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$hocking: ABC Employees' Donations Went to Obama by a 33-to-1 Ratio, and Not a Single Journalist Gave to Palin/McCain

Elizabeth Hasselbach maybe, sorta, kinda could be considered a "journalist." If you squint. So, maybe one journalist gave to Palin/McCain.

The tally: 130 to Obama, 4 to Palin/McCain.

The MSM always insists that 1) it has no political bias at all and 2) to the extent they maybe, kinda, sorta have a political bias, they are pros and can keep it under control.

Why would they assert something so ridiculous? If a Muslim group accuses them of exhibiting anti-Muslim bias, they don't pooh-pooh that charge. They immediately have meetings with the group, put a panel on the subject on Nightline, elevate a Muslim journalist to some sort of bias-ombudsman position, etc.

They take such charges of bias seriously, in other words, so long as the charges come from groups associated with the left.

It's only when Republicans charge bias they dismiss the complaints and refuse to make any attempts at amelioration at all.

That demonstrates that their bias against conservatives is very strong, not weak and controllable as they insist. Women, blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, etc. can all charge bias and expect a receptive, if not groveling, hearing.

Only one group gets the "that's absurd" treatment.

They are so biased they know it for damn-sure, and don't want to even give the charge oxygen. And they sure the hell don't want to impose rules on themselves -- a "political minority" watchdog in their organization, for example -- that might actually serve to restrain that bias.

Eh. I abhor them.

Posted by: Ace at 04:18 PM



Comments

1 ABC is part of the Democratic Party.  Why would they give to Palin?

Posted by: wHodat at June 18, 2009 04:20 PM (+sBB4)

2
They're not only politically biased, they are politically active, as proven by their political donations.

Posted by: Unicles at June 18, 2009 04:21 PM (Bmhek)

3
It's okay for George Stuffitupmyass to be a former Clinton hack, but if FoxNews hires Tony Snow...

Posted by: Unicles at June 18, 2009 04:23 PM (Bmhek)

4 I'm boycotting all major networks.  I haven't turned on my TV since the last hurricane threat to FL.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at June 18, 2009 04:23 PM (Slx41)

5 Who is the McCain person mentioned in the post?

Posted by: wHodat at June 18, 2009 04:24 PM (+sBB4)

6

It's worse when you consider how these cocksuckers have little groups and meetings and little marshmallow roasts and little email sessions and little twitter accounts where they talk about how fucked up conservatives are and make little teeny bopper jokes about Larry Craig.

I hate those fuckers, but I hate that lisping walking-turd Eric Alterman more.


Posted by: Rev. Dr. E. Buzz Miller at June 18, 2009 04:25 PM (FPYe+)

7 I do love me a good purge.  When did it happen?

Posted by: Stalin at June 18, 2009 04:25 PM (+sBB4)

8 Lotta good their donations do them. They're polishing the brass on the Titanic.

Posted by: I Am Jack's Raging Bile Duct at June 18, 2009 04:27 PM (8XI4A)

9 ace, please do a counterreport on donations by FoxNews 'journalists'. thanks.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 18, 2009 04:28 PM (VDj74)

10 We now know what we must do for the sake of our nation.

Fire four people.

Posted by: ABC at June 18, 2009 04:28 PM (AZGON)

11 also, why the hell is this info even available? isnt who you donate money to private info?

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 18, 2009 04:30 PM (VDj74)

12

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 18, 2009 04:28 PM (VDj74)

Is FOX doing a broadcast from the White House?  I hadn't heard about that.  Thanks for the heads-up.

Posted by: Fallen Sparrow at June 18, 2009 04:31 PM (SOf9N)

13 palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 18, 2009 04:30 PM (VDj74)

No. It's public. That's why sites like donationreport exist.

palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 18, 2009 04:28 PM (VDj74)

Why? Would it somehow affect the legitimacy of the Obama infomercial?

Posted by: lorien1973 at June 18, 2009 04:32 PM (IhQuA)

14

Hey palin,

Ask Obama to make his donor list available.

Posted by: 3rd_Bird at June 18, 2009 04:33 PM (Mb/1l)

15 I've come to believe that the media have squarely taken on the role of Blanche Maxwell

Posted by: Neo at June 18, 2009 04:33 PM (5d1ix)

16 9 ace, please do a counterreport on donations by FoxNews 'journalists'. thanks.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 18, 2009 04:28 PM (VDj74)

You do it, you lazy ass.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 18, 2009 04:33 PM (FWbHu)

17

also, why the hell is this info even available? isnt who you donate money to private info?

Apparently not simp.  Do you know anything?


 

Posted by: Eleven at June 18, 2009 04:33 PM (7DB+a)

18

also, why the hell is this info even available? isnt who you donate money to private info?

Maybe you should ask the gay marriage opponents.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 18, 2009 04:33 PM (ujg0T)

19 This infomercial will be as honest as a football game where all the referees had money on one team to win.

Posted by: lorien1973 at June 18, 2009 04:34 PM (IhQuA)

20 also, why the hell is this info even available? isnt who you donate money to private info?



You can go to opensecrets.org and look up donors, it's public info.

Posted by: Blazer at June 18, 2009 04:35 PM (+FzLa)

21 Eh. I abhor them.

And more and more of us every day.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at June 18, 2009 04:36 PM (ympAm)

22

" ace, please do a counterreport on donations by FoxNews 'journalists'. thanks."

If it's 50/50, would you shut the fuck up?

Let's examine all three major networks, the ones that broadcast on our airwaves, for free.

I would say that at all three of those networks, the ratio would be 99/1 for Obama.

Do you disagree?

How about at MSNBC? I bet the only one there who donated to McCain was Joe Scarborough.

