Israel Security Saves Jimmy Carter From Assassination Attempt By Palestinians

Sounds about right. The headline credits Hamas for actually removing the bombs, but it was Israeli security who got the intelligence and passed it on.

Jimmy Carter immediately thanked Israelis by calling them "insidiously cunning" and "ruthlessly, even demonically, crafty." He then went back to reading a book by Holocaust denier David Irving, calling it "the feel-good rollercoaster ride of the summer."

No, but really, he did assert Hamas "wants peace" and otherwise flatter his terrorist hosts.

Posted by: Ace at 09:17 PM

Comments

1 So that whole "self-loathing Jew" thing isn't just a completely fabricated stereotype?

Posted by: apotheosis at June 16, 2009 09:20 PM (xWk3U)

2 That's another thing I have against Israeli security...

Posted by: Thomas Jackson at June 16, 2009 09:20 PM (B8gqF)

3 There are things I could say... But, I won't.

Posted by: jane at June 16, 2009 09:21 PM (NUl2C)

4 The one time the Israelis could have let their guard down.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2009 09:21 PM (nsok8)

5 That made me bust a gut.

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 16, 2009 09:22 PM (UVGaw)

6 I guess it's ok for former presidents to meddle in the elections of other countries. Current ones, not so much. Regardless, Jimmy is a clueless douchetard. I wish he'd go away blow away.

Posted by: runningrn at June 16, 2009 09:22 PM (RwCJ3)

7 zzzzzzzzzzzzz
<snort>
Huh, what?

Posted by: Karma at June 16, 2009 09:23 PM (wU8X9)

8 Was it actually human, or did the rabbit come back for more?

Posted by: AD at June 16, 2009 09:23 PM (7ZxiY)

9 Heh, in the comments to the article: "Hamas can keep Carter".

Ain't that the fucking truth.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 16, 2009 09:28 PM (0qj3r)

Its' obviously a trick! See, Israel secretly planted the bomb, then tipped off Hamas, yeah, that's it! They wanted Hamas to get credit for stopping the bombing so it would... make people mad at them for saving J.Carter's skin!

Crafty indeed!

Posted by: 5Cats at June 16, 2009 09:29 PM (Ivexw)

11 Who the hell would try to assassinate Jimmy Carter? What would they hope to accomplish?!!

Screw 'em, those shit eating bags of shit who are eating their own ideologically ancestral shitbag parents. Anyone who tries to assassinate an American President deserves that swiftest, most ruthless retribution imaginable. I'm talking, we should hold competitions to see who can imagine the most swift and ruthless retribution.

I hope this gives Jimmah a fresh view of Israel's contribution to the world.

Posted by: Z Ryan at June 16, 2009 09:31 PM (PDeVA)

12 And Obama is just as stupid as Carter. Only downright fucking evil.

Posted by: hutch1200 at June 16, 2009 09:31 PM (fa4E+)

13 I'm glad the Israelis passed on the intel and saved that douchebag because as bad a Jimmy Carter is, a martyred Jimmy Carter would be worse.

And good men would probably die taking out the killers.

Posted by: Mætenloch at June 16, 2009 09:32 PM (u2i5o)

14 *sigh* there are so many mean things I wish I could say about an old and fragile man (did I say really old and almost to the point of decomposing?) advocating for Hamas to be taken off the U.S. terror list but I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut.

Posted by: TiNa48 at June 16, 2009 09:33 PM (rcAOq)

15 Z ryan......You are a funny/comedy guy. Carter learns from assholes....Don't quit the day job.

Posted by: hutch1200 at June 16, 2009 09:34 PM (fa4E+)

16 So apparently, all that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do something.

...or something.

Posted by: apotheosis at June 16, 2009 09:36 PM (xWk3U)

17 They had to stop it if they knew about it, otherwise, they'd be blamed - and be an accomplice of sorts.

Maybe the loser will just croak soon. He's not lookin' too good.

