1 She's making some kind of big announcement, about her future, from Wasilla at 3:00 Alaska time today.

2 All I have to say about Sarah Palin is; I voted for her last time, and if I can, I'll vote for her next time.

3 Yeah just seen on Fox News she's talking about her future plans? Hmmm, maybe she reads AoSHQ.

4 Drew pretty much summed up my opinion of her. She (or whomever is the GOP rep) will also have to be able to correct the media repeatedly during every interview, without sounding too confrontational.

5 I have seen videos  of President Bush when he was Governor of Texas, he was quite articulate and agressive, I liked what I saw and heard.  Watching him attempt to get something done on social security, and watching our "free" press silence him, I have my doubts about Governor Palin.   I, too, voted for her, sent money to McCain based on her, but if our press/media silences her, it does not matter what she has to say, we will not hear it.

6 Ok. So I think she is kind of hot and you got to like conservative babes. But I do get tired of her quips. Mostly I like her because she pisses of the left so much. They become they're unvarnished unhinged selves when ever she speaks. I really would like an option other than Sarah.

7 Pretty much spot-on. Great person, but not ready for the Presidency.

8 Yeah, I've been participating in this discussion at Hot Air and the majority view appears to be that because Jonah is already in the tank for Romney, that this is a stealth hit job against Sarah.  I don't know how in the tank Jonah is for anyone, but at face value his words do seem to make sense to me.  She can't play the role of pure populist and expect to win.  She's got to project the image of a far more serious candidate.

Actually this whole thing reminds me of the discussion they had at Redstate last year before the VP pick.  Several people were suggesting that McCain should pick an up-and-coming star in the GOP (they suggested Jindal) because even if his campaign isn't successful, it will give the VP nominee experience and exposure for his own run 4 years later.  But others were quick to point out that a failed VP candidate from either party has never gone on to win the Presidency in the next election.  Ever ever ever.  So here we are, McCain picked a rising star in the GOP, one that gets lots of people excited, and she has an incredible mountain to climb if she's going to be successful in 2012.

9

yea  and Ronald Reagan is only an actor who can possibly befieve that he can be president.

me thinks some of the objections to Palin on the conservative side is the belief that she has been too damaged by the Dems to succeed in 2012.  such beliefs are never acknowledged out front but rather it is usually couched in logical arguments such as those forwarded by Goldberg.

10 I'm thinking she's going to announce she's not running for president.  She doesn't seem the type to really want it, nor does she seem the type willing to put her family through more of the hellish muckraking her detractors seem to delight in.

11 Sorry for the erroneous information up there, her announcement will be 3 pm ET.  So, fifteen minutes from now.

Anyone else hoping for a first secession to get the ball rolling?  Maybe get Perry out there next?

12 Jonah should not have said a "laughingstock fairly or not..." That concedes too much but may have been unthinking.
He sometimes sounds like he got his impression of her from mangled MSM interviews with her, not her uncut, unedited interviews and speeches. I don't consider her a whiner either.
OTOH she does need to gain wider knowledge of some subjects but there is plenty of time for that. The question is whether she will be able to overcome the continuing MSM and Democrat demonization campaign.

13 Bumper Sticker platitudes don't work? Did you not witness the same election I did last year?

14 Maybe she's declaring Alaskan Independence!

15 I'm really getting tired of the endless "advice" from pundits.  First they say she has to spend more time in the lower 48 and travelling abroad, and then when she does, they say she needs to focus on governing Alaska.  Enough already.  Romney and Huckabee don't have real jobs.  They can spend all their time on self-promotion, fundraising, hobnobbing, interviews, etc.  She doesn't have that luxury.  She has a legislature full of corrupt idiots to herd, as well as a corrupt state Republican party apparatus that hates her guts and would love to destroy her.  Add into the mix the fat, ugly, unemployed libtard losers in Juneau who file ethics complaints against her for wearing an ArcticCat jacket, and several natural disasters such as massive flooding and Mt. Redoubt to contend with.  She doesn't have time to play their stupid games.

