1 Pineapple head. That sounds painful.

2 Jesus H.  Why won't this guy just shut the hell up?

3 Pathetic. 

4 seems to me like Sanford got slipped some bad koolaid a ways back

5 Gov. Sanford, you can stop digging now.

6

Heh. And you guys said Canadians were losers.

This and Franken in one day. Almost makes up for you getting rid of Micheal DeadJackson.

 

7 Listen, just be thankful Barney Frank isn't (so far) taking cues from this.

Do we really want to read HIS love notes??????

Especially if they include his "dusky" Chicago lover?

Just sayin.

8 There was an argument floating around that Sanford should stick it out to defy the media's Republican scandal=resignation habit.

I no longer think Sanford is the hill to die on.  Get lost, you stupid fuck,

9 Oooook Mark. Thanks for playing. Here are your lovely parting gifts now shut your mouth and get the hell out of here.

10 Welcome to the Culture of Confession.  Everything you never wanted to know, and then some. 

11 9 Oooook Mark. Thanks for playing. Here are your lovely parting gifts now shut your mouth and get the hell out of here.

FIFY

I feel for his kids.  I mean, how many times a day can they endure their father embarrassing himself?

12 I hear Barney Frank calls his soulmate "PoopieHead"

13 Who else has to die to get this idiot off the front page.

14 'There was an argument floating around that Sanford should stick it out to defy the media's Republican scandal=resignation habit.'

The talk here in SC is that Sanford is not resigning in order to prevent sworn enemy Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer from taking office.  Bauer intends on running for governor in 2010 and his political enemies don't want him getting an 18 month trial run in the office.

15 I think that's what Barney calls his Johnson.

16 I think it was actually "pineapple nipples."

17

Wow, is Sanford having a psychotic break with reality or what?

18 Next up:  Oprah and The View.

19 He didn't really call her Pineapple-Head.

No, but now we know what Ace thinks sweet-talk is supposed to sound like.

20 I like what Allahpundit said....his staff needs to get him away from the microphone before he starts telling us what positions he and Maria tried out.  Funny

At this point, I feel like his therapist and I should be charging him a fee.

tink

21 Move to Argentia and become a ghost Mark, you are fucking up more now than what you did, damn I hate to see metro men act like 14 year olds, man up Mark and MOVE!!!!!!

22 13 Who else has to die to get this idiot off the front page.

That might be the oddest factor in all this.  When Michael Jackson died, Sanford was instantly relegated to the very bottom of the news cycle.  Fucking idiot has actually fought his way back into the spotlight.

23 Someone check his pants.  I think he left his balls in Argentina.

24 Feelings, nothing more than feelings,
trying to forget my feelings of love.
Teardrops rolling down on my face,
trying to forget my feelings of love.

Feelings, for all my life I'll feel it.
I wish I've never met you, girl; you'll never come again.

Feelings, wo-o-o feelings,
wo-o-o, feel you again in my arms.

25 WTF is wrong with this a$$hole? Somebody stuff a stock in his mouth and give him a one way ticket to Argentina.

26 You will you be home tonight, Schmoopie? Won't you, Schmoopie? Oh, and don't forget the soup this time.

27 I can see the value in getting any remaining dirty laundry out there to head off more scandal coverage. But for Sanford to say that Chapur is his soulmate, but he's trying to fall back in love with his wife is just too tone deaf (even if true). His judgment seems to be gone - time to hit him with the tranquilizer dart and get him out of there.

28

"His career is not a concern of mine."  --Jenny Sanford

I have sympathy for the gov, cuz I'm pussy-whipped too.  For those who don't, look at the above quote.  I've read repeatedly in psych books that in many apparently clear situations of abuse or infidelity--after looking closer at the facts--one begins to wonder who the real abuser is.  That quote above isn't conclusive, but it's a major signpost.  Another one?  Who got the emails to the paper?  Loyal, understanding, supportive, caring wife?  Also, I recall having read she already knew about it and that, to paraphase, I think, it had kinda' been over since last year.  Anyway.  She seems callous, selfish, and lacking in empathy.  "His career is not a concern of mine."  Major red flag.

And guys in love or in need of a bit of real emotional support begin to do anything to get it.  Think wife was supportive?  Not a chance.  Here's Ace's take on the smitten man:

[I]t's a silly song about an evil genius, but it really sums up, comically, the absurdity of male crushes. Guys really think like this when they're smitten, alas. If we had a Doomsday Squad with which to "ignite the atmosphere," we totally would brag about it to impress a girl.

I'm not saying what Sanford did is right, and I would never do such a thing.  I'm just saying the situation doesn't sound quite as simple as it may seem.  The guy's obviously hurting inside.  He's trying to fill a void in his soul.  He needs someone on his side.  I wonder if his wife fit that bill.  She sounds a little me-first. 

29 Think about what your boys will think about you when they can read all the shit written about you, get the fc'k outta here, stfu and hit the beach with Maria, we're tired of your sissy shit!!!

30

He said, 'I never had sex with that woman those women'.  Ugh.

So many unneeded details. I think maybe he should give up being governor so he can devote all of his time to writing icky romance novels. 

31 Where's keyboard cat when you need him...

32

YouTube - Chris Isaak-Wicked Game

maybe we should dedicate this to him

33 Hasn't his family suffered enough? Mr. Sanford, just shut the f#ck up!

34 The guy's obviously hurting inside.  He's trying to fill a void in his soul.  He needs someone on his side.  I wonder if his wife fit that bill.  She sounds a little me-first. 

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 30, 2009 04:27 PM (cHWBY)

I don't see a sarc tag, so taking your post at face value.  Since he's the one who's been screwing around, I think maybe she's the one who needs someone on her side.  And we know ol' Mark isn't fitting that bill.  Her husband, and the father of her children, has caused her to be in the middle of a very public humiliation and you call her "me-first?"  Yeesh!

35

You know what? I forgive him allready.

I like this dude.

He's a politician, probably a lawyer, and a lying cheating bastard... but now I'm just being redundant. But I may actually not want to throw his ass into a volcano before declaring a state of anarco-syndicalism and going all Lord of the Flies on your piggy asses.

Normally I'm not a fan of adultery (because I realize it might happen to me so we need to discourage it in general) and this business is really getting very tiresome already and testing my patience with all these douchnozzles who can't keep their penii in their pants for 5 minutes. And I'm also jealous.

But this guy is OK. He needs to run again so we can re-elect him.

36 Pineapple-Head? For a second I thought maybe he was the real father of Kate Gosselin's kids.

37 He said, 'I never had sex with that woman those anybody I wasn't 100% sure was a woman'. 

38 CB, re-read the whole post.

39

Exhibit G (for ghey) in the argument that the GOP is the most hapless bunch of weak-kneed castrati in the history of politics. You know you're in trouble when a woman--Sarah Palin--has more balls than all of the men in the party combined.

I can't watch this shit anymore. It's too embarassing. I'd rather watch Roger DeBris primp for the Chroeographers' Ball. It's only slightly less ghey than watching Romeo Sanford flagellate himself with his own emails.

40 What a day for the GOP.  Sanford runs his mouth, Franken gets intot he Senate and now Collins repeats, verbatim, Obama's fucking lie talking point about health care being "deficit neutral" - but of course leaving out the "within 10 years" qualifier which allows massive deficits now with a promise of savings later to "make up" for the deficits.

Fuckign fraudulent who're as the irish would say.
PHONING SNOWE: President Obama placed a phone call to Maine Sen. Olympia Snowe today, a key Republican voice in the health care debate, according to a release from the senator's office:"Today, President Obama reiterated to me that reforming the nation’s health care system is his highest priority, and that he continues to be open to suggestions and ideas as the Finance Committee crafts this vital legislation. As health reform would affect all Americans, I appreciate his understanding of the critical importance of producing a bipartisan bill with the broadest possible support, and his willingness to work together to achieve this watershed endeavor. The President repeated his goal of passing legislation in the full Senate prior to the August break that would be deficit-neutral while providing universal coverage -- and I reaffirmed to the President my commitment to ensuring the Finance Committee creates the best possible package to guarantee health security for all Americans." (5:02 p.m.)

41 I'm speechless.  I wish Mark Sanford was too.

42

I mean come on. Look at congress!

Eh? Eh?

He's not so bad, is he?

So can we keep him? Please?

43

This reminds me of an idiot I used to work with.  Nice enough guy, but a total idiot.  First of all, he was idiot enough not to just have an affair, but to have it with his best friends wife who I also worked with.  Then when the news broke we tried to tutor him in the Three D's of getting caught red-handed:  Deny, Deny, Deny!   Don't matter how much evidence is stacked against you, at least SHOW that you feel guilty by having the guts to lie shamelessly and repeatedly about it.   People expect that, and they can even respect that.

Bill Clinton knew that, and look how that worked out for him. 

But nooooo, idiot boy had to go sing like a bird - some kind of nonsense about how he thought confession was good for his soul.   Oh?  You think tellin' your good buddy how you nailed his wife on his own kitchen table was good for anything but making him want to stalk you with a hunting rifle for the rest of his life?

