1 Woohoo!

2 1st

3 Its a trap!

4

Sayin' first is a sure way to come in 2nd.

But I first announced this on the previous thread.

5 It's like Rush just said. These Senators and Representatives are going to get a fargin' earful during the August recess. This might just turn out all right.

Of course I've been guilty of misunderestimating just how dumb people can be, and just how duplicitous our Congresscritters can be. So, there you go.

6 This may not be Obama's Waterloo, but it is surely his Mamma Mia.

7 It’s better to get a product that’s based on quality and thoughtfulness...

but that's never stopped us before!

8 This may not be Obama's Waterloo, but it is surely his Mamma Mia.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 23, 2009 01:47 PM (T0NGe)

I'd like to think of it as his winter campaign in the Russias.

9 I'd like to think that this is Obama's Battle of the Network Stars.

10 Is this for real or is this just a way to get people to stop calling them and then come around with a vote right before the recess to showcase how brilliant a leader Obama is after all?

Yes I know.   I can't help that I'm a cynic by nature.

11 Why does Reid hate tonsils?

Why is he in the pocket of Big Tonsil?

12

The turd in Obama's punch bowl.

13

Whose head made the bigger asplosion -- Obama's or Emmanuel's?

14 Everyone knows the doctors are robber barons.

15 Congress goes on recess, raising the life expectancy of senior citizens by several months.

16   I'd like to think that hussein obama just got gonged by Jaye P. Morgan.

17 Well, at least that motherfucker will have plenty of time to finish his waffle.

18 Obama is right to be very concerned about the number of tonsilectomies the White House Press Corps has had.  Reduces the pleasure considerably.

19 Now is my chance to make my tonsil yanking fortune!

20

Marxist health care plan looks less likely... Dow goes way up.

No connection there, nope, no sirree... just move along now.

21 Posted by: AmishDude at July 23, 2009 01:47 PM (T0NGe)

Heh.

I was trying to come up with a good analogy but the closest I could come up with was the arrival of the Prussians on the field but that seemed to obscure.

22 Give your representatives an earful during the recess.  If they hold a town meeting, be sure and show up.  Keep writing, keep calling.  Push the competitive aspects of the Republican plan.  Multi-state options and groups, ala carte plans, expanded MSA's, personal tax credits for insurance, etc.

With any luck, the current plan will fail in toto.  Best case would be for the Democrats in Congress to take the Republican's ideas, implement them, and claim victory for themselves.

I could live with that easily.

23 There are times when I think that the only reason that the Congress passes bills are to justify their existence. Maybe we should just ask ourselves if we need a full time Congress. I would love to see a Congress start sorting through the legislation we have now and start throwing stuff out. Clean house on legislation and then clean house on legislators. Or vice versa.

24 Politico's headline:
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Democrats are punting on the August health deadline

25

Obama was supposed to close the deal on health care and instead goes off script about his good friend Harvard Professor of Outrage™ Skip Gates.

So people are not particularly into health care, they are talking about Gates, and basically Obama is worse off than if he didn’t have a press conference.

Or is he? Health care is Obama’s Waterloo, not if it fails but if it passes. When a craptastic system screws up everyone’s insurance and explodes the deficit, the Dems will be driven into the wilderness. Maybe Obama wants to lose at this point.

 

26 It may not be Waterloo, but it is beginning to have the feel of Napoleon's retreat from Moscow.

27

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28 idiotic democrats managed to find a way to fuck themselves over, even with a supermajoirty.  unbelievable.

But clearly Democrats are afraid of where the political conversation is going on health care. White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and Obama’s top Hill liaison, Phil Schiliro, ducked into a meeting Thursday afternoon with Blue Dog Democrats who have held up the House version of the bill.

Reid said the Senate would try to complete a package in the fall. And he was merely confirming what Majority Whip Dick Durbin had said Wednesday, when he said a bill would not be passed before the upper chamber breaks for recess on August 7. 

Also on Thursday, a group of nine Democratic freshmen senators signed a letter urging Senate Finance Chairman Max Baucus to craft a bill that gets “health care costs under control so we can compete in the global marketplace.”

“In the face of exploding debt and deficits, however, we are concerned that too little focus has been given to the need for cost containment,” the senators wrote. “We believe that any final bill must include innovation, hard decisions, and incentives to bend the cost curve.”

