1 "Would you let you're child or grandchild in the same room as Michael Jackson?"

Now I would.

2 sober assessment, i assume he isnt to fond of the MJ stamp and Jacko Day Rev. AL proposed. Rep. King will have someone marching on his doorstep tomorrow.

3

Very well said. 

4 But what about McNamara, the man whom gave us BOTH the Edsel and Kennedy and LBJ's Vietnam policies?

5 put plainly and well

6 I'm not so sure he was a pedophile. The Court of Dr. Manhattan is still out on that one.

If anyone has any real tangible proof, I'd like to hear it. I'm all ears.

7 Michael Jackson day? Just what we need. I mean, the Hallmark card practically writes itself.

Roses are Red,
Violets are blue,
Macaulay Culkin turned out normal,
how about you?

8 Even if it isn't obvious from that documentary and the fact his personal videographer was a gay porn producer, you just don't pay somebody 15 million dollars to shut up because they have nothing to say.

9 Fuckin' A

10

"Would you let you're child or grandchild in the same room as Michael Jackson?"



Depends,........is he still in the morgue ?

11 In view of previous commentary, Ace, THIS is an amusing post. (Fine then! Let's do a Michael Jackson post! ...Morons...)

What's next? Harry Potter or Transformers?

12
Even if it isn't obvious from that documentary and the fact his personal videographer was a gay porn producer, you just don't pay somebody 15 million dollars to shut up because they have nothing to say.


Amen, especially when the questions concerning your reputation and credibility don't get answered in a court of law.

13 But Rocks, keep in mind, this is the same idiot that went on 4-5million dollar spending sprees. Money solved everything. I'm not convinced he had the mental capacity to make decent legal decisions.  Jackson said he just wanted it to go away and money made that happen.   I don't know, but I can see him thinking that way and not realizing the long-term consequences of paying somebody off. 

14 Hear, hear.

15 Hee hee hee.

16 Via Malkin:

"Fans of Michael Jackson and his legacy stand united against Peter King's hateful words. Please donate here to show Peter King that true MJ fans won't stand for the smearing of a pop sensation!"

17 #6 He paid an undisclosed amount of STFU $$$. Case closed.

18 Wow, I like this guy. Wonder when the Politically Correct will land on his door like a meteor? I would guess soon.

The truth shall not be spoken, especially by politicians or other people that need to keep a reputation.

This may be the first ... in your face ... fuck off ... by a politician that I've seen in far far too long. I love it.

19 love it; good job pete king

20 thumbs up

21 There are sane people in New York? Who knew? CNN does not show them.

22 They should lock up a bunch of pimping parents, too.

23 Heh, funny stuff.  And sadly, spot on.  It's enough with this crap.  Put the guy in the ground already so the 9-year olds can get some much-deserved peaceful sleep.

24 Nice pair of stones on that guy.  Let's send him some bacon in appreciation.

25 In many ways Michael Jackson was simply the realization of a creature the media has been working on for more than fifty years. I'm talking about the Celebrity Freak, a creature who began as a musician or actor or athlete but ends by being an exhibit in a fifty-cent carny freakshow. Elvis was the vanguard, the eidolon of what was to come -- Michael Jackson was the full, fulminant, rotten flower.

Who cares now that Jackson once was a singer? His celebrity had long since left the realm of music. He fascinated the public in the same way that a gruesome car accident fascinates the passers-by. There is gore and wreckage, to be sure, but there is also a sexual prurience at play, a certain pleasure that this horrible spectacle happened to someone other than oneself. It is a horrible entertainment, but entertainment all the same.

Look at the wizened carcass in Jackson's coffin. Bleached, blanched, hairless, scarred inside and out, ruined, weird, probably a pederast. This creature was once a handsome young man of no small talent...and yet here he lies, his soul a blackened little cinder. His family descends like a murder of crows to pick at the flesh, and caw angrily when anyone else strays too close.

This, this is "popular culture". Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, and others like them are handmaidens waiting for their day under the freakshow's kliegs. Madonna, that old whore, hawks tickets and steals the receipts. The rubes and marks in the audience don't come to see the freaks sing or dance. They come to see the freaks be freaks, and they hope and pray for the day when the freak finally collapses and dies on stage.

This is entertainment. It is medicine for the deadly ennui of life in the richest and most powerful society the world has ever known. At the apex of our power, at the summit of our skills, we do not seek out museums or concert halls or galleries or even the comforts of hearth and home. No, we shuffle off to the ratty little carnival at the edge of town, plunk down our two bits, and watch the freaks caper.

(Monty hates people. O yes he does.)

26 That huge crowd in LA is gonna spread the swine flu around, isn't it?

27 26 That huge crowd in LA is gonna spread the swine flu around, isn't it?

Posted by: torabora at July 06, 2009 10:22 PM (UssuC)

You say that like it's a bad thing.

28 Guess Peter King never got the memo that people in this country are innocent until proven guilty.

All your circumstantial evidence and 8 bits will get you a cup of coffee.

29 I really don't get this whole thing.  His primary entertainment value for the past 20 years was as the subject of supermarket tabloid articles.  He hasn't done anything creative since 1987.

On the other hand, neither has George Lucas.

30 @25 ... damn I've been reading this blog too long. I knew that was Monty before I even scrolled far enough down to see the name.

31 Monty,

Well said.

Who will speak up for that little boy who died a long time ago?

32 Its too easy to blame Jackson's descent into crazy-town on the media. Was he a spectacle? Yeah he was, but so was Madonna. Madonna didn't try to buy the Elephant Man's remains, build a home amusement park or fondle kids. She just married a gay British guy and now sings with a British accent.

No, there was a special crazy to Jackson, you can blame Joe, you can blame his life in the spotlight growing up, but don't blame the media or the spotlight. Fame sometimes has a heavy price and people deal with it in different ways, but Jackson was in a whole different realm of crazy and I think it had to do with his wiring more then constant adoration and exposure.

33 Monty, are you saying that Michael Jackson was a real life Dorian Gray?

34 Maybe we can combine Michael Jackson Day with Martin Luther King Jr. Day.  Why not, Washington and Lincoln have to squeeze their asses into the same day, don't they?

35 RKG, I have a question: Are you a lawyer?

36 RKG,

Peter King is not a Court of Law. He can call MJ anything he wants.

How's your OJ lunchbox holding up?

37 Aaaah, pure, unadulterated racism.

Truly breathtaking.

How come minorities never vote Republican?

And when the press does cover Iraq and Afghanistan war deaths...the Republicans bitch about that, too.

Circling the drain....

Did you notice that I'm pretty much reduced to babbling these days? That's what happens when you get into your mom's Vagasil and swallow too much of it.

38 It sounds like a pretty honest assessment which is why King will be vilified for saying it.

39 I'm just curious, since Rep King said , as if it were fact, that Jackson was a pedophile and a child molester, does that open him up to any kind of legal problems?  Slander, libel etc? 

Anybody with legal background know? 

40 But how does this affect Sarah Palin's decision to run in 2012???? God I can't take the tension!!!!!

41 As I'm sure Queen Sarah will also note, the Democrats have been a great party for minorities. After all, they have run our inner-cities in a sterling manner for the past 60 years, what's not to like? Sure, crime is rampant, high school graduation rates are in the teens and there is virtually no family structure at all, but hey, the Democrats care about minorities and always say the right things. Sure glad we got this clean and articulate minority around.

42 Ruh Roh, Rep. King will be one of the first people sent off to the reeducation camps.  The P.C. police will be calling for his head just because he called attention to the elephant in the funeral parlor.  Yeah, the media created Michael, they tore him down and now they are rewriting their own history.  Unbelievable.

43 btw - I'm not saying Jackson wasn't a child molester, so don't flame me.  heh.  I happen to think he was pretty weird.  I was just asking about the legal blowback of saying it outloud like that.

44 I'm not convinced he had the mental capacity to make decent legal decisions. 

Posted by: me at July 06, 2009 10:15 PM (7/syK)

Don't believe a word of that bs. MJ was shrewd enough to screw Paul McCartney out of  half the Beatles catalog. The guy was no dummy. It was all an act, along with Neverland, to appear harmless and get at children.  It was no different than John Wayne Gacy and his clown bit except MJ didn't need to resort to killing. He just paid off the parents. All pedos have that schitck, most don't have the entire media helping them out like Jackson did.  Candy, puppies, tickets, they all really "love" children don't ya know?

45

 

Holy shit Monty...that was great.

46 Me,

Probably he won't be open to much legal liability, Jackson was a public figure which requires a pretty high burden for defamation actions.

47 there was a special crazy to Jackson

Oh, no question. Yet there are thousands upon thousands who are equally mad and self-destructive. But the rich can afford to be eccentric rather than just crazy; Howard Hughes, for example. Poor crazy people (to paraphrase the manservant Hobson) urinate outdoors, have very few teeth, and freeze to death in summer. The media cares nothing about their comings and goings.

But a celebrity! Ah, that changes things. With a celebrity it's not simply wealth; even rich people can go crazy in private. A celebrity, though, goes crazy on camera. The descent into madness is carefully chronicled, picked over, laughed at, and often abetted by the celebrity him or herself. Every arrest, every OD, every broken relationship, failed comeback, pounds gained or lost, is laid open like a gutted frog for the public to marvel over. And to a certain kind of performer -- an insecure kind, a person of mediocre talent but large luck -- finds this attention valuable. It is intrusive, embarassing, infuriating...but it beats indifference. At the very least it guarantees spectators at the funeral.

48 I'm just curious, since Rep King said , as if it were fact, that Jackson was a pedophile and a child molester, does that open him up to any kind of legal problems?  Slander, libel etc? 

Anybody with legal background know? 

Posted by: me at July 06, 2009 10:31 PM (7/syK)

None, The dead can't be slandered or libeled, they are dead and have no reputation any longer.

49 He's not wrong.

50

Monty,

Well written as always. I hope Ace vets and  invites you as a guest blogger. 

51 Rocks, I guess in my mind, I separated the predatory tendencies of a pedophile with his capacity to make legal decisions.  Generally, most people I've dealt with that are addicts and pedophiles are cunning and amazingly resourceful with it comes to satisfying their 'needs"....but can be incredibly stupid when it comes to common sense situations. 

