1 Yet her family took the hush money and shut up.Or maybe it was more than just money say a "Godfather"play???

2 Oh well, he's dead.  Finally.  Good afternoon to you, morons.  Time for me to go home and face the wrath of no booze.

3

Mary Jo Kopechne is, like, so DEAD.

Teddy, on the other hand, was, like, totally HAWT.

I dreamed of drinking Chivas with him and stumbling my way into the middle of a waitress sandwich.

 

4 I wonder if he saw her every time he fell asleep sober.

5 Teddy made some mistakes regarding the Mary Jo incident. However, the fact remains, that even if he went to one of those houses and called the police, Mary Jo would not have been saved. Too much time had passed.

6 So if Teddy had been in Lion King, would the character have been named Bloat?

7

Honestly, reading that account, I'm wondering if he killed her on purpose. Maybe he raped her or attempted to, and she was hurt in the struggle, so he dumped her body, figuring that it would be easier to laugh off a drunk accident than a rape/murder.

Not like Kennedys haven't done that exact some thing before.

8

This is why I see red when certain bloggers open comment threads on Kennedy's death, and then straightaway ban unkind words about Kennedy's life.

The proper way to remember the dead is the way Orson Scott Card taught us in Speaker For The Dead. Tell it all.

9

Sigh, palin steele. If he had gotten help immediately (assuming his account is even close to correct), she well could have been saved when SOBER people went to get her out. Even in a sinking car, there is still air, and it could take awhile - 30 minutes, maybe an hour, maybe more - for that air to get forced out. Fast help well could have saved her.

But, you know, it was a judgment call, and who are we to question the Lion of the Senate?

10 mary jo trapped unconscious under water in a car was the last thing on his mind. he walked away because he knew he could get away w/ murder.

the fact that libs don't see what a monstrous beast he is, goes to their bad character also.

11 Nice try, but he is still a murderer and you are still a cocksucker, there feel better asshole leftist idiot!

12 http://tinyurl.com/lra8oh

13 >>>eddy made some mistakes regarding the Mary Jo incident. However, the fact remains, that even if he went to one of those houses and called the police, Mary Jo would not have been saved. Too much time had passed.

Ah, so predictable.

One of those houses was 150 yards away, right on the road. One can walk that distance in less than one minute.

Hustle/Run? Twenty to twenty five SECONDS.

But Chief Coroner Dum-Dum has mad his/r ruling.

14 @9

I thought it sunk into the river by the time teddy got out.

15 palin steele at August 27, 2009 02:28 PM (VDj74)

Argument from ignorance. It's unknowable. And irrelevant. The point is - you try and do something.

16

No links, sorry, but I am sure others here have heard or read the same as Ted is eulogized in various places....

The "tragedy" of Chappaquiddick IS mentioned, but as just that, a "tragedy", making it sound as though something terrible had happened to Ted Kennedy (!)and not to Mary Jo.  Then, mention is made of he was able to "rise above" it, and "move on". What the fuck?

I swear, it makes it sound like he was the one who was done against.

He went missing for those hours to walk off whatever blood alcohol levels he had and that was what mattered to him.

17 I thought it sunk into the river by the time teddy got out.

Even if an auto is completely submerged, there are still air pockets.  The fact remains that Kennedy did nothing.

18 30 minutes, maybe an hour, maybe more

mary jo trapped unconscious under water in a car

Autopsy said she suffocated.  The diver who found her body said she was in an air bubble.  She was conscious and knew she was going to run out of oxygen. 

(I got this information from a 1989 Time article that interviewed jurors, who noted that the prosecution was not allowed to introduce any information that made Ted look back.  I'd post a link, but I'm at work.)

19 Ted Kennedy gave me hope that if I ever murder a pregnant mistress and then orchestrate the clumsy cover up, it's still possible for me to be elected to the Senate.

20 Sheesh, what a steaming turd in semi-human form. This Kennedy corpse can't go through the guts of a worm fast enough, and I hope the fish that eats of that worm ends up in a nice hobo belly.

21

For you Dum dum, I posted this on another thread but it seems more appropriate here.

In Honor of Ted Kennedy and our new "Chappaquiddick Care" Health bill. Complete with the snappy new slogan: "We Promise to show you the same level of care that Teddy Kennedy showed Mary Jo Kopechne"

From Wikipedia

In addition to the working telephone at the Lawrence Cottage, according to one commentator, his route back to the cottage would have taken him past four houses from which he could have telephoned and summoned help; however, he did not do so. The first of those houses, referred to as "Dike House", was only 150 yards away from the bridge, and was occupied by Sylvia Malm and her family at the time of the incident. Malm later stated that she had left a light on at the residence when she retired for that evening.

Earlier that morning, two amateur fishermen had seen the overturned car in the water and notified the inhabitants of the cottage nearest to the pond, who called the authorities at around 8:20 am. A diver was sent down and discovered Kopechne's body at around 8:45 am.The diver, John Farrar, later testified at the inquest that Kopechne's body was pressed up in the car in the spot where an air bubble would have formed. He interpreted this to mean that Kopechne had survived for a while after the initial accident in the air bubble, and concluded that

“

Had I received a call within five to ten minutes of the accident occurring, and was able, as I was the following morning, to be at the victim's side within twenty-five minutes of receiving the call, in such event there is a strong possibility that she would have been alive on removal from the submerged car.

”

Farrar believed that Kopechne "lived for at least two hours down there."

22 @17

are you assuming the windows were fully closed and unbroken?

a poor assumption given the circumstances.

23 palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at August 27, 2009 02:36 PM (VDj74)

According to him; that's what he did. But if you spent that much time trying to save her, why would you be covering it up back at the party? It's a lie.

24 I thought it sunk into the river by the time teddy got out.

Something I recently learned: She didn't drown. She asphyxiated when the oxygen in her air bubble ran out.

There was time.

I've never seen you sink this low before.

25

Teachable moment.

Mary Jo depended on a Liberal to save her.

26 >>>Also, there's always the possibility that no one's home.

Um, that was one house. Its lights were on.

There were four more houses. And a firehouse with a PAYPHONE.

>>>.if this happened to anyone of us, we don't know how we would've acted.

um, I do, Dum Dum.

I would have tried to get her out and, failing that, would have called for help.

You apparently don't know if YOU would have left a human being to die while you went back to a party to begin conspiring with your swinging cheater husband friends.

Most of us do.

27 Nicely played, Winston.

28 Teddy probably buried his Irish root while in the car, then worried about getting caught by his boozed up wife.  He had to get rid of the witness.  End of story.

29 Er, make Ted look BAD.

The other sick, sad thing I learned today, I think from a link in an earlier thread, is that Ted's wife was pregnant while he was out partying with and killing unmarried staffers.  She miscarried about a month later.

Ted's a piece of shit.

30 On a lighter note...one more...


http://tinyurl.com/ktyhua

31 there was a window of opportunity to save her.
the point is, the slovenly beast didn't even try.
that show everything abt. his priorities.
he did not value her life.

32 @23

2 of teddy's beloved brothers just recently died, now he just crashed a car and another close one may be dead...are you honestly gonna imagine what his mindset was?

he was probably freaking out internally.

33 a poor assumption given the circumstances.

An excellent assumption given the fucking rescue personnel testified to it.

34 Thank you George.

That's how I roll.

35

Ten hours.

I want our pet troll to think of all the things that could be done in ten hours.

Ten hours.

36 Posted by: palin steele at August 27, 2009 02:37 PM (VDj74)

If that was the case, nitwit, then why wasn't Kennedy able to rescue her on one of the many dives he claimed to make? 

37

palin steele.  People here have read your inanities. We have read your racist and sexist remarks.

You have sunk to a new low, even for you.

Congratulations, you piece of shit on legs.

38 2 of teddy's beloved brothers just recently died, now he just crashed a car and another close one may be dead...are you honestly gonna imagine what his mindset was?
he was probably freaking out internally.

This is a new low, even for you.

39 Posted by: Who Knows at August 27, 2009 02:41 PM (0aQsc)

Okay, that was weird.

40 @26

yeah ace, I'm sure you would've been calm and collected and cool as a cucumber under similar situations, systematically crossing off every viable option and saving the person's life in the situation. You wouldn't be flustered at all.

/sarc

41

You would have to peel back two layers of slime to get down to the Ted Kennedy layer of slime.

BTW, I see Dum Dum has dropped in to squeeze out a few turds of wisdom.