Posted by: Old Sailor at June 16, 2009 09:39 PM (/Ft4q)

18 Can we get a do over?

Posted by: Mossad at June 16, 2009 09:40 PM (ivwt+)

19 When is someone going to invent a super duct tape that Carter cannot take off?

Posted by: mystry at June 16, 2009 09:41 PM (kmgIE)

20 OT: Hey, Ace, in the Twitter thread, someone just posted a link to a Farsi translator for those helping out (and having fun) by gaming the system for the Iranian Twitter police.

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 16, 2009 09:45 PM (UVGaw)

21 We either lost an x president or gained one and if they had not acted it could have been a lot worst.

Posted by: ungoogleable at June 16, 2009 09:48 PM (EiH7n)

22 Regrets, I've had a few...

Posted by: Meir Dagan at June 16, 2009 09:50 PM (9Lm5R)

Carter sucks, but a dead Jimmy would get all the thumbsuckers pumped up. I'm glad the Israelis stopped President Obama's foreign policy role model from falling down go boom.

Posted by: KingShamus at June 16, 2009 09:50 PM (5BgCg)

24 Once again the Israelis show their true humanity and will receive zero credit.

Posted by: FreakyBoy at June 16, 2009 09:50 PM (jawwA)

25 Ugh, as loathsome as he has been/can be he still is an American President and as such we should ruthlessly pursue those responsible for the attempted assassination. That being said, I do hope he realizes now, but of course he won't. As they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks and Carter is the oldest dog of them all.

Posted by: Alex at June 16, 2009 09:50 PM (YCNq4)

26 Israel Security Saves Jimmy Carter From Assassination Attempt By Palestinians

WHY?

Posted by: CoolCzech at June 16, 2009 09:51 PM (teBup)

27 I can just imagine the new books/ autobiograghies waiting for just this moment in time. spit.

Posted by: Hugh J. at June 16, 2009 09:51 PM (iEUqJ)

28 Hutch, I just mean, what is Jimmah relevant towards? At best he's an excuse/justifier for the UN to hate on Israel, which they're gonna do anyway.

Posted by: Z Ryan at June 16, 2009 09:53 PM (PDeVA)

29
The Palestinians were going to assassinate Jimmy Carter?

Wow. Wouldn't that be...

rich.

Posted by: Unicles at June 16, 2009 09:54 PM (Bmhek)

30 I bet they saved my life on the cheap.

Posted by: Jimmah the Peanut Farmer at June 16, 2009 09:55 PM (yUiO3)

31

Personally, I wish they'd succeeded.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: thebronze at June 16, 2009 09:55 PM (oMHAH)

32 Many palestinian teenagers died (killed by their parents) bringing us these plans.

Posted by: Mon Mothma at June 16, 2009 09:59 PM (wU8X9)

33 Guys, this serious shit.

Al Queda just tried to kill a former US President.

That is an act of war, and Obama needs to get his ass out there and condemn the attempt. Now.

All kidding aside (im looking at you thebronze), noone tries to kill a former US President and lives to talk about it. Fuck those bastards, this should be used to shock the public into reality again that Al Queda still wants to kill us.

the JPOST details are chilling:

Israeli security sources said they had learned of plans to target Carter and had passed on the information to his security detail in "real time."

According to Palestinian sources, terrorists linked to al-Qaida hid a number of bombs along a road Carter's convoy was scheduled to travel on while in the Strip.

Following Carter's entry to Gaza, five men, some wearing Hamas police uniforms, removed three large black disks and some wire from a sand dune next to a road Carter had used. They then reportedly destroyed the improvised bombs.

A uniformed officer at the scene told The Associated Press the items were explosives.

Security officials said soldiers in a lookout post spotted Hamas forces dismantling explosives. They said they passed on a warning to Carter's security detail.

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at June 16, 2009 10:00 PM (5r0Tz)

34 While it's fun to kid around (since nothing actually happened to him), if something had occurred, the words "Jimmy Carter" would go from meaning "one of the worst Presidents in American history and emblematic of everything that is wrong with the left" to "great Democratic martyr to be celebrated and remembered for decades to come."

Get down on your knees and thank god Israel stopped this.