16 She was constrained by McCain's policy positions.

17 Jonah missed his own point. Palin does need to improve her knowledge, but she does not need to showcase that she is doing so.

In fact, to reveal in any way that she is "boning up" (that ought to wake morons up) will drop the 16-ton weight on her campaign.

Let Reagan be Reagan and now let Palin be Palin.

18
I realized the other day why the Democrats are continuing their attacks on Gov Palin.

The Left isn't worried about Sarah Palin running against Obama in 2012; they're trying to torpedo her reelection campaign in Alaska. If she's decides not to run for another term I'm sure it has something to do with the bullshit her and her family are being put through by the Left.

Either way, the attacks on Palin are about the governorship in Alaska, not the 2012 presidential campaign.

19 She's making some kind of big announcement, about her future, from Wasilla at 3:00 Alaska time today.




Maybe she'll announce that Alaska will be seceding from the union.




^{O.K., one can dream.}

20 it is the height of idiocy to provide public rebukes from conservative "intellectuals" to possible 2012 nominees - the left simply reroutes those immediately, and will continue to do so thru 2012, as "Even Conservatives say Palin is a fucking idiot"

Im very disappointed in jonah, krautie and now this blog.

if conservatives don't at least review why the left is ascendant now, the no holds barred verbal warfare with no friendly fire (i.e. what the left has done since nov 2000), and learn from it, no way we can get back on top in this modern media and political world.

that starts with our "leaders" in the media not putting knives in our political leader's backs.

21 Thank you, Jonah Goldberg, for confirming the wisdom of my decision not to renew my subscription to National Review.

22

Oh boy, if Sarah drops out we'll get a nice wonkish dishwater Republican with zero charisma, but he's respected by the insiders.

Time for a third party.

Please give us a conservative who will fight, with imagination, who will take the brickbats of the elitists who are driving this once great country into the ground for their own aggrandisement

23 She'd have the perfect mix if she could go totally wonk on certain issues.

24 .For starters, every time I see you on TV, you’re whining about unfair press coverage.

I'd like an example of this, because I haven't seen it.

Responding to a bunch of sleazy smear merchants is whining? Really? She should say nothing while people attack her kids?

Hey, you know what would be awesome. If all these dickbag "conservatives" who criticize Palin for talking about unfair press coverage would step up and take it on for her so she doesn't have to.

That's sorta their job, you know? Take a hatchet to the other side so the faces of the party can rise above it all.

But I guess that's asking too much, huh? Easier to stay on the sidelines and sneer at her like the rest of your cocktail party butt-buddies, isn't it?

With friends like this, who needs enemies?

25 4 She (or whomever is the GOP rep) will also have to be able to correct the media repeatedly during every interview, without sounding too confrontational.

Posted by: SDH at July 03, 2009 01:42 PM (QEwb6)

Liz Chaney is the champion of this.  She does it competently and eviscerates whomever is interviewing her....without ever raising her voice.

26

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope she isn't announcing that she will not seek reelection next year... NO! what a loss!!!

27

You guys talk about how “bad” her interviews were and how she can do a good speech.  Doesn’t that tell you something?  Do you need to be hit with a clue bat? 

 

How in the hell do you explain how she did so well in the LIVE debate with Plugs and then did so bad on the interviews by the MSM propaganda vendors News?

 

You all gripe about MSM bias and then turn around and take their interviews as gospel.

 

What Palin needs to do is get a campaign staff that isn’t out to “get” her and one that knows how to outwit the media. You know, someone who will tell them no editing or all interviews must be live. 

 

What conservatives need to do is support her and quit sounding like damn “concern trolls”. 

 

 What liberal squishy R’s need to do is change the R after their name to D and STFU.

28 Maybe she's going to announce a new Palin nudie calendar to raise money for her bid to become POTUS?

29 I agree.  Liz Cheney would be an awesome candidate for conservatives. 

30

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope she isn't announcing that she will not seek reelection next year... NO! what a loss!!!

