Obama, Enemy of Democracy and Human Rights

Long but strong WSJ on Obama's abandonment, both rhetorical and practical, of any kind of emphasis on democracy and human rights as US policy goals.

The writer scratches his head at Obama's headlong embrace of authoritarianism as the future of history:

At a glance, Obama's motives seemed readily apparent. Former State Department official J. Scott Carpenter observed that it was "obvious and understandable" that "the Obama administration wanted to distance itself from the tone and perceived baggage of the Bush administration." But there were two reasons why this explanation did not satisfy.
For one, Obama might have put his own stamp on the issue without turning so sharply away from the goals of human rights and democracy. In 1981, Ronald Reagan came to the presidency with a mandate analogous to Obama's, namely, to undo the works of an unpopular predecessor. At first, Reagan was inclined to eschew human rights as just another part of Jimmy Carter's wooly-minded liberalism. In an early interview, Secretary of State Alexander Haig announced that the Reagan administration would promote human rights mostly by combating terrorism. But soon Reagan had second thoughts: instead of jettisoning the issue, he put his own distinctive spin on it by shifting the rhetoric and the program to focus more on fostering democracy.
In a similar vein, Obama could have faulted the Bush administration for its ineffectiveness in promoting democracy and promised that his own team would do it better. Indeed, Michael McFaul, who handled democracy issues in the Obama campaign, declared after the election that the new administration would "talk less and do more" about democratization than Bush had done. But when McFaul was appointed to the National Security Council staff, he was given the Russia portfolio rather than the job of overseeing democracy promotion. The latter task, which had been entrusted to senior staff during the Bush years, was given to no one.
The other reason why Obama's tack cannot be understood merely by his impulse to be unlike Bush is that his disinterest in democracy and human rights is global. The idea of promoting these values did not originate with Bush but with Carter and Reagan, reinforced by Bill Clinton. Bush's innovation was to apply this to the Middle East, which heretofore largely had been exempted. Repealing Bush's legacy would have meant turning the clock back on America's Middle East policy. But Obama scaled back democracy efforts not only there; he did it everywhere.

Yesterday on Brett Baier's show, Mara Liason played Obama-apologist by claiming that Obama didn't really want Chavez crony Zelaya returned to power; he really wanted him deposed, and was happy with the outcome. However, she contended, he was displeased by the way it was accomplished, and furthermore, needed to say he supported the re-installation of Zelaya. Even though he didn't.

This was a similar spin to what we heard on Obama's cautious even-handedness on Iran. Don't you think Obama really wants the democrats in Iran to prevail?, John Kerry asked rhetorically He answered rhetorically, too: "Come on."

Well, "Come on" is not an adequate answer for me. I'm afraid I am not on Obama's level of brilliance and so I do not understand that when he seems to support the mullahs in Iran, he really opposes them, and when he seems to support the unconstitutional dictator-for-life bid of a Hugo Chavez footboy, he really strenuously opposes it.

Nor do I comprehend how in one instance silence is necessary to dispel any suggestion of "meddling," but in another instance it is necessary to directly intervene to dispel the accusation of "meddling."

Nor do I understand, when it comes right down to it, why it is the most powerful elected official of the most powerful nation on earth must so frequently resort to the puerile lies of a Mean Girl, so limited is he by peer pressure.

I do not understand why it is that Obama cannot merely say he supports democrats and liberalizers and reformers, if he does indeed support them, nor why he cannot say he opposes tyrants and leftist coups, if he does indeed oppose them.

And I don't really understand why those sympathetic to Obama are so easily satisfied by telling themselves "He must just be lying about something it's not necessary nor useful to lie about."

Maybe I, like the last president I voted for, George W. Bush, lack the nuance of Barack Obama, but generally I seem to think that if you support someone, you say so, and if you oppose someone, you say that too.

Posted by: Ace at 02:30 PM

Comments

1 Well the course of history bends ever towards justice.

Liberty, not so much.