42

2 of teddy's beloved brothers just recently died, now he just crashed a car and another close one may be dead...are you honestly gonna imagine what his mindset was?

he was probably freaking out internally.

I'd work on the "recently part."

And we have a word that captures the meaning of that last sentence, it's called "cowardice."

43

Obamacare.

Kennedycare.

Kopechnecare.   

That's what we gonna get from the Democrats.

44 WTF? Did I just hear David Brooks believes the GOP should model itself after Kennedy in the Reagan era?

You would think the NYT would get tired of the same catamite, giving the same hand job.

45


Even if an auto is completely submerged, there are still air pockets.  The fact remains that Kennedy did nothing.

Posted by: Slublog at August 27, 2009 02:36 PM (qjKko)

Link to an illustration of the air pocket.

46 palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at August 27, 2009 02:40 PM (VDj74)

Wow. Now this is stupid. So to ensure that "another close one" doesn't die, he abandons her to drown in the car while he flees back to the party to make up a story.

If he was pondering JFK or RFK at the time, me thinks he learned the wrong lesson.

47 yeah ace, I'm sure you would've been calm and collected and cool as a cucumber under similar situations, systematically crossing off every viable option and saving the person's life in the situation. You wouldn't be flustered at all.

Ten hours.

Ten.

48 Part of Kopechnecare includes, for the elderly, the "Oldsmobile option."

49 You are a fool to believe that msm does not already know or that a liberal would read this and care. T.K. could have, later, if given legal immunity, come out and said he did it, even bragged about getting out of her pregnancy on top of it, and they would still be for him. Beyond the sympathy of both his brother's (deserved, if Joe and Teddy are examples) deaths, most liberals believe the end justifies the means, you know, a few cracked heads for the good of all, a couple of sacrificial lambs to keep our god-politicians happy and in power, you know. Come on, every body does it.

50 One of the more unknown "lionizations" of Ted Kennedy was in one of Piers Anthony's books, "With A Tangled Skein".

There's an unnamed politician in there who is destined for greatness but targeted by the Devil for death.  He's saved from an assassination attempt, but a young woman who was with him at the time took his car and drove off anyway, as the car gets knocked into the water and she drowns.

It's later told to the person who saved him that he may have lived, but his politically career was irreparably damaged.

Thus, the real reason that Ted Kennedy was never President Kennedy was that the Devil destroyed his career, not that he owned a car other than a VW Bug. [/sarc]

51

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at August 27, 2009 02:42 PM (VDj74)

Why don't you drive a car off of the Chappaquiddick bridge? I promise someone will dive in to rescue you. In about a year or two.

52 "Yet her family took the hush money and shut up.Or maybe it was more than just money say a "Godfather"play???"

Her family was from Pennsylvania.  I imagine the conversation went like this:
"He's a KENNEDY!  He's not going to get CONVICTED of anything in Massachusetts.  No one is going to TESTIFY that he was DRUNK.  The Massachusetts authorities will do NOTHING!  GET OVER IT!  Take the money, shut up, and forget about it. 

Mary Jo's father was bitter until the end of his life.

Just think.  Five years later, when Ford pardoned Nixion, Ted Kennedy said that 'there's one form of justice for people with connections and another form for common people'.  I'd say he was speaking from personal experience.

53

yeah ace, I'm sure you would've been calm and collected and cool as a cucumber under similar situations, systematically crossing off every viable option and saving the person's life in the situation.

Hey, asshole--I DID IT as a 15-year-old kid.  We have men and women in the U.S. military who do it on a daily basis.  We have EMTs, cops and firemen who do, too.  We have loads of people who can use a telephone and we have collies who run for fucking help and bark instructions to people. 

What's your next stupid fucking empty point?

54 40,

It's not about being calm and cool you fucking idiot, it's about doing the right thing to save an innocent life, and ted didn't step up, you wouldn't know about doing the right thing because obviously life means nothing to you, Ace BAN this POS! Be done with this asshole!

55 Perhaps he should be remembered as "the Loins of the Senate".

56 palin steele at August 27, 2009 02:37 PM (VDj74)

He, apparently, was able to get out. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to believe that he could have helped someone else get out the same way. The car wasn't exactly in hundreds of feet of water. It was near the surface.

57 In my initial post, I said Teddy made a mistake. I never claimed he acted ideally in the situation.

58

Heaven or hell, this guy is getting his comeuppance. God has his own methods of dealing with wayward children.

The really disgusting part is how the libtards and the MSM (Fox included) are just falling over themselves to paint Teddy as a hero of some sort.

What the fuck ever. I'm so damned tired of Obama this and Ted Kennedy that, I think I'm gonna go drink beer and watch Spaceballs.

59 "the Loins of the Senate"

Lamb or beef? Man, that Teddy makes me hungry.

60 I really don't see what all the racist hate from insane conservatives is all about.  Why do the haters and sellouts hate the liberals who are their betters?

61 @56

so you're saying it was murder?!! what would be the motive?

62 #25 Johnathan E

excellent point.
(most of the libs i know have cut and run in times of real danger)

63 2 of teddy's beloved brothers just recently died, now he just crashed a car and another close one may be dead...are you honestly gonna imagine what his mindset was?

he was probably freaking out internally.

Posted by: palin steele at August 27, 2009 02:40 PM (VDj74)

They were both assassinated. You think Teddy didn't try to rescue her because he thought someone might be down there with a gun?

64 A diver was sent down and discovered Kopechne's body at around 8:45 am. The diver, John Farrar, later testified at the inquest that Kopechne's body was pressed up in the car in the spot where an air bubble would have formed. He interpreted this to mean that Kopechne had survived for a while after the initial accident in the air bubble, and concluded that

“

Had I received a call within five to ten minutes of the accident occurring, and was able, as I was the following morning, to be at the victim's side within twenty-five minutes of receiving the call, in such event there is a strong possibility that she would have been alive on removal from the submerged car.

”

Farrar believed that Kopechne "lived for at least two hours down there

65

Mistake, piece of painful stool, mistake you say? he made a mistake?

That was no mistake. He left to get his BAC down before he could report anything to the authorities.

She died, miserable and frightened and alone, while he walked his drunk off.

 

66 If you want you can actually see pictures of the car submerged in water online via a quick google search. The car was easily seen under water, it was not 50 feet down more like 2. So the bastard could have stood on the damn thing and have been breathing.

67 palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at August 27, 2009 02:48 PM (VDj74)

It was murder. What else would you call it? Motive? Murder doesn't need a motive.

68 Kennedy is just another leftist borderline personality psychopath.  Just like bubba blowjob and hussein obama.

69 How did so many of the obits miss that Ted got kicked out of Harvard for cheating and finished his degree at U of Virginia ?

70 They don't even mention how the Kennedy family became powerful.  The Kennedy's got rich during prohibition when Joe Kennedy was bootlegging booze with his buddy, Sam Giancana,a Mafia big shot. Joe wanted political power but knew he good not do it because of his crimenal behaviar.  So he got his kids to do it.  John, Bob, and Ted. 
I am willing to tell about it, and I am an Irishman!

71

if this happened to anyone of us, we don't know how we would've acted.

Dude, you really suck, no seriously you=suck

i really want to slap your mom and the sperm donor who created you

72 David Brooks is a plant. He isn't an Ivy Leaguer, but he is Canadian and went to UChicago.

73 Ted got kicked out of Harvard for cheating TWICE

ftfy

74 Go read Death at Chappaquiddick. It's even worse than noted in this post. Palin Steel, there is no defending what this piece of shit did. Go get the facts and come back to apologize, scumbag. You really are a pathetic asshole.

75 So the only non partisan on this website is defending a person for Manslaughter based on his political affiliation. What a world.

76

5 Teddy made some mistakes regarding the Mary Jo incident. However, the fact remains, that even if he went to one of those houses and called the police, Mary Jo would not have been saved. Too much time had passed.

Dummy, that's not why he didn't try to help.  You and I both know, however you deny, that he went back to his hotel to clear the alcohol from his system. Also hoped that something would happen so the police wouldn't find out.

Then when Ford pardoned Nixon, he actually stated publicly that "There are two kinds of law in this country, one for the poor, and another for the rich and powerful.  That and the fact that he named his dog "Splash" indicate that he had no concience to bother him about this event.

4 I wonder if he saw her every time he fell asleep sober.

I would bet that that's why he seldom fell asleep sober.

