1

Rich Lowry responded -

"Andy, whatever policy differences we have with him, Obama surely would rather have a free Iran than a dictatorial, anti-American one.

Well, I for one am not sure Obama would rather have a free Iran. It ruins his "Obama saves the world" Plan. And, if he does prefer an free Iran - would it kill him to say so? Just so we will know for sure what the heck he is thinking?

2

Its a strength to be willing to side with those who hate everything the US stands for as opposed to supporting those who wish increased freedom and liberty?

 

What is clear is Obama would be no dofferent from the mullahs if he could exercise this power.

 

His ineptness, ideology, arrogance, and incompetence are on display once again when even the dhimmicrats can sense what is the right thing to do before Obama can act.

Oh for the days when we could look forward to the competence of Carter, the honesty of Clinton, the charm of Nixon, and the clear thinking of Wilson rather than deal with this chimp community organizer.

 

3 Yeah, and only 3 Years and 212 more days of this dog shit.

He was far from perfect, but I sorely miss Bush.

4 Shortened: Obama hates freedom

5 ace - eleventy!!!

hehe

OBAMA HAS JUMPED THE SHARK

6 The writings of Obama's mentors say that America is not exceptional.  This is the key ingredient to understanding Obama.

We are sorry for being so arrogant in the past and we have no special hold on freedom to offer the Iranian protesters.

7 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Where's Obama eating lunch today?

8 I wish Obamas policies on economic spending were as niggardly as are his policies on the freedoms of individuals.

9

The left especially, but also the right, have chosen since before the election to ignore the facts of Obama's associations and to somehow conclude that despite years of very close relationships with the likes of Ayers, Rev. Wright, Kalidi, Davis and several other radicals, that Obama himself had somehow managed to remain uneffected by these, his mentors. 

I wonder whether the picture is becoming clearer now?

10

"The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep's throat, for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as his liberator, while the wolf denounces him for the same act, as the destroyer of liberty. Plainly the sheep and the wolf are not agreed upon a definition of the word liberty; and precisely the same difference prevails today among human creatures."

- Abraham Lincoln

11 Who cares! He is so dreamy...oh, when is he going to make another trip to Hawaii and splash around in the crystal blue waters so we can melt like ice cream in the warn sand drooling over his manly pecs?

12
The last thing hussein obama and the rest of the trash on the left wants to see is democratic government spreading from Iraq and Afghanistan.  They would rather see a few million dead Iranians than one free election there.

13

"We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home."

- Edward R. Murrow

14 Wait until the MSM notices that Obama's put on all those extra pounds, sits in front of the TV most evenings, and doesn't even take out the trash anymore. Like, when was the last time he brought them flowers?

15

"Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation, are people who want crops without ploughing the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning; they want the ocean without the roar of its many waters. The struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, or it may be both. But it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand; it never has and it never will."

- Frederick Douglass

16 Ice cream always makes things better.

http://tinyurl.com/mrueaj

17 Thanks to Bush for continuing to spread freedom around the Middle East.

18 Barry's always been good at playing both sides of the street.  PRESENT!

19 @1 "Rich Lowry responded -

"Andy, whatever policy differences we have with him, Obama surely would rather have a free Iran than a dictatorial, anti-American one."

Yeah, and McCarthy takes him to task in a follow-up, now posted on The Corner.

20 "America is a Nation with a mission - and that mission comes from our most basic beliefs. We have no desire to dominate, no ambitions of empire. Our aim is a democratic peace - a peace founded upon the dignity and rights of every man and woman."
- George W Bush

21 Freedom?!?  That a Yang holy word.

22 "Everywhere that freedom stirs, let tyrants fear."
- Bush 43

23 The last thing hussein obama and the rest of the trash on the left wants to see is democratic government spreading from Iraq and Afghanistan.

There's a quote from Jimmah Carter to the effect that he prefers to deal with dictators, because they don't have to answer to the masses. Which, on its face, is true -- they're easier to get an agreement out of, because they don't have to consult with anyone. Unfortunately, their agreements are meaningless, as their primary goals are their own power and aggrandizement.

24

"The secret of happiness is freedom. The secret of freedom is courage."

- Thucydides

25 I wouldn't call it strength for him to be silent and hope that his preferred outcome emerges. It would be strength if he did express what he believed - his extreme leftist ideology loud and clear - but as McCarthy said, that would be political suicide. So it's not strength, it is weakness. Political weakness.

26

“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.”

- Albert Camus

27 Rich Lowry, demonstrating more of the fine, inside-the-beltway political analysis that drove me away from NRO.

Jonah, Stein, VDH, and McCarthy are good. The rest, though . . .

28 #19

I don't know about Andy's statement. Just as everyone assumed Bush was a dumbass( or was he an evil genius, I guess it depends on the day), it seems to me that the default assumption is that Obama is a calculating genius.