Idiot.  And now I see Sanford going down that same Moron's Highway.   I could forgive him for having an affair, most people would.  I can NEVER forgive him for the stupid shit he's pulling now, though!

44 Sandford dry up and blow away you goof.

45 rdbrewer, it's one thing to have an affair.  If that was it, I think most of us would still have a meh attitude towards it.

It's entirely another thing to fly to another continent on the taxpayer's dime, disappear for a week and lie to your staff when you're the chief executive, and constantly beg for attention over how in love you are.  If the marriage is bad, get a divorce, that really shouldn't affect your political future or even impede your job performance.

But if you need the affair and are going to completely disregard your duties to pursue it, than, no.  Resign and let someone do the job.

46 She sounds a little me-first.

Maybe she's as pissed off at his narcissistic emotional exhibitionism as most of us are.  After all, she had to be a partner in his political career, and then his stupid handling of the jaunt to SA.

47 I find him more sympathetic than his wife...for some reason, she sets off my shrill sensors.

48

You people just don't understand....I'm a sssexual being.

Yes we did the reverse cowgirl and I don't care who knows!  God that feels so good to get that out there for everyone to see. 

I feel so...liberated!

49

So, Mark, why don't you just embarrass all your children and teh entire State of SC with your fucking adolescent fucking puppy love.

By the way, dumb shit, Jenny has the money.  WTF are you going to do, live on the Pampas?

What a fucking douche bag.

Kemp

50 Like I said earlier, she really put it on his ass, but he's too stupid to see what people are doing to him, leave the Country Mark and have fun with your pinata.

51 I can forgive him, because I can guess what the "session con caliente chica" was like. I'll bet she was a little mattress-monkey, slathered in coconut oil that glistened in the antipodal moon, leering with perfect white choppers at his half-staff happiness. She probably clucked at him, leered at him, licked her lips and promised soixante-neuf. She probably ground his Blackberry into chunks of glittering worthlessness under Blahnik heels.

He didn't leave his balls in Patagonia. He left his soul there.

Brother, you are forgiven. Keep babbling, because I understand your crazy lust-fucked language.

52

Methos, CB, another red flag?  The Traveling Sympathy and Martyrdom Tour.  Both should have withheld comment or exercised discretion.  But, in her case, I smells me noble martyrdom.  Look at her comments at the link I provided.  Imagine the vacuum of emotional intimacy in the household.  He's a romantic; she's a...?

 

53 To: rdbrewer - you said;
I have sympathy for the gov, cuz I'm pussy-whipped too.

Is that your wife or mistress?

You also used the quote that Jenny Sanford gave that said his career was not a concern of mine.  I believe the quote is taken out of context.  Her family is falling apart in front of her eyes.  I am not sure if my husbands career would be my concern, either.  My family would be my concern.

I have a feeling what we are seeing now is something she has been seeing for the last few months.  I can understand her bitterness... what with his talk of "soul mates" and all that crap.  Apparently, he asked her permission to see his mistress.  Is she a cold shrew for telling him no?

My understanding is his wife is the one who made him into the politician he is - much like Elizabeth Edwards.  She has chosen to take a different path as Mrs. Edwards took and has decided not put on a front that they are this happy family and he is this great family man. 

I actually admire Mrs. Sanford for not "standing by her man" like other politicians wives.  I think Elizabeth Edwards is as much a fraud as her husband and she hasn't gotten any sympathy out of me.  Jenny Sanford, however, I do feel for.
tink

54

<i> She sounds a little me-first</i>

 

Me-first? How many children do you have rdbrewer? If she's half the woman my mother was when I was growing up, I seriously doubt she has any time to be me-first! And it was just me and my brother.

55 51, railwriter at June 30, 2009 04:41 PM (XcsD4)

I'll bet a dollar to a doughnut that you read books with fabio on the cover with the wind whipping his hair!

56

51 I can forgive him, because I can guess what the "session con caliente chica" was like. I'll bet she was a little mattress-monkey, slathered in coconut oil that glistened in the antipodal moon, leering with perfect white choppers at his half-staff happiness. She probably clucked at him, leered at him, licked her lips and promised soixante-neuf. She probably ground his Blackberry into chunks of glittering worthlessness under Blahnik heels.

Hey, he WASN'T in Costa Rica! But, sounds like you've been!

I read about it!

Kemp

57 This fucker should do the right thing and resign, leave the country and never speak in public again.

58 Cordell? Cordell?  Cordell?!

59 mossberg, do not check your reading comprehension at the door.  You'll need it to get through a whole post without cherry picking.  Thanks for playing.

60 I was almost going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one, but now he's starting to sound like a pussy whipped douche nozzle. Put a muzzle on him and get him the hell out.

61 Prickle-Puss != Pineapple-Head

Just sayin'.

62 I'm seeing a sissy that will off himself soon instead of moving to Argentina and saving his life!

63

First rule of public holes:

SHUT.  UP.

64 Apparently there were others but he didn't cross the line with them.  You know this is actually good, get all the negative stuff out now, so no one can black mail him like the other guy.  It sort of shows republicans as real people with real foibles.  Probably if he would have siad to the wife "I'm not happy, I want to end the marriage, she may have threatened to demolish his career, so, he probably decided to have this all come out on his terms.  Maybe this is why she is so so angry.  Not cause he fooled around but because he didn't allow her the control. 

65 He's a romantic; she's a...?

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 30, 2009 04:42 PM (cHWBY)

He's a husband, she's a wife.  That's kind of the bottom line here, man.  If he wanted to get himself some strange (or, as you put it, "emotional intimacy"), he should have gotten a divorce and gone out to frolick.  And, of course, shut his fucking piehole about it instead of embarrassing his innocent children for weeks on end.

66

This fucker should do the right thing and resign

Why?

67 Brad Thor is on with Glenn Beck....ooo what a hottie!!!

68 Not to go off topic but wasn't Pineapple Head the nickname for Manuel Noriega?

69

mossberg, do not check your reading comprehension at the door.  You'll need it to get through a whole post without cherry picking.  Thanks for playing.

 

Yeah, sorry I missed the part where she was neglecting her children, disappearing for a couple of days, etc. Please excuse my poor reading comprehension, as I now have a completely different view of Mark Sanford. He was very heroic putting up with that bitch!

70 "66

This fucker should do the right thing and resign

Why?

Posted by: Entropy at June 30, 2009 04:48 PM (cok/k)"

He should not resign.  Isn't he following the democrat model here?  That means that he should become even more popular and go on to bigger and better things.  Resigning is the last thing any democrat would do.

71 Hmmmm.

Jesus.  Someone stick a foot in this guy's pie-hole.

72 I find him more sympathetic than his wife...for some reason, she sets off my shrill sensors.

Posted by: palin steele

That's because she's a real woman and not the inflatable you are used to.

73 68.  Funeral Guy

I think it was Pineapple Face.

74 He should not resign.  Isn't he following the democrat model here?

Also the Guliani model.

75

I will see the sec of commerce this weekend.  My bet, this asshole is going to be TOTALY ostracized in the state.  No fucking body is going to want to be seen with him.

Like at West Point.  When you lie and are caught, no one speaks to you until you leave or graduate.

He is worse than dead, he is a dead man walking.

Southerns don't put up with this shit, and SC is the capital of Southern!

Move to Argentina, dickhead.

Kemp

76 I really don't think public confession is good for the soul..his political future seems pretty dim but if he wants to remain in office and govern effectively for the remainder of his term, he should just be quiet, stop talking to the press and concentrate on governing and figure out if he even wants to be married anymore.

77

She seems callous, selfish, and lacking in empathy. "His career is not a concern of mine." Major red flag.

Dude, tell me this is facetious. An asshole breaks his marriage vows and then publicly humiliates his wife and 4 young children by waxing rhapsodic about his adulturous paramour to anyone with a microphone or reporter's notebook and your concern is that she's not being sufficiently empathetic? Did you fall on your head? Do you have a fever above 104.5 degrees?

78 He should just switch parties.

79 Here in LA we have another fine specimen as mayor.  The ho he busted up his family for kicked him to the curb, but now he's got another one. 

80

 

Say what you will about French politicians, they screw their mistresses without making us watch.

81

No, mossberg, imbecile, you missed the fact that I addressed your emotional flatulence before the fact in the very post you quoted from.  Don't give me "I choose to see this and not that."  Look objectively.  Do you think I condoned his behavior?  Do you think I'd do the same?  Do you think I was raising a point about red flags or stating a certainty about the woman?  Do we need to escort you back to first grade so you can learn to "sound it out" all over again when looking at words?

CB, ditto.

82  Tiredwench, prepare to have your reading comprehension skills questioned.

83

he should have gotten a divorce and gone out to frolick.  And, of course, shut his fucking piehole about it instead of embarrassing his innocent children for weeks on end.

Yes yes. No doubt.

Seriously, I'm generally against this sort of thing. You don't see me defending Ensign or whoever it was 5 minutes ago, that guy was a bastard. But this guy doesn't strike me as so bad.