Posted by: Methos at June 30, 2009 02:32 PM (wU8X9)

2 Honesty was the best policy until newspeak.

Posted by: maverick muse at June 30, 2009 02:34 PM (F1b/5)

3 Socialists/commies view the masses as cattle to be herded. Who cares what they think?

Posted by: nickless at June 30, 2009 02:35 PM (MMC8r)

4 played Obama-apologist by claiming that Obama didn't really want Chavez crony Zelaya returned to power; he really wanted him deposed, and was happy with the outcome

Delusional. Simply delusional, and not the least because they expect that everyone else likewise lacks clarity. The question is: Are they really this stupid or are they simply in denial over what they've elected?

Posted by: Popcorn at June 30, 2009 02:37 PM (Tha0W)

Mara Liason played Obama-apologist by claiming that Obama didn't really want Chavez crony Zelaya returned to power; he really wanted him deposed, and was happy with the outcome.

yeah, Barry doesn't want him in there he just wants him in there.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 30, 2009 02:38 PM (1Jaio)

6 nickless: What they think is important when:

It threatens the State's control of said masses.

The feelings of the retards in charge are hurt by those opinions.

Fixing this is what Thought Police are for.

Posted by: Kristopher at June 30, 2009 02:40 PM (EqbaN)

7 And I don't really understand why those sympathetic to Obama are so easily satisfied by telling themselves "He must just be lying about something it's not necessary nor useful to lie about."

This is a variation of the general delusion that so many Obama voters, from concerned christian conservatives to ardent liberals, believed on election day. "Oh, Obama, doesn't really mean {insert statement here}. No I am sure he agrees with me. That's why I am going to vote for him."

Posted by: peterargus at June 30, 2009 02:40 PM (2P9jn)

8 Is it really that hard to understand? Liberals have never been a part of America. They have no knowledge of our traditions or basic values. All they care about is the capacity to impose their will on us. They believe that by defeating America and casting down her values, they will have proven their adequacy. Or something. Hence they support or at least make excuses for every totalitarian regime they can finr, so long as it can be bothered to mumble something about working for the good of it's people.

They are hopelessly irredeemable scum. And we are rapidly approaching the inevitable reckoning they have coming. And whether it turns out like Iran or Honduras will depend largely on the extent to which we stand against their efforts to manipulate perception, and the proportion of our armed forces that are loyal to their oathes. The latter is where I draw my hope.

Posted by: Methos at June 30, 2009 02:45 PM (wU8X9)

9 Ace Ace Ace, you're just not sophisticated enough to see all the nuancy nuanceness. It's just so [sigh] nuanced, no?

Posted by: MSM Obama Fellator at June 30, 2009 02:45 PM (RD7QR)

Come on Ace.

Posted by: John Kerry at June 30, 2009 02:45 PM (wuv1c)

11 They're a bunch of authoritarian superfans. The fact that they're in power gives them the cover they need to appear as "foreign policy realists" to the untrained eye.

Posted by: tachyonshuggy at June 30, 2009 02:46 PM (TXp3z)

12 The question is: Are they really this stupid or are they simply in denial over what they've elected? Posted by: Popcorn

The answer: Yes.

Posted by: Chimney Sweep #8 at June 30, 2009 02:46 PM (kIjlp)

13 I seem to think that if you support someone, you say so, and if you oppose someone, you say that too.

Ace, you're far too simple to understand the complex, nuanced genius of The Kenyan.

The Kenyan has come to rule us with a velvet glove. Or an iron fist. The choice is yours.

Posted by: tsj017 at June 30, 2009 02:47 PM (TBwnU)

14 Thank you, Chimney Sweep #8. I thought the options were mutually exclusive but I can see that I have not achieved appropriate levels of nuance. I still think that standing up for the right course/idea is appropriate adult behavior.

Posted by: Popcorn at June 30, 2009 02:50 PM (Tha0W)

15 Really good article. It is really long but worth the read.

Posted by: UofC Conservative at June 30, 2009 02:50 PM (3FkM/)

16 Obama is surrounded by sycophants. Everyone tells him that what he doing/saying is the right move, despite its lack of consistency, so that's what he believes. I'm not sure he thinks he capable of making a mistake, as no matter what he says the media justifies it as brilliant and spins it for him.