Posted by: AD at June 16, 2009 10:01 PM (7ZxiY)

35 OK, one of the bad comments: Obama didn't need that distraction. Yet.

Posted by: Evil midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight at June 16, 2009 10:01 PM (taJZA)

36 It's embarrassing to have one of your politicians assassinated.

I remember when Jesse Ventura was my Governor, he had been attacked several times. Some things were just like getting pies thrown at him, but it was serious that he needed security. He started paying for his own security out of his own pocket (not charging taxpayers even though he's the Gov). Our local press HATED, I mean, HAAAATED the guy.

The local press started calling for his security budget to be cut. Even though he'd been attacked many times and his security budget was not raised from previous ammounts.

Their reasoning: their polls showed him unfavorably.

The local press HATED Jesse Ventura and their own polls showed him low in favorability so they started calling for his security budget to be cut. How ridiculous is that? He deserves to be killed because they don't like him.

I was young at the time and it was one of my cues that there was something seriously wrong with the MSM.

Posted by: Z Ryan at June 16, 2009 10:07 PM (PDeVA)

37 Mayhap, carter has a death wish? no?

Posted by: Hugh J. at June 16, 2009 10:09 PM (iEUqJ)

Oh, the irony...

Hey, runningrn @ #6? clueless douchetard ... I'm so stealing that....

Posted by: jana at June 16, 2009 10:10 PM (vSRlG)

39 Sgt. Hulka: One of these men may save your life some day!

John Winger: Then again, maybe one of us won't.

Posted by: nickless at June 16, 2009 10:11 PM (MMC8r)

>Guys, this serious shit.

Al Queda just tried to kill a former US President.

That is an act of war, and Obama needs to get his ass out there and condemn the attempt. Now.

Tonight's White House forecast is 'troubled', changing to widely scattered 'concern' by morning.

be lucky if you get that...

Posted by: Jones at June 16, 2009 10:12 PM (KOkrW)

we should hold competitions to see who can imagine the most swift and ruthless retribution

Rangers, definitely the Army Rangers

Posted by: UofC Conservative at June 16, 2009 10:12 PM (ivwt+)

42 Obama doesn't have the balls necessary to tell Hamas that they better get on the phone and start offering up some corpses of AQ for this... the funny thing is that Israel- assuming they get any sort of press about this at all- comes out smelling like a rose.

If Bambi did have any balls, he'd send a message that the US does not take attempts on presidents' lives lightly, and perhaps make an example to drive the point home. But given the fact that his balls are in M'chell's purse...

Posted by: tmi3rd at June 16, 2009 10:12 PM (MLaAD)

43 Get down on your knees and thank god Israel stopped this.

Thank god, otherwise it'd be Jimmy Carter-this and Jimmy Carter-that. We'd never be rid of him and he would be forever memorialized as the Peacemaker who died trying to bring peace to the middle-east - not as the Jew-disliking POS that he is.

Posted by: Mætenloch at June 16, 2009 10:13 PM (u2i5o)

Yeah President Cheeseburger is too busy driving the US economy into the ground to get worked up over what did or did not blow up Jimmy Carter today...

Posted by: Jones at June 16, 2009 10:15 PM (KOkrW)

I guess the Mossad saved or created one moral-equivalence peacenik Israel-hater.

Posted by: KingShamus at June 16, 2009 10:15 PM (5BgCg)

46 If Cater dies.

The Jews get blamed. Carter is a martyr in Al Quedas eyes for the greater good.

Douchebags

Posted by: TendStl at June 16, 2009 10:16 PM (nXPfQ)

47 Thank god, otherwise it'd be Jimmy Carter-this and Jimmy Carter-that. We'd never be rid of him and he would be forever memorialized as the Peacemaker who died trying to bring peace to the middle-east

When Reagan died, there were miles of people taking their last look at The Gipper. When Jimmah croaks, ACORN will have to scare up a few buses to make it look like a crowd on the main street of Plains

Posted by: kbdabear at June 16, 2009 10:16 PM (93F13)

48 "Israel Security Saves Jimmy Carter From Assassination Attempt By Palestinians"

Suuuuuuuuuuure they did, and I'm an ass model for Calvin Klein underwear.

Least. Believable. Story. Ever.

"He then went back to reading a book by Holocaust denier David Irving"

Oh, I see you call all of your political opponents LOLocaust deniers, I don't take it so personally then.

