where continuing authorizations can be blocked. They can even fail to authorize the Treasury's borrowing authority.

Obama gets to blow the money for 2009 and 2010. If we get a clear majority, we can start clawing some of that money back.

Posted by: Kristopher at August 28, 2009 09:34 PM (Jjzb5)

185 Social Liberal(71% permissive) / Economic Conservative(85% permissive)

You are best described as a: Libertarian.

And yes, I strongly agree that 2 consenting adults should be able to duel in some sort of death match.

Posted by: kefka at August 28, 2009 09:35 PM (udoJ3)

186 Purple Avenger: "You'll just pay with money by the pound. ex. two pounds of bills gets you a loaf of bread."

So, under our new currency regime, when you get held up and the mugger asks for dough, you could actually hand over a loaf of bread... just before shooting him?

Eh, could be worse. I mean, he could ask for my underpants which would be bad 'cause that's where the profits really are.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 28, 2009 09:35 PM (JamGx)

187 truman - I'll update the FB post and I'll send a FB message as well. I hope you can make it. For those of you not on FB, I'm sure LauraW will put up the little map thingy as the 12th gets closer that also has my email address.

jaimo - sounds like fun. Freedom Plaza is the place to be and maybe we will run into each other anyway. I wonder how many people they are expecting?

Posted by: Trish at August 28, 2009 09:36 PM (0U5Kd)

188 Is social moderate/fiscal conservative the same as lawful neutral?

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 28, 2009 09:36 PM (doeSo)

189 Social moderate, economic conservative.

Surprise!!!

Next up, Velveeta is orange and the ocean is salty.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 28, 2009 09:36 PM (qoAMF)

190

Truman, Trish and I found each other through Laura W. and the Moron meetup in CT on 9/12.

I'm not sure the best way to get in touch with you without giving my email address here which I don't really want to do.

Ace? how do we do this?

Posted by: Jaimo at August 28, 2009 09:36 PM (sNXj2)

191 I am pissed about this taxes thing. He said he wouldn't do it.

Posted by: Brain Dead at August 28, 2009 09:37 PM (H9yZ/)

192 So with the paying ads, are we completely forbidden from using the 7 words you can't say on radio?

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 28, 2009 09:37 PM (doeSo)

193 Social moderate(50% permissive)
economic conservative(78%)
Capitalist

Posted by: steevy at August 28, 2009 09:37 PM (RFgwj)

194 @ 185 And yes, I strongly agree that 2 consenting adults should be able to duel in some sort of death match.

That's what Pay-Per-View is for.

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at August 28, 2009 09:37 PM (voIlD)

195 Math is so racist. Always telling us that some numbers are somehow bigger than others, forever demanding that the result of either side of the = thingy have to be the same. Always dividing, subtracting. Hateful shouts of "divide by 0 error" when we all know the 0 stands for 0bama. Sarah Palin and her bizarre statement that "a prime number can only be divided by itself and 1" even though NewsWeek, ABC and Geraldo Rivera have thoroughly disproven this.

Posted by: Crusty at August 28, 2009 09:39 PM (qzgbP)

196

Trish, definitely want to meet up, spend a few and have some chow with you and your friends.

Thanks for hooking Truman up. Let me know what his info is too so I can send him my particulars.

Posted by: Jaimo at August 28, 2009 09:39 PM (sNXj2)

197 John McCain is on TV telling everyone what a great guy Ted Kennedy was.

McCain = major douchenozzle

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 28, 2009 09:40 PM (jPJan)

198 You are a
Social Conservative
(26% permissive)

and an...
Economic Conservative
(91% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Strong Republican

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

-Strong Republican - does that make me like Trent Lott or something? I wanted "Capitalist", but wound up with "Pussy"

I thought I was a bit less of a Social Conservative. I would have agreed to the death match thing, if it were like a girl-on-girl thing and I could watch.

In Judaism , typing ot looking at a computer screen on Shabbot is a sin. I hope you know you're all sending me to hell...