Relax, I think she'll be announcing a Senate run.

31

I hope she wears those shorts she had on in the Runners magazine pics.

I have the "hand" lotion and tissues at the ready

32 She's announcing California's on its own.

33

Relax, I think she'll be announcing a Senate run.

Posted by: Blazer at July 03, 2009 01:56 PM (AoS9J)

That's what I am thinking, as well.  It will blow more liberal heads than running for President.

34 What 15 said.  Sarah Palin has the ability no other Republican has, and that is to generate buzz.  Talk of her lack of seasoning is laughable - check out the current occupant of the White House, the empty suit who beat a veteran Senator and bonafide war hero!  She has a lot more to teach the "insiders" in the Republican party than they have to teach her: how'd that RINO strategy work out for you, McCain?  Worked pretty shitty for America, doofus.

35 Please update post here with details... i don't have cable. 

36

I don't know why pointing that out in a constructive way is tantamount to treason, yet for some it is.

I don't think Palin supporters think it is. I do think they get annoyed at cocks like AllahPundit who plays up every single nasty comment or criticism of Palin and rarely mentions the substantive, policy-oriented things that she's involved with. I think they get annoyed by people who seem completely ignorant of the times that Palin does talk policy and only pay attention when the MSM freak show mugs her in broad daylight.

37
Willow is pregnant?

38 Please update post here with details... i don't have cable. 

Posted by: Editor at July 03, 2009 01:58 PM (en7mZ)

Yes, please, me too!  ';-)

39 This is not the way you announce a a re-election bid. She's either announcing she's not running for reelection or that she's not running in 2012.

40 You don't get a second chance to make a first impression.

41 No, being elected to the Senate will be worse than getting a lobotomy!

42
I hope it's something about energy/oil/gas.

You know, just to throw a monkey wrench in Obama's Cap & Trade sham.

43 Poor Jonah, always the bridesmaid never the bride.

He's a Mittbot. Mitt couldn't even beat MexCaine; and Sarah Palin needs training wheels but Mitt is an F-22 pilot?

Eat your vegetables and then you may have dessert, Jonah.

44

You don't get a second chance to make a first impression.

Then you shouldn't have been a dickmitten.

 

45 That's what I am thinking, as well.  It will blow more liberal heads than running for President.


Thats because she can do more damage in The Senate. Being relatively young she can build and solidifly her conservative credentials even more and gain even more respect there for several years before concentrating on national office. I just don't think 2012 is her year. 2016 maybe.

46 She was the only reason I even voted in this last election...

...having said that, I STILL think she is not ready to be president. I would love to see her as Romney's running mate, and then after two terms as vice president, she'll have what's needed for the big job.

47
She's out in 2010

48

Anyone else hoping for a first secession to get the ball rolling?  Maybe get Perry out there next?

Please, God, no. I have enough ammo but not enough food stores and need to drop at least 20 pounds first.

Plus I need to spend more time training the wife and kids.

49 Tweets,

That's a possibility, too.  I thought she had some big announcement in the pipeline.  Did that take place, already?

50
CNN says she's out, Editor

51 Maybe she should study the financial wizardry of Mitt Romney by enforcing   health care mandates to bankrupt her state's health care system.

Or better yet she should also study how Mitt Romney raised his hand to AL Gore's Global Warming.

These two simple steps should improve her image with the sophisticated intellectual class who are so smart.

52 Maybe announcing a coup de etat?  I'm in.

53
Well, it's coming from Rick cocksucker Sanchez, so...

54 "You don't get a second chance to make a first impression."

Paste that on your monitor, thug.

55

28 Maybe she's going to announce a new Palin nudie calendar to raise money for her bid to become POTUS?

Ya know..I had never pictured her in my mind's eye nekkid before..