This guy's ego make Ghaddfi's look modest, and the media and his followers are only make it worse (someone made an Obama dildo for pete's sake). So when he spoons feeds us his shit, we're supposed to smile and ask for more, not question why we eating feces.

Posted by: I have a Jalen Rose jersey at June 30, 2009 02:51 PM (4yrb2)

17 When and article lists some of the reasons why Obama does something stupid, "It might be this, or it might be that, or it could be that yada yada...." the last reason is never "Or maybe Obama is just an idiot."

That's puzzling.

Posted by: alppuccino at June 30, 2009 02:51 PM (nwXF9)

Obama's presidency so far has been a toss-up between "These aren't the droids you're looking for" and "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

Posted by: Joanna at June 30, 2009 02:54 PM (gJQTg)

A reminder:

We haven't had a really big bang...yet.

Anyone else pining for the Clinton years?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 30, 2009 02:55 PM (B+qrE)

Look at these massive rallies in Honduras. They seem to be all pro-constitution, anti-Zelaya, but my Spanish sucks so I'm not sure. If anyone knows good espanol, maybe drop them a comment of support from the U.S.

http://www.laprensahn.com/

Posted by: yinzer at June 30, 2009 02:57 PM (/Mla1)

Mara Liason played Obama-apologist by claiming that Obama didn't really want Chavez crony Zelaya returned to power; he really wanted him deposed,

That's funny.

The question is, is she really that stupid? Does she even belive this senseless drivel? If so, why?

Posted by: Jay at June 30, 2009 02:57 PM (/ZX77)

22 The question is, is she really that stupid? Does she even belive this senseless drivel? If so, why?

What's that bit from 1984 about a good citizen being able to simultaneously hold two directly conflicting beliefs?

Posted by: tsj017 at June 30, 2009 03:02 PM (TBwnU)

23 Point #2 to consider.

Obama is an isolationist. He doesn't care what goes on outside our borders and it seen asa distraction from implementing his new, radical social agenda. Standing up to brutal dictators isn't easy and getting involved isn't always popular. Hence, when a crisis erupts, he takes the path of least resistance. This explains why he doesn't support the Iranian resistance, why he's been silent on the norks, why he's siding with the thugs Chavez and Castro, and why his criticism of Bush on Sudan has thus far been nothing but empty rhetoric.

The rest of the civilized world will quickly learn what it's like to not have the U.S policing it, and my guess is they're not going to like it.

Posted by: I have a Jalen Rose jersey at June 30, 2009 03:02 PM (4yrb2)

24 I think the major reasons are that these apologists largely agree or don't really care about these things and they can't bring themselves to admit they were wrong.

Posted by: Tony B at June 30, 2009 03:02 PM (Ov2l6)

#8 and the proportion of our armed forces that are loyal to their oathes. The latter is where I draw my hope.

Don't forget those of us that are prior service. Our oath still stands. So does our love for our country and it's constitution.

Posted by: teej at June 30, 2009 03:03 PM (lG7ds)

26 17 When and article lists some of the reasons why Obama does something stupid, "It might be this, or it might be that, or it could be that yada yada...." the last reason is never "Or maybe Obama is just an idiot."

That's puzzling.

Well, I've been wondering myself if Captain Zero is evil or an idiot. Clearly, he's doing things that no one in their right mind would do. So, that means he's either an idiot, or he knows exactly what he's doing and he intends to cause harm to democracy, liberty, capitalism, and everyone who supports these things.

If he were an evil idiot, then he would be Joe "the Sheriff".

Posted by: The Other Shoe at June 30, 2009 03:04 PM (uLdQA)

27 I think the major reasons are that these apologists largely agree or don't really care about these things and they can't bring themselves to admit they were wrong.

Not just that, but they'd have to admit that Bush was right on when it came to his approach towards foreign policy and I'm not sure they'd be able to do that without having a complete psychotic breakdown.