Posted by: TexasJew at August 28, 2009 09:41 PM (aUsM0)

199 I think I want to make it to the CT moron meetup.

Posted by: blackrockmarauder at August 28, 2009 09:41 PM (GvgvT)

200 McCain = major douchenozzle

I thought he was a Commander.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 28, 2009 09:41 PM (qoAMF)

201 @194: I always wanted to see Barney Frank and Maxine Waters in a Celebrity Death Match.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 28, 2009 09:42 PM (kzhuA)

202 Strong Republican - does that make me like Trent Lott or something?

Is your hair unmoved by gale force winds?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 28, 2009 09:42 PM (qoAMF)

203 200 "McCain = major douchenozzle"

I thought he was a Commander.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 28, 2009 09:41 PM (qoAMF)

I thought he was a butt plug.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 28, 2009 09:43 PM (kzhuA)

204 I thought he was a Commander.

You might be thinking of Commander Ketchup.

Posted by: kefka at August 28, 2009 09:43 PM (udoJ3)

205 I think I want to make it to the CT moron meetup.

Posted by: blackrockmarauder at August 28, 2009 09:41 PM (GvgvT)

Does the first part of your moniker have anything to do with a road in CT? (I apologize if you've already mentioned this)

Posted by: Tami at August 28, 2009 09:43 PM (VuLos)

206 205 I think I want to make it to the CT moron meetup.

Posted by: blackrockmarauder at August 28, 2009 09:41 PM (GvgvT)

Does the first part of your moniker have anything to do with a road in CT? (I apologize if you've already mentioned this)

Posted by: Tami at August 28, 2009 09:43 PM (VuLos)

I live in BR, Bridgeport.

Posted by: blackrockmarauder at August 28, 2009 09:44 PM (GvgvT)

207 YAY! An Advertiser. Everyone do Ace a favor and click it a few times.

Posted by: Ben at August 28, 2009 09:45 PM (f0I0I)

208 Ah...ok. I'm in Stamford.

Posted by: Tami at August 28, 2009 09:45 PM (VuLos)

209 Hey does anyone remember the new sister blog that Ace had up on the site yesterday? Something like Zag or Zog or blahblah

Posted by: Jaimo at August 28, 2009 09:46 PM (sNXj2)

210 Is the meetup going to be in FFD County?

Posted by: blackrockmarauder at August 28, 2009 09:46 PM (GvgvT)

211 Can't believe Lace Wigs didn't buy a blogad. Rat bastages.

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 28, 2009 09:47 PM (doeSo)

212 198 I get the impression the test is written by lefties...

Posted by: steevy at August 28, 2009 09:47 PM (RFgwj)

213 Another member of the People's Republic of CT. Nice. Hi from Manchester.

Posted by: Jaimo at August 28, 2009 09:47 PM (sNXj2)

214

209

ZOG?

That's my territory!

Posted by: TexasJew at August 28, 2009 09:47 PM (aUsM0)

215

Holy Shitsky! I'm a Libertarian? How accurate is this test?

Anywho, my favorite question in the test:

It should be legal for two consenting adults to challenge each other to a duel and fight a Death Match.

Posted by: ErikW at August 28, 2009 09:48 PM (hKtiw)

216

The $conomist--impartial, liberal, conservative magazine? Not familiar with this one.

Posted by: YoMamma at August 28, 2009 09:48 PM (H2caA)

217 Something like Zag or Zog or blahblah

Posted by: Jaimo at August 28, 2009 09:46 PM (sNXj2)

Zug.com

Posted by: Tami at August 28, 2009 09:48 PM (VuLos)

218

In Judaism , typing ot looking at a computer screen on Shabbot is a sin. I hope you know you're all sending me to hell...

Posted by: TexasJew at August 28, 2009 09:41 PM (aUsM0)

I just talked to God and he said you Jews are going way too far with that whole Shabbot thing. He just meant to pick a day to relax and not get all legal about the concept, thereby defeating the whole point of a relaxing day off. He also says to try the bacon. It makes him feel bad that one of his greates creations is so shunned.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at August 28, 2009 09:49 PM (H7Rlw)

219 216

The $conomist--impartial, liberal, conservative magazine? Not familiar with this one.

Posted by: YoMamma at August 28, 2009 09:48 PM (H2caA)

The only non-partisan news mag out there. It likes the taste of Obama's ass, like another non-partisan I know of...

Posted by: blackrockmarauder at August 28, 2009 09:50 PM (GvgvT)

220

Maybe I'm insane, but I sent money to Peter Schiff to run against Dodd up in CT.

Does that make me a Paulbot running dog?

I'm way the hell out here in West Texas, and the only other moron out here is a large Vinegaroon named Beto.

