1 What more do you expect out of prez shitstain?  I guess the rule of law doesn't matter.

2

Arrest and execute. Problem solved!

I doubt Obamma has the balls to do anything about it other than lodge a strongly worded letter of protest.

3 How is it that the UN assembly can "demand" that this guy be given his seat back, but can barely write a sternly written letter when N. Korea launches nukes or threatens to blow us up.

4 I still don't think Obama wants Zelaya reinstated, you're missing the nuance.

5 Take Zelaya promptly to a firing squad.  It's the only way to be sure.

6 2 opportunities for Obama to come down on the side of the rule of law; and he decided against it each time. Me thinks there is a pattern here.

7 Fortunately, since the drawdown in Iraq, we have troops available to help re-establish Zelaya in Honduras.

8 Our laws.  Our country.  Our firing squad.  UN, suck it!!

9 2 opportunities for Obama to come down on the side of the rule of law; and he decided against it each time. Me thinks there is a pattern here.

Posted by: lorien1973 at June 30, 2009 01:54 PM (IhQuA)

And then there's that foreign policy stuff.

10 Obama's acting with complete consistency. He's pro-authoritarian.  None of that 'will of the people' nonsense.

Keep that in mind for 2012.

11 I am really starting to feel sorry for Gibbs.  I mean really, lying for a liar and doing such a pathetic job of it.  All this guy has to look forward to in the future is being someone's doormat.  He's everything Greasy Joe Biden is; stupid, hesitant is speech, baffoon, but without any power or future.

12 First, the US is insisting that Zelaya is still President and must be returned to office.

First, Honduras is insisting that Zelaya is a would be tinpot dictator and that Obama should fuck himself.

FIFY.

13 So this is all the smart foreign policy the libs told us about.  Fantastic.  Fantastic.

14

normally i don't root for people to get killed.....who am i kidding, i am always pulling for it... i hope the hondurans show the Obama/Castro/Chavez alliance that no one gets to mess with their domestic affairs and shoots the president upon his return, or at least puts him on trial then executes him

 

the sad thing is that Honduras has always been a good ally of america, so now we are essentially fucking over the democratically elected officials, the supreme court, and the new president who is from the old presidents party, for a wanna be el jefe. I don't think the hondurans will forgive us any time soon.  I am still spellbound that Obama is taking such a hard line against the Hondurans who are true to their constitution and in favor of preventing a new caudillo.

We just created an new enemy in our hemishphere

Let's check the score board of relationships obama has tarnished

Iranian Democrats, the UK, Honduras, Columbia, and potentially South Korea.  And only in 6 months

15

I am really surprised that Zelaya is not taking a dirt nap after coming down with .45 caliber lead poisoning. Really, it's the best way to deal with someone who thinks that they are above the law. Pissing off Hugo + Fidel is simply a bonus.

I had my doubts about how Honduras would turn out when I was there 25 years ago. They seem to have found their way better than we have, in some respects.

16 I wonder what Ace is going to say about this on his blog?

17 You guys don't understand. I owe Hugo Chavez, he gave me this great book at the OES, so I am returning the favor. Besides, I didn'tinterfere with Iran because the US has a history of interfering in Iran, whereas we have absolutley no history of interfering in Latin America..

18 Speaking of foreign policy savants, where the hell has Plugs Biden been lately? 

19 What would Putin do?

20 I still don't get Obama's argument that Zelaya is president.  The laws of Honduras clearly ban him from public service for ten years for the attempt to extend his rule.  There's really no IFs about it.

What is his angle on this?  It's really bizarre to me that he would take such a brazenly wrong position.

21 This just shows the innate superiority of the Mussolini method or the Ceaucescu method of dealing with tyrants. The alternative, exile, didn't work with Hitler, didn't work with Khomenei, didn't work with Ceaucescu....it barely worked with Idi Amin.

22

Yeah but republicaans love tinpot dictatorz LOOK AT SADAMMN HUSSIEEN!

23

How is it that the UN assembly can "demand" that this guy be given his seat back, but can barely write a sternly written letter when N. Korea launches nukes or threatens to blow us up.