Posted by: I have a Jalen Rose jersey at June 30, 2009 03:04 PM (4yrb2)

28 The are anti-Zelaya; it says they are marching peacefully against the return of Zelaya.

Posted by: Brad at June 30, 2009 03:06 PM (LZs5x)

29 Don't worry, Ace, none of us understand his shit either.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 30, 2009 03:06 PM (ZGhSv)

30 Obama doesn't really want to run GM either. And he certainly doesn't want to run health insurance. Obama seems to be doing a lot of thing he doesn't want to do.

Posted by: JohnJ at June 30, 2009 03:06 PM (giXIt)

31 That was in response to #20.

Posted by: Brad at June 30, 2009 03:07 PM (LZs5x)

32 The question is, is she really that stupid? Does she even belive this senseless drivel? If so, why?

The Media is just so far in the tank that they must weasel m'Bonga's words. This reminds me of Diane Sawyer's surprise.

"You know, I wanted to sit on a jury once and I was taken off the jury. And the judge said to me, 'Can, you know, can you tell the truth and be fair?' And I said, 'That's what journalists do.' And everybody in the courtroom laughed. It was the most hurtful moment I think I've ever had."

Posted by: trainer at June 30, 2009 03:07 PM (bQbQ1)

33 Well Jimmy Carter talked a lot about democracy and human rights, but this mostly ended up being a stick to beat our allies with for not being perfect and an excuse to give undue credit to our enemies for killing 2% fewer dissidents. Obama seems to be following the same path.

Posted by: M�tenloch at June 30, 2009 03:12 PM (bDos2)

34 Starting to miss GWB?

He said what he meant and meant what he said.

Posted by: mojo at June 30, 2009 03:12 PM (g1cNf)

35 The are anti-Zelaya; it says they are marching peacefully against the return of Zelaya.

Posted by: Brad at June 30, 2009 03:06 PM (LZs5x)

Amazingly I haven't seen any coverage of that in this country. I wonder why?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 30, 2009 03:13 PM (1Jaio)

36 This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end

Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end
No safety or surprise, the end
Ill never look into your eyes...again

Can you picture what will be
So limitless and free
Desperately in need...of some...strangers hand
In a...desperate land

Lost in a roman...wilderness of pain
And all the children are insane
All the children are insane
Waiting for the summer rain, yeah

Posted by: MAJHAM at June 30, 2009 03:19 PM (c2P97)

OK, where is the Venezuela is going to invade Honduras stuff coming from? I would pay very good money to watch Hugo's monkeys try.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 30, 2009 03:19 PM (B+qrE)

38 #20: Look at these massive rallies in Honduras. They seem to be all pro-constitution, anti-Zelaya, but my Spanish sucks so I'm not sure. If anyone knows good espanol, maybe drop them a comment of support from the U.S.

Captions:
"Thousands from San Pedro and the capital have congregated to march peacefully against the return of Manuel Zelaya to Honduras."

"Tens of thousands of Hondurans are in the center of the capital demanding international respect for the government of Roberto Micheletti."

"Hondurans went into the streets on Tuesday to declare themselves, so that the international community recognizes that Honduras defended her democracy."

Signs:
"Micheletti is our president"
"Proud to have a true democracy"

Posted by: CM at June 30, 2009 03:19 PM (f14vX)

39 From the Corner: President Barack Obama�s claims of broad executive authority to carry out the war on terror are drawing fire from an unexpected source: federal judges nominated by President George W. Bush, who asserted the sweeping powers in the first place.

Tells you what those judges think of Obama and his use of those powers. Bush = okay; Obama = not so much so cut him back.

Hahahah.

Posted by: Popcorn at June 30, 2009 03:21 PM (Tha0W)

40 Chavez and someone (Argentina?) said they'd fight IF their embassy was invaded, or some such shit. But where would Obama stand if Venezuela decided to march on Honduras to reinstate a potential dictator/ally?

Obama is a citizen of the world (he states) ... maybe he wants to be world president next.