Posted by: TexasJew at August 28, 2009 09:50 PM (aUsM0)

221 You are a
Social Moderate
;">(41% permissive)

and an...
Economic Conservative
;">(83% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Capitalist

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at August 28, 2009 09:50 PM (I9Jek)

222
You are a Social Liberal(60% permissive)

and an...
Economic Conservative(80% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Pinko Capitalist

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic domination.

Those things never work right for me.

Posted by: SlaveDog at August 28, 2009 09:51 PM (LDTnn)

223 218 Plus the dietary laws were for health reasons.Bacon and shell fish are now safe so the laws should be ignored.

Posted by: steevy at August 28, 2009 09:51 PM (RFgwj)

224 In Judaism , typing ot looking at a computer screen on Shabbot is a sin. I hope you know you're all sending me to hell...

Posted by: TexasJew at August 28, 2009 09:41 PM (aUsM0)

Don't even get me started...

Posted by: Jesus Christ at August 28, 2009 09:51 PM (kzhuA)

225 Zog, Zug, it doesn't matter...this whole post and the comments are all racist anyway.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 28, 2009 09:52 PM (jPJan)

226

"He also says to try the bacon. It makes him feel bad that one of his greatest creations is so shunned."

I can only do turkey bacon, thanks to Rabbi Jimmy Dean of Plainview, Texas

Posted by: TexasJew at August 28, 2009 09:53 PM (aUsM0)

227 So how exactly does a capitalist believe in economic fairness? I mean an actual one, not a GE/Goldman Sachs-type "capitalist".

Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at August 28, 2009 09:53 PM (I9Jek)

228 TexasJew - Jimmy Dean's in Richmond, VA now. Or at least the man himself is.

Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at August 28, 2009 09:54 PM (I9Jek)

229 So how exactly does a capitalist believe in economic fairness?

Easy - the better salesman wins. What's not fair about that?

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 28, 2009 09:54 PM (doeSo)

230 Is the meetup going to be in FFD County?

Posted by: blackrockmarauder at August 28, 2009 09:46 PM (GvgvT)

New Haven county

Posted by: Tami at August 28, 2009 09:54 PM (VuLos)

231 226 Hate to break it to you but turkey bacon AIN'T bacon......

Posted by: steevy at August 28, 2009 09:55 PM (RFgwj)

232 Rabbi Jimmy Dean of Plainview, Texas

Posted by: TexasJew at August 28, 2009 09:53 PM (aUsM0)

THAT was funny!

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at August 28, 2009 09:55 PM (H7Rlw)

233 The whole politics test was pretty bogus. I have two core political beliefs.

1) Leave me the fuck alone.
2) Don't take more than 25% of my money for all your do-gooder bullshit.

If government can't run on 25% of the earnings of a nation, then its time for a new government that can.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 28, 2009 09:55 PM (jPJan)

234 I wanted my test result to be RIGHT WING ZEALOT BITTER BIBLE GUN CLINGER.....

Posted by: steevy at August 28, 2009 09:56 PM (RFgwj)

235 So how exactly does a capitalist believe in economic fairness?

Equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 28, 2009 09:56 PM (MPTgc)

236

BTW, congrats on the new ads, Ace. I always felt a little bad about not being able to hit the tip jar (I'm broke, yo).

Now I can click on an ad like 50 times, right?

Posted by: ErikW at August 28, 2009 09:56 PM (hKtiw)

237

Posted by: blackrockmarauder at August 28, 2009 09:57 PM (GvgvT)

238 233 25% is a bit high.State and Federal combined maybe....

Posted by: steevy at August 28, 2009 09:57 PM (RFgwj)

239

231 226 Hate to break it to you but turkey bacon AIN'T bacon......

My Savior is a Jewish Cardiologist.

Posted by: TexasJew at August 28, 2009 09:57 PM (aUsM0)

240 I've been told math is hard, particularly when lots of zeros and numbers Steven Hawking would be more familiar with are involved.

To be fair, it didn't really take a whole lot of zeros to get here.

It only took one.

Posted by: wiserbud at August 28, 2009 09:59 PM (ac9/Z)

241 turkey bacon AIN'T bacon

Yea, we know. Eat more REAL bacon.

Posted by: The Turkeys at August 28, 2009 09:59 PM (jPJan)

242 Ace do you see the tax rate going up as high as it was during WW II ? Would the current society be able to stand that ? Might we even (gasp) have rationing ?