Who do you think Mary Mapes gave money to in this past election?

How about Rather?

You have to be extremely stupid, or extremely dishonest to not see that the entire television industry is overwhelmingly liberal Democrat, save for one little slice of conservative.

Piss off.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E. Buzz Miller at June 18, 2009 04:36 PM (FPYe+)

23

Here's the list a list of donations from Foxnews employees you ignorant cocksucker.

As you can see, the split is about 50/50 there.  You are a fucking sheep, palin steele, who believes what he hears on TV. 

Now get the fuck out of here you tool.

Posted by: dan-O at June 18, 2009 04:37 PM (teb/C)

24 Posted by: dan-O  Nice.

Posted by: 3rd_Bird at June 18, 2009 04:39 PM (Mb/1l)

25 "ace, please do a counterreport on donations by FoxNews 'journalists'. thanks.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 18, 2009 04:28 PM (VDj74)

You do it, you lazy ass."


ok, fine


breakdown of FoxNews journalists in donations to 2008 elections

McCain/Palin - 99.6%

Obama/Biden - 0.4%*


*Alan Colmes is no longer employed at Fox News.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 18, 2009 04:39 PM (VDj74)

26 palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 18, 2009 04:39 PM (VDj74)

It'd be hard to make a bigger ass out of yourself than you just did.

Posted by: lorien1973 at June 18, 2009 04:40 PM (IhQuA)

27

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 18, 2009 04:39 PM (VDj74)

be sure to thank dan-O @23 on your way out, and don't forget to tip your waitress.

Posted by: Fallen Sparrow at June 18, 2009 04:40 PM (SOf9N)

28

Dumbfuck, go get your goddamn education somewhere else.  It's not our fucking fault you don't know anything.

Stop spamming every goddamn thread stupid fuck.

Posted by: Eleven at June 18, 2009 04:41 PM (7DB+a)

29 They are the lowest of the low in this country.  They are morally equal to pimps and drug pushers on playgrounds.

Posted by: Dan Rather at June 18, 2009 04:41 PM (PDeVA)

30

Actually, it is more skewed towards the Dems:

Total Contribution Dollar Amount to Republicans$261,530
(35% of total) Average Contribution Dollar Amount to Republicans$1,444 Total Contribution Dollar Amount to Democrats$312,651
(42% of total) Average Contribution Dollar Amount to Democrats$1,389

Posted by: dan-O at June 18, 2009 04:41 PM (teb/C)

31 also, why the hell is this info even available?

Unfortunately , it is available ........ maybe some variant of cardcheck would be better , n'est pas ?

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at June 18, 2009 04:42 PM (vKdhq)

32 Boycott ABC's prime time advertisers.

And make sure to email them to let them know you are boycotting them and WHY.

Money talks.

Posted by: shibumi at June 18, 2009 04:43 PM (OKZrE)

33 It'd be hard to make a bigger ass out of yourself than you just did.

Posted by: lorien1973 at June 18, 2009 04:40 PM (IhQuA)


It's P(M)S, he'll find a way.

Posted by: nnptcgrad at June 18, 2009 04:44 PM (Opyrm)

34

Game, set and match to dan-O. 

I love the smell of burnt troll in the morning.  Smells like...victory.

Posted by: Steve the Pirate at June 18, 2009 04:44 PM (W54Uh)

35

Link you pathetic little liar?  I know why don't you make another comment like your "no popular uprising..." comment that made you go running away like a little bitch.  Only this time run from the entire blog for like a week. 

And I know that you don't like to see echo chambers go on, so I suggest the following for your week of exile due to stupidity:  Register at Democratic Underground.  Shouldn't be a problem for you.  I mean you hate echo chambers.  You are non-partisan (HAHAHA), and its Conservatives that are the mean intolerant jerks that don't like to see ideas counter to their worldview.  Why it should be the perfect place for you to debate.  Go on now.  For one week.

Posted by: buzzion at June 18, 2009 04:45 PM (Lrsi6)

36 A story from during the election, July 23, 2008

Putting Money Where Mouths Are: Media Donations Favor Dems 100-1

Posted by: Dan Rather at June 18, 2009 04:46 PM (PDeVA)

37 Here's hoping PS does not have access to heavy equipment - and that he has a "cork fork."

Posted by: angler at June 18, 2009 04:46 PM (Yv052)

38 Dan Rather didn't post that; it's news.  I did.

Posted by: Z Ryan at June 18, 2009 04:46 PM (PDeVA)

39 #33

Yeah, he/she/it keeps upping the ante.  First the infamous "Captain America and moral authority" analogy, than the various missteps on economics and popular uprisings, and now the "OMG, Fox News is full of reich-wingers!!!" gambit. 

Imagine what he/she/it will post tomorrow. 

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at June 18, 2009 04:47 PM (otlXg)

40

Oh looks like dan-o proved you wrong.  I wonder will you show any balls to come comment on this thread again?  Admit you were wrong?  Admit that Fox is more unbiased than other news organizations based on donations? 

I doubt you'll do any of that pathetically stupid.

Posted by: buzzion at June 18, 2009 04:48 PM (Lrsi6)

41 Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 18, 2009 04:39 PM (VDj74)

link?

Posted by: Liz at June 18, 2009 04:48 PM (xVKXy)

42 Bet's that PS doen't show his face around again in this thread?

Or if he does it's with ridiculously over-the-top descriptions of how he and his GF are getting it on? Y'know his main way of fighting.