But seriously - who's perfect?

Look at congress.

You're asking for the guy to resign because of an affair and some buffoonery. We've got guy stealing money, guys selling out their country to foreign powers, guys trying to destroy society as we know it and reshape it into some totalitarian marxist utopia....

We accomodate all these despicable monsters in positions of power. Plenty of them engauged in bacchanalian sexual escapades of questionable legality that make this seem as pure as snow.

But this guy, oh noes, he's gotta go. Can't have him falling in love with someone other then his wife and then being stupid about it. That's way worse then if he'd just commited treason or something.

84 There is NO WAY that marriage can be put together again, NO WAY, they will have no trust and fight even more than they did, beach is the best place for him now and invisibility, what a dumbass!

85 80

 

Say what you will about French politicians, they screw their mistresses without making us watch.

Assholes!  I'd like to watch teh new first lady!

Kemp

86 OT, but interesting for its disrespect to the US, NY democrats sit through the pledge of allegiance to protest Republican something-or-other.

87 75

"I will see the sec of commerce this weekend.  My bet, this asshole is going to be TOTALY ostracized in the state.  No fucking body is going to want to be seen with him.

Like at West Point.  When you lie and are caught, no one speaks to you until you leave or graduate.

He is worse than dead, he is a dead man walking.

Southerns don't put up with this shit, and SC is the capital of Southern!

Move to Argentina, dickhead.

Kemp

Posted by: kempermanx at June 30, 2009 04:53 PM (2+9Yx)"

Was he born in the south?  The wife is from Illinois and heard she was an heiress but is he a southern boy?

88

CB, ditto.

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 30, 2009 04:55 PM (cHWBY)

Huh?  I read your whole post, Einstein.  I guess I just don't have any reason to rationalize someone else's bad behavior.  I'm not saying Jenny is a paragon of anything.  I'm saying that he was a married man and he not only stepped out on his wife & family, he stepped out on his responsibilities as governor of a state.  And now he appears to be beating the bushes for opportunities to further embarrass himself and twist the knife on his wife.

But, as I said, I don't have any personal reasons for trying to rationalize his behavior.  I realize that maybe some people do . . .

89 Ooops, sorry. I think it was Pineapple Face.

90 I starting to wonder if Sanford is suffering a series of small strokes.

91 62 I'm seeing a sissy that will off himself soon instead of moving to Argentina and saving his life!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 30, 2009 04:46 PM (Nj9Dm)

I dont think he's suicidal, but the character point is well taken - Sanford is melting before the eyes of an engaged US public.  Couldn't be any worse for the GOP.

10 bucks says Bret Baier and co. call the honduras thing a coup and toe the Obama line.

and for your viewing pleasure, he's a leftist douche at new republic totally pooning El Douche for being wholly misleading and indeed dishonest in his use of rhetoric.  Who were the fools sayign that all along again?

His worst moment came when he hid behind Martin Luther King, Jr.: "What we can do is bear witness and say to the world that the incredible demonstrations that we've seen is a testimony to--I think what Dr. King called the arc of the moral universe. It's long but it bends towards justice." The president was counseling patience, and it always looks so unwise, so impetuous, to be against patience. But King was not patient with injustice. And when it came to his own campaign, to his own hunger, Obama did not cite King on the long arc of justice. He cited King on the fierce urgency of now.

92 "84 There is NO WAY that marriage can be put together again, NO WAY, they will have no trust and fight even more than they did, beach is the best place for him now and invisibility, what a dumbass!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 30, 2009 04:57 PM (Nj9Dm)"

But aren't you getting the impression that he wanted to get out from under her thumb, she is from Chicago you know and he in essesence defied her motherly order not to go to Argentina.  Probably by doing so he gave himself freedom.   Just my observations and opinion though.  wouldn't worry about the kids, they have a way of seeing through the parental BS.

93 What an embarrassing goofball. Take your pathetic little love life and hide it behind closed doors where it belongs.

Go sell used cars or give hand jobs at the gym in Argentina or whatever it is you are qualified for after serving in congress.

Get out of my party and take a few other RINOs with your stupid ass as you leave.

94 Thanks Goddessoftheclassroom. Once a teacher always a teacher.

95 rdbrewer
Do we need to escort you back to first grade so you can learn to "sound it out" all over again when looking at words?

CB, ditto.

what about me?  I made fun of your stupid comment to. How come you aren't sending me back to first grade?  I wanna go. It's not fair that mossberg and CB get to go and I don't.

tink

96

CB, continue reading what you want to read.  For heaven's sake, never mind my actual meaning.  Party on.   

 

97 Never go full retard, tinkerbell.

98

You know there is nothing worse than condescending dickhead liberal columnist like Roger Simon, who  posted a glutting column about Sanford.

Pile on assholes.

Hey, asshole, where were you when Bill Clinton was getting his dick sucked by a 20 year old intern, IN THE WHITE HOUSE?

Kemp

 

 

 

99

Part of this boob's brain was shot out his manhood and left in Argentina.  Someone from the GOP goon squad needs to make this awful story, and this insidious idiot go away.

100 Oh interesting.  The Iraq situation brings a new role for Joe.  He is going to be traveling more extensively trying to fix theverything there.  Fox news said it better but the essence is "like hillary, now I'm going to get Joe out of my hair"

101 Just so we're clear, are you the two people in the country who thought Sanford was an up and coming presidential prospect?

102 If we had a goon squad, or a re-education gulag, do you really think Olympia and Arlen would have lasted all these years?

103 If Sanford was smart he wouldn't resign; he'd just switch parties.  The media would shut up about it, Steele wouldn't say jack cause he never does, Soros could funnel his wife enough money to keep quiet and funnel him enough money to either retire to Argentina or RUN FOR HIGHER OFFICE!!!!

104 Really?  Nothing self-serving about it?

_{"Check your email.  I sent you an email.  Steve's in Alaska.  I sent you my cell number.  Call me."}  

105

Get out of my party and take a few other RINOs with your stupid ass as you leave.

SERIOUSLY. Wasn't this guy a conservative hero before now?

Being in an extramarital affair makes you a republican-in-name-only regardless of your politics? Is this party a political party or a church organization?

We can't get politicians to be conservative for anything. We vote for them, support them... they run off and shove amnesty down our throats. So we kick their asses out and they go on MSNBC and slam their replacements and make even more money. Or switch parties.

If absolving them of any standard of moral decency is the price we pay for having them articulate conservative principles so be it. I find that much more palatable in congress then a bunch of profoundly decent communists.

God knows nobody with half a brain cell looks to government for moral leadership anyway.

Why is this 1 strike and he's out?

106 Just so we're clear, are you the two people in the country who thought Sanford was an up and coming presidential prospect?

I had heard only good things about him until this ... this ... clusterfuck of an assignation.

107 Seriously, I'm generally against this sort of thing. You don't see me defending Ensign or whoever it was 5 minutes ago, that guy was a bastard. But this guy doesn't strike me as so bad.

Actually I'm inclined to give Ensign a pass. He had been separated from his wife for quite a while when he had the relationship. Technically it was an 'affair' but for most couples a separation means the suspension of marital vows so it wasn't the betrayal that other scandals have been. His dumbassery was mainly having an affair with a staffer who was married and putting himself in a position to be blackmailed. Compared to Sanford this seems like a pretty minor scandal.

108 28
"His career is not a concern of mine." --Jenny Sanford

rdb -

I don't care if she's a saint or a bitch, it really doesn't matter. Obviously it takes two to have a successful marriage and it's highly unlikely that Mrs. Sanford was a perfect wife/partner/friend. If she was a lousy wife he should have divorced her. How hard is it for a guy who supposedly is into family values to focus on his head and heart before getting his johnson serviced?

With regards to your post, I'd caution you to take what you've read about the circumstances with a grain of salt. I'm sure there's lots of spin and just plain misinformation out there. For instance, I read that it was the mistress' other boyfriend who discovered their love notes and forwarded them to the newspaper. I've also read that the wife's discovery was much more recent, not the 5 mos or more that has been reported elsewhere.

Really at the end of the day the guy's problem is that he is not able to keep his priorities straight. They should, at minimum, be his job as governor and his role as father. It looks like he played fast and loose with the state's resources in order to be with this woman, so he needs to go.

109

Part of this boob's brain was shot out his manhood and left in Argentina.  Someone from the GOP goon squad needs to make this awful story, and this insidious idiot go away.

Posted by: Sparky at June 30, 2009 05:07 PM (J1f2W)

Yeah you right!

110

#87

Was he born in the south?  The wife is from Illinois and heard she was an heiress but is he a southern boy?

Yes, but it is really not about where she is from, it is about CLASS.

She has it, he doesn't. 

Southerns recognize class, even in Yankees and Mid Westerns.  A person of Class from Chicago is more welcome than white trash from Charleston.

What that means is you better not mention the valu rite thing down South, unless you know you are talking to a fellow moron.