Posted by: bill at June 30, 2009 03:24 PM (XzFO1)

41 "Don't forget those of us that are prior service. Our oath still stands. So does our love for our country and it's constitution."

I get first dibs on standing behind 'Nam Grunt for protection.

All this "he says x, but means y" is just beyond ridiculous. I can't believe these idiots actually believe that. If so, they are so far beyond brainwashed, there's no hope for them. White is black, up is down, good is evil, etc.....

Thank G*d I am not a liberal.

Posted by: Twinks at June 30, 2009 03:24 PM (lFhCW)

if Venezuela decided to march on Honduras to reinstate a potential dictator/ally?

This is the thing--Hugo's military couldn't invade a Care Bears Film Festival in downtown Caracas. But I would sure like to seem them try. Every marx Brothers picture running at the same time comes to mind.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 30, 2009 03:26 PM (B+qrE)

43 They guys make John "I voted for it before I voted against it" Kerry look like a piker. I am amazed every single time the administration and their lackeys make statements like these. It's becoming more and more clear that the average citizen is too stupid to be allowed to vote.

Posted by: Steve L. at June 30, 2009 03:27 PM (Gkhxf)

44 Officer, of course I was going 60 mph. but you have to know I meant only to go 30 mph. So, we're cool, right?

Posted by: that's the ticket at June 30, 2009 03:28 PM (xlYqZ)

45 Yesterday on Brett Baier's show, Mara Liason played Obama-apologist by claiming that Obama didn't really want Chavez crony Zelaya returned to power; he really wanted him deposed, and was happy with the outcome.

Reminds me of all the shills who supported Obama's Iran policy -- no matter what it was. "Noninterference" was the way to go until it wasn't and it was brilliant the way Obama did it, no matter how he did it. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant!

Maybe I, like the last president I voted for, George W. Bush, lack the nuance of Barack Obama, but generally I seem to think that if you support someone, you say so, and if you oppose someone, you say that too.

It's not someone, but something. Suppose you're a Democrat. You have to defend King Barack to your buddies. What principle do you say is involved here? You spent all of your time saying how great Barack was at noninterference and then he pulls this crap with Honduras.

The woman leaves her abusive husband only after she can't keep defending him to her friends.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 30, 2009 03:29 PM (T0NGe)

46 All this "he says x, but means y" is just beyond ridiculous.

They think he's lying to us, but in truth he's lying to them.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 30, 2009 03:31 PM (T0NGe)

47 Its sad when the MSM changed into the Ministry of Truth. They are Obama's willing lemmings.

Posted by: Thomas Jackson at June 30, 2009 03:33 PM (B8gqF)

48 Hitler didn't really mean he wanted to kill the Jews or the Commies or the gays or anybody who wasn't Aryan, right? Isn't this how fascism starts? "It couldn't happen here, so anyone who makes totalitarian moves doesn't really mean it." That seems to be the mentality of your average liberal.

Didn't we (here at AoSHQ) predict the beginnings of 1933 Germany when Teh Idiot One became prez? Is anyone paying attention yet?

Posted by: wherestherum at June 30, 2009 03:33 PM (gofDd)

49 Now does everyone understand why Obama voted present so many times?

Posted by: booter at June 30, 2009 03:34 PM (eimUK)

50 Sorry, teej, I didn't mean any disrespect to veterans. I was thinking in terms of the hardware access, and the ability to at the very least stay on the sidelines, rather than join ACORN's intimidation effort.

Posted by: Methos at June 30, 2009 03:36 PM (wU8X9)

51 Yesterday on Brett Baier's show, Mara Liason played Obama-apologist by claiming that Obama didn't really want Chavez crony Zelaya returned to power; he really wanted him deposed, and was happy with the outcome.

That really surprised me. I know she's reliably liberal but she's usually not a drooling buffoon. Kruathammer and Kristol looked like they were shock when she started selling that crap.