77 Ted had no intention of risking his fat bloated ass to help anyone else. His first concern was to get his fat greasy ass out of that car, then the water. Then his derelict mind went to working on extracting his big ass from the mess he was up to his neck in. Not one moment did he waste thinking about the girl, and he sure didn't want her talking to the police or the press. That is the simple truth that is suggested by a lifetime of debauchery and drunkenness.

78 I'm not really defending him. I just think it's in bad taste to be shitting on the grave of someone barely 2 days dead is all.

79

Hey remember last fall when the left was all unanimous about how John McCain was a hero for spending six years as a POW?

Me neither.

But Ted Kennedy is a certified American hero.

The mind.  It reels and reels and reels.  And then falls down a flight of stairs.

80

I used to have a saved internet spot for Ted Kennedy the truth about Chappaquiddick and More, based on a book written about the incident. I read it in the late 70's early 80's.  It had/has interviews with different parties, including locals and Kennedy cronies and all sorts of details about the island, the fateful night, the Kopechnes, Ted's big brother Jack, the AG, etc etc. I just tried to use said link, and it won't open. Hmmmm. I think the author was named Damore, not sure though.

 

81

George Bush got a DUI...OMG holy hell no no no no what a horrible person

Ted Kennedy left a girl to drown after he drunkenly crashed his car.....people make mistakes, what a "tragedy" I am glad he was able to "rise above" it and distinguish himself in the Senate.

82

I'm not really defending him. I just think it's in bad taste to be shitting on the grave of someone barely 2 days dead is all.

You mean like what you buddies did after Reagan and Tony Snow Passed?

83 I'm sure Palin would agree; "It's all Mary Jo's fault!"

Hey dumb ass, just consider the comments as honest balance to all the crap being spit out by the MSM and Democrats (but I repeat myself) about St. Teddy of Seagram's.

84 I'm not really defending him. I just think it's in bad taste to be shitting on the grave of someone barely 2 days dead is all.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at August 27, 2009 02:54 PM (VDj74)

Yes you were. But like always you didn't know what in the hell you were writing about so now you're trying to backtrack. You are an ignorant, uneducated, uninformed clown.

85 78,

If you died and were buried today I would dig you up and burn your lying ass, how dare you take up for a murderer just because he's a communist  (like you), just to press your communist leanings, you people are all sick, but we will win in the end!

86

78

You bet. I'll be giving kudos to Chuck Manson when his rotten ass if dead too. I sure as hell won't talk nice about a dirt bag just because he no longer infests the planet.

87

You would know about leaving shit in various places, you living, breathing piece of shit, painful stool.

You are expert at that.

The only "bad taste" is the stench, so strong that you can taste it in the air, whenever you drop one of your shitty comments.

 

88

 I'm not really defending him. I just think it's in bad taste to be shitting on the grave of someone barely 2 days dead is all.

you know what, fuck him for what he did to this poor girl and her family.  i hope his fat ass rots in hell, it fact, i hope dogs dig up his bloated ass and eats his corpse.

and fuck you too

89 Ted Kennedy had no character - he cheated his way through school, relied on his daddy to save his skin, left a girl to die, repeatedly cheated on his family with a parade of skanks, and used his religion only when it suited him. He was a hypocrite of the highest order, and only the fools in Washington DC and Massachusetts who voted for him think he should be honored.

90

Teddy made some mistakes regarding the Mary Jo incident. However, the fact remains, that even if he went to one of those houses and called the police, Mary Jo would not have been saved. Too much time had passed.

if i am not mistaken humans can go 12 minutes without air before they suffer massive brain damage and death. While i agree it is unlikely she would have been saved, you can't let your leftist ideology explain away what was at the very least manslaughter, DUI, felony to not report a fatal car accident, and maybe even attempt to conceal a crime.

91 >>>yeah ace, I'm sure you would've been calm and collected and cool as a cucumber under similar situations, systematically crossing off every viable option and saving the person's life in the situation. You wouldn't be flustered at all.


Well, I was in the presence of someone who had a heart attack and I somehow found the presence of mind to check for vital signs and stir her to consciousness and then call 911.

Flustered? YES. (This person awoke weirdly as if brain-damaged and unable to speak coherently... very scary, as it was a close blood relative.)

And yet oddly enough I managed to do the things you're supposed to do.

92

Just saw a vid on Breitbart of McCain kicking a blind libtard out of his townhall...pretty funny, she looked like a code pinko commie, i could be wrong though.

  

93 there is no excusing his behavior.
and nothing he did after this despicable act of cowardice and murder, redeemed this pos.
in fact he continued to show his (sizable) ass for the rest of his life.

94

I just think it's in bad taste to be shitting on the grave of someone barely 2 days dead is all.

Why that's almost as bad as leaving someone to drown.

Some sense of propriety you have there.

95 Look, OJ Simpson made a few mistakes.  But you have to take into account how upset he was.  Nicole was through with him for good this time.  His family was breaking up for real.  He was thinking of the children! 

96 I'm not really defending him. I just think it's in bad taste to be shitting on the grave of someone barely 2 days dead is all.

Posted by: palin steele at August 27, 2009 02:54 PM (VDj74)

Politicians do love legacies. Shit on it. Piss on his grave.

Pour encourager les autres

97

navycopjoe.

i think someone else said it yesterday

they worked out a formula to see how long they should wait before they started talking poorly of kennedy. They took the amount of time kennedy spent trying to save mary jo, then multiplied by a trillion. So 0 minutes total.

98
Don't forget the numerous rapes and assaults that have been hushed up and ignored over the years.  That fat piece of shit was... a piece of shit.

99 The fat fuck is in Hell, being raped by the barbed cock of Satan as we speak.

100 A mistake is when you buy whole milk instead of skim. Cowardice is when you let a woman die because you're too much of a pussy to even try to save her, and too selfish to call for help, because you might get in trouble.

You empathise with Teddy because you know you're a fucking coward, too. Fuck you, you sniveling piece of libtard shit.

101 The point is that anyone else who did this would've been in jail, and definitely would not have had a major political career.
And what about the other guys at this party? Why didn't they go down and help? Or call police. There's alot of people who could've done something and didn't. All of them were Democrats.
He's gone to face ultimate justice, but it would've been nice for him to face some justice here and definitely better for the country. But as we can see in Obama's America, you have a (D) after your name, you don't have to play by the rules.

102

Have her parents ever made a public statement? I'm just curious as towhat the parents have or had to say. They never seem to be in the storylines I've read.

Oh.. and good riddance. That's one dynasty I can't wait to see gone.

103

they worked out a formula to see how long they should wait before they started talking poorly of kennedy. They took the amount of time kennedy spent trying to save mary jo, then multiplied by a trillion. So 0 minutes total.

damn ben, that's written bacon right there

104 The Chappaquiddick fact that sticks with me -- that the fabric on the inside roof of the car had claw marks.

105 ...Teddy Kennedy's long, heroic walk back to the party he just left, and the telephones he passed along the way.

Fantastic line, Ace.

106 Kennedy was neither indicted for manslaughter nor convicted of manslaughter. In 1963 Laura Bush ran a stop sign at high speed and killed her ex boyfriend. She was also not indicted for or convicted of manslaughter

107
"In my initial post, I said Teddy made a mistake. I never claimed he acted ideally in the situation."

Leaving the house without your umbrella: that's a mistake.

Forgetting to mail the gas bill on time: that's a mistake.

Driving drunk, then walking away and leaving a woman to die when all you have to do to save her is make a fucking phone call: that's murder.

108

Have her parents ever made a public statement? I'm just curious as towhat the parents have or had to say. They never seem to be in the storylines I've read.

Oh.. and good riddance. That's one dynasty I can't wait to see gone.

They're all dead. They also took hush money (forcibly, no doubt, and along with threats to never speak about it.) When the mafia tells you to shut up, you shut up.

109 John Ryan, are you sleeping with dum-dum?

110 Palin, you are a coward. That much is obvious, and your admission of such is not terrible in itself.

However, your comments here are simply making excuses for those moments in your life when courage may be needed; moments whose outcomes you have already surrendered to the whims of fate instead of your own actions.

Those who say "who knows how anyone would act if x" are missing the opportunity to encourage themselves and others to prepare to do the right thing.

Heroes are rarely born. Far more often, heroes are molded by the expectations of their peers.