Kemp

111 It is only a scandal if you allow it to be a scandal.  The dems never allow it to be a scandal. 

112
Sanford doesn't give a shit and I don't blame him.

He's giving a big Fuck-You to the rules of politics and that, in my opinion, is good. His marriage is over and you're all naive if you think Sanford's affair blindsided his wife; she knew about it long before we did.

113 I've never subscribed to the theory that marital fidelity is critical to a politician's ability to govern. I do think if they are going to wrap themselves up in the family values banner it is incumbent upon them not to be found wanting in that area, if only to protect the conservative agenda. However, I've seen 14 year old girls with their first crush less overwrought then this train wreck.

Whether Mrs. Sanford was a cold fish, and that is what motivated Gov Sanford, is open to conjecture. I'd be inclined to say he probably wasn't getting something out of his marriage that he needed since he doesn't give off that serial cheater vibe. But, really, outside of the salacious gossip angle it's no business of anyone else.

What is important is that he has provided fodder to further demean fiscal conservatisim and seems incapable of stopping this compulsive sharing of details.

114 92. ??????

"Just my observations and opinion though.  wouldn't worry about the kids, they have a way of seeing through the parental BS."

I worry very much about the kids.  I know what my estranged husband's behavior did to our two sons.  A betrayal of the mother is seen as a betrayal of them; the other woman is chosen over their family.

OF COURSE Jenny Sanford said he couldn't go to Argentina.  What woman in her right mind would say okay?  Like my EH, Mark Sanford was more interested in his fantasy than his family, and he was NOT committed to restoring his marriage despite the chance he was given to do so.

115 Just when B-Ho starts to slip in the polls for being a limp-wristed sissy-boy, another couple of Republican Albatrosses come and hang themselves around our necks for 2010.

As Kasey says, " Fucking ponderous, Man."

116

CB, half-wit, I'm not married anymore, and I would never cheat anyway.  I've said as much.  Don't try to think.  Read.

You know, everyone in the world has intuition.  But it's a fact that only 15% should ever listen to it.  Only 6% should ever rely upon it.  (Meyers-Briggs.)  You're one of the many.

117

never mix business with pleasure.  or never kiss your mistress/hooker on the mouth.

118

Doooooon't cry for me Argentiiiiiiiina!

I'm stil in South Caroliiiiiiiiina!

119 brew, CB, et al, I love your posts and you are great morons give it up, there are more important things to be angry about instead of at each other cease and desist morons, that's an order!

120
Al Franken is a senator and we're worried about Gov Sanford not following the Script of Disgraced Republicans^®?

Our heads are in our asses.

121

#112

You right about that, and she probably had given it up in years, BUT, he has FOUR sons.

Would you give up your sons for some pussy?

What a fucking arrogant idiot.

Kemp

122 rdbrewer...you're such a pathetic beta male. you should become a eunuch.

123

What that means is you better not mention the valu rite thing down South, unless you know you are talking to a fellow moron.

Here in the South Boone's Farm is the way to go.

Grim

 

124

Actually I'm inclined to give Ensign a pass. He had been separated from his wife for quite a while when he had the relationship. Technically it was an 'affair' but for most couples a separation means the suspension of marital vows so it wasn't the betrayal that other scandals have been. His dumbassery was mainly having an affair with a staffer who was married and putting himself in a position to be blackmailed. Compared to Sanford this seems like a pretty minor scandal

As I understand it, the husband ALSO worked for Ensign. That's F'd up. He banged his subordinates wife (who, coincidentally, was also his subordinate). And may have abused his power to cover it up and/or threatened their livelyhood.

Engisn cheated on 2 people and broke 2 sets of marital vows. Sanford only screwed up one. One that appears to have been screwed already anyway, same as Ensigns was.

Apparently at the time of his trip to Argentina he and his wife hadn't been living together for a few weeks.

125

I made a mistake . . . or mayhap you could call it fate, or even destiny.  From across a dimly-lit room, I saw her - the beautiful dark-eyed beauty, with rosy red ruby lips and curvy curved hips, and I was smitten, stricken and afflicted. It was as if Cupid had shot me straight through the heart with his little arrow of love. I could not help myself. So enraptured was I, so drawn to her satiny skin and her silky hair and her pineappley sweetness. . . 

I apologize for any wrongdoing on my part, or any hurt I have caused, but I hope you can see that I am a victim. A victim of love. And, I intend to remain the governor for the rest of my term.  Thank you for your support.  

126 Y-not, I agree, and I never said anything was justified, despite what a couple of the unconsciously reading impared here have implied.

127

It sounds like he never got laid like that .........ever in 20 yrs? of marriage If it's all this love shit - then divorce your wife and get on with your life ....all ready. I think he is having a batshit mental meltdown. Hope he isn't the next death? Is there a cardiologist from obamascare following him around?

128 Hey, I'm just sayin' that, while there's a lot of good-natured flirting and innuendo that goes on in the overnight threads, that was the first (and last) time I ever saw some ho-bag do the dirty hustle on AoS.  And only one person was fallin' for it . . . do the math, sparky.

129 123

What that means is you better not mention the valu rite thing down South, unless you know you are talking to a fellow moron.

Here in the South Boone's Farm is the way to go.

Grim

I know that, or Pabst.

It's the valu rite thing, it is sort of shady and smells of Yankee discount booze stores.

Kemp

130 Grunt, you're right. 

131

How hard is it for a guy who supposedly is into family values to focus on his head and heart before getting his johnson serviced?

That's half the thing though. Apparently he had 'focused on his heart'. He didn't just run off and toss his marriage for some lousy few minutes of physical gratification, but apparently fell in love with her.

132
If Obama sends our troops to Honduras to help re-install Zelaya, are we still going to discuss how much of a cad Sanford is?

133 Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 30, 2009 05:16 PM (Nj9Dm)

Sir, yes, sir!  Won't happen again, sir!

134 Someone from the GOP goon squad needs to make this awful story, and this insidious idiot go away.

Posted by: Sparky at June 30, 2009 05:07 PM (J1f2W)

Nah, they're too busy trying to smear Gov. Palin.

135

saw some ho-bag do the dirty hustle on AoS. 

I don't even know what that means.

136 Ace, you had me at "Pineapple Face."

137

#135

Me either, I guess we missed that post.

Kemp

138 Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at June 30, 2009 05:15 PM (cojWg)
You don't know what goes on in the privacy of someone's own home.   However, sometimes tis better to end a marriage than to inflict any more parental harm on the children. Even when the parents think they are being discrete, the kids, even little ones, know, they know.  I mean if dad has to ask mom if it is okay to go see his  GF then the kids already are probably hearing fights.  Eventually you can repair your relationship with kids who love you.  And, if you were the innocent victim then  that may be different from making someone stay in a bad marriage for the sake of their political career which is what might have been happening.

139 Would you give up your sons for some pussy?

Honestly?

It would depend on the sons.

And the pussy.

140 130, rdbrewer at June 30, 2009 05:20 PM (cHWBY)

Only sometimes my friend, now y'all stop it before I get my belt!!!

141 Grunt, just one more:  CB, I see you're so wedded to your personal rendition of "fact" that a fruitful conversation with you is completely ruled out.  Note, I've had this very same argument about subjective perception filters versus objective apprehension of reality--which exists independently of our ability to  perceive it--at least 150 frickin times on the net since 1996.  I don't care to do it again.  Rest assured, there are many, many people just like you.  I'm sure that's a comfort.

142

What bugs me about all this is that a man as powerful as governor couldn't go about this the right way and convince his wife to have a three-way instead of screwing around behind her back.

If a freaking governor can't pull it off, what hope is there for the rest of us?

143 No one says the guy is giving up his sons.   Maybe the guy was stuck in a mess of a marriage tied to his career and he decided to listen to his conservative values and he wanted out.  Maybe she wouldn't let him out so he took matters into his own hands.  Maybe he doesn't want to be a huypocrit anymore.  JMHO.

144

Tiredwench, prepare to have your reading comprehension skills questioned.

Eh, wouldn't be the first time. 

145 Hah the Argentina Latina is going to use him up just like she did to the last guy. GOP political class really doesn't understand the latina women, steer clear you will get burned. Hey but Argentina Latina will get her green card.

146 If Obama sends our troops to Honduras to help re-install Zelaya, are we still going to discuss how much of a cad Sanford is?

Nah, I think then we bet the over under on how many officers resign in protest.

147 Nice ot have an exciting conservative for once.

148 Maybe the guy was stuck in a mess of a marriage tied to his career and he decided to listen to his conservative values and he wanted out. Maybe she wouldn't let him out so he took matters into his own hands.

If he'd taken matters into his own hands he wouldn't be in this predicament. lol

Seriously, though, I think the admission of multiple infidelities belies the notion of a guy trapped in a marriage. In any event, he could have separated from her even if she wouldn't "give him" a divorce.

149 She can't be Gov. Sanford's soul mate because, as has become very clear over the last few days, he doesn't have a soul.

What would lead a man to make statements like this except absolute hatred for his wife and  kids?  He's already embarrassed them publicly, why is he trying to destroy them emotionally?

150 lions, good point.  He just needed the input of a wise latina. 