52

Posted by: Queen Sarah the Quitter at July 06, 2009 10:30 PM (i31Zq)

Are you Palin Steele's mom?

53 I'm just curious, since Rep King said , as if it were fact, that Jackson was a pedophile and a child molester, does that open him up to any kind of legal problems?  Slander, libel etc?



O.J. was found innocent and that doesn't stop most everyone from saying he is a murderer to this day.

Maybe after M.J. the pedobear payed off the kids parents he should have just sworn to go out and find the real child molesters.

54 Thanks BTMintheSTL and Rocks.  I didn't know how that worked.

55 Rocks,

In some states you can bring slander suits if it "blackens the memory of the dead", particularly if the slander were to lessen the value of the estate of the dead. I'm not sure if that is the case in California.

56 Racism?

Explain, please.

57 BTW, Monty, this isn't new.  People have followed the exploits of crazy royalty since the Roman empire.

58 This just in.....

They're gonna bury the child molester without his brain.....!

59 Damn, the zombies got to MJ too?

60 "he should have just sworn to go out and find the real child molesters."

heh

So, now that Jackson is dead, are the other parties in the pay-off suit still gagged by the law or can they now talk about what was done/said/paid for?

61 This thing tomorrow is going to be such a shit show. It'll be a long time before you'll see such preening and self aggrandizement again...not to mention the simple royal clusterf**k it's going to inevitably end up being. I'm so glad I choose not to buy cable tv.

62 56 Racism?

Explain, please.

I'm guessing that not being paternalistically condescending counts as racism.  As for me, I don't really go in for the noblesse oblige.

63 Just the way Paulie Walnuts woulda said it.
Jabone!
Utterly predictable.
How bout all involved DIAF, Sharpton, this clown, all of them just please die in a fucking fire. Where's my prozac?

64 My best advice tomorrow is to get a good book, go to a park and spend the day in peace. Turning on any television channel may cause an aneurism.

65 Yeah, they are preserving his brain for further study.

I think the android receptacle is nearly ready.

The comeback concert tour is not, repeat, not, cancelled.

66 #64

Internet pron also helps.

67 Wasn't there a cartoon where there were celebrity brains in a jar, Futurama or something. Maybe Jackson will be the first.

68 Peter King is not a Court of Law. He can call MJ anything he wants.

True. Just sayin' it makes him a real turd.

BTW, pass that sentiment on to Sarah Barracuda. Shannyn Moore can say anything she wants.

69 I'm not so sure he was a pedophile. The Court of Dr. Manhattan is still out on that one.

Yup.  One of his accusers was shown to be a fraud, after claiming that MJ was circumcized.  The police searched him and determined that he did, indeed, have a foreskin, presumably bleached as white as the rest of his body.

But he was definitely a super-freak.  Exhibit A is that he continued hanging out with children even after he paid millions to make it go away.  Exhibit B is his skin, Exhibit C is his nose, Exhibit D was the pubic hair he had surgically implanted on his chin, Exhibit E is that he named his kid "Blanket," Exhibit F . . .

70 If anyone has any real tangible proof, I'd like to hear it. I'm all ears.

I remember reading that one of the complaining witnesses was able to describe what kind of moles MJ had well enough for the sketch artist to match the sketch to the eventual photos that were taken (and having to get hauled into a police station to go through THAT the first time should have made it clear exactly how his behavior was being perceived). I would also love to see what kind of probable cause could have convinced a judge to order that particular warrant.

Anyone who actually had such innocent intentions should have done everything in his power to prevent a re-occurrence, but the Jesus Juice was still being dispensed.

And don't give me that BS that "MJ just wanted it to go away, so someone threw money at the problem until it went away". Anyone capable of tying his own shoelaces knows what a payoff looks like, and what it means. If MJ was so brain-dead that he couldn't, then any of the thousands of lawyers who were so careful about keeping the public at bay would have known what it looks like to pay someone off who has just made a criminal complaint of child sexual abuse.

The DA will also have all of the evidence presented from his criminal case. Maybe you'll come to a different conclusion than the dozen star-struck jurors did.

Acquittal is not the same as "innocent". It just means that the default position of our justice system that allows OJ and Baretta to walk away scot-free (and Phil Spector to do so twice in a row) means that yet another big-name star could not possibly be convisted of anything short of murder of a bus-load of nuns at high noon on live national TV.

It doesn't mean that he didn't actually do it.

If he were truly innocent, and had those resources, an attitude of "millions for defense, not one penny for tribute" would have been more appropriate, and I would have respected him a lot more.

Just my $0.02...

71 #27 I'm Bad!

72 I was thinking it, but Peter King said it.

73 RKG,

Not even close.

74 Warhol was right. He knew where this was headed. I never understood until these last few weeks of someone "famous" dying on a daily basis. God I hate this self serving media.

75 Read somewhere that King is going to challenge the brand new Senator.

76 Posted by: me at July 06, 2009 10:32 PM (7/syK)

Should you be talking about Micheal Jackson and Blowback in the same sentence? 

77 Exhibit F is that both of his sons were named "Prince Michael". Only George Forman can give multiple kids the same name and that's because he was heavy weight champ, who's gonna stop him.

78 Dammit, I wish I could just know, one way or another. He was a good singer, and a good dancer...but bottom line, the real talent was Quincy Jones.

79 #74 Just wait until the 4th estate props up dead MacNamara....as some kinda decent DemocRATick icon like his dead boss was.

spit

80 As to the whole kiddie-fiddler thing, yeah he might’ve shared a bed with a kid or two, but I kinda doubt that MJ even had genitals.  And if he did, they probably disgusted him, so either way that’s a “no” to doing grossly inappropriate things with children.

81 78 Dammit, I wish I could just know, one way or another.

Metaphysical certainty isn't possible, but I think a lot more accusers will come out of the woodwork.  Some will be selling books, but some might have more credibility.

82 Wow Drumwaster, I feel like it's been awhile since you've been around!

83 The status of his pedophilia is the new Shroedinger's goddamn cat.

84 I'm proud not 2b an american it is sad this Congressman should resign asap and if he is still alive within a few months he will make a public and televised apology to MJ's Family, Friends and heart broken Fans.

Here's a reality check when the world sees the true Messia in 2012 and knows that person was MJ's biggest fan what happens they don't think they can stand on the same earth as the Messia.

Here's a lexigram of Michael Joseph Jackson name-- I am John she's the chosen one. see her soon.

85 People have followed the exploits of crazy royalty since the Roman empire.

True. But the advent of mass media has made this unfortunate human tendency particularly fulminant. People might pass salacious rumors about the sexual predilections of Emperor Caligula, and speculate amongst themselves about the goings-on in the palace, but that's as far as it went. They didn't have fifteen different gossip-magazines, four thousand websites, hundreds of hours of television programming, and radio and satellite waves to pass the news. Or to pore over it night and day.

We have become a nation of voyeurs, the kind of nasty looky-loos who crowd around car accidents to see if they can catch a glimpse of the poor torn body on the ground or the long smear of blood.

It is one of our very worst characteristics as a species: that our "entertainment" comes not from the art these people produce but the wreckage of their lives. I can enjoy Hank Williams' music without knowing or caring that he drank himself to death; I can look at van Gogh's Starry Night and be dazzled and exalted, never minding that the man who painted it was as crazy as a shithouse rat. The art was the purpose and summation of their public lives; the rest passed away along with their bodies when they died.

But the modern world has taken this obscuring veil away and laid the weak flesh open to public view.

Who remembers Elvis now except as a flabby, sweating caricature of himself, hustling middle-aged women in a Las Vegas casino? He died on the toilet: what fun! Did he flush before he died? It was probably the first question the "entertainment press" asked upon hearing of his death. This, about a man who sang "That's All Right" with such joy and heart and abandon that the world was never the same again. But no: he is not the man who changed the world with his singing; he is the jumpsuited, sequined clown who died on the toilet.

Let the veil come down, I say. A freak he may be, but even a freak deserves peace at last.

86 In some states you can bring slander suits if it "blackens the memory of the dead", particularly if the slander were to lessen the value of the estate of the dead. I'm not sure if that is the case in California.

Posted by: BTMintheSTL at July 06, 2009 10:37 PM (kGDTD)

Yeah but it's pretty hard to argue that stating a commonly held belief about someone somehow blackens their memory. King didn't invent this stuff.

87 @84 Now THAT is some high-quality crazy.

88 #84

Huh? I wish I could even understand what that was supposed to mean. Or maybe I don't.

89 A really sick quote I saw was from a fan who said "My mom is a big Elvis fan. This is my Elvis moment". Like I am fan but thanks for dying and giving me this moment MJ. Every generation should have there own dead celebrity to mourn over I guess.
Idiots.

90 Good, I thought some how in my tiredness that post 84 just didn't compute.

91 I gots to hit the hay, guys and dolls and cats and kittens. I have vented bile enough for one night, I think. Let us look forward to better things upon the morrow.

G'night, morons.

92 Good to read you, Monty.  Read you soon.  Welcome back.

93 87,

Yes, indeed. Sad news for any late-coming loons out there.
Do not waste your time struggling for a distant second place finish.

94 #91

G'night, although I'm not sure what "better things" you're looking forward to.  I'm looking for the end, because in the end, there will be only chaos. 

95 "Aaaah, pure, unadulterated racism."

Ah yes, when you have no argument, cry racism - redefines being dumber than a creosote post without the creosote.

96 dumber than a creosote post without the creosote

I find your lack of creosote disturbing.
-- Darth Post

^{I'm sorry.}

97 "And don't give me that BS that "MJ just wanted it to go away, so someone threw money at the problem until it went away". Anyone capable of tying his own shoelaces knows what a payoff looks like, and what it means. If MJ was so brain-dead that he couldn't, then any of the thousands of lawyers who were so careful about keeping the public at bay would have known what it looks like to pay someone off who has just made a criminal complaint of child sexual abuse."

Drumwaster - pull your panties outta your asscrack.   Point was - albeti poorly stated, Jackson made it go away with money, so in his mind, all's good.  I said he wasn't capable seeing/understanding the long term consequences  -- I didn't say NOBODY around him did.  Obviously, since he didn't change his behaviour, those "thousands of lawyers" didn't have the final say, did they?