I'm thinking that would be because the majority of the UN is made up of tyranical thugs. I hear they dig Obama. So we have that going for us.

24 As soon as Zelaya enters Honduran territory he should be shot on sight.

25

Re: Obama and Honduras -

Once again, Michael Ramirez nails it:

http://tinyurl.com/nmv5ja

Stay turgid, morons

26 My goon squad will provoke the military even before Zelaya is arrested. My photographers will supply the feed to the press of the coup killing "civilians."

27 I'm more interested in what Sarkozy has to say about this, since apparently he's the leader of the free world at this point.

28 What is his angle on this?  It's really bizarre to me that he would take such a brazenly wrong position.

Posted by: Tamale Ranger at June 30, 2009 02:06 PM (z4rvy)

Just trying to establish a precedent for himself in '16.  Didn't one of the Supremes make a comment (in the firefighter case) that if there's no precedent in this country, we should look abroad for guidance?

29 CB

Speaking of foreign policy savants, where the hell has Plugs Biden been lately? 

He's going to Iraq.

http://tinyurl.com/lv7gqh

Maybe he'll push his three state solution?

30

I recommend that on this Saturday, instead of the rah-rah-Washington-D.C.! events your local Democratic machines have set up, we should attend Tea Party protests instead.

I'm bringing a Honduran flag.

31 This is not your Father's Marxism

32 I think the reason Zelaya put it to a referendum, is he's also got 52% that think scraping their Constitution is a "Good Idea".

Release the Dogs of War!

33

Zimriel

I recommend that on this Saturday, instead of the rah-rah-Washington-D.C.! events your local Democratic machines have set up, we should attend Tea Party protests instead.

I'm bringing a Honduran flag.

 
Be careful for white supremacists lurking in the shadows.  You know they are trying to infiltrate the Republican party though the tea parties, right?

do we use sarc tags here?

34 At some point they wont be able to untwist themselves from the ideological knots they're making for themselves. Let's hope it begins  before November 2010.

35    Keep that in mind for 2012.

Exactly.  Everything this shitball hussein obama is doing is in preparation for the 2012 'elections'. 

36 I wonder what Ace is going to say about this on his blog?

Posted by: John Galt at June 30, 2009 02:03 PM (SDkq3)

That joke never gets old.  Admit it.

37 My friend in Venezuela said he is happy that Honduras is having nothing to do with charismatic socialists and has "taken out the trash."

38   Everything this shitball hussein obama is doing is in preparation for the 2012 'elections.

Fortunately, I think our military like Obama less than Honduras' military likes Zelaya.   Plus their oath is to defend the Constitution, not the presidency.

39 Obviously the Hounduran Supreme Court didn't have enough wise Latinas with the richness and experience that a wise Latina possesses.

40 Just how far will Obama go here?

This is incredible stuff.

Just look at the balls on this kid. He's just throwing his junk out there, staring everyone right in the face and asking us "What are you looking at?"

The further he takes it, the longer the MSM covers for him, and the further the left in general sinks into denial about the ideology of their leadership; the harder the fall from grace will be when reality finally demands broad notice.

41

How many of our old fair weather friends -- can you say NATO? -- who tried to hamstring us the last couple of decades are thinking "oh, shit" right about now?

The world is gonna look awfully scary without the US shield protecting the sorry pieces of shit. Good luck with that, Euroscum.

42 I am about this  --><-- close to taking the gas pipe today. My country has lost its freaking mind. I am not exaggerating when I say that I'm scared shitless about what's going to happen over the next couple of years.

43 Barry loves "strong man" figures of authority.  Let's us have some more of this "smart diplomacy"..

44

Blame the U. S. or not, Honduras is the archetypical banana republic.  Time for the electorate to grab themselves by the bootstraps.  What is this, about the 397th change in government since 1821?

45 Farmer Joe, we can't start eliminating ourselves.  Do a google search and see if there's an electronic gas pipe placebo you can soothe yourself with in the interim.