151 Seriously, though, I think the admission of multiple infidelities belies the notion of a guy trapped in a marriage. In any event, he could have separated from her even if she wouldn't "give him" a divorce.

Posted by: Y-not at June 30, 2009 05:31 PM (sey23)

And let's not forget who's got the fat family bucks and who's the former real estate agent, eh?

152 It's all very simple really. Believe me I know.  It's all about sex.  Nothing more.  Marriages with great sex last and are bulletproof (short of some inherent sickness).  Marriages without become adulterous or turn into an eternal friendship.  Most are the latter but if either spouse still has a high sex drive adultery moves to the fore.  One thing is for certain, there wasn't good sex going on and when the Gov stumbled on to the chance he fell for it like most weak men do or will.  His marriage will never work because if the sex was non-existent or very sporadic before it will certainly cease to exist now.  I can assure you that regardless of what the wife may want, after having new, fresh and hot sex the Gov will NEVER want sex with his wife again.  So at this point they might as well divorce.  Best for everyone. 

153

I liked what Ann Coulter said the other day.  These are guys who never even kissed a girl in high school and suddenly they're Mick Jagger.

154 Let's not get started about what goes on after dark.

155 That's because she's a real woman and not the inflatable you are used to. Posted by: huerfano

..and huerfano for teh win.

156 I think that by leaving the family he had seperated from her.   Probably te going to Argentina was the dare.  Since Jenny C was the tipster for Ace always thought it was the wife then again it could have been the GF pretending to be the wife

157 that hondo douchebag is swimming around Obama's government buildings and OAS meetings right now.

the UN voted unanimously to put him back into power immediately.

where was the UN vote on Iran?

unreal.

158 BREAKING NEWS...

The South Carolina National Guard, at the direction of the South Carolina Supreme Court and with the unanimous support of the South Carolina Legislature has just arrested Gov Mark Sanford (R) and placed him on a S.C. Air National Guard jet headed for San Francisco, where he is expected seek asylum.

159 This is 2009 on Earth:

DEVASTATED Michael Jackson fanatics have committed suicide because of the superstar's death, according to the singer's biggest online fan club.

Up to 12 heartbroken followers of the star have taken their lives - including one Brit — said the MJJcommunity website.

The startling claim came as it was revealed a Jackson lookalike in Russia cut his wrists after the star's death was announced.

Gary Taylor, who runs MJJcommunity.com, said: "I know there has been an increase, I now believe the figure is 12. I believe there may have been one Briton who has taken their life.

"It is a serious situation that these people are going through but Michael Jackson would never want this. He would want them to live."

Russian fan Pável Talaláyev was found bleeding heavily at his home in Moscow just hours after it was announced that Jackson had died.

But an ambulance crew found him in time on Friday and managed to save his life.

One of the ambulance men said: "He was in a terrible state and kept on saying: 'It's all the same to me. I'm going to kill myself. It's the worst tragedy of my life and I don't want to live any more. I don't know why you saved my life, I want to be with him'."

Pável — Russia's most famous Jacko lookalike — modelled himself on the star from the age of nine.

160 157, Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter

Easy, they want S. America to stay borderline communist for the big day when odumbass takes us there!!

161 152.  Mickey

What a set of priorities. 

162

But, really, outside of the salacious gossip angle it's no business of anyone else.

Well, why not? It's worth conjecturing, if only to counterweight the reverse conjecture:

he was NOT committed to restoring his marriage despite the chance he was given to do so.

How the hell does anyone know that? We don't.

163 Listen; if Barney Frank can run a prostitution ring out of his basement, Bill Clinton can play hid the cigar in the Oval office and Ted, can I have another drink, Kennedy drown a young woman and run from the scene, then how can this guy be any worse.

How do you spell politician? C-R-O-O-K

164 If you are going out on a limb, you just might think that since he disappeared into Argentina with the GF that maybe, just maybe, he was sending a message to the wifey and the wifey got the message and is trying to destroy the political career she created.  IMHO.   Starting to sound like a soap opera or reality show.  The next thing that will come out is that she was having an affair or two herself.  Then it will really fit the reality show model.  Then I will jsut laugh, what crap.

165 156 I think that by leaving the family he had seperated from her. Probably te going to Argentina was the dare. Since Jenny C was the tipster for Ace always thought it was the wife then again it could have been the GF pretending to be the wife

If you're referencing my post, I meant he could have obtained a separation when he realized that his marriage was not fulfilling and then go sow his wild oats. But it sounds as though he fooled around (with multiple women, not just his "soul mate") but wanted to maintain the appearance of being in a happy marriage.

As for the tipster, although I wouldn't deny a scorned wife the right to put the screws to her husband in the papers, I believe that it's thought that Sanford's girl friend's boy friend (now an ex-bf) is the one who tipped the paper. That scenario makes more sense. If the paper had a tip from the governor's wife, they would have run with the story... but by having a tip from some guy they didn't know anything about (from another country no less) they sat on it for 5 or 6 mos.

166 DEVASTATED Michael Jackson fanatics have committed suicide because of the superstar's death, according to the singer's biggest online fan club.
Up to 12 heartbroken followers of the star have taken their lives - including one Brit — said the MJJcommunity website.

The startling claim came as it was revealed a Jackson lookalike in Russia cut his wrists after the star's death was announced.

Trying to see the downside here. Somebody help me out, here.

167 He should lay off the references to King David and find a more apt comparison.

Phil Spector comes to mind.

168 13 Who else has to die to get this idiot off the front page.

Posted by: SlaveDog at June 30, 2009 04:17 PM (H6Jyg)

 

 

 

I'M ON IT

169

But this guy, oh noes, he's gotta go. Can't have him falling in love with someone other then his wife and then being stupid about it. That's way worse then if he'd just commited treason or something.

Posted by: Entropy at June 30, 2009 04:57 PM (cok/k)

Ent, I don't care if he resigns or not. He's in South Carolina, I'm in Texas. Our governor is too dumb to cheat with a hot South American chick. He'd get lost in the airport. And Sanford has no shot at a national gig, now. But for crying out loud, I wish he would STFU.

170 I'd like to sing a little song I wrote about my dear, dear, lovely, loving soulmate.

And it goes something like this:

A long, long time ago...
I can still remember
How your pussy used to make me smile.
And I knew if I had my chance
That I could get in another girl's pants
And, maybe, Mr Happy would be happy for a while.

But Jenny Sanford made me shiver
If I left her, she would stab my liver.
Bad news - no Argentina;
No more fun for my weinah.

I can't remember if I cried
When dildoed Maria made me her bride,
But something touched me deep inside
The day my marriage died.

So bye-bye, to Jenny's sweet pooter pie.
Drove my weinah to Argentina,
Left my state high and dry.
And them good old boys were lookin for me low and high
Singin, "we can't get hold of this guy.
"we can't get hold of this guy."

Do you want to know just how we made love,
With me below and Maria above,
Not like the Bible tells you so?
Do you believe I could put my legs,
Behind my ears and Maria'd throw eggs,
At my pinkish, puckered, pulsing asshole?

Well, I know that you want to hear what we did
With a turtle, a table, and a billygoat's kid.
We both used lots of lube.
Man, I dig Maria's three boobs.

I was a lonely middle-aged horny gov
With a pinkish hard-on that I wanted to shove,
In the ear of a dear, dear friend I love
The day my marriage died.

I started singin,
Bye-bye, Jenny's sweet pooter pie.
Drove my weinah to Argentina,
Left my state high and dry.
And them good old boys were lookin for me low and high
Singin, "we can't get hold of this guy.
"we can't get hold of this guy."


Thank yew-w-w-w! Thank you so much.

171 I hear that on Santa Monica Boulevard tonight, dozens of distraught Michael Jackson fans have moonwalked right out into traffic!

172 Mark 170.

Wow! Beautiful.  Now I understand.

173 That's no fun.

174 Posted by: Mark Sanford at June 30, 2009 05:44 PM (ao5cQ)

Wild applause!! 

Isn't that from the bible?

175 171, Kasper Hause at June 30, 2009 05:44 PM (ZPwZl)

I need to get out there with my Dodge Ram, how many points do I get per idiot??

176 Ewwwww Drudge has a pic of the reverend al dirty dancing ewwwww....

177 116.  Entropy

We know because Mrs. Sanford said so.

1.  She found a letter & learned of the affair in December.
2.  She told her husband she wanted to work on the marriage but that he had to break off the affair.
3.  He asks her about a month ago if he can go to Argentina.  She said no and asked him to move out in order to make up his mind.

A man truly repentant and committed to saving his marriage would have broken off the affair and put his energy into his marriage.

178

It would depend on the sons.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Children are a renewable resource. We can always make more.

179

We know because Mrs. Sanford said so.

Oh.

LOFL.

Please read what you wrote.

180
Is it true they're going to add a new category to the BET Awards, the Best Pimp?

I didn't think anyone could out-pimp and out-self-promote Al Sharpton until I watched Joe Jackson use his son's death to shamelessly pimp his new record company.