Posted by: John ryan at August 28, 2009 10:00 PM (1ZaAe)

243 I'm willing to trade 5-10 years off my lifespan in return for enjoying red meat and bacon.The government better kkep their hands off my food!!

Posted by: steevy at August 28, 2009 10:01 PM (RFgwj)

244 There's a similar "political alignment" test over at politicalcompass.org/test. But some of the questions are pretty ambiguous and contain some innately disagreeable premises, so who knows how accurate such shit actually is.

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at August 28, 2009 10:01 PM (voIlD)

245

Jimmuh Dean lives about three miles from me. He whipped out a shotgun on a plebe who dared have his car break down in front of his house on public property.

Jimmy Dean is a douche and his goldigger wife is a known pool boy fucker.

Posted by: Blazer at August 28, 2009 10:01 PM (AoS9J)

246 Yea, we know. Eat more REAL bacon.

Posted by: The Turkeys at August 28, 2009 09:59 PM

Turkey season in Texas starts on October 3rd.

I'm gonna git yo'ass!

Posted by: TexasJew at August 28, 2009 10:02 PM (aUsM0)

247 are we going to see a "read my lips" commercial in 2012? and if we do will ABC and NBC air it

Posted by: Ben at August 28, 2009 10:03 PM (f0I0I)

248 @ 245 Jimmy Dean is a douche and his goldigger wife is a known pool boy fucker.

Any openings for a job as the Dean's pool boy?

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at August 28, 2009 10:03 PM (voIlD)

249 242 Ace do you see the tax rate going up as high as it was during WW II ? Would the current society be able to stand that ? Might we even (gasp) have rationing ?

Posted by: John ryan at August 28, 2009 10:00 PM (1ZaAe)

As an American, I think that John ryan is right!!!

Posted by: BRIC at August 28, 2009 10:04 PM (GvgvT)

250 245

Jimmuh Dean lives about three miles from me. He whipped out a shotgun on a plebe who dared have his car break down in front of his house on public property.Posted by: Blazer at August 28, 2009 10:01 PM

I told you he was from Plainview, Texas!

And I really enjoyed being a poolboy in a wealthy neighborhood with a lot of hot housewives.

Cleaned a lot of clogged-up drains that summer..

Posted by: TexasJew at August 28, 2009 10:06 PM (aUsM0)

251 As an American AND a concerned conservative Christian, that is

Posted by: BRIC at August 28, 2009 10:06 PM (GvgvT)

252 Damn this country has gone straight down the fucking shitter. They broke this country in fucking two.

Posted by: mossback at August 28, 2009 10:07 PM (GfYt/)

253 The Teddy thing is still droning on?

Holy shit. Make it stop.

Posted by: Pecos Bill at August 28, 2009 10:07 PM (8WOM0)

254

Sorry for the OT but a buddy tipped me to the following site today and it's some funny, funny shit.

http://textsfromlastnight.com/

Posted by: ErikW at August 28, 2009 10:08 PM (hKtiw)

255 Ace has sold out to the Gabriel Method

Posted by: t-bone at August 28, 2009 10:08 PM (LvIqj)

256 caroline ya know kennedy is ya know speaking

Posted by: Ben at August 28, 2009 10:08 PM (f0I0I)

257 BTW..

Hats off to the troll buster who knew what to edited and what to leave alone on Dum Dum's postings.

Posted by: Dave C at August 28, 2009 10:09 PM (La0Tt)

258 did Patches speak?

I was in and out of the room, flipping channels..

Posted by: Dave C at August 28, 2009 10:10 PM (La0Tt)

259 You are a
Social Liberal
;">(68% permissive)

and an...
Economic Conservative
;">(98% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Capitalist

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

The wording of these questions was pretty funny, at least after a great deal of rum. Loggers logging logs? Books with plans for awesome bombs?

I don't really understand why "Capitalist" and "Libertarian" are two separate ideologies, or why I'm frighteningly close to the Unabomber.

Posted by: Fortunate Son at August 28, 2009 10:10 PM (FaLC9)

260 In '45, the tax rate was 94% for those making over $200,000. As recent as '80, it was 70% for those making over $215,000. The thing is, because of inflation, those in '80 were more than likely hit much harder than those in '45, plus in '45 there weren't that many people making that kind of money.

All of that being said, Obama will simply monetize our debt and we will end up being the Weirmar Republic. No rationing, just milk that costs $1,000,000,000 a half gallon.