Posted by: nnptcgrad at June 18, 2009 04:48 PM (Opyrm)

43 They don't want to check bias against Conservatism because they consider it evil, destructive, horrible and wrong. To them, that's like being biased against Hitler. So? who needs a Nazi ombudsman to check bias against such people? Their position isn't just something they agree with, it's right, sane, and the only proper position. To them, conservatives aren't of a different mindset, not confused, misled, or misinformed, they're wicked and awful. From their perspective, they aren't so much biased as failing to be similarly awful.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 18, 2009 04:48 PM (PQY7w)

44 alright, dan-O, you got me. I admit, I am quite shocked by the foxnews breakdown.


Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 18, 2009 04:48 PM (VDj74)

45 But the media are corporate owned and run, and all corporations are for Republicans.

Posted by: typical Hufftard at June 18, 2009 04:49 PM (g/wgk)

46 But the media are corporate owned and run, and all corporations are for Republicans.
Posted by: typical Hufftard

Like in the movies!!

Posted by: Z Ryan at June 18, 2009 04:50 PM (PDeVA)

47 9 ace, please do a counterreport on donations by FoxNews 'journalists'. thanks.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 18, 2009 04:28 PM (VDj74)

I am anal steele, a non-partisan who will remain forever angry that although 95 percent of the MSM is liberal, there are 5 percent who say things that I hate.

We can't have a perfect world until 100 percent of us agree with Obama

Posted by: anal steele at June 18, 2009 04:52 PM (93F13)

48 We can't have a fair world until 100% of the voices allowed to air agree with Obama.

END HATE RADIO AND FAUXNEWS

Posted by: Democrats and the Enforcement Media at June 18, 2009 04:54 PM (PDeVA)

49 It'd be hard to make a bigger ass out of yourself than you just did.

I have complete confidence in palin steele's ability to top that.

Posted by: toby928 at June 18, 2009 04:54 PM (PD1tk)

50 palin steele, I'm shocked that you don't tune in to watch me when I lick my eyebrows after each mention of Obama's name

Posted by: Shep Smith-Olberman at June 18, 2009 04:56 PM (93F13)

51 I have nothing against foxnews. I just hate it when conservatives say it is a balanced channel (which is a joke).

Even MSNBC (which is the liberal version of fox) has a true rightwing guy in Joe Scarborough who has 3 hours of primetime every day.

Fox does not even have one token liberal (Alan Colmes used to occupy that role). They have not one true liberal with a show.

So, its a joke to not realize Fox is completely conservative, just as it would be a joke to say MSNBC is unbiased.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 18, 2009 04:57 PM (VDj74)

52 alright, dan-O, you got me. I admit, I am quite shocked by the foxnews breakdown.

That's because your bias has overtaken your ability to form rational thoughts.  Now that you've been proven wrong (again), go find another playground in which to leave your mindfeces.

Posted by: Slublog at June 18, 2009 04:57 PM (mmfJy)

53 " Now that you've been proven wrong (again), go find another playground in which to leave your mindfeces." - Slublog

Why should I leave? Does my presence or the fact that I challenge your viewpoint intimidate you and make you uncomfortable?

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 18, 2009 05:01 PM (VDj74)

54 You speak out of ignorance and intellectual dishonesty.

Posted by: Democrats and the Enforcement Media at June 18, 2009 05:02 PM (PDeVA)

55 Look, if McCain could swat a fly with Obama's panache, we'd consider supporting him.

Posted by: ABC at June 18, 2009 05:05 PM (5itGq)

56 Why should I leave? Does my presence or the fact that I challenge your viewpoint intimidate you and make you uncomfortable?

No, it's because you're stupid.  I don't like stupid people.  They irritate me.

Posted by: Slublog at June 18, 2009 05:05 PM (mmfJy)

57 Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 18, 2009 04:57 PM (VDj74)

He's like a Terminator.  He can't be reasoned with. He doesn't feel embarrassment, or shame, or curiosity, and he absolutely will not stop. Ever. Until we are bored to death.

Posted by: toby928 at June 18, 2009 05:05 PM (PD1tk)

58 I actually like palin steele. Yea, yea, I know he's obtuse and disingenuous most of the time, but his infamous post #104 should qualify him for permanent moron status, even though he' a left-tard.


Posted by: Blazer at June 18, 2009 05:07 PM (+FzLa)

59 My mind thoughts hurt you!

Posted by: palin steele (the only person on AoSHQ who doens't know what non-partisan means) at June 18, 2009 05:09 PM (iTt2X)

60 Women, blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, etc. can all charge bias and expect a receptive, if not groveling, hearing.

Only weak, liberal, feminist, and/or victim women, Ace.

Posted by: Sarah Palin, Carrie Prejean, Elizabeth Hasslebeck, Condoleeza Rice at June 18, 2009 05:09 PM (YzDEL)

61 58 I actually like palin steele. Yea, yea, I know he's obtuse and disingenuous most of the time, but his infamous post #104 should qualify him for permanent moron status, even though he' a left-tard.

I thought so too until he walked out on us to troll over at Hot Air. We raised him and gave him proper life lessons and he decided we weren't good enough for him. Now he comes crawling back to us after Hot Air caught him looking under the stalls when Meghan McCain went to the bathroom. Now he comes crawling back to us? I think we should bash him with the frying pan and force him to sleep in the garage

Posted by: Ted Striker at June 18, 2009 05:11 PM (93F13)

62

I admit, I am quite shocked by the foxnews breakdown.

 

It's funny that you keep getting "shocked" when your learn the facts, and yet you never seem to stop to wonder if, perhaps, you might not know what you are talking about. Instead  you go right on making yet more silly claims based on zero evidence.

Posted by: flenser at June 18, 2009 05:11 PM (5itGq)

63 yet you never seem to stop to wonder if, perhaps, you might not know what you are talking about.

palin steele:  beta male in the herd of independent thinkers.