181 I heard hundreds of distraught Michael Jackson fans were self immolating while drinking Pepsi.

182

Look, I know divorced people. No infidelity involved. Just didn't work.

Trust me, you can't just ask the wife why it didn't work and take it at face value. Especially if it was totally her fault.

183

I was a Sanford supporter, and even appreciated that he may have loved his mistress.  I don't often agree w/K. Parker but her latest piece on this and her mention of eros and that the Sanford/Ben Chapur saga is a subject that is treated over and over again in literature is something that I agree with.

So now, he may not be a serial fornicator but he's a serial grab-ass, on occassion, with the boys, when they're "blowing off steam."

He probably never loved his wife.  She had talents upstairs that he needed.  She had money, etc.  

Her confabs with the press, however understandable, made her seem like she was trying too hard on one hand and trying to score points (I didn't think he had it in him!) on the other.  In one of the shots of her at home, she's sitting in a chair balled up in the fetal position.    And there are the kids between all of this.  He's their father, nothing is going to change that.  But I can't believe that he doesn't understand that continuing to play this in such a public manner isn't a crime against their innocence. 

A week ago, I said we shouldn't even be talking abou this, but it's really like watching an accident and not being able to look away.

184 179.  entropy

You can choose to disbelieve her and she may in fact be lying, but that doesn't make my comment "conjecture."

185 #161 Goddess  Sorry for your circumstance.  But don't let that cloud your accepting the facts.  Obviously my comments aren't an absolute but certainly true in the vast majority of cases.  Men aren't that advanced when compared to women.  They pale by comparison.  What they want and need to make them happy is very simple but women still don't get it and continue to blame everyone but themselves when things go sour.  Just read a new poll recently where close to 70% of men expressed a marked decline in their satisfaction with their marriages after kids came along.  Now just why in the hell do you think that is?  Again, continue to deny the very simple truth and once again risk being hurt.  Men are simple creatures.

186 I'll say again there is much more important shit going on than morons being mean to each other, now get with the program and be all you can be morons!!!

187 Entropy, why are you so obsessed with the character assassination of Mrs. Sanford?  What difference would it make even if she found out last week and hand delivered copies of the emails to the media?  How is the Governor's misconduct lessened even if hise wife was cheating, as one of the other commenters mentioned based on absolutely nothing?

188

sounds like all male elected figures need some salt peter while in office, or at the least a naked picture Michelle Obama.

189 Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 30, 2009 06:00 PM (Nj9Dm)

So, what you're saying is, stay turgid?  Oh, hey, how did those bacon-wrapped shrimp turn out?  I admit to a surge of jealousy when you posted that taunt.

190

He's one sorry, pathetic s.o.b.

His affair and subsequent need to share his 'love story' with the public, to the detriment of his family, makes him loathsome in my eyes.

His awol act makes him a lousy fucking employee and even worse leader of men.

I'll say the same thing I said the day this story broke and not play the moral-relativism game about it:

He nees to GTFO!

191

You can choose to disbelieve her and she may in fact be lying, but that doesn't make my comment "conjecture."

Don't take that the wrong way. I called the reverse argument the same. I'm not being perjorative.

The point is merely we do not know all the details of it all. And to make comments - not neccessarily yours - as many people have saying 'he has no soul' or 'he never tried to make his marriage work' is not, as rdbrewer would put it, objective apprehension of reality rather then subjective perception. To make such judgements you have to read his relationship like a Rorschach. Everyone will see what they want to see to make their point.

The wife is not an unbiased impartial source of information here.

And she lies to maximize her public appearance - we know that. Not that there's neccessarily anything wrong with that, but while this dude was missing and shortly after she was not entirely forthright about what she did or didn't know. So it's not like the thought hasn't occured to her that's she's in public view right now.

192 189, CB at June 30, 2009 06:05 PM (9Wv2j)

They turned out great, very tasty.

193

DEVASTATED Michael Jackson fanatics have committed suicide because of the superstar's death, according to the singer's biggest online fan club.

This is extremely good news.  A naturally occurring thinning of the herd is preferable to us normal citizens being forced to support and provide for the general welfare of these nut jobs.  Let the culling begin. 

194 185.  Mickey

I accept that fact that sex is the number one priority in a marriage to many men, including you.  I still maintain that if a man feels unsatisfied, he'd better communicate with his wife and work with her on the situation instead of breaking his commitments and betraying his family.

195 Yawn - dead horse, beat it up thing going on.  I have no down side anymore. Who cares what I do,when compared to what Obama is doing.  Maybe I should have made a sex tapelike  Edwards?

196

I mean, I said "you don't know that" and you said "Yes I do, ....... because Ms. Sanford said so.".

Hate to repeat myself but "You don't know that". Just because she claims something doesn't mean it's so, it may be, it may not be. We don't KNOW.

And that was point. The point I sought to make at least - we don't KNOW.

197 193, Fish at June 30, 2009 06:09 PM (FnA4R)

Wouldn't hurt my feelings if 100K lined up on the edge of the Grand Canyon and took a dive!!!

198 186 I'll say again there is much more important shit going on than morons being mean to each other, now get with the program and be all you can be morons!!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 30, 2009 06:00 PM (Nj9Dm)

agreed

199 Can we agree that if the Sanfords watched (more) porn as a couple, they'd still be together as a couple?  We may not agree on what kind of porn they should have watched, but we can certainly agree that porn held the answer. 

In many respects porn is like bacon, there's practically nothing it cannot do.

200 196.  Entropy

All right, allow me to rephrase:  We only know what Mrs. Sanford has said in her statement to the press.

201
Wait.

An blocked memory is re-surfacing...

*standby*

I'm hearing Ease on down Ease on down...the roooo-oad, Ease on down Ease on down...the roooo-oad. And I have a mental image of Michael Jackson dressed as a scarecrow.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

202

#28...

Perhaps, just perhaps... she was a loving and caring wife up to and during his fucking around but, unlike too many women before her, decided to tell him to hit the friggin road. Perhaps, staying awake at night and wondering who your sworn partner is diddling will do cause a person to be less empathetic to the political aspirations of that person.

Perhaps, having to look her children in the face on Father's Day, no less, and tell them that she couldn't explain why their father wasn't there did it to her.

Don't get me wrong, women screw around too and if it was the other way around, my thought process would be no different.

Sanford needs to get the f**k out of office.

Seriously, how much actual work is he getting done while moping around like a fucking puppy?

203

#199...

If I hadn't read your handle I would have sworn that Gator had written that.

204

Entropy, why are you so obsessed with the character assassination of Mrs. Sanford?

Because, at worst, I see it not so much effective as a character assassination but rather a balancing factor against the character assassination of Mr. Sanford.

Why are you so obsessed with the character assassination of Mr. Sanford?

You don't know all the details of why he's done all that he's done to be making half the judgements upon him that have been made by various people in this thread.

GRANTED, what he did was not exactly peachy. But there are so many terrible horrible people out there it's an odd priority. There's far worse found in the halls of government if you're looking the hyperbolize and make moral examples out of people.

You'll note I have NOT assassinated Ms. Sanford's character in any matter. I've said not much of a damn thing about her, other then "We don't know". I'm not saying it is or isn't her fault - I'm saying I don't know. Nor do I entirely care or need to know.

But rushing to one judgement or the other, same difference. If you ask me why I'm assuming one side of the argument, hypothetically, it's in reaction to you assuming the other.

But mine is hypothetical. You (or some others) seem to be asserting your judgement as fact, when it is not. This is what I'm illustrating with my so-called "obsession".

205 Seriously, how much actual work is he getting done while moping around like a fucking puppy?

fwiw, Sanford's willing to rub his nose in his mistake.

and, perhaps, be swatted on the nose with a newspaper.

206
My new theory: If we put Adam Corolla and Norm McDonald in a room and let them talk, they could put everyone in a coma.

207

porn held the answer

Especially two Hooter's girls playing bump the humps,  and eventually breaking out the elongated strap-on for the finale.  Goose bumps!

208 You don't know all the details of why he's done all that he's done to be making half the judgements upon him that have been made by various people in this thread.

Heh, give the man time.  If he had simply kept his insane mouth shut once Michael Jackson did him the huge favor of knocking him out of the headlines, would we really still be talking about this?  I think not . . . 

209 Maria saw Mark as a pussy just like I do, if he was such a cocksman then he wouldn't be acting like poon or palin steele and move the hell out of SC!!!

210

@207.

don't forget the gag-ball and riding crop.

211 when we ki i i i ss i'm like fiaa

You think Sanford can do a pretty good Elmer Fudd impersonation and sing some Bruce Springsteen? I can picture it now, him singing to his sweet pineapple head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd3KB5Z39vo

Link above will take you to video of Elmer Fudd singing. So you know what I'm talking about.

212 Really I think the only positive lesson that we conservatives should take from this whole sad, pathetic Mark Sanford affair is that we shouldn't rely on politicians.  We can only rely on ourselves.  All politicians, even R's, will screw us over or let us down some day.  And the let down is only magnified if we pin our hopes on them.