Thanks 52%

Posted by: shibumi at August 28, 2009 10:11 PM (OKZrE)

261 258 was supposed to be the Teddy thread..

Posted by: Dave C at August 28, 2009 10:12 PM (La0Tt)

262 255 Ace has sold out to the Gabriel Method

I don't see the ads.

Is that like Lamaze?

Or is it a way to make your ADD/ADHD child behave?

Posted by: shibumi at August 28, 2009 10:12 PM (OKZrE)

263 Apropos of nothing, Dennis Haysbert now has a beard on the All-State ads. It looks terrible.

This is not the President Palmer I have known.

Posted by: toby928 at August 28, 2009 10:13 PM (PD1tk)

264 This is great news.

I have not been sleeping well knowing my taxes were way too low to sustain vital services.

Now I may rest in peace.

Posted by: eman at August 28, 2009 10:13 PM (AKepb)

265

#244 political compass test.

Well I'm Economic Left/Right 3.88

and Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -0.72

Which means 4 right of center in purple square below center line.

What's that mean?

Posted by: Jaimo at August 28, 2009 10:14 PM (sNXj2)

266 Blazer-I used to go to the same doctor's office as Dean. I also used to run into him at Carlton's on Rt. 5 (before it burned down). Everytime I saw him, I think he was drunk.

Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at August 28, 2009 10:15 PM (I9Jek)

267

I'm a Centrist -- Social Moderate and Economic Conservative (43 and 81 percents permissivity rates, whatever that means).

That tidbit of info plus my taxes going through the roof -- tell me something I don't already know.

Posted by: unknown jane at August 28, 2009 10:15 PM (EpmMs)

268 Now all the black folks at the Teddy Memorial are singing "When Irish Eyes are Smiling".

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Posted by: SlaveDog at August 28, 2009 10:16 PM (LDTnn)

269 @ 263 Apropos of nothing, Dennis Haysbert now has a beard on the All-State ads. It looks terrible.

Is it the same as his Pedro Serrano beard in Major League? Maybe he needs to shave his noggin again.

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at August 28, 2009 10:16 PM (voIlD)

270 Well fuck it if inflation is going to hit hard buy a fucking house now then pay it off in three months. Just eat dirt and card board.

Posted by: mossback at August 28, 2009 10:16 PM (GfYt/)

271 Obvious first major step -- "means tested" social security which WOULD FLY as a "soak the rich" populist deal. What do millionaires need with a few thousand extra bucks a month anyway?

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 28, 2009 07:35 PM (jPJan)

My dad is already getting screwed on that deal. He grew up during the depression so he planned for his retirement. They tax his SS, plus he can't even draw full SS because he's a notch baby. But they're sure trying to give it to illegals.

Posted by: Bill R. at August 28, 2009 10:17 PM (EhlQq)

272 What's that mean?

That means you need the blue pill.

Posted by: ObamaCare at August 28, 2009 10:17 PM (jPJan)

273 #273 aawww shit

Posted by: Jaimo at August 28, 2009 10:18 PM (sNXj2)

274

Oy, now Ace has a SALLIE MAE ad running!

That's like that Michelle Obama porcelin doll ad they've had on HA.

Conundrum: should I click it to help Ace, or will I just be aiding the Dark Side?

Posted by: TexasJew at August 28, 2009 10:19 PM (aUsM0)

275 Simsbury native here...but I live on the Carolina coast.

BIG Brady fan!

You are a
Social Conservative
;">(33% permissive)

and an...
Economic Conservative
;">(78% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Republican

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

Posted by: Winston Smith at August 28, 2009 10:20 PM (MFbfZ)

276 Just eat dirt and card board.

The Russians at Stalingrad ate leaves mixed with drain oil. Mmmm tree leaves.

Posted by: ObamaCare at August 28, 2009 10:21 PM (jPJan)

277 Oh my God, they had a Michelle Obama porcelain doll on HA? That's gross. I wonder if it has a special glass eye that stares off in the other direction to make it look real?

Posted by: Jaimo at August 28, 2009 10:21 PM (sNXj2)

278 Is it the same as his Pedro Serrano beard in Major League?

Yes. I knew I had seen that before. He needs to be offering chickens to Jo-Boo.