The letter was sent by Democratic Sens. Mark Warner of Virginia, Michael Bennet and Mark Udall of Colorado, Mark Begich of Alaska, Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire, Roland Burris of Illinois, Jeff Merkley of Oregon, Kay Hagan of North Carolina and Tom Udall of New Mexico.

29

“It’s better to get a product that’s based on quality and thoughtfulness than on trying to just get something through,” Reid told reporters.

In that case, to hell with waiting until after the break - they should wait until after the mid-term election.

30 I guess no one remembered when I jumped the shark.  Well fuck all of you!

31 Will you stop with the "Whip Dick" Durbin stuff? It's so juvenile.

32 If the Republicans were smart, they would keep their mouths shut and offer to pay for a Presidential press conferance every week.

33 Hold on to your Hagen Daz stock until after the recess.

34 OT and sorry about my lack of knowledge. Anybody know who Larry Sinclair is? Just saw a thing on free republic about a book of his. If this guy isn't a looney it sounds like some pretty damning stuff about our favorite (all hail obama) individual.

35 OT but FUNNY

I visit Democrats.org occasionally, and one foaming at the mouth commenter strikes me as unusually foamy. 

"Morning again, Dems.....

Another rainy day here again today and tomorrow. I have never seen a summer like this one before. It has rained far more than the sun has shined. If this is not Climate Change, then tell me what is!"

1 PamB on July 23,


WOW

Her prez got his ass handed to him so hard that this one resorts to 'Climate change'.. LOL!

36 I guess that the reviews of The One's presser weren't so hot...

37 34 OT and sorry about my lack of knowledge. Anybody know who Larry Sinclair is? Just saw a thing on free republic about a book of his. If this guy isn't a looney it sounds like some pretty damning stuff about our favorite (all hail obama) individual.

I'm betting that (a) Sinclair is a world-class looney and (b) there is some pretty damning stuff.  But because of (a), I won't take any of it seriously.

38

Obama still has no idea what is in the health care bill as written and really has no idea what should be in any health care bill.  He's going off talking points and nothing else.

Obama is an empty suit, and nothing more.  He's a Manchurian Candidate: an unwitting (not because he's been brainwashed; because he's dumb) tool to get what the radical wing of the Democratic Party wants: socialism.  They feed him what he should say, gives him his talking points, and watch a slim majority of the electorate fawn over his background story and supposed oratory skills.

He's a product line, not a politician.  The only problem is, people are starting to see that he's all sizzle and no steak.  When he's backed into a corner with no TOTUS or talking points, he hems and haws and looks even more foolish than when he tries to throw a baseball.

He's in this presidency for himself.  He couldn't give two shits about the state of the country or the government or the people.  He wants to rewrite history - not for America, but for him.  That's what he gets out of it.  A big ego boost.

Don't stop pestering your representatives about health care and cap-n-tax.  They are most likely facing reelection before Obama; make sure they know they will pay long before Obama does.

39 This would be a really, really good time for the chief of staff of every Republican senator and governor to make sure that his boss hasn't decided to spend some unscheduled quality time in the Appalachians . . . IYKWIMAITYD.

40 Drew - check out Gallup.com

OBAMA AT LOWEST POINT IN PRESIDENCY - GALLUP HAS DONE NO WRITEUP BUT THE CHART IS DAMNING LINES STREAKING DOWN

Please get teh chart up as a post.

he's minus 2 approval/plus 3 disapproval just TODAY.

HIGHEST DISAPPROVAL OF PRESIDENCY

55/39

41
In case you didn't hear me : I MEAN IT.

42

I side with Gates only because if I do not defend assholes one  day they they will come for fellow assholes like myself. 

This Gates thing has nothing to do with race and everything to do with some crank mouthing off to a cop.  But hey, if you cannot mouth off to a cop in your own home, there is no liberty. 

But this tonsil thing by Obama is nuts.  Does he get his health data from watching reruns of the Brady Bunch.  They have stopped removing tonsils on a regular basis for decades. 

Why not go with Andrew Sullivan's favorite cause (other than tormenting the Palins and searching for Trig Trutherism) male genital mutilation (aka circumcision)?  I am sure we can save a trillion billion dollars in costs if we stopped that procedure.  We only do it because evil Christianist Jew doctors do not want Andrew Sullivan to have satisfactory orgasms.  Oh wait, Muslims get circumcized too.  Nevermind. 