So, forget Sanford.  Even if he hadn't had the affair, even if he had defeated Obama in 2012, he still would have let us down in some other way.  That is what politicians do.

213 204.  Entropy

You raise an important point.  Having been through an eerily similar situation as Jenny Sanford has, I identify strongly with her.  I also see Mark Sanford's behavior since this news broke, and from that I've drawn some conclusions, which may of course be mistaken.

Sometime it's not about sex so much as it is about wanting to run away from commitments and feel like an irresponsible teenager again.

214

How is the Governor's misconduct lessened even if hise wife was cheating, as one of the other commenters mentioned based on absolutely nothing?

Seriously?

Uh.... greatly.

I mean, if they were both cheating around it isn't so much cheating anymore as it's basically become MINO - married in name only.

Seriously you wouldn't think it would make ANY difference if she was also sleeping with other people?

How is the misconduct of his infidelity lessoned if, hypothetically, it was a loveless marriage of convienance (or 'for the children') and she was a bitter and frigid shrew? Hypothetically? Versus her being a loyal loving supportive saintly mother and wife and him just being a callous lecher? Tremendously mitigated.

How? Really? .... Uh... self evidently? It just seems so obvious..

215 He's a typical beta male who finally got some and can't stop flapping his piehole about it.  It's his ego talking now.  Somebody posted on HA that she'd always assumed he had the personality of a cardboard cutout.  He's just trying to bolster his street cred with all this revolting chatter.

216 20 I like what Allahpundit said....his staff needs to get him away from the microphone before he starts telling us what positions he and Maria tried out.  Funny

I hope AP doesn't crank out 10 "we're doomed with Sarah" threads to make amends with his butterhips best friend forever Meghan. After all, Meghaton said we have to lay off Sanford because he's our latest best hope.

217

Having been through an eerily similar situation as Jenny Sanford has, I identify strongly with her.

Yes. And if I had to guess, my GUESS is, you're very wrong here with your judgements against him. Because when I look at him, my intuition, with all this sappy pineappleheaded nonsense, is something else entirely.

But my assumptions are no better then yours. It could be either.

That's the only point I've got - everyones going to make these biased assumptions based on their own experiences. And there's nothing neccessarily wrong with that - it's nature, but we should be aware of our own bias and not mistakenly regard our assumptions as fact.

218

I accept that fact that sex is the number one priority in a marriage to many men, including you.  I still maintain that if a man feels unsatisfied, he'd better communicate with his wife and work with her on the situation instead of breaking his commitments and betraying his family.

Or he could've just skipped the diplomacy and threatened to ban chocolate, raise taxes on shoes, and mandate that the thermostat in the governors mansion be permanently set to 68 degrees unless she put out more.

219 If I wanted to watch a soap opera, I would watch ABC (God forbid), night, night morons.

220 This Argentinian broad must work on his Marcus like a hopped-up Hoover on steroids.

221 He's mindless with guilt.  He's looking for absolution from anywhere.  Of course, he won't get it from his wife.  Maybe from the public...

222

He's a typical beta male

OK, personal rant: I hate that right brain/left brain bullshit (if you catch my analogy) and to the extremely limited extent it's marginally useful, Allah doesn't even use it right.

And you're not even using it 'right' like Allah does! It's like you got a wrong answer wrong.

Under absolutely no circumstances is the rich politician with a wife and (at least one) mistress a "beta male".

223

Under absolutely no circumstances is the rich politician with a rich wife and (at least one) mistress a "beta male".

Posted by: Entropy at June 30, 2009 06:36 PM (cok/k)

FIFY.  And, it's in the eye of the beholder, but I think this guy is definitely a beta male.  Alpha males do NOT spew the kind of nonsense he's been hawking the last few days, imo.

224 >>his staff needs to get him away from the microphone before he starts telling us what positions he and Maria tried out<<

His staff needs to shut up and let the man preach it. Confession is good for the soul. Expiation of sin requires a full and unstinting accounting.

Just admit it: you know he's weird enough that he had a necktie around his head and giggled into the mirror while throwing the Shocker on her.

The South--and I should know, I'm from there--breeds some serious crazy.

225

Heh, give the man time.  If he had simply kept his insane mouth shut once Michael Jackson did him the huge favor of knocking him out of the headlines, would we really still be talking about this?  I think not . .

Oh, I agree with you there. I really don't know why the friggin hell he confessed in the first place.

Or screwed the coverup so badly.

I'd have been like "Dude, I took a vacation. FYNQ. None of your damn business where. FYNQ. What do you mean my office told you they didn't know? Who did you speak to, the janitor? We're gonna have to have an interoffice talk about reading memos before talking to the press."

Then I'd assemble my staff and shoot them all and shove them down a well.

226

After all, we all know alpha males never become smitten or broken-hearted.

 

227

Entropy makes some good points. 

I thought Sanford's emails revealed a few things about their marriage.  As a single person, I've watched a few of my friends marriages fall apart and have had co-workers ask me for advice.  Why, I don't really know. I think probably because I did try to see both sides, and would call b/s if I thought they were sliding in some cant.  Sometimes I could see why their husbands would stray.  Not that they were bad women, it was just that they no longer had any idea of what their husbands needs might be.

Men talk after sex.  That's when you get to know quite a few things about them that you need or should want to know.  And it's been my experince that it's the most significant way they bond with you.  It's not merely about a drive to release. That's how they love.  Admittedly, I've been celibate for a long time now, so maybe my recollection isn't all that it should be.   

228

After all, we all know alpha males never become smitten or broken-hearted.

Posted by: Owner of Secret Lair On Skullcrusher Mountain at June 30, 2009 06:43 PM (cHWBY)

Sure they do, rd.  But I don't think most of them ask their wives for permission to go visit the mistress . . .

229 Right now Sanford is the chatty drunk at the party who hasn't yet figured out that people haven't been laughing WITH him for the past hour. Someone needs to punch him in the mouth and stick him on a plane right back to Argentina. He can stay there.

230 Someone needs to punch him in the mouth and stick him on a plane right back to Argentina.

Along with Al Franken.

231 oh pleeze, anyone who was VP of M&A at Lazard is no shrinking violet, no poor little wifey waiting for hubby to come prancing in.  So put that one to rest. This is a Hillary clinton type of woman.

232

Under absolutely no circumstances is the rich politician with a wife and (at least one) mistress a "beta male".

Yeah, a guy who won't fuck, won't fight.

They only got rid of polygamy to give the betas at least a small chance to get laid.

233 I was just watching the unnecessary blabbering today.  Seems like he's trying to ensure punishment.  Guilt, again. 

234
Men talk after sex.

To who?

235

Sure they do, rd.  But I don't think most of them ask their wives for permission to go visit the mistress . . .

See, now, I don't know one way or the other.

But I tell you, I flat out don't believe that. So I'm not operating with that in mind when I make my judgements right now. It makes no damn sense and therefor, is probably a lie.

Because WTF? It makes no damn sense.

236

They only got rid of polygamy to give the betas at least a small chance to get laid.

I hate you.

237
Men talk after sex.

To who?

You know, to their lover.  They're chatter boxes. 

Man:   No, honey, come back here.  No, not for more sex.  I need about a half an hour more for that.  I need to finish this conversation with you. 

Woman:  So, does that mean I can't make us some espresso? 

Man:  Not right now!  I need to talk to you.

Woman:  Okay, honey.  Whatever you want.

238 I said it on day 1 when this happened, and I will reiterate...this is EXACTLY what Sanford wanted.

He wanted to be caught, so he could finally come out and not have to hide it anymore.

I doubt he will stay married long...perhaps for the boys sake. But assuming he is financially set, he's gonna hitch with the argentinian sweetheart and live happily ever after.

And someone posted that his wife used to work as VP or M&A for Lazard....boy, why any man would marry such a woman escapes me. Its just like you should generally as a rule never marry female lawyers...they're over ambitious hard workers who have no sense of what it means to live life.

I'm still on Mark Sanford's team, he seems far more chill than his wife.

239 If they break up who will get that adorable black Lab?

240 Mary,

the usual stereotype is men fall asleep right after sex. not saying you're wrong, just saying you're going against the grain here.

241

You know, to their lover.  They're chatter boxes. 

That must be a beta thing. I just leave a tip on  the dresser or roll over and sleep.

242 He does go on, doesn't he?

243 Any attempt to analyze this situation with logic will fail.

What he should have done is ____.  Of course he should have done this or that, but you have to consider this a form of insanity.

Any man, alpha or beta, can fall head over heels in crazy love.  What follows is not predictable, nor sane.

Why, why, why me?
Fallin' in love is the very last thing I need,
If I had any sense you know I'd turn right around and leave,
Why, why, why me?

Everybody plays the fool,
no exception to the rule.

244

I hate you.

When I become emperor, polygamy is in. If the betas want to have a wife, they can go conquer someone and take war brides.