..but I am now...oh hell yeah

56 Palin-Cheney 2012!

57 I don't actually care if she's palatable to the left or those who want to be seen as 'reasonable' by the left.

Would she be better for the country than the Young Pioneers we've got now? Are you kidding me, a carrot would better than what we've got!

She truly is the girl next door, not some sort of larger-than-life leader. But since We The People, the people next door, people out here in the real world, have no representatives in Washington these days, she gets my vote.

58 I think the situation is going to be so dire by 2012 that someone like Romney or Jindal will be seen as more seasoned and experienced than Palin- especially since '12 is going to be a referendum on Obama.
The GOP will be inclined to go with drama-free.

59
I think she's had enough of the bullshit from the media and the douchebags in the Republican party.

The Left won. That sucks. And it pisses me off. A lot.

60 Has anyone heard anything from Palin directly, or is this all Cockholster News Network spin?

61

I hear she's announcing that she is coming out in favor of cap-and-trade, government-run healthcare...and another stimulus...

HAHAHAHA...that was fun!!

62 She herself hasn't spoken yet, CB.

63 She's a great candidate for what America used to be and used to stand for.  Sadly, looks like we are becoming a socialist country.

64

Has anyone heard anything from Palin directly...

I gave her my phone number but she never calls!

65 Thanks, Tweets.

66  Goldberg writes:

President Bush had the same problem you do, which is why there’s a hunger for Republicans who can effectively articulate and sell our policies and philosophy. That’s why the wonks have the upper hand. Mitt Romney, Indiana governor Mitch Daniels, Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal, and other hands-on types are what the party wants and, frankly, needs.


Let's see, Romney, he of the Massachusetts Health Card bill, very conservative.  MItch Daniels quote:
"A consumption tax on a product you'd just as soon have less of doesn't violate the rules I learned under Ronald Reagan."  Plus the 1% tax increase on people of Inidiana making above $100K a year, yes, yes very conservative, invoke Reagan and everyone gives you a pass I guess.  And the last I saw Jindal, he was being excoriated by the press for giving some geek response to Obama's State of the Union.   Sounds exactly like what the Republican party needs.  From the above and Goldberg getting in touch with his inner Katie Couric (who gave almost the exact same advise to Palin) I'd say that he was about to jump into the talk shows and needed this as the price he has to pay. 


Me personally, I'm agnostic on Palin, like her personally, but don't know if she would make a good president, but if the likes of Romney is what is good for the republican party (I'm not a member) then it really does need to fade away.  It's just more of the same Dem lite as far as I can see. 

67 Thanks, Tami!

68 Palin-Cheney 2012!

Hey, that's MY line!  Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so thank you.  I'd settle for Palin-Bolton, too.

69 I think people want reassurance that she's not just a pretty face. She doesn't have to telegraph anything. I'd love to see her give Reaganesque speeches about first principles. My biggest complaint is she hasn't seemed smooth.

I think she could give Romney good credibility with soc-cons. He'd be the front runner if the economy is still in the toilet. I don't know if Romney would want someone with an independent base on his team though. It'd be his loss.

70 For starters, every time I see you on TV, you’re whining about unfair press coverage. Don’t get me wrong: Much of it is unfair, and some of it deserves a response. But it’s not presidential.

Yes Jonah, presidential is blaming all your fuckups on your predecessor, bragging about every little fly you swat, getting snippy and snotty whenever a hard question is thrown your way, and generally acting like an arrogant ass.

Yeh, we dodged a bullet there.

Bring on the balding, charisma challenged wonks or the coiffed rich boys with no backbone. Yay!

71 She will proclaim Alaskan independence and dare Barry to say squat.

72 FOX is now also announcing that she won't seek re-election. 

73 I don't like Sarah Palin. She is icky.

74 Dole, Kerry, and Gore were jokes. Especially Kerry and Gore. Only idiots would vote for those two. Oh wait....

75 Palin-Cheney 2012!

Nah.