I'll help you out here Palin, if nobody else will. I expect you to do the right thing. I expect that you, unlike Ted Kennedy, will act with courage when a life is in the balance. I believe enough in your basic humanity that you will make the phone call, or pull someone from a burning car, or from the path of a bus.

I believe that you won't freeze in that moment, Palin.

Do you?

111

Larry Craig should be thrown out of office for tapping his foot in a bathroom stall.

Ted Kennedy is my hero. Who knows how any of us would have acted had we driven a car off the road while drunk? Who hasn't used their political charges to escape felony Murder/Manslaughter/DUI/Reckless Driving charges? Who are we to judge.

112 I've found it interesting to note who does and doesn't care about Teddy's death.  Lib friends my age (mid-40s) and older seem to care, but the younger set haven't bothered to utter a peep about it.  Perhaps their tiny brains recognized him for the dinosaur that he was. 

113 Kennedy was neither indicted for manslaughter nor convicted of manslaughter. In 1963 Laura Bush ran a stop sign at high speed and killed her ex boyfriend. She was also not indicted for or convicted of manslaughter

Posted by: John ryan at August 27, 2009 03:04 PM (1ZaAe)

I missed the part where Laura Bush left the scene of the accident to leave her boyfriend die in the street. Could you fill me in on that part?

114 Have her parents ever made a public statement?

They took a settlement.  An 'offer they couldn't refuse' if you will.

115 She was also not indicted for or convicted of manslaughter

Posted by: John ryan at August 27, 2009 03:04 PM (1ZaAe)

Did she have a chance to save him after the fact and blew it off to make a hair appointment? Apples and oranges. But, I'd bet you knew that.

116 Dum Dum,

I promise you it won't even be twelve hours before I'm hate-fucking the freshly piled dirt over your coffin.

117 2 of teddy's beloved brothers just recently died, now he just crashed a car and another close one may be dead...are you honestly gonna imagine what his mindset was?

he was probably freaking out internally.

Six years or so isn't very recent. However, what was recent was the moon landing, just two days prior to Chappaquiddick.

It's more likely his mindset was, "Poooor meeee! My brother JFK is going to be a hero of the ages now! I've always been the fuck up, daddy never liked me. I know what'll kill the pain-LOTS OF BOOZE."

118

its been a while since i read dante so where is teddy?

i know traitors go to the 7th level but what about murderers and rapists?

or did satan dig a new hole just for him?

119 John ryan is another POS that needs to be barred from posting here, I consider it an honor by Ace to post here, these assholes are nothing but cowards, I'm thinking of leaving if we permit this kind of shit here!

120

John Ryan

Did she leave the scene of the crime?  Geez who knew all these years I should have been calling my sister's best friend a murderer for being the driver of the car crash which killed my sister.

121

Someone on another blog---I'm too senile to remember which--- mentioned something I'd like to share.  Dominick Dunne died yesterday, too.  A weird coincidence.

For those who don't know, Dunne was a writer who devoted much of his life to exposing the way the powerful get away with murder (literally.) His (thinly disguised) novel on the Martha Moxley murder has been credited with the re-opening of that case and the eventual conviction of Michael Skakel, Ethel Kennedy's nephew.  It's called A Season in Purgatory and it's a great read.  It really shows you how the Kennedys & Co. spoil and protect their sociopathic brats. Dunne's articles in defense of the victim in the William Smith rape are also excellent.

Just wanted to mentioned Dunne and pay special tribute to him. 

122 Why is any one surprised?

He is the lion of leftists!

Obama is just the new one.

How long till the first sex scandal?  I figure 6 months.  At least six months till we learn about it.  It may be happening now, since he is on vacation on Liberaltown Island. Even male reporters are getting hard ons around him.

123 Can I just say, after a couple months or so (or however long it's been in effect), calling this jerk "Dum Dum" and "Dummy" really doesn't quite get to the heart of the matter.

What was this supposed to accomplish?  It makes giving a terrorist the silent treatment seem like a harsh measure.

What is the benefit in still indulging this worthless jackass?

124 o giving eulogy.
all of my kingdom for a bird in need of relieving itself right on o's head.

125 It shouldn't surprise me, even though I guess it does, that the media glosses over Chappaquiddick as an "unfortunate" accident. I caught a glimpse of the news last night and they were talking about Ted and it just floored me the way they talked about Chappaquiddick. It wasn't a tragedy that resulted in the death of woman due to a man's cowardice and negligence. No, it was a tragedy that it stole the presidency away from Ted Kennedy. Really? Too bad that happened because Ted lost any bid for the presidency? I have no words to describe how vile I think that sentiment is.

126

I said Teddy made a mistake.

A mistake is hitting a mailbox post. Driving off a road at a 15 degree bend into a pond, leaving your passenger to drown, and waiting ten hours to notify police is a crime, usually negligent homicide if you're not a Kennedy.

I've been to the bridge at Chappiquidick. The bridge has been replaced, but other than that things are the same. The road curves very gently at the entrance to the bridge, so someone would have to blasted out of his mind to miss it. The water is not very deep, and the bridge is very close to the water. It's not as daunting a prospect to pull someone out of a car there compared to a similar situation in an urban area. Eddie just didn't give a good goddam about her, at best.

Ed Kennedy skated on a felony manslaughter due to family connections. Bad enough, but the attempts to whitewash him over the years turn my stomach.

127

Y-Not....

I grew up in an Irish Catholic home, on the east coast, in the sixties.

The Kennedys were idols. My home had the, now admittedly a joke, pictures of Pope John and JFK on the wall.

They could literally do no wrong.

Even while they lied, commited homicide, raped or covered the same up.

I am over 40 and I grew up with the cult, but I don't partake of the kool aid.

128

The legend lives on from Chappaquiddick on down
Of the lecher they call Uncle Teddy
His car, it is said, never gives up its dead
When Ted's hand on the wheel is unsteady.

With a girl he did bed, not his wife, it is said
Edward plied her with drink and with ardor
The car he did drive, it was not built to dive
When the drunk Senator gets too horny.

The rain on the road made a slippery hold
But that's nothing a sober man's fearing.
Yet old Teddy knew, did the poor girl too,
T'was a drunk Ted doing all the steering.

So Edward wired in, he had water coming in
And his Senate career was in peril
And later that night when his lights went out of sight
Sank the wreck of the Edward Booze Barrel.

Does anyone know where the love of God goes
When the wait turns the minutes to hours
The searchers all say she'd be alive today
If Ted acted like a human being.


He might have called help, but he thought of himself
So he lied to her friends and her neighbors
And all that remains is her face and her name
And a smug Teddy reeking in office.

The legend lives on from Chappaquiddick on down
Of the lecher they call Uncle Teddy
His car, it is said, never gives up its dead
When Ted's hand on the wheel is unsteady.

129

Last night, PBS was reshowing their documentary, The Kennedys.  Their description of the party before the crash was absolutely pathetic.

Friday, July 18, 1969. As the Apollo 11 crew approached the moon, fulfilling a goal set by John Kennedy, Edward Kennedy was in Massachusetts, fulfilling still another family obligation—attending a reunion party of young women who had worked for his brother Robert's last campaign. One of them was Mary Jo Kopechne. The party was held on Chappaquiddick Island, off Martha's Vineyard.

Calling a get together between six young women and five married (plus one unmarried) men a "reunion party" is pretty rich.  Then to frame Ted's attendance at the party as "still another family obligation," as if there was something noble about a married guy partying with campaign staffers, takes the cake.

130

John Ryan just equated the actions of a seventeen year-old single, sober girl with that of a drunk, married forty year-old United States Senator.

That, morons, is an all-time low and sets a new standard for moral equivalency contortions.

 

131 What is the benefit in still indulging this worthless jackass?

Posted by: Kensington at August 27, 2009 03:11 PM (euXQ0)

Ratings

132 # 89 on my personal list of 100 thing to do before I die.

#89 Live longer than Ted Kennedy

still working on

#90 Live longer than W K Smith
#91 Live longer than P J Kennedy II
#92 Live longer than Michael C Skakel

I'm feeling pretty good about my chances

133 Is Dr. William Kennedy Smith still out there assaulting co workers and patients?  Sure wouldn't want anyone I cared about to end up with him assigned as a primary with obama's deathcare plan.

134

if this happened to anyone of us, we don't know how we would've acted.

Speak for yourself, pussy. If I see someone get into an accident, or is hurt, I stop and help. Just like most people do. Why, because we're not quivering cowards or soulless sociopaths. I undestand that you most likely scream uncontrollably at such horrors like too-close bumblebees, but not everyone is like that.

