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| Iran: Our Election Was Fine, Move AlongColor me shocked, but Iran's Guardian Council says the partial recount shows Ahmadinejad won. State television reported that the Guardian Council presented the conclusion in a letter to the Interior Minister following a recount of a what was described as a randomly selected 10 percent of the almost 40 million ballots cast June 12. Press TV said "few or no errors" were found. ...The recount conducted Monday had appeared to be an attempt to cultivate the image that Iran was seriously addressing fraud claims, while giving no ground in the clampdown on opposition. Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and the Council already had pronounced the results free of major fraud and insisted that Ahmadinejad won by a landslide. And even if errors were found in nearly every one of the votes in the recount Ahmadinejad, according to the government's count, still would have tallied more votes than Mousavi.Iranians do not seem to be impressed. Clashes reported in Tehran after people take to the streets protesting the Guardian Council's rulingSecretary of State Hillary Clinton says the Iranian government faces a "huge credibility gap" with its people. Actually, the word she should have used is "legitimacy". Of course the Obama administration can't talk about legitimacy because they want desperately to talk to the mullahs. You remember the mullahs, of course. They are the ones who made Neda's father go on TV and blame protesters for her death. Yeah, let's talk to those guys. Comments1
Everything looks good to me.
Posted by: Jennifer Brunner at June 29, 2009 02:44 PM (5aa4z) 2
Yeah, way to support the people there, Hillary.
Posted by: Honduras at June 29, 2009 02:46 PM (wU8X9) 3
Whew--that was close. But everything's fine now, I see. Posted by: jimmy carter at June 29, 2009 02:48 PM (8PGHt) 4
They use harsher language for Honduras for enforcing their own constitution.
Posted by: UofC Conservative at June 29, 2009 02:50 PM (3FkM/) 5
"state television" Which network though? CBS? MSNBC? CNN?
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As I said in Cairo, Michael Jackson is one of my action heroes.
Posted by: Barry Odouche at June 29, 2009 02:58 PM (FcR7P) 8
That's enough for me.
And when Clinton speaks of a 'credibility gap", I think she is thinking of herself.... I am still convinced Obama cheated her out of the nomination. tink Posted by: Tinkerbella at June 29, 2009 02:58 PM (8CGTW) 9
O/T: Wow the president is getting an F in this poll. People are not happy:
"Obama Shows Flexibility on Health Care" " How would you grade Obama's handling of health care reform? F55% D12% A12% B12% C9% Posted by: ??????? at June 29, 2009 02:58 PM (zplc6) 10
So, boys and girls, we live in a world where Jon Bon Jovi has done more to support the Iranian people than has our useless POTUS.
Food for thought. Posted by: Y-not at June 29, 2009 02:58 PM (sey23) Posted by: ??????? at June 29, 2009 03:00 PM (zplc6) 12
Y-not, don't make me choose between hating Nobama and hating Bon Jovi! It would have been better if he had just had a picture of Dinner Jacket on the screen while singing Wanted: Dead or Alive. Posted by: lurker at June 29, 2009 03:01 PM (AqLUZ) 13
Speaking of "credibility gap", the same could be said of the current US Congress.
Posted by: GarandFan at June 29, 2009 03:01 PM (C3okI) 14
Y-not put me some knowledge. What did Jon Bon Jovi do?
Posted by: Methos at June 29, 2009 03:03 PM (wU8X9) 15
Maybe the mullahs won't talk to Secretary Clinton because they view the pork belly future as an unclean derivative.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 29, 2009 03:03 PM (jMk+v) 16
I knew last night when John Batchelor had a guest on who said "well they squelched that" in reference to the uprising that it would now be a non issue. Batchelor tried to get the guest to talk about the lack of support from the US and he said "John I won't go there". Wonder why everyone is suddenly afraid to express their opinion unless they see it as the popular opinion?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 29, 2009 03:04 PM (zplc6) 17
It would have been better if he had just had a picture of Dinner Jacket on the screen while singing Wanted: Dead or Alive.