46 Major Garrett of FNC live Twittered (Tweeted?) today's White House briefing and has these two notes on Honduras.

Teach ---> taught
Tweet ---> twat

47 He supports totalitarians. If they're Marxist, even better.

By the time a majority of Americans realize just what Obama is, it might be too late.

48 That the current admin supports Zelaya truly does boggle the mind.  Rule of Law?  Only when it serves the dems.  Kinda like good ol King George huh?

49 Honduras: Fix the problem.
California: Roll up in a ball and piss yourself.

I'm going to experience glorious schadenfreude when that closes down in about 12 hours.

50 39 Obviously the Hounduran Supreme Court didn't have enough wise Latinas with the richness and experience that a wise Latina possesses.

Posted by: The Q at June 30, 2009 02:16 PM (pfStM)

 

what is your address. i think i need to send you money.

51

42, 45 -

Farmer Joe - stay turgid, moron!

 

Do it for the kids!  http://tinyurl.com/m4fpcw

 

52 Rickshaw Jack, King George was at least following British law. Hell, even fucking King Charles was following English law. I don't know how far back you have to go to find an English monarch who cared as little for their own nation's laws as Zelaya (or Pelosi). Maybe John.

53

farmerjoe. i agree. i joke, but i am starting to worry a lot. what is scary to me is that no one will call him on it. no one will say, "hey you remember those pro democracy iranians you wouldn't back for a week using some junk logic....welll why did it take 2 hours for you to be the third person to decry what happened in honduras behind chavez and castro?" again i know i joke about the media, but at what point does alienating our allies, destroying democracies, backing authoritarian regimes in a post cold war world become so dangerous that it may kill some of us.

 

also why is it being called a junta? last i checked the new president is not only an elected official, the next person in line of sucsession, but a member of the exhiled presidents party who has set up new elections for november. If that constitutes a Junta, then it makes it the sweetest junta ever.

54 That joke never gets old.  Admit it.

My stale-joke-fu is strong.  Did someone say fish sticks?

55 14.  Posted by: Ben at June 30, 2009 02:01 PM (wuv1c)

Let's check the score board of relationships obama has tarnished

Iranian Democrats, the UK, Honduras, Columbia, and potentially South Korea.  And only in 6 months

Canada.

56

Obama's also screwed over Israel, but they don't count because they're ... you know.

And he's been pretty condescending to Gordon Brown too. Mind you, the rest of Britain can't stand him either, so I give him a pass on that one.

57 If Obama gets reelected in 2012, what do you think the odds are that we experience the same thing in 2016? 

58 France and Germany don't exactly have bff status anymore either. 

59 More Historic Moments from the First (half) Black President

Obama aligns with lawbreaker ...

sides with Castro and Chavez and UN

Encourages breaking constitution to establish thugocracy.


"Evil eye" for our allies, but does the soul brother shake with Chavez, bows to the Saudi's, and is blind to Iran's murder of protesters.

Future historic moment headline: "First Manchurian Candidate Evah"

60 All this political nuance is giving me a fucking headache.  At least Bush consistently came across as a cowboy.  Obie doesnt cant even make it to waterboy standards.

61

If Obama gets reelected in 2012, what do you think the odds are that we experience the same thing in 2016? 

http://tinyurl.com/9v8ku6

 

62

Where the hell is Hillary?  Isn't the Secretary of State sort of supposed to have something to do with foreign policy and stuff like that?  I wonder if she is sandbagging Obama?  And which possibility is weirder:

a) Obama didn't check with anyone before he jumped up to defend a guy who was trying to set himslef up as a dictator,

b) Obama did check, and then went ahead and defended him anyway.

c) Obama did check, but since State is full of Castro moles, they gave him the dictator-wannabee's spin on things.

So it was you 52% in the reality-based community what elected these foreign policy heavy-hitters, huh?

63

Speaking of foreign policy savants, where the hell has Plugs Biden been lately? 

They gave him a Rubics Cube and told him it was a magic artifact recoved in Iraq.  If he solves it, a genie pops out- but it only works if he remains totally silent.

That was a week ago, so don't expect to hear from him for another month or two.

