Tick, Tock: 39% Now Blame Obama for Economy, a 12 Point Jump in a Single Month<br>Politico: "Obama's Poll Numbers Start to Wilt"

Tick, Tock: 39% Now Blame Obama for Economy, a 12 Point Jump in a Single Month
Politico: "Obama's Poll Numbers Start to Wilt"

39% is about the size of the conservative and conservative-leaning segment of the electorate, so this means the conservatives and leaners have soured on Obama. Perhaps not surprising, but it is nevertheless good news. Maybe we haven't made enough headway with true moderates/mush-heads yet, but at least we finally have everyone on the team back on the team.

The mush-heads aren't going to be terribly difficult to flip, either. They are pretty non-ideological, so our ideological arguments won't work on them. But Obama's ideological arguments won't work on them either. Their sympathies turn on simple circumstance -- what is the current economic health of the nation? -- and with unemployment projected to remain high, they'll be increasingly unimpressed by Obama's pecs and "first-rate temperament."

Despite signs that the recession gripping the nation's economy may be easing, the unemployment rate is projected to continue rising for another year before topping out in double digits, a prospect that threatens to slow growth, increase poverty and further complicate the Obama administration's message of optimism about the economic outlook.
The likelihood of severe unemployment extending into the 2010 midterm elections and beyond poses a significant political hurdle to President Obama and congressional Democrats, who are already under fire for what critics label profligate spending. Continuing high unemployment rates would undercut the fundamental argument behind much of that spending: the promise that it will create new jobs and improve the prospects of working Americans, which Obama has called the ultimate measure of a healthy economy.
"Our hope would be to actually create some jobs this year," Obama said in an interview with The Washington Post in the days before taking office.

For those following Rasmussen's "Presidential Approval Index," it turned negative for the first time over the weekend at -2, and now stands at minus one. Once again I don't put much stock in it, because the measure is new and sort of gimmicky and I don't have any feel for what the historic average of the rating is.

Thanks to AHFF Geoff.

Oh: And 43% want ObamaCare to go forward, now.

The percentage of people who think (at the very least) it should be put on hold until the economy improves? 44%.

Politico: I wonder when David Axelrod will shout them into changing their headline.

Eroding confidence in President Barack Obama’s handling of the economy and ability to control spending have caused his approval ratings to wilt to their lowest levels since taking office, according to a spate of recent polls, a sign of political weakness that comes just as he most needs leverage on Capitol Hill.
The good news for Obama is that his approval ratings — 57 percent in a Gallup tracking poll over the weekend — remain comfortably high by historical standards for presidents.
But the trend lines among a variety of polls over the past several days are unmistakable: Independents and even some Republicans who once viewed him sympathetically are becoming skeptical, and many people of all stripes are anxious about economic and fiscal trends.
Obama’s approval rating has dipped below 60 percent on other occasions according to Gallup, but while those slumps lasted only a day, this one appears to be more persistent.
...
Andrew Kohut, director of the Pew Research Center, said the Obama administration should look at the results of the center's recent poll and others “as a warning sign” but added that the new numbers were “not an indication of a loss of fundamental political support.”
“The real driver is not the president’s personal popularity,” which remains robust, Kohut said, “but faith in him to deal with the nation’s number one problem” — i.e, the economy.

"Unsustainable," a pundit recently called the divergence in Obama's personal support and the lower support for his actual policies. Eventually the two will come into sync, and it won't be at the higher level of personal approval Obama currently enjoys.

Posted by: Ace at 02:12 PM

Comments

1
Obama's Stimulus Act

Mission Nothing Accomplished

This should be the GOP's new meme.

Posted by: Unicles at June 22, 2009 02:16 PM (Bmhek)

2 OBAMA HAS JUMPED THE SHARK

Even Politico is piling on:

Eroding confidence in President Barack Obama’s handling of the economy and ability to control spending have caused his approval ratings to wilt to their lowest levels since taking office, according to a spate of recent polls, a sign of political weakness that comes just as he most needs leverage on Capitol Hill.

The good news for Obama is that his approval ratings — 57 percent in a Gallup tracking poll over the weekend — remain comfortably high by historical standards for presidents.