Posted by: toby928 at June 18, 2009 05:13 PM (PD1tk)

64

I actually like palin steele. Yea, yea, I know he's obtuse and disingenuous most of the time, but

 

.. he is pretty darn funny at times.Not intentionally, but I'll take my laughs where I can get them.

Posted by: flenser at June 18, 2009 05:14 PM (5itGq)

65 Why should I leave? Does my presence or the fact that I challenge your viewpoint intimidate you and make you uncomfortable?

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 18, 2009 05:01 PM (VDj74)

No, your habit of forgetting to engage your brain before putting your mouth in gear amuses us. It's your habit of opening your trenchcoat and waving your weenie at little boys that makes us uncomfortable

Posted by: kbdabear at June 18, 2009 05:14 PM (93F13)

66

Sickening creatures these "journalists".  They will be the first to go.

Posted by: Secret Squirrel at June 18, 2009 05:17 PM (1WKq7)

67 Golly by gosh I can't even believe I am about to even address that no brained shit stain ps.
Fox is not overwhelmingly conservative. You just saw the data.
Shep Smith. Greta, (who fortunately was won over by Sarah's charms) O'Reilly- now there is a real conservative (cough,cough). Kid.... when you've been beaten over the head 'til you're black and blue, and you still come back for more, that is evidence of supreme idiocy.  

Does my presence or the fact that I challenge your viewpoint intimidate you and make you uncomfortable?

Your unbridled inability to listen, provide factual information, or apply logic is what makes me not only uncomfortable, but perfectly willing to take a wooden spoon to your sorry little butt. I've never appreciated children attending what are clearly adult events. They tend to think only of themselves by screaming for attention at the most inappropriate times.  Now shooo.  Bedtime.

Posted by: Derak at June 18, 2009 05:18 PM (ywmDM)

68 Fox does not even have one token liberal (Alan Colmes used to occupy that role). They have not one true liberal with a show.

Once again palin steele, tune in and watch Anderson Cooper propose to me live on the air. For our honeymoon, we plan on taking a lovely gondola tour up Obama's alimentary canal

Posted by: Shep the Token Liberal at June 18, 2009 05:19 PM (93F13)

69 I read the Fox's contribution list a nd the majority of the Senior Executives are Democratic contributors...i.e. the President/COO, CFO, etc.

Posted by: Cheri at June 18, 2009 05:20 PM (11AYx)

70

Interesting that when palin steele was asked to do his own fact checking, he made up a bunch of numbers that fit his world view.

So ... lazy and stupid.

 

Yup, typical left winger.

Posted by: Warden at June 18, 2009 05:20 PM (QoR4a)

71 do a counterreport on donations by FoxNews 'journalists'.

I have nothing against foxnews.

That's why you put journalists in scare quotes, right, you sad little fuck.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 18, 2009 05:21 PM (UjI2B)

72 Hey, I tried, but facts are hard.

Posted by: painful stain at June 18, 2009 05:22 PM (knHvu)

73 I challenge your viewpoint

Uh, this isn't supposed to mean "talk out of my ass", in case you were wondering. With you, it invariably does. That should tell you something about the utility of your 'alternate' viewpoint.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 18, 2009 05:23 PM (UjI2B)

74 But my dreamy thoughtful hero Obama says the entire Fox network is dedicated to fighting him! He can't be a lying sack of thin-skinned preening shit, can he?

Posted by: painful stool at June 18, 2009 05:25 PM (UjI2B)

75 Palin Steele seems to get some new information every time he comes here.  But even armed with his new knowledge of media bias, he thinks we haven't already heard every stupid fucking thing he has to say from the democrat dominated press.

Posted by: Z Ryan at June 18, 2009 05:26 PM (PDeVA)

76 You keep using the word shocking.
I do not think it means what you think it means.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya de Blog at June 18, 2009 05:27 PM (1Bods)

77

You know what's sad? Even after today, palin steele will walk around for the rest of his life moaning about Fox News ... and pretending that ABC news and the other network news operations are unbiased.

Facts simply don't matter to him. He's too fragile and weak-minded to synthesize the information.

He just says stuff ... and thinks it's true because he said it.

 

Posted by: Warden at June 18, 2009 05:30 PM (QoR4a)

78 percentages involve math and as Barbie Palin Steele said: "Math is hard"

Posted by: Frank G at June 18, 2009 05:32 PM (Aaspy)

79 23   Burn.   Dan-O

Palin Steele 0

Everyone Else   1.3 gazillion

Time to yell uncle, troll.  Or at least roll out of bed and be willing to back up at least one assertion once.

No one can ever possibly beat your record for donuts and you should go out dead last troll of all times like you intended.  That is what you're going for right?  


Posted by: Scorekeeper Actually Getting Embarrassed for Troll at June 18, 2009 05:38 PM (hm0CN)

80 I'm now typing in a Spanish accent.
(And I'm upping my sock puppet number for the week's count.)

I've pwned palin steele so many times it makes me sad.
But I was especially sad to see him cheating on me at HotAir.
It's good to have his distilled stupidity back where it belongs.

Posted by: Nombre de Blog at June 18, 2009 05:40 PM (1Bods)

81 Ace, my man, some really bad examples there. You talk as if there are no conservative women, blacks, hispanics or Muslims. There are and they're not given the same treatment by the media as other women, blacks, hispanics and Muslims because of the fact they choose to label themselves (and in some cases the media does the labeling for them) conservative or Republican. But the way you wrote it made it seem these four groups - and others - are exclusive from the conservative movement. Let's not even entertain that notion, nor use wording, as you might just have, that might prompt others to do so.