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 16, 2009 10:18 PM (qSWxU)

49 Carter should die forgotten.

Period.

Posted by: nickless at June 16, 2009 10:18 PM (MMC8r)

50 Would the Joos bury Jimmah exactly as Muslim tradition dictates?

Posted by: gator at June 16, 2009 10:19 PM (yUiO3)

51 42 Obama doesn't have the balls necessary to tell Hamas that they better get on the phone and start offering up some corpses of AQ for this... the funny thing is that Israel- assuming they get any sort of press about this at all- comes out smelling like a rose.

If Bambi did have any balls, he'd send a message that the US does not take attempts on presidents' lives lightly, and perhaps make an example to drive the point home. But given the fact that his balls are in M'chell's purse...

Posted by: tmi3rd at June 16, 2009 10:12 PM (MLaAD)

Exactly - the conservative blogs need to push this story hard to force Obama to protect America's interest. This happened in Hamas's Gazaistan territory - they are at least in part responsible for not having Al Queda under control when Carter visited.

The Israelis had to bail them out with their own good intel. Or Carter may have gotten taken out by Al Queda - can you imagine the propaganda victory for them? This is fucking ridiculous and Obama must be forced to deal HARSHLY with Hamas for their lax as hell security at a minimum! Fucking eh!

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at June 16, 2009 10:20 PM (5r0Tz)

52 48 "Israel Security Saves Jimmy Carter From Assassination Attempt By Palestinians"

Suuuuuuuuuuure they did, and I'm an ass model for Calvin Klein underwear.

Least. Believable. Story. Ever.

"He then went back to reading a book by Holocaust denier David Irving"

Oh, I see you call all of your political opponents LOLocaust deniers, I don't take it so personally then.

Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 16, 2009 10:18 PM (qSWxU)

Go away Nazi.
Seriously.
Ace, how about banning his human excrement?

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at June 16, 2009 10:20 PM (5r0Tz)

53 Carter is on their side. This just proves they eat their own.

Posted by: Retread at June 16, 2009 10:21 PM (w4Egv)

54 45

I guess the Mossad saved or created one moral-equivalence peacenik Israel-hater.

Posted by: KingShamus at June 16, 2009 10:15 PM (5BgCg)

Threadwinner.

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at June 16, 2009 10:22 PM (5r0Tz)

55 48

No you are an asshat in Calvin Klein underwear.

Posted by: dayers at June 16, 2009 10:25 PM (OxWrr)

56 Just wait for the book!

Posted by: Hugh J. at June 16, 2009 10:27 PM (iEUqJ)

57 Even Clinton would have lobbed a few cruise missles at somebody. Obama: in way over his head.

Posted by: Hammer at June 16, 2009 10:31 PM (1kwr2)

58 When Jimmah assumed the Presidency, and was given the real intel scoop on Area 51 he began losing touch with reality. He just couldn't handle the truth. The kiwwah wabbit incident finished him off.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at June 16, 2009 10:34 PM (/2hGD)

59 @ 54: Thanks man. I'm hitting the valu-rite hard.

Posted by: KingShamus at June 16, 2009 10:34 PM (5BgCg)

60 Okay, I have on purpose avoided coming here today because I have this awful flu, and cannot quit coughing. I knew if I came here I would be launched into a coughing fit from the sheer hilariousness that is Ace and all of you! You all owe me a new set of ribs! LMAO and coughing like mad!

Yes, this is serious because al-Qaeda would love nothing more than to make Israel and the U.S. more at odds. And Obama would love to use an incident like harm to Carter as an excuse to make that clusterfarking Cairo speech of his ring true.

Butt monkey, Jimmy Carter has no business interjecting himself into world politics where he is making demands for HAMAS to be taken off the U.S. terrorist list. And the hysterically funny comments about this lunatic are ones HE has earned.

You guys should come with a health warning attached! LOL!

Posted by: freeus at June 16, 2009 10:35 PM (zxRJP)

61 What surprises me (in a good way I guess) is that "Palestinian sources" blamed Al Queda and not the Joos. That's kinda odd. Guess it is in the Jerusalem Post.