Cheney-Cheney 2012!
Doubling Down on Evil

76 There's a reason Dole, Gore, Kerry, etc. gave it one shot and then pulled out.

Posted by: poon at July 03, 2009 02:12 PM (i31Zq)

Wow - you're as ignorant as someone who's really, really ignorant.

(shout out to rdbrewer!!!)

77 I'm sorry, but the idea that Palin can roll into the 2012 campaign with a clean slate is simply not credible.


Actually she has a clean slate. Unless your talking about all of the dirt the state run ACORN-Soros media manufactured about her.

78 Palin-Cheney 2012!

Hey, that's MY line!  Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so thank you.  I'd settle for Palin-Bolton, too.

Actually Dave, that's MY line. But I'll share

79

I'd settle for Palin-Bolton, too.

How about Cheney - Cheney?  If the first one don't get ya, then the next one will!

80 The irony of Jonah Goldberg questioning Sarah's qualifications is that his only qualification when he burst upon the scene was that he was Luciane Goldberg's son.

81

Can’t be much going on. Fox’s web site is still headlining Michael Jackson and the “breaking news” is the murder of wrestling midgets by whores.

 

Fair and Balanced there.

82 There's a reason Dole, Gore, Kerry, etc. gave it one shot and then pulled out.

Posted by: poon at July 03, 2009 02:12 PM (i31Zq)

And then there's Edwards, who wished he'd pulled out!

BADDA-BING!

83 57 marbles in my butt! A new record!

84

I have seen videos  of President Bush when he was Governor of Texas, he was quite articulate and agressive, I liked what I saw and heard.  Watching him attempt to get something done on social security, and watching our "free" press silence him, I have my doubts about Governor Palin.   I, too, voted for her, sent money to McCain based on her, but if our press/media silences her, it does not matter what she has to say, we will not hear it.

Did they silence Reagan? No, and we had only a handful of media outlets.

I agree with Drew. I want someone who can articulate the conservative position clearly and consistently. Bush wasn't it. McCain sure wasn't. Palin can be, but needs to work on it.

85 75,

Impressive. Most impressive.

86 Remember the names of the McCain campaign rat motherfuckers and remember them well. Any candidate who hires any of them is dead in the water

Steve Schmidt
Nicolle Wallace
Rick Davis
Randy Scheunemann

Jonah and his insider buddies can put forth some wonk they like, but I won't cross the street to support them.

87 What a coincidence, so is Palin.




When you absolutely know that you have picked the best candidate to run?

When they cant' shut up about them/her.

Fear is a bitch.

No pun intended.

88 @24 Warden: Responding to a bunch of sleazy smear merchants is whining? Really? She should say nothing while people attack her kids?

Exactly right. I haven't seen her whining either.

What is starting to annoy the crap outta me is all the mumbly talking heads gravely speaking about how she has to "rehab" her image.

Right- she needs to atone for a bunch of unfair horseshit slung by a herd of msm motards bent on her destruction. Yeah, that makes sense.

@13 JohnJ- no kidding. The Plastic Messiah gets elected on "Hope n' Change", "Yes we can", a suntan, and a stack of made up press releases.

But Palin is the one that has to get away from cliches and platitudes. Right.

89 kbdabear, Redstate supposedly sent that message ot every perceived player in the 2012 POTUS sweepstakes on the right.

90 Always look to whom the DemSM is most vicious towards, for those are the ones they fear. Jonah is still a DemSM elitist at heart, so he'll be one of those idiots who take the "friendly advice" from those who chat with him at dinner parties.

91 I'm sorry, but the idea that Palin can roll into the 2012 campaign with a clean slate is simply not credible.

Sure let's put up Bobby Jindel instead so that the media can spend the entire campaign season crucifying him for being a 'creationist who performs exorcisms"

Or Mitt Romney so the media can crucify him for imposing health care mandates which bankrupted the state of Massachusetts.

And mostly certainly do a Newt Gingrich, make sure that whoever is the next Reagan, insist that they raise their hands to Al Gore Global Warming hysteria.