Posted by: toby928 at August 28, 2009 10:24 PM (PD1tk)

279 266 Blazer-I used to go to the same doctor's office as Dean. I also used to run into him at Carlton's on Rt. 5 (before it burned down). Everytime I saw him, I think he was drunk.Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at August 28, 2009 10:15 PM That's symptomatic of a lifetime exposure to fatty pork products and also cosmic retribution for first introducing America to those damn Muppets on his old TV show back in the early 60's.

Posted by: TexasJew at August 28, 2009 10:25 PM (aUsM0)

280 ♪ When Irish eyes are bloodshot
It must be a Kennedy....♪

Posted by: Choir at Ted's Service at August 28, 2009 10:26 PM (ac9/Z)

281 Did someone say Michelle Doll?

http://tinyurl.com/m574s9

Posted by: Winston Smith at August 28, 2009 10:28 PM (MFbfZ)

282 That Michelle doll seems to be missing the long pins to stick in it. Are they extra?

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 28, 2009 10:29 PM (jPJan)

283 I think someone already stuck a pin in it.

The ass end is suspiciously deflated.

Posted by: Winston Smith at August 28, 2009 10:30 PM (MFbfZ)

284 That looks nothing like Michelle O. Where's the scowl?

Posted by: madamex at August 28, 2009 10:33 PM (fjIDy)

285 Michelle Obama's Self-Image:

http://tinyurl.com/2nr868

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 28, 2009 10:33 PM (kzhuA)

286 That was one ugly ass inaugural dress. My junior prom dress in 1979 looked better than that.

Posted by: Jaimo at August 28, 2009 10:35 PM (sNXj2)

287 286 That was one ugly ass inaugural dress. My junior prom dress in 1979 looked better than that.
Posted by: Jaimo at August 28, 2009 10:35 PM (sNXj2)

Hell, so did my rental polyester Prom Tuxedo.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 28, 2009 10:36 PM (kzhuA)

288

Cerrano: Bats, they are sick. I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. I ask Jobu to come, take fear from bats. I offer him cigar, rum. He will come.

Harris: You know you might think about taking Jesus Christ as your savior instead of fooling around with all this stuff.

Dorn: Shit, Harris.

Cerrano: Jesus, I like him very much, but he no help with curveball.

Harris: You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?

Posted by: ErikW at August 28, 2009 10:37 PM (hKtiw)

289

My memory sucks but who was that CNN scrunt that was yelling at Tea party people saying "Obama promised not to raise your taxes."? Someone needs to get her on the phone.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at August 28, 2009 10:37 PM (zFCeL)

290

Extending unemployment benefits has always been a pet peeve of mine. I have known too many folks who simply cannot find a job (That they report) untill unemployment runs out. Nature provides us with pain avoidence logic. Government takes it away, ie burn the shit out of yourself and you quit carrying scalding hot coffee in your lap. Win a $180,000 lawsuit and assholes start finding rats in cans of soda, and by finding I mean putting rats in soda. Getting hungry is great incentive to find a job. Oodles of government bennies means setting in a government paid apartment, getting fat on food stamps, squirting out babies and husbands being no longer part of the family unit.

Don't get me wrong, I am a very charitable guy and there are exceptions to all the aformentioned afflictions but this has been the overall effect of these programs on America

Posted by: Dan at August 28, 2009 10:38 PM (qfb86)

291 Hell, so did my rental polyester Prom Tuxedo.

Nothing looks as bad in retrospect as my blue crushed velvet one.

Posted by: toby928 at August 28, 2009 10:38 PM (PD1tk)

292 268 Now all the black folks at the Teddy Memorial are singing "When Irish Eyes are Smiling".

I was watching the funeral and they all looked so lovely, talked about sailing, have wonderful lives and go to wonderful parties. Non of them produce anything or have dirty hands. 85% of them work for me. I opened my check today, 1200 to them and 3000 for me and I don't go sailing or go to wonderful parties. None of this makes sense.

Posted by: mary at August 28, 2009 10:40 PM (fjIDy)

293

Now all the black folks at the Teddy Memorial are singing "When Irish Eyes are Smiling".

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Oh, they can sing it, but they can't truly understand it. It's a white thing.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 28, 2009 10:40 PM (P33XN)

294

291 Hell, so did my rental polyester Prom Tuxedo.

Nothing looks as bad in retrospect as my blue crushed velvet one.

____________________________________________

My prom tux in 1976 was in technicolor.