"Legitimate news organization" hints at possible Israeli culpability in 3...2...1...

Posted by: whatever at June 16, 2009 10:35 PM (XIXhw)

62 61 What surprises me (in a good way I guess) is that "Palestinian sources" blamed Al Queda and not the Joos. That's kinda odd. Guess it is in the Jerusalem Post.

"Legitimate news organization" hints at possible Israeli culpability in 3...2...1...

Posted by: whatever at June 16, 2009 10:35 PM (XIXhw)

We better have some CIA guys in Gaza right fucking now trackign these Al Queda bastards who set these roadside bombs.

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at June 16, 2009 10:39 PM (5r0Tz)

63 Sorry, but the story on its face makes no fucking sense whatsoever. Of all the Westerners to assassinate, why would the Palestinians or Al-Qaeda target Jimmy Carter? He's the Palestinians' biggest cheerleader in America (or at least the highest-profile and most-recognized, since Edward Said is a bit more niche-famous).

I could only imagine some element on the fringe even of AQ doing something like that -- either to demonstrate utter nihilism by targeting even an American who shares many of their sympathies; or out of the same grudge over the Israel-Egypt Treaty that led to the assassination of Anwar Sadat.

Otherwise, it just don't add up.

Posted by: Alex at June 16, 2009 10:40 PM (h8+gK)

64 I wonder if they waterboarded to get the information on the attempt.

Posted by: Matt at June 16, 2009 10:45 PM (FSiXf)

65 nickless, posts like #49 prolly aren't appropriate. Especially if you don't want to be dragged out of bed at 3:00am by the Secret Service. I mean, you know, I wouldn't risk it.

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 16, 2009 10:45 PM (UVGaw)

66 "Suuuuuuuuuuure they did, and I'm an ass model for Calvin Klein underwear."

You stupid fucking troll, do you even grasp earthly reality beyond your contempt for certain political entities?

Israel needed to be accused of murdering a US president like your parents needed to ignore the wise guidance of Planned Parenthood.

Posted by: JB at June 16, 2009 10:45 PM (nXTOK)

67 #63 Yes it does make sense. It was on the border and they way the story came out this a.m. on Fox, it was made to sound like Hamas had found the roadside bombs and saved Carter's life. Even Fox reported it as if they had no idea just exactly WHO had planted the things. It had a ring to it like Israel might have planted the bombs.

And with this media blackout concerning ever reporting the truth, it would be easy to manipulate the whole thing. Who knows, I could see Hamas getting ahold of some Israeli bombs and planting them there to frame Israel. Nasty little buggers that they are. Hamas that is!

The press coming out of Israel as of late has been extra angry at the U.S. and Hamas knows it. It would take forever to get to the truth, and Obama would want to frame Israel anyway. Since the old fart is such a Hamas lover they would make it look as if he was a martyr.

And think of it this way, with Obama in charge, who needs a fossil like Carter? Why should Hamas worry when they have the real deal? They have POTUS!

Posted by: freeus at June 16, 2009 10:50 PM (zxRJP)

68 Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain with the bomb strapped around his belly.

Posted by: The Wizard of Plains at June 16, 2009 10:53 PM (RykTt)

69 nickless, posts like #49 prolly aren't appropriate. Especially if you don't want to be dragged out of bed at 3:00am by the Secret Service. I mean, you know, I wouldn't risk it.

What? I'm not wishing violent death on the man, just obscurity. Let him pass away quietly, peacefully, of old age, in Plains, with no one remembering him or caring.

Certainly not at the hands of murderers in an international incident.

Posted by: nickless at June 16, 2009 10:54 PM (MMC8r)

70 Alex,

Are you really that ignorant? You think Hamas and Hez b'Allah wouldn't assassinate anybody to prove their own virility? They fucking hate America. And they only discriminate between us like the Soviet Union did:

Useful idiots: First against the wall after the revolution
Everybody Else: We'll get around to you after we're done with the useful idiots.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at June 16, 2009 11:05 PM (1Bods)

71 When you consider the reputation of JFK, compared with his abilities, I think saving Carter was a good thing.

If he speaks at length about his life-and-death thoughts, that could be a good thing too.