"The DA will also have all of the evidence presented from his criminal case."

Is that evidence available?  Have you seen it? Or is it gagged? (bad descriptive, in this case)  Just wondering...not being beligerant. 

98 93/87

yep, that 84 comment is in the Hall of Fame re most insane AOS comments ive ever seen.

99 @84



Crazy yes, but it also had generous helpings of macabre and creepy mixed in as well.

100 I still can't get over post 84. Is she saying that Michael Jackson was really John Lenon, who was really the Walrus, who was really Paul McCartney, who we all know is the Messiah? Also, can I haz punctuation pleaz?

101 99

True, 84 leaves you wanting more...who is this "Messiah" that loves MJ who will be revealed in 2012?

Could it be.....Sarah Palin?

hehehhe

102 True, 84 leaves you wanting more...who is this "Messiah" that loves MJ who will be revealed in 2012?




Oh shit I've got it, they are burying MJ without his brain so it can be transplanted into Obama.


God help us all.

103 Dear Dr. Manhattan, if it looks like dog crap and it smells like dog crap, it's dog crap.

104 I am the High Priest of Post #84!

Post #84 speaks through me and only through me!

If I see that your offering is worthy of Post #84, I may chose to answer your question.

105 Can you imagine MJ's brain in Obama's body. The irony of a black man who wants to be white in the body of a white man who wants to be black is mind boggling.

106 Michael Jackson reminds me of young Roman Emperors like Elagabalus -- young men so powerful that they could indulge their whimsies and eventually become freakshows.

Fans are overindulging in eulogizing Michael Jackson in part to assuage the guilt that comes with having played a part in making him emperor, and therefore having played a part in sending him to his doom. The fact that he is so pathetic is triggering some sort of mass guilt response which manifests itself as ululations at his demise.

107 Concerning 84 it's clear that by the use of Messia and not Messiah that the coming one is a female. "I am John"..... Mary Magdalene?
Sounds like the Da Vinci Code nuts have glomed on to Jackson. Fitting for Gnostics really.

108 "The DA will also have all of the evidence presented from his criminal case."

Is that evidence available?  Have you seen it? Or is it gagged? (bad descriptive, in this case)  Just wondering...not being beligerant. 

Posted by: me at July 06, 2009 11:07 PM (7/syK)

Anything the government has is all public record, always has been. People have been saying this stuff for years and MJ never did a thing. King's not saying anything new, just that he believes it.

109 No, there is no way to spin it, how MJ and Messiah/Messia can be thought of in the same thought process is beyond me.

110

Posted by: De Bajan Prophetess at July 06, 2009 10:54 PM (NfVlf)

*nodding and slowly walking backwards out the door, not saying a word*

111 http://tiny.cc/f1kDv  Zombie bait. 

112

Some of you may have come across a neo-fascist blogger, Ace of Spades, who makes Glenn Beck seem like Jim Lehrer. All of this is to say: even he can't quite put up with the degenerate dorks who now constitute much of the Republican base. Here he is inveighing against the commenters he has spent the last few years whipping into an anti-elitist frenzy...

 

I think Sully has a crush on you Ace. 

113 No, there is no way to spin it, how MJ and Messiah/Messia can be thought of in the same thought process is beyond me.

Posted by: BTMintheSTL at July 06, 2009 11:30 PM (kGDTD)

And for only a small fee I can sell you this water which will give you the beginnings of the secret knowledge brother. Only $100 a bottle or $1000 for a case of 12. Or maybe a bracelet? I could even sell you one of Michael Jackson's famous gloves if you can show a line of credit.

114 25... Monty, you've been in hiding.

 That is the most accurate verbal portrayal  of the mj situation/celebrity fiasco  I have read/witnessed.  ( This mighty nation has been turned into a giant bowl of gruel. weep. weep.)

115 Notice how "to be" is replaced with "2b".

This is a clue to the location of the Holy Grail.

Do not let Deceivers convince you it is a clue to the location of the Holy Hand Grenade.

This knowledge is reserved only for the High Priest of Post #84.

Me.

116 The fact that Sully holds Jim Leherer in such regard tells you all you need to know about that jackass.

117 Regarding post 84, another anagram of Michael Joseph Jackson is, "Jackal Chimp Joshes One".

Clearly this means that Bubbles, Jackson's monkey, knows that, just like Elvis, Jackson's "death" is merely a ruse, a cruel hoax on the 300,000,000,000 fans that were saved or created since the "death", but needed balm for his weary soul.

118 In the end, the tiger eats them all.

Unless you have power glutes which are impervious to toger bites. It takes  a lot of massaging though. When the Messia comes in 2012 you will understand about this, Michael Jackson and Trig.

119 ok, one more thing.  Either Anonymous Drivel or Monty is really Rush Limbaugh.

Come out, ya little stinker.  Youse guys is too good for jus' common folk.
Oh, wait. guess yer common folk. Yeah! for common folk. Even if they're misanthropes.

120 103

I suppose you are right. If I was forced to bet, it would be on that.

121 God Andrew Sullivan is such an unbearable asshole.

122 @ 37,  maybe it's because they are afraid that the Democrats will break out their white hoods again and start hanging them once more?   just saying

123 this is pretty scary - anyone know what Bush's DOJ did on this?

I reported here that the Supreme Court was considering whether to hear an appeal from a decision of the Second Circuit upholding the dismissal of a suit by the victims of 9/11, their families, and their insurers against the Saudi government and the individual Saudi princes who personally gave money to Muslim charities they knew would be funding al-Qaeda's jihad against America. The Obama administration, I noted, had urged the Supreme Court not to take the case. The Circuit Courts of Appeals are divided on whether an exception exists to a 1976 law granting sovereign immunity to foreign countries for cases involving countries that sponsor terrorism.

Last week, the Supreme Court denied the petition to hear this case. It did so, as is normal in these circumstances, without comment.

As a result, the Saudi government and those institutions directly tied to it or to the royal family will not have to answer in U.S. court for aiding the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11. However, the suit can proceed against a number of Saudi financial institutions, charities and other groups.

Sean Carter, an attorney for the families, predicts that "the presentation of our evidence against those remaining defendants will lead directly back to government offices and royal palaces in Riyadh."

124 Peter King is  Jew isn't he? I'll bet he wouldn't be saying this is Michael was a Joo.
He hates black men who change themselves to appear white and sleep with young boys. Racist!
The Joos control the media...that's why they have defamed Michael all week and refuse to carry his memorial......umm never mind.
Racists!

125 But MJ just wanted to live the childhood he never had...

It was always young boys in his home and his bed, never girls.  Case closed.

126 But MJ just wanted to live the childhood he never had...

Posted by: fozzy at July 07, 2009 12:07 AM (ccEuN)

That's true....a;; he was doing was playing Doctor like all kids do, Maybe we can put that on the stamp. Dr. Michael and the children.

127 Al! Get your hand out of my pocket!

128

One less pervert chasing my kids.

 

I see they are burying the freak without his brain. Should make the voodoo resurrection exceedingly difficult, but the "MJ Ressurrected!" Crowd has a leg up on the other wacko retards now.......

129 Aaaah, pure, unadulterated racism.

Truly breathtaking.

How come minorities never vote Republican?

How can it be racism when MJ was as white as a ghost... by choice? And his wives were white, and his artificially inseminated kids are white....?

Could it be that conservatives just draw the line at glorifying weirdness and perversion?

130
Monty, when I was very young, I went to an old-time carney freak show that was at the local amusement park. It was one of the last of its kind, complete with garishly painted pictures and a barker declaiming the wonders to be seen inside. I was curious, so I paid my quarter and went in. And yes, the people inside were freaks: the Fat Lady, the Tattooed Lady, the Sword Swallower, the Half Man-Half Woman. One guy was called the Human Corkscrew; he assumed one impossible position after another while stretched across three kitchen chairs - reading "Anna Karenina" the whole time.

But the real freaks were the rubes shuffling around the sawdust while stuffing Crackjack into their faces, the girls mincing and feigning horror, the guys guffawing and making wisecracks.

I will say this: the freak show never claimed to be anything other than what it was, sleazy entertainment for the great unwashed. No nattering nabob would think of discoursing on the significance of the Human Corkscrew's latest posture. No, we save that for our sophisticated, modern, up-to-date electronic age, which lets rubes congregate by the tens of millions.

Time for bed. Somebody, please wake me when it's over.

131   127 Al! Get your hand out of my pocket!
  You know, if MJ were alive right now- he say "PUT your in my pocket , Al. And He would ask Jesse to put HIS hand in his other pocket... and...     It is all about togtherness people!  

132 Have you heard about my new hip hop recording company? No pedophiles, they all like girls just like R. Kelly. Oh yeah...Michael was wonderful. Buy a cd so we can afford to sue Peter King okay? Or maybe buy a new Escalade anyway.

133 You know, if MJ were alive right now- he say "PUT your in my pocket , Al. And He would ask Jesse to put HIS hand in his other pocket... and...     It is all about togtherness people!  

Posted by: Gerry Owen at July 07, 2009 12:26 AM (oGv5F)

Ewww! Grown men? No way! That's just ignorant, you're ignorant!

134 Don't know, and don't care if he was a prevert. What I do know is that this disgusting spectacle, combined with the current administration turning the country into a banana republic, makes me fervently pray that the upcoming movie 2012 is actually a true story. Or that Our Jug-eared Ubermensch will mistake the Nuclear Football for his wife's favorite dildo and accidently blow up the world next Saturday night. What a pathetic place to live, we've suddenly become.

135 "O.J. was found innocent and that doesn't stop most everyone from saying he is a murderer to this day."

No one is ever "found innocent."  O.J.'s verdict, like every other criminal acquittal, was "not guilty."  All that that means is that that particular jury on that particular day decided that the People of the State of California had failed to prove each element of the crime charged beyond and to the exclusion of every reasonable doubt. 

As has already been said, that doesn't mean he didn't do it.  News for the naive: while our criminal justice system relies on the presumption of innocence as a safeguard against governmental power, most defendants, including most defendants who get acquitted at trial, are factually guilty.

136 I like 2 in my butt at once!

137

Oh shit I've got it, they are burying MJ without his brain so it can be transplanted into Obama.

Obama: "If I only had a brain..."