Posted by: DrewM. at June 30, 2009 03:37 PM (iTt2X)

52 The WSJ article is excellent. It points out, as George Will has cited of Carter, Clinton, and most of the Democrats in Congress, that the Left in this country considers living under tyranny to be just another alternative lifestyle.

Posted by: Doc Rochester at June 30, 2009 03:38 PM (aYL9O)

53 >> Long but strong WSJ

I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: Female moron at June 30, 2009 03:39 PM (sey23)

54 Panama is between Honduras and Venezuela. If Hugo touches that, he's a dead man, regardless of who's in the WH.

Posted by: mojo at June 30, 2009 03:39 PM (g1cNf)

55 When it came out during the election that he had argued in favor of killing babies born alive during botched abortions not just once, but three times on the floor of the Illinois senate, isn't that what his supporters kept saying? "Come on! He doesn't really want to kill children!"

So now it's "Come on! He doesn't really want a commie stooge to crown himself dictator for life in Honduras!" or "Come on! He doesn't really want democracy protesters brutally put down just so he can sit for a pointless photo opp with Iran's 'Supreme Leader'!"

When will people stop giving this evil creep the benefit of the doubt?

Posted by: Thor GOL at June 30, 2009 03:43 PM (mJxAd)

It's the Zack Morris foreign policy. Call "TIMEOUT" on the rest of the world, and the world stays frozen while he socializes America to get it back up to speed.

Except for Israel, of course. If he fails at one of his big four goals, he's fall back on an Israeli-Palestinian peace, negotiated solely through Israeli concessions.

Posted by: The Q at June 30, 2009 03:48 PM (pfStM)

57 Isn't this what he did all through the campaign, and is still doing? He says one thing and does the opposite - although, in this case I don't believe that. Maybe that's what his peeps are saying? We should just know, by now, that he's a double-talker and anything he says is a lie.

Posted by: estee at June 30, 2009 03:49 PM (xlYqZ)

58
Muravchik is over-thinking the hell out of Obama.

There is a much shorter, simpler version of what's happening.

Obama has been overusing "I won," and he threatened bank CEOs with pitchfork imagery. He is using his thin election majority as a "will of the people" platform for his assault on the rule of law in this country. This effort is largely unopposed because of MSM support, the make-up of the Congress, and the GOP's inability to respond.

This Zelaya situation is a morality play that puts sharp contrast between the pitfalls of democratic mob rule and the sobriety of a constitutional republic governed by laws.

Obama cannot afford to have people think about the differences between democracy and the rule of law. Even some among the retarded 52 can understand this difference, and those opposed to Obama now have an example to help them formulate how and why Obama must be resisted.

Posted by: MikeO at June 30, 2009 03:50 PM (hz67i)

59 Well, Argentina seems to want to run a diplomatic offensive, if the Drudge link is to be believed. That seems pretty aggressive to me.

Zelaya said OAS chief Jose Miguel Insulza, Argentine President Cristina Fernandez and Ecuadoran President Rafael Correa would accompany him back on Thursday.

"The idea is to create a diplomatic shield," an Argentine government source said.

But Ortez said, "as soon as he enters he will be captured. We have the warrants ready so that he stays in jail in Honduras and is judged according to the country's laws."

Posted by: bill at June 30, 2009 03:51 PM (XzFO1)

60 Allahpundit bought the apologist's line on Sunday:

I guess Team Barry figured that if they didn�t come out loudly against this, suspicions inside the country about the military being in cahoots with the U.S. would fester.

I said in my post about it that I actually believe Obama reflexively takes the anti-Democratic position in any conflict�.period.

I can see that I'm not alone.

Did anyone hear Rush today? He thinks another reason Obama supports Zalaya is because he plans to have the constitution changed to extend his term, too. How does el Presidente Obama for life sound?