Posted by: Cincinnatus at June 16, 2009 11:10 PM (K5AMb)

72 Just like stoned American college students debate the moral question of going back in time and killing the monster Hitler and preventing World War II, someday stoned Jewish students, from the former nation of Israel, will debate the moral question of going back in time, and killing the decrepit monster Carter, and preventing their nation's annihilation at the hands of Iran

Posted by: Ted K. at June 16, 2009 11:15 PM (fsOcp)

73 If these supposed al Qaeda operatives had blown up Jimmy Carter .. would it have been Dick Cheney's fault ?

Posted by: Neo at June 16, 2009 11:15 PM (5d1ix)

Dang, you would have thought all that hugging, kissing, supporting, and speaking for he has done would have bought him a front row seat to "Israel- the nuclear wateland" rather than an attempt on his life!

Glad to see his head is still attached- hopefully he will use this opportunity to friggin' USE IT for the first time in 30 years....

Posted by: Gerry Owen at June 16, 2009 11:16 PM (oGv5F)

75 #73 No, at this point Cheney has them by the balls. It has to be Palin's fault or a member of her family. Remember, she had that little Israeli flag in her office, and she has spoken out FOR Israel. Not to mention, she must pay for making Dave non-apologize apologize.

Posted by: freeus at June 16, 2009 11:21 PM (zxRJP)

76 I guess they figured that the old Carter is expendable ... now that they have the new and improved 2009 version in the White House.

Posted by: Warden at June 16, 2009 11:32 PM (KXbGD)

Giant Killer Rabbits of the World Unite!

We'll get him and they'll have to give us our Miranda rights and then they'll send us to Bermuda.

Is this a great country of what?

Posted by: Thomas Jackson at June 16, 2009 11:39 PM (B8gqF)

78 #76

You just called it.

Posted by: dayers at June 16, 2009 11:41 PM (OxWrr)

79 This is fucking ridiculous and Obama must be forced to deal HARSHLY with Hamas for their lax as hell security at a minimum! Fucking eh!

Hey, HEY. HEYYY!. He ain't gonna deal with it, okay? Those fuckin' bastards Hamas FINANCED his election, amoungst others. He is all about the money, all about the power.

Give this up. Obama is not an American. mkay? New strategy needed.

Something along the lines of a coup d'etat. Old world rules need not apply. We are in the fight of our lives. Think outside the box.

_{and um.. greatest respects to ahff. I see you know yer stuff, but.... this obama guy isn't ...er.. normal.}

Posted by: Derak at June 16, 2009 11:46 PM (FRQam)

80 Well thank goodness the days of man-made disasters ended with the ouster of Chimpy McHitler Bush (that ain't racist or offensive 'cause he's white) and AQ now loves us and would never consider an act of terrorism against US interests or persons now that Prez'nit Lightbringer has ushered in the Age of the Unicorn. The only reason terrorist attacked us is because of Bush's world-hating quest for oil. You never saw our misunderstood brothers from the world's second largest Muslim area (since the US is largest) try something like this against Obama, Clinton or Carter did you? uhh... wait... nevermind. Let's free some more terrorists shall we?

/sarc

Posted by: Damiano at June 17, 2009 12:26 AM (ROnvz)

81 Opportunity missed.

Posted by: Poetic Justice at June 17, 2009 12:30 AM (mozkX)

82 Thanks to Obama's policies; retarded, economy-destroying, shack-building peanut farmers can't even take a drive in their friends' desert.

Posted by: Damiano at June 17, 2009 12:33 AM (ROnvz)

83 I really hate to admit it, but I'm having trouble feeling bad for Jimmah. That said, the perps need to be hunted and "brought to justice", preferably by some well placed missiles with "Miranda" written on them.

I also think that if this had played out, Israel would have been blamed.

Posted by: howsa at June 17, 2009 01:25 AM (OYBnL)

84 What is Carter doing over there anyway? Why is he back in the picture? It's almost as if he came out of retirement to defend his title of "Worst President Ever" against the challenger Obama.