But the trend lines among a variety of polls over the past several days are unmistakable: Independents and even some Republicans; color: rgb(0, 66, 11 ! important; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-weight: 400; font-size: 13.0167px; position: static; background-color: transparent;"> who once viewed him sympathetically are becoming skeptical, and many people of all stripes are anxious ! important; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-weight: 400; font-size: 13.0167px; position: static;"> about economic and fiscal trends.

Obama’s approval rating has dipped below 60 percent on other occasions according to Gallup, but while those slumps lasted only a day, this one appears to be more persistent.

So is the intensity of partisan reaction to Obama, who ran on the promise of softening ideological divisions and unifying Americans. On Sunday, a Rasmussen Reports tracking poll found that 32 percent of Americans strongly approved of the president while 32 percent strongly disapproved.

(they got the ras numbers wrong but oh well)
Gallup remains at 57% today.

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at June 22, 2009 02:17 PM (5r0Tz)

3 Wait til they get their tax bills next couple of years coupled with a job killing environment and regulations.
Wait til the 79 weeks of unemployment run out and ARMs reset at higher interest rates.
RNC- close the GD primaries for victory in 12'.

Posted by: jjshaka at June 22, 2009 02:17 PM (B5Tae)

4 Koreans, Iranians, and now the Poles... when am I gonna catch a break?

Posted by: Barack "Toasted Almond" Obama at June 22, 2009 02:17 PM (SCcgT)

5 "Our hope would be to actually create some jobs this year," Obama said

Priceless.

Posted by: toby928: fagotty faux-con fragging race traitor at June 22, 2009 02:18 PM (PD1tk)

6 "The likelihood of severe unemployment extending into the 2010 midterm elections and beyond poses a significant political hurdle to President Obama and congressional Democrats"

Yeah, it's called "Fuck you assholes, I'm not voting for any of you!" Not to worry, they'll all campaign under "It's all Bush's fault!"

Posted by: GarandFan at June 22, 2009 02:18 PM (C3okI)

7 Considering that poll takers lean left, I'd be willing to bet that the numbers are even worse for Obama. He's been pictured scowling of late. Ya think he's trying to scare us into submission?

Posted by: erp at June 22, 2009 02:21 PM (BDRHK)

8 As this recession becomes less about the subprime meltdown and more about runaway spending and crushing debt, Obama will own this thing more and more.

Just think, if the governement would have done nothing, except allow more drilling, and the banks would have allowed mortgage defaulters to remain in their homes by becoming their landlords and requiring fair market rent, housing values would have been somewhat preserved, we wouldn't have spent over $1trillion of money that will have to be paid back to the Chinese with substantial interest, and we'd be at the tail end of this thing.

How many of our dear representatives have ever taken an economics class?

Posted by: I have a Jalen Rose jersey at June 22, 2009 02:21 PM (4yrb2)

9 Obama's like the dorky white guy at a dance party. When he decides to move he look like an idiot and brings the collective coolness down a gillion notches. When he gets an easy opportunity to do bang the hot chick, he hides in the corner with his dick in his hand.

Posted by: I have a Jalen Rose jersey at June 22, 2009 02:25 PM (4yrb2)

10 yea Ace!

I'm telling ya morons, this is the moment we will look back upon as when the
OBAMA JUMPED THE SHARK
narrative took hold - no more "OBAMA IS THE GREATEST AND MOST POPULAR PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME SO YOU MUST SUBMIT"
That narrative is dead - polls just dont support it anymore and this is teh beginning of the new narrative.

OBAMA JUMPED THE SHARK TODAY!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at June 22, 2009 02:26 PM (5r0Tz)

11 The MSM keeps parroting BHO's high rating.

Does anyone know what Bush 41 & 43 and Clinton's were during this time in their administrations?

It really ticks me off that they never give any other numbers for context.

Posted by: LouisianaLightning at June 22, 2009 02:29 PM (nyxv/)

12
Barack "Just Words" Obama

Just words?

Yep. Just words.

Posted by: Unicles at June 22, 2009 02:30 PM (Bmhek)

Our hope would be to actually create some jobs this year," Obama said

Boy, that would be a change for once.

Posted by: Serf-er Dude at June 22, 2009 02:31 PM (9VUSX)

14 The proper Obama meme is simply:

Obama: Worst. President. Ever

Oh yeah - he's worse than Carter was.