92 89 kbdabear, Redstate supposedly sent that message ot every perceived player in the 2012 POTUS sweepstakes on the right.

Good for them. The whole sniping is that it's not THEIR fault that they lost, it was that nutty hick Sarah Palin's fault.

If it weren't for the huge spike in donations that Sarah brought in, they would have been flying standby and eating ramen noodles

93

Bumper Sticker platitudes don't work? Did you not witness the same election I did last year?

 

But it’s easier for voters to ‘get’ the liberal position on any topic (poverty? Give them money! Homelessness? Give them homes! War? Be nice! Health Care costs? Make the government pay!)

 

The conservative positions are less childish. It takes consistent promotion and explanation, and  it’s made all the more difficult with a media establishment rooting for the other side.

 

Reagan was explaining conservative ideas for 25 years prior to being elected president.

94 Look, the libs are throwing everything they can at this woman. But nobody's paying attention to what they say. Their readership and viewership are down.

I hope she doesn't run for Senate. But then again, she'd still have more executive experience than Barry.

95 Cheney-Cheney 2012!
Doubling Down on Evil

Posted by: DrewM. at July 03, 2009 02:14 PM (iTt2X)

With Bolton as Secretary of State? Ooooooh.....

96

Posted by: poon at July 03, 2009 02:16 PM (i31Zq)

You're the joke, you little fuck.  Come out of the basement and see what your mom has sticking to her cheek. 

97

Let Reagan be Reagan and now let Palin be Palin.

eman,

Goldberg would probably respond that Reagan did exactly what he is advising Palin to do. Years and years traveling the country, discussing and debating issues of the day, before running for president.

98 I stole an old sweatsock from my paperboy's trash can. It still smells like him. I carry it with me everywhere.

99 Still no sign of her?  Sigh.  Sometimes I think I'd vote for the punctual candidate . . .

100 Dear Krauty.....

No to running for president with just cliches and platitudes......HOPE AND CHANGE


Sarah knows more about America than the whole hussein cabinet...hillary included.

101 Maybe, just maybe, she has had enough of being the favorite target of Alaskan liars, media lefties and smarmy McCain staffers.  Offhand, I can't think of another family that has suffered half as many unjustified attacks from such a broad range of charlatans.

And who could blame her?

102

I agree.  That whole thing with speaking in platitudes but not really knowing what the fuck you're talking about?  Never works.

103 Over on HA they are saying that she is resigning and the Lt. Gov. will be sworn in at the end of July.  WTF????  Anybody seen her actually make a statement? 

Holy crap!

104 @93 CJ- The conservative positions are less childish. It takes consistent promotion and explanation, and  it’s made all the more difficult with a media establishment rooting for the other side.

Partly correct. Conservative positions are indeed less childish, as the vast majority of liberal positions could have been written by Peter Pan.

Additionally, consistent promotion and explanation of conservative positions IS needed ,  because the MSM is chock full of whining brats who are emotionally invested in their own rampant peter pan-ism. As such, they will continually misrepresent, alter, or outright lie about our positions as you stated.

However, liberal positions aren't easier to "get" than conservative positions intrinsically- I don't think Reagan's messages were all that complex- Daylight in America, Are you better or worse off than four years ago? America is an exceptional place, etc. are not all that complex.

105

The irony of Jonah Goldberg questioning Sarah's qualifications is that his only qualification when he burst upon the scene was that he was Luciane Goldberg's son.

You're right. There is a great deal of irony going on around here. Now we have, I assume, a conservative using left-wing talking points to criticize another conservative for apparently adopting the left-wing view of Sarah Palin and using that to criticize her. Interesting.

And, what is Lucciane Goldberg famous for, exactly? I had never heard of her until years after I knew who Jonah was. And, isn't kind of ridiculous that someone who has a (supposedly) famous parent cannot make a name for himself without being criticized? What the hell can he do about it?