I read Mike Kelly's article that was linked last night and my overarching take from it was a cold revulsion. Men like Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton see women as simply playthings; temporary, discardable pleasures that serve no other purpose than their own appetites. (And this is a non-partisan flaw, there are plenty of people on both sides that are shitty to women.) I've known men like this for years, and it rarely shocks me anymore. What I don't get is why women are still drawn to these scumbags. Are power and money  that intoxicating?

135 127

My dad was a "Kennedy Democrat."  Also Irish-Catholic.  Fortunately, he married a sensible gal who was half French-Canadian (and a life-long Republican).  He came to his senses when McGovern ran and has never looked back.

I am somewhat surprised that the younger folks who are part of my Facebook circle (most of whom are "progressives") have not posted a single laudatory thing about Teddy on their walls. 

136 Perhaps now, in the afterlife, Teddy Kennedy will have to meet Mary Jo Kopechne once again, and have to explain his conduct that night. 

One wonders what he would say.

137

I've found it interesting to note who does and doesn't care about Teddy's death.  Lib friends my age (mid-40s) and older seem to care, but the younger set haven't bothered to utter a peep about it.  Perhaps their tiny brains recognized him for the dinosaur that he was. 

I wonder how differently people outside the northeast corridor regard the Chappaquiddick Kid. My suspicion is that people in flyover country didn't think quite so highly of him in life and aren't quite as affected by his death as the northeastern liberals are.

138 How long till the first sex scandal?  I figure 6 months.

I guess you missed the story about the mistress he packed off to the Caribbean during the election then. Ace even had pics of the they met at. 

139 a gmail chat I'm having:

you know the car was only partially submerged. FIshermen spotted it that morning and called the cops
so it was apparently in only 4 feet of water... and he couldn't get the girl out of the car???

nd Kennedy supposedly reported the incident at 9am -- but the fishermen had already called it in at 8:40 am
so did he really even call at 9?

Or did the cops come to talk to him at 9 and allow him to claim he had contacted them?

how can a man not manage to move a woman's weight, especially when water is buoying it? All he had to do was open the door, or pull her through the open door HE got out of

140 One wonders what he would say.

"Ooo Ooo Hothothothothothothot!"

141  Anyway, since he is reposing in a convienient locale, why not have the caravan pop over to Chappaquiddick and have a funeral at sea? Too harsh?

142

Laura Bush was 17 at the time. She was going 50 in a 55 zone, and she was not drunk. She had an “accident”.

 

In any reasonable State of the union Kennedy would have been charged with felony DUI which here carries a sentence of 25 years. Kennedy left her to die, tried to establish a cover-up, and was drunk.

143 Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life...
unless you're a Kennedy.

144

navycopjoe,

Tinyurl pisses me off, just google "Dante's Inferno: A Virtual Tour"

145

Interesting, Y-not.

Other than a generational thing, I wonder why.

146 If I remember correctly from the book, they were on the way to the beach to have sex, and came across an off duty police officer who shined his flashlight on them. He sped away to avoid being identified and crashed.

147 Grrrrrrrrrrrrr! palin steele should be disallowed to post on this blog.

148 Bang!  Bang!  Bang!  Bang!

That's the sound of the undertaker nailing the lid of Ted Kennedy's coffin shut to close a disastrous chapter in the history of the US Senate.  Ted Kennedy was famous for serial lying, perjury in the Willie Smith rape case, fondling and attempted rape of a waitress, and acute alcoholism.  Ted Kennedy's dead, and good fucking riddance to a bad actor.  Also, fuck the rest of the Kennedy also and that includes Caroline. 

149 All he had to do was open the door, or pull her through the open door HE got out of

Unless she had already been raped/beaten up/knocked unconscious by teddyboy, in which case leaving her there and getting your stooges' help makes perfect sense.

We'll never know, as no autopsy was ever performed.

150

OT but this is vomit inducing from the Politico.

"After a mid-August trip to America's national parks and a weeklong vacation on Martha's Vineyard, President Obama plans ...

... to take a little more time away from the office next week.

Obama will head to Camp David on Wednesday, Sept. 2, and stay through the weekend, White House spokesman Bill Burton told reporters in a Thursday briefing.

Joking that it may have been "wishful thinking" to suggest Obama's current trip out of Washington would coincide with a news-free week, Burton quipped that the president needs a "break from his vacation."

151 Weird. I thought being a traitor to his country was even worse than killing some bimbo who'd party with a married guy. I must not be the norm.

152 Diver Hints Mary Jo Might Have Been Saved -- St Petersburg Times Sept 1, 1969: http://tinyurl.com/mq4lfj

153

We'll never know, as no autopsy was ever performed.

They exhumed her body for autopsy, that's how they determined suffocation instead of drowning.

154 I have KDS. I even hate George Kennedy.

155 I agree that the Teddy worship is probably regional. 

I wonder how folks in Chicago, another older city with a sizable Irish-Catholic population, feel about him.

156

Saw that map at the top of the Cannon piece, and all I could think was:

"Teddy, Teddy, TEDDY!  You FOOL!  You should have turned HARD LEFT!"

157 If you're a drunken fool, I can see how it might be hard to get back down four feet and work out some kind of rescue, particularly if the car is upside down, but how could he not pull her out with him when he got out?  That's what I don't understand.

158 1969 Year in Review: Chappaquiddick

http://tinyurl.com/nqrk74

159 The Kennedys and Notre Dame: two American Catholic institutions whose usefulness has come to an end. 

160

She was murdered by that scumbag.

161

I don't understand how women still support the Democrats - the Dems greatest leaders of the last 40 years, Cigar Clinton and Drunk Ted have treated women as absolute shiite for all their adult lives.

162

Please, Ace, ban the asshole known as painful stool.

He adds nothing. He diverts threads. He is not even funny.

Ban!

163 157,

Because she was pregnant with his child and it might ruin his Presidency chances, just like odumbass said last week that Repubs. were trying to ruin his presidency, these asshole communists are all the same, they don't care about America!!!

164

Ted Kennedy, like Bill Clinton, was a charming sociopath.  Other people are not real.

 

165

Why do you people keep responding to Palin Steele?

His/r posts aren't even clever enough to bother with. It's one thing to try to argue with a Lefty who makes logical points but these don't come remotely close. It's as if a high school junior is writing them and thinking he's pulling one over on you while he's laughing with his buddies in the computer club.

Fun for the kiddies but not for thinking adults.

166 Palin Steele #78   I never post about a trolls postings. I will break this rule now. You must be from around NYC who grew up in a horrible broken home. You are nothing but a street hood Hitler. You have absolutely no feelings for your fellow man. Your mental state must have been retarded at 13. Tell us, why do you hate truth and justice!

167 I wonder how folks in Chicago, another older city with a sizable Irish-Catholic population, feel about him.

Posted by: Y-not at August 27, 2009 03:23 PM (sey23)

I couldn't stand him or his rotten clan. But a lot of fellow micks turned a blind eye to everything he and his bunch did. Some of them are still living in 1960.

168 . See, he withheld news of the crash from Mary Jo Kopechne's friends to protect them.

He was all about protecting the women.

Well, you see..   the group was down one woman so he might have to steal his buddy's date..   And you wouldn't want all the women rushing off to Mary Jo's aid and turn the party into a stag fest.. 

169 @157 And, if the door was open, what prevented her from climbing through it herself?  She obviously was able to position herself in an air bubble, and scratch the upholstery. 

Did the car have an open door when they found it?

170 he was a fcking sociopath.

171

They exhumed her body for autopsy,

 

Nope, they tried to get the body exhumed for an autopsy but the judge would not allow it.

172 171,

Because the Kennedy's prevented it!

173

Why not mention all his other notable bullshit? How about during Reagan ? I think the word is TREASON?

Ted Kennedy and the KGB

It was a May 14, 1983 letter from the head of the KGB, Viktor Chebrikov, to the head of the USSR, the odious Yuri Andropov, with the highest level of classification. Chebrikov relayed to Andropov an offer from Senator Ted Kennedy, presented by Kennedy’s old friend and law-school buddy, John Tunney, a former Democratic senator from California, to reach out to the Soviet leadership at the height of a very hot time in the Cold War. According to Chebrikov, Kennedy was deeply troubled by the deteriorating relationship between the United States and the Soviet Union, which he believed was bringing us perilously close to nuclear confrontation. Kennedy, according to Chebrikov, blamed this situation not on the Soviet leadership but on the American president---Ronald Reagan. Not only was the USSR not to blame, but, said Chebrikov, Kennedy was, quite the contrary, “very impressed” with Andropov.