Posted by: lurker at June 29, 2009 03:01 PM (AqLUZ) I'd like to see Toby and Willie reprise "Beer for My Horses." Posted by: Y-not at June 29, 2009 03:04 PM (sey23) 18
Any chance that in 2010 American voters will regard the failure of the Iranian democracy movement as Obama's failure to seize an opportunity to support reshaping the Middle East?
(btw, GWB said this would happen in Iran after Iraq succeeded.) Posted by: Big Daddy at June 29, 2009 03:08 PM (Oinvr) 19
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Posted by: MrsPaulsFishSticks at June 29, 2009 03:08 PM (iYbLN) 20
>>14 Y-not put me some knowledge. What did Jon Bon Jovi do?
He covered "Stand by Me" with a well-known Iranian singer to show support for the Iranian people. Tinyurl is seizing up on me, but YouTube has the video. Posted by: Y-not at June 29, 2009 03:08 PM (sey23) 21
Iran's Guardian Council…
Yes, color me shocked.
The Supreme leader picks the 12 member ruling council. The ruling council selects the candidate list and narrows it down to two choices. The public gets to vote on the two choices. And they still have to cheat to get the results they want???
Folks, this is not an election. I am not to hard on Obambi on this score. Neither one of these two people are worth a shit and the election was never a real election to begin with.
Now if the people we demonstrating and going on about getting rid of the Supreme Leader AND the ruling council that would be a different story. Posted by: Vic at June 29, 2009 03:08 PM (5ynkO) 22
check out how those Honduras who we immediately condemned and demanded they reverse their actions treated the protesters in honduras - vs the regime in Iran who we defend from "interference and meddling" to this day:
Zelaya was arrested and flown to Costa Rica hours before a rogue referendum he had called in defiance of Honduras' courts and Congress. His opponents claimed the vote was an attempt to remain in power after his term ends Jan. 27. Micheletti said he would serve only until the end of Zelaya's term. "We respect everybody and we ask only that they respect us and leave us in peace because the country is headed toward free and transparent general elections in November," Micheletti said. His designated foreign minister, Enrique Ortez Colindres, told HRN that no coup had occurred. Ortez said the military had merely upheld the constitution "that the earlier government wanted to reform without any basis and in an illegal way." Troops with riot shields surrounded the presidential palace and armored military vehicles were parked in front, but soldiers made no attempt to clear away about 200 pro-Zelaya protesters who were burning tires and other debris, as well as blocking streets with downed trees and billboards. "We want our elected and democratic president, not this other one that the world doesn't recognize," said Marco Gallo, a 50-year-old retired teacher. Most people in the capital went about business as normal. Nearly all businesses were open and traffic flowed normally aside from a small part of downtown Tegucigalpa. The Honduran constitution limits presidents to a single four-year term and forbids any modification of that limit. Zelaya's opponents feared the referendum was part of an attempt to try to run again, just as other Latin American leaders have removed constitutional clauses designed to prevent strongmen from extending their rule. Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at June 29, 2009 03:08 PM (5r0Tz) 23
HEADLINE: NOVEMBER 12, 2012
USA: Our Election Was Fine, Move Along State television reported that the Elections Czar presented the conclusion in a letter to the House and Senate Czar following a recount of a what was described as a randomly selected 10 percent of the almost 100 million ballots cast November 6. I Won TV said "few or no errors" were found. ...The recount conducted Saturday had appeared to be an attempt to cultivate the image that the USA was seriously addressing fraud claims, while giving no ground in the clampdown on opposition. Supreme leader Barry "Duh One" Soreto and ACORN already had pronounced the results free of major fraud and insisted that Barry won by a landslide. And even though his opponents name was selected in nearly every one of the votes in the recount, Barry, according to the Czar's count, still would have tallied more votes than... Posted by: scituate_tgr at June 29, 2009 03:09 PM (OQFFO) 24
Me thinks maybe the Iranian people need to institute their own version of the "Ryan Doctrine". Used the first time by Clancy's John Ryan on an Iranian thug coincidentely enough.