I don't agree with everything in his article, but he's right in that Palin is going to have to make quite an effort to change the public's opinion of her if she wants to ever be President. Sure, the public's opinion was formed based on vicious and unfair portrayals by Democrats and their media allies, but the damage is done. The question becomes, where do we go from here?

I support conservatism first, Palin a distant second. If she can be the one to present a clear, consistent, and persuasive conservative message, great. If not, I hope someone else can. But she's not above criticism from conservatives just because the left hates her.

Most of the left's criticism are unfair, but so what? When have they ever been fair? That doesn't mean that every criticism of her is unfair.

106 I regret just ordering Goldberg's Liberal Fascism. I'll move up Levin's Liberty & Tyranny.

Amazing listening to these talking heads. See how well our government is working? Well, it just makes sense that we should follow the exact same templates and exact same process and exact same mouthpieces that we've followed before... so that we can get the exact same results. Idiots "leading" us with insanity.

The Beltway that is a ceaseless Borg. Doesn't anyone think it's time that maybe we should quit listening to all this "constructive criticism" from the DC bubble? It's a fucking failure and we suffer it and its fools every day.

We want a leader and a manager. Palin can do this. Hell, Obama got to be King and he is neither. Obama had a machine of supporters escorting through the gauntlet. The Right? Oh, let's tear Palin down because, well, the media has been utterly corrupt in smearing her and we should still give the smears life. We shouldn't, however, put up a fight, because well, we just shouldn't.

Now we have the Left and the Right saying she's inadequate. Bullshit. We are seeing a concerted effort by the Left and some "conservatives" to diminish a great person and fine politician. Perfect? No. No one is. But Palin remains entirely capable. She has met with more criticism, the overwhelming majority of which has been unfair, than anyone I've ever seen. She still maintains her class and common appeal. But what is the common thread of critics besides partisanship? An undying committment to status quo and a bastardized election process where image and projection mean more than character and integrity.

I'll listen to Palin. Goldberg? Less now than I did before.

107 Here's my list of dishwater sure losers for 2012

Pawlenty - a wonk with no charisma, no chance. Looks droll
Fuckabee - backstabbing motherfucker who made sure we got McCain, who stayed in the primary races even though he had no chance, just to draw away votes from Romney
Romney - he's behind a lot of this backstabbing. and the healthcare in MA tells me that he's a RINO in disguise

Jonah's favorite, Bobby Jindal needs a lot of work on the charisma side.

108 Why the delay?

109 Sarah knows more about America than the whole hussein cabinet...hillary included.

Posted by: free at July 03, 2009 02:26 PM (cFwGO)

No doubt, but she won't have the entire press corps on their backs with their legs in the air; it takes a special skill to repeatedly correct the media sockpuppets without coming off as an dickwad.

110 Poon- "Assuming the economy is perking up by mid 2012..."

That's an assumption I'm not willing to make, given the kleptocratic junta infesting our white house at this time.

The fact that you are willing to make this assumption speaks volumes about your stupidity.

111 Got this at another site.  Trying to verify but....:

Breaking news
NBC News and news services
updated 5 minutes ago

Sarah Palin plans to step down as governor of Alaska, KTUU-TV reported Friday.

Palin, the Republican vice presidential candidate in 2008, won’t finish out her first term as governor, the station said.

Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell will take over, KTUU reported.

112

Fox: Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said Friday that she would not seek a second term, setting up a potential run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012.

113 OK, any elitist douchebag who has had a hand in taking down Sarah Palin has to be made to pay. Especially those on the conservative side. Fuck them with red hot pokers up the ass.

And poon, I'm not in the mood today for you, go home and get your fuckin' shine box you dickless dork.

114 Fox is confirming the resignation now too.

115

However, liberal positions aren't easier to "get" than conservative positions intrinsically- I don't think Reagan's messages were all that complex- Daylight in America, Are you better or worse off than four years ago? America is an exceptional place, etc. are not all that complex.

 

buster, those are slogans and broad concepts, not positions.  Big difference.