Here's the best line in the article :  Many of these liberals and their supporters on the left literally see the conservative Republican in the Oval Office as a greater threat to the world than the insane dictators overseas that the likes of Reagan and George W. Bush were/are trying to stop. That’s not an exaggeration. Just ask them.

... Front Page Magazine    http://tiny.cc/ksRIA

174 Just proves if your a rich liberal communist or rich black man you can get away with murder in this Country, we are so fucked up!

175 Good litmus test here...Orrin Hatch mourns his passing. I wish Hatch was gone from the Senate too. This is a great RINO identifier.

Kennedy was a poster child for liberal hypocrisy...toleration of objectifying women...treat them like sex toys...and then gets a pass because he is PRO abortion. Oh great, impregnate them and then abort them. What a vile piece of offal.

Also the Catholic Church is damned for not ex-communicating him for the same reason. Also his divorce...

...now can we deal with the manslaughter issue???

176 And the fucker colluded with the Soviets against Reagan.

If he didn't do time for murder, he should have done it for treason.

177 Odumbass is killing us all for sure and no one is doing anything about it!

178 2 of teddy's beloved brothers just recently died, now he just crashed a car and another close one may be dead...are you honestly gonna imagine what his mindset was?

he was probably freaking out internally.

Posted by: palin steele at August 27, 2009 02:40 PM

You are an idiot.  Jack died in 1963 and Bobby in 1968.  Fat Ted left Mary Jo to die in July of 1969.  Yeah he was really still freaking out...that's why he was partying and fooling around with other women.  

 

179

In 1963 Laura Bush ran a stop sign at high speed and killed her ex boyfriend.

I actually would like to learn more about Laura Bush - I think she might be the key to understanding Dubya's descent into Leftism.

In another 15 or 20 years, I bet we come to learn that she was an even bigger leftist influence on Dubya than Nancy Reagan was on The Gipper.

 

180

@5 Palin Steele

I was 11 and VIVIDLY remember - I read ALL the newspaper reports as they driibbled out day after day - As I recall - they reported that she probably had quite awhile in the air bubble - she could have most likely been saved. I had nightmares - she was so pretty and I kept picturing her gulping air in the back in the air bubble - Waiting - as the water rose -

 

 

181 1 Yet her family took the hush money and shut up.Or maybe it was more than just money say a "Godfather"play???

I give the Kopechne family a pass on the deal. At that time the Kennedy family was powerful enough to destroy their lives or just have them disappear. They knew that Ted would never get justice in MA so the money was the closest thing. Plus the money may have been part of an offer they 'couldn't refuse'.

182 The fate I wish upon the Kennedy clan is probably not suitable for civil discourse. Let's just say I think the family is a cancer; the very notion of a political dynasty of trust fund sociopaths...I would pop a bottle of bubbly with some lady friends if the Kennedy compound were to mysteriously burn down at the next family gathering.

Too far, maybe. But then again, so is offering to work with the KGB to defeat Reagan. So is whichever of the remaining syphilitic Kennedy clan that supports Chavez.

183 <i>the Kennedy family was powerful enough to destroy their lives...</i>

They had that one covered.

184

#165, Hurricane

I don't know either but the little prick seems to know how to push buttons.

I think it might be cathartic for folks to unload their frustrations on the brainless douchebag.

Better (and cheaper) than punching a hole through the drywall, I suppose.

185 Does anyone know if the car door was open?  I'm really curious about that but I haven't been able to find anything to answer that question.

186

Nope, they tried to get the body exhumed for an autopsy but the judge would not allow it.

I read the book about 8 years ago and coudn't remember for sure. I thought I had seen it in an article earlier today on the web. Thanks for the correction.

187 They" lyin eyes" the inebriated swimmer with Teddycare.Here's mine-They're both "shovel ready".

188 And I've noticed talk in the media of 'which Kennedy will replace Ted,' to be appointed by Deval Patrick of course after they change the law back (the Masshole legislature knows how important a 60 vote majority is, esp now, the proles be damned). 

189 I've found it interesting to note who does and doesn't care about Teddy's death.  Lib friends my age (mid-40s) and older seem to care, but the younger set haven't bothered to utter a peep about it.  Perhaps their tiny brains recognized him for the dinosaur that he was. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 27, 2009 03:07 PM

Actually I was talking to some of the 20-30 year olds at work and none of them seemed to care about the SOB's death, and they're all supposedly big time Liberals.  On the other hand, only one of the dozen or so had heard about Mary Jo.  They were all shocked when I told them the story and none tried to make excuses for Fat Ted.

190

My voice ringing in his ears even as we speak:

Chappaquiddick Chappaquiddick 

Chappaquiddick Chappaquiddick

Chappaquiddick Chappaquiddick

Chappaquiddick Chappaquiddick

Chappaquiddick Chappaquiddick

Chappaquiddick Chappaquiddick 

Chappaquiddick Chappaquiddick

Chappaquiddick Chappaquiddick

Chappaquiddick Chappaquiddick

Chappaquiddick Chappaquiddick

 

191 He was borderline treasonous during the Vietnam war, too. He was a useful tool to the enemy.

192 But Jimmy FUCKING Carter just told Judy Woodruff last night that, "He more than made up for that later..." 

193 Teddy made some mistakes regarding the Mary Jo incident.

Posted by: Dum-Dum at August 27, 2009 02:28 PM (VDj74)

What mistakes? He survived, didn't spend a night in jail and became a "conscience of Senate". You wrote you're not sure how you would react in the same circumstances, but I'm pretty sure you would react in the same way Teddy did.

194 I seem to remember prominent Democrats losing their ever-loving minds over the fact that the evil BusHitler sat and read "My Pet Goat" to elementary school kids for 7 minutes or so, after the first planes hit on 9/11.  Ted Kennedy on the other hand- 10 hours go by.... eh, what's the big deal?

195 Joseph's Kennedy's overwhelming desire for power created a family with all the negatives of "inherited wealth" with no sense of responsibility or consequences. One really wonders if Joe Sr. made a "faustain" bargain with the Devil himself.
The result a pox on the Kennedy DNA....
The Kennedy's have always been their own worst enemies...so the family has a history of self created disasters brought on by lack of judgement and control. The assaination of Robert and John (may they rest in peace) are the exceptions.
Teddy's behavior with Mary Joe was truly criminal, can't blame her family for taking money...would you like to have faced down the Kennedy's and their lawyers in 1969..(unless you are Tony Soprano).
TK was an endless steam on bad behavior, that has been replicated by the clan far and wide.

196 #181 Maetenloch   I firmly believe that at time that period, it was still a family disgrace to have a "loose" daughter running around with married man. A go to Church every Sunday family woud have been quite upset at this. The shame would have been widespread. And besides, again, at that time period, what could a family do. the "consulting" from all sides would have spread guilt on you and your family. Protect the powerful!

197 Another damning fact from the article: he was 37 years old at the time. For some reason I always assumed that he was pretty young when Chappaquiddick happened. Not so. At 37 you're pretty much are what you are.

And Ted Kennedy was a drunken cowardly piece of shit.

198 BTW......So some liberal nit wit poster (one of axelrod's stooges no doubt..) has to mention Laura Bush's accident when she was 17 years old. Great comparison....17 year old girl to 37 year old married senator driving drink with a single 28 year old woman.
Senator crashed car, leaves the scene, lies to frieneds, does not get help......
Can you say accident vs. murder......

199 Every man dies.

Not every man really lives.

Fewer still really live it up after committing felony murder.

Last week Teddy was the epitome of all that's wrong with American politics. Today he sympolizes our last, best hope.

200

Has anyone checked with the EPA to see if it's legal to bury that much alcohol soaked blubber anywhere but a hazardous waste landfill?

201 5 Teddy made some mistakes regarding the Mary Jo incident. However, the fact remains, that even if he went to one of those houses and called the police, Mary Jo would not have been saved. Too much time had passed.

Posted by: palin steele at August 27, 2009 02:28 PM (VDj74)

Fuck off.

202

Has anyone checked with the EPA to see if it's legal to bury that much alcohol soaked blubber anywhere but a hazardous waste landfill?