On the other hand, could obama with a brain be any worse than he is now?

138 What's with this "MJ" stuff, anyway?

I thought "MJ" was Peter Parker's girlfriend, Mary Jane Watson.

139 105 Can you imagine MJ's brain in Obama's body. The irony of a black man who wants to be white in the body of a white man who wants to be black is mind boggling.

Posted by: BTMintheSTL at July 06, 2009 11:25 PM (kGDTD)

It's ALIVE!!

It's Frankenshvartze!

140 IANAL, but I am studying for the bar right now, so let's hope I'm right or I'm in trouble.  Basically, the Jackson family can complain all they want, but you'll notice they haven't actually threatened legal action.  There's a reason for that...you can't defame someone who's dead.  As a matter of law, there is simply no cause of action.

141

I thought "MJ" was Peter Parker's girlfriend, Mary Jane Watson.

NERD! It stands for Michael Jordan. Obviously.

142 That's ignorant!

143 Braaaaaaiiiiiinnnnnssss

144 I'm humping my Michael Jackson doll to Thriller.

145 The hash - teh trolls be too stupid to figure it out.

Oh well.  I'll keep waiting for a good one.

146 Great video.  snif, If only Brian Dennehy had lived to see it.

147 Peter King sounds like this all the time. He drives the real Straight-Talk Express and not that rented mock-up jalopy McCain borrowed last year.

Good for him. And good for America for him breaking this uncomfortable news to the public that understands the freakin' obvious. Maybe the media narrative can buy a clue.

148

His music, from years ago - was great, his dancing, from years ago was too - but Jackson had long since become a freak show, by his own behaviors. God help his children!  King was correct.  Michael Jackson hated his race too - look at how he mutilated himself to NOT appear black!  And he chose to use a white man's sperm and a white woman's eggs to create his children yet the media is holding him out there as a black man who crossed the race barrier?  He was a demented, selfish, self absorbed, mentally ill, dangerous person who should have been institutionalized - instead we have to stomach days and days of media hype and glorification! Disgusting.

149 <i>But MJ just wanted to live the childhood he never had...

It was always young boys in his home and his bed, never girls.  Case closed.</i>

Well, little boys tend to hang out with other little boys, so it makes sense that if he's mentally and emotionally frozen at 11 years old he'd be hanging with other little boys.

150 I made a response to this post over on my blog, since it wouldn't fit in a comment over here:

http://therawness.com/conservatives-and-michael-jackson/

But basically, the point is that with conservativism in the state it's in in the public eye, casting ourselves in the role of bashing Michael Jackson, idol of millions and American icon, after he's dead and while his fans are mourning, especially after he was acquitted and the molestation cases were flimsy at best, really isn't helping us at all.

It looks ugly to the rest of the world and offers plenty of fodder to our opponents to stereotype conservatives as racists and the modern day equivalent of the uptight out of touch white dudes hating on Kevin Bacon for dancing in Footloose.

The rage of conservative blogs over any and all Jackson coverage to me has been a bigger embarrassment than the actual media coverage I think.

151
millions of Michael Jackson fans = millions of losers

now please shut the fuck up and fuck you

152
Eulogy to Michael Jackson

Today, as we watch a dead idol being worshiped, we have reached yet another low point in our nation's history in a series of low points. Our civilization is on the brink as evidenced as millions of fans of a freak pay homage to a man whose life should be forgotten, not memorialized.

Rest in peace, Michael Jackson. May God have mercy on your soul. And may God have mercy on us and save us from ourselves.

153 <i>millions of Michael Jackson fans = millions of losers

now please shut the fuck up and fuck you</i>

This is the equivalent of the level of discourse and thought one finds at Daily Kos or Huffpo.  Like I said, embarrassing.

154 @150

"But basically, the point is that with conservativism in the state it's in in the public eye, casting ourselves in the role of bashing Michael Jackson [...] really isn't helping us at all."

Conservatism is doing just fine. It's the GOP (or the perception of it) that has problems politically.


"It looks ugly to the rest of the world and offers plenty of fodder to our opponents to stereotype conservatives as racists and the modern day equivalent of the uptight out of touch white dudes hating on Kevin Bacon for dancing in Footloose."

And that perception was going to be dispelled somehow? It doesn't much matter what the Right really does, now does it? Should we get a poll from MSNABCBSCNNNYT to see how the Right will be described? Sorry. Narrative already in stone. Getting cowed from describing reality due to what the PC crowd will say is not a threat any more.

155 Uncle Tweets, take the person you consider the most influential public figure from the latter half of the 20th century.  The one most deserving of public acclaim and memorializing.  Okay, have a person in mind?  Now multiply his fame and influence and celebrity by about 20,000 at least.  That's about how big Michael Jackson was.  So yeah, he doesn't deserve to be forgotten, no matter how much you like or dislike him.  Just because we don't like the truth doesn't make it any less true.

I'm no fan of Princess Di and don't get the uproar over her, but I'm not going to deny reality and say she wasn't a major worldwide figure regardless.

156 "Conservatism is doing just fine. It's the GOP (or the perception of it) that has problems politically."

Problem is, the average person conflates the two.  It's a sad fact but true.

"Getting cowed from describing reality due to what the PC crowd will say is not a threat any more."

Pretending Michael Jackson was just another pop musician and that the frenzy over his death is media-created is not describing reality, its denying it.  The media covers his death nonstop because that's what matters most to most of the world's population right now, not vice versa.  The media is not creating the frenzy, it's simply reporting it.

157
I'm embarrassed for our nation.

The 40th anniversary of the first moon landing is in a few weeks. The mission and its men will not a get a fraction of the fawning coverage as Jacko gets.

This is indeed a sad day in our nation's history.

158
The media is not creating the frenzy, it's simply reporting it.

hahahahhahahahah, I know, right!

159 RE: T. AKA Ricky Raw at July 07, 2009 05:37 AM (YgEqn)

Michael Jackson was a train wreck and human tragedy. He was a world-renowned performer in a time long, long ago. He became a true freak, like it or not. Such a transformation is not to be praised, elevated, or admired. His current adoration is misplaced though the media will hype it and his death because it requires zero work and because tabloid material always does well. Its a self-reinforcing phenomenon that exploits the death of a troubled man.

The nation needs to face ugly truths and differentiate that which is really admirable and that which is superficial... and respond accordingly. His deification is obscene no matter what he contributed once upon a time to the music scene.

160


I agree 100% with Rep. King.

The lionization of Michael Jackson shows how sick pop culture is.

161

Raw has a point, albeit an unpleasant one. Evvvvrybody on this site has a favorite late-generation rock- or pop-type act, that was part of their childhood, and occupies a place in their self___ and personal history that, for millions of losers, is filled by M.Jackson. Yet you don't have to go back very far in conservative history--like the Sixties--to find the time when every youth-oriented act was reviled from the pulpit literally and figuratively, and characterized just the way we do the MJ phenomenon. Y'all people are cultural latecomers, adapted to the modern reality, and able to reconcile some very countercultural currents with a feeling of cultural conservatism. Believe me when I tell you that during my childhood this simply was not tolerated. As late as 1973, state Libertarian conventions featured the music of Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass. It was all the Sinatra version of "My Way," not Elvis'.

Honest to Christ, in the 50's, conservatives looked askance at Beethoven. Mozart was the only way to go. Mahler? Forgett.Aboutt.Itt.

Were millions of potential conservatives driven away from the rest of conservative values by this attitude? Certainly.  Was this approach ideologically pure and high-minded? Undoubtedly (except in the case of some swingin' but safely dead composers whose biographies had been tarted up, or down as the case was, for safe family consumption during the American Victorian period).

Someday you'll encounter conservative MJ worshippers. We already have conservative rappers, and five years ago that seemed beyond the pale. I won't enjoy it, and neither will you. And I do not like Michael Jackson or anything about him. But it's going to happen. The question is what to do about it.

162 Fuck you, Ricky Raw.

It's assholes like you that gave us Dumbo the President.

163

RE: #2 BTMintheSTL.   Swell poem....  there's always this bit of logic though.

Q:  Why didn't Culkin testify?

A:  Because he liked it.

164 Here's some local news from Rep. King's district on Long Island:

Singing a profanity-laced rap song about the police while hanging out a car window on the Southern State Parkway got a passenger in trouble - with the police, authorities said.

Sara K. Smith, 21, of Floral Park, told the state trooper who stopped her friend's car in Baldwin on July Fourth that she was rapping to a song by gangsta rap group N.W.A, police said Monday.

"She then asked the trooper if he had ever heard of N.W.A," State Police spokesman Frank Bandiero said. The trooper told Smith he hadn't, Bandiero said.

The trooper issued a summons to Smith for disorderly conduct, including obscene language and gestures, police said.

The passsenger had been singing an expletive-filled song off the group's 1988 double-platinum selling album "Straight Outta Compton."

The song, "-- tha Police," went on to have an enormous impact on the evolution of West Coast rap. But because of violent and sexual lyrics, often directed at government agencies such as the Los Angeles Police Department, N.W.A was banned from many radio stations and even prevented from touring.

A state police spokesman said the incident occurred near Exit 20 on the Southern State after the trooper, alerted by motorists, saw Smith hanging out of the passenger window of a car, and heard her shouting obscenities about the police. In his narrative of the 8:35 p.m. incident, the trooper called the driver "apologetic" and said of the passenger: "I counseled her on her behavior."

(Liberal Rag/Monopoly Newsday)

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/nassau/ny-lirap0712946072jul06,0,212746.story

165 Ululations? Heh.

166

I would have climbed up MJ's "wishing tree" any day...but (sniff) he never asked.

As a result I am scarred for life.

167

Peter King?  You're ignorant, just ignorant.  Voluneterring?  That's ignorant work.

AHEEE-HEEE SHAMOWN JAHMUNDAH!

 

168

Ermmmm....do those retards who claim the lack of a criminal conviction means "innocence" forget the millions MJ spent to "settle" in civil court?

Just like OJ, who (thanks to me) beat a murder rap yet lost in civil court and was assessed huge fines (which he never paid).

It's the "standard of proof", folks.  You might not be convicted for murder, but (like OJ) there may be plenty of evidence that you caused someone to die, enough for a jury to say you committed a tort, if not a crime.