Posted by: ICBM at August 28, 2009 10:43 PM (YLUZG)

295 Wow. Some of you guys are ooooold.

I keed, I keed.

Posted by: african chick at August 28, 2009 10:48 PM (2h2KZ)

296 I tied an onion to my belt. Which was the style at the time...

Posted by: grampa toby928 at August 28, 2009 10:52 PM (PD1tk)

297

My prom story:

All the pictures and bullshit are done, so I'm climbing into the car with my date to set off for the evening. Said car is loaded with alcohol, and some dumbass propped a bottle of schnapps up against the door. When I opened it, the bottle tumbles into my parents' driveway and goes off like a bomb. Everyone in the car, including me, freaks out. I just tell them to drive away and spend the rest of the night worrying about the ass kicking I'm in for when I get home. Imagine my surprise when I return home to find the bottle completely cleaned up. Not a word was said. No one ever mentioned it. I guess they decided to just give me a pass on it, surprising how anti-alcohol my parents were.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 28, 2009 10:57 PM (P33XN)

298

294 / 291...

Mine too in '75 '76 - big black borders on the lapels. Some kinda fashion. Shadooby.

Posted by: Huckleberry at August 28, 2009 10:58 PM (F71c5)

299 Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(60% permissive)

and an...

Economic Conservative
(88% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Capitalist

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

Posted by: iamfelix at August 28, 2009 10:59 PM (/F3+H)

300 Canada will welcome all of our poor cousins to a low tax rate country. We could use all the help we can get to keep our current conservitives in power and build this country into a real first world place.

Posted by: Ken at August 28, 2009 11:10 PM (YoBFV)

301 290

Don't get me wrong, I am a very charitable guy and there are exceptions to all the aformentioned afflictions but this has been the overall effect of these programs on America

I know people who have been collecting unemployment regularly since '80 under the "lack of work" guidelines. Basically, they use their part time job to supplement their unemployment income. It's become a lifestyle that will end when they get their gold watch from the government at 62. These are also the same people who are frothing for Obamacare. Even though the taxpayers support them, they have houses, and boats, and motorcycles and newer computers than I do, yet they cannot "afford" health insurance.

Posted by: shibumi at August 28, 2009 11:12 PM (OKZrE)

302 MYTH: "Taxes are going up and they're going up for a lot more people than those making more than $250,000. Why? Math."

FACT: Math is a very difficult subject, and one that is full of theorems and theories. The connection of this obscure field of academic inquiry to the "real world" is hazy and largely unknowable. The President has said that he will not raise taxes for those making over $250,000. This fact is echoed by the head of the conservative economic watchdog group Progressives for Economic Justice and Social Change, who says the Presidents plans are entirely reasonable and have been taken out of context by "math extremists." Despite these facts, many Americans still believe the persistent math myth.

Posted by: The Associated Press at August 28, 2009 11:15 PM (PDt+D)

303

271 Bill R. he can't even draw full SS because he's a notch baby. But they're sure trying to give it to illegals.

I hope he's not wasting money by sending it to organizations promising to fix the notch. He was born between 1917 and 1921? That was the notch.

Posted by: Publicserf at August 28, 2009 11:45 PM (J+bl5)

304 5 Off the grid, people, while there's still time!

I received my Socialist InSecurity "earnings statement" last week...

The year my "earned income" peaked was 1992- and I earned $21.6K that year!

My annual SS earnings since 2000
2000 $5400

Posted by: Fletch at August 28, 2009 11:54 PM (vkUYa)

305 The states are going to complain about the amount of money the federal government is taking. Eventually they will want more of the tax money for themselves and more people will agree with that since they get more services that directly affect them on a daily basis from their cities and states. People are going to start to think the Federal Government is too big. Always wonder about the perks federal workers receive. The other day Fox had someone on who said that they don't participate in Social Security, they have their own, better pension plan. So that is in addition to their own choice of the best medical plans ever. Seems like their perks add up to more extra money so that explains why their salaries can be a little less than the private sector where your employer is contributing to your 401K, well mostly not anymore, and you are contributing to your health insurance. Essentially, the government employees have a good deal and they know it.

Posted by: curious at August 28, 2009 11:59 PM (p302b)

306 Obama lied to Joe the Plumber.

Posted by: mary at August 29, 2009 12:01 AM (fjIDy)

307

Just cut the welfare programs and make the Obmaites pay for their goodies.

No social security for those residing outside the US.

No foreign aid.

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