Posted by: teej at June 29, 2009 03:10 PM (lG7ds) 25
This is totally o/t, but I can't help it...need to vent.
Check out this MSNBC internet headline about one impact of the recession. You have to read down into the story to figure out they are mainly talking about "illegals". The story flows seamlessly from illegals to legal immigrants, granting equal victim footing to both categories. So, they've morphed from illegal immigrants, to undocumented workers, to immigrants right before our very eyes. Immigrants fighting hard to stay in U.S. Posted by: The Hammer at June 29, 2009 03:11 PM (YBTwf) 26
Sooooo, let me see if I've got this right: The Vapid One© flip-flops on domestic issues but remains steadfast in his insistence to open a diplomatic channel with a hostile regime? Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 29, 2009 03:12 PM (ZGhSv) 27
First!
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Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at June 29, 2009 03:08 PM (5r0Tz)
We demand the return of the democratically elected President of Honduras and the repression of the 99% of Hondurans who are just going about their business. Posted by: Barry "Il Du-Che'" Obammer at June 29, 2009 03:13 PM (5aa4z) 29
Now if the people we demonstrating and going on about getting rid of the Supreme Leader AND the ruling council that would be a different story. Posted by: Vic at June 29, 2009 03:08 PM (5ynkO) ------------------------------------------------------ see my post #24 Posted by: teej at June 29, 2009 03:17 PM (QdUKm) 30
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Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at June 29, 2009 03:08 PM (5r0Tz)
We demand the return of the democratically elected President of Honduras and the repression of the 99% of Hondurans who are just going about their business.
Posted by: Barry "Il Du-Che'" Obammer at June 29, 2009 03:13 PM (5aa4z) Exactly. What a fuckign joke. Some republican needs to grow some balls and point that out. the facts are on their side bigtime to draw a parellel and point out the idiocy and internal contradictions of the "Obama doctrine" Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at June 29, 2009 03:19 PM (5r0Tz) 31
All the snark here reminds me of why I keep reading Ace. Nice to read. sorry for the many copypasta's I did if they affected the readablity here. Hope I kept them in the Iranian threads. Here is one last one for the lulz (its from a persian news link Fars, got it off the anon newsfeed) "Hussein Taeb, commander of Basij forces, claimed today that "according to recent polls 85% of the people trust the election process and the remaining 15% will be resolved with the Guardian Council's announcement." Taeb did not say how these polls were conducted."
Posted by: ArandomPerson at June 29, 2009 03:19 PM (MSMPS) Posted by: Y-not at June 29, 2009 03:21 PM (sey23) 33
Folks,
this is not an election. I am not to hard on Obambi on this score.
Neither one of these two people are worth a shit and the election was
never a real election to begin with. It is not about the two douchebag candidates. It is about the Iranian people.
Now
if the people we demonstrating and going on about getting rid of the
Supreme Leader AND the ruling council that would be a different story. The protests were headed in that direction until the violence started paying off dividends for the Mullahs. Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 29, 2009 03:21 PM (IqfKc) 34
Neither one of these two people are worth a shit
Well, it seems as though one of them is willing to challenge the status quo at least. It's a start. Posted by: Y-not at June 29, 2009 03:23 PM (sey23) 35
Re: The One's new set of gonands re: Honduras Obama wants to set a precident about restoring power-hungry, constitution ignoring Presidents back to power (for obvious reasons...) Posted by: GregInSeattle at June 29, 2009 03:23 PM (Ia36B) 36
@6: I'm running out of seriously worded letters.
You morons got any advice? ----------- "On Beyond Zebra" by Dr. Suess. Plenty of fresh letters in that one. Posted by: Anachronda at June 29, 2009 03:25 PM (1OYcp) 37
On the Honduras issue isn’t it “ironic” that Il Douche is on the same side as Chavez? Is it irony, a coincidence, or is it because they are both communists? Posted by: Vic at June 29, 2009 03:25 PM (5ynkO) 38
So they forced the Father to say his daughter was killed by fellow protesters ... sure ... hundreds of protesters beaten and killed as they turned on themselves.