I understand he's being buried in Arlington. More fuel for the Eternal Flame!

203 Palin, Get off that computer and come up here - there's some old man at the door says he's here to pick you up for some party.  You didn't tell me you were going to a party tonight and who is this old geezer anyway?

204 I understand he's being buried in Arlington.

That's the final F-U to all the troops that earned the right to be buried there.  What a piece of shit.

205 The Kennedy mystique is "dead", the most successful politician connected to the family is an x-Austrian body builder who talks with a funny accent and claims to be a Republican but is really a RINO !
So, at the time of the next generation of Kennedys,, liberal dems are rescued by a man with no experience, a funny name, born somewhere between Hawaii and Africa (we don't know when) who happens to be Black. He has lots in common with the Kennedy's (appearence, religion, family background) enough to be called the 4th brother. Think Joe Sr. is happy right now...

206 204, Agree, it is insulting to all the brave soldiers who are at Arlington...and all those who have sacraficed.
Perhaps they should bury Teddy in the front yard at
Chavis Regal or at the Harvard Yard...perhaps they forgot about the explusions for cheating.

207 C'mon, who among us hasnt accidentally drowned a non-wife in a canal while drunk driving? Am I right?

208 If I were king I would throw his sorry fat ass in a dumpster, with no fanfare!

209 Also, I was 12 at the time and remember Paul Conrad's cartoon showing the Presidential Limo being pulled out of the water by the bridge.

210 Today he sympolizes our last, best hope.

Posted by: goy at August 27, 2009 04:02 PM (+Gze

Our last, best hope is rotting meat?

211 Nam Grunt, you would need a big dumpster for his big, fat ass....perhaps outside "au bar" in Palm Beach or one of his many "haunts" in DC.

212 An exchange with a lefty friend today:

Me: The Glenlivet shares plummet. Mary Jo Kopechne unavailable for comment.

Her: Oh, that's harshsh....

Me: Harsh? Driving a girl off a bridge at midnight, leaving her to drown, then not reporting the crime until 10 the next morning after her body had already been discovered, then having your family suppress all evidence, and get you a suspended sentence for merely leaving the scene of an accident - now that is harsh.

But, whatever, he's dead now, so hopefully she finally sleeps in peace.

Her: I guess I bristle at the supposition that he was not affected by his mistake. Maybe he wasn't but I like to give people the leeway to be human. Maybe he came to that personal peace with Mary Jo a long time ago.

Me: *face palm

213 Now that Kennedys don't have seniority, they'll get treated like the disfunctional white trash they are. It's not like they are billionaires.

214

Drowning Mary Jo is not the worst thing Teddy Kennedy did.

When the US pulled its ground troops out of South Vietnam, we promised to lend air support to defend them from the North.  When North Vietnam invaded, Ted Kennedy forced Congress to reneg on that pledge, dooming South Vietnam.  As a result, 165,000 South Vietnamese died like rats in re-education camps.  Another 1.6 million Vietnamese fled for their lives, a quarter million by boat, of whom a third died at sea.

Mary Jo was just the beginning.

215 212,Teddy's personal peace is a place, probably very hot, populated by woman who look like Bela Abzug or an overweight Rosie O Donnell.

216 Hey Palin Steele, I would LOVE to be shitting on Ted Kennedys grave right now. I would even eat a lot of corn just for the occasion. Fuck that murdering drunk cocksucker, and fuck you, you bastard.

217 214, Good Point !

218 Dum Dum, you really need to seek help. I'm not making a bad joke here. I'm serious. There's something seriously wrong with you. A normal person just doesn't do the things you do.

219 he was probably freaking out internally.

Posted by: palin steele at August 27, 2009 02:40 PM (VDj74)

LOL. Well then... as long as he was freaking out internally!

OMG that's hilarious! hahaha

220 #138  I guess you missed the story about the mistress he packed off to the Caribbean during the election then. Ace even had pics of the they met at. 

Albis:  Didn't see it.  I was kinda "occupied" at the time.  I don't remember Daily Kos Lite having any stories about it.
I guess it won't even take 6 months!  At least the MSM (now, like Pravda) won't talk about.

221 212, you illustrate why I have no lefty friends. Life is too short to be around people who vex me that much.

222 221, I've cut most of my lefty friends loose, as well.

It has been difficult, and I've been tempted to reach out a few times, but I've resisted.  There's no point.

Family, on the other hand, is a different matter.  It's difficult to know that people you grew up with and respected are flaming lefties or just too ignorant and self-absorbed to care about the rape of our country.

223 210 - Our last, best hope is rotting meat?

Posted by: Johnathan E. at August 27, 2009 04:19 PM (dQdrY)

Heh. I guess I have to spell it out: our last best hope is that these dirtbags die off of natural causes, because that seems to be the only way to end their lifetime incumbencies.

224 222, that's why I rarely talk politics with anyone. I have some friends I suspect might be Obots but I just avoid the subject.

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Here lies Ted:

A victim of his own ego.

226 152 Michael in MD'                           It would have been easy to save her if he was NOT injured. And NOT drunk.  Take it from an ex-10yr fireman. I once removed a man from a car in and accident in a hurry cause the thing started to burn.  It did not get bad, but I had no way of knowing that in advance.  I needed to get him out and the fire company had not arrived yet.  I was going to the mall with my sister and mom when I saw the accident happen.  When I got him out, he only had one leg.  But he seemed fine.  He told me he lost his leg at Pearl Harbor!  Not in the accident! Which explained everything then!

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Please God, let Danny Boy destroy the entire Kennedy compound and totally fuck up his funeral.

Mary Jo deserves no less.

Go Danny Go!

Kemp

228 My old man is buried at Arlington .
Fat Teddy should not rest with our honored dead on that sacred ground .
Can anything be done about it ? Nope.
I take some comfort in knowing that Ted will be denied entrance into Valhalla .

229 the only way to end their lifetime incumbencies.

Posted by: goy at August 27, 2009 04:44 PM (+Gze

So that would be...Yes?

230 If he gets cremated-he'll burn for a week.He'll be prepared for the infernal regions,though.

231 I am so glad you blogged this.

You see, it's not a D or an R issue at all. It's simply a shit humanity story. That Kennedy let a woman die, hid it, denied it, evaded all consequences and eventually paid Mary Jo's family 140k...speaks volumes not just about Kennedy but an entire justice system unable to grow a spine and prosecute this piece of shit. And a bunch of idiots who continued to reward him at the polls every few years. Yea, you know who you are. I wouldn't have voted this loser in as dogcatcher.

Why would I ever think a chronic alcoholic could come to terms with what a shitty human being he was? I wouldn't. And so I'll have just a piece of sympathy for a spiritually diseased Kennedy-a little more than he showed Mary Jo and her family. Even if its very little.

232 They better bury him close to Jack's grave, because I assume it is under continual surveillance. Otherwise, who knows? There could be vandalism or somethin'.

233 Comment from Planet Liberal:

"As for Chappaquiddik, I firmly believe he was set up in that case. Whoever did it was, unfortunately, successful, because it spoiled any chances for him to be President. He would have been an outstanding President.
--Gary Skarka, South Thomaston, ME (submitted on Aug. 26, 2009)"

Now, I ask you, honestly,

What in God's name, ever made us think, we could reason with these idiots?

234 # 214  Tantor  When the US pulled its ground troops out of South Vietnam, we promised to lend air support to defend them from the North.  When North Vietnam invaded, Ted Kennedy forced Congress to reneg on that pledge, dooming South Vietnam.

Yes.  You are correct.  Thanks for mentioning it.  I rember the "boat people" at an army base then.  We went by the razor wire fences with armed soldiers guarding them.  We were young teenagers in a Ford Bronco and a driver who did not like them their.  She was another friends aunt.  Of course a heavy drinking, slutty aunt, to be sure, but a lib none the less.

235 The behavior of the Kennedy family over the past 100 years should have the FBI at the JFK Library taking photos of the assembled criminals and psychopaths.

236
2 of teddy's beloved brothers just recently died, now he just crashed a car and another close one may be dead...are you honestly gonna imagine what his mindset was?

he was probably freaking out internally.

Posted by: palin steele at August 27, 2009 02:40 PM (VDj74)

DUM DUM, DIM Bulb, Dipshit, dogshit, candy ass...I keep descending in my attempt to describe you with the proper invective. SO, let me humbly try it this way:

Whether you are a man (a pussy of a man) or a woman ( a miserable C**T) or some surgically modified cross over SUV/SOB...I read your pointless, argumentative ramblings attempting to provide cover for the lowest form of leftist scum, pro big-smothering-nanny state-marxist assholes and I come to only one conclusion.