Posted by: geewhiz at June 18, 2009 05:40 PM (Q43kq)

82 Palin Steele:

Did you know that Bill O'Reilly's political idol is Robert F. Kennedy?

I think that qualifies O'Reilly as a liberal, even if you don't count his suck-up interview with Obama.

Geraldo Rivera (an Obama and CLinton supporter) is also a liberal, and has a weekend show.

I imagine the democrat executives would put more liberals on, but they are charged by Murdoch with getting ratings and making money, so they know there is no way Fox viewers will tolerate more than what they have right now.

Many conservative web sites I frequent are PO'd at Fox for hiring Geraldine Ferraro, the Kennedy kid, Bob Beckel, Geraldo, and others.

So lighten up, Francis!  You have been shown to know ZERO about Fox and need to do some grovelling.  You were WRONG!

Posted by: Miss Marple at June 18, 2009 05:41 PM (Vli7s)

83 Liberal bias?  What liberal bias!!!

Posted by: Daver at June 18, 2009 05:42 PM (khPxz)

84

It's good to have his distilled stupidity back where it belongs.

Huh....I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one.  What's the appeal?

Posted by: Eleven at June 18, 2009 05:45 PM (OGbpf)

85 Palin Steele's been cheating? 

Oh Palin Steele, when a drooling baby tot troll becomes a full grown liberal whore man troll sneaking out on his main obligation with as many partners as an Edwards or Bill C it's almost as beautiful as watching a maggot become a fly.  

Posted by: sis at June 18, 2009 05:51 PM (hm0CN)

86 Let me add to the Fox News non conservative list- Juan Williams, Mort Kondrake, Greta Van Susterin, Bill Schultz, Mara Liason.

Posted by: Darth Randall at June 18, 2009 05:53 PM (oLULt)

87 ok, fine (followed by complete invention)

Typically I ignore trolly types because they just aren't worth my time and while I have a lot of free time I prefer to spend it on more productive things like eating sunflower seeds and sitting on the porch admiring my newly mowed lawn.

But this was truly beyond the usual trollish idiocy. Completely invented numbers deliberately trying to portray Fox News as bad as possible, and the third error compounded both by the fact that this particular one claims to be non partisan and moderate. Moderates don't hate Fox News for its coverage. They hate it because it sucks as a news channel and covers celebrity trials and little missing white girls to the point of nausea.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 18, 2009 05:54 PM (PQY7w)

88

...it's almost as beautiful as watching a maggot become a fly.  

Brings a tear to my eye.  You've got a gift my friend.

Posted by: Eleven at June 18, 2009 05:55 PM (OGbpf)

89

Shit! Now look what you've done! He's crying again. If I wanted to see him cry, I'd just send him back to school....

Posted by: Palin Steele's Mom at June 18, 2009 05:58 PM (Vz1WE)

90

#51

I have nothing against foxnews. I just hate it when conservatives say it is a balanced channel (which is a joke).
Even MSNBC (which is the liberal version of fox) has a true rightwing guy in Joe Scarborough who has 3 hours of primetime every day.
Fox does not even have one token liberal (Alan Colmes used to occupy that role). They have not one true liberal with a show.
So, its a joke to not realize Fox is completely conservative, just as it would be a joke to say MSNBC is unbiased

Calling the Dems on their spin and outright falsehoods does not necessarily make one a conservative.

Posted by: Bill R. at June 18, 2009 06:08 PM (EhlQq)

91 Fox is the only channel where conservatives have any significant voice at all.  In the eyes of sheep like Palin Steele, that is utterly and irredeemably biased.

BTW, Palin Steele, did you ever respond when you challenged us to find examples of hatred and mocking of Trig Palin, and I provided you with a crapload of it?  Pretty ballsy of you to come back after that smackdown.

Qwinn

Posted by: Qwinn at June 18, 2009 06:10 PM (/y1J0)

92 No point in talking about Pathetically Stupid here anymore I'm sure he's not coming back after having been "pwned" as the little kid likes to say.  He's moved on to the next thread to utter something equally stupid and won't show his face here.

Posted by: buzzion at June 18, 2009 06:13 PM (w9k7q)

93

Democracy doesn't work if the people are not adequately informed about the candidates when they go to vote.  The people cannot be informed about the candidates if the press is staffed with partisan propagandists.  Therefore, democracy no longer functions in America.  The great experiment in democracy, started by the Greeks 2500 years ago, failed and ended in 2008.

Posted by: Crusty at June 18, 2009 06:14 PM (qzgbP)

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Posted by: I Am Jack's Raging Bile Duct at June 18, 2009 06:17 PM (8XI4A)

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96

I just studied the list. I hate to break the news to you guys but these are not ABC News Employees. 90% of those listed work for entertainment. I did see a sportscaster but he works for the local Chicago affiliate. But I would hardly think he would influence the debate on Healthcare.

I just looked DIsney up in the financials. they have about 130,000 employees. 150 who work under the ABC umbrella (of which ABC news is a division witin) gave money to Obama. some 140 of those 150 work for Entertainment. Are any of you surpeised that actors and writers from Hollywood are giving $$ to Obama?

I think you concern could better be directed elsewhere. this ain't much of  story

Posted by: jane at June 18, 2009 06:30 PM (47CHU)

97 I think you concern could better be directed elsewhere.

I have no shortage of concern to direct around.

Posted by: toby928 at June 18, 2009 06:44 PM (PD1tk)

98 ace, please do a counterreport on donations by FoxNews 'journalists'. thanks.

P/S: I wouldn't hold your breath. Dontcha know ABC/CBS/NBC/MSNBC and all the daily newspapers and all the radio stations* are against the poor conservatives.

Remember just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

*Excepting FOX and the EB!