Posted by: Naqamel at June 22, 2009 02:31 PM (UMwMT)

15 @11 About the same I believe.... 55ish. Or so I've read hearabouts.

Posted by: Eleven at June 22, 2009 02:32 PM (7DB+a)

16 Eroding confidence in President Barack Obama’s handling of the economy and ability to control spending have caused his approval ratings to wilt to their lowest levels since taking office

We prefer the term "ungrowing" as opposed to "wilt".

We can haz eyze cream now?

Posted by: The LA Times at June 22, 2009 02:34 PM (iTt2X)

17 I'm wilting, wilting!

Posted by: Jane at June 22, 2009 02:34 PM (FH+Mg)

18 Let's see how well the treasury auction goes this week. If it goes really really bad - Gird your loins. Zero is going to tank.....Hard!

Posted by: paranoid polly at June 22, 2009 02:34 PM (YLNjm)

19 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at June 22, 2009 02:35 PM (iTt2X)

20 Posted by: Serf-er Dude at June 22, 2009 02:31 PM (9VUSX)

Didn't Obama already claim he saved or created some jobs this year? Or am I misremembering?

Posted by: DCA at June 22, 2009 02:36 PM (B/ptC)

21 Unsustainable...
That's what you are...
And forevermore, though near or far
That's why darling, it's regrettable
That a toolbag so unsustainable
Should run this country
Unproductively too...

Thanks, I'll be here all week. Tip your waitress and try the veal.

Posted by: Nat King Cole at June 22, 2009 02:38 PM (MLaAD)

22 @21- Thank you, Nat.

Can I start you off on another?

Douchebag roasting on a pollster's fire
Disapproval nipping at your toes....

Posted by: buster mcDissenter at June 22, 2009 02:41 PM (oVAAp)

23
I wonder how bad the numbers really are, if they've gotten to the point they have to admit this much. Anyhoo, pollsters suck. F*ck them and the phone bank they rode in on.

Posted by: Dang Straights at June 22, 2009 02:51 PM (Haq+B)

24 May his numbers continue to wilt like arugula in the sun.

Posted by: loppyd at June 22, 2009 02:52 PM (oqAUJ)

I'll be back next year. You can reach me at the grave site of Ronald Reagan. Oh yea, Employment is coming with me, as well as GDP. I got a note from Hope and Chang they wanted to let everyone know they were protesting in Iran, and that they the never heard of a Obama. Oh yea, before I say goodbye, Transparency went missing in January, has anyone seen her?

Posted by: The US Economy at June 22, 2009 02:55 PM (n2vBd)

26 18 Let's see how well the treasury auction goes this week. If it goes really really bad - Gird your loins. Zero is going to tank.....Hard!

Not expecting this. Gov has used up half of a 300 bill earmark to buy treasuries. They have held up remarkably well but Polly, I agree, sometime perhaps this fall the water tower collapses.

Here's the real deal. You can talk all the smack, kind words, hope and change bullshit for only so long. Sooner or later, you gotta put up or shut up. Deliver the fucking goods. That time approaches now and blowing smoke up peoples' backsides cannot last. Everything in our leaders life points to a complete lack of personal courage, and a self centered narcissistic theme that points to utter unconsciousness.

Wake up! You ain't calling the world shots. The world is coming to you.

Posted by: Don't Blame Me, I Voted for the American at June 22, 2009 02:55 PM (Ua9hB)

How long before the MSM decides to no longer report on polls?

Posted by: eddiebear at June 22, 2009 02:56 PM (wnU1W)

28 I wonder what color Obama's magic mood hair is today?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 22, 2009 03:01 PM (AJ4xq)

29 What Rasmussen's "Presidential Approval Index" does tell us is that, given the approval/disapproval spread of +7 and a strong approval/strong disapproval of -1, much of Obama's support is soft (particularly the support keeping his head above water - 50%). In other words, from here, it appears more likely that his overall numbers are more likely to be going down than up.

Posted by: gm at June 22, 2009 03:02 PM (koK9l)

24 May his numbers continue to wilt like arugula in the sun.

What happens to a stimulus deferred?

Does it wilt up

like an arugula in the sun?

Or talk 'engagement' with Iran --

And then run?

Does it stink like Congress' halls?

Or crust and botox over --

like a Speaker Pelosi?