Posted by: Mindy at June 17, 2009 01:43 AM (6L13y)

85 "removed three large black disks and some wire from a sand dune next to a road Carter had used. They then reportedly destroyed the improvised bombs"

large black disks = EFP or re-purposed anti-tank mines (technically also EFPs) = not a bombmaking 1.0, but within the capability of Gaza's "engineers"

three = redundancy and wider target area making timing and knowledge of exactly which vehicle held the VIP less critical = "professional"

as far as who called who, are parts of Hamas complicit, was it real or a sympathy ploy, etc -- all unanswerable (see Wilderness of Mirrors shit). I would be interested to know if the bomb planters had installed some surprises for the removers - not likely to find this out.

(EFP = explosively formed projectile)

Posted by: Jean at June 17, 2009 03:22 AM (xCBQ4)

Carter's history would be revised if he were martyred, and he knows it. Don't think his ego is not that big, 'cause it is.

Not accusing him of inserting himself exclusively for that reason, but it has to have crossed his mind.

Posted by: small town girl at June 17, 2009 04:48 AM (QiYTX)

87 63 Sorry, but the story on its face makes no fucking sense whatsoever. Of all the Westerners to assassinate, why would the Palestinians or Al-Qaeda target Jimmy Carter? He's the Palestinians' biggest cheerleader in America (or at least the highest-profile and most-recognized, since Edward Said is a bit more niche-famous).

I could only imagine some element on the fringe even of AQ doing something like that -- either to demonstrate utter nihilism by targeting even an American who shares many of their sympathies; or out of the same grudge over the Israel-Egypt Treaty that led to the assassination of Anwar Sadat.

Otherwise, it just don't add up.

Posted by: Alex at June 16, 2009 10:40 PM (h8+gK)

You're making the mistake of assigning rationality and logic to islamic terrorists.

Even moderate muslims put 'getting even' for the (imaginary) wrongs the world has done to them ahead of common sense, rationality, or their own interests.

I live in Muslim world, trust me on that.

Posted by: mandible claw at June 17, 2009 05:10 AM (QKrrS)

88 My first thought on seeing the headline was "Why?"

Posted by: emdfl at June 17, 2009 06:19 AM (blNMI)

89 My money is on this being a false flag op run by Hamas against some wannabe AQ jackasses. String them along like you're going to help them, then drop a dime with the Israelis, and take the credit when the "perps" are foiled and Hamas "thwarts" the attack.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at June 17, 2009 07:09 AM (Slx41)

IF the MSM mentions this at all. Remember, 'news stories' that don't jive with their world-view simply aren't worth mentioning. Now that B.O. has charmed the Muslim snake, there's no sense talking about terrorist acts & such, unless it was Bush's fault.

Only the 'Hamas saved the ex-Prez' version holds any MSM water. See? They're on our side now!

Posted by: 5Cats at June 17, 2009 07:44 AM (Ivexw)

91 Hamas wants peace. Just as soon as they drive the last Jew into the Sea. See, they want peace!

Posted by: dfbaskwill at June 17, 2009 07:51 AM (7Gs5S)

Irony can be a delicious thing to have with your morning cup of joe. Somewhere in hell a little demonic being is laughing at all the accumulated karmic payback; Jimmah's tab is going to be a whopper.

Wonder what AQ & Friends is going to target next? Somehow I get the nagging suspicion that it will be something more worthwhile than Jimmah, and much more politically expedient for a certain person here in the States.

Posted by: unknown jane at June 17, 2009 08:17 AM (EpmMs)

93 last assassination attempt on Carter was thwarted with a paddle - "that rabbit's dynamite; run away, run away"

Posted by: William at June 17, 2009 09:02 AM (MZN6L)

94 "to a road Carter had used"

I went back an re-read that article. Hamas, acting on a tip from Israel, disrupted the operation. They then let the motorcade use the planned route with the explosives still in place!

I bet the USSS guys will be lining up for the next TDY to Hamastan.

Posted by: Jean at June 17, 2009 09:23 AM (L64A6)

Obama said he "wasn't concerned" about the Carter incident.

He was however "deeply concerned" about the giant rabbit following his wife Lt. Worf.

Posted by: Thomas Jackson at June 17, 2009 09:59 AM (B8gqF)

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