My take,he's like every other liberal who dreams big but refuses to think things through, and when confronted with the reality he'd rather plug his ear, close his eyes and shout at the top of his lungs to make sure he can't hear anything else.

Rather than being an intellectual juggernaut, he's a political naif who's stumbling along, learning on the job when it's time to lead.

29 I think that one reason that Obama fails to condemn sheer evil when he sees, as in Iran, North Korea, and the Russian invasion of Georgia, is that Obama does not see himself as the protester seeking liberty but rather as the thug beating the protester down, or more specifically, as the beaurocrat who orders the thug to beat the protester down.  Bolton was on Beck this morning and described Obama as a narcissist.  Obama thinks that in any rational world, his obvious superiority would be so apparent that any protesters against him would necessarily be irrational and thus would need to be beaten down.  He can clearly see that a superior being, such as himself, Kim Jong Il, and Former President Putin, may encounter resistance from the ordinary man which can not be allowed to prevent the coming uptoia.  If a few eggs get broken, there is still alway the hope that they will change into an omlette. 

30

Obama believes by being silent he encourages freedom.  By not condemning the violent acts of dictators he enhances freedom.   Obama hates freedom, he hates democracy.  He is the bastard of communit parents, raised by communists, and has always associated with Marxists.

 

The only thing that surprises me is that hasn't apologized to Tehran and offered aid to them.

 

President Chimpy makes one long for the bravery and strength of Jimmy Carter, the integrity of Clinton, the resolutness of JFK, the realism of Wilson, and the love of the Constitution of Lincoln.

31 I completely agree with Andrew McCarthy's take on it in the quote above.

He has expressed my opinion exactly.

32 Posted by: The Great Satan™,

Keep this up and people will start calling you Gurney .

33 His first political ambition was to be mayor of Chicago, the boss of all he surveyed; he has had to settle for the broader but less complete hegemony of the presidency.

So, he played it left-hand, but made it too far?

34 The man who's so quick to meddle in America's health care system, it's auto industry, and financial institutions doesn't want to meddle in Iran's internal politics.  False hope and change for the worse.

35 The black Ziggy?

36 I think the present-ent is watching very carefully because he may need the knowledge of how to handle this type of situation come January of 2012 after he and acorn and homeland security load up the election to favor himself wildly over any possible opponent. Oh, let's don't forget he has to pass voting rights for prisoners and illegals as well as supress the military before then.

37 It is more than rare that evil presents itself nakedly to the eyes of men. No, evil will always seek to hide itself, be it under the cover of darkness, in a lie or behind a wall of silence. Always evil hides. It does so because it knows itself to be what it is: evil. It knows that if its nature were revealed all would recoil from it and it would have no power.

The value of the American Presidency in international affairs derives in no small measure from its power to adumbrate evil deeds in shadow, and so rob them of the tacit legitimacy that silence confers. Mr. Obama’s initial silence followed by a muted <i>“Tut, tut, my good man!”</i> speaks to, at best his own moral ambiguity, or more frankly, to his own predisposition to befriend the darkness.

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38 The last thing hussein obama and the rest of the trash on the left wants to see is democratic government spreading from Iraq and Afghanistan.  They would rather see a few million dead Iranians than one free election there.

That's certainly true, if going by how they reacted to the Iraq elections, and the wonderful sight of those people proudly casting votes, and holding up their purple fingers.

I remember the left seemed, in fact, slightly repulsed by the whole thing.

I'm beginning to wonder where all the reasonable, patriotic, freedom-loving Democrats have gone.

39

Rich Lowry is a pussy who is usually proven wrong on most of his predictions.  Ever since he wrote a 800 word column explaining what he believed Trent Lott meant in his 20 word birthday greeting he lost me.  

40 The black Ziggy?

Well-hung, with an off-white tan? Given that Ziggy convinces himself that he's Jesus, it seems pretty appropriate to me.

41 Like a leper messiah

42 Obana has always been a political coward. He won't take a stand on any issue that can hurt him politically, unless forced to. He didn't take a stand on immigration reform but tried to swoop in to take credit when legislation was done. He wrote a mealy-mouthed letter concerning the Fannies but took no serious action, just criticize others. Gay issues? half measures. He's a coward.

43 First, Obama likes to execute long-range strategies but suffers from cognitive dissonance when new facts render them inappropriate

First, Obama likes to execute long-range strategies but suffers from cognitive dissonance when new facts render them inappropriate

Obama's a proponent of Alinsky, the concept of the OODA Loop is not in his psyche. I've noticed several times that without a planned and scripted policy scheme, he cannot function well. He comes unglued when sudden events render his plan unusable or obsolete. That's why these foreign events like Iran and North Korea are "distractions"

44 They are digging pretty deep when they come up with this idea ...

Sidney Blumenthal, a top aide in the Clinton White House, may return to government work as a counselor to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

45 19 @1 "Rich Lowry responded -

"Andy, whatever policy differences we have with him, Obama surely would rather have a free Iran than a dictatorial, anti-American one."