64 42 I am about this  --><-- close to taking the gas pipe today. My country has lost its freaking mind. I am not exaggerating when I say that I'm scared shitless about what's going to happen over the next couple of years.

Posted by: Farmer Joeat June 30, 2009 02:16 PM (z4es9)

 

Don't get ulcers, Farmer Joe. Give them.

65

Where the hell is Hillary?  Isn't the Secretary of State sort of supposed to have something to do with foreign policy and stuff like that?  I wonder if she is sandbagging Obama?

Nope.  Hillary has already gone on record opposing the ouster of the Chavez wannabe.

66
BO is all about form over substance.

He doesn't believe in democracy, voting rights, etc - he believes in the process as a dog and pony show.

Just like most dictators like to have show elections. A 98% "vote" ratifies the tyrant.

This is the common thread between Iran and Honduras. In Iran those damn demonstrators disturbed the orderly "democratic process". In Honduras those damn military guys followed their Constitution and disturbed the "democratic process".

We need to be very aggressive during the next few election cycles about vote fraud and the integrity of the vote. BO is very consistent and this shows us what he really thinks about the vote in a democratic republic.

67 If Obama gets reelected in 2012, what do you think the odds are that we experience the same thing in 2016?

50-50, at worst.  Or best, depending on your point of view, I guess.

68 I wonder what Ace is going to say about this on his blog?
Posted by: John Galt

Who is Ace?

69 I guess the US will be sending troops to Honduraus to affect regime change.

70

I wonder what Ace is going to say about this on his blog?

"Obama trips over his own dick, and the intricacies of foreing affiars, but mostly his own dick."

71 The speed in which this administration jumped to Zelayas defense speaks volumes about who they are going to stand up for.

72 at what point does alienating our allies, destroying democracies, backing authoritarian regimes in a post cold war world become so dangerous that it may kill some of us.

Yeah, I mean, there's that. There's also the complete absence of anything remotely resembling clear thinking on the economic front. There's pending back door legislation that could bankrupt ordinary middle class citizens (that cap-n-trade california housing code thing), and above all there's the fact that everybody - EVERYBODY - knows that this guy is lying out his ass, but a majority of people seem to think it's okay.

I mean, what's been dawning on me over the past couple of days is the fact that the President isn't just a lefty or a naif. The guy is actually out to hurt ME. Over the past six months, I've chalked a lot of what he's done up to incompetence and leftard ideology, but I'm really starting to think that there's a consistent plan here.

73 I'm guessing they won't have a lot of takers on the offer to pilot the plane that attempts to bring a wannabe dictator back into the country.

74 Farmer Joe, we can't start eliminating ourselves.  Do a google search and see if there's an electronic gas pipe placebo you can soothe yourself with in the interim.
Posted by: CB

World of Warcraft.

75 27 I'm more interested in what Sarkozy has to say about this, since apparently he's the leader of the free world at this point.

Posted by: Eleven at June 30, 2009 02:08 PM (7DB+a)

Must. Credit. AmishDude.

Just kidding, but I said this in a previous thread.  Sarkozy is leader of the free world, although I'm guessing that David Cameron will be, before too long.

76

If Obama gets reelected in 2012, what do you think the odds are that we experience the same thing in 2016?

 

What do you mean "if"?  It's not like you'll be allowed to vote from the mass graves...unless you're voting Democrat, of course.

77 Wall Street Journal basically supported the military action, but rest of the world is mostly against it.   All "news" orgs were calling it a coup, but I see Drudge at least put "coup" in quotes.

None of the news orgs put much if any emphasis on Zelaya breaking the constitution and trying to make an end run to proceed with the "crime".

A very odd coming together against what seems to be a proper and legal action by Honduras to prevent another Chavez. 

Why does Zelaya support seem so organized and WRONG?

78 I'm guessing they won't have a lot of takers on the offer to pilot the plane that attempts to bring a wannabe dictator back into the country. Posted by: slug

If it's a 727, just point it towards Antarctica, set the autopilot, and quietly D.B. Cooper yourself out the back ramp.