Get it?

I now return to my mink-lined crypt.

 

169

I hear MJ said and TV that he did "sleep" with children in a loving way not a sexual way.  That still makes him a prevent and molestor in my mind.  And he builds "Neverland" to lure children to him. 

Yeah he had talent, but was a very sick person.  But he is in God's hands now.  We have our opinions, but He'll be the judge.

P.S. Why are the blacks so proud of him, when he tried to turn white and his children were white donors...doesn't that tell you something????????????

170

Peter King:

"You're a vegetable"

171

Pete King calling it like he sees it. We need more like him in this respect. Many more. People telling the truth would change the world. And it needs changing.

172 What we need is more public hangings, then people like MJ will have lost their mojo.

173 Apparently, government workers (soldiers, cops, firefighters, teachers) are the ones who deserve glorification. And supposedly small government conservatives applaud this sort of thinking.

174

Jackson paid 22 million to the family of Jordy Chandler (the first kid who alleged wrongful acts between him and Jackson).

This was after Jordy's father (Evan Chandler) was recorded saying the following:

"Evan Chandler was tape-recorded saying amongst other things,
"If I go through with this, I win big-time. There's no way I lose. I will
get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever...Michael's
career will be over"

I'm sorry - "If I go through with this" ????????
WTF?

This is telling, because if he were really concerned about his boy, why would he even question it?

If they were more concerned with getting a child molester put
behind bars, why say such things?

175

More:

"A year after they had met, under the influence of a controversial
sedative, Jordan Chandler told his father that Jackson had touched his
penis."

"Under the influence of a controversial sedative"?

"An official investigation began, with Jordan Chandler's mother
adamant that there was no wrongdoing on Jackson's part. Neverland
Ranch was searched; multiple children and family members denied that he was a pedophile."

"On January 1, 1994, Jackson settled with the Chandler family and
their legal team out of court, in a civil lawsuit for $22 million. After
the settlement Jordan Chandler refused to continue with Police
criminal proceedings. Jackson was never charged, and the state closed
its criminal investigation, citing lack of evidence."

So they took it just far enough to get the guy to pay out?
Nice.

176

More:

For source info, see the "Notes" info on this page:
http://tinyurl.com/qyyrfg

One more thing to keep in mind:
There was a 12 year span of time between  the 1st allegations and the 2nd allegations.

Serial pedophiles and child molestors CANNOT control
themselves for that long. Trust me on this.

Reminder: The 2nd allegations were proven not to have merit, in a court of law.
The mother of the accuser and the accuser himself, couldn't keep their
stories straight on the stand. They were also defrauding the federal government
of welfare monies, at the same time this trial was going on.

Just sayin'.

I've been labled "not a conservative" because my views on this happen to be
different from most conservatives. My views are based on what went down, in
a legal sense, with both cases. I'm sorry if that offends anyone, but, tough shit.

177

What about our brave boys that died over the weekend?  Who will remember them? Who will honor them? 

178 Talismen, the commenters here demonstrate the same sort of rush to judgment and lack of critical thinking that liberals showed in the Duke "rape" case. Jackson was unquestionably a weird guy, but that doesn't make him a pedophile.

179

I've been labled "not a conservative" because my views on this happen to be
different from most conservatives.

I'd just label you naive. 

180 It only takes a voice to sing.  It takes a strong character to be a soldier.

181 "Would you let you're child or grandchild in the same room as Michael Jackson?"

Now I would.

Zombie Michael Jackson!

182

in the year of the guinea pig there will be fire from the house of uranus and it will smell awful and then you will realise you shouldnt have had that chili dog the previous evening

183 "It only takes a voice to sing.  It takes a strong character to be a soldier."

That's ridiculous. There have been scores of depraved soldiers, yes, some even in our own military.

184
I love it when people explain reality to me, especially fans of Michael Jackson.

Nobody has a better grasp of reality than a Jacko fan.

185 All this respect for a singing pederast.  I can't wait til Gary Glitter dies.  Moment of silence in parliament?  Postage stamp?

186

That's ridiculous. There have been scores of depraved soldiers, yes, some even in our own military.

 

There is a huge fucking difference between those that enlist and a Soldier.  Anyone one can enlist, not everyone is a Soldier.  Hence, the use of 'character'.

187

This is old but new to me:

Story of the signing, and signers, of the Declaration of Independence.  Very cool.

http://tinyurl.com/lbegyv

 

188

It only takes a voice to sing.  It takes a strong character to be a soldier."

That's ridiculous. There have been scores of depraved soldiers, yes, some even in our own military.

You're a retard Jim.  Maybe she should have spelled it out for you differently so you wouldn't have to be so obtuse. 

It only takes a good voice to be a good singer.  It takes a strong character to be a good soldier. 

189

You're a retard Jim.  Maybe she should have spelled it out for you differently so you wouldn't have to be so obtuse. 

 

Well said.  Thank you.

190

#178 - Posted by: Jim at July 07, 2009 07:57 AM

Very true Jim.

But - some folks will believe anything is true, when a court decides to merely hear the case. Jackson was ripe for accusations like this, and two people tried to take advantage of that.

If Jordy Chandler's parents were so worried about Jackson possibly harming any other child, they would have stuck with the case and gone to trial. I'm sorry, but money would not have bought off peace-of-mind if my child had been molested.

I can assure you it wouldn't have purchased peace-of-mind for my parents after they learned I had been molested by my uncle. Were it not for the statute of limitations in Iowa, he would have been charged for what he did to me.

191

Obama snubs UK again:

Appoints major donor to Ambas. position.

http://tinyurl.com/nk5pow

President Barack Obama has raised some eyebrows with his decision to send as ambassador to the U.K. a little-known retired investment banker -- and top fund-raiser -- from his hometown who has little diplomatic experience.

The post at the Court of St. James's in London is one of the most prestigious in U.S. diplomatic circles.

192

Were it not for the statute of limitations in Iowa, he would have been charged for what he did to me.

You mean a large period of time had past before the allegations surfaced?  How suprising.

193

Morning Headline thread, plz.

194 Michael Jackson's career was built around his persona.  Building a successful persona meant he, and/or his handlers, needed some pretty solid reads on public opinion.

I can't think of any time in recent American history when public opinion of grown men taking other peoples' little boys into their own beds, even for "COMPLETELY INNOCENT PURPOSES" would ever, ever, ever, fucking EVER be considered okay.

So he knew that shit was going to go sideways, and did it anyway.  Because he was fucking creepy.  I don't care whether he was really a pedo or not, what matters is that HE DIDN'T REALLY GIVE A SHIT WHETHER YOU THOUGHT HE WAS FUCKING LITTLE BOYS.

195 I use to let little Palin spend the night with Michael Jackson and personally I didn't think the effects of that were so adverse.

196

Talismen, the commenters here demonstrate the same sort of rush to judgment and lack of critical thinking that liberals showed in the Duke "rape" case.

Maybe the flouride people were on to something.  Stupid this strong has to be in the water.

197 Well, little boys tend to hang out with other little boys, so it makes sense that if he's mentally and emotionally frozen at 11 years old he'd be hanging with other little boys.

Complete bs. Every person who knew MJ personally says he was never like this in private with them. It was a persona. The frozen child meme is a complete creation of the media and apologists.

The rage of conservative blogs over any and all Jackson coverage to me has been a bigger embarrassment than the actual media coverage I think.

More bs. What does thinking celebrating MJ is wrong have to do with conservatism? That MJ was a media created freak and a pedohpile is a belief which crosses all spectrums and ideologies, the same as his proponents.

I'm no fan of Princess Di and don't get the uproar over her, but I'm not going to deny reality and say she wasn't a major worldwide figure regardless.

Okay now I get it. Princess Di wasn't a major worldwide figure. If she hadn't croaked she would be a footnote. A media created fraud famous for marrying the Prince of Wales and then becoming a train carwreck, literally.

MJ was a hack who spent a lifetime ripping off Jackie Wilson's moves and Hee-heeing through songs. The fact that people liked it doesn't make it good or genius any more than singing through a plastic tube makes Peter Frampton a rock Mozart.

198

The post at the Court of St. James's in London is one of the most prestigious in U.S. diplomatic circles.

FTFY

199

#192 - Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2009 08:30 AM

This was because I didn't remember what happened, until years later.
If you knew anything about how any sort of trauma can effect someone, this is classic.

You'll note that with both allegations against Michael Jackson (you CAN look that up on your own, can't you?) - both accusers indicated the events happened quite recently, close to the time they came out with the accusations.

 

200 Stupid this strong has to be in the water.

They've been sapping and impurifying our precious bodily fluids have been under attack since just after WWII.

201 I cannot say for certain what MJ did or did not do.  Believe it or not, I have not followed his life story.  Yes, I have read/heard of allegations and such.  On judgment day he will be held to account.  One thing I am sure of, is if you dare speak ill of the dead at some other blog which I will not mention, you will heretofore be banned.  Thank God for Ace and this blog where there is free speech, and fuck you very much Charles Johnson and your sick cult of lapdogs.

202

Princess Di wasn't a major worldwide figure. If she hadn't croaked she would be a footnote. A media created fraud famous for marrying the Prince of Wales and then becoming a train carwreck, literally.

Yeah, what exactly did she do, besides being 'The People's Princess'?

Don't tell she gave money to some charity crap. OoooooOOOooOoh big deal. So does everyone with cash.

203 Edit button.  Preview button.  Goddammit Pixy Misa, DO SOME FUCKING THING.  Even USENET has fucking cancel messages, you stone-age fuck.

204

Good thing this came along so that Andi Cooper could get all serious about this stuff, because it is brow-furrowing, extra important news, the news that we need.

205 How many minutes did the morning shows spend on the seven U.S. Soldiers killed in Afghanistan as opposed to Michael Jackson?

206

Princess Di was big into the "stop using landmines" movement, making her a left wing goddess.

207 Talismen give me a break. Anyone can pick apart anything it doesn't make them innocent. The guy slept with boys as he admits himself publicly. Also it's dumb to suggest that because there were only 2 public accusation he's innocent as serial pedos can't stop. Who says he ever did? The fact that he routinely paid off parents is well known. There are tons of parents willing to sell their kids for a shot at the good life, it's hardly new to MJ and is as old as hollywood itself.