Maybe it just sags

like a Rasmussen poll.

Or does it explode?

Posted by: Langston Hughes at June 22, 2009 03:02 PM (SOf9N)

31
How many of our dear representatives have ever taken an economics class?

The filthy fucking banksters own the gummint. Hank, Chris, and the boys were bailing out their friends. They got their buddies well, and managed to avert the biggest banking collapse in the history of the world. That's all. They still got a long term convalescing patient thats far from well or healthy. They couldn't give two shits about economics.
Audit the FED.

Posted by: Don't Blame Me, I Voted for the American at June 22, 2009 03:04 PM (Ua9hB)

32 bah. I hope Gabriel doesn't read my "more likely" double down in that last sentence.

Posted by: gm at June 22, 2009 03:04 PM (koK9l)

Geeze guys, cut me some slack......

It's getting harder and harder to just vote present.

Posted by: Barry O at June 22, 2009 03:07 PM (UWLFs)

#26

The only thing is, just like the insolvent banks, the shell game can only go on so long and too many are catching on to it. So many different things are going to blow up in their face at the same time that they aren’t going to know what hit them.

Posted by: paranoid polly at June 22, 2009 03:09 PM (YLNjm)

unless i'm mistaken the mortgage crisis was never resolved or fixed. so where are all those bad assets? who baught them? whats going on with that shit?

Posted by: formerparatrooper at June 22, 2009 03:14 PM (n2vBd)

Langston Hughes

I am impressed!

Posted by: loppyd at June 22, 2009 03:15 PM (oqAUJ)

#31

Also, if the markets don’t spew lava like a huge volcano, timmy geithner will be a very lucky man.

Posted by: paranoid polly at June 22, 2009 03:15 PM (YLNjm)

38 Some minor good news for CA.

Los Angeles mayor Antonio Villaragosa announced he will NOT run for governor next year. Now if the rest of the Dems announced they won't run either, we might have a tiny chance to save this state.

Posted by: kbdabear at June 22, 2009 03:17 PM (cGmnP)

39 DOW down 200 pts now on fox bus. ouch timmy grab your asbestos umbrella

Posted by: formerparatrooper at June 22, 2009 03:18 PM (n2vBd)

40 35

unless i'm mistaken the mortgage crisis was never resolved or fixed. so where are all those bad assets? who baught them? whats going on with that shit?

They're still there, the "mark to market" rules were changed to allow the banks to keep those off the books as loss write-downs.

Posted by: kbdabear at June 22, 2009 03:20 PM (cGmnP)

41 There must be some new strategies being planned, I haven't seen the trolls out in force today like they've been around the last few days.

Posted by: kbdabear at June 22, 2009 03:22 PM (cGmnP)

42 Obama is at the top of a 100 foot diving board and has to dive in the round pool only 10 feet wide and 10 feet deep.. I would love to be there and hear the SPLAT! It would sound even worse if he actually missed the pool! This is what he has to do to get anybody to buy the treasury auction bonds. Unless noboby buys them, and the Fed. has to!

Posted by: Mystry at June 22, 2009 03:22 PM (dIHlE)

43
> The mush-heads aren't going to be terribly difficult to flip, either. They are pretty non-ideological, so our ideological arguments won't work on them. But Obama's ideological arguments won't work on them either. Their sympathies turn on simple circumstance -- what is the current economic health of the nation? -- and with unemployment projected to remain high, they'll be increasingly unimpressed by Obama's pecs and "first-rate temperament."

Continuing a point I made in a comment on the previous post (#46 in the "Obama: A Man Tyrants Can Do Business With" thread), this shows why we have to fight Obama on everything. Since his policies can't work in the real world (they're socialist, after all) we have to slow things down so that the non-ideological types (Ace's beloved mush-heads) can see they don't work before the policies become so embedded in the system that it's hell to extract or fix them. (as in Social Security).

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at June 22, 2009 03:24 PM (7Takl)

44 @41 they took a beating over the weekend. i saw some this morning-still getting a beating.

Posted by: formerparatrooper at June 22, 2009 03:24 PM (n2vBd)

45 #41 Trolls are like a migraine headache. It goes away for a while, and then it comes back for a little while!