Posted by: Nice Deb at June 30, 2009 03:55 PM (rKb8z)

61 here is that Drudge link ... sorry, gettin' lazy, and a little buzzed on honey wheat
http://tinyurl.com/m32js4

WRAPUP 3-Zelaya has foreign backing for return to Honduras

Posted by: bill at June 30, 2009 03:55 PM (XzFO1)

62 That first paragraph was supposed to be indented, and italicized.

Posted by: Nice Deb at June 30, 2009 03:55 PM (rKb8z)

63 "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

Joanna-

Please remember that I said it first.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at June 30, 2009 03:59 PM (aYL9O)

64 Most Dims have been running with a wink and a nod for years.

Since the MSM never question them, they can actually run on policies that are 180 degrees out of phase with what they truly believe and how they will govern.

I have had libtard friends that paper over any campaign rhetoric or actions they disagree with by their candidate by saying "well, the Republican's made him/her say/do that".

So, by now they're conditioned not to think about what the Dim says or does because they "know" what he/she really thinks.

This's how we wound-up with a flat out socialist/communist(?) in the White House.

He's destroying the country. They can see him destroying the country. But they know what he really thinks and they know BO would never (willingly) do such a thing.

And then, of course, BOOOOOOOSH! and the evil Rethuglicans are to blame.

Posted by: The Commissar of Love at June 30, 2009 04:21 PM (ao5cQ)

65 How does el Presidente Obama for life sound?

Two words: Casus Belli

Posted by: Methos at June 30, 2009 04:27 PM (wU8X9)

"when he seems to support the unconstitutional dictator-for-life bid of a Hugo Chavez footboy, he really strenuously opposes it."

I am glad that actions speak louder then words because his actions betray his words every time he opens his mouth.

Posted by: John Cheshire at June 30, 2009 04:48 PM (+CWAL)

67 twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom

Posted by: toby928 at June 30, 2009 04:56 PM (PD1tk)

68 How does el Presidente Obama for life sound?

That idea sounds short lived.

Posted by: trainer at June 30, 2009 05:31 PM (6hpWr)

69 25

#8 and the proportion of our armed forces that are loyal to their oathes. The latter is where I draw my hope.

Don't forget those of us that are prior service. Our oath still stands. So does our love for our country and it's constitution.

I thank all current and former oath keepers for their service. When the time comes many of us life long civillians will stand with you.

Check out the Oath Keepers:

http://tinyurl.com/c53eoo

Posted by: Scott J. at June 30, 2009 05:33 PM (/bVuS)

70
I have said it before and I will say it again, Obama's actions make sense if you look at them from the proper perspective. OBAMA is a COMMUNIST. Or you can call him a communist sympathizer if that makes you feel better. For the record: his mommie was a commie, his daddy was a commie, his good friend Bill Ayers is a commie, most of the important influences in his life were commies as he readily admits and brags about. Now look at his actions vis a vis Iran, Honduras, Venezuela etc through the prism of his communstic views and tell me what he has said now makes perfect sense!
The main-stream-media made it a point to label anyone or any institution that tried to examine Obama's commie roots as a wacko or hater in the election (and ever since) but that does not change the facts. Reality is what it is.

Posted by: Hughie at June 30, 2009 05:40 PM (iGqcN)

71 Starting to miss GWB?

Ever since January 20.

Posted by: Reiver at June 30, 2009 05:40 PM (k/zpx)

72
> I do not understand why it is that Obama cannot merely say he supports democrats and liberalizers and reformers, if he does indeed support them, nor why he cannot say he opposes tyrants and leftist coups, if he does indeed oppose them.

Obama doesn't want to see tyrants overthrown becuase he sees it as setting a precedent that could apply to him.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at June 30, 2009 06:01 PM (3GL9B)

73 What supports the policy and goals of the leadership of the party is good, comrade. What does not support the policy and goals of the leadership of the party is bad. The party is the will of the people. The supreme leader is the will of the party. Obama does not want to be president, he wants to be leader of the party, rather like Stalin. And everyone who votes for and supports him is basically OK with that. Self-delusion only goes so far, Ace. At some point, people have to know who and what they are supporting. And the only conclusion I can draw is that they just don't care, as long as they think they will benefit.

Posted by: BattleofthePyramids at June 30, 2009 06:04 PM (ZGWaA)

69 How does el Presidente Obama for life sound?

That idea sounds short lived.