Posted by: RKG at June 18, 2009 06:46 PM (Lsz2a)

99
Who were the four? Did they make a mistake?

Posted by: Jean at June 18, 2009 06:47 PM (mEfg3)

100 Posted by: RKG at June 18, 2009 06:46 PM (Lsz2a)

I laughed out loud.  Do you even read the fucking threads you comment on, dickweed?

Posted by: toby928 at June 18, 2009 06:48 PM (PD1tk)

101 100 Is there a point to your rant?

Posted by: RKG at June 18, 2009 06:54 PM (Lsz2a)

102 If I need to be more specific for you Toby, there is no real attribution for claims where ABC Employees donated.

Posted by: RKG at June 18, 2009 06:57 PM (Lsz2a)

103 "101 100 Is there a point to your rant?"

I think his point was that you just said "Don't hold your breath" to something that was provided, oh, about 78 comments ago, and has been remarked on repeatedly since then.

Which is a pretty stunningly dumb thing to do.  Well, no, I suppose anyone lazy could make that mistake.  But being called on it, and responding to it the way you just did?  Yeah, -that- was pretty undeniably dumb.

Qwinn

Posted by: Qwinn at June 18, 2009 06:58 PM (/y1J0)

104 Ace, I've been abhorring them for 30 years.

Posted by: Corona at June 18, 2009 06:58 PM (InjUv)

105 Okay. I can't deny being lazy.

Posted by: RKG at June 18, 2009 07:01 PM (Lsz2a)

106 Once again we find just how conservatives run big corporations. What a crock of shit. Every network, newspaper the lot of them can't go out of business fast enough. And take fucking Hollywood with them.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 18, 2009 07:02 PM (4nr/K)

107 33:1 ?  Wow,

That is even more extreme than the auto dealer donations of 88:12 Repub to Demo.

Posted by: Druid at June 18, 2009 07:09 PM (nFeDb)

108 Interesting that a lefty journalist who donates to Democrats is able to set aside his personal biases (just ask 'em!) but we need federal guidelines in place to make sure that racist/bigoted businessmen who obviously can't set aside their personal biases when it comes to hiring/promoting are kept in line, thus the need for continued affirmative action. 

Reckon one day they'll ever hold themselves to the (higher) standards that they expect from us?

Posted by: Cam Winston at June 18, 2009 07:09 PM (IirzJ)

109 They're balanced, 130 to 4 deranged retarded Rightards is balanced. So STFU.
 I won.

Posted by: Barry Sotero at June 18, 2009 07:11 PM (jE0gh)

110 "Fox does not even have one token liberal (Alan Colmes used to occupy that role). They have not one true liberal with a show."

Just off the top of my head, how about Bob Beckel, Juan Williams, Mara Liasson, and Susan Estrich.   I think the latter once was asked about Fox and she said she loved working there because it was relaxed and there was no political correctness.

Posted by: Mr. Peabody at June 18, 2009 07:13 PM (gxVc6)

111 Okay. I can't deny being lazy.

Not lazy. Just so filled with your certainty of being right that you spew contempt on anyone who dares disagree and don't even try to find out the truth. That's pathetic.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 18, 2009 07:15 PM (PQY7w)

112 I am quite shocked by the foxnews breakdown.

That's only because you're a retard.  Fox donations have leaned democrat for many years now...if anyone bothered to look.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at June 18, 2009 07:18 PM (Slx41)

113 Because Foxnews exists it makes all other liberal bias ok

/typical lefty response

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Posted by: monkeyfan at June 18, 2009 07:31 PM (cEE8N)

115

"That is even more extreme than the auto dealer donations of 88:12 Repub to Demo."

Tell me my friend, what is the ratio of dealerships closed by the government to open, Repub to Demo.

Thanks!

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E. Joe Buzz Biden-Miller, PhD, DO, MD at June 18, 2009 07:33 PM (CHf6r)

116

Okay, I've pulled the quarter out of his nose and changed him and he's finally asleep (no thanks to you people). Now keep the noise down; he's a very, very tired little boy....

Posted by: Palin Steele's Mom at June 18, 2009 07:47 PM (Vz1WE)

117 Because Foxnews exists it makes all other 40 years of liberal bias ok
FIFY

Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at June 18, 2009 07:49 PM (P2/xY)

118

"breakdown of FoxNews journalists in donations to 2008 elections

McCain/Palin - 99.6%

Obama/Biden - 0.4%*"

"Does my presence or the fact that I challenge your viewpoint intimidate you and make you uncomfortable?"

Challenge my viewpoint with what?  Arguments made in bad faith?

Posted by: blackrockmarauder at June 18, 2009 07:51 PM (GvgvT)

119 Also, I did only notice two or three ABC News employees on that sheet.  There were, predictably, a lot of writers, actors, execs... and Barbara Walter's hairdresser.  NTTAWWT.

Journos tend not to make political donations.  They do their work for their candidates "in kind," if you know what I'm saying.

Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at June 18, 2009 07:53 PM (P2/xY)

120 In college I was always amazed that my poly sci and philosophy profs could trust the media to check their bias at the door and remain professionally neutral.  But, when a USSC nominee may have had a conservative bent, they were labeled ideological hacks by same said professors.  No way could a judge like Clarence Thomas do his job professionally because he was a conservative shill.

The power of self delusion and denial is truly awesome.

Posted by: The Hammer at June 18, 2009 08:33 PM (YBTwf)

121 Most people on the list are not journalists. The donors are in the entertainment  business. Some are hair dressers. There are only three journalists on the list out of 130. While I agree that most journalists are cock sucking ass fuckers who lie to the public every day of their lives, claiming they're neutral and they aren't biased towards liberals. They are of course. But this list doesn't really confirm this. I don't believe either Ace or Glenn Reynolds looked at the names on the list before he posted.