43 somebody needs to tell obama, he is getting ready to do another townhall pushing this bs as tho we will die if its not passed in a couple weeks...

44 My doctor has a large book in his personal office titled, "Painful Operations That Pay the Most Money."  He also drives the dreaded Cadillac.  Prick.

45

#37 Posted by: AmishDude at July 23, 2009 02:05 PM (T0NGe) -

Thanks AD. btw, enjoy your posts. We seem to think alike a lot of the time.

46 #40: I saw the chart.  It's a sharp drop in approval and an equally sharp rise in disapproval.  No real change in Ras, though.  Still -7 index.  51/48.

47    I heard the JOOOO DOCTORS use our goy tonsils to make matzoh ball soup!

48 My doctor has a large book in his personal office titled, "Painful Operations That Pay the Most Money."

Its a cookbook!

49 All your tonsils are belong to me.

50

 

Barry: You are destroying my presidency. Wwaaaaaaaaaaaa

51
Racism is on the rise in this country because gooogle searches for 'racism' is higher than normal levels.

52 He's in this presidency for himself.  He couldn't give two shits about the state of the country or the government or the people.

Or his party.  They're waking up to that now.

53
Those guys at Zero Hedge always find the most amazing videos.

54 Racism is on the rise in this country because gooogle searches for 'racism' is higher than normal levels.

Posted by: Tweets Larry Summers at July 23, 2009 02:12 PM (zFt39)

It is a ruse. Google is Skynet.

55 Funniest comment I've read all day, by the incomparable lorien1973 at HA:

Big Tonsil has time to claim more innocent victims.

56 Posted by: teej at July 23, 2009 02:10 PM (c459z)

Thanks, teej.  It often doesn't occur to me that anybody reads what I post.  It's therapudic.

Well, that's what my doctor says, of course he's somehow making money off of it, I know.

I have to go now.  I have to go to the hospital to get my tonsils removed.  It's the third time this month.

57
Wait.

Is it just me or does Harry Reid consider a bill with Max Baucus and Kent Conrad and the rest of the leftwing Democrats a bipartisan bill?

58 Hey, I WON dammit!!!11!!

59

No politician goes on television or does a town hall or whatever unless he has something to lose.  If this was a done deal, then Obamaa would keep his mouth shut and stop the hemmoraging.

Keep calling.  Keep demanding NO MEDICAL WELFARE bill.  Tell your friends that you don't want this stupid, socialist medical welfare bill.  Keep telling them this is Obama's way of sticking it to the little guy.  Axleturf if you have to. 

Say, "I used to really think this guy knew what he was doing.  With this medical welfare bill, he's just sticking it to the little guy.  I guess I was wrong.  I would never vote for him if I knew what he was going to do."

60 Presidency status: ruined.

Bammy will now go cry into his arugula and smoke a few Kools.

Mua ha ha!

61 there are few cigarettes gayer than Kools

62 This tonsil fodder is keeping me upbeat today. To think the late night comics have no material to make jokes about Prez Jug Ears is a hilarious in and of itself. This shit writes itself.

63 No bill before recess means that they'll have to release the mid-year economic report before they can get back to it....and that means it's probably DEAD.

64 No vote now, no vote EVER.

65

Looks like Obama's pro death policy initiatives are working including his push to pay for abortions through federal funding.

See below.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

 

NY nurse threatened, forced to assist in late-term abortion

ADF attorneys file lawsuit against hospital for violating Christian nurse’s rights of conscience
Wednesday, July 22, 2009

NEW YORK — Alliance Defense Fund attorneys filed a lawsuit Tuesday against Mount Sinai Hospital on behalf of a Catholic nurse who was forced to participate in a late-term abortion under the threat of disciplinary action, including possible termination and loss of her license. The hospital has known of her religious objections to abortion since 2004.

Hospital administrators told the nurse that the scheduled abortion was an “emergency,” though evidence shows otherwise, and insisted moments before the procedure that she assist doctors despite her repeated objections to the procedure, which dismembered a preborn child in the 22nd week of gestation. By federal law, hospitals that receive federal funds cannot force employees to participate in abortion procedures under any circumstances.