245 The gov's wife - Winnetka Illinois

hillary - Park ridge Illinois

246 OMG Dennis Kneale is stuck with the democrat pundit who make the worst biotch look normal.

247 It takes two people to mess up a marriage - or make it work.  In this case, though, I cant help feel sorry for the wife just because he can't keep his friggin' mouth shut.  It's not enough that she's (and the kids) hurt and humiliated that the marriage is a mess, but he has to go on about it in too much detail, publicly  She must be a good person 'cause I woulda shot his ass after the first harlequin romance press conference.

248 Since we're on the topic of sex....

Daily sex makes for healthier sperm

249 The woman talking to the press doesn't look hurt or humiliated but she does look like she is out for her pound of flesh and she plans to get it, no matter what.

250

Sanford's a fool- I saw a photo of this argentine bombshell- she looks pretty ordinary to me, yet sanford felt she was worth self-destructing over

and sanford forgot an important maxim- no matter how hot 'she' is, somewhere out there is a guy who has HAD IT with her bullshit and is glad to be free

251 I'm still on Mark Sanford's team, he seems far more chill than his wife.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 30, 2009 07:11 PM (VDj74)

Reason enough to march Mark out to the firing squad.

Entropy, I asked 'what difference does any characterization of his wife make? because it is not obvious that it makes any difference.  Mark is unreliable (there's no question that he left the country and was out of contact for the better part of a week) and clearly can't do his job (as evidenced by his insistence on spending all hi time looking for a microphone and the next mea culpa),

I don't understand why you think he should get bonus points for hypothetically being in a sham marriage, nor do I think he should keep his job just because you can conceive of some way to spin the situation that might have defused it.

252 Um, Governor? Do me a solid and take a breather. You're wearing me to a nubbin on that bedrock.

253

I don't understand why you think he should get bonus points for hypothetically being in a sham marriage, nor do I think he should keep his job just because you can conceive of some way to spin the situation that might have defused it.

He should keep his job or not based on whether or not he's doing a good job, and by all accounts I've heard, he is.

I really don't care if he disappears for a week. If he HAD been hiking, would you still want him to resign? I wouldn't care.

I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you need to think your governor is working 24/7 because it gives you a sense of safety or something (maybe not, I'm being snarky), but if he gets the job done I don't care if he works 2 hours a week.

Hell, as a minarchist, I'd prefer it.

Did you have any complaints before this?

Do you even have any substantive complaints NOW, other then "he wasn't there! He wasn't doing his job!" What job didn't he do that week that screwed you over?

254 Larry,

So true.

My brother likes to say that you set out to find a girl who can suck a golf ball through a garden hose and wind up with one who can nag the chrome off a trailer hitch.

255

And if you want to make the argument "he used state resources to fly to argetina', again, look - look at your options dude. Look at the whole of his record.

I don't know because I haven't been following the dudes career, but what little I've heard he's a stand up conservative.

Should he be using state resources to go on vacation? No.

Will the next governor do it too, and more? Probably.

Most governors misuse resources way worse then that.

Hell I'm from Illinois, so long as a guy doesn't wind up in jail we consider him a paragon of virtue.

As a politician, what are your standards? Who are you comparing him against? Who's gonna be better?

Don't bitch at me that he falls short of perfect. He certainly does. But who you got who's better? He ain't that bad.

256

Like I said, in terms of political governance, I'd rather have a Caligulan Conservative then a profoundly decent, leave-it-to-beaver Communist.

Ultimately I care less about what he's doing with his penis then what he's doing with my wallet.

It'd be NICE if he could keep his penis to himself, sure. But if he privatizes all the local schools with vouchers I can tolerate him supergluing a live badger to his dick live on MSNBC and then mauling Keith Olbermann with it, it's better then the alternative.

257

Yeah, what Entropy said.

I'm pretty sure the oath of office he took did not include a "forsake all others" bit.

258

Should he be using state resources to go on vacation? No.

I disagree.  One of the perks of office.  You get to fly in the state plane.  Otherwise, Hillary owes us a lot of money for her round-the-world tour in Air Force One while Bill was president.  And then Michelle just had to stay in europe a few extra days to do some shopping.  You know how it is.  She just had to.  And O'Bama went on a rather expensive date recently.

I think it's a perk, but it should be used judiciously. 

One time our governor years ago was confronted about the use of the state plane.  He took his family to some vacation spot or to take a look at a college for the kid or something.  Some reported asked in an accusing way whether he had used the state plane for personal reasons.  He said, "Yes."

Love that.

259 So it is a perk for the politicians but the business men are expected to fly coach? 

260

So it is a perk for the politicians but the business men are expected to fly coach? 

Why compare the two?  No relationship between the two halves of your question.

261

I disagree.  One of the perks of office. 

It's a valid argument.

You'll not find many more fiscally conservative then me. But flying around on the state jet is really not remotely one of our pressing problems.

To chuck this lying, cheating, perk abusing conservative guy for a lying cheating perk abusing liberal would be penny wise and dollar foolish.

262

the business men are expected to fly coach? 

Successful business men fly around in private company jets all the time.

There's been a lot of furor over it lately, what with all the bailouts and government micromanagement of industries, but I don't endorse any of that.

They're free to fly around in jets.

As for wasting taxpayer dollars on jets, well I wouldn't have bailed their asses out in the first place.

263 Soon we will be treated to a politician who will openly talk about his dick...and the things he does with it. Sorta like the vagina monologues, only it'll be about his cock.

264 I promise that, if elected, I will use my penis to push the red button that nukes Iran.

265

penny wise and dollar foolish.

Aye.

266

I will also use my penis to negotiate a Palestinian peace settlement, by bludgeoning Mahmoud Abbas in the forehead with it until he agrees to move to Jordan.

I will then wash my penis off and place it in it's sheath, AKA the first lady.

I will do this on the bust of Wiston Churchill I will re-loan from the British Embassy.

Be warned: Once my penis is drawn it cannot be resheathed without tasting nuclear launch codes.

Otherwise, I'll be in Tahiti if you need me, decidely not signing any new bills into law whatsoever for the next 4 years.

267 Daily sex makes for healthier sperm

After the runner Palin thread, my essence is as refined as pure-grain alcohol in rain water.

268 WTF are you going to do, live on the Pampas?

I'm sure no one would miss the guy if he disappeared to Patagonia someplace....

269

DEMONS OUT!!!!

*hand to Sanford's forehead*

270 The concept of "Your're fucked" is going to be the main theme that you are going to pass down to kids.

271 hmmmm. odd. I know some people want to paint the wife as a controlling shrill woman and maybe a mommy too busy to have sex... WE all know that story.

but i know something of men in prestigious positions. But with money and power can come weirdness. Its possible for one to have a hot wife,who gives him any kind of perverted sex, on demand with no strings attached, and if they have been married for years ... have him just get bored with her. Wealthy powerful men often feel entitled,  want some strange, and to try other flavours. This does tend to make wifey cranky when she finds out.

Man in question and woman that i knew tried to work it out for five years while he flagrantly had affairs (often in front of her) and acted like he was so put upon by his psycho wife, who acted neurotic and needy. New Girl is very surprised is surprised to discover, now that this guy is hers full time, that he's also violent in... aham...private. And the last woman wasnt psycho--she was terrorized. She still doesnt know about the men, im sure that will come out.

Sometimes things are not as they appear. they are much much weirder.

Just a true story i know. Dont assume a man cheats just cuz hes needy and the womans not trying to give him what he wants. Sometimes people are just weird.

272 Mark Sanford needs to spend more time talking
about his affair because it helps the Republican lose
votes that they could used to stop ..........you know

273

I am going out on a limb here but I think Sanford does not want to move back in with his wife and children...

 

274 The scene: Mark Sanford's next news conference.

Gov. Sanford: OK...I been thinking that there are a few more things I need to get off of my chest so I can get on with the peoples' business and to help heal my family. So here goes. There were times when I couldn't be with my soulmate so I would take some solace by sitting at my computer and browsing certain websites. I'm sure you know what kind of websites I mean. Anyway, while looking at these websites...I like the variety and the search feature of Pornhub, I must tell you...Anyway,as I was saying. While looking at these websites at no time did I cross the line. I repeat. I did not cross the line...Oh, except maybe one time. I think it was an interracial gangbang scene with Sasha Gray. God, that little girl can take a big one....Goodness, me. But that's the only time...THE ONLY TIME. Ahh, wait a minute...OK, I think there might have been one other time of line crossing...Yeah, it was Angel Dark....on a pool table...with a dildo....you know, one of those clear plastic ones...boy those are sexy... and her tits are huge....AND REAL!!! Yeah, I did cross the line there too. And it got all over my pants. But that's it. OK that's all for today. I'd like to thank the press for coming. No pun intended. haha. I should be able to think of more to confess so contact my press office and we can do this again tomorrow. Thank you.

275

"14 'There was an argument floating around that Sanford should stick it out to defy the media's Republican scandal=resignation habit.'"

I think he's spent too much time sticking it out already; now it needs to be Bobbited off and he needs to get out of here and STFU.

BTW - Off topic, but may I share? Do you know the difference in the Knicks and Micelle Obama? The Knicks take a shower after four periods.

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