Posted by: Mansonlamps at June 18, 2009 08:45 PM (m+cxB)

122 I just studied the list. I hate to break the news to you guys but these are not ABC News Employees. 90% of those listed work for entertainment.

Try this one - it's all journalists.


Posted by: Good Lt. at June 18, 2009 08:55 PM (n/M5O)

123 I can't believe I'm about to say this, but Rahm Immanuel put it best: "Don't bullshit me... I hate you all..."

Posted by: G$ at June 18, 2009 09:05 PM (nxYGK)

124 122
Checked that list and I noticed MessNBC had another retarded story about Rush. 

Posted by: Heather at June 18, 2009 09:10 PM (OnTPH)

125 Okay. I can't deny being lazy.

Posted by: RKG at June 18, 2009 07:01 PM (Lsz2a)


And stupid. You're lazy and stupid. The perfect combo for a liberal.



Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 18, 2009 09:11 PM (4nr/K)

126 Checked that list and I noticed MessNBC had another retarded story about Rush.

Yeah, they have this near-sexual obsession with Rush.

It's like a three-year old discovering his weenie for the first time. They just can't stop pinging it, regardless of who's watching.

Posted by: Good Lt. at June 18, 2009 09:14 PM (n/M5O)

127

Anyone wish to bet what PMS has to say about the donations ratio at NBC, CBS, MSNBC and CNN?

It must hurt to be brain dead.

Posted by: Thomas Jackson at June 18, 2009 09:16 PM (B8gqF)

128 126

hehe

Did you see that one Mess reporter get really mad when some Repub brought up that they couldn't stop talking about him?  It was classic. 


Posted by: Heather at June 18, 2009 09:20 PM (OnTPH)

129 Just another thread of everyone's favorite game, Whack-A-Troll.

Posted by: Malamutt at June 18, 2009 09:22 PM (tdr59)

130 Did you see that one Mess reporter get really mad when some Repub brought up that they couldn't stop talking about him?  It was classic.

I did not see that. Linky, maybeez?

Posted by: Good Lt. at June 18, 2009 09:26 PM (n/M5O)

131 130
link in a sec

Posted by: Heather at June 18, 2009 09:28 PM (OnTPH)

132 130

http://townhall.com/blog/page16

Posted by: Heather at June 18, 2009 09:32 PM (OnTPH)

133 Posted by: Heather at June 18, 2009 09:32 PM

LOL

Dude hit the mark. They were screeching like hyenas. That anchorette turned into a babbling, gibbering idiot within 3 seconds trying to "defend" her network's near-sexual obsession with Rush.

Thanks for that. :-)

Posted by: Good Lt. at June 18, 2009 09:37 PM (n/M5O)

134 Posted by: Good Lt. at June 18, 2009 09:37 PM (n/M5O)


Your welcome.  Always happy to point out the idiocy of the State Media.

Posted by: Heather at June 18, 2009 09:44 PM (OnTPH)

135 Truth be told, I'm actually a journalist myself by trade. I write for a medium-sized science-oriented publication.

Shhhh.

It's as bad as you think in here, I'm sorry to report.


Posted by: Good Lt. at June 18, 2009 09:47 PM (n/M5O)

136 Well, it's good to know we have a spy on the inside...LOL

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Posted by: jju at June 18, 2009 10:00 PM (9Xn2p)

138 Tell me my friend, what is the ratio of dealerships closed by the government to open, Repub to Demo.

Thanks!

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E. Joe Buzz Biden-Miller, PhD, DO, MD

Don't know. However if there is a suggestion of improprieties by the Obama administration it would may be more useful compare the ratio of dealerships closed by the government to open, explicit Obama $$$  to all other $$$.

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Why would they assert something so ridiculous? If a Muslim group accuses them of exhibiting anti-Muslim bias, they don't pooh-pooh that charge. They immediately have meetings with the group, put a panel on the subject on Nightline, elevate a Muslim journalist to some sort of bias-ombudsman position, etc.

They take such charges of bias seriously, in other words, so long as the charges come from groups associated with the left.

I disagree. Personally I think news outlets relish the chance to demonstrate how unbiased and opposed to 'bigotry' they are (although only towards select causes or groups that are deemed worthy by the political left, natch).

Self-flagellation for the perceived ills of white male hegemony is a huge theme among leftards these days.

The chance to demonstrate how holier than thou they really are, and that they're willing to admit that even they (gasp!) could be perceived as racist/narrowminded/bigoted/whatever, is butter on bread for media outlets and other bastions of leftist thought and culture, such as universities -- and of course, it doesn't hurt that their reactions imply that, if even we can sometimes appear racist/bigoted/anti-gay to some people, how much worse must everyone else who is less enlightened than us be?

It's fantastic PR.

Posted by: mandible claw at June 18, 2009 11:08 PM (QKrrS)

141 44 alright, dan-O, you got me. I admit, I am quite shocked by the foxnews breakdown.


Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 18, 2009 04:48 PM (VDj74)

--------------------------   51 I have nothing against foxnews. I just hate it when conservatives say it is a balanced channel (which is a joke).

Even MSNBC (which is the liberal version of fox) has a true rightwing guy in Joe Scarborough who has 3 hours of primetime every day.

Fox does not even have one token liberal (Alan Colmes used to occupy that role). They have not one true liberal with a show.

So, its a joke to not realize Fox is completely conservative, just as it would be a joke to say MSNBC is unbiased.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 18, 2009 04:57 PM (VDj74)

---------------------------------

So, let's get this straight: you initially took issue with the thread as there was no comparison of Fox News' political contributions, which you presumed would be as biased to GOP as ABC's were to Dems.