I'm sorry, but money would not have bought off peace-of-mind if my child had been molested.

They were never looking for piece of mind but a piece of the action. The fact that the parents were complicent doesn't make MJ any less of a sick bastard.

208

Posted by: apotheosis at July 07, 2009 08:40 AM (TdBA+)

Lighten up, Francis.

209

Seven Soldiers Killed in Afghanistan Get 1/20th Time Given to Jackson

210

OT -- Rahm Emmanuel's is going to decide who gets medical treatment and who dies.

His ideas are scary as hell. I'll post more on the headlines thread (if there is one).

211
Tell me, anyone, what made Michael Jackson a good person?

212

You know, Freddie Mercury was kind of a freak, but at the very least he was at the top of his game when he went out.  I can overlook his failings because he was so fucking awesome.

Same goes for some others like Rob Halford.  But these guys both had something in common.  Neither one flaunted their weirdness in front of the world or purposefully protected their secret.  Everyone knew they were gay.  They just didn't foist it on the whole world.

On the other hand, you have someone like Elton John.  All you ever hear about him now is how he's gay. 

213 I also question the motives of the sick f*cking parents that allowed their children to stay with MJ. 

214
btw, isn't it obvious now that Rahm Emmanuel was Obama's inside man to Hillary Clinton all along?

215 Tell me, anyone, what made Michael Jackson a good person?

Posted by: Unicle tweets at July 07, 2009 08:48 AM (Plkt5)

Nothing, but he did do good things. He did give a lot of money to charity, I'll give him that but it was not any larger a percentage of his income than most people. His music also pleased people, which is something.

216

On the other hand, you have someone like Elton John.  All you ever hear about him now is how he's gay. 

That's fine.  ZERO problem with that.  He never had sleepovers with little boys.  Plus, "The Bitch Is Back" rawks.

217

Princess Di was big into the "stop using landmines" movement

Oh, jeez, clearly the most influential figure of the 20th century.

218 Lighten up, Francis.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 07, 2009 08:43 AM (B+qrE)

this fucking "coffee" shit is pretty good shit, man

219 Freddie Mercury, Rob Halford and Elton John are all self admitted freaks but none ever slept with children as far as we know.

220

200

i think that was the kids charge against michael jackson or something to that affect.

221 I also question the motives of the sick f*cking parents that allowed their children to stay with MJ.

Posted by: momma at July 07, 2009 08:51 AM (penCf)

You might as easily question an angler's intentions toward a box of nightcrawlers.

222

Princess Di was big into the "stop using landmines" movement

Oh, jeez, clearly the most influential figure of the 20th century.

 

how sucessful has that movement been exactly? before you answer, know that i planted a bouncing betty landmine somewhere in your house. be careful where you step

223

Reported approvingly by you txpayer-supported NPR:

Even many blacks who weren't Jackson fans were outraged at the rampant speculation the media engaged in about the singer's personal life and past legal troubles. In Los Angeles, visiting pastor Al Sharpton publicly chastised the media at Sunday's service at First AME Church. "When you had had other entertainers that had questions in their life, you did not degrade and denigrate them before their funeral like you did Michael Jackson," he said.

Really, Al? Name "other entertainers" (that would be "white entertainers" in Al speak) who were accused of child molestation -- twice -- and went on to enjoy continued fan worship.

"Other entertainers" would have seen their career ended. Period. They would not be grearing up for 50 sold out shows at the time of their death.

The media continues to shield this racist retard from reality.  

224
He did give a lot of money to charity, I'll give him that but it was not any larger a percentage of his income than most people.

I just glanced at his contributions. Jacko gave relatively little of his own money to charity. By my quick estimate, it's under $10M, which is very little of someone of his celebrity who has generated in the billions of $$.

He probably spent more money on his plastic surgery than he gave away to charity.

225 I swear, as God is my witness, I had no idea Rob Halford is a pooter shooter.

NTTAWWT, but...dude.

226 Michael Jackson... flavored... bacon?


Eurrrggghhh.

227

What was truely sad about the Princess Di death was that Prince Charles was not in the car. I hope to god the queen has the sense to live longer than him because he is a global warming extremist and a pro dhimmi UK'er. He would really run what is left of that country into the ground. I kind of like his sons though.

228

Oh, jeez, clearly the most influential figure of the 20th century.

No, that's Brian Dennehy.

229

This is what you said Talismen

One more thing to keep in mind:
There was a 12 year span of time between  the 1st allegations and the 2nd allegations.

I'm just pointing out that you use the same time period evidence to argue both sides of the issue.  

230

Saying that the media is only reporting the hysteria and that conservatives are denying reality is ass-backwards and the mark of a shit head troll who is himself denying reality.

 

The media created MJ and they are milking him for every cent they can get. Yeah. Everyone has their childhood rock star. Hah, Elvis came about during my childhood and I didn’t go into hysterics in 1977 when he died on the toilet.

 

And BTW, Elvis was a LOT bigger than MJ and the media didn’t go into the 24/7 adulation they are now. I blame it on two things, the advent of 24/7 cable news and the further commercialization of the “news”.

 

They haven’t been news for a long time. They are now info-tainment. Their refrain in the 50s and the early 60s was that they were “headline” purveyors because they could not do in-depth in half an hour. Well, they went to a one hour format and still didn’t explore the depth of the stories. Now they have 24 hours and they just fill the time with the the dead celebrity/missing babe of the week.

 

That is when they are not kissing Obama’s ass.

231 Damn, all of a sudden the song "Turbo Lover" is downright menacing.

232 I, for one, intend to give the same amount of attention to MJ's funeral that I do to most other celebrities' funerals.  Perhaps a passing glance.

233 the MESSIA revealed unto me that lo, mj was a saint and if you do not believe that then you are going to hell i will pray for you and my grammar teacher always used to say that this was no way to write an essay with all these run on sentences and bugs bugs bugs roaming under my skin but i showed her they never found her body and the MESSIA knows all and will reveal all when in the end of days jermaine jackson will herald the second coming of michael

234

Damn, all of a sudden the song "Turbo Lover" is downright menacing.

The leather and spikes never gave you a hint?  Seriously?

235

when in the end of days jermaine jackson will herald the second coming of michael

I thought that would be Tito. 

236
I can't wait for this week to be over so we can finally put this long national nightmare behind us.

237 Has anyone seen LaToya lately?

238 Waiting for the MSM to recognize that this is a republican taking a stand in their viral video.  It is just a matter of time before they begin attacking King vociferously because his comments really weren't about MJ so much as they were about the state of this country.  When the MSM realizes this, he's toast.

239 Michael Jackson push-up pops.

240 The leather and spikes never gave you a hint?  Seriously?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 07, 2009 09:04 AM (B+qrE)

I just thought he was a biker, a lot of them dress like that.  Especially at the local bar.  I'm starting to hate that place, every night is a total sausage fest.  And what's with all the cowboy costumes?  The whole Garth Brooks country music revival is over, dudes, let it GO.  And I don't think you're supposed to wear chaps like that, but what do I know.

241
Back in *our* reality...

2Q earnings will be reported in the next few days.

Any predictions, anyone? Of course they'll be lousy but will they be a lot worse than expected? I suspect so.

I also suspect the market to react by going up, because the market IS FUCKING CRAZY.

242

The leather and spikes never gave you a hint? 

I may have seen him at Cornerstone!

243

#229 Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2009 09:01 AM

And I'm pointing out that you can't do math.

Check when the allegations by Jordy Chandler were made, and the time-frame he said the events happened. Then check when the 2nd allegations were made, and the time-frame (documented in the Bashir special) the 2nd child said the events happened. Both children "came forward" relatively quickly, after the alleged events took place.

I didn't remember what had happened to me for at least 30 years. Had I remembered sooner, I can assure you I would have said something.

The 12 year span of time between the Chandler accusation and the 2nd accusation (with Jackson) proves that if Jackson were the perverted fuck everyone WANTS to assume he was, he was undoubtedly doing this same thing to hundreds of children, for a few decades, at least. I'm not suggesting  other victims will not come forward in the future, but merely stating that usually when one child comes forward, more come forward (if there are more to come forward, that is). In this case, it's only been 2 children, one of which was proven untrue in a court of law, and one who's parents wanted money and nothing more. You're insinuating that other parents are keeping quite for all these years because they are either being paid off, or are just being nice? Get real. If there are other victims and their parents haven't done anything before now to get this supposed child molestor off the streets....They are just as guilty.

No one will convince me that NORMAL parents, after having learned of something like this, would simply take money instead of getting this guy off the streets and away from any kids.

244
Also back in *our* reality...

thank God for Senator Inhofe!

He's one of the few in Congress who has the balls to speak up against bullshit.

245 "polynikes."

That's Greek, isn't it?

Huh.

246 On CNBC Theya re about to discuss the technical patterns.  This morning the guest Holland said to pay close attention to Art as Art says a lot.  He says a lot alright and when he talks and I look at the charts I realize we are looking at the same chart.  Funny, erin is asking did we ever hear of the toe?  I don't know about the toe but everyone I know is looking at a classic head and shoulders.

247 Yeah, back in reality, grocery prices are going up.

Anyone else surprised he didn't name an e.coli czar?

248

I just thought he was a biker, a lot of them dress like that. 

ELTON JOHN IS GAY?!?!?

249

Elton John - 2nd most influential person in teh 20th century. Just for eulogizing Princess Di in song. That's how important she was.

Her maid? 6th most influential.

250 ELTON JOHN IS GAY?!?!?

Posted by: Entropy at July 07, 2009 09:17 AM (IsLT6)

Whoa hey, dude, don't go overboard, nobody said anything about big bedazzled sunglasses.  Besides, I think he was married, gay dudes wouldn't do that, right?

251
It just occurred to me while listening to Obama's stupid remarks about Putin that Obama, Chavez, etc. represent the *new* Communist movement. He's telling Putin, "You're doing it wrong!"

Obama's advice to Putin is to pretend to be more like a democracy but rule with an iron fist, not be an openly iron fist.