Barack doesn't want to be president for life, that is why Barack will run for a third and fourth term. He wants to give people the impression he is president for life when in reality he is dead set against it.

Posted by: Maura Liason at June 30, 2009 06:19 PM (f0I0I)

75 Keep repeating it until it sinks in: Obama supports dictatorial rule because he wants dictatorial rule. I bet the dems in congress don't even grasp they are giving up power.

Posted by: pete and repeat at June 30, 2009 07:19 PM (iY+86)

I bet the dems in congress don't even grasp they are giving up power.

They should remember Trotsky.

Posted by: Jonathon E. at June 30, 2009 07:22 PM (dQdrY)

77 Commie thug and drug ties. Sounds like the kind of guy Barry would be backing.

BOGOTA � The regime that ousted Manuel Zelaya in Honduras claimed Tuesday that the deposed president allowed tons of cocaine to be flown into the Central American country on its way to the United States.

"Every night, three or four Venezuelan-registered planes land without the permission of appropriate authorities and bring thousands of pounds ... and packages of money that are the fruit of drug trafficking," its foreign minister, Enrique Ortez, told CNN en Espanol.

"We have proof of all of this. Neighboring governments have it. The DEA has it," he added.

U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration spokesman Rusty Payne in Washington said he could neither confirm nor deny a DEA investigation.

Zelaya was traveling from New York to Washington and could not immediately be reached to respond to the allegations.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 30, 2009 07:24 PM (XxFkK)

Commie thug and drug ties.

See? Just follow the money and any WTF situation becomes understandable. Maybe shitty, but understandable.

"Zelaya was traveling from New York to Washington and could not immediately be reached to respond to the allegations."

Man, wouldn't want to be him when Rham says, "Where is my product, bitch? BO is jonesing in there.

You know the chainsaw is gonna come out.

Posted by: Jonathon E. at June 30, 2009 07:32 PM (dQdrY)

Congratulations to the Honduran patriots who defied the Communist effort to steal their country. Shame on the communists Zelaya, Chavez, Castro and Obama.

Posted by: Ronald R. at June 30, 2009 08:18 PM (ol3NY)

80 Oh, come now.

Obama wouldn't know a principle if it bit him in the ass.

He would just assume it was an over-enthusiastic reporter.

Posted by: Merovign, Strong on His Mountain at June 30, 2009 08:31 PM (or0jG)

81 Not only did Mara say that, she was visibly exasperated when Bill Crystal insisted on believing the words coming out of Obama's mouth.

She also said that ABC couldn't be criticized ahead of time, they might do a balanced job with Obama and his health care proposal.

I wish Bret Baier would find time to ask her to follow up with these two assertions.

Posted by: waelse1 at June 30, 2009 08:32 PM (7a+So)

82 This guy's ego make Ghaddfi's look modest, and the media and his followers are only make it worse (someone made an Obama dildo for pete's sake).

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Posted by: cheshirecat at June 30, 2009 09:39 PM (hugcz)

83 #43 Circa (Insert Year Here)

Granting that Venezuela does not have direct access to Honduras to invade; but what makes you think that "pursuant to a request from the OAS" that Buraq Hussein would not order the Navy to transport Venezuelan "peacekeepers" and give them air support?

On another site, before Buraq declared that Zelaya was the "legitimate" ruler of Honduras; I was pushing things for effect when I mentioned that the USS NEW YORK [the assault transport with some of the steel salvaged from the WTC built into her bow stem] commissions November 8, and that I could see him ordering her on just that mission as her maiden voyage. Now, I can really see him doing just that and considering it a two-fer; supporting a Communist takeover and at the same time insulting Americans and those who died 9/11.

Zelaya says the he is coming back to Honduras, backed by the OAS and Argentina, to re-take the presidency. Honduras says that if he does, he will be arrested. Honduras will not be safe until Zelaya finds himself with his back to a Honduran wall being offered a blindfold and a last cigarette.

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