“Pro-life nurses shouldn’t be forced to assist in abortions against their beliefs,” said ADF Legal Counsel Matt Bowman. “Requiring a devout, Catholic nurse to participate in a late-term abortion in order to remain employed is illegal, unethical, and violates her rights of conscience. Federal law requires that employers who receive funding from tax dollars must not compel employees to violate their sincerely held religious beliefs, but this nurse’s objections fell on deaf ears.”

“Chasing away workers from the health care field is disastrous health care policy,” said Bowman. “An individual’s conscience is likely what brought them to the health care field. Denying or coercing their conscience will likely drive them right out.”

Administrators at Mount Sinai Hospital threatened senior nurse Cathy Cenzon-DeCarlo with disciplinary measures if she did not honor a last-minute summons to assist in a scheduled late-term abortion. Despite the fact that the patient was not in crisis at the time of the surgery, the hospital insisted on her participation in the procedure on the grounds that it was an “emergency” even though the procedure was not classified as such.

“Category I” is the classification reserved for “patients requiring immediate surgical intervention for life or limb threatening conditions.” The surgery in this case was classified as “Category II,” for operations needing to take place within six hours, indicating that the hospital had no reason to insist upon Cenzon-DeCarlo’s assistance in the abortion in order to protect the patient. Plenty of time existed to find a different nurse to assist, especially since evidence indicates that the patient’s condition did not rise even to a Category II. In fact, Cenzon-DeCarlo observed no indications that the abortion was a medical emergency while in the operating room.

ADF attorneys filed the complaint in Cenzon-DeCarlo v. The Mount Sinai Hospital with the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York. They are also requesting a preliminary injunction that would order the hospital to honor Cenzon-DeCarlo’s religious objection against assisting in abortion and refrain from retaliation against her while the case moves forward. New York ADF-allied attorneys Joseph Ruta and Piero Tozzi are serving as local counsel in the case.  

66

No bill before recess means that they'll have to release the mid-year economic report before they can get back to it....and that means it's probably DEAD.

Let's not get cocky just yet. I am not breathing easy until the November 2010 election results are in.

67 Zero likes to pretend it's not about him. Oh yeah, it is about him, all about him, and all his commie/socialist bullshit beliefs.

68 Just make sure you put those tonsils under your pillow!

69 Y'all just want Chinese, Indian, and Jewish doctors to steal the black man's tonsils!

70 63 No bill before recess means that they'll have to release the mid-year economic report before they can get back to it....and that means it's probably DEAD.

--- wha? There's some special rule that you can't lie in a mid-year economic report?

71

You know what else comes out August 7?

July's possibly double-digit unemployment rate.

72 Posted by: Cuffy Meigs at July 23, 2009 02:55 PM (JefgB)

And he won't be able to hold off the mid year budget numbers that long either.

BTW-How in hell is July considered 'mid-year' when the US fiscal year runs October-September? 

Only the federal government could do that.

73

Or is he? Health care is Obama’s Waterloo, not if it fails but if it passes. When a craptastic system screws up everyone’s insurance and explodes the deficit, the Dems will be driven into the wilderness. Maybe Obama wants to lose at this point.

You underestimate them.  The bill doesn't go into full effect until 2013, and that's no coincidence whatsoever.

74

SHAKER HEIGHTS, Ohio – President Barack Obama is acknowledging the Senate won't make his deadline for a vote on overhauling health care, and he says, "That's OK."

Speaking in a Cleveland suburb on Thursday, Obama said, "I just want people to keep on working."

 

What? I thought it had to be passed ASAP or the world would end.

75

The bill doesn't go into full effect until 2013, and that's no coincidence whatsoever.

Effin' A, Bubba.

76

“It’s better to get a product that’s based on quality and thoughtfulness than on trying to just get something through,” Reid told reporters.

Is there anyone out there who thinks this gang of clowns can put together anything whatsoever "based on quality and thoughtfulness"?

77

78 You can take my tonsils, but you can't take my freedom!

79 My first post ever... I could be wrong on this but doesn't this goernment run insurance plan ( along with the government run banks) smack of socialism.. and what happened to all the republican voters of the not to distant last century, did they all move to Mexico or die or what.

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