252 Speaking of reality, have you noticed how all the bloggers who used to be quick to discuss any and all subjects have suddenly become bland and are avoiding many subjects?  I saw a report that said blog readership was down and I thought to myself "well, of course, they aren't really discussing anything in any way controversial".  Were it not for Palin, it woudl probably still be down.  Been having the feeling that people have been subtly intimidated

253

Entropy:

Are you old enough to remember Princess Di's wedding? The media made a huge fuss about it. It was broadcast live at 3:00 AM and millions of Americans watched it.

The media made a huge fuss about her engagement, wedding, public appearances, the causes she championed, her break-up and, of course, her death.

Personally, I don't think she was worth 1/10th the coverage she received, but she was a phenomenon.

Like Vic said, the media creates larger than life figures for $$$. Too bad there are so many stupid people who buy into it.

254

"polynikes."

That's Greek, isn't it?

Are you calling him gay, or asking if he is gay?

To answer your question, yes, he's gay. Or Greek, if you prefer that.

255 Are you old enough to remember Princess Di's wedding?

Y'know, that's just about the most depressing shit I've read so far today, because until I did, it didn't even occur to me that some people might not be old enough to remember it.

256
And speaking of blog readership...

AoSHQ is quickly approaching the milestone of 50 million hits.

Maybe in the next day or two we'll celebrate with killiong hobos, drinking cheap vodka, and cooking Brian Dennehy in bacon fat. Not necessarily in that order.

257 Donations are being accepted to help defray the costs of providing public safety, traffic control and related costs associated with the Michael Jackson Memorial at the Staples Center. Please submit your donations by check payable to: "City of Los Angeles".

    Donation Mailing Address:
    Room 255, City Hall
    200 North Spring Street
    Los Angeles, CA 90012

Donations of any amount will be gratefully accepted. All donations are tax-deductible.

258
Who wants to bet Malor will post an MJ funeral thread?

Because what we need right now while our country is being destroyed by Obama is to argue with losers about Jacko's legacy.

259

Ugh, I still hate Elton John for that lazy schmaltz he foisted on us over Princess Di. He couldn't be arsed to write new music; he just redid "Candle In The Wind" except now with even less soul.

260 #257: I think I just barfed a little bit.

261

Y'know, that's just about the most depressing shit I've read so far today, because until I did, it didn't even occur to me that some people might not be old enough to remember it.

Posted by: apotheosis at July 07, 2009 09:21 AM (TdBA+)

If you're old enough to remember it, it means no health care for you.

262 So Davide is saying that Fannie and Freddie are buying every refinanced mortgage and securitizing them.  Great, isn't that what got us into trouble to begin with?   He is showing the risk characteristics of the portfooio and he seems just shocked. 

263

I liked the riff about Jackson... but am so freakin' tired of the "school teachers, firefighters and policemen that never get recognition" b.s. rap that seems to flow out of too many congressional clowns. 

How about those in private sector that worked the 4th?  Pick your own small example of those in private sector we all count on without thinking.  

I mean, let's get real.  How many of you on 4th needed a cop, firefighter or teacher compared to a Carl's Jr. burger, or El Pollo Loco taquito?  Were you all happy Albertson's was open?

And I don't even have to pay their salaries.

Do it for the fast food workers... do it for the insurance salesmen... do it for teh private sector!

264 There's still a private sector?

265 My guess is that not one AoS reader is going to Cali to pay tribute to MJ. Nor to even watch the freaks as they sop up the last frisson of Jackson's aura of (pathetic humanity) .

I felt a real, momentary sadness when I learned of Jackson's death.  I really did want to watch him retire to a celebrity cooking show. 

After all of this media coverage, I now wish that he'd died 15 years ago.  I won't be watching any of this MJ bs.

266 If you're old enough to remember it, it means no health care for you.

Posted by: Tinian at July 07, 2009 09:26 AM (7+pP9)

F that.  When death comes I'm walking out to face it like an Inuit on an ice floe, eating seal blubber and squat-humping a polar bear.

267

The only good thing Elton John ever did was The Who's Pinball Wizard in Tommy.

And what thell is with these British fops knighting actors and musicians. I'm suprised they hadn't already made him Sir Michael Jackson.

268 It's shame I bought this 50' Sony Bravia, because it won't be on today........is it football season yet?

269 When death comes I'm taking you all with me.

270

50' Sony Bravia

Holy shit!

271 what movie is this quote from? this is palin this morning:

 "I said before ... 'You know, politically speaking, if I die, I die. So be it."

272 The "knighthood" brand has been diluted so far that I'm pretty sure the talking bear from the Snuggle commercial is a peer of the realm.

273 "Maybe she should have spelled it out for you differently so you wouldn't have to be so obtuse."

Maybe she should express herself with words that convey what she actually means.

274

No one will convince me that NORMAL parents, after having learned of something like this, would simply take money instead of getting this guy off the streets and away from any kids.

Who ever said the parents were normal?  Which actions did they take before or after their sons' time with Jackson indicated to you that anything they did was normal? 

275 270, Entropy

Yup! I got it for half price just before Circuit City went under.

276 Talismen

You are expending a lot of energy to argue elaborately that Michael Jackson wasn't provably a pedophile. Maybe you're right, but it doesn't matter. A grown man in his 40s who admits on camera that he likes to share his bed with little boys deserves whatever shitstorm of opprobrium is sent his way. He should be treated like a de facto pedophile. Occam's Razor would suggest that he in fact was. And it doesn't matter if the parents were greedy.

Even if MJ wasn't guilty, that proves he's a psycho. He insisted on putting himself in a compromising position a second time knowing what happened the first time. So, you are essentially saying "He wasn't a pedophile, he was a psycho!" Not exactly a rousing defense.

The angels do not weep that a man who confesses to sharing his bed with little boys is labeled a pedophile.

277

No one will convince me that NORMAL parents, after having learned of something like this, would simply take money instead of getting this guy off the streets and away from any kids.

Posted by: Talismen at July 07, 2009 09:13 AM (hosSA)

AFTER having heard? Grow the hell up. They knew damn well before hand and sat on the patio drinking champagne served by the maid while it happened.

I'm not suggesting  other victims will not come forward in the future, but merely stating that usually when one child comes forward, more come forward (if there are more to come forward, that is).

Really? Like all those young girls came out about Hollywood producers who they went with because mommy or their agent told them this is how it's done?

Seriously, grow up. MJ isn't your uncle. A Hollywood career buys one hell of a lot of silence, and if not that cash always works.

278

Yup! I got it for half price just before Circuit City went under.

50'? How did you get it through the door?

50"

279 Michael Jackson is dead?  Why hasn't cable news said anything about it?

280

is it football season yet?

33 days until NFL preseason.  58 until first college Thursday night game.  60 until first full slate of college.  55 until first regular season NFL (Pittsburgh/Tennessee).

Not that I'm counting.

281 278,

I didn't say 50 feet I said 50", or maybe I miss posted.

282

The "knighthood" brand has been diluted so far that I'm pretty sure the talking bear from the Snuggle commercial is a peer of the realm.

SNUGGLES IS GAY?!?!?

283 A Hollywood career buys one hell of a lot of silence, and if not that cash always works.

Only as long as the career or the cash lasts.

So...how long till Macaulay Culkin's "shockingly honest" memoirs come out?  Anyone?  I mean, on one hand he's gotta strike while the iron is hot...but on the other hand, he can't be OBVIOUS about it.

284 That should have been 65 on Steelers/titans, sorry.

285
Maybe she should express herself with words that convey what she actually means.

Posted by: Jim at July 07, 2009 09:34 AM (oyHBs

 

Hey fuck bag, if you were a regular here, you would know what the f*ck I meant.  Also, the word soldier is a very powerful word for most people.  It denotes character, strength, and courage.  The people you were talking of did not. 

286 284,

I'm counting too, I can only watch the NFL channel so much.

287

SNUGGLES IS GAY?!?!?

Snuggles and the Pillsbury Doughboy have been married for years.

288

Hey fuck bag, if you were a regular here, you would know what the f*ck I meant. 

Heh.

I never did like the * thing.

289 Any large celebrity event turns out to be a freak show, sort of like odumbass and congress!

290 Quoted on the front page over at PW:

More than 1.6 million people registered for free tickets to Jackson’s downtown memorial. A total of 8,750 people were chosen to receive two tickets each.

“I got the golden ticket!” one fan screamed out of his car window in a Willy Wonka moment as he drove out of the parking lot.

...

291 Talismen on the one hand you say that because there has been only two accusations in a 12 year span it somehow supports your position that its doubtful that MJ was a molestor but on the other hand you keep pointing out that it was 30 years before you realized you were molested and that your Uncle wasn't prosecuted.  Were you the only one he molested? According to you, if he was a molestor he would have molested a lot of kids.  Did none of them report it within the statute?

292

I never did like the * thing.

Posted by: Entropy at July 07, 2009 09:43 AM (IsLT6)

 

I never use the * thing when calling some dumn ass motherfucker a fuck bag.  Any other time, I respect Ace's wishes.

293

“I got the golden ticket!” one fan screamed out of his car window in a Willy Wonka moment as he drove out of the parking lot.

Somebody please shoot this retard.

294 I thought we were allowed to use the f-word.

Just not the n-word or c-word.

295 Don't y'all just love momma? I do!

296

# 276 - Posted by: caspera at July 07, 2009 09:36 AM

Your points are valid. I'm not saying they aren't.

I'm just pointing out that there's a reason Jordy Chandler didn't go to trial with his case, and that was most likely because it would have ended much like the 2nd one. A child who truly goes through such a thing, with parents who are interested in protecting other kids, doesn't take a pay-off and then stop the proceedings.

How MJ is judged beyond the natural life here on earth isn't in our hands. And I'm not one of those people who believes I "get to" make those judgements because of my faith.

If he was crazy - then he's crazy. He has himself to thank for the many names he's been called over the years. But, his "crazy" was born out of the shit he took from his father. Being beaten for getting dance steps wrong, is insane. We didn't much care for the spectacle of how Jon Benet Ramsey was treated by her parents, whoring that child out for nothing more than beauty pagents and admonishing her when she wasn't "pretty enough" to win...So why are we giving Jackson's father a break, when it comes to being the "monster" in his life that laid the basis for MJ's mental instabilities? Parents of child stars do this shit, and then wonder why their kids get screwed up later in life. They have only themselves to thank.