Why can't that happen here with some of our left wing whacks? "Cindy Sheehan stabs Sean Penn, later that night Bawbwa Streisand is strangled by Letterman during taping" film at 11. Posted by: bill at June 29, 2009 03:26 PM (XzFO1) 39
Neither one of these two people are worth a shit*
*This comment copied from election thread of November 3, 2008. Posted by: Plagiarism Police at June 29, 2009 03:26 PM (5aa4z) Posted by: 12 Inch Middle Finger at June 29, 2009 03:28 PM (n2vBd) 41
On the Honduras issue isn’t it “ironic” that Il Douche is on the same side as Chavez? Is it irony, a coincidence, or is it because they are both communists? I'm kind of wondering what happened to his new America doesn't get involved in other countries' spats policy? Posted by: estee at June 29, 2009 03:30 PM (xlYqZ) 42
Barry: Well if Supreme Leader is okay with the election results then I have no problem with them either. Honduras on the other hand....
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 29, 2009 03:33 PM (1Jaio) 43
So, boys and girls, we live in a world where Jon Bon Jovi has done more to support the Iranian people than has our useless POTUS.
That's just great. I'd ask one of you morons to shoot me, in the head. But I'm afraid one of y'all would oblige me. So go take the ice cream cone away from Joe "Sheriff" Biden and tell him its time to earn his keep. Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at June 29, 2009 03:34 PM (1hM1d) 44
that book Chavez gave Obama was really titled Everyone Poops!
Posted by: 12 Inch Middle Finger at June 29, 2009 03:35 PM (n2vBd) 45
"Cindy Sheehan stabs Sean Penn, later that night Bawbwa Streisand is strangled by Letterman during taping" film at 11.
I'll be in my bunk. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 29, 2009 03:40 PM (oT+Ek) 46
"Ryan Doctrine"
Is that where Chavez & Clark light up the Mullias house to guide in the bunker buster from 80,000 feet? Posted by: Paladin at June 29, 2009 03:44 PM (2X4q0) 47
Oh, Iran had an election? How nice! I guess they really are a Democracy now, good for them! OK, now back to the important stuff, building my shrine to Michael Jackson. Do you think I need more glitter on teh glove? Posted by: 52 percenter at June 29, 2009 04:02 PM (p9lFf) 48
WSJ headlines it ... I'll take WSJ over Obamassiah.
Honduras Defends Its Democracy Fidel Castro and Hillary Clinton object.Greg from Seattle is right ...Obama supports dictators breaking constitution and setting up dictatorship. (I copied the headline, but no way to reduce font except subscript tag) Posted by: bill at June 29, 2009 04:08 PM (XzFO1) Posted by: bill at June 29, 2009 04:09 PM (XzFO1) 50
#48: SLOTH ur doin it wrong. Really: You could've retyped the headline with less effort than you spend explaining why you didn't retype the headline. Posted by: FireHorse at June 29, 2009 04:31 PM (jMk+v) 51
@50: Really: You could've retyped the headline with less effort than you spend explaining why you didn't retype the headline.
That's just crazy talk! Posted by: Anachronda at June 29, 2009 06:08 PM (1OYcp) 52
So the Mullahs have just told the One to go pound sand, and gotten away with stealing an election on a massive scale. Welcome to the new age of American impotence, libs. I hope you like the world your master is creating, because you are going to have to live in it. When Iran completes its nuclear weapons program, and uses it, don't say you weren't warned.
Posted by: BattleofthePyramids at June 29, 2009 06:45 PM (vD0EH) 53
Color me shocked, but Iran's Guardian Council says the partial recount shows Ahmadinejad won.
Yah. And Neda was shot in the back by the US. Not. Posted by: mike at June 29, 2009 08:55 PM (9dSAJ) 54
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