Yeah, and McCarthy takes him to task in a follow-up, now posted on The Corner.

Lowry's response is pretty much why I stopped reading the National Review Online.  It's like a whole lot of people - including most on the National Review - simply can't see what is in front of their eyes, because they cannot fathom that we could have possibly elected someone who is this radical, and who really doesn't see freedom the way we do, or care about it.

I wouldn't have fathomed it either, until we actually elected it.  So I just wait for more people to get the gauze away from their eyes.  People are basing their analyses of Obama on premises that are flatly false.  They are projecting their own principles onto Obama, as if he holds them, too.  However, he does not.  He is unlike any  president we have ever had.

As a result, it amuses me no end to see people on National Review and elsewhere - reasonable, thoughtful, intelligent people - approaching Obama as if he, too, were reasonable and thoughtful, and most importantly, as if he were as American in thought as they are.

46
> First, Obama likes to execute long-range strategies but suffers from cognitive dissonance when new facts render them inappropriate.

Excellent observation. And it shows how to fight him.

First, you have to oppose every policy you don't like. Opposition confuses him.

Second, you have to keep fighting. Since Obama is all into the long term stuff, short-term setbacks won't stop him. If you think you blocked something (say health-care nationalization, for example) in the Senate don't think that fight is over. He won't stop. If you've moved on to the next fight, he wins the old ones.

The second point may make it seem like it's impossible to stop him but you have to remember the first point. He doesn't repond well to opposition. So the more he's opposed the less he accomplishes. In other words, it's easier to fight him on 20 issues than it is fight him on 2 or 3.

47

Keep this up and people will start calling you Gurney.........Bill D. Cat

Did I get a little too carried away [pun intended] with my posts?

 

48
> 4 Shortened: Obama hates freedom

Posted by: wHodat

Even shorter: Lefties Love Tyrants.

Blech. It's one character longer. That's ok, in the Obama World that counts as being accurate. Socialist Math!

49 Did I get a little too carried away [pun intended] with my posts?
Not at at all . You've a gift for the appropriate .

50 Thanks Bill. I bet there are others out there thinking, "for the love of God, don't encourage him."

51 "...He is hanging as tough as political pragmatism allows, and by doing so he is making his preferred outcome more likely. That's not weakness, it's strength — and strength of the sort that ought to frighten us."

Wrong. Well, the frightening part is true, but the "strength" attribution isn't.

In this case Obama would be riding on the coattails of history - IOW creating (if you can call actual neglect "creating") a policy subsequent to events rather than driving events via policy. Obama is the malignant witness to a crime. Rather than protect the little old lady in front of him from a mugging, jump ahead to become a tougher target, or even yell at her to not go down the alley any further, Obama would realize the most likely inevitability of events and try to convince the muggers not to attack him.

Some would call that cowardice. It hardly suffices as strength.

52 Scruples? Isn't that those low fat kettle chips?

53

Obama pragmatic?  Who did he throw under the bus on this one?

 

Obama loves despots and worships the Lord of evil.  How else could he have attended Wright's temple of hate for 20 odd years.

 

Tell me when is the last time he attended a church that didn't cover up the image of God?

54

#23, Rob Crawford, it's a good thing I decided to read all the comments before jumping in with my 2 Rial.  I also remember that quote from Jimmy Carter, and I think that it explains everything reasonable people might wonder about the left and their preference for buddying up to tyrants.  Democracy is a messy process, and agreements you reach this year might not stand after the election.  No way to build up any momentum.  The major problem with this approach, from the viewpoint of the Carters and Obamas is that any agreement you reach with tyrants will not stand either, as witness the way that Jimmy put an end to North Korea's quest for nuclear weaponry.  Lowry is wasting his time if he basis his points on Hussein's milk of human kindness.  He thought it would be simpler getting an agreement with the dinner jacket, and the possibility of revolution getting in the way would unsettle all his plans.  He was quite mistaken in believing that his charm would persuade Iran to give up its quest for a nuclear edge.  All he could accomplish, even assuming that they would sit down and talk with him without resistance and insults would be to lead them to hide their nuclear progress.  If he hasn't answered for himself the questions, "What do I do if North Korea nukes Hawaii?" or "What do I do if Iran obliterates Israel?", and if Iran and North Korea don't believe deep down that the answer is "Turn those suckers into radioactive glass, before you take another breath!" then one of them is bound to try it out.

Oh, and I think it's a fine thing to take your kids out for ice cream.  The president is paid to think, and you can think when you're eating frozen treats with your family.  Sometimes you think better and more clearly that way.

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Short version: The guy an asshole.

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And now that he's running it, we're finding him about as successful at knocking down problems as he was at knocking down bowling pins.  Anyone who watched him bowl knows this guy is a stiff, a poser, and a fraud.

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