79 So now zero wants to be the strong latino emperor - for the all new and improved communist latin america union that's all...........vomit. Can we start beating the dumbasses that voted for "this" yet?

80

Let's check the score board of relationships obama has tarnished

You know the biggest problem I have with these lists is they always leave most of it out.

In 6 months he's managed to piss off practically everyone.

81

Why does Zelaya support seem so organized

THAT is a damn good question.

82

2016: US military (what's left of it after the mass exodus due to Afirmative Action officers) will be posted out of country. BO might need to import troops from his Latin American dictator buds to quell disorder.

Could happen.

83 Why does Zelaya support seem so organized

Evidently they know some good community organizers.

84

Voter fraud is a big factor. The dems have known for decades that subverting the democratic process is much cleaner and easier if you manufacture votes. Hell, how many times have we seen a dem get elected with more votes than there were registered voters? Then the judges that you own can feel OK with declaring the fraud a winner, and the majority of the country says "Well, if the judges OK's it, I guess it was legit."

I think 0bama is all concerned because some people woke up and said enough is enough. Hugo was printing up the ballots, what could possibly go wrong? Hell, the ACORN crooks are going to be doing the counting for our census. They sure have a reputation for honesty, don't they?

Honest votes will ruin their plans.

85 When you're as narcissistic as Teh One laws don't mean as much as they do to the rest of us.  That, and the whole Marxist thing...

86 Rush was just talking about the whole Obama staying in power thing today. Someone e-mailed him and said he was scaring people with scenarios that couldn't possibly happen. Rush basically told him bull shit.

87 Its amazing how Obama is turning foreign opinion against us by his support for despots and dictators.  How can America support a man who promotes tyrants?

88 The vast majority of Obama voters don't even know this stuff is going on.  They have no interest, they do not ponder current events.  They voted for this fraud because they bought into his hype and it made them feel good. 

89 ABSOLUTE WORST president we have evahhhh had, bar none. Once I thought it was Jimmaa Cottahah, but that was then and this is now.

G_d help us, he's got 3 1/2 more years. Pray daily for our deliverance!

90 When you're as narcissistic sociopath as Teh One...

There, fixed it for ya, #86.

91
> Should be interesting to see how far Obama is willing to go to vindicate Zelaya's claims.

Don't worry. By now, even Hoduras realizes that Obama isn't going to back up his (foreign policy) words with anything resembling consequences.

Domestic stuff - that's another story. The dude is from Chicago...

92
> 90 ABSOLUTE WORST president we have evahhhh had, bar none. Once I thought it was Jimmaa Cottahah, but that was then and this is now.

Posted by: TennDon

Nope, Woodrow F. Wilson is still worse by leaps and bounds. Until Obama starts locking up political prisoners (like WFW did among other amusements - see the Wilson chapter in "Liberal Fascism") we're not even in the same ballpark.

BTW, the "F" stands for 'effin.

93

 

Yes, but we survived Wilson.  Not sure we'll really survive Obama.  Not as a democracy (republic) anyway. 

 

 

94 Farmer Joe,
I know it looks bad, but I also know you live in Massachusetts. (I had a different name at the first moron meetup.)

We are surrounded by people who never have their worldview challenged.

I saw two pro-troops bumper stickers today on the way to work. Always makes me smile. That's about as far as anyone would dare go, lest she gets her tires slashed or lose her job.

I gotta get outta this state.

95

People need to clean up the mess in thier own states, not haul ass from them.

 

 

 

 

96 You know, I may be coming in to this story a bit late, but can anyone answer for me these two questions: (1) Does the Honduran constitution provide for removal of the president by impeachment instead of through military action such as was done here, and (2) if so, why wasn't that procedure followed here?

97

Admin spoke out so rapidly on Honduras in part to beat back rumors US was involved in coup.

Yeah, he "meddles" so fucking well. Especially when he speaks up for brutal dictators in Iran and Honduras.  Gawd forbid he should be accused of supporting a coup.

Fuck, 2012 cannot come soon enough.

98 At least this makes total sense of that pic of Obama and Chavez giving each other the homeboy fistlock. 

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