Not to mention the fact that Joe Jackson took his sons to some really freakin' nasty places to sing, when they were kids. I'm talking whore houses, strip joints, you name it. All for money. No child that age should see that kind of crap.

297 Thanks Nam Grunt.  Right back at ya!

298

?I got the golden ticket!? one fan screamed out of his car window in a Willy Wonka moment as he drove out of the parking lot.

Reason number 4,902,491 that I will never, ever, ever, ever live in California.

299 hilarious !!

The students of the school sat quietly and applauded only at the end of the 31-minute speech, which was delivered late because Obama's meeting with Russia's powerful prime minister, Vladimir Putin, went over time.

During other keynote speeches in Prague in April and Cairo in June, Obama was repeatedly applauded. His speech in Moscow was not carried live on the main Russian television channels, showing only on a cable news channel not seen by most.

"We are maybe the one country in the world where there is no Obamamania," Sergei Markov, a parliamentary deputy from the ruling United Russia party which Putin heads, told Reuters.

"For us he is not president of the world but the president of the United States of America."

300

#277 - Posted by: Rocks at July 07, 2009 09:36 AM

"Grow the hell up"

You first, Mr "I'm ok with someone else's opinion, so long as it matches my own".

Assclown.

301

dumn = dumb!

F*ck I'm an idiot!

302

But, his "crazy" was born out of the shit he took from his father.

Conjecture.  And the rest of the boys don't seem to be f'ed up.

303 Any bets that Congressman King won't be invited to the 'memorial'.  Sounds like it will be a great entertainment event.  Will they be selling 'commemorative T-shirts'.  "MJ FUNERAL, I WAS THERE'.

304 I didn't remember what had happened to me for at least 30 years. Had I remembered sooner, I can assure you I would have said something.

Just because that's the way it worked for you doesn't mean that's the way it works for everyone.

305

I wonder if Fred Phelps will be there

306

#291 - Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2009 09:48 AM

Yes, others were "messed with" by my uncle. But - they were also in the family, and, as it SHOULD be widely known - this kind of thing happens in families all the time, and nothing is said or done.

I nearly didn't tell my mother, simply because it was so many years ago, and there was really nothing to gain, other than the satisfaction of knowing that I told someone else about it.

307

#302 - Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 07, 2009 09:56 AM

"Seem to be" is the key phrase there.

They all got beat - and they all saw what MJ and his sisters went through. There's a reason why Rebe, Janet and La Toya don't spend time around dear ol' papa.

308 I wonder if Fred Phelps will be there

Ooooh.  That might be worth tuning in to see.  But I'm guessing he's too chickenshit to brave a hundred thousand...how shall I say..."urban" mourners.  He only goes places where he knows everyone has too much decorum to punch his lights out.

309 Thought of the Day:  Obama and the Democratic Congress are doing to this country what Michael Jackson did to his face.

310 You first, Mr "I'm ok with someone else's opinion, so long as it matches my own".

Assclown.

Posted by: Talismen at July 07, 2009 09:56 AM (hosSA)

It has nothing to do with agreeing with someone's opinion. It has to do with reality.

The only thing novel about Michael Jackson and kids in Hollywood is that he was so open about it. I'm just waiting for Bill Maher to go on his show and applaud Jackson for not being a hypocrite because sex shouldn't be a big deal yada, yada, yada.

311 Well, he's still talking about it. Maybe he could step up and get politically incorrect about all the destruction Obama is bring down on the US.

312 Just passed by the TV which I've left on CNN, on the off-chance that something interesting might result from this memorial thing. The anchors were saying that even though it's early, there's a big crowd already assembling, and the stupid woman marvelled that "it's so calm!" What is she expecting? People screaming and throwing themselves on the coffin and knocking the corpse out, the way they did when Ayatollah Khomeini died? People are there because it's a spectacle, not because they're insane with grief.

313 The anchors were saying that even though it's early, there's a big crowd already assembling, and the stupid woman marvelled that "it's so calm!" What is she expecting?

If they are I don't see it. They have a live shot outside the Staples Center on CNN's website and I would put the crowd at less than 5000. It's like a ghost town practically. I am really surprised by that. With no school I figured there would be tons of teens there just to enjoy the free show.

314

Ah, victory! It smells like Monty in the morning.

Yea, I'm 313th.

315 With no school I figured there would be tons of teens there just to enjoy the free show.

Who gets up that early in the summer, corpse or no?

316 213 I also question the motives of the sick f*cking parents that allowed their children to stay with MJ. 

Posted by: momma

Hey, it was little Palin's idea, not mine.

317 True Heather, true.

It's funny they keep going with a really tight shot in order to fill the frame. They did the same the night he died with the Apollo Theater even though there was only about 200 people there. They have to go in so tight to fill the frame there's only 50 or 100 people in the shot.

318 King doesn't back off

Good for him.

319 hahah someone just posted on the AT&T finance message board that they were mugged at the Staples center and in true matt drudge character, the message was "developing".

320 Jackson was unquestionably a weird guy, but that doesn't make him a pedophile.

Any man who shares a bed with little boys during overnight sleepovers is a pedophile.

Period.

Use your head.

Did he have girls sleep over? No. What's up with that? I thought his excuse was he just loved all children?

But not girls? Did he magically understand that sleeping with them would be inappropriate, but was too "innocent" not to understand that sleeping with boys would be inappropriate?

What would you think if your neighbor did this? Would you say, "Awww... he's just eccentric"? I doubt it.

I've been hit on by pedophiles ... twice. I know exactly how these predators operate. Neverland Ranch? Nothing more than a honeypot for young boys.

If a pedophile likes teenage boys he'll try to lure them with video games, porn and booze instead. His whole house will be nothing more than an amusement park geared to attracting what he is seeking. Same method ... different bait.

321

Monty, your narrative is mesmerizing but lay off Elvis.  I, for one, remember Elvis on the cover of People magazine in 1975 when he turned 40.  He was handsome, masculine and a tremendous showman.  That's how I remember him. 

Plus, somehow it's a relief that this was Rep King of NY versus Steve of Iowa.  Steve goes off the politically correct deep end occasionally and the mild-mannered citizens around here don't really like it.  Steve is a reliable "NO" vote to most legislation.  That level of consistency must be protected. 

322 I wouldn't let my child or grandchild in the same room as Peter King or any other congressman either.

Dead men can't sue for slander. I wish I was a new yorker so I could vote against this fucker.

323 Any man who shares a bed with little boys during overnight sleepovers is a pedophile.

Period.

Use your head.

He mentally regressed to a 10 year old.

Did he have girls sleep over? No. What's up with that? I thought his excuse was he just loved all children?

Girls have cooties.


But not girls? Did he magically understand that sleeping with them would be inappropriate, but was too "innocent" not to understand that sleeping with boys would be inappropriate?

No. Children tend to segregate themselves by gender.

What would you think if your neighbor did this? Would you say, "Awww... he's just eccentric"? I doubt it.

I've been hit on by pedophiles ... twice. I know exactly how these predators operate. Neverland Ranch? Nothing more than a honeypot for young boys.

So have I. He was nothing like michael jackson.

If a pedophile likes teenage boys he'll try to lure them with video games, porn and booze instead. His whole house will be nothing more than an amusement park geared to attracting what he is seeking. Same method ... different bait.

Posted by: Warden at July 07, 2009 12:29 PM (KXbGD)

Please do yourself a service and actually do some real research other than your subjective "common sense" which is never used in courts for very good reason. There's a reason why he was acquitted the second time. Both times he was targeted by gold diggers and would've probably settled both due to his mental state if the second hadn't been a criminal trial.

324

"SNUGGLES IS GAY?!?!?"

Choking on cocoa-tea is painful.

Anyone arguing about whether parents of children can be money-grubbing sickos should look up "Lohan, Lindsey and Ali."

 

325 He mentally regressed to a 10 year old.

Posted by: Johnny at July 07, 2009 01:22 PM (I6sTJ)

So have you if you believe that load of malarky.

326

Please do yourself a service and actually do some real research other than your subjective "common sense"

Common sense has served me quite well over the years. I'm sorry it hasn't done the same for you. Perhaps you just need some practice at it.

 

327 Holy shit!  hahahahahahahahaha

328 I was going to stay out of this, but I need to say "Fuck you, Peter King."  While the trial was going on, I thought that Michael Jackson was guilty.  He was acquitted in a court of law, after a very humiliating physical inspection that belied his accuser.  I always wondered, at the time, why no one was pointing the finger of accusation at these childrens' parents. 

I don't believe Michael Jackson was a child molester.  I remember, with a mixture of tears and smiles, what a phenomenal talent he was, how watching him perform, in his prime, sent an electricity through anyone who witnessed it.

RIP, Michael Jackson.  You were weird and sad in many ways, but your gift was real and you gave it to a world that you frequently found cold and critical and unwelcoming.  RIP.

329

So ....Farrah Fawcett goes to heaven & St. Peter tells her she has one wish, before entering heaven.

She then wishes that all the children of the world can be kept safe.

Her wish is then granted & Michael Jackson is sent to hell.

 

330

Jackoff was a sick fuck and I'm glad he's dead.

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, bury the freak , and get on the bus.

331 I notice a mistake being made on the subject of MJ and pedophilia.

Evil parents suing MJ falsely or extorting him, and MJ being a pedophile are NOT mutually exclusive. In fact, in the case of the 22 million dollar settlement, both where most likely true.

332

WHAT A FUCKING BORE!

WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT MICHAEL JACKSON? 

WHO CARES WHAT HAPPENS TO A MIDDLE-AGED-OVER THE HILL-TEENAGER-SHOWBIZ-HAZBEEN WHO HASN'T BEEN CREATIVE FOR DECADES?

333 Regardless of Peter King's personal feelings on Michael Jackson, he is a Congressman and possibly we learn to expect a certain amount of professionalism and decorum from our elected officials. (ha ha)  instead of YouTube rants of malicious accusations . A good blog on this today is http://newsy1.wordpress.com  As Newsy1 points out "Maybe he will get elected as dog catcher after this.

334 Could you help me. Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
I am from Nauru and also now am reading in English, give true I wrote the following sentence: "There are many ways to make money investing."

Thanks 8-). Julinka.

335 Could you help me Yesterday I was browsing and came here, still wanna come back Would like to chat .
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