You would play the shill for HELL itself, you would defend a child molester who was a leftist, you would cover up a serious crime and perform oral sex on a farm animal if your political masters indicated you should do so.

Over all, the lack of depth, lack of insight, lack of humor, and the pasty, basement apartment living adult child mooching off its/his/her/whatever's parents feel of your posts reminds me of needing to take a shit. But having to hold it until you get home...a gassy, unpleasant cramping sensation. That's you.

That's you, the unpleasant sensation of having to take a shit, maybe at Lowe's or WalMart or in the middle of your drive to work. You, Dum Dum, remind me of my excrement, as does Howard Dean, Duh one, also known as Urkel X, and Slow Joe Biden, the Special Olympics Veep. His limousine is probably a damn short school bus with you sitting in the back seat, picking your nose and eating it, or eating your own scabs. Keeping your own company, that.

Dum Dum, you're less than pathetic: you're worthless. As in being without value of any sort. I'd make a joke about loofa pads and scrubbing your mama's ass or something, but that's been done to death, I'll leave you off my 'worth posting about' list and just remind you that that last three 3! child molesters in Congress were Dems, Libs, and stayed until they were voted out, finally. You'd like em...

Guara-damn-teed.

Your side likes child predators, and ending the lives of old folks to save tax money so it can be wasted on other bloated programs. You are lower than the shit that flushes to my septic tanks. At least shit can fertilize.

You are, in fact, worthless, judging by your posts defending the indefensible. Like alibiing for dead shithook philanderer and drunk lecher Ted SwinCoach Kennedy, the Gin on the rocks senator. He was a piece of shit and a well connected manslaughterer (womanslaughterer, to be correct.). He should lie in state in a trash dumpster covered with rotten food and catshit.

Can I be any more condescending and rude to the likes of you?

Sure, just watch your screen. If you're not loofaing the dried semen off your mother's ass. Tough work with the fans not working in that little bathroom huh?

Nasty. You. Shit. Quite the team. 

You make my skin crawl. Like watching MJ around school kids, Kennedy wobbling drunk around young women at political rallies...

237

In the summer of '69 (I was 15 at the time) my family drove to central Louisiana to visit relatives.  My uncle was an investigator for the outfit now known as Experian.  At one point during the visit, my uncle took us to see his office.  In those days before computers were ubiquitous, his office was mainly a huge room full of file cabinets.  While there he regaled us with stories on some of the famous people of the time and some of their various pecadillos know to him and his employer, but not generally known by the public.

And yes, he mentioned Teddy Kennedy, as a well-known drunkard and womanizer.  Being a naive youth who idolized the Kennedys at the time, I was rather scandalized by this, and didn't really believe him.

A week or so later the Chappaquiddick story broke, as did a number of my delusions about the Kennedy clan.

238 Other than that, how is everybody?

239 palin steele: I'm not really defending him. I just think it's in bad taste to be shitting on the grave of someone barely 2 days dead is all.


We need to shit on him now, before they bury him at Arlington.

Defecating on his grave in Arlington would be an insult to the servicemen buried near him.

240 palin steele;    I have a C130 you can park your car in and see if you get out of the car after we drope it 100 miles east of Atlantic City!  There is plenty of space their to park.  And AC has great food, drinks, and 1/2 naked women!

You in!

241 The late, swollen and bloated body of the pasty assed senior Big Stare Advocate from the Glorious Worker's Paradise of Massachussetts, Ted "I, uh parked my uh,cah, in the watuh, and uh, some gal was in the-uh cah, and I needed a uh, drink, uh, so I let her bah-row the uh,cah, down there-uh in the uh, watuh, and went about my uh, business, uh..." Kennedy will lie in state in a trash dumpster in Boston's North End for two weeks or until his carcass starts killing the weaker rats, and then he will be hauled out to the family plot on Martha's Vineyard and dumped into the family septic tank, a fitting place of repose for the largest piece of shit to leaver Washington DC in the last decade, and that includes the country's finest selection of shit, we can all agree.

Bon Voyage, Senator Swim Bladder, every flush of the toilet is a salute to you...
a serious source of shit...

242 OOPsie..."Big STATE advocate above...my bad

243 Palin Steele -- not that you will care, but that statement is false.

When they pulled Mary Jo from the car, she had pushed her head up into the rear window in the back, where the bubble of air was the longest. She was alive for some time in that car, waiting to drown.

It is quite possible that if he had gone to the nearest house that she could have been saved. But Kennedy needed to get to his spin doctors first, and that is what made it too late.

244

At least Mary Jo wasn't waterboarded. Imagine the dem-lead congressional hearings and prosecutions that would have caused.

245 230 -- Chico, he's already there, took the Kennedy express.

246

And do we really need any more evidence that le grande imbecile is nothing more than a pathetic little worm?

Maybe somebody should warn that girlfriend of his (I know, those kind usually float, but she might have sprung a leak, and will be at le imbecile's tender mercies).

And perhaps Dummy isn't a good name for him -- I vote for renaming le imbecile "Gollum" (or Smeagol, take your pick).  Because that is also the mental picture I get everytime it posts -- now more than ever!

247

Oh, and get this when reflecting on the benevolences of Mr. Kennedy:

Meanwhile, listening to ”Reflections on Sen. Kennedy … Lion of the Senate” on the Diane Rehm Show on the drive home last night, I was deeply moved to hear Newsweek’s Ed Klein tell guest host Katty Kay about Kennedy’s love of humor. How the late senator loved to hear and tell Chappaquiddick jokes, and was always eager to know if anyone had heard any new ones. Not that Kennedy lacked remorse, Klein quickly added, seeming to intuit that my jaw and perhaps those of other listeners had just hit the floorboards. I gather it was a self-deprecating maneuver on Kennedy’s part, exercised with the famous Kennedy charm, though it sounds like one of those “I guess you had to have been there” things.

From Jules Crittenden blog HT Small Dead Animals.

248 ...are you honestly gonna imagine what his mindset was?

Blind drunk and terminally stupid has always been a bad combination...

249 How the late senator  child predator singer MJ loved to hear and tell Chappaquiddick Michael Jackson jokes, and was always eager to know if anyone had heard any new ones. Not that Kennedy Jackson lacked remorse, Klein quickly added, seeming to intuit that my jaw and perhaps those of other listeners had just hit the floorboards. I gather it was a self-deprecating maneuver on Kennedy Jacko's part, exercised with the famous Kennedy charm Creepy Jackson smarm and detachment, though it sounds like one of those “I guess you had to have been there,  preying on the weak and young ” things.

Posted by: Orlin Bowman at August 27, 2009 07:16 PM (UaXgX)

 Zounds, two great victimizers can share the same shitty eulogy meme. Outstanding, flushing two towering pieces of shit with one paragraph.

Glad I could fix that for ya. Now any Jacko fan who runs across this blog can go back to drinking wine out of a soda can, an MJ tradition, and looking at child porn. Another Jacko standby, you can be sure...Dum Dum, that prolly includes your sorry ass.

250 I'm in a bloody mood this fine evening, and Dum Dum(bass) gets the nod for ass to get zeroed out frequently. Too bad it's not close enough to punch a few times just to establish a rhythm...shucks.

251

"to keep the women from going off on some hare-brained rescue attempt that might jeopardize their lives."

Seems old Bloat suspected the average chick had more balls than him. Perhaps the one time in his life he was right.

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253 What does palin steele have to do to get banned, kill a kitten by bacon overdose?

Shun the fucker.

254 maybe the devil will fuck that fat killer in the ass for the next million years

255

Chappaquidick was a tragic misfortune that unfolded in a way that warrants examination, if not condemnation of bad judgment  and behavior on the part of Ted Kennedy. In this day and time, due process woud surely have served Mary Jo and her family justly .The incident and how it was handled was tragic on so many levels...

However, Right or Left, you cannot argue that Ted Kennedy was a true statesman.  Many have forgiven him, and focused on his social advocacy and his life work that focused on the less fortunate.

Let the man rest in peace.

256

Sandman,

are you for real?  Were you drinking when you posted?  You sure have a lot to say...

Your post to palin steel reminded me of  mentally challenged schizophrenics who would end up at the county psych ward.  Have you ever been there?

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