Posted by: Mystry at June 22, 2009 03:32 PM (dIHlE)

46
obama still waiting to see how things pan out in Iran

will decide next move when he knows what to take credit for

Posted by: Unicle tweets at June 22, 2009 03:33 PM (Bmhek)

47 What Obama's trained seals at CNBC aren't trumpeting:

From Bloomberg

Insiders Exit Shares at the Fastest Pace in Two Years

Those who know what's going on aren't buying any garden tools for the Green Shoots

Posted by: kbdabear at June 22, 2009 03:36 PM (cGmnP)

Barry can't be blamed for anything. Don't you understand he's been a victim his whole life.

"The decades-long effort to protect our children from the harmful effects of tobacco has emerged victorious," Obama said at a signing ceremony in the White House Rose Garden.

Obama said almost 90 percent of people who smoke began at age 18 or younger, snared in a dangerous and hard-to-kick habit.

"I know — I was one of these teenagers," Obama said. "So I know how difficult it can be to break this habit when it's been with you for a long time."

Whhhaaaaaaa....poor widdle Barry. Those cigarettes just jumped into his mouth and lit themselves. I'm surprised he didn't say that he inherited his smoking habit from George Bush.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 22, 2009 03:43 PM (1Jaio)

49
> 14 The proper Obama meme is simply:

Obama: Worst. President. Ever

Oh yeah - he's worse than Carter was.

Posted by: Naqamel

Woodrow F. Wilson was worse that Carter or Obama because WFW accomplished things. Bad things. There was a reason Harding campaigned successfully on the promise of "Return to Normalcy"

btw, the "F." is for 'effin

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at June 22, 2009 03:45 PM (7Takl)

50
> 19 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Jimmy Carter

Yes, damn it.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at June 22, 2009 03:45 PM (7Takl)

51 39% Now Blame Obama for Economy and the other 61% are spending too much time watching MSNBC and reading the New York Times.

Posted by: ADK46er at June 22, 2009 03:54 PM (uymlc)

Eventually the two will come into sync, and it won't be at the higher level of personal approval Obama currently enjoys.

I think it will be even lower, because I think his proposals are articially more popular than they would be if he himself were not popular.

Posted by: A Stoner at June 22, 2009 04:05 PM (/ZX77)

53 A Stoner,

You're absolutely correct. The "it's cool to be for Obama" factor means the squishy middle will tell a pollster what they think the pollster wants to hear.

The same was true in the opposite direction with Bush. Because it was uncool to like Bush more and more people were swayed not to support policies they otherwise preferred.

When the rock hits the pond, I predict enormous ripples. Or nipples. Either way.

Posted by: Nom de Blog Getting Distracted By Thoughts of Boobies at June 22, 2009 04:11 PM (1Bods)

54 "...but at least we finally have everyone on the team back on the team..."

Not yet, you don't. His Dreaminess is still better than the Xristianist knuckledraggers.

Oh wait. You said "everyone on the team." Nevermind. Does not apply.

Posted by: Parker, Noonan, Buckley, & Frum at June 22, 2009 04:19 PM (rZ235)

55 Unemployment isn't your friend; except, perhaps if you are trying to save the Republic, and rally, civilization as we know it...

Posted by: flooflyparisparamus at June 22, 2009 04:29 PM (59Rtb)

56 really, not rally... OK, rally, too.

Posted by: flooflyparisparamus at June 22, 2009 04:30 PM (59Rtb)

57 At Trader Joe's I finally saw argula. It's lettuce for people with too much money.

Posted by: EBJ at June 22, 2009 05:16 PM (ocHBO)

58 At some time you got to leave the pep rally and play the game.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at June 22, 2009 05:21 PM (TUWci)

59 You're great in the locker room, Mr. President, and your reflexes might die hard, but you're weak when you put your spikes on.

Posted by: Sam at June 22, 2009 07:04 PM (aJ6rs)

So the Japanese are smuggling 135 billion worth of USG bonds into Switzerland to dump them. What do they know that we don't?

Probably that Obama is a complette, utter loon.

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Tick, Tock: 39% Now Blame Obama for Economy, a 12 Point Jump in a Single MonthPolitico: "Obama's Poll Numbers Start to Wilt"

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Tick, Tock: 39% Now Blame Obama for Economy, a 12 Point Jump in a Single Month
Politico: "Obama's Poll Numbers Start to Wilt"