 

Liberals have a government program for any problem you can name. And they can speak at length about each of them.  And they can weave them all together in a nice storyline about sticking up for the little guy.

 

Conservatives, by contrast, have to run by promising to do less if elected. That takes some explanation.

116 Think she might be getting set to take on Murkowski for the Senate in 2010?

117

Yeah, CNN and MSNBC are posting that same BS about resigning but they are based on “reports” and rumour. Fox does not have it and their reort is based on the actual announcement.

118 For what it's worth, Margaret Thatcher took elocution lessons to help her with the extreme snobbery and chauvinism that was present in British politics.  She never had to compromise her ideals though, which were not class-based.

119 @115 CJ- fair enough, good points.

However, I would point you to the current monstrosity infesting our White House. He was elected on slogans and a suntan.

But your point is well taken- it takes time to explain to the voters that think like 4 year olds why they can't have cake, ice cream, and free health care and be able to play all day too.

120 Vic, FOX has it also.

FOX reporting that according to Todd Palin: "She will do things for Alaska and the country....." and I missed the rest of the quote, damnit!!!

121 CNN says she is not seeking re-election.  Which is it, stepping down or not going for a second term?

122 Their web site story based on the actual announcement doesn't have it.

123 ok, the rest of the quote from Todd was "...doing things for the Alaska and the country that she's passionate about."

124

In This Thread:  Policy wonks want candidate to be policy wonk.

In Previous Threads:  Speechwriters like candidate that gives good speeches.

These people are paid handsomely to accurately and objectively evaluate candidates, yet apparently I (an absolute nobody) need to explain to the professionals how things work in the real world.  For the last damned time:

What wins elections isn't having the most detailed policies, experience, or knowledge of the issues.  What does win is being the candidate voters would better like to share a six pack with.  Every. Fucking. Time.

 

125 124- Hear! Hear!

126 Greta reporting that two weeks ago Sarah signed a letter looking for funds for her Sarahpac.

Greta saying that people "should NOT underestimate Sarah Palin". 

127 Hollowpoint@124,

Why should I listen to you? Did you go to Harvard? Yale? Columbia? Do you know how to sniff your own farts? Are you quoted somewhere?

Pfft. Go away, son. You bother me.

128

I think we should each donate to SarahPAC if for no other reason than to thank her for the respite from the wall-to-wall Jacko coverage.

129 40 You don't get a second chance to make a first impression.

Posted by: poon at July 03, 2009 02:00 PM (i31Zq)

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Palin's first impression on the national stage was amongst the best, hence the attempt at political character assasination by liberal media.

130

129  Palin's first impression on the national stage was amongst the best, hence the attempt at political character assasination by liberal media.

Hell, yeah.  They wouldn't spend this much effort to destroy her if they weren't afraid of her.  They know she's smart and can quickly get up to speed in the areas where her knowledge and/or expertise is thin. She relates to people the way Reagan did, and that scares the shit out of them.

131

I don't think any Republican candidate will ever again get a fair shake unless they own TV channels or newspapers, and not just the way Obama does.

132 .For starters, every time I see you on TV, you’re whining about unfair press coverage. Don’t get me wrong: Much of it is unfair, and some of it deserves a response. But it’s not presidential. It’s not even gubernatorial. You are constantly taking the bait, taking up the fights your biggest fans want you to take up.

Stopped reading this "expert" analysis right there. Because the current president who is so 'presidential' never whines about any unflattering news coverage or commentary, right? Fox News, anyone? Rush Limbaugh, anyone?... Bueller? ...Goldberg?

133 I regret just ordering Goldberg's Liberal Fascism

Don't. Despite all else, it's a good read, and packed with historical information many of us never heard, but need to.

134

This place is beginning to sound like Frum or Rick Moran's.  Full of RINOs.  Next thing they'll have Noonan writting here.

 

I guess you all are not getting enough of those invites to those fancy cocktail parties.

 

We need more people like Palin and fewer community organizers and RINOs.  By the way exactly what has Goldberg ever done?

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