Then, when proven utterly, hopelessly wrong, you admitted your surprise that the split was about even and, in fact, News Corp. employees donated slightly more to Dems than Repubs.

Then, in the next breath, you are back to the initial meme -- that Fox News is as biased to the right as other channels are to the left (although you've now for some reason switched to MSNBC, which was not discussed at all in the initial post), despite just minutes earlier having acknowledged that you were shown proof positive that the opposite is true.

A question: Do you have ADD?

Posted by: mandible claw at June 18, 2009 11:21 PM (QKrrS)

142 @11  also, why the hell is this info even available? isnt who you donate money to private info?

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at June 18, 2009 04:30 PM (VDj74)

"Why the hell," it says.  Outraged, it is, over this perceived breach of privacy.

So, painfull stool, it's like this: when donating money to a political party or campaign, one must fill out a form detailing one's name and dwelling-place.  This then becomes a matter of public record.  If you want to see how much specific people donated, and to whom, then all you need to google it is their name and their town.

But, "why the hell" you say. Outraged. Outraged over something that is common knowledge, that you for some reason don't know.  You have opinions, strong and specific opinions, about things that you know nothing about.  That is a problem.

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Posted by: Derak at June 19, 2009 12:02 AM (ywmDM)

144 A question: Do you have ADD?

As you may have seen in my post around 7 hours ago, (golly by gosh, this thread is still active? heh.)  the youngster to which you have thoroughly recapped and flogged really needs a wooden spoon thwacked fervently across his bottom.  Then sent to bed without his dinner.  Apparently, that indeed did happen.  Good job, trollbusters.

Carry on.

Posted by: Derak at June 19, 2009 12:08 AM (ywmDM)

145 These trolls are no fun, they're too retarded and lazy to make me feel anything other than pity, especially RKG.

Posted by: Ben at June 19, 2009 12:27 AM (8t9o0)

146 119 Journos tend not to make political donations.  They do their work for their candidates "in kind," if you know what I'm saying.
Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at June 18, 2009 07:53 PM (P2/xY)   We have no idea what you are trying to insinuate.

Posted by: The Fellatio Media at June 19, 2009 03:33 AM (Bpyo9)

147 Are all the wingers here in agreement? ABC is liberally biased. FOX is not biased?

Posted by: RKG at June 19, 2009 08:02 AM (Lsz2a)

148 I'm pretty sure the only thing everyone here agrees on is that you are lazy, stupid and intellectually dishonest.

Posted by: huerfano at June 19, 2009 08:08 AM (knHvu)

149

We agree.  This guy is an underwear stripe.

Posted by: all the wingers here at June 19, 2009 08:12 AM (0AEWQ)

150 Pretty good answers! But what about my question?

Posted by: RKG at June 19, 2009 08:22 AM (Lsz2a)

151 What about it?  Do you feel that we have some obligation to address any random query some multiply-pwned trolling twat posits?  Do you have some kind of snappy retort written out and you need a straight man to feed you an intro?

I'm disinclined to aid you.

Posted by: toby928 at June 19, 2009 08:45 AM (PD1tk)

152 I'm confused, the volume of the homo sapiens cranium is insufficient to contain that much fail.  Where do they keep it all?

Posted by: John Galt at June 19, 2009 09:07 AM (SDkq3)

153 So, you're going to just post as if you didn't do something stupid and embarassing above humiliating yourself in your vain quest to find equivalence in Fox News? That's your position now?

Pathetic, again.

Do you ever, ever stop and question your political ideas, the positions you take? Ever?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 19, 2009 09:31 AM (PQY7w)

154

I'm confused, the volume of the homo sapiens cranium is insufficient to contain that much fail.  Where do they keep it all?

There's extra storage space in the colon.

Posted by: huerfano at June 19, 2009 09:45 AM (knHvu)

155 I wonder what the trolls would say if NBC gave the GOP the same amount of time to broadcast their view.  Watch their heads explode.

Posted by: Thomas Jackson at June 19, 2009 10:24 AM (B8gqF)

156 151

In other words, I gotchya.

Posted by: RKG at June 19, 2009 11:02 AM (Lsz2a)

157 In other words, I gotchya.

Dude.  *shakes head sadly*

How's your custom dictionary coming along?

Posted by: toby928 at June 19, 2009 11:05 AM (PD1tk)

158 Come upsite, RKG.  I'd prefer to mock you in a more highly trafficed thread.

Posted by: toby928 at June 19, 2009 11:15 AM (PD1tk)

159 Americans have a wide range of choices on where to source their news. The right of center Fox News gets about 10% of the audience during the prime time news hour. What does the right wing want ? Doyou think that Americans should have to watch politically neutral news ? Shouldn't we continue to have a choice ?

Posted by: John ryan at June 19, 2009 12:56 PM (mwPMn)

160 Yeah we have a wide range: Left, left, left, left, left, left and hard left.. and center right, sometimes. That's a dizzying array of choices.

How about news that doesn't deliberately take sides on an issue, silence the other side, then pretend to be neutral and objective? How about that?

Thanks for admitting the legacy media is full of leftists other than Fox news, admitting its heavily biased to the left. In this thread. Next thread you can start pretending no bias exists, again.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 19, 2009 01:56 PM (PQY7w)

161 The right of center Fox News gets about 10% of the audience during the prime time news hour.

I've never understood why Murdoch doesn't run the FNC evening news on his entertainment channels, just the first half-hour newsy part.  Considering how they crush their cable competition, surely it would be a moneymaker against the free-to-view alphabet news.

Baffling.

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